Debian security announcements now on twitter

[Douglas J Hunley]

Hi everyone:
I really wanted to let everyone know that I've created @Debian_Security on 
Twitter and setup a cron job to parse the DSA feed and post it to Twitter. 
It's been working for a little while now and I think it's stable enough to 
announce to the world.

Forgive me if this isn't the way to announce this, or if I'm stepping on 
someone's toes. I checked Twitter and didn't see anything existing for this, 
so I decided to scratch my own itch. :) If anyone with Debian wants it shut 
down or wants to take it and make it official, just ping me. Otherwise, I hope 
someone can find use in this.

(PS - I'm not on these lists. CC me if you want me to see your response)

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Re: [OT] free WiFi access in Berlin

[Paul Johnson]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> I wonder when we'll get that in Oaxaca, Mexico?

My guess is that will happen sometime /after/ everyone in the State of
Oaxaca has clean, running water on more than a seasonal basis.





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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Bret Busby]

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Lisi Reisz wrote:



On Tuesday 03 March 2009 15:49:02 Daniel Burrows wrote:

it looks like in Gnome, I can right-click on Applications
and pick "Edit Menus", and choose whether or not various menu items
appear.


In KDE, I just run kappfinder.  Then tick (check) the things that I want added
to the menu, and click apply.  Much quicker often than going thro' a dialogue
for every individual program.  But of course, YMMV - and almost certainly
does.  I do love the way that Linux normally lets _you_ choose what you want,
not the "owner" of the software. :-)

Lisi




As it happens, I do have kappfinder.

Whilst the kappfinder window does not include anything like a "Help 
-> About" facility, for finding the version number, searching for 
kappfinder in Synaptic, shows (from the Properties -> Common tab) that 
the version number is 4:3.5.5a.dfsg.1-6etch2.


Unfortunately, I cannot use Copy and Paste, to copy information from the 
Properties -> Common facility in Synaptic.


I tried kappfinder, but, unfortunately, it did not find the application.

Perhaps, it is due to the categorizing of the games, within the KDE 
applications menu, and it was not sure which subcategory of Games, was 
applicable?


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Re: Lenny python - ImportError: No module named _gobject

[T o n g]

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:33:10 +0100, Florian Kulzer wrote:

>> I get
>>
>>  ImportError: No module named _gobject
>>
>> error when running python applications under Lenny. I'm wondering why
>> and how I can fix it. . .
> 
> It looks like all the relevant packages are installed correctly. Maybe
> something is wrong with your module path configuration; please post the
> output of these commands:

Thanks Florian for replying, you have always been very helpful. 

I've solved it. The problem is due to the unusual stage of my system. My 
recent system-wide upgrade broke my alsa and vmware, so I had to revert 
and selectively upgrade packages. 

Upgrading all packages with python in name didn't solve the problem, so I 
upgraded all the dependent packages as well. For the archive, here is the 
full list of packages upgraded:

 dbus_1.2.1-5_i386.deb
 gconf2-common_2.22.0-1_all.deb
 gconf2_2.22.0-1_i386.deb
 gnome-mime-data_2.18.0-1_all.deb
 libart-2.0-2_2.3.20-2_i386.deb
 libavahi-glib1_0.6.23-3lenny1_i386.deb
 libbonobo2-0_2.22.0-1_i386.deb
 libbonobo2-common_2.22.0-1_all.deb
 libbonoboui2-0_2.22.0-1_i386.deb
 libbonoboui2-common_2.22.0-1_all.deb
 libdbus-glib-1-2_0.76-1_i386.deb
 libffi5_3.0.7-1_i386.deb
 libgail-common_1.22.3-1_i386.deb
 libgail18_1.22.3-1_i386.deb
 libgconf2-4_2.22.0-1_i386.deb
 libglade2-0_1%3a2.6.2-1_i386.deb
 libgnome-keyring0_2.22.3-2_i386.deb
 libgnome2-0_2.20.1.1-1_i386.deb
 libgnome2-common_2.20.1.1-1_all.deb
 libgnomecanvas2-0_2.20.1.1-1_i386.deb
 libgnomecanvas2-common_2.20.1.1-1_all.deb
 libgnomeui-0_2.20.1.1-2_i386.deb
 libgnomeui-common_2.20.1.1-2_all.deb
 libgnomevfs2-0_1%3a2.22.0-5_i386.deb
 libgnomevfs2-common_1%3a2.22.0-5_all.deb
 libhal-storage1_0.5.11-8_i386.deb
 libidl0_0.8.10-0.1_i386.deb
 liborbit2_1%3a2.14.13-0.1_i386.deb

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Re: [SOLVED]Segmentation fault when stating aptitude

[Jacques Dery]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:27:02AM +, Bob Cox wrote:

> > de...@gontran:/var/cache/apt$ sudo aptitude update
> > Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
> > Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
> > Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> > Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages
> > Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
> > Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org stable Release.gpg [386B]
> > Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable Release
> > Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages/DiffIndex
> > Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> > Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
> > Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages
> > Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages
> > Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages
> 
> I notice that you are getting updates and security updates for etch but
> also updates for stable (lenny) with no corresponding security updates.
> 
> Are you intentionally mixing etch and lenny using pinning or a
> "APT::Default-Release" setting?  Just a thought.

Hi list,

Problem solved! 

Explanation: My intentions were not to mix Lenny and Etch together. 
I created sources.list a long time ago and never paid attention to its
content since it worked. --> It never caused problem when Etch was stable. 
I guess I was lucky. My luck ran out when Lenny became stable (and Etch 
became old stable).

So I cleaned up sources.list. It solved the problem.

Thank you Bob
Jacques


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Debian and Linux related training video

[Steven Demetrius]

FYI

The following site as Debian and Linux training video materials on sale 
at reasonable prices.


http://www.pctech101.com/
http://www.pctech101.com/linux-training/distribution-training/debian-training
http://www.pctech101.com/linux-training/distribution-training/samba-training

Though their Debian GNU/Linux video training CDs are for version 3.1. I 
still found it very helpful. For newbies it helps to give a full 
understanding of how Debian works and how to administer it. It even 
covers IP Tables. It includes real examples that you can try. They ship 
worldwide.


There is also a DVD for samba training.

You will need flash in order to view the videos. Please note that on 
Linux systems (at least in my case Debian 4 and 5) it only seems to work 
with Adobe Flash Player plugin. I could not get it to work with the 
"free" Flash Player plugins.


You can get additional multimedia packages for Debian by adding the 
following line to you apt-get sources.list


 deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org lenny main (for lenny/stable)
 deb http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze main (for squeeze/testing)

Please read the FAQ on the site before using the repository.
 http://debian-multimedia.org/faq.php

Please note that I am not affiliated with PCTech101 in anyway.

I found the material offered to be very helpful when I started using 
Debian and even now. I do know how frustrating it can be when trying to 
understand Debian and Linux as a newbie and reading HOWTOs can be very 
discouraging as they are more for reference than for learning. Try 
reading the HOWTOs and online instructions for SAMBA or SWAT.


Note: If you decide to flame me for posting this email please re-read 
the email and give it some thought first.


Thank you
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Re: On VHS capture hardware/software that works with Debian

[Rogério Brito]

Dear Tim,

On Mar 02 2009, Tim Beauregard wrote:
> Rogério Brito wrote:
> > Therefore, I would like to know the experiences of people from the
> > Debian community regarding both software and hardware for this very
> > task. I would like to record what I have in analog form with the highest
> > quality possible (and, latter, I can think of converting the final
> > result to a DVD, iPod, MPEG-4 ASP file etc).
> 
> I went through this about a year ago, first attempt was with an ATI
> Radeon 9200 PCI card, I had problems with finding suitable cables and
> then with macrovision on commercial films.

Well, in my case, I would be using an ATI Rage 128 Fury card, which
predates the Radeon's, as far as I know.

The macrovision thing wouldn't be a problem, as I'm mostly concerned
with home-made recordings (like family encounters and such things) but
it is nice to know about that limitation. As I posted in an earlier
message, I'm not that familiar with the hardware side of things.

> I then bought a Hauppauge WinTV PVR 150, it does hardware encoding
> which means nil CPU usage.  This proved faultless for all my
> conversions.

Nice to know. Encoding in which format, BTW? MPEG-2?

> v4l2-ctl is used to set all the parameters used by the card; the
> capture command is as easy as
> 
> $ cat /dev/video0 > raw.mpg

That's perfect! Just what the doctor prescribed.

> I used ffmpeg to encode to DVD format, with the commands
> 
> $ ffmpeg -i raw.mpg -ss 00:00:02.9 -t 00:49:49.1 -ildct -ilme -target
> dvd -b 5172k -cropbottom 16 -pass 1 pass1.mpg
> $ ffmpeg -i raw.mpg -ss 00:00:02.9 -t 00:49:49.1 -ildct -ilme -target
> dvd -b 5172k -cropbottom 16 -pass 2 pass2.mpg

Very nice. I will keep those 2 pass lines here for further reference.

I may, perhaps, take the input directly from /dev/video0 (if I ever
manage to get things right), depending on my processing power (even
though I'm using a Pentium D 805 like I mentioned in the earlier
message, I will probably use a Duron 1GHz for this task).

> Bitrate was calculated to produce a file sized for a single layer DVD
> (alter this depending on the length of your mpegs).

No problems.

> I used dvdauthor to produce basic DVDs, and
> http://mightylegends.zapto.org/dvd/dvdauthor_howto.php
> has an excellent walk-thru on more elaborate DVD menus.

Thanks. Authoring the DVD menus was/is something that i used to do by
hand, and not with many tools that are available today. They surely
help.


Thank you very much for all the comments, Rogério.

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Re: On VHS capture hardware/software that works with Debian

[Rogério Brito]

Hi, Rainer.

On Mar 02 2009, Rainer Kluge wrote:
> Rogério Brito schrieb:
> > 
> > I have a friend of mine that has an old ATI Rage 128 card (if I am not
> > mistaken) with line in. Would it be possible to make it work under
> > Linux?
> 
> Should work without problems, I had this card working in the past.

I just remembered what the card seems to be (if I'm not mistaken, it is
an ATI Rage 128 Fury).

I read about some old gatos things, but it seems that some of the
support for those things (parts of the ati.2 driver) was incorporated
into upstream (X.org mainline).

