Re: how do I create a kdm login for non-desktop user

2011-07-23 Thread Mark Charles
 On 22/07/11 22:22, Jari Fredriksson wrote:
 22.7.2011 14:35, Mark Charles kirjoitti:
 For remote maintenance I want to add a default user called
 fixme with no password to the system.

 If the remote user has problems with their computer they should be able
 to press Enter and fixme will login and run a script connecting the
 machine to the internet and send me the IP address in an email.

 You'll want to use curl or such to scrape the IP from a web page after
 connecting - which would require running as root...
 If the remote user is behind a firewall, ifconfig may not get you the
 info you need anyway.

This exactly what I want thankyou!



 - Set the shell for fixme to your script.

 Which won't run the script..

 snipped
 I am working on something similar - hence the script, please post your
 success here.

 Cheers

I will. likely do what you suggest

Many thanks - sorry if this reply is bad. Not at my computer so had to use 
Yahoo webmail :-(

PS Small world, I think you built my friends computer
can I email you some questions?



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Re: Postfix and virtual_transport = maildrop

2011-07-23 Thread Andrea Ganduglia
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 5:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 11:03:25 +0200, Andrea Ganduglia wrote:

 I have a Debian-box well configured with
 Postfix+saslauthd+dovecot+spamassassin. Mail accounts are virtual, with
 password stored into MySQL and messages store into /home/vmail.

 I would like introduce maildrop in delivery chain, basically for move
 spam messages into proper .Junk account folder, but it's not so easy as
 I expected.

 (...)

 Yes, as Darac has suggested, use sieve for filter messages.

 It works very well (at least with Cyrus imap server that's what I use,
 but Dovecot should be similar) and is very easy to setup once you know
 how it works. Besides, there are also tools for users to manage their own
 filter rules at server side.

Thanks! I read something around and it should be works. I'll try and I
will know soon. Thanks.


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why didn't /etc/nethack/nethackrc.console install?

2011-07-23 Thread Jude DaShiell
Script started on Sat 23 Jul 2011 07:11:38 AM EDT
jude@md:~$ ls /etc/net-al /etc/nethack/
total 9
drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 1024 Jul 23 07:09 .
drwxr-xr-x 120 root root 7168 Jul 23 07:09 ..
-rw---   1 root root   33 Jul 23 07:09 hearse.user-token
jude@md:~$ nethack
Access to /etc/nethack/nethackrc.console denied (2).

Hit return to continue: 
NetHack, Copyright 1985-2003 By Stichting 
Mathematisch Centrum and M. Stephenson. See license for 
details.
Restoring save 
file...--More--#-#---#||..|#|.||...||..|#|.-#|...||...#|.|#-...|-|--#..|---.-###|`|#-.-#####--.--||.f@|--|...-#|...|-#.[...+--Jude
 the Evoker   St:10 Dx:13 Co:11 In:17 Wi:13 Ch:11  
NeutralDlvl:1  $:76 HP:Dlvl:1  $:76 HP:7(12) Pw:8(8) AC:9  
Exp:1Hello jude, the human Wizard, welcome back to 
NetHack!Really save? [yn] (n) 
ySaving...
Be seeing you...
jude@md:~$ exit
exit

Script done on Sat 23 Jul 2011 07:12:58 AM EDT



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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Johannes Fichtinger
Hi Victor

Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2011 schrieb Victor Munoz:

 Today, I lost the ability to synchronize between two machines, one had
 lenny until today morning, and the other was sid. I was using
 apt-pinning to keep both unison versions compatible.
 
 Yesterday night I was able to sync both machines for the last time.
 Then, today morning, I was not. It connects to the server, it
 recognizes the changes, and it offers me all the changes for approval.
 Then, when it has to start copying, it just waits for ever, and no
 progress is done.

From yesterday morning on I see exactly the same problem on my machine. I am 
running latest SID here. On another machine with SID updated the last time one 
week ago running unison 2.32.52-3+b1 unison works perfectly.

Johannes


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Re: IDT High Definition Audio Codec soundcard

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 23:10:58 +0200, Andreas Berglund wrote:

 On 2011-07-22 17:35, Camaleón wrote:

 IDT is a very generic Sigma chipset. You will have to dig a bit into
 your system to find out more information about the codec it uses. For
 instance, give us the output of:

 cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec aplay -L
 lspci -nn | grep -i audio



 Thanks for the help, I've attached the output of those commands
 
 result of cat /proc/asound/card0/codec#* | grep Codec
 
 Codec: IDT ID 76c7

(...)

Mmm, that looks like a new sound codec or at least I've never seen that 
before. 

Have you tried with the usual things (alsamixer/gnome applet volume 
control) to configure the Intel card? Ensure you are using the Intel card 
because you also have a secondary one, coming from nvidia HDMI (cat /
proc/asound/cards will tell what's the default).

I could only found an Ubuntu bug for a similar card/chipset:

***
[IDT ID 76e7] Dell Latitude E5520 - No sound through internal speakers, 
sound is only from headphones output with Ubuntu 10.04.2 and 10.10 - 
update Lucid ALSA LBM to latest release (1.0.24) 

https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/792233
***

The bug points to the latest ALSA version but I'm not sure if that will 
solve your audio problem. To avoid messing up things, I would first try 
to load a LiveCD with the latest ALSA version (1.0.24) and see if that 
works. If yes, then consider upgrading ALSA for your Squeeze install.

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 01:36:33PM +0200, Johannes Fichtinger wrote:
 Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2011 schrieb Victor Munoz:
 
  Today, I lost the ability to synchronize between two machines, one had
  lenny until today morning, and the other was sid. I was using
  apt-pinning to keep both unison versions compatible.
  
