Re: When to reboot after aptitude safe-upgrade?

[Richard Hector]

On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 22:43 -0400, Dan wrote:
> > checkrestart from the debian-goodies is handy for checking that - it
> > will give you a list of what still has old libraries open, and
> > suggestions (not always the best ones) as to how to re-open them. If
> > there are lots, or you don't know how to (or can't) restart them,
> then
> > yes it might be easier to reboot.
> >
> 
> That looks very handy. I should be possible to have the same result
> using lsof, right? for example before installing the package check
> lsof libray_from_package 

Possibly, although I've noticed that checkrestart doesn't work in a
vserver environment, whereas lsof does, so I guess it's doing something
that lsof doesn't.

Richard
(Please don't cc me BTW)



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Re: Public Apology to Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew and Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong, Singapore

[chris]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:34 PM, "Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang
Enming) 张恩鸣 "  wrote:

> I was misconstrued as having insulted Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew. My
> words were twisted and misinterpreted and I feel that there is a need to
> explain myself and set the record straight.
>
> [b]What really happened[/b]
>
> It was sometime in Aug/Sep in the year 2009. The setting was in the
> Tampines Central office of Asiasoft Online Pte Ltd. I was having a
> ***verbal*** conversation with Melvin Lee, my new I.T. department manager,
> when he challenged me to complete an I.T. assignment within a specified
> period of time. In response to his challenge, I replied in Mandarin: "If I
> cannot complete the I.T. assignment within a specified period of time, then
> Lee Kuan Yew is wang ba dan". I used to be fond of using other people's
> names to "bet" with people but now no more. The Minister Mentor's name came
> into my mind spontaneously and I used it to "bet" with my I.T. department
> manager.
>
> [b]Explanations[/b]
>
> 1. It was not my intention to insult the Minister Mentor at that time.
> Please note the use of the IF... THEN... statement in my verbal
> conversation.
>
> 2. I did not know wang ba dan [hanyu pinyin] means bastard at all until I
> consulted Goh Meng Seng much later.
>
> I would like to apologize to the Minister Mentor and the Prime Minister of
> Singapore if I have offended them in any way. I swear it was not my
> intention to insult the Minister Mentor. Please forgive me for using your
> name carelessly to "bet" with my former I.T. department manager.
>
>
> Yours sincerely,
>
> Singapore Citizen Mr. Teo En Ming (Zhang Enming) Dip BEng(Hons)
> Alma Maters:
> (1) Singapore Polytechnic
> (2) National University of Singapore
>
> -
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this is so far off topic and its not the first time, enough already

Re: When to reboot after aptitude safe-upgrade?

[Dan]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 10:28 PM, Richard Hector  wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 22:21 -0400, Dan wrote:
>> Hi,
>> I would like to know when I have to reboot my server after doing
>> safe-upgrade with aptitude. I googled it and I didn't find a clear
>> answer. In my desktop there is a package called update-notifier-common
>> which has some scripts that write a file called
>> /var/run/reboot-required when a reboot is required.
>>
>> I do not have that package in my server so that I can not check that
>> file to know if I have to reboot the system. I do not want to install
>> that package because I prefer to keep the server as clean as possible.
>> In the server there is no X-server, gnome, etc...
>>
>> Then, when do I have to reboot? Only when I update the kernel?
>
> The other reason might be updated libraries that are still in use by
> running applications.
>
> checkrestart from the debian-goodies is handy for checking that - it
> will give you a list of what still has old libraries open, and
> suggestions (not always the best ones) as to how to re-open them. If
> there are lots, or you don't know how to (or can't) restart them, then
> yes it might be easier to reboot.
>

That looks very handy. I should be possible to have the same result
using lsof, right? for example before installing the package check
lsof libray_from_package

Dan


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Re: When to reboot after aptitude safe-upgrade?

[Richard Hector]

On Fri, 2011-04-29 at 22:21 -0400, Dan wrote:
> Hi,
> I would like to know when I have to reboot my server after doing
> safe-upgrade with aptitude. I googled it and I didn't find a clear
> answer. In my desktop there is a package called update-notifier-common
> which has some scripts that write a file called
> /var/run/reboot-required when a reboot is required.
> 
> I do not have that package in my server so that I can not check that
> file to know if I have to reboot the system. I do not want to install
> that package because I prefer to keep the server as clean as possible.
> In the server there is no X-server, gnome, etc...
> 
> Then, when do I have to reboot? Only when I update the kernel?

The other reason might be updated libraries that are still in use by
running applications.

checkrestart from the debian-goodies is handy for checking that - it
will give you a list of what still has old libraries open, and
suggestions (not always the best ones) as to how to re-open them. If
there are lots, or you don't know how to (or can't) restart them, then
yes it might be easier to reboot.

Richard



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When to reboot after aptitude safe-upgrade?

[Dan]

Hi,
I would like to know when I have to reboot my server after doing
safe-upgrade with aptitude. I googled it and I didn't find a clear
answer. In my desktop there is a package called update-notifier-common
which has some scripts that write a file called
/var/run/reboot-required when a reboot is required.

I do not have that package in my server so that I can not check that
file to know if I have to reboot the system. I do not want to install
that package because I prefer to keep the server as clean as possible.
In the server there is no X-server, gnome, etc...

Then, when do I have to reboot? Only when I update the kernel?

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: xmodmap per application

[Richard Hector]

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 16:45 +0300, Panayiotis Karabassis wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
> 
> Hi, is it possible to use xmodmap or a similar utility, on a per
> application basis?
> 
> Currently I have redefined my keybindings using xmodmap to get my
> Logitech remote control working with MPlayer, but this breaks a lot of
> other applications!

I've never tried this, or any keyboard remapping that I can remember,
but it seems to me it might be better to do this on a per input device
basis rather than per application.

setxkbmap(1) looks like it might do the trick?

