Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:13 +0100, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : ’soir, Le samedi 26 mars 2011 à 01:53:42, Thibault Dupuis a écrit : Le 25 mars 2011 à 23:59, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Bonsoir, j'utilise Digikam au quotidien et je confirme qu'il s'agit d'un logiciel parfaitement adapté à la gestion de larges photothèques […] Je suis d'accord avec ce qui a été dit. J'ai utilisé pendant pas mal de temps DigiKam avec une grosse base de données de photos et je n'ai jamais eu de soucis avec. […] Mais arrêtez, puisque Bernard vous dit qu’il a raison, enfin ! Quand verrez-vous la lumière ? Bonjour, J'ai envie de reprendre une citation inspirée d'Albert Einstein : Lorsque le raisonnement conduit à un problème, le même raisonnement n'arrivera point à le résoudre ... Je craque autant que toi du fait que les personnes ne lisent pas le fond mais survolent juste ce qui les conforte dans leurs idées ... Autrement, j'ai l'impression qu'il veulent transformer debian en machine à écrire pour dire qu'ils sont les rois de l'informatique alors qu'il n'ont pas encore 10 000 heures de vol au minimum Mais, à force de faire ce genre de bévues, ils se planterons tout seul et lorsque le problème sérieux viendra, ils n'obtiendrons aucune réponse valide ... merci de ien vouloir indiquer un lien pour les listes de bac à sable locales : GUL || LUG liens : http://aful.org/gul http://www.lea-linux.org/documentations/index.php/Annuaire:LUG_France j'ai bien l'impression que les novices veulent rouler en F1 avant de savoir pédaler à bicyclette ... Il faut quand même : 2' 30 + 9 mois + 20 ans pour faire un être humain adulte censé ? et les autres veulent juste avoir 2' 30 pour arriver au stade final ... la nature est ainsi faite qu'il faille consacrer du temps pour progresser ... slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327084658.4ba4add8.bernard.schoenacker_free.fr@hamtaro
Re: [HS] Bad news
Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 22:25:42 +0100, Jean-Yves F. Barbier 12u...@gmail.com a écrit : On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:13:07 +0100 romain boucq rbo...@alter-via.fr wrote: ... Concernant Twitter : la question est plus délicate, néanmoins dans la mesure où l'on peut choisr des tweets privés réservés aux seuls membres choisis, il me semble que la question reste délicate. De même pour Facebook dans la mesure où l'utilisateur peut restreindre les accès à ses seuls amis. Même si cela concerne les seuls choix d'un utilisateur , la loi ne pourrait pas s'appliquer de manière aussi générale. Evidemment, l'actualité fait pencher pour une interprétation large : http://www.lemonde.fr/tiny/1498945/#xtor=AL-32280258 mais je ne suis pas aussi convaincu. Faux, puisque le législateur débile (pléonasme typiquement de ce pays) a considéré que l'e-mail n'était pas privé; d'où point de départ initial ET biaisé. L'objectif de ce décret me semble plus destiné à éviter l'usurpation d'identité sur internet, dans la mesure où une personne qui mettrait à disposition des logiciels contrefaits, pourrait ouvrir un compte sous une fausse identité que destiné à trouver des activistes quelconques ou pour traquer la liberté d'expression... Faux, l'optique de ce décret est de fliquer tous les intervenants en les dissuadants par là-même d'intervenir et de contredire le pouvoir en place; heureusement certains des blogs dissidents ne sont pas hébergés dans le pays qui a inventé les droits de l'homme et les violent allègrement... De même que la li dans l'économie numérique a évité que les prestataires de services en ligne puissent modifier unilatéralement leur conditions générales de vente sans prévenir leur usager en imposant l'obligation de conserver de manière sécurisée les contrats conclus en ligne. Voici une première lecture / analyse. À minima; les ennemis de la liberté d'expression ont TOUJOURS une première lecture à minima. Bon week end Pas vraiment. Romain Rom'2 Bonjour, J'ai bien l'impression qu'il manque une case en france : Datenschutzrecht http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenschutzrecht et à propos du courriel, puisque le barbier pointe le doigt dessus qu'en est il avec ce qui est discuté et le code des postes sur la correspondance ? slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327085102.6659629f.bernard.schoenacker_free.fr@hamtaro
Fw: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
- Message Transféré - Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:21:29 +0200 De: tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com À: bernard.schoenac...@free.fr Sujet: Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian Le 27/03/2011 08:46, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:13 +0100, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : ’soir, Le samedi 26 mars 2011 à 01:53:42, Thibault Dupuis a écrit : Le 25 mars 2011 à 23:59, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Bonsoir, j'utilise Digikam au quotidien et je confirme qu'il s'agit d'un logiciel parfaitement adapté à la gestion de larges photothèques […] Je suis d'accord avec ce qui a été dit. J'ai utilisé pendant pas mal de temps DigiKam avec une grosse base de données de photos et je n'ai jamais eu de soucis avec. […] Mais arrêtez, puisque Bernard vous dit qu’il a raison, enfin ! Quand verrez-vous la lumière ? La lumière du canon, celle qui permet d'allumer la poudre ? Désolé pour la teneur du message mais ta suffisance commence à me courir sur le haricot, et je ne suis pas le seul. Tu sonnes lamentablement creux et tu es l'illustration du pire obstacle à l'adoption des logiciels libres. Bonjour, J'ai envie de reprendre une citation inspirée d'Albert Einstein : Lorsque le raisonnement conduit à un problème, le même raisonnement n'arrivera point à le résoudre ... S'exprimer par analogies, charades et citations pour se donner des airs de supériorité n'illusionne que celui qui s'y adonne. Je craque autant que toi du fait que les personnes ne lisent pas le fond mais survolent juste ce qui les conforte dans leurs idées ... Il semble que l'ironie d'un message t'échappe parfois. Autrement, j'ai l'impression qu'il veulent transformer debian en machine à écrire Transformer debian en machine à écrire ? Debian est un système informatique, une machine à écrire un objet, si quelqu'un parvient à effectuer cette transmutation il mérite le respect. pour dire qu'ils sont les rois de l'informatique Être considéré le roi de l'informatique parce qu'on se sert d'une machine à écrire, quelque chose m'échappe. alors qu'il n'ont pas encore 10 000 heures de vol au minimum Et maintenant nous voila pilotes, de machine à écrire Debian je suppose, effectivement atteindre les 1 heures de vol ne sera pas une sinécure. Tu as visiblement du mal à suivre le fil des tes propres idées. Mais, à force de faire ce genre de bévues, ils se planterons tout seul et lorsque le problème sérieux viendra, ils n'obtiendrons aucune réponse valide ... Il y a longtemps que personne n'en attend de ta part. merci de ien vouloir indiquer un lien pour les listes de bac à sable locales : GUL || LUG Du dédain pour les GUL et les débutants, je ne voit pas en quoi les listes debian-user* seraient un sanctuaire de vieux éléphants par opposition aux GUL qui seraient des garderies pour jeunes écervelés. Vu le niveau de certaines réponses sur la liste debian-user-fr je doute du bien fondé de cette hiérarchie. liens : http://aful.org/gul http://www.lea-linux.org/documentations/index.php/Annuaire:LUG_France j'ai bien l'impression que les novices veulent rouler en F1 avant de savoir pédaler à bicyclette ... Quand on a piloté une machine à écrire pendant 1 heures on n'est plus à ça près... Il faut quand même : 2' 30 + 9 mois + 20 ans pour faire un être humain adulte censé ? Le lien de nécessité entre la valeur et le nombre des années a été démenti maintes fois, certains peinent bien plus longtemps pour devenir sensés. et les autres veulent juste avoir 2' 30 pour arriver au stade final ... la nature est ainsi faite qu'il faille consacrer du temps pour progresser ... Ça c'est bien vrai, 1 heures pour apprendre à voler en machine à écrire, tout ça pour concourir en F1 sur une bicyclette, qu'il en faut du temps. slt bernard Au fait, Digikam ? Debian ? Qu'en disait Albert Einstein ? PS : Libre à toi de rediriger le message vers la liste si l'envie t'en prend, j'ai préféré te l'envoyer en privé pour ne pas la polluer plus qu'elle ne l'est déjà et ménager ta susceptibilité. Bonne continuation. bonjour, J'ai eu ce message directement en privé ... quand à ma suceptibilité c'est à voir par les faits, si je le suis réellement ou pas du fait que j'essaye de donner les informations nécessaires ... Mais que beaucoup de novices ne lisent pas ou ne comprennent point les informations que je donne ... Ensuite, serait il plus polit de ne pas se masquer derrière un pseudonyme ? Pour conclure, merci de ne pas réveiller les dinos de la liste sinon la bronca risque d'être dévastatrice ... slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste
RE: [HS] Bad news
(... ?!) Bonjour, Bonjour J'ai bien l'impression qu'il manque une case en france : Datenschutzrecht http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenschutzrecht C'est simplement que la page de Wikipedia n'a pas encore traité le cas de la France. La loi Informatique et Liberté de 1978 correspond à la protection des données personnelles informatisées. Celles -ci couvrent tous les champs du droit (consommateur, banque, médecin... Dans la mesure où l'informatique est devenu incontournable pour stocker les données relatives aux clients. Il y a d'ailleurs une autorité de contrôle en France. http://www.cnil.fr/vos-libertes/vos-droits/ Les sanctions pénales sont dissuasive : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do;jsessionid=E0F1162650D18FD2B689CCAD7BE7CD72.tpdjo07v_3?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA06165313cidTexte=LEGITEXT06070719dateTexte=20110327 Ainsi, les entreprises qui vendent des fichiers de consommateurs - les entreprises de ciblage marketing - qui permettent à des centrales téléphoniques de vous appeler tard le soir, d'inonder votre boîte aux lettres de courriers publicitaires et votre email de pourriel - se situent souvent hors de France (et notamment en Angleterre) pour des raisons légales, à savoir que le droit anglais est plus permissif (logique économique de la common law) et surtout les sanctions sont économiques et non pas pénales. Ceux qui ne sont pas astreints aux règles de cette loi sont ceux qui conservent un dossier clients en version papier. Toutefois, la protection des données personnelles, ou même de la vie privée, même en version papier est assuré par d'autres moyens : - le secret professionnel (article 226- 13 suivants du Code pénal, http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do;jsessionid=E0F1162650D18FD2B689CCAD7BE7CD72.tpdjo07v_3?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA06181756cidTexte=LEGITEXT06070719dateTexte=20110327), qui connaît également des aménagements pour rendre quasiment inviolables les cabinets d'avocats (les perquisitions sont extrêmements encadrées, ce qui rendent leur pratique quasi impossible à mettre en oeuvre). Par ailleurs, un avocat ayant une obligation légale de conserver le secret, il ne peut pas être reconnu responsable de ne pas avoir révéler une infraction dont il avait connaissance (fait justificatif légal = heureusement sinon ce métier perdrait tout son sens). - l'usurpation d'identité en ligne : Article 226-4-1 du Code pénal (Créé par LOI n°2011-267 du 14 mars 2011 - art. 2 ) Le fait d'usurper l'identité d'un tiers ou de faire usage d'une ou plusieurs données de toute nature permettant de l'identifier en vue de troubler sa tranquillité ou celle d'autrui, ou de porter atteinte à son honneur ou à sa considération, est puni d'un an d'emprisonnement et de 15 000 € d'amende. Cette infraction est punie des mêmes peines lorsqu'elle est commise sur un réseau de communication au public en ligne. Finalement, ce nouvel article peut être appliqué au blogueur anonyme qui ne souhaite pas révéler son identité. Si l'un de ses commentateurs viole ce secret, une plainte peut être déposé et le commentateur se voir attrait devant le Tribunal correctionnel. - l'atteinte au secret des correspondances : Article 226-15 du Code pénal Le fait, commis de mauvaise foi, d'ouvrir, de supprimer, de retarder ou de détourner des correspondances arrivées ou non à destination et adressées à des tiers, ou d'en prendre frauduleusement connaissance, est puni d'un an d'emprisonnement et de 45000 euros d'amende. Est puni des mêmes peines le fait, commis de mauvaise foi, d'intercepter, de détourner, d'utiliser ou de divulguer des correspondances émises, transmises ou reçues par la voie des télécommunications ou de procéder à l'installation d'appareils conçus pour réaliser de telles interceptions. L'email est bien une correspondance privée. Point n'est discussion, même si dans Challenges ou Biba magazine ils disent le contraire. Il est retenu à titre de preuve, sans aucune difficulté, par les tribunaux de commerce au même titre qu'un écrit dans le cadre des contentieux juridiciaires. Il a bien le statut de correspondance privée. En revanche, nos échanges sur cette liste sont considérés comme des échanges publiques. Ce n'est pas l'outil informatique qui est considéré par le droit, mais bien la finalité de son utilisation. L'accès à la discussion par des tiers étrangers à la discussion rend la communication publique, même si l'email est le moyen utilisé. Cela signifie notamment que les propos tenus sont soumis à la loi de 1881 sur le droit de la presse et que les infractions de diffamation peuvent être retenues - ou plus simplement les insultes qui font l'objet d'une contravention. Par ailleurs, la protection de la vie privée est également renforcée par le principe général posé en 1804 dans le Code civil en son article 6 : Chacun a droit au respect de sa vie privée. Les juges peuvent, sans préjudice de la réparation du
