Re: How to play 3gp audio files?

[Dotan Cohen]

On 16 April 2010 22:00, John Magolske  wrote:
> I'm looking for a way to play *.3gp audio files from the command line.
> Mplayer doesn't seem to work:
>
>    % Mplayer some-audio-file.3gp
>    [...]
>    Playing some-audio-file.3gp.
>    libavformat file format detected.
>    [lavf] Audio stream found, -aid 0
>    ==
>    Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
>    Cannot find codec 'libamr_nb' in libavcodec...
>    ADecoder init failed :(
>    ADecoder init failed :(
>    Cannot find codec for audio format 0x726D6173.
>    Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
>    Audio: no sound
>    Video: no video
>
> Any suggestions for alternate approaches, pointers on how & what to
> install in terms of a codec, or maybe a way to convert these files
> (ideally without transcoding degradation)?
>
> These audio files were created by the android app "Voice Recorder".
>
> TIA for any help,
>
> John
>

This is by far the best app for converting 3gp files:
http://www.miksoft.net/mobileMediaConverter.htm

It's not cli, it's ugly, but it works better than anything else. The
sound qualit of the resulting files is excellent, and it will work in
batch.

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Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

[Mark]

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 6:03 AM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

>
> I have been using debian-multimedia with Debian stable for years without
> any problems. It is a vauluable and reliable service, and is provided by
> a well-known Debian developer.
>
> To the OP: do you have an example of a file that (the debian-multimedia
> version of) mplayer refuses to play?
>

I also have been using debian-multimedia for LAME mp3 and am very thankful
for its existence.  The file was a quicktime .mov file they made with their
own camera and is on their machine so unfortunately I cannot get a snippet
of it.

FWIW, I did 2 fresh Lenny installs on my friend's machine, the first one
with debian-multimedia which resulted in the .mov file not playing back in
mplayer, and a subsequent second Lenny install, identical to the first
except without the debian-multimedia, in which the .mov file played great in
mplayer.  I don't know if it's a bug or not, but has anyone else had this
specific problem (with .mov files in mplayer)?  If so I will gladly file the
bug report.  I've read about several different bugs with mplayer on various
forums but have not seen this one specifically.

Thank you,
Mark

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Re: How to migrate my localhost php site to my ISP - Was: willing to learn php basics

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On Sat, Apr 17 at 11:15, Bernard penned:
> 
> Thanks for your help Monique. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes
> sense that the ISP only allows one user to log into databases.
> Problem is that outside users will have to connect to my database
> through a php script that will contain my password !

Nope.  There are a few ways to deal with this; Joe mentioned a common
one, which is to have your password stored in a file that's outside of
your website directory.

Bear in mind, many, many people and businesses have successfully built
websites using both their own servers and host providers.  So for
almost any "wait, that can't be right, because it causes this
problem!" situation - there's almost certainly a readily available
solution.

> >>Could someone tell me where I could find relevant information and
> >>docs ? And maybe mention one or more ISP that would provide
> >>suitable mysql facilities ?
> >
> >As for hosting companies, I have been very happy with www.pair.com
> >for years.  They provide I believe three database users -
> >read-only, read-write, and full access.  You would only use the
> >full access user to create the database structure - tables,
> >indexes, etc.

Given that this is a Debian list, I should mention that Pair runs
FreeBSD systems, not Linux.

> Prior to subscribing to an expensive hosting, I wish to test the
> system on free ISP. I have two of them here. I tested them both, but
> testing did not go far as for now, since I am far from having
> understood how it is supposed to work. No doc is provided

*snip*

In my experience paying for web hosting - you do get what you pay for.
Pair is not the cheapest host in the business, but they have
had phenomenal uptimes, excellent support, and provide reasonable
access to the system.  I've been burned by cheap web hosts before -
including a company that cancelled a friend's account because he'd
typed "ls /etc" and they found it in his bash history file.  Wow.  I'm
not saying that you can't find a good host cheaper than Pair - for me
personally, Pair is cheap enough and good enough that I haven't looked
further since I started using them.  I should also note that I'm only
running a personal vanity site, not a business or service.  And if
you're not based in the US, I don't know how much sense it makes to
work with a US host provider.

I've never installed mysqladmin, so I can't speak to that.  I've
always just used command line tools for mySQL.

Anyway, I don't mean to sound like an advertisement for one particular
company.  I'm sure there are many reputable, reliable hosting
companies out there.  It does sound like you need a fair amount of
information to do this for the first time, so you might want to choose
a host provider that explicitly includes support as part of the deal.

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Re: How to migrate my localhost php site to my ISP - Was: willing to learn php basics

[Monique Y. Mudama]

On Sat, Apr 17 at 17:02, Joe penned:
> 
> In order to achieve this, you need write access to that directory
> tree above apache's docroot, with the ability to set permissions
> correctly. From what you say, it does not seem that you have that
> with your current ISP. You would seem to need to spend some money,
> even before you are sure you will have the access you need.

There are a few different ways to deal with not exposing your password
to the world, but one thing I do want to note: in a hosted situation,
you should have a user home directory in addition to the directory for
your website.  If you need a file to be inaccessible from the web, you
can just put it in your home directory.  There's no need for root
level permissions.

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Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

[Alan Ianson]

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 11:01 -0700, Alan Ianson wrote:
> On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 06:10 +0200, Clive McBarton wrote:
> 
> > > I have confirmed one of the Smart Upgrades contained in debian-multimedia 
> > > on
> > > Lenny does in fact cause this Fatal Error.  I reinstalled Lenny on the 
> > > same
> > > machine tonight, without adding debian-multimedia to 
> > > /etc/apt/sources.list,
> > > and mplayer plays the .mov files just fine.
> > > 
> > > Wanted to share in case anyone else has this problem.
> > > 
> > > Mark
> > > 
> > 
> > Adding debian-multimedia.org breaks a couple of things. Including vlc. I
> > don't know why they don't fix their repository.
> > 
> > I'm curious if many people use debian-multimedia. Is it trustworthy?
> 
> I've also used debian-multimedia for years without any problems. That's
> not to say problems don't crop up but I haven't noticed. I dunno where
> to report bugs against debian-multimedia but I suspect Christian
> Marrilat would like to know if there are problems.

I just read this in the FAQ at debian-multimedia.org..

"Q.How to report bug ?

A. If the bug is related to packaging you can send me a bug report,
otherwise the best is to contact the upstream author."

I misspelled his name, it should be Christian Marillat. His email is
marillat (at) free (dot) fr.


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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Alan Ianson]

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 22:32 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT), Alan Ianson wrote:
> > 
> > I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked
> > so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use
> > iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that
> > broke a lot of things that used to work well.
> >
> > I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I
> > use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the
> > plugin still don't work.
> 
> That's not good news.  Which plugin?  The Sun non-free one?  There is one
> site that I used to use a lot that requires that to work.  (It's a stock
> analysis site.)  I haven't been in the market lately, but I expect to be
> active again at some point.  And when I do want to use it, I want it to
> work!

Yes, that's the one I use. There is progress with java in Epiphany. The
java test page...

http://java.com/en/download/installed.jsp?detect=jre&try=1

does work as expected now where it didn't a short time ago. I'm happy
with the way Epiphany works now myself, but my gf likes to play games at
pogo.com and that website complains that the plugin isn't installed even
though it is, and I hear grumbling about that on a regular basis.. :)

> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway?  It was working so well.
> I still use it in Lenny.  But not in Squeeze.  Not anymore.

I'm not certain but the devs must feel it's a good strategy for the
future...



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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Ron Johnson]

On 2010-04-17 21:32, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]


Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway?  It was working so well.
I still use it in Lenny.  But not in Squeeze.  Not anymore.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WebKit#Origins

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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Stephen Powell]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 15:25:11 -0400 (EDT), Alan Ianson wrote:
> 
> I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked
> so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use
> iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that
> broke a lot of things that used to work well.
>
> I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I
> use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the
> plugin still don't work.

That's not good news.  Which plugin?  The Sun non-free one?  There is one
site that I used to use a lot that requires that to work.  (It's a stock
analysis site.)  I haven't been in the market lately, but I expect to be
active again at some point.  And when I do want to use it, I want it to
work!

Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway?  It was working so well.
I still use it in Lenny.  But not in Squeeze.  Not anymore.

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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Stephen Powell]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 16:16:51 -0400 (EDT), Steve Kemp wrote:
> I think I over-reacted because I'm used to seeing people give
> lists of alleged problems in software, but without enough details to
> allow anybody else to confirm them, or investigate.
> Sometimes you'll get lucky and somebody else will report it; but posting
> to the users mailing list thing like:
> 
>* I use software XX but it is buggy and now I use something else
> 
> Just feels like a random rant, not the start of a useful or productive
> discussion.  (Which is pretty much what you did.)

I see your point.  I'll try to give more details next time.

> Stephen Powell wrote:
>> As for the reply bug, I just noticed it today; and no, I haven't
>> reported a bug yet.  I'm not sure I'm going to.  I already said why.
> 
> Indeed.  Still if it affects one site it probably affects others,
> unless it is caused by a particularly malformed
> HTML/javascript/whatever that site uses behind the scenes.
> On that basis its useful to report, if only so that other users
> of that particular site can see it.
> 
> Even without that perhaps saving the page, and associated media
> to your local machine might still trigger it. If that is the case you
> can trim down the page(s) a lot and see if you can find out what causes
> it yourself.  (Assuming you're familiar with HTML & so on.)

OK, I'll tell you what.  Since I know that a newer version which fixes
at least one bug I'm experiencing is waiting in the wings in Sid,
and since Squeeze hasn't frozen yet, I'll wait until the new version
migrates to Squeeze.  (Let's hope that Squeeze doesn't freeze first.)
And then I'll try again.  And if I still get the same error, I'll
at least *try* to come up with a test case.

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Re: horrible mc colorscheme

[godo]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I just made the mistake of my life and upgraded mc from 
2:4.6.2~git20080311-4 to 3:4.7.0.1-1.


And the new color scheme is enough to cause instant blindness :-(
No kidding!

How do I get back to what I had?
Anybody?



So what happened is that starting with 4.7.0 mc supports skins.

There are 5 skins shipped with mc:

darkfar - black background
default - the old default: blue background
double-lines - like default but with double lines. Couldn't get that to 
work

featured - like double-lines
gotar - black backround

I found 2 skins googling:

elite_commander - unreadable with black backround
bluemoon - black background.

I found no skins anywhere with my choice for years: white background.

