help resizing a partition on GPT disk

[Alexander Samad]

Hi

I have built a 5T partition with my raid card and just expanded it out
to 9G, now I want to resize the partition I had to use parted so that
I can use gpt partitions. Every time I go to resize partd tells me it
doesn't know what fs ison the partition - its a pv.  so I am sort of
stuck ...


Never really used gpt before.

Thanks
Alex


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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Mark Allums]

On 4/24/2010 4:56 PM, B. Alexander wrote:
. Even with it's vboxheadless functionality,

its [vbox is] still a bit too dodgy for a group of machines that need to stay 
up.



I would have said that about Xen.

(OP did say "personal use", so I assumed desktop.)

MAA


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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Mark Allums]

On 4/24/2010 4:27 PM, Andreas Weber wrote:

Andrei Popescu wrote:

Except for USB the package virtualbox-ose in Debian will meet all your
requirements. (OSE stands for Open Source Edition)

If USB is a must you can use the repos from Sun (the USB stuff is
non-free).


If USB is a must, stick the device in, mount it and open a shared folder
in Virtualbox OSE on the mount point for it. That easy.




That works on disk-like devices, not so much on other things.  Some 
people are scared of shared folders as possible attack vectors, thus 
security risks.


MAA


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Re: Filesystem recommendations

[Mark Allums]

On 04/24/2010 12:53 PM, B. Alexander wrote:

Hi,



So now, I would like to slowly start replacing my reiser3 partitions
with...something else. There are two options, the old standards, e.g.
ext3/4, xfs, etc, and then there are a slew of new filesystems, such as
nilfs2, btrfs and exofs.



You probably want ext3 now, and ext4 soon.  Midterm, you will want ext4 
and XFS.  Longer term, btrfs will be the wasp's nipples, if it pans out. 
(Linus uses it now, allegededly.)  I wanted to like ZFS, but Sun is now 
Oracle, and thus over it hangs a dark cloud.  Besides, we can almost get 
the benefits of ZFS with Linux RAID plus LVM2.



MAA

(Why? ext3 and 4 are exceptionally well supported by Linux and GNU.  XFS 
will be, too, probably.)



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Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

[Dotan Cohen]

>> Not only that, but it's definitely not "production ready".  Almost
>
> I've seen far worse in production equipment.  OTOH, without a case, it
> does look far from professional.
>

Well, production in this case is not "people will die if it fails" so
it is passable for his needs.


> Unless, that is, Dotan stripped the unit to take the photograph.
>

No, actually, that is how it came!




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Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

[Dotan Cohen]

Thanks, Johan and Ron!


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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Mark Allums]

On 4/24/2010 7:31 AM, John Hasler wrote:

Mark Allums writes:

Ah, a matter of taste, then.  (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded,
apparently.)


No.  A matter of support.



Okay.  But perhaps a less loaded word than "taint" could be chosen.

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Re: funky kernel message from syslogd

[Tzafrir Cohen]

On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 07:24:38PM -0400, Nick Lidakis wrote:
> This popped up in one of my xterms after my Thinkpad came out of hibernation
> today. The machine has beeped a few times as this message was repeated.
> Does not sound good. Call Trace? That's, like, bad? Right?
> 
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.069917] Oops:  [#1] SMP 
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.069923] last sysfs file:
> /sys/devices/virtual/misc/cpu_dma_latency/uevent
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.070112] Process udev-acl.ck (pid: 17300, ti=df3a8000
> task=f47e61c0 task.ti=df3a8000)
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.070117] Stack:
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.070164] Call Trace:
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.070244] Code: c7 40 28 01 00 00 00 89 d0 5a 5b 5e 5f 5d c3 55
> b9 00 10 00 00 57 56 53 83 ec 14 89 14 24 89 44 24 04 8b 42 0c 8b 68 58 8b 45
> 08 <8b> 78 14 89 d0 ba d4 c7 4a c1 83 c0 08 e8 1f d9 fc ff 85 c0 89 
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.070322] EIP: [] sysfs_open_file+0x1c/0x259 SS:ESP
> 0068:df3a9e7c
> 
> Message from sysl...@thinkpad at Apr 22 18:52:20 ...
>  kernel:[42926.070333] CR2: 0014

You'll probably find the complete message in /var/log/kern.log .

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[James P. Wallen]

I occasionally turn on Xfce's compositing for specific tasks in which it
actually makes my work easier. But most if the time, it's off.


How do you enable it? Did you also have to add something to xorg.conf?


Desktop compositing in Xfce? I just turn it on in the Compositing tab of 
the Window Manager Tweaks applet. No fiddling with xorg.conf necessary.



What about GoogleEarth?


I don't use it. I guess I ought to look into it. My brother showed me a 
really fantastic use he made of it for tracing the path of a priest 
through Colorado and Kansas in the 1600s for an anthropology paper he 
was doing. Just what I need, another way to spend time at a computer. 
But I have to admit that it's a fascinating application, despite my 
curmudgeonly tendency to scoff at fancy browser stuff.


I don't suppose the bits are open source? If not, I'll probably be 
passing. Eh, maybe I could talk myself into running it in a virtual machine.


;)


and I'm happier with them. Nvidia is simply not on
my radar for any future systems because I consider their approach to
Linux to be inimical to FOSS.


That's a reasonable position to take...


Well, I'm seldom accused of being reasonable. But I figure I can be 
unreasonable with my own systems.


Thank you for the reminder of GoogleEarth. I've been so busy since I saw 
my brother that I had let it slip from my mind. Or it could just be old age.



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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Dale]

On 25 April 2010 04:41, Danny  wrote:
> Hi Christian,
>
> It looks like Vista and Windows 7 people are experiencing the same problem as
> you are. If you go to the www.huawei.com forum you will find a bunch of non
> linux people have more or less the same problem with communicating with this
> modem.
>
> Just a stupid question, can Debian see this modem?
> Do the following for a start just to see if Debian can see it :
> dmesg | more | grep --color -A1 'dev'
>
> It is a simple command but at least you will see if it is recognised
>
> Danny
>
> On Apr 23 10, Umarzuki Mochlis :
>> To: Christian Simo 
>> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:41 +0800
>> From: Umarzuki Mochlis 
>> Subject: Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny
>> X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org
>>
>> i had done that once and documented it at http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174
>>
>> P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo  wrote:
>>
>>     Hi Dear Team
>>
>>     Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752 on
>>     Debian Lenny.
>>     On Suse, I do it easy
>>
>>     Thanks for your response.
>>
>>     Christian
>>

Hi,

I have the Huawei E1762 usb dongle running under Lenny and Squeeze
using pppd as were I live I have no access to dsl or cable.

With Lenny you need to install the the kernel 2.6.30 from Debian
backports[1] first, as the 2.6.28 kernels onwards will flip flop the
device for you. At the moment it maybe just being picked up as a mass
storage device and not a modem if you still using the 2.6.26 kernel.
And if you want to stay with the 2.6.26 kernel you will have to
install usb-modeswitch[3].

Setting up wvdial this might help you[2].


Regards
Dale

[1] http://backports.org/dokuwiki/doku.php
[2] http://quail.southernvaleslug.org/webblog/archives/136
[3] http://www.draisberghof.de/usb_modeswitch/
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Re: Filesystem recommendations

[Kevin Ross]

On 4/24/2010 10:53 AM, B. Alexander wrote:

Hi,

I have a question on filesystems. Back in the day, I started using 
reiser3. It was faster than ext3, and it could be extended without 
umounting the filesystem (which has since been fixed in ext3), plus, 
unlike any filesystem I have encountered, it could be reduced in size.


Well, now reiser3 is very long in the tooth, reiser4 will probably 
never go anywhere, so I'm wondering what filesystems are recommended. 
Last I heard, ext4 is stablizing, but it had problems with filesystem 
corruption, though that was mid-fall last year, IIRC.


So now, I would like to slowly start replacing my reiser3 partitions 
with...something else. There are two options, the old standards, e.g. 
ext3/4, xfs, etc, and then there are a slew of new filesystems, such 
as nilfs2, btrfs and exofs.


I'm talking about a range of machines, from workstations to servers to 
NFS and storage servers with multi-terabyte disks, and a backup server 
with several hundred gigs of backups.


Does anyone have suggestions and practical experience with the pros 
and cons of the various filesystems?


Thanks,
--b


If file integrity are important to you, look for a FS that keeps 
checksums of individual files.  Otherwise, if a file becomes corrupted, 
you'll never know it, unless you keep your own checksums.  There are 
only a small handful of filesystems that keep checksums of your files.  
Btrfs and ZFS come to mind.  I believe ZFS is more mature than Btrfs, 
but it isn't in the kernel.  I believe the only way to get ZFS on Linux 
is through FUSE.


There's also JFS, which has been around for a number of years, and is 
mature.  It doesn't checksum your files, but it does use copy-on-write 
(as do Btrfs and ZFS), which goes a long way to keeping your data from 
getting corrupted, something XFS does not do.


So if Btrfs were more mature, or if ZFS were included in the kernel, I'd 
recommend either of those.  But as it is, I think JFS is the way to go.


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Re: Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

[Kevin Ross]

On 4/24/2010 4:50 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
[snip]


PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.



I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.



I agree.  I like that it has the "Reply to List" button (which I know 
was available as an add-on before), but that's the only thing about it 
that I like better.  Well maybe putting the reply, etc. buttons in the 
message header area instead of up top is an improvement, too.  But 
otherwise, I'm not loving it.



