Re: Format ext3 hard drives

[Todd A. Jacobs]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 6:49 PM, Dan  wrote:
> I didn't know that the inodes would take so much space.
> Ext4 would be a better option?
> I chose Ext3 because it is older and it should be more stable
> therefore better for a server. Moreover I am going to use ecryptfs on
> top of that, and I do not know if ext4 works well with ecryptfs.

Both ext3 and ext4 pre-allocate inodes, which is why it takes so long
to create really large partitions. If you want fast filesystem
creation, use JFS or XFS instead.

The subject of filesystems is a complex one, so unless you benchmark
each for your particular purposes, you'll have to settle for some
generalizations. ext4 is more efficient than ext3 because it uses
extents, so ext4 is probably the better choice for most purposes
except your boot partition.

Ubuntu defaults to ext4 with ecryptfs-mounted home directories, so I'd
consider it stable enough for most uses. You will certainly have fewer
things to think about with any ext-based partition, because it's so
widely supported. However, if you're building a large fileserver, I'd
personally suggest XFS for its raw speed and ability to defragment
mounted partitions.

YMMV.


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How to change the style and background of the Squeeze login screen?

[Rick Thomas]

No offense intended to anyone involved, but I don't like the stars and  
spaceships look of the new Squeeze login screen. Tastes differ, and my  
taste differs from that.


In Lenny I had a bunch of options for the login screen and could  
almost always find one that fit for the particular machine I was  
installing.  But now, with gdm3, I seem to be stuck with stars and  
spaceships.


I tried installing gdm, which (as expected) wanted to replace gdm3  
(which was fine with me) but it also wanted to delete a *whole*  
*bunch* of other stuff as well.  I have no idea if I need that other  
stuff -- or am I just as well off without it?


Is there some easy way I can get my login screen options back?


Thanks!

Rick


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Re: Signature debian CDs

[Todd A. Jacobs]

> I read the previous thread. I am looking at the GPG scheme to
> understand it better.

Basically, the idea is that you are confirming that the key used to
sign the md5sums is a valid *and* trustworthy key--the two are not
synonymous. This is a bootstrapping problem, especially for non-Debian
users.

If you retrieve the key and attempt to validate it against the Debian
keyring, you should see this:

$ gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg -kvv 6294BE9B
gpg: using PGP trust model
pub   4096R/6294BE9B 2011-01-05
uid  Debian CD signing key 
sig  1B3045CE 2011-01-07  Colin Tuckley 
sig  3442684E 2011-01-05  Steve McIntyre 
sig  A40F862E 2011-01-05  Neil McGovern 
sig  C542CD59 2011-01-05  Adam D. Barratt 
sig  95861109 2011-01-23  Ben Hutchings (DOB: 1977-01-11)
sig  63C7CC90 2011-01-05  Simon McVittie 
sig 36294BE9B 2011-01-05  Debian CD signing key

sub   4096R/11CD9819 2011-01-05
sig  6294BE9B 2011-01-05  Debian CD signing key


That tells you that the listed people have signed key 0x6294BE9B, and
that it is in fact the same key they think they signed. If your output
matches, then you have a *valid* key.

Now, whether or not the key is *trustworthy* is a bootstrapping
problem, because if you don't know any of the signers personally, you
can't know if their signatures can be trusted to verify the identity
of the target key, In other words, there's nothing stopping me from
labelling a random key with "Debian CD signing key" and getting some
random signatures on it--the key would validate, but wouldn't be
trustworthy.

Over on debian-cd, Steve McIntyre confirmed that 6294BE9B is the right
key, and that the people who signed it are the people who can vouch
for the identity of the key. So, if you trust Steve then you can trust
the key--that's what the web of trust model is all about: validating
and trusting keys based on who you trust to vouch for the identity of
a given key.

If you're deeply interested in the underpinnings of the trust model,
you can start with the key management section over at
http://www.gnupg.org/gph/en/manual.html#MANAGEMENT.

Hope that helps.


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Re: What happened to debian - does "stable" keep having any meaning?

[Geronimo]

Hello,

Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
> Now, moving between 6.0.0 and 6.0.1 shouldn't have been a problem, but I
> suspect you actually would have had issues rebooting your 6.0.0 system even
> without the 6.0.1 updates, since you didn't have your fstab in order.

Grub can't be wrong, cause it is working in your system. 
So, the only conclusion is: my fstab must be wrong.

Hm ...

I think, that's the same wrong reduction of facts, than my saying: grub is 
wrong.

So let me state, debian 6.0 was working fine til the last update.

On a complex system (yes, for me, linux is quite a complex system) the truth 
may be somewhat different. May be, we both are wrong.

So I did some researches with my system constellation (all 8 drives active):

1.) A fresh installation from debian 6.0 netinst CD results in an unbootable 
system, even using a single partition installation target.

2.) following the advices of:
grub-mkdevicemap
grub-install /dev/disk/by-id/ata-INTEL_SSDSA2M040G2GC_CVGB0061021D040GGN
update-grub
 results in an unbootable system

3.) at first sight it looks like ubuntu 10.10 is using the same grub variant, 
but a closer look shows, that on ubuntu there's no /boot/device.map

4.) booting the debian 6.0 netinst CD in rescue64 mode and chrooting the 
ubuntu installation, a "grub-install /dev/sde" brings my system back into play

Don't take me wrong! I'm no friend of ubuntu and changing to ubuntu is no 
acceptable solution for me.
But - if having an unused ubuntu installation is the only solution to get a 
bootable system - of cause, I will use it. 

Well, I stil believe, that some of the last update was not good enuf for 
debian stable ...


kind regards

Gero


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Automatically restart OpenVPN session

[Kaushal Shriyan]

Hi,

is there a way to automatically restart the OpenVPN session while i switch
to and fro from Wireless to Wired Network on Debian Squeeze ?

Thanks

Kaushal

Re: wmv locks entire system ever since upgrade to 6.0.1

[Steven Sciame]

I got the latest vanilla kernel 2.6.38 from kernel.org and that fixed both the 
mouse disappearing problem and the wmv video lockup problem.

Re: Format ext3 hard drives

[Dan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Karl Vogel  wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 22 March 2011 02:42:36 pm Dan wrote:
>
> D> I am using the netinst to install Debian. I have one hard drive of 160GB
> D> and 2 hard drives of 2TB. Each hard drive has a ext3 partition for the
> D> whole drive. I used ext3 instead of ext4, because that is the default
> D> value in Squeeze.  The netinst is creating the ext3 partitions but it is
> D> taking for ever.
>
>>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:19:12 -0800, Greg Madden  said:
>
> G> Not sure about the initial format but all subsequent fsck take lots of
> G> time with ext3, esp 2 TB.
>
>   If you're really set on ext3, specifying larger files and fewer inodes
>   will definitely shorten the partition build and fsck times.  I have some
>   Seagate 1.5Tb drives, and I decided on two ~700Gb partitions instead of
>   a single giant one.  You might have to fool around with fdisk to get the
>   sizes just the way you like.
>
> Using fewer inodes added a total of nearly 80 Gb of available space on
> /space1 and /space2, compared to one huge partition with default inode setup.
>

80Gb in a 1.5Tb hard drive is the 5% I didn't know that the inodes
would take so much space. Ext4 would be a better option?
I chose Ext3 because it is older and it should be more stable
therefore better for a server. Moreover I am going to use ecryptfs on
top of that, and I do not know if ext4 works well with ecryptfs.

Dan


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Re: Format ext3 hard drives

[Karl Vogel]

>> On Tuesday 22 March 2011 02:42:36 pm Dan wrote:

D> I am using the netinst to install Debian. I have one hard drive of 160GB
D> and 2 hard drives of 2TB. Each hard drive has a ext3 partition for the
D> whole drive. I used ext3 instead of ext4, because that is the default
D> value in Squeeze.  The netinst is creating the ext3 partitions but it is
D> taking for ever.

>> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 15:19:12 -0800, Greg Madden  said:

G> Not sure about the initial format but all subsequent fsck take lots of
G> time with ext3, esp 2 TB.

   If you're really set on ext3, specifying larger files and fewer inodes
   will definitely shorten the partition build and fsck times.  I have some
   Seagate 1.5Tb drives, and I decided on two ~700Gb partitions instead of
   a single giant one.  You might have to fool around with fdisk to get the
   sizes just the way you like.

   Details are below.

-- 
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Q: What's black and tan and looks good on a lawyer?
A: A Rottweiler.--John J. Irvine

---
Disk use:

me% df
Filesystem   1M-blocks  Used AvailableUse%   Mounted on
/dev/sdb1  130 6   117  5%   /boot
/dev/sdb219501   445 18080  3%   /root
/dev/sdb5 7805   418  6997  6%   /var
/dev/sdb6   699594235065450509 35%   /space1
/dev/sdb7   699601161094524487 24%   /space2

me% df -i
Filesystem Inodes  IUsed  IFree  IUse%   Mounted on
/dev/sdb1   34136 11  34125 1%   /boot
/dev/sdb2  313344 11 31 1%   /root
/dev/sdb5  126976 11 126965 1%   /var
/dev/sdb611216896 169292   11047604 2%   /space1
/dev/sdb711216896  64416   11152480 1%   /space2

Partitions:

# partition table of /dev/sdb
unit: sectors

/dev/sdb1 : start=   63, size=   273042, Id=83, bootable
/dev/sdb2 : start=   273105, size= 40017915, Id=83
/dev/sdb3 : start= 40291020, size=  2008125, Id=82
/dev/sdb4 : start= 42299145, size=2887362450, Id= 5
/dev/sdb5 : start= 42299208, size= 16016742, Id=83
/dev/sdb6 : start= 58316013, size=1435664727, Id=83
/dev/sdb7 : start=1493980803, size=1435680792, Id=83

This script ran in about 25 minutes on a CentOS system:

#!/bin/ksh -x
# make filesystems with fewer inodes, larger files.

export PATH=/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin

date; mkfs.ext3   /dev/sdb1
date; mkfs.ext3 -J size=400 -i 65536  /dev/sdb2
date; mkswap -L SWAP-sdb3 /dev/sdb3
date; mkfs.ext3 -J size=400 -i 65536  /dev/sdb5
date; mkfs.ext3 -J size=400 -i 65536 -m 2 /dev/sdb6
date; mkfs.ext3 -J size=400 -i 65536 -m 2 /dev/sdb7
exit 0

Using fewer inodes added a total of nearly 80 Gb of available space on
/space1 and /space2, compared to one huge partition with default inode setup.