Richard



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Re: How naked am I?

[Richard Hector]

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 12:22 +0200, tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Le 28/04/2011 11:27, Lisi a écrit :
> > On Thursday 28 April 2011 09:50:28 tv.deb...@googlemail.com wrote:
> >> My experience with Netgear home routers (currently a WNR3500L) suggest
> >> you could start with 192.168.1.1 in you web browser, that should get you
> >> to the config page of the router.
> > 
> > Mine, a Netgear DG834GT, is 192.168.0.1.  This has consistently been my 
> > experience with Netgears.  Maybe they have different defaults for different 
> > countries?
> > 
> > Lisi
> > 
> > 
> 
> Highly possible, or they switch randomly from model to model, only they
> know... So the OP could try both, and 10.0.0.1, 10.0.1.1 on top of that,
> and he would stand a good chance to find the right one. As an alternate
> he could save time by reading the specs maybe, by looking at the back of
> my router I found a sticker with this :
> 
> Default access:
> http://www.routerlogin.net
> default user: admin
> default password: password

Or run 'netstat -nr' on the machine that works, and look for the next
hop for the default route:

richard@zircon:~$ netstat -nr
Kernel IP routing table
Destination Gateway Genmask Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
192.168.10.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0 0  0 eth0
0.0.0.0 192.168.10.10.0.0.0 UG0 0  0 eth0


Richard



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Re: Command history

[Richard Hector]

On Thu, 2011-04-28 at 15:13 +0300, Sophoklis Goumas wrote:

> $ pgrep bash
> $ kill 

or kill $$

I use that whenever I type/paste a password into my shell in the wrong
sequence :-)

(I actually kill -9 $$ just to be sure :-)

Richard



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Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

[sdc]

Michelle Konzack, don't know why you are replying since the problem has been
solved. Read the thread, if you are looking for flame, flame elsewhere. By
the way, is there an option to mark this mail as a solved so others will
(hopefully)not reply to it anymore?

which -dbg to install

[Arno Schuring]

Hello list,

since updating both gstreamer and alsa this afternoon, I'm having
regular segfaults in quodlibet. However, since ql has not been updated I
have no idea against which package I should file a bug.

So, I set out to catch a core dump, and I'm trying to make sense of the
backtrace but apparently I'm still missing some -dbg files. Here is
what I have so far:

aschuring@neminis:~$ gdb `which python` core
[..]
[New Thread 3134]
[New Thread 3135]
[New Thread 3143]
[New Thread 3144]
[New Thread 3147]
[New Thread 3113]
[New Thread 3114]
[New Thread 3119]
[New Thread 3133]
warning: Can't read pathname for load map: Input/output error.
[Reading symbols..]
Core was generated by `python /usr/bin/quodlibet --start-playing'.
Program terminated with signal 11, Segmentation fault.
#0  0xb0158b4a in ?? ()
(gdb) thread 1
[Switching to thread 1 (Thread 3134)]#0  0xb0158b4a in ?? ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0xb0158b4a in ?? ()
#1  0x0900 in ?? ()
#2  0x in ?? ()
(gdb) thread 2
[Switching to thread 2 (Thread 3135)]#0  0xb7828424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
(gdb) bt
#0  0xb7828424 in __kernel_vsyscall ()
#1  0xb758a696 in __poll (fds=0xb760dff4, nfds=1, timeout=40)
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/poll.c:87
#2  0xb5526c96 in ?? () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#3  0xb5526e4b in snd_pcm_wait () from /usr/lib/libasound.so.2
#4  0xb0067e92 in gst_alsasink_write(asink=0xd634f88, data=0xd78b3b8,
length=7520) at gstalsasink.c:865
#5  0xb0149d47 in audioringbuffer_thread_func (buf=0xafb211f0) at
gstaudiosink.c:244
#6  0xb715bb6f in ?? () from /lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
#7  0xb77fc955 in start_thread (arg=0xafaffb70) at pthread_create.c:300
#8  0xb7597e7e in clone ()
at ../sysdeps/unix/sysv/linux/i386/clone.S:130


As you can see, the segfault occurs in a thread without symbols. Will
it make a difference if I install each and every -dbg package indicated
by gdb (that's about a zillion-and-one packages), or am I facing a
corrupted stack?

I've now reverted to alsa-base from Squeeze, but that shows the same
problem. Is there another way that I can get more info from a core
dump, or should I just stick to downgrading/upgrading packages until
I've found the cause?


Thanks,
Arno


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Re: file systems

[Chris Brennan]

On Fri, Apr 29, 2011 at 3:08 PM, prad  wrote:

Chris Brennan  writes:
>
> [snip]
>
> > No worries, couldn't hurt to read up on CDDL[1], *BSD[2] Licences and
> > GNU/GPL [3]. As for your general Filesystem needs, XFS or XFS-LVM is
> > probably the smart way to go.
> >
> > You mentioned something about doing this on USB (solid-state?)
> > storage? You might want to also consider reading up on USB's general
> > policy about write few, read many. In a nutshell, most USB devices
> > don't like to be written to many many times (such as a busy *primary*
> > FS). They have a limited shelf-life of writes )wear leveling) before
> > they go bad (I have an OCZ ATV rubber thumb drive that has suffered
> > this.) This is why they tell you defragmenting SSD's is a *VERY* bad
> > idea, you significantly reduce the write ability of the device.[4]
> > [5][6]
> >
> > [1]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License
> > [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
> > [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
> > [4]
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive#Advantages_and_disadvantages
> > [5] http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/
> > 114-How-Long-Does-a-Flash-Drive-Last.html
> > [6] http://www.corsairmemory.com/_faq/FAQ_flash_drive_wear_leveling.pdf
> >
> many thx chris for the links. i was surprised to read this: "one of the
> reasons for basing the CDDL on the Mozilla license was that the Mozilla
> license is GPL-incompatible."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License
>
> looking further i saw: "The Free Software Foundation (FSF) considers the
> license a free software license, albeit one with a weak
> copyleft. However, "unlike the X11 license" (MIT License) the license
> has "some complex restrictions" making it incompatible with the GNU
> GPL. They urge people not to use the license because of this
> incompatibility unless the provision in section 13 of the MPL is
> exercised to provide the work under either the GPL or any other
> GPL-compatible license.[2]
>
> For these reasons, the Mozilla Suite and Firefox have been relicensed
> under multiple licenses, including the MPL, GPL and LGPL."
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License#Compatibility_with_GPL
>
> so that might be why firefox is called iceweasel on debian and nakamoura
> on arch.
>
>
> also, thx for the tips regarding my usb idea. i agree it isn't a good
> one for several reasons. we'll stick to regular hard drives for now when
> we switch from freebsd to debian in june.
>
> --
> in friendship,
> prad
>

