Re: Advice about ext3, please
Steven Demetrius wrote: Paul E Condon wrote: I'd like some confirmation, or refutation, of some reasoning: I have a USB external hard drive. It came with vfat fs, but I want to write an ext2/3 fs on it. All my internal HD are ext3, but should this one be ext3, also? Doesn't ext3 essentially write everything twice, first to the journal, and then to the actual target location? This is OK with an internal bus interface from the CPU to the HD, but USB is not so fast. So I think I should not use ext3 for this HD. Is this correct? TIA Basically ext3 is ext2 with Journaling. Journaling basically safe-guards against power failure and system crashes. It is well suited for system partitions and partitions that are being used most of the time your computer is on. Journaling uses significantly more disk space and does not allow for deleted file recovery. IT uses more resources that ext2. Journaling does not write everything twice. It keeps track of the file system which makes recovery fast and more reliable than file systems without Journaling. I recommend the following: ext3 - for system partitions and data partitions which are in use most of the time (/, /home, /var, etc. if they are separate partitions or drives). ext2 - for backup, removable, partitions rarely used, etc. If your USB external is for backup or file transfers then I recommend using the ext2 file system on it. Logic being that if your USB external data gets corrupted then you still have a copy of the data on another partition. FYI: Some people confuse backup with archiving. They will make copies of their data and store it away until they have data problems with the system. This is archiving. Backup is a never ending routine whether done once a week or one a month and also include regular data integrity checks of the backups. Correction: Journaling file system does write data twice. ttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
what may be the cause of error message "couldn't display [the_name_of_an_exe_file]"?
my platform is debian sid amd64, now i have an exe file, if i run it from command line, it runs successfully; but if i double click it to run, it disaplays error message "couldn't display [the_name_of_an_exe_file]", what may be the cause of this error? thanks. (the exe file is built by monodevelop) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: disabling GDM beep?
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 11:29 AM, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > Yes, I think that should do it. For a GUI way, run (as root) > gdmsetup and see the "Accessibility" tab for sound options. Thanks Chris, gdmsetup did it. Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?
On Thu, Mar 05, 2009 at 08:52:09AM -0600, Stackpole, Chris wrote: > > Stable. The fact people joke and make fun of how stable Debian is a > testament to the devs who make certain that Debian stable _is_ stable! Stable as in unchanging. No new packages are added to the "stable" branch whereas new packages are often added to the "unstable" branch, hence its name. Admins can just install stable and _know_ they'll have an unchanging system (except for security updates -- which are carefully patched against the existing same version). IOW, unstable is not called "unstable" because it is buggy and likely to crash. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Adding installed packages to menu
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 12:40:25AM +0900, Bret Busby wrote: > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .. I noticed your sig did not render correctly in my mailer. The deliniter for a sig is -- not -- > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > > You could shorten all that to at least: "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy -- Douglas Adams long sigs are considered bad nettiquette(sp?) especially if the sig has more lines than the actual content! -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
wget on dialup (was Re: iceweasel resume download fails after reboot)
On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 10:42:52AM -0500, Douglas A. Tutty wrote: > On Mon, Mar 02, 2009 at 06:24:18AM -0600, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: > > > Anybody able to use download resume across reboots? > > I manually copy the URL to ~/uldl/wget.list > > > Then I run wget -c -i wget.list I find it handy to also keep a log of the session so as to be able to associate the downloaded filename with the url. wget -c -i wget.list -a wget-log > I have wget aliased as > alias wget='/usr/bin/wget -t 0 --read-timeout=60' > > since I'm on dialup. me too, been having trouble with wget "hanging" after downloading a file, so might try this and see if it cures that annoying habit. -- Chris. == I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours. -- Stephen F Roberts -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Advice about ext3, please
Paul E Condon wrote: I'd like some confirmation, or refutation, of some reasoning: I have a USB external hard drive. It came with vfat fs, but I want to write an ext2/3 fs on it. All my internal HD are ext3, but should this one be ext3, also? Doesn't ext3 essentially write everything twice, first to the journal, and then to the actual target location? This is OK with an internal bus interface from the CPU to the HD, but USB is not so fast. So I think I should not use ext3 for this HD. Is this correct? TIA Basically ext3 is ext2 with Journaling. Journaling basically safe-guards against power failure and system crashes. It is well suited for system partitions and partitions that are being used most of the time your computer is on. Journaling uses significantly more disk space and does not allow for deleted file recovery. IT uses more resources that ext2. Journaling does not write everything twice. It keeps track of the file system which makes recovery fast and more reliable than file systems without Journaling. I recommend the following: ext3 - for system partitions and data partitions which are in use most of the time (/, /home, /var, etc. if they are separate partitions or drives). ext2 - for backup, removable, partitions rarely used, etc. If your USB external is for backup or file transfers then I recommend using the ext2 file system on it. Logic being that if your USB external data gets corrupted then you still have a copy of the data on another partition. FYI: Some people confuse backup with archiving. They will make copies of their data and store it away until they have data problems with the system. This is archiving. Backup is a never ending routine whether done once a week or one a month and also include regular data integrity checks of the backups. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: disabling GDM beep?
Daryl Styrk wrote: > Girish Kulkarni wrote: >> On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote: I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop. The beep that GDM throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in classrooms many times. How do I disable it? >>> Have a look in System>Preferences>Sound >> >> Doesn't help. I disabled the system beep there (also switched off >> all other sounds) but GDM still beeps. >> >> Girish. >> > > Humm.. maybe adding SoundOnLogin=false to your gdm.conf ? Yes, I think that should do it. For a GUI way, run (as root) gdmsetup and see the "Accessibility" tab for sound options. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bash - Readline in nested whiles?
