Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread thib

Charles Kroeger wrote:

My question was since this backup is on an ext3 formatted USB stick, if my hard
drive was reformatted with ext4, could the backup [image] on the USB stick be
'copied' back to the new ext4 partition, without problems, as it were.


If that software is filesystem agnostic, it will obviously require you to 
wipe out the ext4 filesystem to copy the saved ext3 filesystem back.  As we 
said already, you can then upgrade the ext3 filesystem to ext4.


Alternatively, you can find a way to mount the image with a loop device in 
order to copy the files from the saved filesystem to the new ext4 
filesystem.  Since you're using proprietary software, I must note that you 
might have a hard time with this alternative solution.


You should get better help from that software developer.

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RE: Wireless Encryption (was Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network)

2010-07-10 Thread John Frankish
 
> On 07/10/2010 12:49 AM, John Frankish wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with
> > wired/wireless connections.
> >
> > Things work fine with the wired connection, but although
> > NetworkManager displays several available wireless networks, it will
> > not connect.
> >
> > The problem is that when I select the available network to join,
> > NetworkManager diplays a dialogue "Wireless Network Authentication
> > Required" and requests a "WEP 128-bit Passphrase". Entering the "128
> > bits 26 hex digits" code for my router does not work, I believe I need
> > to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key", but when I select this, the "Connect"
> > button is greyed out and I cannot enter the code.
> >
> > Any ideas whey trying to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key" is not possible
> > with NetworkManager?
> 
> John,
> 
> According to the IEEE, WEP-40 and WEP-104 "have been deprecated as
> they fail to meet their security goals".
> 
> You should instead use WPA2-AES or, if that is not possible, WPA2-PSK.
> 
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Thanks for the suggestion, but my old router does not support either of these
encryption formats


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RE: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

2010-07-10 Thread John Frankish

> On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:49:41 +0200, John Frankish wrote:
> 
> > I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with
> > wired/wireless connections.
> >
> > Things work fine with the wired connection, but although
> > NetworkManager displays several available wireless networks, it will not 
> > connect.
> >
> > The problem is that when I select the available network to join,
> > NetworkManager diplays a dialogue "Wireless Network Authentication
> > Required" and requests a "WEP 128-bit Passphrase". Entering the "128
> > bits 26 hex digits" code for my router does not work, I believe I
> > need to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key", but when I select this, the
> > "Connect" button is greyed out and I cannot enter the code.
> >
> > Any ideas whey trying to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key" is not possible
> > with NetworkManager?
> 
> Mmm, try by right-clicking on NM icon and select "Edit connections",
> then go to the "Wireless" tab and try to add it from here.
> 
> Greetings,
> 
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Thanks for the suggestion - I'd already tried that with the same result - i.e.
that as soon as I select "WEP 40/128-bit Key", the "apply"/"OK" button becomes
greyed out.

Note that this works on the same machine booted in tinycorelinux:

# iwconfig eth1 essid "ssid"
# iwconfig eth1 key restricted 12:34:56:78:9A:BC:DE:F1:23:45:67:89:AB
# udhcpc -b -i eth1



Re: Debian Network install disk doesn't find NIC

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/>Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4

Ok, thanks for this link, I think I can work something out.

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Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Boyd Stephen Smith Jr.
On Saturday 10 July 2010 02:43:28 Sthu Deus wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Boyd:
> > pivot_root is supposed to do this in a way that allows you to umount
> > the old '/' cleanly.  It is used in modern initramfs.
> 
> I think I this is what I was looking for.
> But did You have any experience w/ it? - Works "stably"?

No.  At least not running it manually.

I'm pretty sure my initramfs uses it each time I cold boot, so it is stable.
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Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>Are you saying you took a copy of the partition using something like dd 
>if=/dev/sdXy of=/mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on this-media  or did you 
>just copy the files?

Thanks for your interesting suggestions; however, they reflect a considerable
knowledge.  In my case, I'm using a proprietary imaging software based on the
Linux kernel that offers images made of one's whole hard drive or by way of an
options menu, a list of individual partitions.

My 'working system' is on one partition, sda1 and I've made a backup copy of
this partition that is compressed into an 8GB kingston USB stick. I had this
notion that after the hard drive was reformatted with ext4 I could boot up with
the .iso Linux image that comes with the proprietary software and rebuild the
partition by using the above backup.

I've had to use this on a few occasions to rebuild my 'working system' after
certain sid dist-upgrades were performed.

I'm happy to report this doesn't happen as much now as in the recent past.

My question was since this backup is on an ext3 formatted USB stick, if my hard
drive was reformatted with ext4, could the backup [image] on the USB stick be
'copied' back to the new ext4 partition, without problems, as it were.

thanks,

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newly installed KDE: don't want Nautilus window when USB memory inserted

2010-07-10 Thread H.S.
On a newly installed KDE on a Testing system, I notice that when I
connect a USB flash stick memory, it automatically opens in a Nautilus
window.

On the previously installed system, the Nautilus window did not open and
only the removable device notifier for KDE popped up a message saying
that a memory stick has been inserted. I could then click on the
memory's icon and it would then open in dolphin browser. How do I get
this behavior back (and prevent the Nautilus browser from automatically
opening)?

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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread thib

Bob Proulx wrote:

Well...  If you (and Camaleón) feel that strongly about it then
discussing it here should just be a launching point to taking the
discussion to upstream.  Don't be shy about giving them feedback!
Otherwise how will they know?  I am sure they will have considered
this already but every vote is going to help sway them over to your
way of thinking.  However I would expect that in return they would try
hard to get you to upgrade.


