Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[shampavman]

Osamu Aoki wrote:

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:52:53AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
...
  
This means it attempted to sign the .dsc and .changes as "Joey Hess 
", probably because that's the author of the last changelog 
entry.  If you'll update the changelog to contain your name and email it will 
try and use your private key to sign the package.



dch -i


Anyway, shampavman needs to read:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
 
Also, for simple backport for user:

 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.ja.html#_porting_a_package_to_the_stable_system

also all the manaual pages of devscripts such as dch etc.

Osamu


  

Guys,
Eventhough I've changed the names to my name and my id in the changelog 
and the control files.. I still get the error.

Can you please tell me what mistake im doing?


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Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[shampavman]

Osamu Aoki wrote:

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:52:53AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
...
  
This means it attempted to sign the .dsc and .changes as "Joey Hess 
", probably because that's the author of the last changelog 
entry.  If you'll update the changelog to contain your name and email it will 
try and use your private key to sign the package.



dch -i


Anyway, shampavman needs to read:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
 
Also, for simple backport for user:

 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.ja.html#_porting_a_package_to_the_stable_system

also all the manaual pages of devscripts such as dch etc.

Osamu


  

Thanks a lot for all your help.
Will go through it and get back if i have any queries...
Thanks again

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Re: tail broken (?!) and devices not activating

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon,21.Sep.09, 22:17:39, Celejar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm seeing some really weird problems on my system.  I don't know if
> they're at all related, but I'll report them both in the same email, in
> case they are.
> 
> 1) tail -f stops working - I see the tail of the file, but it fails to
> refresh when content is added to the file.  What on earth could be
> causing this?  This is tail from coreutils - nothing fancy, no inotify
> dependency, just simple polling of the file!

$ ls -l ~/bin/less
lrwxrwxrwx 1 amp amp 40 2009-03-13 08:58 /home/amp/bin/less -> 
/usr/share/vim/vimcurrent/macros/less.sh

then 'less /var/log/messages' and press F. Enjoy the pretty colors ;)

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Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[Osamu Aoki]

On Tue, Sep 22, 2009 at 12:52:53AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
...
> This means it attempted to sign the .dsc and .changes as "Joey Hess 
> ", probably because that's the author of the last changelog 
> entry.  If you'll update the changelog to contain your name and email it will 
> try and use your private key to sign the package.

dch -i


Anyway, shampavman needs to read:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
 
Also, for simple backport for user:
 
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.ja.html#_porting_a_package_to_the_stable_system

also all the manaual pages of devscripts such as dch etc.

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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon,21.Sep.09, 21:46:37, Mike McClain wrote:
> 
> The only way I've found 'til now is to echo a string back and forth,
> as in:
> >>From the CLI:   echo 'some string' > /dev/pts/2
> >>From xterm: echo 'some string' > /dev/tty9
> 
> Awkward but less so than writing to a file.

One other way would be to use screen with -x

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Re: tail broken (?!) and devices not activating

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-09-22 04:17 +0200, Celejar wrote:

> I'm seeing some really weird problems on my system.  I don't know if
> they're at all related, but I'll report them both in the same email, in
> case they are.
>
> 1) tail -f stops working - I see the tail of the file, but it fails to
> refresh when content is added to the file.  What on earth could be
> causing this?  This is tail from coreutils - nothing fancy, no inotify
> dependency, just simple polling of the file!

In coreutils 7.5 tail has gone fancy and uses inotify if possible, see
the NEWS file.  It works for me, but there are some bugs that have been
fixed in 7.6 (which is not packaged for Debian yet) that may affect you.
Citing the coreutils 7.6 NEWS file:

  tail -f (inotify-enabled) now flushes any initial output before blocking.
  Before, this would print nothing and wait: stdbuf -o 4K tail -f /etc/passwd
  Note that this bug affects tail -f only when its standard output is buffered,
  which is relatively unusual.
  [bug introduced in coreutils-7.5]

  tail -f once again works with standard input.  inotify-enabled tail -f
  would fail when operating on a nameless stdin.  I.e., tail -f < /etc/passwd
  would say "tail: cannot watch `-': No such file or directory", yet the
  relatively baroque tail -f /dev/stdin < /etc/passwd would work.  Now, the
  offending usage causes tail to revert to its conventional sleep-based
  (i.e., not inotify-based) implementation.
  [bug introduced in coreutils-7.5]

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Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <4ab86311.1040...@gmail.com>, shampavman wrote:
>What does this mean?

>gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file
>`/home/shampavman/.gnupg/gpg.conf'

This means you have the wrong permissions on that file or the directory it is 
in.

>gpg: skipped "Joey Hess ": secret key not available
>gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available

This means it attempted to sign the .dsc and .changes as "Joey Hess 
", probably because that's the author of the last changelog 
entry.  If you'll update the changelog to contain your name and email it will 
try and use your private key to sign the package.
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Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[shampavman]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 15:27:11 shampavman wrote:
  

Im new to .deb packaging.. and learning it as a test I wanted to modify
the alien pkg such that it automatically creates a symlink from
/usr/bin/alien to /usr/sfw/bin/alien.. and thus i changed the rules file
appropriately... but when I do a build this is what I get


[...]
  

/bin/ln -s /usr/bin/alien /usr/sfw/bin/alien



/bin/ln is not the easiest beast to understand, but this creates the symlink 
"/usr/sfw/bin/alien" with the contents "/usr/bin/alien".  That is, a symlink 
from /usr/sfw/bin/alien to /usr/bin/alien, which is the reverse of what you 
want.


The order or arguments is ln is the same as the order of arguments to cp.  The 
new file you want created is the second argument.

 another problem
  
What I had written was correct.. But i had included it under a target 
which was recursively being executed and thats the reason it was trying 
to create the same link twice and was failing...

Anyway its built properly.. but I have one more issue..
What does this mean?
gpg: WARNING: unsafe ownership on configuration file 
`/home/shampavman/.gnupg/gpg.conf'

gpg: skipped "Joey Hess ": secret key not available
gpg: [stdin]: clearsign failed: secret key not available

dpkg-genchanges  >../alien_8.73.1_i386.changes
dpkg-genchanges: including full source code in upload
dpkg-buildpackage: full upload; Debian-native package (full source is 
included)

dpkg-buildpackage: warning: Failed to sign .dsc and .changes file

I'm getting a gpg error.. What is it that I need to change ?
I went into the changelog and changed details appropriately...
Could you please help.

Now I just started with it and want to learn.. can anyone direct me to the
mistakes i'm making!!



IIRC, you shouldn't be making the filesystem changes "live".  Anything you 
want installed by the package should be placed under ./$binary_package_name 
relative to debian/rules.  I'ven't finished my first package yet though.
  



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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Osamu Aoki]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:52:59AM -0700, Mike McClain wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:28:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
>  
> > Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode.  I fail 
> Earlier in this thread someone suggested editing /etc/default/exim4
> setting QUEUERUNNER='nodaemon'.
> When I tried this and the mail stopped getting delivered until I
> restored /etc/default/exim4.
> What is it I missed?
> This is a mostly Etch P1 system on dialup, if that matters.
> Thanks,
> Mike

Are you talking about delivering to external hosts?

Sure, that what you did unless you run some explicit command, cron script or 
hook script.

daemon has 2 functionalities:

 (1) listening to port 25 (SMTP) to get connected from external hosts.
 (2) pushing out queued messages to hosts.

You certainly do not need (1) but you still need to do (2) if you wish
to send mail to external host via local mail system like exim or
postfix.  (If you configure MUA to connect to external MTA directly this
is not issue.)

Simple fix is to use queueonly or ppp instead.  (Since you are dialup,
ppp is more suitable to save fee.)

As I think of this for mutt, it may be easier to create shell script
which runs "exim -q" or postfix's equivalent command when mutt
terminates or receive SIGTERM etc.  

If you are using pigeon etc, reconfiguring it to use external
relay host directly is your answer.

Please note that we are talking laptop type use case. 

 * /usr/sbin/sendmail is available and it can work with /etc/aliases.
 * log daemon may send some mail but to local user
 * send messages via smarthost with 
   - the message submission port (587) or 
   - SMTP/SSL port (465)
 * receive messages via ISP using getmail or fetchmail with
   - POP3 (110) or 
   - TLS/POP3 port (995).

Quite likely, you have cron or daemon doing POP3. I use cron to run
getmail every 15 min when IP connection is active.  I could stop exim
and run it from similar script.

FYI: my current getmail script run from user's cron:

#!/bin/sh
set -e
# if network is down, do nothing
if ip link show eth0 |fgrep -q "state DOWN" ; then exit 0; fi
#
rcfiles="/usr/bin/getmail"
if [ -f $rcfiles/stop ] ; then exit 0; fi
#
for file in $HOME/.getmail/config/* ; do
  rcfiles="$rcfiles --rcfile $file"
done
exec $rcfiles $@

 


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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Mike McClain]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 03:32:06PM -0400, Wayne Topa wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> >On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:
> >>[H]ow can I
> >>grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?
> >
> >I believe xclip  can do this. 
> > >command-line/>
> >
> >I think it is in Lenny/main.
> 
> xclip in Squeeze seems to work from the CLI to X, not vice-versa.
> 

Thanks Boyd & Wayne.

The only way I've found 'til now is to echo a string back and forth,
as in:
>From the CLI:   echo 'some string' > /dev/pts/2
>From xterm: echo 'some string' > /dev/tty9

Awkward but less so than writing to a file.

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Mini 10v (was: Lightweight alternative MTA?)

[Steve Lamb]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

What desktop are you running there?


I bounce between Dell's 8.04 GNome and UNR 9.04 GNome.  I'm not too keen 
on GNome but haven't had the bug to move to XFCE or KDE.  I many bounce 
between the two because Dell's 8.04 has better hardware support while UNR 9.04 
has newer software.



How many panel applets?


Single panel on the bottom (really dislike the top panel fetish GNome and 
Mac both have) with 9 applets.  Menu, open windows, CPU Frequency monitor, 
CPU/RAM/Swap monitor, tray, audio, Clock/Weather, desktop swap, trash.


Ever since I got this machine it has handled all my productivity work. 
Bought a Logitech V470 so I just toss the Mini and the mouse into my bag and 
off I go.  The only thing it cannot handle which I nominally miss is Youtube 
HD videos.


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Re: tail broken (?!) and devices not activating

[Celejar]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 22:44:29 -0400
Tim Tebbit  wrote:

> Celejar wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I'm seeing some really weird problems on my system.  I don't know if
> > they're at all related, but I'll report them both in the same
> > email, in case they are.
> > 
> > 1) tail -f stops working - I see the tail of the file, but it fails
> > to refresh when content is added to the file.  What on earth could
> > be causing this?  This is tail from coreutils - nothing fancy, no
> > inotify dependency, just simple polling of the file!
> 
> 8<
> 
> > 
> > Anyone have any ideas of where I can look to try to track this stuff
> > down?
> > 
> > Celejar
> 
> I also noticed this the other day. tail -F seems to work as I expected
> tail -f to.

Thanks, but I get the same thing with '-F'

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Re: Xfce GNU/Icecat and Gnome-programs

[francisco]

On Mon September 21 2009 03:39:48 am Liviu Andronic wrote:
> On 9/21/09, ura  wrote:
> >  I have this problem: using Xfce, browser GNU/Icecat, Evolution, and
> >  other Gnome-programs can not open links to Internet.