1) Please don't post HTML to the list. 2) Tell wget to retry (--tries=3) rather than using a loop. --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
how to produce cross-platform exe file?
My target is to make cross-platform desktop application by gecko, now I have prepared a sample program, all the files are in a folder named myapp. In linux system, I can launch the app by this commmand: xulrunner-1.9 /root/MyLife/Mozilla/myapp/application.ini In windows system, I can launch the app by this command: xulrunner.exe e:/myapp/application.ini I want to make a exe file, so that by double clicking the exe file, users can launch the app, I hope a same exe file can do it on both windows and linux systems, and I also hope the exe file will display as a selected icon. How could I reach it? thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: disabling GDM beep?
Girish Kulkarni wrote: Hi, I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop. The beep that GDM throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in classrooms many times. How do I disable it? Thanks, Girish. Simple ways to solve this: 1. Before you shutdown the desktop mute the sound using the mixer app. 2. If your laptop has physical sound controls on it, before GDM starts press he mute button or set the volume to minimum. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
Dotan Cohen wrote: > Yes, there are those who over react. And no, I didn't killfile you! [ snippage ] > Just like I had seen only your post, and not Steve's. Know that that > is likely to happen before you decide to be violent or troll. The irony here is that the reason this is so is because Dotan's got me killfilled for my messages over on KU-U, a forum on which I am far, far, more restrained when compared to D-U. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: disabling GDM beep?
Girish Kulkarni wrote: On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote: I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop. The beep that GDM throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in classrooms many times. How do I disable it? Have a look in System>Preferences>Sound Doesn't help. I disabled the system beep there (also switched off all other sounds) but GDM still beeps. Girish. Humm.. maybe adding SoundOnLogin=false to your gdm.conf ? http://tinyurl.com/b5m2dt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: disabling GDM beep?
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Daryl Styrk wrote: >> I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop. The beep that GDM >> throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in >> classrooms many times. How do I disable it? > > Have a look in System>Preferences>Sound Doesn't help. I disabled the system beep there (also switched off all other sounds) but GDM still beeps. Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: disabling GDM beep?
Girish Kulkarni wrote: Hi, I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop. The beep that GDM throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in classrooms many times. How do I disable it? Thanks, Girish. Have a look in System>Preferences>Sound -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
disabling GDM beep?
Hi, I use Lenny on my Dell Inspiron 640m laptop. The beep that GDM throws with the login screen has been a source of embarrasment in classrooms many times. How do I disable it? Thanks, Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
> Top-posting doesn't bother me and I actually find it easier to follow, > possibly because I used to work in support. Top-posting to unix geeks is the > equivalent of killing a small child's puppy. I never understood the rage > that top-posting produces, and seriously, "top posters should be shot at > dawn," one guy says, that just makes me want to do it more. Maybe if someone > with some actual communication skills (rare in the linux 'community') had > asked/told politely the first time I would have just not done it. > Yes, there are those who over react. And no, I didn't killfile you! > The only reason I responded or "gloated" as you say to Steve was because of > the overall tone of his first response. There was nothing trollish about it. I didn't even see that first response of his, only your troll. And yes, it was a troll. > If someone is making inflammatory remarks to you, chances are you are going > to be a jerk to them. > No, that is not right. Where I live, our neighbors blow up on our city buses and shoot at us during our holiday celebrations. How do we respond? We give them food, fuel, and work. Of course, in the extraordinary event that we do respond violently, the international community reports only on our response and not on the initial attacks. Just like I had seen only your post, and not Steve's. Know that that is likely to happen before you decide to be violent or troll. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Unison not syncing files under ~/.kde
On Sun, Mar 8, 2009 at 9:21 AM, A. F. Cano wrote: > ignorenot = Path afc/.kde/share/apps/kpilot #this is a directory > ignorenot = Path afc/.kde/share/apps/karm/karm.ics #individual file > ignorenot = Path afc/.wine/user_files > > But these do not propagate. > > ignore = Path afc/Desktop > ignore = Name .* > ignore = Name *.o Which Unison version are you using? The Unison manual has the following to say about ignorenot: "Note that the semantics of ignore and ignorenot is a little counter-intuitive. When detecting updates, Unison examines paths in depth-first order, starting from the roots of the replicas and working downwards. Before examining each path, it checks whether it matches ignore and does not match ignorenot; in this case it skips this path and all its descendants. This means that, if some parent of a given path matches an ignore pattern, then it will be skipped even if the path itself matches an ignorenot pattern. In particular, putting ignore = Path * in your profile and then using t ignorenot to select particular paths to be synchronized will not work. Instead, you should use the path preference to choose particular paths to synchronize." See -- http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/download/releases/stable/unison-manual.html#prefs In your case apparently .kde is ignored because its path matches an ignore criterion. Then it doesn't matter even if some descendent of .kde matches a ignorenot criterion. A solution is to edit your ignore patterns to keep .kde safe. (Use regexp maybe?) HTH, Girish. -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - http://girish.50webs.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: etch -> lenny, update-initramfs interrupts dpkg
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 9:13 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 05:30:47PM -0600, Mark Copper wrote: >> Hi, >> >> Updating from etch to lenny following release notes. >> >> "aptitude upgrade" ends with >> >> Processing triggers for initramfs-tools ... >> update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18 >> /usr/sbin/mkinitramfs: line 164: mktemp: command not found >> update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-2.6.18 >> dpkg: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1 >> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' >> to correct the problem. >> >> but running dpkg --configure -a results in the sam error. >> >> Besides it's strange that mktem should not be installed already, but >> >> aptitude show mktemp >> >> says, no, it's not installed. But if I do try to install it: >> >> deneb:~# apt-get install mktemp >> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' >> to correct the problem. >> >> So it seems I'm stuck in a vicious circle. > > Did you try downloading mktemp package with wget/curl or "apt-get -d > ..." and use dpkg to install with some -f options in man pages? No I didn't, but I would have if the thought had occurred to me. What made you think of it? I don't know how to get the deb manually, but I managed to compile from source. And then 'dpkg -i' worked without any coaxing. And then 'dpkg --configure -a' ran without complaint (OK it choked on vim). Thank you. > >> Can this circle be broken? > > Unless you did something funny, this is bug worth reporting. I almost surely did. But it bothers me the mktemp pkg would vanish... > > Osamu > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Bash - Readline in nested whiles?