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Re: Proper name, & more - Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones ; gre

[Nate Bargmann]

Phony Debian?

Runs, ducks, and does the bob and weave out of this thread!

- Nate >>

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Re: Format ext3 hard drives

[Dan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 7:19 PM, Greg Madden  wrote:
>
>
> On Tuesday 22 March 2011 02:42:36 pm Dan wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I am using the netinst to install Debian. I have one hard drive of
>> 160GB and 2 hard drives of 2TB. Each hard drive has a ext3 partition
>> for the whole drive. I used ext3 instead of ext4, because that is the
>> default value in Squeeze.
>>
>> The netinst is creating the ext3 partitions but it is taking for ever.
>> I think it has done the 160GB partition and now it is doing the 2TB
>> partition. The progress bar has shown 33% of the process for 2 hours.
>> Is this normal? Does it take so long to format a 2TB partition. I
>> would expect that the progress bar should move with the time.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Daniel
> Not sure about the initial format but all subsequent  fsck take lots of time 
> with
> ext3, esp 2 TB. i would switch to ext4,you can do this during the netinstall,
> high light ( press enter) on the file system entry and a pop up screen appears
> with more file system choices.

That is right the fsck takes very long time. I think that the
installer should show the status of the fsck. Otherwise it is not
possible to know if something is wrong or it is just doing the fsck.

Daniel


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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Stephen Powell]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 18:04:40 -0400 (EDT), Steven Sciame wrote:
> 
> What is the easiest way to downgrade the kernel as a work around
> for this problem?

First of all, please do not top-post.

If you installed Debian from a CD, there may be a back-level copy of
the package file (.deb file) on the CD that you can use.

If not, when a package is downloaded from the internet, a copy of the
package file (.deb file) is placed in the package cache
(/var/cache/apt/archives) and is installed from there.  Sometimes,
you can find a back-level package there.  An "aptitude clean" or
"apt-get clean" command erases all files from the package cache.

If the first two options won't work for you, you can try

   http://snapshot.debian.org

You can usually find back-level packages there.

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Re: Format ext3 hard drives

[Greg Madden]

On Tuesday 22 March 2011 02:42:36 pm Dan wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am using the netinst to install Debian. I have one hard drive of
> 160GB and 2 hard drives of 2TB. Each hard drive has a ext3 partition
> for the whole drive. I used ext3 instead of ext4, because that is the
> default value in Squeeze.
>
> The netinst is creating the ext3 partitions but it is taking for ever.
> I think it has done the 160GB partition and now it is doing the 2TB
> partition. The progress bar has shown 33% of the process for 2 hours.
> Is this normal? Does it take so long to format a 2TB partition. I
> would expect that the progress bar should move with the time.
>
> Thanks,
> Daniel
Not sure about the initial format but all subsequent  fsck take lots of time 
with 
ext3, esp 2 TB. i would switch to ext4,you can do this during the netinstall, 
high light ( press enter) on the file system entry and a pop up screen appears 
with more file system choices.

-- 
Peace,

Greg


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Re: Wireless............

[Charlie]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 14:31:21 -0800
Greg Madden  wrote:

> 
> 
> On Tuesday 22 March 2011 02:05:31 pm Charlie wrote:
> > On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:47:43 +0100
> >
> > Sjoerd Hardeman  wrote:
> > > Try wicd, it is a great gui-tool to easily connect to wireless
> > > networks.
> > >
> > > Sjoerd
> >
> > Thanks for that Sjoerd.
> >
> > Even when the wireless connection didn't have a password wicd
> > couldn't find it and windows sees four wireless networks. Wicd was
> > my first thought because I run fvwm. After the wireless connection
> > had a password, it couldn't find it or any other either? [laughing]
> >
> > I'll keep trying.
> >
> > Thanks for your suggestion.
> > Charlie
> 
> 'wicd' uses wireless-tools, afaik,  so just us wireless-tools
> directly. The command 'iwlist ethX scanning' will find all AP in
> ranges, even those whose 'essid' broadcast is turned off.
> 
> Not sure how to pass authentication via the cli, one of the
> wireless-tools and option does this.

Thanks Greg,

That's the way I'm going.

Be well,
Charlie
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Format ext3 hard drives

[Dan]

Hi,

I am using the netinst to install Debian. I have one hard drive of
160GB and 2 hard drives of 2TB. Each hard drive has a ext3 partition
for the whole drive. I used ext3 instead of ext4, because that is the
default value in Squeeze.

The netinst is creating the ext3 partitions but it is taking for ever.
I think it has done the 160GB partition and now it is doing the 2TB
partition. The progress bar has shown 33% of the process for 2 hours.
Is this normal? Does it take so long to format a 2TB partition. I
would expect that the progress bar should move with the time.

Thanks,
Daniel


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Problem/regression on ETPS elantech touchpad

[Pier Paolo]

  Hi all,
after last upgrade of Squeeze i am in severe troubles with my touchpad:

cat /proc/bus/input/devices | grep ETPS
N: Name="ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"

Above all I can't find an usable (not "confortable" or "more usable"!) set
of scrolling options... Since this upgrade the touchpad woked out of the
box, and now I created a

/etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-touchpad.conf:
Section "InputClass"
Identifier  "Touchpad"  # required
MatchIsTouchpad "yes"   # required
Driver  "synaptics" # required
Option  "SHMConfig" "true"
Option  "MinSpeed"  "0.5"
Option  "MaxSpeed"  "1.0"
Option  "AccelFactor"   "0.075"
Option  "TapButton1""1"
Option  "TapButton2""2" # multitouch
Option  "TapButton3""3" # multitouch
Option  "VertTwoFingerScroll"   "true" # multitouch
Option  "HorizTwoFingerScroll"  "true" # multitouch
Option  "VertScrollDelta"   "70"
Option  "HorizScrollDelta"  "70"
Option  "UpDownScrolling"   "false"
Option  "LeftRightScrolling""false"
#Option  "VertEdgeScroll""1"
#Option  "CoastingSpeed" "0"
#Option  "CornerCoasting""true"
#Option  "CircularScrolling" "true"
#   Option   "CircScrollDelta"  "30"
#Option  "CircScrollTrigger" "1"
#Option  "EdgeMotionUseAlways"   "0"
#Option  "LBCornerButton""0" # set as 8 for
browser "back" btn
#Option  "RBCornerButton""0" # set as 9 browser
"forward" btn
EndSection

here the last version.

In Xorg log there is indeed something veryvery strange:
(II) config/udev: Adding input device ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad
(/dev/input/event7)
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: Applying InputClass "evdev touchpad catchall"
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: Applying InputClass "touchpad catchall"
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: Applying InputClass "Touchpad"
(II) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: x-axis range 8 - 1144
(II) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: y-axis range 8 - 760
(II) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: device does not report pressure, will use
touch data.
(II) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: finger width range 0 - 0
(II) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: buttons: left right middle double triple
(--) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: touchpad found
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: always reports core events
(II) XINPUT: Adding extended input device "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad" (type:
TOUCHPAD)
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: (accel) keeping acceleration scheme 1
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: (accel) acceleration profile 0
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: (accel) acceleration factor: 2.000
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: (accel) acceleration threshold: 4
(--) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: touchpad found
(II) config/udev: Adding input device ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad
(/dev/input/mouse1)
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: Applying InputClass "touchpad catchall"
(**) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: Applying InputClass "Touchpad"
ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad no synaptics event device found
(--) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: no supported touchpad found
(EE) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad Unable to query/initialize Synaptics hardware.
(EE) PreInit failed for input device "ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad"
(--) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: touchpad found
(--) ETPS/2 Elantech Touchpad: touchpad found

actually i'm referring to the EE lines...

Someone having the same problem out there?

Thx, Pier Paolo.

Re: Wireless............

[Greg Madden]

On Tuesday 22 March 2011 02:05:31 pm Charlie wrote:
> On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:47:43 +0100
>
> Sjoerd Hardeman  wrote:
> > Try wicd, it is a great gui-tool to easily connect to wireless
> > networks.
> >
> > Sjoerd
>
> Thanks for that Sjoerd.
>
> Even when the wireless connection didn't have a password wicd couldn't
> find it and windows sees four wireless networks. Wicd was my first
> thought because I run fvwm. After the wireless connection had a
> password, it couldn't find it or any other either? [laughing]
>
> I'll keep trying.
>
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> Charlie

'wicd' uses wireless-tools, afaik,  so just us wireless-tools directly. 
The command 'iwlist ethX scanning' will find all AP in ranges, even those 
whose 'essid' broadcast is turned off.

Not sure how to pass authentication via the cli, one of the wireless-tools and 
option does this.

-- 
Peace,

Greg


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Proper name, & more - Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones ; gre

[giovanni_re]

Excellent infos, Shawn!!   :)  (You get 2 exclamation points.)

I'm just gonna make a quick reply right here, to both your messages,
cause they are great & deserve a prompt reply, & cause I'm short on time
right now.

1)  Your comment (quoted immediately below), from your second email, is
probably the immediate most important point, because it is the
foundation for the name of this Debian sub distro.

I knew "Android Debian" was the _wrong_ name for this, before I even
started writing my original post.  But, I used that because "Android"
needs to be the first word of that subject line (the first post about
creating this Debian sub project) - that's what people will search for
to find that email.

That's why I immediately followed the lead in  "Android Debian"  with a
short description of what that really implies:  "Debian for Android hw
phones"

Crucially, "Debian _on top of_ Android" is _not_ what I'm (& the Debian
community should be) interested in.

The key concept is "Debian on top of  _the smartphone hw which runs
Android, (& hence the Linux kernel), software_ .


But, exactly as you say, there will be actual sw for the different
processors, which presents a possible processor-based naming scheme.