  Yesterday night I was able to sync both machines for the last time.
  Then, today morning, I was not. It connects to the server, it
  recognizes the changes, and it offers me all the changes for approval.
  Then, when it has to start copying, it just waits for ever, and no
  progress is done.
 
 From yesterday morning on I see exactly the same problem on my machine. I am 
 running latest SID here. On another machine with SID updated the last time 
 one 
 week ago running unison 2.32.52-3+b1 unison works perfectly.

I use unison several times a day to sync over 100GiB of data.
I see it stall quite frequently.  I think it's a bug in unison,
possibly timing related.  I see it only when syncing over the
internet on a DSL connection, not over a LAN.

Note that sometimes it /does/ come back--you just have to wait,
possibly several tens of minutes.  This can happen if you have
changed a big (multi-GiB in size) file, and it wants to reconcile
the changes.  But it can appear to be stuck.

I have on occasion had to resort to deleting the cache/index files
in ~/.unison/(arb|frp)* and getting it to rebuild them from scratch
on both the client and server.

Note that version 2.40.61 (not in Debian) fixes quite a few of these
problems, but is still not perfect.  But if you have the time to
build it, it's a big improvement.  The build scripts are slightly
buggy though--it took me a while to work out and fix!


Regards,
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Re: problem with ISA SB 16

2011-07-23 Thread Long Wind
To Ivan:

        What's in /dev/sndstat?

Use the ls command? It shows it's linked to a file in /proc


To Camaleón:

Thanks! You always offer help when I seek help.
The card is correctly installed, so MS Windows and etch can use it.
The problem is with lenny.
I will install a PCI sound card, it's easy
Thanks anyway!


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Re: Download Debian live CD testing?

2011-07-23 Thread news
opts! , sorry,  pardon me, please apologise myself ,excuse me, disculpe yo 
for the non bis in idem
 of last day , maybe
found something maybe useful (some said interesting) :
http://live.debian.net/

with my best
mr thuillier-charmet
23-07-2011




 Hi,

 a colleague just asked where they can download Debian
 Live CD for testing/wheezy. Do they exist? TIA.

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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread Tixy
On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 15:44 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:52:45 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 
  What software would you recommend to backup a Debian system on a
  stand-alone computer?
 
 tar + compression

tar + compression + encryption :-)

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Gilbert Sullivan

On 07/23/2011 07:36 AM, Johannes Fichtinger wrote:

Hi Victor

Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2011 schrieb Victor Munoz:


Today, I lost the ability to synchronize between two machines, one had
lenny until today morning, and the other was sid. I was using
apt-pinning to keep both unison versions compatible.

Yesterday night I was able to sync both machines for the last time.
Then, today morning, I was not. It connects to the server, it
recognizes the changes, and it offers me all the changes for approval.
Then, when it has to start copying, it just waits for ever, and no
progress is done.


 From yesterday morning on I see exactly the same problem on my machine. I am
running latest SID here. On another machine with SID updated the last time one
week ago running unison 2.32.52-3+b1 unison works perfectly.

Johannes




Hmmm. I'm going to add what will probably just be noise, but thought my 
situation just might be worth mentioning.


I run Debian testing on four workstations. I use aptitude to upgrade all 
of them every day around 11:00-12:00 UTC. I also use unison-gtk to 
synchronize data among them.


Yesterday following the updates I temporarily lost ability to 
synchronize two of these systems using unison-gtk 2.32.52-3+.


Here's where the water gets much muddier.

I rebooted the two troublesome systems. That was no help at all. In 
fact, I lost my ability to connect to the network with both of those 
systems. The tray icon (I use wicd.) and ifconfig indicated that I had a 
connected state with the correct IPs, but I couldn't hit my gateway with 
either of these two systems.


I had the two of these systems which travel amongst various networks set 
to use ICMP filtering (including ping and pong). Guess which ones were 
having trouble.


I changed the ICMP filtering to allow ping and pong, and everything 
started working -- the network connection and unison-gtk.


In reviewing /var/log/aptitude I notice that the only dependency of 
unison-gtk that was upgraded in the past couple of days was libc6 
(2.13-7 - 2.13-10), and that was during yesterday's upgrade session -- 
just before the trouble started.


I have not bothered to re-instate ICMP filtering to its previous state 
of refusing ping and pong because -- a) I'm lazy, and b) its paranoid 
and silly and probably not good network etiquette for a network I've 
been given permission to visit. (I'm a consultant there.)


What I'm reporting here is obviously not an exact match to the 
situations you (Victor and Johannes) are reporting. Victor specifically 
said he's not using any iptables rules, and I'm assuming Johannes would 
have mentioned any significant variation from that. Victor saw some more 
general network misbehavior, but Johannes didn't report any such issue. 
Of course, we're all using different versions of Debian.


I'm only sending this because I found the confluence of similar 
behaviors on three (four?) different versions of Debian at exactly the 
same time period to be interesting. I thought there might be a 
peripheral -- if not a central -- connection here.


Best regards,
Gilbert


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Re: rsync backup question

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info writes:

 I partitioned a 1 TG usbdrive as ext3, mounted it as /usbmem
 [...]

 My object had been to backup everything before moving from Squeeze to
 Wheezy

 Any Suggestions?

There isn't much point in using rsync since you're neither copying to a
remote host, nor can you save time by copying only modified files
because it's the first and probably only copy.

Depending on what you're planning to do with the backup, tar would be a
good choice, and cp -ax works very well, too; just watch out for
lost+find directories when using cp.  If you want a backup that can
easily be restored to a bootable system, you're probably much better off
creating a CD or DVD you can boot from and that includes a program to
backup partitions to files and to restore them from files.


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limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Hi,

what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to
a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail
doesn't seem to exist anymore.


