Re: Experimental (temporarily)

[M.Lewis]

John Hasler wrote:

M. Lewis writes:

Given I'm running Lenny and I would like to test out the new Chrony
(announced today) which is in Experimental, how can I do this without
upgrading my entire system to Experimental?


Easily.  chrony_1.23-6rt1, the new version in Experimental, is just
chrony_1.23-6, the version in Lenny, with the real-time and mlockall()
features added.  It has no dependencies not in Lenny.  Add a line similar
to this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ experimental main

As root, do 'apt-get update'

As root, do 'apt-get -t experimental install chrony'

Remove the experimental line from /etc/apt/sources.list if you want.

You can accomplish the same result with Aptitude or Synaptic, of course.


Perfect. Thanks.

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Re: LVM reorganization [follow-up]

[M.Lewis]

Rick Thomas wrote:


On Dec 22, 2008, at 1:52 AM, M.Lewis wrote:

e2fsck -f /dev/curley/home# check consistency before 
starting (may be required by resize2fs?)
resize2fs /dev/curley/home 30G# change the size of (fs) 
/dev/curley/home from whatever it is, to 30GB
lvreduce -L 30G /dev/curley/home# change the size of the lv to 
30G


Might be nice to add at this point a cautionary

e2fsck -f /dev/curley/home# check consistency before 
starting (may be required by resize2fs?)


to make sure that "resize2fs" and "lvreduce" are in agreement on the 
meaning of "30G".  It's possible that one does it in decimal and the 
other does it in binary -- possibly resulting in a filesystem that 
thinks it's larger than the partition it's in.




Thanks for the catch Rick. Yes, that was actually in my scribbled notes. 
It just didn't make it all the way into my typed notes. Thanks!

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Re: Bug Buddy doesn'r know about firefox/iceweasel

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/23/08 17:32, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Dennis Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

Everytime, which is often, Iceweasel crashes it runs Bug Buddy but B-B 
doesn't know where to send the dump, etc.




My iceweasel [1] never crashes. It's your addons.

[1] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.3) Gecko/2008092816 
Iceweasel/3.0.4 (Debian-3.0.4-1)


Iceweasel (from Sid) crashes on me *occasionally*, but I always 
attributed it to running out of process memory.


I've now got a 64-bit kernel and 8GB RAM, but only for a week, so 
not long enough to gather any statistics.


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Re: iPod

[JoeHill]

Jeff D wrote: 

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, JoeHill wrote:
> 
> > lostson wrote:
> >  
> > > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:  
> > > > Daryl Styrk wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc.
> > > > > >> etc.  
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.  
> > >  thats not quite everything there is alot more  
> >
> > That's not exactly comforting... ;)
> >
> > I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
> > konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.
> >
> > On the other hand, I would like to see someone who had not a single Gnome
> > dep installed try to pull down gtkpod and see what comes with it.
> >
> >  
> 
> this is off a etch 64bit xen image off of jailtime.org, so, not much is
> installed by default, no x or anything.
> 
> Etch:
> apt-get install amarok:
> 0 upgraded, 124 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 80.4MB of archives.
> After unpacking 240MB of additional disk space will be used.
> 
> 
> apt-get install gtkpod:
> 0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 21.9MB of archives.
> After unpacking 74.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
> Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
> 
> Then upgraded the image to Lenny
> 
> apt-get install amarok:
> 0 upgraded, 272 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 151MB of archives.
> After this operation, 430MB of additional disk space will be used.
> 
> apt-get install gtkpod:
> 0 upgraded, 194 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 75.7MB of archives.
> After this operation, 234MB of additional disk space will be used.

lol, thanks, I didn't expect such a quick or precise answer :-)

To me, it appears that both pull in a pretty hefty 'base', but Amarok is
demanding about 80 more packages than gtkpod.

Now, I will admit that I do not know how much more functionality Amarok might
add, so I'm not saying that those extra 80 packages are just 'fluff'.

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Re: Con[cat]enate two video files

[Anoop Aryal]

On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 03:04 +0100, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
> On 2008-12-23 13:28:50 -0600, Anoop Aryal wrote:
> > It might have already been mentioned but, I've been using ffmpeg and
> > mencoder
> 
> What package? "apt-file search bin/mencoder" finds nothing.
> 

do you have debian multimedia in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?

i've got:
deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main

I am using Lenny, of course.

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Re: iPod

[Jeff D]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008, JoeHill wrote:

> lostson wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> > > Daryl Styrk wrote:
> > >
> > > > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc.
> > > > >> etc.
> > > > >
> > > > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> >  thats not quite everything there is alot more
>
> That's not exactly comforting... ;)
>
> I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
> konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.
>
> On the other hand, I would like to see someone who had not a single Gnome dep
> installed try to pull down gtkpod and see what comes with it.
>
>

this is off a etch 64bit xen image off of jailtime.org, so, not much is
installed by default, no x or anything.

Etch:
apt-get install amarok:
0 upgraded, 124 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 80.4MB of archives.
After unpacking 240MB of additional disk space will be used.


apt-get install gtkpod:
0 upgraded, 40 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 21.9MB of archives.
After unpacking 74.4MB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n

Then upgraded the image to Lenny

apt-get install amarok:
0 upgraded, 272 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 151MB of archives.
After this operation, 430MB of additional disk space will be used.

apt-get install gtkpod:
0 upgraded, 194 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 75.7MB of archives.
After this operation, 234MB of additional disk space will be used.


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Re: No sound on a Thinkpad T61 w/ ALSA and AS1984 sound card (redux)

[Rob Starling]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 07:31:12PM -0800, Kyle Barbour wrote:
> A while back (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/01/msg02415.html),
> I was having trouble getting sound  to work on my Thinkpad T61.
> Although that was resolved and everything worked wonderfully, a few
> days ago sound stopped working again, and I haven't been successful at
> fixing the problem. Neither the internal speakers nor the headphones
> produce any sound. The master volume and the PCM volume are on full,
> neither are muted, and both the speaker and headphones are enabled.
> 
> My sound card is an Analog Devices 1984 (AD1984) sound card, and I'm
> running Debian Lenny (2.6.26-1-686 kernel) with ALSA 1.0.16. According
> to thinkwiki (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/AD1984), this card should
> be supported in the kernel and in the alsa driver in the versions I'm
> using.
> 
> lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel returns:
> 
> snd_hdsnd_hda_intel 324248  2
> snd_pcm62596  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
> snd45604  12
> snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
> snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
> a_intel 324248  2
> snd_pcm62596  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
> snd45604  12
> snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
> snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
> 
> so it looks as though the correct module is loaded.
> 
> I tried reconfiguring the sound card with alsaconf, which didn't fix
> the problem, although it reported a successful status. Compiling ALSA
> from alsa-source (using module-assistant) and manually loading the
> modules didn't fix anything either (so maybe not an ALSA problem?).
> 
> Some more information:
> 
> $ cat /proc/asound/cards
> 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
>  HDA Intel at 0xfe02 irq 17
> $ cat /proc/asound/version
> Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16.
> $ cat /dev/sndstat
> Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
> Kernel: Linux finnegan 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 18:15:07 UTC 2008 i686
> Config options: 0
> 
> Installed drivers:
> Type 10: ALSA emulation
> 
> Card config:
> HDA Intel at 0xfe02 irq 17
> 
> Audio devices:
> 0: AD198x Analog (DUPLEX)
> 
> Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
> 
> Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG
> 
> Timers:
> 7: system timer
> 
> Mixers:
> 0: Analog Devices AD1984
> 
> Any thoughts on what might be causing the problem?

