Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
Andrei Popescu schrieb: On Thu,27.May.10, 21:47:16, Ingo Kasten wrote: Israel Garcia schrieb: Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to get this steps? As far as I understand, you would like to backport an unstable package for your stable system. Unless you don't want to pin your apt-get to unstable (or testing) do the following (so did I many times before when I used stable): Go to the debian unstable package *source* page and download manually the appropriate source file, the *.dsc file and the diff.gz file into an empty folder. In this folder you do "dpkg-source -x *.dsc" and your build-folder Wouldn't it be simpler to just add a deb-src line for unstable and apt-get source package ? Regards, Andrei Yes and no. As I mentioned, you'll have to pin apt-get (source) to the right distribution , that means sometimes unstable and sometimes testing. Then you would do apt-get source [package]=unstable/testing for downloading. But it would work indeed :-) . Regards Ingo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bff5808$0$6885$9b4e6...@newsspool2.arcor-online.net
Re: Ugrade from Lenny to Squeeze on old PC Box
Eike Lantzsch writes: > On Thursday 27 May 2010, Paul Chany wrote: >> >> I have an old PC Box on which I was run Debian Lenny with kernel >> 2.6.26-2-486. I used it as a Desktop for small jobs. >> >> Yesterday I decided to upgrade it to Squeeze. >> I did the following: >> 1 change the lenny to squeeze in sources.list >> 2 sudo aptitude update >> 3 sudo aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude >> 4 sudo aptitude full-upgrade >> >> When the full-upgrade process come to the 'udev' package, it can't >> upgrade to the squeeze version because the running kernel version wasn't >> enough new. So I decided to force the udev upgrade with creating the >> file: 'that I can't remember which name has'. >> >> After successfully upgrade udev and the remain packages, I install - or >> reinstall linux-image-2.6.30-2-486 and linux-image-2.6.32-3-486. >> >> I have installed the GRUB2 too but yet remain in testing state. >> >> When I booth with the linux-image-2.6.30-2-486 or >> linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 kernel I can't get the HOME and other >> directories but when I booth with the old kernel 2.6.26-2-486 then I get >> the HOME directory and can use the Squeeze system. >> >> How can I fix this so I can use the linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 kernel? >> Any advices will be appreciated! > > What file system is your HOME directory on? Maybe it is not supported > anymore by the stock 2.6.32-3-486 kernel? Every partition: /dev/hda1 (/), /dev/hda5 (/usr), /dev/hda6 (/home), /dev/hda7 (/tmp), /dev/hda9 (/var) has ext3 filesystem except /dev/hda8 (swap). -- Regards, Paul Chany You can freely correct my English. http://csanyi-pal.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739xceg1x@debian-laptop.localdomain
Debian alternative kernels [OT]
consul tores wrote: Yes, Linux (kernel) is very tweakable, but normal users are not able to compile their own kernel; i am more remembering when i could install using 3 diskettes, and now i can not do it anymore. If, we consider that the environment has changed; we have Red Hut, Ubuntu and Suse; pushing to include every thing into the kernel, what is the best for them, then we have a huge kernel; which is not the best for older ordenators, but it is the best for newer boxes. As we can see, Linus is been pushed to built a huger kernel. I'm sorry but this is quite wrong. Nobody's forcing anyone; on the contrary, kernel developers *want* to integrate many things in mainline, and for very good reasons. See this file[1] for some (about the driver model). 1: linux/Documentation/stable_api_nonsense.txt See it's not the big distributions pushing stuff in the kernel, it's mainly (among other things) new drivers to support more hardware, including very old machines. Everything is extremely well organized and modularized, and you're able to build a kernel with just what you need. Again, if you can't, someone else can, that's what distributions are for; but you can't expect a *general-purpose* distribution to strip off their kernels and drop support for a range of hardware for no reason at all. As Stefan said, Linux does a very very good job on embedded systems, you can't deny that. If, Debian has a very tested own kernel (Hurd), it should be focused to its users, who probably are using older hardware, and maybe are not using non-free software. This is why, i think that having a Debian kernel, the users could be covered against global decisions. The Hurd is not Debian, it's GNU. Again, there's no "global decisions" at the kernel-level (at least not about what you're referring to), the distributions make the decisions of how they want to distribute the kernel; if you're not happy with the Debian kernels, well, maybe you ought to search for a more specific distribution (Debian itself has enough derivatives). Don't forget we're talking on the -user mailing list of one of the most universal projects. The thing is, the Hurd won't change that. If it seems tinier, well it's probably because it currently has less complete support. Microkernels don't exactly require less code "in general" AFAIK, it's a matter of architecture and where and how the code runs. I don't believe we should even think about having the monolithic vs micro kernel discussion here by the way; both Linux and the Hurd are very cleanly written and do what they can the best they can, given their respective design limitations. [snip] No, not the development model; i am refering to the structure, a monolitic base system, which is very small and stable. Well, it's usually seen as such because it's tied with its core userland. Debian uses GNU instead, so *in that regard*, I don't believe Linux and the FreeBSD kernel alone are *that* different. I would rather compare them by their development models, philosophies or simply licenses, for example. Someone might be able to troutslap me one that one. Yes, i think in the same way, we need to test Hurd in an efective way. it could help to manage the actual tendency to emulate Windows, obtaning a sipler/efective/funtional OS. I could be wrong, but it seems the most of us are prefering stability. A tendency to emulate Windows at the kernel level? I don't think so. This matter is a matter of the userland; and there are many, many alternatives to GNOME and KDE already - heck, even living without a prebuilt and integrated DE isn't so hard. Anyway, testing the Hurd is certainly a noble thing to do, but even if it gains traction, it won't get a mysterious anti-WIMP DE that Linux already has. It's other needs it answers to. -t -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bff4052.9000...@stammed.net
Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
> If, we consider that the environment has changed; we have Red Hut, > Ubuntu and Suse; pushing to include every thing into the kernel, what > is the best for them, then we have a huge kernel; which is not the > best for older ordenators, but it is the best for newer boxes. As we > can see, Linus is been pushed to built a huger kernel. Actually, the Linux kernel has seen a lot of work done to make it adaptable to small systems (think home-routers, embedded systems, cell phones, ...). It's just the desktop-distros that use big kitchen-sink kernels, because that suits them better. Stefan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jwvzkzk3jv2.fsf-monnier+gmane.linux.debian.u...@gnu.org
Re: Dependency based boot sequence conversion
Sven Joachim wrote:
> > What will the boot sequence be when I convert?
> > Anybody know how to wring that out of insserv?
>
> Try the following (you don't have to be root for that):
>
> $ cp -a /etc/{init,rc?}.d /tmp/
> $ /sbin/insserv -p /tmp/init.d/
>
> And inspect the /tmp/rc?.d directories.
I recently converted a fairly stock desktop system to dep based boot.