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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Randy Kramer
On Saturday 23 July 2011 08:25:10 am Roger Leigh wrote:
 I use unison several times a day to sync over 100GiB of data.
 I see it stall quite frequently.  I think it's a bug in unison,
 possibly timing related.  I see it only when syncing over the
 internet on a DSL connection, not over a LAN.

Don't know if this helps, but if unison uses rsync (which, iirc, someone 
mentioned it does), you should be aware that rsync has quite a bit 
of overhead (in some sense) to determine exactly which pieces of a 
file are different and then transmits only those.  

So, again, iirc, it does calculations both at the rsync server and the 
rsync client to get checksums (not quite the word I'm looking for, 
but close) of pieces of the file on both ends, then exchanges those 
checksums to see where differences exist, then exchanges the necessary 
pieces of the file, and finally reassembles the file.

With very large files, it is not surprising to see the link quiet for 
periods of time while calculations are being done at each end.

(I once read the academic thesis that the author of rsync wrote about 
the rsync algorithm--I don't accurately remember the details, but what 
I wrote above gives the general idea.)

Randy Kramer


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Re: 6rd vs. interfaces(5)

2011-07-23 Thread Johan Kullstam
Ivan Shmakov i...@gray.siamics.net writes:

 Rick Thomas rbtho...@pobox.com writes:
 On Jul 21, 2011, at 3:29 AM, Ivan Shmakov wrote:

 […]

   And in the case of NAT'ed IPv4, it's still possible to register for
   a free-of-charge tunnel service at http://sixxs.net/ and use AICCU
   (# apt-get install aiccu.)

   This (SIXXS) is what I use at home.  It works a treat for me.  Easy
   to set up. Easy to use. Fully connected to the IPv6 internet.

   One of the ISP's here has finally started to offer IPv6, namely:
   6to4 (AIUI, they run their own gateway for that) and 6rd.

   Unfortunately, 6rd is only available for Linux 2.6.33 and later
   (as per Wikipedia), which isn't in Squeeze.

It is actually pretty easy to compile and use your own kernel.  Perhaps
surprisingly, the kernel interface is pretty stable and you do not need
to upgrade the rest of your world (unlike, say upgrading an important
shared library).

   But anyway, is there a way to add a 6rd tunnel to interfaces(5)?

   TIA.

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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:09:20 +0200, lee wrote:

 what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to
 a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail
 doesn't seem to exist anymore.

I use a custom script for that task that basically uses split (to cut 
the attachment in small chunks at the desired size) and mutt (to send 
it to the recipient).

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Re: problem with ISA SB 16

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 20:49:51 +0800, Long Wind wrote:

 To Camaleón:
 
 Thanks! You always offer help when I seek help. The card is correctly
 installed, so MS Windows and etch can use it. The problem is with lenny.
 I will install a PCI sound card, it's easy Thanks anyway!

ISA cards need to be properly initilized to be used and windows is not 
linux (meaning that windows could be doing this automatically but you 
still need to manually setup in your linux box) :-)

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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:10:34 +0100, Tixy wrote:

 On Fri, 2011-07-22 at 15:44 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 23:52:45 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg wrote:
 
  What software would you recommend to backup a Debian system on a
  stand-alone computer?
 
 tar + compression
 
 tar + compression + encryption :-)

Encryption at hardware level, that's okay.

Encryption at software level adds an extra layer of incompatiblity I 
prefer to avoid for backups.

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[OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

Since about 6 months I have an Asus M4N98TD EVO mobo. Very satisfied 
with it.


It has a feature on its BIOS that got me stumped.

BIOS has a Power Menu that has a submenu of APM configuration.

APM configuration has an item Power On by PS/2 Keyboard that I had set 
to space bar. But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a 
new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not 
the keyboard.


So I disabled that feature.

Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2 Keyboard 
is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar 
twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.


Anyone venture an explanation?

Thanks.

Hugo


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Re: Daisy/MP3 player

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com writes:

 I am wanting to mount a Daisy/MP3** player as a block device to get access to 
 the files on it.  dmesg* lists it, but I am not succeeding in finding its 
 device name.

fdisk -luc


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Re: problem that ext3 not recognized on 4G usb external drive freshly formated. only ext2

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Mitchell Laks ml...@post.harvard.edu writes:

 Rashi:/home/mlaks# fdisk /dev/sdd

Better use fdisk -luc as suggested in the warning.

 Rashi:/home/mlaks# mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdd1

mkfs -t ext3 ...

 Rashi:/home/mlaks# mount -t ext2 /dev/sdd1 /mnt

What do you expect when you explicitly mount the FS as ext2?


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Re: GPU hang EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop

2011-07-23 Thread lee
José Silva jsantossi...@hotmail.com writes:

 On 22/07/11 10:41, lee wrote:
 there. Furthermore, I looked at
 https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/Freeze which says that a
 backtrace on Xorg.0.log is a non-symptom because this isn't an X
 crash. So, I guess the debugging xserver won't give any results.

 So, I guess the only thing that could give us information is
 intel_gpu_dump which I'm still not able to launch. Any idea how to do
 it?

Hm, I can imagine that intel_gpu_dump tries to load (i. e. mmap() )some
file which isn't there because the X server didn't crash and thus gives
you the error message that it cannot mmap() a file that doesn't exist.

 Anyway, I had already reported the bug as #635039 but I wanted give
 some more information, which I still can't.

You're saying in [1] that you have disabled GPUs to save power.  Is the
problem still there when don't disable the GPUs?


[1]: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=635039#15


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Re: IDT High Definition Audio Codec soundcard

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Andreas Berglund andreas.bergl...@home.se writes:

 result of aplay -L

Did you turn up the volume with alsamixer?


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Re: why didn't /etc/nethack/nethackrc.console install?

