Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

On 10 May 2010 09:55, Mihamina Rakotomandimby  wrote:
> If that is your task, I tink you'd better skip those non-contructive
> comments.
> There is a lot of constructive ones, that you can care about.
>

You are right, and I should know better than to feed the trolls.
However, when the trolls accuse me then for some reason I feel the
need to defend myself.


> Anyway, I dont know what are your obligations, but in a community
> driven project, I would behave that way.
>

No obligations! I work on KDE because I like it.


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

> Dotan Cohen  :
> I expect you to dislike KDE 4, as it does not suit your needs! That is
> quite why I ask what your problems are, so that I might fix them.

If that is your task, I tink you'd better skip those non-contructive
comments.
There is a lot of constructive ones, that you can care about.

Anyway, I dont know what are your obligations, but in a community
driven project, I would behave that way.

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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

On 10 May 2010 09:46, Lisi  wrote:
>> Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you
>> haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends
>> messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed.
>> I apologize for sending to you "commands" in your personal folder to
>> tell me what is wrong with KDE 4 for you so that I might fix it. Fell
>> free to just plonk me away, I take no offence.
>
> So how come that your most offensive email was _not_ sent to this list, but to
> the KDE list?  You clearly have some control over the behaviour of your email
> client.
>
>

I usually simply hit Reply All, as that ensures that the message will
at a minimum go to the list no matter which list I'm posting on. If I
know to which letter you were referring, I might be able to answer you
with more detail. As I don't know to which letter you refer, then we
can assume that the Reply-To headers of the message had that list.
Only now am I delibertely changing the CC of the message, as you
requested not to CC you. Otherwise, my choices are Reply (only to
lisi.re...@~) or to Reply All (to lisi.re...@~ and to debian-u...@~)
so you see that I _cannot_ reply to the list without replying to you
if I do not manually edit the CC list.

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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

On 9 May 2010 19:06, Mike Bird  wrote:
> On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
>> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
>
> That is factually incorrect.  Dotan has replied to me+list
> on several occasions without permission.

I did not know that I needed your permission to reply to you.


> From the comments
> here I believe he annoys others similarly.
>

I apologize for annoying you with questions about what does not work
for you in KDE. Feel free to file your own bugs, to live with the
problems, or to find a suitable replacement. I mean that sincerely, no
hard feelings. There are lots of good DEs around, we are in a golden
era of Linux desktop development.


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Lisi]

On Monday 10 May 2010 07:25:42 Dotan Cohen wrote:
> > :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only
> > : to
> >
> > the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these
> > commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.
> >  I filter for a reason!
>
> Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you
> haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends
> messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed.
> I apologize for sending to you "commands" in your personal folder to
> tell me what is wrong with KDE 4 for you so that I might fix it. Fell
> free to just plonk me away, I take no offence.

So how come that your most offensive email was _not_ sent to this list, but to 
the KDE list?  You clearly have some control over the behaviour of your email 
client.


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

On 9 May 2010 18:02, Lisi  wrote:
> I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to you
> if you were to ask me to do so.  But list policy is to stay on list unless
> requested to do otherwise. ;-)
>
> The last one in particular was personal, rude and unpleasant.  He is not
> simply
> 
>> collecting issues with KDE4 and filing the
>> to the devs.
>
> He is doing that, but in addition he is bullying people most unpleasantly if
> they do not do his bidding.  I do not use KDE 4 and have no wish to do so.
>

Please quote where I "bullied" you.


> The only thing I could have done differently (other than not send that very
> short and mild complaint) is bow down to Dotan and agree that I have no right
> to dislike KDE 4, because he does not find my reasons valid.  I tried to end
> this by simply not replying, but even that did not rescue me - he sent
> another email, to which I again did not reply.  What more could I do, other
> than be very rude myself, to make him go away?
>

I expect you to dislike KDE 4, as it does not suit your needs! That is
quite why I ask what your problems are, so that I might fix them. I
have never disputed your reasons, rather, I agree that your reasons
are valid and are cause for concern. The only thing that I disagreed
with you was on default settings of composting, and even in that
context I offered to personally design a KDE default configuration for
you that you could have composting disabled  before loading KDE for
the first time. Rude? Unpleasant? I bend over backwards to help you.


> I do not have to give him reasons for my dislike.  I dislike KDE 4 and do not
> use it.  That is surely my right?  I dislike fennel.  No-one tries to
> force-feed me with it!
>

I clearly stated that my intention is not to try to convince you to
use KDE 4, rather, that my intention is to learn about the problems
that you have with KDE 4 so that I might fix them. You don't have to
help me fix KDE 4, but it is only to your own benefit to do so.
Contributors of what other software have asked you personally about
your problems with the software?


> And surely I have no duty to help Dotan in his single minded ambition to
> impose KDE 4 on all the world?  Many of us do not use it.  Several people
> have been very helpful in sending me comments (_on_ list) on other
> possibilities.
>
> If he is truly doing what he is doing from altruistic motives, then surely he
> must only "help" (help) those who want his help, not bully those who
> don't.
>

No problem, I won't help you any more. You never expressed your desire
that I might not communicate with you, other than complaining that I
do. I get the point, don't worry, I won't ask you about KDE 4 any
more.


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Re: libgdk-x11 symbol lookup error

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-05-10 03:37 +0200, Don wrote:

> Back in March, I suddenly starting having problems with the startup of
> certain programs I regularly use (date around March 14).  The programs
> I believe all use GTK and the error message is the same.  Some of the
> applications are: iceape, synaptic, and geany.
>
> Here are the results when I try running them from the command line:
>
> d...@kali:~$ sudo synaptic
> synaptic: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined
> symbol: g_malloc_n

You probably have an outdated library somewhere.  Please show the output
of "ldd /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0".

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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

On 9 May 2010 17:00, Lisi  wrote:
> I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant
> emails direct to me.

What "long, rude, unpleasant emails" have I sent to you? Go ahead,
post everything that I've ever sent to you here. I've sent mails only
as long as the demands of your comments have warranted, filled only
with questions about what is broken for you in KDE 4 and links to bugs
on those very subjects. Rude or unpleasant? I think that you have me
mistaken. I'll give to you the benefit of the doubt, publish something
that you think I wrote to you which is rude or unpleasant.


> That is what I am complaining about.  As I said above,
> *I* have been getting them from Dotan, as you correctly state:  "*Lisi*
> shreef . *I* have been getting them."  According to list policy I should
> not be getting them.  In addition, the last one was sent to the KDE list (to
> which I do not subscribe) and not to this, which is the list with the thread.
>
> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the last
> one) before complaining about my complaint.
>

Which messages exactly? "last two" is hard to identify given the
dynamic nature of this list.


> And my crime??  For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected to
> the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me?  I use KDE 3, but do not
> intend to use KDE 4.
>

All I did was ask about what issues you have with KDE 4 so that I
might fix them. You don't have to appreciate that, but I do not expect
you to turn it around and call that "rude and unpleasant". Maybe you
don't like KDE contributors taking an interest in your problems with
the software. Many other people do.


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Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

> Lisi  :
> I do not have to give him reasons for my dislike. 

Your mind really suites proprietary softwares.

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Re: OOwriter always hangs, and then quits unexpectedly when images are copied (copy/paste) from a website

[Merciadri Luca]

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Ron Johnson  writes:

> On 05/09/2010 03:49 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>> Ron Johnson wrote:
>>> I just opened a new Writer 3.2.0-9+b1 document then selected the
>>> "title image" http://i.space.com/images/080702-voyager-01.jpg from
>>> http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/nasa-tracking-voyager2-problem-100506.html
>>> and pasted it into the document.
>> I am using OO 2.4.1.
>
> That's *really* old.  If you run Stable, then you should deinstall it
> and get binaries from http://www.go-oo.org
Ok. I will do it. Would it be that?

>>   Take for example
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California.
>
> Still works, although OOo doesn't seem to know how to handle svg
> documents.
Lucky you, but it must be because of the version. Note that it does
not _always_ hang here, that's purely random.
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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

> where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 edit>
> copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?
>

In KDE 4.4.2 I have Edit -> Copy in both Dolphin and in Konqueror. Can
you send to me a screenshot of your Edit menu? What KDE version?

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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

> :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to
> the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these
> commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.  I
> filter for a reason!
>

Sorry for CCing to you messages that are meant for you, Lisi. If you
haven't noticed the mailing list headers are broken and Reply sends
messages off list. Therefore I use Reply All and oh nos, you get CCed.
I apologize for sending to you "commands" in your personal folder to
tell me what is wrong with KDE 4 for you so that I might fix it. Fell
free to just plonk me away, I take no offence.


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Dotan Cohen]

On 8 May 2010 22:35, consul tores  wrote:
> 2010/5/8 Dotan Cohen :
>> On 8 May 2010 15:32, consul tores  wrote:
>>> the windows are absolutely useless, i can not
>>> use many, they have all kind of useless information;
>
>> What useless information? I'd like to fix that if you will be more specific.
>
> Who are you figuring out you are, man?
>

A KDE contributor who is trying to help make KDE suitable for you. If
you do not appreciate that then I can just buzz right off, no hard
feelings.


>>> the menu, needs 3
>>> times more clicks than 3.5;
>
>> Can you be more specific? Are you referring to Kmenu?
>
> If this were a kde list, i could take you seriously, but it is not!
>

The go ahead and post to k...@mail.kde.org or
debian-...@lists.debian.org, I'm subscribed to both.


>>> the time to be ready to use is 5
>>> times than 3.5;
>
>> Do you mean the load time of the desktop? I do agree that it takes a
>> long time (and the starting Akonaki takes even longer!), but I do not
>> remember KDE 3 starting so fast either. The new Gnome starts in
>> seconds!
>
> As i said before! This is a Debian list!

Wow, sorry for trying to help.


>>> In my case, kde 4.x indicate me when is time to change Desktop, i am
>>> going to stay with 3.5 still support finish, and then to test others
>>> desktops which follow the kiss principle. Jo, Jo, Jo.
>
>> When you do that, please mail me (privately or on list with CC to me
>> privately) to let me know what features other desktops have that you
>> like. I'd like to incorporate them into KDE. Thanks. I highly
>> recommend testing Gnome Shell, which will be Gnome 3. A lot of people
>> are very happy with it. Ion and Enlightenment are popular too, each
>> for their own reasons. XFCE and the boxen might be a little lacking if
>> you are used to KDE 3.
>>
>> --
>> Dotan Cohen
>
> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your 
> orders?
>

Orders? I asked what problems you have, so that I can fix them. You
don't even have to file a bug, I was willing to do that for you. Go
look at the bugs that I've posted in reply to other peoples' issues.
Go look at who is filing them. Oh, sorry, you might take that as an
order and get offended.


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Re: How to schedule for a repeated task?

[hadi motamedi]

> regexp in the expected patterns. Try the simplest expect script, i.e, one
> that only logs in and logs out.
>
>
> Thank you very much for your reply. I got help from your comment regarding
try for a simple script that just logs in and logs out. I tried for it and I
saw that it does not require hitting Ctrl-C at the end. Then I tried for the
real script and with comparing them with each other I modified my script and
it now works well.
Thank you again

Re: Epiphany browser continues to get worse and worse

[Mihamina Rakotomandimby]

> Stephen Powell  :
> Why did they switch from gecko to webkit anyway?  It was working so
> well.

I use Epiphany because they switched to Webkit.
On Ubuntu Lucid, it's working very well, I even use it to play youtube
HTML5 videos.

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Re: smbd not start after upgrade lenny9

[Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta]

Somebody say this...

http://us.generation-nt.com/samba-smbd-crashes-debian-lenny-using-debian-help-196079541.html

But If it is a debian bug?

Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta wrote:





Subject:
smbd will not start
From:
Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta 
Date:
Sun, 09 May 2010 23:17:44 -0430
To:
sa...@lists.samba.org

To:
sa...@lists.samba.org


Hi,

I'm facing the same problem of bill as described in:

http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2010-April/154975.html

But in my case I have the same version of samba and libs:

# dpkg -l | egrep "samba|libwb"

ii  libcrypt-smbhash-perl0.12-2 
generate LM/NT hash of a password for samba
ii  libwbclient0 2:3.2.5-4lenny9
client library for interfacing with winbind service
ii  samba2:3.2.5-4lenny9a 
LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix
ii  samba-common 2:3.2.5-4lenny9
Samba common files used by both the server and the client


Any idea?



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smbd not start after upgrade lenny9

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Hi,

I'm facing the same problem of bill as described in:

http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/2010-April/154975.html

But in my case I have the same version of samba and libs:

# dpkg -l | egrep "samba|libwb"

ii  libcrypt-smbhash-perl0.12-2 
generate LM/NT hash of a password for samba
ii  libwbclient0 2:3.2.5-4lenny9
client library for interfacing with winbind service
ii  samba2:3.2.5-4lenny9a 
LanManager-like file and printer server for Unix
ii  samba-common 2:3.2.5-4lenny9
Samba common files used by both the server and the client


Any idea?

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notification bar

[Linda Castanos]

I'm new to Debian.  (x ubuntu user).
I have installed Debian 5.0 
The notification bar has not let me know of any automatic updates; where
as, Synaptic Manager, I can see updates.

How come the notification bar doesn't alert me? 
Linda



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Problem with ALC662 Intel HDA

[Leonardo Meira]

Hello everybody,

I have a problem with my sound card (nVidia Corporation MCP67 High
Definition Audio | ALC662 High Definition Audio) and I would like you to
indicate the best location and the best way for me to report the bug that I
will describe:

After a fresh installation and setup of alsa, I only have sound in one of
two outputs and the microphone does not work. After reading a lot of
documentation about the subject, I found that inserting the line "options
snd-hda-intel model = 3stack 6ch-index = 0" in alsa-base.conf file I can
make my sound card work better, but with some problems, which are:

a) If I select the 6-channel mode (in kmix or alsa-mixer), the two sound
outputs work but the microphone do not work.
b) If I select the 2-channel mode (in kmix or alsa-mixer), the microphone
works but only one sound output works.

You do not agree with me that this is a bug? I've been experiencing it in
different distributions and several versions of the Linux kernel. As in
several versions of ALSA.

Before you ask me, yes, I've tried all the options associated with ALC662
codec (
http://www.mjmwired.net/kernel/Documentation/sound/alsa/HD-Audio-Models.txt)
and the option mentioned above was that worked best.


 I am a novice user of Linux. So I ask you for help. How could I help solve
this problem? What is the right place to report this bug?

Thanks,

Motherboard: ASUS M2N68-AM SE
Debian Lenny
Squeeze Debian / Sid

libgdk-x11 symbol lookup error

[Don]

Back in March, I suddenly starting having problems with the startup of 
certain programs I regularly use (date around March 14).  The programs I 
believe all use GTK and the error message is the same.  Some of the 
applications are: iceape, synaptic, and geany.


