USB Sound Cards on Etch: Can't Get One To Work
I'm currently using an iMic USB sound card on a Soekris net5501 system that can handle USB 2.0, even if it is a slower CPU in comparison. (Unit specs here: http://soekris.com/net5501.htm) Before I was using this (the iMic), I was using a Startech USB sound card (here on Newegg: http://tinyurl.com/5v4n4k). I had errors with that card which led me to the iMic. This computer is a general file/printer/nfs/nis/dns server but nothing that's heavy duty except possibly the printer stuff, but I haven't been printing while I've been testing. I have a HD radio hooked up to one USB port and I can control it with an app I wrote for tuning, volume, and other settings. It has analog stereo output that, on an older and bigger system, I ran into the sound card through the Line In jack and used a regular output jack to go to my speakers. (I prefer to do this instead of splitting and weakening the analog audio from the radio output.) I also take the input stream and use it with Icecast2 to make it available on my home audio system. This always worked just fine with a Soundblaster in a PCI slot. With the Startech USB sound card the sound from the Line In went to the speakers with no problem, but whenever I tried to read that sound stream with darkice or anything else, I kept getting errors that I tracked down to an indication there wasn't enough bandwidth to send the audio signal through from the card to the USB port. (I used arecord and finally got error messages that helped me to track this down.) Since I could find nothing to show me that I could work around this in any way, I finally started searching for other USB sound cards and found a few references to people using an iMic with Debian Etch. It seemed like they just plugged it in and it worked. No such luck. Yet I dont' have access to the card. Before running alsaconf, when the card was hooked up and I wasn't getting error messages from amixer or alsamixer, here's the stuff from /proc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [system ]: USB-Audio - iMic USB audio system Griffin Technology, Inc iMic USB audio system at usb-:00:15.1-1.7, full spe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [ 0] : control 1:: sequencer 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 33:: timer It looked like alsaconf just matched it with the first driver it could, a Yamaha one, but when I deselected that as a choice and ran alsaconf again, when it was done, there was no card. Here's output from the first time I ran alsaconf: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ alsaconf Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-cs4236 snd-seq-dummy snd-seq- oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs4236-lib snd-mpu401-uart snd-cs4231-lib snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-timer (failed: modules still loaded: snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-mpu401-uart snd-cs4236- lib snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-cs4231-lib snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd- timer). Building card database... Probing legacy cards.. This may take a few minutes.. Probing: opl3sa2grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory : FOUND!! Running update-modules... Loading driver... FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device FATAL: Error running install command for snd_opl3sa2 Setting default volumes... amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory === Now ALSA is ready to use. For adjustment of volumes, use your favorite mixer. Have a lot of fun! - After it runs, there's no sound cards in /proc/asound/cards so alsamixer or anything else won't run. Since it looked like it was just grabbing the first driver to use, I eliminated the Yamaha drivers (Kept g
Re: Video editing
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 08:36:54PM -0600, Ron Johnson wrote: > >>> Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that? >> >> Avidemux. > > Also, gopchop, if it's MPEG. With Kino you can import the video and edit it. I have recently worked on a few mpg's and used kino. I found it a bit easier to work with than avidemux. The drawback is that kino converts the mpg to a .dv which is about 9 times bigger than the mpg. Regards Johann -- Johann Spies Telefoon: 021-808 4036 Informasietegnologie, Universiteit van Stellenbosch "For I am the LORD your God: ye shall therefore sanctify yourselves, and ye shall be holy; for I am holy:" Leviticus 11:44 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.6.27 in Debian?
On 2008-12-08 00:34 +0100, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 12/07/08 16:30, Sven Joachim wrote: >> >> If you don't want to build your own kernel, the Debian kernel team >> provides unofficial 2.6.27 images, see >> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel. You need to add the "trunk" ^^^ >> repository to your sources.list. > > I put this in my sources.list, and ran "# apt-get update", but don't > see the .27 kernel, either in image or source form. > > deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel sid main > > # apt-cache policy > Package files: > 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status > release a=now > 500 http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net sid/main Packages ^^^ You need to s/sid/trunk/ as I tried to explain. > release o=Debian-Kernel > archive,a=kernel-dists-sid,l=Debian-Kernel archive,c=main > origin kernel-archive.buildserver.net Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: remote system administration - grub via serial cable?
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 01:03:52AM +0200, Micha Feigin wrote: > I'm trying to do some kernel development remotely which requires reboots and > the occasional kernel panic on start which is very annoying since then I need > to > wait a few days until I get to the computer or someone knowledged enough is > around it to restart it into a working configuration. > > Is there some way to control grub, see the startup text and reboot remotely in > case of kernel panic such as through a serial cable (although I need to check > if that motherboard actually has a serial port as these are hard to come by > these days). Yes, grub can use a serial console. See the grub manual for how to set it up. There's also the savedefault feature of grub so that if a kernel choice doesn't start it will start a default kernel that does boot next time (not sure on this since I've never needed this aspect). There's also the panic= kernel command line so that after a panic, the machine will reboot after a delay rather than just sit there waiting for a power cycle. I don't know about grub, but the kernel can use usb dongles as serial ports/console. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote signing of large files
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 11:10:29AM +, Magnus Therning wrote: > Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:26:31PM +, Magnus Therning wrote: > > I wonder about the latest comment on this thread. Examine why you don't > > want the secret key on the build server and why you would feel more > > secure with the signing done on a separate server. > > Well, the main reason is that there are _a_lot_ of people with direct > access to the build server. The idea is to find a way to limit people's > _direct_ access to the server with the keys. I know there are problems, > but hopefully it doesn't require too much work to at least achieve some > traceability in such a setup. However, if people you don't totally trust have access to the build server, couldn't they fitz the packages before they're signed? Don't the keys have a passphrase option? Then, when you are ready to sign the packages, you'd have to enter the passphrase. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
USB Sound Cards on Etch: Can't Get One To Work