do you need the OSS stuff?  might it be that something is
grabbing the resource there and hogging it?

i also have a T61 and my /proc/asound/cards looks the same,
but for some reason (maybe the lack of OSS), my /dev/sndstat
has no Audio devices nor Mixers:

# cat /dev/sndstat 
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux pride 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Nov 8 18:25:23 UTC 2008 x86_64
Config options: 0

Installed drivers: 
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config: 
HDA Intel at 0xfe02 irq 17

Audio devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

My sound, however, *does* work.  The Gnome volume applet sees
it as "HDA Intel (Alsa mixer)" just like yours.  Make sure
you're controlling the right device (File | Change Device)

Let me know if there are other comparative things i can post
to help.

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Re: How to stop squirrelmail temporarily

[Stephen Liu]

> On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 11:38 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
> 
> > I need ports 143 and 993 for another test.  I suspect SquirrelMail
> > taking up those ports.
> 
> Your imap server will listen on those ports; Squirrelmail will
> connect
> to one of those, but not listen on it.



Hi Richard,


Thanks for your advice.


I'm testing perdition: Mail Retrieval Proxy
http://www.vergenet.net/linux/perdition/


but can't get it started;

# tail -9 /var/log/syslog | grep perdition
..
vanessa_socket_server_bind_sockaddr_in: bind: Address already in use
Dec 24 03:37:44 xen13 perdition[3247]: vanessa_socket_server_bind:
vanessa_socket_server_bind
Dec 24 03:37:44 xen13 perdition[3247]: main: vanessa_socket_server_bind
Dec 24 03:37:44 xen13 perdition[3247]: Fatal error listening for
connections. Exiting.


perdition uses ports 143 and 993


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Re: iPod

[JoeHill]

lostson wrote: 

> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> > Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> >   
> > > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc.
> > > >> etc.
> > > > 
> > > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> > > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
> > > but not the entire environment packages.  
> > 
> > Wha?
> > 
> > When I do 'aptitude install amarok', I get this:
> > 
> > The following NEW packages will be installed:
> >   amarok amarok-common{a} amarok-engine-xine{a} amarok-konqsidebar{a} 
> >   kamera{a} kcontrol{a} kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-bin-kde3{a} kdebase-data{a} 
> >   kdebase-kio-plugins{a} kdeeject{a} kdelibs-data{a} kdelibs4c2a{a} 
> >   kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} kdesktop{a} kfind{a} kicker{a} konqueror{a} 
> >   libakode2{a} libarts1-akode{a} libarts1c2a{a} libavahi-qt3-1{a} 
> >   libdbus-qt-1-1c2{a} libifp4{a} libkarma0{a} libkcddb1{a} libkonq4{a} 
> >   liblua50{a} liblualib50{a} libnjb5{a} libruby1.8{a} libtunepimp5{a} 
> >   oss-compat{a} ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} 
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   id3v2{u} libid3-3.8.3c2a{u} libungif4-dev{u} vorbis-tools{u} 
> > 0 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> > Need to get 58.7MB of archives. After unpacking 157MB will be used.
> > 
> > That looks like pretty much everything to me, no?
> > 
> > -- 
> > J
> > 
> > 
> > --   
>  thats not quite everything there is alot more 

That's not exactly comforting... ;)

I'm just not sure why I would have to install kdesktop, kicker, kamera, and
konqueror for an app that syncs with my iPod.

On the other hand, I would like to see someone who had not a single Gnome dep
installed try to pull down gtkpod and see what comes with it.

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Re: iPod

[lostson]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:24:28PM -0500, JoeHill wrote:
> Daryl Styrk wrote: 
> 
> > >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.  
> > > 
> > > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> > >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
> > but not the entire environment packages.
> 
> Wha?
> 
> When I do 'aptitude install amarok', I get this:
> 
> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>   amarok amarok-common{a} amarok-engine-xine{a} amarok-konqsidebar{a} 
>   kamera{a} kcontrol{a} kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-bin-kde3{a} kdebase-data{a} 
>   kdebase-kio-plugins{a} kdeeject{a} kdelibs-data{a} kdelibs4c2a{a} 
>   kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} kdesktop{a} kfind{a} kicker{a} konqueror{a} 
>   libakode2{a} libarts1-akode{a} libarts1c2a{a} libavahi-qt3-1{a} 
>   libdbus-qt-1-1c2{a} libifp4{a} libkarma0{a} libkcddb1{a} libkonq4{a} 
>   liblua50{a} liblualib50{a} libnjb5{a} libruby1.8{a} libtunepimp5{a} 
>   oss-compat{a} ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} 
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   id3v2{u} libid3-3.8.3c2a{u} libungif4-dev{u} vorbis-tools{u} 
> 0 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
> Need to get 58.7MB of archives. After unpacking 157MB will be used.
> 
> That looks like pretty much everything to me, no?
> 
> -- 
> J
> 
> 
> -- 
 thats not quite everything there is alot more 

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Re: iPod

[JoeHill]

Daryl Styrk wrote: 

> >> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.  
> > 
> > ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> >   
> 
> 
> 
> kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
> but not the entire environment packages.

Wha?

When I do 'aptitude install amarok', I get this:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  amarok amarok-common{a} amarok-engine-xine{a} amarok-konqsidebar{a} 
  kamera{a} kcontrol{a} kdebase-bin{a} kdebase-bin-kde3{a} kdebase-data{a} 
  kdebase-kio-plugins{a} kdeeject{a} kdelibs-data{a} kdelibs4c2a{a} 
  kdemultimedia-kio-plugins{a} kdesktop{a} kfind{a} kicker{a} konqueror{a} 
  libakode2{a} libarts1-akode{a} libarts1c2a{a} libavahi-qt3-1{a} 
  libdbus-qt-1-1c2{a} libifp4{a} libkarma0{a} libkcddb1{a} libkonq4{a} 
  liblua50{a} liblualib50{a} libnjb5{a} libruby1.8{a} libtunepimp5{a} 
  oss-compat{a} ruby{a} ruby1.8{a} 
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  id3v2{u} libid3-3.8.3c2a{u} libungif4-dev{u} vorbis-tools{u} 
0 packages upgraded, 35 newly installed, 4 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 58.7MB of archives. After unpacking 157MB will be used.