Here are the results when I try running them from the command line:

d...@kali:~$ sudo synaptic
synaptic: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined
symbol: g_malloc_n
d...@kali:~$ iceape
/usr/lib/iceape/iceape-bin: symbol lookup error:
/usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_malloc_n
d...@kali:~$ geany
geany: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined
symbol: g_malloc_n
d...@kali:~$

When looking for /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0, I find a link to:
libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0.2000.0, a size 609700 file which is present in the 
/usr/lib directory.


Using 2.6.32-3-686 #1 SMP with squeeze/sid.  I do the apt-get update and 
upgrade periodically.


Never a problem like this previous to mid-March or so (cannot pinpoint 
date as I was out of circulation in hospital for a week late March and 
just getting around to finding a solution).


Any help appreciated -- knowledgeable enough to be dangerous, so even 
though I'm not a newbie, don't assume I'm an expert.  I may have done 
some dumb thing to cause this as I don't see anyone else having this 
problem.  Let me know what other information is needed.


Regards,
Don


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Re: Vnc server

[Anand Sivaram]

On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 00:56, Andrew Lapham  wrote:

> Hello all.
>
> I'm new to debian (2 days) but have been using Linux for a while. Anyway my
> problem is with Vnc4server.
>
> Yesterday I set up my /home/.Vnc/xstartup to include gnome session and I
> commented terminal emulator. And I remoted in no problem (I forget if I used
> vnvserver or Vnc4server)
>
> Today I turned on the pc and ran the server and all I get is a grey screen
> and a mouse. I tried vncserver and Vnc4server. Any ideas?
>
> (Sorry for the case/spelling errors this was composed on my phone..)
>

Post your xstartup

Re: Shutdown problem -- cron job related?

[Anand Sivaram]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 18:42, David Baron  wrote:

> >> At certain times, seems Friday noontime, I am unable to shutdown the
> >> system. Instead of the usual scripts to killing all processes,
> unmounting
> >> everything and will now halt, goodby, I get:
> >>
> >>  process running pstree (or something like that)
> >>  shutdown aborted
> >>
> >>  At this point, the system (or at least any console or UI) is dead.
> >>
> >>  What it this?
>
>
> > Just see which process is running pstree.
> > "ps -eaf | grep pstree"
> > You could find the parent pid of pstree (second column).
> > Look at the parent of pstree, and the process started this one.
> > If you go back that way, finally you will reach init, but before that you
> > could find which system process started these processes.
> I'll have to try it when I know the thing is running.
>
> > As I recall, pstree is not part of basic installation.
> > It was put to do some scripting, regarding found, in
> > perl/python?
> > My first bet would be to remove offensive cron line and
> > shutdown normally. Than to do filesystem checks. Next,
> > to set cron to use pstree as a regular user. I think that
> > shutdown was done in some parts, aka closed network. What
> > has to wait, hangs the system.
> > Otherwise, there is a chance that some housekeeping pro-
> > cesses are started at noon every day. You could always
> > look at /etc directory and find them. Some unices have
> > it in /etc/periodic/daily. It starts with #!/bin/sh.
> > Another clue may be in /var/log, as a result of newsyslog.conf.
>
> I have no /etc/periodic and no logs for pstree
>
> I manually ran it (x11 variant) and this is what I got:
> init-+-Xprt
> |-akonadi_control-+-akonadi_ical_re
> | |-8*[akonadi_kabc_re]
> | |-4*[akonadi_kcal_re]
> | |-42*[akonadi_maildir]
> | |-akonadi_maildis
> | |-akonadi_nepomuk---{akonadi_nepomu}
> | |-akonadi_vcard_r
> | |-akonadiserver-+-mysqld---74*[{mysqld}]
> | |   `-66*[{akonadiserver}]
> | `-4*[{akonadi_contro}]
> |-apmd
> |-atd
> |-avahi-daemon---avahi-daemon
> |-boinc
> |-clamd---2*[{clamd}]
> |-console-kit-dae---63*[{console-kit-da}]
> |-cron
> |-cupsd
> |-das_watchdog---{das_watchdog}
> |-3*[dbus-daemon]
> |-2*[dbus-launch]
> |-ddclient
> |-dirmngr
> |-dovecot-+-2*[dovecot-auth]
> | |-imap
> | |-3*[imap-login]
> | `-3*[pop3-login]
> |-exim4
> |-fail2ban-server---6*[{fail2ban-serve}]
> |-fetchmail
> |-2*[getty]
> |-gpm
> |-hald-+-hald-runner-+-hald-addon-inpu
> |  | `-hald-addon-stor
> |  `-{hald}
> |-in.tftpd
> |-inetd
> |-jackdbus
> |-kaccess
> |-kded4---{kded4}
> |-kdeinit4-+-kio_file
> |  |-kio_http_cache_
> |  |-kio_imap4
> |  |-klauncher
> |  |-ksmserver-+-kwin
> |  |   `-{ksmserver}
> |  |-python---python---python
> |  `-qjackctl---{qjackctl}
> |-kdm-+-Xorg
> | `-kdm---startkde-+-kwrapper4
> |  `-2*[ssh-agent]
> |-kget
> |-kglobalaccel
> |-klipper
> |-klogd
> |-kmail---{kmail}
> |-kmix
> |-knemo
> |-knotify4
> |-korgac---{korgac}
> |-krunner---{krunner}
> |-kxkb---{kxkb}
> |-nepomukserver
> |-plasma-desktop-+-ksysguardd
> |`-7*[{plasma-desktop}]
> |-portmap
> |-postmaster-+-postmaster
> |`-postmaster---postmaster
> |-preload
> |-proftpd
> |-rpc.mountd
> |-rpc.statd
> |-smartd
> |-spamd---2*[spamd]
> |-sshd
> |-svscanboot-+-readproctitle
> |`-svscan
> |-syslogd
> |-tinyproxy---11*[tinyproxy]
> |-udevd---2*[udevd]
> |-xfs
> |-xfstt
> `-yakuake-+-bash---pstree.x11
>   `-{yakuake}
> Press return to close
>
> Which would basically reflect what init ran and what kde4 is doing when I
> did
> it. Why would this be stuck at the end?
>
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pstree is used to list a tree of processes and it should not take much time.
I think your problem is arising from the originator of pstree.  Have you
tried using "top" to see any other process is taking cpu/memory?  Also take
a look
at all cron related directories and files, all files in /etc/cron.dailly,
/etc/crontab

Re: Re: Password messed up

[Don]

  Coming in late to this thread, but if your K desktop is OK,
then you actually have this problem quite well isolated to something
in the KDM log-in process. It's not X, and it's not your desktop
itself.

  By the time KDM has switched over to you, it's writing errors
into a file, ".xession-errors", in your home directory -- you can
check this for clues to what's going on.

  Another option is to blitz kdm's config files, and re-configure
or re-install the package.  I'm not familiar with how sid 
does this, but you can do "dpkg -L kdm", and look for files in

the /etc directory -- for the current Debian stable it's
/etc/kde3/kdm.  I suggest re-naming the analogous directory
(don't delete it, you might want it back), and then doing
"apt-get install --reinstall kdm", or whatever the analogous
operation is in aptitude or synaptic, if that's your preference,
which should re-build the configuration section.  That's likely
to fix it, at the cost of un-doing any customizations you've
done.

  If blitzing and re-building the kdm config fails, then it's
probably some kind of interaction between kdm and something else...

-- A.
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Hi Andrew,

Thanks for jumping in here.  I've tried the following:

1. I have no ".xsession-errors" (or ".xession-errors") in my home 
directory or that of any other user.


2. It appears the configuration files for kde4 are found under 
"/usr/share/kde4/config" and also "/etc/kde4/kdm/".  I tried moving the 
"config" directory to an obscure location and the doing the "apt-get 
install --reinstall kdm".  It regenerated the config directory but no 
change in login.


3. I found that under /user/bin (when doing the dpkg -L kdm) there is a 
file "genkdmconf" which looked promising.  Reading the help file for it 
and executing "genkdmconf -no-old", the files under /etc/kde4/kdm were 
backed up and new ones regenerated.  Now, I get a different login screen 
background, but the action is still the same -- does not accept my 
password.  I can still use the "console login" option of that screen and 
get to the CLI login and doing so still allows me to startx and get 
things going.


So it appears that your last paragraph applies.  I'll be glad to try 
(almost) anything you or anyone else suggests on this.


(I am also, per my previous message, starting another thread for the 
symbol not found problem I have in trying to get some applications 
running (synaptic, iceape, geany to name a few).)


Regards,
Don


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Re: Before I "bug" cron...

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/09/2010 05:13 PM, Javier Barroso wrote:

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:

Has anyone else noticed that the recent Sid cron upgrade to 3.0pl1-110 from
3.0pl1-109 is now sending emails to null?

(Yes, my crontab file has MAILTO="".)

Attached is an example.

I suppose this is a regression from fixing
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577133

rev 487 seems to introduced this change, developper removed the code
which distinguish between MAILTO defined to NULL, and MAILTO not
present. I'm not a C expert, so I'm not sure


Hmmm.  All the documents say to add MAILTO="".



I think Christian  will fix this (If somebody tell it to him),
becasuse he is very active with cron now :) (see changelog and rfh
cron)



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Re: Re: Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service

[Clive Standbridge]

> I don't have a solution, just one possibly helpful bit of advice: swaks
> is the tool for troubleshooting this sort of thing.  You have gotten
> lots of useful information from Postfix and telnet, but I'd try using
> swaks to communicate with the server with and without TLS, and you'll
> see, for any combination of connection and authentication options
> that you try, what works and what errors are received on failure.

Hi Celejar,

Thanks for that advice. I will take a look at swaks.
I have run out of weekend now, so it may take a day or two.

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Re: Re: Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to MicrosoftESMTP MAIL Service

[Clive Standbridge]

Hi Camaleón,


> O.k. Then you need to setup Postfix SSL/TLS acting as client, not
> server. 

Oh that's what I thought I did. I only changed smtp_* settings, not
smtpd_* settings.


> > So my questions are:
> >  * How can I fix this in Postfix?
> 
> Let's see the logs...

I already posted excerpts from /var/log/auth.log and /var/log/mail.log
I'm not sure which other logs are relevant. 


> >  * Can Postfix do this? Or do I need to change to something else
> >  * e.g.
> >  Exim? 
> 
> Yes, you can setup Postfix for this.

That's good, thanks.


> > * What does IceDove do that Postfix doesn't?
> 
> Logs will tell.

Again, not sure which logs. 


> The doc you have to follow stands here:
> 
> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl

Thanks. In fact I've used those settings, and for my old server, they work.


> > /var/log/mail.log:
> 
> (...)
> 
> > May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: certificate verification failed 
> > for NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: untrusted issuer /L=ValiCert 
> > Validation Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation 
> > Authority/CN=http://www.valicert.com//emailaddress=i...@valicert.com
> 
> Server replies that does not trust the issuer of that CA.
> 
> (...)
> 
> > May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: Untrusted TLS connection 
> > established to NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 
> > (128/128 bits)
> 
> I guess your are having problems with the certificate itself. It
> cannot 
> be verified by the remote server.

The TLS part seems to be sorted now (see my reply to Sven).
But the authentication still fails.


Thanks for your help,
Clive


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Re: Re: Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service

[Clive Standbridge]

> The problem with postfix is that it runs chrooted and the CA
> certificates are not copied into the chroot.  See #287795¹.
> 
> Sven
> 
> ¹ http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=287795

Hi Sven,

Thanks for that suggestion. I had seen that bug and discounted it
because the patch is only effective if smtp_tls_CApath is set, and
mine wasn't set. But your mail prompted another look, and with both
smtp_tls_CApath = /etc/ssl/certs and applying the patch from #287795,
it banished the "certificate verification failed" and changed
"Untrusted TLS connection established" to "Trusted TLS connection
established".

So that's progress :-)

Unfortunately it's still failing to authenticate. From mail.log:
May  9 21:49:18 rimmer postfix/smtp[8121]: 5DE243A66: to=, 
relay=NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587, delay=5.5, delays=0.02/0.03/5.4/0, 
dsn=4.7.3, status=deferred (SASL authentication failed; server 
NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR] said: 535 5.7.3 Authentication unsuccessful)

Thanks,
Clive


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Re: colorized ls

[Chris]

Just type source .bashrc
Sent from my BlackBerry®

-Original Message-
From: Rick Pasotto 
Date: Sun, 9 May 2010 17:48:56 
To: 
Subject: Re: colorized ls

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:44:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/09/2010 03:26 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> >What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
> >error message:
> 
> What exactly (Stable, Testing, Sid) did you update, and what command
> did you use to update it?

Testing. aptitude.

> >ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
> >ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
> >
> >How should I fix it?

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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Alan Ianson]

On Sun May 9 2010 02:35:02 pm Lisi wrote:

> I am, however, very sad that KDE 3.5, which I regard as the pinnacle of
> DE's, is being laid to rest.

We are in agreement here Lisi. It's not that I don't like kde4 it's just that 
I'd like to keep what I have since it does just what I want/need it to do and 
kde4 is such a big change.

We I'm running lenny like now I use kde3 and am so very happy with it. When 
I'm running squeeze or sid I run Gnome. I like Gnome but it's just not the 
same. I wish I could upgrade to squeeze without losing kde3, or that 
upgrading to kde4 wasn't such a radical change.

I don't know for sure what to to when squeeze is released, I'll probably hang 
on to lenny for as long as it's feasible.


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Re: [Semi-OT] Accessing gmail from Python

[Andrei Popescu]

On Fri,07.May.10, 15:49:27, Ron Johnson wrote:

> >I just set up getmail do do this.
> >That seemed a lot simpler than fetchmail withh the certificates.
> 
> Maybe the certificates are already somewhere in /usr/share?

IIUC getmail doesn't check the certificates.

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Re: Before I "bug" cron...

[Javier Barroso]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 7:56 PM, Ron Johnson  wrote:
> Has anyone else noticed that the recent Sid cron upgrade to 3.0pl1-110 from
> 3.0pl1-109 is now sending emails to null?
>
> (Yes, my crontab file has MAILTO="".)
>
> Attached is an example.
I suppose this is a regression from fixing
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=577133

rev 487 seems to introduced this change, developper removed the code
which distinguish between MAILTO defined to NULL, and MAILTO not
present. I'm not a C expert, so I'm not sure

I think Christian  will fix this (If somebody tell it to him),
becasuse he is very active with cron now :) (see changelog and rfh
cron)

Regards,


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Re: colorized ls

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/09/2010 04:48 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote:

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:44:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:

On 05/09/2010 03:26 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote:

What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
error message:


What exactly (Stable, Testing, Sid) did you update, and what command
did you use to update it?