I'm currently using an iMic USB sound card on a Soekris net5501 system that can handle USB 2.0, even if it is a slower CPU in comparison. (Unit specs here: http://soekris.com/net5501.htm) Before I was using this (the iMic), I was using a Startech USB sound card (here on Newegg: http://tinyurl.com/5v4n4k). I had errors with that card which led me to the iMic. This computer is a general file/printer/nfs/nis/dns server but nothing that's heavy duty except possibly the printer stuff, but I haven't been printing while I've been testing. I have a HD radio hooked up to one USB port and I can control it with an app I wrote for tuning, volume, and other settings. It has analog stereo output that, on an older and bigger system, I ran into the sound card through the Line In jack and used a regular output jack to go to my speakers. (I prefer to do this instead of splitting and weakening the analog audio from the radio output.) I also take the input stream and use it with Icecast2 to make it available on my home audio system. This always worked just fine with a Soundblaster in a PCI slot. With the Startech USB sound card the sound from the Line In went to the speakers with no problem, but whenever I tried to read that sound stream with darkice or anything else, I kept getting errors that I tracked down to an indication there wasn't enough bandwidth to send the audio signal through from the card to the USB port. (I used arecord and finally got error messages that helped me to track this down.) Since I could find nothing to show me that I could work around this in any way, I finally started searching for other USB sound cards and found a few references to people using an iMic with Debian Etch. It seemed like they just plugged it in and it worked. No such luck. Yet I dont' have access to the card. Before running alsaconf, when the card was hooked up and I wasn't getting error messages from amixer or alsamixer, here's the stuff from /proc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cat /proc/asound/cards 0 [system ]: USB-Audio - iMic USB audio system Griffin Technology, Inc iMic USB audio system at usb-:00:15.1-1.7, full spe [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ cat /proc/asound/devices 0: [ 0] : control 1:: sequencer 16: [ 0- 0]: digital audio playback 24: [ 0- 0]: digital audio capture 33:: timer It looked like alsaconf just matched it with the first driver it could, a Yamaha one, but when I deselected that as a choice and ran alsaconf again, when it was done, there was no card. Here's output from the first time I ran alsaconf: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~]$ alsaconf Unloading ALSA sound driver modules: snd-cs4236 snd-seq-dummy snd-seq- oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-mixer-oss snd-cs4236-lib snd-mpu401-uart snd-cs4231-lib snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-timer (failed: modules still loaded: snd-opl3-lib snd-hwdep snd-mpu401-uart snd-cs4236- lib snd-seq-dummy snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-cs4231-lib snd-pcm snd-page-alloc snd- timer). Building card database... Probing legacy cards.. This may take a few minutes.. Probing: opl3sa2grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory grep: /sys/bus/pnp/devices/??:*/resources: No such file or directory : FOUND!! Running update-modules... Loading driver... FATAL: Error inserting snd_opl3sa2 (/lib/modules/2.6.18-6-486/kernel/sound/isa/snd-opl3sa2.ko): No such device FATAL: Error running install command for snd_opl3sa2 Setting default volumes... amixer: Mixer attach default error: No such file or directory === Now ALSA is ready to use. For adjustment of volumes, use your favorite mixer. Have a lot of fun! - After it runs, there's no sound cards in /proc/asound/cards so alsamixer or anything else won't run. Since it looked like it was just grabbing the first driver to use, I eliminated the Yamaha drivers (Kept g
Re: Partition damaged
Is the last partition, and i executed the command with the start and end parameters, and before, I provide the partition device to the parted command. What more information can i pass to it? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Issues with PCF and BDF Fonts after regular lenny updates
> > It should not be necessary to refer to ~/.fonts explicitly in > ~/.fonts.conf. This directory is included in the font path by default. > (You can check this with "xset q"; /home/$USER/.fonts should be listed > at the end of the font path.) > Ok, there's the first problem. When I do xset q /home/$USER/.fonts is not listed: Font Path: /usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,/usr/share/fonts/artwiz,/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType > All that you should have to do is copy the fonts to ~/.fonts and run > "mkfontdir ~/.fonts". I do not know where to find the Dina font, but I > tested this with the snap font that you mentioned in your earlier mail: > > $ fc-match snap > snap.pcf.gz: "snap" "Regular" > The above did not work initially, so I reinstalled using aptitude 'fontconfig' and 'fontconfig-config', now the above works. > If this does not work then you have to check if bitmap fonts are enabled > on your system. Run "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" and make sure > that you answer "Yes" to the third question. You need to restart X to > see the effect of changes in the fontconfig settings. > I tried this but no luck with the Dina font. $ fc-match Dina Vera.ttf: "Bitstream Vera Sans" "Roman" $ ls -al ~/.fonts -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 38603 Jul 13 19:28 Dina_i400-10.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 36296 Jul 13 19:28 Dina_i400-8.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 37832 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_i400-9.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 38599 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_i700-10.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 36292 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_i700-8.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 37828 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_i700-9.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 38603 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_r400-10.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 36296 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_r400-8.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 37832 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_r400-9.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 38599 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_r700-10.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 36292 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_r700-8.bdf -rw-r--r-- 1 amitu amitu 37828 Jul 13 19:29 Dina_r700-9.bdf Again, I guess I'm not sure why xset q doesn't list my fonts dir. > Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer > Florian | > > Thank you for helping. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video editing
On 12/07/08 17:42, JoeHill wrote: Rodolfo Medina wrote: I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off and select pieces of a video file. You don't mention what format the video is in. Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that? Avidemux. Also, gopchop, if it's MPEG. -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA How does being physically handicapped make me Differently-Abled? What different abilities do I have? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: squid-cache
Tom Allison wrote: why is there two different versions (v2.x vs v3.x) of squid supported? Is there that much incompatibility between the two? pros/cons with one over the other? http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg52046.html Sam -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cpqfc driver problem
Hello all I an attempting to get these old compaq FC arrays working. I have managed to find the cpqfc driver on sourceforge but it won't compile. server1:/usr/src/cpqfc# make all makefile:152: /Rules.make: No such file or directory make: *** No rule to make target `/Rules.make'. Stop. server1:/usr/src/cpqfc# It seems the rules file is missing. I was wondering if anyone knows how I can fix this? Regards Fred -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Video editing
Rodolfo Medina wrote: > I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off > and select pieces of a video file. > > Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that? Avidemux. -- J -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Video editing
Hi to all Debian users. I want to divide a video file into two pieces, or, more in general, cut off and select pieces of a video file. Please someone suggest a proper video editing program that does that? Thanks for any help Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.6.27 in Debian?