I have read some thing related in the list, but i am not sure; look at 
preferences> preferred apps, at your browser or evolution.
  


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Re: tail broken (?!) and devices not activating

[Tim Tebbit]

Celejar wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm seeing some really weird problems on my system.  I don't know if
> they're at all related, but I'll report them both in the same email, in
> case they are.
> 
> 1) tail -f stops working - I see the tail of the file, but it fails to
> refresh when content is added to the file.  What on earth could be
> causing this?  This is tail from coreutils - nothing fancy, no inotify
> dependency, just simple polling of the file!

8<

> 
> Anyone have any ideas of where I can look to try to track this stuff
> down?
> 
> Celejar

I also noticed this the other day. tail -F seems to work as I expected
tail -f to.

I'm using sid, 2.6.30-2

$ tail --version
tail (GNU coreutils) 7.5




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Re: Sharing ppp connection with wlan interface

[Celejar]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 23:18:50 -0300
Vinícius Massuchetto  wrote:

> Celejar escreveu:
> 
> [...]
> 
> > You'd normally use 'master' / hostapd where the wireless clients are
> > connecting to the box.  I've never used ad-hoc mode, and I don't
> > know anything about it.
> 
> I've been trying to set it to master mode, but I'm 
> starting to think that this card doesn't support 
> it. How can I confirm?
> 
> $ iwconfig wlan0 mode master
> Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
> SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.
> 
> $ lspci | grep Wireless
> 0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation 
> PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection 
> (rev 02)

This page claims that iwlwifi (iwl3945) can't do AP:

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Drivers

For (most?) modern cards that can, you'll want to read:

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/hostapd

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Re: Sharing ppp connection with wlan interface

[Vinícius Massuchetto]

Celejar escreveu:

[...]


You'd normally use 'master' / hostapd where the wireless clients are
connecting to the box.  I've never used ad-hoc mode, and I don't know
anything about it.


I've been trying to set it to master mode, but I'm 
starting to think that this card doesn't support 
it. How can I confirm?


$ iwconfig wlan0 mode master
Error for wireless request "Set Mode" (8B06) :
SET failed on device wlan0 ; Invalid argument.

$ lspci | grep Wireless
0c:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation 
PRO/Wireless 3945ABG [Golan] Network Connection 
(rev 02)


$ apt-cache show firmware-iwlwifi
Version: 0.18

Thanks
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tail broken (?!) and devices not activating

[Celejar]

Hi,

I'm seeing some really weird problems on my system.  I don't know if
they're at all related, but I'll report them both in the same email, in
case they are.

1) tail -f stops working - I see the tail of the file, but it fails to
refresh when content is added to the file.  What on earth could be
causing this?  This is tail from coreutils - nothing fancy, no inotify
dependency, just simple polling of the file!

2) The system stops properly recognizing and activating external
devices (USB) that I plug in.  The kernel sees them correctly, as seen
in syslog / dmesg (after I stopped using 'tail -f' for this ...) - it
reports information like the physical attributes and partition table of
my external disk, and the brand of my external mouse, but the devices
don't actually start working - I can't do anything with the disk, and
the mouse's light won't even turn on.

I tried removing and reinserting various modules, and restarting udev
and various other services, and eventually got my disk to come online
(but the mouse is still dead).

Both these problems go away when I reboot, but seem to eventually
return, at least sometimes.  I have no idea of any trigger event.  This
is a laptop, which I frequently suspend (disk) and resume.  Kernel is
2.6.31-rc8 from upstream.

Anyone have any ideas of where I can look to try to track this stuff
down?

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Re: How do I ensure xdm only starts after /etc/rc.local is finished?

[Alex Samad]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:05:09AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote:
> How do I ensure xdm only starts after /etc/rc.local is finished?

Can I ask why you want to do that ?

> 
> What do I need to put into
> /etc/init.d/rc.local's
> INIT INFO section?
> 
> Can I put it there or must I put it into /etc/init.d/xdm's?
> 
> I read insserv(8) but it is mishmosh to me.
> 
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Re: EIP: [] do_exit+0x40c/

[Paul Cartwright]

On Mon September 21 2009, Florian Kriener wrote:
> Sounds like a kernel bug. Can you reproduce the bug? Please send the
> output of dmesg.

yes, I see the message appearing every day...
paulandcilla:/home/pbc/Documents/software# dmesg
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
[0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
[0.00] Linux version 2.6.26-2-686 (Debian 2.6.26-19) 
(da...@debian.org) (gcc version 4.1.3 20080704 (prerelease) (Debian 
4.1.2-25)) #1 SMP Wed Aug 19 06:06:52 UTC 2009
[0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
[0.00]  BIOS-e820:  - 0009a800 (usable)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 000f - 0010 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0010 - 7fe53c00 (usable)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 7fe53c00 - 7fe55c00 (ACPI NVS)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 7fe55c00 - 7fe57c00 (ACPI data)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: 7fe57c00 - 8000 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: e000 - f000 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: fec0 - fed00400 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: fed2 - feda (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: fee0 - fef0 (reserved)
[0.00]  BIOS-e820: ffb0 - 0001 (reserved)
[0.00] 1150MB HIGHMEM available.
[0.00] 896MB LOWMEM available.
[0.00] found SMP MP-table at [c00fe710] 000fe710
[0.00] Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 523859) 0 entries of 256 used
[0.00] Zone PFN ranges:
[0.00]   DMA 0 -> 4096
[0.00]   Normal   4096 ->   229376
[0.00]   HighMem229376 ->   523859
[0.00] Movable zone start PFN for each node
[0.00] early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
[0.00] 0:0 ->   523859
[0.00] On node 0 totalpages: 523859
[0.00]   DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
[0.00]   DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
[0.00]   DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0
[0.00]   Normal zone: 1760 pages used for memmap
[0.00]   Normal zone: 223520 pages, LIFO batch:31
[0.00]   HighMem zone: 2301 pages used for memmap
[0.00]   HighMem zone: 292182 pages, LIFO batch:31
[0.00]   Movable zone: 0 pages used for memmap
[0.00] DMI 2.3 present.
[0.00] ACPI: RSDP 000FEBF0, 0024 (r2 DELL  )
[0.00] ACPI: XSDT 000FD08B, 007C (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: FACP 000FD1AB, 00F4 (r3 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: DSDT FFFCD3F5, 333E (r1   DELLdt_ex 1000 INTL 
20050624)
[0.00] ACPI: FACS 7FE53C00, 0040
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT FFFD0A11, 009C (r1   DELLst_ex 1000 INTL 
20050624)
[0.00] ACPI: APIC 000FD29F, 0092 (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: BOOT 000FD331, 0028 (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: MCFG 000FD359, 003E (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: HPET 000FD397, 0038 (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: DUMY 7FE55C00, 0024 (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: SLIC 000FD3CF, 0176 (r1 DELLB8K   14 ASL   
 
61)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 7FE53C40, 0175 (r1 DpgPmm  Cpu0Ist   11 INTL 
20050624)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 7FE54049, 0175 (r1 DpgPmm  Cpu1Ist   11 INTL 
20050624)
[0.00] ACPI: SSDT 7FE54452, 0140 (r1 DpgPmmCpuPm   10 INTL 
20050624)
[0.00] ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x808
[0.00] ACPI: Local APIC address 0xfee0
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x01] lapic_id[0x00] enabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x02] lapic_id[0x01] enabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x03] lapic_id[0x05] disabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x04] lapic_id[0x07] disabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x05] lapic_id[0x00] disabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x06] lapic_id[0x01] disabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x07] lapic_id[0x02] disabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC (acpi_id[0x08] lapic_id[0x03] disabled)
[0.00] ACPI: LAPIC_NMI (acpi_id[0xff] high level lint[0x1])
[0.00] ACPI: IOAPIC (id[0x08] address[0xfec0] gsi_base[0])
[0.00] IOAPIC[0]: apic_id 8, version 32, address 0xfec0, GSI 0-23
[0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 0 global_irq 2 dfl dfl)
[0.00] ACPI: INT_SRC_OVR (bus 0 bus_irq 9 global_irq 9 high level)
[0.00] ACPI: IRQ0 used by override.
[0.00] ACPI: IRQ2 used by override.
[0.00] ACPI: IRQ9 used by override.
[0.00] Enabling APIC mode:  Flat.  Using 1 I/O APICs
[0.00] ACPI: HPET id: 0x8086a201 base: 0xfed0
[0.00] Using ACPI (MADT) for SMP configuration information
[0.00] Allocating PCI resources starting at 88000

Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 04:23:34AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Tzafrir Cohen wrote:
>> Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
>> each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.
>
> Given that he is doing this for local messages from daemons only I think
> resident memory is the primary concern, not efficiency of once or twice a 
> day deliveries.  Something I can understand given that I've moved most of 
> my productivity work to a Dell Mini.  The thought of having an MTA 
> resident all the time doesn't exactly fill me with glee.  Not that this 
> machine can't handle it (it is more capable than most people think) but 
> because this machine has no business having a resident MTA.

What desktop are you running there?

How many panel applets?

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Re: nvidia problems after upgrade

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 08:35:55PM -0400, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> > It is? How do you do that?
> 
> Make sure you have installed:
> 
> nvidia-glx
> nvidia-glx-dev
> 
> nvidia-kernel-source
> 
> compile the source with the following command:
> 
> #m-a -t clean,a-i nvidia-kernel-source
> 
> enjoy the show then:

I'd
 
> apt-get update
> apt-get dist-upgrade

first, otherwise you may have todo:
#m-a -t clean,a-i nvidia-kernel-source
again! ;)

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Re: Can't write iso image to cd [2.6.30]

[Chris Bannister]

On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 02:00:20PM +0200, Rob Gom wrote:
> Hi there,

Hi,

> I can't write iso image to blank cd under Linux. Under windows xp the
> same works fine.

OK. Then maybe this ...

> ~# hdparm -i /dev/sr0
> /dev/sr0:
> Model=HL-DT-ST DVD+/-RW GH50N , FwRev=B102,
> SerialNo=K3997G74144
> (upgraded fw from B101 when it failed)
^^^

shouldn't be an issue? 

or this?

> End of the cdrecord log:
> Disk type:Short strategy type (Phthalocyanine or similar)
> Manuf. index: 69
> Manufacturer: Moser Baer India Limited
> Manufacturer is guessed because of the orange forum embargo.
> The orange forum likes to get money for recent information.
> The information for this media may not be correct.

 
> Capacity  Blklen/Sparesz.  Format-type  Type
>0 2048 0x00  No Media Present or Unknown 
> Capacity
> Blocks total: 359849 Blocks current: 359849 Blocks remaining: 334298
> Starting to write CD/DVD/BD at speed 48 in real SAO mode for single session.

Try burning at a slower speed.

> Starting new track at sector: 0
> Track 01:0 of   49 MB written./opt/cdrtools-orig/bin/cdrecord:
> Input/output error. write_g1: scsi sendcmd: no error
> CDB:  2A 00 00 00 01 17 00 00 1F 00
> status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION)
> Sense Bytes: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0A 2A 00 00 80 30 05 00 00
> Sense Key: 0x5 Illegal Request, Segment 0
> Sense Code: 0x30 Qual 0x05 (cannot write medium - incompatible format) Fru 0x0
  ^
> What else can I do? I can wait for 2.6.31 and see if it helps. But I
> would like not to waste too much cds ...

Try different media. It seems Windows XP knows more about the firmware
upgrade and those CD's than Linux does, so use Windows in the meantime
to do your burning.

