Re: installation personnalise de debian
Bonjour, Le samedi 11 avril 2009, Etienne CROMBEZ a écrit... De plus sachant que c'est un vieux portable, quelle version me conseillez vous de prendre ? Je pensais me tourner vers etch voire sarge Ma fille a également un vieux portable Dell Latitude, un p3, il doit avoir à peu près cet âge là, et il y a Squeeze dessus. -- jm A.E.L. Sarl (R.C.S CASTRES 490843240) http://www.spidboutic.fr -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: html to pdf
salut, Johan Dindaine wrote: Il y a HTMLDOC qui permet de faire cela en ligne de commande exact, et il est même très bien fait pour des pages html simples, je viens de tester. Malheureusement, comme les autres outils, il ne prends pas en charge correctement tout le css. Cependant, la prise en charge css2 verra le jour dans la branche 2.0: http://www.htmldoc.org/str.php?L127+P0+S-2+C0+I0+E0+M10+Qcss a+ f. Le 10 avril 2009 16:33, fabrice régnier regnier@free.fr mailto:regnier@free.fr a écrit : Magnifique extension ! Je confirme! mon problème est à moitié résolu. Reste à installer ff sur un serveur sans X (là je rêve). Je suis regonflé à bloc. J'applaudirais bien cette trouvaille mais vous m'entendriez pas et je passerais pour un idiot :) hum, il m'a semblé entendre un clapi-clapo dans le lointain ;) f. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org mailto:debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org mailto:listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: installation personnalise de debian
Stosse Florian elucubrated on 2009-04-11: Le 11/04/2009 01:59, Etienne CROMBEZ a écrit : Je me demandais donc pour faciliter l'installation, s'il était possible que je me fasse un CD d'installation personalisé avec uniquement les paquets qui me semblent necessaire et leur dependance (X.org xfce iceweasel openoffice etc si vous avez plus léger pour une utilisation bureautique classique je suis preneur) De plus sachant que c'est un vieux portable, quelle version me conseillez vous de prendre ? Je pensais me tourner vers etch voire sarge Pense à AbiWord à la place de OpenOffice, pour du traitement de texte ça fait parfaitement l'affaire. Iceweasel peut être remplacé par Opera (Attention, non libre par contre) qui est un poil plus léger. Effectivement Abiword est plus léger, penser également à Gnumeric comme tableur et à Epiphany comme navigateur web (libre)... Il existe déjà un CD numéro 1 d'installation pour etch avec XFCE, Abiword et tout un tas de paquets usuels et légers, il est suffisant pour une installation bureautique légère. Le lien vers le torrent pour etch est : http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/5.0.0/i386/bt-cd/debian-500-i386-xfce+lxde-CD-1.iso.torrent En termes de distribution, je te conseilles la plus récente possible, car le noyau sera plus à jour et tu auras moins de difficultés avec les modems et autres, ensuite, il suffit d'éviter les logiciels un peu trop lourds, et de favoriser la solution la plus simple qui fait le boulot. Élie -- Programmer en francais est plus rapide car notre cerveau parle francais depuis la naissance et ne doit donc pas convertir. -- Jayce - Évidemment, en allemand c'est plus dur. -- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: installation personnalise de debian
Elie HD a écrit, samedi 11 avril 2009, à 12:38 : [...] En termes de distribution, je te conseilles la plus récente possible, car le noyau sera plus à jour Avec une vieille machine, ce n'est pas toujours souhaitable : j'ai un portable de 2001, très bien supporté sous Etch --- mais tous les noyaux essayés postérieurs au 2.6.18 plantent à l'hibernation, tant sur disque qu'en mémoire... et tu auras moins de difficultés avec les modems et autres, Vu le prix d'un modem ADSL Ethernet, ce n'est peut-être pas la peine de s'acharner sur cette *...@£! d'usb ... ensuite, il suffit d'éviter les logiciels un peu trop lourds, et de favoriser la solution la plus simple qui fait le boulot. +1 Pour naviguer léger, j'utilise w3m (et il suffit d'appuyer sur M pour ouvrir la même page dans Iceweasel si besoin (2M et 3M permettant de lancer d'autres brouteurs)). -- Jacques L'helgoualc'h -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: installation personnalise de debian
En cette nuit agitée du samedi 11 avril 2009, Etienne CROMBEZ etienne.crom...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour, Bonjour, (X.org xfce iceweasel openoffice etc si vous avez plus léger pour une utilisation bureautique classique je suis preneur) Si xfce est trop lourd tu peux teste LXDE. Tu peux aussi troquer le gestionnaire de connexion de gnome gdm par slim, beaucoup plus léger. Pour le navigateur regarde du côté de Midori ; Abiword et Gnumeric peuvent remplacer en partie OpenOffice. Si le modem pose problème, tu peux regarder du côté de usbadslmodemmanager (http://www.squeezedonkey.com/wiki/linux/index.php?title=Main_Page ), qui n'est pas dans les paquets mais assez pratique tout de même. De plus sachant que c'est un vieux portable, quelle version me conseillez vous de prendre ? Si Lenny marche, pourquoi s'en priver ? Adrien -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Liste Debian et recommandation
Bonjour, Qui pourrait m'expliquer en quoi ajouter le mot spam dans le champ From ou Reply-to a une influence pour éviter le spam ? Je ne comprend pas bien cette suggestion ajoutée en pied de page ... Merci pour vos explications éventuelles. Bon week-end Bertrand -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Liste Debian et recommandation
Le Sat, 11 Apr 2009 19:02:08 +0200 BmailDB bmai...@free.fr a écrit: Bonjour, Qui pourrait m'expliquer en quoi ajouter le mot spam dans le champ From ou Reply-to a une influence pour éviter le spam ? Je ne comprend pas bien cette suggestion ajoutée en pied de page ... Merci pour vos explications éventuelles. Il y a deux trois ans, un vers sévissait, il récupérait les adresses emails sur les serveurs de news et s'envoyait. Comme beaucoup de robots, quand le mot spam était dans une adresse, le vers sautait cette adresse plutôt que d'essayer de virer le suffixe supposé ajouté. Le rythme de vers étant de 200 messages reçus à l'heure, la directive a été mise dans le pied de page. J'ajoute que par ailleurs, en ayant anti-spam dans mon adresse, il est clair que je ne veux pas de courriers publicitaires. François Boisson -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Liste Debian et recommandation
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 07:02:08PM +0200, BmailDB wrote: Bonjour, Qui pourrait m'expliquer en quoi ajouter le mot spam dans le champ From ou Reply-to a une influence pour éviter le spam ? Il y a longtemps, un ver dont j'ai oublié le nom spammait toutes les adresses qu'il trouvait sur la liste, sauf si elles contenaient le mot spam. Le sang des contributeurs ne fit qu'un tour et ils ajoutèrent tous spam dans l'adresse qu'ils utilisaient pour poster sur la liste. Puis le ver disparu, mais les contributeurs oublièrent de retirer le spam, car il n'avait aucune incidence sur leur vie. Les années passèrent, et les nouveaux venu sur la liste se demandaient à quoi ça pouvait bien servir... Y. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: sid : nouveau xorg et keycode
giggz, samedi 11 avril 2009, 01:43:39 CEST Bonsoir, ’soir, Sous sid le nouveau xorg est arrivé. La transition se passe super bien. Mais mes anciens raccourcis clavier ne fonctionne plus. Je regarde avec xev et je vois que tous les keycode de mes hotkeys ou touches multimedia ont changé. Quelqu'un parmi vous aurait il entendu qqch à ce sujet ? une volonté d'harmoniser les keycode des hotkeys ? Peut-être est-ce parce que ce n’est plus le même pilote qui est utilisé (evdev au lieu de kbd), donc le modèle de clavier reconnu n’est plus le même (plus spécialisé ou plus générique)… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Xorg.conf est pratiquement vide Lenny
yoda_testeur, samedi 11 avril 2009, 02:21:11 CEST Bonjour, ’soir, je n'ai pas touché ma partie graphique depuis bien longtemps. En installant une Lenny AMD64, je m'aperçois, avec une commande dpkg-reconfigure que le fichier xorg.conf est pratiquement vide. Xorg tente de se débarrasser de ce fichier. Tout doit devenir dynamique. Faut-il vraiment installer les paquets des cartes Nvidia pour avoir la bonne résolution (1600x1200 70hz) Non. J'ai regardé les fichiers xorg.conf, d'une Parsix et Ubuntu 8.10 et ceux-ci sont pareil que celui de Lenny. Où trouver le fichier qui prend en compte la résolution de l'écran ? /etc/X11/xorg.conf PS : si cette réponse n’est pas assez précise, s’interroger plutôt sur la précision de la question… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Liste Debian et recommandation
Yves Rutschle, samedi 11 avril 2009, 19:49:05 CEST […] Il y a longtemps, un ver dont j'ai oublié le nom spammait toutes les adresses qu'il trouvait sur la liste, sauf si elles contenaient le mot spam. Sven ? Le sang des contributeurs ne fit qu'un tour et ils ajoutèrent tous spam dans Non, pas tous ! S’il n’en reste qu’un… :oP l'adresse qu'ils utilisaient pour poster sur la liste. Puis le ver disparu, mais les contributeurs oublièrent de retirer le spam, car il n'avait aucune incidence sur leur vie. Les années passèrent, et les nouveaux venu sur la liste se demandaient à quoi ça pouvait bien servir... Surtout qu’il est dit de le mettre aussi dans le reply-to, donc certains le mettent même s’ils n’ont pas besoin de reply-to, ce qui les ajoute en CC: en plus de la liste dans mon Claws-Mail et schcreumeugneu meugneu… -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Liste Debian et recommandation
Ok, merci beaucoup à tous pour vos explications très claire. Allez, ça ne coûte rien d'essayer ! C'est vrai que cela faisait un bout de temps que j'avais remarqué cette directive. Bonne soirée. Bertrand PS: je reprend et renvoie mon post, car en appliquant l'astuce, mon mail n'arrive pas sur la liste ... -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: installation personnalise de debian
Etienne CROMBEZ a écrit : Désolé de vous déranger mais j'ai peu de temps. Alors voilà : mon papounet chéri d'amour que j'aime a un vieux portable (mais vraiment tres vieux dans les 7-8 ans et c'était un bas de gamme) [...] De plus sachant que c'est un vieux portable, quelle version me conseillez vous de prendre ? Je pensais me tourner vers etch voire sarge J'ai un HP-Compaq qui date de 2001, il me semble. J'ai une squeeze qui tourne dessus (avec LXDE/OpenBox/OpenOffice/IceWeasel/IceDove pour la partie interface graphique et bureautique) Bonne soiree Fanfan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Installer une version specifique