On 12/07/08 16:30, Sven Joachim wrote: [snip] If you don't want to build your own kernel, the Debian kernel team provides unofficial 2.6.27 images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel. You need to add the "trunk" repository to your sources.list. I put this in my sources.list, and ran "# apt-get update", but don't see the .27 kernel, either in image or source form. deb http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net/debian-kernel sid main # apt-cache policy Package files: 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status release a=now 500 http://kernel-archive.buildserver.net sid/main Packages release o=Debian-Kernel archive,a=kernel-dists-sid,l=Debian-Kernel archive,c=main origin kernel-archive.buildserver.net [snip] -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA How does being physically handicapped make me Differently-Abled? What different abilities do I have? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)
On Sunday 07 December 2008, lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about 'Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)': >On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:42:42AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> On Saturday 2008 December 06 02:03, lee wrote: >> > On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:45:28AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: >> > > I disagree with this. It should be possible to establish "hooks" >> > > so that the administrator should not ever have to edit an installed >> > > file, but instead place additional or overriding instructions in a >> > > separate file which the packages manager would not read or modify. >> > >> > How exactly would that work? >> >> There are lots of ways to do this, but it basically boils down to >> having a distribution/upstream provided configuration and locally >> provided configuration. This is actually ALWAYS the case, as the >> source code has some default behavior > >Yes, I guess you have to have something in the source to compile it. I >don't really consider that as "configuration", though. But it is. It's the underlying "defaults" that 1) your configuration alters and 2) could change the same way a distribution-provided configuration might. >> When the program only reads from a single file, it's difficult to >> separate distribution settings from locally administered settings, >> even though those are two different things. > >It's the configuration of a program, not two different things. It is. They are maintained by two separate entities. Just like the default behavior is maintained by the original author and the configuration is maintained by others. >When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's >much more difficult for the administrator to configure it. I completely disagree here. Your specific examples, apache2 and exim4 simply convince me further that you are wrong. I maintain a exim4 installation and multiple apache2 installations and I greatly prefer separated files to a single file. It's easier to work with that way, not harder. >As you want or need to >distinguish the administrators configuration from the package >managers, that could (better) be done by having different sections in >the configuration file or by some other way to have and keep the >package managers configuration within the file together with what the >administrator has set up. No, separate files is better, since files are already a natural unit. 'rm my.conf' (and leaving debian.conf) is easier than editing a single file to remove local changes. >> Thus, we have conffiles -- a half-way solution between having >> separate files for distribution and locally-administered settings. >> When/where the defaults work administrators have no worries, the >> package maintainer updates the conffiles as needed. When the >> defaults don't work, you get the dpkg prompt, which is usually >> enough; administrators that have made changes keep their old file, >> until they see an incompatable change (e.g. in the conffile format) >> and then have to rebuild their configuration. At this point they'd >> generally have to rebuild their configuration anyway. > >Well, that already has been achieved to a great deal, hasn't it? Well, it's achieved less than the alternative would, but with arguably less work. >Just >packages like exim4 or apache2 that use an approach which makes it >very difficult to impossible for the administrator to configure them >break it. I find the debian way of configuration apache2 superior to other distributions I've used. I've never installed exim4 on a different distributions, but I do think it would be troublesome making changes to a single, large file then the logically separated small files in well-named directories used by Debian. >> Anyway, the point is that most users of F(L)OSS software don't get >> their software directly from the original authors, so it makes sense to >> have at least 3 configuration files/directories (distribution, in >> /usr/share mostly; system, in /etc mostly; and user, in ~ mostly) for >> any user application, and 2 (the first 2) for non-user applications. > >Hm, when I switched from Suse to Debian, one of the advantages of >Debian was that they stayed closer to what the original authors >did. I guess. There are certainly changes in Ubuntu/openSuse that I don't see in Debian packages, but Debian (particularly the security team) is very adamant that Debian must be able to make changes without prior approval from the original authors to better serve the needs of it's users. (E.g. firefox vs. iceweasel) Also, some upstream programs may not need their source changed, but still need to be "configured" to work immediately after the package as been installed on a Debian system. This might mean looking somewhere other than upstream expected for libraries, reading configurations from /etc//.conf instead of /etc/.conf, or simply having some defaults provided so
remote system administration - grub via serial cable?
I'm trying to do some kernel development remotely which requires reboots and the occasional kernel panic on start which is very annoying since then I need to wait a few days until I get to the computer or someone knowledged enough is around it to restart it into a working configuration. Is there some way to control grub, see the startup text and reboot remotely in case of kernel panic such as through a serial cable (although I need to check if that motherboard actually has a serial port as these are hard to come by these days). Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.6.27 in Debian?
On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 10:35:27 +1300, Simon Guest wrote: > Hi all, > > I really expected 2.6.27 to be in Sid by now, but it's not, and I > can't find any mention of it anywhere, on the mailing lists or > elsewhere. The 2.6.27 source package is available in the experimental repository now. Compiled images are on kernel-archive.buildserver.net, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel . > Does anyone know when this is likely to happen? Is something holding > it up? I think 2.6.27 will enter Sid only after Lenny is released. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)
From: lee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's > much more difficult for the administrator to configure it. I'd say it's a matter of preference. I like exim's split configuration, it makes upgrades easier as I only have to deal with the parts that I've changed. And perhaps not even that, if I can make a change by adding a new snippet file instead of changing an existing one. For those who prefer a single file, debconf allows that, satisfying all kinds of people. You can even dump debconf altogether and do all the configuration yourself. > Well, that already has been achieved to a great deal, hasn't it? Just > packages like exim4 or apache2 that use an approach which makes it > very difficult to impossible for the administrator to configure them > break it. That's your opinion. Do not take it as absolute. I don't know about apache, but as I said, with exim it's quite easy to use a single file, if you prefer it that way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Kernel 2.6.27 in Debian?
On 2008-12-07 22:35 +0100, Simon Guest wrote: > I really expected 2.6.27 to be in Sid by now, but it's not, and I > can't find any mention of it anywhere, on the mailing lists or > elsewhere. > > Does anyone know when this is likely to happen? Is something holding > it up? Yes, the Lenny release. After Lenny is released¹, a newer kernel will hit unstable, though it will almost certainly not be 2.6.27. > From kernel.org: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: > 2.6.27.8 > > Anyone like me with an Intel Wifi 5100 wireless chipset really needs 2.6.27. If you don't want to build your own kernel, the Debian kernel team provides unofficial 2.6.27 images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianKernel. You need to add the "trunk" repository to your sources.list. Sven ¹ Whenever that may be. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Kernel 2.6.27 in Debian?