So it's back to the old blue default because it takes days of diddling 
to make up a skin.


Hugo



Hi,
I was just download and open elite_commander skin.
I think if in:
[core]
_default_=gray;

change to white
[core]
_default_=white;
it should be white background.
I don't have mc so I can't try, but it seems easy to modified.
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Aufs + samba not playing nicely in squeeze/sid

[Jon mailinglists]

Hi,


I've got a server on which I'm merging a few different directories
using aufs. I then share the merged folder in samba (as read only) so
I easily can look at the files from my workstation. But my workstation
crashes when I try to access files in the share in question. It also
spews out messages to dmesg (attached).

Looks like a kernel bug (or cifs/aufs module to be more precise) but
I'm not sure if it's a user error so I'm trying here first.

And about my system:

uname -a
Linux hostname 2.6.32-trunk-686 #1 SMP Sun Jan 10 06:32:16 UTC 2010
i686 GNU/Linux

cat /etc/debian_version
squeeze/sid

It's the debian kernel linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686.

Any more info needed?

/Jon


oops.log.gz
Description: GNU Zip compressed data

how to activate canbery

[abdelkader belahcene]

hi,
I want to hear  the login sound when I log in debian,
it is done with ubuntu, I tried to do the same, it failed with the error


b...@belaptop:~$ canberra-gtk-play -f
/usr/share/sounds/gnome/default/desktop-login.ogg
Failed to play sound: Sound disabled

the sound is enabled since i can play music ,  and play the same file
with kaffeine for example.

please how to enabled it
thanks

Timezones for Kontact seriously broken in Lenny

[John A. Sullivan III]

Hello, all.  We have some clients eager to migrate from
Exchange/Outlook/Windows to Debian Lenny.  Zimbra is working well on the
back end but is lacking as an Outlook replacement - great web interface
but still lacking some essential features.  Evolution does not support
Address Books from Zimbra so that leaves us with Kontact.  Kontact is
great except it seems seriously broken in several regards specifically
Korganizer.  The KDE response is to upgrade to KDE4.  Since we are on
Lenny, we are on KDE 3.5 and we'd like to keep it that way until KDE4
matures a bit more.  How are Lenny users handling the crippling bugs? I
did not see anything in backports.  Here's what we are seeing:

Timezones: Any appointments synchronized with Korganizer from Zimbra are
interpreted as UTC.  Thus, all appointments are offset by our offset
from UTC.  This is the bug which is rendering it unusable and is
apparently well known.  I can't believe this is broken in a production
system.

Malformed URIs: Calendar requests via IMAP are requesting
myserver.mycompany.com:993Calender instead of
myserver.mycompany.com:993/Calender.  We can work around this by using
webdav instead.

This is crippling us on a potentially huge Lenny deployment.  Any know
fixes? Thanks - John


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Re: xen

[Sam Leon]

IAN DELANEY wrote:

Hello there,  Ny name is Ian, from Perth Australia.

I have a question to be answered please.  I'm a linux user, so I use 
suse, debian, ubuntu and gentoo, and fedora.
I'm interested in exploring the capabilities of xen and have done so an 
all the above.
I'm in a brand new instance of squeeze and have just perused the 
packages in synaptic for the first time.
I have recently used karmic lenny including a xen live cd which uses 
lenny as a dom host.
This has lead to submitting bug reports because the collection of 
packages that are used to support virt-manager and xen are extensive and 
quite problem ridden.  I am now to try the latest packages provided by 
squeeze.


I can't help but notice  THERE IS NO XEN KERNEL.

So, why is it so?  This is like karmic revisited.  No xen kernel.  I 
experimented extensively in karmic only to submit bug reports that were 
ignored because Ubuntu does not support xen as a host, dom0.  

What is the policy then?  Why has Ubuntu retracted supporting xen dom0? 
 Is it the same for debian?
Why are all xen packages provided but no kernel?  I have a xen kernel in 
any case, but it is an important ommision.
Ubuntu and debian have provided and supported xen kernels for previous 
versions.  Has it been unofficially left to SUSE to invest support in 
xen as a virtualisation form?



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Xen on Testing/Squeeze and on Unstable/Sid:
http://wiki.debian.org/Xen

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Re: Dual channel memory question

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Aioanei Rares wrote:

On 04/16/2010 02:33 AM, Eduardo M KALINOWSKI wrote:

On 04/15/2010 07:59 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

Aioanei Rares put forth on 4/15/2010 3:16 PM:


No, it means that 2 one-gig modules in same-coloured slots will
theoretically work better. I have one module in a dual-channel mobo 
and

it works ok. Most desktop/workstation mobos do.
No, that's not correct.  If the mobo DIMM slots are colored, you put 
one
DIMM in each color slot for dual channel operation, not both DIMMs 
in the

same colored slots.


I believe different manufactures follow different conventions. For 
some it's the two in same-color slots, for others in different-color 
slots. When in doubt, check the manual



One, I work with hardware everyday and I've assembled more computers 
than I can count. Two, Stan, I find your remark pretty offensive, 
really. Gigabyte, Asus, Intel mobos work by the principle 'same colour 
== dual channel'. Please check your facts before trying to sound elitist.





Checking the wiki page again, it says,

"If the motherboard has two pairs of differently colored DIMM sockets 
(the colors indicate which bank they belong to, bank 0 or bank 1), then 
one can place a matched pair of memory modules in bank 0, but a 
different-capacity pair of modules in bank 1, as long as they are of the 
same speed."


Which says to me that if I have a board with 4 memory slots of which 2 
are colored light-blue and 2 are colored black and 2 1GB modules of 
identical speed, then I place both modules in either the light-blue 
slots of the black slots.




Checking the manual of this:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131636

it colors the DIMM slots blue/black/blue/black

labeling them DIMM_A1,DIMM_A2,DIMM_B1,DIMM_B2

and says that 2 DIMM modules can be placed either in A1 + B1 or in A2 + 
B2, that is either in the 2 blue slots or in the 2 black slots, but 
preferably in the 2 blue slots.


Hugo















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How to remove oowriter delay on opening document?

[Sthu Deus]

Good day.


I have oowriter from testing repo installed w/ all the necessary dependencies. 
Now at opening of the first document it hangs for about 40 seconds - all other 
documents it opens quickly - the same is for oocalc.

Is there anything I can do to remove this delays?


Thanks for Your time.

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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Alan Ianson]

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 13:17 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> I am continuing to suffer the on-going de-volution of the once-decent
> epiphany browser under Debian Squeeze.  First they broke file
> downloading.  They still haven't fixed that.  I'll bet it's been
> six months or more.
> 
> Now I can't reply to any e-mails using the Wow basic
> webmail client.  I click on the "Reply" button, the mail compose
> screen appears for a fraction of a second, then I get this error
> screen.  The problem does not occur with iceweasel.  The problem is
> very recent.  It broke with a recent
> "aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade" sequence.  I suppose I could
> report a bug, but I'm not about to give them my password so they
> can logon as me to test it!  I'm going back to iceweasel again.
> I kept using epiphany so I would know when the file download feature
> got fixed.  Instead they broke something else.

I've noticed the same things. I've stuck with epiphany because it worked
so well for so long but there are times recently when I need to use
iceweasel. I think it's the switch from the gecko backend to webkit that
broke a lot of things that used to work well.

I keep hoping that these problems can be resolved but time will tell. I
use unstable and downloading works fine but java apps that use the
plugin still don't work.




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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Steve Kemp]

On Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 15:00:15 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:

> >  "They" probably haven't fixed it since it hasn't been reported as
> > a bug.
>
> As for the download problem, I didn't report a bug because someone else
> got there first: Debian bug report number 563056.

  Your message initially didn't have that link; so thanks for providing
 it.

  I think I over-reacted because I'm used to seeing people give
 lists of alleged problems in software, but without enough details to
 allow anybody else to confirm them, or investigate.
 Sometimes you'll get lucky and somebody else will report it; but posting
 to the users mailing list thing like:

* I use software XX but it is buggy and now I use something else

  Just feels like a random rant, not the start of a useful or productive
 discussion.  (Which is pretty much what you did.)

> As for the reply bug, I just noticed it today; and no, I haven't
> reported a bug yet.  I'm not sure I'm going to.  I already said why.

  Indeed.  Still if it affects one site it probably affects others,
 unless it is caused by a particularly malformed
 HTML/javascript/whatever that site uses behind the scenes.

  On that basis its useful to report, if only so that other users
 of that particular site can see it.

  Even without that perhaps saving the page, and associated media
 to your local machine might still trigger it. If that is the case you
 can trim down the page(s) a lot and see if you can find out what causes
 it yourself.  (Assuming you're familiar with HTML & so on.)

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Re: horrible mc colorscheme

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I just made the mistake of my life and upgraded mc from 
2:4.6.2~git20080311-4 to 3:4.7.0.1-1.


And the new color scheme is enough to cause instant blindness :-(
No kidding!

How do I get back to what I had?
Anybody?



So what happened is that starting with 4.7.0 mc supports skins.

There are 5 skins shipped with mc:

darkfar - black background
default - the old default: blue background
double-lines - like default but with double lines. Couldn't get that to work
featured - like double-lines
gotar - black backround

I found 2 skins googling:

elite_commander - unreadable with black backround
bluemoon - black background.

I found no skins anywhere with my choice for years: white background.

So it's back to the old blue default because it takes days of diddling 
to make up a skin.


Hugo


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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Stephen Powell]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 14:31:38 -0400 (EDT), Steve Kemp wrote:
>
>  "They" probably haven't fixed it since it hasn't been reported as
> a bug.

As for the download problem, I didn't report a bug because someone else
got there first: Debian bug report number 563056.  I just checked back
and it has been marked "resolved", but apparently that version has not
yet migrated to Squeeze, which is what I am running.

As for the reply bug, I just noticed it today; and no, I haven't
reported a bug yet.  I'm not sure I'm going to.  I already said why.
I'm not going to give out my password.  And unless the package maintainer
happens to have a Wow e-mail account, which is unlikely, they won't
be able to reproduce the problem.  And then some wise guy like you
will say, "Well, Mr. Powell, if we can't reproduce the problem, how
do you expect us to fix it?"  I do not hesitate to report bugs.
If you don't believe me, search the bug database for my e-mail id.

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Re: How to play 3gp audio files?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:52:10 -0700, John Magolske wrote:

> I installed the amrnb package from the multimedia repo, but it didn't
> help. 


