Re: should debian FAQ suggest "alpine" as an alternative to "pine"?
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Chris Burkhardt wrote: > Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > currently perusing the FAQ, section 5.10 asks, "where is pine?" > > since alpine is apparently available for debian, shouldn't that > > section at least mention that alternative? i've used alpine as a > > drop-in replacement for pine on fedora for quite some time. > > Yes, I think that would be a good idea. > > >is there a better place to make that suggestion? > > >From FAQ Section 16.2 "Feedback": > > Comments and additions to this document are always welcome. Please > send e-mail to doc-deb...@packages.debian.org, ... done. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Problems booting installation CDs
[x-posted to debian-am...@lists.debian.org, debian-b...@lists.debian.org, debian-u...@lists.debian.org] All, sorry for the wide distribution, but I wasn't sure which list this belonged on; feel free to reply only to me, or to me and just one list. Also, I'm not subscribed, so please keep me in to "to" line. Whenever I boot the Debian testing installation CD (haven't tried stable) it hangs at: (process:766) INFO: kbd-mode: setting console mode to Unicode (UTF-8) The rest of the screen is black, and this text is a few lines from the bottom of the screen. Other Linux distros (Ubuntu, Knoppix) have problems booting too. The strange thing is, Windows boots just fine, and I get the same error booting Debian's CD in Virtualbox. I am running: Mobo: Biostar TA770 A2+ SE -- Isaac Freeman memotype (at) gmail.com "The diversity of mankind is a basic postulate of our knowledge of human beings. But if mankind is diverse and individuated, then how can anyone propose equality as an ideal? Every year, scholars hold Conferences on Equality and call for greater equality, and no one challenges the basic tenet. But what justification can equality find in the nature of man? If each individual is unique, how else can he be made 'equal' to others than by destroying most of what is human in him and reducing human society to the mindless uniformity of the ant heap?" --Murray N. Rothbard
Re: inode question
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 2:09 AM, Eugene Apolinary wrote: > Could that be possible to find the same inode, just because of there are two > filesystems? Yes, of course. Each fs is independent of the other, hence it is possible to have two inode entries with the same number. Of course they'd not point to the same file. \ -- thanks for letting me change the magnetic patterns on your hard disk. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Playing 8-bit raw Audio with mplayer
Martin McCormick wrote: > mplayer -quiet -rawaudio samplesize=1:channels=1:rate=8000 -demuxer > rawaudio \ /tmp/ This was interesting experiment, but I don't hear such a thing. what do you see in ratio (see below) from mplayer for me it's ratio: 8000->8000 uname -a Linux maistor 2.6.30.4eko2 #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Aug 12 00:57:41 CEST 2009 i686 GNU/Linux cat /proc/asound/card*/codec* | grep Codec Codec: SigmaTel STAC9200 player -quiet -rawaudio samplesize=1:channels=1:rate=8000 -demuxer rawaudio /tmp/testfile MPlayer dev-SVN-r28048-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2008 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, Stepping: 6) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2 /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-sil-gentium/GenAI102.ttf doesn't look like a bitmap font description, ignoring. Cannot load bitmap font: /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-sil-gentium/GenAI102.ttf mplayer: could not connect to socket mplayer: No such file or directory Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control. Playing /tmp/testfile. rawaudio file format detected. == Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder AUDIO: 8000 Hz, 1 ch, u8, 64.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 8000->8000) Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM) == AO: [oss] 8000Hz 1ch u8 (1 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... Exiting... (End of file) eman...@maistor:/tmp$ mplayer -quiet -rawaudio samplesize=1:channels=1:rate=8000 -demuxer rawaudio /tmp/testfile MPlayer dev-SVN-r28048-4.3.2 (C) 2000-2008 MPlayer Team CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU T7200 @ 2.00GHz (Family: 6, Model: 15, Stepping: 6) CPUflags: MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1 Compiled for x86 CPU with extensions: MMX MMX2 SSE SSE2 ... Playing /tmp/testfile. rawaudio file format detected. == Opening audio decoder: [pcm] Uncompressed PCM audio decoder AUDIO: 8000 Hz, 1 ch, u8, 64.0 kbit/100.00% (ratio: 8000->8000) Selected audio codec: [pcm] afm: pcm (Uncompressed PCM) == AO: [oss] 8000Hz 1ch u8 (1 bytes per sample) Video: no video Starting playback... Exiting... (End of file) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive. [SOLVED]
On Saturday 22 August 2009 08:47 pm, Kelly Clowers wrote: > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 09:09, Florian Kulzer [[[snip]]] Thank everyone for the advice. I now know what to do to solve the problem. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problem compiling kernel