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Re: creating tables...html

[Robert Baron]

Here is a different way - kinda expensive with divs - depending on how
rigorous the formatting needs to be.  You can change the colors to
what you want them to be.

 test text here1 
 test text here2 
 test text here1 
  
  
 test text here1 
 test text here1 
 test text here2 


On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Mike Bird  wrote:
> On Sat April 24 2010 15:52:41 Jozsi Vadkan wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> a:link, a:visited, a:active { text-decoration: none; }
>> a:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
>> table.tabletemplate { width: 100%; border-width: 1px; border-style:
>> outset; border-color: #00; }
>> 
>> test text here1
>> test text here2
>> 
>> test text here1
>> test text here2
>> 
>> test text here1
>> test text here2
>> 
>
> You've got two different causes of white space there.  Try this:
>
> 
> 
> a:link, a:visited, a:active { text-decoration: none; }
> a:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
> table.tabletemplate { width: 100%; border-width: 1px; border-style:
> outset; border-color: #00; }
> 
> test text here1
> test text here2
> 
> test text here1
> test text here2test text here1
> test text here2
> 
> 
>
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Re: creating tables...html

[Mike Bird]

On Sat April 24 2010 15:52:41 Jozsi Vadkan wrote:
> 
> 
> a:link, a:visited, a:active { text-decoration: none; }
> a:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
> table.tabletemplate { width: 100%; border-width: 1px; border-style:
> outset; border-color: #00; }
> 
> test text here1
> test text here2
> 
> test text here1
> test text here2
> 
> test text here1
> test text here2
> 

You've got two different causes of white space there.  Try this:



a:link, a:visited, a:active { text-decoration: none; }
a:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
table.tabletemplate { width: 100%; border-width: 1px; border-style:
outset; border-color: #00; }

test text here1
test text here2

test text here1
test text here2test text here1
test text here2



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Icedove/Thunderbird 3.0 (was Re: The future of "nv" ...)

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 06:11 PM, James P. Wallen wrote:
[snip]


PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of
sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.



I don't think I've hated a program more than I hate Tbird 3.0.

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Re: Re: The future of "nv" driver (was: Linux compatible mainboards -another thought)

[James P. Wallen]

On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
> That's one difference between us: I don't use Compiz.

That's not a difference. I don't use it, either. My use of Compiz was 
just a part of exploration of the Gnome DE. I don't even use Gnome now.


> ... because I don't need glitzy special effects.

Neither do I. That's why I use Xfce.

> Are there any non-glitzy benefits to compositors?

I occasionally turn on Xfce's compositing for specific tasks in which it 
actually makes my work easier. But most if the time, it's off.


> Which driver version do you use?

nv - Debian Squeeze

Gave up finally in December last year trying to get the blobs to work 
reliably. They're simply not worth the effort for someone with my 
particular needs.


I'm reasonably happy with the systems with the nvidia workstation cards. 
But the cheaper systems with Intel and ATI graphics are faster and 
handle any special effects I might want (like occasional use of desktop 
compositing) better, and I'm happier with them. Nvidia is simply not on 
my radar for any future systems because I consider their approach to 
Linux to be inimical to FOSS.


PS: My apologies. Recent update to my mail client coupled with lack of 
sleep. I accidentally sent Ron a direct e-mail reply. Mea culpa.



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Re: Sharing Iceweasel's bookmarks through LAN

[Nick Douma]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 10:57:07PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am using UNISON to share files between two computers in my LAN. I
> share my documents, etc., but I would like to share bookmarks too.
> However, I don't know if Iceweasel puts them in some place. Where could
> I reach them?

I would rather use X-Marks or something similar to share bookmarks between 
multiple workstations. It seems a bit more robust to me than just copying the 
file.


signature.asc
Description: Digital signature

creating tables...html

[Jozsi Vadkan]

What can i do about those empty spaces? i just can't figure it out...

the html code:



a:link, a:visited, a:active { text-decoration: none; }
a:hover { text-decoration: underline; }
table.tabletemplate { width: 100%; border-width: 1px; border-style:
outset; border-color: #00; }

test text here1
test text here2

test text here1
test text here2

test text here1
test text here2



please help!! :\

thanks..:\
i tried it under chromium + iceweasel
<><>

Re: Filesystem recommendations

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 05:31 PM, B. Alexander wrote:

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:

[snip]


XFS is the canonical fs for when you have lots of Big Files.  I've also
seen simple benchmarks on this list showing that it's faster than ext3/ext4.



Thats cool. What about Lots of Little Files? That was another of the draws
of reiser3. I have a space I mount on /media/archive, which has everything
from mp3/oggs and movies, to books to a bunch of tiny files. This will
probably be the first victim for the xfs test partition.


That same unofficial benchmark showed surprising small-file speed by 
xfs.



xfs and ext[34] can all be extended.  For production servers with a working
UPS, I'd go with ext3 for /&  /boot and xfs (since it hates sudden power
outages) for the "/data" directories.  For production workstations, I'd
stick with the standby ext3 for /&  /boot and ext3 or xfs for /home and
"/data" (depending on the workload).



Define "hates sudden power outages"...Is it recoverable?



They got pretty corrupted.  Maybe it's been robustified in the 
intervening years.


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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 04:09 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Mark Allums writes:

Ah, a matter of taste, then.  (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded,
apparently.)


I wrote:

No.  A matter of support.  Device driver bugs can cause crashes in
apparently unrelated parts of the kernel.


Ron Johnson writes:

I must not stress my system enough, because even using the nvidia
driver, my machine is rock stable.


I didn't mean to imply that the Nvidia drivers were particularly buggy.
It's just that when kernels with Nvidia drivers do crash (whether due to
bugs in the Nvidia stuff or elsewhere) the kernel maintainers can't
properly debug it because the don't have all the source.  Since Nvidia
does have all the source they refer you to Nvidia.  They came up with
the "taint" device as a automated way to warn them of the presence of
closed-source drivers since the users often don't know.


Exactly.  Which is why I wrote "Which is perfectly reasonable..." in 
my reply to you.


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Re: where is what kontrol did?

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 03:20 PM, Lisi wrote:

On Saturday 24 April 2010 20:10:51 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

But will pulse audio make my Konsole make a sound because that is the
only reason I would install systemsettings.


I'm fascinated.  Why do you _want_ your Konsole to make a sound?



He might have practical reasons...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_character
A bell code (sometimes bell character) is a device control
code originally sent to ring a small electromechanical bell
on tickers and other teleprinters (remote printers) and
teletypewriters (such as Teletypes, abbreviated TTYs) to
alert operators at the other end of the line, often of an
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Re: Filesystem recommendations

[B. Alexander]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:11 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:

> On 04/24/2010 12:53 PM, B. Alexander wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have a question on filesystems. Back in the day, I started using
>> reiser3. It was faster than ext3, and it could be extended without
>> umounting the filesystem (which has since been fixed in ext3), plus,
>> unlike any filesystem I have encountered, it could be reduced in size.
>>
>> Well, now reiser3 is very long in the tooth, reiser4 will probably never
>> go anywhere, so I'm wondering what filesystems are recommended. Last I
>> heard, ext4 is stablizing, but it had problems with filesystem
>> corruption, though that was mid-fall last year, IIRC.
>>
>> So now, I would like to slowly start replacing my reiser3 partitions
>> with...something else. There are two options, the old standards, e.g.
>> ext3/4, xfs, etc, and then there are a slew of new filesystems, such as
>> nilfs2, btrfs and exofs.
>>
>> I'm talking about a range of machines, from workstations to servers to
>> NFS and storage servers with multi-terabyte disks, and a backup server
>> with several hundred gigs of backups.
>>
>> Does anyone have suggestions and practical experience with the pros and
>> cons of the various filesystems?
>>
>>
> XFS is the canonical fs for when you have lots of Big Files.  I've also
> seen simple benchmarks on this list showing that it's faster than ext3/ext4.
>

Thats cool. What about Lots of Little Files? That was another of the draws
of reiser3. I have a space I mount on /media/archive, which has everything
from mp3/oggs and movies, to books to a bunch of tiny files. This will
probably be the first victim for the xfs test partition.

nilfs2, btrfs and exofs are *definitely* still beta or even alpha.
>
> xfs and ext[34] can all be extended.  For production servers with a working
> UPS, I'd go with ext3 for / & /boot and xfs (since it hates sudden power
> outages) for the "/data" directories.  For production workstations, I'd
> stick with the standby ext3 for / & /boot and ext3 or xfs for /home and
> "/data" (depending on the workload).
>

Define "hates sudden power outages"...Is it recoverable?

Thanks for the info, Ron,
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Re: Sharing Iceweasel's bookmarks through LAN

[Merciadri Luca]

Nuno Magalhães wrote:
> http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+firefox+bookmark+file
>   
Sure it helps. Thanks. I habitually do it, but there, I thought there
would not have been any result!

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Re: VM software for personal use?

[B. Alexander]

Amen to that! IMHO, vmware merely pays lip service to Linux. 12 years ago,
when we were using Linux on the job, we (and many, many others) were asking
for a Linux client. We are now at VSphere 4, and still only windows clients.

VMware server is even worse. It runs on Linux, and it worked okay, but you
are frozen in time -- no updates -- lest you break your install. I did that
on my vmware server installation, and then I upgraded. I could not get the
vmware modules to compile on a reasonably modern kernel. So I went back to
an earlier kernel (2.6.30, iirc), and once I got the modules compiled, the
web interface only worked about one time in 3. So I am pretty much done with
vmware.

Now, since I only have 32 bit machines, I guess I'll be doing Xen, since as
good as it is, VBox is good for desktop-type virtualization, rather than
machine consolidation. Even with it's vboxheadless functionality, its still
a bit too dodgy for a group of machines that need to stay up.