Here's how git describes the changes (thanks to using etckeeper):
[master c392728] dep based boot
Author: root
298 files changed, 107 insertions(+), 58 deletions(-)
create mode 100644 init.d/.depend.boot
create mode 100644 init.d/.depend.start
create mode 100644 init.d/.depend.stop
delete mode 100644 init.d/.legacy-bootordering
rename rc0.d/{K11anacron => K01anacron} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K11atd => K01atd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K74bluetooth => K01bluetooth} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K95collectd => K01collectd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K11cron => K01cron} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K41fuse => K01fuse} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20hostapd => K01hostapd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20kerneloops => K01kerneloops} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K89klogd => K01klogd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K15mpd => K01mpd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K14mpdscribble => K01mpdscribble} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K23ntp => K01ntp} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20openbsd-inetd => K01openbsd-inetd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K80openvpn => K01openvpn} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20policycoreutils => K01policycoreutils} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20postfix => K01postfix} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20saned => K01saned} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20termnetd => K01termnetd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S30urandom => K01urandom} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K50alsa-utils => K02alsa-utils} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K86avahi-daemon => K02avahi-daemon} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K88network-manager => K02network-manager} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K21spamassassin => K02spamassassin} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K90sysklogd => K03sysklogd} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S20sendsigs => K04sendsigs} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S31umountnfs.sh => K05umountnfs.sh} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K20nfs-common => K06nfs-common} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S32portmap => K06portmap} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{K25hwclock.sh => K07hwclock.sh} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S35networking => K07networking} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S36ifupdown => K08ifupdown} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S40umountfs => K09umountfs} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S50lvm2 => K10lvm2} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S60umountroot => K11umountroot} (100%)
rename rc0.d/{S90halt => K12halt} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K11anacron => K01anacron} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K11atd => K01atd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K74bluetooth => K01bluetooth} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K95collectd => K01collectd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K11cron => K01cron} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K80cups => K01cups} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K16hal => K01hal} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20hostapd => K01hostapd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20hotkey-setup => K01hotkey-setup} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20kerneloops => K01kerneloops} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K89klogd => K01klogd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K15mpd => K01mpd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K14mpdscribble => K01mpdscribble} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K23ntp => K01ntp} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20openbsd-inetd => K01openbsd-inetd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K80openvpn => K01openvpn} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20policycoreutils => K01policycoreutils} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20postfix => K01postfix} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20saned => K01saned} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20termnetd => K01termnetd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K86avahi-daemon => K02avahi-daemon} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K88network-manager => K02network-manager} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K21spamassassin => K02spamassassin} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K90sysklogd => K03sysklogd} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K20nfs-common => K06nfs-common} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{K81portmap => K06portmap} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{S30killprocs => S01killprocs} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{S70bootlogs => S06bootlogs} (100%)
rename rc1.d/{S90single => S07single} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S20hostapd => S01hostapd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S30mpd => S01mpd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S75sudo => S01sudo} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S10sysklogd => S01sysklogd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S12acpid => S02acpid} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S89anacron => S02anacron} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S89atd => S02atd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S95collectd => S02collectd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S89cron => S02cron} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S12dbus => S02dbus} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S20hotkey-setup => S02hotkey-setup} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S11klogd => S02klogd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S05loadcpufreq => S02loadcpufreq} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S31mpdscribble => S02mpdscribble} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S23ntp => S02ntp} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S20openbsd-inetd => S02openbsd-inetd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S50rsync => S02rsync} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S19spamassassin => S02spamassassin} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S16ssh => S02ssh} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S20termnetd => S02termnetd} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S14avahi-daemon => S03avahi-daemon} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S25bluetooth => S03bluetooth} (100%)
rename rc2.d/{S20cpufr
Re: daemonizing a command
Israel Garcia writes: > Hi, > > I need to daemonize this command on a debian lenny? > > ruby apd.rb > > It's a simple app for my network. > > I was thinking to use nohup ruby app.rb & at rc.local, but I want to > know if there's other ways to do it. Have you looked at the libdaemons-ruby package to see if it helps? -- Carl Johnsonca...@peak.org -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sk5dq7gy@cjlinux.localnet
Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
2010/5/26 thib : > consul tores wrote: >> We have lost the posibility to install from disquette, we have to add >> an initrd, SElinux have been added by default because of Linus, Linus >> kernels define what to do, and ad infinitum. > > Linux is still extremely tweakable, and you are free to build the kernel > whichever way you want to. If you can't, maybe a specific distribution of > it will fit your needs -- the fact that its default configuration doesn't > [fit] doesn't necessarily mean Linus is evil, but that maybe the general > needs of most people are shifting. He doesn't have absolute power over > everything. Yes, Linux (kernel) is very tweakable, but normal users are not able to compile their own kernel; i am more remembering when i could install using 3 diskettes, and now i can not do it anymore. If, we consider that the environment has changed; we have Red Hut, Ubuntu and Suse; pushing to include every thing into the kernel, what is the best for them, then we have a huge kernel; which is not the best for older ordenators, but it is the best for newer boxes. As we can see, Linus is been pushed to built a huger kernel. If, Debian has a very tested own kernel (Hurd), it should be focused to its users, who probably are using older hardware, and maybe are not using non-free software. This is why, i think that having a Debian kernel, the users could be covered against global decisions. >> Do you know how BSDs work? Have you try Hurd? > Are you referring to the BSDs development model? Anyway, progress on > kfreebsd *is* impressive, and it indeed looks like it might become a very > good alternative for Debian in the near future, but I wouldn't say the same > for the Hurd. It's actually very interesting, but currently lacks much > needed traction. No, not the development model; i am refering to the structure, a monolitic base system, which is very small and stable. Yes, i think in the same way, we need to test Hurd in an efective way. it could help to manage the actual tendency to emulate Windows, obtaning a sipler/efective/funtional OS. I could be wrong, but it seems the most of us are prefering stability. francisco -- Consultores Agropecuarios. Administracion, Produccion, Capacitacion. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimygiy_1-bbtncku5rlrtwneiurdyub9mqoi...@mail.gmail.com
modem Agere Systems LT WinModem
modem Agere Systems LT WinModem Hola tengo un modem interno Agere Systems LT WinModem. Donde puedo encontrar drivers para instalarlo??? Uso Debian Lenny Salu2 Cosme
Re: Ugrade from Lenny to Squeeze on old PC Box
On Thursday 27 May 2010, Paul Chany wrote: > Hi, > > I have an old PC Box on which I was run Debian Lenny with kernel > 2.6.26-2-486. I used it as a Desktop for small jobs. > > Yesterday I decided to upgrade it to Squeeze. > I did the following: > 1 change the lenny to squeeze in sources.list > 2 sudo aptitude update > 3 sudo aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude > 4 sudo aptitude full-upgrade > > When the full-upgrade process come to the 'udev' package, it can't > upgrade to the squeeze version because the running kernel version wasn't > enough new. So I decided to force the udev upgrade with creating the > file: 'that I can't remember which name has'. > > After successfully upgrade udev and the remain packages, I install - or > reinstall linux-image-2.6.30-2-486 and linux-image-2.6.32-3-486. > > I have installed the GRUB2 too but yet remain in testing state. > > When I booth with the linux-image-2.6.30-2-486 or > linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 kernel I can't get the HOME and other > directories but when I booth with the old kernel 2.6.26-2-486 then I get > the HOME directory and can use the Squeeze system. > > How can I fix this so I can use the linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 kernel? > > Any advices will be appreciated! What file system is your HOME directory on? Maybe it is not supported anymore by the stock 2.6.32-3-486 kernel? Cheers, Eike -- Eike Lantzsch ZP6CGE Casilla de Correo 1519 1209 Asuncion / Paraguay -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005271817.39834.zp6...@gmx.net
