Re: Splashy et Frambuffer

2009-05-03 Thread Christophe Alonso
Le dimanche 03 mai 2009 à 00:36 +0200, BRAKOS a écrit :
 Christophe Alonso a écrit :
  Le samedi 02 mai 2009 à 00:32 +0200, BRAKOS a écrit :
 
  J'ai aussi tester d'ajouter dans mon grub.cfg la ligne suivante comme
  indiqué sur une docs que j'ai trouvé sur le net:
  linux   /vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686
  root=UUID=eb9aee16-75c8-4f53-aba5-24c26148158b ro vga=791 splashy

C'est pas plutôt splash (et non pas splashy, qui n'est qu'un programme
de splash parmi d'autres), au fait ?

 
  mais en vain!
 
  #update-grub ?
 
  C'est fait, ainsi qu'un update-initramfs -u puis reboot pour la prise
 en compte, mais :-(  toujours pareil.Comprend pas!.J'ai l'impresion que
 c'est un bug mais je voudrais pas m'avancé sans avoir fait tous les
 tests possibles qui me feraient conclure sur ce fait et dont je n'ai
 aucune idées pour tout avouer.
 Si vous auriez des pistes vers lesquels me tournées, je veux bien
 illucidé ce mystère et faire mon premier rapport de bug :-)

As-tu vérifié que cga=791 était bien supporté par ton matériel, comme le
suggérait Sami Mezani ?

Sinon, pas d'autre idée...

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Re: Splashy et Frambuffer

2009-05-03 Thread François Cerbelle

Christophe Alonso a écrit :

C'est pas plutôt splash (et non pas splashy, qui n'est qu'un programme
de splash parmi d'autres), au fait ?


Ce devrait en effet être splash (souvent associé à quiet lorsque 
tout fonctionne).



As-tu vérifié que cga=791 était bien supporté par ton matériel, comme le
suggérait Sami Mezani ?
Là, par contre, même si Linux gère beaucoup de plateformes, je doute 
qu'il y ait un support framebuffer pour une carte CGA, à supposer que 
l'on puisse encore en trouver (320x200 en 4 couleurs, pour ceux qui 
n'étaient pas nés).


Fanfan

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Re: Splashy et Frambuffer

2009-05-03 Thread Christophe Alonso
Le dimanche 03 mai 2009 à 09:56 +0200, Christophe Alonso a écrit :

 As-tu vérifié que cga=791 était bien supporté par ton matériel, comme le
 suggérait Sami Mezani ?

vga, bien sûr. Merci à François Cerbelle (Fanfan) pour son mail en privé.

 Sinon, pas d'autre idée...
 

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Re: Re: JVM et declaration d'Impôts en ligne

2009-05-03 Thread Christophe Alonso
Le dimanche 03 mai 2009 à 00:26 +0200, Michelle Konzack a écrit :
 Bon soir Marc et *,
 
 Am 2009-05-02 23:06:35, schrieb Marc Siramy:
  'Soir,
  
  Mon plugin Java, sous Iceweasel, est bien reconnu par le site des impôts.
 
 Chez moi auss maintenat apres l'installation de sun-java6-jre mais apres
 je veux signer cet truck, xulrunner-bin fait un usage  CPU  de  100%  et
 j'etait incapable du completer la declaration...
 
 xkill recupere mon system.
 
  Pour activer le plugin, j'ai créé le lien symbolique comme indiqué
  ci-dessous.
  lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 44 fév  1 20:01 /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libnpjp2.so
  - /usr/local/jre1.6.0_12/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
  Le jre utilisé :
  wget
  http://www.java.net/download/jdk6/6u12/promoted/b02/binaries/jdk-6u12-ea-bin-b02-linux-amd64-08_dec_2008.bin
  
  D'autres infos ici :
  http://jean-christophe.dubacq.fr/post/Un-plugin-java-64-bit-natif-de-Sun
  (créer un package debian, openJdk 7, ...)
 
 je prefere /usr/share/doc/sun-java6-jre/DEBIAN.alternatives:
 
 update-java-alternatives --jre --set java-6-sun
 update-java-alternatives --set java-6-sun
 update-java-alternatives --auto
 
 mais il veux pas singner la declaration. grmpf

On peut lire sur zdnet
(http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/internet/0,39020774,39392867,00.htm?xtor=RSS-1) 
qu'il n'est plus nécessaire d'avoir un certificat pour déclarer ses impôts. 
Cela signifierait-il qu'il n'est plus nécessaire d'en passer par java ?

Peut-être une solution à votre problème.

Christophe

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Re: Re: JVM et declaration d'Impôts en ligne

2009-05-03 Thread Michelle Konzack
Salut Christophe,

Am 2009-05-03 11:27:00, schrieb Christophe Alonso:
 Le dimanche 03 mai 2009 à 00:26 +0200, Michelle Konzack a écrit :
  mais il veux pas singner la declaration. grmpf
 
 On peut lire sur zdnet
 (http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/internet/0,39020774,39392867,00.htm?xtor=RSS-1)
  qu'il n'est plus nécessaire d'avoir un certificat pour déclarer ses impôts. 
 Cela signifierait-il qu'il n'est plus nécessaire d'en passer par java ?
 
 Peut-être une solution à votre problème.

No, parce que t'as un certificat (valable pour trois ans), que est  crée
si tu te registre pour la teledeclaration  le  premiere  fois.  Je  fait
exactement ca, mais à la fin je  suis  obligé  du  cliquer  Signer  et
l'ordi arreter avec un charge CPU de 100%.

Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
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Re: à quoi sert /etc/apparmor.d ?

2009-05-03 Thread mouss
t...@mediaforest.net a écrit :
 Bonjour à tous
 Je voudrais savoir quelle est l'utilité du dossier /etc/apparmor.d.

c'est le dossier de apparmor, qui est une couche de sécurité du genre
Selinux. mais si on en a vraiment besoin, mieux vaut utiliser selinux.

mais attention. ces couches changent le fonctionnement du système de
façon non négligeable. en gros, il faut bien comprendre ce que ça fait,
si tu ne veux pas crier: mais j'ai fait un chmod 777 sur tel fichier et
pourtant l'appli ne peut pas le lire, mais que se passe-t-il-donc-koa?.

 J'ai bien vu qu'il faisait partie du paquet Bind9, mais je ne comprends
 pas à quoi il sert.

c'est pas vraiment lié à bind. c'est juste que apparmor doit être
configuré pour ne pas empêcher bind de faire son boulot. c'est pareil
avec d'autres applis...

 Si quelqu'un pouvait m'apporter quelques précisions à ce sujet, je lui
 en serait très reconnaissant.
 





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De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Alex PADOLY
Bonsoir à tous, 

J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1, l'avantage 
de cette distribution est sa stabilité.
Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
- mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
- upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD

Le disque système est sur sda et à l'aide de la commande dd j'ai un backup 
complet du disque système sur sdb.
Que me conseillez-vous sachant que je ne recherche pas la performance pure mais 
la stabilité, ce serveur sert de serveur de fichier, d'impression et fait 
office de routeur avec squid.

Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas d'une 
mise à jour du serveur?

Je vous remercie.
Alex PADOLY

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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 03/05/2009 à 18:45, Alex PADOLY a écrit :
 Bonsoir à tous, 
 
 J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1, 
 l'avantage de cette distribution est sa stabilité.
 Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
 - mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
 - upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD
 
 Le disque système est sur sda et à l'aide de la commande dd j'ai un backup 
 complet du disque système sur sdb.
 Que me conseillez-vous sachant que je ne recherche pas la performance pure 
 mais la stabilité, ce serveur sert de serveur de fichier, d'impression et 
 fait office de routeur avec squid.
 
 Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas d'une 
 mise à jour du serveur?
 
 Je vous remercie.
 Alex PADOLY
 
  Créez votre adresse électronique prenom@laposte.net 
  1 Go d'espace de stockage, anti-spam et anti-virus intégrés.
 

en anglais :
http://wiki.debian.org/Sarge2EtchUpgrade

normalement (après avoir fait un backup), mettre etch au lieu de
sarge dans /etc/apt/sources/list
puis 
aptitude update
aptitude upgrade
et hop c'est fini, mais mieux vaut lire la doc et les release-note avant,
si ca plante je n'y suis pour rien ;-)

Alain

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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Salut,

Alex PADOLY a écrit :


J'ai un serveur Linux (HP TC3100) avec une distribution Debian 3.1,
l'avantage de cette distribution est sa stabilité.


Je n'ai pas souvenir que sarge ait été plus (ou moins) stable que les 
versions suivantes (ou précédentes). En revanche sarge n'étant plus 
maintenue depuis belle lurette, elle contient à coup sûr des versions de 
logiciels ayant des vulnérabilité connues.


Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
- mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
- upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD


Je ne vois pas trop la différence entre les deux. Dans tous les cas on 
ne met à jour que les paquets installés (avec éventuellement 
installation de nouveaux paquets pour satisfaire aux dépendances des 
nouvelles versions des paquets).



Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas
d'une mise à jour du serveur?


Les grandes lignes sont là :
http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html

Mais quitte à mettre à jour, pourquoi s'arrêter à etch qui est 
aujourd'hui l'ancienne stable, et qui ne sera plus maintenue dans moins 
d'un an ? Ceci dit, je ne sais pas s'il est sage de sauter deux versions 
et passer directement de sarge à lenny ou s'il vaut mieux passer par 
etch temporairement.


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Re: JVM et declaration d'Impôts en ligne

2009-05-03 Thread fremoin

Bonsoir,

Michelle Konzack a écrit :

Am 2009-05-03 01:10:10, schrieb François Cerbelle:
Perso, en connaissant les compétences des administrations francaises, je  
prefere en rester au papier,

(...)

pastroll
Pour la deuxième année consécutive, je reste à la déclaration manuelle. 
Considérons le temps passé (sur cette liste, par exemple) pour, 
apparemment, compenser et une relative incompétence, et une réduction de 
personnel. Comme beaucoup, j'ai été au début attiré par la modernité (?) 
de la chose, et (sans honte) par l'intéressement. Maintenant, je 
regrette mes choix passés. Cela se fera à l'ancienne, à la main.

/pastroll

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[HS] smtp distant tunnel ssh postfix

2009-05-03 Thread Bulot gregory
Bonjour,

j'ai positionné le tag hors sujet, car cela n'est pas spécifique debian

Actuellement depuis mon réseau local l'envoi de mails ne posent pas de
problèmes, depuis mon webmail non plus (qui est aussi le serveur smtp)

par contre depuis les hôtels je me connecte via putty en ssh avec tunnel
et transfert de port (web, imap,  smtp : équivalent ssh -L 25:localhost:25
u...@chezmoi.com)

malheureusement il m'est toujours impossible d'envoyer mes mails depuis
mon portable

pour info :
tank : serveur smtp, imap
neo : routeur (linux)



=== le message d'erreur (log postfix) : 
May  3 19:42:43 tank postfix/smtpd[30305]: connect from
neo.bulot-fr.com[192.168.1.190]
May  3 19:42:49 tank postfix/smtpd[30305]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
neo.bulot-fr.com[192.168.1.190]: 504 5.5.2 unknown: Helo command
rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=moi_nos...@bulot-fr.com
to=moi_nos...@bulot-fr.com proto=SMTP helo=unknown
May  3 19:42:55 tank dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=gbulot,
method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured


 main.cf ==
smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
biff = no
smtpd_helo_required = yes

append_dot_mydomain = no


smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
smtpd_use_tls=yes
smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache


myhostname = tank.bulot-fr.com
alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
myorigin = $myhostname
mydestination = batman.dyndns.org, bulot-fr.com, localhost,
localhost.localdomain
relayhost = smtp.free.fr
mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 192.168.1.0/24
mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION
mailbox_size_limit = 0
recipient_delimiter = +
inet_interfaces = all
inet_protocols = all

relay_domains = $mynetworks

smtpd_helo_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_hostname

smtpd_sender_restrictions =
permit_mynetworks,
reject_unknown_sender_domain,
warn_if_reject reject_unverified_sender

smtpd_client_restrictions =
permit_mynetworks,
reject_unknown_client,
check_client_access
cidr:/etc/postfix/sinokoreacidr.txt,
hash:/etc/postfix/deny,
hash:/etc/postfix/access,
regexp:/etc/postfix/clientblocks,



smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
permit_mynetworks,
check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/access,
check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/access,
reject_unauth_destination,
reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
reject_non_fqdn_sender,

reject_unknown_sender_domain,
reject_unauth_pipelining,
reject_invalid_hostname,
reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org,
reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net,
reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org,
reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,
reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org,

reject_rbl_client dnsbl.ahbl.org,
reject_rbl_client dnsbl.sorbs.net,
reject_rbl_client relays.visi.com,
reject_rhsbl_client blackhole.securitysage.com,
reject_rhsbl_sender blackhole.securitysage.com,
reject_rhsbl_client rhsbl.ahbl.org,
reject_rhsbl_sender rhsbl.ahbl.org,
reject_rhsbl_client rhsbl.sorbs.net
reject_rhsbl_sender rhsbl.sorbs.net,
reject_rhsbl_client block.rhs.mailpolice.com,
reject_rhsbl_sender block.rhs.mailpolice.com,
reject_rhsbl_client dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com,
reject_rhsbl_sender dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com,
reject_rhsbl_client bogusmx.rfc-ignorant.org,
reject_rhsbl_sender bogusmx.rfc-ignorant.org,
reject_rhsbl_client dsn.rfc-ignorant.org,
reject_rhsbl_sender dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
permit

reject_unknown_sender_domain = yes


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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread François Cerbelle

Alex PADOLY a écrit :
Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas 
d'une mise à jour du serveur?