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zuthos a écrit : | $ apt-cache policy htmldoc [...] Nous avons bien les m�mes d�pots. Le probl�me est que facturier ne fonctione qu'avec la 1.8.23 Bon, je vais chercher une autre solution Tu peux la trouver sur http://snapshot.debian.net, donc soit tu ajoutes deb http://snapshot.debian.net/archive pool htmldoc à ton sources.list, soit tu vas le chercher directement sur le site : http://snapshot.debian.net/archive/2005/03/13/debian/pool/main/h/htmldoc/ Amicalement David -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.9 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAknhBZgACgkQ18/WetbTC/oEOQCaA7BlpB0tv4pefOV0iLACX05a zckAn2gNJuoluyN0DVeTCpKc/Ho5TeZR =RYiA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Clavier Debian
Bonjour, J'ai eu un problème étrange en fin aprés-midi et dont je n'ai toujours pas la solution. Aprés une commande dd (copie d'une image image.img sur clef USB) et reboot pour booter sur celle-ci, je me suis aperçu que je n'avais plus de clavier, ou du moins qu'il fallait forcer comme un malade pour obtenir la lettre souhaité. PS: la commande dd n'a rien à voir, en tout cas j'espère! Aprés plusieurs recherches, logs , Internet... je n'ai rien constaté d'anormale, de plus quand je me loggue en root (session graphique) le clavier marche parfaitement. Machine: eeepc 1000H avec Lenny Env_graphique: Kde4.1 Si quelqu'un aurait une petit idée, Merci, -- Kad -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Liste Debian et recommandation
Le Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 08:34:36PM +0200, Sylvain Sauvage a écrit : Sven ? Non, Swen :) http://www.google.com/search?q=swen+site%3Alists.debian.org%2Fdebian-user-french J'ai encore mal à la boîte aux lettres chaque fois que j'y repense. Ceci dit, on pourrait effectivement mettre un pied de page plus contemporain. Bon dimanche, -- Charles Plessy Tsurumi, Kanagawa, Japan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: À propos de ssh
On 2009-04-10 16:48:04 +0200, Sylvain Sauvage wrote: Mais bon, celui qui contrôle le serveur SSH peut en faire ce qu’il veut et la chaîne de caractères qu’est ton mot de passe lui est bien accessible… Est-ce bien certain ? D’après ce que j’en sais, oui. Après vérification rapide du code, le mot de passe est lu et placé tel quel dans le paquet à envoyer (chiffré). D'ailleurs il est bien connu qu'un des trous de sécurité de telnet était l'envoi du mot de passe en clair. Maintenant c'est peut-être une des raisons pour lesquelles le système d'authentification RSA est plus sûr. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.org - Web: http://www.vinc17.org/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.org/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arenaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Clavier Debian
Le 14346ième jour après Epoch, k. haji écrivait: Aprés une commande dd (copie d'une image image.img sur clef USB) et reboot pour booter sur celle-ci, je me suis aperçu que je n'avais plus de clavier, ou du moins qu'il fallait forcer comme un malade pour obtenir la lettre souhaité. forcer comme un malade ? Tu veux dire que tu as un clavier sensible à la pression? J'en veux un !! PS: la commande dd n'a rien à voir, en tout cas j'espère! Peut-être que sur un clavier dynamique, la commande dd est synonyme de dureté digitale. Dans ce cas, tu as modifié le paramètre de pression du clavier. Aprés plusieurs recherches, logs , Internet... je n'ai rien constaté d'anormale, de plus quand je me loggue en root (session graphique) le clavier marche parfaitement. Précise la notion de forcer comme un malade, ça devrait aller mieux. Sinon regarde du côté des paramètres d'accessibilité, il se peut que tu aies malencontreusement (ou automatiquement ?) réglé un paramètre de durée minimale d'appui, et cette dernière remarque n'est pas, contrairement aux autres, une plaisanterie ;) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
exporter une partition ntfs par nfs
Bonjour, J'ai 2 machines (m1 et m2) avec lenny connectées en réseau. Sur m2 est monté sur /mnt (par ntfs-3g) un disque formaté en ntfs. Le montage est fait automatiquement par fstab au démarrage avec la ligne : /dev/disk/by-id/usb-WD_My_Book_575532513130303635323732-0:0-part1 /mnt ntfs-3g defaults 0 2 J'essaie d'exporter ce disque par nfs sur m1. Les softs nécessaires à nfs sont installés (pas de pb pour exporter un rep ext3 de m1 à m2 par exemple). Mais impossible d'exporter le disque formaté en ntfs... Sur m2 lorsque je fait : net5501:~# /etc/init.d/nfs-kernel-server restart il y a le message : exportfs: Warning: /mnt does not support NFS export. Pourtant dans les faqs du site ntfs-3g il y a : Can I export NTFS via NFS? Yes. There are two solutions depending on the Linux kernel version: 1. Obsolete: Use the FUSE kernel module from the FUSE 2.7.4 software package and please read the FUSE README.NFS file. 2. Preferred: Use the FUSE kernel module included in the Linux 2.6.27 and later kernels. Je ne vois pas ce qui cloche... Par avance merci. -- Philippe Monroux E 55.3 S 21.5 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Vous pouvez aussi ajouter le mot ``spam'' dans vos champs From et Reply-To: Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org
Debian Lenny, KVM, virt-clone, ERROR list index out of range
Witam, probuje sklonowac maszyne virtualna KVM i dostaje error jak w temacie. host:~# uname -a Linux host 2.6.26-1-amd64 #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 17:46:45 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux host:~# virsh -v 0.4.6 host:/home/vm/debianLenny_1# virt-clone --connect qemu:///system -o debianLenny1 -n debianLenny3 -f /home/vm/debianLenny_3/debianLenny3.img -d sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGstart clone with HV qemu:///system sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGUsing libvirt URI connect 'qemu:///system' sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGUsing self.path for VirtualDisk. sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGVirtualDisk storage does not exist. sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGclone device list: ['/home/vm/debianLenny_3/debianLenny3.img'] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGclone device size: [0] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGclone device type: [True] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGUsing self.path for VirtualDisk. sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGVirtualDisk storage does not exist. sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGsetup_original in sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGoriginal device list: ['/home/vm/debianLenny_1/debianLenny1.img'] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGoriginal device size: [10737418241] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGoriginal device type: [True] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGoriginal guest status: 5 sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGsetup_original out sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGoriginal guest is domain type='kvm' namedebianLenny1/name uuidb3ea7fc6-67c1-16f6-cb7d-7d9c65564e6a/uuid memory131072/memory currentMemory131072/currentMemory vcpu2/vcpu os type arch='x86_64' machine='pc'hvm/type boot dev='hd'/ /os features acpi/ apic/ pae/ /features clock offset='utc'/ on_poweroffdestroy/on_poweroff on_rebootrestart/on_reboot on_crashrestart/on_crash devices emulator/usr/bin/kvm/emulator disk type='file' device='cdrom' target dev='hdc' bus='ide'/ readonly/ /disk disk type='file' device='disk' source file='/home/vm/debianLenny_1/debianLenny1.img'/ target dev='vda' bus='virtio'/ /disk interface type='bridge' mac address='54:52:00:5b:4c:17'/ source bridge='br0'/ target dev='vnet0'/ model type='virtio'/ /interface serial type='pty' source path='/dev/pts/2'/ target port='0'/ /serial console type='pty' tty='/dev/pts/2' source path='/dev/pts/2'/ target port='0'/ /console input type='mouse' bus='ps2'/ graphics type='vnc' port='-1' autoport='yes' keymap='en-us'/ /devices /domain sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGsetup_clone in sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGclone device list: ['/home/vm/debianLenny_3/debianLenny3.img'] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGclone device size: [0] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 DEBUGclone device type: [True] sob, 11 kwi 2009 12:53:09 ERRORlist index out of range Jakies sugestie? p.s. Wesolych i radosnych Swiat. -- Tomasz Czachorowski -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Kernel 2.6.26 + iptables-1.4.1 + IMQ
Witam czy ktoś próbował ożenić ze sobą to co w temacie ? Wszystko się łądnie kompiluje moduł imq dla jądra ładuje się i tworzy urządzenia jednak regułka: iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j IMQ --todev 0 wywala błąd -- Oblej swoich znajomych... wirtualnie! ;) http://link.interia.pl/f2119 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Kernel 2.6.26 + iptables-1.4.1 + IMQ
W dniu 11 kwietnia 2009 14:56 użytkownik Maciej Chromik maciek...@interia.pl napisał: Witam czy ktoś próbował ożenić ze sobą to co w temacie ? Wszystko się łądnie kompiluje moduł imq dla jądra ładuje się i tworzy urządzenia jednak regułka: iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j IMQ --todev 0 wywala błąd milo by bylo wiedziec co to za blad. nie wrozymy z fusow. -- Wojciech Ziniewicz http://rfc.sunsite.dk/rfc/rfc2324.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Kernel 2.6.26 + iptables-1.4.1 + IMQ
No tak przepraszam Wywala po prostu iptables: No chain/target/match by that name On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 15:26:25 +0200 Wojciech Ziniewicz wojciech.ziniew...@gmail.com wrote: W dniu 11 kwietnia 2009 14:56 użytkownik Maciej Chromik maciek...@interia.pl napisał: Witam czy ktoś próbował ożenić ze sobą to co w temacie ? Wszystko się łądnie kompiluje moduł imq dla jądra ładuje się i tworzy urządzenia jednak regułka: iptables -t mangle -A POSTROUTING -o ppp+ -j IMQ --todev 0 wywala błąd milo by bylo wiedziec co to za blad. nie wrozymy z fusow. -- Wojciech Ziniewicz http://rfc.sunsite.dk/rfc/rfc2324.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- Wyslij znajomym wideo na Smigus Dyngus! ;) http://link.interia.pl/f211b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-polish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: montando un kiosko (problemas con iceweasel)
El sáb, 11-04-2009 a las 00:33 -0500, Carlos Zuniga escribió: 2009/4/7 Antonio Trujillo Carmona tr...@dti2.net: No consigo que el iceweasel ocupe toda la pantalla (1280x1024), la cosa es que la ventana de administración de los complementos si la ocupa y el firefox 2.0 (no el de debian, si no el que se descarga de la página de firefox) también ocupa toda la pantalla, pero el iceweasel no, incluso usando los parámetros -height 1024 -width 1280. ¿alguien sabe algo? Eso más parece problema del manejador de ventanas, ese es el que decide cuanto ocupa la ventana maximizada. Qué manejador utilizas? Ninguno. se lanza el xinit con el xli, el xscreensaver y el iceweasel (he desinstalado el fluxbox). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help!!!!!