On Sat March 7 2009 19:48:30 Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta wrote: > cat list.txt > a > b > > while read r; do echo $r; done < list.txt; > a > b > > x=0; while read r; do while [ $x -lt 3 ]; do let x=$x+1; echo $r; done; > done < lista.txt ; > a > a > > Why not the output is? Can't be nested while when reading line? > a > a > a > b > b > b > > Any comment will be preciated. while read r; do x=0; while [ $x -lt 3 ]; do let x=$x+1; echo $r; done; done < list.txt --Mike Bird -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Unison not syncing files under ~/.kde
Hi, I've been using unison to keep home directories syncronized for quite a while now, but this little bit is starting to aggravate me. It appears that, unless I'm missing something in the configuration below, files under a .directory are ignored. Note that at the bottom there is a blanket "ignore = Name .*" to leave alone most .files which are system specific, but certain ones I want to propagate, thus the ignorenot lines. The relevant bits on the ~/.unison/default.prf file are: ignorenot = Path afc/.procmailrc ignorenot = Path afc/.fetchmailrc ignorenot = Path afc/.signature ignorenot = Path afc/.mutt ignorenot = Path afc/.profile ignorenot = Path afc/.bashrc ignorenot = Path afc/.vimrc All these get propagated just fine ignorenot = Path afc/.kde/share/apps/kpilot #this is a directory ignorenot = Path afc/.kde/share/apps/karm/karm.ics #individual file ignorenot = Path afc/.wine/user_files But these do not propagate. ignore = Path afc/Desktop ignore = Name .* ignore = Name *.o Has anyone else encountered this? Is it a quirk of the configuration file? or should I file a bug report? A. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Bash - Readline in nested whiles?
cat list.txt a b while read r; do echo $r; done < list.txt; a b x=0; while read r; do while [ $x -lt 3 ]; do let x=$x+1; echo $r; done; done < lista.txt ; a a Why not the output is? Can't be nested while when reading line? a a a b b b Any comment will be preciated. -- -- "You don't know where your shadow will fall", Somebody.- -- Ing. Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta -- http://olafrv.googlepages.com (Personal Webpage) -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Window Borders, Title Bars, etc. Missing in Lenny w/ KDE
Hal Vaughan wrote: I installed Lenny on one system, then did "apt-get install kdebase kdm" and everything went fine. I had to take that system down (it was more for testing anyway) and just set up a new one and did the same thing, but now, in KDE, all the window borders, sliders, title bars, and such are missing. Do I need to install another package (I also installed kdecore on this one)? what happened that this is a problem only on one system but wasn't on the first one? Thanks for any help on this! Sounds to me you are missing the package "kwin" the KDE window manager. -- Jimmy Johnson Bakersfield, CA. U.S.A. Registered Linux User #380263 K.I.S.S. (Keep it simple stupid) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5
Bret Busby wrote: > The Mozilla suite, whether you want to name it seamonkey or iceape, or whatever, has apparently been removed from Debian, the last version where it as present, being Debian 4. It is kind of like driving a car without a windscreen; it runs, but it is not nice. Install Iceweasel and Icedove, and so on. Iceape is still in Debian, but right now it is in "Sid". You can still install it, if you like. Add Sid to your /etc/apt/sources.list. Or add "Squeeze" (the codename for the future successor to 5.0) to sources.list, and wait a while, and eventually Iceape will appear there. prehistoric == "Sarge" (Old Oldstable) Debian 4.0 == "Etch" (Oldstable) Debian 5.0 == "Lenny" (Stable) Testing == "Squeeze" Unstable == "Sid" Experimental == "Experimental" Things tend to enter at Sid, and "float up" to Stable. So, patience, or install some alternatives. Iceweasel 3.0.x is better that the Mozilla Suite for a web brower, in my opinion. You might find a better calendar app, too. Try Evolution. Or Iceowl. Icedove is Thunderbird. If you install Iceowl, also install iceowl-extention, which lets you use the Iceowl with IceDove. Bluefish is a good HTML editor. Mark Allums -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 15:57, Bret Busby wrote: > > Well, after having been advised on the list, to upgrade to Debian 5, from > Debian 4, I have done it, on my laptop, to trial Debian 5. > > It appears that it is against my better judgement. > > The Mozilla suite, whether you want to name it seamonkey or iceape, or > whatever, has apparently been removed from Debian, the last version where it > as present, being Debian 4. Speaking as a Mozilla user, 1.x kind of sucks anyway. Use the latest alpha of 2.0 or a nightly and I think you will be pleasantly surprised. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5
Bret writes: > The Mozilla suite, whether you want to name it seamonkey or iceape, or > whatever, has apparently been removed from Debian, the last version where > it as present, being Debian 4. That's no reason for you to remove it from your machine. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny upgrade: Is there a way to reconfigure video card in lenny?