> > If I happen to have to purchase something, what would be the recommended
> > hardware (with Free Software support)?
> 
> I used some old TV cards from Pinnacle (PC TVSAT) and Terratec
> (TValue), which have a video-in port which is supported by the v4l2
> drivers. So you should have a look at http://linuxtv.org/v4lwiki for
> supported hardware.

That is quite nice to know. I didn't know about that already.  I am
always voting with my pocket, since I only get things that are "Free
Hardware", and I'm not that experienced with video cards.

> Then you have the choice to capture video in raw format (yuv4mpeg) and
> encode it offline to whatever you want. Or to encode it on the fly to
> MPEG4 while capturing.

Nice. I think that I will package a new trunk version of mplayer with
the multithreaded support (the experimental branch).

I already packaged newer things than Christian Marillat's packages (and
am willing to keep up with some packages that were dropped from sid,
like grip).

> There is a bunch of tools for capturing from /dev/video: transcode,
> mencoder, xdtv, xawtv

I've been using mencoder for the task, as I'm not familiar with this
video 4 linux {1,2} thing. Only now is that I have the (strong)
motivation to keep me updated.

> On my P4 / 2.8GHz / Lenny, I got best results with xdtv, encoding
> directly in high quality mode to MPEG4/AVI.

I don't seem to have such a powerful machine (it's a Pentium D 805, with
2.6GHz in each core, and I'm tracking sid).

> When capturing in raw format, I loose lots of frames, probably due to
> insufficient processor performance or slow hard disk access.

Yes, I know, too much bandwidth.

> If you want to do some post-processing on the video (de-noising), have
> a look at transcode's hqdn3d filter.

Yes, the material, coming from VHS, will have a *lot* of noise. For
those purposes, I'm used to using two solutions:

* yuvdenoise, from mjpegtools;
* hqdn3d, with the "hqdn3d=7:6:9" option to mencoder.

The part where I am a complete layman is regarding hardware and the v4l{,2}
that you just pointed me to.

> If you prefer a GUI approach, have a look at avidemux, which provides
> the same filters as transcode, and allows also video editing.

Even though I prefer the command line approach (I'm an old Unix user), I
may, on occasion, use some GUI, but that is only occasionally.

> My experience shows that you can do everything in video capturing and
> editing with Linux, but it takes a lot of time to find out the best
> solution for your specific case.

Thank you very much for that part. I didn't know anything about the
hardware support. I'm only familiar with videos that are already
"grabbed".

> If you need a quick solution, maybe you better buy one of those
> Pinnacle USB boxes and do the job under windows (gr..)

I will see if I can get the ATI card, experiment a little and post back
the results. Going to Windows is a very last resort option, as I'm not
familiar with the environment.


Thank you very much, Rogério.

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Re: Turn off monitor after inactivity

[Memnon Anon]

Hi!

"Daniel Aleksandersen"  writes:

> I forgot to mention, I don’t have a graphical user interface. No xorg either.

Sorry, I am not sure if this is what you are searching for, but
I found this:

,---[ /etc/console-tools/config ]
#   screen saver/DPMS settings: all VCs 
# These settings are commented by default to avoid the chance of damage to
# very old monitors that don't support DPMS signalling.
[...]
BLANK_TIME=5
BLANK_DPMS=off
# Powerdown time.  The console will go to DPMS Off mode POWERDOWN_TIME
# minutes _after_ blanking.  (POWERDOWN_TIME + BLANK_TIME after the last input)
POWERDOWN_TIME=1
`

I have not idea if this uses setterm of something else to 
do what it does. 

Just have a look and try different settings ;)

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Re: Problem with default resolution starting Debian Lenny

[Marcos Fernandez]

El vie, 27-02-2009 a las 13:51 -0800, Kelly Clowers escribió:
> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 10:43, Marcos Fernandez  wrote:
> > It doesn't works.
> >
> > Any idea?
> >
> > Thank you very much, I appreciate your help.
> 
> Maybe the old style will work?
> 
> Section "Screen"
>Identifier   "Default Screen"
>Monitor "Configured Monitor"
>Device  "Configured Video Device"
>DefaultColorDepth 24
>Subsection "Display"
>   Depth 24
>   Modes  "1280x1024"
>EndSubsection
> EndSection
> 
> 
> Or xrandr might work. If you start up with the monitor switched
> to the other computer, can you then change the resolution with
> this command?
> 
> xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024
> 
> You might need to change the "VGA" part to something else.
> 
> xrandr -q will give you some info, the second line should have
> something like: "VGA connected" or "LVDS connected" or
> similar.  Change the --output option to that identifier.
> 
> If the xrandr mode command works to change your resolution,
> you could put it in a startup script like ~/.xsession
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> Kelly Clowers
> 
> 

Sorry, i haven't read the thread until right now.

xrandr --output VGA --mode 1280x1024: it changes the resolution to
1280x, but for some reason the size of the words is bigger, and i need
to change "appearance" and set the sizes smaller, but it "works", more
or less.

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Re: Error: /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined symbol: FT_Select_Size

[Florian Kulzer]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 15:37:56 -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>> On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 20:08:06 -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:
>>>
>>> I have two programs that are failing at startup with this message;
>>>
 /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined symbol: FT_Select_Size

[...]

>>  dpkg -l libfreetype6 | tail -n-1
>> ii  libfreetype6 2.3.7-2 FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files

So far, so good...

>> ldd /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
>>  linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb7fb2000)
>>  libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb7f03000)

Here is your problem: You have a non-Debian (and most likely outdated)
version of libfreetype.so.6 in /usr/local/lib/. Get rid of it and run
"ldconfig" as root.

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incomplete kernel install, etch-backports

[Mark Copper]

Hi,

I'm trying to update an older system to Etch.  I'm following Release
Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 4.0.  For hardware reasons, I ran the command

aptitude -t etch-backports install linux-image-2.6-686

Output for the command

aptitude show linux-image-2.6-686

includes

State: installed

However, even after running lilo, /vmlinuz is still symlinked to the old
kernel.

Is this related to the message I received during the installation, that
the boot loader needed to be configured to use an initrd?  And if so,
where do I find out how to do this?

Thank you.

Mark


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Re: Lowest ram system with X. Presario 5166.

[Curt Howland]

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On Tuesday 03 March 2009, Nuno Magalhães  was 
heard to say:
> From what i've been able to find, this pc will only handle a max of
> 384MB of ram[1] (3*128). From the Debian manual, a minimal install
> for X requires 512MB. From my experience i did have a pc with 196MB
> (with windowmaker) and it did run, rather slugishly. The least i'll
> do will be update that ram and leave it with Win2k, but it'd be
> cool to introduce gnu/linux.

Last summer I finally retired a laptop with a max of 128MB of RAM, 4MB 
of which was used for video.

X ran just fine. Debian Sid, 2.6.24(approx) kernel, whatever was up to 
date at the time.

Being 350MHz, I didn't expect it to do video, and I didn't try to run 
a full KDE desktop, but I did run Kmail, Konqueror, Firefox, 
OpenOffice and everything else up to date that I wanted, and again it 
ran just fine.

Try it, I don't think you'll be disappointed.

Curt-


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Can't compile lirc modules

[Yvan]

Debian Lenny
Lirc 0.8.3-3
Kernel 2.6.26-1-686

I can not compile lirc modules. Here is what I did:

# dpkg-reconfigure lirc-modules-source
# m-a prepare
# m-a a-i lirc

But:


make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/lirc'
sed -e "s!\$KVERS!2.6.26-1-686!g;
s!\$KSRC!/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build!; s!\$KARCH!i386!;
s!\$KEMAIL!!; s!\$KMAINT!!; s!\$KDREV!2.6.26-13!; s!\$DEBDATE!Tue, 03
Mar 2009 06:58:22 +0100!" debian/control.in > debian/control dh_testdir
# Add here commands to configure the package. touch configure-stamp
dh_testdir # Add here commands to compile the package.
/usr/bin/make debconf
make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/lirc'
mkdir modules
/usr/bin/make -C drivers SUBDIRS="lirc_dev"
make[3]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers'
Making all in lirc_dev
make[4]: Entering directory `/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev'
mv Makefile Makefile.automake
cp ../Makefile.kernel Makefile
/usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build
SUBDIRS=/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev modules \
KBUILD_VERBOSE=1 make[5]: Entering directory
`/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686' test -e include/linux/autoconf.h
-a -e include/config/auto.conf || ( \
echo;   \
echo "  ERROR: Kernel configuration is invalid.";   \ echo
" include/linux/autoconf.h or include/config/auto.conf are
missing.";  \ echo " Run 'make oldconfig && make prepare'
on kernel src to fix it.";  \
echo;
\ /bin/false) mkdir
-p /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/.tmp_versions ; rm
-f /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/.tmp_versions/* /usr/bin/make
-f scripts/Makefile.build obj=/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev
gcc-4.1 -Wp,-MD,/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/.lirc_dev.o.d
-nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.1.3/include
-D__KERNEL__ -Iinclude  -include include/linux/autoconf.h -Wall -Wundef
-Wstrict-prototypes -Wno-trigraphs -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-common
-Werror-implicit-function-declaration -Os   -fno-stack-protector -m32
-msoft-float -mregparm=3 -freg-struct-return
-mpreferred-stack-boundary=2  -march=i686 -ffreestanding
-DCONFIG_AS_CFI=1 -DCONFIG_AS_CFI_SIGNAL_FRAME=1 -pipe
-Wno-sign-compare -fno-asynchronous-unwind-tables -mno-sse -mno-mmx
-mno-sse2 -mno-3dnow -Iinclude/asm-x86/mach-default
-fomit-frame-pointer -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wno-pointer-sign
-DIRCTL_DEV_MAJOR=61 -DEXPORT_SYMTAB -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I../..
-I/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/../..
-I/lib/modules/2.6.26-1-686/build/include/  -DMODULE
-D"KBUILD_STR(s)=#s" -D"KBUILD_BASENAME=KBUILD_STR(lirc_dev)"
-D"KBUILD_MODNAME=KBUILD_STR(lirc_dev)" -c
-o /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/.tmp_lirc_dev.o 
/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c 
/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:35:26:
error: linux/config.h: No such file or
directory /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c: In
function
‘cleanup’: /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:136:
error: implicit declaration of function
‘class_device_destroy’ /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:
In function
‘lirc_register_plugin’: /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:250:
error: implicit declaration of function
‘DECLARE_MUTEX_LOCKED’ /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:250:
error: ‘tn’ undeclared (first use in this
function) /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:250: error:
(Each undeclared identifier is reported only
once /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:250: error: for
each function it appears
in.) /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:387: error:
implicit declaration of function
‘class_device_create’ /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:
In function
‘lirc_unregister_plugin’: /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:440:
error: ‘tn’ undeclared (first use in this
function) /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:441: error:
‘tn2’ undeclared (first use in this
function) /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c: In
function
‘lirc_dev_init’: /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:873:
error: void value not ignored as it ought to
be /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c: In function
‘cleanup_module’: /usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.c:900:
error: void value not ignored as it ought to be make[6]: ***
[/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev/lirc_dev.o] Error 1 make[5]:
*** [_module_/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev] Error 2 make[5]:
Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686' make[4]: ***
[lirc_dev.o] Error 2 make[4]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers/lirc_dev' make[3]: *** [all-recursive]
Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/lirc/drivers'
make[2]: *** [dev] Error 2 make[2]: Leaving directory
`/usr/src/modules/lirc' make[1]: *** [build-stamp] Error 2 make[1]:
Leaving directory `/usr/src/modules/lirc' make: *** [kd

Lotus Symphony messed up the icons of ODF files. How to restore?