El vie, 10-04-2009 a las 18:42 -0400, Yuniesky escribió: alguin sabe como saltarse los bloqueos de los proxy sin usar proxy anonimos Los bloqueos de los proxy no pueden saltarse por definición, salvo que descubras algún agujero de seguridad y los ataques, la única forma legal de hacerlo es usar algún servicio autorizado (http ssh ...) y montar un túnel por ese puerto contra un servidor que te lo permita. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: pregunta sobre mi red local
Hola a todos, Yo tengo una cosa así en mi casa y como equipo 1 tengo una soekris con m0n0wall. Si tienes un pc viejo puedes ponerle m0n0wall, es realmente ligero y puedes además usarlo como Firewall. Podrías incluso arrancar una virtualización de m0n0wall y probar. saludos! 2009/4/11 Antonio Trujillo Carmona tr...@dti2.net El jue, 09-04-2009 a las 20:38 -0430, alejandro García escribió: hola amigos En mi casa hay 3 equipos conectados directamente en internet pero a travez de un switch ethernet y un modem router mi problema es el siguiente al tener 3 equipos conectados a internet no tengo problemas los problemas me surgen cuando uno de estos por ejemplo descarga con apollon una conjunto de canciones se toma casi toda la conexion como podria hacer para que por ejemplo poder conectar asi los equipos: (modem router) | | (equipo1) | | | (switch) | | | \ - - - - - - - - -(equipo2) | | (equipo 3) y que con equipo 1 pueda tener un control sobre el consumo de conexion o cantidad de paquetes que lo atraviesan para poder asi poder dividir la conexion de manera igual a los 3 equipos? por ejemplo mi conexion es 1500kbps dividirla entre 3 para que me de 500kbps por equipo o no se si hay alguna solucion mejor. ya que es molestoso cuando alguno de los 3 equipos se toma para el toda la conexion y casi no pueden navegar bien los demas equipos y si es necesario compraria un equipo viejo pero funcional le instalaria debian para que gestione todo el paso de paquetes a internet y desde este, de los 3 equipos y que restrinja si demanda mas velocidad de conexion. creo que necesitare iproute, iptables no se si necesite algun otro paquete o configuracion o en el peor de lo casos que no pueda hacer nada. desde ya gracias. Tienes dos posibilidades: A El equipo1 hace la función de enrutador y hay una red entre el equipo uno y el modem y otra red la interna, si esta es tu solución busca recetas por firewall (hay muchas en la red). Se podria hacer con una sola tarjeta de red pero el rendimiento es bastante mas malo. B Solo hay una red y el equipo1 tiene las dos tarjetas en modo puente (bridge). Busca recetas sobre transparent firewall). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: mi debian en problemas
Le hice pre-boot al sistema con F12, además decidido a tirar mi debian me realice el fsck; reparo algunos archivo a todo le di s esta es la pega del fsck: http://paste.debian.net/33139/ A se me olvidadba probe con mi otro kernel y entro sin problemas ..-486 y al -686 mejoro ahora al menos entra. Si, algo espero sus comentarios y/o ayudas. El 10 de abril de 2009 20:52, Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda rasa996...@gmail.com escribió: Por tu comentario. Gracias! El 10 de abril de 2009 21:18, pizzakiller pizzakil...@gmail.comescribió: On Friday 10 April 2009 18:35:37 you wrote: Si, Julio he escuchado el golpeteo. y aveces por que entra pues? porque el disco se pega o mejor dicho los cabezales puede ser una falla electronica porque el controlador que mueve las cabezas y esta fallando y las hace mover erraticamente.. y avece puede pasar que en un choque electrico al prende y apagar el controlador funcione debidamente.. tambien pudiera ser un daño fisico en el disco u rayon por los apaganos sin previo aviso y las cabezas rayan los platos y las lecturas sean erraticas pero llega un intento que las lee como suele pasar con lso cds.. bytes... -- Juliocésar Prieto Lem - Programmers never dies.. Only GOSUB without RETURN user linux 218820. running Linux 2.6.26-1-686 i686 GNU/Linux vie abr 10 21:43:33 VET 2009 Fingerprint = 04CC 8521 D3BF EB25 7F95 7E77 BB0A 5235 8C1B EF4B -- Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda Linux Registered User #474919 Debian GNU/Linux User #143 Máquina #394093 -- Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda Linux Registered User #474919 Debian GNU/Linux User #143 Máquina #394093
Re: pregunta sobre mi red local
El jue, 09-04-2009 a las 20:38 -0430, alejandro García escribió: hola amigos En mi casa hay 3 equipos conectados directamente en internet pero a travez de un switch ethernet y un modem router mi problema es el siguiente al tener 3 equipos conectados a internet no tengo problemas los problemas me surgen cuando uno de estos por ejemplo descarga con apollon una conjunto de canciones se toma casi toda la conexion como podria hacer para que por ejemplo poder conectar asi los equipos: (modem router) | | (equipo1) | | | (switch) | | | \ - - - - - - - - -(equipo2) | | (equipo 3) y que con equipo 1 pueda tener un control sobre el consumo de conexion o cantidad de paquetes que lo atraviesan para poder asi poder dividir la conexion de manera igual a los 3 equipos? por ejemplo mi conexion es 1500kbps dividirla entre 3 para que me de 500kbps por equipo o no se si hay alguna solucion mejor. ya que es molestoso cuando alguno de los 3 equipos se toma para el toda la conexion y casi no pueden navegar bien los demas equipos y si es necesario compraria un equipo viejo pero funcional le instalaria debian para que gestione todo el paso de paquetes a internet y desde este, de los 3 equipos y que restrinja si demanda mas velocidad de conexion. creo que necesitare iproute, iptables no se si necesite algun otro paquete o configuracion o en el peor de lo casos que no pueda hacer nada. desde ya gracias. Tienes dos posibilidades: A El equipo1 hace la función de enrutador y hay una red entre el equipo uno y el modem y otra red la interna, si esta es tu solución busca recetas por firewall (hay muchas en la red). Se podria hacer con una sola tarjeta de red pero el rendimiento es bastante mas malo. B Solo hay una red y el equipo1 tiene las dos tarjetas en modo puente (bridge). Busca recetas sobre transparent firewall). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
problema al guardar claves del mail
Buenas a t...@s Estoy teniendo un problema muy extraño con el gestor de claves. Uso una extension de firefox (Gmail manager) que permite conectar, pero no me esta permitiendo recordar el password de la conexion. Si intento marcar la opcion al aplicar o darle a Ok se habilita pero no responde.He estado revisando los permisos del gmanager.jar y .js pero ni cambiando permisos a 744 responde. Alguien se encontró con este problema? en el gestor de claves donde se puede decir que acepte los passwords de esta extension? Tambien decir que la extension se guarda con usuario y grupo del sistema , no como root. A ver si lguien tiene idea que puede estar fallando Un Saludo
Re: problema al guardar claves del mail
deconya escribió: Buenas a t...@s Estoy teniendo un problema muy extraño con el gestor de claves. Uso una extension de firefox (Gmail manager) que permite conectar, pero no me esta permitiendo recordar el password de la conexion. Si intento marcar la opcion al aplicar o darle a Ok se habilita pero no responde.He estado revisando los permisos del gmanager.jar y .js pero ni cambiando permisos a 744 responde. Alguien se encontró con este problema? en el gestor de claves donde se puede decir que acepte los passwords de esta extension? Tambien decir que la extension se guarda con usuario y grupo del sistema , no como root. A ver si lguien tiene idea que puede estar fallando Un Saludo Pero... con 744 le estás dando todos los permisos al dueño (el usuario), y sólo lectura al grupo y a otros (man chmod). Seguramente la extensión forma parte del grupo mail. Yo probaría con 774. Saludos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Help!!!!!
2009/4/10 Yuniesky ymach...@dmesd.vcl.rimed.cu: alguin sabe como saltarse los bloqueos de los proxy sin usar proxy anonimos En mi instituto usan UltraSurf [1] (un programa para windows) Puedes intentar también con Tor [2], o con torpark [1] http://www.ultrareach.com/ [2] http://www.torproject.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: SSH INverso
On Wed, Apr 08, 2009 at 10:05:27AM -0400, Francisco Javier Aravena Jimenez
wrote:
#!/bin/bash
# Script para hacer tunel ssh inverso
# Por David Martin :: Suki_ ::
# http://sukiweb.net
USUARIO_TUNEL=remoto
PUERTO_TUNEL=2
SERVIDOR_REMOTO=servidor.remoto.com
PUERTO_SERVIDOR_REMOTO=22
TEXTO=echo ' ADMINISTRACIi*N REMOTA';
echo 'Se va a proceder a la conexion remota de este equipo con el
servidor:';
echo $SERVIDOR_REMOTO;
echo;
echo 'Mantenga esta ventana abierta mientras desee mantener la conexion.';
echo;
echo 'Teclee a continuacion la clave del usuario $USUARIO_TUNEL.';
echo;
echo
TUNEL=ssh -l $USUARIO_TUNEL -R
$PUERTO_TUNEL:localhost:$PUERTO_SERVIDOR_REMOTO -N $SERVIDOR_REMOTO
xterm -title Administracion Remota -e $TEXTO;$TUNEL
function helpme { echo -ne Usage:\n$0 TunnelPort RemotePort RemoteUser
RemoteHost\n ;exit; } [[ $4 == ]] helpme
xterm -title Administracion remota -e echo -ne 'Administracion remota\n Se
va a proceder a la conexion remota de este equipo con ($4)\n Introduzca la
contraseña de $3 a continuacion\n '; ssh -R $1:localhost:$2 -N $...@$4
:-) Con mensaje de uso, mas versatil (no hace falta editar el script para
arrancarlo), y en tan solo un par de lineas :-)
De todos modos, no estaria de mas:
No mandar mensajes con scripts tan Off-Topic.
No mandar mensajes con scripts directamente
Para esas cosas, puedes montarlas en un blog (El tuyo, por ejemplo
:-D)
Oh... y... Cli-apps.org is your friend!
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fichero que reaparece al arranque
Hola lista, Tengo un problema con un fichero que reaparece cada vez que reinicio el ordenador con testing instalado. Tengo una carpeta montada como tmpfs donde suelo guardar fichero temporales, por ejemplo, descargados de internet los guardo ahí antes de decidir si los quiero preservar o no. El montaje del directorio se encuentra en fstab como temporal/mnt/temporal tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid,size=250M 0 0 Desde hace un par de días tengo un fichero Vuelo.ics que contiene información de tipo vcalendar que no puedo borrar definitivamente. Si borro el fichero este desaparece, pero al reiniciar el ordenador vuelve a aparecer automáticamente. Creo que el problema tiene que ver con el servidor fam, pues si intento desmontar el directorio (para borrar automáticamente todo su contenido) me dice que está en uso y efectivamente el directorio está siendo usado por el demonio fam. Si paro el demonio, puedo desmontar la carpeta y su contenido desaparece, pero vuelve a reaparecer al reiniciar. ¿Alguna pista de cuál puede ser el problema o cómo me puedo librar de él? Gracias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: pregunta sobre mi red local
2009/4/11 Raul Sampedro raul.sampe...@gmail.com Hola a todos, Yo tengo una cosa así en mi casa y como equipo 1 tengo una soekris con m0n0wall. Si tienes un pc viejo puedes ponerle m0n0wall, es realmente ligero y puedes además usarlo como Firewall. Podrías incluso arrancar una virtualización de m0n0wall y probar. saludos! 2009/4/11 Antonio Trujillo Carmona tr...@dti2.net El jue, 09-04-2009 a las 20:38 -0430, alejandro García escribió: hola amigos En mi casa hay 3 equipos conectados directamente en internet pero a travez de un switch ethernet y un modem router mi problema es el siguiente al tener 3 equipos conectados a internet no tengo problemas los problemas me surgen cuando uno de estos por ejemplo descarga con apollon una conjunto de canciones se toma casi toda la conexion como podria hacer para que por ejemplo poder conectar asi los equipos: (modem router) | | (equipo1) | | | (switch) | | | \ - - - - - - - - -(equipo2) | | (equipo 3) y que con equipo 1 pueda tener un control sobre el consumo de conexion o cantidad de paquetes que lo atraviesan para poder asi poder dividir la conexion de manera igual a los 3 equipos? por ejemplo mi conexion es 1500kbps dividirla entre 3 para que me de 500kbps por equipo o no se si hay alguna solucion mejor. ya que es molestoso cuando alguno de los 3 equipos se toma para el toda la conexion y casi no pueden navegar bien los demas equipos y si es necesario compraria un equipo viejo pero funcional le instalaria debian para que gestione todo el paso de paquetes a internet y desde este, de los 3 equipos y que restrinja si demanda mas velocidad de conexion. creo que necesitare iproute, iptables no se si necesite algun otro paquete o configuracion o en el peor de lo casos que no pueda hacer nada. desde ya gracias. Tienes dos posibilidades: A El equipo1 hace la función de enrutador y hay una red entre el equipo uno y el modem y otra red la interna, si esta es tu solución busca recetas por firewall (hay muchas en la red). Se podria hacer con una sola tarjeta de red pero el rendimiento es bastante mas malo. B Solo hay una red y el equipo1 tiene las dos tarjetas en modo puente (bridge). Busca recetas sobre transparent firewall). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org (1)Pfsense que es basado en M0n0wall y es mas ligero aun, mas amigable, mas funciones, etc y sirve tanto en hogares como en empresas, deberias de checarlo...sobretodo si ya te has tomado tu tiempo en hacer funcionar IPtables y no has dado en el clavo. Debian es MUY buen sistema operativo, lo adoro, sin embargo hay cosas que hay que hacerlas mas simples. Proximamente hare un blog con este tipo de instalaciones utilizando las herramientas mas estables para hogar y empresas.(Debian, Pfsense, CentOS, Proxmox, etc) luego les aviso. un abrazo a todos. (1)http://www.pfsense.org -- It is human nature to think wisely and act in an absurd fashion. Todo el desorden del mundo proviene de las profesiones mal o mediocremente servidas
Re: fichero que reaparece al arranque