Salut,

Je suis à peu près dans le même cas que toi professionnellement, mais je 
n'envisage pas une mise a jour car le serveur est un serveur interne et 
que les fonctionnalités qu'il propose sont suffisantes pour l'instant. 
Je ne le mettrai à jour que si j'ai vraiment besoin de changer/installer 
plusieurs paquets d'un coup. Au pire, je ferai peut etre une 
installation toute fraiche a coté, je la testerai et je transfererai les 
données.


Peut etre n'as tu pas les mêmes contraintes de mise à jour que moi.

Si tu as peur de tout basculer d'un coup, tu peux toujours selectionner 
les paquets à mettre à jour un par un, mais ca te demandera plus de 
temps et sera à coup sûr plus risqué. En plus, tu risques de ne pas 
bénéficier du marquage magique automatique des paquets par aptitude si 
tu les selectionnes un par un.


Si tu n'as pas de configuration trop tordue ou de paquets 
patchés/recompilés, ca devrait aller tout seul, surtout si tu n'as pas 
trop de paquets. Dans tous les cas, commence par vérifier que tu peux 
bien restaurer la sauvegarde sur un disque et qu'elle est bien complete 
(il pourrait manquer la table de partition, le MBR ou encore le secteur 
de boot d'une partition). La verification prend un peu de temps, mais ce 
n'est rien comparé au temps que tu pourrais perdre si ta sauvegarde 
etait incomplete. Ensuite, à ta place, j'éviterai de sauter deux 
versions d'un coup. Enfin, il faudra peut etre que tu installes cron-apt 
car si les mises à jour de sarge sont terminées, celles de lenny ne font 
que commencer. ;-)


Fanfan

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Re: JVM et declaration d'Imp ôts en ligne

2009-05-03 Thread Jean-Michel OLTRA

Bonjour,


Le dimanche 03 mai 2009, fremoin a écrit...


 pastroll
 Pour la deuxième année consécutive, je reste à la déclaration manuelle.  
 Considérons le temps passé (sur cette liste, par exemple) pour,  
 apparemment, compenser et une relative incompétence, et une réduction de 
 personnel. Comme beaucoup, j'ai été au début attiré par la modernité (?) 
 de la chose, et (sans honte) par l'intéressement. Maintenant, je  
 regrette mes choix passés. Cela se fera à l'ancienne, à la main.
 /pastroll

Perso, c'est une histoire de crédit d'impôt : il y a trois ans,
versement très rapide sur déclaration manuelle. 2 déclarations via le net
ont suivi, avec le crédit servi en décembre…Je ne sais pas si c'est
général, mais je laisse tomber la déclaration par internet. J'aime bien
récupérer ma thune rapidement.


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Re: De Sarge à Etch?

2009-05-03 Thread Alain Baeckeroot
Le 03/05/2009 à 21:34, Pascal Hambourg a écrit :
 
 Salut,
 
 Alex PADOLY a écrit :

  Je souhaiterai la faire évoluer, j'ai donc deux choix: 
  - mettre à jour uniquement les paquets installés sur le serveur; 
  - upgrader la distribution vers la version 4.0r2 dont j'ai les DVD
 
 Je ne vois pas trop la différence entre les deux. Dans tous les cas on 
 ne met à jour que les paquets installés (avec éventuellement 
 installation de nouveaux paquets pour satisfaire aux dépendances des 
 nouvelles versions des paquets).
 
  Pourriez-vous me décrire les étapes que je devrais suivre dans le cas
  d'une mise à jour du serveur?
 
 Les grandes lignes sont là :
 http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.fr.html
 
 Mais quitte à mettre à jour, pourquoi s'arrêter à etch qui est 
 aujourd'hui l'ancienne stable, et qui ne sera plus maintenue dans moins 
 d'un an ? Ceci dit, je ne sais pas s'il est sage de sauter deux versions 
 et passer directement de sarge à lenny ou s'il vaut mieux passer par 
 etch temporairement.
 
en étant très précautionneux
D'abord  mettre a jour de sarge vers la dernière sarge disponible
 Dans /etc/apt/source.list mettre :
 deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/ sarge main contrib non-free 

ou sinon graver un dvd et faire la maj depuis le dvd
 Dans /etc/apt/source.list:
 deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 3.1 r4 _Sarge_ - Official i386 Binary-2 
(20061116)]/ main contrib non-free

puis seulement ensuite faire la mise jour vers etch, tant qu'a faire
utiliser la dernière etch a jour 4.0r8.

puis éventuellement mettre a jour vers lenny, mais c'est moins urgent
car etch est encore maintenu qq temps.

Il me semble qu'il faut passer par les distributions intermédiaires
(sarge -  etch - lenny et ne pas sauter de version afin de garantir
une mise a jour sans soucis.

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chroot et autre OS

2009-05-03 Thread thomas parquier
Bonjour,

Est-il possible d'utiliser un autre OS (mac os, bsd) dans un chroot ?

thomas


Re: chroot et autre OS

2009-05-03 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Sunday 03 May 2009 23:24:44 thomas parquier, vous avez écrit :
 Bonjour,

 Est-il possible d'utiliser un autre OS (mac os, bsd) dans un chroot ?

 thomas

Il faudrait qu'il puisse fonctionner avec le même noyau.
Alors Mac OS et BSD, non.

Un autre Linux, pas trop éloigné en version de libc/noyau oui.

Après, il y a la virtualisation pour avoir faire tourner un OS complet.
Même là, je ne sais pas si Mac OS s'y prette bien. Il a des exigences en terme 
de BIOS.



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Comment identifier les devices disponibles

2009-05-03 Thread Bernard

Bonjour à tous,

A plusieurs reprises, j'ai fait usage de 'systemrescueCD' avec succès 
sur divers PC que j'avais à ma disposition. Il s'agissait, le plus 
souvent, de sauvegarder une partition avec 'partimage', lorsqu'un 
dysfonctionnement empêchait de monter ou booter ladite partition. Il 
arrivait alors que je ne sache pas identifier la partition concernée : 
en pareil cas, je faisais divers essais, du genre : 'mount /dev/hda1 
/mnt/fat... si çà n'allait pas, je recommençais avec /dev/hda2, 
dev/sdc1... etc... jusqu'à ce que je trouve.


Il s'agit maintenant de dépanner un ami qui se trouve à plusieurs 
centaines de kilomètres, non linuxien, à qui j'aimerais recommander une 
procédure plus directe, que je regrette d'ignorer à ce jour. Comment, 
sur l'ordinateur de mon ami, une fois booté sous linux avec 
SystemRescueCD v0.3.7, puis-je lui recommander de procéder pour savoir 
ce qu'il devra mettre dans la commande 'mount'  pour monter le disque 
externe qu'il aura connecté sur son port usb, afin de pouvoir 
sauvegarder la partition de son disque dur (lequel ne boote plus) avec 
'partimage' ? un 'vi /etc/fstab' ne révèle que ce qui est déjà monté, 
non ce qui est susceptible de l'être. Un 'cat /proc/scsi/scsi' ne donne 
d'infos que sur les partitions scsi ou assimilées comme telles, encore 
qu'on ne trouve pas forcément les détails nécessaires, par exemple, 
savoir qu'il faut monter /dev/sdc1 ou /dev/sda...


Merci d'avance pour toute précision.

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Convertir des photos en video

2009-05-03 Thread Alain JUPIN
Bonjour,

Avec quel utilitaires puis je convertir une série de photos (717 au
total) en une video ?

J'ai essayé avec ffmpeg :
ffmpeg -r 10 -b 1800 -vcodec mpeg4 -i %03d.jpg test.avi

il me dit que le format de la vidéo de sortie est inconnu  et le
fichier est désespérément vide 

N'y a t-il pas une petit utilitaire qui fait çà tout seul ?

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Re: Comment identifier les devices disponibles

2009-05-03 Thread Sil
Le dimanche 03 mai 2009 à 23:04 +0200, Bernard a écrit :
 un 'vi /etc/fstab' ne révèle que ce qui est déjà monté, 
 non ce qui est susceptible de l'être.

Bonjour,
/etc/fstab contient les informations sur ce qui doit être monté.
Les informations sur ce qui est monté sont dans /etc/mtab.

La lecture de /etc/fstab doit permettre de retrouver la bonne partition.

Bonne continuation,
Sil


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Re: [HS] smtp distant tunnel ssh postfix

2009-05-03 Thread Goldy
Bulot gregory a écrit :
 Bonjour,
 
 j'ai positionné le tag hors sujet, car cela n'est pas spécifique debian
 
 Actuellement depuis mon réseau local l'envoi de mails ne posent pas de
 problèmes, depuis mon webmail non plus (qui est aussi le serveur smtp)
 
 par contre depuis les hôtels je me connecte via putty en ssh avec tunnel
 et transfert de port (web, imap,  smtp : équivalent ssh -L 25:localhost:25
 u...@chezmoi.com)
 
 malheureusement il m'est toujours impossible d'envoyer mes mails depuis
 mon portable
 
 pour info :
 tank : serveur smtp, imap
 neo : routeur (linux)
 
 
 
 === le message d'erreur (log postfix) : 
 May  3 19:42:43 tank postfix/smtpd[30305]: connect from
 neo.bulot-fr.com[192.168.1.190]
 May  3 19:42:49 tank postfix/smtpd[30305]: NOQUEUE: reject: RCPT from
 neo.bulot-fr.com[192.168.1.190]: 504 5.5.2 unknown: Helo command
 rejected: need fully-qualified hostname; from=moi_nos...@bulot-fr.com
 to=moi_nos...@bulot-fr.com proto=SMTP helo=unknown
 May  3 19:42:55 tank dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=gbulot,
 method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
 
 
  main.cf ==
 smtpd_banner = $myhostname ESMTP $mail_name (Debian/GNU)
 biff = no
 smtpd_helo_required = yes
 
 append_dot_mydomain = no
 
 
 smtpd_tls_cert_file=/etc/ssl/certs/ssl-cert-snakeoil.pem
 smtpd_tls_key_file=/etc/ssl/private/ssl-cert-snakeoil.key
 smtpd_use_tls=yes
 smtpd_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtpd_scache
 smtp_tls_session_cache_database = btree:${queue_directory}/smtp_scache
 
 
 myhostname = tank.bulot-fr.com
 alias_maps = hash:/etc/aliases
 alias_database = hash:/etc/aliases
 myorigin = $myhostname
 mydestination = batman.dyndns.org, bulot-fr.com, localhost,
 localhost.localdomain
 relayhost = smtp.free.fr
 mynetworks = 127.0.0.0/8 127.0.0.1 192.168.1.0/24
 mailbox_command = procmail -a $EXTENSION
 mailbox_size_limit = 0
 recipient_delimiter = +
 inet_interfaces = all
 inet_protocols = all
 
 relay_domains = $mynetworks
 
 smtpd_helo_restrictions = reject_non_fqdn_hostname
 
 smtpd_sender_restrictions =
 permit_mynetworks,
 reject_unknown_sender_domain,
 warn_if_reject reject_unverified_sender
 
 smtpd_client_restrictions =
 permit_mynetworks,
 reject_unknown_client,
 check_client_access
 cidr:/etc/postfix/sinokoreacidr.txt,
 hash:/etc/postfix/deny,
 hash:/etc/postfix/access,
 regexp:/etc/postfix/clientblocks,
 
 
 
 smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
 permit_mynetworks,
 check_client_access hash:/etc/postfix/access,
 check_recipient_access hash:/etc/postfix/access,
 reject_unauth_destination,
 reject_unknown_recipient_domain,
 reject_non_fqdn_recipient,
 reject_non_fqdn_sender,
 
 reject_unknown_sender_domain,
 reject_unauth_pipelining,
 reject_invalid_hostname,
 reject_rbl_client opm.blitzed.org,
 reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,
 reject_rbl_client bl.spamcop.net,
 reject_rbl_client dnsbl.njabl.org,
 reject_rbl_client sbl-xbl.spamhaus.org,
 reject_rbl_client list.dsbl.org,
 
 reject_rbl_client dnsbl.ahbl.org,
 reject_rbl_client dnsbl.sorbs.net,
 reject_rbl_client relays.visi.com,
 reject_rhsbl_client blackhole.securitysage.com,
 reject_rhsbl_sender blackhole.securitysage.com,
 reject_rhsbl_client rhsbl.ahbl.org,
 reject_rhsbl_sender rhsbl.ahbl.org,
 reject_rhsbl_client rhsbl.sorbs.net
 reject_rhsbl_sender rhsbl.sorbs.net,
 reject_rhsbl_client block.rhs.mailpolice.com,
 reject_rhsbl_sender block.rhs.mailpolice.com,
 reject_rhsbl_client dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com,
 reject_rhsbl_sender dynamic.rhs.mailpolice.com,
 reject_rhsbl_client bogusmx.rfc-ignorant.org,
 reject_rhsbl_sender bogusmx.rfc-ignorant.org,
 reject_rhsbl_client dsn.rfc-ignorant.org,
 reject_rhsbl_sender dsn.rfc-ignorant.org
 permit
 
 reject_unknown_sender_domain = yes
 
 

Personnellement j'utilise l'option -D de ssh pour creuser des tunnels,
et je règle mon client mail pour utiliser un proxy sock locale.

ssh -D port u...@host

T'auras l'avantage de pouvoir l'utiliser pour l'ensemble de tes
activités sur le réseau et pas uniquement l'envoie de mail.