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Re: alsa does not (re-)store audio levels

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/20/09, Andrei Popescu  wrote:
> Do 'alsactl store' and 'alsactl restore' work for root? Do you have the
>  package alsa-utils installed?
>
This started to work OK after I supplied correct load-up options to
solve a distinct issue (see [1]).
Liviu

[1] http://www.pubbs.net/debian/200909/110516/


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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Wayne Topa]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 15:15:42 Wayne Topa wrote:

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 14:32:06 Wayne Topa wrote:

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:

[H]ow can I
grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?

I believe xclip  can do this.


xclip in Squeeze seems to work from the CLI to X, not vice-versa.

Tried "xclip -o", I presume?

I gave up on xclip when I ran the example from the man page

$ xclip -loops 10 -verbose /etc/motd
Loops: 10
Connected to X server.
Using UTF8_STRING.
Reading /etc/motd...
Waiting for 10 selection requests, Control-C to quit
   Waiting for selection request 1 of 10.

I went for a cup of coffee and 10 minutes later it was still
sitting there.


It sounds like it is waiting on you to paste the contents of the X selection.  
(Usually, this is a middle-click.)


I think, once it sees the selection pasted, it will replace it with /etc/motd, 
again.



I then ran xclipboard and tried the above again.
Nothing showed up on the xclipboard or on the CLI.




I assumed that you knew that I 'had' middle-clicked in the CLI,  Sorry 
for taking that for granted.


X11 has two "clipboards": the selection and the cut-buffer[1].  "cut" and 
"copy" commands generally write to the cut-buffer.  Selecting text with the 
mouse generally writes to the selection.  "paste" commands generally read the 
cut-buffer.  Middle-click generally reads from the selection.


Make sure whatever tools you are using are instructed to use the correct 
"clipboard".  I believe xclip can work with either.



I've too many other things to do to play with it
anymore.


Well, if you refuse to learn the tools that exist, I'm not sure how I'm 
supposed to help you.  That said, I don't use xclip that much myself.  I have 
used it in the past, but that was before Lenny was released; prehaps something 
has broken in the meantime.


I mentioned I was running Squeeze.   I was not asking for help.  I was 
relaying my attempts to get it to do what it says it can do. A CLI -> X
clipboard APP that works is what I wanted.  After reading all the docs 
supplied, as well as Googleing for other methods, I am left still wanting.


Thanks for you replies and sorry if I was not clear in my posts.

Wayne


[1] Actually, its more general than that.  You can have multiple resources of 
type Selection or CutBuffer.



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Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 21 September 2009 15:27:11 shampavman wrote:
> Im new to .deb packaging.. and learning it as a test I wanted to modify
> the alien pkg such that it automatically creates a symlink from
> /usr/bin/alien to /usr/sfw/bin/alien.. and thus i changed the rules file
> appropriately... but when I do a build this is what I get
[...]
> /bin/ln -s /usr/bin/alien /usr/sfw/bin/alien

/bin/ln is not the easiest beast to understand, but this creates the symlink 
"/usr/sfw/bin/alien" with the contents "/usr/bin/alien".  That is, a symlink 
from /usr/sfw/bin/alien to /usr/bin/alien, which is the reverse of what you 
want.

The order or arguments is ln is the same as the order of arguments to cp.  The 
new file you want created is the second argument.

> Now I just started with it and want to learn.. can anyone direct me to the
> mistakes i'm making!!

IIRC, you shouldn't be making the filesystem changes "live".  Anything you 
want installed by the package should be placed under ./$binary_package_name 
relative to debian/rules.  I'ven't finished my first package yet though.
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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 21 September 2009 15:15:42 Wayne Topa wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Monday 21 September 2009 14:32:06 Wayne Topa wrote:
> >> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> >>> On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:
>  [H]ow can I
>  grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?
> >>>
> >>> I believe xclip  can do this.
> >>>  >>>he - command-line/>
> >>
> >> xclip in Squeeze seems to work from the CLI to X, not vice-versa.
> >
> > Tried "xclip -o", I presume?
>
> I gave up on xclip when I ran the example from the man page
>
> $ xclip -loops 10 -verbose /etc/motd
> Loops: 10
> Connected to X server.
> Using UTF8_STRING.
> Reading /etc/motd...
> Waiting for 10 selection requests, Control-C to quit
>Waiting for selection request 1 of 10.
>
> I went for a cup of coffee and 10 minutes later it was still
> sitting there.

It sounds like it is waiting on you to paste the contents of the X selection.  
(Usually, this is a middle-click.)

I think, once it sees the selection pasted, it will replace it with /etc/motd, 
again.

> I then ran xclipboard and tried the above again.
> Nothing showed up on the xclipboard or on the CLI.

X11 has two "clipboards": the selection and the cut-buffer[1].  "cut" and 
"copy" commands generally write to the cut-buffer.  Selecting text with the 
mouse generally writes to the selection.  "paste" commands generally read the 
cut-buffer.  Middle-click generally reads from the selection.

Make sure whatever tools you are using are instructed to use the correct 
"clipboard".  I believe xclip can work with either.

> I've too many other things to do to play with it
> anymore.

Well, if you refuse to learn the tools that exist, I'm not sure how I'm 
supposed to help you.  That said, I don't use xclip that much myself.  I have 
used it in the past, but that was before Lenny was released; prehaps something 
has broken in the meantime.

[1] Actually, its more general than that.  You can have multiple resources of 
type Selection or CutBuffer.
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Re: help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-09-21 22:27 +0200, shampavman wrote:

> Im new to .deb packaging.. and learning it as a test I wanted to
> modify the alien pkg such that it automatically creates a symlink from
> /usr/bin/alien to /usr/sfw/bin/alien.. and thus i changed the rules
> file appropriately... but when I do a build this is what I get
>
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shampavman/packaging/alien-8.73'
>   dh_auto_test
> make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shampavman/packaging/alien-8.73'
> No tests defined for Alien extension.
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shampavman/packaging/alien-8.73'
> # simple smoke test
> /bin/ln -s /usr/bin/alien /usr/sfw/bin/alien
> /bin/ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/sfw/bin/alien': No such file or 
> directory

You need to create the target directory for the link beforehand:
mkdir -p /usr/sfw/bin

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Size of a kernel module is different at build place and after installation

[sobtwmxt]

  I have built a custom kernel, using make-kpgk, from debian source.
Using ls -l, there is difference in the size of kernel modules, .ko 
files, at build place and after installation of the package.  I 
only looked at 2 unrelated modules, but I think there will be a
difference in the size of other modules too.  If that matters, I built 
the package on one machine, and installed it on another.  The later 
machine is an x86 running Ubuntu.  The former is x86 running Debian.
  
1) Why there is size difference?
2) Can I compile modules on the Debian machine and copy the resulted 
   .ko files directly to the Ubuntu machine?
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help in resolving error,building a .deb pkg ;newbie!!

[shampavman]

Hi,

Im new to .deb packaging.. and learning it as a test I wanted to modify 
the alien pkg such that it automatically creates a symlink from 
/usr/bin/alien to /usr/sfw/bin/alien.. and thus i changed the rules file 
appropriately... but when I do a build this is what I get


make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shampavman/packaging/alien-8.73'
  dh_auto_test
make[1]: Entering directory `/home/shampavman/packaging/alien-8.73'
No tests defined for Alien extension.
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/shampavman/packaging/alien-8.73'
# simple smoke test
/bin/ln -s /usr/bin/alien /usr/sfw/bin/alien
/bin/ln: creating symbolic link `/usr/sfw/bin/alien': No such file or directory
make: *** [build] Error 1
dpkg-buildpackage: failure: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2
r...@wrapster:~/packaging/alien-8.73# screen
[screen is terminating]

Now I just started with it and want to learn.. can anyone direct me to the 
mistakes i'm
making!!



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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Wayne Topa]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 14:32:06 Wayne Topa wrote:

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:

[H]ow can I
grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?

I believe xclip  can do this.


xclip in Squeeze seems to work from the CLI to X, not vice-versa.


Tried "xclip -o", I presume?


Yes, and that didn't get me anywhere either. Actually it didn't
go from CLI to X here either.

I gave up on xclip when I ran the example from the man page

$ xclip -loops 10 -verbose /etc/motd
Loops: 10
Connected to X server.
Using UTF8_STRING.
Reading /etc/motd...
Waiting for 10 selection requests, Control-C to quit
  Waiting for selection request 1 of 10.

I went for a cup of coffee and 10 minutes later it was still
sitting there.  I then ran xclipboard and tried the above again.
Nothing showed up on the xclipboard or on the CLI.

Same results with the other examples.  When they didn't work
I purged it .  I've too many other things to do to play with it
anymore.

Wayne


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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Kelly Clowers]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 10:06, Mike McClain  wrote:
> Is there a way to get gpm to use the same copy buffer at the
> command line that it dowes in X? Or in other words how can I
> grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?

I just use the Primary Selection (select text to copy, middle click to paste),
instead of the clipboard (copy/paste menu) when dealing with the CLI

Cheers,
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Re: no sound in headphones

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Liviu Andronic wrote:

> On 9/21/09, Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
>> > Liviu Andronic wrote:
>> > front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
>> I think this is the one you should try. May be we can exchange snapshots
>> of
>>  what alsamixer looks like. It seems you have similar audio controller to
>>  my one.
>>
> I think I found it. This specific problem of no audio in external
> headphones/speakers was widely discussed on Ubuntu, and someone
> somewhere for some reason (similar but different from mine, I believe)
> suggested adding the position_fix=1 option. I did so, and after reboot
> everything seems to work as expected. I would probably need couple
> more reboots to confirm this, but so far it looks fine. (Though
> haven't checked the microphone, yet.)
> 
> Again, thank you for your help.
> Best
> Liviu

welcome

> 
> 
> li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf
> ## ALSA portion
> alias char-major-116 snd
> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
> alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio
> 
> ## module options should go here
> #ex. options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=dell-m6,ref,auto
> #options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1
> options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 position_fix=1
> options snd-usb-audio index=1

If you don't find this specific information for your card and chip I will
urge you to post to alsa people to include it there.

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Re: Firewall solution.