--b

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:20 PM, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

> Mark Allums wrote:
>
>> On 4/23/2010 11:31 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>
>>  P.S.  Apologies if this question seems too far off-topic for
>>> debian-user.  If there's a better place to ask this question, I'd like
>>> to know that, too.
>>>
>>
>> Virtualbox meets more of your individual criteria than anything else I can
>> think of, but the open source edition lacks USB.  I would consider the
>> non-OSE version for now, but only if I were prepared to migrate to something
>> else, later, depending on what Oracle may choose to to with it, now that
>> they own Sun.
>>
>> Some version of QEMU with KVM will always work, but you definitely need
>> the KVM bits, because by itself QEMU is not a speed demon.
>>
>> I enjoy Xen-like hypervisors from an aesthetics point-of-view, but the
>> best ones are not free in any sense.  Microsoft's Hyper-V flat-out costs
>> money, and VMware's ESXi comes with too much baggage.  Xen itself is still
>> in a state of flux, and though the 2.6.32 kernel version is much more stable
>> than previous versions, I wouldn't call it ready for prime time.
>>
>>
> And I am getting tired of always having to look around for fixes to
> VMware's server whenever you upgrade your kernel, it appears their Linux
> attention leaves something to be desired.
>
> Hugo
>
>
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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Andreas Weber]

Andrei Popescu wrote:
> Except for USB the package virtualbox-ose in Debian will meet all your 
> requirements. (OSE stands for Open Source Edition)
> 
> If USB is a must you can use the repos from Sun (the USB stuff is 
> non-free).

If USB is a must, stick the device in, mount it and open a shared folder
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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[John Hasler]

Mark Allums writes:
> Ah, a matter of taste, then.  (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded,
> apparently.)

I wrote:
> No.  A matter of support.  Device driver bugs can cause crashes in
> apparently unrelated parts of the kernel.

Ron Johnson writes:
> I must not stress my system enough, because even using the nvidia
> driver, my machine is rock stable.

I didn't mean to imply that the Nvidia drivers were particularly buggy.
It's just that when kernels with Nvidia drivers do crash (whether due to
bugs in the Nvidia stuff or elsewhere) the kernel maintainers can't
properly debug it because the don't have all the source.  Since Nvidia
does have all the source they refer you to Nvidia.  They came up with
the "taint" device as a automated way to warn them of the presence of
closed-source drivers since the users often don't know.
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Re: Sharing Iceweasel's bookmarks through LAN

[Nuno Magalhães]

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=linux+firefox+bookmark+file

HTH

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

[Merciadri Luca]

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This looks like kerneloops sends the oopses through a simple
URL. Strange. It seems not to even ping a reference IP to see if the
connexion is still alive. Weird.

submit-url = http://submit.kerneloops.org/submitoops.php is appended
at the end of my kerneloops.conf.



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Sharing Iceweasel's bookmarks through LAN

[Merciadri Luca]

Hi,

I am using UNISON to share files between two computers in my LAN. I
share my documents, etc., but I would like to share bookmarks too.
However, I don't know if Iceweasel puts them in some place. Where could
I reach them?

Thanks.

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:44:46 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> When my Lenny (w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem) encounters a kernel error, a
>> box pops, and I am asked if I want to report the (de)bug information.
>
> Yes, that's "kerneloops" daemon :-)
Thanks. :-)

>> 1. Why can't I specify somewhere that I always want to report this info?
>> Such boxes are annoying
>
> Yes, you can.
>
> /etc/kerneloops.conf
>
> # Set the following variable to "yes" if you want to automatically
> # submit your oopses to the database for use by your distribution or the
> # Linux kernel developers
>
> allow-submit = ask
>
> Set that to "yes".
Thanks.

>> 2. If I am not connected to the Internet, the (de)bug info is marked as
>> `sent' after having chosen a button which allows the reporting tool to
>> send data over the Internet. Why?
>
> My guess is that kerneloops daemon just says "sent" when you click in 
> "yes" submit button but cannot address if the user is online or not.
That's my guess too.

> I dunno what method uses kerneloops to send the data (e-mail?). If sends 
> the info by e-mail, you could check Exim's queue by being root and 
> issuing "mailq" command.
Actually, mailq seems to give nothing. 

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Audible bell in Metacity

[Claudius Hubig]

Hello List,

I like my audible bell very much. I really really like it –
unfortunately, Metacity (from current Testing) blocks it in the
following way:

* "beep" works fine
* "xkbbell -force" works, but it doesn't w/o the "-force"
* Gnome-Terminal and all the other applications can only bell
  "visible", i. e. I get a flash when enabling the visible bell in
  Metacity's gconf-preferences but no audible bell if I disable it
  (and leave "audible bell" enabled).
* The module pcspkr is compiled into the kernel and works fine, as
  proven above.
* The volume of the "Bell"-output is at 50% in Alsamixer, and as
  proven above, ok this way.

I assume this is the same bug as described in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/486154/

and comment 50 seems to provide a solution I didn't test yet – my
question is, wether or not there is a Debian-way to enable the bell
in Metacity or if I have to switch window managers as Piotr Engelking
did here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=551590

The hints he gave in this bug report unfortunately don't work for me
– I enabled the corresponding keys, but still can't hear a bell,
probably because I don't use ESD (is there any reason why I should
install this? ALSA works just fine for me…)

Best regards,

Claudius

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Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

[Felix Natter]

Camaleón  writes:

> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:33:59 +0200, Felix Natter wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>> 
>>> What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say?
>> 
>> /var/log/hibernate* does not exist after a (succesful) resume, although
>> this is in common.conf:
>> 
>> Verbosity 0
>> LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log
>> LogVerbosity 1
>> 
>> Any idea?
>
> Yes, you can increase the log verbosity:
>
> Verbosity 4
> LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log
> LogVerbosity 4
>
> And check that file after suspending/restoring.

from man hibernate.conf:
  Verbosity N
 Determines  how  verbose  the  output from the suspend script
 should be: 0: silent except for  errors  1:  print  steps  2:
 print  steps  in  detail  3: print steps in lots of detail 4:
 print out every command executed (uses -x)

so verbosity 1 should output something, but I will try 4.

> But if you already got a success resume, why are you in the need of 
> blacklisting modules? :-?

Sometimes, it works, sometimes it doesn't.

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Re: where is what kontrol did?

[Lisi]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 20:10:51 Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> But will pulse audio make my Konsole make a sound because that is the
> only reason I would install systemsettings.

I'm fascinated.  Why do you _want_ your Konsole to make a sound?

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Re: how to setup my environment variable for vim ?

[Jordan Metzmeier]

> Try putting this in ~/.bashrc:
>
> export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim
>
> Regards,
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You can also make it a system wide configuration with
"update-alternatives --config editor". I have not tried it shells
other than bash but I assume it is portable.

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Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

[Andrew Malcolmson]

This site has great resources on fixing suspend problems:

http://hal.freedesktop.org/quirk/quirk-suspend-index.html


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Re: Why is Acroversion not properly updated?

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 3:30 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> On 04/24/2010 02:08 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
>>
>> Every time I update acroread (including mozilla-acroread, the plugin
>> which displays PDFs), it breaks until I edit
>> /usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/AcroVersion to reflect the current
>> version (which is noted in the shellscript
>> /etc/alternatives/acroread).  This should NOT be necessary.  Is it my
>> problem or do I need to file a bug report?
>>
>
> Currently, on my amd64 Sid system, the contents of that file is (sans
> quotes) "9.3.2", which is the version of acroread installed.

As it now is on my amd64 testing system, but only because I manually edited it!

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Re: Why is Acroversion not properly updated?

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 02:08 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

Every time I update acroread (including mozilla-acroread, the plugin
which displays PDFs), it breaks until I edit
/usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/AcroVersion to reflect the current
version (which is noted in the shellscript
/etc/alternatives/acroread).  This should NOT be necessary.  Is it my
problem or do I need to file a bug report?



Currently, on my amd64 Sid system, the contents of that file is 
(sans quotes) "9.3.2", which is the version of acroread installed.


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Re: Impossible to establish ppp-connection through cellar samsung.

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

green wrote:

Sthu Deus wrote at 2010-04-23 06:47 -0500:

I have troubles with connecting cellar phone Samsung C3010 to Debian 5 desktop.
I have put into chatscript the correct for the manufacturer initialization 
line, but it still does not work.


I can't help you with chatscripts, but I have found that I often have to dial 
#777 to make USB cell/3g modems work.  Also, I have had much more luck with 
wvdial (which calls pppd) than just ppp.  I hope you are able to find a 
solution.



I'd be interested in whether you got that thing to work the way you want to.

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Blank page after every page when printing PDFs with evince - Debian Lenny, CUPS, HP Paintjet (pj)

[Stephen Powell]

I have noticed that when printing multi-page PDF files from evince on 
the GNOME desktop, using CUPS under Debian Lenny, I get a blank page
after every page.  My printer is an HP PaintJet.  This wastes paper and
is very annoying.  I have searched the Internet, of course, but I did
not find any solutions.  The closest I found was Debian bug report 316392,
but his work-around doesn't work for me.  My PPD file already specifies
Letter instead of A4 for Page Size.  Does anyone know a work-around for
this?  Surely someone has run across this before.

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Re: The future of "nv" driver (was: Linux compatible mainboards -another thought)

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 08:53 AM, James P. Wallen wrote:



On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/22/2010 08:49 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]


I shall now avoid, when possible, computers with Nvidia graphics cards.



Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.



Insofar as my experience goes I'd have to qualify that with a
/sometimes/ they are better...

I've got a couple of fairly high-end Quadro graphics workstation cards
that have given me fits in every distro I've tried. If I used restricted
/ blob / proprietary / whatever drivers -- whether I got them directly
from nvidia or from distro-associated repositories -- the result was
always that bits and pieces of the desktop environment would break from
time-to-time. Trying to use Compiz under Gnome could be a nightmare.


That's one difference between us: I don't use Compiz.


Using the nv drivers has at least always left me with a reliable system,
albeit without much in the way of glitzy special effects.


... because I don't need glitzy special effects.