Testing. aptitude.


There's a dozen different upgrade methods.  Which one did you use?


ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable

How should I fix it?





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Re: colorized ls

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:44:08PM -0500, Ron Johnson wrote:
> On 05/09/2010 03:26 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> >What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
> >error message:
> 
> What exactly (Stable, Testing, Sid) did you update, and what command
> did you use to update it?

Testing. aptitude.

> >ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
> >ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
> >
> >How should I fix it?

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Is there a way to manage a WS 3500 Lacrosse Technology wheather station under Debian Lenny ?

[Bernard]

I've read somewhere that a Lacrosse WS2300 or 23?? was being 
successfully mastered, but I can't find the appropriate links. What 
about my WS 3500 ?  the MSWIN driver that I got with it, is called 
"Heavy Wheather 3600", as it is supposed to manage both WS3500 and WS3600.


There is a SERIAL connexion between the wheather station and the PC.

Thanks in advance for any advice.


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Re: colorized ls

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/09/2010 03:26 PM, Rick Pasotto wrote:

What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
error message:


What exactly (Stable, Testing, Sid) did you update, and what command 
did you use to update it?



ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable

How should I fix it?



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Re: OOwriter always hangs, and then quits unexpectedly when images are copied (copy/paste) from a website

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/09/2010 03:49 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:

Ron Johnson wrote:

I just opened a new Writer 3.2.0-9+b1 document then selected the
"title image" http://i.space.com/images/080702-voyager-01.jpg from
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/nasa-tracking-voyager2-problem-100506.html
and pasted it into the document.

I am using OO 2.4.1.


That's *really* old.  If you run Stable, then you should deinstall 
it and get binaries from http://www.go-oo.org



  Take for example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California.


Still works, although OOo doesn't seem to know how to handle svg 
documents.



  Select all, then copy it to a
document. After some seconds, OOwriter freezes, and, at the next restart
of OOwriter, I am asked if I want to recover the document. This is an
extreme example, I know, and this is not what I habitually do, but with
this example, I am sure that it is going to bug. The same happens less
often with smaller documents, such as snippets of articles like the one
you selected.




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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Lisi]

On Sunday 09 May 2010 20:35:00 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> I never said that it was not. I was expressing my bewilderment with
> people who seem to get offended when someone offers to submit upstream
> bugs on their behalf if only they would tell him the details of their
> problems, just because he may have made a mistake with the CCs. Why not
> take him up on his offer, you have to do very little, he will do all the
> work? If that leads to some of your problems with KDE 4 being fixed then
> you may have one more acceptable alternative available in case the KDE3
> zombie turns out to be unmaintainable after all.

It was the tone of his letters that upset me.  I will send you the bits that 
offended me most off-list.

But he _was_ demanding that I should do what from my point of view was 
considerable work, while claiming that he was helping me.  He also refused to 
accept the reasons  I gave as valid.  Why do I need to give him any reasons at 
all for my decisions?

> > > That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your
> > > grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to
> > > work with the people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just
> > > want to use the list as your personal agony aunt?

I did not "bother the list with my grievances" nor "use the list as (my) 
personal agony aunt".  I said (and I quote including the text to which I was 
replying):


> > Maybe use dummy packages, or rename the packages so that KDE 3.5 could
> > remain installed, and not be forced to upgrade to Kde4.
>
> No, there is not sane way and there is nobody interested on it.

I would be.  And do we not mean Squeeze?  Lenny has KDE 3.5.10.

> > I really feel sorry that KDE 3 series is no more being developed, and
> > when the day cames that I no longer will be able to use KDE 3, I will
> > switch to Apple or even Windows, but NEVER to kde4 or Gnome!
> > (and I feel many users out there think like me!!!)
>
> You still have gnustep, xfce, lxde, no using any or simply never upgrade.

I have looked at all those, in addition to KDE 4 and Gnome.  None appeals to 
me.  Each has something that I strongly dislike or does not have something 
that I like and use a lot.  I would love to be able to upgrade to Squeeze if 
new(er) hardware dictates, but keep KDE 3.5.  But I am not even almost 
tempted to go over to the dark side!

I am, however, very sad that KDE 3.5, which I regard as the pinnacle of DE's, 
is being laid to rest.


I see no list of grievances.  I said that I am sad that an option I like is no 
longer available.

That is all, and Dotan landed on top of me.  I have also said that I do not 
like various other WMs/DEs.  I am not being forced to justify myself for not 
liking those others.

All I did after that was insist that the discussion be carried on on-list, not 
off.  I was clearly wrong to reply to Dotan at all, and I have learnt my 
lesson.  Next time I will simply ignore him!

But this time, even ignoring him did not make him go away.

Some people on this list have been helpful and made suggestions as to what I 
might like to try.  I am very grateful for it.  It is a pity that you and one 
or two others did not check your facts. 

It is Dotan's right to work to improve KDE 4 if he so wishes, it is not my duty.

Lisi

Re: backing up LVM volumes

[Chris Davies]

Bernard  wrote:
> When I stated that 'SystemRescueCD' did not backup LVM volumes,
> I meant that 'partimage' lacked this capability. As far as I know,
> recent versions cannot do any better.

I'm not familiar with partimage. Are you saying that it refuses to allow
you to backup partitions with names such as "/dev/vg/home" or
"/dev/mapper/vg-home"?


> I tried 'dd' again. It seems more promising, since it does backup 
> everything. files are huge (about same size as the original partition, 
> including empty space)

That's because it's a byte-for-byte copy.


> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=/dev/sda1 of=sda1_04_10.img

Go back and read what I wrote about dd. You *really* ought to specify
a blocksize (for example, bs=100k).


> I must say that my original /dev/sda1 was my 'boot' partition. As such, 
> the RAID/mdadm programs did not create a LVM system ; it kept using the 
> original ext3.

You probably needed to have updated the disk partition table, too.




> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=sda2_04_10.img
> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=sda2_04_10.img of=/dev/sdc1

> I can't read, or even mount sdc1 :

> r...@new-host:/home/bd# mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/exthd
> mount: unknown filesystem type 'lvm2pv'
> r...@new-host:/home/bd#

That suggests that sdc1 is a raw LVM partition, which you would not be
expected to mount as a filesystem. Are you SURE you're trying to dd from
a filesystem image and not from an underlying LVM segment?


It seems to me that you may be very confused (maybe you don't even know
it?!). If you want specific advice, please can I ask that you run these
commands (as root) and post the output.

for D in /dev/[hs]d[a-z]; do fdisk -l "$D"; done
mdadm -v --examine --scan
pvdisplay | grep Name
lvdisplay | grep Name
mount | grep ^/dev/

This will give us a view on what Disk/RAID/LVM/Filesystem combinations
you actually have.

Chris


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Re: colorized ls

[Rick Pasotto]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 10:33:23PM +0200, d.sastre.med...@gmail.com wrote:
> On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:26:36PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> > What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
> > error message:
> > 
> > ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
> > ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
> > 
> > How should I fix it?
> 
> If you are using system-wide definitions, edit /etc/dir_colors and
> comment the offending line. There should be one.

There is no such file /etc/dir_colors. According to the man page, debian
does not use and ignores both /etc/dir_colors and ~/.dir_colors.

> Also, check the manpage `man dircolors'. You might want to rebuild the
> definitions. Backup /etc/dir_colors before. Better yet, does
> `dircolors -b' contain the offending line causing the error?

'dircolors' uses a precompiled database. It evidently changed recently.
It's in coreutils and that did upgrade today but the changelog doesn't
say anything about it.

Why was it changed? How does one discover info like that?

> I'm guessing you use bash.

Yes.

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Re: backing up LVM volumes

[Alex Samad]

On Sun, 2010-05-09 at 18:11 +0200, Bernard wrote: 
> Chris Davies wrote:
> > Bernard  wrote:
[snip]

> >   
> >> So, what should I do so as to backup my system ?  I once tried 'dd', but 
> >> I think I remember it took forever [...]
> >> 
> >
> > Without the bs argument you would have been reading the disk 512bytes
> > at a time. Try bs=1000k for better throughput.
> >   
> I tried 'dd' again. It seems more promising, since it does backup 

dd is not a backup tool for running systems

> everything. files are huge (about same size as the original partition, 
> including empty space), but, in the end, it barely takes more than one 
> hour for each of my 64 GB partitions. (By the way, I kind of recall 
> having stated somewhere that my partitions were 200 GB in size, but I 
> was wrong.  I have two internal hard drives of 80 GB each). My 
> partitions are :
> 
> /dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 => assembled onto a RAID 1 array as /dev/md0 
> (boot partition) (about half of a GB)
> 
> /dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 => assembled onto a RAID 1 array as /dev/md1 and 
> also as /dev/mapper/vg00-root (about 64 GB each)
> 
> /dev/sda3 => fat32 partition, with MSWIN XP installed on it (10 GB)
> >   
> >> I don't really know whether I would have been able to use the resulting
> >> file to successfully restore the partitions if needed.
> >> 
> >
> > How do you know any of your backups work? Test them!
> >   
> 
> Sure !  Not so easy though !  To carry such test, you ought to have 
> enough space available, unless you carry mini tests on small partitions.
> 
> This time, I think I have what I need. I purchased yet another external 
> HD, with a capacity of 500 GB, and, after I had erased whatever it 
> contained for use under MSWIN, I created four partitions using 'cfdisk', 
> all Linux. Then I formated them to ext2 using 'mkfs -t ext2..' (mkfs -t 
> ext2 /dev/sdc1, mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdc2, .. ,mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdc4) 

What is the aim of formatting the disk this way. Why not have a single
partition and backup into there, into some sort of directory structure
like /MMDD/

> Next, I launched 'dd' as follows :
> 
> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=/dev/sda1 of=sda1_04_10.img
> 
> Don't know if this was the best way to do, in any case I did just that. 
> It only took a few minutes, since that partition is only half of a GB 
> long. Then I attempted to restore the saved partition onto another 
> partition of my external HD:
> 
> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=sda1_04_10.img of=/dev/sdc2
> 
> This being done, and after unmounting/re-mounting the devices, I found 
> that /dev/sdc2 was indeed a copy of /dev/sda1...
> 
> BUT...
> 
> I must say that my original /dev/sda1 was my 'boot' partition. As such, 
> the RAID/mdadm programs did not create a LVM system ; it kept using the 
> original ext3.

great you used DD to backup a filesystem that isn't/doesn't change.
Waste of space using DD

> 
> Once this was achieved, I carried on with another partition (sda2). This 
> one was about 64 GB in size.
> 
> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=sda2_04_10.img
> 
> Next morning (but I figured that the process only took a little more 
> than one hour), I attempted to restore said partition into /dev/sdc4
> 
> /mnt/sdc4/# dd if=sda2_04_10.img of=/dev/sdc1
> 
> the result of restoring the partition sda2 onto the sdc1 partition of my 
> external disk, was not the same as that obtained in restoring sda1 onto 
> sdc2. I can't read, or even mount sdc1 :

I wonder why in 1 hour the filesystem would have been used so the
initial part of the backup would have been done whilst the fs was in one
state and the last part of the backup whilst it was in a different
state.


> 
> r...@new-host:/home/bd# mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/exthd
> mount: unknown filesystem type 'lvm2pv'
> r...@new-host:/home/bd#
> 
> So, my hard disk partition sda2 has been restored from its image, onto a 
> lvm2pv logical partition.
> 
> Now, my question is :  what can I do with this partition so as to 
> restore something useful ?  In case something crashes on my desktop, I 
> imagine that, after replacing one or both hard disks, I would just have 
> to partition and then use 'dd' to restore both sda1 (as ext3 RAID array) 
> and sda2 (as LVM RAID array) and that the rest would follow 
> automatically upon reboot ?  Do you confirm this ?

if you really must use dd which is not a backup utility. you have to
stop all the processes and mount all the filesystems as read only.

in fact install another os on the 500G drive, that just does the backup
of the original system to the 500G drive.

maybe have a look at http://www.mondorescue.org/

> 
> But, as a matter of testing, what can I do ? Using 'mdadm', can I 
> re-create a RAID array /dev/md1 or/and /dev/mapper/vg00-root ?
> How shall I do that, supposing that I have obtained two similar 
> partitions (sda2 and sdb2 imaged and restored on two partitions of my 
> external HD ?  I attempted to manage with the 'mdadm' man pages, but 
> this is not very obvious to me

I accept 

Re: OOwriter always hangs, and then quits unexpectedly when images are copied (copy/paste) from a website

[Merciadri Luca]

Ron Johnson wrote:
> I just opened a new Writer 3.2.0-9+b1 document then selected the
> "title image" http://i.space.com/images/080702-voyager-01.jpg from
> http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/nasa-tracking-voyager2-problem-100506.html
> and pasted it into the document.
I am using OO 2.4.1. Take for example
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California. Select all, then copy it to a
document. After some seconds, OOwriter freezes, and, at the next restart
of OOwriter, I am asked if I want to recover the document. This is an
extreme example, I know, and this is not what I habitually do, but with
this example, I am sure that it is going to bug. The same happens less
often with smaller documents, such as snippets of articles like the one
you selected.
> No errors, hangs or "quits".
You're lucky.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignace_Bourget
>
> I selected all of the Early life section, copied it to the clipboard
> with Edit->Copy then bounced over to a new Writer document and pasted
> it with Edit->Paste.  No problems whatsoever.
I did exactly the same. As I had `jumped the gun' (Google translate:
«avoir prévu le coup»), i.e. as I had predicted that the bug would
arise, here is my console output:

==
~$ *** glibc detected *** /usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin:
double free or corruption (fasttop): 0xad500e60 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb6752624]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6[0xb675603d]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(realloc+0x106)[0xb6756b46]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8[0xadfad505]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8(CRYPTO_realloc+0xab)[0xadfadc4b]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8(lh_insert+0x17b)[0xae01a51b]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8[0xae01e467]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8(ERR_load_ERR_strings+0x4f)[0xae01d13f]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8(ERR_load_crypto_strings+0x17)[0xae01f7a7]
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8(SSL_load_error_strings+0x17)[0xae0ecad7]
/usr/lib/libneon.so.27[0xae11b401]
/usr/lib/libneon.so.27(ne_sock_init+0x4b)[0xae112d6b]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae1657bc]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae165c42]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae154885]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae158bd5]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae13492a]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae13960c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so[0xae13fe31]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucbhelper4gcc3.so[0xb7451591]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucbhelper4gcc3.so(_ZN9ucbhelper7Content26getPropertyValuesInterfaceERKN3com3sun4star3uno8SequenceIN3rtl8OUStringEEE+0x1b5)[0xb7453185]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucbhelper4gcc3.so(_ZN9ucbhelper7Content17getPropertyValuesERKN3com3sun4star3uno8SequenceIN3rtl8OUStringEEE+0x33)[0xb74533b3]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucbhelper4gcc3.so(_ZN9ucbhelper7Content16getPropertyValueERKN3rtl8OUStringE+0xd1)[0xb74536c1]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucbhelper4gcc3.so(_ZN9ucbhelper7Content10isDocumentEv+0x52)[0xb74561f2]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucbhelper4gcc3.so(_ZN9ucbhelper7Content19openWriteableStreamEv+0x1f)[0xb74563ef]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libcomphelp4gcc3.so[0xb753967c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libcomphelp4gcc3.so(_ZN10comphelper15MediaDescriptor14addInputStreamEv+0x248)[0xb753a628]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsw680li.so[0xb07e7c9c]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsw680li.so[0xb07e6bea]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libsw680li.so[0xb07ea1d2]
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libuno_sal.so.3[0xb7199b64]
/lib/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0[0xb6a364c0]
/lib/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(clone+0x5e)[0xb67c46de]
=== Memory map: 
08048000-080be000 r-xp  08:05 2031701   
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin
080be000-080c1000 rw-p 00075000 08:05 2031701   
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/soffice.bin
080c1000-08a08000 rw-p 080c1000 00:00 0  [heap]
ad50-ad521000 rw-p ad50 00:00 0
ad521000-ad60 ---p ad521000 00:00 0
ad6b8000-ad6da000 r-xp  08:05 2032624   
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/streams.uno.so
ad6da000-ad6dd000 rw-p 00022000 08:05 2032624   
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/streams.uno.so
ad6dd000-ad6de000 ---p ad6dd000 00:00 0
ad6de000-adede000 rw-p ad6de000 00:00 0
adede000-adf67000 r--s  08:05 1828556   
/usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu/DejaVuSans-Bold.ttf
adf67000-ae0a1000 r-xp  08:05 1804583   
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8
ae0a1000-ae0b7000 rw-p 0013a000 08:05 1804583   
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libcrypto.so.0.9.8
ae0b7000-ae0ba000 rw-p ae0b7000 00:00 0
ae0ba000-ae0fd000 r-xp  08:05 1804582   
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8
ae0fd000-ae101000 rw-p 00042000 08:05 1804582   
/usr/lib/i686/cmov/libssl.so.0.9.8
ae101000-ae121000 r-xp  08:05 3719528/usr/lib/libneon.so.27.1.2
ae121000-ae122000 rw-p 0001f000 08:05 3719528/usr/lib/libneon.so.27.1.2
ae122000-ae177000 r-xp  08:05 2032591   
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/libucpdav1.so
ae177000-ae179000 rw-p 0005

Re: colorized ls

[Alexander Batischev]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:26:36PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
> error message:
> 
> ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
> 
> How should I fix it?

In academic interest you can look what LS_COLORS environment variable contain:

$ echo $LS_COLORS

After that you can look what's wrong with it.

Fix is pretty easy:

$ eval `dircolors`

Read man pages for dircolors(1) and  dir_colors(5) for most complete reference.
Note that you should place command mentioned above to .bashrc (or .zshrc, or
whatever your shell' config is) so it will run every time shell starts.

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Re: colorized ls

[d . sastre . medina]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 04:26:36PM -0400, Rick Pasotto wrote:
> What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
> error message:
> 
> ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
> ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable
> 
> How should I fix it?

If you are using system-wide definitions, edit /etc/dir_colors and
comment the offending line. There should be one.
Also, check the manpage `man dircolors'. You might want to rebuild the
definitions. Backup /etc/dir_colors before. Better yet, does
`dircolors -b' contain the offending line causing the error?
I'm guessing you use bash.

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colorized ls

[Rick Pasotto]

What did I update recently that caused me to lose ls coloring with this
error message:

ls: unrecognized prefix: hl
ls: unparsable value for LS_COLORS environment variable

How should I fix it?

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Re: OOwriter always hangs, and then quits unexpectedly when images are copied (copy/paste) from a website

[Ron Johnson]

On 05/09/2010 02:42 PM, Merciadri Luca wrote:

Hi,

As stated in the title, my OOwriter always hangs and then quits
unexpectedly when I copy at least one image from a website. This
situation happens e.g. when I copy some text from wikipedia, and that
there are some images between the different paragraphs.


I just opened a new Writer 3.2.0-9+b1 document then selected the 
"title image" http://i.space.com/images/080702-voyager-01.jpg from 
http://www.space.com/missionlaunches/nasa-tracking-voyager2-problem-100506.html 
and pasted it into the document.


No errors, hangs or "quits".


Is it normal? It is really annoying. Technically speaking, copying and
pasting such images directly should be avoided, and the images should be
included from an image file, but doing this is not necessary,


An example would help.


  and should
not be the only way to copy text without making OOwriter bugging! And,
sometimes, I do not even want the images, but as the selection in
Iceweasel/FF needs to be `continuous,' they need to be included in my
selection if I want to take a bunch of text into OOwriter, and then
remove the images from the copied stuff.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignace_Bourget

I selected all of the Early life section, copied it to the clipboard 
with Edit->Copy then bounced over to a new Writer document and 
pasted it with Edit->Paste.  No problems whatsoever.


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 09:18:05 -0700, Mike Bird wrote:
> On Sun May 9 2010 08:20:40 Florian Kulzer wrote:
> (snip)
> > That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your
> > grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to
> > work with the people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just want
> > to use the list as your personal agony aunt?
> 
> This is a Debian list, not a KDE list.

That is certainly true, but it seems to me that this argument cuts both
ways, and can be applied just as well to the initial complaints.

> A lot of people care about
> not making Debian worse, and are thereafter taking the time and
> making the effort to present the case for not deleting KDE 3.5
> from Debian.

Probably true, but I do not see what that has to do with the specific
remarks about one particular poster's behavior that you quoted from my
last message. (I think it is clear from my complete message that the
"you" quoted above is second person singular, not plural.)

> While the KDE devs have gone on to new and sillier pastures, KDE 3.5
> is apparently maintained at least by the Trinity project and it is
> possible that either Trinity or other solutions may yet be developed
> that will avoid the planned harm to Debian.

We will see. I have the feeling that the majority of people who cannot
stand KDE4 will simply switch to one of the other fine DEs (or to Gnome)
in the long run, so it may be difficult to maintain a big enough
community of developers and users to keep the KDE3 projects alive.

> This is a worthwhile discussion for a Debian list.

I never said that it was not. I was expressing my bewilderment with
people who seem to get offended when someone offers to submit upstream
bugs on their behalf if only they would tell him the details of their
problems, just because he may have made a mistake with the CCs. Why not
take him up on his offer, you have to do very little, he will do all the
work? If that leads to some of your problems with KDE 4 being fixed then
you may have one more acceptable alternative available in case the KDE3
zombie turns out to be unmaintainable after all.

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Re: OpenOffice

[Alexander Batischev]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 08:37:01PM +0100, James Allsopp wrote:
> Hi,
> I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling openoffice after an update, but an
> still am stuck with the 3..1 version of openoffice. I'm running squeeze so
> should have the 3.2 package available. Can anyone help?

How did you figure out that you still have 3.1? Here is how I check mine:

$ aptitude show openoffice.org-base-core

It shows '1:3.2.0-4' in Version field.

P.S. Just a blind shot: try the following command:

$ aptitude safe-upgrade

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OOwriter always hangs, and then quits unexpectedly when images are copied (copy/paste) from a website

[Merciadri Luca]

Hi,

As stated in the title, my OOwriter always hangs and then quits
unexpectedly when I copy at least one image from a website. This
situation happens e.g. when I copy some text from wikipedia, and that
there are some images between the different paragraphs.

Is it normal? It is really annoying. Technically speaking, copying and
pasting such images directly should be avoided, and the images should be
included from an image file, but doing this is not necessary, and should
not be the only way to copy text without making OOwriter bugging! And,
sometimes, I do not even want the images, but as the selection in
Iceweasel/FF needs to be `continuous,' they need to be included in my
selection if I want to take a bunch of text into OOwriter, and then
remove the images from the copied stuff.

Thanks.

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Vnc server

[Andrew Lapham]

Hello all.

I'm new to debian (2 days) but have been using Linux for a while. Anyway my
problem is with Vnc4server.

Yesterday I set up my /home/.Vnc/xstartup to include gnome session and I
commented terminal emulator. And I remoted in no problem (I forget if I used
vnvserver or Vnc4server)

Today I turned on the pc and ran the server and all I get is a grey screen
and a mouse. I tried vncserver and Vnc4server. Any ideas?

(Sorry for the case/spelling errors this was composed on my phone..)

OpenOffice

[James Allsopp]

Hi,
I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling openoffice after an update, but an
still am stuck with the 3..1 version of openoffice. I'm running squeeze so
should have the 3.2 package available. Can anyone help?

Best regards
James

Re: Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:33:16 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>> 
> Check if you already have the Adobe flash player version installed in
> your system.
 Sure, and even the non-free one, that I installed manually. Adobe
 (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) confirms it:
 
 ==
 You have version 10,0,22,87 installed ==
>
> Side note: I've got "10.0.45.2" :-P
>
>>> Can you send a concrete URI where you are getting problems so we can
>>> check?
>> Whatever video you could ever get on youtube. Let's take for example
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxLNNu74DE&feature=related if you want a
>> concrete URI. I could play it many times (without actually watching it
>> because I am currently not interested in it, I just took it as randomly
>> as possible), and it would always work, but, after some hours of use,
>> the video would double/triple/quadruple speed.
>> 
>> It happens more often with some websites, but videos need to be
>> `sufficiently long.' Such a website (which causes more often problems
>> with the player) is rtlinfo.be. Take for example the video
>> 
>> http://www.rtlinfo.be/info/economie/monde/521282/zone-euro-les-pays-a-
> la-rescousse-de-la-monnaie-unique
!

>> The player could here stall, or go quite faster than expected. Not
>> normal, definitively.
>
> No, definitely not normal. And it's even weirder the behaviour you are 
> describing here because once the video has been fully buffered, it should 
> reproduce smoothly, with no glitches nor pauses and no at double-triple 
> speed, of course :-)
That's what I thought too.
>
> Have you tried to clean Icewasel's cache? History, temporary and cookie 
> files... they tend to increase their size very easily.
Yes, and it changes nothing. Sorry, I often bring to the surface
problems which have no apparent solution(!)

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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Merciadri Luca]

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> Oh, I'm afraid I have no relation with "recordmydesktop", I just told you 
> beacuse is one the most recommended aplications for video screen capture, 
> I think due to is a command line based tool and also can be used with a 
> GTK or Qt frontend which suits very well for both KDE and GNOME
> users O:-)
:-)

> Istanbul seems to be more oriented for a GNOME environment, which in your 
> case should be a plus :-)
Sure. Thanks for all, once again.

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Re: Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-05-09 19:43 +0200, Camaleón wrote:

> (...)
>
>> May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: certificate verification failed 
>> for NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: untrusted issuer /L=ValiCert Validation 
>> Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation 
>> Authority/CN=http://www.valicert.com//emailaddress=i...@valicert.com
>
> Server replies that does not trust the issuer of that CA.

I believe it's postfix itself which does not trust the CA because it
does not know it.

> (...)
>
>> May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: Untrusted TLS connection 
>> established to NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 
>> (128/128 bits)
>
> I guess your are having problems with the certificate itself. It cannot 
> be verified by the remote server.

It's the other way around, postfix cannot verify the remote server's
certificate.

> Note: I think Thunderbird uses its own SSL CA root certificates database... 

The problem with postfix is that it runs chrooted and the CA
certificates are not copied into the chroot.  See #287795¹.

Sven


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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:24:31 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón writes:

>> And what happens when you specify another "-s" (size) and "-r" (rate)?
> See my answer to our fellow Alexander. (And also, sorry for not trying
> it correctly, apparently.)

Yes, sorry. I saw the e-mail later.

>> "Recordmydesktop" is another option. There are many others, just check
>> what is better for you.

> I do not even try it. I could not have asked for something better than
> Istanbul: it just fits my needs. (Except if you're `recordmydesktop's
> secret developer, case where I would try it ;-).) 

Oh, I'm afraid I have no relation with "recordmydesktop", I just told you 
beacuse is one the most recommended aplications for video screen capture, 
I think due to is a command line based tool and also can be used with a 
GTK or Qt frontend which suits very well for both KDE and GNOME users O:-)

Istanbul seems to be more oriented for a GNOME environment, which in your 
case should be a plus :-)

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Re: Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 19:33:16 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón writes:
> 
 Check if you already have the Adobe flash player version installed in
 your system.
>>> Sure, and even the non-free one, that I installed manually. Adobe
>>> (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) confirms it:
>>> 
>>> ==
>>> You have version 10,0,22,87 installed ==

Side note: I've got "10.0.45.2" :-P

>> Can you send a concrete URI where you are getting problems so we can
>> check?
> Whatever video you could ever get on youtube. Let's take for example
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxLNNu74DE&feature=related if you want a
> concrete URI. I could play it many times (without actually watching it
> because I am currently not interested in it, I just took it as randomly
> as possible), and it would always work, but, after some hours of use,
> the video would double/triple/quadruple speed.
> 
> It happens more often with some websites, but videos need to be
> `sufficiently long.' Such a website (which causes more often problems
> with the player) is rtlinfo.be. Take for example the video
> 
> http://www.rtlinfo.be/info/economie/monde/521282/zone-euro-les-pays-a-
la-rescousse-de-la-monnaie-unique
> The player could here stall, or go quite faster than expected. Not
> normal, definitively.

No, definitely not normal. And it's even weirder the behaviour you are 
describing here because once the video has been fully buffered, it should 
reproduce smoothly, with no glitches nor pauses and no at double-triple 
speed, of course :-)

Have you try to clean Icewasel's cache? History, temporary and cookie 
files... they tend to increase their size very easily.

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Before I "bug" cron...

[Ron Johnson]

Has anyone else noticed that the recent Sid cron upgrade to 
3.0pl1-110 from 3.0pl1-109 is now sending emails to null?


(Yes, my crontab file has MAILTO="".)

Attached is an example.

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Re: Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:06:52 +0100, Clive Standbridge wrote:

> I'm trying in vain to relay external mail from postfix on a Debian lenny
> machine to a Microsoft SMTP server on the Internet.  I've been reading
> and searching for days. I've tried numerous combinations of settings
> although I'm note certain what they all do and am experiencing
> information overload.

O.k. Then you need to setup Postfix SSL/TLS acting as client, not server. 
 
(...)

> When I change relayhost to NEWSERVER:587, the mail gets stuck in
> postfix. In /var/log/mail.log I see "Authentication unsuccessful".

(...)

> So my questions are:
>  * How can I fix this in Postfix?