That looks like pretty much everything to me, no?

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Re: iPod

[Daryl Styrk]

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>> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.
> 
> ...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.
> 



kde must be pretty small then..  there are some libs that come with it,
but not the entire environment packages.

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Re: How to stop squirrelmail temporarily

[Richard Hector]

On Wed, 2008-12-24 at 11:38 +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:

> I need ports 143 and 993 for another test.  I suspect SquirrelMail
> taking up those ports.

Your imap server will listen on those ports; Squirrelmail will connect
to one of those, but not listen on it.

Richard



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Re: iPod

[JoeHill]

Johannes Wiedersich wrote: 

> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Raquel wrote:
> > Okay, I've gotten rid of the Creative Zen and ordered the iPod Nano
> > as a gift to Trish, my spouse. What do I need to manage the iPod Nano?
> > I'd just as soon not use a command line to do it, largely because
> > Trish is going to be managing her own iPod after I get it first
> > loaded.  So, a gui would be nice for her.  
> 
> YMMV, but I'd recommend trying amarok for everyone who wants more than
> just copying files from hard disk to ipod or vice verse. It helps
> organize my music, downloads my favourite radio programmes on schedule
> and bookmarks them for transfer to the ipod on next connect, etc. etc.

...and will also pull down the _entire_ KDE desktop with it.

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Re: How to stop squirrelmail temporarily

[Stephen Liu]

--- Tzafrir Cohen  wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 08:02:02PM +0800, Stephen Liu wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > 
> > 
> > Debian Etch
> > Postfix
> > SquirrelMail
> > Apache2
> > 
> > 
> > Please advise how to stop squirrelmail, the webmail, running
> > temporarily.  TIA
> 
> Stop apache? Add a temporary rewrite / alias / symlink to redirect
> the 
> traffic to a "down for repairs" page? Make the 404 page "down for 
> repairs"?


Hi Tzafrir,


I need ports 143 and 993 for another test.  I suspect SquirrelMail
taking up those ports.


Thanks


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No sound on a Thinkpad T61 w/ ALSA and AS1984 sound card (redux)

[Kyle Barbour]

Hello everyone,

A while back (http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2008/01/msg02415.html),
I was having trouble getting sound  to work on my Thinkpad T61.
Although that was resolved and everything worked wonderfully, a few
days ago sound stopped working again, and I haven't been successful at
fixing the problem. Neither the internal speakers nor the headphones
produce any sound. The master volume and the PCM volume are on full,
neither are muted, and both the speaker and headphones are enabled.

My sound card is an Analog Devices 1984 (AD1984) sound card, and I'm
running Debian Lenny (2.6.26-1-686 kernel) with ALSA 1.0.16. According
to thinkwiki (http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/AD1984), this card should
be supported in the kernel and in the alsa driver in the versions I'm
using.

lsmod | grep snd_hda_intel returns:

snd_hdsnd_hda_intel 324248  2
snd_pcm62596  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
snd45604  12
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm
a_intel 324248  2
snd_pcm62596  2 snd_pcm_oss,snd_hda_intel
snd45604  12
snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
snd_page_alloc  7816  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

so it looks as though the correct module is loaded.

I tried reconfiguring the sound card with alsaconf, which didn't fix
the problem, although it reported a successful status. Compiling ALSA
from alsa-source (using module-assistant) and manually loading the
modules didn't fix anything either (so maybe not an ALSA problem?).

Some more information:

$ cat /proc/asound/cards
0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
 HDA Intel at 0xfe02 irq 17
$ cat /proc/asound/version
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.16.
$ cat /dev/sndstat
Sound Driver:3.8.1a-980706 (ALSA v1.0.16 emulation code)
Kernel: Linux finnegan 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Mon Dec 15 18:15:07 UTC 2008 i686
Config options: 0

Installed drivers:
Type 10: ALSA emulation

Card config:
HDA Intel at 0xfe02 irq 17

Audio devices:
0: AD198x Analog (DUPLEX)

Synth devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Midi devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

Timers:
7: system timer

Mixers:
0: Analog Devices AD1984

Any thoughts on what might be causing the problem?

Thanks!

Kyle Barbour


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Re: Con[cat]enate two video files

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2008-12-23 13:28:50 -0600, Anoop Aryal wrote:
> It might have already been mentioned but, I've been using ffmpeg and
> mencoder

What package? "apt-file search bin/mencoder" finds nothing.

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Re: Conditional mounting from fstab

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 23 19:48:28 Micha Feigin wrote:
> Is it possible to get conditional mounting from fstab?

No.

> I'm trying to setup an nfs server that exports it's root as read only for
> nfsroot to other systems. For that to work I mount var,tmp,home etc from
> each machines local disk by mounting the local disk to /local and then
> mounting them using mount --bind (using the bind fstab option). This works,
> only it makes the server do some circles by mounting /dev/sda1 as root, as
> /local and then again double mounting home, etc, tmp,var etc.
>
> Is there a simple way to avoid this on the server, and/or is there any
> overhead to this (if there is no access overhead then I guess that there is
> also no damage)

Try like this in fstab:
/dev/sda1 /.local-storage
/.local-storage/var /var (w/ bind option, later pass) 
/.local-storage/tmp /tmp (w/ bind option, later pass)
/.local-storage/home /home (w/ bind option, later pass)
/.local-storage/etc /etc (w/ bind option, later pass)

I think that should do what you want.
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Re: Using old diskless machine as X terminal

[Chris Jones]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:47:02AM EST, Ross Boylan wrote:

[..]

> All my options seem to involve work!  

Sounds more like _fun_ to me ... !

:-)

> So far, I've spent a lot of time with nothing to show.

Not really ... at least you've gotten me (yet again) interested in this
issue.  And yes, it _is_ a bit more involved than figuring out where you
change your resolution in the gnome desktop.

[..]

> I was hoping it would be adequate as an X terminal ..
> 
> Someone suggested ..  CD-ROM .. 
> 
> I've seen several suggestions ..
> 
> PXE booting .. 

Written 8 years ago .. nothing much has likely changed in this area:

http://www.naos.co.nz/papers/diskless/index.html

Don't give up! I for one, would be curious of your progress.

HTH

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Conditional mounting from fstab

[Micha Feigin]

Is it possible to get conditional mounting from fstab?

I'm trying to setup an nfs server that exports it's root as read only for
nfsroot to other systems. For that to work I mount var,tmp,home etc from each
machines local disk by mounting the local disk to /local and then mounting them
using mount --bind (using the bind fstab option). This works, only it makes the
server do some circles by mounting /dev/sda1 as root, as /local and then again
double mounting home, etc, tmp,var etc.

Is there a simple way to avoid this on the server, and/or is there any overhead
to this (if there is no access overhead then I guess that there is also no
damage)

thanks


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getting pbs_mom to send files back to server

[Micha Feigin]

I'm trying to setup a pbs system (torque + maui). My current problem is that
processes leave their input/output/error files on the host they ran on instead
of copying them back to the server.