Luis Felipe Tabera escreveu: Hola lista, Tengo un problema con un fichero que reaparece cada vez que reinicio el ordenador con testing instalado. Tengo una carpeta montada como tmpfs donde suelo guardar fichero temporales, por ejemplo, descargados de internet los guardo ahí antes de decidir si los quiero preservar o no. El montaje del directorio se encuentra en fstab como temporal/mnt/temporal tmpfs defaults,noexec,nosuid,size=250M 0 0 Desde hace un par de días tengo un fichero Vuelo.ics que contiene información de tipo vcalendar que no puedo borrar definitivamente. Si borro el fichero este desaparece, pero al reiniciar el ordenador vuelve a aparecer automáticamente. Creo que el problema tiene que ver con el servidor fam, pues si intento desmontar el directorio (para borrar automáticamente todo su contenido) me dice que está en uso y efectivamente el directorio está siendo usado por el demonio fam. Si paro el demonio, puedo desmontar la carpeta y su contenido desaparece, pero vuelve a reaparecer al reiniciar. ¿Alguna pista de cuál puede ser el problema o cómo me puedo librar de él? Gracias Y porque famd estaría escribiendo allí un archivo llamado Vuelo.ics? Que raro... Saludos. -- Miguel Da Silva Unidad de Recursos Informáticos Facultad de Ingeniería - http://www.fing.edu.uy Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[OT]consulta sobre gpg
buenas tardes a todos. mi consulta es la siguiente. Al introducir el sig comando gpg --edit-key jpadeb...@gmail.com , la salida por pantalla es la siguiente: gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.6; Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details. Clave secreta disponible. pub 1024D/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: SC confianza: desconocido validez: desconocido sub 2048g/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: E desconocido (1). Juan Pablo Alesandri (GnuLinux user 333844) alesan...@gmail.com desconocido (2) Juan Pablo Alesandri (GnuLinux user 333844) jpadeb...@gmail.com Tienen idea porque sale confianza: desconocido y validez: desconocido?? Muchas gracias -- Saludos Juan Pablo Alesandri GNU/Linux Registered User:#333844 GnuPG Public Key ID: 8A2B7F96 --- signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
Re: pregunta sobre mi red local
alejandro García escreveu: hola amigos En mi casa hay 3 equipos conectados directamente en internet pero a travez de un switch ethernet y un modem router mi problema es el siguiente al tener 3 equipos conectados a internet no tengo problemas los problemas me surgen cuando uno de estos por ejemplo descarga con apollon una conjunto de canciones se toma casi toda la conexion como podria hacer para que por ejemplo poder conectar asi los equipos: (modem router) | | (equipo1) | | | (switch) | | | \ - - - - - - - - -(equipo2) | | (equipo 3) y que con equipo 1 pueda tener un control sobre el consumo de conexion o cantidad de paquetes que lo atraviesan para poder asi poder dividir la conexion de manera igual a los 3 equipos? por ejemplo mi conexion es 1500kbps dividirla entre 3 para que me de 500kbps por equipo o no se si hay alguna solucion mejor. ya que es molestoso cuando alguno de los 3 equipos se toma para el toda la conexion y casi no pueden navegar bien los demas equipos y si es necesario compraria un equipo viejo pero funcional le instalaria debian para que gestione todo el paso de paquetes a internet y desde este, de los 3 equipos y que restrinja si demanda mas velocidad de conexion. creo que necesitare iproute, iptables no se si necesite algun otro paquete o configuracion o en el peor de lo casos que no pueda hacer nada. desde ya gracias. Necesitás HTB. En internet hay miles de recetas. Saludos. -- Miguel Da Silva Unidad de Recursos Informáticos Facultad de Ingeniería - http://www.fing.edu.uy Universidad de la República - http://www.rau.edu.uy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [SOLUCIONADO] Solicitando ayuda con apt-pinning
On Mon, 2009-04-06 at 23:21 +0200, Javier San Roman wrote: ¿Lo que quieres es que se actualice directamente a la versión de la testing oficial aunque sea una versión menos actual (eso me ha parecido entender) o lo que quieres es que se actualice a cualquiera de las dos versiones directamente sin tener que hacer ninguna otra operación? Si es el primer supuesto, con el siguiente preferences: Package: * Pin: release a=squeeze Pin-Priority:800 Package: * Pin: release a=lenny Pin-Priority: 500 Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 100 Package: * Pin: release o=Unofficial Multimedia Packages Pin-Priority: 300 Pasa esto con libanyevent-perl (que está en el oficial y en el multimedia): #apt-cache policy libanyevent-perl libanyevent-perl: Instalados: (ninguno) Candidato: 4.340-1 Tabla de versión: 1:4.331-0.0 0 300 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main Packages 4.350-1 0 100 http://ftp.debian.org unstable/main Packages 4.340-1 0 500 http://ftp.debian.org squeeze/main Packages Y esto es lo que se va a instalar: libanyevent-perl (versión 4.340-1) será instalado Perfecto Javier, muchísimas gracias ,era esto primero. -- Marcel Sánchez Góngora Debian Squeeze GNU/Linux Linux User #382151 Est. V año Universidad de las Ciencias Informáticas -- Una amistad noble es una obra maestra a duo. -- Paul Bourget. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [OT]consulta sobre gpg
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 12/04/2009 01:12, Juan Pablo Alesandri escribió: (...) Tienen idea porque sale confianza: desconocido y validez: desconocido?? Edita la clave privada que tienes y teclea: trust Te pide 5 opciones, teclea el 5 (creo que es), donde te dice 'Ultimate' o algo por el estilo. Y luego prueba... No es por nada, es un pequeño error del GnuPG, pero está documentado. - -- Slds. de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBSeEm/YFZAuZYtJmMAQpe5A/9HcpkF/ce1qcR5ErptVT/gJ406JkD0jOP tc7wsA+79JFW7L1neqR5JiTZXwdXx92OoGIDpxW7MlgG6CPzzRKVb/33J74boTN0 2VXZwWMnP3IlZjGycYsOaL3hV0zw7EUHPEwpNr6PKNXbYdJjk6xiqQh+usfj5u1b KIuhlm7v+/5k7OpLIo7IdWLYttb6LzaWp3EQL0tFkKLPTHdGqFDmI+l28Dhv0uFo ebnQQeWZyrzqRTXrZjQlccRjk+cK3spyxu/RUyuxEr4/MVWQbb490sL00z7Y1a1n 3ShBVyc6TwN8ydpFk4O2iTSBh3jLlry9Q4HWC4anuTsiNRBgwDe7SDZIBRhlozXG 6HvM+MFkLcHwNRPFeN9qP1OIh1JF4apfEw3o+/qcr4jafUcHvLdQkbT32/feSROw TvFIamN4so2UPRB1K7ioXfy7CO3ahjbbe/wAz26n/m0e6a2FJv5WUEmEWbjKr19K tUw0QtH+iJ0ySShPfFpwGLMkhz+//a8oHRAMNz4v5rVwwBKPJF8Htuff5A2T/THO j45/3tR//euANbLS/GcmlBmg8QHw2g9VM8O4S8neGd0UHsp5IoaVJS4sMU3NTOt5 ONl/Z1NlXhNj69j6HAnvyZKSp8rt5zjbfvhX7/LDirlRJrZLAsXGXkp9scEJtXb1 LJUzNw2wgHw= =AwxF -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT]consulta sobre gpg
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 08:12:16PM -0300, Juan Pablo Alesandri wrote: sig comando gpg --edit-key jpadeb...@gmail.com , la salida por pantalla es la siguiente: ... Clave secreta disponible. pub 1024D/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: SC confianza: desconocido validez: desconocido ... Tienen idea porque sale confianza: desconocido y validez: desconocido?? ¿La pregunta es por qué salen en este caso particular, o qué significan en general? Si es la primera, sospecho que no tienes puesta esta clave como tu clave principal. ¿Tienes más de una clave secreta en tu anillo? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [OT]consulta sobre gpg
lo mas seguro es que esa llave la importaste y no le editaste ni la confianza ni validez. cuando creas una llave en gpg por defecto en el computador que la creaste queda con la confianza mas alta, que es el valor 5, y bueno, la validez la determinas tu al crearla, y como no la creaste en ese pc, o lo formateate no la reconoce. si lo quieres editar despues del comando gpg --edit-key pones trust y le asignas el valor que quieras, como te dije 5 es confianza absoluta. la validez no es importante a menos que quieras que desaparezca despues de un tiempo, pero si quieres editarla tienes que darle el valor 0 para que nunca expire y si quieres que expire un valor que tu determines, en meses, semanas, años, etc...el comando no me acuerdo, pero man gpg, jejeje saludos El 11 de abril de 2009 19:12, Juan Pablo Alesandri jpadeb...@gmail.comescribió: buenas tardes a todos. mi consulta es la siguiente. Al introducir el sig comando gpg --edit-key jpadeb...@gmail.com , la salida por pantalla es la siguiente: gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.6; Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details. Clave secreta disponible. pub 1024D/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: SC confianza: desconocido validez: desconocido sub 2048g/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: E desconocido (1). Juan Pablo Alesandri (GnuLinux user 333844) alesan...@gmail.com desconocido (2) Juan Pablo Alesandri (GnuLinux user 333844) jpadeb...@gmail.com Tienen idea porque sale confianza: desconocido y validez: desconocido?? Muchas gracias -- Saludos Juan Pablo Alesandri GNU/Linux Registered User:#333844 GnuPG Public Key ID: 8A2B7F96 --- -- Miguel Wladimir Soto Baez Estudiante de Ingenieria de ejecución en computación e informatica Universidad del BioBio
Re: [OT]consulta sobre gpg
El dom, 12-04-2009 a las 01:25 +0200, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió: Edita la clave privada que tienes y teclea: trust Te pide 5 opciones, teclea el 5 (creo que es), donde te dice 'Ultimate' o algo por el estilo. Y luego prueba... Muchas gracias por la ayuda!!! el problema esta solucinoado. Hice lo que sugeriste y la salida es la siquiente: jale...@jalesan-laptop:~/.gnupg$ gpg --edit-key jpadeb...@gmail.com gpg (GnuPG) 1.4.6; Copyright (C) 2006 Free Software Foundation, Inc. This program comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY. This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions. See the file COPYING for details. Clave secreta disponible. pub 1024D/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: SC confianza: absoluta validez: absoluta sub 2048g/XXX creado: 2007-04-26 [caduca: nunca ] uso: E [ absoluta ] (1). Juan Pablo Alesandri (GnuLinux user 333844) alesan...@gmail.com [ absoluta ] (2) Juan Pablo Alesandri (GnuLinux user 333844) jpadeb...@gmail.com Muchas gracias! -- Saludos Juan Pablo Alesandri GNU/Linux Registered User:#333844 GnuPG Public Key ID: 8A2B7F96 --- signature.asc Description: Esta parte del mensaje está firmada digitalmente
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Re: synaptic: *Não* Considerar Pacotes Re comendados como Dependências
Oi Douglas, Douglas Sales wrote: Hudson, O aptitude só considera como dependências o que de fato é dependência. Bom saber. Vou tentar esquecer o Synaptic (pelo menos até o bug ser corrigido). O que você se refere não são os recomendados? Caso seja isto, você poderá desativar indo no menu Opções-Preferências, desmarcando o item Instalar pacotes recomendados automaticamente. O problema é que o Synaptic esquece a opção, e acaba (na próxima execução) tomando pacotes recomendados como se fossem dependências -- e às vezes eu esqueço que ele esqueceu. Minha partição de sistema está abarrotada, pois na atualização o Synaptic acabou instalando um tanto de coisas desnecessárias (kde, evolution, gimp, amarok, octave3, qtoctave...), algumas das quais ainda não descobri quais são, para remover. Como resultado, fiquei sem odem reinstalar alguns programas que eu usava (como latex, que o Synaptic dizia precisar de 250MB!, na verdade eram necessários 70M, sem os recomendados). Ou será que os pacotes do lenny simplesmente ocupam o dobro de espaço da versão anterior? Se você for iniciante, sugiro que não desmarque esta opção, pois, ao instalar algum novo pacote (na maioria das vezes) faltarão funcionalidades e você acabará se chateando, apesar de considerar isto um bom exercício. Não sou tão iniciante assim, uso Debian desde quando Sarge era 'testing' (época do lançamento do AGNULA DeMuDi). Vale lembrar que os desenvolvedores do Debian sempre tentam deixar as coisas de uma forma a facilitar nossas vidas. Com relação ao Synaptic infelizmente não posso falar nada porque não o utilizo, visto que o aptitude cumpre muito bem o seu papel. Tenho que me familiarizar mais com o aptitude, que normalmente uso apenas na forma de linha de comando. Ainda não aprendi, na interface gráfica do aptitude, a desmarcar pacotes e a verificar quanto de espaço será usado ou liberado antes de aplicar as ações. Espero ter ajudado. Obrigado! Hudson []s dsales 2009/4/10 Hudson Lacerda h...@brfree.com.br Olá, Existe alguma maneira de salvar a opção de *não* considerar pacotes sugeridos como dependências no aptitude e no synaptic? O synaptic (versão 0.62.1) está sempre restaurando essa opção quando reiniciado. Hudson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Debian/VirtualBox -Iniciar Máquinas Virtuais Au tomaticamente
2009/4/8 Adriano aeucli...@yahoo.com.br Onde devo colocar as chamadas para iniciar as maquinas virtuais ao carergar o sistema? Use o arquivo /etc/init.d/skeleton como base para fazer o script que inicializa as máquinas. Então coloque o script pronto em /etc/init.d/, depois faça um link simbólico de /etc/init.d/seuscript para /etc/rcN.d/S99seuscript. Trocando o N de rcN.d pelo runlevel que você usa. Na dúvida, use N = 2. Para mais detalhes, leia /etc/init.d/README -- Max Reinhold Jahnke max.jah...@gmail.com http://maxjahnke.blogspot.com
Re: xorg upgrade in Sid causes jerky display
On 10 Apr 2009, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 14:21, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: After today's upgrade of a lot of xorg stuff in Sid my full-screen display of TV is jerky, as is Googlearth. This is on a Thinkpad Z61M. I was using the radeonhd driver previously; I now have the upgraded radeon driver since radeonhd was removed. I don't know what to report a bug report for - the radeon driver or xserver-xorg. Anyone else seeing this? I see RadeonHD in my sid repos, but if you are using radeon now I guess you might as well report it in that driver. But before you do that, have you tried some of the various tweaks? I don't know which ones are currently relevant (I am on Intel now), but there used to be lots, from specifying exa or xaa to things like nooffscreenpixmaps. Yes, radeonhd is back now but using it doesn't help. I tried various options without improvement. I notice that DRI is enabled and I thought that might be the problem, but for some reason it is impossible to turn it off - Option DRI false does nothing. There are also some odd keyboard effects now - I can no longer stop X with Ctrl-Alt-Del. This is with an ATI Mobility X1400, incidentally. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Same happens if I set the option to off. Is there ANY way to install Lenny on such laptops? Does it happen with other laptops too? Any viable suggestions welcome! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