Let's see the logs...

>  * Can Postfix do this? Or do I need to change to something else e.g.
>  Exim? 

Yes, you can setup Postfix for this.

> * What does IceDove do that Postfix doesn't?

Logs will tell.
 
> The rest of this mail contains more detail.
> 
> I've tried with:
>  * smtp_sasl_security_options set to noanonymous and empty *
>  smtp_tls_security_level set to "may", "none", "encrypt" and not set. *
>  relayhost set to NEWSERVER:587 and [NEWSERVER]:587 in main.cf and
>sasl_passwd (kept them in step and updated sasl_passwd.db each time)

The doc you have to follow stands here:

http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#client_sasl

> /var/log/mail.log:

(...)

> May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: certificate verification failed 
> for NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: untrusted issuer /L=ValiCert Validation 
> Network/O=ValiCert, Inc./OU=ValiCert Class 2 Policy Validation 
> Authority/CN=http://www.valicert.com//emailaddress=i...@valicert.com

Server replies that does not trust the issuer of that CA.

(...)

> May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: Untrusted TLS connection 
> established to NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: TLSv1 with cipher RC4-MD5 
> (128/128 bits)

I guess your are having problems with the certificate itself. It cannot 
be verified by the remote server.

Note: I think Thunderbird uses its own SSL CA root certificates database... 

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Re: Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 09 May 2010 18:37:59 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>
> (...)
>
>>> Check if you already have the Adobe flash player version installed in
>>> your system.
>> Sure, and even the non-free one, that I installed manually. Adobe
>> (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) confirms it:
>> 
>> ==
>> You have version 10,0,22,87 installed ==
>> 
>> Thanks though.
>
> I've never experienced speed problems with Adobe Flash plugin. Well, 
> "buffering" issues, yes (pauses) but not "double speed".
I experience it from it to time. Sad to be the only guy it happens to!

> Can you send a concrete URI where you are getting problems so we can 
> check?
Whatever video you could ever get on youtube. Let's take for example
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GxLNNu74DE&feature=related if you want
a concrete URI. I could play it many times (without actually watching
it because I am currently not interested in it, I just took it as
randomly as possible), and it would always work, but, after some hours
of use, the video would double/triple/quadruple speed.

It happens more often with some websites, but videos need to be
`sufficiently long.' Such a website (which causes more often problems
with the player) is rtlinfo.be. Take for example the video

http://www.rtlinfo.be/info/economie/monde/521282/zone-euro-les-pays-a-la-rescousse-de-la-monnaie-unique
The player could here stall, or go quite faster than expected. Not
normal, definitively.

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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 09 May 2010 18:46:20 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>> 
>>> Ffmpeg (command line tool) can achieve that:
>>>
>>> http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC4
>>>
>>> With "-t" you specify the time interval for screen grabbing.
>> Nice, but
>> 
>> ==
>> ~$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg 
>
> (...)
>
>> [x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 352
>> height: 288 [x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]AVParameters don't have video size
>> and/or rate. Use -s and -r. :0.0: I/O error occured
>> Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted. 
>
> And what happens when you specify another "-s" (size) and "-r"
> (rate)?
See my answer to our fellow Alexander. (And also, sorry for not trying
it correctly, apparently.)

> ffmpeg -f x11grab -r 24 -s 640x480 -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg
>
>>> There also some nice GUI apps ("Istambul" or "gtk-recordmydesktop")
>>> that can also help you with this task.
>
>> Istanbul looks nice, but I am obliged to choose `Record 3D' to actually
>> record something acceptable: if this option is unticked, the video
>> images' alternate between (black&white) and (color). Note the `n' at the
>> place of your `m'. Weird, once again!
>
> Yep, it's named "Ista[n]bul" :-)
>
> "Recordmydesktop" is another option. There are many others, just check 
> what is better for you.
I do not even try it. I could not have asked for something better than
Istanbul: it just fits my needs. (Except if you're `recordmydesktop's
secret developer, case where I would try it ;-).)
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Re: Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service

[Celejar]

On Sun, 9 May 2010 17:06:52 +0100
Clive Standbridge  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm trying in vain to relay external mail from postfix on a Debian
> lenny machine to a Microsoft SMTP server on the Internet.  I've been
> reading and searching for days. I've tried numerous combinations of
> settings although I'm note certain what they all do and am
> experiencing information overload.
> 
> I am trying to migrate from one MS server to another.
> OLDSERVER runs on port 25.
> NEWSERVER runs on port 587. Supposedly it requires TLS but I'm not
> certain of that (more later).

I don't have a solution, just one possibly helpful bit of advice: swaks
is the tool for troubleshooting this sort of thing.  You have gotten
lots of useful information from Postfix and telnet, but I'd try using
swaks to communicate with the server with and without TLS, and you'll
see, for any combination of connection and authentication options
that you try, what works and what errors are received on failure.

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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Merciadri Luca]

Alexander Batischev wrote:
> On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>   
> Simply look at that line:
>   
> As far as you have size (-s parameter)  specified already, you only need to 
> add
> frame rate (-r). Following command should work fine:
>
> $ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -r 24 -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg
>   
I tried, but I had apparently moved the frame rate option at a place
where it was not taken into account. It now works. Thanks.

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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 18:46:20 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón writes:
> 
>> Ffmpeg (command line tool) can achieve that:
>>
>> http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC4
>>
>> With "-t" you specify the time interval for screen grabbing.
> Nice, but
> 
> ==
> ~$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg 

(...)

> [x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 352
> height: 288 [x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]AVParameters don't have video size
> and/or rate. Use -s and -r. :0.0: I/O error occured
> Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted. 

And what happens when you specify another "-s" (size) and "-r" (rate)?

ffmpeg -f x11grab -r 24 -s 640x480 -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg

>> There also some nice GUI apps ("Istambul" or "gtk-recordmydesktop")
>> that can also help you with this task.

> Istanbul looks nice, but I am obliged to choose `Record 3D' to actually
> record something acceptable: if this option is unticked, the video
> images' alternate between (black&white) and (color). Note the `n' at the
> place of your `m'. Weird, once again!

Yep, it's named "Ista[n]bul" :-)

"Recordmydesktop" is another option. There are many others, just check 
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Re: Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 18:37:59 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> Camaleón writes:

(...)
 
>> Check if you already have the Adobe flash player version installed in
>> your system.
> Sure, and even the non-free one, that I installed manually. Adobe
> (http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) confirms it:
> 
> ==
> You have version 10,0,22,87 installed ==
> 
> Thanks though.

I've never experienced speed problems with Adobe Flash plugin. Well, 
"buffering" issues, yes (pauses) but not "double speed".

Can you send a concrete URI where you are getting problems so we can 
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Wrong behavior of keys after xserver update from testing.

[Sthu Deus]

Good day.


I have updated some of the xserver packages from testing repo and now can not 
use my keyboard properly - right CTRL and keys PageUp and Page Down behave 
itself wrong - for example in text editor it inserts "/".

I tried to set right behavior for Right_CTRL with .xmodmap:

remove Control = Control_R
keycode 109 = Control_R

then reloaded the map w/:

$ xmodmap /home/user/.xmodmap

It seems it reloads all right, but with no luck - still same Right_CTRL key 
behavior.

How I can fix it?


Thanks for Your time.

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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Alexander Batischev]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 06:46:20PM +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
> ~$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg
> FFmpeg version r11872+debian_0.svn20080206-18+lenny1, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 
> Fabrice Bellard, et al.
>   configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-libfaad --enable-pp --enable-swscaler 
> --enable-x11grab --prefix=/usr --enable-libgsm --enable-libtheora 
> --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --disable-strip --enable-libdc1394 
> --disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-altivec --disable-vis 
> --enable-shared --disable-static
>   libavutil version: 49.6.0
>   libavcodec version: 51.50.0
>   libavformat version: 52.7.0
>   libavdevice version: 52.0.0
>   built on Jan 28 2010 20:57:25, gcc: 4.3.2
> [x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 352 
> height: 288
> [x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]AVParameters don't have video size and/or rate. Use -s 
> and -r.
> :0.0: I/O error occured
> Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.
> ==
> 
> ==
> $ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -i :0.0+10,20 /tmp/out.mpg
> FFmpeg version r11872+debian_0.svn20080206-18+lenny1, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 
> Fabrice Bellard, et al.
>   configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-libfaad --enable-pp --enable-swscaler 
> --enable-x11grab --prefix=/usr --enable-libgsm --enable-libtheora 
> --enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --disable-strip --enable-libdc1394 
> --disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-altivec --disable-vis 
> --enable-shared --disable-static
>   libavutil version: 49.6.0
>   libavcodec version: 51.50.0
>   libavformat version: 52.7.0
>   libavdevice version: 52.0.0
>   built on Jan 28 2010 20:57:25, gcc: 4.3.2
> [x11grab @ 0xb7eb7ec8]device: :0.0+10,20 -> display: :0.0 x: 10 y: 20 width: 
> 352 height: 288
> [x11grab @ 0xb7eb7ec8]AVParameters don't have video size and/or rate. Use -s 
> and -r.
> :0.0+10,20: I/O error occured
> Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.
> ==
Simply look at that line:
> [x11grab @ 0xb7eb7ec8]AVParameters don't have video size and/or rate. Use -s 
> and -r.
As far as you have size (-s parameter)  specified already, you only need to add
frame rate (-r). Following command should work fine:

$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -r 24 -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg


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Authentication unsuccessful relaying from Postfix to Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service

[Clive Standbridge]

Hi,

I'm trying in vain to relay external mail from postfix on a Debian
lenny machine to a Microsoft SMTP server on the Internet.  I've been
reading and searching for days. I've tried numerous combinations of
settings although I'm note certain what they all do and am
experiencing information overload.

I am trying to migrate from one MS server to another.
OLDSERVER runs on port 25.
NEWSERVER runs on port 587. Supposedly it requires TLS but I'm not
certain of that (more later).

My existing, working, setup has postfix set up for "Internet with smarthost"
and the login credentials for OLDSERVER are in /etc/postfix/sasl_passwd.
I send mail from mutt to "/usr/sbin/sendmail -oem -oi" and it is duly 
relayed by postfix.

When I change relayhost to NEWSERVER:587, the mail gets stuck in postfix.
In /var/log/mail.log I see "Authentication unsuccessful".

On the same machine I set up an account in IceDove to use NEWSERVER:587
for SMTP and it just works.  
What's more, it works when "Secure Connection" is set to any of
"None", "TLS", "Use TLS if available". (That's why I cast doubt on the
TLS requirement above).

So my questions are:
 * How can I fix this in Postfix?
 * Can Postfix do this? Or do I need to change to something else e.g. Exim?
 * What does IceDove do that Postfix doesn't?

The rest of this mail contains more detail.

I've tried with:
 * smtp_sasl_security_options set to noanonymous and empty
 * smtp_tls_security_level set to "may", "none", "encrypt" and not set.
 * relayhost set to NEWSERVER:587 and [NEWSERVER]:587 in main.cf and 
   sasl_passwd (kept them in step and updated sasl_passwd.db each time)


(Sanitised) server information using ehlo command in telnet:

$ telnet NEWSERVER 587
Trying NEWSERVER-IPADDR...
Connected to NEWSERVER.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 NEWSERVER-OTHERNAME Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service ready at Fri, 7 May 2010 
14:43:28 +0100
ehlo
250-NEWSERVER-OTHERNAME Hello [MY-IPADDR]
250-SIZE 1536
250-PIPELINING
250-DSN
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-STARTTLS
250-AUTH GSSAPI NTLM
250-8BITMIME
250-BINARYMIME
250 CHUNKING

$ telnet OLDSERVER 25
Trying OLDSERVER-IPADDR...
Connected to OLDSERVER.
Escape character is '^]'.
220 OLDSERVER-OTHERNAME Microsoft ESMTP MAIL Service, Version: 6.0.3790.3959 
ready at  Fri, 7 May 2010 15:44:25 +0200 
ehlo
250-OLDSERVER-OTHERNAME Hello [MY-IPADDR]
250-TURN
250-SIZE
250-ETRN
250-PIPELINING
250-DSN
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8bitmime
250-BINARYMIME
250-CHUNKING
250-VRFY
250-X-EXPS GSSAPI NTLM LOGIN
250-X-EXPS=LOGIN
250-AUTH GSSAPI NTLM LOGIN
250-AUTH=LOGIN
250-X-LINK2STATE
250-XEXCH50
250 OK

Here are some sanitised logs from when the problem occurs. These were 
collected with the following settings:
relayhost = NEWSERVER:587
smtp_sasl_security_options = noanonymous
smtp_tls_security_level = may
(although it's the same for all the settings I tried, except there were
no SSL/TLS logs when smtp_tls_security_level = none).


/var/log/auth.log:
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: NTLM client step 1
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: NTLM client step 2
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: server flags: ff810205
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: server domain: NEWSERVER-NTDOMAIN
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: calculating NT response

/var/log/mail.log:
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/pickup[10629]: 57BC739B7: uid=1000 
from=
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/cleanup[10641]: 57BC739B7: 
resent-message-id=<20100509153001.gf3...@my-mailname>
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/cleanup[10641]: 57BC739B7: 
message-id=<20100509141642.gb3...@my-mailname>
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/qmgr[10630]: 57BC739B7: from=, 
size=863, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: initializing the client-side TLS 
engine
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/tlsmgr[10644]: open smtp TLS cache 
btree:/var/lib/postfix/smtp_scache
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/tlsmgr[10644]: tlsmgr_cache_run_event: start TLS 
smtp session cache cleanup
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: setting up TLS connection to 
NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: 
TLS cipher list "ALL:+RC4:@STRENGTH"
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: looking for session 
smtp:NEWSERVER-IPADDR:587:NEWSERVER-OTHERNAME&p=0&c=ALL:+RC4:@STRENGTH in smtp 
cache
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/tlsmgr[10644]: lookup smtp session 
id=smtp:NEWSERVER-IPADDR:587:NEWSERVER-OTHERNAME&p=0&c=ALL:+RC4:@STRENGTH
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: SSL_connect:before/connect 
initialization
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: SSL_connect:SSLv2/v3 write client 
hello A
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: SSL_connect:SSLv3 read server hello 
A
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/smtp[10643]: NEWSERVER[NEWSERVER-IPADDR]:587: 
certificate verification depth=2 verify=0 subject=/C=US/O=The Go Daddy Group, 
Inc./OU=Go Daddy Class 2 Certification Authority
May  9 16:30:01 rimmer postfix/sm

Re: bandwidth measurement by process

[Celejar]

On Sun, 9 May 2010 12:49:30 +0530
Anand Sivaram  wrote:

...

> > I'm actually surprised that such a tool doesn't exist.  Isn't this
> > something quite useful?  Aren't the sorts of questions that I want
> > answered pretty universal and important?
> >
> > Celejar

...