Is there a way to instruct them to copy the files back to the server or do I
need to setup shared home over nfs? (which I may have to do anyway to transfer
data, but I'm trying to limit the amount of data users can leave laying around
on the server)

thanks


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Re: Bug Buddy doesn'r know about firefox/iceweasel

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Dennis Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

Everytime, which is often, Iceweasel crashes it runs Bug Buddy but B-B 
doesn't know where to send the dump, etc.




My iceweasel [1] never crashes. It's your addons.

[1] Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; en-US; rv:1.9.0.3) Gecko/2008092816 
Iceweasel/3.0.4 (Debian-3.0.4-1)



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Re: Instructions for upgrading from Etch to Lenny?

[Abel McClendon]

 On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 17:17:29 -0500
 Ken Heard  wrote:
> I had so many untold miseries upgrading from sarge to etch that I
> promised myself never to upgrade again -- only to do a completely fresh
> installation.
> 
> - From this thread I now see three *-upgrade commands mentioned for
> aptitude: dist-upgrade, safe-upgrade and full-upgrade.  Only
> dist-upgrade is mentioned in the aptitude man page and in Debian
> Reference.  Does any Debian documentation refer to these other two
> commands?  (I could not find any.)  If not, why not?
> 
> Regards, Ken Heard

aptitude install aptitude-doc-en
there's several references there for safe-upgrade. 

I did a "man aptitude"  and safe-upgrade is listed there.
(after the man page opened I pressed the / key and searched...)

I also from a terminal issued this command (after changing to /usr/share/doc
# grep -Harn safe-upgrade *

and I got a couple screens full of references.

I didn't go after the other one.

I kinda thought they were 'new' to me as well. So I began reading. what dawned
on me is that I had seen those words before in the GUI 'update-mgr' or
whatever it's name is in gnome... I use it now to check the change logs...

keep in mind this is already a 'Lenny' box.
# cat /etc/issue.net
Debian GNU/Linux 5.0

ii  aptitude 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1  terminal-based package manager




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Re: Instructions for upgrading from Etch to Lenny?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 23 16:17:29 Ken Heard wrote:
> From this thread I now see three *-upgrade commands mentioned for
> aptitude: dist-upgrade, safe-upgrade and full-upgrade.  Only
> dist-upgrade is mentioned in the aptitude man page and in Debian
> Reference.  Does any Debian documentation refer to these other two
> commands?  (I could not find any.)  If not, why not?

If not, it's probably because the have not been updated to match the aptitude 
in Lenny (which is fine, since Lenny isn't out yet).  From Lenny forward the 
old "upgrade" is now "safe-upgrade" and the old "dist-upgrade" is 
now "full-upgrade".

I suppose these names better fit what the different solvers[1] do.  The full 
upgrade may not move you to a new "dist", but it will remove packages in 
order to upgrade more packages.  The safe upgrade will avoid removing 
packages (most likely cause of breakage) even if that means not upgrading a 
package.  That's pretty much always been their behavior, even under their old 
names.

[1] Same solver, just different weights for different actions.
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Re: Instructions for upgrading from Etch to Lenny?

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Ken Heard wrote:
> I had so many untold miseries upgrading from sarge to etch that I
> promised myself never to upgrade again -- only to do a completely fresh
> installation.
> 
> - From this thread I now see three *-upgrade commands mentioned for
> aptitude: dist-upgrade, safe-upgrade and full-upgrade.  Only
> dist-upgrade is mentioned in the aptitude man page and in Debian
> Reference.  Does any Debian documentation refer to these other two
> commands?  (I could not find any.)  If not, why not?
> 
> Regards, Ken Heard
> 
> 


I believe you can attribute this to your version of aptitude.  I have
0.4.11.11 from Lenny and I believe full-upgrade has replaced dist-upgrade.

for example
# aptitude upgrade
W: The "upgrade" command is deprecated; use "safe-upgrade" instead.

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Re: Instructions for upgrading from Etch to Lenny?

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I had so many untold miseries upgrading from sarge to etch that I
promised myself never to upgrade again -- only to do a completely fresh
installation.

- From this thread I now see three *-upgrade commands mentioned for
aptitude: dist-upgrade, safe-upgrade and full-upgrade.  Only
dist-upgrade is mentioned in the aptitude man page and in Debian
Reference.  Does any Debian documentation refer to these other two
commands?  (I could not find any.)  If not, why not?

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Re: shortcuts sought for mutt

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sun,14.Dec.08, 22:08:19, Bernard wrote:

> properly. On my Desktop with Sarge, I already had an unwanted upgrade 
> about 8-9 months ago : willing to type '#apt-get update", I had 
> carelessly typed "#apt-get upgrade". It took several hours until I 
> could do anything. Then, quite a few thing no longer worked, and I had 
> to upgrade things one by one, each upgrade requiring a lot of time, 
> since this implied upgrading quite a few dependances for each program. 
> I would say that it took more than twelve hours altogether. In the 
> end, lots of things did not work properly. So, a distant friend 
> advised me to install a new kernel, so, I now have 2.6.20 running on 
> my system. Nevertheless, it still is a "sarge" system. No doubt that I 

Are you sure it's still sarge? How does your sources.list look like (I 
bet you have stable in there).

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Re: Making sure eth interfaces are numbered consistently

[Micha Feigin]

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 08:36:12 +
Bob Cox  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 09, 2008 at 11:26:34 -0600, Ron Johnson (ron.l.john...@cox.net)
> wrote: 
> 
> > On 12/09/08 11:22, Micha Feigin wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> i have 4 network interfaces in my machine all using the e1000e driver.
> >>
> >> Can I be assured that they are all numbered consistently on each boot (i.e
> >> that the same card is always eth0) or if not, is there a way to force it?
> >
> > Yes.  Look in:
> >
> > /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
> 

I tried using this one and it works mostly. The problem is that I start one of
the interfaces at boot to have nfs root enabled and it doesn't seem that this
works to change the name of the already configured interface. Is there a way to
bypass this or is there something wrong with my files?

> One way is with ifrename [1] which is maybe just a convenient front-end
> to Ron's suggestion.
> 

etc is mounted read only (via nfs), and I don't know if that is the cause but
it complains that iftab is missing.