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Jude DaShiell jdash...@shellworld.net writes:

 Script started on Sat 23 Jul 2011 07:11:38 AM EDT
 [...]

see http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:

 Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2
 Keyboard is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
 space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
 disappeared.

Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...


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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 Encryption at software level adds an extra layer of incompatiblity I 
 prefer to avoid for backups.

What is incompatible about creating an archive with tar and then
encrypting it with gpg?


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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:09:20 +0200, lee wrote:

 what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to
 a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail
 doesn't seem to exist anymore.

 I use a custom script for that task that basically uses split (to cut 
 the attachment in small chunks at the desired size) and mutt (to send 
 it to the recipient).

Yeah, that's what I thought of doing if there isn't a better option.
How do you handle the mime stuff in your script so that the recipient
can extract the file from the many messages easily?


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:20:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)

 APM configuration has an item Power On by PS/2 Keyboard that I had set
 to space bar. But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a
 new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not
 the keyboard.
 
 So I disabled that feature.
 
 Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2 Keyboard
 is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar
 twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.
 
 Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you 
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension nor 
hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or any 
key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Victor Munoz
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 01:36:33PM +0200, Johannes Fichtinger wrote:
 Hi Victor
 
 Am Samstag, 23. Juli 2011 schrieb Victor Munoz:
 
  Today, I lost the ability to synchronize between two machines, one had
  lenny until today morning, and the other was sid. I was using
  apt-pinning to keep both unison versions compatible.
  
  Yesterday night I was able to sync both machines for the last time.
  Then, today morning, I was not. It connects to the server, it
  recognizes the changes, and it offers me all the changes for approval.
  Then, when it has to start copying, it just waits for ever, and no
  progress is done.
 
 From yesterday morning on I see exactly the same problem on my machine. I am 
 running latest SID here. On another machine with SID updated the last time 
 one 
 week ago running unison 2.32.52-3+b1 unison works perfectly.
 

At least I'm not the only one... 

Victor


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Re: /run pointing to /var/run instead of the opposite

2011-07-23 Thread Alejandro Exojo
El Viernes, 22 de Julio de 2011, Sven Joachim escribió:
 On 2011-07-22 16:44 +0200, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
  I'm running Debian unstable, and I have a chroot environment where I have
  another Debian unstable installation. Today I've updated the chroot
  environment because it was very dated, and I've noticed that /run is a
  symbolic link pointing to /var/run, instead of the other way round:
  
  In the chroot:
  $ file /run /var/run/
  /run:  symbolic link to `/var/run'
  /var/run/: directory
  
  In the true system:
  $ file /run/ /var/run
  /run/:directory
  /var/run: symbolic link to `/run'
  
  I think I can do the changes myself by hand, but I wonder if it will be
  appropriate (maybe is that way for a reason), or if I have hit a bug that
  I should report.
 
 This is intentional, read the sysvinit 2.88dsf-13.3 changelog entry for
 explanations.

Ah, nice, it is explained very well there. I looked at the base-files changelog 
only.
 
  I need to change it because I need an application in the chroot to
  connect to CUPS from outside the chroot, and this is done through a
  socket on (/var)/run/cups. And schroot can't do the bind mount if the
  chroot /run is a link.
 
 I guess you need to do the changes yourself then.  Note that the problem
 does not exist in freshly debootstrapped chroots.

Ok, since my chroot isn't very used I will probably start from an empty 
installation.

Thank you very much!

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Victor Munoz
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 01:25:10PM +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
 
 I use unison several times a day to sync over 100GiB of data.
 I see it stall quite frequently.  I think it's a bug in unison,
 possibly timing related.  I see it only when syncing over the
 internet on a DSL connection, not over a LAN.

I have a lot of files being mirrored, but in this particular case there
is no big file involved, and it's only a few files, about 20.

 
 Note that sometimes it /does/ come back--you just have to wait,
 possibly several tens of minutes.  This can happen if you have
 changed a big (multi-GiB in size) file, and it wants to reconcile
 the changes.  But it can appear to be stuck.

I thought so, but at least one time I tried letting it go, and it
finally exited with a 'lost connection to server' message. 

 
 I have on occasion had to resort to deleting the cache/index files
 in ~/.unison/(arb|frp)* and getting it to rebuild them from scratch
 on both the client and server.

 Note that version 2.40.61 (not in Debian) fixes quite a few of these
 problems, but is still not perfect.  But if you have the time to
 build it, it's a big improvement.  The build scripts are slightly
 buggy though--it took me a while to work out and fix!
 

Mm, I guess I will have to consider this. Deleting the cache would
take a while given the number of files involved by now, but anyway,
maybe I should try.

Victor


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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:18:35 +0200, lee wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
 
 On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:09:20 +0200, lee wrote:

 what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited
 to a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this ---
 metamail doesn't seem to exist anymore.

 I use a custom script for that task that basically uses split (to cut
 the attachment in small chunks at the desired size) and mutt (to send
 it to the recipient).
 
 Yeah, that's what I thought of doing if there isn't a better option. How
 do you handle the mime stuff in your script so that the recipient can
 extract the file from the many messages easily?

That's up to the recipient and his MUA :-)

I know there is at least one add-on for Thunderbird (AttachmentExtractor) 
to mass-extract attachments for the selected messages, though.

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Victor Munoz
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:21:22AM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote:
 On Saturday 23 July 2011 08:25:10 am Roger Leigh wrote:
  I use unison several times a day to sync over 100GiB of data.
  I see it stall quite frequently.  I think it's a bug in unison,
  possibly timing related.  I see it only when syncing over the
  internet on a DSL connection, not over a LAN.
 
 Don't know if this helps, but if unison uses rsync (which, iirc, someone 
 mentioned it does), you should be aware that rsync has quite a bit 
 of overhead (in some sense) to determine exactly which pieces of a 
 file are different and then transmits only those.  
 