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 02:56:20PM -0800, S D wrote: > > I'm trying to resolve "Desktop is not using full screen" problem that > appeared after upgrade from etch to lenny. More info about the issue > can be found at: > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=515840 > > http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.user/browse_thread/thread/b651d56d24d02d35# > > Since there's no solution so far, I'd like to try to COMPLETELY > reconfigure my video card settings. Is there a way to do it in lenny? > > I tried "dpkg-recofigure xserver-xorg" but the reconfig process asked > some questions about the keyboard it didn't ask anything at all about > the videocard. > > Thanks > Have you tried manually reconfiguring your xorg.conf? You may need a "Mode" line, for example from mine (for my EeePC): Section "DRI" Mode0666 Endsection Figure out the exact resolution you need, and make a modeline for it (there is a formula available to use pixWidth/pixHeight/DPI to generate a modeline), and put it in your xorg.conf as specified above. You may have to create the "DRI" section. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Fedora guy byebyes Debian
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 09:22:08AM -0400, Rodolfo Alcazar Portillo wrote: > Well, a fun time (one week), sweating it up to make my ATI and Wifi work > in Lenny AMD64 but nothing. With old fedora wifi works from the live cd > and ATI with the update. No need even to try it with my dell or my > Aspireone. So byebye Debian. > > I found on lenny many of the bugs and troubles found in Fedora 8 and 9, > which all today are old history. Why losing time? Cant' understand. > Lenny is a nice white-haired rookie (altough older than fedora), apt is > nice, directory structures and config files are better than fedora, but > I hardly find Debian a stable distro. Pulling her to further limits > causes a quick breakage. I find hard fedora reporting a segfault, like > lenny gave yestarday on networks-admin gui. Why the battery indicator > suddenly dissapeared, being the panel thingy active? Why it takes so > long to boot -sometimes-? > > Farewell, debian. Thanks everybody. > Not to bring up an old thread (I'm bored here on the train, reading through my archives of d-u), but why do people feel the need to tell everyone when they are leaving? I mean, if it was someone who's names I recognize from seeing often (Joey Hess and Celejar come to mind) that's understandable, but some random guy? I don't understand it. That said, goodbye, and good luck in your future endeavors. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: problem with IPTABLEs
On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 07:28:35PM -0500, Long Wind wrote: > I want to specify a domain name in rules but the domain name often > changes IP Is there anything I can do about it? > Cronjob, every four hours or so gets the current IP of the domain. Then, in iptables, do something like iptables -arg rule -ip $(cat /file/you/stored/ip/in) Note: this is an ugly workaround, so if you need to do this for more than one domain you may want to find another method. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Instaling Debian in netbooks
On Sun, Feb 22, 2009 at 11:29:26PM -0200, Luis M. A. Ruiz wrote: > Hi. I'm wondering about instaling Debian GNU/Linux in a LG X110 > netbook (no CD drive). What is the best way to perform this? The > netbook specs are: > > Intel Atom N270 @ 1.6 Ghz > 1 Gb RAM > 120 Gb HDD > 1 SD card RW > 3 USB ports > 802.11 b/g wi-fi adapter > Realtec RTL8102E NIC > > > Thanks in advance and sorry about my english skills. > > Luis > The Debian wiki[0] contains information about installing Debian on an EeePC, which may be very similar to installing it on your netbook. You may also want to look at unetbootn, which creates a USB bootable image from a CD-ROM ISO. unetbootn is available for Windows, GNU/Linux, and (if memory serves) BSD and Mac OS. [0]http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: need help on shell programming
On Thu, Feb 26, 2009 at 04:54:28PM -0500, Long Wind wrote: > I want a script. > The script run a command, wait one minute, > then run the command again, wait one minute again > ... again and again ... > > Thanks! > Just to bring this back up, you can use a mix of shell programming and Cronjobs. For example, run your job like so; */1 * * * * script.sh and have the script do some process checking: #! /bin/sh if [ $(ps aux | grep script.sh | grep -v grep) ]; then That will make sure it runs every minute, without overlapping itself. When I write code that needs to be run a preset amount of time, I generally try to find a way to use Cron -- why recreate what is already available? -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Mozilla suite missing from Debian 5
Well, after having been advised on the list, to upgrade to Debian 5, from Debian 4, I have done it, on my laptop, to trial Debian 5. It appears that it is against my better judgement. The Mozilla suite, whether you want to name it seamonkey or iceape, or whatever, has apparently been removed from Debian, the last version where it as present, being Debian 4. It is kind of like driving a car without a windscreen; it runs, but it is not nice. Also, at the recommeded mirror, .au.debian.org flightgear (one of the reasons for the upgrade) is not present. So, I assume that that mirror is not complete. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?