Bernard wrote: > > 2.6.30.4 does compile all right, so does 2.6.26, but 2.6.20 does not. you find out why in the archives > Problem is that I still can't boot those I compiled, i.e. 2.6.26. because > the initrd.img is buggy. I did find something, still it is not enough to > get the process to work. In my > > /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf file, I found a modified line : > > # Command to generate the initrd image. > # MKIMAGE='mkcramfs %s %s > /dev/null' this has been changed august 19, > # 2009 > > MKIMAGE='genromfs -d %s -f %s' > > The change date has not been written by me, so this must be a conf file > that came with a recent package upgrade that I did. I tried uncommenting > the old line, commenting the new one instead. MKIMAGE='mkcramfs... became > active. What gave me this idea, is that in those error messages that I > could see at crash, it was matter of cramfs. > > Well that change made mkinitrd to produce smaller images. I tried > installing them in the grub boot menu, and then, now, the boot crashes do > not happen at the same time as before... but it still crashes ! > > I could do nothing else than catch photos of my screen, since no log file > are recorded in such cases. > > http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/bootcrash1.jpg so this is the old error, and you don't need a fix for it > > and > > http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/bootcrash2.jpg > > will show you what I got > > The first crash screen is not very informative : > " > could not load '/lib/modules... no such files" I don't think so it's as informative as it should be. It can not mount sdb2 (is it your root?) > > (these files exist, but at this point in time it is not in the /boot > partition, therefore not mounted as yet). This crash came from a kernel > which I had configure to have RAID inside, not as modules. While watching > the boot logs of my working kernel, I could see that RAID was as modules. > So, I recompiled a new kernel with modules for RAID, and then boot went a > little bit further, as can be seen in the screen picture at crash : > > 'raid1 set md1 active with 2 out of 2 mirrors > > mdadm : /dev/md1 has been started with 2 drives' > > but then : > > 'mkdir cannot create directory '/devfs/vg00' : read only filesystem > .. > > failure to communicate to kernel device mapper driver > incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.00-ioctl (2005-01-17) (compat) and kernel > driver' > The problem is as far as I remember that devfs was given up ... was it something that worked with hotplug ... I really don't remember right now, but there was a change affecting devmapper. I think you have to read about it, perhaps replace it and recreate initrd. Compiling md in the kernel is the right approach to boot from raided root without initrd. You can try this just skipping (deleteing the line in grub temporary) > I think that this last quoted line does most explain that the tools I am > using are not appropriate. > > I have good grounds to think that the problems are in my initrd.img > file... but there may also be something wrong in the compiled kernel > image. try without initrd (with custom kernel, you can put everything you need inside it (i.e filesystem support ide/ata etc) you then can access your root partition and the boot process will continue from there. The initrd is only needed to load drivers which helps you do the above. Because you are using lvm, if not using initrd you need to compile also lvm inside the kernel. > > Could someone please tell me what tool packages to purge and what to > install instead so that I can recompile a 2.6.26 or 2.6.30 kernel that > will boot on my Debian 3.1 system with raid 1 ? > There are good howtos for upgrading from sarg -> etch and etch -> lenny. You definitely better use udev ... devmapper is not needed anymore as far as I know. I did it last year ... and yes there were some troubles with the initrds ... I could send you my scripts for building your own initrd ( I have used them to build initrd for crypted root - before it started working in debian), though I've already posted a 5step howto fix broken boot initrd - try init=/bin/sh option ;-) and fix the boot by hand - you'll see what you are missing You could just copy over a working image and initrd (from some live cd/dvd) edit grub and reboot - this should work. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 09:09, Florian Kulzer wrote: > > On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:16:43 +0200, Peter Beck wrote: > > > On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > [...] > > > > I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of > > > them > > > into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. > > > > AFAIK the Sandisk Cruzers are U3 Sticks and i think the U3 System is > > shown as a CD-Drive and the storage as usb drive. There is a Tool from > > Sandisk to disable the U3 functionality and use the sticks without this > > software, but it's a windows executable. > > http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/ > > The u3-tool package is available in the Debian main archive, but only > for Squeeze and Sid. You can kill U3 without that utility. I did it once, with Parted I believe. Cheers, Kelly Clowers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: HOWTO run xorg without hal
Dirk wrote: > some true asshole decreased linux' value as an alternative to windows by > making hal a dependency(!) of xorg now... I agree that this is objectionable. In any case, "dpkg --force-help" should tell you what you need to know in order to get rid of hal. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: dialing phone numbers
Pol wrote: > Any hints about dialing numbers by your laptop keyboard to a phone connected > through modem? chat (in the ppp package). -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: To synchronize system time witn NTP-server with no winter time shift whole year - how to?