[Victor Padro]

2009/9/21 Leandro Quibem Magnabosco :
> Jesús M. Navarro escreveu:
>
> You are aware you are comparing apples to oranges, aren't you?  You asked
> for
> a firewall when it seems you are looking for a gateway solution.  pfSense,
> as
> you certainly know is not a script or even a bunch of scripts but a whole
> system solution.
>
>
> Hmm...
> What I said was "I am searching for something like pfsense[1] for Linux to
> install in a production server.", which means I am looking for something
> with functionalities much like of what PFsense has.
> When I said it was supposed to be installed on a production server, I meant
> that I would not like to use a box just for that purpose.
>
> Maybe my English is not quite helpful in discerning concepts, not allowing
> me to be perfectly clear.
> But yeah... that is what I want.
>
> Since you are asking this on a Debian list, I can point you towards the
> likes
> of Gibraltar (http://www.gibraltar.at/) netward (http://www.netguard.gr/)
> XFwall (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xfwall/) or ips-qos
> (http://www.coolsolutions.eu/ipsqos/index.php) surely there must be others.
> and you can certainly taylor yourself out of packages with the needed
> features and a bit of script and web-fu.
>
>
> >From those you cited, ipsqos looks quite nice, I might give it a try in a
> testing environment.
>
>
> How your firewall on a virtual machine will protect the master host and/or
> how
> will it avoid any routing by bug or mistake at the master host level to pass
> through?  How will you deal with traffic shaping on your virtual devices
> when
> it will be the master host the one queueing packets.
>
>
>
> Now you are the one comparing oranges to apples, right? :)
> The way I see it, host firewall and network firewall are different things.
> If Pfsense is in a virtual machine, it will work for the network and not for
> the host itself.
> The host would have it's own firewall that, in this case, it could be much
> much simplier, with just a few scripts.
>
>
>
> Since I posted that, I've been talking to some people on IRC that told
> me they implemented PFSense on ESXi on medium sizes networks (~500
> nodes) with 1G of RAM and it was running under 15% of cpu and about 25%
> of IO average, which sounds pretty good.
>
>
> That it can be done, I have no doubt of.  I still think and reason that it's
> basically defeating a firewall's main purpouse serving it as a virtualized
> resource.
>
>
>
> I tested it...
> It works great, but ESXi is pretty picky about the hardware it supports...
> that's the only think I did not like.
> It is now working in a production environment with a CPU cost of only 6%
> average with all the features I need running.
>
> No doubt it would be best to avoid virtualization if possible, but not at
> all costs.
>
>
>
> I might try this with some "manual failover" on my hands, just in case...
>
>
> You are aware pfSense supports CARP, don't you?  (last time I tested it was
> a
> bit buggy, though).
>
>
>
> Yes, but CARP is not needed for a test.
> The test is gone and PFSense @ ESXi is running.
>
> I'm happy! :)
>
> Thank you all for the help, really! :)
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Pfsense is the best thing I've ever seen for firewall/router appliances/servers
You can use pfsense under KVM also

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Re: Firewall solution.

[Leandro Quibem Magnabosco]

Jesús M. Navarro escreveu:

  You are aware you are comparing apples to oranges, aren't you?  You asked for 
a firewall when it seems you are looking for a gateway solution.  pfSense, as 
you certainly know is not a script or even a bunch of scripts but a whole 
system solution.
  

Hmm...
What I said was "I am searching for something like
pfsense[1] for Linux to install in a production server.",
which means I am looking for something with functionalities much like
of what PFsense has.
When I said it was supposed to be installed on a production server, I
meant that I would not like to use a box just for that purpose.

Maybe my English is not quite helpful in discerning concepts, not
allowing me to be perfectly clear.
But yeah... that is what I want.


  Since you are asking this on a Debian list, I can point you towards the likes 
of Gibraltar (http://www.gibraltar.at/) netward (http://www.netguard.gr/) 
XFwall (http://sourceforge.net/projects/xfwall/) or ips-qos 
(http://www.coolsolutions.eu/ipsqos/index.php) surely there must be others. 
and you can certainly taylor yourself out of packages with the needed 
features and a bit of script and web-fu.
  

>From those you cited, ipsqos looks quite nice, I might give it a try in
a testing environment.



How your firewall on a virtual machine will protect the master host and/or how 
will it avoid any routing by bug or mistake at the master host level to pass 
through?  How will you deal with traffic shaping on your virtual devices when 
it will be the master host the one queueing packets.

  

Now you are the one comparing oranges to apples, right? :)
The way I see it, host firewall and network firewall are different
things.
If Pfsense is in a virtual machine, it will work for the network and
not for the host itself.
The host would have it's own firewall that, in this case, it could be
much much simplier, with just a few scripts.



  
Since I posted that, I've been talking to some people on IRC that told
me they implemented PFSense on ESXi on medium sizes networks (~500
nodes) with 1G of RAM and it was running under 15% of cpu and about 25%
of IO average, which sounds pretty good.

  
  
That it can be done, I have no doubt of.  I still think and reason that it's 
basically defeating a firewall's main purpouse serving it as a virtualized 
resource.

  


I tested it...
It works great, but ESXi is pretty picky about the hardware it
supports... that's the only think I did not like.
It is now working in a production environment with a CPU cost of only
6% average with all the features I need running.

No doubt it would be best to avoid virtualization if possible, but not
at all costs.


  
I might try this with some "manual failover" on my hands, just in case...

  
  
You are aware pfSense supports CARP, don't you?  (last time I tested it was a 
bit buggy, though).

  

Yes, but CARP is not needed for a test.
The test is gone and PFSense @ ESXi is running.

I'm happy! :)

Thank you all for the help, really! :)




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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 21 September 2009 14:32:06 Wayne Topa wrote:
> Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> > On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:
> >> [H]ow can I
> >> grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?
> >
> > I believe xclip  can do this.
> >  >- command-line/>
>
> xclip in Squeeze seems to work from the CLI to X, not vice-versa.

Tried "xclip -o", I presume?
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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Brian Marshall]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 06:21:16PM +0200, Ole Toft Jensen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:58:51PM +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > > Frank wrote:
> > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
> > >> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
> > >>  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> > >>> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on 
> > >>> another
> > >>> partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
> > >>>
> > >> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
> > >> "recommended" but not automatically installed. 
> > > 
> > >Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?
> > 
> > I can't read their minds, but it sure seems that installing os-prober as
> > a dependency would do no harm to "single-booting" systems, and would
> > save some trouble to "multi-booting" users. Maybe there's already a
> > "whishlist" bug opened about it ?
> > 
> The default behavior of aptitude and apt-get these days at least in sid
> and testing is to install Recommends automatically, so the user must
> have made a concious choice not to install os-prober or not to install
> Recommends packages by default.

It looks like grub-common Recommends os-prober (>= 1.32), but the latest
version in squeeze is 1.28. That's probably why I had to manually
install os-prober in Debian squeeze.

Brian


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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Wayne Topa]

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:

On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:

[H]ow can I
grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?


I believe xclip  can do this. 


I think it is in Lenny/main.


xclip in Squeeze seems to work from the CLI to X, not vice-versa.

Darn!

Wayne


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Re: Sharing ppp connection with wlan interface

[Celejar]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:28:06 -0300
Vinicius Massuchetto  wrote:

...

> That's exactly it. I've got a 3G modem connected to the box, and I
> want other computers to get this connection wirelessly.
> 
> I followed this tutorial to get this configuration:
> http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sharing_ppp_connection_with_wlan_interface
> 
> > then you should be configuring it with 'mode
> > master', or, more likely these days, using hostapd.  If you have a
> > separate wireless AP, and you just want the box to be a dns server /
> > ppp host, then the mode should be 'managed', and the AP should be
> > configured to forward traffic to the box.

You'd normally use 'master' / hostapd where the wireless clients are
connecting to the box.  I've never used ad-hoc mode, and I don't know
anything about it.

> I'm not sure about what mode to use in case I want the computer to be
> the router. I found this information randomically defined in different
> places while looking for it on the web.
> 
> As I said, the client computer sees the wireless network I created,
> but can't connect to it. The syslog of the server computer keeps
> showing this:
> 
> Sep 20 23:46:48 vinicius kernel: [ 3349.172165] wlan0: No active IBSS
> STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks with same SSID (merge)
> Sep 20 23:46:51 vinicius kernel: [ 3351.704879] wlan0: Selected IBSS
> BSSID 0e:45:9e:94:06:07 based on configured SSID

This sounds like ad-hoc mode related stuff.  Try setting up master
mode; the exact method will depend on what chipset / driver you're
using.

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Re: /bin/sh shell for www-data ?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Ali Jawad wrote:

> Just a quick Question, why does apache have a shell in passwd file
> on debian ?

  not sure this answers your question, but you can't use that as a
login account since its entry in /etc/shadow has no legal password.
so, unless i'm missing something, i guess that /bin/sh could have just
as easily have been /bin/false.  but i'm willing to be corrected.

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Re: Why can't I install skype on debian?

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/18/09, Micha Feigin  wrote:
> I think that the current "ubuntu" skype version from skype website depends
>  on this, but turns out that you may also need to move /usr/lib32/libpulse* 
> out
>  of the way or it may crash (did for me)
>
Indeed. Thank you for the suggestion. Now
skype-ubuntu-intrepid_2.1.0.47-1_amd64 does not crash, and
sound/record find.
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Re: Sharing ppp connection with wlan interface

[Vinicius Massuchetto]

Hi. Thanks for helping.

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Celejar  wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:49:35 -0300
> Vinícius Massuchetto  wrote:
>
>> Dear all.
>>
>> I've been trying to serve a ppp0 internet
>> connection through a wireless network. I made a
>> small script to be ran when i want to do that:
>>
>> ifdown wlan0
>> iwconfig wlan0 essid "VinaNET" mode Ad-Hoc
>> ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.254
>> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
>> /etc/init.d/dnsmasq stop
>> /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
>> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
>>
>> The script goes just fine and the client computer
>> can see the wireless network but can't connect, it
>> only keeps trying:
>>
>> DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67
>> interval x
>
> I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you're trying to do here.
> If you want the box in question to serve as a wireless AP / router
> (i.e., the ppp connection is from the box, and clients connect
> wirelessly to the box)

That's exactly it. I've got a 3G modem connected to the box, and I
want other computers to get this connection wirelessly.

I followed this tutorial to get this configuration:
http://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Sharing_ppp_connection_with_wlan_interface

> then you should be configuring it with 'mode
> master', or, more likely these days, using hostapd.  If you have a
> separate wireless AP, and you just want the box to be a dns server /
> ppp host, then the mode should be 'managed', and the AP should be
> configured to forward traffic to the box.

I'm not sure about what mode to use in case I want the computer to be
the router. I found this information randomically defined in different
places while looking for it on the web.

As I said, the client computer sees the wireless network I created,
but can't connect to it. The syslog of the server computer keeps
showing this:

Sep 20 23:46:48 vinicius kernel: [ 3349.172165] wlan0: No active IBSS
STAs - trying to scan for other IBSS networks with same SSID (merge)
Sep 20 23:46:51 vinicius kernel: [ 3351.704879] wlan0: Selected IBSS
BSSID 0e:45:9e:94:06:07 based on configured SSID

> Please explain more clearly your network topology.

Hope it is clear enough now.

Thanks again.
Vinicius


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Frank]

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> 
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 18:21:16 +0200
> Ole Toft Jensen  wrote:
> 
> > 
> > On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:58:51PM +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > > > Frank wrote:
> > > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
> > > >> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
> > > >>  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> > > >>> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on
> > > >>> another partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
> > > >>>
> > > >> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
> > > >> "recommended" but not automatically installed. 
> > > > 
> > > >Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?
> > > 
> > > I can't read their minds, but it sure seems that installing os-prober as
> > > a dependency would do no harm to "single-booting" systems, and would
> > > save some trouble to "multi-booting" users. Maybe there's already a
> > > "whishlist" bug opened about it ?
> > > 
> > The default behavior of aptitude and apt-get these days at least in sid
> > and testing is to install Recommends automatically, so the user must
> > have made a concious choice not to install os-prober or not to install
> > Recommends packages by default.
> > 
> 
>   The "user" did not make a "conscious" choice not to install it - I (the
> "user") was never offered a choice to install or not to install.
> If it's the default behavior of aptitude to install recommends then something
> else must have happened. It wouldn't be the first time.


  Just checked with Aptitude and the install recommends is checked in the 
config.
The "remove unused packages automatically" is NOT checked ( it would cancel the 
install
recommends )


  Besides, the fact the second installation wasn't picked up was a minor 
inconvience..
the major problem was my unbootable computer after the installation.