As I replied to Mirco, & Jon Dowland commented on:

"On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 03:08:48PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote:
> > "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones"
> > 
> > 
> > DfAHP - I kinda like that. Has a nice ring to it.
> > 
> > DDfAHP?
> > DfACHP?
> > DDfACHP?
Just "Debian": It's the universal OS.  It doesn't need a different name
for
every architecture :-)
"

merely "Debian" is the proper super-name for the DfACHP project.

But, the sub-project does need its own name, so that people have a
useful name to refer to that sub-project of Debian.


I don't know that the correct name should be, but I can think of several
_ways to analyse it_.

a) Because it's best to have one name, we should avoid the main name
being a set of names, based on the processor - a kind of naming scheme
you (implicitly) raised.

b) The "descriptive" naming convention would compell something like
"DfACHP", but that is a rather clunky name.  That name is rather
unpronouncable, which is why I first suggested the acronym name without
the "C", DfAHP.  But, that's still a clunky name.

c) WWSJNI?  [What Would Steve Jobs Name It?] - That would be the catchy,
marketing oriented name.  Also, that might be like what Ubuntu might
name something.

Maybe something like "Debian4Smartphones". "SmartphoneDebian". ?



Shawn, here's your comment I'm referring to, from your second message:

> oh yeah, forgot to mention that you'll probably have to recompile
> libraries.
> 
> however, you probably just want to start with a popular processor and go
> from there. i couldn't find much about putting linux on devices with the
> snapdragon processor (which sucks because i want this on older phones i
> can
> get for <$100), but. nvidia does have this:
> http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/news/linux-tegra-released
> (and this is why i love nvidia stuff)
> 
> ... this is why you're not going to get an 'android debian' - you're
> going
> to get a 'nvidia tegra debian', a 'qualcomm snapdragon debian', an 'apple
> a4
> debian', etc.

Great info, Shawn! :)




On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 23:55 -0400, "shawn wilson" 
wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:16 PM, giovanni_re  wrote:
> 
> > Let's start the "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones".
> >
> > What are the first steps we can easily take, to get started on this?
> >
> > 1) Talk about how to do it on this email list.
...
> >
> >
> > first, nice research.

Thanks :)


> i'd like a hardware linux kernel on a phone because i
> don't like java and i'd love to get these devices to do cool things
> (these
> are great, cheap little computers that i can almost afford to throw
> around).

Exactly. :)

> 
> so, here's where i'd go:
> boot loader - someone put android on an iphone a while ago. you should go
...

Shawn - lots of great technical details & suggestions & info in both
your messages  :)   , which I want to reply to, (& hope others will pick
up those ideas & run with them), but can't afford the time right now.

Let's keep this moving forward!  :)

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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Steven Sciame]

What is the easiest way to downgrade the kernel as a work around for this 
problem?

debtop:/home/steven# apt-get install linux-image-2.6.32-5-686=2.6.32-30
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree   
Reading state information... Done
E: Version '2.6.32-30' for 'linux-image-2.6.32-5-686' was not found
debtop:/home/steven# 

Do I need to build from source at kernel.org or can I use apt?




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From: Wolodja Wentland 
Subject: Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 6:51 AM

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 09:44 +0100, Estelmann, Christian wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After installing all updates on the weekend the mouse pointer
> disappeared. It was like the size of the pointer were set to 0px.
> Klicking and moving was possible - but without seeing the pointer,
> it was quite hard do know where you are.
> 
> I downgraded package for package. Now I can say, that when doing this step:
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-base 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> after a reboot the mouse pointer is not showed. After installing the
> packages in version 2.6.32-30 it is back again.
> 
> I am using kde and kdm. But I for testing I have installed gdm and
> xfce - the mouse was not visible there, too.
> While starting a program, the "jumping" icon is showed and can be
> moved - like nothing is wrong.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right list, but I thought I will try.
> If you need more information just ask about it.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619019

Looks as if downgrading the kernel (as you did) is a workaround for the time
being. You do have an intel card, don't you?
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Re: Wireless............

[Charlie]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:47:43 +0100
Sjoerd Hardeman  wrote:

> Try wicd, it is a great gui-tool to easily connect to wireless
> networks.
> 
> Sjoerd

Thanks for that Sjoerd.

Even when the wireless connection didn't have a password wicd couldn't
find it and windows sees four wireless networks. Wicd was my first
thought because I run fvwm. After the wireless connection had a
password, it couldn't find it or any other either? [laughing]

I'll keep trying.

Thanks for your suggestion.
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Re: Weird WM behavior after changing video cards

[Dr. Ed Morbius]

on 19:05 Mon 21 Mar, Ron Johnson (ron.l.john...@cox.net) wrote:
> Sid (up-to-date)
> xfce
> nvidia driver 260.19.44-1
> 
> After switching an old 7300 card for a GeForce 210 (both are
> fanless), I see that the WM has changed behavior in various odd but
> tolerable manners.
> 
> These WM items are now white instead of following the theme:
> 1. Drop-down menu bg color
> 2. Button bg color
> 3. Drop-down menu "items"
> 4. Highlighted drop-down menu items (which makes them invisible)
> 
> I'm sure there are other problems that I haven't found...
> 
> This email isn't to ask for help (mainly since I don't plan on
> replacing nvidia with nouveau), but just to get it out on the web in
> case others have the same problems.

A better place for this would be the BTS (Debian bug-tracking system)
against your window manager.  Do this via 'reportbug' (from the
reportbug package).

I'd suggest setting priority to either 'normal' or 'minor' and noting
that you don't consider this to be a major issue, but one worth noting.
It's possible that this is indicating/masking other issues.

Include your /var/log/Xorg.0.log as this is probably an interaction
between your WM and the Xorg driver.

If you're using a Debina-packaged X driver, note that, if not, CLEARLY
note that you're using a proprietary or third-party video driver.

The package maintainer can decide if this is something that needs to be
addressed, but at least there will be a record of the issue.  If others
have a similar (or more severe) problem, they may be able to draw a
connection between the two.

Much better than a mailing list mention.

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Re: Wireless............

[Charlie]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 10:06:31 +0100
Jörg-Volker Peetz  wrote:

> The file /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz cited already
> by Wayne explains also the meaning of common wpa options. In a
> certain environment this configuration worked for wpa encryption:
> 
> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>   wpa-ssid dlink
>   wpa-psk plaintexpassword
>   wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
>   wpa-proto WPA WPA2
>   wpa-pairwise TKIP CCMP
>   wpa-group TKIP CCMP
> 
> Otherwise with the not recommended, insecure wep encryption:
> 
> iface wlan0 inet dhcp
>   wireless-essiddlink
>   wireless-key  thekey
>   wireless-keymode  open
> 

Thank you Jörg-Volker and Wayne for that information.

I can't get to the wireless access point for a few days, but will try
these and variations thereof Jörg-Volker. 

I have already created an /etc/network/interfaces file with different
variations and will try each one with the others commented out. I went
through the /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz again Wayne
and also kept googling. I thought I had tried it all from 2006 to the
current year, but found more ways to try to make the connection.

I also tried the squeeze installer on the net install CD, which found
the wireless network first try when it didn't have a password, to find
the wireless network now that it had a password. No joy. It couldn't
find it.

Your help is much appreciated.
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Re: LXDE fetch Failures

[Chris Brennan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Andrei Popescu
 wrote:

On Ma, 22 mar 11, 16:05:12, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > I decided to try LXDE in my VM of Debian/Testing and all went well till
> the
> > very end, when it fails to find
> >
> > [snip]
> > E: Failed to fetch
> >
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/libwbclient0_3.5.6~dfsg-5_amd64.deb
> > :
> >  404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.226 80]
>
> wheezy already moved to 3.5.8~dfsg-1. You might want to do an
> apt-get/aptitude update first ;)


That did the trick, I wonder what happened, I did a upgrade yesterday and I
checked today when I fired the VM up, no new files but when I passed update
today I got something like 3000 new packages available I didn't realize
I had that many packages installed in the VM to begin with lol.

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lltag problem

[Thomas H. George]

I tried to change the values of the Tracknumbers in a set of ogg files
and ended up with two Tracknumber fields containing different values.

Perhaps this does not matter?  The files play perfectly on my Sansa and
the current and next track name and the album name display correctly. 

Do any players use the track number information?

History: At some time in the past I used Audacity to capture the sound
tracks from an lp and saved them as .wav files to write to a cd.
Audacity would have saved them as .ogg files but at the time I did not
own a mp3/ogg player.  Now I do so I used oggenc to convert the .wav
files to .ogg files at the same time adding the tag information.  The
command line set for the artist and album did not change so it was only
necessary to enter the title and use it for the .ogg file name.  All
this worked perfectly but I had also put a track number in the command
line and forgot to change it for each file.  They all have track number
8 except for the one I tried to fix with lltag.  It has two entries, one
for track number 8 and one for track number 15.

Should I just leave well enough alone?  

Tom


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Re: debian 5 iso missing

[Andrei Popescu]

On Ma, 22 mar 11, 21:37:02, Karl Wolf wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> MAybe that's stupid thing, but I searched on archive.debian.org and I can't 
> find it.
> It's really strange, maybe I'm blind but I can't find it. I tried find the 
> netinst for amd64 on other websites, but there is only link to debian 
> website. there I can't find it.
> Could anyone tell me what's up? 
> I must install linux on Vmware and lenny is working there fine. With squeeze 
> I had some problems.
> Many thanks for help
> Karl Wolf

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#old 

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Re: LXDE fetch Failures

[Andrei Popescu]

On Ma, 22 mar 11, 16:05:12, Chris Brennan wrote:
> I decided to try LXDE in my VM of Debian/Testing and all went well till the
> very end, when it fails to find
> 
> [snip]
> E: Failed to fetch
> http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/libwbclient0_3.5.6~dfsg-5_amd64.deb
> :
>  404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.226 80]

wheezy already moved to 3.5.8~dfsg-1. You might want to do an 
apt-get/aptitude update first ;)

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debian 5 iso missing

[Karl Wolf]

Hello,

MAybe that's stupid thing, but I searched on archive.debian.org and I can't 
find it.
It's really strange, maybe I'm blind but I can't find it. I tried find the 
netinst for amd64 on other websites, but there is only link to debian website. 
there I can't find it.
Could anyone tell me what's up? 
I must install linux on Vmware and lenny is working there fine. With squeeze I 
had some problems.
Many thanks for help
Karl Wolf




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Re: X-windows copy/paste mess [SOLVED]

[Steve Kleene]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 17:13:01 + (UTC), I wrote:

> I'm running testing (Wheezy) and am failing to get copy/paste working cleanly
> among my most common windows, namely:
>
>  several xterms
>  virtualbox running a virtual XP client
>  iceweasel
> ...
> Is there any way to get all of these programs to use the same selection?  I'd
> be happy if xterm could be told to always copy to both PRIMARY and CLIPBOARD,
> but it seems you have to pick one or the other.