Hi all, I really expected 2.6.27 to be in Sid by now, but it's not, and I can't find any mention of it anywhere, on the mailing lists or elsewhere. Does anyone know when this is likely to happen? Is something holding it up? From kernel.org: The latest stable version of the Linux kernel is: 2.6.27.8 Anyone like me with an Intel Wifi 5100 wireless chipset really needs 2.6.27. cheers, Simon -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Better support for merging local and upstream (was: Erase cache, clean registry in Linux)
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 03:42:42AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 2008 December 06 02:03, lee wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 12:45:28AM -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > > I disagree with this. It should be possible to establish "hooks" so that > > > the administrator should not ever have to edit an installed file, but > > > instead place additional or overriding instructions in a separate file > > > which the packages manager would not read or modify. > > > > How exactly would that work? > > There are lots of ways to do this, but it basically boils down to > having a distribution/upstream provided configuration and locally > provided configuration. This is actually ALWAYS the case, as the > source code has some default behavior Yes, I guess you have to have something in the source to compile it. I don't really consider that as "configuration", though. > When the program only reads from a single file, it's difficult to > separate distribution settings from locally administered settings, > even though those are two different things. It's the configuration of a program, not two different things. When a program uses a number of different configuration files, it's much more difficult for the administrator to configure it. I prefer to know the configuration when I'm configuring something, and that includes the settings made by the package manager. Having it all in one configuration file makes it much easier, as all the settings are in one place, and there is no guessing about what is actually configured and no trying to find out how the configuration works. It's plain and simple. Fortunately, the (Debian) idea is already to have the configuration in one place (/etc), but spreading it across multiple files (or directories) is somewhat contradictory. As you want or need to distinguish the administrators configuration from the package managers, that could (better) be done by having different sections in the configuration file or by some other way to have and keep the package managers configuration within the file together with what the administrator has set up. > Thus, we have conffiles -- a half-way solution between having > separate files for distribution and locally-administered settings. > When/where the defaults work administrators have no worries, the > package maintainer updates the conffiles as needed. When the > defaults don't work, you get the dpkg prompt, which is usually > enough; administrators that have made changes keep their old file, > until they see an incompatable change (e.g. in the conffile format) > and then have to rebuild their configuration. At this point they'd > generally have to rebuild their configuration anyway. Well, that already has been achieved to a great deal, hasn't it? Just packages like exim4 or apache2 that use an approach which makes it very difficult to impossible for the administrator to configure them break it. > Anyway, the point is that most users of F(L)OSS software don't get their > software directly from the original authors, so it makes sense to have at > least 3 configuration files/directories (distribution, in /usr/share mostly; > system, in /etc mostly; and user, in ~ mostly) for any user application, and > 2 (the first 2) for non-user applications. [It would also be nice to > have "site" configuration in /usr/local/share or somesuch.] Unfortunately, > this doesn't happen often and we get half-way solutions like conffiles (or > Gentoo's equivalent). Hm, when I switched from Suse to Debian, one of the advantages of Debian was that they stayed closer to what the original authors did. That made it a lot easier to, for example, get a newer version of a software and use that instead of what came in the distribution --- not only with configuring it, but also with compiling it and keeping that version installed. Too much automatic doing is a bad thing; it doesn't work for other OSs, and it doesn't work for Debian (see exim4 and apache2). -- "Don't let them, daddy. Don't let the stars run down." http://adin.dyndns.org/adin/TheLastQ.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Umlaute
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 09:18:08PM +0100, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-12-07 20:38 +0100, lee wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > how can I get xterm and xemacs to display German Umlaute correctly? > > I've configured locales so that they are available, but changing LANG > > in xterm or trying to change the encoding xemacs uses for a buffer > > don't get the Umlaute displayed. I've never had this problem before, > > it just worked fine after configuring the right locales. The only > > difference is that I don't have a German keyboard now and that I'm > > using amd64 instead of i386. > > Please show the output of "locale". [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ locale LANG=en_US LC_CTYPE="en_US" LC_NUMERIC="en_US" LC_TIME="en_US" LC_COLLATE="en_US" LC_MONETARY="en_US" LC_MESSAGES="en_US" LC_PAPER="en_US" LC_NAME="en_US" LC_ADDRESS="en_US" LC_TELEPHONE="en_US" LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US" LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US" LC_ALL= I tried it with de_DE.ISO-8859-1, and it didn't work, either. But when I gave up trying to get it to work and started to answer the mail containing Umlaute, it suddenly worked. I don't know why, but even xterm shows them now. -- "Don't let them, daddy. Don't let the stars run down." http://adin.dyndns.org/adin/TheLastQ.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] bashism
On Sunday 2008 December 07 03:36, Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2008-12-07 02:04 +0100, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > > On Saturday 2008 December 06 17:47, Dotan Cohen wrote: > >> 2008/12/7 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > >> > For maximum compatibility, that needs to be: > >> > VAR=; export VAR > >> > >> Compatibility with what? > > > > UNIX. The Single Unix Specification is maintained by the Open Group who > > certify UNIX products. > > You should upgrade your specification. Susv3 explicitly mentions the > "export name=word" syntax as supported. You are correct. Looks like the "export name=word" form has actually be supported since "Issue 6". Older systems might not like it, but I suppose that's a problem with them not being up to date. -- Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. ,= ,-_-. =. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ((_/)o o(\_)) ICQ: 514984 YM/AIM: DaTwinkDaddy `-'(. .)`-' http://iguanasuicide.org/ \_/ pgpj8C4hkcXRy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: Umlaute
On 2008-12-07 20:38 +0100, lee wrote: > Hi, > > how can I get xterm and xemacs to display German Umlaute correctly? > I've configured locales so that they are available, but changing LANG > in xterm or trying to change the encoding xemacs uses for a buffer > don't get the Umlaute displayed. I've never had this problem before, > it just worked fine after configuring the right locales. The only > difference is that I don't have a German keyboard now and that I'm > using amd64 instead of i386. Please show the output of "locale". Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hosts List (ARP?)
Phillipus Gunawan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > but then, even from myxp box, when I try to ping with command: > C:\>ping debian > Ping request could not find host debian On this Windows box, where have you defined the host "debian"? Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?