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Re: chroot et autre OS

2009-05-03 Thread Basile STARYNKEVITCH

thomas parquier wrote:

Bonjour,

Est-il possible d'utiliser un autre OS (mac os, bsd) dans un chroot ?



Non, car l'environnement chrooté tourne le même noyau. Dans un chroot on 
peut juste faire tourner une autre distribution...

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Re: Obsługa USB w lennym z 2.6.26-2-686

2009-05-03 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
Hej,

przy pendrive'ach pobaw sie tymi opcjami sync itd, tu duzo zmienia.

pozdr.

p.s. sory za toppost ale nie chcialo mi sie ciac szyfrowanej wiadomosc (??)


W dniu 2 maja 2009 22:54 użytkownik Krzysztof Jastrzębski
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 Jak wyczaić czemu w Lennym transfer na pendrive jest taki koszmarny ?

 W chwili umieszczenia pendraka w porcie jądro melduje:
 [ 6793.507527] usb 5-1: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd
                        ^
 [ 6793.649428] usb 5-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
 [ 6793.649491] usb 5-1: New USB device found, idVendor=13fe, idProduct=1e00
 [ 6793.649491] usb 5-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
 SerialNumber=3
 [ 6793.649491] usb 5-1: Product: Patriot Memory
 [ 6793.649491] usb 5-1: Manufacturer:
 [ 6793.649491] usb 5-1: SerialNumber: 07821DA802DA
 [ 6793.947024] Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
 [ 6793.956054] scsi2 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
 [ 6793.956054] usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
 [ 6793.956054] USB Mass Storage support registered.
 [ 6793.988057] usb-storage: device found at 4
 [ 6793.988066] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
 [ 6799.029930] usb-storage: device scan complete
 [ 6799.060931] scsi 2:0:0:0: Direct-Access              Patriot Memory
  PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
 [ 6801.978707] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] 7831552 512-byte hardware sectors (4010 MB)
 [ 6801.978707] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
 [ 6801.978707] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
 [ 6801.978707] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
 [ 6801.982709] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] 7831552 512-byte hardware sectors (4010 MB)
 [ 6801.982709] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Write Protect is off
 [ 6801.982709] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Mode Sense: 23 00 00 00
 [ 6801.982709] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Assuming drive cache: write through
 [ 6801.982709]  sdc: sdc1
 [ 6802.038705] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdc] Attached SCSI removable disk
 [ 6802.038705] sd 2:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg3 type 0

 Ale speed bynajmniej nie jest high...
 Przed upgrade-m pamiętam w Etch-u poginało jak mały kazio.
 Teraz plik w stylu:
 ls -lah Wrocław090501-001.jpg
 - -rw-r--r-- 1 hawk hawk 2,6M maj  1 10:47 Wrocław090501-001.jpg
                ^^
 ...kopiuje się 5 minut a mc pokazuje jakieś absurdalne 5,00 KB/s.
 3 mega to powinno śmignąć w kilka sekund !

 Może to wina programu usbmount ?

 usbmount[6473]: trying to acquire lock /var/run/usbmount/.mount.lock
 usbmount[6473]: acquired lock /var/run/usbmount/.mount.lock
 usbmount[6473]: testing whether /dev/sdc is readable
 usbmount[6473]: /dev/sdc does not contain a filesystem or disklabel
 usbmount[6489]: trying to acquire lock /var/run/usbmount/.mount.lock
 usbmount[6489]: acquired lock /var/run/usbmount/.mount.lock
 usbmount[6489]: testing whether /dev/sdc1 is readable
 usbmount[6489]: /dev/sdc1 contains a filesystem or disklabel
 usbmount[6489]: /dev/sdc1 contains filesystem type vfat
 usbmount[6489]: mountpoint /media/usb0 is available for /dev/sdc1
 usbmount[6489]: executing command: mount -tvfat
 -
 -osync,noexec,nodev,noatime,gid=floppy,dmask=0007,fmask=0117,codepage=852,utf8
 /dev/sdc1 /media/usb0

 Też tak macie ?
 Jeśli tak to od kiedy ?
 Mógłby ktoś zrzucić swoje komunikaty przy włożeniu pendraka i napisać
 jaki ma transfer plików podobnej wielkości ?
 Gdzie szukać przyczyny ?

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Re: Obsług a USB w lennym z 2.6.26-2-686

2009-05-03 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 12:43:58PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote:
 p.s. sory za toppost ale nie chcialo mi sie ciac szyfrowanej wiadomosc (??)

Ona nie była szyfrowana, tylko podpisana. Można wiedzieć jakiż to
program pocztowy ma takie problemy z odpowiadaniem na takie wiadomości?

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Re: Obsługa USB w lennym z 2.6.26-2-686

2009-05-03 Thread Wojciech Ziniewicz
W dniu 3 maja 2009 16:31 użytkownik Marcin Owsiany
porri...@debian.org napisał:
 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 12:43:58PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote:
 p.s. sory za toppost ale nie chcialo mi sie ciac szyfrowanej wiadomosc (??)

 Ona nie była szyfrowana, tylko podpisana. Można wiedzieć jakiż to
 program pocztowy ma takie problemy z odpowiadaniem na takie wiadomości?

Gmail.

Osoboscie dostaje oczopląsu od podpisywanych wiadomości wysylanych na
grupe Czy na prawde jest to potrzebne ?

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Re: Obsług a USB w lennym z 2.6.26-2-686

2009-05-03 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:35:53PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote:
 W dniu 3 maja 2009 16:31 użytkownik Marcin Owsiany
 porri...@debian.org napisał:
  On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 12:43:58PM +0200, Wojciech Ziniewicz wrote:
  p.s. sory za toppost ale nie chcialo mi sie ciac szyfrowanej wiadomosc (??)
 
  Ona nie była szyfrowana, tylko podpisana. Można wiedzieć jakiż to
  program pocztowy ma takie problemy z odpowiadaniem na takie wiadomości?
 
 Gmail.

No tak, jego web UI słabo sobie z tym radzi :-/

Swoją drogą ciekawe czy multipart/signed będzie równie kiepsko
wyświetlone jak application/pgp? I czy stopka dodawana przez listę
dyskusyjną coś tu dodatkowo popsuje?

 Osoboscie dostaje oczopląsu od podpisywanych wiadomości wysylanych na
 grupe Czy na prawde jest to potrzebne ?

Wydaje mi się że jest to korzystne choćby dlatego, że więcej osób może
się dowiedzieć że istnieje coś takiego. Poza tym chyba powinno się dążyć
do tego, żeby używało PGP jak najwięcej osób - skoro kiepsko to u Ciebie
działa to może jest to powód żeby ponarzekać Googlowi zamiast autorowi
listu :-)

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Re: Obsługa USB w lennym z 2.6.26 -2-686

2009-05-03 Thread Krzysztof Jastrzębski
Marcin Owsiany pisze:

 Ona nie była szyfrowana, tylko podpisana. Można wiedzieć jakiż to
 program pocztowy ma takie problemy z odpowiadaniem na takie wiadomości?


Hejka. W sumie to nieistotne.
Fakt jest taki że pisząc na NASZĄ listę to w sumie mogę sobie ten podpis
darować co niniejszym czynię :-)



A odpowiadając Wojtkowi:

Tak, sync wydaje się pierwszym podejrzanym - wiem o tym.

Tylko że nie zakomentowałem dotąd tego parametru, poważnie traktując
poniższe ostrzeżenie:

h...@hawk:~$ cat /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf
# Configuration file for the usbmount package, which mounts USB mass
[...]
#
# WARNING!  The vfat filesystem does not yet fully implement
sync-mounting. #
# If you include vfat in the list of filesystem types, you *MUST* make
   #
# sure all data is written to the medium before you remove it (e.g. run
the #
# sync command in a terminal window).  Otherwise, you *WILL* lose
data!   #
#
FILESYSTEMS=ext2 ext3 vfat

# Mount options: Options passed to the mount command with the -o flag.
# WARNING!  Removing sync from the options is a very bad idea and
# might result in severe data loss.
MOUNTOPTIONS=sync,noexec,nodev,noatime



*MIMO tego* jednak interes na stół kładę, że przed upgrade-m też miałem
tę samą konfigurację i śmigało całkiem poprawnie...
Nawet mam wrażenie, że wyciąganie digicam-em z aparatu też trwa jakby
dłużej niż w Etch-u.

Zauważył ktoś z Was jeszcze takie zachowanie ?

Może jednak zakomentować i faktycznie zapodawać sync z palucha przed
wyjęciem pendraka ?

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Re: saber comandos

2009-05-03 Thread Willians Vivanco

Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez wrote:


Hola a t...@s, quisiera saber si existe algún comando que me dijera 
cuanta SWAP, CPU y RAM está utilizando mi servidor, en un determinado 
momento, no necesito ningún programa que me diga esto como htop por 
ejemplo solo los comandos….gracias de antemano



Prueba con free y sus variantes

free -m

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Mayor 'precisión' de scroll en el volume-applet de gnome

2009-05-03 Thread Marc Aymerich
Muy buenas,
me molesta que los saltos al hacer scroll con el mouse encima del
volume-applet de gnome sean del 4%, ¿Esto está pensado para poder ser
configurado en algun lado?

Saludos y gracias!!
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Orden de preferencia en network-manager

2009-05-03 Thread Marc Aymerich
Muy buenas,

quisiera saber en que se basa el orden de preferencia en que
networkmanager se basa a la hora de escojer a que AP wifi connectarse.
En mi caso no es ni el del último acceso, ni el que más veces se
conecta, ni el que tiene mejor señal. Todas las veces que inicio el
sistema intenta connectarse al AP del vecino y me molesta bastante
tener que cambiarlo. ¿Hay alguna forma de estavlecer la preferencia?

saludos y gracias!
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Re: Orden de preferencia en network-manager

2009-05-03 Thread Pau Font
Por casualidad, el wifi del vecino no usa encripaticón y tu si? Por defecto,
se conecta al primer HotSpot sin contraseña, es decir abierto... De otra
forma es incomprensible que se concete automaticamente.

El 3 de mayo de 2009 15:17, Marc Aymerich glicer...@gmail.com escribió:

 Muy buenas,

 quisiera saber en que se basa el orden de preferencia en que
 networkmanager se basa a la hora de escojer a que AP wifi connectarse.
 En mi caso no es ni el del último acceso, ni el que más veces se
 conecta, ni el que tiene mejor señal. Todas las veces que inicio el
 sistema intenta connectarse al AP del vecino y me molesta bastante
 tener que cambiarlo. ¿Hay alguna forma de estavlecer la preferencia?

 saludos y gracias!
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Re: saber comandos

2009-05-03 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez
El sáb, 02-05-2009 a las 23:53 -0400, Mauricio J. Adonis C. escribió:
 El sáb, 02-05-2009 a las 14:23 -0400, Reiniel Gonzalez Martinez
 escribió:
  Hola a t...@s, quisiera saber si existe algún comando que me dijera
  cuanta SWAP, CPU y RAM está utilizando mi servidor, en un determinado
  momento, no necesito ningún programa que me diga esto como htop por
  ejemplo solo los comandos….gracias de antemano 
  
  
 
 Perdón, no me dí cuenta de tu procedencia, mil disculpas... esta es la
 información más relevante a la que me refería...
 
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Excelente rectificacion

 Texto tomado de la Web, tiene los permisos adecuados para ello...
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 DESCUBRIENDO LAS POSIBILIDADES DEL DIRECTORIO /PROC
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 siempre y cuando se cite al autor y la fuente de linuxtotal.com.mx y
 según los términos de la GNU Free Documentation License, Versión 1.2 o
 cualquiera posterior publicada por la Free Software Foundation.
 autor: Federico Kereki (fkere...@gmail.com)
 traducción: sergio.gonzalez.du...@gmail.com
 artículo original en inglés: Discover the possibilities of the /proc
 folder
 
 
 
 El directorio /proc es una bestia extraña. Realmente no existe, sin
 embargo puedes explorarlo. Sus archivos de tamaño 0 no son ni binarios
 ni textos, sin embargo puedes examinarlos y desplegar su contenido. Este
 directorio especial contiene todos los detalles de tu sistema Linux,
 incluyendo el kernel, procesos y parámetros de configuración. Estudiando
 el directorio /proc, puedes aprender como los comandos de Linux trabajan
 e incluso es posible realizar tareas administrativas.
 