Received that personally, so forwarding to the list... Joe McDonagh wrote : > >>> Hi, I just read an interesting article about FAI [1] (Fully Automatic >>> Installer), which present itself as : >>> >>> "FAI - Fully Automatic Installation >>> >>> I've used FAI and didn't really like it, probably because it was kind of overkill for what I was doing, and I prefer to stick with the OS's native automatic installation software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Window Borders, Title Bars, etc. Missing in Lenny w/ KDE
I installed Lenny on one system, then did "apt-get install kdebase kdm" and everything went fine. I had to take that system down (it was more for testing anyway) and just set up a new one and did the same thing, but now, in KDE, all the window borders, sliders, title bars, and such are missing. Do I need to install another package (I also installed kdecore on this one)? what happened that this is a problem only on one system but wasn't on the first one? Thanks for any help on this! Hal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
Do you know who it will inconvenience the most? Joe McDonagh. Because now that he gloats that he is a troll, when he needs help nobody will help him. This mailing list is a community effort, and those who don't want to be a part of the community, don't have to be. That's what killfiles are for. http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html Top-posting doesn't bother me and I actually find it easier to follow, possibly because I used to work in support. Top-posting to unix geeks is the equivalent of killing a small child's puppy. I never understood the rage that top-posting produces, and seriously, "top posters should be shot at dawn," one guy says, that just makes me want to do it more. Maybe if someone with some actual communication skills (rare in the linux 'community') had asked/told politely the first time I would have just not done it. The only reason I responded or "gloated" as you say to Steve was because of the overall tone of his first response. There was nothing trollish about it. If someone is making inflammatory remarks to you, chances are you are going to be a jerk to them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Advice about ext3, please
On 2009-03-07 21:30 +0100, Paul E Condon wrote: > I'd like some confirmation, or refutation, of some reasoning: > > I have a USB external hard drive. It came with vfat fs, but I want to > write an ext2/3 fs on it. All my internal HD are ext3, but should this > one be ext3, also? That would be okay, unless you need to access it from systems that cannot read ext3. > Doesn't ext3 essentially write everything twice, > first to the journal, and then to the actual target location? No, unless you use the mount option data=journal. See the "Mount options for ext3" section in mount(8). > This is OK with an internal bus interface from the CPU to the HD, but > USB is not so fast. So I think I should not use ext3 for this HD. Is > this correct? AFAIK there are no special disadvantages in using ext3 for external hard disks. Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Old PHP on new Debian
2009/3/8 Florian Weimer : > * Pet: > >> /etc/apt/sources.list > > This looks fine. How did you figure out that you had installed PHP > 5.1.6? He doesn't have it installed, he wants it installed. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Old PHP on new Debian
* Pet: > /etc/apt/sources.list This looks fine. How did you figure out that you had installed PHP 5.1.6? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: logging writes to disk (keeping disk from spinning down)
Stefan Monnier wrote at 2009-03-04_10:36 -0700: > Micha Feigin wrote at 2009-03-03_06:01 -0700: > > You can abuse laptop mode and do > > echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/block_dump > > and then look in the syslog I think. > > It's no abuse at all: it's the just The Right Way to do it. > BEWARE, tho: make sure your syslog doesn't get written to disk, > otherwise you'll get a storm of writes causing other writes ad-nauseum. > > Personally I do it this way: > 1 - turn off your usual syslog daemon (e.g. /etc/init.s/rsyslogd stop) > 2 - turn on a RAM-only syslog daemon, e.g.: > > busybox syslogd -C16 > busybox klogd > > then use "busybox logread" or "busybox logread -f" to look at > the syslog. Thanks Stefan, Micha for your comments; this looks like it may do what I want. I think I can even do this without disabling rsyslogd, by figuring out what log level and facility the block_dump output is and sending that to /tmp (on tmpfs) with some size constraints of some sort. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Old PHP on new Debian
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 4:22 PM, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Pet: > >> I'd like to install newest version of Debian available, but with one >> of older releases of PHP (5.1.6). Is it possible? How can I accomplish >> this? > > For a while, PHP 5.1.6 hasn't been available in a released Debian > distribution. > > Could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file? > sure /etc/apt/sources.list # # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.0 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20090214-16:54]/ lenny contrib main #deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.0 _Lenny_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 20090214-16:54]/ lenny contrib main deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main deb-src http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ lenny main deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main contrib deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main contrib ~ ~ I've downloaded .tar from www.php.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: logging writes to disk (keeping disk from spinning down)
Ron Johnson wrote at 2009-03-02_00:41 -0700: > Having members of a RAID set go to sleep independently of control by md > seems kinda scary. Um, can mdadm spin down the drives? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: screen multidisplay with terminals resized
Kelly Clowers wrote at 2009-02-28_09:19 -0700: > As for the actual problem of resized terms (especially within screen), > I unfortunately don't know of a good solution. You could try on the > awesome mailing list or IRC. Yeah, I will have to try the awesome mailing list and perhaps the screen list too. Thanks for the comments; perhaps I can find a solution in time. signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Advice about ext3, please
I'd like some confirmation, or refutation, of some reasoning: I have a USB external hard drive. It came with vfat fs, but I want to write an ext2/3 fs on it. All my internal HD are ext3, but should this one be ext3, also? Doesn't ext3 essentially write everything twice, first to the journal, and then to the actual target location? This is OK with an internal bus interface from the CPU to the HD, but USB is not so fast. So I think I should not use ext3 for this HD. Is this correct? TIA -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ipV6
thanks for mentioning routing problem, started in the front and found a fw i had forgotten all about. lø., 07.03.2009 kl. 18.24 +0100, skrev Øystein Dale: > > > > Again - you should look into that routing problem, there's something > > wrong there. Anyway, this should work as a temporary hotfix for you. > > > > Sjors > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Why did you chose Debian over CentOS?