2009/4/11 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Same happens if I set the option to off. Is there ANY way to install Lenny on such laptops? Does it happen with other laptops too? I don't have overheating problems on my Acer Aspire 5920. What do you have the laptop sitting on? Table? Can you raise is to get some more airflow under the bottom? I have a length of timber under the back of the laptop to raise the back and provide a better typing angle, doesn't look pretty but is cheap and works. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? erno hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent
On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 11:13:57PM -0500, Mark Allums wrote: Stefan Monnier wrote: [snip] As a general rule, you're better off relying on backups or RAID to handle such situations anyway. Or seen from another point of view: if it's OK with you to lose an arbitrarily chosen 1/3 or 1/2 of your data, then why would you mind losing it all instead? think we are heading ot, but to add some more info to it anyway. there are several aspects to look at. availability - mainly done by looking at raid levels manageablility - lvm / mdm backups - only way to do this is backuping up info, raid doesn't help with rm -fr / people tend to confuse availability with restoration ! As has been mentioned in another thread, RAID 1 pairs with LVM is pretty safe and flexible. The disadvantage is when adding more capacity, you have to add drives in pairs. ZFS (formerly Zetta File System) can do all this and more beside, but right now, with one exception, you have to do all the thinking yourself, it's not just a matter of adding a new drive and walking away. The exception? Very expensive storage appliances from Sun. Those run something, OpenSolaris maybe (haven't bothered to look it up), with ZFS. Of course, expanding requires you to go back to Sun. MArk Allums -- I was raised in the West. The West of Texas. It's pretty close to California. In more ways than Washington, D.C., is close to California. - George W. Bush 04/08/2000 Los Angeles, CA in Los Angeles as quoted by the Los Angeles Times signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
On 11 April 2009 10:21:53 you wrote: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Same happens if I set the option to off. Is there ANY way to install Lenny on such laptops? Does it happen with other laptops too? Any viable suggestions welcome! First, to start a new thread, you have to write a new mail. If you hit rply to and change the subject, you are highjacking someone thread. Then, yes, I do have the same problem on Acer aspire 5715z. The way out was to install by small pieces, ie: standard instaal withot desktop, then the desktop by small pieces. Now, its working OK. It shut off on some videos, but not all. Strange. Also, to install, I used a fan to blow fresh air into the laptop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Klistvud: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Does that mean that the fan doesn't turn on at all? It may help to disable ACPI during installation (boot parameter acpi=off). J. -- I use a Playstation to block out the existence of my partner. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 10:28:15 je Adrian Levi napisal(a): 2009/4/11 Klistvud quotati...@aliceadsl.fr: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Same happens if I set the option to off. Is there ANY way to install Lenny on such laptops? Does it happen with other laptops too? I don't have overheating problems on my Acer Aspire 5920. What do you have the laptop sitting on? Table? Can you raise is to get some more airflow under the bottom? I have a length of timber under the back of the laptop to raise the back and provide a better typing angle, doesn't look pretty but is cheap and works. Adrian -- 24x7x365 != 24x7x52 Stupid or bad maths? erno hm. I've lost a machine.. literally _lost_. it responds to ping, it works completely, I just can't figure out where in my apartment it is. Thx for answering. Tried that. And yes, it's on a hard, flat table top. Also tried to set the laptop on its side, vertically - no go. Also tried a big table fan - no go. My impression is, Lenny doesn't scale my CPU; well, I know from experience (happens when my OpenSuSE install - although very rarely - locks up) that when maxed out (2 GHz @ 100% usage), the lapdog (no pun intended) will overheat BY DEFAULT, NO MATTER what I do. I suppose it's just not meant to be used without CPU scaling - by design... Just as car engines won't work without cooling, if you know what I mean. Should perhaps point out that this does NOT happen on ANY other linux distros I've tried, and I've tried many - from Fedora and Mandriva to Damn Small and Ubuntu. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 10:47:36 je Jochen Schulz napisal(a): Klistvud: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Does that mean that the fan doesn't turn on at all? It may help to disable ACPI during installation (boot parameter acpi=off). J. On the contrary, the fan is at its max from the boot on. Problem is, it's no match for my dual-core Turion when running at its max (2 GHz with 100% CPU usage). I think it's by design, this laptop just isn't designed to be running at 100% CPU usage for more than 5 to 10 minutes in a row. @acpi=off. I came to that idea too, but have one important question: if I install the OS with acpi=off, will I be able to enable acpi later on? You see, I WOULD very much like to use suspend2ram, suspend2disk, CPU scaling/throttling, display dimming and other capabilities that are offered by this laptop. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 10:32:28 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a): On 11 April 2009 10:21:53 you wrote: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Same happens if I set the option to off. Is there ANY way to install Lenny on such laptops? Does it happen with other laptops too? Any viable suggestions welcome! First, to start a new thread, you have to write a new mail. If you hit rply to and change the subject, you are highjacking someone thread. Then, yes, I do have the same problem on Acer aspire 5715z. The way out was to install by small pieces, ie: standard instaal withot desktop, then the desktop by small pieces. Now, its working OK. It shut off on some videos, but not all. Strange. Also, to install, I used a fan to blow fresh air into the laptop. Thx for pointing out the thing about starting a new thread. I didn't know that. It wasn't my intention to hijack anything. Won't happen again ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 10:32:28 je Thierry Chatelet napisal(a): On 11 April 2009 10:21:53 you wrote: Starting the new 5.00 Lenny DVD and selecting (any type of) install, some 5 to 10 minutes into the installation process, my laptop overheats and shuts down. It's a HP Compaq 6715b with an AMD Turion 64 and an ATI Radeon 1200. Needless to say, I have the BIOS option Fan always ON when on AC power set to enabled, but to no avail. Same happens if I set the option to off. Is there ANY way to install Lenny on such laptops? Does it happen with other laptops too? Any viable suggestions welcome! First, to start a new thread, you have to write a new mail. If you hit rply to and change the subject, you are highjacking someone thread. Then, yes, I do have the same problem on Acer aspire 5715z. The way out was to install by small pieces, ie: standard instaal withot desktop, then the desktop by small pieces. Now, its working OK. It shut off on some videos, but not all. Strange. Also, to install, I used a fan to blow fresh air into the laptop. Thx for pointing out the thing about starting a new thread. I didn't know that. It wasn't my intention to hijack anything. Won't happen again ;) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 09:11:27AM +1000, Alex Samad (a...@samad.com.au) wrote: but the marketing brief seems to suggest that if you lose a drive you only lose the files that were on there. I would take that with a big grain of salt. Marketing briefs suggesting things without explicitly saying so are generally not to be taken at face value. Unless and until someone either finds an explicit statement by M$ to that effect or testifies having actually tried that, I will remain skeptical. with lvm you would lose any lv that has blocks on that drive Not necessarily, although recovery of a partially lost lv is rather painful. And of course raid/mirroring helps - with software raid as well as with lvm mirroring you can do it even with disks of different sizes. -- Tapani Tarvainen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: boot failure diagnostics
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 07:04:31AM +0200, Sven Joachim (svenj...@gmx.de) wrote: Running fsck is not necessarily a bad idea, but you should only run it on _unmounted_ filesystems. Usually fsck is also safe with read-only mounts. You can turn existing mount to read-only with mount -o remount,ro / -- Tapani Tarvainen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
keyboard layout in xserver-xorg (1:7.4+1)
I upgraded xserver-xorg today to sids 1:7.4+1 and my keyboard layout is en instead of de. /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg/NEWS.Debian.gz sais The default keyboard layout is shared with the console and is configured in /etc/default/console-setup. However, my /etc/default/console-setup correctly sais XKBLAYOUT=de And this is what is used on ttys outside X11. Yet, in X11 (which I start via startx) it is not de. Could someone please point me in the direction I need to look into? Thanks PS: Please keep me in Cc:, I am not subscribed. -- ilf i...@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Alex Samad wrote: availability - mainly done by looking at raid levels manageablility - lvm / mdm backups - only way to do this is backuping up info, raid doesn't help with rm -fr / Not just answering your post in particular, but I thought I would jump into this thread at this point mainly because you raised backups. Somewhile ago after looking at all the options, I came to the conclusion that raid1 + lvm + daily cron driven backups to another machine was my best solution for keeping. Fortunately, I haven't had the need to test the full hypothosis, since todate none of my disks have failed. Most problems have come from finger trouble (your rm -fr comment above), and whilst I have had situations where key data was siting on a single unraided backup disk I did manage to recover it (you have no idea how nervous I was and how often I checked the command to restore it - when I did recover it) I had the situation where I have a old server with a range of different size PATA drives - this was the complex system, and a newer desktop machine with a pair of SATA drives (both same size). Firstly, my desktop system. Each drive has 4 partitions (/boot @ 100MB, swap @ 2G, / @ 4G and the remainder (160GB drive) an LVM partion). Grub is installed on both /boot partitions separately, so theoretically (as I said it has not been tested) I can boot from either one if the other fails). Other than that and swap, they are all RAID 1 pairs (including /boot). I allocated and re-allocate Logical Volumes on the LVM partition all the time, as I balance my needs for working storage (particularly videos) and backup storage (I have a six month+ chain of copies of deleted data waiting to archive) My server is similar for boot, swap and root, but then because of the sizing at some balance, some of the rest is a RAID 1 device with a PV on top of it to give LVM and some is just a set of lVM PVs on the raw partitions that combine into a single Volume group. There is one exception to this - I made /var/log be a raid0 pair of disks - my reasoning being was this was where I expected most writes to take place and this should improve performance (I have no idea whether it was needed - my server is an old Celeron 1.7GHz, and despite being Apache, Tomcat, Postgres, Asterisk, Exim, DHCP, Bind, SSH and Rsync servers and the firewall and Internet Gateway for the house it barely has any loading above about 2%) Here, the important point is that Logical Volumes are allocated from a single PV first before the next - so failure of one disk on the none raided part will take out only a subset of the files. [I have also thought somewhat about failure modes of a whole disk failure, taking out bits of raid on one partition and bits of an unraided PV on another. I was dealt the disk sizes I had, so I just had to make the best of what I had, its not perfect - but optimal] Overnight, I run automated rsync backups that copy key datastores from one machine to another (including taking dumps of some postgres databases and transfering those from server to desktop). I'm also the admin of a site held at a hosting company, and I also back that up (rsync over ssh) to my server to. I backup my work laptop in the same way. I try and organise things so the unraided stuff on the server is backups of raided stuff on my desktop. The raided stuff on the server is operational + backups from the hosted system, work laptop etc which are not raided. I am currently planning my next upgrades - my desktop machine has run out of disk space, my server is getting old and has also almost run out of disk space so I need to plan an upgrade path for that too. I think raid 1 will allow me to fail one disk, and then replace it with a larger one, then fail the other add replace that too. The only step I am not sure of is how to grow into the new spare space (but I am sure I read an article somewhere on the internet about it). -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard layout in xserver-xorg (1:7.4+1)