Are there any non-glitzy benefits to compositors?


Right now I run a bunch of systems with ATI, integrated Intel, and the
Quadro cards in them. I've settled happily into Debian Squeeze with
Xfce. The desktop compositing in Xfce 4.6.1 even works with the nv
drivers -- but very, very slowly. The far cheaper ATI and Intel graphics
subsystems are snappy and responsive with the same environment. If I use
the binary blob nvidia driver, I get fast, snappy -- and unreliable.


Which driver version do you use?


I don't like that. And I don't like nvidia's attitude. I came over to
GNU/Linux because I was tired of feeling that I was being screwed over
in the name of business models and IP. I won't be buying any more nvidia
stuff, either.

Heck, I haven't even installed the non-free firmware to make wireless
work in a couple of these notebooks.



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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Mark Allums wrote:

On 4/23/2010 11:31 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote:

Hi all,



P.S.  Apologies if this question seems too far off-topic for
debian-user.  If there's a better place to ask this question, I'd like
to know that, too.


Virtualbox meets more of your individual criteria than anything else I 
can think of, but the open source edition lacks USB.  I would consider 
the non-OSE version for now, but only if I were prepared to migrate to 
something else, later, depending on what Oracle may choose to to with 
it, now that they own Sun.


Some version of QEMU with KVM will always work, but you definitely need 
the KVM bits, because by itself QEMU is not a speed demon.


I enjoy Xen-like hypervisors from an aesthetics point-of-view, but the 
best ones are not free in any sense.  Microsoft's Hyper-V flat-out costs 
money, and VMware's ESXi comes with too much baggage.  Xen itself is 
still in a state of flux, and though the 2.6.32 kernel version is much 
more stable than previous versions, I wouldn't call it ready for prime 
time.




And I am getting tired of always having to look around for fixes to 
VMware's server whenever you upgrade your kernel, it appears their Linux 
attention leaves something to be desired.


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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Mike Bird wrote:

On Fri April 23 2010 21:13:27 Siju George wrote:

ext3 can have only 32000 files/folders under a folder and I hit that limit.
Which file system can I use to over come it?
I am planning for JFS

Does anybody has any recommendations?


There is no such limit.  ext3 can handle as many files per folder
as you've got space for.

$ mkdir /tmp/foo
$ cd /tmp/foo
$ perl -e 'for ($i=0; $i<5; ++$i) { open(F, ">$i"); close(F); }'
$ ls | wc -l
5
$ mount | grep md1
/dev/md1 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
$ mount | grep /tmp
$ cd
$ rm -rf /tmp/foo



and the proof is in the pudding ;-)

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 01:14 PM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]


I agree.  I do not willingly use non-free software.  I only use it if it's
the only thing that will work.  I might change my mind if the Nouveau
driver gets picked up by X.Org and there's a standard Debian package
for it, and it works reliably.  But for now, no more Nvidia.



And next question is, "Now what?"  ATI?

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 07:31 AM, John Hasler wrote:

Mark Allums writes:

Ah, a matter of taste, then.  (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded,
apparently.)


No.  A matter of support.  Device driver bugs can cause crashes in
apparently unrelated parts of the kernel.


I must not stress my system enough, because even using the nvidia 
driver, my machine is rock stable.



   Thus in order to properly
debug kernel problems it is necessary to have complete source.  When you
install a closed-source driver part of the kernel source is hidden from
the kernel maintainers, thus "tainting" the kernel.  The maintainers
suggest that you ask whoever supplied the closed-source code for support
as only they have complete source for the kernel that you are having
trouble with.


Which is perfectly reasonable...

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Re: Filesystem recommendations

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 12:53 PM, B. Alexander wrote:

Hi,

I have a question on filesystems. Back in the day, I started using
reiser3. It was faster than ext3, and it could be extended without
umounting the filesystem (which has since been fixed in ext3), plus,
unlike any filesystem I have encountered, it could be reduced in size.

Well, now reiser3 is very long in the tooth, reiser4 will probably never
go anywhere, so I'm wondering what filesystems are recommended. Last I
heard, ext4 is stablizing, but it had problems with filesystem
corruption, though that was mid-fall last year, IIRC.

So now, I would like to slowly start replacing my reiser3 partitions
with...something else. There are two options, the old standards, e.g.
ext3/4, xfs, etc, and then there are a slew of new filesystems, such as
nilfs2, btrfs and exofs.

I'm talking about a range of machines, from workstations to servers to
NFS and storage servers with multi-terabyte disks, and a backup server
with several hundred gigs of backups.

Does anyone have suggestions and practical experience with the pros and
cons of the various filesystems?



XFS is the canonical fs for when you have lots of Big Files.  I've 
also seen simple benchmarks on this list showing that it's faster 
than ext3/ext4.


nilfs2, btrfs and exofs are *definitely* still beta or even alpha.

xfs and ext[34] can all be extended.  For production servers with a 
working UPS, I'd go with ext3 for / & /boot and xfs (since it hates 
sudden power outages) for the "/data" directories.  For production 
workstations, I'd stick with the standby ext3 for / & /boot and ext3 
or xfs for /home and "/data" (depending on the workload).


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Re: where is what kontrol did?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

But at what price: hal comes back in again, after I just got rid of it, and
also consolekit, after I just got rid of that too...
I dunno, all for just a sound...



I suppose that depends on how (and why) you got rid of them.

Have you tried installing Pulse Audio, you can control that without
the KDE tools.




Hal and friend got installed because they used to be needed for 
xserver-xorg, but that is no longer true in the latest versions, so I 
just removed them.


But will pulse audio make my Konsole make a sound because that is the 
only reason I would install systemsettings.


Hugo


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Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 20:33:59 +0200, Felix Natter wrote:

> Camaleón writes:
> 
>> What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say?
> 
> /var/log/hibernate* does not exist after a (succesful) resume, although
> this is in common.conf:
> 
> Verbosity 0
> LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log
> LogVerbosity 1
> 
> Any idea?

Yes, you can increase the log verbosity:

Verbosity 4
LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log
LogVerbosity 4

And check that file after suspending/restoring.

But if you already got a success resume, why are you in the need of 
blacklisting modules? :-?

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Why is Acroversion not properly updated?

[Patrick Wiseman]

Every time I update acroread (including mozilla-acroread, the plugin
which displays PDFs), it breaks until I edit
/usr/lib/Adobe/Reader9/Reader/AcroVersion to reflect the current
version (which is noted in the shellscript
/etc/alternatives/acroread).  This should NOT be necessary.  Is it my
problem or do I need to file a bug report?

Patrick


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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Monsieur Louk]

I'll join the "Virtualbox is what you want/need" wagon.

Re: how to setup my environment variable for vim ?

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 11:48 AM, Bernard wrote:
[snip]

You're right : I had done the trial late last night, doing something
else in the meantime, so I'd mixed things up. I just checked again:
/bin/sh is a file. But it contains binary data, at least I suppose so,
since it reads strange characters such as a number of carets and arobase.


What seems to be confusing you is that not all Unix/Linux users use 
bash.  A definite minority use zsh.


The ncftp instructions told you (in, I think, an awkward manner) how 
to set EDITOR if you use bash (or it's predecessor sh).


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Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/24/2010 01:02 PM, Dotan Cohen wrote:

On 24 April 2010 02:38, Ron Johnson  wrote:

On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
[snip]


It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday
user who values stability, and prefers to use released software
version. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Thanks.


"stable with current releases" is a contradiction.  If you want current
releases, run Testing or Unstable.  (Ignore the scary words from the
website.  Testing and Unstable are Stable Enough.)



Thanks, Ron. I don't see the contradiction: I want released software,
no betas or alphas.


Testing/Sid *occasionally* have beta software (you can tell by the 
"-b" in the version number).


Note the word "occasionally".

Mostly, though, since all non-trivial s/w has bugs, Testing and 
Unstable shake out packaging bugs and software bugs is released 
software.



 I am using the word "stable" as in "not crashy
(doesn't fall down)", not in the sense of "doesn't change".

I wondered if Testing or Unstable would provide that.



Yes, absolutely.

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Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

[Johan Grönqvist]

2010-04-24 20:02, Dotan Cohen skrev:


Thanks, Ron. I don't see the contradiction: I want released software,
no betas or alphas. I am using the word "stable" as in "not crashy
(doesn't fall down)", not in the sense of "doesn't change".

I wondered if Testing or Unstable would provide that.


I use debian testing (with a few packages from unstable) because in my 
subjective experience, I have had fewer software problems with that 
solution than with the normal released versions of ubuntu.


(I have used debian and/or ubuntu since at least 2002.)

Regards

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Re: Suspend to Disk + blacklisted module = still trouble

[Felix Natter]

Camaleón  writes:

> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 13:36:29 +0200, Felix Natter wrote:
>
> (...)
>
>> So does this command cause hibernate to read
>> /etc/hibernate/blacklisted-modules, or do I have to add UnloadModules
>> uvcvideo
>> ?

hello,

> What does "/var/log/hibernate.log" say?

/var/log/hibernate* does not exist after a (succesful) resume, although
this is in common.conf:

Verbosity 0
LogFile /var/log/hibernate.log
LogVerbosity 1

Any idea?

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Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Danny]

Hi Christian,

It looks like Vista and Windows 7 people are experiencing the same problem as
you are. If you go to the www.huawei.com forum you will find a bunch of non
linux people have more or less the same problem with communicating with this
modem.