No worries, glad to be of help. Open Source Licencing is tricky ... but the
provided links should also have given you enough of an idea as to why
ZFS+Linux is a slim chance in hell to happen right now ... it would be great
to see ZFS in the Linux kernel, natively,  but you also need to consider
that the BSD world is still contributing heavily to the development of ZFS,
so it's also in heavy flux and that combined w/ the licencing of ZFS and the
kernel make it a nightmare to try and pull of successfully right now.

You would also need to take into account survivability of the project. ZFS
has a huge following but if Oracle were to get a bug up their collective
bums and stop public releases of ZFS past v28 then that's all the Open
Source community would be left with, is v28 as the most recent release. The
*BSD's would no doubt jump on it and fork it in a heartbeat ... but ZFSv28
while stable under most conditions and is feature-rich and very robust, it
is not feature-complete yet. ZFS is a great solution, it just isn't really
read for prime-time production use yet.

XFS, EXT3 and EXT4 are all great Filesystems to choose from in the meantime.
XFS being your actual choice, you will find it to be a very feature-rich,
feature-complete and robust FS that is able to grow and scale as you need
it. Just remember that it, like any other FS isn't the end-all be-all of
Filesystems, always make make room for appropriate backups, hardware
failover (multiple redundant RAID Arrays), dump the FS to another RAID
Array, and media-backups ... Bluray being ~50Gb/disc makes for an idea
solution for appropriately sized FS's.

Keep reading and if you get stuck ... the list is here to help ... even
the evangelists and naysayers can point you in the right direction ...

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Re: file systems

[prad]

Chris Brennan  writes:

[snip]

> No worries, couldn't hurt to read up on CDDL[1], *BSD[2] Licences and
> GNU/GPL [3]. As for your general Filesystem needs, XFS or XFS-LVM is
> probably the smart way to go. 
>
> You mentioned something about doing this on USB (solid-state?)
> storage? You might want to also consider reading up on USB's general
> policy about write few, read many. In a nutshell, most USB devices
> don't like to be written to many many times (such as a busy *primary*
> FS). They have a limited shelf-life of writes )wear leveling) before
> they go bad (I have an OCZ ATV rubber thumb drive that has suffered
> this.) This is why they tell you defragmenting SSD's is a *VERY* bad
> idea, you significantly reduce the write ability of the device.[4]
> [5][6]
>
> [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses
> [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_General_Public_License
> [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_flash_drive#Advantages_and_disadvantages
> [5] http://www.bress.net/blog/archives/
> 114-How-Long-Does-a-Flash-Drive-Last.html
> [6] http://www.corsairmemory.com/_faq/FAQ_flash_drive_wear_leveling.pdf
>
many thx chris for the links. i was surprised to read this: "one of the
reasons for basing the CDDL on the Mozilla license was that the Mozilla
license is GPL-incompatible."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_Development_and_Distribution_License

looking further i saw: "The Free Software Foundation (FSF) considers the
license a free software license, albeit one with a weak
copyleft. However, "unlike the X11 license" (MIT License) the license
has "some complex restrictions" making it incompatible with the GNU
GPL. They urge people not to use the license because of this
incompatibility unless the provision in section 13 of the MPL is
exercised to provide the work under either the GPL or any other
GPL-compatible license.[2]

For these reasons, the Mozilla Suite and Firefox have been relicensed
under multiple licenses, including the MPL, GPL and LGPL."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Public_License#Compatibility_with_GPL

so that might be why firefox is called iceweasel on debian and nakamoura
on arch.


also, thx for the tips regarding my usb idea. i agree it isn't a good
one for several reasons. we'll stick to regular hard drives for now when
we switch from freebsd to debian in june.

-- 
in friendship,
prad


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Re: How to have separate kbd layouts per usb-keyboards?

[peasthope]

Bruno,

From:   Bruno Boettcher 
Date:   Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:42:30 +0200
> ... installed for our media server 2 keyboards, one german, the other french 
> ...

Seems a pity that a simple linguistic matter requires a 
hardware solution.  Dasher is a completely different solution.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dasher
Probably won't help in this case but might solve a similar 
problem in another context.

Regards, ... Peter E.

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Re: file systems

[prad]

Ron Johnson  writes:

> On 04/29/2011 01:10 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> On 4/26/2011 5:40 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:
>>
>>> But not being able to fsck the fs that I just created is unacceptable.
>>
>> Again, 'xfs_repair -n' is functionally equivalent to 'xfs_check'. They
>> are two methods (paths) that (should) arrive at the same result. Either
>> will let you know if the filesystem has errors.
>>
>> Have you run 'xfs_repair -n' yet to see if it trips over your per
>> process memory limit? If it doesn't, you have your fsck and can eat it
>> too. ;)
>>
>
> I already converted to ext4.
>
and i have converted to xfs!
i am very impressed so far and will try to document my experiences with
it as a sort of 'noob guide' ... if only to help myself out. :D

thx again stan! i'm looking forward to learning about the filesystem,
something i never bothered with in the past.