 Bajo Linux, todo es administrado como un archivo; incluso los
 dispositivos son accedidos como archivos (en el directorio /dev). Aunque
 que podrías pensar que archivos normales son ya sea texto o binarios
 (o posiblemente dispositivos o archivos pipe), el directorio /proc
 contiene una extraño tipo de archivo: archivos virtuales. Estos archivos
 son listados, pero realmente no existen en disco; el sistema operativo
 los crea al vuelo si tratas de leerlos.
 
 La mayoría de los archivos virtuales siempre tienen una marca de tiempo
 (timestamp) actual, lo que indica que están constantemente siendo
 actualizados. El directorio /proc en si mismo es creado cada vez que
 arrancas tu equipo. Se requiere ser root para poder examinar
 completamente el directorio en su totalidad; algunos de los archivos
 (tales como los relacionados a procesos) son propiedad del usuario que
 los ejecutó. Y aunque casi tdos los archivos son de solo lectura, hay
 algunos pocos con permisos de escritura (notablemente en /proc/sys) que
 permiten realizar cambios en los parámetros del kernel. (Queda claro que
 debes ser muy cuidados con esto)
 
 
 
 Organización del directorio /proc
 El directorio /proc está organizado en directorios virtuales y
 subdirectorios, que agrupan archivos de tópicos similares. Trabajando
 como root el comando ls /proc te despliega algo como lo siguiente:
 
 # ls /proc
 1 2432  3340  3715  3762  5441  815devices  modules
 129   2474  3358  3716  3764  5445  acpi   diskstatsmounts
 1290  248   3413  3717  3812  5459  asound dma  mtrr
 133   2486  3435  3718  3813  5479  busexecdomains  partitions
 1420  2489  3439  3728  3814  557   drifb   self
 165   276   3450  3731  395842  driver filesystems  slabinfo
 166   280   363733  3973  5854  fs interrupts   splash
 2 2812  3602  3734  4 6 ideiomemstat
 2267  3 3603  3735  406381  irqioports  swaps
 2268  326   3614  3737  4083  6558  netkallsyms sysrq-trigger
 2282  327   3696  3739  4868  6561  scsi   kcoretimer_list
 2285  3284  3697  3742  4873  6961  syskeys timer_stats
 2295  329   3700  3744  4878  7206  sysvipckey-usersuptime
 2335  3295  3701  3745  5 7207  ttykmsg version
 2400  330   3706  3747  5109  7222  buddyinfo  loadavg  vmcore
 2401  3318  3709  3749  5112  7225  cmdlinelocksvmstat
 2427  3329  3710  3751  541   7244  config.gz  meminfo  zoneinfo
 2428  3336  3714  3753  5440  752   cpuinfomisc
 Los directorios con números (más sobre esto en un momento) corresponden
 a cada proceso en ejecución; un autoenlace simbólico apunta al proceso
 actual. Algunos archivos virtuales proveen información sobre el
 hardware, tal como /proc/cpuinfo y /proc/interrupts. Otros proporcionan
 información relacionada a los archivos, tales como /proc/filesystems
 o /proc/partitions. Los archivos situados bajo /proc/sys son
 relacionados a la configuración de parámetros del kernel, como ya
 veremos.
 
 El comando cat /proc/meminfo puede traer a la pantalla algo como lo
 siguiente:
 
 # cat /proc/meminfo
 

Backup de disco moribundo

2009-05-03 Thread Adrià
Hola lista,

recientemente he notado que mi disco duro hacía cosas raras, así que
le he pasado un smartctl [1]  y me ha confirmado que está en Pre-fail.
Dado que en este disco tengo tanto el sistema operativo (stable) como
los datos (/var, /home, ...) me gustaría encontrar la forma más
eficiente para hacer un backup de lo que es propiamente el sistema
operativo (programas, librerías...).

Con los datos (y /etc) no debería haber problema porque los tengo
copiados fuera.
Pero me gustaría mantener el mismo software y versiones que tengo
ahora mismo. Para ello he pensado en hacer:

copia de mi sources.list
# dpkg --get-selections  software.txt (para obtener lista de
programas y versiones)
volcado de mi sources.list
# dpkg --set-selections  software.txt (para hacer un volcado del
listado anterior)
# aptitude update
# dselect (para instalar/desinstalar el software)

Os parece buena ésta forma? Tenéis alguna sugerencia de mejora?

Muchas gracias y saludos.

[1] adjunto la salida de un smartctl --all /dev/sda

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papageno:/home/adria# smartctl --all /dev/sda
smartctl version 5.38 [i686-pc-linux-gnu] Copyright (C) 2002-8 Bruce Allen
Home page is http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/

=== START OF INFORMATION SECTION ===
Model Family: Seagate Momentus 7200.1 series
Device Model: ST980825AS
Serial Number:3MH0LZ00
Firmware Version: 3.12
User Capacity:80,026,361,856 bytes
Device is:In smartctl database [for details use: -P show]
ATA Version is:   7
ATA Standard is:  Exact ATA specification draft version not indicated
Local Time is:Sun May  3 13:18:32 2009 CEST
SMART support is: Available - device has SMART capability.
SMART support is: Enabled

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

General SMART Values:
Offline data collection status:  (0x82) Offline data collection activity
was completed without error.
Auto Offline Data Collection: Enabled.
Self-test execution status:  (   0) The previous self-test routine completed
without error or no self-test has ever
been run.
Total time to complete Offline
data collection: ( 426) seconds.
Offline data collection
capabilities:(0x5b) SMART execute Offline immediate.
Auto Offline data collection on/off 
support.
Suspend Offline collection upon new
command.
Offline surface scan supported.
Self-test supported.
No Conveyance Self-test supported.
Selective Self-test supported.
SMART capabilities:(0x0003) Saves SMART data before entering
power-saving mode.
Supports SMART auto save timer.
Error logging capability:(0x01) Error logging supported.
No General Purpose Logging support.
Short self-test routine
recommended polling time:(   2) minutes.
Extended self-test routine
recommended polling time:(  42) minutes.
SCT capabilities:  (0x0001) SCT Status supported.

SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 10
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME  FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE  UPDATED  
WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
  1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000f   102   099   006Pre-fail  Always   
-   4073086
  3 Spin_Up_Time0x0002   095   092   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
  4 Start_Stop_Count0x0033   098   098   020Pre-fail  Always   
-   2122
  5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct   0x0033   100   100   036Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
  7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000f   078   060   030Pre-fail  Always   
-   60581563
  9 Power_On_Hours  0x0032   098   098   000Old_age   Always   
-   2288
 10 Spin_Retry_Count0x0013   100   100   034Pre-fail  Always   
-   0
 12 Power_Cycle_Count   0x0033   099   099   020Pre-fail  Always   
-   1176
187 Reported_Uncorrect  0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   0
189 High_Fly_Writes 0x003a   078   078   000Old_age   Always   
-   22
190 Airflow_Temperature_Cel 0x0022   060   049   045Old_age   Always   
-   40 (Lifetime Min/Max 17/40)
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032   100   100   000Old_age   Always   
-   143
193 Load_Cycle_Count0x0032   095   095   000Old_age   Always   
-   11371
194 Temperature_Celsius

Error certificados CA

2009-05-03 Thread cesar bd


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Chroot para X no funiciona

2009-05-03 Thread Carlos Eduardo Sotelo Pinto
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Hola lista

segun la seccion 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-tips.es.html#s-chroot-x de la 
guia
de referencia hay que hacer lo siguiente para poder activar las x en un entorno 
chroot

 main # cp /etc/X11/XF86Config-4 /sid-root/etc/X11/XF86Config-4
 main # chroot /sid-root # o utilice la consola chroot
 chroot # cd /dev; /sbin/MAKEDEV generic ; cd -
 chroot # apt-get install gdm gnome x-window-system
 chroot # vi /etc/gdm/gdm.conf # haga s/vt7/vt9/ en la sección [servers]
 chroot # /etc/init.d/gdm start

El problema es que esto esta descatualizado ya que el archivo de configuracion 
de gdm es

/usr/share/gdm/defaults.conf

Y no contiene las lineas que mensiona el manual, el manual en ingles dice lo 
mismo, alguien lo ha
hecho y le ha funcionado con lenny?

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Re: Orden de preferencia en network-manager

2009-05-03 Thread Tonny

Pau Font escribió:
Por casualidad, el wifi del vecino no usa encripaticón y tu si? Por 
defecto, se conecta al primer HotSpot sin contraseña, es decir 
abierto... De otra forma es incomprensible que se concete automaticamente.


El 3 de mayo de 2009 15:17, Marc Aymerich glicer...@gmail.com 
mailto:glicer...@gmail.com escribió:


Muy buenas,

quisiera saber en que se basa el orden de preferencia en que
networkmanager se basa a la hora de escojer a que AP wifi connectarse.
En mi caso no es ni el del último acceso, ni el que más veces se
conecta, ni el que tiene mejor señal. Todas las veces que inicio el
sistema intenta connectarse al AP del vecino y me molesta bastante
tener que cambiarlo. ¿Hay alguna forma de estavlecer la preferencia?

saludos y gracias!
Marc.


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Re: Backup de disco moribundo

2009-05-03 Thread Mario Oyorzabal Salgado
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Adrià escribió:
 Hola lista,
 
 recientemente he notado que mi disco duro hacía cosas raras, así que
 le he pasado un smartctl [1]  y me ha confirmado que está en Pre-fail.
 Dado que en este disco tengo tanto el sistema operativo (stable) como
 los datos (/var, /home, ...) me gustaría encontrar la forma más
 eficiente para hacer un backup de lo que es propiamente el sistema
 operativo (programas, librerías...).
 
 [1] adjunto la salida de un smartctl --all /dev/sda
 

Hola, veo la salida del smartctl y no veo nada fuera de lo normal, los campos
que te dice smartctl en PRE-FAIL significa que si los campos que tienen esta
denominación su valor ya sea VALUE o WORST estan debajo de THRESH ahí significa
que si esta en falla.

También se ve que has hecho pruebas extendidas y cortas en ninguna hay errores,
por lo que creo que si alguien más opina lo contrario los valores de smartctl te
dan un disco duro en buen estado, pero no siempre puede ser así, recordemos que
el smartctl, en muchos caso solo puede servir como una medida preventiva ;-).

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Re: Backup de disco moribundo

2009-05-03 Thread consultores1
On May 3, 2009 4:21:58 am Adri� wrote:
 Hola lista,

 recientemente he notado que mi disco duro hacía cosas raras, así que
 le he pasado un smartctl [1]  y me ha confirmado que está en Pre-fail.
 Dado que en este disco tengo tanto el sistema operativo (stable) como
 los datos (/var, /home, ...) me gustaría encontrar la forma más
 eficiente para hacer un backup de lo que es propiamente el sistema
 operativo (programas, librerías...).

 Con los datos (y /etc) no debería haber problema porque los tengo
 copiados fuera.
 Pero me gustaría mantener el mismo software y versiones que tengo
 ahora mismo. Para ello he pensado en hacer:

 copia de mi sources.list
 # dpkg --get-selections  software.txt (para obtener lista de
 programas y versiones)
 volcado de mi sources.list
 # dpkg --set-selections  software.txt (para hacer un volcado del
 listado anterior)
 # aptitude update
 # dselect (para instalar/desinstalar el software)

 Os parece buena ésta forma? Tenéis alguna sugerencia de mejora?

 Muchas gracias y saludos.

 [1] adjunto la salida de un smartctl --all /dev/sda

Hola

Y no te funcionaria:

1. agregar 1 DD nuevo, igual o mayor que el viejo.
2. copiar con dd del viejo al nuevo, (alli va todo).
3. quitar el viejo y arrancar desde el nuevo. (se supone que no tendrias que 
cambiar nada.)



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Re: OFF: DNS EMBRATEL

2009-05-03 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 02-05-2009 08:13, Flávio Barros wrote:
 Bom dia a todos.
 Estou instalando um link da Embratel e agora preciso configurar um
 servidor de DNS e de email.
 Preciso de orientações sobre como configurar o registro de domínio reverso.

Lembre-se que geralmente quem configura o reverso é o dono do bloco
/24, em alguns casos isso é delegado. Você não informou qual servidor
de DNS está usando, então fica difícil adivinhar.


 Se alguém poder me enviar exemplos da configuração de um domínio real,
 eu fico muito grato.

Reverso no BIND:
http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/DNS-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3


O reverso é uma zona normal com nome engraçado e a numeração
é sempre ao contrário, então se você tiver um bloco maior do /24, por
exemplo, /20, e o IP for 192.168.0.0/20, seu reverso ficará sendo
168.192.in-addr.arpa e uma máquina 192.168.5.123 ficará:

123.5   IN PTR nome-da-máquina.suazona.com.br.


Outras referências:
http://www.dicas-l.com.br/dicas-l/20060508.php
http://imasters.uol.com.br/artigo/9034/linux/dns_reverso/
http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch3/
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1033
http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1912

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Re: Compilar drive da broadcom

2009-05-03 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 01-05-2009 10:04, Ronaldo Reis Junior wrote:
 Pessoal,
 
 alguem por acaso já conseguiu compilar o drive da broadcom que está no 
 endereço abaixo no kernel 2.6.29 do debian/unstable? No 2.6.26 vai legal, mas 
 no 2.6.29 da erro.
 
 http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php

Você tem que compilar?