Re: [OT] Licencias y patentes en el paquete "gstreamer-ffmpeg"
On Thu, 27 May 2010 21:17:41 +, Camaleón wrote: > Abro un nuevo hilo con un asunto más acorde a la temática. Sorry, wrong list :-P Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.27.21.20...@gmail.com
[OT] Licencias y patentes en el paquete "gstreamer-ffmpeg"
Hola, Abro un nuevo hilo con un asunto más acorde a la temática. Para pensar un poco... adjunto listado (no limitativo) de algunos repos de distintas distribuciones donde se incluye el paquete "gstreamer-ffmpeg" que es el único que se necesita para poder ver archivos 3GP con códec de vídeo H263: Debian http://packages.debian.org/lenny/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg Gentoo http://sources.gentoo.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/gentoo-x86/media-plugins/gst-plugins-ffmpeg/ OpenBSD ftp://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/4.7/packages/i386/gstreamer-ffmpeg-0.10.5p6.tgz Archlinux http://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/i686/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg/ Freebsd http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/cvsweb.cgi/ports/multimedia/gstreamer-ffmpeg/ Mandriva ftp://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/linux/mandriva/mandrivalinux/official/2010.0/i586/media/main/release/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-0.10.9-1mdv2010.0.i586.rpm Ubuntu http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg Es decir, que salvo Redhat/Fedora (empresa estadounidense) Novell/ openSUSE (empresa estadounidense) o Solaris/OpenSolaris (empresa estadounidense), el resto de distribuciones incluyen en sus repositorios principales este paquete. Y ahora me gustaría leer argumentos contra su supuesta "ilegalidad" >>>:-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.27.21.17...@gmail.com
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
On Thu,27.May.10, 21:47:16, Ingo Kasten wrote: > Israel Garcia schrieb: > >Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file > >for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I > >remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I > >successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to > >get this steps? > > > As far as I understand, you would like to backport an unstable > package for your stable system. > Unless you don't want to pin your apt-get to unstable (or testing) > do the following (so did I many times before when I used stable): > Go to the debian unstable package *source* page and download > manually the appropriate source file, the *.dsc file and the diff.gz > file into > an empty folder. > In this folder you do "dpkg-source -x *.dsc" and your build-folder Wouldn't it be simpler to just add a deb-src line for unstable and apt-get source package ? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: (OT) suggestion on terse wording of "IT Helpdesk"
On Thu,27.May.10, 20:09:13, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > As explained the tag in email address is to convey information from my > user to me. Since my user knows my email address, that is the only place > where the tag can be. I can ask my users to include tag in subject but > they will not always remember to follow this rule. > > Imagine this: > > Hi folks in CDCSS co ltd. I am Zhang Weiwu and will be responsible for > supporting your computer use. If you have a problem, please email me > (zhangweiwu at realss.com), but don't forget to add the word "CDCSS > helpdesk" in the email subject so that I can properly filter this. > > And compare to this: > > Hi folks in CDCSS co ltd. I am Zhang Weiwu and will be responsible for > supporting your computer use. If you have a problem, please email me > zhangweiwu+aid.cdcss at realss.com. > > It is obvious which works in reality. Yes, and it's an interesting trick you thought of. But, wouldn't the CDCSS people all send mail from the same domain? This way you can just filter on the domain part of the From: e-mail address, or am I missing something? Regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
Israel Garcia schrieb: Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to get this steps? As far as I understand, you would like to backport an unstable package for your stable system. Unless you don't want to pin your apt-get to unstable (or testing) do the following (so did I many times before when I used stable): Go to the debian unstable package *source* page and download manually the appropriate source file, the *.dsc file and the diff.gz file into an empty folder. In this folder you do "dpkg-source -x *.dsc" and your build-folder will be produced. In the root of this folder you make "dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot" and if all dependencies are met, you will get a *deb file which can be installed on your system with "dpkg -i *.deb" ( all commands without "" ). If the build process fails, you will be warned for unmet dependencies and sometimes the trouble begins! Maybe you even have to backport all dependencies, which isn't a funny thing to do for the whole gtk for example ;-) . -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfecc44$0$7660$9b4e6...@newsspool1.arcor-online.net
Re: daemonizing a command
On 05/27/2010 02:52 PM, Israel Garcia wrote: Hi, I need to daemonize this command on a debian lenny? ruby apd.rb It's a simple app for my network. I was thinking to use nohup ruby app.rb& at rc.local, but I want to know if there's other ways to do it. Using Python, I create a module named daemonize and then at the beginning of any program I want to run as a daemon, I do: import daemonize daemonize.daemonize() Maybe you can convert this code to Ruby... # Daemon Module - basic facilities for becoming a daemon process # written by Coy Krill (ckr...@qvlinc.com) # # Combines ideas from Steinar Knutsens daemonize.py and # Jeff Kunces demonize.py """Facilities for Creating Python Daemons""" import os import time import sys class NullDevice: def write(self, s): pass def daemonize(): if (not os.fork()): # get our own session and fixup std[in,out,err] os.setsid() sys.stdin.close() sys.stdout = NullDevice() sys.stderr = NullDevice() if (not os.fork()): # hang around till adopted by init ppid = os.getppid() while (ppid != 1): time.sleep(0.5) ppid = os.getppid() else: # time for child to die os._exit(0) else: # wait for child to die and then bail os.wait() sys.exit() -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfed092.3010...@cox.net
Re: daemonizing a command
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 2:52 PM, Israel Garcia wrote: > Hi, > > I need to daemonize this command on a debian lenny? > > ruby apd.rb > > It's a simple app for my network. > > I was thinking to use nohup ruby app.rb & at rc.local, but I want to > know if there's other ways to do it. It's been awhile since I wrote such a script, so the details aren't at the tip of my tongue, but the following helped me when I did. Perhaps it will help. http://www.debian-administration.org/article/Making_scripts_run_at_boot_time_with_Debian > > -- > Regards; > Israel Garcia > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/aanlktildf701nd0cdwoegvxjp56o3m7h3zszqg882...@mail.gmail.com > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimmnsao83pba4bbgpjmgei8fl8vx7pqg1qht...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Monitoring network activity
On 27/05/10 15:08, Liam O'Toole wrote: On 2010-05-27, AG wrote: On 27/05/10 10:44, Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi, How would I go about finding out what application is connecting to the web and/ or what is connecting to my machine to cause the modem light activity? i think that with wireshark or ntop you should obtain the information you need. Regards M Hi and thanks for responding Mirco, François, and Michal After looking at the options, I decided on Wireshark and am giving that a test run. Bit of a learning curve, but appears to do the job. Thanks for the suggestions. Best AG Even more choices: iptraf, tcpdump. Choices ... choices - the blessing/ curse of OSS :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfec9c9.7010...@gmail.com
daemonizing a command
Hi, I need to daemonize this command on a debian lenny? ruby apd.rb It's a simple app for my network. I was thinking to use nohup ruby app.rb & at rc.local, but I want to know if there's other ways to do it. -- Regards; Israel Garcia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktildf701nd0cdwoegvxjp56o3m7h3zszqg882...@mail.gmail.com
Ugrade from Lenny to Squeeze on old PC Box
Hi, I have an old PC Box on which I was run Debian Lenny with kernel 2.6.26-2-486. I used it as a Desktop for small jobs. Yesterday I decided to upgrade it to Squeeze. I did the following: 1 change the lenny to squeeze in sources.list 2 sudo aptitude update 3 sudo aptitude install apt dpkg aptitude 4 sudo aptitude full-upgrade When the full-upgrade process come to the 'udev' package, it can't upgrade to the squeeze version because the running kernel version wasn't enough new. So I decided to force the udev upgrade with creating the file: 'that I can't remember which name has'. After successfully upgrade udev and the remain packages, I install - or reinstall linux-image-2.6.30-2-486 and linux-image-2.6.32-3-486. I have installed the GRUB2 too but yet remain in testing state. When I booth with the linux-image-2.6.30-2-486 or linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 kernel I can't get the HOME and other directories but when I booth with the old kernel 2.6.26-2-486 then I get the HOME directory and can use the Squeeze system. How can I fix this so I can use the linux-image-2.6.32-3-486 kernel? Any advices will be appreciated! -- Regards, Paul Chany You can freely correct my English. http://csanyi-pal.info -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87d3wh9lor@debian-laptop.localdomain
Re: Dependency based boot sequence conversion
On 2010-05-27 20:26 +0200, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:
> I just finished a dist-upgrade (1107 packages) and found out that Sid
> is moving (has moved?) to a dependency based boot sequence.
This happened quite some time ago, yes.
> That explains why the prior dist-upgrade was a failure because the
> partition became unbootable. I since overlaid that partition so I
> cannot research whether insserv was involved or not, but what happened
> is the boot sequence in /etc/rc.d was altered by something and you
> could not boot anymore. It felt unsafe to proceed so I abandoned the
> upgrade.
>
> This time luck would have it that:
>
> ...
> dpkg: considering deconfiguration of sysv-rc, which would be broken by
> installation of insserv ...
> dpkg: yes, will deconfigure sysv-rc (broken by insserv).
> ...
This is normal, no need to worry.
> and
>
> ...
> Setting up sysv-rc (2.88dsf-5) ...
> info: Checking if it is safe to convert to dependency based boot.
>
> error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing.
> error: Problems detected:
> ...
I suspect this will happen to many people. If you don't purge removed
old packages, it is expected to have old init scripts around that lack
the LSB headers with the necessary dependency information.
> So I have corrected the errors but before I commit myself with
> 'dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc' I want to know what the new boot sequence
> *will look like*.
The numbers in the [SK][0-9[0-9]* links will be lower, and the order
will differ somewhat. "Start" links in /etc/rc[06].d will be converted
to stop links.