[Sander Marechal]

Hi all,

Hi. I have a problem with the icons for ODF files (using Lenny, Gnome).
I had Lotus Symphony installed and removed it again promptly (what a
terrible app!). When it was installed, it changed the icons of ODF files
to match it's own icons. After removing Symphony again the old icons
that Debian uses out of the box were not restored. I now have these
terrible (XPM?) icons instead: http://www.jejik.com/sander/temp/odf-icon.png

Does anyone know how to restore the original icons? How does
Gnome/Debian map icons anyway? The filetype itself does seem to work.
When I click on an ODF file OpenOffice.org opens as it should.

The Lotus Symphony package I installed was the Ubuntu 8.04 package from
the IBM website. It installed and ran perfectly on Debian Lenny. I just
don't like it at all so I removed it again.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Error: /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined symbol: FT_Select_Size

[Dennis Wicks]

Florian Kulzer wrote the following on 02/28/2009 06:40 AM:

On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 20:08:06 -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote:

Greetings;

I have two programs that are failing at startup with this message;


/usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1: undefined symbol: FT_Select_Size

Does any one know what the problem is?


FT_Select_Size should be defined in libfreetype.so.6 from the
libfreetype6 package.  You either have an outdated version of this
package, or your libfontconfig.so.1 links against the wrong
libfreetype.so.6 (e.g. a non-Debian version in /usr/local/lib/).

Please post the output of these two commands:

dpkg -l libfreetype6 | tail -n-1

ldd /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1



OK, here are the results


 dpkg -l libfreetype6 | tail -n-1
ii  libfreetype6 2.3.7-2 FreeType 2 font engine, shared library files



ldd /usr/lib/libfontconfig.so.1
linux-gate.so.1 =>  (0xb7fb2000)
libfreetype.so.6 => /usr/local/lib/libfreetype.so.6 (0xb7f03000)
libz.so.1 => /usr/lib/libz.so.1 (0xb7eee000)
libexpat.so.1 => /usr/lib/libexpat.so.1 (0xb7ec7000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (0xb7d6c000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0 (0xb7d53000)
/lib/ld-linux.so.2 (0xb7fb3000)






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Re: Turn off monitor after inactivity

[Daniel Aleksandersen]

Sendt: Tue, 03 Mar 2009 21:26:38 +0100
Fra: Jörg-Volker Peetz
> Maybe, 'setterm' from the util-linx package does what you want.
> I haven't tried it myself.

This should work:
setterm -blank 1
setterm -powersave powerdown
setterm -powerdown 2
setterm -store

The screen does blank after 1 minute, but it does not power down after two (nor
three) minutes. Could be because of kernel bug 12653.
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=12653

What else could be wrong? Other suggestions?
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file conversion from .phph to plain text

[I Rattan]

Is there a utility that perform this conversion?

-ishwar


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Re: Lenny python - ImportError: No module named _gobject

[Florian Kulzer]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 22:59:12 +, T o n g wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I get
>
>  ImportError: No module named _gobject
>
> error when running python applications under Lenny. I'm wondering why and
> how I can fix it:
>
>   $ python
>   Python 2.5.2 (r252:60911, Jan  4 2009, 17:40:26)
>   [GCC 4.3.2] on linux2
>   Type "help", "copyright", "credits" or "license" for more information.
>   >>> import gtk
>   Traceback (most recent call last):
> File "", line 1, in 
> File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gtk/__init__.py",
> line 38, in 
>   import gobject as _gobject
> File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gobject/__init__.py",
> line 30, in 
>   from gobject.constants import *
> File "/var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gobject/
> constants.py", line 22, in 
>   from _gobject import type_from_name
>   ImportError: No module named _gobject
>   >>>

[...]

> I think it might be because, (somehow) I have two python packages
> installed in my system: python & python2.5. Neither seems to be
> replaceable.

That is normal; "python" is a dependency package whose purpose it is to
pull in the default python version, i.e. version 2.5 for Lenny.

> Here is a list of all python related package in my box:

[ list edited ]

>   ii  python 2.5.2-3
>   ii  python-gobject 2.14.2-1
>   ii  python-gtk22.12.1-6
>   ii  python-minimal 2.5.2-3
>   ii  python-support 0.8.4
>   ii  python2.5  2.5.2-15
>   ii  python2.5-mini 2.5.2-15

It looks like all the relevant packages are installed correctly. Maybe
something is wrong with your module path configuration; please post the
output of these commands:

ls -l /var/lib/python-support/python2.5/gtk-2.0/gobject/

which python python2.5

python -c "import sys; print sys.path"

debsums -e python2.5-minimal

(The "debsums" package is necessary for the last command.)

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Re: Turn off monitor after inactivity

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

Maybe, 'setterm' from the util-linx package does what you want.
I haven't tried it myself.
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Re: Scanner problems

[Frank]

On Tue, 2009-03-03 at 20:12 +0100, Sjoerd Hiemstra wrote:
> Op Sun, 01 Mar 18:35:46 -0500 Frank wrote:
> > Just installed Debian squeeze...and am looking for help. Seems xsane
> > will only run as root...made myself a member of scanner group, but
> > still have to run gksudo to get it to find the scanner.
> > 
> > Advice ??
> 
> I'd suggest to follow the steps for scanner installation described in
> http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_install_a_scanner_in_Debian_GNU-Linux_using_Sane
> so you may locate the problem.
> 
> 

  After a couple of updates including SANE and sane-utils, the scanner
now works properly again.

Prior to this:

fr...@squeeze:~$ sane-find-scanner

  # sane-find-scanner will now attempt to detect your scanner. If the
  # result is different from what you expected, first make sure your
  # scanner is powered up and properly connected to your computer.

  # No SCSI scanners found. If you expected something different, make
sure that
  # you have loaded a kernel SCSI driver for your SCSI adapter.
  # Also you need support for SCSI Generic (sg) in your operating
system.
  # If using Linux, try "modprobe sg".

found USB scanner (vendor=0x04a9 [Canon], product=0x220d [CanoScan],
chip=LM9832/3) at libusb:002:002

  # Your USB scanner was (probably) detected. It may or may not be
supported by
  # SANE. Try scanimage -L and read the backend's manpage.

  # Not checking for parallel port scanners.

  # Most Scanners connected to the parallel port or other proprietary
ports
  # can't be detected by this program.

  # You may want to run this program as root to find all devices. Once
you
  # found the scanner devices, be sure to adjust access permissions as
  # necessary.

fr...@squeeze:~$ scanimage -L
device `plustek:libusb:002:002' is a Canon CanoScan N670U/N676U/LiDE20
flatbed scanner
scanimage: browser.c:703: avahi_service_browser_free: Assertion `*_head
== _item' failed.
Aborted
^^^


Cheers


  


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Re: How to turn sound on by default?

[Daniel Lannstrom]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:54:03PM +0100, Robert Latest wrote:
> Hello there,
> 
> when I want to use sound on my computer, I always have to start the
> (GUI app) "gnome-alsamixer" and un-mute it. Even on the Gnome desktop
> it's not enough to click off the little red mute symbol next to the
> loudspeaker in the upper right corner, no, I also have to go
> explicitly through alsamixer.
> 
> Is there a command-line tool that I could put into an /etc/rc.local
> script that turns on the sound automatically?
> 
> Thanks,
> robert
> 
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You should be able to use alsactl(1) for this task. However, on the
machine I have used the default scripts save the sound state on shutdown
and restore it on startup.


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Re: IceW moves from wokrspace to workspace.

[Chris]

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009 13:15:13 -0600
Chris  wrote:

> Greetings,
> 
> Here's my dilemma:
> I keep claws in workspace 5. I also keep IceW in workspace 4.
> If there is a link I wish to click on in mail (in workspace  5), IceW
> moves from workspace 4 into workspace 5.
> 
> I know this does not happen under Fedora nor Ubuntu. How can I prevent
> this from happening under Debian 5?
> 
> TIA
> 

For those that asked, Gnome.

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How to turn sound on by default?

[Robert Latest]

Hello there,

when I want to use sound on my computer, I always have to start the
(GUI app) "gnome-alsamixer" and un-mute it. Even on the Gnome desktop
it's not enough to click off the little red mute symbol next to the
loudspeaker in the upper right corner, no, I also have to go
explicitly through alsamixer.

Is there a command-line tool that I could put into an /etc/rc.local
script that turns on the sound automatically?

Thanks,
robert


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Bandwidthd broken?

[Curtis Vaughan]

After upgrading to 5.0 yesterday, I can't seem to get bandwidthd 
working again. Any ideas?



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Debian package configure options

[TR]

Simple question - how do I find out what configure options have 
been used in creating a Debian package.


I want to use the Debian squid3 package but need to know what 
configure options were used.


I require the following:-

./configure --enable-auth=”basic” 
-enable-basic-auth-helpers="LDAP" -- enable-ssl 
--enable-auth-on-accel


If the package has not been configured with these options can I 
recompile it.