> Many of the programs are created when a potential developer felt that he/she
> requires such a program, but his/her requirement is not met by the existing
> programs.  Now you are feeling that your requirement is not fulfilled and
> you are planning to get something of your own :)
> Your plan is really good, I could provide any help, in case you require any.

I'm not complaining, just surprised.  Anyway, I'm going to do this (or
get really stuck trying ;)) when I get a chance, and I appreciate your
offer of help. If / when I do get stuck, I'll take you up on it!

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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:53:05 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> How can I capture (for a video) what is displayed on my screen during a
>> given amount of time? I do not want screenshots, but a video.
>> 
>> I am using GNOME w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem.
>
> Ffmpeg (command line tool) can achieve that:
>
> http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC4
>
> With "-t" you specify the time interval for screen grabbing.
Nice, but

==
~$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -i :0.0 /tmp/out.mpg
FFmpeg version r11872+debian_0.svn20080206-18+lenny1, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 
Fabrice Bellard, et al.
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-libfaad --enable-pp --enable-swscaler 
--enable-x11grab --prefix=/usr --enable-libgsm --enable-libtheora 
--enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --disable-strip --enable-libdc1394 
--disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-altivec --disable-vis 
--enable-shared --disable-static
  libavutil version: 49.6.0
  libavcodec version: 51.50.0
  libavformat version: 52.7.0
  libavdevice version: 52.0.0
  built on Jan 28 2010 20:57:25, gcc: 4.3.2
[x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]device: :0.0 -> display: :0.0 x: 0 y: 0 width: 352 
height: 288
[x11grab @ 0xb7f7fec8]AVParameters don't have video size and/or rate. Use -s 
and -r.
:0.0: I/O error occured
Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.
==

==
$ ffmpeg -f x11grab -s cif -i :0.0+10,20 /tmp/out.mpg
FFmpeg version r11872+debian_0.svn20080206-18+lenny1, Copyright (c) 2000-2008 
Fabrice Bellard, et al.
  configuration: --enable-gpl --enable-libfaad --enable-pp --enable-swscaler 
--enable-x11grab --prefix=/usr --enable-libgsm --enable-libtheora 
--enable-libvorbis --enable-pthreads --disable-strip --enable-libdc1394 
--disable-armv5te --disable-armv6 --disable-altivec --disable-vis 
--enable-shared --disable-static
  libavutil version: 49.6.0
  libavcodec version: 51.50.0
  libavformat version: 52.7.0
  libavdevice version: 52.0.0
  built on Jan 28 2010 20:57:25, gcc: 4.3.2
[x11grab @ 0xb7eb7ec8]device: :0.0+10,20 -> display: :0.0 x: 10 y: 20 width: 
352 height: 288
[x11grab @ 0xb7eb7ec8]AVParameters don't have video size and/or rate. Use -s 
and -r.
:0.0+10,20: I/O error occured
Usually that means that input file is truncated and/or corrupted.
==

> There also some nice GUI apps ("Istambul" or "gtk-recordmydesktop") that 
> can also help you with this task.
Istanbul looks nice, but I am obliged to choose `Record 3D' to
actually record something acceptable: if this option is unticked, the
video images' alternate between (black&white) and (color). Note the
`n' at the place of your `m'. Weird, once again!

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Re: bandwidth measurement by process

[Celejar]

[Please reply to this list only, and not to me.]

On Sun, 9 May 2010 09:20:36 +0200
Frederik Kriewitz  wrote:

> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Celejar  wrote:
> > Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  Well, I think that I'm going
> > to code something like this, unless someone else will point out that
> > it's already been done.
> 
> I don't know anything like this, but another approch to to this might
> be to use LD_PRELOAD and/or PTRACE to hook connect(), write() and
> read().

Thanks.  I had thought of this approach, too, but I have much more
confidence in my being able to correctly code a pcap application
than to mess with preloading.

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Re: Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:51:20 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> When surfing on webpages, it someztimes happen that pages embed videos
>> through flash (e.g. youtube). From time to time, my Iceweasel/FF browser
>> happens to play the video ~4 times faster than the normal (i.e. 1 time)
>> speed, because it bugs. But the rest of the webpage remains normal, not
>> specially buggy, neither do the other tabs.
>> 
>> Has somebody already experienced such problems? If so, which websites
>> with? Special bug.
>
> Yes, that happens with the open flash plugin but not with Adobe flash 
> player (proprietary software and so not installed by default).
>
> Check if you already have the Adobe flash player version installed in 
> your system.
Sure, and even the non-free one, that I installed manually. Adobe
(http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/) confirms it:

==
You have version 10,0,22,87 installed
==

Thanks though.
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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mike Bird]

On Sun May 9 2010 08:20:40 Florian Kulzer wrote:
(snip)
> That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your
> grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to
> work with the people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just want
> to use the list as your personal agony aunt?

This is a Debian list, not a KDE list.  A lot of people care about
not making Debian worse, and are thereafter taking the time and
making the effort to present the case for not deleting KDE 3.5
from Debian.

While the KDE devs have gone on to new and sillier pastures, KDE 3.5
is apparently maintained at least by the Trinity project and it is
possible that either Trinity or other solutions may yet be developed
that will avoid the planned harm to Debian.

This is a worthwhile discussion for a Debian list.  I would suggest,
however, that follow ups if any be directed to the more focused forum
of debian-kde, to which I have cross-posted this message.

--Mike Bird


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Re: Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:53:05 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> How can I capture (for a video) what is displayed on my screen during a
> given amount of time? I do not want screenshots, but a video.
> 
> I am using GNOME w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem.

Ffmpeg (command line tool) can achieve that:

http://ffmpeg.org/ffmpeg-doc.html#SEC4

With "-t" you specify the time interval for screen grabbing.

There also some nice GUI apps ("Istambul" or "gtk-recordmydesktop") that 
can also help you with this task.

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Re: backing up LVM volumes

[Bernard]

Chris Davies wrote:

Bernard  wrote:
  
On my previous systems, I used to create overall backups of partitions, 
using 'SystemRescueCD'. This is no longer possible ever since 2007 that 
I have a RAID1 mirroring system on my Debian.



You used to boot from SystemRescueCD and backup the partitions
corresponding to the (unmounted) filesystems block by block? Or you
mounted them and backed up the (mounted) filesystems?
  


I've never dared backing up mounted partitions, for fearing of mishaps



You can continue to do either of these that even though you've got RAID1
and LVM. Start up RAID1 and LVM, and then back up the logical partitions
(or filesystems) that result. Ignore the physical ones.


  

SystemRescueCD does not backup LVM volumes, or, if it does, that must
be a very new feature, and I have not found any doc on this.



TBH I'm not aware of any backup feature within SystemRescueCD, but there
are many useful tools there. I've successfully fixed up software RAID1
configurations, and it must work with LVM because most of my systems'
filesystems are based on RAID1/LVM combinations and it works for me.
  


SystemRescueCD only worked as an external boot system. Amongst the tools 
it proposes, is 'partimage', which creates images of partitions and 
compresses them. When I stated that 'SystemRescueCD' did not backup LVM 
volumes, I meant that 'partimage' lacked this capability. As far as I 
know, recent versions cannot do any better.
  
So, what should I do so as to backup my system ?  I once tried 'dd', but 
I think I remember it took forever [...]



Without the bs argument you would have been reading the disk 512bytes
at a time. Try bs=1000k for better throughput.
  
I tried 'dd' again. It seems more promising, since it does backup 
everything. files are huge (about same size as the original partition, 
including empty space), but, in the end, it barely takes more than one 
hour for each of my 64 GB partitions. (By the way, I kind of recall 
having stated somewhere that my partitions were 200 GB in size, but I 
was wrong.  I have two internal hard drives of 80 GB each). My 
partitions are :


/dev/sda1 and /dev/sdb1 => assembled onto a RAID 1 array as /dev/md0 
(boot partition) (about half of a GB)


/dev/sda2 and /dev/sdb2 => assembled onto a RAID 1 array as /dev/md1 and 
also as /dev/mapper/vg00-root (about 64 GB each)


/dev/sda3 => fat32 partition, with MSWIN XP installed on it (10 GB)
  

I don't really know whether I would have been able to use the resulting
file to successfully restore the partitions if needed.



How do you know any of your backups work? Test them!
  


Sure !  Not so easy though !  To carry such test, you ought to have 
enough space available, unless you carry mini tests on small partitions.


This time, I think I have what I need. I purchased yet another external 
HD, with a capacity of 500 GB, and, after I had erased whatever it 
contained for use under MSWIN, I created four partitions using 'cfdisk', 
all Linux. Then I formated them to ext2 using 'mkfs -t ext2..' (mkfs -t 
ext2 /dev/sdc1, mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdc2, .. ,mkfs -t ext2 /dev/sdc4) 
Next, I launched 'dd' as follows :


/mnt/sdc4/# dd if=/dev/sda1 of=sda1_04_10.img

Don't know if this was the best way to do, in any case I did just that. 
It only took a few minutes, since that partition is only half of a GB 
long. Then I attempted to restore the saved partition onto another 
partition of my external HD:


/mnt/sdc4/# dd if=sda1_04_10.img of=/dev/sdc2

This being done, and after unmounting/re-mounting the devices, I found 
that /dev/sdc2 was indeed a copy of /dev/sda1...


BUT...

I must say that my original /dev/sda1 was my 'boot' partition. As such, 
the RAID/mdadm programs did not create a LVM system ; it kept using the 
original ext3.


Once this was achieved, I carried on with another partition (sda2). This 
one was about 64 GB in size.


/mnt/sdc4/# dd if=/dev/sda2 of=sda2_04_10.img

Next morning (but I figured that the process only took a little more 
than one hour), I attempted to restore said partition into /dev/sdc4


/mnt/sdc4/# dd if=sda2_04_10.img of=/dev/sdc1

the result of restoring the partition sda2 onto the sdc1 partition of my 
external disk, was not the same as that obtained in restoring sda1 onto 
sdc2. I can't read, or even mount sdc1 :


r...@new-host:/home/bd# mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/exthd
mount: unknown filesystem type 'lvm2pv'
r...@new-host:/home/bd#

So, my hard disk partition sda2 has been restored from its image, onto a 
lvm2pv logical partition.


Now, my question is :  what can I do with this partition so as to 
restore something useful ?  In case something crashes on my desktop, I 
imagine that, after replacing one or both hard disks, I would just have 
to partition and then use 'dd' to restore both sda1 (as ext3 RAID array) 
and sda2 (as LVM RAID array) and that the rest would follow 
automatically upon reboot ?  Do you confirm this ?


But, as a matter of testing, what c

Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Mike Bird]

On Sun May 9 2010 06:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.

That is factually incorrect.  Dotan has replied to me+list
on several occasions without permission.  From the comments
here I believe he annoys others similarly.

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Re: Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 09 May 2010 17:51:20 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:

> When surfing on webpages, it someztimes happen that pages embed videos
> through flash (e.g. youtube). From time to time, my Iceweasel/FF browser
> happens to play the video ~4 times faster than the normal (i.e. 1 time)
> speed, because it bugs. But the rest of the webpage remains normal, not
> specially buggy, neither do the other tabs.
> 
> Has somebody already experienced such problems? If so, which websites
> with? Special bug.

Yes, that happens with the open flash plugin but not with Adobe flash 
player (proprietary software and so not installed by default).

Check if you already have the Adobe flash player version installed in 
your system.

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Capture (for video) what is displayed on the screen

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Hi,

How can I capture (for a video) what is displayed on my screen during
a given amount of time? I do not want screenshots, but a video.

I am using GNOME w. k. 2.6.26-2-686-bigmem.

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Iceweasel/FF makes the embedded videos going 4 times faster when it bugs!

[Merciadri Luca]

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Hi,

When surfing on webpages, it someztimes happen that pages embed videos
through flash (e.g. youtube). From time to time, my Iceweasel/FF
browser happens to play the video ~4 times faster than the normal
(i.e. 1 time) speed, because it bugs. But the rest of the webpage
remains normal, not specially buggy, neither do the other tabs. 

Has somebody already experienced such problems? If so, which websites
with? Special bug.

Thanks.
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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Florian Kulzer]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 15:00:31 +0100, Lisi wrote:

[...]

> I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant 
> emails direct to me.  That is what I am complaining about.

On-list complaints about unsolicited CC'ing are also against the code of
conduct, so you are at least as "rude" as Dotan is, and you are
"bullying" all of us to read what should be a private complaint. Pot,
meet kettle.


> As I said above, 
> *I* have been getting them from Dotan, as you correctly state:  "*Lisi* 
> shreef . *I* have been getting them."  According to list policy I should 
> not be getting them.  In addition, the last one was sent to the KDE list (to 
> which I do not subscribe) and not to this, which is the list with the thread.

People sometimes make mistakes about CC'ing, especially when they are
having what is essentially the same discussion on two different mailing
lists. There is a reason why the rule to stop public complaints about
CC'ing has been added to the code of conduct; Joey Hess has posted an
informative commentary:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/03/msg01846.html

> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the last 
> one) before complaining about my complaint.

I do not see what is so rude about these emails; I have the impression
that Dotan is genuinely interested, if maybe a bit overeager, to make
sure at all possible usability issues of KDE4 are addressed or at least
documented on the upstream BTS. 

If you first complain about the usability of KDE4 and then you are
offended when people who want to improve the usability of KDE4 ask you
about details, then maybe you should not have complained publicly in the
first place. What did you hope to achieve with your complaints if you
are not willing to work constructively on the resolution of the problems
that you experience? 

> And my crime??  For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected to 
> the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me?  I use KDE 3, but do not 
> intend to use KDE 4.

That is fine, of course, but why do you bother the list with your
grievances if your mind is already made up and you are not willing to
work with the people who care about making KDE4 better? Do you just want
to use the list as your personal agony aunt?