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Re: How to globally change GTK2 input method (was: Trouble entering composed characters)

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:13:23 -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote:

> Camaleón  writes:
>>> I have trouble entering keyboard compositions in many, but not all
>>> applications. For example, when entering dead_iota + a (which I have
>>> configured to give adiaresis in ~/.XCompose) gnome terminal just beeps
>>> and does nothing. Other affected applications are gedit, icedove and
>>> LibreOffice. Emacs, on the other hand, does not show any problems and
>>> correctly inserts adiaresis.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> All of the failing apps are GTK2+ based...
> 
> Eureka! When right clicking in a GTK2 text field and selecting "Input
> Method -> X Input Method" it works! But how do I make this setting
> permanent and the default for all applications and widgets? Iceweasel,
> for example, doesn't show this context menu entry.

That seems to be in connection with Teemu's advice (XIM: "X Input 
Method"). Try what he suggested :-)

Greetings,

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How to globally change GTK2 input method (was: Trouble entering composed characters)

[Nikolaus Rath]

Camaleón  writes:
>> I have trouble entering keyboard compositions in many, but not all
>> applications. For example, when entering dead_iota + a (which I have
>> configured to give adiaresis in ~/.XCompose) gnome terminal just beeps
>> and does nothing. Other affected applications are gedit, icedove and
>> LibreOffice. Emacs, on the other hand, does not show any problems and
>> correctly inserts adiaresis.
>
> (...)
>
> All of the failing apps are GTK2+ based...

Eureka! When right clicking in a GTK2 text field and selecting "Input
Method -> X Input Method" it works! But how do I make this setting
permanent and the default for all applications and widgets? Iceweasel,
for example, doesn't show this context menu entry.


Thanks,

   -Nikolaus

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Re: Trouble entering composed characters

[Nikolaus Rath]

Camaleón  writes:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:14:55 -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
>
>> I have trouble entering keyboard compositions in many, but not all
>> applications. For example, when entering dead_iota + a (which I have
>> configured to give adiaresis in ~/.XCompose) gnome terminal just beeps
>> and does nothing. Other affected applications are gedit, icedove and
>> LibreOffice. Emacs, on the other hand, does not show any problems and
>> correctly inserts adiaresis.
>
> (...)
>
> All of the failing apps are GTK2+ based... does it work with another 
> combination, let's say "  " (what I'm trying with 
> that is to find out a possible collision with another system-wide 
> predefined key combo).

No, none of the composition sequences seem to work.

> Hum... maybe I'm guessing too much but, have you tried to setup an "us-
> intl¹" keyboard layout? I say this because getting the diaeresis 
> characters (ä, Ä, ë, Ë...) is easier with it as there is no need to 
> define specific composing combination :-?

When switching to us-intl, I can enter the characters with AltGr. But I
don't want to use that.


Best,

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Re: file systems

[Ron Johnson]

On 04/29/2011 01:10 PM, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

On 4/26/2011 5:40 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:


But not being able to fsck the fs that I just created is unacceptable.


Again, 'xfs_repair -n' is functionally equivalent to 'xfs_check'. They
are two methods (paths) that (should) arrive at the same result. Either
will let you know if the filesystem has errors.

Have you run 'xfs_repair -n' yet to see if it trips over your per
process memory limit? If it doesn't, you have your fsck and can eat it
too. ;)



I already converted to ext4.

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Re: file systems

[Stan Hoeppner]

On 4/26/2011 5:40 PM, Ron Johnson wrote:


But not being able to fsck the fs that I just created is unacceptable.


Again, 'xfs_repair -n' is functionally equivalent to 'xfs_check'.  They 
are two methods (paths) that (should) arrive at the same result.  Either 
will let you know if the filesystem has errors.


Have you run 'xfs_repair -n' yet to see if it trips over your per 
process memory limit?  If it doesn't, you have your fsck and can eat it 
too. ;)


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Re: How to have separate kbd layouts per usb-keyboards?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:42:30 +0200, Bruno Boettcher wrote:

(...)

>   so i installed for our media server 2 keyboards, one german, the other
>   french and now i am searching how to configure the machine to
>   allways assume german keyboard layout coming from a certain usb
>   device, and french from another... and am stuck since i didn't even
>   manage to get the beginning of a solution.

Why not adding an applet to the taskbar to change the keyboard layout on 
user demand? Or better yet, why not having two separate accounts and a 
different keyboard layout on each one set by default? :-?

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How to have separate kbd layouts per usb-keyboards?

[Bruno Boettcher]

Hello,

  seems i am unable to find the correct terms to get something useful
  out of google

  i have the following problem: i am used to a german keyboard, my wife
  to a french layout

  anyone who had to switch between those 2 will concur that the
  respective other one is a real pain in the a..

  so i installed for our media server 2 keyboards, one german, the other
  french and now i am searching how to configure the machine to
  allways assume german keyboard layout coming from a certain usb
  device, and french from another... and am stuck since i didn't even
  manage to get the beginning of a solution.

  i suppose it has something to do with udev, but otherwise...


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Re: Trouble entering composed characters

[Teemu Likonen]

* 2011-04-29T09:14:55-04:00 * Nikolaus Rath wrote:

> I have trouble entering keyboard compositions in many, but not all
> applications. For example, when entering dead_iota + a (which I have
> configured to give adiaresis in ~/.XCompose) gnome terminal just beeps
> and does nothing.