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/bin/sh shell for www-data ?

[Ali Jawad]

Just a quick Question, why does apache have a shell in passwd file on debian ?


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Re: gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 21 September 2009 12:06:39 Mike McClain wrote:
> [H]ow can I
> grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?

I believe xclip  can do this. 


I think it is in Lenny/main.
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Re: root fs incorrectly unmounted

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2009-09-14 16:00 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2009-09-13 17:31 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


On a recent Sid upgrade upon booting I now get the message that the
root fs was incorrectly unmounted.

How do I debug that t find out what is wrong? I see no log messages
about that anywhere, it just appears on the console.

I had seen this a few times myself, bug #545179¹ might be the culprit.
In general, any package shipping a library that /sbin/init is linked
against must run "telinit u" in the postinst to ensure that the root
filesystem can be unmounted on shutdown.


Too recent, I still have:

h...@debian:/$ dpkg -l libc6
[...]
ii  libc6 2.9-24


The bug had been introduced in version 2.9-23, according to the bug
submitter.



Found the problem, but not why it happened: all the K|Sxx in 
/etc/rcX.d have the wrong xx's!


Have no idea how it happened.

Hugo


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Re: Raid disk delimma

[Jack Schneider]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 19:03:45 +0200
martin f krafft  wrote:

> Let's keep this on the list...

OK with me.. I normally just hit reply in Claws 3.5.  You may get 2
if I use reply-all..


> 
> also sprach Jack Schneider  [2009.09.21.1857
> +0200]:
> > Results from :  mdadm -Asayes
> > 
> > Just returns a prompt: #
> > 
> > vgchange -a (gives argument needed message)
> > 
> > vgchange -a y :gives  "7 logical volume(s) in volume
> > group "Speeduke" now active"
> > 
> > 'first seems to complete without error and the second (with my
> > change) seems to indicate that all volume groups are found...hmmm!
> 
> I'll take a shot into the dark: does it work if you add rootdelay=30
> to the linux kernel boot line? E.g.
> 
>   kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/md0 rootdelay=30
> 
> This will incur a 30 second delay during boot. If that makes it
> work, you can experiment with lowering this value, but you will need
> to have some sort of sleep in there like that, because apparently
> your controllers need more time to make the disks available, and
> they do not properly convey to the kernel when they're ready.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
You mean in the grub boot edit function?  At  boot-up ?  Where I
put it, /boot/grub/menu.lst  It didn't help...  Same fault. 

Sorry about that..  It was not a problem until the 2.6.30 update I did
about 9/14- 9/15 time frame... the problem came up after the next
boot.  I had to shut down for a storm... I don't trust UPS's for
protection..8-(

TIA,  Jack
 


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

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> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:58:51PM +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > > Frank wrote:
> > > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
> > >> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
> > >>  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> > >>> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on
> > >>> another partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
> > >>>
> > >> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
> > >> "recommended" but not automatically installed. 
> > > 
> > >Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?
> > 
> > I can't read their minds, but it sure seems that installing os-prober as
> > a dependency would do no harm to "single-booting" systems, and would
> > save some trouble to "multi-booting" users. Maybe there's already a
> > "whishlist" bug opened about it ?
> > 
> The default behavior of aptitude and apt-get these days at least in sid
> and testing is to install Recommends automatically, so the user must
> have made a concious choice not to install os-prober or not to install
> Recommends packages by default.
> 

  The "user" did not make a "conscious" choice not to install it - I (the 
"user")
was never offered a choice to install or not to install.
If it's the default behavior of aptitude to install recommends then something 
else
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Re: sudden power off ... ?!?

[Neal Hogan]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Dan  wrote:

>   Hello List,
>
> It is few days that I installed (standard installation) Debian Lenny on
> this pc.


Which pc? If it's a harware issue, perhaps letting us know what hardware you
have may help (dmesg?). Perhaps someone may have had similar issues with
similar hardware.


>   Randomly (maybe once or sometimes two a day) it powers off like if it
> has suddenly been plugged off from the AC. If I then soon turn it on no
> problems to start up. I suspect this could be a hardware fault. I would like
> to check also any settings in the BIOS.
> Are there any possibilities that this problem is related to any software
> bug ?
>

Again, what hardware you have and which software you're using may help you
get help.


>
> Thanks, dan
>
>

Re: sudden power off ... ?!?

[Aioanei Rares]

Dan wrote:

Hello List,

It is few days that I installed (standard installation) Debian Lenny 
on this pc. Randomly (maybe once or sometimes two a day) it powers off 
like if it has suddenly been plugged off from the AC. If I then soon 
turn it on no problems to start up. I suspect this could be a hardware 
fault. I would like to check also any settings in the BIOS.
Are there any possibilities that this problem is related to any 
software bug ?


Thanks, dan


I think it's HW related, but you could try with a livecd of your Linux 
distro of choice and see if the symptoms persist.



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Re: Sharing ppp connection with wlan interface

[Celejar]

On Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:49:35 -0300
Vinícius Massuchetto  wrote:

> Dear all.
> 
> I've been trying to serve a ppp0 internet 
> connection through a wireless network. I made a 
> small script to be ran when i want to do that:
> 
> ifdown wlan0
> iwconfig wlan0 essid "VinaNET" mode Ad-Hoc
> ifconfig wlan0 192.168.0.254
> echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward
> /etc/init.d/dnsmasq stop
> /etc/init.d/dnsmasq start
> iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ppp0 -j MASQUERADE
> 
> The script goes just fine and the client computer 
> can see the wireless network but can't connect, it 
> only keeps trying:
> 
> DHCPDISCOVER on ath0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 
> interval x

I'm not sure that I understand exactly what you're trying to do here.
If you want the box in question to serve as a wireless AP / router
(i.e., the ppp connection is from the box, and clients connect
wirelessly to the box), then you should be configuring it with 'mode
master', or, more likely these days, using hostapd.  If you have a
separate wireless AP, and you just want the box to be a dns server /
ppp host, then the mode should be 'managed', and the AP should be
configured to forward traffic to the box.

Please explain more clearly your network topology.

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Re: no sound in headphones

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/21/09, Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
> > Liviu Andronic wrote:
> > front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
> I think this is the one you should try. May be we can exchange snapshots of
>  what alsamixer looks like. It seems you have similar audio controller to my
>  one.
>
I think I found it. This specific problem of no audio in external
headphones/speakers was widely discussed on Ubuntu, and someone
somewhere for some reason (similar but different from mine, I believe)
suggested adding the position_fix=1 option. I did so, and after reboot
everything seems to work as expected. I would probably need couple
more reboots to confirm this, but so far it looks fine. (Though
haven't checked the microphone, yet.)

Again, thank you for your help.
Best
Liviu


li...@debian-liv:~$ cat /etc/modprobe.d/sound.conf
## ALSA portion
alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-usb-audio

## module options should go here
#ex. options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=dell-m6,ref,auto
#options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=ref enable_msi=1
options snd-hda-intel index=0 model=hp-dv5 enable_msi=1 position_fix=1
options snd-usb-audio index=1


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[thveillon.debian]

>Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> On Monday 21 September 2009 09:49:39 Frank wrote:
>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
>> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
>>> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
>>> "recommended" but not automatically installed.
>>Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?
> 
> Since grub-pc does not *require* os-prober to be installed to function, 
> having 
> the co-installation enforced by the package manager would be inappropriate.
> 
> Recommends relationships are the strongest relationship that is not strictly 
> enforced by the package manager.  In the default configuration aptitude (the 
> recommended package manager) installs Recommends.  The relevant configuration 
> key is Aptitude::Recommends-Important.
> 
> It has been a long time since I used apt-get, but I believe the same is true 
> of it; at the very least a message is shown to the user recommending the 
> installation of os-prober.
> 
> So, the maintainers are assuming that at least one user would like to use 
> GRUB2 without os-prober, which seems a safe assumption.  (I only have one 
> installation on my home PC, so you can count me as that user if you'd like.)

Thanks for the explanation, you read minds better than I do. You're 100%
right, as I said to another person pointing in the same direction
there's really nothing to complain about then (as long it works, of
course...).

Tom


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Re: no sound in headphones

[Emanoil Kotsev]

Liviu Andronic wrote:

> front:CARD=SB,DEV=0

I think this is the one you should try. May be we can exchange snapshots of
what alsamixer looks like. It seems you have similar audio controller to my
one.


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[thveillon.debian]

>Ole Toft Jensen wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:58:51PM +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
>>> Frank wrote:
>>> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
 "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another
> partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
>
 The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
 "recommended" but not automatically installed. 
>>>Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?
>> I can't read their minds, but it sure seems that installing os-prober as
>> a dependency would do no harm to "single-booting" systems, and would
>> save some trouble to "multi-booting" users. Maybe there's already a
>> "whishlist" bug opened about it ?
> 
> The default behavior of aptitude and apt-get these days at least in sid
> and testing is to install Recommends automatically, so the user must
> have made a concious choice not to install os-prober or not to install
> Recommends packages by default.
> 

Good point, and I do remember now that during my latest Squeeze install
aptitude did drag "os-prober" with grub2.
Really nothing to complain about then, for me grub2 is doing the job and
I am not looking back to "grub-legacy" with nostalgia.

Tom


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gpm buffer: CLI vs. X

[Mike McClain]

Is there a way to get gpm to use the same copy buffer at the
command line that it dowes in X? Or in other words how can I
grab some text on the command line and paste it in X, or vise versa?
TIA,
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John the Ripper

[Mike McClain]

I've had John running since Jan '08 and it's yet to break my password.
Admittedly the password is non-trivial being 13 characters, mixed
upper and lower case, numbers and punctuation but I keep expecting
John to send me a note saying it's been cracked since John runs
six hours each night and my computer is on at night more often than
not.
Is there some further configuration necessary to John installed with
apt-get before it will crack normal Debian passwords?
BTW, this is a mostly stock Etch system.

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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Mike McClain]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 01:28:21AM -0700, Steve Lamb wrote:
 
> Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode.  I fail 
Earlier in this thread someone suggested editing /etc/default/exim4
setting QUEUERUNNER='nodaemon'.
When I tried this and the mail stopped getting delivered until I
restored /etc/default/exim4.
What is it I missed?
This is a mostly Etch P1 system on dialup, if that matters.
Thanks,
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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Steve Kemp]

On Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 15:04:57 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> > http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/
> >
> >Works for me on my laptops..
>
> That looks very interesting. Why isn't it available from official Debian
> repos?

  Because exim, postfix, nullmailer, ssmtp, all exist already and
 despite that we still seem to have regular discussions about which
 is best, and which is the most lightweight for desktops.

  I don't have the patience to get involved on the whole.

  I also saw this recently:

http://blog.fortytwo.ch/archives/53-Introducing-Pony-Express.html

> It might solve the endless "let's make postfix the default MTA in
> Debian" threads on debian-devel.

  Unlikely!

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sudden power off ... ?!?

[Dan]

Hello List,

It is few days that I installed (standard installation) Debian Lenny on this 
pc. Randomly (maybe once or sometimes two a day) it powers off like if it has 
suddenly been plugged off from the AC. If I then soon turn it on  no problems 
to start up. I suspect this could be a hardware fault. I would like to check 
also any settings in the BIOS.
Are there any possibilities that this problem is related to any software bug ?