They could do that, but I personally don't think it makes much sense. 
Distributions that are still using grub1 should also distribute its 
documentation - at least Debian does (see the grub-legacy-doc package).


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why don't scanner permissions get assigned correctly ?

2010-07-10 Thread briand
My scanner, a very old epson, shows up in dmesg:

Processor EPSONGT-9700  1.03 PQ: 0 ANSI: 4
scsi 11:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 3


I checked /lib/udev/rules and in the libsave rules there is a match:

# Epson Perfection 2450 | Epson GT-9700F | Epson Perfection 2450 PHOTO
ATTRS{idVendor}=="04b8", ATTRS{idProduct}=="0112", MODE="0664",
GROUP="scanner", ENV{libsane_matched}="yes"

The problem is that sg1 is not getting assigned to group scanner.

?

What would be just great is if there was a udev log file somewhere
which contained messages about which rule was matched and what was done.

This information is supposed to be in syslog, and probably consists of
the above message.  The problem, of course, is that it's not doing what
it says it should be doing.


Thanks.

Brian


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ext3 to ext4 conversion

2010-07-10 Thread thib

Charles Kroeger wrote:

My question is if the hard drive is reformatted with the ext4 file system and I
re-install that 'image' [ext3 file system] will the data be corrupted?


This doesn't really help, I'll assume you just want to convert your ext3 
filesystem (saved in an image file) to ext4.


You have two possibilities:
- Upgrade the existing filesystem[1].
- Create a new filesystem and copy the files into it[2].

  1: 
https://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto#Converting_an_ext3_filesystem_to_ext4
  2:  Use Alan's instructions to mount the image file with a loop device, 
and copy them in your new ext4 filesystem.


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Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Alan Chandler

On 10/07/10 00:36, Zachary Uram wrote:

I just got a 500gb Hitachi hard drive (this is my second drive, my
first drive is /dev/sda).
What is the best way to install this in Linux? Is it better to run ext3 or ext4?

Zach

<><  http://www.fidei.org><>




Assuming you already have a fully working system on your first drive, I 
see two possibilities, dependent on your space needs.


Either use some or all of the 500GB to turn some or all of your existing 
hard drive into a RAID 1 volume (dependent upon how that is partitioned)


(To do this, you have to create one or more partitions on your new disk 
that are the same size as partitions on your old drive.  Set the new 
disk up as half of a raid pair (so there is one missing drive), copy the 
data from your old disk on to it and reconfigure the kernel boot and 
/etc/fstab to handle the revised raid device.  Then when you are sure 
its working, turn the old drive into the other half of the raid pair.



Whether you create a raid partition or not, consider creating an LVM 
volume group so that you can dynamically add and remove logical volumes 
dependent on where you need the space.




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Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Alan Chandler

On 10/07/10 22:28, Charles Kroeger wrote:

I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by
"installing" the image.


Like I have an image of the data in a partition recorded on removable media.

The source of this data [hard drive] and the removable media containing the copy
[image] of this data both reside on an ext3 file system.

My question is if the hard drive is reformatted with the ext4 file system and I
re-install that 'image' [ext3 file system] will the data be corrupted?

thanks,

You are using the word "Install" in an ambiguous way.  Also the 
"removable media" can't reside "on" an ext3 system - more an ext3 
filesystem resides on the removeable media (maybe).  This filesystem 
then will be (potentially) mounted into the overall filesystem.


Are you saying you took a copy of the partition using something like dd 
if=/dev/sdXy of=/mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on this-media  or did you 
just copy the files?


If you now have this file, you don't "install" it to recover it.  You 
either copy it back using dd


dd if=/mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on-this-media of=/dev/sdXy

Or you could mount the file as a loopback device

mount -o loop /mnt/removeable-media/a-file-on-this-media /a-new-mnt-point/

and copy the files from there



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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Tom H wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Why is that strange?  The official documentation for GNU projects is
> > texinfo documentation.  It has been this way for a very long time.
> 
> It is strange because it would have been easy and wold not have been
> taxing to have a
> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grublegacy.html page for
> those people who need to consult or refer others to grub-legacy's
> manual online.

Well...  If you (and Camaleón) feel that strongly about it then
discussing it here should just be a launching point to taking the
discussion to upstream.  Don't be shy about giving them feedback!
Otherwise how will they know?  I am sure they will have considered
this already but every vote is going to help sway them over to your
way of thinking.  However I would expect that in return they would try
hard to get you to upgrade.

[Note: The main grub page says that you need to be subscribed to
grub-devel to post there but let me assure you that isn't true.  But
they set reply-to back to the list (evil villians!) so if you are not
reading the list itself you won't see a response.]

> Furthermore, many distributions default to grub1, Debian Stable,
> Fedora, RHEL and its clones (in the latter case, probably until 2014
> for RHEL 5 and, since RHEL 6 is based on F12/F13, probably until 2017
> for RHEL 6).

Debian Squeeze, quite soon to be the next Stable, has moved to grub2.
The others are on their own but I am sure will upgrade in due time.

Bob


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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Camaleón wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > They have moved on.  
> 
> They can "move on" without hurting users >:-(

Hmm...  Is there something in particular that makes grub different
from any other random project?  Does every project need to keep every
version of their history available and online for all time?  Most
don't.  How is 'grub' different from say 'grep'?  Should 'grep' keep
all versions of its historical documentation online?  If the distro
happens to have an older version of 'grep' installed but the GNU
version is newer are they bad because they don't keep the older
documentation online?  What makes 'grub' special?

  http://www.gnu.org/software/grep/manual/

> > It doesn't benefit the upstream to keep two versions active.  For
> > better or for worse this is mostly how all upstreams work.
> 
> Hey, we are talking about "documentation", not the full project. GRUB 
> legacy code will be still available while not actively developed, that's 
> fine, at least for me it makes sense. But deleting the online 
> documentacion just because the project is old/deprecated... wow, I cannot 
> understand that decision.