I have noticed some GTK programs having this problem. They user
different input method by default. Try setting this environment
variable:

$ export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim

Then start those problematic applications from the shell. If it works
you could set the variable in /etc/environment file or alternatively
install package "im-switch". Then run command

$ im-switch

and select "Use xim (default-xim)" from the menu. The next X session
will have that input method (xim) enabled for GTK and QT applications.


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Re: Trouble entering composed characters

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 09:14:55 -0400, Nikolaus Rath wrote:

> I have trouble entering keyboard compositions in many, but not all
> applications. For example, when entering dead_iota + a (which I have
> configured to give adiaresis in ~/.XCompose) gnome terminal just beeps
> and does nothing. Other affected applications are gedit, icedove and
> LibreOffice. Emacs, on the other hand, does not show any problems and
> correctly inserts adiaresis.

(...)

All of the failing apps are GTK2+ based... does it work with another 
combination, let's say "  " (what I'm trying with 
that is to find out a possible collision with another system-wide 
predefined key combo).

Hum... maybe I'm guessing too much but, have you tried to setup an "us-
intl¹" keyboard layout? I say this because getting the diaeresis 
characters (ä, Ä, ë, Ë...) is easier with it as there is no need to 
define specific composing combination :-?

¹http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keyboard_layout#US-International

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Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello Brad Rogers,

Am 2011-04-29 16:09:47, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:02:03 +0200
> Michelle Konzack  wrote:
> Hello Michelle,
> > What is this crap about?
> Read the thread!

"contrib" and "non-free" is nor considered as  the  Debian  Distribution
and I can not find the mentinoned packages on my NEW Squeeze System DOT

So, Debian has no NON-FREE software in it DOT

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Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

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On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 17:02:03 +0200
Michelle Konzack  wrote:

Hello Michelle,

> What is this crap about?

Read the thread!

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Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

[Michelle Konzack]

Hello sdc,

Am 2011-04-27 11:47:43, hacktest Du folgendes herunter:
> Greetings, I was reading FSF distro review and I was shocked to see that
> Debian isn't actually free software. FSF said that they are making a big
> progress(this happened when they removed the blobs from the kernel) but
> still isn't free software because users have the option to install
> proprietary software from debian's server and this is a bit confusing for
> beginners in this free software world.

I want more FUD!  Please tell me which NON-FREE SOFTWARE!

> My beginner question is, why doesn't Debian remove the proprietary software
> hosted on it's servers? Don't they want to follow the FSF word?

What is this crap about?

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Re: Need help with post-squeeze problems

[Brad Alexander]

I figured it out. What happened was that there were a few packages that got
installed over the years, that were from testing or more likely unstable.
So, for instance, one package was dependent on g++-4.4.5-8, but 4.4.5-10 was
installed and this is what was gumming up things.

Now that that is resolved, I have one more question. There are a number of
kde3 3.5.9 and 3.5.10 packages that are listed as rc. I have trinity
installed, which is kde 3.5.12. If I dpkg -P the rc files, do I need to
apt-get install --reinstall the -trinity files to make sure it doesn't wipe
the needed config files or is the installer wise enough to know that there
is a package that needs them? This is mainly to clean up the package
listing...

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On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Sven Joachim  wrote:

> On 2011-04-28 18:39 +0200, Brad Alexander wrote:
>
> > I got my daughter's netbook upgraded to squeeze, however, there are some
> > issues that I have encountered. I did it per the squeeze release notes,
> the
> > audit, etc, then apt-get update on the new sources.lists, apt-get
> upgrade,
> > upgraded kernel and udev, rebooted, then did the dist-upgrade. The
> > dist-upgrade removed a bunch of packages:
> >
> > The following packages will be REMOVED:
> >   build-essential cervisia cupsddk-drivers debhelper dh-make g++ g++-4.3
> gcc
> >   gcc-4.3 gettext gnuift gnuift-perl imagemagick intltool-debian
> kde-trinity
> >   kdemultimedia-trinity kdewebdev-trinity kernel-package
> kommander-trinity
> >   libarts1-xine-trinity libblas3gf libcvsservice0 libdatrie0 libept0
> >   libgfortran3 libgomp1 libgraphviz4 liblapack3gf libmagick10 librpm4.4
> >   libstdc++6-4.3-dev libsuitesparse-3.1.0 libxine1 libxine1-misc-plugins
> >   libxine1-plugins libxml-libxml-common-perl linux-headers-2.6.32-5-686
> >   madwifi-source po-debconf python-glade2 python-gtk2 python-notify
> >   python-numeric quanta-trinity wicd-gtk xserver-xorg-video-all
> >   xserver-xorg-video-cyrix xserver-xorg-video-imstt
> xserver-xorg-video-nsc
> >   xserver-xorg-video-tseng xserver-xorg-video-v4l xserver-xorg-video-vga
> >   xulrunner-1.9
>
> This should not have happened.  Are there some packages that you had put
> on hold?
>
> > Now, when I try to install some of the packages that got removed, apt-get
> > does not want to reinstall the dependencies.
>
> That's why they got removed in the first place, I suppose.
>
> > I'm not sure how far down the
> > rabbit hole I need to go.
>
> With apt-get you can go as far as you like, it will never output any
> useful diagnostics why it does not install the package you want.
>
> > Can someone tell me why the dependencies are not being installed and how
> I
> > can fix this? I dom't necessarily want to reboot, at least until I get
> her
> > wicd back.
>
>
> > [root@rubicon apt]# apt-get install wicd-gtk python-gtk2 python-glade2
> > python-numpy
> > Reading package lists... Done
> > Building dependency tree
> > Reading state information... Done
> > Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
> > requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
> > distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
> > or been moved out of Incoming.
> > The following information may help to resolve the situation:
> >
> > The following packages have unmet dependencies:
> >  python-numpy : Depends: libblas3gf but it is not going to be installed
> or
> >  libblas.so.3gf or
> >  libatlas3gf-base but it is not going to be
> > installed
> > Depends: libgfortran3 (>= 4.3) but it is not going to be
> > installed
> > Depends: liblapack3gf but it is not going to be installed
> or
> >  liblapack.so.3gf or
> >  libatlas3gf-base but it is not going to be
> > installed
> > E: Broken packages
> >
> > Can someone tell me why the dependencies are not being installed and how
> I
> > can fix this? I dom't necessarily want to reboot, at least until I get
> her
> > wicd back.
>
> Try using aptitude instead of apt-get, first in dry-run mode as a normal
> user:
>
> $ aptitude -s -V -D -o "Aptitude::Delete-Unused=false" install wicd-gtk
>
> If the suggested solution does not suit you, press 'n' at the prompt and
> see what else aptitude has to offer.
>
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Trouble entering composed characters