Re: [HS] Bad news
Le Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:29:53 +0200, romain boucq rbo...@alter-via.fr a écrit : (... ?!) Bonjour, Bonjour J'ai bien l'impression qu'il manque une case en france : Datenschutzrecht http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenschutzrecht C'est simplement que la page de Wikipedia n'a pas encore traité le cas de la France. La loi Informatique et Liberté de 1978 correspond à la protection des données personnelles informatisées. Celles -ci couvrent tous les champs du droit (consommateur, banque, médecin... Dans la mesure où l'informatique est devenu incontournable pour stocker les données relatives aux clients. Il y a d'ailleurs une autorité de contrôle en France. http://www.cnil.fr/vos-libertes/vos-droits/ Les sanctions pénales sont dissuasive : http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do;jsessionid=E0F1162650D18FD2B689CCAD7BE7CD72.tpdjo07v_3?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA06165313cidTexte=LEGITEXT06070719dateTexte=20110327 Ainsi, les entreprises qui vendent des fichiers de consommateurs - les entreprises de ciblage marketing - qui permettent à des centrales téléphoniques de vous appeler tard le soir, d'inonder votre boîte aux lettres de courriers publicitaires et votre email de pourriel - se situent souvent hors de France (et notamment en Angleterre) pour des raisons légales, à savoir que le droit anglais est plus permissif (logique économique de la common law) et surtout les sanctions sont économiques et non pas pénales. Ceux qui ne sont pas astreints aux règles de cette loi sont ceux qui conservent un dossier clients en version papier. Toutefois, la protection des données personnelles, ou même de la vie privée, même en version papier est assuré par d'autres moyens : - le secret professionnel (article 226- 13 suivants du Code pénal, http://www.legifrance.gouv.fr/affichCode.do;jsessionid=E0F1162650D18FD2B689CCAD7BE7CD72.tpdjo07v_3?idSectionTA=LEGISCTA06181756cidTexte=LEGITEXT06070719dateTexte=20110327), qui connaît également des aménagements pour rendre quasiment inviolables les cabinets d'avocats (les perquisitions sont extrêmements encadrées, ce qui rendent leur pratique quasi impossible à mettre en oeuvre). Par ailleurs, un avocat ayant une obligation légale de conserver le secret, il ne peut pas être reconnu responsable de ne pas avoir révéler une infraction dont il avait connaissance (fait justificatif légal = heureusement sinon ce métier perdrait tout son sens). - l'usurpation d'identité en ligne : Article 226-4-1 du Code pénal (Créé par LOI n°2011-267 du 14 mars 2011 - art. 2 ) Le fait d'usurper l'identité d'un tiers ou de faire usage d'une ou plusieurs données de toute nature permettant de l'identifier en vue de troubler sa tranquillité ou celle d'autrui, ou de porter atteinte à son honneur ou à sa considération, est puni d'un an d'emprisonnement et de 15 000 € d'amende. Cette infraction est punie des mêmes peines lorsqu'elle est commise sur un réseau de communication au public en ligne. Finalement, ce nouvel article peut être appliqué au blogueur anonyme qui ne souhaite pas révéler son identité. Si l'un de ses commentateurs viole ce secret, une plainte peut être déposé et le commentateur se voir attrait devant le Tribunal correctionnel. - l'atteinte au secret des correspondances : Article 226-15 du Code pénal Le fait, commis de mauvaise foi, d'ouvrir, de supprimer, de retarder ou de détourner des correspondances arrivées ou non à destination et adressées à des tiers, ou d'en prendre frauduleusement connaissance, est puni d'un an d'emprisonnement et de 45000 euros d'amende. Est puni des mêmes peines le fait, commis de mauvaise foi, d'intercepter, de détourner, d'utiliser ou de divulguer des correspondances émises, transmises ou reçues par la voie des télécommunications ou de procéder à l'installation d'appareils conçus pour réaliser de telles interceptions. L'email est bien une correspondance privée. Point n'est discussion, même si dans Challenges ou Biba magazine ils disent le contraire. Il est retenu à titre de preuve, sans aucune difficulté, par les tribunaux de commerce au même titre qu'un écrit dans le cadre des contentieux juridiciaires. Il a bien le statut de correspondance privée. En revanche, nos échanges sur cette liste sont considérés comme des échanges publiques. Ce n'est pas l'outil informatique qui est considéré par le droit, mais bien la finalité de son utilisation. L'accès à la discussion par des tiers étrangers à la discussion rend la communication publique, même si l'email est le moyen utilisé. Cela signifie notamment que les propos tenus sont soumis à la loi de 1881 sur le droit de la presse et que les infractions de diffamation peuvent être retenues - ou plus simplement les insultes qui font l'objet d'une contravention. Par ailleurs, la protection de la vie privée est également renforcée par le principe général posé en 1804 dans
Re: lftp et le respect des propriétaires et groupes
Le 15058ième jour après Epoch, cor...@free.fr écrivait: On est donc loin de l'erreur monumentale et catastrophique ... Vous n'avez rien compris. Il a écrit catasTROPIQUE et pas cataSTROPHIQUE Suivez un peu... Je sais, c'est dur :) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k4fk26ak@fermat.tourde.home
Re: Fw: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le 27/03/2011 11:39, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : - Message Transféré - Date: Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:21:29 +0200 De: tv.deb...@googlemail.com tv.deb...@googlemail.com À: bernard.schoenac...@free.fr Sujet: Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian Le 27/03/2011 08:46, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:13 +0100, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : ’soir, Le samedi 26 mars 2011 à 01:53:42, Thibault Dupuis a écrit : Le 25 mars 2011 à 23:59, tv.deb...@googlemail.com a écrit : Bonsoir, j'utilise Digikam au quotidien et je confirme qu'il s'agit d'un logiciel parfaitement adapté à la gestion de larges photothèques […] Je suis d'accord avec ce qui a été dit. J'ai utilisé pendant pas mal de temps DigiKam avec une grosse base de données de photos et je n'ai jamais eu de soucis avec. […] Mais arrêtez, puisque Bernard vous dit qu’il a raison, enfin ! Quand verrez-vous la lumière ? La lumière du canon, celle qui permet d'allumer la poudre ? Désolé pour la teneur du message mais ta suffisance commence à me courir sur le haricot, et je ne suis pas le seul. Tu sonnes lamentablement creux et tu es l'illustration du pire obstacle à l'adoption des logiciels libres. Bonjour, J'ai envie de reprendre une citation inspirée d'Albert Einstein : Lorsque le raisonnement conduit à un problème, le même raisonnement n'arrivera point à le résoudre ... S'exprimer par analogies, charades et citations pour se donner des airs de supériorité n'illusionne que celui qui s'y adonne. Je craque autant que toi du fait que les personnes ne lisent pas le fond mais survolent juste ce qui les conforte dans leurs idées ... Il semble que l'ironie d'un message t'échappe parfois. Autrement, j'ai l'impression qu'il veulent transformer debian en machine à écrire Transformer debian en machine à écrire ? Debian est un système informatique, une machine à écrire un objet, si quelqu'un parvient à effectuer cette transmutation il mérite le respect. pour dire qu'ils sont les rois de l'informatique Être considéré le roi de l'informatique parce qu'on se sert d'une machine à écrire, quelque chose m'échappe. alors qu'il n'ont pas encore 10 000 heures de vol au minimum Et maintenant nous voila pilotes, de machine à écrire Debian je suppose, effectivement atteindre les 1 heures de vol ne sera pas une sinécure. Tu as visiblement du mal à suivre le fil des tes propres idées. Mais, à force de faire ce genre de bévues, ils se planterons tout seul et lorsque le problème sérieux viendra, ils n'obtiendrons aucune réponse valide ... Il y a longtemps que personne n'en attend de ta part. merci de ien vouloir indiquer un lien pour les listes de bac à sable locales : GUL || LUG Du dédain pour les GUL et les débutants, je ne voit pas en quoi les listes debian-user* seraient un sanctuaire de vieux éléphants par opposition aux GUL qui seraient des garderies pour jeunes écervelés. Vu le niveau de certaines réponses sur la liste debian-user-fr je doute du bien fondé de cette hiérarchie. liens : http://aful.org/gul http://www.lea-linux.org/documentations/index.php/Annuaire:LUG_France j'ai bien l'impression que les novices veulent rouler en F1 avant de savoir pédaler à bicyclette ... Quand on a piloté une machine à écrire pendant 1 heures on n'est plus à ça près... Il faut quand même : 2' 30 + 9 mois + 20 ans pour faire un être humain adulte censé ? Le lien de nécessité entre la valeur et le nombre des années a été démenti maintes fois, certains peinent bien plus longtemps pour devenir sensés. et les autres veulent juste avoir 2' 30 pour arriver au stade final ... la nature est ainsi faite qu'il faille consacrer du temps pour progresser ... Ça c'est bien vrai, 1 heures pour apprendre à voler en machine à écrire, tout ça pour concourir en F1 sur une bicyclette, qu'il en faut du temps. slt bernard Au fait, Digikam ? Debian ? Qu'en disait Albert Einstein ? PS : Libre à toi de rediriger le message vers la liste si l'envie t'en prend, j'ai préféré te l'envoyer en privé pour ne pas la polluer plus qu'elle ne l'est déjà et ménager ta susceptibilité. Bonne continuation. bonjour, J'ai eu ce message directement en privé ... quand à ma suceptibilité c'est à voir par les faits, si je le suis réellement ou pas du fait que j'essaye de donner les informations nécessaires ... Mais que beaucoup de novices ne lisent pas ou ne comprennent point les informations que je donne ... Peut-être faudrait-il commencer à mettre en question la pertinence, la forme et le ton des informations en question ? Ensuite, serait il plus polit de ne pas se masquer derrière un
Re: Fw: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
On 03/27/2011 01:08 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Le 27/03/2011 11:39, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f230b.7020...@gmail.com
Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:44:11 +0200, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : On 03/27/2011 01:08 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Le 27/03/2011 11:39, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 bonjour, Puisque quelques uns veulent me faire déraper ... http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_de_Godwin Autre détail, l'ensemble de ce fil est vraiment fort décalé du fait qu'il a soufflé le fond du premier sujet ... Qui plus est, c'est une entorse à la charte établie pour cette liste de diffusion ... Par conséquent, je souhaiterai et inciterai volontiers à l'ensemble des impétrands de simplement se conformer aux usages explicites indiqués par le wiki ... références : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Et pour mémoire prière de se référer à l'article 5 du contrat social Debian ... cqfd slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327141510.5f177cec.bernard.schoenacker_free.fr@hamtaro
Re: Comment avoir le dépôt backports par défaut?
On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:39:22 +0100 Anthony Bourguignon debian+lists.user-fre...@toniob.net wrote: Le 23/03/11 14:50, Charles Plessy a écrit : Le Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:11:34AM +0100, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit : Sur une Lenny fraichement installée, j'ai un soucis avec le LDAP qui vient avec la Lenny à cause d'un GnuTLS foireux. Pardon pour le HS. S'il s'agit bien effectivement de Lenny, j'ai quelques souvenir de la migration de etch vers lenny (il y a déjà bien longtemps !). Et je me rappelle d'un soucis à propos de LDAP qui avait à l'époque choisit d'utiliser GnuTLS (en lieu et place de SSL, sous Etch). GnuTLS n'était pas foiré. J'avais cherché quelques heures. Il faut juste modifier quelques peu ta config de LDAP. Cordialement. -- Salutations. Jean-Claude ÉCONOMISTE : Expert qui saura demain pourquoi ce qu'il a prédit hier n'est pas arrivé aujourd'hui. Pierre DESPROGES -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327170906.2286f...@debian1-home.aygalenq.net
Re: Comment avoir le dépôt backports par défaut?