Isn't that just standard operating procedure?  Don't most projects
update in place?  Should 'gawk' also keep the documentation for older
versions online?

  http://www.gnu.org/software/gawk/manual/

> Anyway, GRUB legacy is still installed by default in some major 
> distributions (i.e., openSUSE).

Then if it benefits their users isn't the responsibility of OpenSuSE
to provide documentation that matches their distribution?  (And I
would say the same about Debian.)

> >> > >> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is
> >> > >> > very useful (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph
> >> > >> > or give it a quick review).
> > 
> > True.  But you can always quote the parts to which you are referring.
> 
> (...)
> 
> Not always. I can be on non-linux system without access to any "man grub" 
> nor "info grub" :-/

For me I wouldn't ever be on such a system.  :-) :-)

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Re: kopete start-up default status (yahoo protocol)

2010-07-10 Thread Rares Aioanei

Thanks Andrei, but since my main machine died yesterday, I can't really
do the suggested things. However, will do as soon as I get my box 
up'n'running.


Regards,


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Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by 
>"installing" the image.

Like I have an image of the data in a partition recorded on removable media.

The source of this data [hard drive] and the removable media containing the copy
[image] of this data both reside on an ext3 file system.

My question is if the hard drive is reformatted with the ext4 file system and I
re-install that 'image' [ext3 file system] will the data be corrupted?

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Re: Upgrading from Etch to Lenny ends in SSH problems

2010-07-10 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Thu, Jul 08, 2010 at 05:52:22PM +0200, Wouter van Vliet / Interpotential 
wrote:
> Ok, so apparently the problem had all sorts of things to do with the host
> key being blacklisted, and therefore labeled as 'compromised'. Of course one
> can't SSH in anymore in such a situation.
> 
> How to prevent it? Well, I probably should have checked with ssh-vulnkey
> before doing the upgrade.

I actually wonder why the problem didn't hurt you before that. If you
had a bad host key for so long, you must have recieved some
warnings/errors about it from some ssh clients.

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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 4:27 PM, Paul E Condon
 wrote:

> I'm sorry for my misunderstanding of your relationship to this
> wierdness.

No problem.

> And thanks for your added information that access to the
> old docs is decaying as we speak. Not good, IMHO.

You're welcome. Someone more familiar with google might be able to
coax it into leading him/her to the lost manual...


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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 5:00 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> Paul E Condon wrote:
>> Tom H wrote:
>> > Paul E Condon wrote:
>> > > Tom H wrote:
>> > >> Camaleón wrote:
>> > >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as 
>> > >> >> gnu is
>> > >> >> concerned, there must only be one grub...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > How bad! :-(
>
> They have moved on.  It doesn't benefit the upstream to keep two
> versions active.  For better or for worse this is mostly how all
> upstreams work.
>
>> > >> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is very 
>> > >> > useful
>> > >> > (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph or give it a quick
>> > >> > review).
>
> True.  But you can always quote the parts to which you are referring.
>
>> > The first has the following at the top:
>> > 'You can browse the documentation of GNU GRUB by "info grub" on your
>> > shell prompt (or use your favorite Info browser, if you don't like
>> > info).'
>> >
>> > Strange decision...
>
> Why is that strange?  The official documentation for GNU projects is
> texinfo documentation.  It has been this way for a very long time.

It is strange because it would have been easy and wold not have been
taxing to have a
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grublegacy.html
page for those people who need to consult or refer others to
grub-legacy's manual online.

Furthermore, many distributions default to grub1, Debian Stable,
Fedora, RHEL and its clones (in the latter case, probably until 2014
for RHEL 5 and, since RHEL 6 is based on F12/F13, probably until 2017
for RHEL 6).


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Re: RAID Questions

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:10 PM, Miles Fidelman
 wrote:
> Tom H wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 8:15 PM, Miles Fidelman
>>   wrote:
>>
>>
>>>
>>> shell>  grub-install hd0
>>> shell>  grub-install hd1
>>>
>>
>> With these grub-install invocations, you will not be able to boot in
>> degraded mode.
>>
>> You have to set both sda and sdb to hd0 but you cannot do that in
>> device.map. You have to use the grub shell:
>
> I'm pretty sure you're wrong on this - at least it's worked for me in the
> past.
>
> You DON'T have to set both sda and sdb to hd0 - what you have to achieve is:
>
> 1. have identical bits in /boot on both drives - so that they can be read
> before the raid array gets created
> -- if you've built with RAID-1, and done a standard install, this happens
> automatically
>
> 2. get grub installed on the MBR of both drives - so your BIOS can boot off
> either drive
> -- grub-install does this for you
>
> 3. set up your BIOS to fallback to sdb if sda fails to respond
>
> 4. set up your menu.1st to boot off sdb if sda fails to respond
>
> I'm pretty sure that things will break badly if grub things that both disks
> are hd0.

It is a standard procedure to ensure that you can boot from a degraded
raid1 array:
http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Software_RAID_Install#Installing_Grub_onto_both_MBRs


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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 15:00:53 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:

> Paul E Condon wrote:
>> Tom H wrote:
>> > Paul E Condon wrote:
>> > > Tom H wrote:
>> > >> Camaleón wrote:
>> > >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far
>> > >> >> as gnu is concerned, there must only be one grub...
>> > >> >
>> > >> > How bad! :-(
> 
> They have moved on.  