Thanks,

TR


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Re: Turn off monitor after inactivity

[Daniel Aleksandersen]

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Sendt: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 20:29:47 +0100
Fra: Daniel Lannstrom 
Til: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Emne: Re: Turn off monitor after inactivity

> On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:24:44PM +0100, Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:
> > Hi list
> > 
> > My notebook’s screen turns blank when left inactive for a couple of 
> > minutes. I
> > want it to turn off instead, and turn back on when I start typing. How do I 
> > achieve this?
> > 
> > I have installed a base system and the laptop packages.
> > 
> > Hoping for answers,
> 
> I think this is possible to configure with the xset(1) tool. You might
> want to add a line to your .xinitrc file to make it set this up when you
> start Xorg.

I forgot to mention, I don’t have a graphical user interface. No xorg either.

I found a lot of instructions on how to set this up in xorg, but nothing for … 
what-
ever I have instead.
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Re: Lowest ram system with X. Presario 5166.

[Nuno Magalhães]

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 7:00 PM, Daniel Lannstrom  wrote:
> [...] Also,
> don't expect that firefox will be very fast. You might want to install
> another browser. I have heard that Opera has a smaller memory footprint
> (don't knwo if that's true with current versions though).

Yeah after sending i started thinking about browsers. One of the
reasons i started using Opera a few years ago was Firefox being heavy
(plus i was already using opera on win and firefox didn't handle flash
well then). From then on i got a new machine and moved on to Firefox
but the question still remains, thanks. Midori does 100 on acid3 but
crashes a lot, kazehakase might not be fully-featured... we'll see.

Nuno Magalhães
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Re: Turn off monitor after inactivity

[Daniel Lannstrom]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 08:24:44PM +0100, Daniel Aleksandersen wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> My notebook’s screen turns blank when left inactive for a couple of minutes. I
> want it to turn off instead, and turn back on when I start typing. How do I 
> achieve this?
> 
> I have installed a base system and the laptop packages.
> 
> Hoping for answers,
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I think this is possible to configure with the xset(1) tool. You might
want to add a line to your .xinitrc file to make it set this up when you
start Xorg.


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Turn off monitor after inactivity

[Daniel Aleksandersen]

Hi list

My notebook’s screen turns blank when left inactive for a couple of minutes. I
want it to turn off instead, and turn back on when I start typing. How do I 
achieve this?

I have installed a base system and the laptop packages.

Hoping for answers,
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IceW moves from wokrspace to workspace.

[Chris]

Greetings,

Here's my dilemma:
I keep claws in workspace 5. I also keep IceW in workspace 4.
If there is a link I wish to click on in mail (in workspace  5), IceW
moves from workspace 4 into workspace 5.

I know this does not happen under Fedora nor Ubuntu. How can I prevent
this from happening under Debian 5?

TIA

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Re: Scanner problems

[Sjoerd Hiemstra]

Op Sun, 01 Mar 18:35:46 -0500 Frank wrote:
> Just installed Debian squeeze...and am looking for help. Seems xsane
> will only run as root...made myself a member of scanner group, but
> still have to run gksudo to get it to find the scanner.
> 
> Advice ??

I'd suggest to follow the steps for scanner installation described in
http://newbiedoc.berlios.de/wiki/How_to_install_a_scanner_in_Debian_GNU-Linux_using_Sane
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Re: how to ask for aptitude "improvement" wrt unsigned package

[Johannes Wiedersich]

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Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Monday 02 March 2009 12:05:20 marca...@gmail.com wrote:
>> I am using a repository that doesn't sign its package.  I know and
>> trust it.
> 
> That's not exactly what the signatures are about.  They are mainly about 
> preventing MitM attacks, whether from mirror administrators or someone 
> attacking your internet connection directly.

Or earthly things like failing disks or failing network connections.
It's always good to _verify_ that the software arrives as intended by
the packager...

Cheers,
Johannes

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Re: Lowest ram system with X. Presario 5166.

[Daniel Lannstrom]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 06:51:16PM +, Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> gnome-basic will do? Other suggestions? Other window managers? 

Don't use gnome. The current versions will grind the computer to a halt.
Instead get fluxbox or some other lightweight window manager. Also,
don't expect that firefox will be very fast. You might want to install
another browser. I have heard that Opera has a smaller memory footprint
(don't knwo if that's true with current versions though). 


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Lowest ram system with X. Presario 5166.

[Nuno Magalhães]

Hi,

Sorry for the contradicting subject line. I have a Compaq Presario
5166 that has 128RAM and is running Win2K. Not sluggish actually, but
it doesn't get used a lot either. I might replace it with Sid.

>From what i've been able to find, this pc will only handle a max of
384MB of ram[1] (3*128). From the Debian manual, a minimal install for
X requires 512MB. From my experience i did have a pc with 196MB (with
windowmaker) and it did run, rather slugishly. The least i'll do will
be update that ram and leave it with Win2k, but it'd be cool to
introduce gnu/linux.

The end user will want the usuals: mail, browser, office apps, copying
camera pics through usb, messenger... Now, the most user-friendly
interfaces are gnome and kde, but they are also the more ram-friendly,
i.e. they freaking love it. Also disk space is a bit of a requirement,
last time i installed gnome it ate 1GB, i can get as most as 8GB
installed (i'm on a budget - the least the better - and am using spare
parts). I could set up a personalized fluxbox or something (since this
pc is supposed to be temporary) but that would mean being called
whenever they'd want something new on the menu. Or maybe xfce or
whatever that has a small footprint and redmond look.

How can i isntall only the basics and fundamentals of gnome?
gnome-basic will do? Other suggestions? Other window managers? The end
user never used linux, is not technical, but isn't afraid of mice
either; so if things are intuitive or mimic win, it'll be ok.

Also there's an issue about wireless, the current pc they use (a very
freaking slow laptop) uses wireless through usb and this compaq
probably only has usb1. How's debian on wireless?

Constructive criticism anyone?
TIA

[1] also found similar data in other sites
http://shop.crucial.com/1/4/10397-hp-compaq-presario-5166-desktop-pc-memory-module.html

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Re: motorola a1200 couldn't be mounted on Debian

[Eduardo M KALINOWSKI]

Rodrigo Hashimoto escreveu:
> Hi,
>
> I just compiled the kernel 2.6.28.7 and now I can mount the mobile
> phone, but now even when I dismount it the mobile phone keeps in USB
> MODE, then I'm forced to turn it off to unplug the usb cable.

Try 'eject ' after 'umount '. (Or you can just
use eject, it unmounts the device first.) This sends some kind of signal
to the device that the computer is done using it, at least on my Nokia N95.

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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Lisi Reisz]

On Tuesday 03 March 2009 15:49:02 Daniel Burrows wrote:
> it looks like in Gnome, I can right-click on Applications
> and pick "Edit Menus", and choose whether or not various menu items
> appear.

In KDE, I just run kappfinder.  Then tick (check) the things that I want added 
to the menu, and click apply.  Much quicker often than going thro' a dialogue 
for every individual program.  But of course, YMMV - and almost certainly 
does.  I do love the way that Linux normally lets _you_ choose what you want, 
not the "owner" of the software. :-)

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Re: motorola a1200 couldn't be mounted on Debian

[Rodrigo Hashimoto]

Hi,

I just compiled the kernel 2.6.28.7 and now I can mount the mobile
phone, but now even when I dismount it the mobile phone keeps in USB
MODE, then I'm forced to turn it off to unplug the usb cable.

Any idea ?

On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 12:31 +, Virgo Pärna wrote:

> On Sun, 01 Mar 2009 16:24:57 -0300, Rodrigo Hashimoto  
> wrote:
> >
> > It was recognized as "sdd1" but it looks like there was an error "Medium
> > Error [current]".
> >
> > Any suggestion please ?
> >
> 
> Check http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=501935 and the
> udev configuration change in 
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=161117
> If it does help, then you should add your comment too. 
> That issue is basically about broken Nokia, Motorola, Nikon and Pentax
> devices, that report invalid sector count (+1 sectors).
> 
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> 
> 

Re: Debian needs ENTER to continue boot process

[thveillon.debian]

Rodrigo Hashimoto wrote :
> Just to complement,
> 
> I must press the ENTER key for many times, or the POWER KEY only once,
> it worked as well but I pressed it only once and the boot continue fine.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 20:26 -0300, Rodrigo Hashimoto wrote:
>> Hey there,
>>
>> Something very weird is happening in my OS. I just compiled the kernel
>> 2.6.28.7 and to boot my machine I need to press ENTER many times
>> during the boot process. I've never seen anything similar to this issue.
>>
>> It's like to run the command:
>>
>> # cat /var/log/messages|less
>>
>> Then you can press ENTER to see the next line, right ? So, that's it
>> what is happening during the boot process.
>>
>> Does anyone have any idea ??
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>

Hi,

I tried compiling this kernel (2.6.28.7) from kernel.org and no problem
here. Maybe something in your config, it looks like an "interactive boot
mode" or a debug option to me.

Tom


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Daniel Burrows]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 11:41:06PM +0900, Bret Busby  was heard 
to say:
>> It would seem logical, given one point of view, but as I mentioned
>> previously, that's not the behaviour that I desire from a package manager
>> any more than I want a link to the executable binary automagically added
>> to the desktop. There are more than 1000 Debian developers, worldwide,
>> and they vote as to how things are handled by default, perhaps there is a
>> logical plan.
>>
>>
>
> And, as I had said, it had not occurred to me, that packages would have  
> different developers/maintainers, for each distribution.
>
> Thus, apparently, the differences in installation, between different  
> distributions.
>
> I assume that some applications, like GRAMPS, GnuCash, and PotgreSQL (to  
> give a variety of different types of applications), have the same  
> developers/maintainers, for all distributions, with possibly different  
> developers working on different version numbers of the applications?

  In general, each software project has people who work just on the
software project, and different people make the packages for different
distributions.  Occasionally, one individual makes packages for several
distributions (e.g., some Ubuntu employees are also Debian developers
and work on the same packages in both cases), but even then the
packaging might be different to conform to the conventions of the
different distributions.