Joe McDonagh wrote: At the risk of starting a huge religious war: 1. Preseed vs. kickstart If you're only running at home or only a few machines at work, you're not going to run into this. Once you're done a RH install a .ks file is dropped under /root. You can now use this file to kickstart identical machines in PXE in a couple of minutes. There is no such automatic generation in Debian. You have to create the preseed by hand, and testing a preseed file isn't so fun as you need to pretty much reboot -> test over and over after you change stuff. 2. The disarray of configuration files vs centralized system config dir In RH you have /etc/sysconfig. Almost every single system configuration file is under here. In Debian, anything goes. 3. RPM vs DPKG query subsystem. No, not yum vs. apt-get or aptitude or aptsomethingelse. To find information with dpkg seems difficult and unwieldy. Example: Say you want to find what package a specific file belongs to. With dpkg you should a dpkg-query -s to search the cache. I don't like that. I just want to know what package a given file on the filesystem belongs to. rpm -qf $FILE, done. The query system is general in rpm is simple yet robust. dpkg-query just doesn't do it for me. And I also don't like how there are a bunch of dpkg-* files that split up various functions of the dpkg system. Before all of Debian users pass a brick, this is mostly preference, except #1 is pretty hard to deny that RH makes your life a *lot* easier in that dept. Stefan Monnier wrote: it's pretty flawless. And I do agree about the ease of dist-> new dist in-place upgrades. I just find that my most common tasks are simply easier on RHEL/CentOS. I'm curious: which tasks are these, and in which way are they made easier? [ to give you some context: I only admin my own 4-5 home machines and have only vaguely used RedHat a bit some 10 years ago. I use Debian mostly because they better agreed with my view of the world back when I got to choose. ] Stefan 1. Preseed vs Kickstart There is a log of the install which one can use to configure Preseed. Also given some time the D-I team will surely cover this, if not already. From experience, if you take the time to configure your Preseed file correctly and proof it then one install is all that is needed and there is no need for constant re-testing and re-booting. 2. Configuration files in Debian are under "/etc" either filed there or under a subdirectory. 3. RPM vs DPKG query subsystem dpkg-query does not search the cache. It gets its information from the dpkg database. "dpkg-query -S filename" will list the package that a file belongs to. How much simpler can it get using a console command! Is it not logical to split up subsystems so that you can chose which subsystems you want to install and which you don't. Modularity simplifies maintenance and troubleshooting. To avoid as you put it '...Debian users pass a brick...' making accurate statements would help. A good place to start looking for accurate information on Debian is the Debian website, Debian Wiki and books such as The Debian Bible. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
2009/3/7 Wendell Cochran : >> Date: Fri Mar 6 11:06:29 2009 >> From: Joe McDonagh >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > >>> Hey Steve, I love that just by typing up here above e-mails I can >>> make smug users like you go postal. I feel powerful. > > > Top-posting inconveniences almost everyone -- not only Steve Lamb. > Do you know who it will inconvenience the most? Joe McDonagh. Because now that he gloats that he is a troll, when he needs help nobody will help him. This mailing list is a community effort, and those who don't want to be a part of the community, don't have to be. That's what killfiles are for. http://what-is-what.com/what_is/top_posting.html -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü
Re: ipV6
thanks lø., 07.03.2009 kl. 18.20 +0100, skrev Sjors Gielen: > Øystein Dale schreef: > > Debian it self is very slow on downloading files, so i wish to stop the > > tcp/ip V6 support and just have the V4 in use as i have done for faster > > browsing in both iceweasel and epiphany, since V6 is not supported all > > over the nett yet > > > > Ø.Dale > > There must be some kind of routing problem. For websites that do not > currently support v6, v4 is used automatically. If you are sure you > don't want IPv6 support in your system, add this line to > /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: > > blacklist ipv6 > > Then, to make the changes apply directly without a reboot, run: > # modprobe -r ipv6 > > Again - you should look into that routing problem, there's something > wrong there. Anyway, this should work as a temporary hotfix for you. > > Sjors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ipV6
Øystein Dale schreef: Debian it self is very slow on downloading files, so i wish to stop the tcp/ip V6 support and just have the V4 in use as i have done for faster browsing in both iceweasel and epiphany, since V6 is not supported all over the nett yet Ø.Dale There must be some kind of routing problem. For websites that do not currently support v6, v4 is used automatically. If you are sure you don't want IPv6 support in your system, add this line to /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist: blacklist ipv6 Then, to make the changes apply directly without a reboot, run: # modprobe -r ipv6 Again - you should look into that routing problem, there's something wrong there. Anyway, this should work as a temporary hotfix for you. Sjors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ipV6
Debian it self is very slow on downloading files, so i wish to stop the tcp/ip V6 support and just have the V4 in use as i have done for faster browsing in both iceweasel and epiphany, since V6 is not supported all over the nett yet Ø.Dale lø., 07.03.2009 kl. 18.07 +0100, skrev Sjors Gielen: > Øystein Dale schreef: > > Can any one tell me how i can remove/disable ipV6 in Debian with Gnome > > > > Ø.Dale > > > > > > Remove IPv6? First of all, why? Second, from where? > > Sjors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: ipV6