> [1] # aptitude install ifrename 
> 
> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/ifrename
> 


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Re: my debian system *flickers*

[Kelly Clowers]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:07, BLANC JOEL  wrote:
> (please cc me for I'm unsuscribed)
>
> Since I have upgraded my system, it *flickers*.
> The boot happens normally (the GRUB file mentions linux 2.6.7-1-386),
> the ``come up" seems to well happen also. But when I come to the GNOME
> screen,
> this one lasts only for an instant (the _login_ window doesn't display), the
> screen passes
> (briefly) to black, then it displays the text screen (briefly also), then
> the screen repasses
> to black, then we restart to the GNOME screen.
> This sequence happens 5 times, then a screen displays:
>
> "The display server has been shut down about 6 times in the last"
> "90 seconds, it is likely that something bad is going on. I will  "
> wait for 2 minutes before trying again on display :0."
>
>   ""
>
> the message  being displayed in red. The system makes 2 errors:
> it happens 5 flickers rather than 6, and to wait is useless. Validing makes
> return to the text screen (which gives me a login. Hopefully I may retake
> the hand) for about 2 minutes, after which there is the return of the
> flickering
> (but 7 times, this time). I precise my system is set on _stable_.
>
> A lsmod gives:
> module Size Used by
> [...]
> radeon 115236   0
> [...]
>
> A hwinfo gives:
> - kernel log -
> [...]
> <6>agpgart: Found an AGP compliant device at :00:00.0
> <6>agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x
> <6>agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 1x mode
> <6>agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 1x mode
> <6>apm BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
> <5>apm: overridden by ACPI
> [repeated many times]
> [...]
> = end debug info =
> [...]
> 24: PCI(AGP) 100.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA)
> [no line "Module Alias :"]
> [...]
>
> If I run startx, I have a blue and gray logo, with the Debian logo embedded
> in
> black, which displays not less than 3 seconds ! The flickering restarts
> nevertheless. And there is a message :
> "AUDIT: Fri Oct 31 10:16:21 2008 4552 X: client 4 rejected"
> "waiting for X server to shut down"
>
> Anyone has an idea ?

What does your /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?


Cheers,
Kelly Clowers


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Re: Using old diskless machine as X terminal

[Robert Brockway]

On Mon, 22 Dec 2008, Ross Boylan wrote:


I switched to trying to get a 100Mhz Pentium with 64MB of RAM working.
Unfortunately, it can't boot from CD-ROM (maybe something broke--the CD
ROM is still readable, though).  Nor does it directly support network
booting.  Its disks are basically full; it's running Windows NT 4, but
my other family members are finding it intolerably slow.  I was hoping
it would be adequate as an X terminal.


There is an easy way to turn an MS-Windows system into an XTerminal 
although I'm not sure it will work with something as old as NT4.


- Install Cygwin.

- Install the X server

- Don't bother installing any other Cygwin tools as you won't be using 
them.


- Use "X -query" as you normally would to connect to a remote display 
manager that is accepting remote queries.


- Login

If you set the X server to be full screen then you can alt-tab between the 
MS-Windows environment and the *nix environment.


It can take some time to explain to users that the apps they are running 
are not runnning on the local box.


Otherwise for a box that can't boot from cdrom or NIC it would seem you'd 
be stuck with floppy booting.


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Re: Instructions for upgrading from Etch to Lenny?

[Eugene V. Lyubimkin]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rick Thomas wrote:
>> 1. change distribution in your sources.list to 'lenny' or 'testing' (latter
>>works until official Lenny release);
>> 2. 'aptitude update'
>> 3. 'aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude'
>> 4. 'aptitude full-upgrade'

> ...`aptitude safe-upgrade' before 'aptitude full-upgrade'?
Yes, may be also useful.

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Re: Con[cat]enate two video files

[Anoop Aryal]

On Tue, 2008-12-23 at 20:01 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> 
> >> [...] I tried to `cat' a file with no audio in it with another with audio 
> >> in
> >> it, and what happens is that the audio of the second one is shifted back at
> >> the beginning of the `total' file (cat file1 file2 > total).  Apart from
> >> that, it's fine.  But, how to avoid this undesired effect?
> 
> 
> 
> "Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:
> 
> > Can you add silent audio to the first file first?
> 
> 
> I tried with Cinelerra, but then I have no audio at all in the final total
> file.  Maybe mjpegtools can achieve that?  Anyone out there with direct
> experience with it?
> 

It might have already been mentioned but, I've been using ffmpeg and
mencoder (at times, both - since the two seem to be able to do things
the other can't). But those are command line tools. PITA when you cannot
work off of timelines.. Otherwise, you can splice videos together with
offsets etc.. worked quite well for me. .. and do format conversions
quite easily.

hope that helps.
Anoop.

> Rodolfo
> 
> 


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Re: Instructions for upgrading from Etch to Lenny?

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rick Thomas wrote:

>> Are there step-by-step instructions somewhere for doing a dist-upgrade
>> from Etch (current stable) to Lenny (soon-to-be stable)?



"Eugene V. Lyubimkin"  writes:

> Near-official recommended procedure follows:
>
> 1. change distribution in your sources.list to 'lenny' or 'testing' (latter
>works until official Lenny release);
> 2. 'aptitude update'
> 3. 'aptitude install dpkg apt aptitude'
> 4. 'aptitude full-upgrade'



...`aptitude safe-upgrade' before 'aptitude full-upgrade'?

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Re: Hypervisor on an existing system?

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> I run the vmware server.
> Downloaded from their homepage.
> Then I run XP.
> Samba makes it easy to share home directories.
>
> But I'd like to run, let's say Lenny.
> But I've never figured out how to share home dirs. with that.
>   

You can use samba, if you install it both the host and the guest. You
can also use nfs, or scp/sftp to copy files.


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Re: Con[cat]enate two video files

[Rodolfo Medina]

Rodolfo Medina wrote:

>> [...] I tried to `cat' a file with no audio in it with another with audio in
>> it, and what happens is that the audio of the second one is shifted back at
>> the beginning of the `total' file (cat file1 file2 > total).  Apart from
>> that, it's fine.  But, how to avoid this undesired effect?



"Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:

> Can you add silent audio to the first file first?


I tried with Cinelerra, but then I have no audio at all in the final total
file.  Maybe mjpegtools can achieve that?  Anyone out there with direct
experience with it?

Rodolfo


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Re: Hypervisor on an existing system?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Ron Johnson wrote:


I don't know enough about the subject to be able to intelligently 
Google, so I thought I'd ask first.


My system is a fully-kitted out Sid system, and I'd like to experiment 
with virtual machines.


Is this possible, or do I have to start from bare metal?



I run the vmware server.
Downloaded from their homepage.
Then I run XP.
Samba makes it easy to share home directories.

But I'd like to run, let's say Lenny.
But I've never figured out how to share home dirs. with that.

Hugo


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Re: Nit-query

[Jack Schneider]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 18:24:54 +
Tzafr irCohen  wrote:

> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:17:41AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:
> > 
> > Hi,all
> > I have just used CLI 'users' command.  I get two(2) entries for
> > myself. Re:
> > j...@speeduke:~$ users
> > jack jack
> 
> See also:
> 
>   w
>   who
>   finger
> 
> It also depends on your terminal. Some terminals don't register each
> new terminal as a login entry in utmp .
> 

Hi, Tzafr

Is that a/the reason for  SYSTEM > ADMINISTRATION > USERS&GROUPS>
ROOT(password) gives so many user entries???
TIA
Jack
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Re: cannot boot after update

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Simon Kranz wrote:


What happens if you disable gdm to get it to boot and then run:

Xorg -configure

That gets you an xorg.conf.