There were no follow-ups, so maybe no one was interested in this problem.
But I did eventually find a solution here:

  http://www.davidsimmons.com/soft/xtermhacks/

and will post it in case anyone else can benefit.  The solution was to add
this to ~/.Xresources:

  XTerm*VT100.translations: #override : select-end(PRIMARY, CLIPBOARD,
CUT_BUFFER0)

I can't say that I fully understand the syntax, but supposedly it does the
following:
  xterm copies a highlighted selection into both CLIPBOARD and PRIMARY (and
also a cut buffer)
  text is pasted from CLIPBOARD if there is nothing in PRIMARY

Here are the results of copy/paste tests after the change:

  + xterm -> iceweasel URL window
  + iceweasel URL window -> xterm
  + iceweasel main window -> xterm
  + acroread -> xterm

  + xterm -> Explorer URL window
  + Explorer URL window -> xterm
  + Explorer main window -> xterm
  + xterm -> Word
  + Word -> xterm
  + Acrobat -> xterm

  + Explorer URL window -> iceweasel URL window
  - iceweasel URL window -> Explorer URL window
  - iceweasel URL window -> Word

Here Explorer, Word, and Acrobat were in the virtualbox XP client.  `+' means
the paste worked; `-' means it didn't.


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LXDE fetch Failures

[Chris Brennan]

I decided to try LXDE in my VM of Debian/Testing and all went well till the
very end, when it fails to find

[snip]
E: Failed to fetch
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/libwbclient0_3.5.6~dfsg-5_amd64.deb
:
 404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.226 80]

root@debian:~# aptitude install lxde
The following NEW packages will be installed:
gvfs-backends{a} libsmbclient{a} libwbclient0{a} lxde lxde-core{a}
pcmanfm{a}
The following packages will be REMOVED:
arj{u} libgphoto2-l10n{u} manpages-dev{u}
0 packages upgraded, 6 newly installed, 3 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 2,288 kB/2,851 kB of archives. After unpacking 2,753 kB will be
used.
Do you want to continue? [Y/n/?]
Err http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main libwbclient0 amd64
2:3.5.6~dfsg-5
 404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.226 80]
Err http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main libsmbclient amd64
2:3.5.6~dfsg-5
 404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.226 80]
(Reading database ... 48900 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing arj ...
Removing libgphoto2-l10n ...
Removing manpages-dev ...
Processing triggers for man-db ...
E: Failed to fetch
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/samba/libwbclient0_3.5.6~dfsg-5_amd64.deb
:
 404  Not Found [IP: 130.89.149.226 80]

root@debian:~#
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xvidtune and Intel

[Steve Kleene]

Does xvidtune ever work with onboard Intel video chipsets?  It never has for
me.

I'm running testing (Wheezy) on an Intel i5 CPU (DH55HC).  Most video
functions seem fine, but if I try to re-center the display with xvidtune, I
get this:

  "You have requested a mode-line.  That is not possible, or
   not supported by your configuration"

Adding ModeLine statements to xorg.conf also fails.  Nowhere in Intel docs
could I find the name of the video chipset, but this line in dmesg:

  agpgart-intel :00:00.0: Intel IGDNG/D Chipset

indicates it's the IGDNG/D (Clarkdale) chipset, which as I understand it is
integrated into the CPU.  I have the xserver-xorg-video-intel package, and
lsmod shows the i915 module for video.

I have also never gotten xvidtune to work on my Lenny box, which has an Intel
Pentium 4 and the 946GZ video chipset.  The hardware is four years old.  I've
kept Lenny up-to-date, but xvidtune and ModeLines still fail.  I had thought
a fix might be distributed at some point.  Only on a third box with a separate
Asus GeForce2 video card did xvidtune and ModeLines work.

In one case, I dodged the problem by using the monitor's push-buttons to
center the display.  However, the button is broken on the other monitor.

Does anyone know if the onboard Intel VGA chip can support this function?  If
so, should I file a bug report against x11-xserver-utils?  Thanks.


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terminology for sound thingamajigs.

[peasthope]

Folk,

man speaker-test has 
"... --channels ... --device ... --speaker ...".

man alsamixergui has
"... -c  ... -D  ...".

The distinction between channel and device isn't obvious.  Why does 
a simple USB audio adapter with mono input and stereo output 
provide four devices?  http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA uses terminology 
without explanation.  Neither http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sound_card 
nor http://www.alsa-project.org/ helps much.

Does anyone know of a decent overview of sound hardware and terminology?  
Yes, I've googled.

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Re: Cups printing missing color profile

[Matt Richardson]

On 3/22/11, Alan Chandler  wrote:
> On 22/03/11 10:24, Alan Chandler wrote:
>> I have just re-installed my system (Debian Unstable) from scratch, and I
>> can't get printing to work.
>>
>> I find the following error message against each print job.
>>
>> "File '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc' not found"
>>
>>
>> This looks very MAC OSX like - is there something misconfigured here?
>
> I found some .icc files in /usr/share/ghostscript/9.0/iccprofiles
>
> Although the names are slightly different.
>
> I found the reference to '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB
> Profile.icc' in my .ppd file (just obtained from Debian - I haven't
> changed anything).
>
> Am I missing some conversion?
>

I got those errors as well, but they haven't prevented CUPS from
printing.  I figured it was some Apple cruft they didn't bother to
remove because it threw a non-fatal error on non-OS X systems.

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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Steven Sciame]

That is the same thing I have here.  Including the video playback described in:
http://bugs.debian.org/618665


--- On Tue, 3/22/11, Estelmann, Christian  wrote:

From: Estelmann, Christian 
Subject: Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 6:59 AM

Yes, I think that is exactly the problem I have. Thanks. And sorry, but I 
didn't found that bugreport...


Am 22.03.2011 12:51, schrieb Wolodja Wentland:
> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619019
> 
> Looks as if downgrading the kernel (as you did) is a workaround for the time
> being. You do have an intel card, don't you?
>    


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Re: Having trouble with Cron

[Dom]

On 22/03/11 17:42, Ed Curtis wrote:

Maybe someone can help out with this. I have a bash script I run at 1am
every morning via an entry in cron.d. It records an echo in a file when
done so I can record it running. The trouble I'm having with it is that
it's recording that's it has completed about once a minute from the hour
starting a 1 am until 2 am!. I'm not sure it's actually running that
entire time. I can't imagine that it would run exactly for a perfect
hour then stop. If I run the script by hand it only takes a few minutes
and records only one entry into my log file.

In /etc/cron.d/backuppublishers I have

* 1 * * * root /bin/backuppublishers

The script is an rsync routine and an echo to my log file.



Yes. You have told your script to start every minute from 01:00 to 
01:59. (* in the first field means *every* minute)


If you want the run to start only at 01:00, change your crontab entry to:

0 1 * * * root /bin/backuppublishers

i.e. Run at 0 minutes past the 1st hour, every day.

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Re: Having trouble with Cron

[Dr. Ed Morbius]

on 13:42 Tue 22 Mar, Ed Curtis (e_cur...@homes2see.com) wrote:
> Maybe someone can help out with this. I have a bash script I run at
> 1am every morning via an entry in cron.d. It records an echo in a
> file when done so I can record it running. The trouble I'm having
> with it is that it's recording that's it has completed about once a
> minute from the hour starting a 1 am until 2 am!. I'm not sure it's
> actually running that entire time. I can't imagine that it would run
> exactly for a perfect hour then stop. If I run the script by hand it
> only takes a few minutes and records only one entry into my log
> file.
> 
> In /etc/cron.d/backuppublishers I have
> 
> * 1 * * *   root/bin/backuppublishers
  ^ is your problem

Your cron spec specifies "run every minute, for the first hour, of every
day, of every month, and every weekday".

You would want to specify some specific minute:

1 1 * * *   root/bin/backuppublishers

... says:  run on the first minute, of the first hour, ...

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Re: Signature debian CDs

[Dr. Ed Morbius]

on 20:46 Mon 21 Mar, Dan (ganc...@gmail.com) wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Dr. Ed Morbius  wrote:
> > on 22:48 Mon 21 Mar, Andrei Popescu (andreimpope...@gmail.com) wrote:
> >> On Lu, 21 mar 11, 13:33:16, Dan wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > I downloaded the netinst CD image for the installation of debian. I
> >> > have an Ubuntu computer where I checked the md5sum and the sha1sum. I
> >> > also tried to check the signature doing the following:
> >> > gpg --keyserver keyring.debian.org --recv-keys 6294BE9B
> >> > gpg --verify MD5SUMS.sign MD5SUMS
> >> >
> >> > Is this the right procedure?
> >>
> >> Yes
> >>
> >> > I get a warning:
> >> > gpg: WARNING: This key is not certified with a trusted signature!
> >> > gpg:          There is no indication that the signature belongs to the 
> >> > owner.
> >>
> >> GPG is warning you that it can't find a trust path from a key you trust
> >> (usually your own) to the key used to sign that file.
> >
> > Expanding on this:
> >
> > The signature is valid (it cryptographically matches the signing key),
> > but identity is unverified, based on your (OP's) trust path.
> >
> > You've got an assurance that the file contents haven't been changed
> > since they were signed, but no definite assurance of the key's
> > identity.
> >
> > This has been recently discussed on this list.
> 
> Thanks for your answer,
> I read the previous thread. I am looking at the GPG scheme to
> understand it better.

Simply (and imperfectly):  PGP PKI (and as implemented: gnupg) provide
three basic services:

Encryption:  a message may be encrypted to a person's public key.  No
"shared secret" need be known (the sender cannot even decrypt her
message unless she's also encrypted it against /her/ public key).