> > It hangs after ls? Sounds like your data traffic gets jammed > > somehow. > > I know I'm jumping in halfway thru the conversation so this might have already been mentioned. But you may want to check if the firewall is blocking ICMP packets preventing PMTU being figured out correctly. The scenerio you're describing sounds too much like the case of 'Fragmentation needed but DF flag is set'. Letting the right ICMP packets (4/3, I believe) thru in your firewall usually solves these problems. anoop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Umlaute
Hi, how can I get xterm and xemacs to display German Umlaute correctly? I've configured locales so that they are available, but changing LANG in xterm or trying to change the encoding xemacs uses for a buffer don't get the Umlaute displayed. I've never had this problem before, it just worked fine after configuring the right locales. The only difference is that I don't have a German keyboard now and that I'm using amd64 instead of i386. Web browsers display Umlaute just fine. -- "Don't let them, daddy. Don't let the stars run down." http://adin.dyndns.org/adin/TheLastQ.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lost my desktop[SOLVED]
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Neidorff wrote: > On Sunday 07 December 2008 08:35 am, Frank McCormick wrote: >> Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: >>> Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 17:22, Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Frank McCormick wrote: >>> Well not all of it -- my regular icons have been replaced by generic >>> looking white onesand when I click on 'em (I WAS configured to >>> single-click) the desktop files open in a text editor. >>> >>> Does it happen to all users on your system? If not, move .gnome, .gconf >>> etc, out of the way and see if it helps >>Yes all users are affectedI've already tried moving several >> directories and seemingly-related files out of the way but no luck. This >> is really annoying. > > OK. How about restarting X? (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) I don't use Gnome, but I > have had a similar problem with KDE once (and that is once in a long, long > time), and restarting X fixed it. Also, check swap space. > > Nope...X has been restarted dozens of times. Fixed it this morning after I realized that Nautilus obviously didn't know what to do with desktop files...that's why it was opening them in a text editor. Reinstalling mime-support and shared-mime-info brought the desktop back. Best I can figure is that removing an icon theme and a gtk2 engine somehow screwed mime support on this machine. Thanks for everyones suggestions though. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk8IH8ACgkQnQV1aTcQlJuATQCfT7AFxy12rqiRXt59SX1LIU/p vX0AoIUXYtLYin1Wn6VtpxIFFN7aXRi0 =6e5z -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA sound recording frustration SOLVED (to a point)
On Sunday 07 December 2008 17:28, Mark Neidorff wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 12:39 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the > > > kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in synaptic, so now I'm in > > > the position of rebooting between configurations that use sound and one > > > where I can use VirtualBox. > > > > Huh? What have you been looking for? The source packages are named like > > linux-source-2.6.18 > > > > Regards, > > Andrei > > (quick review...no sound with linux 2.6.18 kernel...downloaded musix kernel > which has ALSA 1.0.16 and sound works...but I use VirtualBox and it needs > to compile kernel modules to work...but there is no source for the musix > kernel. > > I see that there is an upgrade to the debian kernel 2.6.24. How do I find > out what version of ALSA that kernel has? > > Assuming that it is the wrong version of ALSA, where can I find detailed > instructions for downloading and compiling the newer ALSA > kernel(?)/modules(?) so that I can use sound and VirtualBox at the same > time? > > Thanks, > > Mark (the OP) Hi Mark. I thought I'd already replied to your ? Anyway, I've now managed to update the alsa driver on the 2.6.18 kernel, and have gotten sounds with that. Caveat. I know absolutely nothing about Virtualbox. The linux-headers are available for the Musix 2.6.26 kernel. And if you still have the Musix repo uncommented in /etc/apt/sources.list, you should see them there. Back to the Etch 2.6.18-6-686 kernel. You do need a few packages installed to upgrade the alsa driver, and perhaps all the ones listed below are not needed, but most are small. binutils build-essential dpkg-dev g++-4.0 (version may be different on Etch) gcc-4.0 (same as above) kernel-package libc6-dev libstdc++6-4.0-dev(version may differ on Etch) linux-kernel-headers make You also need the linux-headers for your running kernel. In my case (with Etch), synaptic shows the following as below. linux-headers-2.6.18-6 linux-headers-2.6.18-6-686 I also see that linux-kbuild-2.6.18 is installed, but that may have been automatically installed as a dep to other packages mentioned above. Just to take a break. The alsa driver that comes with the 2.6.24 etchnhalf kernel is 1.0.15. I get no sounds with that, when using the etchnhalf kernel, but on another install on the same machine, specifically Kubuntu Dapper, I upgraded the alsa driver from 1.0.10 to 1.0.15, and the sounds work. I am still having problems updating the alsa driver with the etchnhalf kernel (2.6.24), with continual complaints from make. Incidentally, I also get the same "make" complaints, when trying to upgrade the alsa driver on a Kubuntu Hardy (8.04) install against a 2.6.24 kernel. Puzzling. I'm not saying you will have problems with sounds using the etchnhalf 2.6.24 kernel. It could be hardware specific in my case. Having now finished our break, and installed all the packages above, let's resume the upgrade of the alsa driver. First create a new folder in your /home/user directory. I name mine Alsa-drivers, as I have a bunch of different versions in it. Now download the latest version of the alsa driver (1.0.18a) using the link below. http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Main_Page Save the tarball to your newly created Alsa-drivers directory. Next, open a terminal, or Konsole, if using KDE. Now type the commands below as user. cd Alsa-drivers tar xjvf alsa-driver-1.0.18a.tar.bz2 cd alsa-driver-1.0.18a ./configure (which if you have installed the necessary packages, will run to completion) make(having typed make, this also (hopefully) will run to completion, with no errors). If make runs to completion with no errors, su to root, and type as below. make install Reboot, and run cat /proc/asound/version , which should now show the alsa driver version as 1.0.18a. More importantly, you may have had some login sounds, and if not, open alsamixer on the CLI (terminal/Konsole), and check for muted controls (M key to mute/unmute), or sliders like Master, PCM, Front, CD, that need pushing up. To see if your card has been detected on bootup, type: cat /proc/asound/cards Sorry if the stuff above is a bit basic, but it may be usefull for newer folks visiting the archives. Best wishes on getting your sound working. Nigel. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA sound recording frustration SOLVED (to a point)
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 11:28:33 -0500, Mark Neidorff wrote: > On Monday 01 December 2008 12:39 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote: > > On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the > > > kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in synaptic, so now I'm in > > > the position of rebooting between configurations that use sound and one > > > where I can use VirtualBox. > > > > Huh? What have you been looking for? The source packages are named like > > linux-source-2.6.18 > > > > Regards, > > Andrei > > (quick review...no sound with linux 2.6.18 kernel...downloaded musix kernel > which has ALSA 1.0.16 and sound works...but I use VirtualBox and it needs to > compile kernel modules to work...but there is no source for the musix kernel. > Whoever distributes the musix kernel is required to provide the sources, otherwise they would be in violation of the GPL. Most probably they will also provide headers for their compiled kernels, but the Debian user list is not a good place to find someone who knows where the musix sources and headers can be found. Also, I would expect that building the vboxdrv module with module-assistant works better with a Debian kernel. > I see that there is an upgrade to the debian kernel 2.6.24. How do I find > out > what version of ALSA that kernel has? This information might be given in the release notes of Etch+1/2 or in the upstream information for kernel 2.6.24. If you cannot find anything there then you can download the common linux-headers package for 2.6.24 and extract include/sound/version.h: $ aptitude download '~n^linux-headers-2.6.24.*-common$' $ ar p linux-headers-2.6.24-*-common* data.tar.gz | tar -zxO --wildcards "*include/sound/version.h" /* include/version.h. Generated by alsa/ksync script. */ #define CONFIG_SND_VERSION "1.0.15" #define CONFIG_SND_DATE " (Tue Nov 20 19:16:42 2007 UTC)" Unfortunately, Etch+1/2 only has ALSA 1.0.15. > Assuming that it is the wrong version of ALSA, where can I find detailed > instructions for downloading and compiling the newer ALSA > kernel(?)/modules(?) so that I can use sound and VirtualBox at the same time? Linux images for kernel 2.6.26 (which has ALSA 1.0.16) are available in etch-backports. The virtualbox-ose-* packages are also included in the backports, so it should be possible to build the vboxdrv module for the 2.6.26-bpo kernel using module-assistant. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: changing execution permissions with thunar?