What happens if you use that xorg.conf?

Hugo


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Re: Nit-query

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 11:17:41AM -0600, Jack Schneider wrote:
> 
> Hi,all
> I have just used CLI 'users' command.  I get two(2) entries for myself.
> Re:
> j...@speeduke:~$ users
> jack jack

See also:

  w
  who
  finger

It also depends on your terminal. Some terminals don't register each new
terminal as a login entry in utmp .

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Re: Nit-query

[Jack Schneider]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 09:43:50 -0800
Raquel  wrote:

> On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:17:41 -0600
> Jack Schneider  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Hi,all
> > I have just used CLI 'users' command.  I get two(2) entries for
> > myself. Re:
> > j...@speeduke:~$ users
> > jack jack
> > 
> > Is this normal???
> > ---
> 
> Let's see, I have 9 "raquel" because I have 6 windows open and 3
> terminals, using ssh, to other machines.
> 
OK, Thanks folks.  I get it!!
Jack


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Re: Nit-query

[Raquel]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 11:17:41 -0600
Jack Schneider  wrote:

> 
> Hi,all
> I have just used CLI 'users' command.  I get two(2) entries for
> myself. Re:
> j...@speeduke:~$ users
> jack jack
> 
> Is this normal???
> ---

Let's see, I have 9 "raquel" because I have 6 windows open and 3
terminals, using ssh, to other machines.

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Re: Release Cycle

[Paul E Condon]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:28:43PM +0800, Koh Choon Lin wrote:
> Dear all
> 
> Anyone has an idea what is the release cycle for Debian? I understand
> six months is the standard for Ubuntu.
> 

The operative rule for all recent releases is that each release
happens when the release manager decides that the code is ready for
release, and not a minute before.

The Biref History of Debian lists all releases and their dates. The last
release that did not have a code name from Toy Story was in Nov,
1995. The most recent named release is Etch which happened on Apr 8,
2007. This is an interval of 11.5 years, or 138 months. There have
been 8 named releases. The mean interval between releases is 138/8
months, i.e. 17.25 months per release.

With a history of eigth releases, it is beginning to be meaningful to
calculate a variance of the release interval, but I'm too lazy to do
it. ;-)

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Re: Nit-query

[Eugene V. Lyubimkin]

Jack Schneider wrote:
> Hi,all
> I have just used CLI 'users' command.  I get two(2) entries for myself.
> Re:
> j...@speeduke:~$ users
> jack jack
> 
> Is this normal???
> ---
$ users
jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf
jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf jackyf

:)

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Hi,all
I have just used CLI 'users' command.  I get two(2) entries for myself.
Re:
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jack jack

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Re: How to install chinese fonts for ps output file?

[Jeff Soules]

Not sure if this is exactly what you're looking for, but there is a
TrueType font package freely available from Arphic which can be
installed using apt*.  Please see:

http://isis.poly.edu/~qiming/chinese-debian-mini-howto.html#Installing_Fonts

I'm away from my Debian box and don't have a printer anyway (so I
don't think I installed much in the way of postscript support), so I
am not sure this will solve your problem, but I hope it is helpful.

Best,
js

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:23 PM, Rodolfo Medina
 wrote:
> With Emacs, I correctly open a file including chinese characters.  The
> characters are correctly displayed in the text file, but when I try to create
> the ps file, with `C-u M-x pr-ps-print-buffer-preview' or `C-u M-x
> pr-ps-print-buffer-print', they are not displayed.
>
> I know I miss some fonts.  Can anyone suggest what fonts and where to download
> them and how to install them in Debian?
>
> Thanks for any help
> Rodolfo
>
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Re: How do I get the japanese font back that is broken since the last update? (2)

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Tuesday 2008 December 23 09:45:42 Osamu Aoki wrote:
> The document by Estival Guillaume found by Dirk is about Etch (i.e., old
> stable) as it is written there.  It links to updated page for Sarge
> (current stable) at:
>
> http://dspnet.fr/~lonewolf/LinuxJapan/Howto_English_Japanese_woody.html

I think you probably know this, but currently Etch is Stable, Sarge is 
OldStable (and has been moved to archive), Woody was the release before Sarge 
(and was moved to archive quite a while ago).

Of course, this will change soon with Lenny becoming Stable, but my main point 
is that Etch is newer than Sarge which is newer than Woody.
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Re: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[Sven Joachim]

On 2008-12-23 17:07 +0100, Zaki Akhmad wrote:

> On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
>> Exactly.  FWIW, I kind of expected that, it's a rather common error
>> when installing linux-image packages because
>>
>> - they are rather large and dump everything into the root partition
>>
>> - old versions are not automatically deleted by apt/aptitude.
>>
>> Also note that during the package upgrades you need to have enough free
>> space for both the old and the new version of the package.
>
> Which partition I should free up?
> I mean, so that I can install new linux-image package.

The root partition, i.e. the one mounted on /.

> Here's my df -h
>
> # df -h
> FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/hda1 259M  207M   38M  85% /

Here is your problem, official linux-image-* packages do not fit into
that space:

,
| % aptitude show linux-image-2.6.26-1-686 | grep Size:
| Uncompressed Size: 59.5M
`

In the short run you can free space by removing old kernels, but if you
plan to have more than two kernels installed concurrently, you probably
have to bite the bullet and repartition.

> tmpfs 253M 0  253M   0% /lib/init/rw
> udev   10M   96K   10M   1% /dev
> tmpfs 253M 0  253M   0% /dev/shm
> /dev/hda9 9.4G  150M  8.8G   2% /home
> /dev/hda8 373M   11M  343M   3% /tmp
> /dev/hda5 4.6G  541M  3.9G  13% /usr
> /dev/hda6 2.8G  771M  1.9G  29% /var

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my debian system *flickers*

[BLANC JOEL]

(please cc me for I'm unsuscribed)
 
Since I have upgraded my system, it *flickers*.
The boot happens normally (the GRUB file mentions linux 2.6.7-1-386),
the ``come up" seems to well happen also. But when I come to the GNOME screen,
this one lasts only for an instant (the _login_ window doesn't display), the 
screen passes
(briefly) to black, then it displays the text screen (briefly also), then the 
screen repasses
to black, then we restart to the GNOME screen.
This sequence happens 5 times, then a screen displays:
 
"The display server has been shut down about 6 times in the last"
"90 seconds, it is likely that something bad is going on. I will  "
wait for 2 minutes before trying again on display :0."
 
  ""
 
the message  being displayed in red. The system makes 2 errors:
it happens 5 flickers rather than 6, and to wait is useless. Validing makes
return to the text screen (which gives me a login. Hopefully I may retake
the hand) for about 2 minutes, after which there is the return of the flickering
(but 7 times, this time). I precise my system is set on _stable_.
 