Integrity:  signing a message demonstrates that it has not been modified
since it was signed.  The signer may or may not be the author of the
message (as noted here earlier).

Identification:  an entity is cryptographically likely to be who they
claim to be, /if/ you can establish a web of trust between yourself
and that person's public key.  This differs from the SSL/TLS model
in which "certificate authorities" are responsible for
authenticating a particular individual (or not).  Note that the PGP
keysigning model usually /does/ rely in part at least on some
"certificate authority", usually a motor vehicles or passport
agency, to provide photo ID which is verified, though different
individuals follow different signing protocols.

In addition to the link above, you might want to look at some keysigning
protocols:

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Key_signing_party
http://cryptnet.net/fdp/crypto/keysigning_party/en/keysigning_party.html

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Having trouble with Cron

[Ed Curtis]

Maybe someone can help out with this. I have a bash script I run at 1am 
every morning via an entry in cron.d. It records an echo in a file when 
done so I can record it running. The trouble I'm having with it is that 
it's recording that's it has completed about once a minute from the hour 
starting a 1 am until 2 am!. I'm not sure it's actually running that 
entire time. I can't imagine that it would run exactly for a perfect 
hour then stop. If I run the script by hand it only takes a few minutes 
and records only one entry into my log file.


In /etc/cron.d/backuppublishers I have

* 1 * * *   root/bin/backuppublishers

The script is an rsync routine and an echo to my log file.

Thanks,

Ed


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Re: ispconfig

[Hugo Vanwoerkom]

steef wrote:

teus.malestein schreef:

Goedemiddag,

welke versie van Debian (i386) past goed bij ispconfig 2 ?
waar is de install man te vinden ?

Mvg
Teus



hallo teus,

 ik denk niet dat je hier veel antwoorden op zult krijgen: dit is een 
engelstalige lijst. probeer het nog een keer in het engels dus.


met vr. groet,

steef

translated:

hi teus,

don't think you will see many answers. [..} try it again in english.



The ispconfig website has step by step installation instructions for 
Squeeze:

http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-squeeze-ispconfig-2

Hugo


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Re: Debian 6.0.1 ia64 DVD release looks strange

[Steve McIntyre]

On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:00:53AM +1100, Andrew McGlashan wrote:
>Hi Steve,

Hi Andrew,

>Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>Apologies, you've just found a bug in the CD/DVD creation run from
>>last weekend. I'm working on it now, expect a new release (6.0.1a)
>>shortly.
>
>How about an announcement for this when it is fixed and also one for
>the "small CDs" that were effected by an [same|different?] issue.

Once I have all the images updated I'll be sure to send out an
announcement, yes. And this is a good reminder that even old bugs can
come back. :-(

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Compiling Firefox

[Peter Smith]

I want to compile Firefox 3.6 on Debian Squeeze and place everything
in the /opt directory. I want the compiled browser to have some
security modifications. The first thing i have added to mozconfig is
the following three lines:

export CFLAGS="-D_FORTIFY_SOURCE=2 -fstack-protector-all"
export CXXFLAGS="${CFLAGS}"
export CPPFLAGS="${CFLAGS}

This makes hardening-check on firefox-bin output the following:

Position Independent Executable: no, normal executable!
Stack protected: yes
Fortify Source functions: yes
Read-only relocations: no, not found!
Immediate binding: no, not found!

I don't know what flags should be passed to gcc for activating
"Position Independent Executable", "Read-only relocations" and
"Immediate binding" or if it is a good idea at all? Is it enough to
activate the options i have to make the browser more secure?

I have to choose between using the system libraries for nspr, nss,
jpeg, zlib, bz2 and png like this:

ac_add_options --with-system-nspr
ac_add_options --with-system-nss
ac_add_options --with-system-jpeg
ac_add_options --with-system-zlib
ac_add_options --with-system-bz2
ac_add_options --with-system-png

or using the code shipped with Firefox for the same functionality. So
far i have not been able to build Firefox without using system nspr
and nss, the Mozilla version of these will not compile on Debian. What
is most secure, using  the system libraries or the Mozilla libraries?

I do not enable flash, java or javascript in the browser, but i still
thinking about configuring TOMOYO Linux for Firefox as an extra layer
of security. Anyone with experience in TOMOYO that can tell pros and
cons?


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Re:| version of Debian

[UNLEVIN]

В Втр, 22/03/2011 в 14:31 +0100, teus.malestein пишет:
> Hello,
> Is there anyone who can advise me what version of Debian server, 
> together with ispconfig 2, is best suitable for my i386
> Thank you in advance.
> Teus
> 
> 
And why not install ISPConfig 3? I read that on Debian 6 it works
stable. (although in the third version I have not worked)


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Re: ispconfig

[steef]

teus.malestein schreef:

Goedemiddag,

welke versie van Debian (i386) past goed bij ispconfig 2 ?
waar is de install man te vinden ?

Mvg
Teus



hallo teus,

 ik denk niet dat je hier veel antwoorden op zult krijgen: dit is een 
engelstalige lijst. probeer het nog een keer in het engels dus.


met vr. groet,

steef

translated:

hi teus,

don't think you will see many answers. [..} try it again in english.

kind regards,

steef


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Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

[shawn wilson]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:55 PM, shawn wilson  wrote:

>
>
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 5:16 PM, giovanni_re  wrote:
>
>> Let's start the "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones".
>>
>> What are the first steps we can easily take, to get started on this?
>>
>> 1) Talk about how to do it on this email list.
>> 2) Put something on www.debian.org web page about beginning to work on
>> this project.
>> 3) Create a mailing list for "Debian for Android Hw".
>> 4) Send some thoughts in reply to this email, & to the new mailing list.
>> 5) Make a wiki page for "Debian distro for Android capable hardware
>> phones".
>>- http://wiki.debian.org/DebianOnHandhelds
>>
>>
>> first, nice research. i'd like a hardware linux kernel on a phone because
> i don't like java and i'd love to get these devices to do cool things (these
> are great, cheap little computers that i can almost afford to throw around).
>
> so, here's where i'd go:
> boot loader - someone put android on an iphone a while ago. you should go
> look at that code and figure out how it should be modified. android based
> hardware should be more open (just because of the type of community).
> however, it might be possible to bypass this step and use the android boot
> loader or something someone else has programmed to load roms - donno.
> kernel - you're going to need to figure out the differences between kernel
> options between the upstream linux and android. then figure what you need
> for your linux and what you just can't have because of the hardware.
> drivers - you'll probably want to start out with just the wifi driver. that
> way you could get in with ssh and see what you have. after this, a video
> driver would be very useful. then you might want a bluetooth network and
> stack along with a keyboard driver. etc
> applications - if you want to use this for more than a tethered box (this
> is beyond my use case) you'll need some apps. i don't know how far gtk or qt
> (or tk) have gotten with touch screen pointers and gesture. however,
> assuming they have, you'll need an on screen keyboard (shouldn't be too
> hard). then you'll need to customize your apps - you're not going to want
> your web browser to pop up with an inch worth of toolbar crap for instance.
>
> oh yeah, forgot to mention that you'll probably have to recompile
libraries.

however, you probably just want to start with a popular processor and go
from there. i couldn't find much about putting linux on devices with the
snapdragon processor (which sucks because i want this on older phones i can
get for <$100), but. nvidia does have this:
http://developer.nvidia.com/tegra/news/linux-tegra-released
(and this is why i love nvidia stuff)

... this is why you're not going to get an 'android debian' - you're going
to get a 'nvidia tegra debian', a 'qualcomm snapdragon debian', an 'apple a4
debian', etc. your boot loader is likely to be different based on
architecture, library binaries will have to be recompiled, and you'll need
different drivers based on hardware (most of which will probably require
some pretty complex reverse engineering as i don't think these people are
that open about their hardware).

so, my suggestion: read through that nvidia stuff or do more research on
boot loaders for mobile devices. find some smart people over at xda and the
iphone dev team (the processes for doing this are likely to be quite
similar). also, start looking for old android phones on craigslist or in
your newspaper. you're going to need them. you'll probably brick a few in
this process (you might figure out how to recover them, but...). oh and, i'd
strongly recommend against just trying to throw things at your primary
phone. you're probably going to end up dropping at least a grand on this
project (but you'll end up with a bunch of old - and possibly bricked -
phones :) ).

and, let us (me) know what you find. this might be an interesting thing to
do, but i'd want to know what's involved in order to get linux booting
first. ie, this might be above my head and i'd like to know a bit more
before i spend time and money (i'm not doing this to my evo) on this
process.

ps - i could be wrong with the boot loader, it might be as simple as
compiling a kernel, boot strapping the libraries, and shoving it into a
squashfs rom image. in which case, you should only need one spare device
until you start programming drivers and write a register that you shouldn't
have (hehe, fun).

Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?

[Wolodja Wentland]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 07:28 -0500, Charles Blair wrote:
>I decided I wanted to remove the package cwebx, which is a
> system for documenting C programs.  When I put a minus sign
> next to that package, I was told that aptitude wanted to then
> remove a whole bunch of other stuff, including gcc.  I definitely
> did NOT want that to happen and exited from aptitude immediately.

It has already been pointed out that you want to mark gcc as automatically
installed. Just wanted to note that you should consider installing the
"build-essential" package which depends on a couple of packages you might also
want to keep.

$ apt-cache depends build-essential

build-essential
 |Depends: libc6-dev
  Depends: 
libc6-dev
  Depends: gcc
  Depends: g++
  Depends: make
  Depends: dpkg-dev
> 
>How do I get aptitude to cancel that request from future
> sessions?

That would be "aptitude keep-all", see the description in the manpage:

 Cancels all scheduled actions on all packages; any packages whose sticky
 state indicates an installation, removal, or upgrade will have this
 sticky state cleared.

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Re: version of Debian

[Steven Sciame]

IMHO  for a server you probably want to go with Stable:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1/i386/iso-cd/debian-6.0.1a-i386-netinst.iso

It should be a pretty straight forward install once you burn the iso to disk, 
but just in case:

http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/

I am not sure about the ispconfig

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From: teus.malestein 
Subject: version of Debian
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
Date: Tuesday, March 22, 2011, 8:31 AM

Hello,
Is there anyone who can advise me what version of Debian server, together with 
ispconfig 2, is best suitable for my i386
Thank you in advance.
Teus


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Re: Ecryptfs vs encfs

[Dan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 10:22 AM, Jon Dowland  wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 08:51:27PM -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
>
> With ecryptfs,  I can have a file-level backup solution work on the backing
> files, not require an active login or mounted FS, and do replication to other
> nodes/sites without privacy concerns.
>

Yes, ecryptfs approach seems to be easier to manage.