They can "move on" without hurting users >:-(

> It doesn't benefit the upstream to keep two
> versions active.  For better or for worse this is mostly how all
> upstreams work.

Hey, we are talking about "documentation", not the full project. GRUB 
legacy code will be still available while not actively developed, that's 
fine, at least for me it makes sense. But deleting the online 
documentacion just because the project is old/deprecated... wow, I cannot 
understand that decision.

Anyway, GRUB legacy is still installed by default in some major 
distributions (i.e., openSUSE).
 
>> > >> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is
>> > >> > very useful (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph
>> > >> > or give it a quick review).
> 
> True.  But you can always quote the parts to which you are referring.

(...)

Not always. I can be on non-linux system without access to any "man grub" 
nor "info grub" :-/

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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Paul E Condon wrote:
> Tom H wrote:
> > Paul E Condon wrote:
> > > Tom H wrote:
> > >> Camaleón wrote:
> > >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as gnu 
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> concerned, there must only be one grub...
> > >> >
> > >> > How bad! :-(

They have moved on.  It doesn't benefit the upstream to keep two
versions active.  For better or for worse this is mostly how all
upstreams work.

> > >> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is very 
> > >> > useful
> > >> > (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph or give it a quick
> > >> > review).

True.  But you can always quote the parts to which you are referring.

> > The first has the following at the top:
> > 'You can browse the documentation of GNU GRUB by "info grub" on your
> > shell prompt (or use your favorite Info browser, if you don't like
> > info).'
> > 
> > Strange decision...

Why is that strange?  The official documentation for GNU projects is
texinfo documentation.  It has been this way for a very long time.
Since grub is a GNU package I expect it to follow the GNU guidelines.
With GNU it is all about the source.

Debian on the other hand requires man pages.  And therefore Debian
for the most part provides man pages.  But sometimes that is difficult
when there aren't any upstream.  Some Debian maintainers create them
but not all.

> I'm sorry for my misunderstanding of your relationship to this
> wierdness.  And thanks for your added information that access to the
> old docs is decaying as we speak. Not good, IMHO.

Why are you depending upon the html documentation?  What is wrong with
the documentation included with the grub package?

  $ sudo apt-get install grub-legacy-doc
  $ info grub  # for Lenny stable
  $ info grub-legacy   # for Squeeze/Sid

Those that are using the legacy grub have full access to the
documentation for it.

Bob

P.S. Paul, you need to upgrade your system to handle UTF-8
characters.  :-) Your mutt seems configured to produce only us-ascii.
Check your send_charset setting.  But it may be other problems.


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Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread thib

Charles Kroeger wrote:

If you had an image of a partition that used the ext3 file system and tried
to install this image unto a freshly partitioned hard drive with an ext4 file
system, would the image be destroyed or corrupted?


I'm sorry I really don't understand, please define what you mean by 
"installing" the image.


Random guesses:
- If you want to restore the image then upgrade the ext3 filesystem to ext4, 
there's no problem;  you can find some procedures around the net, although 
generally just mounting the filesystem as ext4 will do the trick.  Note 
however that only newer files will take advantage of most ext4 features 
(extents,..).
- If you want to restore the ext3 filesystem image in a separate partition 
than the one containing the existing (and new) ext4 filesystem, then there's 
no problem either, you can mount any filesystem on any other filesystem, as 
long as they have enough POSIX features (AFAIK).


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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100710_155720, Tom H wrote:
> On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Paul E Condon
>  wrote:
> > On 20100710_103920, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camale?n  wrote:
> >> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camale?n wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>> But it have been desiderable to name it "GRUB2" or something like that
> >> >>> to prevent old GRUB users to be more confused than they are now with 2
> >> >>> GRUBs in play :-)
> >> >>
> >> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as gnu is
> >> >> concerned, there must only be one grub...
> >> >
> >> > How bad! :-(
> >> >
> >> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is very useful
> >> > (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph or give it a quick
> >> > review).
> >>
> >> True. You can still access the google-cache of the grub1 manual.
> >
> > How long will the google-cache of this information be available?
> > Things in Debian don't move on google/internet time, IMHO. They are
> > generally much slower. Some people will still be struggling with
> > systems that use the older versions long after Google had given them
> > much lower status.
> >
> > In order to help those who are stragglers in the rush to the future,
> > it would be nice if you could put a hotlink to the GRUB Legacy manual,
> > which is archived at gnu.org directly after its first mention (which
> > is in the History section of your document)
> 
> I seem to have given you the impression that I am affiliated with gnu
> or grub; I'm not; I'm sorry.
> 
> I stumbled upon the link that I posted earlier because I followed my
> bookmarked link to the grub1 manual and landed on the grub2 manual...
> 
> I have just tried the same search and am unable to find the same
> cached document.
> 
> The only grub legacy pages that I can find on gnu.org are:
> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-support.en.html
> http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy.en.html
> 
> The first has the following at the top:
> 'You can browse the documentation of GNU GRUB by "info grub" on your
> shell prompt (or use your favorite Info browser, if you don't like
> info).'
> 
> Strange decision...

I'm sorry for my misunderstanding of your relationship to this
wierdness.  And thanks for your added information that access to the
old docs is decaying as we speak. Not good, IMHO.

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Re: web client openvpn

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Jesus arteche wrote:
> Can anyone tell me if a web client for openvpn or another vpn server
> exists...or something like a firefox plugin that makesthe user doesnt
> install an aplication for using the vpn?