Thanks, dan 



  

Re: Raid disk delimma

[martin f krafft]

Let's keep this on the list...

also sprach Jack Schneider  [2009.09.21.1857 +0200]:
> Results from :mdadm -Asayes
> 
>   Just returns a prompt: #
> 
>   vgchange -a (gives argument needed message)
>   
>   vgchange -a y :gives  "7 logical volume(s) in volume
>   group "Speeduke" now active"
> 
> 'first seems to complete without error and the second (with my
> change) seems to indicate that all volume groups are found...hmmm!

I'll take a shot into the dark: does it work if you add rootdelay=30
to the linux kernel boot line? E.g.

  kernel /boot/vmlinuz ro root=/dev/md0 rootdelay=30

This will incur a 30 second delay during boot. If that makes it
work, you can experiment with lowering this value, but you will need
to have some sort of sleep in there like that, because apparently
your controllers need more time to make the disks available, and
they do not properly convey to the kernel when they're ready.

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Re: java6update15 - how, where,..?

[Sven Hoexter]

On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 07:45:44AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:
> On Sun, Sep 20, 2009 at 07:09:28AM +1000, Alex Samad wrote:

Hi,

> > does that mean they have all the java moved over to openjdk & classpath,
> > last time I looked openjdk was still not a drop in replacement for sun
> > jdk - it has been a while
> 
> I just installed the latest openjdk and icedtea plugin and then went to
> http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml which failed

I'm not involved in the Java packaging so I can only speak for myself.
Yes, I have problems with the IceadTea browser plugin aswell but there
is at least an open bug for missing proxy support (still have to try
it again without the proxy to confirm that it's not a different bug).

Beside that Eclipse (Galileo and Ganimed builds), freemind (0.9rc4)
and some other java applications work fine with OpenJDK.
So there seem to be some issue with the browser plugin but overall
the effects seem to be low. So I, personally, don't have any big issue
with the switch.

So one has to see what happens next, crucial fixes in the SUN JDK or
improvements in the OpenJDK browser plugin.

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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Ole Toft Jensen]

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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 05:58:51PM +0200, thveillon.debian wrote:
> > Frank wrote:
> > On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
> >> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
> >>  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> >>> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another
> >>> partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
> >>>
> >> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
> >> "recommended" but not automatically installed. 
> > 
> >Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?
> 
> I can't read their minds, but it sure seems that installing os-prober as
> a dependency would do no harm to "single-booting" systems, and would
> save some trouble to "multi-booting" users. Maybe there's already a
> "whishlist" bug opened about it ?
> 
The default behavior of aptitude and apt-get these days at least in sid
and testing is to install Recommends automatically, so the user must
have made a concious choice not to install os-prober or not to install
Recommends packages by default.

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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[thveillon.debian]

> Frank wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
>> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
>> 
>>> I still fail to understand what went wrong. After the installation and
>>> reboot which went OK, I picked the chain option and that's  when it all
>>> went downhill. 
>> The chaining from grub-legacy menu to grub2 is just supposed to enable
>> testing of the grub2 install, it doesn't install anything. One has to
>> run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" as root to finish the process, or simply
>> properly install grub2 in the mbr, and create the config.
> 
>   Sorry, but I did run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" after the chaining boot
> went well.

Don't be, I must have misinterpreted your phrase:

"I still fail to understand what went wrong. After the installation and
reboot which went OK, I picked the chain option and that's  when it all
went downhill. My understanding is if the initial reboot goes well, then
you pick the chain option and that's supposed to finish up the install."

I assumed you thought the first boot was supposed to "finish the
process" of installing grub2. My bad.

> 
> 
>> If the boot process failed with the chainloading from grub-legacy, it
>> means that it would not have been a good idea to finish the process
>> anyway...
>   
>   The process didn't fail...which is why I ran the upgrade script.
> 
>>  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
>>> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another
>>> partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
>>>
>> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
>> "recommended" but not automatically installed. 
> 
>Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?

I can't read their minds, but it sure seems that installing os-prober as
a dependency would do no harm to "single-booting" systems, and would
save some trouble to "multi-booting" users. Maybe there's already a
"whishlist" bug opened about it ?

> 
>> I am using grub2 since
>> Lenny was testing, now on three squeeze, and three Ubuntu, no problem
>> here. Just got lucky maybe.
> 
>   Lucky is right - google problems with Grub2.
>
>   Don't get me wrong - it **seems** Grub2 will be an improvement over its
> predecessor but, at least in my case and it seems many others it's not quite 
> ready.
> 

Well, googling "problem with grub/lilo" will probably return ten times
more entries, but that doesn't mean much. The bootloader is indeed an
important part of the system, and is expected to work. I guess that's
why grub2 was not the default with Lenny, but now is the right time for
"testing" it extensively. My understanding is that Testing and Sid are
just meant for that (even if I don't like them to be broken...). And
there's always good old SuperGrubDisk...
Hope you'll get luckier next time !

Tom


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

On Monday 21 September 2009 09:49:39 Frank wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
> "thveillon.debian"  wrote:
> > The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
> > "recommended" but not automatically installed.
>
>Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?

Since grub-pc does not *require* os-prober to be installed to function, having 
the co-installation enforced by the package manager would be inappropriate.

Recommends relationships are the strongest relationship that is not strictly 
enforced by the package manager.  In the default configuration aptitude (the 
recommended package manager) installs Recommends.  The relevant configuration 
key is Aptitude::Recommends-Important.

It has been a long time since I used apt-get, but I believe the same is true 
of it; at the very least a message is shown to the user recommending the 
installation of os-prober.

So, the maintainers are assuming that at least one user would like to use 
GRUB2 without os-prober, which seems a safe assumption.  (I only have one 
installation on my home PC, so you can count me as that user if you'd like.)
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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Joe]

Frank wrote:

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"thveillon.debian"  wrote:


I still fail to understand what went wrong. After the installation and
reboot which went OK, I picked the chain option and that's  when it all
went downhill. 

The chaining from grub-legacy menu to grub2 is just supposed to enable
testing of the grub2 install, it doesn't install anything. One has to
run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" as root to finish the process, or simply
properly install grub2 in the mbr, and create the config.


  Sorry, but I did run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" after the chaining boot
went well.




If the boot process failed with the chainloading from grub-legacy, it
means that it would not have been a good idea to finish the process
anyway...
  
  The process didn't fail...which is why I ran the upgrade script.



 Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it

did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another
partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?


The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
"recommended" but not automatically installed. 


   Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?


I am using grub2 since
Lenny was testing, now on three squeeze, and three Ubuntu, no problem
here. Just got lucky maybe.


  Lucky is right - google problems with Grub2.
   
  Don't get me wrong - it **seems** Grub2 will be an improvement over its

predecessor but, at least in my case and it seems many others it's not quite 
ready.



I doubt that there's anything wrong with grub2, and it seemed to work OK 
when chained from grub, as it is doing again here now. It's the 
upgrade-from-grub-legacy which is the problem, I think. That 'stage 1.5' 
message should no longer have existed afterwards. My system has 
everything but /boot on lvm, and it's 64 bit (yes, I do know you can't 
chroot into 64 bits from 32 bits...now). I don't know if either or both 
of those things affected the upgrade, but it doesn't seem to have 
received the testing that one might have hoped for.


I'm on sid, by the way, and have been for some years, and this is the 
first time it's bitten me badly. I still don't understand why I was 
unable to fix this from chroot, and that's a bit worrying. In the days 
of lilo, I could fix a boot problem in ten minutes, and three of those 
were spent looking for the floppy... and another five reading Unix for 
Dummies to find out how vi worked again...


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Re: EIP: [] do_exit+0x40c/

[Florian Kriener]

On Sunday 20 September 2009 14:04:33 Paul Cartwright wrote:
> I started getting this error recently, and I'm not sure why. I found
>  this reference to a kernel error, but it says unstable/testing, and
>  it is rather OLD..:
> https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/bugme-new/2004-December/
> 011652.html
> 
> and these messages were in a terminal window I had up:
> 
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786600] Call Trace:
> 
> Message from sysl...@paulandcilla at Sun Sep 20 07:40:01 2009 ...
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786622]  []
>  do_group_exit+0x64/0x8d
> 
> Message from sysl...@paulandcilla at Sun Sep 20 07:40:01 2009 ...
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786634]  []
>  sys_exit_group+0xd/0x10
> 
> Message from sysl...@paulandcilla at Sun Sep 20 07:40:01 2009 ...
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786638]  []
>  sysenter_past_esp+0x78/0xb1
> 
> Message from sysl...@paulandcilla at Sun Sep 20 07:40:01 2009 ...
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786680]  ===
> 
> Message from sysl...@paulandcilla at Sun Sep 20 07:40:01 2009 ...
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786681] Code: dc 00 00 00 39 c2 75 ce f0
>  81 05 00 ea 36 c0 00 00 00 01 fb 0f 1f 84 00 00 00 00 00 90 8d 86 20
>  01 00 00 39 86 20 01 00 00 74 04 <0f> 0b eb fe 39 96 dc 00 00 00 74
>  04 0f 0b eb fe 8b 5c 24 08 81
> 
> Message from sysl...@paulandcilla at Sun Sep 20 07:40:01 2009 ...
> paulandcilla kernel: [128618.786719] EIP: []
>  do_exit+0x40c/0x5bb SS:ESP 0068:ea9a1f80
> 
> 
> 
> I'm running debian Lenny uptodate.
> uname -a
> Linux paulandcilla.homelinux.org 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Aug 19
>  06:06:52 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
> 

Sounds like a kernel bug. Can you reproduce the bug? Please send the 
output of dmesg. 


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Re: Fwd: kdump/kexec support

[Florian Kriener]

On Monday 21 September 2009 15:02:05 Celejar wrote:
> surreal  wrote:
> > Does debian lenny kernel support kdump/kexec support like RHEL 5 EE
> > server?
> 
> According to this page, Lenny has 2.6.26:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny#Kernelandutilities
> 
> and kexec is supported.  According to this page, it was added in
>  2.6.21:
> 
> http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFAQ#new-features-in-lenny

Right, and you can also find kexec-tools in lenny:

http://packages.debian.org/lenny/kexec-tools

AFAIR installing it just worked.


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Frank]

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 15:27:09 +0200
"thveillon.debian"  wrote:

> > I still fail to understand what went wrong. After the installation and
> > reboot which went OK, I picked the chain option and that's  when it all
> > went downhill. 
> 
> The chaining from grub-legacy menu to grub2 is just supposed to enable
> testing of the grub2 install, it doesn't install anything. One has to
> run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" as root to finish the process, or simply
> properly install grub2 in the mbr, and create the config.

  Sorry, but I did run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" after the chaining boot
went well.



> If the boot process failed with the chainloading from grub-legacy, it
> means that it would not have been a good idea to finish the process
> anyway...
  
  The process didn't fail...which is why I ran the upgrade script.

> 
>  Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> > did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another
> > partition. How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
> > 
> 
> The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
> "recommended" but not automatically installed. 

   Does that mean maintainers assume you only have one installation ?

>I am using grub2 since
> Lenny was testing, now on three squeeze, and three Ubuntu, no problem
> here. Just got lucky maybe.

  Lucky is right - google problems with Grub2.
   
  Don't get me wrong - it **seems** Grub2 will be an improvement over its
predecessor but, at least in my case and it seems many others it's not quite 
ready.

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Re: CPU default frequency is at 75%

[Stefan Monnier]

> Ondemand, the same as what appears in the applet, after boot.
> However, despite "Ondemand", even a huge CPU load does not make Debian
> asking for more CPU resources, such as 100%.