Le Sun, 27 Mar 2011 17:09:06 +0200, JC jc2...@aygalenq.net a écrit : On Wed, 23 Mar 2011 16:39:22 +0100 Anthony Bourguignon debian+lists.user-fre...@toniob.net wrote: Le 23/03/11 14:50, Charles Plessy a écrit : Le Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 08:11:34AM +0100, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit : Sur une Lenny fraichement installée, j'ai un soucis avec le LDAP qui vient avec la Lenny à cause d'un GnuTLS foireux. Pardon pour le HS. S'il s'agit bien effectivement de Lenny, j'ai quelques souvenir de la migration de etch vers lenny (il y a déjà bien longtemps !). Et je me rappelle d'un soucis à propos de LDAP qui avait à l'époque choisit d'utiliser GnuTLS (en lieu et place de SSL, sous Etch). GnuTLS n'était pas foiré. J'avais cherché quelques heures. Il faut juste modifier quelques peu ta config de LDAP. Cordialement. bonjour, j'ai répondu directement à Olivier Pavilla ... lien : http://archive.debian.org/README http://archive.debian.net/ donc pour moi et pour l'instant la question est close sauf s'il éprove des misères avec Ldap ... slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327180137.7f737dd9.bernard.schoenacker_free.fr@hamtaro
Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le 27/03/2011 14:15, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Sun, 27 Mar 2011 13:44:11 +0200, maderios mader...@gmail.com a écrit : On 03/27/2011 01:08 PM, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote: Le 27/03/2011 11:39, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troll_%28Internet%29 bonjour, Puisque quelques uns veulent me faire déraper ... Il y a longtemps que c'est fait. http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loi_de_Godwin Autre détail, l'ensemble de ce fil est vraiment fort décalé du fait qu'il a soufflé le fond du premier sujet ... Qui plus est, c'est une entorse à la charte établie pour cette liste de diffusion ... Par conséquent, je souhaiterai et inciterai volontiers à l'ensemble des impétrands de simplement se conformer aux usages explicites indiqués par le wiki ... références : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Et ? Où est-il écrite qu'il est interdit de signaler à quelqu'un qu'il prend la liste pour un espace où décharger sa frustration sur les nouveaux arrivant ? Où est-il mentionné que la liste est un contoir de bistrot, et qu'il faille vénérer les flatulences intellectuelles de ses piliers ? Au fait, impétrands ? Vraiment ? Et pour mémoire prière de se référer à l'article 5 du contrat social Debian ... Et ? Tu te sens discriminé par les termes d'une licence ? cqfd Démontrer quoi, à qui ? Je croyais qu'il était question d'entre-aide ici. Si on estime qu'un intervenant ne mérite pas qu'on fasse l'effort de l'aider, on peut toujours laisser le soin aux autres de le faire. Réserve ta science et tes analogies pour les gens de ta classe qui sauront l'apprécier à sa juste valeur, ça fera des vacances au newbies et à ceux qui ont à cœur de les aider. slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f6871.4080...@googlemail.com
Re: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
’soir, Le dimanche 27 mars 2011 à 08:46:58, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Sat, 26 Mar 2011 20:39:13 +0100, Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr a écrit : ’soir, […] Mais arrêtez, puisque Bernard vous dit qu’il a raison, enfin ! Quand verrez-vous la lumière ? […] Je craque autant que toi du fait que les personnes ne lisent pas le fond mais survolent juste ce qui les conforte dans leurs idées ... Ça, tu peux le dire. Ou « woosh », comme ils disent là-bas… […] -- Sylvain Sauvage -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103271846.13783.sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr
Re: [cups] Impression en reseau
Le Wed 23/03/2011, zut...@laposte.net disait Bonjour, J'ai un serveur d'impression sous Debian testing. L'imprimante est parfaitement reconnu et fonctionne sur le serveur à l'aide de cups. J'essaye d'imprimer en réseau avec une Debian stable. Cups repère l'imprimante en question lorsque je veut créer une nouvel imprimante. Voici la façon dont je mis prend à partir du client: Donc tu as un serveur, mais tu ne veux pas l'utiliser pour imprimer ? Parceque pour passer par le serveur il suffit 1) sur le serveur de partager l'imprimante 2) sur le client d'avoir un /etc/cups/client.conf qui contient ServerName nom du serveur Et c'est tout... -- Erwan -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327165155.gb...@rail.eu.org
Re: Fw: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le dimanche 27 mars 2011, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : J'ai envie de reprendre une citation inspirée d'Albert Einstein : Lorsque le raisonnement conduit à un problème, le même raisonnement n'arrivera point à le résoudre ... ... slt bernard On prête à Albert Einstein beaucoup de citations. Einstein aurait dit (allez savoir ...) : si c'est gratuit, c'est que ça ne vaut rien Concernant GNU/Linux, est-ce la cas ? Bonne soirée. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103272044.38137.cor...@free.fr
Re: Fw: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:50:02 +0200, corbie a écrit : On prête à Albert Einstein beaucoup de citations. Einstein aurait dit (allez savoir ...) : si c'est gratuit, c'est que ça ne vaut rien Concernant GNU/Linux, est-ce la cas ? Albert l'a vendu combien sa fameuse formule ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f8d8d$0$23732$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Fw: [HS]Re: Digikam, KDE et Debian
Le dimanche 27 mars 2011, moi-meme a écrit : Le Sun, 27 Mar 2011 20:50:02 +0200, corbie a écrit : On prête à Albert Einstein beaucoup de citations. Einstein aurait dit (allez savoir ...) : si c'est gratuit, c'est que ça ne vaut rien Concernant GNU/Linux, est-ce le cas ? --- ... et concernant aussi la majorité des logiciels libres. Albert l'a vendu combien sa fameuse formule ? : Je ne comprends pas ... Sa citation exacte était : S’il n’y a pas de prix à payer, c’est que celà ne vaut rien Einstein, on ne le présente plus ... large contribution au développement de la mécanique quantique et de la cosmologie, prix Nobel de physique de 1921 (pour son explication de l’effet photoélectrique), mais ... il n'était pas très visionnaire. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103272231.38137.cor...@free.fr
Software HelpDesk
Buenas tardes lista, Quiciera recurrir a ustedes para ver que software de HelpDesk me recomiendan, yo he usado GLPI pero quiciera saber si ustedes me sugieren algún otro. Gracias. --
Configuracion de teclado en la pantalla de inicio de sesion
Saludos a la Comunidad Ayer arranque con Squeeze, cargo la pantalla de inicio de sesion, luego di click a mi usuario y en el menu de teclado agregue una nueva configuracion de teclado (Latinoamerica con algunas modificaciones). Ahora bien, la cuestion es como puedo quitar esa configuracion de teclado que agrege al menu de configuracion de teclados? No es que yo simplemente no pueda ovbiarla, la cuestion es que ya no aparezca, y que solo me aparezca la configuracion Latinoamerica. De antemano gracias -- Carlos Alvarez
Re: Software HelpDesk
RT www.bestpractical.com/rt On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 17:01 -0500, andres cespedes wrote: Buenas tardes lista, Quiciera recurrir a ustedes para ver que software de HelpDesk me recomiendan, yo he usado GLPI pero quiciera saber si ustedes me sugieren algún otro. Gracias. -- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: Software HelpDesk
2011/3/27 Joel Rosental R. joel.rosen...@imdea.org: RT www.bestpractical.com/rt On Sun, 2011-03-27 at 17:01 -0500, andres cespedes wrote: Buenas tardes lista, Quiciera recurrir a ustedes para ver que software de HelpDesk me recomiendan, yo he usado GLPI pero quiciera saber si ustedes me sugieren algún otro. Gracias. -- OTRS tambien es muy bueno -- Diego Chacón Rojas diego.cha...@gmail.com San Jose Costa Rica .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot USER 350910 MACHINE 244435 No me envie correos en formatos propietarios http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.debian.org/intro/about.es.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTimZ_kPxiCeiL2n0ZG=0wurupdt1bjkbhh+db...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Software HelpDesk
Gracias por sus prontas respuestas, voy a probarlos. PD: Los que me acaban de mencionar son de pago o son opensource/free?
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
El vie, 25-03-2011 a las 22:42 -0600, Robinson Guevara escribió: Saludos amigos Debianeros .. ! Una Breve historia. (No tienes por que leerla si no quieres) Les cuento que mi mama tiene una pc Acer aspire one (de esas pequeñas que no tienen lector de cd) la tiene con el OS que traia pod defecto [Windows XP] pero se vive quejando de que por que se queda trabada la maquina, que muy lenta, que tiene virus.. en fin de todo casi . Un dia como que le entro curiosidad y al estar viendo cuando trabajaba en mi pc me pregunta ¿Que Windows es ese? (Me causo algo de gracia y le sonreí ) Aqui no savia que contestarle por que Yo savia que si me ponía a contarle que es debian NO ME IBA A ENTENDER , ASi que solo le dije, Este NO es Windows Se llama debian ,es Otro Sistema operativo . ¿Y que Tiene de Diferente? , un par de cosas ¿Como Que? Que no se llena de Virus,No se pone lento,no se traba,Es Gratis. y solo me dijo y se fue jajaja pero hace un par de dias me pregunto si no podía Reparar su pc yo le dije que si cuando quisiera.. pero me pregunto si no le podía instalar el Programa Debian jajajajaja Me reí un poco y le dije que hera un gusto para mi instalarle Debian a su PC.(No quise hablarle mas de Debian para no Confundirla en el camino le iré aclarando sus dudas ). Asi que e aquí mi problema No se como hacer una USB Bootable con Debian 6. Si alguien puede ayudarme le estaré muy agradecido. Pasen Buen día Gracias . y no se te ocurrio buscar en la documentacion?? si no te queda como siempre http://www.usaelputogoogle.com -- Robinson E. Guevara R. Debian 6 [Squeeze] robinsonguev...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1301266315.2553.1.ca...@gabita2.angel-alvarez.com.ar
Re: Software HelpDesk
2011/3/27 andres cespedes andres172...@gmail.com: Gracias por sus prontas respuestas, voy a probarlos. PD: Los que me acaban de mencionar son de pago o son opensource/free? otrs opensource/free y tiene soporte de pago si usted quiere -- Diego Chacón Rojas diego.cha...@gmail.com San Jose Costa Rica .-. /v\ L I N U X // \\ /( )\ ^^-^^ This is Unix-Land. In quiet nights, you can hear the Windows machines reboot USER 350910 MACHINE 244435 No me envie correos en formatos propietarios http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.es.html http://www.debian.org/intro/about.es.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=jp4v1gv_iprvpsccc+513tead9tx_bdxyl...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Software HelpDesk
Gracias CHACO.
Terminal-client manager para debian
Estimados, He estado buscando si hay algún complemento o manager para multiples conexiones por terminal. Ustedes conocen o recomiendan alguno? (es para usarlo en Debian y conectarme a otras maquinas) Desde ya gracias -- Atte. Pablo Zúñiga E (+56 9) - 82129677 Blog: http://ed00m.wordpress.com; http://blog.ed00m.tubencinera.cl | MSN Gtalk: pabl...@gmail.com | Skype: ed00m_ ===
Re: Terminal-client manager para debian
Mi buen Pablo Yo te puedo recomendar clusterssh que sirve para administrar varios equipos mediante una conexión ssh a cada uno de ellos. Espero te sirva y suerte El 27 de marzo de 2011 18:23, Pablo Zuñiga pabl...@gmail.com escribió: Estimados, He estado buscando si hay algún complemento o manager para multiples conexiones por terminal. Ustedes conocen o recomiendan alguno? (es para usarlo en Debian y conectarme a otras maquinas) Desde ya gracias -- Atte. Pablo Zúñiga E (+56 9) - 82129677 Blog: http://ed00m.wordpress.com; http://blog.ed00m.tubencinera.cl | MSN Gtalk: pabl...@gmail.com | Skype: ed00m_ === -- Atte: Mario Rivas Medrano Laboratorio de Origen de la Vida Facultad de Ciencias, UNAM Telefono: 56224823 Celular: 5523083095
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
Gracias a Todos por responder a mi pregunta y aclarar mi duda .. Con estas opciones creeo que ya tengo todo listo .. lo boy a intentar el Miercoles ya que es el dia que tengo internet de 1Mb / Seg y aprovecho a descargarme el cd ya que solo tengo el DVD y mi USB es de 4gb :D. Gracaias de nuevo les cuento como me va! -- Robinson E. Guevara R. https://profiles.google.com/RobinsonGuevara Debian 6 [Squeeze] https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/oNccd9BOhrd8hLmkL6JAUA?feat=directlink
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
El 27 de marzo de 2011 20:47, Robinson Guevara robinsonguev...@gmail.com escribió: Gracias a Todos por responder a mi pregunta y aclarar mi duda .. Con estas opciones creeo que ya tengo todo listo .. lo boy a intentar el Miercoles ya que es el dia que tengo internet de 1Mb / Seg y aprovecho a descargarme el cd ya que solo tengo el DVD y mi USB es de 4gb :D. Gracaias de nuevo les cuento como me va! -- Robinson E. Guevara R. Debian 6 [Squeeze] Antes de que te vallas, te recomiendo revisar las normas de la lista, que redundan en cosas básicas como ser muy cortés, tomarte el tiempo de hacer una buena pregunta habiendo buscado ya información en internet o leyendo el manual no usar html o texto enriquecido, solo usar texto plano, no escribir muchas palabras por línea, y responder siempre debajo del mensaje, osea no hacer top-posting. Gracias y buen pasaje por la lista. -- LARGA VIDA Y PODEROSA. Blog de Haldrik -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktim9ajdaeycmahuzaa9ttufd17wx1acugcml8...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Como crear una USB Bootable de Dibian 6
Casi puedo ver como esto terminara. Sería bueno que trabajara con una live-usb persistente para que lo pruebe por un momento para ver si se acostumbra y si le termina costando mucho trabajo pues siempre estará su otro sistema operativo. En fin.. los pasos son: - Descarga la imagen de debian live con gnome desde http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.1-live/i386/usb-hdd/debian-live-6.0.1-i386-gnome-desktop.img - Has 2 particiones ext3, con gparted, en tu memoria usb la segunda con la etiqueta 'live-rw' (sin los apóstrofos) la etiqueta de la primera partición no importa. - Con el mismo gparted da click derecho sobre la primera partición y da click en gestionar flags, selecciona la que dice boot y aplica los cambios. - Copia el contenido del iso que descargaste a la primera partición (Asegúrate de copiar los archivos ocultos también) - Ahora se debera instalar un bootloader en la particion donde descomprimiste el iso... para ello usaremos extlinux (paquete disponible desde debian 6) una vez instalado extlinux en tu máquina ejecuta el siguiente comando para que lo instale en tu memoria: extlinux --install /media/Mi_memoria_usb_particion_1/syslinux - Ahora creamos un master boot record para la memoria con: dd if=/usr/lib/syslinux/mbr.bin of=/dev/sda (remplaza sda por la ruta de tu dispositivo y sin especificar el número de partición) - Abre la primera partición dentro hay una carpeta llamada syslinux y dentro un archivo llamado syslinux.cfg, renombre este a extlinux.cfg - Abre el archivo live.cfg y agrega la linea 5 (La linea de append) la palabra persistent quedando algo como 'append initrd=/live/initrd.img boot=live config quiet persistent' - Finalmente habré el archivo extlinux.cfg y cambia la linea 'timeout 00' a 'timeout 03' esto es por si llegara a no detectar el teclado en un inicio, no se quede congelado la pantalla del intro del bootloader... Ahora si enséñale y convéncela... Saludos
Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian
No sabía que Debian® fuera marca registrada... que triste :(
Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian
2011/3/27 Jaime Velázquez quetzalcoat...@gmail.com: No sabía que Debian® fuera marca registrada... que triste :( Hmmm... no debería preguntar ... pero ... ¿por qué el que triste? -- Saludos, PP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinq6fw76gnflyazpi_tv5gjqidxfz_br8nkr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Tomand prestado el logo de Debian
El día 28 de marzo de 2011 00:45, Antonio Galicia antonio.gali...@gmail.com escribió: 2011/3/27 Jaime Velázquez quetzalcoat...@gmail.com: No sabía que Debian® fuera marca registrada... que triste :( Hmmm... no debería preguntar ... pero ... ¿por qué el que triste? Porque hay gente que no termina de entender la libertad, es decir le parece que como el sistema es libre TODO debe ser libre y me parece que no es tan así. Si no se registra el nombre de Debian, mañana puede aparecer una heladera con esa marca, o el nuevo Sistema Operativo de Microsoft podría llamarse MS Debian Windows Corto de Vista y nadie podria hacer nada contra eso, por lo tanto NO está mal que el Nombre se registre como marca. De acuerdo a la filosofia del Software Libre si sería grave o triste que se cierren partes del codigo, que no se pueda distribuir libremente todo el sistema, que no se pueda modificar alguna parte, etc. Eso seria lo triste. Espero que se entienda lo que quiero decir más allá de lo burdo de la forma. Sludos Juan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktimu-gvchfz5dhddezutwrezurtvc48vjopbw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Em 26.Mar.2011 (sábado), Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br disse: Marcos. O teclado funciona perfeitamente até o momento que entra o modo gráfico do login. Uso ele para acessar o setup da máquina, para escolher a opção do Grub, mas quando aparece o login nem o teclado nem o mouse funcionam mais. O teclado não responde nem o NumLock. O teclado é um bem simples da marca satellite. Fou usando ele que eu instalei o SO nesse servidor, já testei ele em outra máquina e está funcionando perfeitamente... Você tem /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Qual sua placa de rede? Já revisei todas as configurações do setup da bio. Faço a administração do servidor pelo programa webmin (que aliás, é uma mão na roda) e desativei alguns programas na inicialização, mas depois que ocorreu o problema eu já reativei todos os serviços que aparecem no menu e o problema continua. Ahhh, uso o webmin na própria máquina e não via rede, só para não restarem dúvidas!!! Quando ocorre a parelização eu plugo um teclado e um mouse usb e eles funcionam normalmente. Ainda não consegui achar onde se configura o dispositivo do mouse no gdm3 (que aliás, achei um monte de reclamações na net). Em 26-03-2011 20:52, Marcos Carraro escreveu: Camada de hardware? Cabos? Portas? BIOS? Atualização muito difícil :/ que teclado é ? so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também ocorre isto? -- att Marcos Carraro Linux user #511627 Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Saudações a todos. Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64. Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin. Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente. Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser? ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e3f38.8090...@yahoo.com.br -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e7ffb.7090...@yahoo.com.br -- ...agora, só nos sobrou o futuro..., visto em www.manuchao.net Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327104037.1d490...@azul.gbcm
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Bom dia Gunther. Sim tenho o xorg.conf. Mas o que tem haver a placa de rede com o assunto Ps. Para ter certeza do momento que o teclado é desligado eu fico ligando e desligando NumLock durante o boot até que ele para de funcionar, que é o momento que entra a interface gráfica. Em 27-03-2011 10:40, Gunther Furtado escreveu: Em 26.Mar.2011 (sábado), Cleber Ianescleberia...@yahoo.com.br disse: Marcos. O teclado funciona perfeitamente até o momento que entra o modo gráfico do login. Uso ele para acessar o setup da máquina, para escolher a opção do Grub, mas quando aparece o login nem o teclado nem o mouse funcionam mais. O teclado não responde nem o NumLock. O teclado é um bem simples da marca satellite. Fou usando ele que eu instalei o SO nesse servidor, já testei ele em outra máquina e está funcionando perfeitamente... Você tem /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Qual sua placa de rede? Já revisei todas as configurações do setup da bio. Faço a administração do servidor pelo programa webmin (que aliás, é uma mão na roda) e desativei alguns programas na inicialização, mas depois que ocorreu o problema eu já reativei todos os serviços que aparecem no menu e o problema continua. Ahhh, uso o webmin na própria máquina e não via rede, só para não restarem dúvidas!!! Quando ocorre a parelização eu plugo um teclado e um mouse usb e eles funcionam normalmente. Ainda não consegui achar onde se configura o dispositivo do mouse no gdm3 (que aliás, achei um monte de reclamações na net). Em 26-03-2011 20:52, Marcos Carraro escreveu: Camada de hardware? Cabos? Portas? BIOS? Atualização muito difícil :/ que teclado é ? so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também ocorre isto? -- att Marcos Carraro Linux user #511627 Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber Ianescleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Saudações a todos. Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64. Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin. Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente. Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser? ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e3f38.8090...@yahoo.com.br -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8e7ffb.7090...@yahoo.com.br -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f432b.3040...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Boa tarde Rodrigo. Boa idéia, vou tentar iniciar em modo texto. Mas a idéia de instalar o Kde... Não me agradou muito. rsrsrsrsrs Mas ficará como a última opção. Obrigado. Em 27-03-2011 11:58, Rodrigo Lira escreveu: Cara isso isso parece ser bug no gnome, tenta instalar o kde pra ver no que da, outra coisa pelo que pode entender o seu X inicia automaticamente, tente colocar pra iniciar sem o X, pra ver no que da. Rodrigo Lira Técnico em Informática (83) 8754-5490 / 9906-2552 Msn: rbl1...@gmail.com Skype: rbl1984 -- Em 27 de março de 2011 11:01, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Bom dia Gunther. Sim tenho o xorg.conf. Mas o que tem haver a placa de rede com o assunto Ps. Para ter certeza do momento que o teclado é desligado eu fico ligando e desligando NumLock durante o boot até que ele para de funcionar, que é o momento que entra a interface gráfica. Em 27-03-2011 10:40, Gunther Furtado escreveu: Em 26.Mar.2011 (sábado), Cleber Ianescleberia...@yahoo.com.br disse: Marcos. O teclado funciona perfeitamente até o momento que entra o modo gráfico do login. Uso ele para acessar o setup da máquina, para escolher a opção do Grub, mas quando aparece o login nem o teclado nem o mouse funcionam mais. O teclado não responde nem o NumLock. O teclado é um bem simples da marca satellite. Fou usando ele que eu instalei o SO nesse servidor, já testei ele em outra máquina e está funcionando perfeitamente... Você tem /etc/X11/xorg.conf? Qual sua placa de rede? Já revisei todas as configurações do setup da bio. Faço a administração do servidor pelo programa webmin (que aliás, é "uma mão na roda") e desativei alguns programas na inicialização, mas depois que ocorreu o problema eu já reativei todos os serviços que aparecem no menu e o problema continua. Ahhh, uso o webmin na própria máquina e não via rede, só para não restarem dúvidas!!! Quando ocorre a parelização eu plugo um teclado e um mouse usb e eles funcionam normalmente. Ainda não consegui achar onde se configura o dispositivo do mouse no gdm3 (que aliás, achei um monte de reclamações na net). Em 26-03-2011 20:52, Marcos Carraro escreveu: Camada de hardware? Cabos? Portas? BIOS? Atualização muito difícil :/ que teclado é ? so no X tem esse problema ou em modo texto também ocorre isto? -- att Marcos Carraro Linux user #511627 Em 26 de março de 2011 16:32, Cleber Ianescleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Saudações a todos. Tenho um servidor com squeeze amd64. Andei desativando alguns serviços que não uso através do webmin. Então percebi que o teclado e mouse ps/2 são desligados no momento que aparece a tela de login. Se eu plugar teclado e mouse usb, os mesmo funcionam normalmente. Alguém tem idéia do que pode ser? ahhh, já reativei o que havia desativado e o problema continua. Obrigado. -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Bom dia Gunther. Sim tenho o xorg.conf. Mas o que tem haver a placa de rede com o assunto Ps. Para ter certeza do momento que o teclado é desligado eu fico ligando e desligando NumLock durante o boot até que ele para de funcionar, que é o momento que entra a interface gráfica. Bom dia, Cleber. Seria muito útil se você dissesse para a lista quais serviços desabilitou e habilitou novamente, assim alguém corajoso poderia se interessar em tentar reproduzir o que aconteceu na sua máquina. Se for realmente um erro do webmin, antes mesmo de consertar o seu problema, é muito mais produtivo descobrir o que aconteceu e submeter para os desenvolvedores do webmin. Você citou o gdm3. Se quiser ter certeza que é ele ou não, insira um exit 0 na segunda linha do /etc/init.d/gdm, ou use o metodo elegante debian, e use o sysv-rc-conf . Se o culpado for somente o gdm, ao entrar em modo texto, o teclado irá funcionar, e um startx não irá desabilitar o teclado. E você ainda tem outros suspeitos: xorg, xfs, x11-common, xrdp, kdm, libc6, badblocks no hd, bagunça no /etc/init.d, no /etc/rc*.d/, no /etc/inittab ... a listagem pode não ser pequena. Uma alternativa é usar o kdm, ou o xdm. Se não se lembra quais serviços você alterou, e portanto não pode dar maiores detalhes para a lista, volte o backup. Se não é um servidor de produção e portanto não tem backup, por não ter muita importância, formate, instale de novo e veja se o erro persiste ao alterar novamente com o webmin. (você fez backup antes de alterar a configuração, não fez? ) Em ultimo caso, instale uma maquina virtual com os mesmos pacotes, e não terá como escapar de escovar bits na configuração de um e de outro. Uma hora vc descobre o problema, que provavelmente mora no /etc. (ah, e sim, eu tb não acho que a sua placa de rede compartilhe o chipset(???), a irq ou o endereçamento de memoria do teclado. Afinal, vc já usou o teclado para navegar pelo grub, então, descarte tbm problema fisico no seu hardware :) ) Abraços Tux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103271227.59976.tux_lit...@yahoo.com
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Em 27.Mar.2011 (domingo), Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br disse: Bom dia Gunther. Sim tenho o xorg.conf. experimente iniciar sem usar este arquivo de configuração # mv /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf-velho Mas o que tem haver a placa de rede com o assunto Nada ;=) Era placa de vídeo... Abs., [...] -- ...agora, só nos sobrou o futuro..., visto em www.manuchao.net Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327155618.3cff1...@azul.gbcm
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Acabei de fazer o teste desabilitando o gdm3, inicializando em modo texto e usando o comando startx. Foi só usar o startx e o problema se repetiu. Então... não é o gdm3 e sim o X. Já usei com e sem o xorg.conf, dá na mesma. Parece que ele nem procura esse arquivo. Em 27-03-2011 12:27, tux escreveu: Bom dia Gunther. Sim tenho o xorg.conf. Mas o que tem haver a placa de rede com o assunto Ps. Para ter certeza do momento que o teclado é desligado eu fico ligando e desligando NumLock durante o boot até que ele para de funcionar, que é o momento que entra a interface gráfica. Bom dia, Cleber. Seria muito útil se você dissesse para a lista quais serviços desabilitou e habilitou novamente, assim alguém corajoso poderia se interessar em tentar reproduzir o que aconteceu na sua máquina. Se for realmente um erro do webmin, antes mesmo de consertar o seu problema, é muito mais produtivo descobrir o que aconteceu e submeter para os desenvolvedores do webmin. Você citou o gdm3. Se quiser ter certeza que é ele ou não, insira um exit 0 na segunda linha do /etc/init.d/gdm, ou use o metodo elegante debian, e use o sysv-rc-conf . Se o culpado for somente o gdm, ao entrar em modo texto, o teclado irá funcionar, e um startx não irá desabilitar o teclado. E você ainda tem outros suspeitos: xorg, xfs, x11-common, xrdp, kdm, libc6, badblocks no hd, bagunça no /etc/init.d, no /etc/rc*.d/, no /etc/inittab ... a listagem pode não ser pequena. Uma alternativa é usar o kdm, ou o xdm. Se não se lembra quais serviços você alterou, e portanto não pode dar maiores detalhes para a lista, volte o backup. Se não é um servidor de produção e portanto não tem backup, por não ter muita importância, formate, instale de novo e veja se o erro persiste ao alterar novamente com o webmin. (você fez backup antes de alterar a configuração, não fez? ) Em ultimo caso, instale uma maquina virtual com os mesmos pacotes, e não terá como escapar de escovar bits na configuração de um e de outro. Uma hora vc descobre o problema, que provavelmente mora no /etc. (ah, e sim, eu tb não acho que a sua placa de rede compartilhe o chipset(???), a irq ou o endereçamento de memoria do teclado. Afinal, vc já usou o teclado para navegar pelo grub, então, descarte tbm problema fisico no seu hardware :) ) Abraços Tux -- Cleber Ianes Ger. de Tecnologias Livre Freenet tecnologias - Dracena/SP cleberianes.blogspot.com -- Linux User #507338 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f8f9e.7030...@yahoo.com.br
Re: Teclado ps/2 desliga sozinho
Em 27 de março de 2011 16:27, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br escreveu: Acabei de fazer o teste desabilitando o gdm3, inicializando em modo texto e usando o comando startx. Foi só usar o startx e o problema se repetiu. Então... não é o gdm3 e sim o X. Já usei com e sem o xorg.conf, dá na mesma. Parece que ele nem procura esse arquivo. tem alguma coisa no logs do X? abs., [...] -- cada pessoa deveria viver duas vezes a mesma vida: uma para ensaiar, e outra para atuar! Vittorio Gassman Gunther Furtado Curitiba - Paraná - Brasil gunfurt...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktinpgwq8r8v9ficwkj8jw2p3mj+ut6qmjetf5...@mail.gmail.com
aMSN - webcam, imagem de exibição, envio de arquivos
Olá pessoal Estou com um problema faz tempo e pesquisas que fiz não me ajudaram em nada. Talvez alguém por aqui já tenha conseguido resolver. Tenho conexão speedy da Telefonica e até o momento que eu estava sem Roteador D-Link DI 524 tudo corria perfeitamente. Depois disso não mais consegui: - abrir cam com outros contatos (minha e de outro contato, recebendo ou enviando); - enviar minha imagem de exibição a outros contatos; - enviar arquivos. Consegui abrir ajeitar as portas para o aMule, mas para o aMSN, nada. O engraçado é que pelo Windows, dá certo sem problemas. O que será que deve estar errado? Portas do aMSN diferentes das do Windows Live Messenger ou meu firewall de máquina local diferente do firewall do windows? Já tentei limpar tudo, deixar sem regra alguma, mas não resolveu. Estou ficando sem cabelo e os que restam estão ficando brancos. Ainda uso Lenny. Na linha telefônica tenho um modem ADSL Speed Touch em bridge, o qual se conecta através de configuração no Roteador D-Link Di 524. Alguém tem alguma luz? Obrigado. Anderson -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103272138.03875.argre...@uol.com.br