  This is actually a very efficient way of doing things, because
writing software and creating packages to distribute it are fairly
dissimilar domains of expertise, and it's useful to separate out the
roles.  Even in software I write and package myself, I'm usually
working on one or the other at any given moment.


  In this particular case: the package list for flightgear includes
/usr/share/applications/flightgear.desktop, which makes me think that
it *should* get a menu entry.  Is that right?  Does that file exist on
your system?  What are its contents?

> I think that that would make a good package development standard - for  
> packages that are installed on a system, that could be run from a menu,  
> to, at the completion of installation, generate a dialogue box that  
> incorporates the option to have the application automatically added to  
> the Applications menu hierarchy; something like (in this case) "The  
> Flight Gear package installation has completed. Do you want it  
> automatically added to the Applications menu hierarchy? Enter "y" for  
> yes > ".

  That sounds good, until you install a few dozen programs at once
*shudder*.  Better to have the menu items always installed, and then
have some of them disabled by default, with an easy way to re-enable
them.  e.g., it looks like in Gnome, I can right-click on Applications
and pick "Edit Menus", and choose whether or not various menu items
appear.

  Daniel


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Thorny]

> Yes; each workstation installation that we have, whilst it has more than
> one user account, is used by only one person at a time, and is primarily a
> single-user system (but, I really don't like the pseudo thingy that Ubuntu
> uses, rather than having a root account. I much prefer having a root
> account, for system maintenance, and for packages installations and
> updates).
> 

I may as well mention this too as you seem receptive to respectful
discussion.

The sudo that Ubuntu uses could also be used in Debian, although I also
prefer having a passworded root account(Ubuntu has a root account, it just
doesn't have a password). BTW, I love that comment, pseudo <--> sudo, nice
play on words. :)

By default Ubuntu only gives the initial user at install the sudo
permissions. The proper way to do an installation of workstations in the
situation you describe is to use that initial username as the admin
account and not to add all subsequent users as All:All or to the admin
group. You'd still have the flexibility to allow sudo to a user and/or
group for specific binaries, if that is needed. Similar to the way one
might not have every user as an admin on a Windows install in a workgroup
situation.


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Re: downloading hotmail emails

[Py]

Serveur POP : pop3.live.com (Port 995 avec connexion SSL)
Serveur SMTP : smtp.live.com (Port 25 avec connexion SSL)

T o n g wrote:
> On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:35:01 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote:
> 
> > Anyway I solved it found
> > out hotmail had pop and smtp servers so I just use that... works for me
> 
> with a free account?
> 
> What are the hotmail's pop and smtp servers? 
> 
> Thanks
> 
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firefox logo in cmake

[Mathieu Malaterre]

'lo

  I just realize something funny today. debian team has put a lot of
effort to remove all the firefox logo from the debian package. But a
logo came back in unnoticed by anyone:

$ apt-get install cmake
$ xdg-open /usr/share/cmake-2.6/Modules/CPack.background.png.in


$ apt-cache policy cmake
cmake:
  Installed: 2.6.0-5~bpo40+1
  Candidate: 2.6.0-5~bpo40+1


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Re: Debian needs ENTER to continue boot process

[Rodrigo Hashimoto]

Just to complement,

I must press the ENTER key for many times, or the POWER KEY only once,
it worked as well but I pressed it only once and the boot continue fine.

Thanks


On Mon, 2009-03-02 at 20:26 -0300, Rodrigo Hashimoto wrote:

> Hey there,
> 
> Something very weird is happening in my OS. I just compiled the kernel
> 2.6.28.7 and to boot my machine I need to press ENTER many times
> during the boot process. I've never seen anything similar to this
> issue.
> 
> It's like to run the command: 
> 
> # cat /var/log/messages|less
> 
> Then you can press ENTER to see the next line, right ? So, that's it
> what is happening during the boot process.
> 
> Does anyone have any idea ??
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 

Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Thorny]

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 23:41:06 +0900, Bret Busby wrote:
> One major problem with Ubuntu, apart from the pseudo thingy, is the
> colour. I much prefer the blue colour of Debian (kind of like some people
> and cars; "What kind of car do you drive?" - "A red one" ; "what kind of
> linux do I prefer? - "A blue one" ;) ).
>

The Kubuntu derivative of Ubuntu is blue. :-) Of course, it doesn't have
Gnome by default.

 
> Perhaps, a convenient solution, to whether newly installed packages should
> be automatically added to the Applicatopons menu hierarchy, would be that,
> when an extra package is installed on a system, the package, or the
> installer (package manager like Synaptic or apt), could institute a
> dialogue box, on completion of the installation; "Do you want this
> application added to the Applications menu hierarchy?", and, if the answer
> is "y", then the application is automatically added to the Applications
> menu hierarchy, and, if "n", or otherwise the application is not
> automatically added to the Applications menu hierarchy.
> 
> I think that that would make a good package development standard - for
> packages that are installed on a system, that could be run from a menu,
> to, at the completion of installation, generate a dialogue box that
> incorporates the option to have the application automatically added to the
> Applications menu hierarchy; something like (in this case) "The Flight
> Gear package installation has completed. Do you want it automatically
> added to the Applications menu hierarchy? Enter "y" for yes > ".
> 
> It is a thought...
>
And, I don't disagree with your thought, it's just not the
default behaviour I desire.

You may file a "wish list" bug against any package manager you
think should have it.


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Re: need help on shell programming

[Joe McDonagh]

Why is it not the 'best' idea? Infinite loops can be used to your 
advantage. It's already been remarked that cron will not work because it 
is fixed-frequency. That means OP will have to start maintaining state 
via files to avoid race conditions.


An infinite while;do;done construct can be interrupted by a SIGINT 
anyways. A well-constructed shell script will trap this signal and clean 
up whatever dirt it's left behind for finally dying. The while [ 1 -eq 1 
]; answer is semantically correct, but using while true; looks nicer.


Raphael Faria wrote:


i dont think that script with an eternal loop is the best ideia. If u 
want keep  this script running for a long time ( even when ur user is 
loged out, u will need a screen desatached [ screen ^a  ^d]).  My 
advice will be that u make this script and set a rule at ur crontab 
for every min:


#crontab -e

(put this line if u need taht script to run every min)
* *  * *   *  ./path/script


hope that helps u,



2009/3/1 Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta >


while [ 1 -eq 1 ]; then
  
  sleep 60
done

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:35:01 Mike Castle wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Michael Pobega
mailto:pob...@gmail.com>> wrote:

On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:54:28PM -0500, Long Wind wrote:

I want a script.
The script run a command, wait one minute,
then run the command again, wait one minute again
... again and again ...

Sounds like a job for Cron!

It depends on how long the job takes, and what the
requirements are.

They did seem to imply they want to wait 60 seconds
between the end of
one run to the start of the next one, as opposed to
running every 60
seconds regardless.


The OP says they want fixed-delay.  Cron is for
fixed-frequency.  A script that schedules itself as an "at"
job as it's last command is another way to handle fixed-delay.

If the job takes 45 seconds, it could be a pretty
substantial semantic
difference.


Yep.


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Re: downloading hotmail emails

[T o n g]

On Tue, 03 Mar 2009 19:35:01 +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote:

> Anyway I solved it found
> out hotmail had pop and smtp servers so I just use that... works for me

with a free account?

What are the hotmail's pop and smtp servers? 

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Re: Where is PHP5 sybase_ct package ?

[Frank Bonnet]

Frank Bonnet wrote:

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 16:40:39 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:

[...]

Would be *great* if the maintainer(s) of the php5-sybase package 
could  give  me all arguments passed into the configure script ...


You can run

apt-get source php5-sybase

and look at the commands in php5-5.2.6.dfsg.1/debian/rules.



OK thanks a lot , gonna do that.




well I haven't luck with it ... it is not possible to
compile sybtcl that is required to build sybase-ct module ...



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Re: restarting a locked X server

[Sjors Gielen]

Sjors Gielen schreef:


You probably want to kill -9 the window manager or a Xorg process or so. 
Just restarting the server will not help.


Oh, nevermind, I just figured your X server wasn't even running anymore. 
(Never hurts to check though. ;-) )


Sjors


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Re: restarting a locked X server

[Sjors Gielen]

tyler schreef:

Hi,

My xserver crashed this morning, due apparently to some known bugs in
the intel video drivers. However, after the crash I couldn't restart X
from the command line, and had to reboot to get everything back working
again. There must be someway to clean up after X crashes without
rebooting? I've pasted the output of one of my failed attempts to invoke
startx without rebooting, any suggestions on how I can force a clean
start of X would be welcome!


You probably want to kill -9 the window manager or a Xorg process or so. 
Just restarting the server will not help.


Also, from inside X, you can press Ctrl+Alt+Backspace to restart the 
server. I'm not sure if that works when the X server is locked, though.


Sjors


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restarting a locked X server

[tyler]

Hi,

My xserver crashed this morning, due apparently to some known bugs in
the intel video drivers. However, after the crash I couldn't restart X
from the command line, and had to reboot to get everything back working
again. There must be someway to clean up after X crashes without
rebooting? I've pasted the output of one of my failed attempts to invoke
startx without rebooting, any suggestions on how I can force a clean
start of X would be welcome!

Thanks,

Tyler


X.Org X Server 1.4.2
Release Date: 11 June 2008
X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
Build Operating System: Linux Debian (xorg-server 2:1.4.2-10)
Current Operating System: Linux blackbart 2.6.26-1-686 #1 SMP Sat Jan 10 
18:29:31 UTC 2009 i686
Build Date: 09 January 2009  02:57:16AM
 
Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
Module Loader present
Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
(==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Tue Mar  3 10:05:30 2009
(==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"

(WW) intel: No matching Device section for instance (BusID PCI:0:2:1) found
(II) Module "ddc" already built-in
(II) Module "i2c" already built-in
(II) Module "ramdac" already built-in
Error in I830WaitLpRing(), timeout for 2 seconds
pgetbl_ctl: 0xbffc0001 getbl_err: 0x
ipeir: 0x iphdr: 0x0211
LP ring tail: 0x0001e930 head: 0x0001e93c len: 0x0001f001 start 0x
eir: 0x esr: 0x emr: 0x
instdone: 0xfa41 instpm: 0x
memmode: 0x0306 instps: 0x800f04c4
hwstam: 0xfffe ier: 0x0002 imr: 0x iir: 0x00a0
Ring at virtual 0xa789 head 0x1e93c tail 0x1e930 count 32765
0001e8bc: 00400100
0001e8c0: 0080
0001e8c4: 

[snipped]

0001e938: 0720
0001e93c: 
Ring end
space: 4 wanted 32

Fatal server error:
lockup


waiting for X server to begin accepting connections 
giving up.
xinit:  Connection reset by peer (errno 104):  unable to connect to X server
xinit:  No such process (errno 3):  Server error.