Do you have any special reason to have chosen ecryptfs over encfs?

Daniel


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Re: libxaw7-dev busted, not sure why

[briand]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 20:27:40 +1300
Chris Bannister  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 09:27:12PM -0700, bri...@aracnet.com wrote:
> > oooh.  success.  just used the =version format to downgrade.
> > 
> > only had to beat up on three packages to make it work.
> > 
> > fixed that security thing too :-)
> 
> Excellent! Do you remember the command?
> 

To fix not getting security updates ? I just uncommented the source line
and did apt-get dist-upgrade ?

or do you mean downgrading ? as in

  apt-get install libxaw7=2:1.0.7-1


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Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

[David Sastre]

2011/3/22, Jon Dowland :
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 03:08:48PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote:
>> "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones"

What about Maemo and MeeGo?
Those projects more than probably have done most of the work you'd
need to run Debian in a smartphone.


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version of Debian

[teus.malestein]

Hello,
Is there anyone who can advise me what version of Debian server, 
together with ispconfig 2, is best suitable for my i386

Thank you in advance.
Teus


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Re: Android Debian - Lets start Debian for Android hw phones

[Jon Dowland]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 03:08:48PM -0700, giovanni_re wrote:
> "Debian distro for Android capable hardware phones"
> 
> 
> DfAHP - I kinda like that. Has a nice ring to it.
> 
> DDfAHP?
> DfACHP?
> DDfACHP?

Just "Debian": It's the universal OS.  It doesn't need a different name for
every architecture :-)


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Re: Ecryptfs vs encfs

[Jon Dowland]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 08:51:27PM -0700, Todd A. Jacobs wrote:
> Generally, my advice is to use dm-crypt for block devices (like
> encrypting an entire /home partition that root plans to mount at
> bootup), and encfs for encrypting individual directories other than
> $HOME. YMMV.

I've been using the dm-crypt approach for a while, but the limitations of it
have encouraged me to plan a migration to ecryptfs.

 * If you mount via root/boot time, you must supply the passphrase at boot,
   which stops unattended/automated restarts or boot-ups.
 * as a user, you must supply at least two passphrases (dm-crypt, and login).

You can solve the latter by moving to login-time mounting via libpam-mount.
This generally works very well, but

 * fsck is totally invisible if you log in via an X display manager, so the
   occasional login will take 5-10 minutes longer than expected for a large
   filesystem
 * mounting is done serially, so if you have more than one encrypted
   filesystem (I have nearly a dozen, which is a mistake) login takes a long
   time very time

With ecryptfs,  I can have a file-level backup solution work on the backing
files, not require an active login or mounted FS, and do replication to other
nodes/sites without privacy concerns.


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Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?

[Jon Dowland]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 12:56:58PM +, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> Just tell aptitude you explicitly /want/ gcc and you should be good to
> remove cwebx. I'd be interested to see if "aptitude install gcc  ;
> aptitude remove cwebx" achieves this directly - do let the list know

In aptitude's graphical mode, navigate to the package in question (e.g., gcc:
/^gcc$). Note the 'A' indicating that the package was automatically
installed. Remove the 'A' (mark as manually installed) via keypress 'm'.
Restore it via 'M'. (or vice versa)


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Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?

[Thierry Chatelet]

On Tuesday 22 March 2011 13:28:49 Charles Blair wrote:
>I decided I wanted to remove the package cwebx, which is a
> system for documenting C programs.  When I put a minus sign
> next to that package, I was told that aptitude wanted to then
> remove a whole bunch of other stuff, including gcc.  I definitely
> did NOT want that to happen and exited from aptitude immediately.
> 
>How do I get aptitude to cancel that request from future
> sessions?

See man aptitude to mark gcc as manually installed.

Thierry


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ispconfig

[teus.malestein]

Goedemiddag,

welke versie van Debian (i386) past goed bij ispconfig 2 ?
waar is de install man te vinden ?

Mvg
Teus


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Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 22/03/11 23:56, Jonathan Matthews wrote:
> On 22 March 2011 12:28, Charles Blair  wrote:
>>   I decided I wanted to remove the package cwebx, which is a
>> system for documenting C programs.  When I put a minus sign
>> next to that package, I was told that aptitude wanted to then
>> remove a whole bunch of other stuff, including gcc.  I definitely
>> did NOT want that to happen and exited from aptitude immediately.
>>
>>   How do I get aptitude to cancel that request from future
>> sessions?
> 
> It looks to me (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cwebx) that perhaps
> the only reason gcc is /on/ your machine is due to aptitude pulling it
> down when you installed cwebx. Hence it knows that, as it satisfied
> the dependency (well, recommendation) initially, it should be fine to
> remove it now.
> 
> Just tell aptitude you explicitly /want/ gcc and you should be good to
> remove cwebx. I'd be interested to see if "aptitude install gcc  ;
> aptitude remove cwebx" achieves this directly - do let the list know
> ...
> 
> Jonathan


You can try using -R (ignore recommended)


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Re: sources.list

[Chris Brennan]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 3:53 AM, Alan Hutchinson
 wrote:

Hi there I was wondering you could enlighten me regarding the
> "APT/SOURCES.LIST", I inadvertently messed them up, and when I go to do an
> upgrade I get about 400 packages or so, it all started ,when I was tinkering
> with my apt sources.list,and had not a clue what I was doing, I added a new
> line for squeeze packages update ,which line should I comment out ,of my apt
> sources.list ?
> #
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.7 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1
> 20101127-16:55]/ lenny main
>
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.7 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1
> 20101127-16:55]/ lenny main
>
> deb http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ lenny main
> deb-src http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ lenny main
>
> deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
>
> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
> deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
>

It's assumed then that you are still using Debian Lenny?


> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
>

This is your problem right here. Your pulling all of Squeezes packages in,
on top of your oldstable (Lenny) install, remove these lines unless you
intend on actually upgrading your system and moving from oldstable (Lenny)
to currentstable (Squeeze).



> "sources.list.save" 22L, 828C


Your using VIM. Try adding this to your .vimrc

syntax on " this directive gets no set, add it asis.
set backup " make backup files
set backupdir=~/.vim/backup " where to put backup files
set directory=~/.vim/tmp " directory to place swap files in

I'm the OP for this thread, I took what I learned from this thread
and successfully moved my VM from Squeeze to Wheezy (Testing) without issue.
I used https://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/ as my reference
point and carefully added the extra repo's I wanted, but it gave me enough
of a clue on what to change to move from Squeeze to Wheezy.

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Re: Debian 6.0.1 ia64 DVD release looks strange

[Andrew McGlashan]

Hi Steve,

Steve McIntyre wrote:

Apologies, you've just found a bug in the CD/DVD creation run from
last weekend. I'm working on it now, expect a new release (6.0.1a)
shortly.


How about an announcement for this when it is fixed and also one for the 
"small CDs" that were effected by an [same|different?] issue.


Anybody whom downloaded 6.0.1 netinst and business card versions 
(perhaps others), need to download 6.0.1a as per this page:


http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1/

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Re: aptitude over-zealous on removals?

[Jonathan Matthews]

On 22 March 2011 12:28, Charles Blair  wrote:
>   I decided I wanted to remove the package cwebx, which is a
> system for documenting C programs.  When I put a minus sign
> next to that package, I was told that aptitude wanted to then
> remove a whole bunch of other stuff, including gcc.  I definitely
> did NOT want that to happen and exited from aptitude immediately.
>
>   How do I get aptitude to cancel that request from future
> sessions?

It looks to me (http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cwebx) that perhaps
the only reason gcc is /on/ your machine is due to aptitude pulling it
down when you installed cwebx. Hence it knows that, as it satisfied
the dependency (well, recommendation) initially, it should be fine to
remove it now.

Just tell aptitude you explicitly /want/ gcc and you should be good to
remove cwebx. I'd be interested to see if "aptitude install gcc  ;
aptitude remove cwebx" achieves this directly - do let the list know
...

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aptitude over-zealous on removals?

[Charles Blair]

   I decided I wanted to remove the package cwebx, which is a
system for documenting C programs.  When I put a minus sign
next to that package, I was told that aptitude wanted to then
remove a whole bunch of other stuff, including gcc.  I definitely
did NOT want that to happen and exited from aptitude immediately.

   How do I get aptitude to cancel that request from future
sessions?


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Re: Ecryptfs vs encfs

[Dan]

On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 11:51 PM, Todd A. Jacobs
 wrote:
> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 8:09 PM, Dan  wrote:
>> I would like to encrypt some folders in the home directory of the
>> users in a server. I have seen that there are 2 choices ecryptfs and
>> encfs. They seem to be very similar. Which one do you think that it is
>> better?
>
> One isn't better than the other; they serve different use cases.
> Ecryptfs is a stacked filesystem that runs in the kernel, while encfs
> is a FUSE-based filesystem that runs in userspace.
>
> IMHO encfs is a better solution for individual users; it's less
> complex to implement and doesn't have stack issues (see
> http://ecryptfs.sourceforge.net/ecryptfs-faq.html#stack). On the other
> hand, ecryptfs is the default for encrypted home directories in Ubuntu
> and probably works faster due to running in kernel space.
>
> Generally, my advice is to use dm-crypt for block devices (like
> encrypting an entire /home partition that root plans to mount at
> bootup), and encfs for encrypting individual directories other than
> $HOME. YMMV.

Why do you say that ecrypt is less complex. From a user "point of
view" ecryptfs seems to be easy to implement in a multiuser server.

The issues of being a stack filesystem only affect the XFS file
system, not the ext3 or ext4. Right?

It seems that ecryptfs is more popular than encfs. Is there any reason for that?