arquivos p2i
PEssoal, alguem sabe que prog poderia usar no linux para abrir imagens de dvd criadas no cyberlink power2go for windows? a extensao padrao desses arquivos eh .p2i vlw -- Denis Anjos, www.versatushpc.com.br
Re: aMSN - webcam, imagem de exibição, envio de arquivos
Olá pessoal Estou com um problema faz tempo e pesquisas que fiz não me ajudaram em nada. Talvez alguém por aqui já tenha conseguido resolver. Tenho conexão speedy da Telefonica e até o momento que eu estava sem Roteador D-Link DI 524 tudo corria perfeitamente. Depois disso não mais consegui: - abrir cam com outros contatos (minha e de outro contato, recebendo ou enviando); - enviar minha imagem de exibição a outros contatos; - enviar arquivos. Consegui abrir ajeitar as portas para o aMule, mas para o aMSN, nada. O engraçado é que pelo Windows, dá certo sem problemas. O que será que deve estar errado? Portas do aMSN diferentes das do Windows Live Messenger ou meu firewall de máquina local diferente do firewall do windows? Já tentei limpar tudo, deixar sem regra alguma, mas não resolveu. Estou ficando sem cabelo e os que restam estão ficando brancos. Ainda uso Lenny. Na linha telefônica tenho um modem ADSL Speed Touch em bridge, o qual se conecta através de configuração no Roteador D-Link Di 524. Alguém tem alguma luz? Obrigado. Anderson Olá. Tive um problema destes a alguns bons meses atrás, quando fiz a mesma coisa que você: resolvi instalar uma rede wifi em casa, com 3 pontos sem restrições de acesso. Experimente instalar alguma coisa *pnp* na sua máquina. Algo como (mas não tão somente): libgupnp gupnp-tools linux-igd Provavelmente irá funcionar, não somente para o amsn, mas ṕara os p2p da vida que suportem upnp. (Nada de sofrimento configurando portas em roteadores ok? somente habilite upnp no seu roteador) Nos avise dos resultados. Abraços Tux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103280015.15804.tux_lit...@yahoo.com
Re: arquivos p2i
PEssoal, alguem sabe que prog poderia usar no linux para abrir imagens de dvd criadas no cyberlink power2go for windows? a extensao padrao desses arquivos eh .p2i vlw Olá! Nos ajude a te ajudar. Se você abrir um shell no linux, e rodar o comando file algumarquivoseu.p2i (sem aspas), o que é retornado ? (percebeu que a extensão do arquivo não vale quase nada no linux, ne? rs) E defina abrir : 1 - ver o que tem dentro ? 2 - gravar em uma mídia ? qual dos dois ? Abraços Tux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103280031.09526.tux_lit...@yahoo.com
Re: debian 6 - latest release - internet connection
On 03/26/2011 08:34 PM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: Johan Scheepers, 20.03.2011: After installing debian 6 it was found that it prefers built in wireless connection on my dsl. The wire connection was inserted and available. The wireless connection works ok at 55% but I would prefer wired connection. Fedora, centos, mandriva prefers wired connection on installation. Could there be a reason for debian's behaviour. When you say inserted and available do you mean just plugged in, or actually working in Debian? Could it be that the wired ethernet card was not recognized and/or no driver was loaded? Does the wired interface work if you turn off the wireless manually? Good day, Was installing debian 6. Went through the fases answer the questions. It whent on and installed about 1200 files without asking the wireless password. Now I think it must have used the wired connection. When I rebooted (first reboot after install) it was found that the wireless connection was used. It will not auto configure eth0. I can not manually configure eth0. I can not answer required questions. Point of interest. Fedora 14 and Mandriva 2010.2 was able to configure and use (1) Wired (2) Wireless and (3) Mobile broad on the same machine. They are all installed on separate external USB drives on same machine.. Just switch cables to boot other distro. When debian 5.06 was used it connected to the wired connection. Did not upgrade (never upgrade) do fresh install always. Something must have changed. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8ef00a.4080...@telkomsa.net
Re: New debian-installation - question
On 03/26/2011 05:04 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: Hi list, just some simple questions: I am going to create a small installations cd from an already installed system (with my own settings). As I want it small and secure, I do not want any logfiles on this cd. I am using bootcdwrite. So my questions: 1.Can I use an empty /var/log/ or is it necessary, that some logfiles already exist? 2. Same question to /var/run, /var/cache and /var/spool/: Can they be empty at first boot? 3. Last question (maybe stupid): Can /var be empty at all or are there any directories, which MUST exist at very first boot? I am looking forward to your answers. Best regards Hans I would suggest you to use a ready livecd such as GRML for example . It is also Debian based and you can tweak it as you want - it is very flexible . It uses squashfs ( at least 3 years ago) which gives you good compression . Best reagrds , Alex -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f238a.9000...@biotec.tu-dresden.de
2 sample questions
1.how can i install firefox in debian 6? 2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is first,and debian is secon?
Re: recover partition table
Hello, Stephen Powell wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 13:42:15 -0400 (EDT), Geronimo wrote: I don't want to offend you, but all that you wrote I already found from google and friends. ... But I can make some educated guesses. For example, here's an excerpt from my /var/log/installer/partman file: ... The first number after OUT is probably the partition number. As in my partman log there where millions of OUT - lines, I focussed to the lines that look quit similar to fdisk output, like: == snip === Model: ATA INTEL SSDSA2M040 Path: /dev/sdd Sector size: 512 Sectors: 78165360 Sectors/track: 63 Heads: 255 Cylinders: 4865 Partition table: yes Type: msdos Partitions: # id length typefs pathname (0,0,0) (0,0,62)-1 0-32255 32256 primary label /dev/sdd-1 (0,1,0) (2611,254,62) 1 32256-21484431359 21484399104 primary ext4 /dev/sdd1 (2612,0,0) (2612,27,38)-1 21484431360-21485322239 890880 pri/log free/dev/sdd-1 (2612,27,39)(2660,173,8)2 21485322240-21884829695 399507456 primary ext3/dev/sdd2 (2660,173,9)(4865,122,56) 3 21884829696-40019951615 18135121920 primary ext4/dev/sdd3 (4865,122,57) (4865,144,62) -1 40019951616-40020664319 712704 pri/log free/dev/sdd-1 == snap === ... and these lines confused me, as wiki said, that biggest value from chs is 1023 - and for me the values in round brakets looked like chs values. As I'm no hero in juggling hex numbers by mind, I wrote a little helper, that dumped the mbr infos. Trying then your advice with parted -I I got values similar to the output of my dumper, but not matching the values from partman, so I came to the same conclusion as you - where I had to look at the man pages of parted to find a smaller unit than sectors. So I added little math to my dumping tool and finally the values matched. From manual I already read about the rescue option and as you recommended the same, I gave it a try. ... but I got an error, about missing or wrong label. - Huh? Did not used any label yet. So I added writing capabilities to my dumper and created a mbr, where I thought, should match. Then I wrote it to the drives mbr using dd and rebooted ... Voila - drive is recognized and all works well. Thank you very much for your patience and assistance. kind regards Gero P.S. on writing my dumper and checking all drives against partman log, may be I found a little bug from partman (don't know, whether it has any relevance): According to wiki, head and cylinder are 0-based, whereas sector is 1- based. So I think, a value of (0, 1, 0) as above is invalid and should not occure. I happen to notice 0-based sectors on every drive. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103271453.52148.geronimo...@arcor.de
Re: 2 sample questions
Am 27.03.2011 14:50, schrieb hamed hosseini: 1.how can i install firefox in debian 6? 2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is first,and debian is secon? 1. apt-get install iceweasel In Debian Firefox is rename to Iceweasel. 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f34bd.6010...@gmx.net
Re: 2 sample questions
thank you,can you explain more about question 2 about GRUB,i don't understand On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Estelmann, Christian c.estelm...@gmx.netwrote: Am 27.03.2011 14:50, schrieb hamed hosseini: 1.how can i install firefox in debian 6? 2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is first,and debian is secon? 1. apt-get install iceweasel In Debian Firefox is rename to Iceweasel. 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f34bd.6010...@gmx.net
Re: 2 sample questions
Become root (for example by using the command su), then run mv /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober /etc/grub.d/09_os-prober and update-grub2. Or run both commands with sudo (sudo mv... and sudo update-grub2). When executing update-grub2 all scripts in /etc/grub.d/ are executed, in order of their names. os-prober looks for other OS (like Win). linux is adding your available kernels to the list. Am 27.03.2011 15:02, schrieb hamed hosseini: thank you,can you explain more about question 2 about GRUB,i don't understand On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 5:29 PM, Estelmann, Christian c.estelm...@gmx.net mailto:c.estelm...@gmx.net wrote: Am 27.03.2011 14 tel:27.03.2011%2014:50, schrieb hamed hosseini: 2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is first,and debian is secon? 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux
APT gone nuts
I just re-installed debian from scratch, and ran a few installs via apt-get. All of a sudden, apt splurts this out Reading package lists... Building dependency tree... Reading state information... ssmtp is already the newest version. The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer required: mesa-utils python-bugbuddy xdg-user-dirs-gtk libpcsclite1 usb-modeswitch geoclue gtk2-engines-smooth dnsmasq-base tomboy python-evolution ekiga libmono-security2.0-cil update-notifier-common libgnome-bluetooth7 libndesk-dbus1.0-cil libmtp8 libmono-addins-gui0.2-cil gcalctool libopal3.6.8 gnome-backgrounds telepathy-gabble gnome-search-tool libmono-system2.0-cil tcptraceroute update-notifier baobab libfreerdp-plugins-standard python-mako hamster-applet network-manager-gnome libsrtp0 gnome-system-log gucharmap libdiscid0 geoclue-localnet gnome-games obexd-client cheese gdebi libgpod-common obex-data-server libgnomepanel2.24-cil libmono-corlib2.0-cil cli-common rhythmbox libnm-util1 libtelepathy-farsight0 libmono-cairo2.0-cil libgexiv2-0 empathy-common libcheese-gtk18 geoclue-yahoo libndesk-dbus-glib1.0-cil libgstfarsight0.10-0 usb-modeswitch-data gnome-themes-extras mobile-broadband-provider-info evolution-exchange libpcap0.8 transmission-gtk libmono-i18n-west2.0-cil libapr1 guile-1.8-libs update-manager-gnome seahorse empathy libchamplain-0.4-0 xdg-user-dirs gdebi-core gvfs-bin software-center libmono-posix2.0-cil libaprutil1-ldap mono-runtime telepathy-salut libgpod4 bluez libmono-addins0.2-cil libgeoclue0 libgnome2.24-cil libmysqlclient16 gnome-cards-data gnuchess-book gnome-nettool transmission-common gnome-codec-install gnome-screenshot shotwell update-manager-core gnome-games-extra-data python-webkit gconf-editor libcryptui0 simple-scan python-aptdaemon libclutter-gtk-0.10-0 libgee2 network-manager gnome-system-tools epiphany-extensions binfmt-support libnm-glib-vpn1 python-gtkglext1 libgnome-vfs2.0-cil libaprutil1-dbd-sqlite3 libtelepathy-glib0 mono-gac python-vte libnm-glib2 gnome-bluetooth gnome-user-share modemmanager gconf-defaults-service libglade2.0-cil apache2.2-bin seahorse-plugins libopenobex1 libspeexdsp1 cheese-common sound-juicer libart2.0-cil vino aptdaemon libglib2.0-cil mono-2.0-gac libgconf2.0-cil python-aptdaemon-gtk ppp tcl libapache2-mod-dnssd libmono-sharpzip2.84-cil wpasupplicant nautilus-sendto gedit-plugins libcap-ng0 liferea libpt2.6.7 remmina-plugin-rdp gnome-themes-more libnl1 media-player-info libpq5 python-markupsafe libchamplain-gtk-0.4-0 remmina-plugin-vnc gnome-games-data geoclue-manual libmusicbrainz3-6 liferea-data geoclue-hostip gnome-office gnuchess libfreerdp0 libgtk2.0-cil libssh-4 rhythmbox-plugin-cdrecorder rhythmbox-plugins libaprutil1 libgmime2.4-cil remmina-plugin-data mysql-common libnet1 freeglut3 nautilus-sendto-empathy telepathy-mission-control-5 remmina python-opengl Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them. Most of them, even with my limited linux knowledge are fairly important. Why has apt started to ask to remove these packages, and how can I get apt to forget about them? Thanks for any help. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=a6f3xqg7clxv6trm7_d_mcihcsj7sshivb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 2 sample questions
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote: 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A default Debian installation doesn't have it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327135437.GL7935@desktop
Re: 2 sample questions
brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote: 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A default Debian installation doesn't have it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327135437.GL7935@desktop
pnpdump, isapnp, and isapnp.conf
With new MB, I can no longer access my older, analog phone line modem. The isapnp startup had an older isapnp.conf file. I assume one uses pnpdump to make a new one with the correct ISAPNP port. I found an address 0213 in the /proc/ioports and I seem to get a sensible conf file using this. However, when running isapnp startup, it kicks at that port, cannot execute the READPORT 0x0213, no further action. (I had the same error on the old file that had 273 instead.) 1. Should I even need this? 2. Am I missing something here? 3. lshal shows the card on the appropriate /dev/ttyS2 with its interupt 12. 4. I was not successful with a newer PCI modem either. The MB is a huge and costly one with a pentium-4 dual core 3ghz with pc- express Nvidia graphics interface, PCI slots and two legacy ISA. Rare bird nowadays. Everything else Debian seems to run no problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103271603.06871.d_ba...@012.net.il
Re: 2 sample questions
Install it with 'apt-get install os-prober'. I only have installed Debian on my subnotebook, so I can not try it... But if you are having a file with something like windows as name in /etc/grub.d/ just rename ist to something like 09_windows, like I have written before about the os-prober. Am 27.03.2011 16:18, schrieb hamed hosseini: brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk mailto:a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote: 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A default Debian installation doesn't have it.