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Bret Busby]

On Tue, 3 Mar 2009, Thorny wrote:





Also, I had (apparently, completely wrongly) understood that, when
installing a package with Synaptic, it was the role of Synaptic, as the
package manager, to ensure that the package was added to the relevant
menu, in the Applications menu hierarchy.



As I mentioned previously, not every sys admin wants the package
executable link added to the menu. I suspect you are looking at this issue
as a single user desktop situation, rather than as a multi-seat server
situation. Ubuntu is, mostly, crafted to be easy to use for people new to
GNU/Linux and who are just using a desktop system for their home computer
with just a single user or just the family. A long time joke (somewhat
undeserved, yet still amusing), is Ubuntu - an African word for can't
install and configure Debian. [Please don't flame me for that, I have an
Ubuntu install as well as Debian installs, also other distros for
evaluation and I don't hate newbies] The experienced GNU/Linux users who
choose Ubuntu don't have a problem with things happening, or not
happening, automagically. On the other hand, many Debian installs are for
multi-seat servers and, as I mentioned, the sys admin desires more control
of configuration and understands, or learns, how to accomplish the task.
In that light, I imagine you understand the sanity of the default
behaviour of Debian.



Yes; each workstation installation that we have, whilst it has more than 
one user account, is used by only one person at a time, and is primarily 
a single-user system (but, I really don't like the pseudo thingy that 
Ubuntu uses, rather than having a root account. I much prefer having a 
root account, for system maintenance, and for packages installations 
and updates).


One major problem with Ubuntu, apart from the pseudo thingy, is the 
colour. I much prefer the blue colour of Debian (kind of like some 
people and cars; "What kind of car do you drive?" - "A red one" ; "what 
kind of linux do I prefer? - "A blue one" ;) ).


Whilst we have two servers in use; a gateway/firewall, running 
smoothwall, and a mailserver, running postfix (and, sometime, I want to 
get SQWebMail and SpamAssassin running), working with the utilities on 
them, is a bit different to dealing with user applications on the 
workstations. Or, it is, to me, anyway.



Many people don't use a GUI package manager like Synaptic. On the command
line, one doesn't need a menu, or at least, nothing more sophisticated
than the tab key.



Synaptic is convenient, but sometimes, to make sure that I get a full 
update, I have had to use apt-get. For finding applications, like a 
flight simulator, with which I am not familiar, Synaptic is useful, 
because it is generally easier to use (and, I do not remember, offhand, 
fow to find and install extra applications, using apt-get, or aptitude).





I apologise for my lack ofknowledge in all of this.



We are all ignorant of a topic until we learn and, these days, most
posters don't flame someone for not yet understanding something.


Just a quick additional note; in the Properties information for the
package, in both installations, with the label of Section, in the Common
tab, both packages have the same value; "Games and Amusement".

So, it would seem logical, that each of the two installations, would
automatically result in the package being added to the Games menu,
within the Applications hierarchy, by virtue of the Section parameter,
having the value, in each case.



It would seem logical, given one point of view, but as I mentioned
previously, that's not the behaviour that I desire from a package manager
any more than I want a link to the executable binary automagically added
to the desktop. There are more than 1000 Debian developers, worldwide,
and they vote as to how things are handled by default, perhaps there is a
logical plan.




And, as I had said, it had not occurred to me, that packages would have 
different developers/maintainers, for each distribution.


Thus, apparently, the differences in installation, between different 
distributions.


I assume that some applications, like GRAMPS, GnuCash, and PotgreSQL (to 
give a variety of different types of applications), have the same 
developers/maintainers, for all distributions, with possibly different 
developers working on different version numbers of the applications?


Perhaps, a convenient solution, to whether newly installed packages 
should be automatically added to the Applicatopons menu hierarchy, would 
be that, when an extra package is installed on a system, the package, or 
the installer (package manager like Synaptic or apt), could institute a 
dialogue box, on completion of the installation; "Do you want this 
application added to the Applications menu hierarchy?", and, if the 
answer is "y", then the application is automatically added to the 
Applications menu hierarchy, and, if "n", or otherwise the application 
is not automatically added to the Applications menu

Re: Debian Lenny Based SimplyMEPIS 8.0 is Released

[Thorny]

On Tue, 24 Feb 2009 17:58:35 -0800, Jimmy Johnson wrote:

[...]
> I agree with what you say, but is not the case with Debian-Live it only
> covers amd64 and i386.

Great for a desktop system Jimmy, however, Debian is for more than just
desktop systems. You have stated a preference for live CDs and in a
limited and closed situation like that, the one click solution is easier
to implement. On an installed system where a sys admin may even have
compiled some of the software and, possibly, put it in a non-standard
location, it can be a non-trivial task to make a "one click solution".
Perhaps the 1000+ devs of Debian are not as intelligent as Warren or
perhaps they collaborate on decisions, consensus isn't reached easily in a
large group and democratic vote almost always means some people don't get
their way.

Referring to another comment you made: Some of them Debian devs are "old
dogs" too, I suspect the inability to work well with others has more to do
with personality than age. Our world view is often affected by our
experience and emotion, even our mental state at the time.

Please don't flame me with another of your personal emails, reply to the
list for peer review.


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Re: need help on shell programming

[Raphael Faria]

i dont think that script with an eternal loop is the best ideia. If u want
keep  this script running for a long time ( even when ur user is loged out,
u will need a screen desatached [ screen ^a  ^d]).  My advice will be that u
make this script and set a rule at ur crontab for every min:

#crontab -e

(put this line if u need taht script to run every min)
* *  * *   *  ./path/script


hope that helps u,



2009/3/1 Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta 

> while [ 1 -eq 1 ]; then
>   
>   sleep 60
> done
>
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
>
>> On Thursday 26 February 2009 18:35:01 Mike Castle wrote:
>>
>>> On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Michael Pobega 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:54:28PM -0500, Long Wind wrote:

> I want a script.
> The script run a command, wait one minute,
> then run the command again, wait one minute again
> ... again and again ...
>
 Sounds like a job for Cron!

>>> It depends on how long the job takes, and what the requirements are.
>>>
>>> They did seem to imply they want to wait 60 seconds between the end of
>>> one run to the start of the next one, as opposed to running every 60
>>> seconds regardless.
>>>
>>
>> The OP says they want fixed-delay.  Cron is for fixed-frequency.  A script
>> that schedules itself as an "at" job as it's last command is another way to
>> handle fixed-delay.
>>
>>  If the job takes 45 seconds, it could be a pretty substantial semantic
>>> difference.
>>>
>>
>> Yep.
>>
>
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Re: ALSA devices: NOT ENABLED IN CONFIG

[Arthur Marsh]

Mark Neidorff wrote, on 2009-02-18 01:21:

Is there a solution to configuring sound?  If not, where is the proper place 
to ask for one?


There is an alsa-user mailing list 
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Mailing-lists


I've found part of the fun being that there isn't a clear mapping 
between what


cat /proc/asound/cards

shows and what modules are needed. The pcspkr module also added to the 
confusion.


I'd like a graphical front end a bit like alsaconf but geared towards 
handling multiple sound cards and letting the user pick which card 
should be default, even to the point of allowing a just-plugged in usb 
sound device (which may even be a web-cam's microphone) to become the 
default device while it's plugged in, and reverting to an on-board sound 
card when disconnected (if that's what the user wants).


Arthur.


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Re: Adding installed packages to menu

[Thorny]

>> Also, I had (apparently, completely wrongly) understood that, when
>> installing a package with Synaptic, it was the role of Synaptic, as the
>> package manager, to ensure that the package was added to the relevant
>> menu, in the Applications menu hierarchy.
>>
>>
As I mentioned previously, not every sys admin wants the package
executable link added to the menu. I suspect you are looking at this issue
as a single user desktop situation, rather than as a multi-seat server
situation. Ubuntu is, mostly, crafted to be easy to use for people new to
GNU/Linux and who are just using a desktop system for their home computer
with just a single user or just the family. A long time joke (somewhat
undeserved, yet still amusing), is Ubuntu - an African word for can't
install and configure Debian. [Please don't flame me for that, I have an
Ubuntu install as well as Debian installs, also other distros for
evaluation and I don't hate newbies] The experienced GNU/Linux users who
choose Ubuntu don't have a problem with things happening, or not
happening, automagically. On the other hand, many Debian installs are for
multi-seat servers and, as I mentioned, the sys admin desires more control
of configuration and understands, or learns, how to accomplish the task.
In that light, I imagine you understand the sanity of the default
behaviour of Debian.

Many people don't use a GUI package manager like Synaptic. On the command
line, one doesn't need a menu, or at least, nothing more sophisticated
than the tab key.


>> I apologise for my lack ofknowledge in all of this.
>>
>>
We are all ignorant of a topic until we learn and, these days, most
posters don't flame someone for not yet understanding something.

> Just a quick additional note; in the Properties information for the
> package, in both installations, with the label of Section, in the Common
> tab, both packages have the same value; "Games and Amusement".
> 
> So, it would seem logical, that each of the two installations, would
> automatically result in the package being added to the Games menu,
> within the Applications hierarchy, by virtue of the Section parameter,
> having the value, in each case.
>
>
It would seem logical, given one point of view, but as I mentioned
previously, that's not the behaviour that I desire from a package manager
any more than I want a link to the executable binary automagically added
to the desktop. There are more than 1000 Debian developers, worldwide,
and they vote as to how things are handled by default, perhaps there is a
logical plan.


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Realtek wireless chip

[Kevin Philp]

I am having a few problems with my wireless connection and am coming to 
the conclusion its the driver.


I am running Lenny with a pci wireless card with an RT2560F chipset - 
but I only get very slow speeds out of it <1M. I have checked everything 
else and now think its the driver - as anyone else had issues with this?


Kevin.