A web client for OpenVPN doesn't really make sense to me.  OpenVPN
creates a system level encrypted network connection.  It joins
networks together.  But a browser is a userland appliance.  It
wouldn't have the permission to do anything outside at the system
level.  That would require reaching out of the sandbox.

Also, if you are asking if you could do something inside the browser
only then the browser already supports https protocol with SSL
connections.  Those are already encrypted connections.  The client
side browser already has full support for all of this.

On the other hand you may be asking if there is a server side module
that could be created on a system so that you could use your web
browser to connect in a way similar to ssh or something to provide
access?  Those do exist but I don't use them myself and so don't know
of one to suggest off the top of my head.

Also, depending upon what you are trying to do you might be able to
use one of the userland fusefs applications.  Using sshfs for example
you can mount another host's filesystem on the local machine.  You can
browse files, edit files, and mostly full access, all over the secure
ssh connection and all in userland.

  $ apt-cache show sshfs

  Description: filesystem client based on SSH File Transfer Protocol
   sshfs is a filesystem client based on the SSH File Transfer Protocol.
   Since most SSH servers already support this protocol it is very easy
   to set up: i.e. on the server side there's nothing to do.  On the
   client side mounting the filesystem is as easy as logging into the
   server with ssh.

Bob


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Re: console: turning to the primary state.

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Carl Johnson wrote:
> Tom  writes:
> > Sometimes after some bad output in console...
> > 
> >>> How I can turn such a terminal to its primary state?
> >>
> >> "Ctrl+C" and sometimes "Ctrl+Z".
> >
> > Or "reset"?

'reset' should work.  It sends an escape sequence to the terminal
emulator that triggers it to initialize itself.  But the terminal
already needs to be in a relatively sane operating mode in order to
enter and invoke it.  If it isn't, then it won't.

> Sometimes it won't recognize CR either, but I have found that ^J
> (Control-J) always works in those cases.  In that case "^Jreset^J"
> should work.

Hmm...  Those address problems with the tty driver being configured
with output post processing disabled, echo turned off, raw mode turned
on, etc.  AFAIK it isn't possible to get into that state by "bad
output" to the console.

I read bad output and think that someone did something such as 'cat
/bin/sh' or some such and the binary characters to the terminal
confused the terminal emulator.  (It is almost always a terminal
emulator these days.  How many people use an actual hardware terminal
anymore?  [If you feel compelled to answer, please do so in another
thread. :-) ])

Therefore I reason that if it is an unusable terminal state due to
binary output to the terminal then I think the solution must require
some reset of the terminal emulator.

Bob


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Re: console: turning to the primary state.

2010-07-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Sthu Deus wrote:
> Well. I was speaking about KDE's console (that are shown with ps
> output as pts/N) and also normal console (that are shown with ps
> output as ttyM).

Well...  I read this part:

> Sometimes after some bad output in console...

That often means that binary characters were sent to the terminal
(such as from 'cat /bin/sh' or some such) and the terminal interpreted
that splat of binary data as an escape sequence and did whatever those
commands told it to do.  This often leaves a terminal emulator in a
bad state.

Since you didn't say what terminal emulator you were using I could
only guess at a standard one and speculatively propose a solution in
that case.

For KDE's terminal or GNOME's terminal I am sure that each has its own
unique way of doing a terminal emulator reset.

Bob


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web client openvpn

2010-07-10 Thread Jesus arteche
Hi guys,

Can anyone tell me if a web client for openvpn or another vpn server
exists...or something like a firefox plugin that makesthe user doesnt
install an aplication for using the vpn?


thank you very much


Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 12:40 PM, Paul E Condon
 wrote:
> On 20100710_103920, Tom H wrote:
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camale?n  wrote:
>> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camale?n wrote:
>> >
>> >>> But it have been desiderable to name it "GRUB2" or something like that
>> >>> to prevent old GRUB users to be more confused than they are now with 2
>> >>> GRUBs in play :-)
>> >>
>> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as gnu is
>> >> concerned, there must only be one grub...
>> >
>> > How bad! :-(
>> >
>> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is very useful
>> > (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph or give it a quick
>> > review).
>>
>> True. You can still access the google-cache of the grub1 manual.
>
> How long will the google-cache of this information be available?
> Things in Debian don't move on google/internet time, IMHO. They are
> generally much slower. Some people will still be struggling with
> systems that use the older versions long after Google had given them
> much lower status.
>
> In order to help those who are stragglers in the rush to the future,
> it would be nice if you could put a hotlink to the GRUB Legacy manual,
> which is archived at gnu.org directly after its first mention (which
> is in the History section of your document)

I seem to have given you the impression that I am affiliated with gnu
or grub; I'm not; I'm sorry.

I stumbled upon the link that I posted earlier because I followed my
bookmarked link to the grub1 manual and landed on the grub2 manual...

I have just tried the same search and am unable to find the same
cached document.

The only grub legacy pages that I can find on gnu.org are:
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy-support.en.html
http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/grub-legacy.en.html

The first has the following at the top:
'You can browse the documentation of GNU GRUB by "info grub" on your
shell prompt (or use your favorite Info browser, if you don't like
info).'

Strange decision...


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Wireless Encryption (was Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network)

2010-07-10 Thread Ron Johnson

On 07/10/2010 12:49 AM, John Frankish wrote:

Hi,

I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with wired/wireless 
connections.

Things work fine with the wired connection, but although NetworkManager 
displays several available wireless networks, it will not connect.

The problem is that when I select the available network to join, NetworkManager diplays a dialogue "Wireless Network 
Authentication Required" and requests a "WEP 128-bit Passphrase". Entering the "128 bits 26 hex digits" 
code for my router does not work, I believe I need to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key", but when I select this, the 
"Connect" button is greyed out and I cannot enter the code.