On Sun, 7 Dec 2008 15:34:12 +0200 Micha Feigin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Micha > Is it possible to change the execution permissions of a file in > thunar? It seems impossible. In Debian Lenny/Thunar 0.9.0 there are no GUI options for changing execute perms. I didn't found properties for changing that. IMHO that's a security feature, to prevent misconfiguration of perms. > All I could find was read/write permissions and even that I > can't seem to do in batch mode, only one file at a time. Why you don't wanna use "chmod" (in terminal)? With "chmod" and other GNU tools is batch mode available :-) LinuxQuestion documents[0] usage of "chmod" > Thanks kind regards Sven [0] http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Chmod -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition damaged
2008/12/7 Patricio Inzaghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> It looks like your partition table is damaged... have you tried >> >> http://os.cqu.edu.au/cgi-bin/info/info2html.cgi?(parted)rescue >> >> ? > > Thanks for the response. > > I installed parted, and i tried "parted /dev/sda3" , and then "rescue > START END", but nothing happened. No response of the command. The rescue command needs a bit of a hint as to where the partition could be. And it needs a pretty good hint. Is the partition at the beginning of your drive and goes all the way to the end? You said you resized it, so try providing the resized partition as the hint. - Jordi G. H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: ALSA sound recording frustration SOLVED (to a point)
* Mark Neidorff [081207 17:30 +0100] [...] > Assuming that it is the wrong version of ALSA, where can I find > detailed instructions for downloading and compiling the newer ALSA > kernel(?)/modules(?) so that I can use sound and VirtualBox at the > same time? apt-get install alsa-source read /usr/share/doc/alsa-source/README.Debian Elimar -- Planung: Ersatz des Zufalls durch den Irrtum. -unknown- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: iptables, ftp and dnat?
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Tommy Bongaerts wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 05, 2008 at 03:30:19PM -0700, Robert L. Harris wrote:
>
>> I've read both of those and understand how the ftp works. I've
>> spent the last 2 days googling. Unfortunately it's all working
>> now except how to get the iptables data connection in passive
>> mode working. I can log in, etc just fine but when I do a "ls"
>> after issuing the "passive" command it times out.
>>
>> The second example looks good but doesn't handle the DNAT (the
>> ftp server is running on another machine behind my firewall.
>
> It hangs after ls? Sounds like your data traffic gets jammed
> somehow.
>
> Some things to consider: - did you open up the data port (this is
> control port minus 1)? - did you open some ports for the passive
> connection? - did you tell this to your server? - does the NAT
> machine translate the ftp packets properly?
>
> If you're using proftpd you may try set following directives in the
> config:
>
> PassivePorts MasqueradeAddressNAT/firewall machine>
>
> I had the exact same problem, and this fixed it for me.
>
I'm not doing any outbound blocking and i'm trying to figure out the
syntax for the data port now.
What I have is a real mess and not working. In Proftpd I have tried
the PassivePorts but it seems to
be ignored but the Masq directive is being picked up. I have this in
my config:
# These ports should be safe...
PassivePorts 6 65535
when I connect I'm getting this on the server side:
{0}:/home/robert>lsof -i -n | grep -i ftp
proftpd 568 nobody0u IPv4 447049808 TCP *:ftp (LISTEN)
proftpd 578 robert0u IPv4 447049865 TCP
10.1.1.32:ftp->98.244.36.35:41893 (ESTABLISHED)
proftpd 578 robert1u IPv4 447049865 TCP
10.1.1.32:ftp->98.244.36.35:41893 (ESTABLISHED)
Can you paste me your data port lines? If I can get either dynamic
ports working or limited ports, I'll work with
it.
Robert
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Re: ALSA sound recording frustration SOLVED (to a point)
On Monday 01 December 2008 12:39 pm, Andrei Popescu wrote: > On Mon,01.Dec.08, 05:19:05, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > Now I need to compile some kernel modules for VirtualBox so I need the > > kernel source. Of course, it is not listed in synaptic, so now I'm in > > the position of rebooting between configurations that use sound and one > > where I can use VirtualBox. > > Huh? What have you been looking for? The source packages are named like > linux-source-2.6.18 > > Regards, > Andrei (quick review...no sound with linux 2.6.18 kernel...downloaded musix kernel which has ALSA 1.0.16 and sound works...but I use VirtualBox and it needs to compile kernel modules to work...but there is no source for the musix kernel. I see that there is an upgrade to the debian kernel 2.6.24. How do I find out what version of ALSA that kernel has? Assuming that it is the wrong version of ALSA, where can I find detailed instructions for downloading and compiling the newer ALSA kernel(?)/modules(?) so that I can use sound and VirtualBox at the same time? Thanks, Mark (the OP) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition damaged
> It looks like your partition table is damaged... have you tried > > http://os.cqu.edu.au/cgi-bin/info/info2html.cgi?(parted)rescue > > ? Thanks for the response. I installed parted, and i tried "parted /dev/sda3" , and then "rescue START END", but nothing happened. No response of the command. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: unbootable system after fresh 4.0r5 installation
Hello, Sven Joachim --> debian-user (2008-12-05 17:54:56 +0100): > On 2008-12-05 17:27 +0100, Jukka Salmi wrote: > > > I just installed Debian 4.0r5 on a i386 systems (Dell PowerEdge 2950). > > While the installer seemed to have succeeded without problems, the > > freshly installed system didn't boot because its root file systems could > > not be found: > > > > Begin: Waiting for root file system... ... > > [...] > > sd 3:0:0:0: Attached scsi removable disk sdb > > > > At this point the system hanged for some minutes, until > > > > ALERT! /dev/sdb3 does not exist. Dropping to a shell! > > > > was output and the BusyBox shell was executed. > > > > But indeed there is no /dev/sdb; there's only one (logical) disk > > present, /dev/sda. > > How many physical discs does the system have (removable and > non-removable)? The system has three SCSI disks, but since they are connected to a RAID controller to form a RAID 5 the OS should see just a single disk. BTW, I see the same problem on another i386 system (also a PowerEdge 2950). It has six SCSI disks, four of which form a RAID 1+0, and two a RAID 1. The installer sees /dev/sd[abc], but after the system is installed the disk which was sdc became sdb, and the original sdb became sda. I should probably find out what sda is... I can try this tomorrow. > And do you know the kernel versions in the installer and > the installed system? I don't remember which version they were exactly (something like 2.6.18?), but calling uname(1) from an installer shell and from the installed system's shell both showed the same release version. Regards, Jukka -- bashian roulette: $ ((RANDOM%6)) || rm -rf ~ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Partition damaged
2008/12/4 Patricio Inzaghi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Is there any possibility of restore the partition? or i have to focus > in data recovering? It looks like your partition table is damaged... have you tried http://os.cqu.edu.au/cgi-bin/info/info2html.cgi?(parted)rescue ? HTH, - Jordi G.H. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: insserv & encrypted /home
Michael Wagner:
>
> -snip--
> # Services which need to be interactive
>boot.crypto
>
> Names starting with a `+' sign are marked as optional. If the service
> with the name after the plus sign is available it will be used, if not
> available it is ignored silently. Words beginning with < and ending
> with > are keywords. Currently is the only know keyword
> for marking a service as an interactive one, e.g. a service which
> requires a passphrase or password input during boot or runlevel change.