Strong and Humble writes: > What I want(ed) is that my system show always the same time regardless of > the winter time and I yet could synchronize my system w/ NTP-servers. I > know that the servers are in UTC. But the problem w/ me was that once the > 'winter time' comes and I synchronize my system w/ NTP-server, I get time > offset too, notwithstanding I want to escape it. Ntp and "winter time" are unrelated. > What seemed me od with dpkg-reconfigure is that I had to choose wrong GMT > offset in order system shows true time. How is your hardware (i.e., BIOS) clock set? Do you have "UTC=yes" in /etc/default/rcS? -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Playing 8-bit raw Audio with mplayer
Tzafrir Cohen writes: > In the worst case, convert it to a wav file: > > sox -r8000 -u -c1 -8 streamfile file.wav That definitely does work. Thanks. It turned out I was reading the wrong part of the man page so searches for what one might think works turned up nothing. It turns out that the following will directly play the file: mplayer -quiet -rawaudio samplesize=1:channels=1:rate=8000 -demuxer rawaudio \ /tmp/rawaudio.tmp I did discover an interesting little bug that is either a misunderstanding on my part or an off-by-one situation. If you listen to the dump with headphones or a good pair of speakers, you can hear a rhythmic throbbing effect with a rate of about 1 throb per second. It reminds me of the effect you get when the tape guides on a tape machine are allowing the tape to scue a little so the movement over the head is not perfectly horizontal. You almost don't notice it but it is there at times and somewhat annoying. It made me wonder if the codec was feeding audio that was being sampled a little faster than it should be. I changed the sample rate to 8001 and the throb effect doubled in speed, telling me that this was the problem but I had gone in the wrong direction. At 7999, the throb is totally gone and the effect is the same as what you get if you cat a raw audio file directly to /dev/dsp. For all I know, it might not even show up on another computer with a different sound card and possibly a different time base. I tried it on a computer I use at work that has a SBLive sound card and I think I did still hear the slight throb effect. I have since subscribed to the mplayer list and will post this same description to see if somebody else can shed some light/sound knowledge as to why the slight timing problem. Martin McCormick WB5AGZ Stillwater, OK Systems Engineer OSU Information Technology Department Telecommunications Services Group -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: should debian FAQ suggest "alpine" as an alternative to "pine"?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > currently perusing the FAQ, section 5.10 asks, "where is pine?" > since alpine is apparently available for debian, shouldn't that > section at least mention that alternative? i've used alpine as a > drop-in replacement for pine on fedora for quite some time. Yes, I think that would be a good idea. >is there a better place to make that suggestion? >From FAQ Section 16.2 "Feedback": Comments and additions to this document are always welcome. Please send e-mail to doc-deb...@packages.debian.org, or submit a wishlist bug report against the debian-faq package. - Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: KDE status in Squeeze/testing?
Andrew M.A. Cater schreef: > Where are we at the moment with KDE installability in Squeeze? I'm running KDE in Squeeze, and its mostly functional. I haven't noticed any serious issues. There are some general problems KDE still has, like not being able to change 'supersuer'-only settings in via the kde-config app. Also, the printing system is not yet up to the 3.5 quality. For the rest I think 4.2 is a huge improvement over kde 3.5. Sjoerd > > All best, > > AndyC > > signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
modifier keys stop working
I am repeatedly losing modifier-key function. I run an up-to-date Lenny system and use the window manager fvwm (2.5.26-1) so that I can mostly work from the command line. I also have a virtual XP machine (VM, VMware 1.06). If I use the VM for a few minutes (usually Photoshop, sometimes Acrobat), I find that SHIFT, CTRL, and ALT no longer modify what I enter in the Linux window. For example, CTRL-c, ALT-c, and SHIFT-c all just send `c'. The modulator keys all still function in the VMware window. I have not identified any particular sequence that causes the change. Shutting down the VM doesn't fix it. Exiting fvwm and calling startx again does. When I ran "dumpkeys -l" in the healthy and diseased states, the outputs were identical. In my previous build (Etch + fvwm 2.5.18-3 + VMware 1.0.4), I never had this problem. The questions ... 1. Any idea what causes this or how to prevent it? I'm not optimistic here. 2. Can anyone suggest a command line that might restore the key functions so that I wouldn't have to shut down the window manager? 3. Finally, a fun puzzle (inspired by actual events). If I have a window up with text I want to save before shutting down the windows, how can I do the save without modifier keys? I can copy the text with the mouse, but then what? Redirect (< > << |) needs the SHIFT key. I can't terminate stdin with CTRL-d. I'm hoping to do better than scrot + OCR. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: problem compiling kernel
Emanoil Kotsev wrote: Emanoil Kotsev wrote: Sorry forgot to write Yes there is problem compiling the 2.6.20 with recent gcc The problem is the compiler. If you are compiling just grab the last version from kernel.org. 2.6.30.4 seems to be working fine Just to be objective the gnu compiler people said kernel people are wrong and vice versa. I didn't follow the discussion. I'm glad next kernels compile regards 2.6.30.4 does compile all right, so does 2.6.26, but 2.6.20 does not. Problem is that I still can't boot those I compiled, i.e. 2.6.26. because the initrd.img is buggy. I did find something, still it is not enough to get the process to work. In my /etc/mkinitrd/mkinitrd.conf file, I found a modified line : # Command to generate the initrd image. # MKIMAGE='mkcramfs %s %s > /dev/null' this has been changed august 19, 2009 MKIMAGE='genromfs -d %s -f %s' The change date has not been written by me, so this must be a conf file that came with a recent package upgrade that I did. I tried uncommenting the old line, commenting the new one instead. MKIMAGE='mkcramfs... became active. What gave me this idea, is that in those error messages that I could see at crash, it was matter of cramfs. Well that change made mkinitrd to produce smaller images. I tried installing them in the grub boot menu, and then, now, the boot crashes do not happen at the same time as before... but it still crashes ! I could do nothing else than catch photos of my screen, since no log file are recorded in such cases. http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/bootcrash1.jpg and http://www.teaser.fr/~bdebreil/bootcrash2.jpg will show you what I got The first crash screen is not very informative : " could not load '/lib/modules... no such files" (these files exist, but at this point in time it is not in the /boot partition, therefore not mounted as yet). This crash came from a kernel which I had configure to have RAID inside, not as modules. While watching the boot logs of my working kernel, I could see that RAID was as modules. So, I recompiled a new kernel with modules for RAID, and then boot went a little bit further, as can be seen in the screen picture at crash : 'raid1 set md1 active with 2 out of 2 mirrors mdadm : /dev/md1 has been started with 2 drives' but then : 'mkdir cannot create directory '/devfs/vg00' : read only filesystem .. failure to communicate to kernel device mapper driver incompatible libdevmapper 1.01.00-ioctl (2005-01-17) (compat) and kernel driver' I think that this last quoted line does most explain that the tools I am using are not appropriate. I have good grounds to think that the problems are in my initrd.img file... but there may also be something wrong in the compiled kernel image. Could someone please tell me what tool packages to purge and what to install instead so that I can recompile a 2.6.26 or 2.6.30 kernel that will boot on my Debian 3.1 system with raid 1 ? Thanks in advance for your help -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
KDE status in Squeeze/testing?