 So, again, iirc, it does calculations both at the rsync server and the 
 rsync client to get checksums (not quite the word I'm looking for, 
 but close) of pieces of the file on both ends, then exchanges those 
 checksums to see where differences exist, then exchanges the necessary 
 pieces of the file, and finally reassembles the file.
 
 With very large files, it is not surprising to see the link quiet for 
 periods of time while calculations are being done at each end.
 
 (I once read the academic thesis that the author of rsync wrote about 
 the rsync algorithm--I don't accurately remember the details, but what 
 I wrote above gives the general idea.)
 

In this case, there are no big files or many files involved, so it
doesn't seem to be the problem.

Victor


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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:08:48 +0200, lee wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Encryption at software level adds an extra layer of incompatiblity I
 prefer to avoid for backups.
 
 What is incompatible about creating an archive with tar and then
 encrypting it with gpg?

Nothing... unless you have to extract the backup files on Windows, MacOS, 
another non-linux system or simply in a computer that has not installed 
the required program to cope with GPG for decrypting.

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Victor Munoz
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:10:12AM -0400, Gilbert Sullivan wrote:
 
 In reviewing /var/log/aptitude I notice that the only dependency of
 unison-gtk that was upgraded in the past couple of days was libc6
 (2.13-7 - 2.13-10), and that was during yesterday's upgrade session
 -- just before the trouble started.
 
 I have not bothered to re-instate ICMP filtering to its previous
 state of refusing ping and pong because -- a) I'm lazy, and b) its
 paranoid and silly and probably not good network etiquette for a
 network I've been given permission to visit. (I'm a consultant
 there.)
 
 What I'm reporting here is obviously not an exact match to the
 situations you (Victor and Johannes) are reporting. Victor
 specifically said he's not using any iptables rules, and I'm
 assuming Johannes would have mentioned any significant variation
 from that. Victor saw some more general network misbehavior, but
 Johannes didn't report any such issue. Of course, we're all using
 different versions of Debian.
 
 I'm only sending this because I found the confluence of similar
 behaviors on three (four?) different versions of Debian at exactly
 the same time period to be interesting. I thought there might be a
 peripheral -- if not a central -- connection here.
 

Yes, it's interesting what you mention. 

I've also thought that this is not specifically related to unison, so
I'm trying to update the sid machine, in case magic happens and some
relevant package is fixed. Unfortunately, I hadn't updated in a while,
and solving a few dependencies is braking other packages, so I have to
do that with care. In fact, last weekend update was complex, and it
was difficult for me to find a clue by checking the logs. 

Victor


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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Victor Munoz
Just noticed that my replies today to this thread went with copy to
the individual posters and the list... Sorry for the duplicate emails. 

Victor


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Re: LaTeX to HTML converters and comments.

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 22 Jul 2011 09:19:47 -0800, peasthope wrote:

 tth converts LaTeX to HTML nicely but strips the comments. The manual
 remarks % Comments. Simply removed.  Can anyone suggest a converter
 which encloses each comment in !--  --?

Just out of curiosity, I have been looking for this and could not find 
any (la)tex to html package -hevea, tex4ht, latex2html...- which 
explicitly says that (la)tex comments will be converted into html tags. 

It seems a bit strange because at first glance it looks like this should 
be a one-to-one setting with no magic behind :-?

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Re: Unison hangs on copy

2011-07-23 Thread Randy Kramer
On Saturday 23 July 2011 11:51:26 am Victor Munoz wrote:
 On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 09:21:22AM -0400, Randy Kramer wrote:
  With very large files, it is not surprising to see the link quiet
  for periods of time while calculations are being done at each end.
 In this case, there are no big files or many files involved, so it
 doesn't seem to be the problem.

Sorry it didn't help. ;-)

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 09:20:22 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

(...)


APM configuration has an item Power On by PS/2 Keyboard that I had set
to space bar. But I was getting errors on my keyboard. So I bought a
new keyboard, which had exactly the same errors, so the problem was not
the keyboard.

So I disabled that feature.

Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2 Keyboard
is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the space bar
twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have disappeared.

Anyone venture an explanation?


You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you 
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension nor 
hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or any 
key?


It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool 
-S'. BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned 
off on the system. Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system 
comes back up. Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition 
that was running and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads 
everything from the swap space and resumes.


I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.

I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version 
windows I have installed.


This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get 
access to a linux O/S that gets you access to the internet and skype. 
I have it disabled and never have tried that.


Hugo


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:


Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2
Keyboard is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
disappeared.


Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...




No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on' 
button of the UPS...


Hugo


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Re: OT: Software that will populate a database from csv data?

2011-07-23 Thread George
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 1:11 PM, Liam O'Toole otoo...@otoole.dyndns.org wrote:
 In gmane.linux.debian.user, you wrote:
 I'm looking for software that will accept as input a csv file and a database
 schema and will populate the database with the data in the csv. I'm not 
 talking
 about something simple that will fill a single table, but rather something 
 that
 can work foreign key constraints and can respect one-to-many, many-to-one and
 many-to-many relations.

 I don't have an answer to your question but I have to ask: how do expect
 to express all of the above in a simple CSV file?

The data will be in the CSV file. The database schema will be needed
as well, along
with a mapping of CSV columns to database table columns.


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Re: OT: Software that will populate a database from csv data?

2011-07-23 Thread George
011/7/22 Stanisław Findeisen s...@eisenbits.com:

 I don't know of any such software but I could write something like this
 for you as a paid assignment. Are you interested?

I've already started working on it, using sqlalchemy to provide an ORM
solution along with it. Thanks for the offer though.


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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi,

lee wrote:

what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to
a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail
doesn't seem to exist anymore.