Wow :-(


> I also installed the OpenCORE AMR libraries to /usr/local/lib as
> recommended on the Mplayer site:
> 
> MPlayer can use the OpenCORE AMR libraries through FFmpeg. Download
> the libraries for AMR-NB and AMR-WB from the opencore-amr project
> and install them according to the instructions on that page.
> http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/codec-installation.html
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/
> 
> But that didn't help. 


Ouch! :-(


> Also built ffmpeg from source as suggested here:
> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178455 and did this:
> 
> svn checkout svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg/trunk ffmpeg ./configure
> --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3 make
> make install


Mmm, those instructions seems pretty old (2006-2007), maybe something has 
changed since then.
 
> That didn't help either, keep getting "Cannot find codec 'libamr_nb' in
> libavcodec..." still searching around the www to see what I can find.

Two more hints:

1/ The error message you got was:

***
(...)
Cannot find codec for audio format 0x726D6173.
Read DOCS/HTML/en/codecs.html!
***

So follow their wise advice and take a look into that doc file. 

2/ Dunno if you already installed the mpeg/ffmpeg versions from "debian-
multimedia" repo, as Ron already pointed out. That could be another thing 
you can test.

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Re: Bash script - pass command line arg to embedded sed script with multiple args

[Teemu Likonen]

* 2010-04-17 09:34 (-0700), Michael Elkins wrote:

> You can run into that sort of problem if your pattern to replace
> contains any forward slashes (/) in it.  If you need to such an
> expansion, you probably want to do it in two passes, first doing a / to
> \/ substitution on your replacement strings, then inserting them into
> your final expression:
>
> pata=`echo $1 | sed 's,/,\/,'`
> patb=`echo $2 | sed 's,/,\/,'`
> sed -e "s/PATTERN1/$pata/" -e "s/PATTERN2/$patb/" < input > output

There are more special characters which may need escaping. The following
example may be unnecessarily verbose for a throw-away script but it
tries to address the escaping problem properly and adds some
abstraction.


#!/bin/sh

input="input"
output="output"
sub1=$1
sub2=$2

quote_basic_regexp ()   { sed -e 's,[][\^$.*],\\&,g'; }
quote_replace_string () { sed -e 's,[&\],\\&,g'; }
quote_solidus (){ sed -e 's,/,\\&,g'; }

replace_literal_string () {
local regexp=$(printf '%s\n' "$1" | quote_basic_regexp | \
quote_solidus)
local replace=$(printf '%s\n' "$2" | quote_replace_string | \
quote_solidus)
sed -e "s/$regexp/$replace/g"
}

replace_literal_string PLACEHOLDER1 "$sub1" < "$input" | \
replace_literal_string PLACEHOLDER2 "$sub2" > "$output"


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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Frank McCormick]

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On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 19:31:38 +0100
Steve Kemp  wrote:

> On Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 13:17:40 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:
> 
> > I am continuing to suffer the on-going de-volution of the
> > once-decent epiphany browser under Debian Squeeze.  First they
> > broke file downloading.  They still haven't fixed that.  I'll bet
> > it's been six months or more.
> 
>   "They" probably haven't fixed it since it hasn't been reported as
>  a bug.
> 

   Is it this one ?

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577053




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Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

[Alan Ianson]

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 06:10 +0200, Clive McBarton wrote:

> > I have confirmed one of the Smart Upgrades contained in debian-multimedia on
> > Lenny does in fact cause this Fatal Error.  I reinstalled Lenny on the same
> > machine tonight, without adding debian-multimedia to /etc/apt/sources.list,
> > and mplayer plays the .mov files just fine.
> > 
> > Wanted to share in case anyone else has this problem.
> > 
> > Mark
> > 
> 
> Adding debian-multimedia.org breaks a couple of things. Including vlc. I
> don't know why they don't fix their repository.
> 
> I'm curious if many people use debian-multimedia. Is it trustworthy?

I've also used debian-multimedia for years without any problems. That's
not to say problems don't crop up but I haven't noticed. I dunno where
to report bugs against debian-multimedia but I suspect Christian
Marrilat would like to know if there are problems.


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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Steve Kemp]

On Sat Apr 17, 2010 at 13:17:40 -0400, Stephen Powell wrote:

> I am continuing to suffer the on-going de-volution of the once-decent
> epiphany browser under Debian Squeeze.  First they broke file
> downloading.  They still haven't fixed that.  I'll bet it's been
> six months or more.

  "They" probably haven't fixed it since it hasn't been reported as
 a bug.

   Either:

* Say nothing.

* Rant in an unproductive fashion, without sufficient details to
  come to any conclusion.

* Report a bug.

  Anything else is a waste of your time, and ours.  (e.g. "File
 downloads are broken"?  Not for me.  But with so few details
 people will either ignore you, suspect you're trolling, or blame it
 on user-error.)

  Happily it seems that you're content using Iceweasel, so pragmatically
 you should continue to do that...

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Re: How to play 3gp audio files?

[John Magolske]

> > looking for a way to play *.3gp audio files from the command
> > line. Mplayer doesn't seem to work:
> 
> Mmmm, it seems you are missing a codec (AMR). In debian multimedia
> repo there is one package that provides that codec:
> 
> floating-point Adaptive Multi-Rate (AMR) speech codec
> http://debian-multimedia.org/dists/stable/main/binary-i386/package/amrnb.php

I installed the amrnb package from the multimedia repo, but it didn't
help. I also installed the OpenCORE AMR libraries to /usr/local/lib as
recommended on the Mplayer site:

MPlayer can use the OpenCORE AMR libraries through FFmpeg.
Download the libraries for AMR-NB and AMR-WB from the
opencore-amr project and install them according to the
instructions on that page.
http://www.mplayerhq.hu/DOCS/HTML/en/codec-installation.html
http://sourceforge.net/projects/opencore-amr/

But that didn't help. Also built ffmpeg from source as suggested here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=178455
and did this:

svn checkout svn://svn.mplayerhq.hu/ffmpeg/trunk ffmpeg
./configure --enable-libopencore-amrnb --enable-version3
make
make install

That didn't help either, keep getting "Cannot find codec 'libamr_nb' in
libavcodec..." still searching around the www to see what I can find.

John


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Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Aioanei Rares]

You might wanna take a look at Midori, which is also webkit-based. So 
far, I tend to like it.



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Re: Bash script - pass command line arg to embedded sed script with multiple args

[Chris Davies]

Daniel D Jones  wrote:
> What I want to do is call a bash script with a couple of arguments, and,
> within the script, call sed to use those args to replace two
> placeholders in a file:

> bashscript SUB1 SUB2

> This line inside bashscript doesn't work:
> sed -e 's/PLACEHOLDER1/$1/' -e 's/PLACEHOLDER2/$2/' < input > output

Single quotes tells the shell to use the contents verbatim. Double quotes
allows the shell to interpolate variables. Note that sed does not get
to see the quotes at all (see below).

> It doesn't work because the command line args ($1, $2) are quoted and don't 
> get replaced.

Yes...


> However, because I'm using the -e argument to sed, I have to 
> quote the argument or sed gets all huffy.

This is a red herring. The -e argument allows you to introduce multiple
operations. Omit it and you get just a single shot (as you
demonstrate). Sed doesn't see the quotation marks at all, so you're
slightly on the wrong track with your reasoning.


> The only workaround I've found is to do the substitutions in two passes:

> sed s/SUB1/$1/ < input > temp 
> sed s/SUB2/$2/ < temp > output

Which is almost exactly the same as this:

sed "s/SUB1/$1/" < input > temp 
sed "s/SUB2/$2/" < temp > output

*except* that in my case the $1 and $2 can contain whitespace, but in
yours they can't. (In neither case can they contain "/".)


> Since I'm not using multiple argument to sed, I don't have to quote
> the arg.

As explained above, this is incorrect.


> I suppose I could pipe one sed command to another rather than using
> a temp file but that's not significantly more palatable.

Given the knowledge constraints under which you're working, I'm curious
to understand why you prefer a temporary file to a pipe.


> Any ideas on a cleaner approach on how to do this, either by getting this 
> right or using an alternative method, are welcome [...]

sed -e "s/PLACEHOLDER1/$1/" -e "s/PLACEHOLDER2/$2/" output

perl -pe 'BEGIN {($a,$b)=splice(@ARGV,0,2)} 
s/PLACEHOLDER1/$a/;s/PLACEHOLDER2/$b/' "$1" "$2" output

The potential advantage of the perl version is that the variable can
contain not only whitespace but also "/" characters. I don't know if
this is an issue.

Chris


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Re: Trunk version of linux-image ISSUE

[Ben Hutchings]

On Sat, 2010-04-17 at 08:37 -0500, JW Foster wrote:
> I', sent this previously but so far no reply. Can anyone tell me how to
> get rid of this issue. I did an update & the trunk version of
> linux-image was installed as the upgraded version. A few weeks later I
> tried to install the newer regular version & after a few attempts it
> finally installed & grub configured it. However it is not properly
> configured according to the installer as it keeps trying to configure
> the non-trunk version every time I do an update. Now I've been able to
> select the non-trunk version & have my system running it, even though
> it's not properly configured. I tried to then remove the trunk ver. &
> this is the error message I get.
[...]

This looks like a bug in extlinux, as the failing script belongs to it.
Please run 'reportbug extlinux'.

For future reference, the primary list for kernel-related questions is
normally debian-ker...@lists.debian.org.

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Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Stephen Powell]

I am continuing to suffer the on-going de-volution of the once-decent
epiphany browser under Debian Squeeze.  First they broke file
downloading.  They still haven't fixed that.  I'll bet it's been
six months or more.

Now I can't reply to any e-mails using the Wow basic
webmail client.  I click on the "Reply" button, the mail compose
screen appears for a fraction of a second, then I get this error
screen.  The problem does not occur with iceweasel.  The problem is
very recent.  It broke with a recent
"aptitude update;aptitude full-upgrade" sequence.  I suppose I could
report a bug, but I'm not about to give them my password so they
can logon as me to test it!  I'm going back to iceweasel again.
I kept using epiphany so I would know when the file download feature
got fixed.  Instead they broke something else.

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reply to bug

[IAN DELANEY]

ok, no sooner had I completed sending a reply to the reply, I got the reply 
email for the bug.

So I now know how to use reportbug abd how to manouever it and use it.
Thus seems to confirm that the other two I attempted to submit yesterday got 
lost,
which could then be a bug with reportbug.  I'll have to reboot into the other 
lenny to check the version.
(I have two, actually three instances of lenny)
That said, I may as well go about re-submitting the one from yesterday.
  