> -snap--
Thanks for the hint, I already found that configuration snippet. But I
am not sure on how to use that information. :)
I added 'cryptdisks' to the line ('cryptdisks' is not only
the name of the init script, but also the name of the system facility it
provides). Unfortunately, the behaviour doesn't change. The same goes
for cryptdisks-early, which appears to be responsible for mounting my
/home.
J.
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Hi there, I got a debian box with a shorewall setup Every client will have gateway pointing to debian and it works ok currently on /etc/hosts file, i got this line: 192.168.1.1debian 192.168.1.2myxp . but then, even from myxp box, when I try to ping with command: C:\>ping debian Ping request could not find host debian. Please check the name and try again. Why is that? Ive got dnsmasq installed and using shorewall with ppp0 connected to a bridged modem here are some snip of conf files that might worth to mention: /etc/nsswitch.conf hosts: files dns networks: files protocols: db files services: db files ethers: db files rpc:db files netgroup: nis /etc/resolv.conf nameserver 203.12.160.35 nameserver 203.12.160.36 I dont see (cant find) any conf value inside /etc/dnsmasq.conf that being enabled From what my understanding, nsswitch.conf with line nosts: files dns, means that it will try to read /etc/hosts first before pass it to dns which is resolv.conf How will I get myxp' box read hosts listed on /etc/hosts? Apart from installing BIND, is there any package able to auto-add /etc/hosts if there is a new box being pluged into the network? Please correct my understanding if I am wrong about any words I mentioned here Cheers Start your day with Yahoo!7 and win a Sony Bravia TV. Enter now http://au.docs.yahoo.com/homepageset/?p1=other&p2=au&p3=tagline -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lost my desktop
On Sunday 07 December 2008 08:35 am, Frank McCormick wrote: > Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > > Frank McCormick wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > >> Hash: SHA1 > >> > >> Kelly Clowers wrote: > >>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 17:22, Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >>> > >>> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frank McCormick wrote: > > Well not all of it -- my regular icons have been replaced by generic > > looking white onesand when I click on 'em (I WAS configured to > > single-click) the desktop files open in a text editor. > > > > Does it happen to all users on your system? If not, move .gnome, .gconf > > etc, out of the way and see if it helps > >Yes all users are affectedI've already tried moving several > directories and seemingly-related files out of the way but no luck. This > is really annoying. OK. How about restarting X? (Ctrl-Alt-Backspace) I don't use Gnome, but I have had a similar problem with KDE once (and that is once in a long, long time), and restarting X fixed it. Also, check swap space. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Issues with PCF and BDF Fonts after regular lenny updates
On Sat, Dec 06, 2008 at 19:24:52 -0800, Amit Uttamchandani wrote: > On Sat, 6 Dec 2008 16:50:02 +0900 Osamu Aoki wrote: > > > Now default font set are picked via fontconfig thing. > > > > http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch08.en.html#fontsinthexwindow > > > > Thanks for the reply. > > Your document definitely helped a lot in understanding fonts in debain. > So now I tried configuring my fonts using fontconfig, which I assume > means configuration through fonts.conf. So I have the following > ~/.fonts.conf: > > > > > > /home/amitu/.fonts > > > But urxvt still can't seem to use the Dina font which is located in > ~/.fonts. > > Any ideas? It should not be necessary to refer to ~/.fonts explicitly in ~/.fonts.conf. This directory is included in the font path by default. (You can check this with "xset q"; /home/$USER/.fonts should be listed at the end of the font path.) All that you should have to do is copy the fonts to ~/.fonts and run "mkfontdir ~/.fonts". I do not know where to find the Dina font, but I tested this with the snap font that you mentioned in your earlier mail: $ fc-match snap snap.pcf.gz: "snap" "Regular" If this does not work then you have to check if bitmap fonts are enabled on your system. Run "dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig-config" and make sure that you answer "Yes" to the third question. You need to restart X to see the effect of changes in the fontconfig settings. If you do not want to enable all bitmap fonts then you can selectively enable certain families in your ~/fonts.conf, for example: snap The effect of this configuration is instantaneous on my system (no need to restart X) and the snap fonts is found by fc-match even if bitmap fonts are disabled globally. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lost my desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Raj Kiran Grandhi wrote: > Frank McCormick wrote: >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Kelly Clowers wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 17:22, Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank McCormick wrote: > Well not all of it -- my regular icons have been replaced by generic > looking white onesand when I click on 'em (I WAS configured to > single-click) the desktop files open in a text editor. > > I did remove an icon theme ( Nimbus I believe it was called earlier > today) and installed something called Moonlight (supposed to be a > Linux/Unix equiv to Silverlight) but as far as I know > didn't do or change anything else. > > Alt-F2 still works, and the panel looks OK so it seems its just the > desktop affected. It seems I can't create any new icons on the desktop either... >>> Have you logged out and back in? >> >> Dozens of times now :) Changed themes, customized themes by choosing new >> icon packages...renamed the .gnome and .gnome2 directories...renamed the >> .nautilus directory. >> The strange thing is ALL the icons on the desktop now have .desktop >> extensions. None had before. >> > > Does it happen to all users on your system? If not, move .gnome, .gconf > etc, out of the way and see if it helps > Yes all users are affectedI've already tried moving several directories and seemingly-related files out of the way but no luck. This is really annoying. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk70TAACgkQnQV1aTcQlJvs6ACeNlvPx2Hr3WxM2Rl3wTBZwlZX o+QAn2w8KKlkGmfFl9vjlZdu9p0GjU/C =C+Sq -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lost my desktop
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 19:17, Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Kelly Clowers wrote: >>> On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 17:22, Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: > Well not all of it -- my regular icons have been replaced by generic > looking white onesand when I click on 'em (I WAS configured to > single-click) the desktop files open in a text editor. > > I did remove an icon theme ( Nimbus I believe it was called earlier > today) and installed something called Moonlight (supposed to be a > Linux/Unix equiv to Silverlight) but as far as I know > didn't do or change anything else. > > Alt-F2 still works, and the panel looks OK so it seems its just the > desktop affected. It seems I can't create any new icons on the desktop either... >>> Have you logged out and back in? >> Dozens of times now :) Changed themes, customized themes by choosing new >> icon packages...renamed the .gnome and .gnome2 directories...renamed the >> .nautilus directory. >> >> >> The strange thing is ALL the icons on the desktop now have .desktop >> extensions. None had before. > > I have no ideas, except reinstall nautilus and maybe some related > packages. I have reinstalled Nautilus ,and a few related packages...I even reinstalled the icon theme I had removed It seems to be a global problemit affects all users. >maybe someone else will have a better > idea. > Certainly hope so. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkk70MAACgkQnQV1aTcQlJt6aQCdHwJh/psQSavj3JEdq3pzlKSF HcYAnjuSv9vTTi91MiC210q1hoBIEUFI =Um7n -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
changing execution permissions with thunar?