Any ideas whey trying to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key" is not possible with 
NetworkManager?


John,

According to the IEEE, WEP-40 and WEP-104 "have been deprecated as 
they fail to meet their security goals".


You should instead use WPA2-AES or, if that is not possible, WPA2-PSK.

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Re: installing a second hard disk?

2010-07-10 Thread Charles Kroeger
>There's a hell lot of confusion about ext4

If you had an image of a partition that used the ext3 file system and tried
to install this image unto a freshly partitioned hard drive with an ext4 file
system, would the image be destroyed or corrupted?

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GRUB broken after upgrade on Macbook

2010-07-10 Thread Sylvain Archenault

Hello,

After upgrading GRUB to 20100706, I am no more able to boot linux on my
macbook. When i choose from the refit menu to boot on my linux
partition,GRUB is stuck with this message : "GRUB _"

I boot with a live cd and chroot to the partition to reinstall it, but
it didn't help.

gptsync is happy:
Current GPT partition table:
 #  Start LBA  End LBA  Type
 1 40   409639  EFI System (FAT)
 2 409640162946551  Mac OS X HFS+
 3  162946552319196552  Basic Data
 4  319196553488392064  MS Reserved

Current MBR partition table:
 # AStart LBA  End LBA  Type
 1  1   409639  ee  EFI Protective
 2 409640162946551  af  Mac OS X HFS+
 3 *162946552319196552  83  Linux
 4  319196553488392064  c0  Unknown

Status: Tables are synchronized, no need to sync.



When running dpkg-reconfigure grub-pc, I got this:
/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition
instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..
/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be
installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are
UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
Installation finished. No error reported.

I choosed /dev/sda3, which is my linux partition.


The last grub version working was 20100617, so I tried to reinstall it,
but it fails. I think something is wrong with the device map.

dpkg: warning: downgrading grub-common from 1.98+20100706-1 to
1.98+20100617-1.
(Reading database ... 133357 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace grub-common 1.98+20100706-1 (using
grub-common_1.98+20100617-1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement grub-common ...
dpkg: warning: downgrading grub-pc from 1.98+20100706-1 to 1.98+20100617-1.
Preparing to replace grub-pc 1.98+20100706-1 (using
grub-pc_1.98+20100617-1_i386.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement grub-pc ...
Setting up grub-common (1.98+20100617-1) ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/grub.d/00_header ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ...
Installing new version of config file /etc/grub.d/10_linux ...
Processing triggers for install-info ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Setting up grub-pc (1.98+20100617-1) ...
Replacing config file /etc/default/grub with new version
/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Attempting to install GRUB to a partition
instead of the MBR.  This is a BAD idea..
/usr/sbin/grub-setup: warn: Embedding is not possible.  GRUB can only be
installed in this setup by using blocklists.  However, blocklists are
UNRELIABLE and their use is discouraged..
/usr/sbin/grub-setup: error: cannot read `/boot/grub/core.img' correctly.
Generating grub.cfg ...
Found background image: moreblue-orbit-grub.png
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-5-686
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-5-686
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-3-686
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-3-686
Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.32-2-686
Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-2.6.32-2-686


How could i fix this? or having more info on why grub is stuck at boot
time ?

Thanks,
Sylvain.


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Re: IPtables localhost redirect

2010-07-10 Thread Mart Frauenlob

On 09.07.2010 05:54, Daniele Orlando wrote:

Hello guys,

on my Debian 5 I'm trying to redirect
the TCP traffic generated by my machine
towards 127.0.0.1:5432 (PostgreSQL)
to the new destination 192.168.1.113:5432.

I have tried with iptables many rules, but no one seams good for the task.

Any idea?




This picture shows the netfilter traffic flow:
http://jengelh.medozas.de/images/nf-packet-flow.png

Source address selection is done before the OUTPUT path.
Locally generated packets NEVER hit the PREROUTING chain in mangle or 
nat table.

There is a routing decision after the mangle table OUTPUT chain.
But you cannot do address translation there (like in nat OUTPUT).
What you can do, is MARK packets in the mangle table, and refer to this 
mark with iproute2 (ip rule add fwmark 0x1 lookup table custom_table) - 
this is called "policy based routing".



So from looking at the picture and from the theory I know, theoretically 
something like this could work:


echo "101 custom_table" >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables

fill the table with appropriate routes:
ip route add table custom_table ...
...

mark in mangle table:
iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -d 127.0.0.1 -p tcp --dport 5432 -j MARK 
--set-mark 0x1


dnat in nat table:
iptables -t nat -A OUTPUT -m mark --mark 0x1 -j DNAT --to-destination 
192.168.1.113


snat in nat table:
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -m mark --mark 0x1 -j SNAT --to-source 
192.168.1.1?


add iproute rule:
ip rule add fwmark 0x1 lookup custom_table


I've done all this for testing and I did not succeed.
I also did:
echo 0 >/proc/sys/net/ipv4/conf/all/rp_filter
not sure if that interacts.
I then put a trace rule:
iptables -t raw -A OUTPUT -d 127.0.0.1 -p tcp --dport 5432 -j TRACE

The resulting log always ended in the nat table's OUTPUT chain.
I don't know why acutally, from the picture (which is from a developer) 
it should hit nat POSTROUTING.
I'm telling you this, so you could eventually try and maybe you have 
more luck than me, or maybe the information is otherwise useful.