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Re: reportug

[d . sastre . medina]

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:25:42AM -0500, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> In , IAN DELANEY wrote:
> >oh, i may have just figured it out.  It's using vim.  Must be different
> > version perhaps.  Once entered the data, I couldn't see how to save and
> > exit.  I'm used to nano. The other instance uses nano as a text editor to
> > enter the description.'   No matter, let's persevere since I've started.
> 
> Setting EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano in your environment will make most Debian 
> utilities use it instead of /usr/bin/sensible-editor.

Hello,

# update-alternatives --config editor

would have done the trick, too.

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Re: Trunk version of linux-image ISSUE

[Stephen Powell]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 09:37:30 -0400 (EDT), JW Foster wrote:
> Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux
> 2.6.32-trunk-686 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-trunk-686
> run-parts: /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux exited with return code 1

Normally, when a script in /etc/kernel/*/ fails, and the
script name matches a package name (extlinux in this case), the
script was installed by that package.  Since you're using grub as
your bootloader, and since extlinux was designed for use with
the syslinux boot loader, I'm not sure why you have it installed in
the first place.  That could be your problem.

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Re: Bash script - pass command line arg to embedded sed script with multiple args

[Michael Elkins]

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 12:02:40PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:

That was the first thing I tried and sed gave me an error:

sed: -e expression #1, char 18: unknown option to `s'

I just went back and tried it again and it worked, so I have no idea what I
did the first time that made it not work.


You can run into that sort of problem if your pattern to replace contains any 
forward slashes (/) in it.  If you need to such an expansion, you probably 
want to do it in two passes, first doing a / to \/ substitution on your 
replacement strings, then inserting them into your final expression:


pata=`echo $1 | sed 's,/,\/,'`
patb=`echo $2 | sed 's,/,\/,'`
sed -e "s/PATTERN1/$pata/" -e "s/PATTERN2/$patb/" < input > output

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Re: Bash script - pass command line arg to embedded sed script with multiple args

[Daniel D Jones]

On Saturday 17 April 2010 00:09:28 Michael Elkins wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 08:15:38PM -0400, Daniel D Jones wrote:
> >What I'm trying to do is pretty simple.  Getting it to work is turning out
> > not to be.  What I want to do is call a bash script with a couple of
> > arguments, and, within the script, call sed to use those args to replace
> > two placeholders in a file:
> >
> >bashscript SUB1 SUB2
> >
> >This line inside bashscript doesn't work:
> >
> >sed -e 's/PLACEHOLDER1/$1/' -e 's/PLACEHOLDER2/$2/' < input > output
> 
> If you switch the single quotes to double quotes it will work as you
>  expect. Variables inside of double quotes are expanded.  Single quotes are
>  for literal strings, as you've discovered.

That was the first thing I tried and sed gave me an error:

sed: -e expression #1, char 18: unknown option to `s'

I just went back and tried it again and it worked, so I have no idea what I 
did the first time that made it not work.

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Re: How to migrate my localhost php site to my ISP - Was: willing to learn php basics

[Joe]

On 17/04/10 10:15, Bernard wrote:



Thanks for your help Monique. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes
sense that the ISP only allows one user to log into databases. Problem
is that outside users will have to connect to my database through a php
script that will contain my password !


That is normal. If your users can enter data, then the script must have 
at least some write privileges on the database.


In the real world, you deal with the security aspect by placing the 
password (and database and user names) in a second php script outside 
the web server's document root, so that no web request can return it. 
Apache will normally be configured not to allow download of scripts, 
even when a user knows the right filename, but placing the script 
outside the directory tree which apache can reach adds to security. You 
'require' this mini-script in the main php script, which must of course 
be placed within the web document tree. While apache cannot reach 
outside its docroot, php/perl/etc. can, though with the same permissions 
that apache runs under.


In order to achieve this, you need write access to that directory tree 
above apache's docroot, with the ability to set permissions correctly. 
From what you say, it does not seem that you have that with your 
current ISP. You would seem to need to spend some money, even before you 
are sure you will have the access you need.


>By the way, just in case I would decide to subscribe to pair.com, 
>would you know if it is possible to subscribe for a short time, 3 
>months for instance ? I know of an ISP in Switzerland that is quite a 
>bit cheaper, but then you have to subscribe for at least two years (80 
>Euros for the first year, 120 Euros for each following year)


1&1 appears to offer a 60-day guarantee which may meet your needs:

"The 1&1 60-Day Money Back Guarantee applies to the Instant Mail and 
Beginner packages as well as all shared hosting, Virtual Server and 
eShop packages. You will receive a full refund of the fees if you are 
not completely satisfied within 60 days' of the activation of your 
package. Guarantee starts on the date of initial registration of the 
contract number.


"There is no refund for packages ordered with the software bundle, 
software shipping and handling fees, domain name registration fees, or 
any unused bandwidth. 1&1 considers that customers upgrading from an 
existing package have already experienced the 60-Day Money Back 
Guarantee. In addition, each customer can only use the Money Back 
Guarantee once, and for only one contract number per account."


In practice, you'll need to pay a small amount for shipping of 
documentation and to register at least one domain name, so you wouldn't 
get much back out of two months' payment, but you wouldn't be tied into 
a long contract.


I'm on the Business Pro package, at GBP 15 per month, most of which I 
can charge on to customers. There's a Business at GBP 9 per month, about 
the same as your Swiss one, which offers two 100MB MySQL databases plus 
perl and PHP. It doesn't have ssh access to the server, but I've very 
rarely used that. It also doesn't have cron scripts, but I've never used 
them. If you need something timed, you can write it into a script and 
call it as a web page on a timed basis from outside.


As I recall, you don't need ssh access to install phpmyadmin, it's just 
another web script. You FTP the files to a suitable directory. You need 
to give phpmyadmin the local address and port number of the MySQL 
server. Certainly, you are free to create users at various privilege 
levels, you have full control of the databases. You can then logon to 
phpmyadmin using any of the MySQL user credentials, though normally you 
will be doing administration and you will use the root logon.


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Re: Vpn seems to be connected but not being used -SOLVED

[Anthony Campbell]

On 17 Apr 2010, Anthony Campbell wrote:
 
Sorry, forgot to say SOLVED in previous post - please see that for the
solution.

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Re: Trunk version of linux-image ISSUE

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 10:22:07 -0500
"Boyd Stephen Smith Jr."  wrote:

Hello Boyd,

> If they are from a Debian package, it might be appropriate to file a
> bug against that package.

There's already one filed;

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=573962

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Re: Vpn seems to be connected but not being used

[Anthony Campbell]

On 15 Apr 2010, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> Starting a new thread: I seem to have got connected to a vpn server
> after reading the Debian Howto but I don't know what to do next. Here is
> the output of ifconfig -a, which seems to show that ppp0 is running. But
> I'm not connecting via it.
> 
> 
[snip] 

Well, after 3 days' work I finally got it running. I'll write it all up
in detail on my website but the essential steps were as follows.

1. delete the default gateway (ip route del default).
2. make a new gateway (route add default gw 

Quite simple, but there were some traps.

a. the  I had to use was not the one given to me for Windows
and the Mac, but rather the one that shows up with "ip route show" i.e.
the one that is next to dev ppp0.

b. the browser (firefox) needs to be running before doing the above,
otherwise it doesn't find anything.

c. to start the connection to the server, "pon  must be
done as root even if you are in the dip group.

I'm sure lots of other people would have had no difficulty with this,
but I thought it was worth reporting it for the benefit of anyone who
knows as little about route stuff as I do.

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Re: Trunk version of linux-image ISSUE

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 08:37:30 -0500, JW Foster wrote:
> I', sent this previously but so far no reply. Can anyone tell me how to
> get rid of this issue. I did an update & the trunk version of
> linux-image was installed as the upgraded version. A few weeks later I
> tried to install the newer regular version & after a few attempts it
> finally installed & grub configured it. However it is not properly
> configured according to the installer as it keeps trying to configure
> the non-trunk version every time I do an update. Now I've been able to
> select the non-trunk version & have my system running it, even though
> it's not properly configured. I tried to then remove the trunk ver. &
> this is the error message I get.
> -
> (Reading database ... 431717 files and directories currently installed.)
> Removing linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686 ...
> Running postrm hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub.
> Generating grub.cfg ...
> Found background image: moreblue-orbit-grub.png
> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
> File descriptor 11 (pipe:[29311]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
> 15623: /bin/sh
> File descriptor 12 (pipe:[29311]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
> 15623: /bin/sh

That looks like http://bugs.debian.org/549976, which seems be harmless.

>   No volume groups found
> Found Debian GNU/Linux (5.0.1) on /dev/hdb1
> Found Debian GNU/Linux (4.0) on /dev/hdc1
> done
> Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
> run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux 2.6.32-trunk-686 
> /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-trunk-686
> run-parts: /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux exited with return code 1
> Failed to process /etc/kernel/postrm.d at 
> /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686.postrm line 265.
> dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686 (--purge):
> subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
> Errors were encountered while processing:
> linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686

Which version of package extlinux do you have installed? This looks like
http://bugs.debian.org/574071, which was fixed in version 2:3.85+dfsg-2.

If your package manager is jammed by this problem then you can try to
download the .deb for the newest version of extlinux from
http://packages.debian.org/extlinux and then install it directly with
"dpkg -i".

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Re: reportug

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In , IAN DELANEY wrote:
>oh, i may have just figured it out.  It's using vim.  Must be different
> version perhaps.  Once entered the data, I couldn't see how to save and
> exit.  I'm used to nano. The other instance uses nano as a text editor to
> enter the description.'   No matter, let's persevere since I've started.

Setting EDITOR=/usr/bin/nano in your environment will make most Debian 
utilities use it instead of /usr/bin/sensible-editor.

>The bug report:

That's a decent report, but bug reports don't go to debian-u...@l.d.o.  They 
go to sub...@b.d.o.
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Re: Dual channel memory question

[Stan Hoeppner]

Lisi put forth on 4/17/2010 10:04 AM:

> Would I be correct in taking this to mean  that the memory modules appear to 
> be incorrectly installed, and that I could improve my memory performance by 
> moving one of the modules that dual channel functions?  And also, if that 

No, they are currently properly installed for dual channel operation.

> does not give me enough improvement (which it almost certainly won't), I 
> could add another module in the third channel, which would not necessarily 
> need to be the same size as the other two?