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Re: Does DNSMasq (or other DNS/DHCP Servers) Cache Old Addresses?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 03:56:04AM -0500, Hal Vaughan wrote:
> I'm adding a new system to my LAN.  The DNS is running DNSMasq and is on 
> Etch.  The new system is running Lenny.  I edited the /etc/network/ 
> interfaces file to include the following (other than loopback, the only 
> interface in the file):
>
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 172.16.7.111
> netmask 255.255.0.0
> gateway 172.16.7.1
>
> Originally, when Debian set up the system, it used DHCP instead of a  
> static IP.  This IP address (172.16.7.111) is defined on the DNS server 
> in /etc/hosts (which DNSMasq uses for config).  When Debian-Lenny set 
> this up under DHCP, it was assigned the address 172.16.7.131.  I edited 
> the interfaces file to include the above.  If I did 
> "/etc/init.d/networking restart," then it would again get the ...131 
> address.  If I did "ifup eth0" (after doing ifdown first), then it'd get 
> the 111 address it should have, but in at least one case, a few minutes 
> later I checked and it was back to 131.
>
> I finally shut down the new system and rebooted the DNS server -- after 
> having shut off networking on the new system and restarting DNSMasq on 
> the DNS.  Then I brought up the DNS server, and after that, brought up 
> the new system.  Now it's working and it finally let me define eth0:0 as 
> well (which it kept choking on before).
>
> So why did it keep getting forced to use the 172.16.7.131 address  
> instead of the one ending in 111?  Did DNSMasq cache the MAC address or 
> did the new workstation cache the info and reuse it automatically?  What 
> was it that the reboot would have restarted that would allow this system 
> to finally get the specified address after the reboot?

The log of dnsmasq is at /var/log/daemon.log .

When your computer asks for an address, does it:

* Just use DHCPDISCOVER ?
* Uses DHCPDISCOVER but with a preferred IP address?
* Uses DHCPREQUEST directly?

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Re: logging writes to disk (keeping disk from spinning down)

[Micha Feigin]

On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 01:41:38 -0600
Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 02/28/2009 11:14 AM, green wrote:
> > On Sat, 2009-02-28, 059, Bob Cox wrote:
> >> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 08:21:16 +, Bob Cox
> >> (debian-u...@lists.bobcox.com) wrote: 
> >>> You may need noflushd (no flush daemon) to do
> >>> what you want.  
> >>>
> >>> aptitude show noflushd
> >> Which is for IDE drives and you are using SATA.  Ignore that suggestion
> >> then!
> > 
> > I did notice that and so discounted it immediately, but why would ext3 need
> > to do a write to journal every 5 seconds anyway when _nothing_ is being
> > written to the filesystem?  In that case a write only makes sense when the
> > filesystem is unmounted.
> > 
> > If something is in fact writing to the filesystem, then I need to find out 
> > what.
> 

You can abuse laptop mode and do
echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump
and then look in the syslog I think. You may need to also enable laptop mode
for this to work (at least used to be the case)
echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode

> Having members of a RAID set go to sleep independently of control by 
> md seems kinda scary.
> 


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browse with root-rights

[E.D. Grootjans]

Hallo,

If have a problem with browsing the Windows network under samba.
Under my previous version of smaba (3.0.24) browsing worked.

I will browse the Windows network with nautilus with root rights,
because i can plece files where i want them.
For this i use the command :

gksu -u root "nautilus --no-desktop --browser /root"

This starts nautilus with user root.
If i click on Network  --- i get a screen with the Windows Network Icon
If i click on this icon --- i hear some thing and my arrow returns; the
Windows icon stays on the screen.


As a normal user i can browse, but i have than to use the home-dir of
the user to copy the files to. And with root i have to copy them in
place.
Under 3.0.24 i could do this, but now under 3.2.5 it does not work

More info:
If i give the command from a terminal.
I get the following message to the terminalscreen:
Could not get main dbus connection: Did not receive a reply, Possible
cause include: the remote application did not send a reply, the message
bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timed out or the
network connection was broken.



Please help


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Re: Does DNSMasq (or other DNS/DHCP Servers) Cache Old Addresses?

[Aneurin Price]

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 8:56 AM, Hal Vaughan  wrote:
> I'm adding a new system to my LAN.  The DNS is running DNSMasq and is on
> Etch.  The new system is running Lenny.  I edited the
> /etc/network/interfaces file to include the following (other than loopback,
> the only interface in the file):
>
> auto eth0
> iface eth0 inet static
> address 172.16.7.111
> netmask 255.255.0.0
> gateway 172.16.7.1
>
> Originally, when Debian set up the system, it used DHCP instead of a static
> IP.  This IP address (172.16.7.111) is defined on the DNS server in
> /etc/hosts (which DNSMasq uses for config).  When Debian-Lenny set this up
> under DHCP, it was assigned the address 172.16.7.131.  I edited the
> interfaces file to include the above.  If I did "/etc/init.d/networking
> restart," then it would again get the ...131 address.  If I did "ifup eth0"
> (after doing ifdown first), then it'd get the 111 address it should have,
> but in at least one case, a few minutes later I checked and it was back to
> 131.
>
> I finally shut down the new system and rebooted the DNS server -- after
> having shut off networking on the new system and restarting DNSMasq on the
> DNS.  Then I brought up the DNS server, and after that, brought up the new
> system.  Now it's working and it finally let me define eth0:0 as well (which
> it kept choking on before).
>
> So why did it keep getting forced to use the 172.16.7.131 address instead of
> the one ending in 111?  Did DNSMasq cache the MAC address or did the new
> workstation cache the info and reuse it automatically?  What was it that the
> reboot would have restarted that would allow this system to finally get the
> specified address after the reboot?
>
There's no problem with the server - and techincally no *configuration*
problem with the client. It is the norm for a DHCP server to give the same
address every time to a given machine unless there is a particular reason
not to, so if the client makes a DHCP request then it will get its
preferred dynamic IP (off the top of my head I don't recall whether this
is because the client requests it or because the server stores the MAC
address, but it's definitely the usual behaviour). The question then is
why the client was asking for a dynamic IP address when it had a static
address configured, and the answer is probably as follows:

You changed /etc/network/interfaces, and then did /etc/init.d/networking
restart, yes? In this case, you had a DHCP client running, then switched
to static configuration. Restarting networking causes the interfaces
defined to be brought down, but because you had changed it, there were no
DHCP interfaces defined, so dhclient was never stopped. The static
interface was then brought up correctly, but the dhclient still running
would periodically make a DHCP request and overwrite it. Killing dhclient
would have solved your problem, or obviously rebooting, as you found.

Nye


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Re: How to adjust margins in xpdf reader?

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 06:18:29PM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 11:59:23PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 06:57:46PM +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:
> > 
> > >> How can I adjust the top and side margin at my pleasure in xpdf reader?  
> > >> I
> > >> couldn't find this issue in the xpdf man page.
> > "Douglas A. Tutty"  writes:
> > 
> > > I've never found a direct way.  I do it two ways:
> > >
> > > 1.Since I run on old hardware, some boxes are able to have a
> > >   larger virtual screen than the pysical screen.  To shrink the
> > >   margins and have larger text, just enlarge the xpdf window
> > >   beyond the size of the physical screen (with xpdf set to fit to
> > >   width).
> > >
> > > 2.Just set the zoom factor so that the margins are outside the
> > >   window.
> > 
> > I mean what I get in xdvi with the `topmargin' option, i.e.: with the up and
> > down arrows of the keyboard I adjust the vertical page position as I want 
> > and
> > then, every time I do `n' or `p' to move one page forward or backward, I 
> > want
> > that position not to change.
> > 
> > Is that possible, and how?
> 
> I doubt it since dvi is device-independant and is mostly for printing to
> paper.  pdf is for on-screen and only presents an image of paper.  If
> you mean so that you can print a pdf with a specific margin, it may be
> possilbe with some pdf tools but I don't know.  

*X*dvi is very much device dependent. Open up a dvi document with xdvi.
Poit the cursor to where you actually want the page to "begin" and press
'm' (IIRC). Now move to the next page ('n' IIRC) and the windo will show
the part beginning from the starting point. 

Very useful with single-column LaTeX documents. I have no idea how to do
that with xpdf or evince.

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kdesktop_lock

[Cassiel]

Hi you all,

I am experiencing a strange behaviour with desktop locking...that is I can
not unlock
Unlocking fails everytime and I can only kill the kdesktop_lock process...

any ideas?

r

Re: Where is PHP5 sybase_ct package ?

[Frank Bonnet]

Florian Kulzer wrote:

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 16:40:39 +0100, Frank Bonnet wrote:

[...]

Would be *great* if the maintainer(s) of the php5-sybase package could  
give  me all arguments passed into the configure script ...


You can run

apt-get source php5-sybase

and look at the commands in php5-5.2.6.dfsg.1/debian/rules.



OK thanks a lot , gonna do that.


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Re: 2.6.28 + nvidia closed source

[Anthony Campbell]

On 02 Mar 2009, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Happy to report that 2.6.28 from Sid also works with Nvidia non free  
> driver 96.43.11.
>
> The start up sequence is different from 2.6.26: the console goes blank  
> before starting X. But afterwards all is OK.
>
> Hugo

According the Nvidia site I need driver version 180.29. I have not been
able to install this, either with the Nvidia installer or with
module-assistant. Possibly this is because the linux-headers for this
kernel are not installable (because kbuild for it is not available).

Is there any likelihood that a Nvidia kernel module for this kernel will
become available later?

Anthony

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Re: How to change console font?

[Michael M. Moore]

Robert Latest wrote:

Hello Kelly,


As far as I know, any mode other than 80x25 is FB. There are two
way to display a penguin, one is the kernel option for a boot logo
(off by default in debian), the other is a boot splash program, such
as splashy or usplash.


Yeah, but I don't want the penguin anyway. What I want is a usable console.


All I do to enable higher resolution fb modes is put "vga=791" in the
kernel boot options and make sure console-setup is installed. I am
pretty stumped as to why this isn't working for you.


So am I. I found that I didn't have the console-setup installed, I
installed it, and was happy to see after a reboot that midway through
the boot process I got a different video mode. However, after a power
cycle, everything was back at 80x25 again.