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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Op 09-05-10 17:02, Lisi schreef:
> On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
>>> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the
>>> last one) before complaining about my complaint.
>>
>> Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me
>> to hack your mailbox ;)
>>
>>> And my crime??  For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected
>>> to the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me?  I use KDE 3, but do
>>> not intend to use KDE 4.
>>
>> As far as I have seen the mails of Dotan on this list (the one I'm
>> following), he is currently collecting issues with KDE4 and filing the
>> to the devs.
> 
> I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to 
> you 
> if you were to ask me to do so.  But list policy is to stay on list unless 
> requested to do otherwise. ;-)
Then I have seen them. Yes, he's a bit persistent, that's for sure. But
really bullying? Anyway, it is not for me to judge if you feel bullied.
And as I hopefully made clear, the "manners" comment was surely not just
for you. It's just an attempt to keep the discussion on KDE instead of a
flame war or something similarly unpleasant.
> 
> He is doing that, but in addition he is bullying people most unpleasantly if 
> they do not do his bidding.  I do not use KDE 4 and have no wish to do so. 
That's surely your right.
> 
> The only thing I could have done differently (other than not send that very 
> short and mild complaint) is bow down to Dotan and agree that I have no right 
> to dislike KDE 4, because he does not find my reasons valid.  I tried to end 
> this by simply not replying, but even that did not rescue me - he sent 
> another email, to which I again did not reply.  What more could I do, other 
> than be very rude myself, to make him go away?
Well, some of your reasons weren't valid. There were several "this
doesn't work"-claims which just work, at least on my testing install.
Which does not mean that there are no reasons why kde4 is good for you.
The problem I had with some of the comments were that they were unfair.
That something doesn't do as it did somewhere else is not necessarily a
bad thing.
Anyway, let's close this discussion here. I surely agree that KDE4 has
is strengths and weaknesses, and based on your daily routine and
preferences this can be a problem. As with any other DE. I don't like
gnome, which doesn't mean that gnome is bad. It's just bad for me.

Sjoerd



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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Lisi]

On Sunday 09 May 2010 15:30:35 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> > Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the
> > last one) before complaining about my complaint.
>
> Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me
> to hack your mailbox ;)
>
> > And my crime??  For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected
> > to the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me?  I use KDE 3, but do
> > not intend to use KDE 4.
>
> As far as I have seen the mails of Dotan on this list (the one I'm
> following), he is currently collecting issues with KDE4 and filing the
> to the devs.

I have already forwarded them to the list and would gladly send them on to you 
if you were to ask me to do so.  But list policy is to stay on list unless 
requested to do otherwise. ;-)

The last one in particular was personal, rude and unpleasant.  He is not 
simply 

> collecting issues with KDE4 and filing the
> to the devs.

He is doing that, but in addition he is bullying people most unpleasantly if 
they do not do his bidding.  I do not use KDE 4 and have no wish to do so. 

The only thing I could have done differently (other than not send that very 
short and mild complaint) is bow down to Dotan and agree that I have no right 
to dislike KDE 4, because he does not find my reasons valid.  I tried to end 
this by simply not replying, but even that did not rescue me - he sent 
another email, to which I again did not reply.  What more could I do, other 
than be very rude myself, to make him go away?

I do not have to give him reasons for my dislike.  I dislike KDE 4 and do not 
use it.  That is surely my right?  I dislike fennel.  No-one tries to 
force-feed me with it!

And surely I have no duty to help Dotan in his single minded ambition to 
impose KDE 4 on all the world?  Many of us do not use it.  Several people 
have been very helpful in sending me comments (_on_ list) on other 
possibilities.  

If he is truly doing what he is doing from altruistic motives, then surely he 
must only "help" (help) those who want his help, not bully those who 
don't.

Lisi


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Op 09-05-10 16:00, Lisi schreef:
>> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
>> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
> 
> I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant 
> emails direct to me.  That is what I am complaining about.  As I said above, 
> *I* have been getting them from Dotan, as you correctly state:  "*Lisi* 
> shreef . *I* have been getting them."  According to list policy I should 
> not be getting them.  In addition, the last one was sent to the KDE list (to 
> which I do not subscribe) and not to this, which is the list with the thread.
There you have a point.
> 
> Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the last 
> one) before complaining about my complaint.
Well, that's kind of hard since they are sent to you. Unless you want me
to hack your mailbox ;)
> 
> And my crime??  For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected to 
> the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me?  I use KDE 3, but do not 
> intend to use KDE 4.
As far as I have seen the mails of Dotan on this list (the one I'm
following), he is currently collecting issues with KDE4 and filing the
to the devs. That in principle is something good, I suppose.
What I have seen is that Dotan might be a bit persistent in getting the
bugs of of you and others. What I have seen from you is that you also
weren't completely friendly all the time. That's why I thought that a
'manners' mail would be appropriate. I am not going to judge who has
begun and who is to blame. I'm just observing that a valid discussion
(what's different in KDE4 and how can it be improved) is getting out of
hand. And it's also up to you to fix that.
Anyway, what's the crime of using KDE3.5? Nothing, except that it's not
supported anymore.

Sjoerd



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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Lisi]

On Sunday 09 May 2010 14:18:27 Sjoerd Hardeman wrote:
> Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:

> > On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
> >>> Dotan Cohen
> >>
> >> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
> >> orders?
> >>
> > :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only
> > : to
> >
> > the list unless a copy is specifically requested? 

> > I find having these 
> > commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance. 
> > I filter for a reason!
^^^
>
> It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
> this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.

I do *not* ask otherwise and Dotan has been sending long, rude, unpleasant 
emails direct to me.  That is what I am complaining about.  As I said above, 
*I* have been getting them from Dotan, as you correctly state:  "*Lisi* 
shreef . *I* have been getting them."  According to list policy I should 
not be getting them.  In addition, the last one was sent to the KDE list (to 
which I do not subscribe) and not to this, which is the list with the thread.

Perhaps you should read Dotan's last two emails to me (especially the last 
one) before complaining about my complaint.

And my crime??  For which you too clearly feel that I should be subjected to 
the unpleasant bullying in emails direct to me?  I use KDE 3, but do not 
intend to use KDE 4.

Lisi


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[steef]

Dotan Cohen schreef:

No - that is the problem!!  I loved KDE 3.5.x and have become quite slick with
it.  KDE 4 is different.  I don't like it.  If I have to, in effect, change
DE, and go through the learning curve again, there is no reason why it would
have to be to KDE 4.
 

This is a very valid point that seems to be lost on some devs. Other
than the logo, not much is the same between KDE 3 and 4. I will
contend that moving to KDE 4 would be no different that moving to any
other DE. You will notice that I've never pressured you to move to KDE
4, I have only pressured you to tell me what is problematic in KDE 4.
I do that for the simple reason that I help improve KDE 4, and to
bring it up to par with KDE 3. I do not think that any other desktop
has the ambition to be what KDE 3 was.


   

  When the time comes that I cannot sensibly go on using
KDE 3, I shall chose where I go next on the basis of what the options are
looking like at the time.
 

That is wise, and you might enjoy Gnome Shell, that will become Gnome
3. It is very different from KDE 3, but a lot of people really love
it.


   

  I can see little liklihood that that choice will
be KDE 4.  I may even switch to a window manager without a DE, and chose
other ways of working, if that is the only way that I can avoid the glitz
that is now all the rage.

 

You will have to better define "glitz". Assuming that you mean
composting, then if your intention is to avoid the glitz, you can do
that in KDE 4. In fact, I think that even XFCE comes with composting
support and integration.


   

How things look is very important to me.  I have problems with my eyes, and
how a thing looks can influence whether I can work on a thing for one minute,
ten minutes or an hour.

 

Then you will have to adjust the default settings of any DE, KDE is
not exception here.


   

I have no problem with other people liking and wanting to use KDE 4.  I have a
problem with their, in some cases, not allowing me the freedom _not_ to use
it.  And I personally shall mourn the passing of KDE 3.

 

Like I said, I am not pressuring you to use KDE 4. I just want to know
what doesn't work for you. And now I know, or I think that I do: you
don't like composting. Would you like me to send to you a KDE config
with composting disabled, that you can enable via CLI before logging
in the first time?


   
where is the copy-files option in 'edit', dolphin in kde4.x (in 3.5 
edit> copy files in konqueror) or did my old eyes look not sharp enough?


regards,

steef


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[steef]

sjoerd: completely agreed!

steef van duin


Sjoerd Hardeman schreef:

Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:
   

On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
 

Dotan Cohen
 

Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
orders?
   

:-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to
the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these
commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.  I
filter for a reason!
 

It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
Please, folks, manners!

Sjoerd


   



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Re: Shutdown problem -- cron job related?

[David Baron]

>> At certain times, seems Friday noontime, I am unable to shutdown the
>> system. Instead of the usual scripts to killing all processes, unmounting
>> everything and will now halt, goodby, I get:
>> 
>>  process running pstree (or something like that)
>>  shutdown aborted
>> 
>>  At this point, the system (or at least any console or UI) is dead.
>> 
>>  What it this?


> Just see which process is running pstree.
> "ps -eaf | grep pstree"
> You could find the parent pid of pstree (second column).
> Look at the parent of pstree, and the process started this one.
> If you go back that way, finally you will reach init, but before that you
> could find which system process started these processes.
I'll have to try it when I know the thing is running.

> As I recall, pstree is not part of basic installation.
> It was put to do some scripting, regarding found, in
> perl/python?
> My first bet would be to remove offensive cron line and
> shutdown normally. Than to do filesystem checks. Next,
> to set cron to use pstree as a regular user. I think that
> shutdown was done in some parts, aka closed network. What
> has to wait, hangs the system.
> Otherwise, there is a chance that some housekeeping pro-
> cesses are started at noon every day. You could always
> look at /etc directory and find them. Some unices have
> it in /etc/periodic/daily. It starts with #!/bin/sh.
> Another clue may be in /var/log, as a result of newsyslog.conf.

I have no /etc/periodic and no logs for pstree

I manually ran it (x11 variant) and this is what I got:
init-+-Xprt
 |-akonadi_control-+-akonadi_ical_re
 | |-8*[akonadi_kabc_re]
 | |-4*[akonadi_kcal_re]
 | |-42*[akonadi_maildir]
 | |-akonadi_maildis
 | |-akonadi_nepomuk---{akonadi_nepomu}
 | |-akonadi_vcard_r
 | |-akonadiserver-+-mysqld---74*[{mysqld}]
 | |   `-66*[{akonadiserver}]
 | `-4*[{akonadi_contro}]
 |-apmd
 |-atd
 |-avahi-daemon---avahi-daemon
 |-boinc
 |-clamd---2*[{clamd}]
 |-console-kit-dae---63*[{console-kit-da}]
 |-cron
 |-cupsd
 |-das_watchdog---{das_watchdog}
 |-3*[dbus-daemon]
 |-2*[dbus-launch]
 |-ddclient
 |-dirmngr
 |-dovecot-+-2*[dovecot-auth]
 | |-imap
 | |-3*[imap-login]
 | `-3*[pop3-login]
 |-exim4
 |-fail2ban-server---6*[{fail2ban-serve}]
 |-fetchmail
 |-2*[getty]
 |-gpm
 |-hald-+-hald-runner-+-hald-addon-inpu
 |  | `-hald-addon-stor
 |  `-{hald}
 |-in.tftpd
 |-inetd
 |-jackdbus
 |-kaccess
 |-kded4---{kded4}
 |-kdeinit4-+-kio_file
 |  |-kio_http_cache_
 |  |-kio_imap4
 |  |-klauncher
 |  |-ksmserver-+-kwin
 |  |   `-{ksmserver}
 |  |-python---python---python
 |  `-qjackctl---{qjackctl}
 |-kdm-+-Xorg
 | `-kdm---startkde-+-kwrapper4
 |  `-2*[ssh-agent]
 |-kget
 |-kglobalaccel
 |-klipper
 |-klogd
 |-kmail---{kmail}
 |-kmix
 |-knemo
 |-knotify4
 |-korgac---{korgac}
 |-krunner---{krunner}
 |-kxkb---{kxkb}
 |-nepomukserver
 |-plasma-desktop-+-ksysguardd
 |`-7*[{plasma-desktop}]
 |-portmap
 |-postmaster-+-postmaster
 |`-postmaster---postmaster
 |-preload
 |-proftpd
 |-rpc.mountd
 |-rpc.statd
 |-smartd
 |-spamd---2*[spamd]
 |-sshd
 |-svscanboot-+-readproctitle
 |`-svscan
 |-syslogd
 |-tinyproxy---11*[tinyproxy]
 |-udevd---2*[udevd]
 |-xfs
 |-xfstt
 `-yakuake-+-bash---pstree.x11
   `-{yakuake}
Press return to close

Which would basically reflect what init ran and what kde4 is doing when I did 
it. Why would this be stuck at the end?


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Re: Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Op 08-05-10 23:42, Lisi schreef:
> On Saturday 08 May 2010 20:35:47 consul tores wrote:
>>> Dotan Cohen
>>
>> Who are you in reality? Do you really think that i am going to obey your
>> orders?
> 
> :-)  Well said!  And is there not a list rule that replies should go only to 
> the list unless a copy is specifically requested?  I find having these 
> commands arriving in my personal (as opposed to list) folder a nuisance.  I 
> filter for a reason!
It is a list rule to reply only to list *unless asked otherwise*. In
this case, Dotan asks otherwise, so what's the problem.
Please, folks, manners!

Sjoerd




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[ANNOUNCE] apt-offline 0.9.8 released

[Ritesh Raj Sarraf]

Hello World,

I'm pleased to announce apt-offline version 0.9.8

Release Highlights
* Minor Bug Fixes


Please see the git log for full details[1].
.

What is apt-offline ?

 apt-offline is an Offline APT Package Manager
 .
 apt-offline can fully update and upgrade an APT based distribution without
 connecting to the network, all of it transparent to apt
 .
 apt-offline can be used to generate a signature on a machine (with no network).
 This signature contains all download information required for the apt 
database system. This signature file can be used on another machine connected   
to the internet (which need not be a Debian box and can even be running 
windows) to download the updates.
 The downloaded data will contain all updates in a format understood by apt 
and this data can be used by apt-offline to update the non-networked machine.
 .
 apt-offline can also fetch bug reports and make them available offline



apt-offline is available at [2] and the latest 0.9.8 release can be downloaded 
here [3]

[1] http://git.debian.org/?p=apt-offline/apt-offline.git
[2] https://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-offline/
[3] https://alioth.debian.org/frs/?group_id=100399&release_id=1510


Cheers!

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Re: X starting but nothing shows on the screen

[Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson]

On Sat, May 08, 2010 at 09:12:36AM -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> Ólafur Jens Sigurðsson wrote:
> >Hello, I have a strange problem.
> >
> >If X is started from gdm at bootup or with /etc/init.d/gdm start then
> >it starts (I know this since it beeps when it is up and running) but
> >nothing shows on the screen. The same thing happens when I use startx
> >and I have icewm in my .xinitrc. But if I have no .xinitrc file and I
> >use startx then Gnome comes up fine.
> >
> >I am using sid and have just made an upgrade to my system (I hadn't
> >done a upgrade in quite a while and did an upgrade a few days ago then
> >my problems started) so it is up to date.
> >
> >Any ideas on what could be wrong here?
> 
> What's in the log?