There is no 3rd channel.  There are 3 DIMM slots, but slots 2 and 3 are part
of the same channel.  The nForce2 northbridge chip for some odd reason was
designed to support 1 DIMM on channel 0 and 2 DIMMs on channel 1.

As long as you have a DIMM installed in slot 1 and a DIMM installed in
either or both of slots 2 and 3, you are running in dual channel mode.

# of DIMM slots does not equal # of memory bus channels.  As an example, the
Compaq Proliant 5000 quad Pentium Pro server had 16 DIMM slots but only a
single memory "channel".  Back then they called it a "bus", which is the
proper electrical engineering term.  "Channel" didn't come along until much
later when vendors started installing multiple memory buses.  I guess the
marketing folks thought "channel" sounded better than "bus".

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Re: Trunk version of linux-image ISSUE

[Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.]

In <1271511450.21791.6.ca...@brutus>, JW Foster wrote:
>I', sent this previously but so far no reply. Can anyone tell me how to
>get rid of this issue. I did an update & the trunk version of
>linux-image was installed as the upgraded version. A few weeks later I
>tried to install the newer regular version & after a few attempts it
>finally installed & grub configured it. However it is not properly
>configured according to the installer as it keeps trying to configure
>the non-trunk version every time I do an update. Now I've been able to
>select the non-trunk version & have my system running it, even though
>it's not properly configured. I tried to then remove the trunk ver. &
>this is the error message I get.
[...]
>Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
>run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux
>2.6.32-trunk-686 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-trunk-686
>run-parts: /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux exited with return code 1
[...]
>A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
[...]
>Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
>run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/extlinux
>2.6.32-3-686 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
>run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/extlinux exited with return code 1
[...]

I don't have any /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux or 
/etc/kernel/postinst.d/extlinux, so I don't know what they do, but yours are 
evidently broken.

If they are scripts you wrote, fix them.

If they are from a Debian package, it might be appropriate to file a bug 
against that package.
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Re: Fwd: How to recover boot floppy in Lenny

[Camaleón]

2010/4/17 Mauricio Contreras:

> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> First you have to do is *to know* what hard disk is being booted in 
first
>> place by the BIOS ("IDE 80" -windows- or "SATA 500" -lenny-). After 
that,
>> put here the results of your findings and we will see what could be the
>> better setup for installing GRUB :-)

> I'm enclosing results from fdisk -l and the current grub setup from 
menu.lst

(...)


> THIS COMES FROM /boot/grub/menu.lst. It doesn't boot linux!

(...)

> Right now the system boots Windows XP directly.


O.k. So now you are *not getting* the GRUB menu, right?

By reading the data you provided, I'd say your BIOS is setup to boot at 
first the disk that holds windows OS and so windows loads "directly".

If that is true, I will make you some suggestions/ways to solve/bypass 
this. 

(Disclaimer: all of these options are "risky" -as so is any action that 
involve the bootloader- so please, if in doubt, *ask someone in the know* 
to make the job and before taking any step keep your "invaluable" data in 
a safe place)

1/ Install GRUB into the MBR of the first disk.

Caution! this will cause the current bootloader of the disk (that is, 
windows bootloader) will be *lost* and GRUB will take control of the 
booting process... it should be no problem but when windows comes into 
play, one never knows.


2/ Create a new partition into the hard disk holding windows OS to 
install GRUB there. Then, you can mark that partition with the "bootable 
flag". In theory, this will pass the boot control to GRUB and you could 
boot any OS from there.


3/ Change the BIOS order of the hard disk booting devices.

Caution! This can mess a bit the current setup of your debian lenny 
install, I am not sure what will be the results.

By selecting as hard disk "first boot device" the disk where you have 
installed Debian lenny, this will make you boot directly into Debian. 
Then you can:

a) Install GRUB into the hard disk MBR
b) Install GRUB into the first sector of a partition

(note: probably you already have GRUB installed somewhere in the hard 
drive)


And... I think I have no more advices to handle this situation, if 
someone wants to add another one, I'm sure the OP will thank any idea O:-)

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Re: Dual channel memory question

[Lisi]

On Saturday 17 April 2010 05:35:45 Nick Boyce wrote:
> On 17/04/2010 01:03, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> > Camaleón put forth on 4/16/2010 8:31 AM:
> >> It can be worst, though. There are manufacturers that paint all the RAM
> >> slots in black or using the same color and so forcing us to read the
> >> manual >:-)
> >
> > The manufacturers have bastardized the color coding to the point it's
> > useless; thus reading the manual is the only safe bet to get dual channel
> > operation setup correctly.
>
> Um ... just my 2p: [score -1, redundant]
>
> My current rig - Abit NF7-S V2 mobo (Nforce 2 chipset) and Athlon XP CPU
> - has 3 DIMM slots all the same fetching shade of blue.  I initially
> added two 256Mb sticks in slots 1 & 2, and got dual channel operation
> (the BIOS reports it at boot time : "Dual Channel Operation Enabled").
> When I subsequently added another 512Mb stick in slot 3 this did not
> apparently affect dual channel operation (the message still appears).
> Maybe I get dual channel for the first 512Mb, but only single channel
> for the second 512Mb.

I too have an  Abit NF7 (tho' not an -S).  The memory was installed by the 
shop where I bought the components of my computer.  (I was intending to build 
it myself and he didn't trust me with the CPU or memory!!)  He told me taht I 
had dual channel memory installed, and would need to replace both 256 Mb 
sticks if I increased the memory capacity.

I have never seen any sign of dual channel operation. (Tho' I didn't know what 
to look for, which hardly helped!)

dmidecode gives:

Memory Device
   [snip]
Size: 256 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: A0
Bank Locator: Bank0/1
[snip]

Memory Device
[snip]
Size: No Module Installed
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: A1
Bank Locator: Bank2/3
[snip]

Memory Device
[snip]
Size: 256 MB
Form Factor: DIMM
Set: None
Locator: A2
Bank Locator: Bank4/5

Would I be correct in taking this to mean  that the memory modules appear to 
be incorrectly installed, and that I could improve my memory performance by 
moving one of the modules that dual channel functions?  And also, if that 
does not give me enough improvement (which it almost certainly won't), I 
could add another module in the third channel, which would not necessarily 
need to be the same size as the other two?

TIA
Lisi


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[Solved] C programming question

[Stephen Powell]

Thanks to all who contributed to this thread, especially to Boyd.

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Fwd: How to recover boot floppy in Lenny

[Mauricio Contreras]

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From: Mauricio Contreras 
Date: Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:25 AM
Subject: Re: How to recover boot floppy in Lenny
To: Camaleón 


On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 11:44 AM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Fri, 16 Apr 2010 10:48:10 -0300, Mauricio Contreras wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Apr 16, 2010 at 8:04 AM, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>> You mean there is no sound "after" you login?
>>>
>>> I fail to see any relation with that fact (no sound) and the bootloader
>>> being located in a floppy disk or SuperGrubDisk so I would investigate
>>> first why the sound stopped from working.
>
> (...)
>
>> I recovered sound in Lenny after booting with SuperGrub and running
>> alsaconf as root. I picked up my old SoundBlaster Live card and the
>> emu10k1 module with alsaconf and set it up as the main sound card
>> (there's also an integrated AC'97 in the motherboard) card with index=0.
>> Then sound came back.
>
> Ah, that makes more sense to me :-)
>
> (...)
>
>> My disks are set up as follows:
>>
>> IDE 80 GB hda: 2 partitions
>> hd0, 40 GB --- windows xp boot;
>> hd1, 40 GB --- windows xp data files
>
>> SATA 80 GB sda 1 partition
>> sda 80 GB -- windows data files
>
>> SATA 500 GB
>> sdb 1 partition sdb (??) 500 GB ---lenny
>>
>> I haven't been able to configure Grub 0.94 to boot in this setup so I
>> have used SuperGrub or a bootable floppy with Lenny. Could you point me
>> to an appropiate grub setup?
>
> Well, it seems you have 3 physical hard disks, with windows installed in
> the first partition of the IDE hdd and Lenny in the second SATA (500 GiB).
>
> First you have to do is *to know* what hard disk is being booted in first
> place by the BIOS ("IDE 80" -windows- or "SATA 500" -lenny-). After that,
> put here the results of your findings and we will see what could be the
> better setup for installing GRUB :-)
>
> Greetings,
>
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I'm enclosing results from fdisk -l and the current grub setup from menu.lst

debian:/home/mferminco# /sbin/fdisk -l

Disco /dev/hda: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xeba8eba8

Disposit. Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
/dev/hda1   *           1        9964    80035798+   7  HPFS/NTFS

Disco /dev/sda: 82.3 GB, 82348277760 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 10011 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x353e353d

Disposit. Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
/dev/sda1   *           1        3636    29206138+   7  HPFS/NTFS
/dev/sda2            3637       10011    51207187+   f  W95 Ext'd (LBA)
/dev/sda5            3637       10011    51207156    7  HPFS/NTFS

Disco /dev/sdb: 500.1 GB, 500107862016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 60801 cylinders
Units = cilindros of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x869150ed

Disposit. Inicio    Comienzo      Fin      Bloques  Id  Sistema
/dev/sdb1   *           1       60471   485733276   83  Linux
/dev/sdb2           60472       60801     2650725    5  Extendida
/dev/sdb5           60472       60801     2650693+  82  Linux swap / Solaris

THIS COMES FROM /boot/grub/menu.lst. It doesn't boot linux!

title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686
root            (hd2,0)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/sdb1 ro quiet
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686

title           Debian GNU/Linux, kernel 2.6.26-2-686 (single-user mode)
root            (hd2,0)
kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.26-2-686 root=/dev/sdb1 ro single
initrd          /boot/initrd.img-2.6.26-2-686

### END DEBIAN AUTOMAGIC KERNELS LIST

# This is a divider, added to separate the menu items below from the Debian
# ones.
title           Other operating systems:
root


# This entry automatically added by the Debian installer for a non-linux OS
# on /dev/sda1
title           Microsoft Windows XP Professional
root            (hd1,0)
savedefault
map             (hd0) (hd1)
map             (hd1) (hd0)
chainloader     +1

Right now the system boots Windows XP directly.