However maybe it's not possible, I can't tell for sure.
I would have done some ssh tunneling myself in the first place.
But I know there are people at the netfilter mailing list, who do know 
for sure. It's in general the best place to ask netfilter related questions.


Best regards

Mart


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Re: No sound in Debian GNU/Linux Lenny 5.0.5

2010-07-10 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 20:34:48 -0300, Daniel Bareiro wrote:

> Since yesterday I've noticed I've been without sound on Debian GNU/Linux
> Lenny 5.0.5. I was using a 2.6.32-bpo.2-686 kernel. While I am not sure
> if the problem was after an update, I tried connecting to pci audio card
> both speakers and headset, and in any case I have no sound. I did the
> same test connecting the headset and speakers to another onboard audio
> card and get the same result.
> 
> This is something strange because it is difficult to simultaneously have
> broken the two cards or both headset and speakers. Then it makes me
> think that might have broken something to do with ALSA.
> 
> I also did the same tests as above with a stable kernel 2.6.26-2-686 and
> I get the same results, which gives more strength to my hypothesis.
> 
> Any idea what could be the problem?

Have you tried the steps/tips from these FAQs?

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http://wiki.debian.org/SoundFAQ

ALSA (Troubleshooting)
http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting
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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Paul E Condon
On 20100710_103920, Tom H wrote:
> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camale?n  wrote:
> > On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camale?n wrote:
> >
> >>> But it have been desiderable to name it "GRUB2" or something like that
> >>> to prevent old GRUB users to be more confused than they are now with 2
> >>> GRUBs in play :-)
> >>
> >> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as gnu is
> >> concerned, there must only be one grub...
> >
> > How bad! :-(
> >
> > There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is very useful
> > (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph or give it a quick
> > review).
> 
> True. You can still access the google-cache of the grub1 manual.

Tom, 

How long will the google-cache of this information be available?
Things in Debian don't move on google/internet time, IMHO. They are
generally much slower. Some people will still be struggling with
systems that use the older versions long after Google had given them
much lower status.

In order to help those who are stragglers in the rush to the future,
it would be nice if you could put a hotlink to the GRUB Legacy manual,
which is archived at gnu.org directly after its first mention (which
is in the History section of your document)

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Re: NetworkManager Cannot Connect to Wireless Network

2010-07-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 10 Jul 2010 07:49:41 +0200, John Frankish wrote:

> I just installed NetworkManager and started to use it with
> wired/wireless connections.
> 
> Things work fine with the wired connection, but although NetworkManager
> displays several available wireless networks, it will not connect.
> 
> The problem is that when I select the available network to join,
> NetworkManager diplays a dialogue "Wireless Network Authentication
> Required" and requests a "WEP 128-bit Passphrase". Entering the "128
> bits 26 hex digits" code for my router does not work, I believe I need
> to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key", but when I select this, the "Connect"
> button is greyed out and I cannot enter the code.
> 
> Any ideas whey trying to enter a "WEP 40/128-bit Key" is not possible
> with NetworkManager?

Mmm, try by right-clicking on NM icon and select "Edit connections", then 
go to the "Wireless" tab and try to add it from here.

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Re: [info] grub2

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Jul 2010 17:27:03 -0400, Tom H wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 4:57 PM, Camaleón wrote:
>
>>> But it have been desiderable to name it "GRUB2" or something like that
>>> to prevent old GRUB users to be more confused than they are now with 2
>>> GRUBs in play :-)
>>
>> This is the same url as the previous (grub1) manual, so as far as gnu is
>> concerned, there must only be one grub...
>
> How bad! :-(
>
> There are still people using Grub legacy and online manual is very useful
> (i.e., for pointing someone to a specific paragraph or give it a quick
> review).

True. You can still access the google-cache of the grub1 manual.


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Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Jul 10, 2010 at 3:45 AM, Sthu Deus  wrote:
> Thank You for Your time and answer, Tom:
>
>> You can use all of an ext4's features on an ext2/ext3 system / upgrade
>> an ext2/ext3 filesystem to ext4 with tune2fs.
>
> And there is no any disadvantages comparing it was made w/ the
> mkfs.ext4 help or tune2fs?

You're welcome.

None that I know of. A "tune2fs -l" returns the same data.


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Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 09:37:36PM +0200, lee wrote:
> On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 07:31:51PM +0200, Klistvud wrote:
> > Dne, 28. 06. 2010 18:30:42 je lee napisal(a):
> > >
> > >Yes, but I don't want to suspend to RAM because the point is to save
> > >power, and suspend to RAM will fail when the power fails.
> > 
> > In that case, pm-suspend-hybrid should give you the best of both
> > worlds. Anyway, suspend to RAM *does* save some power (and quite
> > some heat) even on a desktop.
> 
> Why would I suspend to RAM and keep the system powered? That doesn't
> make any sense to me.

If that's not a typo there's your problem. RAM **needs** power.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volatile_memory

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Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:02:47PM +0200, lee wrote:
> > If developers are not aware of your situation, they cannot correct the 
> > bugs
> 
> Still filing bug reports doesn't seem to achieve anything these days.

Do you mean that, because of this …
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?submitter=lee%40yun.yagibdah.de

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Re: suspend to disk unreliable?

2010-07-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:14:07PM +0200, lee wrote:
> It's ppl using computers and running software on them; computers don't
> run all by themselves, …

Umm, no. Someone logging in, is a major annoyance to its real work. :-)

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Re: DUN via bluetooth

2010-07-10 Thread Tixy
On Thu, 2010-07-08 at 21:19 -0400, Celejar wrote:
> Anyone have dial-up-networking over bluetooth working on Sid?