> I have looked at the dependency graph per
> http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot
> but that is too unwieldy: it doesn't fit the screen and doesn't answer
> my question:
>
> What will the boot sequence be when I convert?
This really depends on which init scripts you have.
> Anybody know how to wring that out of insserv?
Try the following (you don't have to be root for that):
$ cp -a /etc/{init,rc?}.d /tmp/
$ /sbin/insserv -p /tmp/init.d/
And inspect the /tmp/rc?.d directories.
Sven
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Re: Ports like system for debian.
It isn't Debian, but Arch is a nice distro as long as you don't mind configuring more of the system on your own. I've been using Arch for a while (as well as Debian). Gentoo is also a good choice if you want tons of control over how packages are compiled (look up USE flags on Gentoo's documentation) and don't mind the fact that installation of software takes a _long_ time, since it's source based and everything is compiled during installation. I used to use Gentoo a while ago, and it's a great system, but I personally found it to be more effort than I was willing to put in and large programs took too long to compile. If you're looking for a ports-like system to run on top of Debian, you can also check out NetBSD's pkgsrc. It started out as a fork of the ports system and is very similar, but NetBSD runs the project and it runs on more than just NetBSD. They have instructions and downloads for non-NetBSD systems, and I believe it will install into /usr/local like FreeBSD's Ports does. I haven't used pkgsrc myself, so I can't give you any more information than that. http://www.netbsd.org/docs/software/packages.html -- pkgsrc home page --Kyle On 2010-05-27 11:21, Javier Vasquez wrote: On 5/26/10, Stan Hoeppner wrote: Madhurya Kakati put forth on 5/26/2010 10:15 PM: Is there a bsd ports like system in debian? I believe you're looking for the Gentoo Portage system: http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml AFAIK, there is no Debian equivalent, nor any other Linux distro, that manages and builds packages from source, in the manner of BSD ports or Gentoo Portage. -- Stan If you're talking about source based dostros like gentoo, there are others which are pretty good as well... Examples: sourceMage (I like this one a lot) sorcerer (never tried it, but it's the original sorcery stuff) Lunar (as sourceMage forked from sorcerer) There might be others based on linux from scratch as well... So gentoo is not the only option around, although perhpas the mos known among the source based distros... Bad thing about source based distros for me is that I have pretty slow old boxes, and when compiling lets say gcc, g++, gcj, and the like, well, it just takes forever... One binary distro that comes closer to freeBSD ports concept is archLinux, it has in its binary repos a "core", an "extra", and "community" provided binaries. But if you don't find what you need there's also AUR, which is a repo with pacman PKGBUILDs available and with yaourt for example you can install them almost the same way you install binaries, but what happens beneath is that the sources are downloaded, the package is built, and then finally installed... So not debian, but closer to the freeBSD approach. Another thing similar to freeBSD is the init scripts stuff, controlled by rc.conf... Bad thing is that it's not debian, :-) Also bad thing is that it only supports i686 and x86_64, plus an early port to ARM (non official project), and another port to hurd (that just started, non official as well)... Did I say bad thing it's not debian already, :-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfec1e0.3040...@gmail.com
Re: Chromium in Sid
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 06:47:43AM -0600, Aaron Toponce uttered: > On 05/26/2010 05:49 AM, Steve Fishpaste wrote: > > On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 07:18:12AM -0600, Aaron Toponce uttered: > >> On 05/24/2010 12:42 AM, Javier Barroso wrote: > >>> It is in experimental, and work fine for me: > >> > >> ...but we're not talking about experimental now, are we? :) > > > > Yup I was originally as that's where Chromium was at first. > > Sid != experimental. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you started the thread > about Chromium in Sid, not in experimental, and there hasn't been > mention of experimental until now. > > So, care to clarify your reply? Does it matter? It was originally in experimental. Because I read the Developer's list I noticed that it was moved to Sid. I only noticed that it was packaged for Debian from one of the Debian sites that echoes it's feed to Twitter; several weeks ago. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100527184222.gb26...@google.com
Re: Chromium in Sid
On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 07:27:02AM -0500, John Hasler uttered: > Steve Fishpaste writes: > > With Chromium there is no "stable" or "beta" it's a development > > branch. So being the development branch, > > If it truly has no stable (or even beta) branch it should not be > anywhere in Debian except Experimental. Which is where it was originally. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100527183624.ga26...@google.com
Dependency based boot sequence conversion
Hi, I just finished a dist-upgrade (1107 packages) and found out that Sid is moving (has moved?) to a dependency based boot sequence. That explains why the prior dist-upgrade was a failure because the partition became unbootable. I since overlaid that partition so I cannot research whether insserv was involved or not, but what happened is the boot sequence in /etc/rc.d was altered by something and you could not boot anymore. It felt unsafe to proceed so I abandoned the upgrade. This time luck would have it that: ... dpkg: considering deconfiguration of sysv-rc, which would be broken by installation of insserv ... dpkg: yes, will deconfigure sysv-rc (broken by insserv). ... and ... Setting up sysv-rc (2.88dsf-5) ... info: Checking if it is safe to convert to dependency based boot. error: Unable to migrate to dependency based boot sequencing. error: Problems detected: ... So I have corrected the errors but before I commit myself with 'dpkg-reconfigure sysv-rc' I want to know what the new boot sequence *will look like*. I have looked at the dependency graph per http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts/DependencyBasedBoot but that is too unwieldy: it doesn't fit the screen and doesn't answer my question: What will the boot sequence be when I convert? Anybody know how to wring that out of insserv? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/htmdg7$81...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Chromium Browser in Sid
David Baron wrote: A poster rightly noted that chromium is NOT google chrome. Installed it (still in 5.). Looks like Google's. Taste's like it. I do believe it loads up noticeably faster (was not that the whole point of chromium in the first place?). Flash seems more reliable as well (I understand why Apple prefers to avoid it!). So before I decide which one to keep, how can I get them to share the same configuration, options, extensions, etc. Doing that will enable a real comparison? Where do they keep this data? I have Sid's google-chrome-beta 5.0.375.53-r47719 and one major hassle is that the page back and forward keys (backspace and shift+backspace) do not work neither can a mouse wheel be used like in IW. See:http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=22683 Is that true for the chromium browser as well? Having to walk the mouse all the way to the left corner every time is a pain. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/htmc0t$14...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Blockage on Internet maps - is a firewall intervening? Was: Re: PART DIAGNOSED: Re: Trying to install Google Earth on Lenny. How on earth??????
Lisi wrote: > worse. :-( And I still need to learn about firewalls. > > I would value, and be very grateful for, any advice on the best procedure > to follow - or what FM to read - _before_ I manage to kybosh my entire > system, rather than after. > > Thanks, > Lisi google earth required GL and it's disabled or not supported in some graphic cards - check in this direction - do both notebooks have the same or alike graphic cards - is GL (DRI/DRM) enabled? On my notebook it's working with one display but noth when I use 2 (I didn't follow the hole topic (sorry)) regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/htm8h4$g3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Ports like system for debian.