Mauricio Contreras
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Re: xen

[Andrew Reid]

On Friday 16 April 2010 22:53:48 Mike Viau wrote:
> Sat, 17 Apr 2010 01:55:32 +0800  wrote:

> Hello there,  Ny name is Ian, from Perth Australia.
> I have a question to be answered please.  I'm a linux user, so I use suse,
> debian, ubuntu and gentoo, and fedora.I'm interested in exploring the
> capabilities of xen and have done so an all the above.I'm in a brand new
> instance of squeeze and have just perused the packages in synaptic for the
> first time.I have recently used karmic lenny including a xen live cd which
> uses lenny as a dom host.This has lead to submitting bug reports because
> the collection of packages that are used to support virt-manager and xen
> are extensive and quite problem ridden.  I am now to try the latest
> packages provided by squeeze. I can't help but notice  THERE IS NO XEN
> KERNEL.

  I just did a search on packages.debian.org for "xen", and came up 
with these:

>http://packages.debian.org/sid/xen-hypervisor-3.4-amd64
>http://packages.debian.org/sid/linux-image-2.6.32-4-xen-amd64

  This appears to be the Xen hypervisor and a Dom0-enabled
kernel.

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Re: reportug

[Aioanei Rares]

Since you figured out how to finalize the bug report, why don't you just 
report ?



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Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

[Alexander Samad]

Hi


just picked up a 51645 adaptec - having some problems with the gui can't
login and if I try and boot of the adaptec lun it crashed grub - magic
failed.

A

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 11:26 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:57:51 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>
> > Camaleón put forth on 4/17/2010 3:12 AM:
> >> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote:
> >>
> >>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> >>
>  What PCIe RAID card are you using?
> >>> Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside a supermicro server.
> >
> > Which Apaptec model, specifically?  Some of the Adaptec SATA cards are
> > fakeraid.  I want to know if your card is fakeraid or real RAID.  That
> > may have bearing on this issue.
>
> Being a Supermicro server, I doubt it's a "fakeraid" card O:-)
>
> OTOH, a fakeraid won't see a big disk of 4 TiB, it would detect/treat
> each drive separately.
>
> >> I wish you the best (similar setup here and bad experience with adaptec
> >> raid cards) :-(
> >>
> >> As per the 4 TiB issue. I just have reviewed the wikipedia article
> >> about MBR and forgot the limit of 2 TiB for a "bootable" partition.
> >
> > I've never run into these issues because I intentionally avoid them.  I
> > always create a small /boot of about 100MB at the start of the disk and
> > stick the bootloader in the MBR.  Every BIOS can handle bootstrapping
> > such a setup.
>
> Yes, that tends to be the better approach. Either "ext2" or "ext3" are
> the recommended filesystems for GRUB.
>
> > I thought the OP originally said he has a separate small /boot, so I'm
> > still not sure what his exact issue is.  Thus what I'm trying to nail
> > down exactly which Adaptec HBA he's got.
>
> Ah, you're right. Then that shouldn't be the problem.
>
> I would try, at first place, to make the required partitions from a
> Gparted LiveCD (System Rescue or similar) before installing the system to
> see if that helps the installer.
>
> Greetings,
>
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>
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reportug

[IAN DELANEY]

Hello, me again.  I got impatient and wanted to file more bugs.

The topic is either how do you use reportbug, or I have a bug about reportbug.  
It's version 3.8. The following data will detail my system.

I'm trying to install a vm in lenny, and it's a very futile task.  I just get 
bugs.
I invoked reportbug, got to the second last section, to supply a full 
description of the bug.
How do you use bugreport at this point?

Now I have two distiinct instances of lenny. one  32 bit, the other a 64 bit.  
I'm in the 32 bit version which is used in the live xen cd.
I've installed reportbug, and tried using it a couple of times.  I get to this 
point,

Subject: virtinst: description  mmm gg
Package: virtinst
Version: 0.400.0-7
Severity: serious
Justification: 2

*** Please type your report below this line ***


oh, i may have just figured it out.  It's using vim.  Must be different version 
perhaps.  Once entered the data, I couldn't see how to save and exit.  I'm used 
to nano.
The other instance uses nano as a text editor to enter the description.'   No 
matter, let's persevere since I've started.

The bug report:

live...@xenalive:~$ reportbug

Detected character set: UTF-8
Please change your locale if this is incorrect.

Using 'IAN DELANEY ' as your from address.
Getting status for virtinst...
Checking for newer versions at packages.debian.org...
Will send report to Debian (per lsb_release).


Maintainer for virtinst is 'Debian Libvirt Maintainers 
'.
Looking up dependencies of virtinst...

Subject: virtinst or libvirt loses contact with console during installation
Package: virtinst
Version: 0.400.0-7
Severity: serious
Justification: 1

*** Please type your report below this line ***
 This may be important, you decide.  To me, it stops the use of the package in 
any way in its tracks.

ok, the fiasco of installing in lenny continues.
Boot into xen, take a system such as hardy or karmic on cd or dvd, put it in 
the drive, invole virt-manager, invoke new vm bringing virtinst into play, use 
the provided wizzard screens and setup install of a new vm using the cd drive, 
begin an install of the new vm.

The problem WAS bug number 519809.  We've progressed from there, bringing in 
the backport versions of libvirt0 and libvirt-bin, version 0.7.6-1~bp.  Citing 
a late entry of that bug,

"can confirm - I backported libvirt 0.6.1-1 from squeeze to lenny.
The VNC console immediately works with virt-manager 0.6.0-6 after
passing the wizard for creating a new guest."

Well the reporter stopped at that point.
Continuing the install we find a separate new bug.
Initially, the install produces an effective vnc console.
Half way through the install, the vnc console faults, producing the error 
message along the lines,

TCP/IP error: Console lost contact or got disconnected from the console.

Selecting the Hardware tab of the console, the selection
Serial 0
initially reported Source path:/dev/pts0 (or 2)
Some how the packages changed their mind about what to allocate the console to 
under /dev.
Once faulted, it reads
Serial 0: Source path:/dev/pts/1,
a non existant char file!  So this is the cause of the bug.
The developer's place to fix it.

In addition, as an attempt to salvage the install, I got the vm to be saved, 
hoping to restore it from the point on reboot.  The save began to take place, 
then hangs, preventing the vm to be shutdown or paused, becomes frozen.  A 
reboot is required to acess the vm again.
Rationale, if a save can be made, at may be able to be restored on an existing 
/dev/pts/ file, and the install of the vm may perhaps then be completed.

My take on this, seeing the content of the bug number 519809, libvirt had to be 
fixed to get past this point.  The problem may again be libvirt, however, the 
nature of the problem is a missing char device file.  On beginning the install, 
the packages concerned call upon an existing /dev/pts file, then switch to a 
new one which need be created.  This suggests kernel involvement, or some 
feature that invokes udev to dynamically create a file with makedev or mknod.

I hope to see a reply to the bug in due course


-- System Information:
Debian Release: 5.0
  APT prefers stable
  APT policy: (500, 'stable')
Architecture: i386 (i686)

Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-1-xen-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)
Locale: LANG=en_US.UTF-8, LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8 (charmap=UTF-8)
Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/bash

Versions of packages virtinst depends on:
ii  python 2.5.2-3   An interactive high-level object-o
ii  python-libvirt 0.4.6-10  libvirt Python bindings
ii  python-libxml2 2.6.32.dfsg-5 Python bindings for the GNOME XML 
ii  python-support 0.8.4 automated rebuilding support for P
ii  python-urlgrabber  3.1.0-4   A high-level cross-protocol url-gr

Versions of packages virtinst recommends:
pn  qemu   (no description available)
ii  virt-viewer   0.0.3-2Disp

Trunk version of linux-image ISSUE

[JW Foster]

I', sent this previously but so far no reply. Can anyone tell me how to
get rid of this issue. I did an update & the trunk version of
linux-image was installed as the upgraded version. A few weeks later I
tried to install the newer regular version & after a few attempts it
finally installed & grub configured it. However it is not properly
configured according to the installer as it keeps trying to configure
the non-trunk version every time I do an update. Now I've been able to
select the non-trunk version & have my system running it, even though
it's not properly configured. I tried to then remove the trunk ver. &
this is the error message I get.
-
(Reading database ... 431717 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686 ...
Running postrm hook script /usr/sbin/update-grub.
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found background image: moreblue-orbit-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
File descriptor 11 (pipe:[29311]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
15623: /bin/sh
File descriptor 12 (pipe:[29311]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
15623: /bin/sh
  No volume groups found
Found Debian GNU/Linux (5.0.1) on /dev/hdb1
Found Debian GNU/Linux (4.0) on /dev/hdc1
done
Examining /etc/kernel/postrm.d .
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux
2.6.32-trunk-686 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-trunk-686
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postrm.d/extlinux exited with return code 1
Failed to process /etc/kernel/postrm.d
at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686.postrm line 265.
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686 (--purge):
subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 2
Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-2.6.32-trunk-686
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:
Setting up linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 (2.6.32-9) ...
Running depmod.
Running update-initramfs.
update-initramfs: Generating /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-2.fw for module
r8169
W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl8168d-1.fw for module
r8169
initrd.img(/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
) points to /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
(/boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686) -- doing nothing
at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-3-686.postinst line 400.
vmlinuz(/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
) points to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
(/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686) -- doing nothing
at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-3-686.postinst line 400.
Running update-grub.
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found background image: moreblue-orbit-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
File descriptor 5 (pipe:[16719]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 6 (pipe:[16719]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 7 (/dev/ptmx) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 9 (pipe:[16659]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 10 (pipe:[16659]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 16 (pipe:[30124]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 17 (pipe:[30124]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 23 (/root/.synaptic/selections.proceed) leaked on lvs
invocation. Parent PID 21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 26 (/tmp/vteSQ5EBV (deleted)) leaked on lvs invocation.
Parent PID 21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 28 (/tmp/vte3T5EBV (deleted)) leaked on lvs invocation.
Parent PID 21163: /bin/sh
File descriptor 29 (pipe:[29090]) leaked on lvs invocation. Parent PID
21163: /bin/sh
  No volume groups found
Found Debian GNU/Linux (5.0.1) on /dev/hdb1
Found Debian GNU/Linux (4.0) on /dev/hdc1
done
Examining /etc/kernel/postinst.d.
run-parts: executing /etc/kernel/postinst.d/extlinux
2.6.32-3-686 /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
run-parts: /etc/kernel/postinst.d/extlinux exited with return code 1
Failed to process /etc/kernel/postinst.d
at /var/lib/dpkg/info/linux-image-2.6.32-3-686.postinst line 868.
dpkg: error processing linux-image-2.6.32-3-686 (--configure):
subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status
9
Errors were encountered while processing:
linux-image-2.6.32-3-686

--

Can anyone please shed some light on this.
Thanks
John Foster


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Re: /etc/bash_completion ?