[Nikolaus Rath]

Hello,

I have trouble entering keyboard compositions in many, but not all
applications. For example, when entering dead_iota + a (which I have
configured to give adiaresis in ~/.XCompose) gnome terminal just beeps
and does nothing. Other affected applications are gedit, icedove and
LibreOffice. Emacs, on the other hand, does not show any problems and
correctly inserts adiaresis.

When running xev in the terminal, everything looks alright:

KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x481,
root 0xb0, subw 0x0, time 842521, (1552,362), root:(1558,416),
state 0x80, keycode 20 (keysym 0xfe5d, dead_iota), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 2 bytes: (ce b9) "ι"
XmbLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: True

KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x481,
root 0xb0, subw 0x0, time 842617, (1552,362), root:(1558,416),
state 0x80, keycode 20 (keysym 0xfe5d, dead_iota), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 2 bytes: (ce b9) "ι"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x481,
root 0xb0, subw 0x0, time 842761, (1552,362), root:(1558,416),
state 0x80, keycode 66 (keysym 0xfe03, ISO_Level3_Shift), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x481,
root 0xb0, subw 0x0, time 845009, (1552,362), root:(1558,416),
state 0x0, keycode 38 (keysym 0x61, a), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (61) "a"
XmbLookupString gives 1 bytes: (61) "a"
XFilterEvent returns: True

KeyPress event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x481,
root 0xb0, subw 0x0, time 845009, (1552,362), root:(1558,416),
state 0x0, keycode 0 (keysym 0xe4, adiaeresis), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 0 bytes: 
XmbLookupString gives 2 bytes: (c3 a4) "ä"
XFilterEvent returns: False

KeyRelease event, serial 33, synthetic NO, window 0x481,
root 0xb0, subw 0x0, time 845121, (1552,362), root:(1558,416),
state 0x0, keycode 38 (keysym 0x61, a), same_screen YES,
XLookupString gives 1 bytes: (61) "a"
XFilterEvent returns: False


Locales are

$ locale
LANG=en_US.utf8
LC_CTYPE="en_US.utf8"
LC_NUMERIC="en_US.utf8"
LC_TIME="en_US.utf8"
LC_COLLATE="en_US.utf8"
LC_MONETARY="en_US.utf8"
LC_MESSAGES="en_US.utf8"
LC_PAPER="en_US.utf8"
LC_NAME="en_US.utf8"
LC_ADDRESS="en_US.utf8"
LC_TELEPHONE="en_US.utf8"
LC_MEASUREMENT="en_US.utf8"
LC_IDENTIFICATION="en_US.utf8"
LC_ALL=


And the compositions are:

$ cat .XCompose 
include "/usr/share/X11/locale/en_US.UTF-8/Compose"

  : ","   comma
  : "Ä"   Adiaeresis
  : "Ö"   Odiaeresis # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER O 
WITH DIAERESIS
  : "Ü"   Udiaeresis # LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U 
WITH DIAERESIS
  : "ä"   adiaeresis # LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH 
DIAERESIS
  : "ö"   odiaeresis # LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH 
DIAERESIS
  : "ü"   udiaeresis # LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH 
DIAERESIS
  : "ß"   ssharp # LATIN SMALL LETTER SHARP S
 <0> : "°"   degree # DEGREE SIGN



Does anyone have a suggestion how I can track this down further? I am
using Debian testing.


Thanks,

   -Nikolaus

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Re: Dovecot Problems on Sid

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 14:29:31 +0300, David Baron wrote:

(please, avoid using html formatted messages)

> Updating to the Sid version was a catastrophe--flagged all kinds of
> superseded syntax warning which were flagged as errors when I tried to
> edit them into the conf file. Commented out, got listening errors for
> various 9## ports.
> 
> So I downgraded to the testing version and used a backed up conf file.
> 
> No startup errors, dmesg, nothing, but "localhost refuses connection"
> when trying to access imap on the system. From outside, "server not
> found."
> 
> Nothing like this is listed in the bugs. Has anyone encountered such
> problems, fix them?

I would start with the usual tests:

http://wiki.dovecot.org/TestInstallation

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Fwd: What happend with a pppd??