Just a stupid question, can Debian see this modem?
Do the following for a start just to see if Debian can see it :
dmesg | more | grep --color -A1 'dev'

It is a simple command but at least you will see if it is recognised

Danny

On Apr 23 10, Umarzuki Mochlis :
> To: Christian Simo 
> Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:11:41 +0800
> From: Umarzuki Mochlis 
> Subject: Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny
> X-Loop: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> i had done that once and documented it at http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174
> 
> P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
>  
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo  wrote:
> 
> Hi Dear Team
> 
> Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752 on
> Debian Lenny.
> On Suse, I do it easy
> 
> Thanks for your response.
> 
> Christian
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Regards,
> 
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://debmal.my


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The future of "nv" driver

[Stephen Powell]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 10:07:02 -0400 (EDT), James P. Wallen wrote:
> 
> One of the primary reasons I started using GNU/Linux was that I was 
> really tired of being stonewalled when looking for explanations for 
> system functions and malfunctions. Trying to figure out a problem by 
> looking through data that is limited to what the associated proprietary 
> interests think you ought to know is no fun.
> 
> I'd say that it's not a matter of taste so much as a matter of 
> practicality. I wanted control of the systems that hold my data. This is 
> where I found that control.
> 
> And, yeah, I'm tired of vendors who think that they own me. I deal with 
> enough of that crap at work.

I agree.  I do not willingly use non-free software.  I only use it if it's
the only thing that will work.  I might change my mind if the Nouveau
driver gets picked up by X.Org and there's a standard Debian package
for it, and it works reliably.  But for now, no more Nvidia.

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Re: Moving to Debian: updated software

[Dotan Cohen]

On 24 April 2010 02:38, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> On 04/22/2010 03:54 AM, Dotan Cohen wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> It looks to me that Backports is the best for an everyday
>> user who values stability, and prefers to use released software
>> version. Please let me know where I am mistaken. Thanks.
>
> "stable with current releases" is a contradiction.  If you want current
> releases, run Testing or Unstable.  (Ignore the scary words from the
> website.  Testing and Unstable are Stable Enough.)
>

Thanks, Ron. I don't see the contradiction: I want released software,
no betas or alphas. I am using the word "stable" as in "not crashy
(doesn't fall down)", not in the sense of "doesn't change".

I wondered if Testing or Unstable would provide that.


> If you *really want* Stable, though, deinstall iceweseal, icedove,
> openoffice, etc and get their binaries directly from upstream. There's no
> shame in that.  (For OOo, I'd recommend www.go-oo.org; it's Debian's
> upstream.)
>


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Re: where is what kontrol did?

[Dotan Cohen]

> But at what price: hal comes back in again, after I just got rid of it, and
> also consolekit, after I just got rid of that too...
> I dunno, all for just a sound...
>

I suppose that depends on how (and why) you got rid of them.

Have you tried installing Pulse Audio, you can control that without
the KDE tools.


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Filesystem recommendations

[B. Alexander]

Hi,

I have a question on filesystems. Back in the day, I started using reiser3.
It was faster than ext3, and it could be extended without umounting the
filesystem (which has since been fixed in ext3), plus, unlike any filesystem
I have encountered, it could be reduced in size.

Well, now reiser3 is very long in the tooth, reiser4 will probably never go
anywhere, so I'm wondering what filesystems are recommended. Last I heard,
ext4 is stablizing, but it had problems with filesystem corruption, though
that was mid-fall last year, IIRC.

So now, I would like to slowly start replacing my reiser3 partitions
with...something else. There are two options, the old standards, e.g.
ext3/4, xfs, etc, and then there are a slew of new filesystems, such as
nilfs2, btrfs and exofs.

I'm talking about a range of machines, from workstations to servers to NFS
and storage servers with multi-terabyte disks, and a backup server with
several hundred gigs of backups.

Does anyone have suggestions and practical experience with the pros and cons
of the various filesystems?

Thanks,
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Re: USB device attached via RS232 adaptor

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 18:01:56 -0500
Ron Johnson  wrote:

Hello Ron,

> Not only that, but it's definitely not "production ready".  Almost 

I've seen far worse in production equipment.  OTOH, without a case, it
does look far from professional.

Unless, that is, Dotan stripped the unit to take the photograph.

> like someone wire wrapped it.

No wrapping in evidence, to my eye.  The odd wire here and there is
to avoid the cost of double sided boards and plating through.  On a
simple project, it's far easier to just add a wire link, since the price
of making d/s boards can more than double the cost of parts.

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 05:24:14 -0500
Mark Allums  wrote:

Hello Mark,

> I've never understood the use of the word "taint" in this context.

For some people, maintaining a system with FLOSS software is of the
utmost importance.  To them, adding stuff like the Nvidia drivers,
acroread, or any other software that has a non-free EULA would "taint"
their goal.

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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[deloptes]

Christian Simo wrote:

> the problem is, nm-applet or wvdialconf don't detect my modem.
> so i can setting it.
> 

the modem is communicating with the system over a driver. you have to find
out how to setup the modem on system level. This has to be done prior to
get it used by an application like a dialup program as wvdial.

I setup last year two huawei modems and failed to setup one. As people
posted the product/vendor ids are crucial for the system to load the
appropriate setup and as far as I remember not all huawei modems are
supported under linux by the fact that some chipsets are not supported.

good luck

regards



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Re: how to setup my environment variable for vim ?

[Bernard]

Andrei Popescu wrote:

On Sat,24.Apr.10, 11:28:13, Bernard wrote:
  

Hi to Everyone,

I use ncftp' fairly often, and I wish to be able to edit files on
my remote accesses. The ncftp command 'edit' does not operate here,
it says:

"
Setup your Editor environment variable prior to running ncftp
example for /bin/sh:
EDITOR="/usr/bin/vi";export EDITOR
"

But, on my Lenny, I don't have anything relevant at /bin/sh. For
once, /bin/sh is a directory, not a file, and I don't see anything



I really doubt that! /bin/sh should be a symbolic link (symlink) to 
either /bin/bash or /bin/dash (depending on the release you are using).
  
You're right :  I had done the trial late last night, doing something 
else in the meantime, so I'd mixed things up. I just checked again: 
/bin/sh is a file. But it contains binary data, at least I suppose so, 
since it reads strange characters such as a number of carets and arobase.
  

relevant in it. As for /usr/bin/sh, I don't have such a file or
directory



Of course, /bin/sh is needed for the basic operation of your OS, it 
couldn't reside on /usr (which is often a separate partition mounted 
later on).


Try putting this in ~/.bashrc:

export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim
  

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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:58:17 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:

> On Sat April 24 2010 07:30:33 Camaleón wrote:
>> And wasn't *that* the limit the OP was asking about or I misunderstood
>> something? :-?
> 
> OP wrote: "ext3 can have only 32000 files/folders under a folder and I
> hit that limit."
> 
> As I demonstrated, ext3 can have 5 files in a "folder" (directory).
> Or as many more as the filesystem has space for.

I thought the OP was asking about having a bunch of folders under the 
same folder sub-level, but I maybe wrong.

> The 31998 subdirectories limit is rarely encountered because using a
> multi-level directory heirarchy is so much more efficient.

We still lack relevant information about the issue: we don't know why the 
OP was asking for that neither if he reached that limit.

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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Mike Bird]

On Sat April 24 2010 07:30:33 Camaleón wrote:
> And wasn't *that* the limit the OP was asking about or I misunderstood
> something? :-?

OP wrote: "ext3 can have only 32000 files/folders under a folder and I
hit that limit."

As I demonstrated, ext3 can have 5 files in a "folder" (directory).
Or as many more as the filesystem has space for.

The 31998 subdirectories limit is rarely encountered because using a
multi-level directory heirarchy is so much more efficient.

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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 15:24:04 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Saturday 24 April 2010 15:00:37 Camaleón wrote:
>> Well, I admit my English is not the very best it could be, but for sure
>> the OP concern was "32000 files/folders under a folder" and if I read
>>                                 ^^
>> that in a correctly manner, it says something about *folders under a
>> folder*... I hope "subdirectories = folders" is still valid.
> 
> Mea culpa. :-(  I come across the term "folder" so rarely that it barely
> makes it into my passive vocabulary - let alone my active vocabulary.  I
> simply failed to register it at all.  I stand corrected.  I am currently
> standing in a corner with a dunce's cap on. :-(

You can remove that cap and return to your desktop. No offence taken :-)

I know "folder" is very much used in windows environments (and also by 
newbies) and "directory" is a more correct term, widely used by "techies".
 
> Which raises the question of - why the inconsistent results?? ;-)

What "inconsistent results" are you referring to? You mean the divergence 
in the answers the OP is getting? :-?

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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 07:17:22 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:

> On Sat April 24 2010 07:00:37 Camaleón wrote:
>> Well, I admit my English is not the very best it could be, but for sure
>> the OP concern was "32000 files/folders under a folder" and if I read
>> ^^
>> that in a correctly manner, it says something about *folders under a
>> folder*... I hope "subdirectories = folders" is still valid.
> 
> Hi Camaleón,
> 
> In English the slash is understood to mean "or".  

Yes, I know. Also in Spanish :-)

> There is no limit of 32000 files or folders under a folder in ext3.

Uh? :-?
 
> There is a limit of 31998 directories under a directory.  

Uh? :-?

And "directory = folder", isnt't it?

> This is caused by the ext3 hard link count limit being 32000.  Two 
> links are needed for the parent directory entry and the current > 
directory's ".", leaving only
> 31998 links available for ".." links from subdirectories.
> 
> This limit is rarely encountered in practice because it is so much more
> efficient to use multiple directory levels, e.g.:
> 
> parent-
>   a-
> able
> alf
>   b-
> beta
> bravo

And wasn't *that* the limit the OP was asking about or I misunderstood 
something? :-?

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Re: Re: The future of "nv" driver

[James P. Wallen]

On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Mark Allums wrote:

On 4/24/2010 6:26 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-04-24 12:24 +0200, Mark Allums wrote:


I've never understood the use of the word "taint" in this context.


It means the same as "contaminate". The practical consequence is that
nobody will accept bug reports against the kernel if the nvidia module
is loaded.