The first log is from a "failed" startx with icewm in .xinitrc and the
second log is with a successful starts with no .xinitrc and gnome
coming up fine.

cheers, Óli

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(II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
(II) Loader magic: 0x81eacc0
(II) Module ABI versions:
X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
X.Org Video Driver: 6.0
X.Org XInput driver : 7.0
X.Org Server Extension : 2.0
(--) using VT number 7

(--) PCI:*(0:0:2:0) 8086:2572:1043:80a5 Intel Corporation 82865G Integrated 
Graphics Controller rev 2, Mem @ 0xf000/134217728, 0xfe78/524288, I/O @ 
0xefe0/8
(II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
(II) LoadModule: "extmod"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
(II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.6.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension SELinux
(II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
(II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
(II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
(II) Loading extension DPMS
(II) Loading extension XVideo
(II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
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(II) LoadModule: "dbe"
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(II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.6.901, module version = 1.0.0
Module class: X.Org Server Extension
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(II) Loading extension DOUBLE-BUFFER
(II) LoadModule: "glx"
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libglx.so
(II) Module glx: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.6.901, module version = 1.0.0
ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 2.0
(==) AIGLX enabled
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Fwd: Re: Kde 3.5 ...

[Lisi]

I seem  not to have forwarded this, although I forwarded the others.  And 
Dotan seems to have circulated it, but not to here.  So, for completeness in 
the thread, herewith:

--  Forwarded Message  --

Subject: Re: Kde 3.5 ...
Date: Friday 07 May 2010
From: Dotan Cohen 
To: Lisi , debian-...@lists.debian.org

On 7 May 2010 19:54, Lisi  wrote:
>> That boils down to "it's on by default". Just go turn them off.
>
> But I have to _look_ at them to turn them off. In KDE 3 I do not. I can turn
> them off without ever having to see them.
>

Yes, you do have to look at them once.


>> And
>
>> the defaults do not have wobbly windows, wavy effects, or anything
>
>> shimmering. Nothing spins either, but the Alt-tab dialogue does slide.
>
>> There is plenty of transparency, though, and I hate that too. So I
>
>> turn it off.
>
>>
>
>> My mother suffers from what she calls "vertigo" and the effects do not
>
>> upset her. Nor do they upset the autistics that I volunteer with. They
>
>> are merely an annoyance to those annoyed by them, nothing wild.
>
> Bully for your mother and your autistics. They make me feel sick and trigger
> a bad headache.
>

The effects do make you feel sick? The only effects you will see to
get to the System Settings is the transparency. I have a lot of
experience in environmentally-induced reactions (my mother, autistics,
and by the way I am a trained medic though I currently do not work in
the field), and I simply do not believe that transparency will cause a
reaction. Nothing flashes or spins, which are the two established and
recognized visual triggers.


>> It works that way in KDE 4 as well, so long as you have opened them
>
>> from Krunner in the past. That is how I open all my applications.
>
> They do not. They are much more complicated than in KDE 3 and you have to
> type more to be offered anything.
>

You are right, you must type the first three letters in KDE 4.


>> > 4. Alt+F1 does not bring up the menu.
>
>>
>
>> It's Alt-F5 for the Kmenu. Has been since KDE 3 I think.
>
> No, it's alt+F1 in KDE 3.5.x. Alt+F5, which I also like and use a lot,
> brings up a list of running windows.
>

Thanks, I'm a good year removed from KDE 3. In any case, you can set
Alt-F1 as the Kmenu shortcut.


>> > 5. Kcontrol no longer exists.
>
>>
>
>> It's called System Settings, and with the Tree menu it's very similar.
>
>> It is being reworked for KDE 4.5, so if you have any suggestions then
>
>> now is the time to make them!
>
> But I don't _like_ KDE 4 and I do, very much, like KDE 3. I like Kcontrol
> better than those work-arounds.
>

That's why I'm here. I'm not trying to push you into using KDE 4. I'm
trying to learn what you dislike about KDE 4 so that I can file issues
and get things fixed. But I won't do that on trivial things, such as
non-essential default settings.


>> > etc etc.
>
>>
>
>> Tell me more!
>
> Why? You will only tell me that I have not got your petrmission to
> dislike/miss whatever it is.
>

No, if you tell me about usability issues, regressions, or just plain
bugs in KDE 4 I will work to resolve them. I have filed or triages
over 1300 bugs in KDE, most for users and not for myself.


> I have not evaded the question. I have pointed out that I prefer things that
> are functional to things that are showy.

You did not point out what is not functional. I am here to fix KDE 4.
I am not here for philosophy.


> As I stated at the beginning. As
> someone else has pointed out, KDE 4 has had 2 years to become half way
> bearable and has signally failed. I mourn the passing of KDE 3.5.x, which I
> regard as the pinnacle of DE's. In other words, we have come full circle and
> are back at the beginning. You have to learn to accept that not everyone
> agrees with you.
>

I don't want you to agree with me. I want you to point out the
problems so that I can fix them.


> And, I fear that the lengths you are going to to try and persuade me that I
> am wrong, even to the extent of telling me that I am only allowed to be made
> ill by something that also makes your mother ill, do not strike me as
> helping me.
>

I am not trying to persuade you to do anything other than share your
KDE problems with me, so that I might get them resolved. KDE 3
holdouts are holding out because they are sensitive to the little
usability issues that make a great desktop environment. I need that
input so that I might get KDE 4 as great as KDE 3. I want to know what
is not intuitive, and what doesn't work.


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Re: bandwidth measurement by process

[Anand Sivaram]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:50, Frederik Kriewitz wrote:

> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Celejar  wrote:
> > Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  Well, I think that I'm going
> > to code something like this, unless someone else will point out that
> > it's already been done.
>
> I don't know anything like this, but another approch to to this might
> be to use LD_PRELOAD and/or PTRACE to hook connect(), write() and
> read().
>
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LD_PRELOAD also seems to be a viable option since it is one process
specific.  You may need to include send(), recv() also apart from read(),
write()

Re: GeForce 8400 GS: Xorg -configure fails

[Akira Kitada]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 4:16 PM, Sven Joachim  wrote:
> On 2010-05-09 08:00 +0200, Akira Kitada wrote:
>
>> I'm trying to set up X and I tried 'Xorg -configure' but it failed
>> with errors below.
>> I run Sid on a home-brew machine built on a GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard and
>> my monitor is BenQ FP222W.
>>
>> I tried Ubuntu 10.04 Live CD to see how it works on the same box and
>> it just worked without any troubles.
>
> I think the problem is that the X server does not yet load the nouveau
> driver by default, this should be fixed soon.  Until that happens you
> need a minimal xorg.conf, see
> /usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/examples/xorg.conf.  Running
> Xorg -configure should not be necessary.

That worked great. Thanks!

>> Is thera anyone how has ever seen this?
>
> I had not tried Xorg -configure before, but when I do it now…
>
>> (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol
>> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
>>   Configuration failed.
>
> …I get the same error.  The generated xorg.conf.new file seems to work,
> though.

That's strange. It didn't generate anything for me.

> Sven
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Re: How to schedule for a repeated task?

[d . sastre . medina]

On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:04:58AM -0700, hadi motamedi wrote:
> I modified my script , as attached,
> according to your comment but it still needs manually issuing Ctrl-C
> at end.

Is your script always launched from tmp?
That is what you _exactly expect_:

send -- "logout\r"
expect -exact "
Connection closed by foreign host.\r\r
\[r...@gprs tmp\]# "<
send -- "exit\r"
expect eof

If that's not the case, you should modify it accordingly.
Please read the comments generated by autoexpect regarding timing and
differing output. Try setting force_conservative to 1 and/or use
regexp in the expected patterns. Try the simplest expect script, i.e, one 
that only logs in and logs out.
In your initial post, you said you needed to store the output
somewhere, have you tried log_file?

You don't mention a single trial-error on your side.
Be warned that this community enjoys helping those who help themselves
first. It's been suggested to try a tool and a manpage. I know expect
looks weird at first, so autoexpect was suggested to ease the curve.
But don't expect to be said exactly what to do (pun).

Regards.

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Re: bandwidth measurement by process

[Frederik Kriewitz]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 9:03 AM, Celejar  wrote:
> Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  Well, I think that I'm going
> to code something like this, unless someone else will point out that
> it's already been done.

I don't know anything like this, but another approch to to this might
be to use LD_PRELOAD and/or PTRACE to hook connect(), write() and
read().


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Re: bandwidth measurement by process

[Anand Sivaram]

On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 12:33, Celejar  wrote:

> On Sun, 9 May 2010 12:15:49 +0530
> Anand Sivaram  wrote:
>
> > On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:38, Celejar  wrote:
> >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I'm looking for a tool that will measure bandwidth used by a specific
> > > process. I'd like some sort of utility or wrapper that will answer
> > > questions like "How much data did my network backup job push over the
> > > wire?"
>
> ...
>
> >  nethogs is unique in that manner, as per their website itself.
> > http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/
> > see section "Links" in their website
> >
> > Most of the other tools give rate per tcp/udp sessions based on port
> numbers
> > and remote address information.
> > So you may not find any other program to take care of this.  I think it
> is
> > doable with a few hundred lines of code.
> > This is what is required to be done.
> > * /proc//fd look for the socket inode numbers
> > * correlate those inode numbers in /proc/net/tcp and /proc/net/udp to
> find
> > the
> >source and destination ip and port details
> > * use libpcap to open the interface and capture the packet, from this you
> > could get the packet length, rate etc of each tcp, udp session
> > Combining the above, it is possible to get what you need.
>
> Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  Well, I think that I'm going
> to code something like this, unless someone else will point out that
> it's already been done.
>
> I'm actually surprised that such a tool doesn't exist.  Isn't this
> something quite useful?  Aren't the sorts of questions that I want
> answered pretty universal and important?
>
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Many of the programs are created when a potential developer felt that he/she
requires such a program, but his/her requirement is not met by the existing
programs.  Now you are feeling that your requirement is not fulfilled and
you are planning to get something of your own :)
Your plan is really good, I could provide any help, in case you require any.

Re: GeForce 8400 GS: Xorg -configure fails

[Sven Joachim]

On 2010-05-09 08:00 +0200, Akira Kitada wrote:

> I'm trying to set up X and I tried 'Xorg -configure' but it failed
> with errors below.
> I run Sid on a home-brew machine built on a GA-EP45-DS5 Motherboard and
> my monitor is BenQ FP222W.
>
> I tried Ubuntu 10.04 Live CD to see how it works on the same box and
> it just worked without any troubles.

I think the problem is that the X server does not yet load the nouveau
driver by default, this should be fixed soon.  Until that happens you
need a minimal xorg.conf, see
/usr/share/doc/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau/examples/xorg.conf.  Running
Xorg -configure should not be necessary.

> Is thera anyone how has ever seen this?

I had not tried Xorg -configure before, but when I do it now…

> (EE) [drm] No DRICreatePCIBusID symbol
> Number of created screens does not match number of detected devices.
>   Configuration failed.

…I get the same error.  The generated xorg.conf.new file seems to work,
though.

Sven


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Re: How to schedule for a repeated task?

[hadi motamedi]

> Well I see the problem.  The autogenerated expect script is waiting for
> the exact output of ShowStats that it had the first time you ran
> autoexpect, which I assume will be different every time, not the same.
> expect --exact "ShowStats\r ...blah blah lots of stats ... BSC1_1_1-> "
> expect "BSC1_1_1-> "
Thank you very much for your reply. You are right and the stats will
be changing for every command run. I modified my script , as attached,
according to your comment but it still needs manually issuing Ctrl-C
at end. Can you please do me favor and correct me for my mistakes?


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Re: bandwidth measurement by process

[Celejar]

On Sun, 9 May 2010 12:15:49 +0530
Anand Sivaram  wrote:

> On Sun, May 9, 2010 at 11:38, Celejar  wrote:
> 
> > Hi,
> >
> > I'm looking for a tool that will measure bandwidth used by a specific
> > process. I'd like some sort of utility or wrapper that will answer
> > questions like "How much data did my network backup job push over the
> > wire?"

...

>  nethogs is unique in that manner, as per their website itself.
> http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/
> see section "Links" in their website
> 
> Most of the other tools give rate per tcp/udp sessions based on port numbers
> and remote address information.
> So you may not find any other program to take care of this.  I think it is
> doable with a few hundred lines of code.
> This is what is required to be done.
> * /proc//fd look for the socket inode numbers
> * correlate those inode numbers in /proc/net/tcp and /proc/net/udp to find
> the
>source and destination ip and port details
> * use libpcap to open the interface and capture the packet, from this you
> could get the packet length, rate etc of each tcp, udp session
> Combining the above, it is possible to get what you need.

Yeah, that's pretty much what I thought.  Well, I think that I'm going
to code something like this, unless someone else will point out that
it's already been done.

I'm actually surprised that such a tool doesn't exist.  Isn't this
something quite useful?  Aren't the sorts of questions that I want
answered pretty universal and important?

Celejar
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Re: Hptalx is buggy once calculator is plugged and linked

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> On Sat, 08 May 2010 22:18:05 +0200, Merciadri Luca wrote:
>
>> Camaleón writes:
>> 
>>> Can you see the "Awaiting Server Cmd." message in calculator's display?
>
>> Pointing this out is a good thing, but I had already tested this.
>> Actually, since I installed many programs in Spanish, my calculator is
>> (to my dismay) in Spanish, and I get, by pressing and holding right
>> shift and by pressing the right arrow, on the calculator,
>> 
>> ==
>> Espero comand.Servidor
>> ==
>> 
>> It looks like
>> 
>> ==
>> Awaiting Server Cmd.
>> ==
>
> Ah, in Spanish. Curious :-). Yes, so it translates.
>
>> and, evidently, doing *another* combination of keys gives me a text with
>> the Xmodem server.
>> 
>> Thus, what I am doing is right.
>
> O.k.
>
>>> Port "100"? What kind of port nomenclature is that? :-?
>> I do not know. I also wondered.
>> 
>>> I would expect "/dev/ttyUSB0" for an USB device or "/dev/ttyS0" for the
>>> first rs-232 port...
>> Me too.
>> 
>>> I think the application is crashing because cannot establish a
>>> connection with the device.
>> Such a (trivial, as habitual) case should have been handled by the
>> developers, shouldn't it?
>
> Yes... I would report. But also take a look into this:
>
> Connect HP 50g (or HP 49g+) to a Linux Box with hptalx
> http://bleedux.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/connect-hp-50g-to-a-linux-box-with-hptalx/
>
> And see if that helps. It seems to be written for ArchLinux (another 
> linux distribution) but it points some interesting things that you can 
> check.
Actually, I thought kermit was installed on this computer, but it was
not. I just installed it, and, now, hptalx starts and does everything
smoothly. The bug was thus due to ckermit, which was nowhere on my
disk. However, I think that they would have better warned about
it. Thanks a lot!
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Re: pdftk or related: how to make a bookmark for every inserted PDF?

[Merciadri Luca]

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Camaleón  writes:

> Not "so" basic for linux, I'm afraid.
No problem.

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