On 5/26/10, Stan Hoeppner wrote: > Madhurya Kakati put forth on 5/26/2010 10:15 PM: >> Is there a bsd ports like system in debian? > > I believe you're looking for the Gentoo Portage system: > > http://www.gentoo.org/main/en/about.xml > > AFAIK, there is no Debian equivalent, nor any other Linux distro, that > manages > and builds packages from source, in the manner of BSD ports or Gentoo > Portage. > > -- > Stan If you're talking about source based dostros like gentoo, there are others which are pretty good as well... Examples: sourceMage (I like this one a lot) sorcerer (never tried it, but it's the original sorcery stuff) Lunar (as sourceMage forked from sorcerer) There might be others based on linux from scratch as well... So gentoo is not the only option around, although perhpas the mos known among the source based distros... Bad thing about source based distros for me is that I have pretty slow old boxes, and when compiling lets say gcc, g++, gcj, and the like, well, it just takes forever... One binary distro that comes closer to freeBSD ports concept is archLinux, it has in its binary repos a "core", an "extra", and "community" provided binaries. But if you don't find what you need there's also AUR, which is a repo with pacman PKGBUILDs available and with yaourt for example you can install them almost the same way you install binaries, but what happens beneath is that the sources are downloaded, the package is built, and then finally installed... So not debian, but closer to the freeBSD approach. Another thing similar to freeBSD is the init scripts stuff, controlled by rc.conf... Bad thing is that it's not debian, :-) Also bad thing is that it only supports i686 and x86_64, plus an early port to ARM (non official project), and another port to hurd (that just started, non official as well)... Did I say bad thing it's not debian already, :-) -- Javier. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilmgpeaqtyx-w5mo2czt2pjmkvuywnrsj51o...@mail.gmail.com
Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
2010/5/26 Joachim Wiedorn : > Harald Braumann wrote on Tue, 25 May 2010: >> >> On simple standard system -- one disk, one kernel in /boot, no fancy >> stuff -- it works quite well. > > This is enough to use grub2 for new installing of Debian. > >> On other systems it often breaks miserably. Updates leave my system >> unbootable every other time. One major problem are incompatible >> versions of the boot loader installed in the MBR and grub.cfg. not strictly a grub2 issue, but os-prober creates unbootable menu's when you have dual boot systems with same /boot. Even during a new installation if the system already have another GNU/Linux it will create unbootable entries for that. See #580736 Earlier with grub I remember these are correctly configured. Plus without a single configuration file, it is much more difficult to get it to work as you like. Praveen -- പ്രവീണ് അരിമ്പ്രത്തൊടിയില് I know my rights; I want my phone call! What use is a phone call, if you are unable to speak? (as seen on /.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktiki7z6_yww2eyduexw6vofd55aldmcu-2kdq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Evony Age II does lot load: why?
On 5/27/2010 7:38 AM, John W Foster wrote: -Original Message- From: Mark Allums To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Evony Age II does lot load: why? Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:16:43 -0500 On 5/26/2010 8:22 AM, JW Foster wrote: Evony Age II does lot load on Iceweasel. It stalls at 27% every time. when I first started playing there was no issue. However when I tried to use the Facebook connect (which did not work) it started freezing the loading process at 27%. Anyone playing this game? Any tips. It does work fine on a Windows box. Thanks! John Are you using Gnash or Flash? If Gnash (or other), try Flash. Its installer package is in non-free. Also, if you are running Flash, check to see if it is up-to-date. You may have to purge the package (Complete Removal) and then install it again. (And don't forget to restart your browser.) --- I'll give this a try. Thanks I had some more ideas, but they have fled since I wrote that. Also, I have better luck with Chrome browser than Iceweasel. - Chrome from Google or Chromium from sid? Well, I installed Google Chrome before the chromium project started, and it is what I use. It works well, though, of course, some web sites make things very difficult by relying on IE6 and Windows behavior, but that is improving. I would try (in your situation) chromium if I had a Sid system. However, chromium is in a beta state, and Google just released Chrome 5.0 Stable for Linux. So, I guess, I would pick either one. Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe922a.1050...@allums.com
Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
Samuel Thibault writes: > Paul Vojta, le Thu 27 May 2010 00:47:14 +, a écrit : >> In article , >> Ferenc Wagner wrote: >> >>> Sorry, I don't trust in the future of LILO myself. If there's anything >>> which only LILO can do, I recommend you start complaining on the >>> Syslinux and the Grub mailing lists. I suppose it will be heard. >> >> Does either grub2 or syslinux allow for single-key booting? > > It is available in the experimental branch of grub2. To quote upstream: hpa: It's trivial to add support for it (just another MENU directive) So if you really need it, it'll be in the next version. And I assume that's why you asked, right? :) -- Cheers, Feri. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87vda9tnrx@tac.ki.iif.hu
Re: Mail errors or attacks?
On Tuesday 25 May 2010 21:13:03 David Baron wrote: > On Tuesday 25 May 2010 20:06:29 debian-user-digest-requ...@lists.debian.org > > wrote: > > | > It is a spamer... > > | > > > | > > > | > > > | > It it is always the same IP, add it to the backlist > > | > > | How do I do this obvious task? In exim? I have fail2ban as well but > > | this is not catching this one. > > > > Have you tried adding > > > > /sbin/iptables -I INPUT -s 71.121.223.194 -j DROP > > > > to /etc/init.d/iptables.rules? > > I do not have this. > I am (still) using the guarddog (kde3) firewall which sets the iptables > rules. There is no "active" rules set otherwise. > > I could make it, but I think that the guarddog would override. I could add > this after the fact, however. I will try it. Did not work, even when I set it after guarddog. However, what is the point? The message is logged as dropped anyway. The messages are coming from fetchmail so something in its config might be the way to silently blacklist this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005271751.48420.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: Chomium in Sid
So I have both chromium from Sid and google-chrome from google installed, sharing the same .config directory. No problem with deleted extensions. Having both around does confuse the default browser and each will ask anew every single time. So with chromium running, I click a link on an email and the taskbar shows google-chrome starting up for the link which then appears as a tab and process in the chromium-browser session. No harm done. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005271749.57148.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: Monitoring network activity
On 2010-05-27, AG wrote: > On 27/05/10 10:44, Mirco Piccin wrote: >> Hi, >> >> > How would I go about finding out what application is connecting to the >> > web and/ or what is connecting to my machine to cause the modem >> > light activity? >> >> i think that with wireshark or ntop you should obtain the information >> you need. >> >> Regards >> M >> > > Hi and thanks for responding Mirco, François, and Michal > > After looking at the options, I decided on Wireshark and am giving that > a test run. > > Bit of a learning curve, but appears to do the job. > > Thanks for the suggestions. > > Best > > AG > > Even more choices: iptraf, tcpdump. -- Liam O'Toole Birmingham, United Kingdom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnhvsv76.4k0.liam.p.oto...@dipsy.selfip.org
Re: (OT) suggestion on terse wording of "IT Helpdesk"
On Thu, 27 May 2010 20:09:13 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > On 2010年05月27日 12:32, Ron Johnson wrote: >> Email headers are the canonical solution for this type of problem. >> >> However, I can't discover any method by which one can add ad hoc >> headers to individual mails using Outlook, Thunderbird or Gmail. >> > The difficulty is not to add ad hoc header to my email software. It is > easy to understand the difficult to add ad hoc header to my users who > will send email to me. Uh? No need to do it that way. This can be done at server-side. For example, you could instruct Postfix to add custom headers in your incoming and/or outgoing e-mails. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.27.14.01...@gmail.com
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Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
Samuel Thibault wrote: [snip] Grub1 could because it was small enough to fit in a well-known usable area in the ext2fs filesystem, but grub2 can not any more. In the filesystem, you're sure? I'm curious, what part? [snip] -t -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe750d.6060...@stammed.net
Re: Evony Age II does lot load: why?