It would be far better to host files somewhere and send a link or links 
to the hosted files.


Today we have far too many people sending large file attachments, the 
greater the megapixels of cameras the worse it'll get.  And with faster 
Internet connections, we'll see people sending whole movies via email if 
they can.


Limiting the problem, a little, is mailbox quota sizes.  Way too many 
people ignore this issue.


So many fun attachments can be found online, once found online, a 
simple link can be sent in an email. that is the way to go for those 
general, funny videos.


The other thing that many people don't seem to understand, is that 
sending a large binary file as an attachment requires the attachment to 
be encoded back to printable characters -- this can increase the payload 
of an email by 50%.


Do you get the idea that I think sending large attachments are a bad 
idea(tm) ??   It sure is a bad idea!


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Anyone venture an explanation?
 
 You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
 can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
 nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
 any key?
 
 It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?
 
 
 I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
 -S'. 

***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.

 BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
 the system.

Okay.

 Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
 Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
 and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
 swap space and resumes.

It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be only 
done from power button, not from keyboard :-?

 I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.

Yes, and also try to completely shutdown the machine and then press the 
space bar to see what happens. Computer should not start.
 
 I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version
 windows I have installed.

Well, this is a BIOS issue more that a OS problem.

 This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get
 access to a linux O/S that gets you access to the internet and skype.
 I have it disabled and never have tried that.

I fear all of those new settings... I also prefer to keep the old-and-
well-known options for the BIOS that have been working since decades and 
keep the rest disabled :-}

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
any key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
-S'. 


***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.


BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
the system.


Okay.


Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
swap space and resumes.


It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be only 
done from power button, not from keyboard :-?




Right. That's what I thought. I believe that the BIOS Power on from 
Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I 
bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia 
buttons and a power button, which I hit, and... it powered off the 
system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM 
keyboard from 1993.




I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.


Yes, and also try to completely shutdown the machine and then press the 
space bar to see what happens. Computer should not start.
 

I have not asked Asus because I am afraid they will ask what version
windows I have installed.


Well, this is a BIOS issue more that a OS problem.


This mobo has a weird feature: you can select 'express gate' and get
access to a linux O/S that gets you access to the internet and skype.
I have it disabled and never have tried that.


I fear all of those new settings... I also prefer to keep the old-and-
well-known options for the BIOS that have been working since decades and 
keep the rest disabled :-}




To make it worse, you have to use MS windows to download the Linux O/S 
for that Express Gate option.


Hugo







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Re: GPU hang EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop

2011-07-23 Thread José Silva

On 23/07/11 15:12, lee wrote:

Hm, I can imagine that intel_gpu_dump tries to load (i. e. mmap() )some
file which isn't there because the X server didn't crash and thus gives
you the error message that it cannot mmap() a file that doesn't exist.


Thank you for helping.


You're saying in [1] that you have disabled GPUs to save power.  Is the
problem still there when don't disable the GPUs?

Obviously I only disabled the nvidia GPU, left the intel operating, 
which can be checked by unplugging the AC adapter and checking around 23 
Watt battery draining with nvidia ON, and about 13 Watt turning it off 
with acpi_call module.


Ok, so I remove the module, even renamed the file just to be sure, 
reboot, checked battery drain just to be sure and triggered the freeze, 
which happened again. Connected by ssh and checked Xorg.0.log which had 
a backtrace, which doesn't always happen. I was then preparing to do the 
gpu_dump when I noticed that I had forgot to mount debugfs.


So, cycled the whole thing again, mounted debugfs and this time the log 
didn't have a backtrace and doesn't do gpu_dump.


Apparently, acpi_call doesn't contribute to the freeze, do you agree?
Hope you have more ideas.
rgds
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Re: pppoeconf can't find new Verizon DSL modem

2011-07-23 Thread Thomas H. George
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 04:28:25PM +0530, Mahesh T Pai wrote:
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
 
 
   Maybe you only need to set the new modem with the same parameters (local 
   IP address -or dhcp- settings, username/pass, etc...) of the old one.
 
   Also, review pppoeconf logs.
 
 That configures the modem as a router. 

I don't want to configure the modem as a router.  The man page for
pppoeconf says it is just a user friendly program to set up pppoe.

My problem is that pppoeconf cannot find the access accumulator (the dsl
modem).  The ppp-connect-errors log is full of Waiting for PADQ packet
lines.

I have studied the DSL-HOWTO (dated?) and the pppoe man page and am not
much wiser.

For the present the old modem is working fine and I must wait until
Monday when the rest of the family is at work so I am free to bring the
system down and experiment with the new modem.

 The public IP address is
 acquired by the modem. (I would rather call this thingie a device
 which can be used both as a modem and a router).
 
 While I use this set up, I hate this to the extreme. My net security is
 trusted to the unknown OS on the unknown device.
 
 The OP wants to configure the device as modem proper. That way, the
 public IP address is acquired by the machine running pppoe.
 
 
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 You won't live long enough to make all of them yourself.
 
 
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no recent Squeeze updates

2011-07-23 Thread Marty
I have not gotten any package updates, including security upgrades, in 
any of my Squeeze systems for at least two weeks.  In my experience this 
is unprecedented.  I have not changed my apt config or sources.list.  Is 
there a change in the update policy?



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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:18:35 +0200, lee wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Yeah, that's what I thought of doing if there isn't a better option. How
 do you handle the mime stuff in your script so that the recipient can
 extract the file from the many messages easily?

 That's up to the recipient and his MUA :-)

What do you do on the sending side?  Send the parts as attachments as if
they were complete files rather than parts?


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:

 lee wrote:
 Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:

 Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2
 Keyboard is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
 space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
 disappeared.

 Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
 runs over the keyboard ...