Notice that "ondemand" and such are completely implemented inside the
kernel.  So all the relevant parameters are in
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/.

> As I explained before, there is no modification about CPU frequency,
> even with a maximum load.

That's odd.  Unless your load is "nice"d, in which case it's not
considered as speed critical and will not cause the CPU frequency to
be increased.

>> I suggest you use just the ondemand governor and stop caring about the
>> issue at all. You will get full CPU power when you need it and save a
>> little power when you don't.
> My aim is not to save power. I am running many scientific-purpose
> applications, and they need full CPU power. As I often switch between
> many OSes, manually modifying manually governor is tedious. I
> installed kpowersave, and it works, but I am pretty deceived that it
> does not work with GNOME's utils.

There are lots of different scripts/programs/packages that can control
your CPU's frequency.  If you set your system's frequency via the
cpufrequtils package, then just create or edit the file
/etc/default/cpufrequtils and put:

  GOVERNOR="performance"

in it.  I personally put MIN_SPEED="2.2GHz" in mine instead, because
I want to save energy but my system seems to have a problem which makes
it crash occasionally (more specifically I see memory corruption) for
any CPU frequency lower than 2.2GHz.

>> A question that comes to my mind: how do you measure the current clock
>> frequency? Only by looking at the Gnome applet?
> On one hand, by looking at the GNOME applet.  On the other hand, by
> hearing fans, which are really noisy when I use "Performance" rather
> than "Ondemand".

Obviously, you disagree, but personally I'd prefer my long-running
calculations to take up 33% more time (by running at only 75%), if that
saved me from suffering through noisy fans.
Unless of course the machine is far away and you can't hear it. ;-)


Stefan



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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

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Hello Charles,

> boot process:) Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On

Whilst I can't offer any advice about where and what went wrong in your
instance, I can tell you that I've been running Grub2 for almost a year
now.  Unfortunately, I can't remember the exact steps I took to get
things up and running.  I do seem to recall that it meant, for the most
part, accepting the defaults offered.

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Re: passwd: Permission denied ?

[Sven Joachim]

On 2009-09-21 15:27 +0200, Jon Dowland wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:39:28AM +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:
>
>> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1358 2009-09-18 09:21 /etc/passwd
>
> These permissions are wrong.

No, they are not.  It's /etc/passwd, not /usr/bin/passwd.

Sven


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Re: No low-disk-space notification in Gnome?

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/21/09, Klistvud  wrote:
>  I'm running dangerously low on disk space in my /home partition, but
>  Gnome has not once alerted me disk space was low. Is this a known Gnome
>
I don't know about Gnome, but Xfce has a xfce4-fsguard-plugin for the
panel, which alerts you for any defined mount point and danger level.
Dunno if you can put in on the Gnome panel, but you can use it in
Xfce. Otherwise, there might be some similar applet for gnome.
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Re: passwd: Permission denied ?

[Jon Dowland]

On Fri, Sep 18, 2009 at 11:39:28AM +0200, Frank Bonnet wrote:

> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 1358 2009-09-18 09:21 /etc/passwd

These permissions are wrong.

The missing suid bit (as someone else pointed out) will
prevent anyone but root using it.

The missing e(x)ecute bit will prevent even root.

Either restore +x (and +s), or something like

# /lib/ld-2.9.so /usr/bin/passwd

I would also worry about *precicely how* the permissions
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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[thveillon.debian]

Charles wrote:
> On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:47:48 +0100
> Joe  wrote:
> 
[snip...]
> 
> 
> 
>   Well as I said in earlier mail, the Supergrub disk saved my...err..bacon.
>   It allowed me to reinstall Grub, then I purged Grub-pc (grub2) and was
> back in business.
> I still fail to understand what went wrong. After the installation and reboot
> which went OK, I picked the chain option and that's  when it all went 
> downhill.
> My understanding is if the initial reboot goes well, then you pick the chain 
> option
> and that's supposed to finish up the install. Instead what it did was finish 
> my 
> boot process:)

The chaining from grub-legacy menu to grub2 is just supposed to enable
testing of the grub2 install, it doesn't install anything. One has to
run "upgrade-from-grub-legacy" as root to finish the process, or simply
properly install grub2 in the mbr, and create the config.
If the boot process failed with the chainloading from grub-legacy, it
means that it would not have been a good idea to finish the process
anyway...

 Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update it
> did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another 
> partition.
> How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?
> 

The package "os-prober" is taking care of other OS detection, it's
"recommended" but not automatically installed. I am using grub2 since
Lenny was testing, now on three squeeze, and three Ubuntu, no problem
here. Just got lucky maybe.

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Re: Fwd: kdump/kexec support

[Celejar]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 11:30:11 +
surreal  wrote:

> Does debian lenny kernel support kdump/kexec support like RHEL 5 EE
> server?

According to this page, Lenny has 2.6.26:

http://wiki.debian.org/NewInLenny#Kernelandutilities

and kexec is supported.  According to this page, it was added in 2.6.21:

http://wiki.debian.org/KernelFAQ#new-features-in-lenny

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Re: Grub update problems

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Andrei Popescu  wrote:

> On Sun,20.Sep.09, 22:34:23, Frank McCormick wrote:
>  
> [snip grub2 troubles]
> 
> As far as I understand you "fixed" your problem by going back to grub1.
> 
> For the archives, to boot other OSes on your machine just install 
> os-prober and run update-grub. In unstable os-prober is recommended by 
> grub-common.



  I saw your recommendation for os-prober in prowling the net looking for 
solutions, 
but seeing as I could do very little even after chroot'ing  I turned my 
thoughts 
elsewhere. It might have worked...who knows.

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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

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On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 09:47:48 +0100
Joe  wrote:

> Frank wrote:
> >
> > During today's update on my testing machine I was asked whether I wanted to
> > update to grub2. I said OK - after the re boot I picked the chain option.
> > The boot went well, so I ran the update-from-grub-legacy script. Now I am
> > getting Grub 1.5 error and the boot goes nowhere.
> >
> >   
> I hate to say this, but you may have a problem. The usual answer to this 
> is to boot into some version of Debian, as you have done, then mount 
> your HD root partition and chroot into it. You can then run commands 
> which can hopefully rebuild the Grub system, or even reinstall it.
> 

  I tried that but nothing seemed to work

> The bad news is that I tried that after the attempted update to Grub2, I 
> even tried booting the netinstall CD and installing Grub from there. I 
> even tried installing lilo.
> 
> 
> I suppose at some point, the updater will force the complete upgrade. By 
> that time, I assume that the netinstall image will install Grub2 from 
> scratch, so I'll backup and reinstall again. Just like Windows...



  Well as I said in earlier mail, the Supergrub disk saved my...err..bacon.
  It allowed me to reinstall Grub, then I purged Grub-pc (grub2) and was
back in business.
I still fail to understand what went wrong. After the installation and reboot
which went OK, I picked the chain option and that's  when it all went downhill.
My understanding is if the initial reboot goes well, then you pick the chain 
option
and that's supposed to finish up the install. Instead what it did was finish my 
boot process:) Obviously grub-pc is not ready for primetime yet. On the update 
it
did on my machine, it failed to pick up the Ubuntu installation on another 
partition.
How did it get migrated to Squeeze ?

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Re: how to migrate smb accounts to new lenny system?

[Robert P. J. Day]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009, Robert P. J. Day wrote:

>   having finally made the switch from an old server running lenny to
> a new one (running at the same IP address), most functions seem to
> be working, but samba shares are failing -- people who used to be
> able to access shares from their windows systems now can't, and the
> log file reports that:
>
>   check_ntlm_password:  Authentication for user [fred] -> [fred]
> FAILED with error NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER
>
>   i've reproduced all of the standard user/group files so normal
> logins work just fine.  i've also copied all of the samba config
> files that seemed relevant.  can someone give me a hint as to the
> file(s) i should have reproduced from the old system on the new one?
> or must i run "smbpasswd" for each account on the new system, or
> something like that?  naturally, i'd like the users to not have to
> reconfigure anything on their ends.

  while this is somewhat off-topic (not being strictly speaking a
debian question), here's another observation that might debug this.
from /var/log/samba/log.nmbd:

[2009/09/21 08:31:23,  0]
nmbd/nmbd_become_lmb.c:become_local_master_stage2(395)
  *

  Samba name server MAIN is now a local master browser for workgroup
CORP on subnet 192.168.169.10

  *
[2009/09/21 08:31:23,  0]
nmbd/nmbd_browsesync.c:find_domain_master_name_query_fail(350)
  find_domain_master_name_query_fail:
  Unable to find the Domain Master Browser name CORP<1b> for the
workgroup CORP.
  Unable to sync browse lists in this workgroup.


  it seems, then, that the new linux system tries to become the local
master browser, but (am i reading this right?) fails so that
subsequent queries to the master browser also fail, perhaps causing
all authentication requests after that to fail.

  is there a simple fix for this?  i've tried reproducing everything
necessary from the old machine, but i clearly missed something.

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how to migrate smb accounts to new lenny system?

[Robert P. J. Day]

  having finally made the switch from an old server running lenny to a
new one (running at the same IP address), most functions seem to be
working, but samba shares are failing -- people who used to be able to
access shares from their windows systems now can't, and the log file
reports that:

  check_ntlm_password:  Authentication for user [fred] -> [fred]
FAILED with error NT_STATUS_NO_SUCH_USER

  i've reproduced all of the standard user/group files so normal
logins work just fine.  i've also copied all of the samba config files
that seemed relevant.  can someone give me a hint as to the file(s) i
should have reproduced from the old system on the new one?  or must i
run "smbpasswd" for each account on the new system, or something like
that?  naturally, i'd like the users to not have to reconfigure
anything on their ends.

rday
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No low-disk-space notification in Gnome?

[Klistvud]

Hello, list!

I'm running dangerously low on disk space in my /home partition, but 
Gnome has not once alerted me disk space was low. Is this a known Gnome 
bug, has this ever worked or...? What's your experience with low disk 
space notification in Debian/Gnome? BTW, I'm running Lenny.

TIA and have a nice day!

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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon,21.Sep.09, 10:32:19, Steve Kemp wrote:
> 
> http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/
> 
>Works for me on my laptops..

That looks very interesting. Why isn't it available from official Debian 
repos? It might solve the endless "let's make postfix the default MTA in 
Debian" threads on debian-devel.

Regards,
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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Florian Kriener]

On Monday 21 September 2009 10:06:25 Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> > >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
> >
> > Ok, first response was that nullmailer might work.  Is the
> > intent to get it to another MTA which doe the final delivery
> > nullmailer works.  If it is for delivery on the local machine then
> > you need an MTA/MDA.
> 
> Well the requirements were:
> 
> - respects /etc/aliases
> - able to do local delivery
> 
> NOT required (and not desired):
> 
> - listening to port 25

You could use postfix and disable smtpd in master.cf.


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Re: Grub update problems

[Jack Schneider]

On Mon, 21 Sep 2009 08:54:44 +0300
Andrei Popescu  wrote:

> On Sun,20.Sep.09, 22:34:23, Frank McCormick wrote:
>  
> [snip grub2 troubles]
> 
> As far as I understand you "fixed" your problem by going back to
> grub1.
> 
> > I also don't see any reference in it to the Ubuntu which I have on 
> > hda3. Debian testing is on hda2.
> 
> For the archives, to boot other OSes on your machine just install 
> os-prober and run update-grub. In unstable os-prober is recommended
> by grub-common.
> 
> Regards,
> Andrei
Andrei, thanks, I think. 8-)
I am Paranoid this AM.  I have two broken machines from this problem...
I'm on the last...