Instalar o b43-fwcutter não resolve?

http://packages.debian.org/sid/b43-fwcutter

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Re: OFF: DNS EMBRATEL

2009-05-03 Thread Flávio Barros
Bem, vamos as respostas.
Felipe, estou utilizando o Debian Lenny como servidor DNS e o Bind9.  E a
faixa que foi me fornecida é a /28 (255.255.255.240).

Junior, com relação ao servidor de email ainda estou com dúvida entre o
Qmail e o Postfix.
Até o momento estou mais pro lado do Qmail. Vou precisar trabakhar com
quotas e LDAP.
Sei que ambos trabalham mas pelo que pude perceber, o Qmail tem uma
interface de administração melhor. Certo ?

Queria aproveitar e agradecer ao Francisco. Ele me ajudou e muito.
Francisco, você trabalha na Embratel ?


Abraços a todos e tenham um ótimo domingo.

2009/5/3 Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) f...@funlabs.org

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 On 02-05-2009 08:13, Flávio Barros wrote:
  Bom dia a todos.
  Estou instalando um link da Embratel e agora preciso configurar um
  servidor de DNS e de email.
  Preciso de orientações sobre como configurar o registro de domínio
 reverso.

 Lembre-se que geralmente quem configura o reverso é o dono do bloco
 /24, em alguns casos isso é delegado. Você não informou qual servidor
 de DNS está usando, então fica difícil adivinhar.


  Se alguém poder me enviar exemplos da configuração de um domínio real,
  eu fico muito grato.

 Reverso no BIND:
 http://langfeldt.net/DNS-HOWTO/BIND-9/DNS-HOWTO-5.html#ss5.3


O reverso é uma zona normal com nome engraçado e a numeração
 é sempre ao contrário, então se você tiver um bloco maior do /24, por
 exemplo, /20, e o IP for 192.168.0.0/20, seu reverso ficará sendo
 168.192.in-addr.arpa e uma máquina 192.168.5.123 ficará:

 123.5   IN PTR 
 nome-da-máquina.suazona.com.brhttp://xn--nome-da-mquina-3gb.suazona.com.br
 .


 Outras referências:
 http://www.dicas-l.com.br/dicas-l/20060508.php
 http://imasters.uol.com.br/artigo/9034/linux/dns_reverso/
 http://www.zytrax.com/books/dns/ch3/
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1033
 http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1912

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Copiar é bom!
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cciss: fifo full

2009-05-03 Thread Matheus Cucoloto
Pessoal, estou tentando copiar um arquivos de 40gb(dd de um disco)
para o meu hd que esta em um hp ml350 com controlador smart array i200

Começa a copiar, mas chega em determinados momentos que para a copia

No console do hp com debian lenny aparece isso

May  2 15:52:34 debian kernel: cciss: fifo full

O que da para fazer???

estou usando debian etch com kernel do xen.

debian:/var/log# uname -a
Linux debian 2.6.18.8-xen #1 SMP Sat Feb 21 12:34:48 BRT 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
debian:/var/log#

Sinto tb uma performance baixa nos discos, tanto em raid1 quanto em
raid0. Como por exemplo taxa de transferencia de 20mb por segundo
(muito pouco).

Essa maquina esta rodando o xen e virtualizo algumas maquinas com ela.
o Xen que estou usando eh o 3.3.1.



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MENSAGEM DE ATENÇÃO DA POLICIA MILITAR

2009-05-03 Thread Nelson Moreno Machado
RECADO DA POLÍCIA MILITAR

CUIDADO
em
BARES, RESTAURANTES, IGREJAS
e outros locais de encontros coletivos.


Bandidos estão dando de 10 x 0 em criatividade, em nós e na Polícia,
portanto, vamos acabar com isso...   Vejam: Você e seus amigos ou familiares
estão num bar ou restaurante, batendo papo e se divertindo. De repente chega
um indivíduo e pergunta de quem é o carro tal, com placa tal, estacionado na
rua tal, solicitando que o proprietário dê um pulinho  lá fora para manobrar
o carro, que está dificultando a saída de outro carro.

Você, bastante solícito vai, e ao chegar até o seu carro, anunciam o
assalto e levam seu carro e seus pertences, e ainda terá sorte se não levar
um tiro...

Numa mesma noite, o resgate da Polícia Militar atendeu a três pessoas
baleadas, todas envolvidas no mesmo tipo de história.

Repasse esta notícia para alertar seus amigos...
O jeito, em caso semelhante é ir acompanhado! Chame alguns amigos para ir
junto, e de longe verifique se é verdade.
Isto também pode acontecer, quando se está na igreja, supermercado. .. ou em
outros locais de encontros coletivos.
'MENSAGEM TRANSMITIDA PELO ATENDIMENTO 190 '


Re: MENSAGEM DE ATENÇÃO DA POLICIA MILITAR

2009-05-03 Thread tombs
2009/5/3 Nelson Moreno Machado nelson.moreno.mach...@gmail.com

 RECADO DA POLÍCIA MILITAR

 CUIDADO
 em
 BARES, RESTAURANTES, IGREJAS
 e outros locais de encontros coletivos.


 Bandidos estão dando de 10 x 0 em criatividade, em nós e na Polícia,
 portanto, vamos acabar com isso...   Vejam: Você e seus amigos ou familiares
 estão num bar ou restaurante, batendo papo e se divertindo. De repente chega
 um indivíduo e pergunta de quem é o carro tal, com placa tal, estacionado na
 rua tal, solicitando que o proprietário dê um pulinho  lá fora para manobrar
 o carro, que está dificultando a saída de outro carro.

 Você, bastante solícito vai, e ao chegar até o seu carro, anunciam o
 assalto e levam seu carro e seus pertences, e ainda terá sorte se não levar
 um tiro...

 Numa mesma noite, o resgate da Polícia Militar atendeu a três pessoas
 baleadas, todas envolvidas no mesmo tipo de história.

 Repasse esta notícia para alertar seus amigos...
 O jeito, em caso semelhante é ir acompanhado! Chame alguns amigos para ir
 junto, e de longe verifique se é verdade.
 Isto também pode acontecer, quando se está na igreja, supermercado. .. ou
 em outros locais de encontros coletivos.
 'MENSAGEM TRANSMITIDA PELO ATENDIMENTO 190 '


Os bandidos usam debian para fazer isso?

#Essa lista esta precisando de moderacao urgente!!


Re: MENSAGEM DE ATENÇÃO DA POLICIA MILITAR

2009-05-03 Thread tombs
2009/5/3 Mauricio Rocha mr.fariasn...@gmail.com

 tombs, o cara só quis repassar uma info, e essa é boa!

 Um OFF-TOPIC não mata ninguém!
 Pior foi a discussão da mensagem do cara que tava voltando para o windows,
 alias para que mandar uma mensagem dessa? Quer voltar para Win, só voltar a
 lista né a mãe.

 tombs escreveu:

  2009/5/3 Nelson Moreno Machado nelson.moreno.mach...@gmail.com

  RECADO DA POLÍCIA MILITAR

 CUIDADO
 em
 BARES, RESTAURANTES, IGREJAS
 e outros locais de encontros coletivos.


 Bandidos estão dando de 10 x 0 em criatividade, em nós e na Polícia,
 portanto, vamos acabar com isso...   Vejam: Você e seus amigos ou
 familiares
 estão num bar ou restaurante, batendo papo e se divertindo. De repente
 chega
 um indivíduo e pergunta de quem é o carro tal, com placa tal, estacionado
 na
 rua tal, solicitando que o proprietário dê um pulinho  lá fora para
 manobrar
 o carro, que está dificultando a saída de outro carro.

 Você, bastante solícito vai, e ao chegar até o seu carro, anunciam o
 assalto e levam seu carro e seus pertences, e ainda terá sorte se não
 levar
 um tiro...

 Numa mesma noite, o resgate da Polícia Militar atendeu a três pessoas
 baleadas, todas envolvidas no mesmo tipo de história.

 Repasse esta notícia para alertar seus amigos...
 O jeito, em caso semelhante é ir acompanhado! Chame alguns amigos para ir
 junto, e de longe verifique se é verdade.
 Isto também pode acontecer, quando se está na igreja, supermercado. .. ou
 em outros locais de encontros coletivos.
 'MENSAGEM TRANSMITIDA PELO ATENDIMENTO 190 '


 Os bandidos usam debian para fazer isso?

 #Essa lista esta precisando de moderacao urgente!!

  Mauricio

Lista de discussao nao tem essa finalidade.
Uma vez, outra,...outra...outraok, mas agora ta virando diariamente.
Desde  OT ate a convites de sei_la_eu_o_que ou voce_recebeu_um_presentinho.
Isso prova que a lista esta precisando de moderacao.
Essa semana que passou, acabei me descadastrando de 2 listas que
assinava(claro que sem mail de adeus!) :-)
E nao quero me afastar da dup pois eh a que mais me faz falta. Embora
sempre possa procurar no historico/google. Mas prefiro participar.
Um [ ] a todos

tombs


Sobre SPAM na lista (era: Re: MENSAGEM DE ATENÇÃO DA POLICIA MILITAR)

2009-05-03 Thread Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw)
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On 03-05-2009 11:56, tombs wrote:
 2009/5/3 Nelson Moreno Machado nelson.moreno.mach...@gmail.com
 mailto:nelson.moreno.mach...@gmail.com
 
 RECADO DA POLÍCIA MILITAR

[...]

 Os bandidos usam debian para fazer isso?
 
 #Essa lista esta precisando de moderacao urgente!!

Há vários itens importantes aqui, o primeiro deles é
que acho que já ficou claro pra maioria da lista é que não há
e não haverá moderação no sentido esperado de bloqueio das
mensagens. As listas do Debian são abertas e há vários de
nós que defendem que elas continuem assim.

Apenas gostaria de registrar um ponto que talvez não
fique claro pra algumas pessoas, eu só recebi o SPAM da
Polícia Militar porque *você* respondeu ele e fez full quote
do texto, o meu filtro anti-spam tinha pego e descartado a
mensagem, o efeito colateral da sua resposta foi duplicar o
SPAM nos arquivos e ainda me fazer lê-lo (o que provavelmente
deve ter afetado várias outras pessoas).

Não responda SPAM, simplesmente acesse o arquivo e
clique no botão 'Report as spam'. Recentemente os listmasters
divulgaram novos mecanismos pra ajudar a limpar os arquivos.


A remoção de SPAM é feita em 3 estágios:
1) uma mensagem que é SPAM deve ser reportada por várias pessoas
   usando o botão Report as spam que aparece no top de cada
   mensagem no arquivo.
2) isso precisa ser revisto por vários DDs (usando novas
   ferramentas)
3) a remoção propriamente dita

O pessoal do Debian Installer está coordenando para
manter os arquivos da lista deles limpos, aqui estão os detalhes:

   http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SpamClean


Eles pretendem adicionar nome/apelido/iniciais para cada
pessoas que revisa um mês, e a idéia é que 3 ou 4 pessoas pra cada
mês sejam suficiente. Daí são necessários DDs, eu não sei se temos
alguém fazendo isso para a d-u-p, mas podemos procurá-los. :-)

Os 3 passos são necessários porque há vários falso-positivos
de mensagens válidas relatadas como SPAM. Abaixo mais informações
sobre as ferramentas de limpeza:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2009/04/msg00012.html
Veja: RFH: Removing spam from the listarchive)
http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam

Abraço,
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Re: Compilar drive da broadcom

2009-05-03 Thread Rafael Bedendo

Eu escrevi em meu blog isso.

http://blog.bedendo.eti.br/?p=34

Abraços,

Rafael Bedendo

Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) escreveu:

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On 01-05-2009 10:04, Ronaldo Reis Junior wrote:
  

Pessoal,

alguem por acaso já conseguiu compilar o drive da broadcom que está no 
endereço abaixo no kernel 2.6.29 do debian/unstable? No 2.6.26 vai legal, mas 
no 2.6.29 da erro.


http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php



Você tem que compilar?

Instalar o b43-fwcutter não resolve?

http://packages.debian.org/sid/b43-fwcutter

Abraço,
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Re: MENSAGEM DE ATENÇÃO DA POLICIA MILITAR

2009-05-03 Thread Mauricio Rocha

tombs, o cara só quis repassar uma info, e essa é boa!

Um OFF-TOPIC não mata ninguém!
Pior foi a discussão da mensagem do cara que tava voltando para o 
windows, alias para que mandar uma mensagem dessa? Quer voltar para Win, 
só voltar a lista né a mãe.


tombs escreveu:

2009/5/3 Nelson Moreno Machado nelson.moreno.mach...@gmail.com


RECADO DA POLÍCIA MILITAR

CUIDADO
em
BARES, RESTAURANTES, IGREJAS
e outros locais de encontros coletivos.


Bandidos estão dando de 10 x 0 em criatividade, em nós e na Polícia,
portanto, vamos acabar com isso...   Vejam: Você e seus amigos ou familiares
estão num bar ou restaurante, batendo papo e se divertindo. De repente chega
um indivíduo e pergunta de quem é o carro tal, com placa tal, estacionado na
rua tal, solicitando que o proprietário dê um pulinho  lá fora para manobrar
o carro, que está dificultando a saída de outro carro.