Where are we at the moment with KDE installability in Squeeze? All best, AndyC -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On Sat, Aug 22, 2009 at 17:16:43 +0200, Peter Beck wrote: > > On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: [...] > > I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of > > them > > into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. > > AFAIK the Sandisk Cruzers are U3 Sticks and i think the U3 System is > shown as a CD-Drive and the storage as usb drive. There is a Tool from > Sandisk to disable the U3 functionality and use the sticks without this > software, but it's a windows executable. http://u3-tool.sourceforge.net/ The u3-tool package is available in the Debian main archive, but only for Squeeze and Sid. -- Regards,| http://users.icfo.es/Florian.Kulzer Florian | -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
[OT] Online downloadable books
From: http://www.4shared.com I downloaded a book I was looking for: Takeuti-Zaring's Introduction to Axiomatic Set Theory. It comes in .djvu format. I'd be curious to know how it was formatted that way: certainly not by scanning it page to page. I think in future more and more books will be available on line, and many already are; but the problem is with old editions: either scanning them page after page, either re-write them from scratch. Another book I was looking for: Quine's Set Theory and Its Logic, was not anywhere in internet. Can anyone suggest a place where it's downloadable? Rodolfo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: debports
Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote: Hi, I want to install this: Package: kcontrol (4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6) [debports] So I changed my sources.list to: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib debports and did 'aot-get update' but got: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release Unable to find expected entry debports/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) What am I doing wrong? This explains: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPorts/Mirrors but i386 is not one of the ports... :-( Where do I get kcontrol for Sid? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On Saturday 22 August 2009 16:58:57 Mark Neidorff wrote: > On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:48 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I > > > still would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should > > > tell me how to fix the problem. > > > > > > My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora > > > Core 3 system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. > > > > > > I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of > > > them into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. > > > > By "the system", do you mean lines in dmesg, or the icon on your > > desktop? > > > > >Working > > > around this is easy, but what is causing the system to mis-identify the > > > Cruzer? The only things on the cruzer are the files that automatically > > > run under windows ("autorun.inf, LaunchU3.exe" which put a different > > > way of unounting the device on the screen, and a System subdirectory > > > and a Documents > > > subdirectory). > > Both on the desktop and in dmesg. Here is the relavent info from dmesg: > > Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) > sdc: Write Protect is off > sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 > sdc: assuming drive cache: write through > SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) > sdc: Write Protect is off > sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 > sdc: assuming drive cache: write through > sdc: sdc1 > Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray > Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 1 > usb-storage: device scan complete > > Looks like it is mounted twice? Another trail to follow,from one time I had a USB dongle to connect to the internet. Its a long time ago, so pls check everything back before applying: chmod a+w /dev/ttyUSB2 echo at+zcdrun=8 > /dev/ttyUSB2 Be sure to replace ttyUSB2 by your device. To get back the CD part of the device, do the same, but replace 8 by 9 Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
> On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: > This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I still > would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should tell me how > to > fix the problem. > > My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora Core 3 > system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. > > I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of them > into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. AFAIK the Sandisk Cruzers are U3 Sticks and i think the U3 System is shown as a CD-Drive and the storage as usb drive. There is a Tool from Sandisk to disable the U3 functionality and use the sticks without this software, but it's a windows executable. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On Saturday 22 August 2009 16:58:57 Mark Neidorff wrote: > On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:48 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > > On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > > This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I > > > still would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should > > > tell me how to fix the problem. > > > > > > My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora > > > Core 3 system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. > > > > > > I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of > > > them into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. > > > > By "the system", do you mean lines in dmesg, or the icon on your > > desktop? > > > > >Working > > > around this is easy, but what is causing the system to mis-identify the > > > Cruzer? The only things on the cruzer are the files that automatically > > > run under windows ("autorun.inf, LaunchU3.exe" which put a different > > > way of unounting the device on the screen, and a System subdirectory > > > and a Documents > > > subdirectory). > > Both on the desktop and in dmesg. Here is the relavent info from dmesg: > > Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 > Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) > sdc: Write Protect is off > sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 > sdc: assuming drive cache: write through > SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) > sdc: Write Protect is off > sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 > sdc: assuming drive cache: write through > sdc: sdc1 > Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 > Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 > Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 00 > sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray > Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 1 > usb-storage: device scan complete > > Looks like it is mounted twice? Have a look at usb-modeswitch. From man: Several new USB devices have their proprietary Windows drivers onboard, especially WAN don‐ gles. When plugged in for the first time, they act like a flash storage and start installing the driver from there. If the driver is already installed, the storage device vanishes and a new device, such as an USB modem, shows up. This is called the "ZeroCD" feature Hope it helps Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On 2009-08-22 09:58, Mark Neidorff wrote: On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:48 am, Ron Johnson wrote: On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I still would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should tell me how to fix the problem. My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora Core 3 system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of them into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. By "the system", do you mean lines in dmesg, or the icon on your desktop? Working around this is easy, but what is causing the system to mis-identify the Cruzer? The only things on the cruzer are the files that automatically run under windows ("autorun.inf, LaunchU3.exe" which put a different way of unounting the device on the screen, and a System subdirectory and a Documents subdirectory). Both on the desktop and in dmesg. Here is the relavent info from dmesg: Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) sdc: Write Protect is off sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 sdc: assuming drive cache: write through SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) sdc: Write Protect is off sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 sdc: assuming drive cache: write through sdc: sdc1 Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 00 sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 1 usb-storage: device scan complete Looks like it is mounted twice? I bet there's a bug in udev, or maybe usbutils. -- Featuring GRATUITOUS ALIEN NUDITY -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gpgv
On 2009-08-22 00:46, Osamu Aoki wrote: [snip] Wait? I can not run apt-file either. Securit archive seems to lack Contents-i386.gz, Contents-ia64.gz, ... Funny. But not the "ha ha" funny. How does one file a bug about this? -- Featuring GRATUITOUS ALIEN NUDITY -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On Saturday 22 August 2009 10:48 am, Ron Johnson wrote: > On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: > > This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I > > still would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should tell > > me how to fix the problem. > > > > My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora > > Core 3 system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. > > > > I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of > > them into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. > > By "the system", do you mean lines in dmesg, or the icon on your > desktop? > > >Working around > > this is easy, but what is causing the system to mis-identify the Cruzer? > > The only things on the cruzer are the files that automatically run under > > windows ("autorun.inf, LaunchU3.exe" which put a different way of > > unounting the device on the screen, and a System subdirectory and a > > Documents > > subdirectory). Both on the desktop and in dmesg. Here is the relavent info from dmesg: Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 Type: Direct-Access ANSI SCSI revision: 00 SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) sdc: Write Protect is off sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 sdc: assuming drive cache: write through SCSI device sdc: 7856127 512-byte hdwr sectors (4022 MB) sdc: Write Protect is off sdc: Mode Sense: 45 00 00 08 sdc: assuming drive cache: write through sdc: sdc1 Attached scsi removable disk sdc at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 0 Vendor: SanDisk Model: SanDisk CruzerRev: 8.02 Type: CD-ROM ANSI SCSI revision: 00 sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x tray Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0 at scsi14, channel 0, id 0, lun 1 usb-storage: device scan complete Looks like it is mounted twice? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: gpgv
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 19:12:09 -0700 Raquel wrote: > > I've just reinstalled a very basic system onto that machine, Debian > Lenny, and will begin adding firewall, server software, etc. > However, I'm getting an error from aptitude. This happens when I run aptitude udpate > GPG error: http://security.debian.org testing/updates Release: > Unknown error executing gpgv > > I've run apt-get update as the error suggests and get the same error > using apt-get. > > I've installed debian-archive-keyring. > > I've installed ntp so the machine's time is correct. > > Does anyone know what's going on, and how to fix it? > I've tried every suggestion found when I google this problem. Does no one have an idea how to fix it? -- Raquel If women are expected to do the same work as men, we must teach them the same things. --Plato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
On 2009-08-22 09:16, Mark Neidorff wrote: This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I still would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should tell me how to fix the problem. My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora Core 3 system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of them into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. By "the system", do you mean lines in dmesg, or the icon on your desktop? Working around this is easy, but what is causing the system to mis-identify the Cruzer? The only things on the cruzer are the files that automatically run under windows ("autorun.inf, LaunchU3.exe" which put a different way of unounting the device on the screen, and a System subdirectory and a Documents subdirectory). -- Featuring GRATUITOUS ALIEN NUDITY -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
debports
Hi, I want to install this: Package: kcontrol (4:3.5.9.dfsg.1-6) [debports] So I changed my sources.list to: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ unstable main non-free contrib debports and did 'aot-get update' but got: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release Unable to find expected entry debports/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?) What am I doing wrong? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Wrong identification of a USB flash drive.