In Squeeze, I use the GUI option of blueman and networkmanager, which
'just works' for me.

1. Pair phone (first time only).
2. In blueman, select the phone and then the menu option
   Device > Serial Ports > Dial-up Networking

Network manager sees this as a new network interface, which it adds to
its menu list and connects automatically.

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CASO BRUNO - Imagens divulgadas pela polícia sábado, 10 de julho de 2010

2010-07-10 Thread communications_msn_cs_ptbr




  Foram divulgadas nesta sexta-feira pela Polícia Civil do estado de MG,
fotos que teriam sido
tiradas com um celular que pertencia a Luiz Henrique Ferreira Romão,
conhecido como Macarrão.As imagens mostram cenas macabras da morte de Eliza
Samudio, as imagens mostram com clareza
o rosto de Marcos Aparecido dos Santos, conhecido como Bola, ex-policial
civil afastado
da corporação pela corregedoria do estado de Minas Gerais.Veja as imagens
divulgadas pela policia:http://msn-news.com.br/rio-de-janeiro/policia-
divulga-imagens-caso-bruno.php



Re: IPtables localhost redirect

2010-07-10 Thread Javier Barroso
On Fri, Jul 9, 2010 at 5:54 AM, Daniele Orlando wrote:

> Hello guys,
>
> on my Debian 5 I'm trying to redirect
> the TCP traffic generated by my machine
> towards 127.0.0.1:5432 (PostgreSQL)
> to the new destination 192.168.1.113:5432.
>
> I have tried with iptables many rules, but no one seams good for the task.
>
> Any idea?
>
Hi, If you have ssh access to 192.168.1.113, you can try ssh port
forwarding, with -L 5432:192.168.1.113:5432 option

Regards,


Re: Slow signal delivery to server process with heavy I/O

2010-07-10 Thread Stan Hoeppner
Dallas Clement put forth on 7/9/2010 7:38 PM:

> I realize this test may appear unnatural and is perhaps unrealistic,
> but I would like to be able to shutdown my server gracefully within a
> reasonable amount of time, no matter what kind of load it is handling.
>   Don't want to have to wait several minutes for my signals to get
> handled under heavy load.  Could someone please explain why signal
> delivery is slow under these conditions?

Wrong list Dallas.  Try the devs list:  debian-de...@lists.debian.org

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Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Tom:

> You can use all of an ext4's features on an ext2/ext3 system / upgrade
> an ext2/ext3 filesystem to ext4 with tune2fs.

And there is no any disadvantages comparing it was made w/ the
mkfs.ext4 help or tune2fs?


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Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Boyd:

> pivot_root is supposed to do this in a way that allows you to umount
> the old '/' cleanly.  It is used in modern initramfs.

I think I this is what I was looking for.
But did You have any experience w/ it? - Works "stably"?

> You can use some of the ext4 features on a existing file system by
> using tune2fs to turn them on.  That would eliminate the need for a
> "format" and re- install.

OK. Point taken.


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Re: su and environment.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Bob:

> > $ su -c 'abc' -l anotheruser
> > 
> > but it returns
> > 
> > -su: abc: command not found
> > 
> > The abc is in the anotheruser's path, but it seems option '-l' does
> > not work here.
> > 
> > How I can accomplish the goal (without manually specifying complete
> > path)?
> > 
> The above command line worked for me.  What system are you using,
> which shell?

I do believe You - recently I had another strange experience and again
w/ bash's 'if' construction like this:

if [ "$a" == --help ]

- in one Debian 5 it worked, another - not!

I use Debian 5 mixture of stable and testing - all updated up-to-day.

Both users use

/bin/bash

version 3.2-4.
 
> Is this other user's path really getting set?  Is 'abc' executable and

No. And here the question arises, Why? As I do understand the su
manual. it says that option '-l' helps to load his (another_user's ENV).

> is the content runable (in other words, if it's a script and it begins
> with '#!/bin/bash', is bash really in /bin, or if it's binary, is the
> binary runable for the system you're on)?

Yes, it is executable - it runs just fine if I do:

su - another_user

and then in its shell run the

abc

w/o specifying the path and the abc is not in CWD.


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Re: console: turning to the primary state.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Camaleón, Lisi and Bob:

> There are terminal specific ways to reset.  If you are using Xterm
> then Xterm uses control+middlemousebutton to bring up a terminal menu
> and offers "Do Full Reset" as one of the options.

Well. I was speaking about KDE's console (that are shown with ps
output as pts/N) and also normal console (that are shown with ps
output as ttyM).


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Re: A "magical" HDD formatting question.

2010-07-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Thank You for Your time and answer, Andrei:

> No. You have to find a way to unmount the partition you want to
> format.

And no way to make such may virtual unmounting - may something like
kernels are now updated on the fly?

> Make a minimal installation in some space that you can spare
> temporarily (ex. swap partion). Make sure that you can access both
> the old partition and the external clone. Reformat as needed and
> clone back your system.

I have thought about this too, but the problem is that I have - on the
targeted for formatting drive -  single partition, and though I can
make out of single - two - through some hard work - finally, I will get
my reduced partition formatted as needed (w/ ext4 FS) but that small
partition will remain - that I have no idea how to use latter nor I
want it at all...

I can not boot from the USB - I do see the exact option in it menu
and dmidecode tells me the same:

Boot from CD is supported
Selectable boot is supported
LS-120 boot is supported
ATAPI Zip drive boot is supported
BIOS boot specification is supported
   Boot-up State: Safe

I tried all the options in the menu, connecting IDE CD-ROM w/ bootable
Debian through IDE-to-USB adapter. - No any effect.


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