A lsmod gives:
module Size Used by
[...]
radeon 115236   0
[...]
 
A hwinfo gives:
- kernel log -
[...]
<6>agpgart: Found an AGP compliant device at :00:00.0
<6>agpgart: Device is in legacy mode, falling back to 2.x
<6>agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :00:00.0 into 1x mode
<6>agpgart: Putting AGP V2 device at :01:00.0 into 1x mode
<6>apm BIOS version 1.2 Flags 0x03 (Driver version 1.16ac)
<5>apm: overridden by ACPI
[repeated many times]
[...]
= end debug info =
[...]
24: PCI(AGP) 100.0: 0300 VGA compatible controller (VGA)
[no line "Module Alias :"]
[...]
 
If I run startx, I have a blue and gray logo, with the Debian logo embedded in
black, which displays not less than 3 seconds ! The flickering restarts
nevertheless. And there is a message :
"AUDIT: Fri Oct 31 10:16:21 2008 4552 X: client 4 rejected"
"waiting for X server to shut down"
 
Anyone has an idea ?
 
Heartly yours,
J. Blanc


  

How to install chinese fonts for ps output file?

[Rodolfo Medina]

With Emacs, I correctly open a file including chinese characters.  The
characters are correctly displayed in the text file, but when I try to create
the ps file, with `C-u M-x pr-ps-print-buffer-preview' or `C-u M-x
pr-ps-print-buffer-print', they are not displayed.

I know I miss some fonts.  Can anyone suggest what fonts and where to download
them and how to install them in Debian?

Thanks for any help
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Re: E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

[Zaki Akhmad]

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On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 5:06 PM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> Exactly.  FWIW, I kind of expected that, it's a rather common error
> when installing linux-image packages because
>
> - they are rather large and dump everything into the root partition
>
> - old versions are not automatically deleted by apt/aptitude.
>
> Also note that during the package upgrades you need to have enough free
> space for both the old and the new version of the package.

Which partition I should free up?
I mean, so that I can install new linux-image package.

Here's my df -h

# df -h
FilesystemSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
/dev/hda1 259M  207M   38M  85% /
tmpfs 253M 0  253M   0% /lib/init/rw
udev   10M   96K   10M   1% /dev
tmpfs 253M 0  253M   0% /dev/shm
/dev/hda9 9.4G  150M  8.8G   2% /home
/dev/hda8 373M   11M  343M   3% /tmp
/dev/hda5 4.6G  541M  3.9G  13% /usr
/dev/hda6 2.8G  771M  1.9G  29% /var

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Re: How do I get the japanese font back that is broken since the last update? (2)

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 03:11:43AM +0100, Dirk wrote:
> found it.. myself(!)..
>
> http://dspnet.fr.eu.org/~lonewolf/LinuxJapan/Howto_English_Japanese.html
>
> Thanks for nothing!

Hmmm... Not too fast.  I do not think your search was through enough and
I do not want people to think this is the right answer.

Short answer:
 Use aptitude to chose and to install Japanese fonts recommended:
   Tasks -> Localization -> Japanese desktop
 ttf-sazanami-gothic
 ttf-sazanami-mincho
 ttf-vlgothic

The document by Estival Guillaume found by Dirk is about Etch (i.e., old
stable) as it is written there.  It links to updated page for Sarge
(current stable) at:

http://dspnet.fr/~lonewolf/LinuxJapan/Howto_English_Japanese_woody.html

(Please do not ask me what is rationale for the choice of html file
name. It is strange.)  Either case, these are old information.

Both pages refer to "Debian Reference", YES! my work :-)

The stable version is linked from main Debian site:
 http://www.debian.org/ 
 -> Documentation:  http://www.debian.org/doc/
 -> Debian Reference:   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/

I think it is hard to miss these. 
 
If you are looking for information for unstable, you should get unstable
version of "Debian reference" package.  (debian-reference-en)

Its HTML is also published and it is a bit difficult to find.
   http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/index.en.html

I hope chapter 8 and 9 should guide you to get you started on current
unstable:
   http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch08.en.html
   http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch09.en.html

I also suggest using Debian wiki resources at http://wiki.debian.org/
  http://wiki.debian.org/JapaneseEnvironmentE
  (I use SCIM instead of uim)

> and no.. i'm still not interested in what you think about using  
> debian/unstable...

Well... FUN! FUN! FUN! and surprises.

  
http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch03.en.html#lifewitheternalupgrades

I think we at Debian is volunteer project.  Please understand our
limitation.  I am not paid by anyone for these works.

Enjoy!

Osamu

PS:  I am curious why you sounds so angry.  You will get more help by
being more patient and friendly.  


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Re: Hypervisor on an existing system?

[Jack Schneider]

On Tue, 23 Dec 2008 08:12:36 -0600
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."  wrote:

> On Monday 22 December 2008, Ross Boylan
>  wrote about 'Re: Hypervisor on an
> existing system?':
> >All I really wanted was to run MS Windows to watch TV online and
> >maybe play games; I'm thinking maybe qemu is the way to go for that.
> 
> Some games are not going to be playable under an emulator (kvm, qemu, 
> virtualbox, vmware-workstation) or under a hypervisor (xen,
> vmware-esx). Anything that uses Direct3D, e.g., needs direct hardware
> access to the video card, which isn't available under either of those
> environments right now.
I run Vbox-peul edition version 2.1.0.  This supports USB devices in
guest O/S. also has 3D enabled on my NVIDIA graphics card.. One H--- of
a lot faster than native install of MS. 

FWIW
Jack
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Re: SOLVED: Udev idling on startup

[André Neves]

I didn't find that information, Tzafrir. How do I get that?

I couldn't really read the udev log messages during startup because
they just flashed too fast. The only thing I was able to discern was
the *settle* part.

André

> On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 12:22:34AM -0200, André Neves wrote:
> > Setting udev's syslog level to DEBUG in /etc/udev/udev.conf helped me
> > see what was the bottleneck. After the 30 seconds long pause, the next
> > couple of message were about "settling", which, along with the graph
> > that bootchart drawed for me and an afternoon of reading manpages led
> > me to think that what was taking long was "udevadmin settle".
> >
> > Indeed I was right. Cheking /etc/init.d/udev, near to the end there
> > was a call to udevadmin settle. I added --timeout=1 to that line
> > (default is 180, both in seconds), knowing that it wouldn't hurt,
> > because I always hit Ctrl+C when the delay began anyway.
> >
> > And it worked! Finally I'm done. Thanks everyone who helped!
>
> "settle" waits for events to clear out. To what event did it actually
> wait?
>
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Re: Hypervisor on an existing system?

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 22 December 2008, Ross Boylan  
wrote about 'Re: Hypervisor on an existing system?':
>All I really wanted was to run MS Windows to watch TV online and maybe
>play games; I'm thinking maybe qemu is the way to go for that.