-Original Message- From: Mark Allums To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Subject: Re: Evony Age II does lot load: why? Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 16:16:43 -0500 On 5/26/2010 8:22 AM, JW Foster wrote: > Evony Age II does lot load on Iceweasel. It stalls at 27% every time. > when I first started playing there was no issue. However when I tried to > use the Facebook connect (which did not work) it started freezing the > loading process at 27%. Anyone playing this game? Any tips. It does work > fine on a Windows box. > Thanks! > John > > Are you using Gnash or Flash? If Gnash (or other), try Flash. Its installer package is in non-free. Also, if you are running Flash, check to see if it is up-to-date. You may have to purge the package (Complete Removal) and then install it again. (And don't forget to restart your browser.) --- I'll give this a try. Thanks Also, I have better luck with Chrome browser than Iceweasel. - Chrome from Google or Chromium from sid? MAA You realize Evony is run by a bunch of lowlifes? --- Worse than lowlifes, everything indicates that they are outright scumm. It's still a cool game & I never pay them a dime. That's why I don't use them on a Windows box...They cant get into my system using Linux. I would clearly like to devise a similar game for Linux users & the best way is to duplicate a successful one with upgrades. -- John Foster -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274963892.12503.8.ca...@brutus
Re: Monitoring network activity
AG wrote: Every now and again the lights on my broadband modem start flashing which indicates package transmission/ receiving. When I have deliberately started an application to access the web (e.g. web browser, email client, etc.) that's fine. I do get a little concerned however when the lights flash and I cannot find an app that is accessing/ receiving info from the web. How would I go about finding out what application is connecting to the web and/ or what is connecting to my machine to cause the modem light activity? I've tried ps -A and ps -aux but this shows up a lot of info which makes it difficult to see any particular activity that may be responsible. netstat and ntop can tell you a lot about network connections I came across this recently, but haven't gotten around to trying it: http://nethogs.sourceforge.net/ Which purports to tell you what individual programs are doing vis-a-vis the net - sort of lsof for network connections, and exactly what you're asking for. Miles Fidelman -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe668a.6070...@meetinghouse.net
Re: make-kpkg fails writing to weird directories on dual or multi core processors
Hi Here it fails again. this is version 12.033 instead of 12.032 I downloaded kernel--package-12.033.tar.gz invoke like this CONCURRENCY_LEVEL=3 make-kpkg --initrd --append-to-version dickhead1.0 kernel_image kernel_headers All done in /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32. I am running kernel vmlinuz-2.6.32-custom1.0 and this is the error WARNING: Couldn't open directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-custom1.0: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-custom1.0/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32' make[1]: *** [debian/stamp/install/linux-image-] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.32' make: *** [kernel_image] Error 2 Again why is it wanting to write to lib/modules/2.6.32-custom1.0 when my appendage is _dickhead1.0_ ? Some where make-kpkg has done a `uname -r` which would produce 2.6.32-custom1.0 on my computer? This is very frustrating. I purged all packages and reinstalled them all including source. Please help. thanks, Rob Key
Re: (OT) suggestion on terse wording of "IT Helpdesk"
On 2010年05月27日 12:32, Ron Johnson wrote: > Email headers are the canonical solution for this type of problem. > > However, I can't discover any method by which one can add ad hoc > headers to individual mails using Outlook, Thunderbird or Gmail. > The difficulty is not to add ad hoc header to my email software. It is easy to understand the difficult to add ad hoc header to my users who will send email to me. As explained the tag in email address is to convey information from my user to me. Since my user knows my email address, that is the only place where the tag can be. I can ask my users to include tag in subject but they will not always remember to follow this rule. Imagine this: Hi folks in CDCSS co ltd. I am Zhang Weiwu and will be responsible for supporting your computer use. If you have a problem, please email me (zhangweiwu at realss.com), but don't forget to add the word "CDCSS helpdesk" in the email subject so that I can properly filter this. And compare to this: Hi folks in CDCSS co ltd. I am Zhang Weiwu and will be responsible for supporting your computer use. If you have a problem, please email me zhangweiwu+aid.cdcss at realss.com. It is obvious which works in reality. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe60e9.9070...@realss.com
Re: mount failed
On 05/27/2010 06:19 AM, roberto wrote: hello, i am trying to mount an external USB hard disk whose partitions i have previously deleted entirely; i am trying to repartition it with only one large ext3 partition but when i plug the disk in i receive the following: # dmesg | tail -24 [119345.376254] usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 15 [119345.509857] usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [snip] [119350.623374] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk [119380.868705] FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors [119380.868721] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1. i'd like to know how to create the partition again thank you very much If you're doing this from an xterm window within a DE, or -- if you've installed autofs -- the console, then these errors are to be expected, since it's trying to auto-mount a blank disk. Ignore the errors and use your favorite tool to create the new partitions. -- Dissent is patriotic, remember? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe59af.6000...@cox.net
make-kpkg fails writing to weird directories on dual or multi core processors
Hi I have using make-kpkg successfully on my amd64 dual core system until about a month ago. I did the following: installed debian testing amd64 apt-get install kernel-package make g++ gcc build-essentail libncurses5-dev linux-source-2.6.32 and any other files I needed to build a kernel I invoked make-kpkg make-kpkg --initrd --revision custom1.0 --append-to-version custom1.0 kernel_image kernel_headers ( I did not set the CONCURRENCY_LEVEL although I did try it with values 2 and 3 and I still get the same error below) The compile is fine until the package building starts. Check the errors below, where does the "_-live1.0_" come from? I did not type this in. I have tried uninstalling all the packages and reinstalling them, using standard kernels to boot from and custom kernels but nothing works. However it works fine on my laptop which has a centrino 1.5GHz single cpu. I also tried kernel-package version 12.033, 12.032 and the one that came with lenny. Problem remains the same. exec make -f /usr/share/kernel-package/ruleset/minimal.mk debian DEBIAN_REVISION=custom1.0 APPEND_TO_VERSION=custom1.0 V=1 INITRD=YES == making target debian/stamp/conf/minimal_debian [new prereqs: ]== This is kernel package version . test -d debian || mkdir debian test ! -e stamp-building || rm -f stamp-building WARNING: Couldn't open directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-live1.0: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-live1.0/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26' make[1]: *** [debian/stamp/install/linux-image-] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26' make: *** [kernel_image] Error 2 Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Rob Key
mount failed
hello, i am trying to mount an external USB hard disk whose partitions i have previously deleted entirely; i am trying to repartition it with only one large ext3 partition but when i plug the disk in i receive the following: # dmesg | tail -24 [119345.376254] usb 4-3: new high speed USB device using ehci_hcd and address 15 [119345.509857] usb 4-3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice [119345.510949] scsi5 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices [119345.511407] usb 4-3: New USB device found, idVendor=14cd, idProduct=6600 [119345.511417] usb 4-3: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=3, SerialNumber=2 [119345.511426] usb 4-3: Product: USB 2.0 IDE DEVICE [119345.511432] usb 4-3: Manufacturer: Super Top [119345.511439] usb 4-3: SerialNumber: ?? [119345.511455] usb-storage: device found at 15 [119345.511461] usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning [119350.508579] usb-storage: device scan complete [119350.509767] scsi 5:0:0:0: Direct-Access Maxtor 6 L160P0 PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 [119350.553161] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] 320173056 512-byte hardware sectors (163929 MB) [119350.584442] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [119350.584456] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [119350.584464] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [119350.591895] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] 320173056 512-byte hardware sectors (163929 MB) [119350.597776] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Write Protect is off [119350.597790] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Mode Sense: 03 00 00 00 [119350.597797] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Assuming drive cache: write through [119350.597806] sda: sda1 [119350.623374] sd 5:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI disk [119380.868705] FAT: bogus number of reserved sectors [119380.868721] VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev sda1. i'd like to know how to create the partition again thank you very much -- roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimz58khimti3qkkcvlgsbgehpf3p2gvwwszh...@mail.gmail.com
Re: partitioning a new hard disk
On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 3:27 AM, Ron Johnson wrote: > > Which is the "real" XP partition, sda2 or sda5? > > If nothing's on sda5, then that should be more than enough for a laptop > install. > it seems i am not an Xp expert anymore ... i totally missed that the VAIO_ (aka D:) partition is totally empty :) i'll place squeeze there -- roberto -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktilcqlc1zrdtqnmsfha12zmy3nfeg2arljvdq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Monitoring network activity
On 27/05/10 10:44, Mirco Piccin wrote: Hi, > How would I go about finding out what application is connecting to the > web and/ or what is connecting to my machine to cause the modem > light activity? i think that with wireshark or ntop you should obtain the information you need. Regards M Hi and thanks for responding Mirco, François, and Michal After looking at the options, I decided on Wireshark and am giving that a test run. Bit of a learning curve, but appears to do the job. Thanks for the suggestions. Best AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe4d82.1030...@gmail.com