Você, bastante solícito vai, e ao chegar até o seu carro, anunciam o
assalto e levam seu carro e seus pertences, e ainda terá sorte se não levar
um tiro...

Numa mesma noite, o resgate da Polícia Militar atendeu a três pessoas
baleadas, todas envolvidas no mesmo tipo de história.

Repasse esta notícia para alertar seus amigos...
O jeito, em caso semelhante é ir acompanhado! Chame alguns amigos para ir
junto, e de longe verifique se é verdade.
Isto também pode acontecer, quando se está na igreja, supermercado. .. ou
em outros locais de encontros coletivos.
'MENSAGEM TRANSMITIDA PELO ATENDIMENTO 190 '



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Re: Sobre SPAM na lista (era: Re: MENSAGEM DE ATENÇ ÃO DA POLICIA MILITAR)

2009-05-03 Thread André Luís Lopes
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Olá,

Felipe Augusto van de Wiel (faw) escreveu:
 
   Apenas gostaria de registrar um ponto que talvez não
 fique claro pra algumas pessoas, eu só recebi o SPAM da
 Polícia Militar porque *você* respondeu ele e fez full quote
 do texto, o meu filtro anti-spam tinha pego e descartado a
 mensagem, o efeito colateral da sua resposta foi duplicar o
 SPAM nos arquivos e ainda me fazer lê-lo (o que provavelmente
 deve ter afetado várias outras pessoas).

   Sim, foi para várias outras pessoas. Eu fui um deles, por exemplo.
Devido a isso (espalhar o spam original para quem não o havia recebido),
relatei sua (tombs) mensagem de resposta ao spam original como spam, em
adição ao spam original.

   Espero que isso ajude a acabar com a porcaria (entenda como porcaria
o spam e as respostas das pessoas reclamando sobre o mesmo) nos
históricos da lista.

   Por favor, não reclamem do spam. Ninguém vai perder horas preciosas
de sua vida particular moderando listas. Esqueça, simplesmente não vai
acontecer. Parem de reclamar, sério. A reclamação é pior do que o spam
para pessoas que, como eu, filtram o spam em sua ponta, visto que o spam
original e filtrado, mas ainda temos que ficar acompanhando as reclamações.

   Se estiverem preocupados tanto com isso, façam a filtragem na sua
ponta (o que eu faço, e não teria recebido o spam original caso não
tivessem respondido ao mesmo, para a lista, com o conteúdo original do
mesmo quotado) ou, como o Felipe sugeriu, se engajem nesse novo esquema
de filtragem coletiva/colaborativa.

   Só não inventem threads inúteis onde não deveriam existir, reclamando
de algo que. sabidamente, não é resolvido com reclamações.

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Novo na Lista

2009-05-03 Thread Thiago Branco Meurer
Quero participar...

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Re: network configuration for Eth0

2009-05-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sat May 2 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  need to run:
  iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 80 -i eth0 -j
  ACCEPT iptables -I INPUT -p tcp -m state --state NEW --dport 22 -i eth0
  -j ACCEPT /sbin/iptables -N ssh-connection
  /sbin/iptables -A ssh-connection -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -m
  recent --update --seconds 600 --hitcount 4 --rttl --name SSH -j
  LOG --log-prefix SSH_brute_force 
  /sbin/iptables -A ssh-connection -i eth0 -p tcp --dport 22 -m
  recent --update --seconds 600 --hitcount 4 --rttl --name SSH -j DROP
  /sbin/iptables -A ssh-connection -p tcp --dport 22 -m state --state NEW
  -m recent --set --name SSH -j ACCEPT

 Sorry, I'm not familiar with either iptables or firestarter. You might
 want to start a new thread about this.

I'm not familiar with firestarter either, that's why I tried to create a shell 
script.. I'm better when I can work with plain old config files.. and VI :)

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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

2009-05-03 Thread Harry Rickards
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Paul Scott wrote:
 
 On May 2, 2009, at 9:47 AM, Harry Rickards wrote:
 
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 John Hasler wrote:
 Harry Rickards writes:
 Plus, even though emacs does other stuff apart from editing, what can
 emacs do that a separate tool can't do? Surely if emacs is more than an
 editor, it doesn't follow Doug McIlroy's UNIX philosophy

 GNU's Not Unix.

 Linux != GNU
 
 
 Meaning??
 
 GNU is an OS,  Linux is a kernel.
 
 Unfortunately popular usage has led to Linux incorrectly meaning
 GNU/Linux and even more.
 

Meaning that John Hasler was saying that GNU Emacs shouldn't follow a
UNIX Philosophy because GNU's Not UNIX. I was saying that Linux != GNU,
and as this is a Debian list, most of us probably use GNU Emacs on Linux.

Also, although GNU Emacs was written by GNU and GNU's Not UNIX, I think
(someone correct me if I'm wrong here) it was originally written for UNIX.


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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

2009-05-03 Thread Harry Rickards
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Mike Castle wrote:
 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 3:31 PM, Paul Scott waterho...@ultrasw.com wrote:
 GNU is an OS,  Linux is a kernel.

 Unfortunately popular usage has led to Linux incorrectly meaning GNU/Linux
 and even more.
 
 How much GNU software is required before it has to have the GNU moniker?
 
 If my machine uses the Linux kernel is mostly busybox instead of
 coreutils/textutils/shutils do I have to keep using GNU/Linux?
 
 If I use a BSD kernel with mostly GNU software, do I have to call it
 GNU/BSD?  (Something I'd find very amusing, by the way.)
 
 mrc
 
 
If I run GNU Emacs, GIMP (GNU Image Manipulation Program), GNUnet, MinGW
(Minimalist GNU for Windows) etc on Windows, does that mean I have to
call it GNU/Windows? :D

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Re: Bash Session

2009-05-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 10:27:08PM +0530, Kurian Thayil wrote:
 Hi All,
 
 Planning to give a small demo on BASH scripting in a LUG community. Audience
 will be school teachers and basic home users and thus are beginners.
 Thinking on how to present simple and some example scripts that will make
 them more interesting and love command line. Need some suggestions.
 
 Its always difficult to think simple and easy. :-) So I've quite confused
 here on how and what to present. Any help?

Showoff surfraw?

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Re: Acer Aspire One A110 16GB Linux

2009-05-03 Thread Andrew M.A. Cater
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:56:18AM +0100, Bob Cox wrote:
 On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 00:29:17 +0200, Sven Hoexter (s...@timegate.de) 
 wrote: 
 
  On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 08:56:58PM +0100, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
  
   Or I can install Debian - I know there's a Wiki page but can anybody 
   give me clear advice on support for the Wifi / any other devices under 
   Lenny.
  
 
 I think this Acer uses the same Atheron wireless chipset as my Samsung
 NC10.  By using the 2.6.29 kernel from sid, this chipset is natively
 supported and should just work without any fiddling.
 
Thanks to all who replied. This was an ex-display model. I ended up 
doing a complete re-install from the recovery media which was just as 
well.

[As much for the sake of Google archives as anything else :) ]

For anybody else in this situation: the Acer re-install appears tailored 
to booting via an external CD drive from the CD supplied. If you don't 
have one, there's the option to write to a 2GB USB stick.

The media appears incredibly sensitive to CD drives - it locked two 
machines before working on a third. The CD actually boots a mini Linux 
to do the copy (and display videos, progress bar and so on) and takes 
about 20 minutes to write the USB stick. Moving the USB stick across to 
the Acer and hitting F12, it prompts to restore to the 16GB flash.

Restoration takes about 40 minutes - again with videos. Annoyingly, on 
both write and restore there's a stage where the progress bar is at 100% 
complete but its still working and hanging.

Once rebooted, using the Live Update tool provided under Settings, the 
machine updated 12 packages or so. Linpus Lite is based on Fedora 8 and the yum 
repositories listed include the Fedora repository as well as Asus' own. 
Fedora 8 is just out of support from the Fedora end.

Opening a terminal (Alt-F2, xterm) and running yum update showed a large 
number of updates. This is where I fell foul of yum: the Acer packages 
for scim conflict with the upgrades, but most importantly, notify-daemon 
conflicts with notification-daemon-xfce.

Attempting to resolve this by removing one or the other hoses your 
desktop completely, removing wireless [Network Manager and underlying 
Gnome libraries.] hence the re-install. 

There is a good little note out there which shows you where to change 
xfdesktop2 (Asus' simplified desktop) to xfdesktop (original xfce) and 
that's worth doing.

yum install openssh doesn't work nor does yum install ssh-client - you 
have to yum install ssh :)

[/Google]

I'm going to wait till 2.6.29 hits us with lenny and a half and then 
re-install  with Lenny. For the meantime, I'm happy for light use and 
very happy indeed with the weight and the quality of the display.

AndyC


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List of installed package sortet by installed size

2009-05-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
Hi all.

How can I create a list of installed packages sortet by installed
size?

Elimar


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Re: Added more memory. Not useable???

2009-05-03 Thread Micha Feigin
On Sun, 3 May 2009 08:28:44 +0300
Andrei Popescu andreimpope...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat,02.May.09, 15:27:26, Mark Neidorff wrote:
 
   Same thing, the kernel doesn't recognize your memory. What kernel
   flavour are you running (uname -a)?
 
  Linux mail 2.6.18-6-486 #1 Fri Dec 12 16:18:30 UTC 2008 i686 GNU/Linux
 
 Ok, I would try the -686 flavour and the -686-bigmem flavours. The 
 -bigmem flavour should not be needed unless you have *more* than 4GB 
 RAM, but it's worth experimenting with.
 

Actually if I'm not mistaken more the 2gb or 3gb (not sure about the standard
setup). Theoretically standard 32bit can address 4gb but the kernel splits that
memory space between userspace and kernel space, classically in a 2gb:2gb
split, which leaves 2gb addressable memory. It is possible to set it up in a
3gb:1gb split, but it is not standard.

Bigmem uses an extention that allows addressing more memory (I think that it's
called pxe). Another option is to use a 64bit kernel, but unless you use a
64bit userspace a few things can cause problems (most things work ok, I think
except some modules). The only problem with a 64bit userspace is more memory
consuption by programs (about 15%). Performace may also vary, depending on
typical usage.

 Regards,
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Re: List of installed package sortet by installed size

2009-05-03 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2009-05-03 10:44 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:

 How can I create a list of installed packages sortet by installed
 size?

Install the dctrl-tools package and run the command

grep-status -FStatus -sInstalled-Size,Package -n \
install ok installed | paste -sd   \n | sort -n

Don't give me any credit for this tip, I just pasted it from the
grep-dctrl manpage. :-)

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Re: network configuration for Eth0

2009-05-03 Thread Paul Cartwright
On Sun May 3 2009, Andrei Popescu wrote:
  Firestarter might work, but i really wanted to be able to add my own
  entry to some file somewhere:) command-line junky :)

 Sounds like shorewall to me ;)

ahhh, I might have to look at it. thanks!
per the INTRO page:
http://www.shorewall.net/

Shorewall is not a daemon. Once Shorewall has configured the Linux networking 
subsystem, its job is complete and there is no “Shorewall process” left 
running in your system. The /sbin/shorewall program can be used at any time 
to monitor the Netfilter firewall.

this is what I am looking for.

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Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-03 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Some useful readings on the topic:

How to reduce power consumption - ThinkWiki
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_reduce_power_consumption

HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling - Debian Wiki
http://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling

Good power management practices
http://www.codon.org.uk/~mjg59/power/good_practices.html
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Re: Why does the laptop battery last longer with Windows than with Debian?

2009-05-03 Thread Kaixi Luo
Thank you all for the helpful suggestions. I'll take a look at the links
you've provided. :)
Kaixi


Re: List of installed package sortet by installed size

2009-05-03 Thread Elimar Riesebieter
* Sven Joachim [090503 11:57 +0200]
 On 2009-05-03 10:44 +0200, Elimar Riesebieter wrote:
 
  How can I create a list of installed packages sortet by installed
  size?
 
 Install the dctrl-tools package and run the command
 
 grep-status -FStatus -sInstalled-Size,Package -n \
   install ok installed | paste -sd   \n | sort -n
 
 Don't give me any credit for this tip, I just pasted it from the
 grep-dctrl manpage. :-)

That is exactly what I as looking for.
Thanks

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Is it possible to prevent emacs auto saving the filename~?

2009-05-03 Thread 明覺
I know that emacs auto save a file named filename~ when I modified the
file filename, but I do not like the autosaved copy, could i stop this
function? thanks

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Re: BSD handbook - was Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

2009-05-03 Thread Neal Hogan
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
 On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:


 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:

 On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:

 FYI - While many of the fBSD folks will tout there ports/package
 system, I found it to be a pain (especially the upgrade), as did many
 others. There has recently been some chatter on their general mailing
 list to overhaul how they handle packages. Again, I found oBSD's
 package handling system to be superior.

 Last I looked (last week), OBSD doesn't have security updates (patches)
 for their packages; they only provide patches for the base release.  If
 you want to run -current, then the packages get security patches.  Since
 I'm on dialup, that would mean a lot of bandwidth time; basically, every
 time firefox or some third-party app required a security fix, I'd have
 to download the source for _everything_ and recompile _everything_.