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/#s1-18
http://kerneltrap.org/node/5616


Ah, a matter of taste, then. (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded,
apparently.)

Sorry, I must respectfully disagree, although I do acknowledge the
practical problem of getting your machine running properly when no one
will read your reports.

MAA


One of the primary reasons I started using GNU/Linux was that I was 
really tired of being stonewalled when looking for explanations for 
system functions and malfunctions. Trying to figure out a problem by 
looking through data that is limited to what the associated proprietary 
interests think you ought to know is no fun.


I'd say that it's not a matter of taste so much as a matter of 
practicality. I wanted control of the systems that hold my data. This is 
where I found that control.


And, yeah, I'm tired of vendors who think that they own me. I deal with 
enough of that crap at work.
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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Lisi]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 15:00:37 Camaleón wrote:
> Well, I admit my English is not the very best it could be, but for sure
> the OP concern was "32000 files/folders under a folder" and if I read
>                                 ^^
> that in a correctly manner, it says something about *folders under a
> folder*... I hope "subdirectories = folders" is still valid.

Mea culpa. :-(  I come across the term "folder" so rarely that it barely makes 
it into my passive vocabulary - let alone my active vocabulary.  I simply 
failed to register it at all.  I stand corrected.  I am currently standing in 
a corner with a dunce's cap on. :-(

Which raises the question of - why the inconsistent results?? ;-)

Lisi


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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Mike Bird]

On Sat April 24 2010 07:00:37 Camaleón wrote:
> Well, I admit my English is not the very best it could be, but for sure
> the OP concern was "32000 files/folders under a folder" and if I read
> ^^
> that in a correctly manner, it says something about *folders under a
> folder*... I hope "subdirectories = folders" is still valid.

Hi Camaleón,

In English the slash is understood to mean "or".  There is no limit of
32000 files or folders under a folder in ext3.

There is a limit of 31998 directories under a directory.  This is caused by
the ext3 hard link count limit being 32000.  Two links are needed for the
parent directory entry and the current directory's ".", leaving only
31998 links available for ".." links from subdirectories.

This limit is rarely encountered in practice because it is so much more
efficient to use multiple directory levels, e.g.:

parent-
  a-
able
alf
  b-
beta
bravo

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Re: Re: The future of "nv" driver (was: Linux compatible mainboards -another thought)

[James P. Wallen]

On 01/-10/-28163 02:59 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 04/22/2010 08:49 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
[snip]


I shall now avoid, when possible, computers with Nvidia graphics cards.



Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.



Insofar as my experience goes I'd have to qualify that with a 
/sometimes/ they are better...


I've got a couple of fairly high-end Quadro graphics workstation cards 
that have given me fits in every distro I've tried. If I used restricted 
/ blob / proprietary / whatever drivers -- whether I got them directly 
from nvidia or from distro-associated repositories -- the result was 
always that bits and pieces of the desktop environment would break from 
time-to-time. Trying to use Compiz under Gnome could be a nightmare.


Using the nv drivers has at least always left me with a reliable system, 
albeit without much in the way of glitzy special effects.


Right now I run a bunch of systems with ATI, integrated Intel, and the 
Quadro cards in them. I've settled happily into Debian Squeeze with 
Xfce. The desktop compositing in Xfce 4.6.1 even works with the nv 
drivers -- but very, very slowly. The far cheaper ATI and Intel graphics 
subsystems are snappy and responsive with the same environment. If I use 
the binary blob nvidia driver, I get fast, snappy -- and unreliable.


I don't like that. And I don't like nvidia's attitude. I came over to 
GNU/Linux because I was tired of feeling that I was being screwed over 
in the name of business models and IP. I won't be buying any more nvidia 
stuff, either.


Heck, I haven't even installed the non-free firmware to make wireless 
work in a couple of these notebooks.
<>

Re: where is what kontrol did?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Dotan Cohen wrote:

On 23 April 2010 21:22, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

Hi,

I don't have KDE installed (fvwm instead) but use Konsole.

That has a warning funcion that shows up with a message 'KDE system
notifications'.

It used to have a sound associated with it and I used to use kontrol 
to set

that up. But kontrol is gone.

How do I get sound back for that notification?

I thought I had asked this question before but I can't find it.

Hugo




In KDE 4 it's System Settings:
$ systemsettings



Aha! Thanks. Let me see if I can get that.



But at what price: hal comes back in again, after I just got rid of it, 
and also consolekit, after I just got rid of that too...

I dunno, all for just a sound...

Hugo


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Re: where is what kontrol did?

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

Dotan Cohen wrote:

On 23 April 2010 21:22, Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

Hi,

I don't have KDE installed (fvwm instead) but use Konsole.

That has a warning funcion that shows up with a message 'KDE system
notifications'.

It used to have a sound associated with it and I used to use kontrol to set
that up. But kontrol is gone.

How do I get sound back for that notification?

I thought I had asked this question before but I can't find it.

Hugo




In KDE 4 it's System Settings:
$ systemsettings



Aha! Thanks. Let me see if I can get that.

Hugo


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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 13:46:45 +0100, Lisi wrote:

> On Saturday 24 April 2010 09:16:46 Camaleón wrote:

>> Note that "The max number of subdirectories in one directory is fixed
>> to 32000."
>>
>> ¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3
> 
> The article to which you link refers to subdirectories.  The OP refers
> to files.  subdirectories != files.

Oh... sure? ;-)
 
> English can be a pain when it is not your first language - and, come to
> that, even if it is. ;-)

Well, I admit my English is not the very best it could be, but for sure 
the OP concern was "32000 files/folders under a folder" and if I read
^^
that in a correctly manner, it says something about *folders under a 
folder*... I hope "subdirectories = folders" is still valid.

:-)

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[John Hasler]

Mark Allums writes:
> Ah, a matter of taste, then.  (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded,
> apparently.)

No.  A matter of support.  Device driver bugs can cause crashes in
apparently unrelated parts of the kernel.  Thus in order to properly
debug kernel problems it is necessary to have complete source.  When you
install a closed-source driver part of the kernel source is hidden from
the kernel maintainers, thus "tainting" the kernel.  The maintainers
suggest that you ask whoever supplied the closed-source code for support
as only they have complete source for the kernel that you are having
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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Lisi]

On Saturday 24 April 2010 09:16:46 Camaleón wrote:
> On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 03:03:57 -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> > On 04/23/2010 11:13 PM, Siju George wrote:
> >> ext3 can have only 32000 files/folders under a folder and I hit that
> >> limit. Which file system can I use to over come it? I am planning for
> >> JFS
> >>
> >> Does anybody has any recommendations?
> >
> > Since Mike Bird has demonstrated your erroneous claim, plz show us the
> > real error message.
>
> Is Wikipedia ext3 article¹ wrong then? :-?
>
> ***
> Limits
>
> Max number of files   Variable, allocated at creation time[1]
>
> [1] The maximum number of inodes (and hence the maximum number of files
> and directories) is set when the file system is created. If V is the
> volume size in bytes, then the default number of inodes is given by V/213
> (or the number of blocks, whichever is less), and the minimum by V/223.
> The default was deemed sufficient for most applications. The max number
> of subdirectories in one directory is fixed to 32000.
> ***
>
> Note that "The max number of subdirectories in one directory is fixed to
> 32000."
>
> ¹ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ext3

The article to which you link refers to subdirectories.  The OP refers to 
files.  subdirectories != files.

English can be a pain when it is not your first language - and, come to that, 
even if it is. ;-)

Lisi


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Re: OT - Backup of HA server on external drive

[Johan Kullstam]

Ivan Marin  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I have to make a backup plan for a server that is physically very far away 
> from
> me right now. If for some reason this server goes south, I have to have a plan
> and it has to be done quickly. The problem is that the personnel that is on
> site doesn't know squat about Linux (or computers, for that matter), so it 
> must
> be something dead simple. I was thinking of getting a spare hard drive, 
> connect
> it to the working server, do a dd of the entire disk to the new disk, and
> disconnect the disk (the people there can swap hard disks). Something like
>
> dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=1024

dd is a nice tool, but it is a bit low level for this type of task.
Linux isn't windows where the latter is picky about being moved around.

Why not format and mount the new disk and use "cp -ax" to shift the
data?  That way the filesystem can lay everything out nicely and your
new disk could be a different size.

> assuming that sda is the working disk and sdb is the new, unformatted and
> unpartitioned disk. So if hte machine breaks, I can get the new disk and put 
> in
> a new machine and everything should work. This server is doing firewall and
> openvpn, etc, no X, no fancy stuff. Is this going to work? What do you guys
> think?
>
> Cheers!
>
> Ivan

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Re: Lite SMTP server/daemon

[d . sastre . medina]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 12:35:55PM +0300, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> msmtp will *not* accept incoming mail (which is what the OP asked for).  
> The solution is probably one of exim or postfix, possibly recompiled to 
> keep only a minimum of features needed for the given application, an 
> answer to Stan's mail will tell more.

Absolutely right. My apologies to the OP.

> P.S. What keyserver are you using, subkeys keeps timing out when mutt 
> requests your key

It happenned to me too with some user's key, so I changed my default
keyserver in ~/.gnupg/gpg.conf to

keyserver x-hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net

Now I get better timings:

$ time -p(gpg --recv-keys 448B31EB)
gpg: solicitando clave 448B31EB de hkp servidor
pool.sks-keyservers.net
gpg: clave 448B31EB: "David Sastre Medina (David)
" sin cambios
gpg: Cantidad total procesada: 1
gpg:  sin cambios: 1
real 0.76
user 0.01
sys 0.00

$ time -p(gpg --recv-keys DEA22DE9)
gpg: solicitando clave DEA22DE9 de hkp servidor
pool.sks-keyservers.net
gpg: clave DEA22DE9: "Andrei Popescu " sin
cambios
gpg: Cantidad total procesada: 1
gpg:  sin cambios: 1
real 0.29
user 0.01
sys 0.00

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Re: The future of "nv" driver (was: Linux compatible mainboards -another thought)

[Jean-François Pirlet]

> The VESA driver is not adequate
> for many users.  If I recall correctly, the VESA driver only makes
> use of video graphics modes supported by the video BIOS.  These video
> modes often cannot exploit the maximum video resolution available on
> many modern LCD displays.