[cosme]

 
 Hi
 
For a lot of time I have been being about carrying out client's linux 
connection to my ISP windows server 2003, finally I achieved it.
 
but now there is not transfer, treatment of making ping but there is not 
answer.
 
my /var/log/messages
 
Apr 28 09:48:44 sax pppd[6140]: pppd 2.4.5 started by root, uid 0
Apr 28 09:48:44 sax pppd[6140]: Using interface ppp0
Apr 28 09:48:44 sax pppd[6140]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Apr 28 09:48:45 sax pppd[6140]: CHAP authentication succeeded
Apr 28 09:48:45 sax pppd[6140]: MPPE 128-bit stateful compression enabled
Apr 28 09:48:46 sax pppd[6140]: local IP address 192.168.200.6
Apr 28 09:48:46 sax pppd[6140]: remote IP address 192.168.200.5
Apr 28 09:48:46 sax pppd[6140]: primary DNS address 192.168.200.1
Apr 28 09:49:20 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0xa2fc received
Apr 28 09:51:25 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0x40b2 received
Apr 28 09:53:21 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0xbe87 received
Apr 28 09:53:24 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0xcd received
Apr 28 09:53:30 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0x467d received
Apr 28 09:53:35 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 'RTP IPHC Compressed 
non-TCP' (0x65) received
Apr 28 09:53:40 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0x8f received
Apr 28 09:53:45 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0x8b received
Apr 28 09:53:51 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0xd860 received
Apr 28 09:55:35 sax pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0x4038 received
Apr 28 09:56:54 sax pppd[6140]: Terminating on signal 15
Apr 28 09:56:54 sax pppd[6140]: Connect time 8.2 minutes.
Apr 28 09:56:54 sax pppd[6140]: Sent 0 bytes, received 484 bytes.
 
which the error is??
 
and this is my /var/log/syslog
 
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: pppd 2.4.5 started by root, uid 0
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: using channel 28
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: Using interface ppp0
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: Connect: ppp0 <--> /dev/ttyS0
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: sent [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
  ]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x0  
  
 < 17 04 
10 e6>]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: sent [LCP ConfRej id=0x0  
 < 17 04 10 e6>]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [LCP ConfAck id=0x1  
  ]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x1  
]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: sent [LCP ConfNak id=0x1 ]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [LCP ConfReq id=0x2  
]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: sent [LCP ConfAck id=0x2  
]
Apr 28 09:48:44 abc pppd[6140]: sent [LCP EchoReq id=0x0 magic=0x28bcd904]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [CHAP Challenge id=0x0 
<07b0745b36dd796296f97f4f1e3d053f>, name = "SERVER"]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [CHAP Response id=0x0 
,
 
name = "esid"]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [LCP EchoRep id=0x0 magic=0x15da370f]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [CHAP Success id=0x0 
"S=E4953A0AD5CE4CF8BFED7954849AF11CC46901ED"]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: CHAP authentication succeeded
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x1 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [CCP ConfReq id=0x4 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [CCP ConfNak id=0x4 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x5  ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [IPCP TermAck id=0x5]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [CCP ConfNak id=0x1 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [CCP ConfReq id=0x2 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [CCP ConfReq id=0x6 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [CCP ConfAck id=0x6 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [CCP ConfAck id=0x2 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: MPPE 128-bit stateful compression enabled
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x1]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [IPCP ConfRej id=0x1 ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x2   ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [IPCP ConfNak id=0x2  ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: sent [IPCP ConfReq id=0x3   ]
Apr 28 09:48:45 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [IPCP ConfAck id=0x3   ]
Apr 28 09:48:46 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [IPCP ConfReq id=0x7  ]
Apr 28 09:48:46 abc pppd[6140]: sent [IPCP ConfAck id=0x7  ]
Apr 28 09:48:46 abc pppd[6140]: local IP address 192.168.200.6
Apr 28 09:48:46 abc pppd[6140]: remote IP address 192.168.200.5
Apr 28 09:48:46 abc pppd[6140]: primary DNS address 192.168.200.1
Apr 28 09:48:46 abc pppd[6140]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up started (pid 6143)
Apr 28 09:48:56 abc pppd[6140]: Script /etc/ppp/ip-up finished (pid 6143), 
status = 0x0
Apr 28 09:49:20 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [proto=0xa2fc] a1 2b 6f 22 67 44 25 84 
e3 19 47 00 cd 80 ae 3a 97 08 42 20 44 66 ce ed f5 84 e4 de b8 27 9f e1 ...
Apr 28 09:49:20 abc pppd[6140]: Unsupported protocol 0xa2fc received
Apr 28 09:49:20 abc pppd[6140]: sent [LCP ProtRej id=0x2 a2 fc a1 2b 6f 22 
67 44 25 84 e3 19 47 00 cd 80 ae 3a 97 08 42 20 44 66 ce ed f5 84 e4 de b8 
27 ...]
Apr 28 09:51:25 abc pppd[6140]: rcvd [proto=0x40b2] 6d 45 17 27 00 06 0b 71 
79 b3 d6 35 a1 4d c5 7a 95 dc

Re: Remove an "Always Trust" permission from OpenJDK/IcedTea Plugin

[Joel Rees]

I don't think I've been much help.

> Hi,
>
> Am Freitag, den 22.04.2011, 21:19 +0900 schrieb Joel Rees:
>> You say options, does that mean you did or did not find the browser
>> certificate store dialog?
>
> I did find it, but the trusted certificate was not in the list.  I think
> it is being added at another place.  But I was unable to locate it.
>
>> > Therefore I think that the certificate is marked trusted by OpenJDK.
>> > But I'm unable to find the default keystore.
>>
>> Have you tried installing the openJDK Policy Tool (GUI) and/or
>> Monitoring and Management Console (JConsole)?
>
> Yes, but it did not help me to find the certificate store location.

That's awkward.