Dan


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Re: Debian 6.0.1 ia64 DVD release looks strange

[Steve McIntyre]

Konstantin Vlasov wrote:
>
>Good day, everybody.
>
>In the 6.0.1 release directories there is something strange for the DVD 
>version of the ia64
>architecture: 45 iso files each of ~700 Mb size does not look like DVD release 
>at all despite of
>names debian-6.0.1-ia64-DVD-{1..45}.iso. :-)
>Is there somewhere an alternative location with more "real-life" DVD version?

Apologies, you've just found a bug in the CD/DVD creation run from
last weekend. I'm working on it now, expect a new release (6.0.1a)
shortly.

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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Estelmann, Christian]

Yes, I think that is exactly the problem I have. Thanks. And sorry, but 
I didn't found that bugreport...



Am 22.03.2011 12:51, schrieb Wolodja Wentland:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619019

Looks as if downgrading the kernel (as you did) is a workaround for the time
being. You do have an intel card, don't you?
   



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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Wolodja Wentland]

On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 09:44 +0100, Estelmann, Christian wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> After installing all updates on the weekend the mouse pointer
> disappeared. It was like the size of the pointer were set to 0px.
> Klicking and moving was possible - but without seeing the pointer,
> it was quite hard do know where you are.
> 
> I downgraded package for package. Now I can say, that when doing this step:
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-base 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> after a reboot the mouse pointer is not showed. After installing the
> packages in version 2.6.32-30 it is back again.
> 
> I am using kde and kdm. But I for testing I have installed gdm and
> xfce - the mouse was not visible there, too.
> While starting a program, the "jumping" icon is showed and can be
> moved - like nothing is wrong.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right list, but I thought I will try.
> If you need more information just ask about it.

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=619019

Looks as if downgrading the kernel (as you did) is a workaround for the time
being. You do have an intel card, don't you?
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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Estelmann, Christian]

I have done some more tests. When upgrading linux-base the pointer is 
still visible.


It doesn't matter using the touchpad or a mouse connected by USB. The 
point is, that the pointer is not visible. But by moving the mouse you 
can trigger the mouse over events of buttons, when klicking with the 
right button the context menu is opened and so on.


I only have a integrated gfx-chip from Intel in my subnotebook.
00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82852/855GM Integrated 
Graphics Device (rev 02)


At the moment I have installed xserver-xorg-video-all.
A cut of Xorg.0.log:
(II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/intel_drv.so
(II) Module intel: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
compiled for 1.7.7, module version = 2.13.0
Module class: X.Org Video Driver
ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 6.0
[...]
(II) intel: Driver for Intel Integrated Graphics Chipsets: i810,
i810-dc100, i810e, i815, i830M, 845G, 854, 852GM/855GM, 865G, 915G,
E7221 (i915), 915GM, 945G, 945GM, 945GME, Pineview GM, Pineview G,
965G, G35, 965Q, 946GZ, 965GM, 965GME/GLE, G33, Q35, Q33, GM45,
4 Series, G45/G43, Q45/Q43, G41, B43, B43, Clarkdale, Arrandale,
Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge, Sandybridge,
Sandybridge, Sandybridge
[...]
(II) intel(0): Creating default Display subsection in Screen section
"Default Screen Section" for depth/fbbpp 24/32
(==) intel(0): Depth 24, (--) framebuffer bpp 32
(==) intel(0): RGB weight 888
(==) intel(0): Default visual is TrueColor
(II) intel(0): Integrated Graphics Chipset: Intel(R) 855GME
(--) intel(0): Chipset: "852GM/855GM"
(==) intel(0): Shadow buffer enabled, GPU acceleration disabled.
(**) intel(0): Tiling enabled
(**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled
(==) intel(0): video overlay key set to 0x101fe
(II) intel(0): Output VGA1 has no monitor section
(II) intel(0): Output LVDS1 has no monitor section
(II) intel(0): found backlight control interface 
/sys/class/backlight/fujitsu-laptop

(II) intel(0): Output DVI1 has no monitor section
(II) intel(0): EDID for output VGA1
(II) intel(0): EDID for output LVDS1



Am 22.03.2011 12:25, schrieb Stephen Powell:

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:44:58 -0400 (EDT), Christian Estelmann wrote:
   

After installing all updates on the weekend the mouse pointer
disappeared. It was like the size of the pointer were set to 0px.
Klicking and moving was possible - but without seeing the pointer, it
was quite hard do know where you are.

I downgraded package for package. Now I can say, that when doing this step:
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-base 2.6.32-30 ->  2.6.32-31
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 ->  2.6.32-31
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common 2.6.32-30 ->  2.6.32-31
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 ->  2.6.32-31
after a reboot the mouse pointer is not showed. After installing the
packages in version 2.6.32-30 it is back again.

I am using kde and kdm. But I for testing I have installed gdm and xfce
- the mouse was not visible there, too.
While starting a program, the "jumping" icon is showed and can be moved
- like nothing is wrong.

I'm not sure if this is the right list, but I thought I will try.
If you need more information just ask about it.
 

I cannot reproduce your problem.  I am running Wheezy with the exact same
stock Debian kernel image: linux-image-2.6.32-5-686, version 2.6.32-31,
and my mouse pointer works fine.  I am using GNOME and the nv driver.
I also have gpm installed for using the mouse in a text console.  My mouse
is a standard 2-button PS/2 mouse connected to a standard PS/2 mouse port
on the back of the machine (Intel 8042 keyboard/mouse controller chip).
What kind of mouse are you using?

   



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Re: Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Stephen Powell]

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011 04:44:58 -0400 (EDT), Christian Estelmann wrote:
> 
> After installing all updates on the weekend the mouse pointer 
> disappeared. It was like the size of the pointer were set to 0px. 
> Klicking and moving was possible - but without seeing the pointer, it 
> was quite hard do know where you are.
> 
> I downgraded package for package. Now I can say, that when doing this step:
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-base 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> [AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
> after a reboot the mouse pointer is not showed. After installing the 
> packages in version 2.6.32-30 it is back again.
> 
> I am using kde and kdm. But I for testing I have installed gdm and xfce 
> - the mouse was not visible there, too.
> While starting a program, the "jumping" icon is showed and can be moved 
> - like nothing is wrong.
> 
> I'm not sure if this is the right list, but I thought I will try.
> If you need more information just ask about it.

I cannot reproduce your problem.  I am running Wheezy with the exact same
stock Debian kernel image: linux-image-2.6.32-5-686, version 2.6.32-31,
and my mouse pointer works fine.  I am using GNOME and the nv driver.
I also have gpm installed for using the mouse in a text console.  My mouse
is a standard 2-button PS/2 mouse connected to a standard PS/2 mouse port
on the back of the machine (Intel 8042 keyboard/mouse controller chip).
What kind of mouse are you using?

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Re: Cups printing missing color profile [SOLVED]

[Alan Chandler]

On 22/03/11 10:33, Alan Chandler wrote:

On 22/03/11 10:24, Alan Chandler wrote:

I have just re-installed my system (Debian Unstable) from scratch, and I
can't get printing to work.

I find the following error message against each print job.

"File '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc' not found"


This looks very MAC OSX like - is there something misconfigured here?


I found some .icc files in /usr/share/ghostscript/9.0/iccprofiles

Although the names are slightly different.

I found the reference to '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB
Profile.icc' in my .ppd file (just obtained from Debian - I haven't
changed anything).

Am I missing some conversion?



I am not sure which package I got these .ppd files, I just did a "find" 
of all .ppd files installed on my system and I couldn't find any. It 
must have been downloaded on the fly when I specified the printer.


 The cups screen showed a how list of gutenprint printers when I first 
did this, but since installing the foomatic packages, this list is now 
limited to foomatic drives.


Since I added the foomatic drivers and used them it all works.

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Re: Cups printing missing color profile

[Alan Chandler]

On 22/03/11 10:24, Alan Chandler wrote:

I have just re-installed my system (Debian Unstable) from scratch, and I
can't get printing to work.

I find the following error message against each print job.

"File '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc' not found"


This looks very MAC OSX like - is there something misconfigured here?


I found some .icc files in /usr/share/ghostscript/9.0/iccprofiles

Although the names are slightly different.

I found the reference to '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB 
Profile.icc' in my .ppd file (just obtained from Debian - I haven't 
changed anything).


Am I missing some conversion?

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Cups printing missing color profile

[Alan Chandler]

I have just re-installed my system (Debian Unstable) from scratch, and I 
can't get printing to work.


I find the following error message against each print job.

"File '/System/Library/ColorSync/Profiles/sRGB Profile.icc' not found"


This looks very MAC OSX like - is there something misconfigured here?
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Re: Wireless............

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Op 22-03-11 09:12, Charlie schreef:
> On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:49:42 -0400
> Wayne Topa  wrote:
> 
>>> The wireless connection obviously works, or otherwise i could not
>>> have installed the system, and it works on the windows system I had
>>> to install to send this email.
>>>  
>> Charlie
>>
>>Check /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debain.gz.  Many
>> examples to get you going.
>>
>> HTH  Wayne
> 
> Thanks Wayne,
> 
> Read that and tried many various ways, but it beats me. There are more
> to try and will do that. Lucky I have winxp on the dual boot.
Try wicd, it is a great gui-tool to easily connect to wireless networks.

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Re: unmount on shutdown

[Sjoerd Hardeman]

Op 21-03-11 01:09, Joel Rees schreef:
> On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Geoffrey Smith  wrote:
>> Hello, I am using Debian 6.0 Squeeze and the Gnome desktop on a typical
>> desktop computer.  Suppose I have a USB drive mounted on /media/ and I do a
>> normal shutdown via Gnome.  Is the USB drive automatically unmounted as part
>> of the normal shutdown process?  The reason I ask is because I forgot to run
>> umount before shutting down.  Thank you.  Geoff
> 
> For a little more explanation, if you shut down some
> awkward/unexpected/exceptional way, such as a power blackout or a
> cleaning staff mis-operation of the power outlets (well known
> example!) or (ahem) when your 6-year-old son figures out that the
> power switch on the back does something, there is a possibility that
> dirty caches may not have been written to the disks before the DC
> power from the PS module drops.
> 
Also something to keep in mind: if you only READ from a drive, there's
no need to unmount before unplugging. However, to only read you must
have mounted the filesystem with an option like noatime (or mount a fat
filesystem, that doesn't support access times), else stuff will be written.