This was the main reason for nVidia to support their "nv" driver :
offering correct user experience (i.e. avoid the Vesa driver) just after
the installation of the OS, and until they install their proprietary
driver for full functionnality.

However, with the state of the (open-source) "Nouveau" driver, there is
no real reason anymore for nVidia to support "nv"...

You might want to read this :
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_kills_nv&num=1


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Re: Lite SMTP server/daemon

[d . sastre . medina]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 04:57:10AM -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> You must have missed this in the OP's post.  It's omitted in your reply
> quote as well:  "Users will send emails to a program running..."
> 
> I take this to mean _remote_ network users.  msmtp-mta is an smtp _CLIENT_
> only.  It will not fit the OP's need.  The OP's comment implies an smtp
> listener is needed.

Hello,

I overlooked that. 
My apologies.

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Mark Allums]

On 4/24/2010 6:26 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

On 2010-04-24 12:24 +0200, Mark Allums wrote:


I've never understood the use of the word "taint" in this context.


It means the same as "contaminate".  The practical consequence is that
nobody will accept bug reports against the kernel if the nvidia module
is loaded.

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/#s1-18
http://kerneltrap.org/node/5616


Ah, a matter of taste, then.  (Debian tastes bad with Nvidia loaded, 
apparently.)


Sorry, I must respectfully disagree, although I do acknowledge the 
practical problem of getting your machine running properly when no one 
will read your reports.


MAA



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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

that means you did not set it up properly. Check the product id and vendor id

On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
> the problem is, nm-applet or wvdialconf don't detect my modem.
> so i can't setting it.
>
> On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
>> the problem is, nm-applet or wvdialconf don't detect my modem.
>> so i can setting it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/24/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
>>> if my memory serves me right, and if you insisted on using nm-applet,
>>> install network manager from squeeze then set the configuration of
>>> your broadband connection accordingly. Refer your ISP manual.
>>>
>>> On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
 Hi

 Please, I  still trying to configure my modem.

 the command wvdialconf can't detect my modem, i don't know if is need
 some package?

 thanks

 On 4/23/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
> i had done that once and documented it at
> http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174
>
> P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
> 
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo 
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dear Team
>>
>> Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752
>> on
>> Debian Lenny.
>> On Suse, I do it easy
>>
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://debmal.my
>

>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Umarzuki Mochlis
>>> http://debmal.my
>>>
>>
>


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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Christian Simo]

the problem is, nm-applet or wvdialconf don't detect my modem.
so i can't setting it.

On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
> the problem is, nm-applet or wvdialconf don't detect my modem.
> so i can setting it.
>
>
> On 4/24/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
>> if my memory serves me right, and if you insisted on using nm-applet,
>> install network manager from squeeze then set the configuration of
>> your broadband connection accordingly. Refer your ISP manual.
>>
>> On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Please, I  still trying to configure my modem.
>>>
>>> the command wvdialconf can't detect my modem, i don't know if is need
>>> some package?
>>>
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> On 4/23/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
 i had done that once and documented it at
 http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174

 P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
 
 On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo 
 wrote:

> Hi Dear Team
>
> Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752
> on
> Debian Lenny.
> On Suse, I do it easy
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> Christian
>



 --
 Regards,

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 http://debmal.my

>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Umarzuki Mochlis
>> http://debmal.my
>>
>


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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Christian Simo]

the problem is, nm-applet or wvdialconf don't detect my modem.
so i can setting it.


On 4/24/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
> if my memory serves me right, and if you insisted on using nm-applet,
> install network manager from squeeze then set the configuration of
> your broadband connection accordingly. Refer your ISP manual.
>
> On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
>> Hi
>>
>> Please, I  still trying to configure my modem.
>>
>> the command wvdialconf can't detect my modem, i don't know if is need
>> some package?
>>
>> thanks
>>
>> On 4/23/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
>>> i had done that once and documented it at
>>> http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174
>>>
>>> P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
>>> 
>>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 Hi Dear Team

 Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752 on
 Debian Lenny.
 On Suse, I do it easy

 Thanks for your response.

 Christian

>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Umarzuki Mochlis
>>> http://debmal.my
>>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://debmal.my
>


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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-04-24 12:24 +0200, Mark Allums wrote:

> On 4/24/2010 5:11 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:
>>> Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.
>>
>> Only the proprietary ones, and not everybody wants to taint their system
>> with these non-free blobs.
>
> I've never understood the use of the word "taint" in this context.

It means the same as "contaminate".  The practical consequence is that
nobody will accept bug reports against the kernel if the nvidia module
is loaded.

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/lkml/#s1-18
http://kerneltrap.org/node/5616

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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

if my memory serves me right, and if you insisted on using nm-applet,
install network manager from squeeze then set the configuration of
your broadband connection accordingly. Refer your ISP manual.

On 4/24/10, Christian Simo  wrote:
> Hi
>
> Please, I  still trying to configure my modem.
>
> the command wvdialconf can't detect my modem, i don't know if is need
> some package?
>
> thanks
>
> On 4/23/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
>> i had done that once and documented it at
>> http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174
>>
>> P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Dear Team
>>>
>>> Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752 on
>>> Debian Lenny.
>>> On Suse, I do it easy
>>>
>>> Thanks for your response.
>>>
>>> Christian
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>>
>> Umarzuki Mochlis
>> http://debmal.my
>>
>


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Re: Problem with me Modem Huawei on Debian Lenny

[Christian Simo]

Hi

Please, I  still trying to configure my modem.

the command wvdialconf can't detect my modem, i don't know if is need
some package?

thanks

On 4/23/10, Umarzuki Mochlis  wrote:
> i had done that once and documented it at http://umarzuki.org/blogku/?p=174
>
> P/S: use google translate to translate from Malay to English
> 
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 11:06 PM, Christian Simo  wrote:
>
>> Hi Dear Team
>>
>> Please, I am new on Debian, so I try to connect my Modem Huawei E1752 on
>> Debian Lenny.
>> On Suse, I do it easy
>>
>> Thanks for your response.
>>
>> Christian
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
>
> Umarzuki Mochlis
> http://debmal.my
>


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Re: overcoming the 32k objects limit is ext3 - which file system to use?

[Paul (KC9EYE)]

On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 09:43:27AM +0530, Siju George wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> ext3 can have only 32000 files/folders under a folder and I hit that limit.
> Which file system can I use to over come it?
> I am planning for JFS
> 
> Does anybody has any recommendations?

You are stating that you believe there to be a 32000 number limit for files per 
folder using the ext3 filesystem. One user has demonstrated that there is no 
limit to file creation other than storage space to hold those files. This is 
of coarse under 1 directory. However, other references have been given to an
article stating that there is a limit to the amount of directories that an 
ext3 filesystem is capable of supporting.
As another user has stated, is there a specific error or problem you can post
to make your question more clear. Have you reached the limit of directories?
Perhaps then you should consider another organizational tool for the data. 

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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Mark Allums]

On 4/24/2010 5:11 AM, Sven Joachim wrote:

Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.


Only the proprietary ones, and not everybody wants to taint their system
with these non-free blobs.


I've never understood the use of the word "taint" in this context.

[Possibly private] Explanation?

MAA


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Re: The future of "nv" driver

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-04-24 01:18 +0200, Ron Johnson wrote:

> On 04/22/2010 08:49 AM, Stephen Powell wrote:
> [snip]
>>
>> I shall now avoid, when possible, computers with Nvidia graphics cards.
>>
>
> Except that Nvidia's drivers are still *much* better than ATI's drivers.

Only the proprietary ones, and not everybody wants to taint their system
with these non-free blobs.

Sven


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Re: Lite SMTP server/daemon

[Stan Hoeppner]

d.sastre.med...@gmail.com put forth on 4/24/2010 3:51 AM:
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 09:19:56AM +0200, exp...@hope.cz wrote:
>>I use Linux running in  Compact Flash so that the size of the Compact
>>flash memory is the limit
>>Only SMTP, no POP3 server
>>Can you suggest something?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This simple search:
> 
> $ apt-cache search mta light
> 
> showed some exim4 packages and the one you are looking for:
> 
> $ apt-cache show msmtp-mta
> Package: msmtp-mta

You must have missed this in the OP's post.  It's omitted in your reply
quote as well:  "Users will send emails to a program running..."

I take this to mean _remote_ network users.  msmtp-mta is an smtp _CLIENT_
only.  It will not fit the OP's need.  The OP's comment implies an smtp
listener is needed.

From: http://msmtp.sourceforge.net/doc/msmtp.html#Configuration-files

"1 Introduction

msmtp is an SMTP client.

In its default mode of operation, it reads a mail from standard input and
sends it to a predefined SMTP server that takes care of proper delivery.
Command line options and exit codes are compatible to sendmail."

It seems clear that the OP is going to need an smtp mta with pipe or local
delivery capability.  Which one will depend on the answers to the questions
in my previous post.