Re: make-kpkg fails writing to weird directories on dual or multi core processors
Hi Rob, > WARNING: Couldn't open directory /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-live1.0: No such file or directory FATAL: Could not open /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26/debian/linux-image-/lib/modules/2.6.32-live1.0/modules.dep.temp for writing: No such file or directory make[2]: *** [_modinst_post] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26' make[1]: *** [debian/stamp/install/linux-image-] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26' make: *** [kernel_image] Error 2 << /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.26 /mnt/linux/src/linux-source-2.6.26 right place is the source? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/mtelekom-vm.20100427123135.40...@maxbe08a.t-online.private
Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow
On 05/27/2010 03:28 PM, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 01:55:39PM +0800, Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) wrote: Hi, First, I would like to apologize for the out-of-topic post. I will keep this as short as I possibly could. Does anybody know Dr. Francis T. Seow, the former Solicitor-General from the Republic of Singapore? I want to contact him but can't seem to find his email address or telephone number on the internet. Could you help me? Do you also know how I can contact all the justices of the Judicial Committee of the UK Privy Council and all the Lords of the UK House of Lords? According to the UK Parliament website, it says that many Peers do not have public email addresses. www.jcpc.gov.uk - Google search for judicial committee of the Privy Council found this immediately I had earlier sent emails to the JCPC already. It's just that I don't have the email addresses of the individual lords. My inbox is TO quiet. Strange. I would like to apologize again for using this platform to get my message across as my email accounts may have been compromised. Thank you very much. Yours sincerely, --- Mr. Teo En Ming Hanyu Pinyin Name: Zhang Enming Facebook: Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Photo (1): http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7534/enmingteodscf2511.jpg Photo (2): http://i.imgur.com/CLifZ.jpg Mobile Phone (Starhub Pre-paid): +65-8369-2618 Singapore Citizen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe4c55.4020...@gmail.com
Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow
Dear Christopher, I have sent countless emails to many governmental, non-governmental and international organizations in the world with the subject "Plea for Medical Help/Assistance". But surprisingly I get very few replies. Maybe the replies have been deleted or the emails I sent have been deleted. EDIT: I overheard my neighbours claiming to have passwords/access to my email accounts. --- Mr. Teo En Ming Hanyu Pinyin Name: Zhang Enming Facebook: Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Photo (1): http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7534/enmingteodscf2511.jpg Photo (2): http://i.imgur.com/CLifZ.jpg Mobile Phone (Starhub Pre-paid): +65-8369-2618 Singapore Citizen On 05/27/2010 01:59 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Do you also know how I can contact all the justices of the Judicial Committee of the UK Privy Council and all the Lords of the UK House of Lords? According to the UK Parliament website, it says that many Peers do not have public email addresses. In Lucid you will find them in /etc/email/PrivyCouncil.txt and /etc/email/HouseOfLords.txt Or he could just ask the Lord of Privies. In fact, I reckon he'd even be invited for tea too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe4504.6090...@gmail.com
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
Hi > I meant "using testing and unstable packages in Lenny".. There are two way2 to do the job: backports (as Camaleón suggests) apt-pinning (as John suggests) Regards M
Re: Monitoring network activity
On 27/05/2010 10:44, François TOURDE wrote: > Le 14756ième jour après Epoch, > AG écrivait: > >> Is there a bash command (or a GUI app) that will identify what the >> connection is and who/ what initiated it, etc.? wireshark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe3fcd.3050...@ionic.co.uk
Blockage on Internet maps - is a firewall intervening? Was: Re: PART DIAGNOSED: Re: Trying to install Google Earth on Lenny. How on earth??????
On Tuesday 25 May 2010 01:44:44 godo wrote: > > It is, at least in part, due to a problem on my box. I had been > > installing Fedora on another box and when it finished I tried Google maps > > - and bingo! So it is neither me nor my router, but my box. I clearly > > have to solve this, but not tonight. I am running a more or less vanilla Lenny and KDE 3.5.10 on my Desktop. I have now tried on my husband's desktop, and that too is fine for maps etc., and he has vanilla Lenny with KDE 3.5.10. So the problem is confined to my own desktop. I have been ruminating on it, and think it just possible that I have found the root of the problem. I had recently downloaded three firewall applications, Shorewall, Firehol and Fwbuilder, to see whether, by looking at them and reading their helpfiles, I could get past my woeful ignorance of firewalls. I had not so far done anything at all with them, let alone tried to use them, not even, until last night, looked at them. But Firehol is complaining when I boot up that some config file or other that it uses is not yet configured. I don't have time to read the message properly as it flashes past, but it is marked as an error during the booting process. So it looks as tho' at least Firehol is trying to do something. Could this therefore be the problem? As I say, my ignorance on the topic of firewalls is distressingly abysmal. :-( I am at a loss to know where to start or what to look at, or even what question to ask Google. I could obviously purge all of them and see if that solved the problem, but am afraid that purging them would not totally remove every trace, and therefore might make things worse. :-( And I still need to learn about firewalls. I would value, and be very grateful for, any advice on the best procedure to follow - or what FM to read - _before_ I manage to kybosh my entire system, rather than after. Thanks, Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201005271054.05131.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Monitoring network activity
Le 14756ième jour après Epoch, AG écrivait: > Is there a bash command (or a GUI app) that will identify what the > connection is and who/ what initiated it, etc.? Maybe ntop could help you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871vcxhe5h@fermat.tourde.home
Re: Monitoring network activity
Hi, > How would I go about finding out what application is connecting to the > web and/ or what is connecting to my machine to cause the modem > light activity? i think that with wireshark or ntop you should obtain the information you need. Regards M
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:09:04 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: > Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file > for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I > remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I successfully > created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to get this steps? There is an old how-to here: Debian Backporting HowTo http://debian.ethz.ch/pub/debian-backports/utils/Backport-HOWTO.html But seems unfinished :-? Maybe you can ask in debian backport mailing list to get an accurate (and most updated) response on how to get this done: http://lists.backports.org/mailman/listinfo/backports-users Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.27.09.39...@gmail.com
Re: [URGENT] Assistance Requested in Looking for Dr Francis T. Seow, Harvard Law School Research Fellow
Dear Christopher, I have sent countless emails to many governmental, non-governmental and international organizations in the world with the subject "Plea for Medical Help/Assistance". But surprisingly I get very few replies. Maybe the replies have been deleted or the emails I sent have been deleted. My neighbours claim to have passwords to my email accounts. --- Mr. Teo En Ming Hanyu Pinyin Name: Zhang Enming Facebook: Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Photo (1): http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7534/enmingteodscf2511.jpg Photo (2): http://i.imgur.com/CLifZ.jpg Mobile Phone (Starhub Pre-paid): +65-8369-2618 Singapore Citizen On 05/27/2010 01:59 PM, Christopher Chan wrote: Do you also know how I can contact all the justices of the Judicial Committee of the UK Privy Council and all the Lords of the UK House of Lords? According to the UK Parliament website, it says that many Peers do not have public email addresses. In Lucid you will find them in /etc/email/PrivyCouncil.txt and /etc/email/HouseOfLords.txt Or he could just ask the Lord of Privies. In fact, I reckon he'd even be invited for tea too. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe3dea.4050...@gmail.com
Monitoring network activity
Hi List Every now and again the lights on my broadband modem start flashing which indicates package transmission/ receiving. When I have deliberately started an application to access the web (e.g. web browser, email client, etc.) that's fine. I do get a little concerned however when the lights flash and I cannot find an app that is accessing/ receiving info from the web. How would I go about finding out what application is connecting to the web and/ or what is connecting to my machine to cause the modem light activity? I've tried ps -A and ps -aux but this shows up a lot of info which makes it difficult to see any particular activity that may be responsible. Is there a bash command (or a GUI app) that will identify what the connection is and who/ what initiated it, etc.? I'm using an up-to-date testing installation. Thanks for any help. AG -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe377b.3040...@gmail.com
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:09 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: > Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file > for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I > remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I > successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to > get this steps? Take a look at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/05/msg01325.html and in particular the "Stable + backports + simple sid backports" section. good luck Wolodja -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: ./configure options used for binary packges