 No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on'
 button of the UPS...

What's Mechas?

So everyone who uses this mainboard needs an UPS with an On button
that is hard to press ...  Is the UPS included then?


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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:

 Hi,

 lee wrote:
 what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to
 a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail
 doesn't seem to exist anymore.

 It would be far better to host files somewhere and send a link or
 links to the hosted files.

No, it won't.

 Today we have far too many people sending large file attachments, the
 greater the megapixels of cameras the worse it'll get.  And with
 faster Internet connections, we'll see people sending whole movies via
 email if they can.

What's the point of having good internet connections when you can't use
them?  Making your files publicly available by uploading them somewhere
or by setting up your own web server may not be what you want.

What's going to happen when you send URLs instead of files?  The
recipients may switch to their web browser /if/ they are sufficiently
interested and look at the files.  I usually don't do that; when someone
wants to tell or to show me something, they should put it right into the
email so that's easy for me to see.  Then they might want to save the
files, which might involve downloading them again, thus doubling the
amount of data that needs to be transferred.  Or they don't save them
and download them again and again each time they need the files (like
look at your pictures), thus multiplying the amount of data that needs
to be transferred.

At some time, you eventually don't run the web server anymore or don't
have the files accessible anymore and the recipients can't see them
anymore if they didn't save them.  This can be an advantage if you want
it to be that way, and it's a disadvantage when you don't.  Why make it
so complicated?  It's totally pointless.

 Limiting the problem, a little, is mailbox quota sizes.

Which problem?  Tight quota limits suck and make an email account
unusable.


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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread lee
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 17:08:48 +0200, lee wrote:

 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:
 
 Encryption at software level adds an extra layer of incompatiblity I
 prefer to avoid for backups.
 
 What is incompatible about creating an archive with tar and then
 encrypting it with gpg?

 Nothing... unless you have to extract the backup files on Windows, MacOS, 
 another non-linux system

Are you saying that when I encrypt a file with gpg on one computer, it's
impossible to decrypt it on another one?

 or simply in a computer that has not installed the required program to
 cope with GPG for decrypting.

Gpg is one of the basic programs that should be installed.  If it isn't,
it doesn't hurt to install it.  You can say the same for tar or file
systems ...


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Re: GPU hang EQ overflowing. The server is probably stuck in an infinite loop

2011-07-23 Thread lee
José Silva jsantossi...@hotmail.com writes:

 On 23/07/11 15:12, lee wrote:
 You're saying in [1] that you have disabled GPUs to save power.  Is the
 problem still there when don't disable the GPUs?

 Obviously I only disabled the nvidia GPU,
 [...]

 Ok, so I remove the module, even renamed the file just to be sure,
 reboot, checked battery drain just to be sure and triggered the
 freeze, which happened again.
 [...]

 Apparently, acpi_call doesn't contribute to the freeze, do you agree?

Yes, since the freeze occurs no matter whether the GPUs are disabled or
not, it doesn't seem likely that it has anything to do with the disabling.

 Hope you have more ideas.

Well, you could check the sources of the driver to see if you can find
out what's going on or try to run the X server in the debugger to get
more information.  Or you wait until the bug is fixed or someone who
knows more has an idea --- or you can use the NVIDIA card instead of the
intel one or you don't do anything that triggers the freeze.


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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 11:18:41 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:


Camaleón wrote:


(...)


Anyone venture an explanation?

You mean that although you have that option turned off in the BIOS you
can still start your computer -from a cold state, not from suspension
nor hibernation- when you hit the space bar? And just the space bar or
any key?

It could be a BIOS problem, then. Have you contacted Asus for this?



I always during the last couple of months power off with 'acpitool
-S'. 


***
-S  suspend (sleep state S4), if supported
***

Then you are not powering off the computer but hibernating.


BIOS Power on by PS/2 Keyboard is disabled. Then power is turned off on
the system.


Okay.


Turn power back on, hit the space bar, and the system comes back up.
Grub-legacy shows its menu and I select the partition that was running
and that has 'resume=LABEL=6Y080P0.05'. That loads everything from the
swap space and resumes.


It looks like you are getting into hibernation instead of performing a 
full power off but anyway, AFAIK restoring from hibernation can be 
only done from power button, not from keyboard :-?




Right. That's what I thought. I believe that the BIOS Power on from 
Keyboard option brought on my keyboard errors. The new keyboard that I 
bought (since returned to the store...)had a multitude of multimedia 
buttons and a power button, which I hit, and... it powered off the 
system. As of yet the keyboard errors have not returned to my IBM 
keyboard from 1993.




I have not tried other keys, but next time around I will.


Hitting any key powers up the system.

Hugo

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Re: [OT] BIOS Power On by PS/2 Keyboard

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:


lee wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom hvw59...@care2.com writes:


Now what has me stumped is that even though Power on by PS/2
Keyboard is disabled, I can still power on the system by hitting the
space bar twice. And it seems that the keyboard errors have
disappeared.

Well, I consider a mainboard that does this as broken.  What if the cat
runs over the keyboard ...



No cat. But there is Mechas. But she has trouble depressing the 'on'
button of the UPS...


What's Mechas?

So everyone who uses this mainboard needs an UPS with an On button
that is hard to press ...  Is the UPS included then?




Mechas is not a 'what', she is a 'who'. I have an UPS to prevent damage 
from power outages which are common here. The UPS is an APC BR700G and 
completely separate from the system with the Asus mobo.


Hugo


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Re: Backup Software

2011-07-23 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

mark wrote:

On Wednesday 20 July 2011 11:52:45 pm Ethan Rosenberg wrote:

Dear List -

What software would you recommend to backup a Debian system on a
stand-alone computer?