This is in the category of P.A.T. (Petty Annoyances and Tedium) but I still would like to know why it is happening. That knowledge should tell me how to fix the problem. My system is Lenny 5.02, but the same problem exists on an old Fedora Core 3 system, so it is not a Debian problem, per se. I just bought a 3 pack of Sandisk Cruzers (4Gb). When I insert any of them into a USB port, the system recognizes it as a CD drive. Working around this is easy, but what is causing the system to mis-identify the Cruzer? The only things on the cruzer are the files that automatically run under windows ("autorun.inf, LaunchU3.exe" which put a different way of unounting the device on the screen, and a System subdirectory and a Documents subdirectory). Thanks for the info. Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: inode question
--- On Sat, 8/22/09, Eugene Apolinary wrote: From: Eugene Apolinary Subject: inode question To: "debian-user@lists.debian.org" Date: Saturday, August 22, 2009, 9:09 AM Could that be possible to find the same inode, just because of there are two filesystems?e.g.: HDD is partitionedthank you
Re: .mov skipping?
On 2009-08-22 01:58, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: Ron Johnson wrote: RJ> On 2009-08-20 02:02, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: beautifully for nearly everything. every so often, though, i have a .mov file that doesn't play video smoothly - the audio sounds fine, but the video skips so badly that it appears to be more like a series of still images that vaguely line up every 3-10 seconds with the audio. i don't RJ> I'd run "file" or idvid[0] on a selection of QuickTime videos that RJ> both run smoothly and are choppy, to determine, for example, whether RJ> the choppy ones are HD or not. nope, all of the recent offenders report "ISO Media, Apple QuickTime movie" with file. the only working .movs i have around right now report either "data" or "Apple QuickTime movie (unoptimized)". perhaps it's an optimization problem then? uh, is that fixable? Like I said, run idvid on them. $ idvid 52704main_heliopause.mov idvid Video identification script Part of the tovid suite, version 0.31 http://www.tovid.org Analyzing file: '52704main_heliopause.mov'. This may take several minutes... = File: 52704main_heliopause.mov Width: 320 pixels Height: 240 pixels Aspect ratio: 1.33:1 Frames: 1030 Duration: 00:00:34 hours/mins/secs Framerate: 29.970 frames per second Video format: jpeg Video bitrate: 0 bits per second = Audio is compliant with the following formats: Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD No audio stream present Video is compliant with the following formats: Not compliant with (S)VCD or DVD This video does not seem to be compliant with (S)VCD or DVD standards. If you burn it to a video disc, it may not work. = -- Featuring GRATUITOUS ALIEN NUDITY -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Dean Sutherland wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the command you're >> after is apt-cache rdepends packagename >> >> d...@subspace:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.1 >> gcc-4.1 >> Reverse Depends: >> linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 >> gcc-doc-base >> gcc-doc-base >> gcc-4.1-doc >> gcc-4.1-doc >> gpc-4.1 >> gcj-4.4-jdk >> gcj-4.3 >> gcj-4.2 >> gcc-4.1-multilib >> gcc-4.1-multilib >> gcc-4.1-locales >> g++-4.1 >> >> It appears not all of those packages will be removed if you remove the >> gcc-4.1 package. >> >> d...@subspace:~$ sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.1-base >> Reading package lists... Done >> Building dependency tree >> Reading state information... Done >> The following packages will be REMOVED: >> cpp-4.1 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 >> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 394 not upgraded. > > yes, it look like that's what i was after, thanks. (how many > package management commands and alternatives *are* there in debian? > :-) > > so the question now becomes, if i run that command on both > gcc-4.2-base and gcc-4.3-base, it looks like (not surprisingly) the > 4.2 package has lots of 4.2-related reverse dependencies, and likewise > for gcc-4.3-base. so do i really need the 4.2 stuff? > > if anyone has a fully-updated *lenny* system and they're willing to > run the same commands, is there anything about the output from the 4.2 > version that would suggest that it needs to be retained, given that > 4.3 is on the system? > > and on the system i'm upgrading, there are a number of packages that > are installed with more than one version. i'd just like to clean that > system by purging anything that has no value. > Just having a discussion on g++ list about 4.3 two days ago g++-4.3 is not able to compile older applications, which means everything older then may be two years ago depending on how isoC++ programmers have written the code. I'm actually considering removing 4.3 right now otherways I have to export CXX and CC everytime I do compile and this is annoying. regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
On Saturday 22 August 2009 12:52:54 Robert P. J. Day wrote: > so the question now becomes, if i run that command on both > gcc-4.2-base and gcc-4.3-base, it looks like (not surprisingly) the > 4.2 package has lots of 4.2-related reverse dependencies, and likewise > for gcc-4.3-base. so do i really need the 4.2 stuff? > > if anyone has a fully-updated *lenny* system and they're willing to > run the same commands, is there anything about the output from the 4.2 > version that would suggest that it needs to be retained, given that > 4.3 is on the system? > > and on the system i'm upgrading, there are a number of packages that > are installed with more than one version. i'd just like to clean that > system by purging anything that has no value. l...@tux:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.2 gcc-4.2 Reverse Depends: gcc-4.2-doc gcc-4.2-doc gobjc-4.2 gfortran-4.2 gcj-4.2 gcc-avr gcc-4.2-multilib gcc-4.2-multilib gcc-4.2-locales g++-4.2 cpp-4.2 l...@tux:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.3 gcc-4.3 Reverse Depends: gcc-4.3-doc gcc-4.3-doc protoize gobjc-4.3 gnat-4.3 gfortran-4.3 gcj-4.3 gcc-4.3-multilib gcc-4.3-locales gcc g++-4.3 g++ fixincludes l...@tux:~$ I've also got gcc-4.1, which has a much longer list of dependencies than either of those. HTH Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Strange log-rotate problem