Re: 2 sample questions
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 17:20:53 +0430, hamed hosseini wrote:
2.how can i edit GRUB BOOT,(i have 2 os,win 7 and debian),i want win7 is
first,and debian is secon?
1. Open the file /boot/grub/grub.cfg. The command
less /boot/grub/grub.cfg
in a terminal would do it.
2. Find lines which begin with the word menuentry and look for one
which is do with Windows. e.g. Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
3. Copy that. Just the bit between menuentry and the {.
4. Open the file /etc/default/grub in an editor. The command
nano /etc/default/grub
would do it.
5. Replace the line
GRUB_DEFAULT=0
with
GRUB_DEFAULT=what_you_copied_from_grub.cfg
e.g GRUB_DEFAULT=Windows 7 (loader) (on /dev/sda1)
6. Execute the command update-grub.
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Re: 2 sample questions
thanks On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:01 PM, Estelmann, Christian c.estelm...@gmx.netwrote: Install it with 'apt-get install os-prober'. I only have installed Debian on my subnotebook, so I can not try it... But if you are having a file with something like windows as name in /etc/grub.d/ just rename ist to something like 09_windows, like I have written before about the os-prober. Am 27.03.2011 16:18, schrieb hamed hosseini: brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 6:24 PM, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 14:59:41 +0200, Estelmann, Christian wrote: 2. Rename /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober to 09_os-prober. Then run update-grub2. os-prober looks for other OS, just let it executed befor 10_linux This will only work if the os-prober package has been installed. A default Debian installation doesn't have it.
Squeeze, GPT, GRUB2 and Software RAID1
Hello everybody. I have 2 disk Western Digital WD2002FAEX - 2TB and I want to install Squeeze with software RAID 1 and GPT instead of old MSDOS partition map. I want to use GRUB2 as boot loader, but I read that is needed to be created a BIOS Boot Partition.[1] I have 2 disk and I want when one of them fail to be possible to boot from another. My question is - Will installer, GRUB2 and Squeeze handle synchronization of BIOS Boot Partition on both disks or I have to do it manually and eventually how to do it manually ? [1] - http://grub.enbug.org/BIOS_Boot_Partition Regards Georgi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f4b4c.4030...@oles.biz
Re: APT gone nuts
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 12:37:51 +0100, Michael Thompson wrote: Most of them, even with my limited linux knowledge are fairly important. Why has apt started to ask to remove these packages, and how can I get apt to forget about them? Have you removed the gnome metapackage? Reinstall it. Otherwise I have a feeling you have to mark all those packages as manually installed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327143556.GN7935@desktop
Re: 2 sample questions
On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 18:48:33 +0430, hamed hosseini wrote: brian how can do thar ,without os-prober package,or how can install os-prober,i need easy way,i am new in debian Have you got a file named 30_otheros in /etc/grub.d? Move that to 09_otheros and you will not need os-prober. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327144421.GO7935@desktop
adzapper help needed
I've used adzapper long ago, but stopped using it long ago, and forgotten why I stopped. Now I want to use it again on a computer running Wheezy, but I can't find information on how to configure my browser. The Debian documentation seems to have been simplified with some info left out. But maybe my memory fails me ... My recollection is that in addition to configuring adzapper, one must also configure ones browser to use it. I think I need to know the IP address and port number that is providing the adzapper service. Of course I know the IP address. But what is the default port number used by adzapper. Googling gives the answer 8080 but that doesn't work, and I recall that the old instructions had some information on how to change from the default to this value. But I can't find any information about port number, neither what is the default, nor how to change it. Where is this now? -- in either Wheezy or Squeeze? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327151443.gd4...@big.lan.gnu
Re: adzapper help needed
i am new,what is adzapper? On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.netwrote: I've used adzapper long ago, but stopped using it long ago, and forgotten why I stopped. Now I want to use it again on a computer running Wheezy, but I can't find information on how to configure my browser. The Debian documentation seems to have been simplified with some info left out. But maybe my memory fails me ... My recollection is that in addition to configuring adzapper, one must also configure ones browser to use it. I think I need to know the IP address and port number that is providing the adzapper service. Of course I know the IP address. But what is the default port number used by adzapper. Googling gives the answer 8080 but that doesn't work, and I recall that the old instructions had some information on how to change from the default to this value. But I can't find any information about port number, neither what is the default, nor how to change it. Where is this now? -- in either Wheezy or Squeeze? TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327151443.gd4...@big.lan.gnu
need help with adzapper
I'm running Squeeze. I've used adzapper in the long ago past, but I can't get in running with iceweasel now. My problem is really with iceweasel, I think. I recall that I have to configure my browser to 'point to' adzapper. This involves giving the IP address AND the port # for adzapper. I know the IP address, but I can't find any mention of the port number in the doc.s and don't know how to discover the correct value. Also I think I should be able to configure a port number of my own chosing, but I can't find any config file documentation that describes how (or even the file name to use). TIA -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327153735.ga2...@big.lan.gnu
Re: boot loader
On Sb, 26 mar 11, 14:30:13, shawn wilson wrote: You can fix it with ms-sys[1] from System Rescue CD[2] [1] http://ms-sys.sourceforge.net/ i'll have to try this. the sourceforge page says that it works on fat32. however, freshmeat has a changelog that seems to indicate it works on vista/7 which (i hope) also means it works with xp (or any other ntfs based system). Worked for me on Windows XP. [2] http://www.sysresccd.org/ heh, still haven't gone to the store to get media (which is why i haven't tried anything else yet). i'm sorta hoping that #1 will make it so that i don't have to go to the store :) You can put it on a USB stick. Just loop-mount the iso somewhere (but not on /mnt) and run the script in the root directory. HTH, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Upgrade to Squeeze and KDE
Hi, all! On Saturday, 19 March 2011 18:32:56 -0400, John A. Sullivan III wrote: After updating my hosts in my house to the new stable, Debian Squeeze, I'm thinking of upgrading my desktop to Squeeze. With my hosts with Lenny in general, except for some things, everything was working after upgrading to Squeeze, but I worry that something is broken in the upgrade from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.4, as this PC is used to study and work and I wish the minimal downtime. I wonder what experiences you had to update KDE and its applications to new versions of Squeeze and the considerations to keep in mind throughout this process. snip We decided that, for our specific purposes, KDE4 was not quite ready. Thus, we migrated to Squeeze plus Trinity as the maintained and actively developed successor to KDE3 - http://trinity.pearsoncomputing.net We have been quite pleased - John Thank you all for your comments. These days I have not had enough time to sit quiet for upgrading, but when I do it, I will tell you the results. Regards, Daniel -- Fingerprint: BFB3 08D6 B4D1 31B2 72B9 29CE 6696 BF1B 14E6 1D37 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Lenny - Linux user #188.598 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Serial Connection
- Original Message - From: Stephen Powell To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 3/26/2011 10:52:23 PM Subject: Serial Connection On Mon, 21 Mar 2011 at 17:45:17 +0100, MAROUNI Abbass wrote: I have two servers with Debian Lenny installed. The two servers have a serial cable connected form Stty0 on Server0 to Stty1 on Server1. I can use minicom to log into Server0, but when I try to login to Server1 from Server0 using minicom I get some garbage and I can't type anything with the keyboard. Any Ideas?? I haven't tried this, but one thing you want to make sure of is that you use a cross-over cable. The serial ports on PCs have what's known as a DTE interface (Data Terminal Equipment). The serial ports on modems have what's known as a DCE interface (Data Communications Equipment). A standard serial cable is designed to connect a DTE interface to a DCE interface (i.e. a computer to a modem). What you are trying to do is connect two DTE interfaces together. For that you need to use a special serial cable called a cross-over cable which is specifically designed to connect a DTE interface to another DTE interface. If you try to use a regular serial cable, one designed to connect a DTE interface to a DCE interface, it won't work. An alternative to using a cross-over cable is to use a device called a null modem on one end of your serial cable. A null modem attached to a standard serial cable effectively converts it into a cross-over cable. Connecting a serial printer to a computer also requires a cross-over cable or a standard cable plus a null modem, since both devices have a DTE interface. You also might have to use two cables and two serial ports. One serial port looks like a modem, with you as the terminal. minicom allocates it. The other serial port looks like a serial console, with you as the host. getty allocates it. The other server sees a similar pattern. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- There's usually more than crossing Transmit Data and Receive Data. There are at least two control signals that are applicable. Usually one borrows what is known as a break-out box to determine which signals each side of the interface are active. There are lots of good googles for RS-232 that will help. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: 1489274790.1739751.1301179943578.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.comhttp://lists.debian.org/1489274790.1739751.1301179943578.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
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how can i update gnome to KDE in debian 6?