Is it possible to change the execution permissions of a file in thunar? All I could find was read/write permissions and even that I can't seem to do in batch mode, only one file at a time. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Remote signing of large files
Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Thu, Dec 04, 2008 at 12:26:31PM +, Magnus Therning wrote: >> At work I want to add signing to our automatic build system. In >> theory it's a simple application of `gpg` at the end of building to >> get a detached signature would do, but I'm weary of sticking the >> secret key on the build servers. I'd feel a bit more safe if the >> signing could be done on a separate server. However, the built files >> are large and I don't want to introduce a bottle neck by transfering >> all files back and forth over the network. >> >> So, my idea was to somehow separate the two steps that GnuPG performs >> under the hood when signing, creating the message digest (hash) and >> the signing of this message digest. I've found `--print-md` which >> looks promising, but there doesn't seem to be any `--sign-md`. > > If mountain won't come to you, go to the mountain. > > If you don't want to store the secret key on the build server and you > don't want to copy the files over the network to a trusted server, can > you access the secret key over the network and do the gpg stuff on the > build server? I.e. pipe the secret key through ssh? Ah, yes that's a good idea, I'll have to explore that option. > I wonder about the latest comment on this thread. Examine why you don't > want the secret key on the build server and why you would feel more > secure with the signing done on a separate server. Well, the main reason is that there are _a_lot_ of people with direct access to the build server. The idea is to find a way to limit people's _direct_ access to the server with the keys. I know there are problems, but hopefully it doesn't require too much work to at least achieve some traceability in such a setup. /M -- Magnus Therning (OpenPGP: 0xAB4DFBA4) magnus＠therning．org Jabber: magnus＠therning．org http://therning.org/magnus Haskell is an even 'redder' pill than Lisp or Scheme. -- PaulPotts signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [OT] bashism (was: Re: Locale testing)
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 10:42:04AM +, Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:47:29AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > > 2008/12/7 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > For maximum compatibility, that needs to be: > > > VAR=; export VAR > > > > Compatibility with what? > > With older posix, I believe. > > http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/export.html > > posh has no problem with that. checkbashism doesn't complain about it > (even with -p). Likewise zsh and busybox ash. /me reads topic. Oops Well, I did offer a small bug fix :-) -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] bashism (was: Re: Locale testing)
On Sun, Dec 07, 2008 at 01:47:29AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > 2008/12/7 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > For maximum compatibility, that needs to be: > > VAR=; export VAR > > > > Compatibility with what? With older posix, I believe. http://www.opengroup.org/onlinepubs/009695399/utilities/export.html posh has no problem with that. checkbashism doesn't complain about it (even with -p). Likewise zsh and busybox ash. -- Tzafrir Cohen | [EMAIL PROTECTED] | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's [EMAIL PROTECTED] || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: insserv & encrypted /home
* Jochen Schulz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 03.12.2008 > > I recently re-installed Debian on my laptop because I wanted to > repartition my hard drive and use an encrypted filesystem for /home. > Everything went quite smooth, but after installing and configuring > insserv, I am sometimes unable to enter the passphrase needed for > mounting my encrypted /home. > > Insserv parallelizes the boot sequence which results in a nice speed > gain. However, the input prompt of /etc/init.d/cryptdisks is completely > broken by that. I usually don't see the prompt at all, I can just see > that the system sits idle, apparently waiting for me to enter the > password. What makes this worse is that sometimes I cannot even enter > the passphrase as the keys I type are echoed on the display and > apparently do not go anywhere else. Hello Jochen, from "man insserv" -snip-- # Services which need to be interactive boot.crypto Names starting with a `+' sign are marked as optional. If the service with the name after the plus sign is available it will be used, if not available it is ignored silently. Words beginning with < and ending with > are keywords. Currently is the only know keyword for marking a service as an interactive one, e.g. a service which requires a passphrase or password input during boot or runlevel change. -snap-- I installed "insserv" for the first time a few days ago and I have no encrypted filesystems, but I think with the above information it's possible to find a solution. Hth Michael -- "There are no shortcuts to any place worth going." signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] bashism
Thilo Six (2008-12-07 01:21 +0100) wrote: > Dotan Cohen wrote the following on 07.12.2008 00:47 >>> For maximum compatibility, that needs to be: >>> VAR=; export VAR >> Compatibility with what? > > csh, mksh, busybox, dash, zsh, ash and probably more... dash supports "export VAR=VALUE" form. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [OT] bashism
On 2008-12-07 02:04 +0100, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: > On Saturday 2008 December 06 17:47, Dotan Cohen wrote: >> 2008/12/7 Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> > For maximum compatibility, that needs to be: >> > VAR=; export VAR >> >> Compatibility with what? > > UNIX. The Single Unix Specification is maintained by the Open Group who > certify UNIX products. You should upgrade your specification. Susv3 explicitly mentions the "export name=word" syntax as supported. > In particular, Mac OS X is certified UNIX. And installs bash as /bin/sh. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
OT: Label printer
Hi, I have to give advice to a friend to buy a label printer that will work under Debian. Any advice from someone that as one working? Thanks Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: lost my desktop
Frank McCormick wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kelly Clowers wrote: On Sat, Dec 6, 2008 at 17:22, Frank McCormick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank McCormick wrote: Well not all of it -- my regular icons have been replaced by generic looking white onesand when I click on 'em (I WAS configured to single-click) the desktop files open in a text editor. I did remove an icon theme ( Nimbus I believe it was called earlier today) and installed something called Moonlight (supposed to be a Linux/Unix equiv to Silverlight) but as far as I know didn't do or change anything else. Alt-F2 still works, and the panel looks OK so it seems its just the desktop affected. It seems I can't create any new icons on the desktop either... Have you logged out and back in? Dozens of times now :) Changed themes, customized themes by choosing new icon packages...renamed the .gnome and .gnome2 directories...renamed the .nautilus directory. The strange thing is ALL the icons on the desktop now have .desktop extensions. None had before. Does it happen to all users on your system? If not, move .gnome, .gconf etc, out of the way and see if it helps -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. -- Albert Einstein -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