>> > It should be possible to add and remove trusted certificates with the
>> > keytool command, but I have to specify the keystore.
>> >
>> > Any idea where OpenJDK might have it's default keystore?
>> > Or am I looking the wrong way at that problem?
>>
>> I think the policy tool can tell you what it's using. Then again, I
>> thnk the command line policy tool should use the default if it's going
>> to use the default.
>
> I also thought so, but it requires you to specify a key store location.
> This differs to what I found in the documentation of the oracle keytool.

hmmm

> | Keystore Location
> |
> |    Each keytool command has a -keystore option for specifying the name
> | and location of the persistent keystore file for the keystore managed
> | by keytool. The keystore is by default stored in a file
> | named .keystore in the user's home directory, as determined by the
> | "user.home" system property. Given user name uName, the "user.home"
> | property value defaults to
> |
> |    C:\Winnt\Profiles\uName on multi-user Windows NT systems
> |    C:\Windows\Profiles\uName on multi-user Windows 95 systems
> |    C:\Windows on single-user Windows 95 systems
> |
> |    Thus, if the user name is "cathy", "user.home" defaults to
> |
> |    C:\Winnt\Profiles\cathy on multi-user Windows NT systems
> |    C:\Windows\Profiles\cathy on multi-user Windows 95 systems

Well, that's a nice MSWindows-specific bit of help. :-(

> Source:
> http://download.oracle.com/javase/1.4.2/docs/tooldocs/windows/keytool.html

Yeah, MSWindows-specific. I wonder if there is a similar page for
Linux. (Oracle isn't very helpful for free.)

> I do not have a .keystore file though.  Using `find . -name *keystore*`
> will only give me gnome keyring's keystore, which does not hold the
> certificate either.

I'm thinking they've hidden all that stuff in a database sort of file.
In the .mozilla directory. Except that would be what the browser shows
you when you check the browser's certificate list.

> Just gave it a try and switched to oracles JRE.  That one asked me again
> if I want to trust the certificate.  Seems that OpenJDK and SUN/Oracle
> JRE do not share the same keystore.  Unless it got purged during the
> uninstall.

Gone with the purge is a possibility.

> But still I'm not sure how to undo an "Always Trust" option with oracles
> JRE or OpenJDK.  Probably these options are not meant to be undone :-)

Well, yeah, TBH, the general appoach is to revoke the certificate,
rather than remove it. That puts an entry in the revocation list and
prevents a bad certificate from being accepted blindly again.

Again, sorry I'm not much help.


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Dovecot Problems on Sid

[David Baron]

Updating to the Sid version was a catastrophe--flagged all kinds of superseded 
syntax warning which were flagged as errors when I tried to edit them into the 
conf file. Commented out, got listening errors for various 9## ports.

So I downgraded to the testing version and used a backed up conf file.

No startup errors, dmesg, nothing, but "localhost refuses connection" when 
trying to access imap on the system. From outside, "server not found."

Nothing like this is listed in the bugs. Has anyone encountered such problems, 
fix them?

Re: Video card with many output (VGA, DVI, SVIDEO)

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 29 Apr 2011 11:05:16 +, Alex PADOLY wrote:

>  On Debian GNU Linux, I would like to know if all the ouput is active
>  imultaneously or if you must choose the output will be active? Regards.

All the outputs should be active/available by default but only connected 
devices will be detected and configurated.

Greetings,

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Video card with many output (VGA, DVI, SVIDEO)

[Alex PADOLY]

Hi,

 On Debian GNU Linux, I would like to know if all the ouput is active 
imultaneously or if you must choose the output will be active?
 Regards.

 Alex

Re: specific kernel configuration for graphic card driver

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

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> Anyway that was just off the top of my head, you will getter better
> instructions from an official source.

Which is...

http://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary

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Re: specific kernel configuration for graphic card driver

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

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On 04/28/2011 09:05 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 28 Apr 2011 22:42:02 +0800, lina wrote:
>
>> what's the specification for the
>>
>> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: ATI Technologies Inc NI
>> Whistler [AMD Radeon HD 6600M Series] [1002:6741]
>
> Lina,
>
> What's the specific problem you are facing with that card?
>
> If it's not working at all or loads a generic driver (fbdev/vesa) instead
> the radeon one, maybe is becasue the chipset is too new that still lacks
> for support even in the Xorg upstream project.
>
> The more data you can provide about your problem, the better for people
> here can help you :-)
>
> Greetings,
>

What do you mean by kernel specification? I'm no expert, but I doubt you
have to build a custom kernel.

If you don't have a problem with non-free software, have you tried the
fglrx driver?

$ sudo aptitude install module-assistant
$ sudo m-a a-i fglrx

You will prompted to install some required package (kernel headers etc.)
and if all goes well - it should - the fglrx kernel module will be
installed.

Now all you have to do is configure Xorg to use it.

$ sudo Xorg -configure
$ sudo vim /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "Device"
...
Identifier  "Card0"
Driver  "fglrx"
...
EndSection

If the above hasn't installed it, also install the fglrx-glx package.

$ sudo aptitude install fglrx-glx

Now restart the X server.

Anyway that was just off the top of my head, you will getter better
instructions from an official source.

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Re: xmodmap per application

[Panayiotis Karabassis]

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On 04/29/2011 12:37 AM, Siard wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
>> Can xmodmap detect the application is being run and act accordingly?
> 
> I could only think of writing a script like this:
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> xmodmap -e 'keycode 60 = F' & /usr/bin/; xmodmap -e 'keycode 60 
> = period'
> 
> While the application is running, the '.' key produces an F;
> after quitting the application, things are back to normal.

Do we have any way of detecting "on focus" events?

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Re: Why doesn't debian remove the proprietary software from it's servers?

[sdc]

Now I understand. Thank you all who replied for being so helpful and taking
your time to explain this to me,

Re: xmodmap per application

[Andrei Popescu]

On Jo, 28 apr 11, 23:37:00, Siard wrote:
> Camaleón wrote:
> > Can xmodmap detect the application is being run and act accordingly?
> 
> I could only think of writing a script like this:
> 
> #! /bin/sh
> xmodmap -e 'keycode 60 = F' & /usr/bin/; xmodmap -e 'keycode 60 
> = period'
> 
> While the application is running, the '.' key produces an F;
> after quitting the application, things are back to normal.

That works if one doesn't Alt+Tab to another application.

Regards,
Andrei
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