On Saturday 22 August 2009 02:09:09 Sven Joachim wrote: > On 2009-08-22 01:08 +0200, Andrew Reid wrote: > > My problem is that I can't figure out who is rotating > > /var/log/auth.log. > > > > It's currently being rotated every day, and retained for a week. > > > If you are using sysklogd (the standard syslog daemon in Etch), the > answer is that it uses savelog, not logrotate. See bug #44523¹. > > The good news is that in Lenny and later, rsyslog² is the standard > syslog daemon, and it uses logrotate. Of course, upgrading an existing > system will not change your syslog daemon. Thanks, this is helpful. I found the sysklogd cron entries, but I further thought the daily one (in /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd) wasn't rotating auth.log -- it uses "syslogd-listfiles" to get the set of files to rotate daily, and when I ran it interactively, it returned an empty string. However, as a sanity check, I instrumented /etc/cron.daily/sysklogd, and sure enough, it *is* doing the mystery rotation. So, now I can adjust it to comply with policy, which solves the immediate problem. The remaining mystery is, why does the "syslogd-listfiles" give different answers interactively versus inside a cron script? Probably some environment thing. > > There is also an Etch backport of rsyslog, if you would like to use it > without upgrading to Lenny. I'll probably be upgrading to Lenny in a few weeks anyways, so I'll just wait, I think. However, I did want to mention that I am a big fan of backports, they've helped me out a lot over the years. -- A. -- Andrew Reid / rei...@bellatlantic.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Dean Sutherland wrote: > Hi, > > Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the command you're > after is apt-cache rdepends packagename > > d...@subspace:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.1 > gcc-4.1 > Reverse Depends: > linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 > gcc-doc-base > gcc-doc-base > gcc-4.1-doc > gcc-4.1-doc > gpc-4.1 > gcj-4.4-jdk > gcj-4.3 > gcj-4.2 > gcc-4.1-multilib > gcc-4.1-multilib > gcc-4.1-locales > g++-4.1 > > It appears not all of those packages will be removed if you remove the > gcc-4.1 package. > > d...@subspace:~$ sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.1-base > Reading package lists... Done > Building dependency tree > Reading state information... Done > The following packages will be REMOVED: > cpp-4.1 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 > 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 394 not upgraded. yes, it look like that's what i was after, thanks. (how many package management commands and alternatives *are* there in debian? :-) so the question now becomes, if i run that command on both gcc-4.2-base and gcc-4.3-base, it looks like (not surprisingly) the 4.2 package has lots of 4.2-related reverse dependencies, and likewise for gcc-4.3-base. so do i really need the 4.2 stuff? if anyone has a fully-updated *lenny* system and they're willing to run the same commands, is there anything about the output from the 4.2 version that would suggest that it needs to be retained, given that 4.3 is on the system? and on the system i'm upgrading, there are a number of packages that are installed with more than one version. i'd just like to clean that system by purging anything that has no value. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: Inquiry:Incorrectly built binary
* hadi motamedi: > Can you please do me favor and let me know what is the cause of the > following error message that I got when trying to run my application on the > Linux server : > "Incorrectly built binary which accesses errno, h_errno or _res directly. > Needs to be fixed." You need to include in source code files which refers to errno, instead of using "extern int errno;" or some other mechanism. If your application is qmail, there already exist patches. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 05:45:00 -0400 (EDT), rpj...@crashcourse.ca wrote: [snip] > > > > no, i want to go the *other* way -- to ask what > > currently-installed packages depend *on* a given, > > currently-installed package. > > actually, even though i was asking in the context of a system in the > process of upgrading on which there is all kinds of historical cruft > so i fully expect to find older versions of packages lying around, i > just noticed that the same thing happens on a fresh (and updated) > version of lenny (5.0.2). > > here are two currently installed packages (according to "dpkg -l"): > > gcc-4.2-base > gcc-4.3-base > > my immediate thought is -- why do i need both? it's quite possible i > *do*, but i don't know how to verify that. hence my question: how > can i display what installed packages allegedly depend on > gcc-4.2-base, so that i know it's actually required to be on my > system. i realize i can simulate trying to remove it to see what > would happen, but that strikes me as messy and overkill. > Hi, Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the command you're after is apt-cache rdepends packagename d...@subspace:~$ apt-cache rdepends gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1 Reverse Depends: linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 gcc-doc-base gcc-doc-base gcc-4.1-doc gcc-4.1-doc gpc-4.1 gcj-4.4-jdk gcj-4.3 gcj-4.2 gcc-4.1-multilib gcc-4.1-multilib gcc-4.1-locales g++-4.1 It appears not all of those packages will be removed if you remove the gcc-4.1 package. d...@subspace:~$ sudo apt-get remove gcc-4.1-base Reading package lists... Done Building dependency tree Reading state information... Done The following packages will be REMOVED: cpp-4.1 gcc-4.1 gcc-4.1-base linux-headers-2.6.26-1-686 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 4 to remove and 394 not upgraded. -- Dean Sutherland -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Inquiry:Incorrectly built binary
Dear All Can you please do me favor and let me know what is the cause of the following error message that I got when trying to run my application on the Linux server : "Incorrectly built binary which accesses errno, h_errno or _res directly. Needs to be fixed." Thank you in advance Regards H.Motamedi
should debian FAQ suggest "alpine" as an alternative to "pine"?