On 11 Apr 2009, ilf wrote: I upgraded xserver-xorg today to sids 1:7.4+1 and my keyboard layout is en instead of de. /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg/NEWS.Debian.gz sais The default keyboard layout is shared with the console and is configured in /etc/default/console-setup. However, my /etc/default/console-setup correctly sais XKBLAYOUT=de And this is what is used on ttys outside X11. Yet, in X11 (which I start via startx) it is not de. Could someone please point me in the direction I need to look into? Thanks PS: Please keep me in Cc:, I am not subscribed. -- I had a similar problem following the upgrade - us keyboard instead of gb. That has now gone away after a reboot. But I can no longer quit X with Ctrl-Alt-Del and there are other issues with xmodmap as well. This is in addition to a jerky display on fullscreen TV, which I ascribed, perhaps wrongly, to radeon. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:28:35AM +0100, Alan Chandler (a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk) wrote: Somewhile ago after looking at all the options, I came to the conclusion that raid1 + lvm + daily cron driven backups to another machine was my best solution for keeping. That's what I do, too. Fortunately, I haven't had the need to test the full hypothosis, since todate none of my disks have failed. Lucky you. I am currently planning my next upgrades - my desktop machine has run out of disk space, my server is getting old and has also almost run out of disk space so I need to plan an upgrade path for that too. I think raid 1 will allow me to fail one disk, and then replace it with a larger one, then fail the other add replace that too. That'll work, but leaves you vulnerable to disk failure during the transition. If you can temporarily connect the new disks (or just one of them at a time) simultaneously with old ones, it'd be safer to extend the raid1 into 3-way mirror first, then reduce it back to 2-way leaving one of the old ones out, and doing that again for the second new disk. The only step I am not sure of is how to grow into the new spare space Easiest way is to partition the new disks so that first partition matches the old disks in size and create a separate raid1 pair of the second partition, and add it as new physical volume. It is also a bit safer against certain types of hardware problems. (If the new disks are big enough you might wish to partition them into even more pieces and raid them separately.) If you want to stick to one raid1 array it is of course also possible: mdadm --grow and pvresize are what you need. -- Tapani Tarvainen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard layout in xserver-xorg (1:7.4+1)
On 04-11 11:44, Anthony Campbell wrote: Try rebooting - worked for me. Thanks, a reboot fixed it. Feels dirty though :) -- ilf i...@jabber.berlin.ccc.de Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: WinBlow$ Home Server equivalent
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Tapani Tarvainen wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:28:35AM +0100, Alan Chandler (a...@chandlerfamily.org.uk) wrote: I am currently planning my next upgrades - my desktop machine has run out of disk space, my server is getting old and has also almost run out of disk space so I need to plan an upgrade path for that too. I think raid 1 will allow me to fail one disk, and then replace it with a larger one, then fail the other add replace that too. That'll work, but leaves you vulnerable to disk failure during the transition. If you can temporarily connect the new disks (or just one of them at a time) simultaneously with old ones, it'd be safer to extend the raid1 into 3-way mirror first, then reduce it back to 2-way leaving one of the old ones out, and doing that again for the second new disk. Thanks for that - not thought about it before, mainly because my desktop chassis only holds two disks. But for a short while I could probably cope with a third in an external chassis that I have. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard layout in xserver-xorg (1:7.4+1)
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:30:22AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: Hi, I had a similar problem following the upgrade - us keyboard instead of gb. That has now gone away after a reboot. But I can no longer quit X with Ctrl-Alt-Del and there are other issues with xmodmap as well. Should've been Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and that's been something changed upstream. Should be restorable with something like: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg.devel/430 With the xmodmap stuff I'm still fighting (and the now borked intel driver acceleration). Currently my old configuration is braking my left cursor key. Sven -- forevermore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard layout in xserver-xorg (1:7.4+1)
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:30:22AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: Hi, with Ctrl-Alt-Del and there are other issues with xmodmap as well. Regarding the xmodmap issue it looks like some keycodes have changed. For me the left alt key moved from keycode 113 (which is now the left cursor key) to 108. xev is your friend to maybe find out similar rotations. Sven -- forevermore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Klistvud: Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 10:47:36 je Jochen Schulz napisal(a): Does that mean that the fan doesn't turn on at all? It may help to disable ACPI during installation (boot parameter acpi=off). On the contrary, the fan is at its max from the boot on. Problem is, it's no match for my dual-core Turion when running at its max (2 GHz with 100% CPU usage). I think it's by design, this laptop just isn't designed to be running at 100% CPU usage for more than 5 to 10 minutes in a row. I have trouble believing that. How old is the device? Is there visible dust in the openings behind the fan? If you are out of warranty, you should try opening the case and clean it. Another option might be to manually throttle the CPU during install. You should be able to Alt-Fn to a VT and then look whether there is a directory /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/. If it is there, 'cat scaling_available_governors' should show a governor called powersave. Then just 'echo powersave scaling_governor'. If any of the directories, files or governors is missing, you need to find out which modules to load. Or you could try setting the governor in your BIOS. There are probably options like battery optimized and max performance. @acpi=off. I came to that idea too, but have one important question: if I install the OS with acpi=off, will I be able to enable acpi later on? You see, I WOULD very much like to use suspend2ram, suspend2disk, CPU scaling/throttling, display dimming and other capabilities that are offered by this laptop. Since this is a boot option, it doesn't persist across reboots, so you can always switch back. But that probably doesn't help anyway if your fan already runs at full speed. J. -- When I get home from the supermarket I don't know what to do with all the plastic. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Advice on raid/lvm
On Wed, Apr 8, 2009 at 9:04 PM, Miles Fidelman mfidel...@traversetechnologies.com wrote: I'm currently in my third day of rebuilding a machine that had /boot and / on an LVM volume on raided disks. After one drive died, I ended up in a weird mode where LVM was mounting one of the component drives, rather than the raid volume - with the long result being that I'm reinstalling the o/s from scratch and hoping that my backups are good enough that I haven't lost any user data. I had a similar experience a while back (an MD RAID1 set degraded and LVM just accepted one of the two mirrored drives as a PV), though I didn't need to reinstall and didn't lose any data. Still, this is certainly an area that could have worked better. James. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
The laptop is less than a year old and still in warranty. It has never been used in dusty or dirty places. And this overheating only happens with Debian (installing OpenSuSE or Mandriva or Ubuntu or Fedora works a breeze). The only other instance it does happen is when my current OpenSuSE system freezes (stops responding), ramping up the CPU to 100% usage: if I don't switch to a virtual terminal and reboot within, say, 10 minutes, the laptop will shut itself off from overheating. Hence my assumption that the machine simply is not DESIGNED to work at full throttle (100% CPU usage) for any length of time. But I may be wrong, of course. As a sidenote: I've found a thread on internet a while ago stating that you may risk overheating and even frying a laptop if you try installing Windows98 as a virtual machine, since Windows98 does not support the CPU idle instruction. I assume something vaguely similar may be going on here. Modern laptops with fairly powerful CPUs apparently rely on certain subsystems of the OS to effectively prevent overheating. If some of those subsystems don't work as expected, overheating will occur. I find it hard to believe there aren't more laptop users with this sort of problems... Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 13:56:37 je Jochen Schulz napisal(a): Klistvud: Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 10:47:36 je Jochen Schulz napisal(a): Does that mean that the fan doesn't turn on at all? It may help to disable ACPI during installation (boot parameter acpi=off). On the contrary, the fan is at its max from the boot on. Problem is, it's no match for my dual-core Turion when running at its max (2 GHz with 100% CPU usage). I think it's by design, this laptop just isn't designed to be running at 100% CPU usage for more than 5 to 10 minutes in a row. I have trouble believing that. How old is the device? Is there visible dust in the openings behind the fan? If you are out of warranty, you should try opening the case and clean it. Another option might be to manually throttle the CPU during install. You should be able to Alt-Fn to a VT and then look whether there is a directory /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/. If it is there, 'cat scaling_available_governors' should show a governor called powersave. Then just 'echo powersave scaling_governor'. If any of the directories, files or governors is missing, you need to find out which modules to load. Or you could try setting the governor in your BIOS. There are probably options like battery optimized and max performance. @acpi=off. I came to that idea too, but have one important question: if I install the OS with acpi=off, will I be able to enable acpi later on? You see, I WOULD very much like to use suspend2ram, suspend2disk, CPU scaling/throttling, display dimming and other capabilities that are offered by this laptop. Since this is a boot option, it doesn't persist across reboots, so you can always switch back. But that probably doesn't help anyway if your fan already runs at full speed. J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
sysfs not updating battery status
Hi there, since a couple of weeks ago I started having problems with gnome-power-manager on my Acer TM2303Wlmi. It stopped updating the battery power level; it updated only on ac connect/disconnect. I traced the problem to the sysfs: it appears the sysfs power measurement is updated only after a read on the procfs, but it doesn't update by himself; here's a short example: castor:/# cat /proc/version Linux version 2.6.26-1-686 (Debian 2.6.26-13lenny2) (da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Fri Mar 13 18:08:45 UTC 2009 castor:/# cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_now 2621 castor:/# cat /proc/acpi/battery/BAT0/state present: yes capacity state: ok charging state: charging present rate:38336 mW remaining capacity: 38120 mWh present voltage: 16548 mV castor:/# cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_now 3812 I googled about the problem and it appears something similar was noticed in the past, but I found no clue about current bugs or fixed in lenny for this problem. The very strange thing is that the problem has come out all of sudden and a couple of weeks ago everything was working fine. Only changes in the system in the recent weeks are security updates, and I don't remember anything power-related. Before I file a bug, I would be grateful if you can give me your opinion! Thanks! Lorenzo Masellis -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?
Here's my current backup arrangement: Data is stored in filesystems on LVM volumes over RAID1. While RAID1 presents some protection from disk failure, it gives no protection against data corruption due to flaky hardware or data loss caused by fire or theft. Therefore I have an offsite backup arrangement. This consists of two rsync backups. One backup goes to a local disk (different disk manufacturer, different disk controller) and the other rsync backup is to a disk at work. This works a bit but the outgoing bandwidth on my cable connection is low (about 0.3 Mbps). If I make a large change to the machine (e.g. dist-upgrade) I physically swap the home and work backup disks (this is the main reason for keeping the local backup too). This at least allows me to place an upper limit on the amount of data I would lose in the case of (e.g.) a fire. However, there are two respects in which I think some improvement would be useful: (1) Quite a lot of the files on my system are files I never expect to change again. I plan to write a few scripts which will tell me if a file that hadn't been modified in, say, two years was in fact recently modified. This could give me early warning that the disk controller has gone berserk (again). (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g. the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a year ago), at least for filesystems like /home. What are good solutions for doing (2)? (Please only recommend software you're using yourself :) Thanks, James. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:26:30PM +0200, Aleksa ??u??uli?? wrote: The laptop is less than a year old and still in warranty. It has never been used in dusty or dirty places. And this overheating only happens with Debian (installing OpenSuSE or Mandriva or Ubuntu or Fedora works a breeze). The only other instance it does happen is when my current OpenSuSE system freezes (stops responding), ramping up the CPU to 100% usage: if I don't switch to a virtual terminal and reboot within, say, 10 minutes, the laptop will shut itself off from overheating. Hence my assumption that the machine simply is not DESIGNED to work at full throttle (100% CPU usage) for any length of time. But I may be wrong, of course. As a sidenote: I've found a thread on internet a while ago stating that you may risk overheating and even frying a laptop if you try installing Windows98 as a virtual machine, since Windows98 does not support the CPU idle instruction. I assume something vaguely similar may be going on here. Modern laptops with fairly powerful CPUs apparently rely on certain subsystems of the OS to effectively prevent overheating. If some of those subsystems don't work as expected, overheating will occur. I find it hard to believe there aren't more laptop users with this sort of problems... So they install a powerful CPU for the marketers to get you to drool over, then don't provide the necessary cooling so that when you actualluy _use_ the CPU power, the unit fails. I'd call it a design flaw and return the unit. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 15:22:38 je Douglas A. Tutty napisal(a): On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:26:30PM +0200, Aleksa ??u??uli?? wrote: The laptop is less than a year old and still in warranty. It has never been used in dusty or dirty places. And this overheating only happens with Debian (installing OpenSuSE or Mandriva or Ubuntu or Fedora works a breeze). The only other instance it does happen is when my current OpenSuSE system freezes (stops responding), ramping up the CPU to 100% usage: if I don't switch to a virtual terminal and reboot within, say, 10 minutes, the laptop will shut itself off from overheating. Hence my assumption that the machine simply is not DESIGNED to work at full throttle (100% CPU usage) for any length of time. But I may be wrong, of course. As a sidenote: I've found a thread on internet a while ago stating that you may risk overheating and even frying a laptop if you try installing Windows98 as a virtual machine, since Windows98 does not support the CPU idle instruction. I assume something vaguely similar may be going on here. Modern laptops with fairly powerful CPUs apparently rely on certain subsystems of the OS to effectively prevent overheating. If some of those subsystems don't work as expected, overheating will occur. I find it hard to believe there aren't more laptop users with this sort of problems... So they install a powerful CPU for the marketers to get you to drool over, then don't provide the necessary cooling so that when you actualluy _use_ the CPU power, the unit fails. I'd call it a design flaw and return the unit. Doug. I agree ... to a point. Namely, I've never managed to overheat the unit by just _using_ the CPU. It exclusively happens: 1) during a Debian Lenny installation 2) during a certain type of system lock-up which forces both the CPU frequency and its usage to go to 100%. I'd compare (if I may) the situation with a car having, say, a range of 0 to 7000 RPM, of which only 2000 to 5000 is actually the working range. Now, forcing the car in a very low gear and running it at a constant 7000 RPM, how many minutes until the engine overheats? And, more importantly: how _stupid_ should one be to actually try doing this at home? It's, in my opinion, what's happening here: some runaway process or OS flaw simply ramps up the CPU to a regime that wasn't intended to be used for a prolonged time in the first place. In normal usage, leaving a CPU running at 100% usage is a rare occurence (I'm not talking about CPU frequency here, I'm talking about CPU usage - 100% meaning no idle cycles whatsoever over several minutes or even hours!). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 01:47:08PM +0100, James Youngman (j...@gnu.org) wrote: (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g. the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a year ago), at least for filesystems like /home. What are good solutions for doing (2)? I'm using rsnapshot, and given what you told of your setup, I think you'd be happy with it, too. -- Tapani Tarvainen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 03:46:31PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 15:22:38 je Douglas A. Tutty napisal(a): On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:26:30PM +0200, Aleksa ??u??uli?? wrote: I agree ... to a point. Namely, I've never managed to overheat the unit by just _using_ the CPU. It exclusively happens: 1) during a Debian Lenny installation 2) during a certain type of system lock-up which forces both the CPU frequency and its usage to go to 100%. I'd compare (if I may) the situation with a car having, say, a range of 0 to 7000 RPM, of which only 2000 to 5000 is actually the working range. Now, forcing the car in a very low gear and running it at a constant 7000 RPM, how many minutes until the engine overheats? And, more importantly: how _stupid_ should one be to actually try doing this at home? It's, in my opinion, what's happening here: some runaway process or OS flaw simply ramps up the CPU to a regime that wasn't intended to be used for a prolonged time in the first place. In normal usage, leaving a CPU running at 100% usage is a rare occurence (I'm not talking about CPU frequency here, I'm talking about CPU usage - 100% meaning no idle cycles whatsoever over several minutes or even hours!). What about a big compile? Retouching a movie? For normal usage (other than using iceweasel), I have difficulty getting my dual PII-450 to less than 90% idle, but there are things that will bog it down, and no it doesn't overheat. Then again, its a 2U server, not a laptop. Doug. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 09:58:35 -0400 Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 03:46:31PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 15:22:38 je Douglas A. Tutty napisal(a): On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:26:30PM +0200, Aleksa ??u??uli?? wrote: I agree ... to a point. Namely, I've never managed to overheat the unit by just _using_ the CPU. It exclusively happens: 1) during a Debian Lenny installation 2) during a certain type of system lock-up which forces both the CPU frequency and its usage to go to 100%. I'd compare (if I may) the situation with a car having, say, a range of 0 to 7000 RPM, of which only 2000 to 5000 is actually the working range. Now, forcing the car in a very low gear and running it at a constant 7000 RPM, how many minutes until the engine overheats? And, more importantly: how _stupid_ should one be to actually try doing this at home? It's, in my opinion, what's happening here: some runaway process or OS flaw simply ramps up the CPU to a regime that wasn't intended to be used for a prolonged time in the first place. In normal usage, leaving a CPU running at 100% usage is a rare occurence (I'm not talking about CPU frequency here, I'm talking about CPU usage - 100% meaning no idle cycles whatsoever over several minutes or even hours!). What about a big compile? Retouching a movie? I had similar issues w/FreeBSD about 2 years ago. Under compiles or system updates my AMD desktop would freeze up do to over heating. My quick fix at the time was to purchase a 20.00 box fan, remove the PC case, and set the fan right against the PC. Worked like a charm but thankfully it soon became time to upgrade hardware (and OS, btw). Since that time, I never went back to an AMD proc (nor FreeBSD for that matter). -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments There's no place like 127.0.0.1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 15:58:35 je Douglas A. Tutty napisal(a): On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 03:46:31PM +0200, Klistvud wrote: Dne sobota 11 april 2009 ob 15:22:38 je Douglas A. Tutty napisal(a): On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 02:26:30PM +0200, Aleksa ??u??uli?? wrote: I agree ... to a point. Namely, I've never managed to overheat the unit by just _using_ the CPU. It exclusively happens: 1) during a Debian Lenny installation 2) during a certain type of system lock-up which forces both the CPU frequency and its usage to go to 100%. I'd compare (if I may) the situation with a car having, say, a range of 0 to 7000 RPM, of which only 2000 to 5000 is actually the working range. Now, forcing the car in a very low gear and running it at a constant 7000 RPM, how many minutes until the engine overheats? And, more importantly: how _stupid_ should one be to actually try doing this at home? It's, in my opinion, what's happening here: some runaway process or OS flaw simply ramps up the CPU to a regime that wasn't intended to be used for a prolonged time in the first place. In normal usage, leaving a CPU running at 100% usage is a rare occurence (I'm not talking about CPU frequency here, I'm talking about CPU usage - 100% meaning no idle cycles whatsoever over several minutes or even hours!). What about a big compile? Retouching a movie? For normal usage (other than using iceweasel), I have difficulty getting my dual PII-450 to less than 90% idle, but there are things that will bog it down, and no it doesn't overheat. Then again, its a 2U server, not a laptop. Doug. A good case in point. And firefox/iceweasel is _definitely_ a CPU hog. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: keyboard layout in xserver-xorg (1:7.4+1)
On 11 Apr 2009, Sven Hoexter wrote: On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 11:30:22AM +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote: Hi, I had a similar problem following the upgrade - us keyboard instead of gb. That has now gone away after a reboot. But I can no longer quit X with Ctrl-Alt-Del and there are other issues with xmodmap as well. Should've been Ctrl-Alt-Backspace and that's been something changed upstream. Should be restorable with something like: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.freedesktop.xorg.devel/430 With the xmodmap stuff I'm still fighting (and the now borked intel driver acceleration). Currently my old configuration is braking my left cursor key. Yes, I meant ctrl-alt-backspace. That is livable with; the worst feature is the jerky TV in fullscreen, which I mentioned earlier in a previous thread. As regards xmodmap, I simply stopped using my .modmap file. The arrow keys then work as expected. The main thing I need is to disable Caps Lock, and I put a command to do that in .xinitrc. Anthony -- Anthony Campbell - a...@acampbell.org.uk Microsoft-free zone - Using Debian GNU/Linux http://www.acampbell.org.uk (blog, book reviews, and sceptical articles) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?
James Youngman wrote: [...] (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g. the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a year ago), at least for filesystems like /home. What are good solutions for doing (2)? (Please only recommend software you're using yourself :) I use rdiff-backup for incremental backups of /home: http://www.gnu.org/savannah-checkouts/non-gnu/rdiff-backup/ - Chris B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: xorg upgrade in Sid causes jerky display
On Sat,11.Apr.09, 09:03:59, Anthony Campbell wrote: Yes, radeonhd is back now but using it doesn't help. I tried various options without improvement. I notice that DRI is enabled and I thought that might be the problem, but for some reason it is impossible to turn it off - Option DRI false does nothing. There are also some odd Hope this helps: ,[ xserver-xorg-core/NEWS.Debian.gz ] | * This server update includes a patch to enable proper module defaults in | the server. A default set of modules will be loaded unless you | specifically specify that they don't load. You may do this in the module | section of your xorg.conf using the Disable instruction. Note that | this will only override the default, not an explicit Load. ` Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
On Saturday 11 April 2009 13:26:30 Aleksa Šušulić wrote: The laptop is less than a year old and still in warranty. It has never been used in dusty or dirty places. And this overheating only happens with Debian (installing OpenSuSE or Mandriva or Ubuntu or Fedora works a breeze). The only other instance it does happen is when my current OpenSuSE system freezes (stops responding), ramping up the CPU to 100% usage: if I don't switch to a virtual terminal and reboot within, say, 10 minutes, the laptop will shut itself off from overheating. Hence my assumption that the machine simply is not DESIGNED to work at full throttle (100% CPU usage) for any length of time. But I may be wrong, of course. As a sidenote: I've found a thread on internet a while ago stating that you may risk overheating and even frying a laptop if you try installing Windows98 as a virtual machine, since Windows98 does not support the CPU idle instruction. I assume something vaguely similar may be going on here. Modern laptops with fairly powerful CPUs apparently rely on certain subsystems of the OS to effectively prevent overheating. If some of those subsystems don't work as expected, overheating will occur. I find it hard to believe there aren't more laptop users with this sort of problems... I got my granddaughter an Antec cooling pad (as distinct from a gel one) to cope with am overheating problem in her laptop. It seems to work, especially when the fan is running. HTH Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Network traffic failure after installing Lenny
Alejandro Barocio A. wrote: When I used etch every thing was fine, after installing lenny... I have a problem with my network connection: I'm able to establish DHCP configuration, and DNS resolves addresses, also I can download my mail via POP and use XMPP and Yahoo IM with Pidgin. But if i try to use any other network service nothing works. When I use a web browser (iceweasel) the connection times out; when updating aptitude the connection progress hangs on wating a response (it even tries to change the ip address to which it connects). If I try to send a mail, the server (SMTP) does not responds. My internet connection is a 3G service routed via a WinXP netbook. My win can't see apache on lenny or my SMB shares. If I use etherape I can see all the connections, but no traffic except for the failure connection responses. I don't know what to do. Any sugestions?, any diagnostic to try?, somewhere to look for help? Sounds like the same problem I am running into. Here is a little of my findings: 1) Exists both on static and DHCP. 2) Same problem on an Ubuntu box. 3) Laptop works OK on different network. 4) Router Netopia 3347NWG (a strong suspect) 5) # ping works great 6) I have had SMB problems like that in the past, time takes care of it. May not be part of the problem. What router are you using? -- Jerry Perkins Home page http://jperkins.us/ + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?
On Sat,11.Apr.09, 13:47:08, James Youngman wrote: (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g. the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a year ago), at least for filesystems like /home. etckeeper. Admittedly, it was created for /etc (it hooks into dpkg and records all changes), but it should be usable also for /home. You could also use git directly if you don't care about file permissions. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Suggestions for multilevel backup of single machine?