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Re: Lite SMTP server/daemon

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat,24.Apr.10, 10:51:56, d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 09:19:56AM +0200, exp...@hope.cz wrote:
> >I use Linux running in  Compact Flash so that the size of the Compact
> >flash memory is the limit
> >Only SMTP, no POP3 server
> >Can you suggest something?
> 
> Hello,
> 
> This simple search:
> 
> $ apt-cache search mta light
> 
> showed some exim4 packages and the one you are looking for:
> 
> $ apt-cache show msmtp-mta
...
>  msmtp is an SMTP client that can be used to send mails from Mutt and
> probably
>  other MUAs (mail user agents). It forwards mails to an SMTP server
> (for
>  example at a free mail provider), which takes care of the final
> delivery.
...

msmtp will *not* accept incoming mail (which is what the OP asked for).  

The solution is probably one of exim or postfix, possibly recompiled to 
keep only a minimum of features needed for the given application, an 
answer to Stan's mail will tell more.

Regards,
Andrei
P.S. What keyserver are you using, subkeys keeps timing out when mutt 
requests your key
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Re: a submission

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,23.Apr.10, 10:02:12, Jordan Metzmeier wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 9:12 AM, IAN DELANEY  wrote:
> > I think this version of reportbug doesn't get to submit the bug.  Can you
> > take this as a bug and post it please.
> 
> Assuming you mean that it did not send the email, are you sure your
> system's MTA is properly configured?

An MTA is not even necessary:

,[ ~/.reportbugrc ]
| smtphost reportbug.debian.org
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Re: how to setup my environment variable for vim ?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Sat,24.Apr.10, 11:28:13, Bernard wrote:
> Hi to Everyone,
> 
> I use ncftp' fairly often, and I wish to be able to edit files on
> my remote accesses. The ncftp command 'edit' does not operate here,
> it says:
> 
> "
> Setup your Editor environment variable prior to running ncftp
> example for /bin/sh:
> EDITOR="/usr/bin/vi";export EDITOR
> "
> 
> But, on my Lenny, I don't have anything relevant at /bin/sh. For
> once, /bin/sh is a directory, not a file, and I don't see anything

I really doubt that! /bin/sh should be a symbolic link (symlink) to 
either /bin/bash or /bin/dash (depending on the release you are using).

> relevant in it. As for /usr/bin/sh, I don't have such a file or
> directory

Of course, /bin/sh is needed for the basic operation of your OS, it 
couldn't reside on /usr (which is often a separate partition mounted 
later on).

Try putting this in ~/.bashrc:

export EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim

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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,23.Apr.10, 09:31:45, Richard Lawrence wrote:
> 
> I am looking to run some virtual machines for personal use: I'd like
... 
> I value:
> - free over non-free
> - ease of use and good documentation over performance
> - installation via apt and reasonable default configuration
> - simple networking on commodity hardware
> - other basic integration with host OS services (perhaps file sharing,
> USB, printing)

Except for USB the package virtualbox-ose in Debian will meet all your 
requirements. (OSE stands for Open Source Edition)

If USB is a must you can use the repos from Sun (the USB stuff is 
non-free).

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how to setup my environment variable for vim ?

[Bernard]

Hi to Everyone,

I use 'ncftp' fairly often, and I wish to be able to edit files on my 
remote accesses. The ncftp command 'edit' does not operate here, it says:


"
Setup your Editor environment variable prior to running ncftp
example for /bin/sh:
EDITOR="/usr/bin/vi";export EDITOR
"

But, on my Lenny, I don't have anything relevant at /bin/sh. For once, 
/bin/sh is a directory, not a file, and I don't see anything relevant in 
it. As for /usr/bin/sh, I don't have such a file or directory


Thanks in advance for your advices.



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Re: Lite SMTP server/daemon

[Stan Hoeppner]

exp...@hope.cz put forth on 4/24/2010 2:19 AM:
> 
> Hi Celejar,
> Thank you for your reply.
> I use Linux running in Compact Flash so that the size of the Compact flash 
> memory is the limit
> Users will send emails to a program running in the Compact flash so I need a 
> mail server there too.
> Only SMTP, no POP3 server
> Can you suggest something?

We need many more details before making a proper recommendation:

1.  The "program" you mention picks up mail via a pipe or a file?  If via
file, does the program expect mbox format or maildir format?  If neither,
does the "program" speak smtp?  If so, why are you asking your question?
Just bind the program to tcp 25.

2.  Storage capacity of the flash device and amount of free space?  Do you
already have the perl package installed?

3.  Have you ever configured an smtp mta before?  If yes, which one(s)?

After you provide these answers we should be able to give you the exact
solution you need, if it is physically possible given your storage constraints.

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Re: Kernel (de)bug information sent, even if there is no connection

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Apr 2010 09:44:46 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> When my Lenny (w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem) encounters a kernel error, a
> box pops, and I am asked if I want to report the (de)bug information.

Yes, that's "kerneloops" daemon :-)
 
> 1. Why can't I specify somewhere that I always want to report this info?
> Such boxes are annoying

Yes, you can.

/etc/kerneloops.conf

# Set the following variable to "yes" if you want to automatically
# submit your oopses to the database for use by your distribution or the
# Linux kernel developers

allow-submit = ask

Set that to "yes".

> 2. If I am not connected to the Internet, the (de)bug info is marked as
> `sent' after having chosen a button which allows the reporting tool to
> send data over the Internet. Why?

My guess is that kerneloops daemon just says "sent" when you click in 
"yes" submit button but cannot address if the user is online or not.

I dunno what method uses kerneloops to send the data (e-mail?). If sends 
the info by e-mail, you could check Exim's queue by being root and 
issuing "mailq" command.

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Re: VM software for personal use?

[Mark Allums]

On 4/23/2010 11:31 AM, Richard Lawrence wrote:

Hi all,



P.S.  Apologies if this question seems too far off-topic for
debian-user.  If there's a better place to ask this question, I'd like
to know that, too.


Virtualbox meets more of your individual criteria than anything else I 
can think of, but the open source edition lacks USB.  I would consider 
the non-OSE version for now, but only if I were prepared to migrate to 
something else, later, depending on what Oracle may choose to to with 
it, now that they own Sun.


Some version of QEMU with KVM will always work, but you definitely need 
the KVM bits, because by itself QEMU is not a speed demon.


I enjoy Xen-like hypervisors from an aesthetics point-of-view, but the 
best ones are not free in any sense.  Microsoft's Hyper-V flat-out costs 
money, and VMware's ESXi comes with too much baggage.  Xen itself is 
still in a state of flux, and though the 2.6.32 kernel version is much 
more stable than previous versions, I wouldn't call it ready for prime 
time.



Good Luck

MAA


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Re: SMTP-Error 451 while using smarthost for mail delivery

[deloptes]

b1 wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 17:28 +, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Thu, 22 Apr 2010 16:20:01 +0200, b1 wrote:
>> 
>> > Currently I am trying to set up a Debian Lenny Server, but I am stuck
>> > at mail delivery. The server I am trying to set up, has no FQDN, so I
>> > used my ISP-Mailserver as a smarthost (I enabled the proper SMTP
>> > authentication in exim4).
>> > This setup worked a few days, before I suddenly received 451 errors. At
>> > first I thought it to be a problem with Exim4, so I switched to
>> > postfix. But postfix also gives me the 451 error:
>> > 
>> > Apr 22 15:53:31 openshoolproxy postfix/smtp[24368]: 413CF26EF9:
>> > to=, orig_to=,
>> > relay=smtp.strato.com[81.169.145.132]:25, delay=2137,
>> > delays=2136/0.05/0.33/0.12, dsn=4.0.0, status=deferred (host
>> > smtp.strato.com[81.169.145.132] said: 451 Local Error (in reply to end
>> > of DATA command))
>> 
>> Mmm, the remote server (81.169.145.132) has encountered some kind of
>> error while sending "data" command.
>> 
>> But, are you in control of Strato's server? If no, then you can only
>> contact them and request more info about this error. If the problem is on
>> their side, you can only "guess".
>>  
>> (...)
>> 
>> > telnet smtp.strato.de 25
>> > Trying 81.169.145.133...
>> > Connected to smtp.strato.de.
>> > Escape character is '^]'.
>> > 220 smtp.passthru
>>   ^
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> > 451 Local Error
>> 
>> Look that "smtp.passthru" string, it seems some kind of proxy/redirector
>> service.
>> 
>> > Very odd. After this fail I tried the same procedure from my arch linux
>> > box at home. It succeeded:
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > 
>> > telnet smtp.strato.com 25
>> > Trying 81.169.145.132...
>> > Connected to smtp.strato.com.
>> > Escape character is '^]'.
>> > 220 post.strato.de [fruni mo3] ESMTP RZmta 23.0 ready; Thu, 22 Apr 2010
>> > 15:55:55 +0200 (MEST)
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> > 250 queued as g0718am3MD7AJw
>> 
>> That server response looks more "normal". No proxy between you and smtp
>> server.
>> 
>> (...)
>> 
>> If available, try to send an e-mail using a secure channel (SSL/TLS
>> 465/587 port) and check if that works. The idea behind this is to bypass
>> the proxy server on their side altough I'm not sure this will work :-/
>> 
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> --
>> Camaleón
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Hey thanks camaleon
> 
> You pointed me at the right direction with your passthru hint. We had a
> proxy on our net, through which the smtp-messages were going. This proxy
> had a virus scanner, which caused the problem. After disabling the
> scanner everything works fine.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> Benedikt
> 
> 
> 

if you have been using amavis or am,amavis+clamav be aware that support for
older clamav was thrown away, so it's not working very well. It was
blocking my email for some time.

regards


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Re: Cyrus 2.2 imapd in AMD64

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 16:18:31 -0300, Carlos Bergero wrote:

> Sorry forget to copy it
> tlsprune is disable now so it doesnt lock the start up of the cyrus

Next time use an online service (such Pastebin) to put the data and send 
a link ;-)

(...)

> Both are mostly standar files.

Yep, I see nothing strange in there.

I would start Cyrus setup and user migration from scratch to avoid any 
incompatibility between the old installation and the new.

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