Re: need help with adzapper
On 20110327_093735, Paul E Condon wrote: I'm running Squeeze. I've used adzapper in the long ago past, but I can't get in running with iceweasel now. My problem is really with iceweasel, I think. I recall that I have to configure my browser to 'point to' adzapper. This involves giving the IP address AND the port # for adzapper. I know the IP address, but I can't find any mention of the port number in the doc.s and don't know how to discover the correct value. Also I think I should be able to configure a port number of my own chosing, but I can't find any config file documentation that describes how (or even the file name to use). TIA Sorry about duplicate posts, but I am also having problems with my config of exim4 connection to my ISP smarthost. It has been working for many months, but something about how I transitioned to Squeeze/Wheezy bollixed it up. But seeing these two emails on the list gives me hope that I have whacked that mole. Unfortunately, I think there may be half a dozen more emails lurking wherever misconfigured exim4 sent them. Please be patient. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327155143.gb2...@big.lan.gnu
Cannot update wheezy
For over a week now I've been unable to upgrade wheezy. I do aptitude update as root, which is fine, then also as root do aptitude safe- upgrade. When I do that, it says resolving dependencies and the open and closed statistics start going up. Right now open is at about 34000 and closed is at 29000. Defer is at 329 and conflict is at 62. It just sits there with open and closed ticking steadily up, and never seems to finish. This doesn't feel right to me. I am not sure what else to post in the way of info as aptitude doesn't even get to the stage of producing interesting output before going into this endless-looking process if ostensibly resolving dependencies. Could my system's notion of package relationships have got messed up somehow, and if so how can I clean it up? Any help appreciated. Machine is self-built intel core i7 920 with 8Gb of Ram and an nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ based graphics card. It's about 2 years old. I originally installed squeeze which had recently gone into Testing at the time, and upgraded using aptitude full-upgrade to wheezy shortly after squeeze became stable. Since upgrading, for a few weeks, everything was fine until about a week ago when I noticed I couldn't update as described above. I left it for a week thinking it was a package dependency prob that would fix itself eventually, but it doesn't seem to be doing so. Any help appreciated. Mark
Re: adzapper help needed
On 20110327_194800, hamed hosseini wrote: i am new,what is adzapper? [snip...] Adzapper is a filter that removes advertisements from the pages that you browse on the internet. I remember that I liked it because it could be used with any and all web browsers and I am always searching and hoping for a better browser. In this current situation, I want to use it with Google Chromium ... will it really get rid of the ads??? Adzapper is packaged in Debian repository. But I am having some difficulty with the currently available documentation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327162524.gc2...@big.lan.gnu
Autodetect proxy not working in Iceweasel
Hi all! I just installed Squid on a host of my house with Debian Squeeze. Then I added in my DHCP server the following configuration options: option wpad code 252 = text; option wpad http://wpad.freesoftware/proxy.pac\n;; I also created a hard link to the file proxy.pac. The name of the hard link is wpad.dat. wpad.freesoftware has an entry in my DNS server and both files are accessible from the local network. I was testing from Debian Lenny using Konqueror 3.5.9 and in Settings - Configure Konqueror - Proxy category, I selected the option to automatically detect proxy settings. After that, according to the Squid logs, Konqueror passes through the proxy. In Iceweasel 3.0.6 I tried to do the same by going to Edit - Preference - Advanced - Network - Settings - Auto-Detect proxy settings for this network, but It doesn't work. In fact, I'm not seeing in the Apache logs any GET to wpad.dat or proxy.pac files from Iceweasel. I'll be missing some other configuration to the DHCP server or Apache VH to serve this files to Iceweasel? Thanks in advance for your replies. Regards, Daniel -- Fingerprint: BFB3 08D6 B4D1 31B2 72B9 29CE 6696 BF1B 14E6 1D37 Powered by Debian GNU/Linux Lenny - Linux user #188.598 signature.asc Description: Digital signature
iinstallation of Debian 6
-- Forwarded message -- From: anderson raymond anderson_raym...@yahoo.com.hk Date: 2011/3/26 Subject: installation of Debian 6 To: darkestk...@gmail.com Dear Sir/Madam When I installed Debian 6 using the win32 loader, everything seems all right, then the system reboot, but stop at the following phrase. waiting for /dev to to fully populated. Would you please give me some advice what is going on? Regards, Raymond Hung from Hong Kong -- End of message -- I'm sure it was meant to the debian-user list, and not to me. As I'm not sure what exactly is going on I'm forwarding. My _guess_ is it is problem with drivers or hardware. Some additional information about your system configuration would be helpful. darkestkhan -- jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=C4z00D2JqYg56YRPLSn1wMJV-7Rg-=t1mw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: update KDE
2011/3/27 hamed hosseini hoss...@gmail.com: how can i update gnome to KDE in debian 6? I wouldn't call it update but I'm guessing that you want to install KDE this one should work: apt-get install kde darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikrrso5whaygupk50b9c9z_akvvfmbz_ephz...@mail.gmail.com
Re: update KDE
27/03/2011 19:21, darkestkhan wrote: 2011/3/27 hamed hosseini hoss...@gmail.com: how can i update gnome to KDE in debian 6? I wouldn't call it update but I'm guessing that you want to install KDE this one should work: apt-get install kde darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. kde-plasma-desktop is good for a minimal experience,kde, kde-standard or kde-full for a more complete experience. You can keep kde and gnome at the same time, just choose the desktop environment at login time. You need only one login manager, either gdm (gnome) or kdm (kde). Have fun -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f7625.3020...@googlemail.com
Re: APT gone nuts
On 03/27/2011 09:35 AM, Brian wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 12:37:51 +0100, Michael Thompson wrote: Most of them, even with my limited linux knowledge are fairly important. Why has apt started to ask to remove these packages, and how can I get apt to forget about them? Have you removed the gnome metapackage? Reinstall it. Otherwise I have a feeling you have to mark all those packages as manually installed. Right. apt is just saying I don't need them. You can delete them *if you want to*. -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f763a.7090...@cox.net
Re: Cannot update wheezy
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:43:11 -0400 (EDT), Mark Fletcher wrote: For over a week now I've been unable to upgrade wheezy. I do aptitude update as root, which is fine, then also as root do aptitude safe- upgrade. When I do that, it says resolving dependencies and the open and closed statistics start going up. Right now open is at about 34000 and closed is at 29000. Defer is at 329 and conflict is at 62. It just sits there with open and closed ticking steadily up, and never seems to finish. This doesn't feel right to me. I am not sure what else to post in the way of info as aptitude doesn't even get to the stage of producing interesting output before going into this endless-looking process if ostensibly resolving dependencies. Could my system's notion of package relationships have got messed up somehow, and if so how can I clean it up? Any help appreciated. Machine is self-built intel core i7 920 with 8Gb of Ram and an nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ based graphics card. It's about 2 years old. I originally installed squeeze which had recently gone into Testing at the time, and upgraded using aptitude full-upgrade to wheezy shortly after squeeze became stable. Since upgrading, for a few weeks, everything was fine until about a week ago when I noticed I couldn't update as described above. I left it for a week thinking it was a package dependency prob that would fix itself eventually, but it doesn't seem to be doing so. Any help appreciated. Mark, I had the same problem about a week ago. The solution is to do a full-upgrade instead of a safe-upgrade. The problem is caused by libre-office packages taking the place of open-office packages. full-upgrade allows packages to be deleted, safe-upgrade does not. With full-upgrade the dependencies can be resolved by giving permission to delete a couple of open office packages that are functionally replaced by a couple of libre office packages, IIRC. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/106426833.1750138.1301249543138.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cannot update wheezy
On 03/27/2011 11:43 AM, Ｍark Fletcher wrote: For over a week now I've been unable to upgrade wheezy. I do aptitude update as root, which is fine, then also as root do aptitude safe-upgrade. When I do that, it says resolving dependencies and the open and closed statistics start going up. Right now open is at about 34000 and closed is at 29000. Defer is at 329 and conflict is at 62. It just sits there with open and closed ticking steadily up, and never seems to finish. This doesn't feel right to me. I am not sure what else to post in the way of info as aptitude doesn't even get to the stage of producing interesting output before going into this endless-looking process if ostensibly resolving dependencies. Could my system's notion of package relationships have got messed up somehow, and if so how can I clean it up? Any help appreciated. Machine is self-built intel core i7 920 with 8Gb of Ram and an nVidia GeForce 9800 GTX+ based graphics card. It's about 2 years old. I originally installed squeeze which had recently gone into Testing at the time, and upgraded using aptitude full-upgrade to wheezy shortly after squeeze became stable. Since upgrading, for a few weeks, everything was fine until about a week ago when I noticed I couldn't update as described above. I left it for a week thinking it was a package dependency prob that would fix itself eventually, but it doesn't seem to be doing so. Any help appreciated. Mark Mark Give 'aptitude -f install' a try. Thats how I got it going, finally. Now the updates/upgrades work as usual. HTH WT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f8364.5020...@gmail.com
Re: Serial Connection
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:40:40 -0400 (EDT), ow...@netptc.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:52:23 -0400 (EDT, Stephen Powell wrote: I haven't tried this, but one thing you want to make sure of is that you use a cross-over cable. The serial ports on PCs have what's known as a DTE interface (Data Terminal Equipment). The serial ports on modems have what's known as a DCE interface (Data Communications Equipment). A standard serial cable is designed to connect a DTE interface to a DCE interface (i.e. a computer to a modem). What you are trying to do is connect two DTE interfaces together. For that you need to use a special serial cable called a cross-over cable which is specifically designed to connect a DTE interface to another DTE interface. If you try to use a regular serial cable, one designed to connect a DTE interface to a DCE interface, it won't work. An alternative to using a cross-over cable is to use a device called a null modem on one end of your serial cable. A null modem attached to a standard serial cable effectively converts it into a cross-over cable. Connecting a serial printer to a computer also requires a cross-over cable or a standard cable plus a null modem, since both devices have a DTE interface. You also might have to use two cables and two serial ports. One serial port looks like a modem, with you as the terminal. minicom allocates it. The other serial port looks like a serial console, with you as the host. getty allocates it. The other server sees a similar pattern. There's usually more than crossing Transmit Data and Receive Data. There are at least two control signals that are applicable. Usually one borrows what is known as a break-out box to determine which signals each side of the interface are active. There are lots of good googles for RS-232 that will help. That's true. But a properly-wired cross-over cable or null modem not only crosses over TD and RD but also crosses over DTR and DSR and also crosses over RTS and CTS. Ground, of course, is wired to Ground. CD is normally tied to DSR on the same side of the interface (on both sides). RI is usually left unconnected. See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D9_Null_Modem_Wiring.png -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/835019430.1751010.1301251297388.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Inkscape error
Hi, I try to load inkscape, but I got this error: marcella@inael:~$ inkscape inkscape: error while loading shared libraries: libwpg-0.1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory marcella@inael:~$ I have googled, but not found any help. Could you help me? Tank you very much Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTim6A1UqJQYamL9myG=2e67enaxmxxcup-hqa...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Inkscape error
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, I try to load inkscape, but I got this error: marcella@inael:~$ inkscape inkscape: error while loading shared libraries: libwpg-0.1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory marcella@inael:~$ I have googled, but not found any help. Could you help me? Tank you very much Marcelo rebuild/reinstall the missing library and then try inkscape again root@debian:~# aptitude search libwpg p libwpg-0.2- - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-dev - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-doc - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-tool - Tools from libwpg for root@debian:~# At a minimum you should need libwpg-0.2 and libwpg-dev, although -tool and -doc can't hurt if you have the space to spare. -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
Re: Inkscape error
2011/3/27 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.com wrote: rebuild/reinstall the missing library and then try inkscape again root@debian:~# aptitude search libwpg p libwpg-0.2- - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-dev - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-doc - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-tool - Tools from libwpg for root@debian:~# At a minimum you should need libwpg-0.2 and libwpg-dev, although -tool and -doc can't hurt if you have the space to spare. Hi Chris, I already have this ones installed! inael:/home/inael# aptitude search libwpg c libwpg-0.1-1- WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar i A libwpg-0.2-2- WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar i libwpg-dev - WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar p libwpg-doc - WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar i libwpg-tools- Tools from libwpg for converting WP Graphi inael:/home/inael# Any other help? Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTik-r9x8xvZ7S7Li=tl4xxmsozmxplo6+azpf...@mail.gmail.com
System unbootable
Hi, I followed instructions at http://dendiz.com/blog/?p=138 on my MacBook Pro 7,1 running Debian Squeeze. Installing ndiswrapper seemed to do something to my kernal... after a reboot my system goes through GRUB but then comes up with: Setting parameters of disk: none Setting preliminary keycap: done Activating swap… done Checking root file system… fsck from util-linux-ng 2.16.2 /dev/sda3: clean, 154353/11739136 files, 6058946/46948242 blocks done. Cleaning up ifupdown… Setting up networking…. Loading kernal modules… [16.584261] firewire_sbp2: fw1.0: orb reply timed out, rcode=0x11 [16.593534] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [16.593587] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [16.598551] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [16.598601] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [21.381619] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed [21.381649] sd 2:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through [77.311460] BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 61s! [modprobe:1117] udev[464]: worker [1156] unexpectedly returned with status 0x0100 udevd[464]: worker[1156] failed while handling '/devices/pci:00/:00:1c.2/:04:00.0/fw1/fw1.0/host2/target2:0:0:0/2:0:0:0/block/sdb' I don't know what has happened to my system and whether it can be recovered or not... and can I access any system logs for further information? Steffan
Re: Inkscape error
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/27 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 2:55 PM, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.com wrote: rebuild/reinstall the missing library and then try inkscape again root@debian:~# aptitude search libwpg p libwpg-0.2- - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-dev - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-doc - WordPerfect graphics p libwpg-tool - Tools from libwpg for root@debian:~# At a minimum you should need libwpg-0.2 and libwpg-dev, although -tool and -doc can't hurt if you have the space to spare. Hi Chris, I already have this ones installed! inael:/home/inael# aptitude search libwpg c libwpg-0.1-1- WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar i A libwpg-0.2-2- WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar i libwpg-dev - WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar p libwpg-doc - WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar i libwpg-tools- Tools from libwpg for converting WP Graphi inael:/home/inael# Any other help? Marcelo Given the fact of the original error, marcella@inael:~$ inkscape inkscape: error while loading shared libraries: libwpg-0.1.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory marcella@inael:~$ I would install -0.1-1 -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
Re: Inkscape error
On 03/27/2011 02:08 PM, Marcelo Laia wrote: [snip] inael:/home/inael# aptitude search libwpg c libwpg-0.1-1- WordPerfect graphics import/convert librar But you don't appear to have libwpg-0.1 installed (correctly). -- Neither the wisest constitution nor the wisest laws will secure the liberty and happiness of a people whose manners are universally corrupt. Samuel Adams, essay in The Public Advertiser, 1749 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f8ffc.60...@cox.net