currently perusing the FAQ, section 5.10 asks, "where is pine?" since alpine is apparently available for debian, shouldn't that section at least mention that alternative? i've used alpine as a drop-in replacement for pine on fedora for quite some time. is there a better place to make that suggestion? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Niu Kun wrote: > > > Robert P. J. Day 写道: > > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Niu Kun wrote: > > > > > > > See if your 'apt-get' supports 'apt-get purge'. > > > > > > it does, but how does that solve my problem? should i try to > > > purge a package, then see what the result would be before saying > > > yes/no? > > > Yes. apt-get will ask you if you'd like to remove the related > > package. > > right, so i can always just use "--dry-run" if i want. > > > Or you can use 'apt-cache show `packagename`'. > > It'll list the related "Depends" package. > > no, i want to go the *other* way -- to ask what currently-installed > packages depend *on* a given, currently-installed package. actually, even though i was asking in the context of a system in the process of upgrading on which there is all kinds of historical cruft so i fully expect to find older versions of packages lying around, i just noticed that the same thing happens on a fresh (and updated) version of lenny (5.0.2). here are two currently installed packages (according to "dpkg -l"): gcc-4.2-base gcc-4.3-base my immediate thought is -- why do i need both? it's quite possible i *do*, but i don't know how to verify that. hence my question: how can i display what installed packages allegedly depend on gcc-4.2-base, so that i know it's actually required to be on my system. i realize i can simulate trying to remove it to see what would happen, but that strikes me as messy and overkill. rday p.s. i warned you there would be more trivial questions. :-) -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Niu Kun wrote: > Robert P. J. Day 写道: > > On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Niu Kun wrote: > > > > > > > See if your 'apt-get' supports 'apt-get purge'. > > > > > > > it does, but how does that solve my problem? should i try to > > purge a package, then see what the result would be before saying > > yes/no? > Yes. apt-get will ask you if you'd like to remove the related > package. right, so i can always just use "--dry-run" if i want. > Or you can use 'apt-cache show `packagename`'. > It'll list the related "Depends" package. no, i want to go the *other* way -- to ask what currently-installed packages depend *on* a given, currently-installed package. rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday
Re: safe to purge older versions of installed software?
Robert P. J. Day 写道: On Sat, 22 Aug 2009, Niu Kun wrote: See if your 'apt-get' supports 'apt-get purge'. it does, but how does that solve my problem? should i try to purge a package, then see what the result would be before saying yes/no? Yes. apt-get will ask you if you'd like to remove the related package. Or you can use 'apt-cache show `packagename`'. It'll list the related "Depends" package. Hope this will also help.:) rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
inode question
Could that be possible to find the same inode, just because of there are two filesystems?e.g.: HDD is partitionedthank you
safe to purge older versions of installed software?
this should be an easy one: on my current (etch) system, there are a number of packages that have more than one version installed. for example (and from memory), there are at least three versions of gcc installed. am i safe to remove/purge the older ones? perhaps a better question is, what is the command to list the packages that depend on a certain package? in fedora, i'm used to running: $ rpm -q --whatrequires so i can always ask whether anything depends on one of those older versions first. in particular, i noticed that most of those older versions of installed packages were "lib" packages, so it should be easy(?) to ask whether there's anything installed that needs an older version. if not, i should be ok to get rid of it, no? rday -- Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Annoying Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: encrypted DVDs on Lenny
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009, Girish Kulkarni wrote: Will try installing libdvdcss later today and see if that helps me play region 5 DVDs. But another question: libdvdcss is GPL'ed; why is it not in any of the Debian repositories then? I'm also hoping to find its legal status here in India. Just for the record: libdvdcss2 helped. Thanks! -- Girish Kulkarni - Allahabad, India - athene.org.in/girish -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: acpi video driver and 2.6.30
I reply myself It is a known probem: http://groups.google.co.kr/group/fa.linux.kernel/browse_thread/thread/000eb65f2fbe06a8 So I guess I must wait for it to be fixed. Thierry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org
Re: .mov skipping?
Ron Johnson wrote: RJ> On 2009-08-20 02:02, i'll teach you to turn away. wrote: >> beautifully for nearly everything. every so often, though, i have a .mov >> file that doesn't play video smoothly - the audio sounds fine, but the >> video skips so badly that it appears to be more like a series of still >> images that vaguely line up every 3-10 seconds with the audio. i don't RJ> I'd run "file" or idvid[0] on a selection of QuickTime videos that RJ> both run smoothly and are choppy, to determine, for example, whether RJ> the choppy ones are HD or not. nope, all of the recent offenders report "ISO Media, Apple QuickTime movie" with file. the only working .movs i have around right now report either "data" or "Apple QuickTime movie (unoptimized)". perhaps it's an optimization problem then? uh, is that fixable? lish cr...@got.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org