I've used mondoarchive for years.  It works and is well supported by 
the author and community.  It is NOT GUI based.  This is a major 
advantage if your system crashes and you can get to a console, but 
not to a gui. (I had that problem a couple of months ago.  
Mondoarchive saved my computer's data and allowed me to restore it.) 
It backs up to CD-R, CD-RW, DVD, USB key/disk, Tape, Net mount or 
hard disk.  It compresses the data and makes your backup media 
bootable (within reason).


It is worth the time.



I second that. I have used mondoarchive for years and it is my tool of 
choice. Very well supported too, although presently without Debian 
Maintainer.


Hugo


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Re: no recent Squeeze updates

2011-07-23 Thread Graham
On Sat, 23 Jul 2011 15:40:34 -0400
Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com wrote:

 I have not gotten any package updates, including security upgrades,
 in any of my Squeeze systems for at least two weeks.  In my
 experience this is unprecedented.  I have not changed my apt config
 or sources.list.  Is there a change in the update policy?

I have to admit that I haven't had an update for a while, but not sure
it's two weeks. I'm subscribed to the security updates for Squeeze, and
the last security fix was for the package opie, which was on the 21st.
Probably like me, you've just got packages installed that haven't had
security fixes recently, which isn't the same as there being no
security updates for Squeeze as a whole.


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Re: ssh: no route to host

2011-07-23 Thread François TOURDE
Le 15177ième jour après Epoch,
Camaleón écrivait:

 No route to host usually means I cannot see the machine at all and I 
 cannot see the machine at all usually involves:

 a) SSH service is not running on the client
 b) IP of the client is unreachable

I don't agree with that.

No route to host means: I or some other router on the road can't find
the hardware associated with the IP given, or the way to reach it.

The reasons are often:

1) machine is power off/unplugged/whatever that involves ARP resolution.
2) the routes (default or other) are pointing to a wrong interface.

Please, OP, could you post the result of the route or ip route
command on the originating machine and the router?

And what kind of router is it?

Try also to send a ping from the destination machine to the
ssh-originating one, and then ssh it again, to see if it changes
something.

Anyway, sending us the results of ifconfig on each peer is also a good
idea.

HTH.


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Re: no recent Squeeze updates

2011-07-23 Thread Liam O'Toole
On 2011-07-23, Marty mar...@ix.netcom.com wrote:
 I have not gotten any package updates, including security upgrades, in 
 any of my Squeeze systems for at least two weeks.  In my experience this 
 is unprecedented.  I have not changed my apt config or sources.list.  Is 
 there a change in the update policy?

A list of recent security advisories is at
http://www.debian.org/security/. You can check which of them apply to
your systems.

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Re: vbox sid invalid mcookie

2011-07-23 Thread Cousin Stanley

Liam O'Toole wrote:

 I think something is broken in the terminal emulator. 
 
 You are able to launch gnome-terminal itself 
 (presumably from the menu or the Alt-F2 dialog), 

  Yes  
 
gnome-terminal  menu // Alt-F2
lxterminal  desktop icon // Alt-F2
xterm . desktop icon // Alt-F2


 but then something within that environment 
 is causing your problem. 

 I suggest you try launching from xterm. 


  xterm  no change, display problem persists

  $ xdpyinfo
unable to open display 0:0

  

  There is no problem launching X applications
  from the gnome menu, desktop icons, or Alt-F2  

  Attempts to launch X apps from either of 3 different
  terminal apps fails 


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Re: pppoeconf can't find new Verizon DSL modem

2011-07-23 Thread Ralf Mardorf

   Forwarded Message 
  From: Thomas H. George li...@tomgeorge.info
  To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
  Subject: Re: pppoeconf can't find new Verizon DSL modem
  Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2011 14:53:46 -0400

I'm a PPPoE user too, we are dinos :(. No issues for my ADSL modem when
using Debian for the Internet, but PPPoE failed here, when I tried to do
the Debian net install. I guess we PPPoE users should think about using
a rooter.


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urlsnarf (dsniff) segfaulting

2011-07-23 Thread Celejar
urlsnarf (from the dsniff package) always segfaults on startup on my
system (uptodate Sid). I reported a bug, but haven't gotten any
response. Anyone else either seeing this, or having a working urlsnarf?
Any suggestions?

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=633926

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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi,

lee wrote:

Andrew McGlashan andrew.mcglas...@affinityvision.com.au writes:
What's the point of having good internet connections when you can't use
them?  Making your files publicly available by uploading them somewhere
or by setting up your own web server may not be what you want.


What, so you can abuse it?  And all the servers involved, people with 
email accounts?


Heck, loads of rubbish gets sent via email that is of no use to the 
receiver at all.  And many images are seen once on a computer screen, 
but come as multi-megabyte files which will never get printed.


Run a mail server, back it up properly and tell me if you want super 
huge files wasting space there, let alone the resource requirements to 
process the junk.


If a file is important, it will be downloaded and it need not be so hard.

Downloading via email increases the payload considerably and in many 
cases for files that are not wanted or are not wanted in such a large 
file size format.  Downloading from a file share resource is much more 
efficient.



Which problem?  Tight quota limits suck and make an email account
unusable.


People have trouble with 40MB quota limits, I've seen one client send 3 
emails in short succession totalling 60MB, that is utter abuse and most 
receiver's won't be able to accept that much in their normal sized quotas.


There are many, much better ways to share large files privately, email 
is a very bad choice for this requirement.


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Re: limiting email sizes when sending files

2011-07-23 Thread Andrew McGlashan

Hi,

lee wrote:

what's there in Debian to mail files in parts with each part limited to
a given maximum size?  I need a commandline tool to do this --- metamail
doesn't seem to exist anymore.


This problem _should_ _not_ exist.  How horrible to need to piece 
together parts again later.  Think again, find a better solution.


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