 I don't want to labor this point here, but just one more thing. If you
 are going to follow current, the recommended way to go about it is to
 do binary upgrades of the kernel (i.e, snapshots). You don't have to
 compile src every time. The same goes for packages, binary snapshots
 of which are updated every few months or so (probably not that often).

 http://www.openbsd.org/faq/current.html



 Ah.

 Maybe it's too complicated for me.

 I was only ever a user on someone else's (educational instritution's) BSD
 system, and did not do, or learn, sysadmin on BSD.

 As a Linux user since around Red Hat 4 or 5, I have never compiled anything
 in Linux, and have relied on package management, and have had problems with
 software that involved using.tar.gz files to install, to the extent that I
 gave up on any package that involved using .tar.gz files to install.

 So, if BSD is more complicated than using package management like RPM in Red
 Hat and .deb in Debian/Ubuntu, then it is probably too complicated for me.


It's not . . . http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html


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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

2009-05-03 Thread John Hasler
Bret Busby wrote:
 Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo facility for
 users, the package management (both adding/removing packages, and,
 downloading and installing updates, and using synaptic) will work by
 entering only the root password.

The package management software just needs root privileges.  It doesn't
care how it got them.

Nobody is suggesting anything exotic here.  Sudo is intended to be
configured by the system administrator.  That's you.
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Re: etch make of 2.6.29 kernel is Broken.

2009-05-03 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Martin McCormick wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom writes:

So what's 'y' in /home/martin/linux-2.6.29/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh?


This is an excellent question. That particular application
/home/martin/linux-2.6.29/scripts/gen_initramfs_list.sh
is a 294-line bash script 


snip

I am afraid to upgrade kernel-package because of the new version and the 
scripts.


But is it possible to add 'set -x' to that particular script and then 
see where it fails?


Hugo


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stopwatch/worktime program?

2009-05-03 Thread Micha Feigin
I'm looking for some program to follow my work time on different projects,
preferably something that can plug into the xfce, or if not the gnome panel.

I'm working on different projects for different people and I need to report
work hours and it's a bit hard for me to follow the times by writing them down
as I tend to work on and off for short times during the day. I want something
like a stopwatch, preferable that would be able to keep a few of them around.
If they can later give me an history, it's even better.

Thanks


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Re: Is it possible to prevent emacs auto saving the filename~?

2009-05-03 Thread tyler
明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com writes:

 I know that emacs auto save a file named filename~ when I modified the
 file filename, but I do not like the autosaved copy, could i stop this
 function? thanks

Set auto-save-default to nil, as explained in the Emacs manual:

(info (emacs)Auto Save Control)

Adding

(setq auto-save-default nil)

to your .emacs will do this automatically.

Cheers,

Tyler

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Re: BSD handbook - was Re: debiantutorials.org seeks input and new blood

2009-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:01:39AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:
 On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Bret Busby b...@busby.net wrote:
  On Sat, 2 May 2009, Neal Hogan wrote:
  On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 9:30 AM, Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:
  On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 06:27:44AM -0500, Neal Hogan wrote:

  So, if BSD is more complicated than using package management like RPM in Red
  Hat and .deb in Debian/Ubuntu, then it is probably too complicated for me.
 
 
 It's not . . . http://www.openbsd.org/ports.html

The ports system works very easily, very similar to apt-get.  However,
right now, they don't have security updates for ports in -stable.

If you run -current and want to update a port, AFAIK, you have to
upgrade to the next snapshot for the whole system.  For me, that's a lot
of bandwidth on dialup.

Doug.


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Re: why must emacs depend on sound packages?

2009-05-03 Thread John Hasler
Harry Rickards writes:
 Also, although GNU Emacs was written by GNU and GNU's Not UNIX, I think
 (someone correct me if I'm wrong here) it was originally written for
 UNIX.

Emacs was originally written by Richard Stallman for ITS.
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Re: debian apt somehow created python hell - help!

2009-05-03 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 03:06:54PM -0400, Walter Lundby lun...@ameritech.net 
was heard to say:
 dpkg: warning - old pre-removal script returned error exit status 1
 dpkg - trying script from the new package instead ...
 WARNING: python-gtk2-doc.private does not exist.
 Some bytecompiled files may be left behind.
 Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/sbin/update-python-modules, line 437, in module
public_packages[package].install(need_postinstall)
  File /usr/sbin/update-python-modules, line 232, in __getitem__
self[name] = SharedFileList (path)
  File /usr/sbin/update-python-modules, line 146, in __init__
for line in file(path):
 IOError: [Errno 21] Is a directory

  Something is going wrong with update-python-modules, which is in the
python-support package.  I don't know what, though.  I would suggest
that you write to debian-pyt...@lists.debian.org with this question --
they should know which package is at fault (I'm guessing that one of
your Python packages somehow corrupted the registry of installed
Python modules, but I don't know how to find out which one).

  Daniel


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webgui, gui

2009-05-03 Thread Erik Xavior
Are there any good GUIs, webGUIs for managing an Linux server? For
several use, like the mandriva directory server?
thanks


Re: Using UNRAR (create 1 iso from 19 archives)

2009-05-03 Thread Kelly Clowers
On Sat, May 2, 2009 at 17:48, Felix Miata mrma...@ij.net wrote:
 On 2009/05/02 09:15 (GMT-0700) David Fox composed:

 Felix Miata wrote:

 On http://www.dvdboard.de/forum/showthread.php?t=121319 are links to 19 RAR
 archives, plus md5, plus a .sfv file that contains a list of the 19 files
 with what looks like checksums, that I downloaded. I am instructed there

 Running unrar on the first part of the file should automatically bring
 in the other parts, which will create the file.

 Indeed it did. Clever. Not clever enough for the l and t options to give
 useful results, maybe because those answers are impossible without a complete
 x first?

According to your first email, you preceded the options with a dash,
which doesn't
work, and used a wildcard in the filename, which may also produce
strange results.


Cheers,
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Fw: stopwatch/worktime program?

2009-05-03 Thread Jozsef



Re: webgui, gui

2009-05-03 Thread Danesh Daroui


What kind of server? For example for print server you have CUPS web 
interface and for Samba as well.


D.


Erik Xavior wrote:
Are there any good GUIs, webGUIs for managing an Linux server? For 
several use, like the mandriva directory server?

thanks



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find tux comic picture help

2009-05-03 Thread Erik Xavior
does anyone knows/have that comic picture of tux the Linux penguin that:

- has four pictures in it
- it defines 4 levels of the knowledge of tux, who is symbolizing a
learning person
- the first one: tux is just a Linux fanboy; second: tux is working, and
say's: ...stupid rpm; three: I can't remember that:D sorry; four: tux has
a beard, and the picture says don't mess with it.

thank you, and sorry for the question, but I just can't find it on google :D
:S


Backing Up CMOS Settings Under Linux

2009-05-03 Thread Martin McCormick
I first thought it was my imagination, but I have had
two Dell Dimension computers change their boot drive order. I
don't know when it happens because they change to boot the hard
drive just after trying the floppy such that the CDROM is last.
This makes it hard to boot from any CDROM until the CMOS gets
changed back.

As a computer user who is blind, this is annoying
because one must look at the screen to set things back as there
is no network interface or serial port or much of anything else
up when in BIOS setup mode.

I would be perfectly happy with an application that read
the current settings, saved them to a file and then could force
them back in if necessary.

This may be that bug I read about concerning the lower
64KB of memory getting corrupted.

In any case, both Dells in question had the very same
thing happen to them with no other ill effects.

Of course, if you change it back, one can not make it
corrupt on demand. It's like a bolt out of the blue.

Martin McCormick WB5AGZ  Stillwater, OK 
Systems Engineer
OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group


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Re: Backing Up CMOS Settings Under Linux

2009-05-03 Thread Michael Pobega
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 03:19:50PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
 I first thought it was my imagination, but I have had
 two Dell Dimension computers change their boot drive order. I
 don't know when it happens because they change to boot the hard
 drive just after trying the floppy such that the CDROM is last.
 This makes it hard to boot from any CDROM until the CMOS gets
 changed back.
 
 As a computer user who is blind, this is annoying
 because one must look at the screen to set things back as there
 is no network interface or serial port or much of anything else
 up when in BIOS setup mode.
 

Perhaps you should try editing your /etc/fstab and mounting the devices
by their UUIDs, rather than their /dev/ names. I'd go into more detail,
but I have to head out; a quick Google search for mounting by UUID
should suffice.

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Funny packet dropping...?

2009-05-03 Thread Miguel Obliviemo

Dear list,

On natted lenny connected (or not) directly to a nice new Billion DSL
router by a nice new cable.  The first pair of ifconfigs connected,
the second disconnected.

Dropping 125,450,950 packets per second received from connected network.

Dropping 125,484,878 packets per second received from somewhere when
disconnected from network.

Hundreds of packets per microsecond?  Or am I making a mistake
somewhere here?

Can someone assure me that everything is okay, or tell me what's
going on?  Line noise from disconnected line?  Noise from space?
Invaders from space?  Something?

Thanks...

$ date; /sbin/ifconfig eth0; sleep 1; /sbin/ifconfig eth0; date
Sun May  3 17:12:10 CST 2009
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:8b:5f:64:c8
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::223:8bff:fe5f:64c8/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:11700444214 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:5917 (5.7 KiB)  TX bytes:8789 (8.5 KiB)
  Interrupt:252 Base address:0xa000

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:8b:5f:64:c8
  inet addr:192.168.1.1  Bcast:192.168.1.255  Mask:255.255.255.0
  inet6 addr: fe80::223:8bff:fe5f:64c8/64 Scope:Link
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:11825895164 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:5917 (5.7 KiB)  TX bytes:8789 (8.5 KiB)
  Interrupt:252 Base address:0xa000

Sun May  3 17:12:11 CST 2009
$


$ date; /sbin/ifconfig eth0; sleep 1; /sbin/ifconfig eth0; date
Sun May  3 17:14:26 CST 2009
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:8b:5f:64:c8
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:15804488472 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:5917 (5.7 KiB)  TX bytes:8789 (8.5 KiB)
  Interrupt:252 Base address:0xa000

eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:23:8b:5f:64:c8
  UP BROADCAST MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
  RX packets:20 errors:0 dropped:15929973350 overruns:0 frame:0
  TX packets:56 errors:0 dropped:0 overruns:0 carrier:0
  collisions:0 txqueuelen:1000
  RX bytes:5917 (5.7 KiB)  TX bytes:8789 (8.5 KiB)
  Interrupt:252 Base address:0xa000

Sun May  3 17:14:27 CST 2009
$


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Re: Backing Up CMOS Settings Under Linux

2009-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 05:32:28PM -0400, Michael Pobega wrote:
 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 03:19:50PM -0500, Martin McCormick wrote:
  I first thought it was my imagination, but I have had
  two Dell Dimension computers change their boot drive order. I
  don't know when it happens because they change to boot the hard
  drive just after trying the floppy such that the CDROM is last.
  This makes it hard to boot from any CDROM until the CMOS gets
  changed back.
  
  As a computer user who is blind, this is annoying
  because one must look at the screen to set things back as there
  is no network interface or serial port or much of anything else
  up when in BIOS setup mode.
  
 
 Perhaps you should try editing your /etc/fstab and mounting the devices
 by their UUIDs, rather than their /dev/ names. I'd go into more detail,
 but I have to head out; a quick Google search for mounting by UUID
 should suffice.
 
AIUI, the problem is how to boot from CDROM instead of the hard drive.
Can grub, booted by the bios, then boot a CDROM, or a floppy?

Doug.


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No AP associated - wicd

2009-05-03 Thread Ed Jabbour
Installed lenny on my brother's Dell, and trying to get wireless working.  
Everything (I think) is setup the same as on my machine, where wireless works 
with wicd as the network manager.  On the Dell, wlan0's there, iwlist scan 
picks up the neighborhood networks, including this one.  However,  it cannot 
get an IP and iwconfig shows Access point Not-Associated.  Any 
help,pointers, appreciated.


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Re: tar up a symbolic linked directory

2009-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 09:04:38PM +, T o n g wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 I want to tar up a symbolic linked directory as if it is a real
 directory. Is there any easy way to do it?
 
 Let me explain with an example (that you can try):
 
  mkdir d1
  touch d1/{a,b,c}
  ln -s c d1/d
  ln -s d1 d2
 
 I want that the result tar file looks like this:
 
  tar -tvzf d2.tgz
  drwxrwx--x tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:38 d2/
  -rw-rw tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:37 d2/a
  -rw-rw tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:37 d2/b
  -rw-rw tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:37 d2/c
  lrwxrwxrwx tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:38 d2/d - c
 
 Any easy way to do it? 

add -h to the tar parameters.  It dereferences the symbolic lyinks.
However, then you won't get the d2/d - c reference.

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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

2009-05-03 Thread Douglas A. Tutty
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:29:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
 Bret Busby wrote:
  Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo facility for
  users, the package management (both adding/removing packages, and,
  downloading and installing updates, and using synaptic) will work by
  entering only the root password.
 