Here's the output from update-grub:
sudo update-grub
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found Debian background: moreblue-orbit-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.30-1-686
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.30-1-686
Found Microsoft Windows XP Professional on /dev/hda1
done


Does that guarantee a safe reboot??? 
Thanks, Jack


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Re: Support for the Maxtor Onetouch4 Plus

[Chris]

Tim Beauregard wrote:

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List,

Is there support for the Maxtor Onetouch4 Plus 1TB external drive in
Debian 5.0 release? If not, are there 1TB external drives that are



I can't see the ums-onetouch module within the 2.6.26 kernel (current
5.0 kernel), however it exists in the 2.6.30 kernel (current unstable
kernel).  I have a 500GB OneTouch as well as a 750GB one, both of which
I wiped the hidden backup partition by using cfdisk and mkntfs.  I have
no idea whether the button works (I never tested it prior to wiping the
drive), nor whether the 1GB is supported, although I suspect it is.

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Fwd: kdump/kexec support

[surreal]

Does debian lenny kernel support kdump/kexec support like RHEL 5 EE server?
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Gnome-volume-manager not automounting fixed partitions?

[Klistvud]

Howdy, fellow debianites!

On my system (Lenny), gnome-volume-manager won't mount additional 
partitions 
that are present on my disk. I'm talking about clicking on the drive 
icons in Nautilus: gnome-volume-manager obviously detects them (hence 
the icons are 
present) but clicking on them just produces a notification stating 
"Cannot mount volume. You are not privileged to mount volume 'ZX 
Spectrum'". What gives? Is automount disabled by default in Deban, or 
is this an error condition on my system? And, if the former is the 
case, 
what has to be done to enable automount?

(P.S. I know the partitions can be mounted by hand or by adding them to 
fstab -- that's *not* what I am asking about ;)

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Xfce GNU/Icecat and Gnome-programs

[ura]

Sorry, I asked the wrong question. 
In connection everything is fine. 
I was trying to find configuration files gnome-preferences, but they
could not find nowhere. Just do not want to download a lot of packages,
running low on disk space. 



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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Steve Lamb]

Tzafrir Cohen wrote:

Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.


Given that he is doing this for local messages from daemons only I think
resident memory is the primary concern, not efficiency of once or twice a day 
deliveries.  Something I can understand given that I've moved most of my 
productivity work to a Dell Mini.  The thought of having an MTA resident all 
the time doesn't exactly fill me with glee.  Not that this machine can't 
handle it (it is more capable than most people think) but because this machine 
has no business having a resident MTA.



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Re: Xfce GNU/Icecat and Gnome-programs

[Lee Winter]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 5:45 AM, ura  wrote:
> Good day!
> I have this problem: using Xfce, browser GNU/Icecat, Evolution, and
> other Gnome-programs can not open links to Internet.
> How can I fix it?

Can you you reach your ISP from the command line with ping?

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Re: Xfce GNU/Icecat and Gnome-programs

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/21/09, ura  wrote:
>  I have this problem: using Xfce, browser GNU/Icecat, Evolution, and
>  other Gnome-programs can not open links to Internet.
>
How do you access internet? Cable, wifi? What is your connection
manager (NetworkManager, Wicd)? Do you need to pass through a proxy
server?
Please give more details.
Liviu


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Xfce GNU/Icecat and Gnome-programs

[ura]

Good day! 
I have this problem: using Xfce, browser GNU/Icecat, Evolution, and
other Gnome-programs can not open links to Internet. 
How can I fix it?
Sorry for my bad English.



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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 11:06:25AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> Well the requirements were:
> 
> - respects /etc/aliases
> - able to do local delivery
> 
> NOT required (and not desired):
> 
> - listening to port 25

What's wrong with listening on localhost:25 ?

IIRC this is the default configuration of both exim and postfix on 
Debian.

Not running a daemon means that you have the overhead of startup for
each new delivery. It implies less efficient handling of a queued mail.

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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 09:30:28AM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> And did some research. From the packages providing mail-transport-agent 
> (except the usual candidates) only xmail and dma seem interesting.
> 
> Does anyone have experience with any of the two?

I tried using xmail for a while, but it didn't seem capable enough. It
is too much of a stnd-alone server. The documentation wasn't very clear
and configuration files weren't convinient.

I would generally avoid using a mailer that doesn't queue on computers
that may be disconnected from the mail hub.

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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Steve Kemp]

On Mon Sep 21, 2009 at 11:06:25 +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Mon,21.Sep.09, 00:48:29, Steve Lamb wrote:
> > Andrei Popescu wrote:
> > >Besides (someone please correct me if I'm wrong) cron doesn't need
> > >an MTA listening on port 25, it uses /sbin/sendmail.
> >
> > Ok, first response was that nullmailer might work.  Is the
> > intent to get it to another MTA which doe the final delivery
> > nullmailer works.  If it is for delivery on the local machine then
> > you need an MTA/MDA.
>
> Well the requirements were:
>
> - respects /etc/aliases
> - able to do local delivery
>
> NOT required (and not desired):
>
> - listening to port 25

http://www.steve.org.uk/Software/skxmail/

   Works for me on my laptops..

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Re: no sound in headphones

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/21/09, Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
>  > # from http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php/Dmix
> did you read this?
>  the info there could help you. I don't know exactly how to help you. here
>  everything is working fine
>
Not entirely, but will take a closer look. In any case, thank you for
all your suggestions thus far; I had no idea how to tackle the
debugging on this one. Soon I will probably either file a bug against
Debian's alsa or switch to alsa-user. It seems to me more and more
that this is some buggy alsa behaviour.
Best
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Re: no sound in headphones

[Liviu Andronic]

On 9/20/09, Emanoil Kotsev  wrote:
> When starting multimedia application it picks up the default audio device
>  which is not your headset output.
>
Shouldn't the switch occur automatically when external speakers or
headphones are plugged in? This is the behaviour that I always encountered
on Windows and on Linux.


>  you can play with aplay -D ... man aplay and findout yourself which
device
>  id the headphone one.
>
I get the following output:
li...@debian-liv:~$ aplay -l
 List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices 
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 0: STAC92xx Analog [STAC92xx Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: SB [HDA ATI SB], device 1: STAC92xx Digital [STAC92xx Digital]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: HDMI [HDA ATI HDMI], device 3: ATI HDMI [ATI HDMI]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


li...@debian-liv:~$ aplay -L
default:CARD=SB
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
Default Audio Device
front:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
Front speakers
surround40:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Analog
7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
iec958:CARD=SB,DEV=0
HDA ATI SB, STAC92xx Digital
IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
null
Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
hdmi:CARD=HDMI
HDA ATI HDMI, ATI HDMI
HDMI Audio Output


I am now testing each PCM device on a .wav file, and the first three
(including "front") do not behave differently in the presence of plugged-in
headphones.

For the fourth and fifth, I get this error:
sh>aplay -D surround41 "autumn_(from_the_four_seasons).wav"  (5809)
Playing WAVE 'autumn_(from_the_four_seasons).wav' : Signed 16 bit Little
Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
aplay: set_params:957: Broken configuration for this PCM: no configurations
available
sh>aplay -D surround41 "autumn_(from_the_four_seasons).wav" (5809) returned
'1'


The next two, surround51 and surround71, behave in the same way as first
three: when headphones are plugged in, the speaker is not muted and the
audio stream is not switched to the headphones.
Probably as expected, iec958 and null produce no perceivable sound output.

I also did this debugging on alsa 1.0.21 (unstable), with no change in
behaviour.

A wild guess: could JACK of PulseAudio help in such cases? Would it be worth
understanding how they work and configure them?

I also found this post [1] that suggests to rebuild alsa with
./configure --with-oss=yes --with-sequencer=yes --with-cards=hda-intel

Is there way to find out whether the one shipped on Debian is built in this
way?
Liviu

[1]
http://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-u...@lists.sourceforge.net/msg20526.html

Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Rakotomandimby Mihamina]

09/21/2009 11:46 AM, Andrei Popescu:

- respects /etc/aliases
- able to do local delivery

Postfix with its non-monolithic architecture would help; but you'll
need an MDA in that case (Exim fills both roles).

Huh? Postfix works fine without an MDA...


He did not tell Postfix doesnt work. Or my english understanding is very bad :-)


- I don't want to run a listening MTA on some machine just for that


Most (All) MTA are able to listen to _just_ a set of IP addresses:
- 127.0.0.1
- 192.168.x.x


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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Steve Lamb]

Andrei Popescu wrote:

- I don't want to run a listening MTA on some machine just for that


Then don't run it in daemon mode.  Not seeing the problem here.  It isn't 
like when it is called locally it binds to port 25.


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Re: Grub 1.5 error after update

[Joe]

Frank wrote:

I have googled the problem but can't make head nor tail of the solutions.

During today's update on my testing machine I was asked whether I wanted to
update to grub2. I said OK - after the re boot I picked the chain option. The
boot went well, so I ran the update-from-grub-legacy script. Now I am getting
Grub 1.5 error and the boot goes nowhere.

I booted a live cd and had a look at grub.cfg but can't make head nor tail of 
it.

I also don't see any reference in it to the Ubuntu which I have on hda3. Debian
testing is on hda2.

Can anyone help?

I will have to stay in this live cd and may only be able to read on the
web..which I guess is gonna be a problem.

  
I hate to say this, but you may have a problem. The usual answer to this 
is to boot into some version of Debian, as you have done, then mount 
your HD root partition and chroot into it. You can then run commands 
which can hopefully rebuild the Grub system, or even reinstall it.


The bad news is that I tried that after the attempted update to Grub2, I 
even tried booting the netinstall CD and installing Grub from there. I 
even tried installing lilo.


Absolutely nothing worked, I could not get further than that wretched 
stage1.5 followed by error 15, which is an artifact of the original 
Grub. Eventually I gave up and let the netinstall run its course, then 
rebuilt from a dpkg --get-selections which I keep to hand. I'm back on 
the chain-Grub2-from-Grub and there's no way on Earth I'm going to 
'complete' the upgrade again.


I suppose at some point, the updater will force the complete upgrade. By 
that time, I assume that the netinstall image will install Grub2 from 
scratch, so I'll backup and reinstall again. Just like Windows...


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Re: Lightweight alternative MTA? [was: Re: Starting MTA:]

[Andrei Popescu]

On Mon,21.Sep.09, 01:28:21, Steve Lamb wrote:
> Andrei Popescu wrote:
> >Well the requirements were:
> 
> >- respects /etc/aliases
> >- able to do local delivery
> 
> Then you need an MTA/MDA and just don't run it in daemon mode.
> I fail to see what the issue is with Exim in that case.  If runsize
> for the transient time it is delivering mail is a problem maybe
> Postfix with its non-monolithic architecture would help; but you'll
> need an MDA in that case (Exim fills both roles).
 
Huh? Postfix works fine without an MDA...

> Personally I don't understand why one wants local delivery of
> those messages.  I toss nullmailer on my machines, have it deliver
> to my domain's MTA and get delivered to my normal email.  If I went
> the local delivery route I'd have 5 different local accounts to
> monitor.  :/

- I don't want to run a listening MTA on some machine just for that
- I don't want to send root mail via some external provider
- the bash mail notification whenever I login via ssh is enough for me.

Regards,
Andrei
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