Some games are not going to be playable under an emulator (kvm, qemu, 
virtualbox, vmware-workstation) or under a hypervisor (xen, vmware-esx).  
Anything that uses Direct3D, e.g., needs direct hardware access to the 
video card, which isn't available under either of those environments right 
now.
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Re: Release Cycle

[Mark Allums]

Douglas A. Tutty wrote:

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:28:43PM +0800, Koh Choon Lin wrote:

Dear all

Anyone has an idea what is the release cycle for Debian? I understand
six months is the standard for Ubuntu.



When its ready.  Generally every couple of years or so.




Mark Allums wrote:

> Release schedule for Debian seems to be, whenever they feel like it.
> Something like twelve-eighteen months, but can stretch out.



Generally, our two answers are not really at odds.  Twenty-four months 
is the usual stretch.  Seems like.


Mark Allums




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Re: Experimental (temporarily)

[John Hasler]

M. Lewis writes:
> Given I'm running Lenny and I would like to test out the new Chrony
> (announced today) which is in Experimental, how can I do this without
> upgrading my entire system to Experimental?

Easily.  chrony_1.23-6rt1, the new version in Experimental, is just
chrony_1.23-6, the version in Lenny, with the real-time and mlockall()
features added.  It has no dependencies not in Lenny.  Add a line similar
to this to your /etc/apt/sources.list:

deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ experimental main

As root, do 'apt-get update'

As root, do 'apt-get -t experimental install chrony'

Remove the experimental line from /etc/apt/sources.list if you want.

You can accomplish the same result with Aptitude or Synaptic, of course.
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Re: Release Cycle

[Mark Allums]

Koh Choon Lin wrote:

Dear all

Anyone has an idea what is the release cycle for Debian? I understand
six months is the standard for Ubuntu.

Also, when can binary for 4.0r6 be expected to be released?





Binary for 4.0r6 should be out any day now.  Might already be out.

Release schedule for Debian seems to be, whenever they feel like it. 
Something like twelve-eighteen months, but can stretch out.


Ubuntu is pushing it, releasing every six months.  In the opinion of some.

As a rule, Debian Testing is pretty usable six months after a new Stable 
release.  So, if you are considering using Debian, go ahead.  Then 
consider switching from the major release to the testing distribution 
after a suitable interval.


Mark Allums


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Re: Release Cycle

[Douglas A. Tutty]

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 08:28:43PM +0800, Koh Choon Lin wrote:
> Dear all
> 
> Anyone has an idea what is the release cycle for Debian? I understand
> six months is the standard for Ubuntu.
> 

When its ready.  Generally every couple of years or so.


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Release Cycle

[Koh Choon Lin]

Dear all

Anyone has an idea what is the release cycle for Debian? I understand
six months is the standard for Ubuntu.

Also, when can binary for 4.0r6 be expected to be released?



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Re: phone simens ME45 and obexftp via USB

[Антон]

Sorry , it seems , mailserver droped first answer , and - buy the way - i had 
to reinstall my system , so i write again.
And it drops mails from Opera-mail , so i write from web.
 
<
It's actually a sync hell I should admit and advise you 1. backup your
phones on a windows machine as I did before experimenting and 2. join the
opensync-us...@lists.sourceforge.net or some of the *-pim lists. There you
can find more detailed information on how to get the phone syncing. by the
way you should also mention vendor/model of the phone and versions of tools
you use. Did I mention backup?!

 
Thanks , i will try it. Maybe also forum on obexftp.sourceforge.net ?
 
 

I have also tried using USB cable with VMPLayer and windows (this is the way
I backup my phone), because it is working out of the box, but with IRDA and
BT I didn't have the time and patience to play.
<
 
I have used Virtualbox , but it couldn't connect to phone. I will try Vmware.
 
<<<
Also it would be nice if we could convince the manufacturers to
provide "siemens data sute" or respectively nokia and so on for linux or at
least common interface, which they recently try to do, but only with few
product lines. Linux developer _do not_ have enough information to do the
work. At least, what I was told. Write to Siemens, Nokia & Co.
<
 
Since the piece of the linux desktops is very small against the one of the 
windows  ,
 we have also small chances to do something with the manufacturers :(
 
 

I can not help that much with USB though I'm using now IRDA as it's built in
the notebook. With USB I see my phone as a usb harddrive, so I just copy
the files. I'm not sure if it's obex. I think not.
<<
irda-utils can't find the coresponding chip  on my notebook
What about phone as usb harddrive - it's obexfs , but it works with smartphones 
, as i suppose.
It failes to mount my phone:(
 
 
<<
Are you using command line or some kind of GUI?
<<
 
r...@lin:/mnt/winXP/Documents and Settings/User/My Documents/2# obexftp -v -t 
/dev/ttyUSB0 -c Data/Java/jam/Applications -p Prozorov
Connecting...done
Sending "Data"... Sending "Java"... Sending "jam"... Sending "Applications"... 
done
Sending "Prozorov"...\failed: Prozorov
Disconnecting...failed: disconnect
r...@lin:/mnt/winXP/Documents and Settings/User/My Documents/2# obexftp -v -t 
/dev/ttyUSB0 -c Data/Java/jam/Applications -p Prozorov
Connecting...failed: connect
Still trying to connect
Connecting...failed: connect
Still trying to connect
Connecting...failed: connect
Still trying to connect
r...@lin:/mnt/winXP/Documents and Settings/User/My Documents/2#
 
 
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Re: Parallel GZIP --> speed instead of 2 CPUs running

[Ron Johnson]

On 12/23/08 00:28, Osamu Aoki wrote:
[snip]


PS:  I did not understand intent of "Total" time written in Ron Johnson's post.


I added up real+user+sys, but suddenly I realize what a stupid 
mistake that was.


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SOLVED Re: DPT2044W SCSI adaptor with disk installed but no /dev/sd* devices created

[Arthur Marsh]

Arthur Marsh wrote, on 2008-12-09 00:53:

lee wrote, on 2008-11-29 04:07:


Hm, I've always been using the kernels from kernel.org without
problems.


How do you make .deb's of kernel.org kernels under Debian 
(kernel-package, checkinstall, ???)


Arthur.




To make the DPT SCSI card work, I needed to make sure that module eata 
was loaded. So far, I have been loading eata manually using modprobe.


However, the eata module stopped working between kernel 2.6.22 and 
2.6.23. (The site http://snapshot.debian.net had archived images of the 
kernel I could try).


I then obtained the git archive of the 2.6 linux kernel by installing 
the git package and git archive of the linux kernel from 
http://www.kernel.org, then performing a git-bisect to find the commit 
that caused the eata module to stop working.


By posting a bug report to the linux-scsi mailing list, the person who 
had updated the eata module previously supplied a patch (against the 
current version of eata.c in the linux source) which fixed the problem.


The patch is at 
http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/tomo/fixes/0001-eata-fix-the-sg-conversion-regression.patch


Regards,

Arthur.


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