Re: Inkscape error
2011/3/27 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: I would install -0.1-1 There are some thing wrong here! -0.1-1 version of libwpg isn't in testing repositories. So, how inkscape in testing flavor needs this version? But, I downloaded libwpg-0.1-1 from stable and instal it manually. Now, inkscape tell me other shared lib that is on stable repositories too! inael@inael:~/Downloads$ inkscape inkscape: error while loading shared libraries: libwpd-0.8.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory inael@inael:~/Downloads$ inael:/home/inael# aptitude search libwpd i A libwpd-0.9-9- Library for handling WordPerfect documents i libwpd-dev - Library for handling WordPerfect documents p libwpd-doc - Library for handling WordPerfect documents p libwpd-tools- Tools from libwpd for converting WordPerfe c libwpd8c2a - Library for handling WordPerfect documents inael:/home/inael# inkscape in testing have dependencies that are only in stable repositories! Thank you very much! Marcelo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=w5hv_r+N+LQim9Jy6MV2RtONtd-iLvGg=x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Inkscape error
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 3:29 PM, Marcelo Laia marcelol...@gmail.com wrote: 2011/3/27 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: I would install -0.1-1 There are some thing wrong here! -0.1-1 version of libwpg isn't in testing repositories. So, how inkscape in testing flavor needs this version? But, I downloaded libwpg-0.1-1 from stable and instal it manually. Now, inkscape tell me other shared lib that is on stable repositories too! inael@inael:~/Downloads$ inkscape inkscape: error while loading shared libraries: libwpd-0.8.so.8: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory inael@inael:~/Downloads$ inael:/home/inael# aptitude search libwpd i A libwpd-0.9-9- Library for handling WordPerfect documents i libwpd-dev - Library for handling WordPerfect documents p libwpd-doc - Library for handling WordPerfect documents p libwpd-tools- Tools from libwpd for converting WordPerfe c libwpd8c2a - Library for handling WordPerfect documents inael:/home/inael# inkscape in testing have dependencies that are only in stable repositories! Thank you very much! Marcelo I am going to take a stab in the dark here and ask, are you by any chance mixing stable/testing in sources.list? -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
Re: Inkscape error
2011/3/27 Chris Brennan xa...@xaerolimit.net: I am going to take a stab in the dark here and ask, are you by any chance mixing stable/testing in sources.list? No. I mixed testing/unstable. I solved it reinstall inkscape. Thank you very much! Have a nice day. -- O__ --- Marcelo Luiz de Laia Rodovia MGT 367, Km 583 c/ /' _ -- Dep. de Engenharia Florestal nº 5000, Alto da Jacuba (*) \ (*) - UFVJM, Diamantina, MG, Brasil Ph: (+55) 38 3532 1248 ~~- (www.ufvjm.edu.br/floresta) FAX: (+55) 38 3532 1200 ^^- Linux user number 487797 CEP: 39.100-000 - Brazil -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aanlktikquv2qu0-u+44utfdcza8yysjo4feprdf1t...@mail.gmail.com
Re: APT gone nuts
On 27 March 2011 15:35, Brian a...@cityscape.co.uk wrote: On Sun 27 Mar 2011 at 12:37:51 +0100, Michael Thompson wrote: Most of them, even with my limited linux knowledge are fairly important. Why has apt started to ask to remove these packages, and how can I get apt to forget about them? Have you removed the gnome metapackage? Reinstall it. Otherwise I have a feeling you have to mark all those packages as manually installed. I removed nothing, only installed a few packages. I removed the packages using apt-get autoremove, and then reinstalled the gnome desktop using tasksel. I had to reconfigure network-manager etc, but it all appears to be working fine now -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTin8Vsdi61oMLS6qHodE5B2fW8S-sgF=pcfp7...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Serial Connection
Stephen Powell put forth on 3/27/2011 1:41 PM: That's true. But a properly-wired cross-over cable or null modem not only crosses over TD and RD but also crosses over DTR and DSR and also crosses over RTS and CTS. Ground, of course, is wired to Ground. CD is normally tied to DSR on the same side of the interface (on both sides). RI is usually left unconnected. For attaching a terminal all you need to connect are pins 2, 3, and 7 on a DB25, or 2, 3, and 5 on a DB9. Reverse 2,3 on one end of each cable to get your x-over. All the other pins are for modems only and are not used for terminal connections. Serial printers only need 2, 3, 7 as well. At a previous job about 13 years ago I made so damn many of these serial x-over cables, daily, that 2, 3, 7 intruded on my dreams... We bought DB25 plugs in bags of 100, and used spooled CAT5 as the noise rejection is many times that of CAT3, allowing greater distances across sprawling warehouses. We'd drop an ethernet-serial terminal server in each building and then run our custom RJ45 to DB25 cables to the terminals. The terminal servers had RJ45 jacks for density. We used 16 and 48 port models. Can't recall the brand, been too long (thank God). -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8f9d9c@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Squeeze, GPT, GRUB2 and Software RAID1
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 10:35 AM, Georgi Naplatanov go...@oles.biz wrote: I have 2 disk Western Digital WD2002FAEX - 2TB and I want to install Squeeze with software RAID 1 and GPT instead of old MSDOS partition map. I want to use GRUB2 as boot loader, but I read that is needed to be created a BIOS Boot Partition.[1] I have 2 disk and I want when one of them fail to be possible to boot from another. My question is - Will installer, GRUB2 and Squeeze handle synchronization of BIOS Boot Partition on both disks or I have to do it manually and eventually how to do it manually ? I've found that you have to format your disks before the install (and create a bios_grub partition) and you then have to run grub-install /dev/sdb once you're booted into your install. You can probably install grub on both disks by refusing to install to the MBR and then installing it to (hd0) and (hd1) but I've never tried it. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/AANLkTi=tnwj62f86ezupqzxynpfahtyp9xgeusj9a...@mail.gmail.com
Cmake on Knoppix
Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it cataloged under another name? -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201103271656.17748.j...@wexfordpress.com
Re: Cmake on Knoppix
On Sun, Mar 27, 2011 at 4:56 PM, John Culleton j...@wexfordpress.com wrote: Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it cataloged under another name? -- John Culleton Create Book Covers with Scribus: http://www.booklocker.com/books/4055.html A quick search revealed this ... root@debian:~# aptitude search cmake p cmake - a cross-platform, open-source make system p cmake-curses-gui- curses based user interface for CMake (ccmake) p cmake-data - CMake data files (modules, templates and documentation) p cmake-dbg - debugging symbols for CMake p cmake-doc - extended documentation in various formats for CMake v cmake-gui - p cmake-qt-gui- Qt4 based user interface for CMake (cmake-gui) p icmake - Intelligent C-like MAKEr, or the ICce MAKE utility p icmake-doc - Documenation files for icmake root@debian:~# aptitude download cmake Get:1 http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ testing/main cmake amd64 2.8.4+dfsg.1-2 [4,247 kB] Fetched 4,247 kB in 13s (325 kB/s) root@debian:~# -- Did you know... If you play a Windows 2000 CD backwards, you hear satanic messages, but what's worse is when you play it forward ...it installs Windows 2000 -- Alfred Perlstein on chat at freebsd.org
Re: adzapper help needed
On 28/03/11 02:14, Paul E Condon wrote: I've used adzapper long ago, but stopped using it long ago, and forgotten why I stopped. Now I want to use it again on a computer running Wheezy, but I can't find information on how to configure my browser. The Debian documentation seems to have been simplified with some info left out. But maybe my memory fails me ... My recollection is that in addition to configuring adzapper, one must also configure ones browser to use it. I think I need to know the IP address and port number that is providing the adzapper service. Of course I know the IP address. But what is the default port number used by adzapper. Googling gives the answer 8080 but that doesn't work, and I recall that the old instructions had some information on how to change from the default to this value. But I can't find any information about port number, neither what is the default, nor how to change it. Where is this now? -- in either Wheezy or Squeeze? Yes (and Lenny) TIA adzapper is in the main debian repositories:- #apt-get adzapper Note: I believe it requires squid I'd recommend using adblock-plus instead - you can either install it as an add-on/extension for Iceweasel/Firefox or from Debian:- #apt-get xul-ext-adblock-plus Note: adblock-plus requires only that you use Konqueror or Iceweasel, and that you select a filter source from a drop-down list (that appears in the web page which will load the first time you start your browser after installing). Cheers -- A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8fb0ca.9030...@gmail.com
Re: Cmake on Knoppix
On 03/27/2011 04:56 PM, John Culleton wrote: Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it cataloged under another name? ~$ apt-cache search cmake cmake-curses-gui - curses based user interface for CMake (ccmake) cmake-data - CMake data files (modules, templates and documentation) cmake-dbg - debugging symbols for CMake cmake-doc - extended documentation in various formats for CMake cmake-qt-gui - Qt4 based user interface for CMake (cmake-gui) cmake - a cross-platform, open-source make system HTH WT -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8fb24e.6030...@gmail.com
Re: debian 6 - latest release - internet connection
Johan Scheepers, 27.03.2011: On 03/26/2011 08:34 PM, Selim T. Erdogan wrote: Johan Scheepers, 20.03.2011: After installing debian 6 it was found that it prefers built in wireless connection on my dsl. The wire connection was inserted and available. The wireless connection works ok at 55% but I would prefer wired connection. Fedora, centos, mandriva prefers wired connection on installation. Could there be a reason for debian's behaviour. When you say inserted and available do you mean just plugged in, or actually working in Debian? Could it be that the wired ethernet card was not recognized and/or no driver was loaded? Does the wired interface work if you turn off the wireless manually? Good day, Was installing debian 6. Went through the fases answer the questions. It whent on and installed about 1200 files without asking the wireless password. Now I think it must have used the wired connection. That'a good sign. If you didn't have to provide any information during installation, it would mean the setup was determined automatically. Is the wired connection you're trying to use now the same one you were hooked up to during the installation? When I rebooted (first reboot after install) it was found that the wireless connection was used. It will not auto configure eth0. I can not manually configure eth0. I can not answer required questions. Can you write what specific commands or GUI selections you try and what responses (error messages) you see? And what do you mean by the required questions? Point of interest. Fedora 14 and Mandriva 2010.2 was able to configure and use (1) Wired (2) Wireless and (3) Mobile broad on the same machine. They are all installed on separate external USB drives on same machine.. Just switch cables to boot other distro. When debian 5.06 was used it connected to the wired connection. Did not upgrade (never upgrade) do fresh install always. Something must have changed. Thanks Johan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110327222700.ga9...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: Serial Connection
- Original Message - From: Stephen Powell To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Sent: 3/27/2011 6:41:37 PM Subject: Re: Serial Connection On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 11:40:40 -0400 (EDT), ow...@netptc.net wrote: On Sat, 26 Mar 2011 18:52:23 -0400 (EDT, Stephen Powell wrote: I haven't tried this, but one thing you want to make sure of is that you use a cross-over cable. The serial ports on PCs have what's known as a DTE interface (Data Terminal Equipment). The serial ports on modems have what's known as a DCE interface (Data Communications Equipment). A standard serial cable is designed to connect a DTE interface to a DCE interface (i.e. a computer to a modem). What you are trying to do is connect two DTE interfaces together. For that you need to use a special serial cable called a cross-over cable which is specifically designed to connect a DTE interface to another DTE interface. If you try to use a regular serial cable, one designed to connect a DTE interface to a DCE interface, it won't work. An alternative to using a cross-over cable is to use a device called a null modem on one end of your serial cable. A null modem attached to a standard serial cable effectively converts it into a cross-over cable. Connecting a serial printer to a computer also requires a cross-over cable or a standard cable plus a null modem, since both devices have a DTE interface. You also might have to use two cables and two serial ports. One serial port looks like a modem, with you as the terminal. minicom allocates it. The other serial port looks like a serial console, with you as the host. getty allocates it. The other server sees a similar pattern. There's usually more than crossing Transmit Data and Receive Data. There are at least two control signals that are applicable. Usually one borrows what is known as a break-out box to determine which signals each side of the interface are active. There are lots of good googles for RS-232 that will help. That's true. But a properly-wired cross-over cable or null modem not only crosses over TD and RD but also crosses over DTR and DSR and also crosses over RTS and CTS. Ground, of course, is wired to Ground. CD is normally tied to DSR on the same side of the interface (on both sides). RI is usually left unconnected. See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D9_Null_Modem_Wiring.png -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- Yes Stephen that's the traditional approach. Unfortunately there are at least half-a dozen non-standard configurations (e.g. permanent RTS, connecting DSR to DTR) which drive RS-232 people nuts. I agree that the place to start is with your traditional cable or with a null modem adaptor (essentially a black box that does all the interconnections for you, allowing straight through cables from either side to the boxes) but beware this may not work in all situations. Larry -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: 835019430.1751010.1301251297388.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.comhttp://lists.debian.org/835019430.1751010.1301251297388.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Serial Connection
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 16:27:08 -0400 (EDT), Stan Hoeppner wrote: For attaching a terminal all you need to connect are pins 2, 3, and 7 on a DB25, or 2, 3, and 5 on a DB9. Reverse 2,3 on one end of each cable to get your x-over. All the other pins are for modems only and are not used for terminal connections. Serial printers only need 2, 3, 7 as well. That would be transmit data (TD), receive data (RD), and signal ground (SG), respectively. That is the minimum. But it may not be sufficient. If the terminal is set up for hardware flow control, for example, it won't be sufficient. Besides, the OP wants to cross-cable two servers together, it seems, and use a minicom session on one to open a terminal session on the other. minicom was written for use with a modem and probably expects more of these lines to be functional than just TD, RD, and SG. The devil is in the details. If he uses a full cross-over cable, as outlined in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D9_Null_Modem_Wiring.png (or a standard serial cable with a similarly wired null modem), it should work with any DTE-to-DTE connection. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1560657861.1757468.1301273172399.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
Re: Cmake on Knoppix
On 28/03/11 07:56, John Culleton wrote: Knoppix is a Debian derivative so I am asking here. I want to compile svn versions of programs such as Scribus. Scribus has switched from conventional ./configure, make, make install sequence to a cmake based system. I can't seem to be able to download cmake using apt-get. Is it cataloged under another name? Have you tried the Knoppix repositories? # KNOPPIX Sources deb-src http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org ./ # KNOPPIX Precompiled binaries deb http://debian-knoppix.alioth.debian.org ./ Cheers -- A: Yes. Q: Are you sure? A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation. Q: Why is top posting frowned upon? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4d8fdaa4.2090...@gmail.com
Re: Serial Connection
On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 19:30:49 -0400 (EDT), ow...@netptc.net wrote: On Sun, 27 Mar 2011 14:41:37 -0400 (EDT, Stephen Powell wrote: That's true. But a properly-wired cross-over cable or null modem not only crosses over TD and RD but also crosses over DTR and DSR and also crosses over RTS and CTS. Ground, of course, is wired to Ground. CD is normally tied to DSR on the same side of the interface (on both sides). RI is usually left unconnected. See, for example, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:D9_Null_Modem_Wiring.png Yes Stephen that's the traditional approach. Unfortunately there are at least half-a dozen non-standard configurations (e.g. permanent RTS, connecting DSR to DTR) which drive RS-232 people nuts. I agree that the place to start is with your traditional cable or with a null modem adaptor (essentially a black box that does all the interconnections for you, allowing straight through cables from either side to the boxes) but beware this may not work in all situations. I agree. Special situations may require special wiring. As I said in another post, the devil is in the details. -- .''`. Stephen Powell : :' : `. `'` `- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/2019024296.1757667.1301273806216.javamail.r...@md01.wow.synacor.com