Øystein Dale schreef: Can any one tell me how i can remove/disable ipV6 in Debian with Gnome Ø.Dale Remove IPv6? First of all, why? Second, from where? Sjors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
ipV6
Can any one tell me how i can remove/disable ipV6 in Debian with Gnome Ø.Dale -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
Stephan Seitz schreef: On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:24:05AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Outlook as an excuse for top-posting went out the window circa 2002. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ If I understand this well enough, quotefix won’t work if you are using Word as an editor for mails. This is done quite often, because Word provides on-the-fly spelling checks. Shade and sweet water! Stephan IIRC, Outlook uses the same backend/whatever they call that for editing as Word, i.e. you don't need to write e-mails with Word because Outlook provides those same functionalities. Not sure though, I haven't used Outlook in ages. User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.19 (Windows/20081209) Or the same client on Linux. :) Sjors -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 12:24:05AM -0800, Steve Lamb wrote: Outlook as an excuse for top-posting went out the window circa 2002. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ If I understand this well enough, quotefix won’t work if you are using Word as an editor for mails. This is done quite often, because Word provides on-the-fly spelling checks. Shade and sweet water! Stephan -- | Stephan Seitz E-Mail: s...@fsing.rootsland.net | | PGP Public Keys: http://fsing.rootsland.net/~stse/pgp.html | signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Location of icons
On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 21:27 -0800, Michael M. Moore wrote: > mond wrote: > > On Mar 6, 3:30 pm, Frank wrote: > >> On Fri, 2009-03-06 at 21:57 +0100, Thierry Chatelet wrote: > >>> On 6 March 2009 21:52:23 Frank McCormick wrote: > Looking at my transparent panel in Debian Squeeze I noticed there are a > few icons which are not really suitable...that is they are surrounded by > white backgrounds. I'd like to modify them.especially the one > representing "show the desktop". Can anyone tell me where in the > directory structure they might be found? > Thanks > >>> Gnome, KDE, others? > >> Oh, yes, sorry. Gnome. > >> > > > > I think it is related to icon theme and gtk+ theme too. I know some > > pixmap theme has this kind of problem due to some unclear description > > in gtk file. > > I believe most icons are somewhere in /usr/share/. I don't have GNOME > installed anymore, so I can't check. They might be under > /usr/share/gnome/icons/ or /usr/share/icons/gnome. Some packages have > their own icon directories, like /usr/share/iceweasel/icons or > /usr/share/metacity/icons. > > Do 'locate -b icons' and you should find most of your icon directories. That found 'em alright. Now I just have to figure out which icon it uses :) Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
aptitude error on Lenny
Hi, Package: aptitude Version: 0.4.11.11-1~lenny1 I have installed Debian GNU/Linux Lenny from the first Installation CD on a PC with K6 microprocessor. The locale is Hungarian. The kernel is: linux-image-2.6.26-1-486 After I edited the sources.list and add a debian mirror, I run 'aptitude update' but get the message: 'Illegal instruction'. After that I can't to use aptitude anymore, nor apt-get anymore. If I chnage back the state of the file hashing (#) the lines with debian mirror, and run again 'aptitude update' I can to use aptitude again. I have only the first Installation CD and want to use network to install other packages. Is this a bug and how can I solve this problem? PS.: I tried out to produce this error when have installed Debian Lenny with locale English too and get the same error message. Now I have again the good old Debian Etch system on this box. Does it mean that that I can't to install Lenny on this box at all? -- Regards, Paul Csanyi http://www.freewebs.com/csanyi-pal/index.htm -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Old PHP on new Debian
* Pet: > I'd like to install newest version of Debian available, but with one > of older releases of PHP (5.1.6). Is it possible? How can I accomplish > this? For a while, PHP 5.1.6 hasn't been available in a released Debian distribution. Could you post your /etc/apt/sources.list file? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Old PHP on new Debian
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 1:37 PM, Andrew Malcolmson wrote: > On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Stephan wrote: >> Install the version of Debian you'd like (Lenny I assume, unless you're >> looking for unstable or volatile versions) then >> >> aptitude remove php5 >> >> then install the version of php you want. >> >> Pet wrote: >>> >>> Hi all, >>> >>> I'd like to install newest version of Debian available, but with one >>> of older releases of PHP (5.1.6). Is it possible? How can I accomplish >>> this? > > I believe this version would have been released under Sarge. > Searching packages.debian.org doesn't help as it doesn't search back > further than 'oldstable' or Etch. > > I see my mirror no longer provides Sarge package lists. > > Maybe the OP should download this older version from the PHP site and > unpack to /usr/local. > > I've installed Lenny without PHP and then compiled the needed version from sources. > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Configuring fallback font.
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 07:03:18AM +0200, Dotan Cohen wrote: > How does one configure the fallback font for the OS to use when the > currently-selected font does not have a particular character glyph? #1 install required fonts #2 configure fontconfig selection order with using "~/.fonts.conf". http://people.debian.org/~osamu/pub/getwiki/html/ch08.en.html#fontsinthexwindow Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can one install "lenny" from live cd's ?