 The package management software just needs root privileges.  It doesn't
 care how it got them.
 
 Nobody is suggesting anything exotic here.  Sudo is intended to be
 configured by the system administrator.  That's you.

However, does the package management software (as aptitude does) store
user preferences in the home directory?  If, for example, you always run
aptitude as yourself then give it the root password when prompted, it
stores your preferences in your home directory.  If you later run
aptitude as root, those prefernces won't be active.  Also, vis-versa.

Doug.


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Re: No AP associated - wicd

2009-05-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 20:48, Ed Jabbour e...@att.net wrote:
 Installed lenny on my brother's Dell, and trying to get wireless working.
 Everything (I think) is setup the same as on my machine, where wireless works
 with wicd as the network manager.  On the Dell, wlan0's there, iwlist scan
 picks up the neighborhood networks, including this one.  However,  it cannot
 get an IP and iwconfig shows Access point Not-Associated.  Any
 help,pointers, appreciated.

Did you search the mailling list archives? What's the chip the Dell is
using? Did you check that out? Someone suggested a kernel update to
get wireless going and it worked for my particular case.

Also, silly at it may be, be sure you have to correct security
configuration, especially the password. And wpasuplicant may be useful
for your particular needs.

HTH
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Installation problem Lenny and Etch on PPC Powerbook 3400

2009-05-03 Thread Tom W.
Hi, I'm having problems getting into the installer on the ppc net
install iso of either lenny or etch for ppc.
I have bootx installed, pointing at the ramdisk and kernel from the
CD, ram disk size 8192
i put a kernel argument in for my video
I click on the Linux button and then after a few seconds, the screen
goes black and it just says Welcome to Linux PowerPC yata yata just
that one line and sits there - no sound from the CD or HD...
The same settings work fine when I install xubuntu on the same computer.
And my etch CD worked fine when I installed it to my Wallstreet powerbook.
Is there any reason Lenny or ETch wouldn't work on a pre-G3 like the
3400? I can't find anything in the documents that says so.
The PB has 80 meg of ram, 5 gig drive 180mhz processor.
I looked in the archives for this problem, but couldn't find anything
Thanks
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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

2009-05-03 Thread Nuno Magalhães
  [...] If you later run
 aptitude as root, those prefernces won't be active.  Also, vis-versa.

So copy them?


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Re: stopwatch/worktime program?

2009-05-03 Thread Mark Shroyer
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 03:48:18PM +0300, Micha Feigin wrote:
 I'm looking for some program to follow my work time on different projects,
 preferably something that can plug into the xfce, or if not the gnome panel.
 
 I'm working on different projects for different people and I need to report
 work hours and it's a bit hard for me to follow the times by writing them down
 as I tend to work on and off for short times during the day. I want something
 like a stopwatch, preferable that would be able to keep a few of them around.
 If they can later give me an history, it's even better.

If you don't mind a command line solution, there's timeclock:

http://zwiki.org/repos/ledger/doc/ledger/Using-timeclock-to-record-billable-time.html

This is actually an auxiliary part of Jason Wiegley's ledger CLI
accounting system; it outputs a plaintext log that can be used as input
for ledger itself.  Emacs and Vim integration is provided.

Ledger is packaged in Testing (apt-get install ledger).  If like me
you're running Lenny, you can build it from source after downloading
here:

http://github.com/jwiegley/ledger/

There is no xfce or gnome panel integration that I am aware of, however.

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Re: Is it possible to prevent emacs auto saving the filename~?

2009-05-03 Thread tyler
tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca writes:

 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com writes:

 I know that emacs auto save a file named filename~ when I modified the
 file filename, but I do not like the autosaved copy, could i stop this
 function? thanks

 Set auto-save-default to nil, as explained in the Emacs manual:

 (info (emacs)Auto Save Control)

 Adding

 (setq auto-save-default nil)

 to your .emacs will do this automatically.


Oops! My mistake - this will turn off the auto-save feature, but what
you were asking about was the backup feature, which is something
different. It's controlled the same way though:

(setq make-backup-files nil)

Details here:

(info (emacs)Backup)

Cheers,

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Package search in local repository

2009-05-03 Thread Malte Forkel
Hi,

is there a package that provides the functionality of the Debian package
search, i.e.
http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages.en.html#search_packages? I would
like to search a local mirror of the Debian repository for packages and
their contents.

Thanks,
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Re: vmware 1.0.8 (or .9) with 2.6.29

2009-05-03 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Alex Samad wrote:

Hi

Has any one been able to compile the kernel module for this kernel ?



I have.
As usual you need a fix:
http://www.saarlinux.de/blog/?p=5

which is contained in here:
http://communities.vmware.com//thread/188410?tstart=0

replace the tars in vmware-server-distrib/lib/modules/source by the ones 
on the first link above.



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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

2009-05-03 Thread Raquel
On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:18:49 -0400
Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:

 On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:29:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
  Bret Busby wrote:
   Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo
   facility for users, the package management (both
   adding/removing packages, and, downloading and installing
   updates, and using synaptic) will work by entering only the
   root password.
  
  The package management software just needs root privileges.  It
  doesn't care how it got them.
  
  Nobody is suggesting anything exotic here.  Sudo is intended to be
  configured by the system administrator.  That's you.
 
 However, does the package management software (as aptitude does)
 store user preferences in the home directory?  If, for example, you
 always run aptitude as yourself then give it the root password when
 prompted, it stores your preferences in your home directory.  If
 you later run aptitude as root, those prefernces won't be active.
 Also, vis-versa.
 
 Doug.
 

I don't think that aptitude will run as $user, Douglas.  It always
runs as root.  At least, that's what it's always told me when I've
mistakenly tried to run it as $user.

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Which word list file is used by aspell?

2009-05-03 Thread Foss User
I am using Debian Squeeze (Testing).

Can someone please help me in finding out which word list file is used
by 'aspell' command to match words?

Here is an example:

$ echo pacier orbier | aspell list
orbier

So, aspell identifies the word pacier but unable to find orbier. I
am unable to find on my system which has the word, pacier. Please
help.


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Re: tar up a symbolic linked directory

2009-05-03 Thread Cameron Hutchison
Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca writes:

On Sat, May 02, 2009 at 09:04:38PM +, T o n g wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 I want to tar up a symbolic linked directory as if it is a real
 directory. Is there any easy way to do it?
 
 Let me explain with an example (that you can try):
 
  mkdir d1
  touch d1/{a,b,c}
  ln -s c d1/d
  ln -s d1 d2
 
 I want that the result tar file looks like this:
 
  tar -tvzf d2.tgz
  drwxrwx--x tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:38 d2/
  -rw-rw tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:37 d2/a
  -rw-rw tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:37 d2/b
  -rw-rw tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:37 d2/c
  lrwxrwxrwx tong/tong 0 2009-05-01 09:38 d2/d - c
 
 Any easy way to do it? 

add -h to the tar parameters.  It dereferences the symbolic lyinks.
However, then you won't get the d2/d - c reference.

I can't see that it would be possible to dereference the top-level
symlink but no others. No commands that I know of support selective
symlink dereferencing, except find(1) with -H.

That lead me to try:
$ find -H d2 | cpio -o -L -H ustar  d2.tar

This comes close, storing d2/d as a link, but as a hardlink, not a
symlink.


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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

2009-05-03 Thread Mark Allums

Raquel wrote:

On Sun, 3 May 2009 10:18:49 -0400
Douglas A. Tutty dtu...@vianet.ca wrote:


On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 07:29:07AM -0500, John Hasler wrote:

Bret Busby wrote:

Before I try it, please advise whether, in removing the sudo
facility for users, the package management (both
adding/removing packages, and, downloading and installing
updates, and using synaptic) will work by entering only the
root password.

The package management software just needs root privileges.  It
doesn't care how it got them.

Nobody is suggesting anything exotic here.  Sudo is intended to be
configured by the system administrator.  That's you.

However, does the package management software (as aptitude does)
store user preferences in the home directory?  If, for example, you
always run aptitude as yourself then give it the root password when
prompted, it stores your preferences in your home directory.  If
you later run aptitude as root, those prefernces won't be active.
Also, vis-versa.

Doug.



I don't think that aptitude will run as $user, Douglas.  It always
runs as root.  At least, that's what it's always told me when I've
mistakenly tried to run it as $user.




It runs as user (in GUI mode), but it won't attempt to make changes to 
the system until you authenticate as root (become root).


In command-line, I guess you must be root.  But you can use sudo -c 
exec aptitude, I think, or something similar, if you are weird enough.


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Re: debian and ubuntu - answer from user not pretending to be guru

2009-05-03 Thread Adrian Levi
2009/5/4 Mark Allums m...@allums.com:
 Raquel wrote:
 I don't think that aptitude will run as $user, Douglas.  It always
 runs as root.  At least, that's what it's always told me when I've
 mistakenly tried to run it as $user.

 It runs as user (in GUI mode), but it won't attempt to make changes to the
 system until you authenticate as root (become root).

 In command-line, I guess you must be root.  But you can use sudo -c exec
 aptitude, I think, or something similar, if you are weird enough.

 Mark Allums

In CLI mode it will run as user for no changes to the system.

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Re: Is it possible to prevent emacs auto saving the filename~?

2009-05-03 Thread 明覺
On Sun, May 3, 2009 at 9:58 PM, tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote:
 tyler tyler.sm...@mail.mcgill.ca writes:

 明覺 shi.min...@gmail.com writes:

 I know that emacs auto save a file named filename~ when I modified the
 file filename, but I do not like the autosaved copy, could i stop this
 function? thanks

 Set auto-save-default to nil, as explained in the Emacs manual:

 (info (emacs)Auto Save Control)

 Adding

 (setq auto-save-default nil)

 to your .emacs will do this automatically.

thank you, now I prefer the way to keep all the backup and autosave
files in a seperate directory, such as ~/.emacs.d/autosave and
~/.emacs.d/backup, how could i setup that?  I'm not familiar with
emacs, currently in my machine, there is only the ~/.emacs.d/
directory which seems relative to emacs setup. Could you help give a
document that details the setup steps for those purpose? thanks



 Oops! My mistake - this will turn off the auto-save feature, but what
 you were asking about was the backup feature, which is something
 different. It's controlled the same way though:

 (setq make-backup-files nil)

 Details here:

 (info (emacs)Backup)

 Cheers,

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xorg hangs.

2009-05-03 Thread Magicloud Magiclouds
Hi,
  I am using debian sid. Recently I installed a new box, after
installed xorg, I started it.
  It displayed a black desktop with my wm. Keyboard/Mouse/Screen are
all freezing. Even ctrl alt backspace does not work.
  I have to remote login and kill the session.
  And there is (EE) in Xorg's log
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Re: xorg hangs.

2009-05-03 Thread widux
Hi,

maybe this info from sidux.com and the links is helpful for you:
http://sidux.com/Article505.html
Greetings

Am Montag 04 Mai 2009 05:32:37 schrieb Magicloud Magiclouds:
 Hi,
   I am using debian sid. Recently I installed a new box, after
 installed xorg, I started it.
   It displayed a black desktop with my wm. Keyboard/Mouse/Screen are
 all freezing. Even ctrl alt backspace does not work.
   I have to remote login and kill the session.
   And there is (EE) in Xorg's log
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Gnome problem under squeeze/amd64

2009-05-03 Thread Juan Lavieri

Hi all,

I'm having this problem:

I recently installed squeeze amd64 in my laptop and after that I recived 
the gdm login screen.  I tried to login with my normal user account 
(juan) and after I do so,  I receive a blank screen.  I'm able to use 
cntl + alt + f1 - f6 terminals, I can login and execute any console 
command.  But if I back again to the graphical desktop and kill the x 
server with cntl + alt + backspace, I receive the login prompt again but 
if I proceed, now I'm still having the black screen not even the 
graphical desktop but in the character terminals cntl + alt+ f1 -f6 
also.  These consoles are operative because if I execute commands like 
reboot or halt for example, they are executed;  the problem is that I 
can't see anything.


Making some tests I detected that if I discard gnome use and login into 
a twm session everythings works without problem.  The same is true if I 
login into gnome _AS USER ROOT_, I mean I can work without troubles as 
root under gnome (dangerous I know, it's only a test) so I think it's 
not a xorg configuration problem.


Please if anyone has any idea of what's happening.  help me

Regards


Juan

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Re: Fw: stopwatch/worktime program?

2009-05-03 Thread Sudev Barar
 From: Micha Feigin
 Sent: 05/03/09 04:48 pm


 I'm looking for some program to follow my work time on different projects,
 preferably something that can plug into the xfce, or if not the gnome panel.


karm?

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Re: Question about get-selections

2009-05-03 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
In gtfp8h$20...@ger.gmane.org, Jörg-Volker Peetz wrote:
Besides the discussion about how to preserve the installed packages state,
 I would also backup the file /var/cache/debconf/config.dat which helps to
 restore the configuration of the configurable installed packages. But I
 don't know how to do it automatically.

debconf-get-selections and debconf-set-selections are your friends here.  I 
think I mentioned them in an earlier post.

debconf-utils: /usr/bin/debconf-get-selections
debconf: /usr/bin/debconf-set-selections
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