[Aioanei Rares]

On 04/17/2010 03:57 PM, Liam O'Toole wrote:

On 2010-04-17, Aioanei Rares  wrote:
   

Howdy,

Following this link (
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_bash_completion_part_1
) and if I type at the terminal '. /etc/bash_completion' everything
works top-notch. However, if I put the above command in the global
.profile or in my user's profile, after typing my user/pass in gdm, I
get errors. If I put '. /etc/bash_completion' in ~/.profile, I get the
'your session lasted less than 10 seconds' and the reason is 'cannot
open /etc/bash_completion' . If I put the command in /etc/profile, I get
some errors about mismatched parantheses. Am I doing something wrong?
It's annoying to type '. /etc/bash_profile' everytime. Thanks in advance.

Yours,


 

I have the following stanza in my ~/.bashrc file:

if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
. /etc/bash_completion
fi

It is already in the default .bashrc file (see /etc/skel/.bashrc); you
just need to uncomment it.

   

Thanks, Liam.


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Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:57:51 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

> Camaleón put forth on 4/17/2010 3:12 AM:
>> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> 
 What PCIe RAID card are you using?
>>> Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside a supermicro server.
> 
> Which Apaptec model, specifically?  Some of the Adaptec SATA cards are
> fakeraid.  I want to know if your card is fakeraid or real RAID.  That
> may have bearing on this issue.

Being a Supermicro server, I doubt it's a "fakeraid" card O:-)

OTOH, a fakeraid won't see a big disk of 4 TiB, it would detect/treat 
each drive separately.
 
>> I wish you the best (similar setup here and bad experience with adaptec
>> raid cards) :-(
>> 
>> As per the 4 TiB issue. I just have reviewed the wikipedia article
>> about MBR and forgot the limit of 2 TiB for a "bootable" partition.
> 
> I've never run into these issues because I intentionally avoid them.  I
> always create a small /boot of about 100MB at the start of the disk and
> stick the bootloader in the MBR.  Every BIOS can handle bootstrapping
> such a setup.

Yes, that tends to be the better approach. Either "ext2" or "ext3" are 
the recommended filesystems for GRUB.
 
> I thought the OP originally said he has a separate small /boot, so I'm
> still not sure what his exact issue is.  Thus what I'm trying to nail
> down exactly which Adaptec HBA he's got.

Ah, you're right. Then that shouldn't be the problem.

I would try, at first place, to make the required partitions from a 
Gparted LiveCD (System Rescue or similar) before installing the system to 
see if that helps the installer.

Greetings,

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Re: [SOLVED] Debian-multimedia breaks mplayer .mov playback on Lenny?

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2010-04-17, Clive McBarton  wrote:
>
> Mark wrote:
>> On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 11:06 AM, Mark  wrote:
>> 
>>> Has anyone else experienced mplayer generating Fatal Error "Error
>>> opening/initializing the selected video_out (-vo) device" after adding
>>> debian-multimedia.org to sources.list and performing the subsequent Smart
>>> Upgrades?  I'm trying to figure out if that's the cause; since other
>>> machines I have without debian-multimedia.org in the sources.list tab play
>>> the same .mov files fine I'm suspecting this.  I've tried various tweaks I
>>> found on-line to the /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf file for the vo section but
>>> nothing worked.  I'll be re-doing the installation for a friend and wanted
>>> to avoid breaking mplayer if possible.
>>>
>> 
>> 
>> I have confirmed one of the Smart Upgrades contained in debian-multimedia on
>> Lenny does in fact cause this Fatal Error.  I reinstalled Lenny on the same
>> machine tonight, without adding debian-multimedia to /etc/apt/sources.list,
>> and mplayer plays the .mov files just fine.
>> 
>> Wanted to share in case anyone else has this problem.
>> 
>> Mark
>> 
>
> Adding debian-multimedia.org breaks a couple of things. Including vlc. I
> don't know why they don't fix their repository.
>
> I'm curious if many people use debian-multimedia. Is it trustworthy?
>
>

I have been using debian-multimedia with Debian stable for years without
any problems. It is a vauluable and reliable service, and is provided by
a well-known Debian developer.

To the OP: do you have an example of a file that (the debian-multimedia
version of) mplayer refuses to play?

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Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

[Stan Hoeppner]

Camaleón put forth on 4/17/2010 3:12 AM:
> On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> 
>>> What PCIe RAID card are you using?
>> Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside a supermicro server.

Which Apaptec model, specifically?  Some of the Adaptec SATA cards are
fakeraid.  I want to know if your card is fakeraid or real RAID.  That may
have bearing on this issue.

> I wish you the best (similar setup here and bad experience with adaptec 
> raid cards) :-(
> 
> As per the 4 TiB issue. I just have reviewed the wikipedia article about 
> MBR and forgot the limit of 2 TiB for a "bootable" partition.

I've never run into these issues because I intentionally avoid them.  I
always create a small /boot of about 100MB at the start of the disk and
stick the bootloader in the MBR.  Every BIOS can handle bootstrapping such a
setup.

I thought the OP originally said he has a separate small /boot, so I'm still
not sure what his exact issue is.  Thus what I'm trying to nail down exactly
which Adaptec HBA he's got.

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Re: /etc/bash_completion ?

[Liam O'Toole]

On 2010-04-17, Aioanei Rares  wrote:
> Howdy,
>
> Following this link ( 
> http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_bash_completion_part_1
>  
> ) and if I type at the terminal '. /etc/bash_completion' everything 
> works top-notch. However, if I put the above command in the global 
> .profile or in my user's profile, after typing my user/pass in gdm, I 
> get errors. If I put '. /etc/bash_completion' in ~/.profile, I get the 
> 'your session lasted less than 10 seconds' and the reason is 'cannot 
> open /etc/bash_completion' . If I put the command in /etc/profile, I get 
> some errors about mismatched parantheses. Am I doing something wrong? 
> It's annoying to type '. /etc/bash_profile' everytime. Thanks in advance.
>
> Yours,
>
>
I have the following stanza in my ~/.bashrc file:

if [ -f /etc/bash_completion ]; then
. /etc/bash_completion
fi

It is already in the default .bashrc file (see /etc/skel/.bashrc); you
just need to uncomment it.

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Re: Dual channel memory question

[Stan Hoeppner]

Nick Boyce put forth on 4/16/2010 11:35 PM:

> My current rig - Abit NF7-S V2 mobo (Nforce 2 chipset) and Athlon XP CPU
> - has 3 DIMM slots all the same fetching shade of blue.  I initially
> added two 256Mb sticks in slots 1 & 2, and got dual channel operation
> (the BIOS reports it at boot time : "Dual Channel Operation Enabled").
> When I subsequently added another 512Mb stick in slot 3 this did not
> apparently affect dual channel operation (the message still appears).
> Maybe I get dual channel for the first 512Mb, but only single channel
> for the second 512Mb.

On all nForce2 boards DIMM1 is a channel and DIMM2 and DIMM3 are the other
channel.  Why nVidia did this I can only guess.  It is indeed a strange
design, very asymmetric.  I'm guessing they intended a 4 slot design but ran
into impedance or drive quality issues during verification and had to drop
one socket to get the northbridge to run reliably.  That's just a guess.
I'm also guessing most nForce2 owners put sticks in slot 1 and 2 and left
slot 3 empty.  That's what I did, with two 256s and later two 512s.  I have
the Biostar M7NCD Pro model.

> I had to refer to the manual, *and* take advice from the wonderful
> members of alt.comp.periphs.mainboard.abit.  The latter assured me
> adding the 3rd stick wouldn't prevent dual channel operation.  Some day
> I must try to find out what memory speed I actually get.

Populating slot 3 won't disable dual channel operation.  What happens is you
don't get full bandwidth for memory addresses beyond [slot 1 capacity * 2]
when you stick more total memory in slots 2+3 than you have in slot 1, such
as 1GB in slot 1 and 2GB in slot 2+3, e.g. three 1GB DIMMS.  The last gig of
address space exists in the second channel so bandwidth to it is limited to
single DIMM throughput.

It's almost irrelevant anyway on a socket A platform because the processor
bus is limited to 3.2GB/s unless overclocked.  Each memory channel is
3.2GB/s if using DDR 400 for 6.4GB/s total in dual channel mode.  AGP and
PCI devices are never going to be able to DMA 3.2GB/s while the CPU is at
full load because applications just aren't written in a way to enable such a
thing, even with heavy multitasking.  Thus, any excess bandwidth over about
4GB/s won't be noticed.  On systems using CPUs with integrated memory
controllers, such as most of the 64bit AMDs and the Intel Core I5/I7, dual
(triple) channel operation needs to be enabled.  One will likely see
performance degradation if using a single DIMM on such machines if running
applications that actually take advantage of or stress the machines.  If you
don't notice single channel performance degradation on one of these systems
then I'd say you bought too much machine for the intended use.

> No more Abit now though, sigh.

+1 Abit was awesome.

Luckily I acquired the Abit legend, the BP6.  Still have it.  And it's still
running after all these years.  I have dual Celeron 366s in it running at
512MHz.  Works great as a personal MX SMTP/IMAP/web/webmail/Samba/DNS
resolver running Lenny and a kernel.org kernel.  I dropped in a SATA card
and a 500GB WD a while back to freshen it up a bit.  The Abit mobo is over
10 years old now and provides more performance than the server really needs
for most things, idle most of the time.  The only really taxing thing it
does is an occasional kernel build and imagemagick operations on photos
going on the website.  I will admit it's a bit slow here.  It runs 25
minutes for kernel builds with my config using CONCURRENCT_LEVEL=3.
(without concurrency it takes about 40-45 mins)

It's interesting that two platforms I've owned both came up in this thread,
nForce2 and Abit.  Some planets must be aligned or something. :)

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/etc/bash_completion ?

[Aioanei Rares]

Howdy,

Following this link ( 
http://www.debian-administration.org/article/An_introduction_to_bash_completion_part_1 
) and if I type at the terminal '. /etc/bash_completion' everything 
works top-notch. However, if I put the above command in the global 
.profile or in my user's profile, after typing my user/pass in gdm, I 
get errors. If I put '. /etc/bash_completion' in ~/.profile, I get the 
'your session lasted less than 10 seconds' and the reason is 'cannot 
open /etc/bash_completion' . If I put the command in /etc/profile, I get 
some errors about mismatched parantheses. Am I doing something wrong? 
It's annoying to type '. /etc/bash_profile' everytime. Thanks in advance.