Where are you putting the "vga=791" option?  Do you use GRUB?  This is 
what I have in /boot/grub/menu.lst and it works for me everytime:


### BEGIN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST
## lines between the AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST markers will be modified
## by the debian update-grub script except for the default options below

## DO NOT UNCOMMENT THEM, Just edit them to your needs

 [...]

## additional options to use with the default boot option, but not with 
## the alternatives

## e.g. defoptions=vga=791 resume=/dev/hda5
# defoptions=vga=791

Obviously, by setting the option here, the mode won't be utilized if I 
boot into a kernel other than the default.  But that's fine for me.


Michael M.


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Re: Help

[Tommy Bongaerts]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 04:52:43PM +0800, Mr. Wang Long wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 16:14, Dylan M.  wrote:
> > It is taking a very long to boot up the debian os. How long should it take
> > to boot up?
> Normally around one minute, maybe 30 sec, maybe 2 min.

It all depends on how much and what services/daemons you have
enabled. Starting sshd, httpd, mpd... takes time and will slow down
the boot process. I have a br0 interface set up, and that alone slows
down my boot process about 10 seconds. I don't really care though.

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Re: Vim tip (was Re: Suspend/Resume issues - Custom scripts notrunning? Mouse frozen?)

[Bob Cox]

On Tue, Mar 03, 2009 at 13:44:52 +0530, sathiya moorthy 
(mail2sathiyamoor...@gmail.com) wrote: 

> But why should we do all these handy..
> 
> when we have plugins already. check it out.
> http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=365


It certainly looks interesting, but there is quite a difference between
adding a few lines to .vimrc and installing a plugin comprising some 27
files totalling over 300kB ;-)

[ Also, please do not top-post, please reply only to the list and do not
post using HTML ]

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Does DNSMasq (or other DNS/DHCP Servers) Cache Old Addresses?

[Hal Vaughan]

I'm adding a new system to my LAN.  The DNS is running DNSMasq and is  
on Etch.  The new system is running Lenny.  I edited the /etc/network/ 
interfaces file to include the following (other than loopback, the  
only interface in the file):


auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 172.16.7.111
netmask 255.255.0.0
gateway 172.16.7.1

Originally, when Debian set up the system, it used DHCP instead of a  
static IP.  This IP address (172.16.7.111) is defined on the DNS  
server in /etc/hosts (which DNSMasq uses for config).  When Debian- 
Lenny set this up under DHCP, it was assigned the address  
172.16.7.131.  I edited the interfaces file to include the above.  If  
I did "/etc/init.d/networking restart," then it would again get the ... 
131 address.  If I did "ifup eth0" (after doing ifdown first), then  
it'd get the 111 address it should have, but in at least one case, a  
few minutes later I checked and it was back to 131.


I finally shut down the new system and rebooted the DNS server --  
after having shut off networking on the new system and restarting  
DNSMasq on the DNS.  Then I brought up the DNS server, and after that,  
brought up the new system.  Now it's working and it finally let me  
define eth0:0 as well (which it kept choking on before).


So why did it keep getting forced to use the 172.16.7.131 address  
instead of the one ending in 111?  Did DNSMasq cache the MAC address  
or did the new workstation cache the info and reuse it automatically?   
What was it that the reboot would have restarted that would allow this  
system to finally get the specified address after the reboot?


Thanks for any help or answers on this!


Hal


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Re: Help

[Mr. Wang Long]

On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 16:14, Dylan M.  wrote:
> It is taking a very long to boot up the debian os. How long should it take
> to boot up?
>
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Normally around one minute, maybe 30 sec, maybe 2 min. I think you
would like to install the package named "bootchart", and reboot your
system, then find the charts in /var/log/bootchart/ and see what's
wrong with your computer.

Wang Long


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Re: downloading hotmail emails

[Daniel Dalton]

h, this was like from 2 months ago... wow! Anyway I solved it found
out hotmail had pop and smtp servers so I just use that... works for me
[using fetchmail]

Daniel


On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 08:57:17PM +, Christopher Cole wrote:
>I've been banging my head trying to get hotmail through thunderbird.
>I found out however that MS will not that be posible if you have a free
>account.
>I guess money is so tight that MS is going to nickle and dime long time
>account holders. That is why I'm moving on to gmail. It's configured
>in my Debian etch laptop and lenny desktop.
> 
>Best of luck
>Christopher Cole
> 
>> Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:32:44 +1100
>> From: d.dal...@iinet.net.au
>> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>> Subject: Re: downloading hotmail emails
>>
>> Thanks will give this ago.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 01:41:32PM +, Pedro Insua wrote:
>> > On Wed, Jan 21, 2009 at 11:00:54PM +1100, Daniel Dalton wrote:
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > Could someone please give me some hints on setting up fetchmail with
>the
>> > > hotmail pop3 server provided in a reply to this thread? Eg. how do I
>> > > enable ssl in fetchmail, and establish an ssl connection with
>fetchmail
>> > > and get the required pem files or whatever from hotmail?
>> >
>> > 1) Install `fetchmail'
>> >
>> > apt-get install fetchmail
>> >
>> > 2) Read the doc in /usr/share/doc/fetchmail
>> > Read de manual `man fetchmail'
>> >
>> > 3) Create '~/.fetchmailrc' and set it `chmod 0600'
>> >
>> > Now you have to put something like this in '~/.fetchmailrc' to
>> > retrieve the hotmail mail:
>> >
>> > # hotmail.com
>> > poll pop3.live.com
>> > proto pop3
>> > port 995
>> > user "yourem...@hotmail.com"
>> > pass "yourpassword"
>> > is your_home
>> > fetchall
>> > ssl
>> >
>> > Well, i don't use hotmail, but.. i think will be something like
>> > this...
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Porqu? loitar e matar, se podes amar e sonhar
>> >
>> > /"\
>> > \ / CAMPANHA DA FITA ASCII - CONTRA MAIL HTML
>> > X ASCII RIBBON CAMPAIGN - AGAINST HTML MAIL
>> > / \
>> >
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Help

[Dylan M.]

It is taking a very long to boot up the debian os. How long should it 
take to boot up?



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Re: Segmentation fault when stating aptitude

[Bob Cox]

On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 18:26:25 -0500, Jacques Dery (de...@inforco.com) wrote: 

> Thank you for the suggestion but the problem still exists.
>
> Here is the output
> 
> de...@gontran:/var/cache/apt$ sudo rm pkgcache.bin
>
> de...@gontran:/var/cache/apt$ ls -ails
> total 12
> 160066 4 drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2009-03-02 18:13 .
> 160006 4 drwxr-xr-x 10 root root 4096 2009-02-26 06:27 ..
> 160073 4 drwxr-xr-x  3 root root 4096 2009-03-02 17:52 archives
>
> de...@gontran:/var/cache/apt$ sudo aptitude update
> Get:1 http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release.gpg [189B]
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates Release
> Get:2 http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch Release.gpg [386B]
> Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch Release
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources/DiffIndex
> Ign http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources/DiffIndex
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Packages
> Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Packages
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/main Sources
> Hit http://security.debian.org etch/updates/contrib Sources
> Ign http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/main Packages
> Hit http://ftp.uk.debian.org etch/contrib Packages
> Get:3 http://http.us.debian.org stable Release.gpg [386B]
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable Release
> Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages/DiffIndex
> Ign http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages/DiffIndex
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/main Packages
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/contrib Packages
> Hit http://http.us.debian.org stable/non-free Packages

I notice that you are getting updates and security updates for etch but
also updates for stable (lenny) with no corresponding security updates.

Are you intentionally mixing etch and lenny using pinning or a
"APT::Default-Release" setting?  Just a thought.

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Re: How to change console font?

[Robert Latest]

Hello Kelly,

> As far as I know, any mode other than 80x25 is FB. There are two
> way to display a penguin, one is the kernel option for a boot logo
> (off by default in debian), the other is a boot splash program, such
> as splashy or usplash.

Yeah, but I don't want the penguin anyway. What I want is a usable console.

> All I do to enable higher resolution fb modes is put "vga=791" in the
> kernel boot options and make sure console-setup is installed. I am
> pretty stumped as to why this isn't working for you.

So am I. I found that I didn't have the console-setup installed, I
installed it, and was happy to see after a reboot that midway through
the boot process I got a different video mode. However, after a power
cycle, everything was back at 80x25 again.

Also I think that the fb modes should be available directly from the
start, seeing that fb support is compiled into the kernel.

Is it time to file a bug against the kernel? Remember, with the latest
-k7 version from sarge everything works hitch-free.

Regarding the /dev/fb* nodes: Indeed my machine uses udev, and I
grepped all of /etc/udev/ for strings with "fb", "framebuffer" and
such. Nothing at all. Udev doesn't seem to know about framebuffers.
But I suppose that doesn't matter because the kernel should have fb
support right from the start, when it doesn't even have a filesystem
yet.

robert


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Re: Vim tip (was Re: Suspend/Resume issues - Custom scripts notrunning? Mouse frozen?)

[sathiya moorthy]

But why should we do all these handy..

when we have plugins already. check it out.
http://www.vim.org/scripts/script.php?script_id=365

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 5:52 PM, Andrew McGlashan <
andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au> wrote:

> Chris Bannister wrote:
>
>> If you use vim for your editing, put this in your .vimrc file:
>>
>> " automatically give executable permissions if file begins with #! and
>> " contains '/bin/' in the path
>>
>> function ModeChange()
>>  if getline(1) =~ "^#!"
>>   if getline(1) =~ "/bin/"
>> silent !chmod a+x 
>>   endif
>>  endif
>> endfunction
>>
>> au BufWritePost * call ModeChange()
>>
>
> Excellent Chris, I put them into my /etc/vim/vimrc.local file along with
> the following useful mods:
>
> map  :set paste
> :map  :set nopaste
> :imap  :set paste
> :imap  
> :set pastetoggle=
>
>
> " Added this setting for swp file location, so as not to adjust
> " date/times of actual directory holding the file(s) being edited
> " reference: http://www.vim.org/tips/tip.php?tip_id=20
> " - this works even if the working directory is writeable..
> set directory=/vim-temporary-swp-files
>
>
> Now I want to find some more gems like this... you have inspired me.
>
> Kind Regards
> AndrewM
>
> Andrew McGlashan
> Broadband Solutions now including VoIP
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