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 12:03:46PM +0100, baldyeti wrote: > I must have been looking in the wrong places, but I can't figure out > whether this is possible and supported. Beta notes said the release > version would include the installer but it certainly isn't prominently > featured and easy to activate in the KDE flavour I downloaded... > I'm pretty sure you can Debootstrap an installation, and do everything by hand. Just read through the debootstrap(8) man page. -- http://pobega.wordpress.com http://identica/pobega -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Old PHP on new Debian
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:59 AM, Stephan wrote: > Install the version of Debian you'd like (Lenny I assume, unless you're > looking for unstable or volatile versions) then > > aptitude remove php5 > > then install the version of php you want. > > Pet wrote: >> >> Hi all, >> >> I'd like to install newest version of Debian available, but with one >> of older releases of PHP (5.1.6). Is it possible? How can I accomplish >> this? I believe this version would have been released under Sarge. Searching packages.debian.org doesn't help as it doesn't search back further than 'oldstable' or Etch. I see my mirror no longer provides Sarge package lists. Maybe the OP should download this older version from the PHP site and unpack to /usr/local. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Can one install "lenny" from live cd's ?
On Fri, 27 Feb 2009, baldyeti wrote: I must have been looking in the wrong places, but I can't figure out whether this is possible and supported. Beta notes said the release version would include the installer but it certainly isn't prominently featured and easy to activate in the KDE flavour I downloaded... I have just had a look on the list, and can't find any reply to the above message. I have the GNOME version, and can't find any way of installing from it. I assume that the Live CD is not installable. Unfortunate. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
Tzafrir Cohen wrote: > Top-posting works great in places where you have a common archive and > thus don't have to carry the full context in your message. Er, what? Top-posting requires you to carry the *full* context of the entire thread in every message! -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
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Re: top-posting
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 02:18:47AM -0500, Daryl Styrk wrote: > I myself don't care for top posting. It just tosses a wrench in a > nicely flowing thread. I have started playing around with mutt the last > week or so, and I now appreciate how netiquette has come to be. > Specifically to mailing lists. Top posting, HTML, 2-3 pages of quoted > text to see "Thanks that did it" etc. To protect yourself from such evils: aptitude install t-prot -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
On Fri, Mar 06, 2009 at 06:01:34PM -0700, Paul E Condon wrote: > > There is a big world out there beyond the confines of the Debian > lists. There is a lot of top posting out there. It must be easy for > twits to come to believe that top posting is always, and everywhere, > OK. And that people who object are fair game for intimidation. and > ridicule, but --- here on Debian lists is a special place. Here is a > place for people who are above the common herd. And. no, this is not > sarcasm. Top-posting works great in places where you have a common archive and thus don't have to carry the full context in your message. -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Key appears to be held down
Hello. Using lenny amd64 on a BenQ JoyBook S32B laptop. Roughly once per hour, the system starts to generate the '6' character repeatedly, as if it is pressed down, although it isn't, and this doesn't happen on Windows Vista x64 dual-booting on the same machine. Usually I can "release" the key by pressing any other key, but sometimes it is just stuck and nothing stops it save for a reboot. This happens in X11. It might also affect the console, but I don't normally work there so I can't tell. This problem also existed in etch-and-a-half amd64, previously installed on the same machine. Any ideas? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
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From mail to smtp.......
My ISP moved from "mail" on the server for sending emails to "smtp" Since the change I can send emails to everyone except my own email address with Kmail and Thunderbird but have no problem sending emails to all others ***and*** my own email address with Claws-Mail? What am I missing? My ISP techs can't work it out. If anyone has an idea what I might have mis-configured, any help appreciated. TIA Charlie -- Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Winters first snow-ah- just barely enough to tilt the daffodil. ...Anon *** Debian, just the best way to create magic ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
karun wrote: > Top Posting is an unfortunate side effect, of Microsoft Outlook becoming > the standard for non Opensource computer software users. Outlook as an excuse for top-posting went out the window circa 2002. http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ Also the base Outlook can be configured to make interleave responses possible. Not pretty, mind, but possible. Having been forced to use Lookout! at work for the past several years I do know that much. ;) -- Steve C. Lamb | But who can decide what they dream PGP Key: 1FC01004 | and dream I do ---+- signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: top-posting
On Sat, Mar 07, 2009 at 08:32:27AM +0100, karun wrote: > Top Posting is an unfortunate side effect, of Microsoft Outlook becoming > the standard for non Opensource computer software users. Actually, I'd say it was a side-effect of pine in the unix world and any graphical client everywhere else. I'm not really suprised. There are few editors around that make proper quoting easy. I can only think of vim, really. Anything else I've used, especially graphical editors, make it a pain. Then there are the quoting methods some email clients use, esp those that focus on html. Astoundingly annoying. And THEN we have knobs like those on hotmail. They wont even give you access to the quoted text. They just have it dangling at the end of your email like a poorly processed turd. Meh. -- "A search of his car uncovered pornography, a homemade sex aid, women's stockings and a Jack Russell terrier." - http://www.news.com.au/story/0%2C27574%2C24675808-421%2C00.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: top-posting
On Sat, Mar 7, 2009 at 8:32 AM, karun wrote: > Top Posting is an unfortunate side effect, of Microsoft Outlook becoming > the standard for non Opensource computer software users. Well, Google with Gmail certainly aren't helping. I also thoroughly loathe answers in the form "my response in green below", where the Outlook users have tried to answer each point in turn, but failed in the point that Outlook doesn't make this easy for the rest of us. Usually, top posting is a sign that the poster might as well not have quoted the original text at all, since the quoted text rarely aids in understanding. I agree, though, that complaining publicly on a mailing list regarding one part's choice of quoting or not usually is bad netiquette. -- Jan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