Sjoerd



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Re: mouse pointer disappeared after upgrading to 6.0.1 in GNOME

[Chen Wei]

Steven's source.list is okay, he is not the VirtualBox user, I am. LOL:

VirtualBox does remind me to upgrade to 4.x series every time it starts,
but 3.2 works fine so far. And 4.x package appears about 10M larger,
thus I am stick with 3.2.

IMHO, use a self build kernel is fine, the rest of Debian is still from
stable branch, besides, we can switch back to Debian official kernel any
time. The Debian kernel building routing is very smart, it build several
.deb package which can be installed via dpkg -i *.deb. It even change
the boot menu automatically, for example, there are both 2.6.34.7 and
2.6.32-5 on my boot menu now, so if I want go back to pure Debian 6.01,
just select 2.6.32-5, however, I then must try guess the mouse pointer
location.

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On 03/22/2011 12:25 PM, Steven Sciame wrote:
> That is possible.  I just assumed that my sources.list was correct. 
> Does this look right?
> 
> 
> steven@debtop:~$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list
> deb http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ squeeze main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/ squeeze main
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main
> 
> #Multimedia
> deb http://debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze main non-free
> 
> I am not crazy about the non-free, but I needed it for the b43 driver. 
> Broadcomm joined the Linux Foundation and opened up a lot of their newer
> drivers, but somehow the old ones are still non-free as far as I
> know(this is an old laptop)
> 
> and the non-free from multimedia:  I need adobe flash for work, because
> gNash doesn't quite get it done. and w32codecs comes in handy too.
> 
> 
> --- On *Mon, 3/21/11, Scott Ferguson
> //* wrote:
> 
> 
> From: Scott Ferguson 
> Subject: Re: mouse pointer disappeared after upgrading to 6.0.1 in GNOME
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 10:58 PM
> 
> On 22/03/11 14:12, Steven Sciame wrote:
> >
> >
> > I could try that, but I am a little nervous wandering away from a
> > "stable" system.  Would I have to wait for the next point release for
> > this to get fixed and how would I maximize my chances of this being
> > fixed in 6.0.2? or sooner maybe?
> 
> 
> You are several upgrades behind the current, stable virtualbox.
> Possibly you didn't change your sources.list entry back in November -
> else you would be running 4.x vb.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > --- On *Mon, 3/21/11, Scott Ferguson
> > / >/* wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Scott Ferguson  >
> > Subject: Re: mouse pointer disappeared after upgrading to
> 6.0.1 in GNOME
> > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> 
> > Date: Monday, March 21, 2011, 8:41 PM
> >
> > On 22/03/11 12:30, Chen Wei wrote:
> > > hi Steven, since the VirtualBox 3.2 cannot built its module
> on 2.6.38
> > > source, follow the instruction in "Debian Linux Kernel
> Handbook", I
> > > rebuild the 2.6.34.7 kernel. It is quite strait forward and
> works, the
> > > result kernel is also smaller than default kernel. maybe u
> can try it
> > > before Debian issue another upgrade.
> > >
> > >
> > 
> >
> > Suggest you use VirtualBox 4.0.4 (released 2011-02-17)
> >
> > #apt-get remove virtualbox3.2
> > wget -t 0
> > 
>
> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.4/virtualbox-4.0_4.0.4-70112~Debian~squeeze_i386.deb
> 
> 
> > 
>
> 
> > (there's an AMD64 variant)
> > #dpkg -i virtualbox-4.0_4.0.4-70112~Debian~squeeze*.deb
> >
> > wget -t 0
> > 
>
> http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/4.0.4/Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.0.4-70112.vbox-extpack
> > #VBoxManage extpack install
> > Oracle_VM_VirtualBox_Extension_Pack-4.0.4-70112.vbox-extpack
> >
> 
> 
> fww I have had no issues, with vb in Lenny or Squeeze.
> 
> The release notes are on virtualbox.org
> 
> Cheers
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Re: Wireless............

[Jörg-Volker Peetz]

The file /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz cited already by Wayne
explains also the meaning of common wpa options. In a certain environment this
configuration worked for wpa encryption:

iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wpa-ssid dlink
wpa-psk plaintexpassword
wpa-key-mgmt WPA-PSK
wpa-proto WPA WPA2
wpa-pairwise TKIP CCMP
wpa-group TKIP CCMP

Otherwise with the not recommended, insecure wep encryption:

iface wlan0 inet dhcp
wireless-essiddlink
wireless-key  thekey
wireless-keymode  open

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Mouse disappeared after update to squeeze 6.0.1

[Estelmann, Christian]

Hi,

After installing all updates on the weekend the mouse pointer 
disappeared. It was like the size of the pointer were set to 0px. 
Klicking and moving was possible - but without seeing the pointer, it 
was quite hard do know where you are.


I downgraded package for package. Now I can say, that when doing this step:
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-base 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
[AKTUALISIERUNG] linux-image-2.6.32-5-686 2.6.32-30 -> 2.6.32-31
after a reboot the mouse pointer is not showed. After installing the 
packages in version 2.6.32-30 it is back again.


I am using kde and kdm. But I for testing I have installed gdm and xfce 
- the mouse was not visible there, too.
While starting a program, the "jumping" icon is showed and can be moved 
- like nothing is wrong.


I'm not sure if this is the right list, but I thought I will try.
If you need more information just ask about it.

Greetings,

Christian Estelmann


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Re: squeeze on asus 1001px

[Frank]

Hello,

Please disregard my last message.

Thanks

2011/3/21 Frank 

> Hello,
>
> I try to install squeeze on my little eeepc. I tried the mini.iso net-boot
> on a usb Key but the installation failed with the installation of the Grub.
> Do you have any information about it ?
>
> I tried to boot and install it manually but no /target file, no fdisk, no
> apt-get, and no grub-install.
>
> How can i do ?
>
> Help I depress
>
> Thanks you a lot for you great job for Debian and thanks you for your help.
>
> Frank
>

Re: sources.list

[Jude DaShiell]

Do you have a file called sources.list~ in /etc/apt?  If so, that's a 
backup your editor made for you before you broke sources.list.  In that 
case, you could cp sources.list~ sources.list  and wipe out your 
mistake.  If not, you're using the wrong editor.  I recommend emacs or 
xemacs for future use if you used the wrong editor if for no other 
reason than insurance.

On Tue, 22 Mar 2011, Alan Hutchinson wrote:

> Hi there I was wondering you could enlighten me regarding the
> "APT/SOURCES.LIST", I inadvertently messed them up, and when I go to do an
> upgrade I get about 400 packages or so, it all started ,when I was tinkering
> with my apt sources.list,and had not a clue what I was doing, I added a new
> line for squeeze packages update ,which line should I comment out ,of my apt
> sources.list ?
>   #
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.7 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1
> 20101127-16:55]/ lenny main
> 
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.7 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1
> 20101127-16:55]/ lenny main
> 
> deb http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ lenny main
> deb-src http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ lenny main
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
> 
> deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
> deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
> deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
> "sources.list.save" 22L, 828C
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Freeman  wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 04:59:11PM -0700, evenso wrote:
> > > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 07:25:43PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > > > While I am not new to Linux/*BSD, I am new to the Debian way of things.
> > What
> > > > is the proper way of modifying /etc/apt/sources.list. As it stands, I
> > am
> > > > running with the basic sources.list and am curious as to what gets
> > added
> > > > where to sources.list?
> > > >
> > >
> >
> > P.S. If you're looking for fun and danger with your sources.list:
> >
> > https://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/
> >
> > --
> > Regards,
> > Freeman
> >
> > "Microsoft is not the answer. Microsoft is the question. NO (or Linux) is
> > the
> > answer." --Somebody
> >
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Re: Wireless............

[Charlie]

On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 21:49:42 -0400
Wayne Topa  wrote:

> > The wireless connection obviously works, or otherwise i could not
> > have installed the system, and it works on the windows system I had
> > to install to send this email.
> >  
> Charlie
> 
>Check /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debain.gz.  Many
> examples to get you going.
> 
> HTH  Wayne

Thanks Wayne,

Read that and tried many various ways, but it beats me. There are more
to try and will do that. Lucky I have winxp on the dual boot.

Charlie
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Re: sources.list

[Alan Hutchinson]

Hi there I was wondering you could enlighten me regarding the
"APT/SOURCES.LIST", I inadvertently messed them up, and when I go to do an
upgrade I get about 400 packages or so, it all started ,when I was tinkering
with my apt sources.list,and had not a clue what I was doing, I added a new
line for squeeze packages update ,which line should I comment out ,of my apt
sources.list ?
  #
# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.7 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1
20101127-16:55]/ lenny main

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 5.0.7 _Lenny_ - Official i386 CD Binary-1
20101127-16:55]/ lenny main

deb http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ lenny main
deb-src http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/ lenny main

deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates main

deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main
deb-src http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile main





deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb-src http://http.us.debian.org/debian stable main contrib non-free
deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main contrib non-free
"sources.list.save" 22L, 828C



On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 5:12 PM, Freeman  wrote:

> On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 04:59:11PM -0700, evenso wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 07:25:43PM -0400, Chris Brennan wrote:
> > > While I am not new to Linux/*BSD, I am new to the Debian way of things.
> What
> > > is the proper way of modifying /etc/apt/sources.list. As it stands, I
> am
> > > running with the basic sources.list and am curious as to what gets
> added
> > > where to sources.list?
> > >
> >
>
> P.S. If you're looking for fun and danger with your sources.list:
>
> https://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/
>
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> Freeman
>
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> the
> answer." --Somebody
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Re: Apt-get, Exclude

[Andrei Popescu]

On Lu, 21 mar 11, 18:19:07, Matt wrote:
> Have worked mostly with CentOS.  In CentOS we frequently use 'yum
> update' to keep the server up to date.  For packages that we do not
> want updated we add them to exclude in yum.conf.  Is there anything
> like exclude for apt-get in Debian?

Besides the methods in the other posts there is also 
/etc/apt/preferences (or /etc/apt/preferences.d/ if you like the 
multiple file approach). See 'man apt_preferences' for details.

But, are you aware that upgrades in a stable Debian system are only for 
security or serious bugs?

Regards,
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