On Sat, 11 Apr 2009 13:47:08 +0100 James Youngman j...@gnu.org wrote: (2) It would be useful to have a historic backup capability too (e.g. the way the filesystem looked yesterday, last week, last month and a year ago), at least for filesystems like /home. What are good solutions for doing (2)? (Please only recommend software you're using yourself :) Thanks, James. I myself use BackupPC (both at home and at work). To me, it's easy to setup, easy to use, and does everything I want it to (including historical). -- Best regards, Chris () ascii ribbon campaign - against html e-mail /\ www.asciiribbon.org - against proprietary attachments There's no place like 127.0.0.1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Aleksa Šušulić: The laptop is less than a year old and still in warranty. It has never been used in dusty or dirty places. That's not necessary for dust to enter the system. And this overheating only happens with Debian (installing OpenSuSE or Mandriva or Ubuntu or Fedora works a breeze). Ok. Then I would try to find out how these distributions operate the CPU (clockspeed, governor) and make the Debian installer do the same. I bet it's just the installer anyway. After (if not during) installation, Debian should operate your CPU the same way all other distros do. As a sidenote: I've found a thread on internet a while ago stating that you may risk overheating and even frying a laptop if you try installing Windows98 as a virtual machine, since Windows98 does not support the CPU idle instruction. I assume something vaguely similar may be going on here. The linux kernel in the Debian installer definitely supports the IDLE command. The only parameters of operation that I see are clockspeed and governor. Modern laptops with fairly powerful CPUs apparently rely on certain subsystems of the OS to effectively prevent overheating. If some of those subsystems don't work as expected, overheating will occur. I find it hard to believe there aren't more laptop users with this sort of problems... I really find it hard to believe that HP builds laptops not designed for usage. For me, this would definitely be a reason to return it. J. -- Every day in every way I am getting better and better. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
[Solved - sort of...] Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Based on several replies/suggestions set forth in my previous thread and on some imagination, I finally managed to complete the Lenny setup process. What I did: I found a spot in my house directly between two opposing windows and placed the computer there. Lifted the computer on two narrow (but thick) dictionaries (books), so as to free its underside. Opened both windows to create a strong air current flowing directly over and under the laptop. Improved this setup with the aid of a common household fan. Powered the laptop off and waited for it to completely cool off. Opened the lid, powered on and started the Lenny DVD setup procedure. After the initial screens, when no input is needed anymore, I put a small weigh on the lid switch in order to turn off the screen backlight. And now, the MOST CRUCIAL step in any computer troubleshooting: kept fingers crossed all the time! It worked. Now I have a working Debian Gnome desktop and - believe it or not - it actually runs cool as a breeze, it even feels COOLER to touch than my current production system (OpenSuSE 11.1 with KDE). Go figure... Anyway, a huge thanx to all who cared to reply to my initial post, especially seeing that I had inadvertently hijacked another thread... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Making ATI and Broadcom work on a Lenny laptop
Howdie! Anyone tried to make an ATI 1200 and a BCM4328 work on a Lenny laptop? I am trying to finalize my Lenny installation on a HP Compaq 6715b and have a few questions: Should I just leave the graphics as it is, or is it advisable to install the proprietary ATI Catalyst drivers (and WHICH ones and HOW)? Is the Broadcom hybrid driver still the best option for making the BCM4328 wireless chip work? Is the patch needed? How do you go about compiling, installing the driver, and making the driver permanent (i.e. load at every boot)? In short, what is your experience, what would be my best bet for the above graphics chip and wireless chip in Debian Lenny? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Solved - sort of...] Lenny overheating, preventing installation
Klistvud writes: It worked. Now I have a working Debian Gnome desktop and - believe it or not - it actually runs cool as a breeze, it even feels COOLER to touch than my current production system (OpenSuSE 11.1 with KDE). Go figure... Sounds like whatever it is that regulates the cpu speed got installed very late in the process. A bug, IMHO. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
after usermod can not su to root
Dear debian users, I used to use islanddancer as username to login to my sid laptop. and islanddancer is in sudoers file. today I changed it to zhengquan using sudo usermod -l zhengquan islanddancer I did nothing else. Now I can login using zhengquan but I was not able to su to root using the root password. also 'zhengquan' is not in sudoers file so now I can not edit /etc/sudoers to include zhengquan. Any help to save my system is greatly appreciated! Regards, -- Zhengquan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: after usermod can not su to root
On 11 Apr 2009, at 18:58, zhang zhengquan zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com wrote: Dear debian users, I used to use islanddancer as username to login to my sid laptop. and islanddancer is in sudoers file. today I changed it to zhengquan using sudo usermod -l zhengquan islanddancer I did nothing else. Now I can login using zhengquan but I was not able to su to root using the root password. also 'zhengquan' is not in sudoers file so now I can not edit /etc/sudoers to include zhengquan. Any help to save my system is greatly appreciated! Regards, -- Zhengquan Do you mean 'sudo su' is not working? If so just use 'su', and enter the root password, not your password. If you don't know the root password try pressing 'e' on the right GRUB entry, and adding 'single' to the end of the line. This boots up Debian as root. Thanks Harry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: after usermod can not su to root
2009/4/11 Harry Rickards hricka...@l33tmyst.com: On 11 Apr 2009, at 18:58, zhang zhengquan zhang.zhengq...@gmail.com wrote: Dear debian users, I used to use islanddancer as username to login to my sid laptop. and islanddancer is in sudoers file. today I changed it to zhengquan using sudo usermod -l zhengquan islanddancer I did nothing else. Now I can login using zhengquan but I was not able to su to root using the root password. also 'zhengquan' is not in sudoers file so now I can not edit /etc/sudoers to include zhengquan. Do you mean 'sudo su' is not working? If so just use 'su', and enter the I did su root.. root password, not your password. If you don't know the root password try I know the root password but now it does not work after I did the usermod.. pressing 'e' on the right GRUB entry, and adding 'single' to the end of the line. This boots up Debian as root. Thanks I will try this. -- Zhengquan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
How to set/change option for a specific input device with new Xorg+HAL
Hello, According to /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg/NEWS.Debian.gz (and the links mentioned there) the input devices are now configured through HAL. And indeed, after a 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' my xorg.conf is (almost) empty, but the relevant setting I want to change is marked as from config file. $ grep 'TrackPoint.*Emulate' /var/log/Xorg.0.log (**) TPPS/2 IBM TrackPoint: EmulateWheelButton: 4, EmulateWheelInertia: 10, EmulateWheelTimeout: 200 Any ideea how/where to set 'EmulateWheelButton' to '2'? Apparently this can be done through some .fdi file(s), but I can't find any docs as to where the file should be or how it should look like. Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Best way to install a new session manager
After installing from the default CD (e.g. businesscard) I'd like to make other session managers than Gnome available. (e.g. xfce or kde). What's the best way to do that so as to get all packages installed the same way they would have been had I used the associated install CD? Is this in the manuals or wiki somewhere? If not, would it be a good idea to do that? Thanks! Rick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: [Solved - sort of...] Lenny overheating, preventing installation
On Sat, 2009-04-11 at 18:54 +0200, Klistvud wrote: Based on several replies/suggestions set forth in my previous thread and on some imagination, I finally managed to complete the Lenny setup process. What I did: I found a spot in my house directly between two opposing windows and placed the computer there. Lifted the computer on two narrow (but thick) dictionaries (books), so as to free its underside. Opened both windows to create a strong air current flowing directly over and under the laptop. Improved this setup with the aid of a common household fan. Powered the laptop off and waited for it to completely cool off. Opened the lid, powered on and started the Lenny DVD setup procedure. After the initial screens, when no input is needed anymore, I put a small weigh on the lid switch in order to turn off the screen backlight. And now, the MOST CRUCIAL step in any computer troubleshooting: kept fingers crossed all the time! It worked. Now I have a working Debian Gnome desktop and - believe it or not - it actually runs cool as a breeze, it even feels COOLER to touch than my current production system (OpenSuSE 11.1 with KDE). Go figure... Anyway, a huge thanx to all who cared to reply to my initial post, especially seeing that I had inadvertently hijacked another thread... Even in the cleanest working environment laptops can gather dust. They (literally) suck it out of thin air and the exhaust grilles on many models seem designed to catch as much of it as possible. I had overheating issues on an MSI 1.6Ghz Turion 64 laptop that rarely left its clean hard-top surface. Opening the expansion slot on the bottom, cleaning the fan, and blowing some compressed air through the exhaust grille followed by a careful clean with a damp lint-free cloth reduced the avg CPU temp from around 75-80C down to 45-50C. The actual amount of dust expelled was negligible. Having installed Lenny recently on that same machine, I had no issues. The installer loaded the 'ondemand' cpufreq governor fine. I'd check you don't have any BIOS options set to always run the machine at max CPU speed. Linux tends to do a good job of managing the speed when set to ondemand and generally needs less CPU cycles in day-to-day usage than other OSes. The ondemand governor can very quickly ramp up the CPU speed when it's needed. And purely anecdotally, I seem to find my system runs cooler when it's running a 64-bit OS than an i386 one. I've no evidence of why this might be or even whether its entirely my imagination. YMMV. -- Mark McCorkell markmccork...@tiscali.co.uk At least you can ignore my inanity, I'm stuck with it for life -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[solved] Re: after usermod can not su to root
pressing 'e' on the right GRUB entry, and adding 'single' to the end of the line. This boots up Debian as root. Thanks for the single user method, I did usermod -l islanddancer zhengquan in single user mode. and was able to su root again. Thank you so much, -- Zhengquan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Best way to install a new session manager
On Sat,11.Apr.09, 14:14:12, Rick Thomas wrote: After installing from the default CD (e.g. businesscard) I'd like to make other session managers than Gnome available. (e.g. xfce or kde). What's the best way to do that so as to get all packages installed the same way they would have been had I used the associated install CD? Is this in the manuals or wiki somewhere? If not, would it be a good idea to do that? Use 'tasksel' Regards, Andrei -- If you can't explain it simply, you don't understand it well enough. (Albert Einstein) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Best way to install a new session manager
Rick Thomas: After installing from the default CD (e.g. businesscard) I'd like to make other session managers than Gnome available. (e.g. xfce or kde). What's the best way to do that so as to get all packages installed the same way they would have been had I used the associated install CD? I don't know exactly what the installer does, but you can just aptitude install gnome or kde. Alternatively, you can run tasksel and select the Desktop Environment task. J. -- I no longer believe my life will be long, happy, interesting or fulfilled [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Best way to install a new session manager
On Saturday 11 April 2009, Rick Thomas wrote: After installing from the default CD (e.g. businesscard) I'd like to make other session managers than Gnome available. (e.g. xfce or kde). For i386 and amd64 you can now select a different desktop environment from the isolinux boot menu (with businesscard, netinst and DVD images). For other architectures and installation methods you can pass the desktop=kde parameter. See: http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/en.i386/ch06s03.html#pkgsel What's the best way to do that so as to get all packages installed the same way they would have been had I used the associated install CD? To install a specific desktop environment post-installation, you'll have to tell tasksel which desktop environment to install using echo tasksel tasksel/desktop string kde | debconf-set-selections and then run it. Or just select the task(s) you want in aptitude after starting it with 'aptitude -R' (to avoid installing recommended packages, as D-I does). Cheers, FJP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Problems when audio capturing with headset
Hi all! I'm trying to test the operation of my headset in Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze to be able to use it with a softphone. Although the sound works with the rest of the applications with the headphone, in order to listen what I say I must put practically the microphone grazing the mouth :-S I'm using a 2.6.26-1-amd64 kernel with the following hardware of audio: # lspci|grep Audio 00:05.0 Audio device: nVidia Corporation MCP61 High Definition Audio (rev a2) The headset is a Genius HS-02N with the following characteristics: Headphone: - Frequency response: 20 Hz - 20 KHz. - Impedance: 32 Ohms / 1 KHz. - Sensitivity:101 dB +- 4 dB. Microphone: - Frequency response: 20 Hz - 20 KHz. - Impedance: 2.2 Ohms. - Sensibility: 60 dB +- 4 dB. I tried regulating several parameters in alsamixer but it did not change to much the situation. Some idea of how being able to solve it? Thanks in advance. Regards, Daniel -- Fingerprint: BFB3 08D6 B4D1 31B2 72B9 29CE 6696 BF1B 14E6 1D37 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Squeeze - Linux user #188.598 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
xserver woes (ATI Radeon) after upgrade to xorg 1.7.4
Hi, I use two monitors with an ATI Radeon HD 4850 card on an amd64 system. I had this configured and running since last October using the proprietary ATI driver I downloaded myself. After upgrading (I run Debian/unstable) a few days ago, this broke. At first, the system came up in screen clone mode, rather than extending the desktop across both monitors. I tried a few things with xorg.conf, eventually running dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg which results in a tiny config: Section Device Identifier Configured Video Device EndSection This made things worse (no graphics) so I finally removed the proprietary driver and reinstalled all xorg packages. Now I do have graphics again. However, I still cannot get the desktop extended across both monitors. I can either get one monitor or a clone mode, but xrandr fails this command: $ xrandr --output DVI-0 --left-of DVI-1 xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 2048x1600 (desired size 3200x1200) (Each monitor runs in 1600x1200 resolution) Has anyone run into this and solved it? I also fiddled around with installing the newest version of the proprietary drivers, but it requires 32-bit versions of libGL and such. I didn't find these in the archive -- am I just overlooking them? Thanks, -Steve signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: xorg upgrade in Sid causes jerky display
On Sat, Apr 11, 2009 at 01:03, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: On 10 Apr 2009, Kelly Clowers wrote: On Fri, Apr 10, 2009 at 14:21, Anthony Campbell a...@acampbell.org.uk wrote: After today's upgrade of a lot of xorg stuff in Sid my full-screen display of TV is jerky, as is Googlearth. This is on a Thinkpad Z61M. I was using the radeonhd driver previously; I now have the upgraded radeon driver since radeonhd was removed. I don't know what to report a bug report for - the radeon driver or xserver-xorg. Anyone else seeing this? I see RadeonHD in my sid repos, but if you are using radeon now I guess you might as well report it in that driver. But before you do that, have you tried some of the various tweaks? I don't know which ones are currently relevant (I am on Intel now), but there used to be lots, from specifying exa or xaa to things like nooffscreenpixmaps. Yes, radeonhd is back now but using it doesn't help. I tried various options without improvement. I notice that DRI is enabled and I thought that might be the problem, but for some reason it is impossible to turn it off - Option DRI false does nothing. There are also some odd keyboard effects now - I can no longer stop X with Ctrl-Alt-Del. That is a change that Ubuntu convinced upstream to do, to get it back: Section ServerFlags Option DontZap false EndSection I don't know about the rest, except that disabling dri will almost certainly make things slower. It sounds like a regression that affects both drivers... I guess file a bug against one of the drivers or against xserver, they can always reassign it if they need to. Or ask on the xorg mailing list. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