Yours,


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Re: crypt question/server hotel

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 10:49:20AM +0200, Jozsi Vadkan wrote:
> I want to put my server in a "server hotel".
> 
> But: I don't trust my "server hotel owner".
> 
> What can I do?

I am no expert on this issue but this is my common sense.

Do not use such untrusted servers for the sensitive data.

You can put measures to remote break-in etc.  But whoever have local
hysical access can get tou your data on the system.

(I do not quite understand what kind of server arrangement ...
virtualized or rack moiunted dedicated server... either way, it is the
same thing.)
 
> I can crypt my partition/hdd's that contains the data. Ok.
> But: then my operating system will not be encrypted. Not Ok.

Well, once booted, and if they have some kind of hardware access before
you boot into your system, you are doomed.  Because they can have
backdoor access.

> If I crypt my operating system too, then when a reboot comes,
> I have to type a password to decrypt. But my server will be at 
> a "server hotel" I can't directly use a keyboard [no service cpu]. 

All these methods protect against casual break-in but if system is run
under some super-server like xen etc., your security measure stopps
there.  
 
> What can I do [on technical side] to ensure a little more security 
> to my server [e.g: crypt my partition/slice/whatever, that has the 
> operating system, but without the "type password" ""problem""]

If they have monitoring system pre-installed, ... even with this
protection is no good.

> Thank you for any tips/help.

Keep sensitive data where you have full trust. The remote untrusted
servers are good for web gateway only.  But even for that, you should
have some trust to them.

Osamu


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Re: crypt question/server hotel

[Kevin Ross]

Jozsi Vadkan wrote:

I want to put my server in a "server hotel".

But: I don't trust my "server hotel owner".

What can I do?


I can crypt my partition/hdd's that contains the data. Ok.
But: then my operating system will not be encrypted. Not Ok.


If I crypt my operating system too, then when a reboot comes,
I have to type a password to decrypt. But my server will be at 
a "server hotel" I can't directly use a keyboard [no service cpu]. 




What can I do [on technical side] to ensure a little more security 
to my server [e.g: crypt my partition/slice/whatever, that has the 
operating system, but without the "type password" ""problem""]


Thank you for any tips/help.


Servers usually have the option of some sort of remote access 
controller, which allows you to do things to the server as if you were 
sitting at the console, such as power off, power on, and to see a remote 
console to do things like make BIOS changes, or in your case, to enter a 
password to decrypt the disk.



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Re: How to migrate my localhost php site to my ISP - Was: willing to learn php basics

[Bernard]

Joe wrote:

On 15/04/10 22:43, Bernard wrote:

Hi Avi, Hi to Everyone,

Avi Greenbury wrote:

Bernard wrote:

Have I got to install one or more Debian packages for PHP ?
'$apt-cache search PHP' gives too many results for a choice.


You want to do
# apt-get install php5 php-mysql apache2

Which will also pull in the php5 apache module.
By default, the web pages live under /var/www, the php config file
is /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini and the apache config is all
under /etc/apache2/, with apache2.conf being the 'main' config file.

There're several howtos on the net to talk you through it, howtoforge
is a bit of a goldmine for them.

I have now got to a point that I have a working MySQL database system on
my localhost machine. I thought that I would not have any problem
migrating this to my ISP appropriate MySQL space, but so far I have
failed to do so. Local doc is very scarce, and I did not find any
relevant FAQ. I did find the relevant paths though, and succeeded
installing a short php script which displays the current date, using
strftime(), but there is no way I can access databases. From the online
doc, I learnt that I can't create databases, and that I can just create
tables under the database that already exists. If I import a table, only
its structure gets imported, not its content, and then an error message
says that I don't have privileges for this... so I am surely missing
something as far as setting up is concerned, or initialization. In my
efforts to fetch info, I got a few hints, but they were negative ones,
for instance someone kind of said that most ISP did not allow their
customers to more than one authenticated user. This would mean that I
could not expect to install a database that would be available to the
members of a club, each of them having a login and password.

Could someone tell me where I could find relevant information and docs ?
And maybe mention one or more ISP that would provide suitable mysql
facilities ?


For another perspective:

I use 1&1 (http://1and1.com) for a web database. They have several 
level of package, the one I use has MySQL facilities, ftp and also ssh 
access to the virtual server that runs apache.


As Monique said, you can use MySQL to store passwords and write your 
own login script, but you should also be able to use basic 
authentication (with .htpass files) in the web server to require a 
user name and password for access to web pages, which may well be 
enough for your purposes. The advantage is that it's simple to set up, 
the disadvantage is that you have to set the passwords and communicate 
them to the users, they cannot change them. Neither of these 
techniques count as authentication to the operating system or MySQL 
itself, so the single user isn't a problem.


The MySQL installation at 1&1 is accessible by a public IP address 
from the virtual server, but this is not guaranteed to be available 
from outside their own network. They advise that the database be 
accessed only from the virtual server, either through ssh or the web 
server.They recommend installing phpmyadmin, which is a script which 
runs on the web server.


Monique and Avi mentioned mysqldump, and phpmyadmin offers similar 
features remotely through a web page, including uploading of .sql 
files, by which you can create and populate entire databases if 
necessary. It can also backup the database to a file on the client 
computer. You can access phpmyadmin from anywhere, and you need to 
login to it using the MySQL credentials. The phpmyadmin information 
page can also tell you quite a lot about how the apache and MySQL 
installations are configured.


One last point: even if you don't advertise the website outside your 
club membership, it will be found by others, and you need to 
understand at least SQL injection and cross-site scripting attacks on 
web servers, and the facilities that PHP offers to help defend against 
them. You should also regularly check your web server directory 
structure and files for signs of tampering. And a whole load of other 
things, but web server security is a career in itself...


Thanks for your advice. I do have 'mysqladmin' installed on both ISP, 
but I lack super user privileges, and most functions are therefore 
unavailable to me, as explained in my previous post.



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Re: How to migrate my localhost php site to my ISP - Was: willing to learn php basics

[Bernard]

On Thu, Apr 15 at 23:43, Bernard penned:
  

I have now got to a point that I have a working MySQL database
system on my localhost machine. I thought that I would not have any
problem migrating this to my ISP appropriate MySQL space, but so far
I have failed to do so. Local doc is very scarce, and I did not find
any relevant FAQ. I did find the relevant paths though, and
succeeded installing a short php script which displays the current
date, using strftime(), but there is no way I can access databases.
From the online doc, I learnt that I can't create databases, and
that I can just create tables under the database that already
exists. If I import a table, only its structure gets imported, not
its content, and then an error message says that I don't have
privileges for this... so I am surely missing something as far as
setting up is concerned, or initialization. In my efforts to fetch
info, I got a few hints, but they were negative ones, for instance
someone kind of said that most ISP did not allow their customers to
more than one authenticated user. This would mean that I could not
expect to install a database that would be available to the members
of a club, each of them having a login and password.



Maybe I'm misunderstanding the question, but ... typically you would
have *one* login that the website uses to talk to the database.
Website users would not authenticate by logging into the database -
they would authenticate by having a username and (possibly encrypted)
password stored in the database, which you would somehow retrieve and
compare.
  


Thanks for your help Monique. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes 
sense that the ISP only allows one user to log into databases. Problem 
is that outside users will have to connect to my database through a php 
script that will contain my password !
  

Could someone tell me where I could find relevant information and
docs ? And maybe mention one or more ISP that would provide suitable
mysql facilities ?



As for hosting companies, I have been very happy with www.pair.com for
years.  They provide I believe three database users - read-only,
read-write, and full access.  You would only use the full access user
to create the database structure - tables, indexes, etc.  
Prior to subscribing to an expensive hosting, I wish to test the system 
on free ISP. I have two of them here. I tested them both, but testing 
did not go far as for now, since I am far from having understood how it 
is supposed to work. No doc is provided, except links for general docs. 
As previously said, I have been able to connect and succeed in a few 
requests, but, obviously I lack a "full priviledge" (root) status. I do 
have mysqladmin installed on both ISP machines, but I can do very little 
with it : '... denied for user bdebreil...'. Reading the general 
mysqladmin doc tells me that I have to create a super user (as I did in 
my local mysql machine on my PC), but nothing works. Same thing with my 
other ISP. Using php scripts, some sql request do work, for instance I 
can manually add content to an empty database that I have imported using 
phpmyadmin (import with no data, data refused: 'access denied...'), but 
I have no such thing as 'FILE' privilege, so that I cannot import data 
using 'LOAD DATA [LOCAL] INFILE ...' as I do on my local machine. Of 
course, anything such as 'GRANT [privilege] does not work either. The 
mysqladmin doc says that one has to create a config.inc.php file in the 
same folder as 'Mysqladmin documentation.html'... but I have no access 
to that folder... I would be tempted to write to my ISP system 
administrator, but, since I found that I have the same config at both my 
ISPs, I imagine that this is the way it is supposed to be..


By the way, just in case I would decide to subscribe to pair.com, would 
you know if it is possible to subscribe for a short time, 3 months for 
instance ? I know of an ISP in Switzerland that is quite a bit cheaper, 
but then you have to subscribe for at least two years (80 Euros for the 
first year, 120 Euros for each following year)




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crypt question/server hotel

[Jozsi Vadkan]

I want to put my server in a "server hotel".

But: I don't trust my "server hotel owner".

What can I do?


I can crypt my partition/hdd's that contains the data. Ok.
But: then my operating system will not be encrypted. Not Ok.


If I crypt my operating system too, then when a reboot comes,
I have to type a password to decrypt. But my server will be at 
a "server hotel" I can't directly use a keyboard [no service cpu]. 



What can I do [on technical side] to ensure a little more security 
to my server [e.g: crypt my partition/slice/whatever, that has the 
operating system, but without the "type password" ""problem""]

Thank you for any tips/help.


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Re: debian on a raid5 (4TB) issues

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 17 Apr 2010 07:24:20 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 17, 2010 at 2:12 AM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

>> What PCIe RAID card are you using?
> Adaptec AAC-RAID card inside a supermicro server.

I wish you the best (similar setup here and bad experience with adaptec 
raid cards) :-(

As per the 4 TiB issue. I just have reviewed the wikipedia article about 
MBR and forgot the limit of 2 TiB for a "bootable" partition.

Greetings,

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