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 04:43 +0300, Skirmantas wrote: > I would like to see what options where used to "./configure" this > binary package: > http://packages.debian.org/lenny/libapache2-mod-php5 > (and some others) That is easy. Just issue "apt-get source libapache2-mod-php5" and take a look at its debian/rules file. You might need to add a suitable deb-src line to your sources.list. > I am trying to build php-5.3 from source and I would like to use > those options as my base. Is it a necessity to use upstreams version? If not: 1. Add a deb-src line for your current release to your sources.list 2. aptitude build-dep packagename 3. apt-get source packagename 4. Edit packagename-version/debian/rules to your liking. 5. dpkg-buildpackage -rfakeroot -uc -us 6. dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb > However I can't figure it out where to find them. Did I missed something? A basic understanding of Debian packaging maybe :-p Take a look at http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ if you want to know more. -- .''`. Wolodja Wentland : :' : `. `'` 4096R/CAF14EFC `- 081C B7CD FF04 2BA9 94EA 36B2 8B7F 7D30 CAF1 4EFC signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 10:44 AM, John A. Sullivan III wrote: > On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:09 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: >> Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file >> for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I >> remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I >> successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to >> get this steps? > > I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you mean rebuilding packages, > you can look here: > http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20 > > If you mean using testing and unstable packages in Lenny, you may want > to search on "debian apt pinning". Good luck - John I meant "using testing and unstable packages in Lenny".. thanks john regards, Israel. > > > -- Regards; Israel Garcia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinpzd22i3y5vasfrmszokleedkzhsacscptj...@mail.gmail.com
Re: installing deb files from unstable or testing
On Thu, 2010-05-27 at 10:09 +0200, Israel Garcia wrote: > Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file > for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I > remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I > successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to > get this steps? I'm not entirely sure what you mean. If you mean rebuilding packages, you can look here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/20 If you mean using testing and unstable packages in Lenny, you may want to search on "debian apt pinning". Good luck - John -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1274949895.3499.6.ca...@localhost
Re: (OT) suggestion on terse wording of "IT Helpdesk"
On Thu, 27 May 2010 10:32:51 +0800, Zhang Weiwu wrote: > On 2010年05月25日 15:48, Camaleón wrote: >> Hard to tell as you are not providing many details :-) > > Perhaps culture difference does play a role in this. Or perpahs you didn't properly explain your main goal. Sub-addressing (+) is a very well-known system (at least for people in the know which operates mail servers) but your first concern was directed to e-mail address "length" and then you asked what could be done for make it "shorter". I for my self at least, thought you were having a problem with your "username wording" and not with "plus addressing" or mail filtering :-) > Zhang Weiwu the support engineer of Office IT services of ICD SS > > > would trigger processing rule on the server to categorize the email to > it_helpdesk request and to categorize it under customer company > "icd_ss". When I leave the post, others can easily get all my previous > communication context by looking at helpdesk support requests of > icd_css. It also makes it easy for a colleague to search other > colleagues' email in regarding to helpdesk, since, such emails do not > have much privacy concern and are made available for all colleagues. > Those emails who might have privacy concern is without plus and tags. Well, now that all is more clear, what is then your concern? As long as your e-mail address follows the RFC standards, you should not care about nothing more, provided that you don't need to fulfill any requirements and that you can choose whatever username you want :-) > I am sorry for thinking +tag use in email address is self-evident, seems > I triggered more off-topic discussions. All other replies in the thread > assume I use plus symbol for some fancy reasons. For example, Stan > Hoeppner thought the email address is designed to be readable, > duplicating the use of DisplayName. Camaleón thought the long email > address is used to convey information to my recipient instead of for the > recipient to convey information to me, thus he suggested Organization > MIME field. It seems several of us (at least me) had problems to understand your first writing :-) > One may argue we could simply use email address like > it_helpdesk.icd_...@realss.com, but the personnel's name also need to be > there for a different workflow related reason too long to address here. > > I think I will just take ... Anyway, I would go for Stan advice: keep things as simple as you can. Using the e-mail address for mail filtering is not a good strategy. You can still use MIME headers (or "body/subject" fields) to put the "extra" data on the message and then let sieve filters analyze those. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2010.05.27.08.33...@gmail.com
Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
Stefan Monnier, le Thu 27 May 2010 00:58:14 -0400, a écrit : > >> > for much. But I am opposed to the removal of lilo. > >> > Both grub-legacy and grub-pc use sectors on the hard disk outside > >> > of the master boot record (cylinder 0, head 0, sector 1). In other > >> > words they use cylinder 0, head 0, sector 2 and possibly subsequent > >> > sectors on cylinder 0 head 0. > >> Really? > > Yes. > > That sucks. > > >> and it sounds very odd: why would they do that when they can use > >> sectors on specified partitions? > > Because the question is "where?". > > Inside a file, like LILO does. > > > The lilo approach is "inside the filesystem", which can break. > > The grub approach is "right after MBR", which needs room there. > > But you can install Grub in a partition (rather than the MBR), so how > does it work then? Grub1 could because it was small enough to fit in a well-known usable area in the ext2fs filesystem, but grub2 can not any more. > >> grub (legacy) can be installed in any partition. IIUC grub2 is limited to > >> being installed in the MBR. > > Due to the differing sizes, yes. > > Why does the size make any difference? Because the availabnle well-known areas have limited size. > At least for the Lilo-like technique, size is not an issue. Yes, but the file moving in the filesystem is an issue. Samuel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20100527081222.gb3...@const.famille.thibault.fr
Re: lilo removal in squeeze (or, "please test grub2")
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Stephen Powell wrote: > But like lilo it stays out of unallocated (and therefore not backed up) > sectors. The boot block of extlinux is installed in the boot sector > of a partition, and the second stage loader occupies a file within the > partition. It does not use the master boot record. It relies on a > master boot record program to chain load it from the partition boot > sector. (I use the mbr package for that.) BTW, you can install grub exactly the same way. I usually do this because I absolutely don't like the idea to install something as important as a boot loader into unallocated sectors. Just do "grub-install /dev/sda1" and Grub will adapt its installation procedure accordingly. It's a pity that this isn't documented more prominently... Martin -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/htl90g$hu...@dough.gmane.org
installing deb files from unstable or testing
Some times ago (I could not find on google), I could create a deb file for my lenny from unstable or testing debian (done remember now). I remember I follow some steps from a blog or something and I successfully created a new version of a deb file. Can you help me to get this steps? -- Regards; Israel Garcia -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinlc7ytzhcxi9lmf583rxppybymseu_dhlv9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: microphone
Adam Hardy wrote: > > The first one on the list was one of the sites that I had in mind when I > complained about them. It's a problem a lot of newbies in a subject area > have, dealing with sites written by techies who are deeply immersed in the > subject area. The same goes for the wikipedia sites. I need an Alsa for > Dummies website. you'll need time to understand it. just try to understand or look for additional information on the subject you don't understand. > > Sorry if I gave the impression that I was writing a Java app myself - I > just called it 'my java app' because it's the only real java app on the > machine and the machine's only purpose is to keep it running. I shouldn't > have been messing around with mics and stuff. I don't know what it's about but I would revert the settings and relogin or reboot > > I do code java, but I've never tried to do sound. it's obvious regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/htl7sm$ck...@dough.gmane.org
Re: extlinux
26.05.2010 22:32, Daniel Baumann wrote: [] how about adding your parameters to EXTLINUX_PARAMETERS in /etc/default/extlinux? then they will be used for all images in the config automatically. in case that's not what you were looking for: as stated in another mail, i've added update-extlinux/extlinux-install and it fits my setups well - but any suggestions are welcome, please feel encouraged to submit bug reports against extlinux. Thank you Daniel for doing that. I use extlinux for several years already, but never bothered submitting my local scripts for doing the same. And now yours are superior anyway :) Just one question: why /boot/extlinux/ ? Why can't it be placed directly to /boot, so that all kernel images may be referenced using relative paths? Thanks! /mjt -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe1713.5010...@msgid.tls.msk.ru
Re: extlinux
On 05/27/2010 08:54 AM, Michael Tokarev wrote: > Just one question: why /boot/extlinux/ ? Why can't it be > placed directly to /boot, so that all kernel images may be > referenced using relative paths? there's more than one file used for the config, so putting them into an own directory is better to not clutter /boot with several .conf files. additionally, if ftp-masters ever happen to process syslinux-themes-debian in NEW, we would have a nice graphical menu for extlinux (and for syslinux/pxelinux etc.). having those in /boot is kind of a requirement, and having those in /boot too would be seriously unreasonable, but having the activated theme in /boot/extlinux/theme/ is. Hope that explains it, feel free to if you want more information. Regards, Daniel -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email: daniel.baum...@panthera-systems.net Internet: http://people.panthera-systems.net/~daniel-baumann/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4bfe1b9e.1040...@debian.org
