Re: Debian et SSD
On 04/09/11 00:58, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote: Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:51:35 +0200 Jean-Yves F. Barbier 12u...@gmail.com a écrit: On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:43:23 +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr wrote: J'ai installé le paquet uswsusp de sid pour avoir la commande swap-offset et elle me donne bien l'offset que j'ai utilisé. Ah ben tient du coup l'hibernation fonctionne ! Bizarre car ce paquet n'est plus dans testing depuis 2009, il n'est donc pas dans squeeze. Est-ce qu'il n'y a pas d'hibernation dans squeeze ? Ben si: j'ai installé le portable en question il y a 3 semaines et en squeeze. Par contre il a réapparu dans sid. J'y comprends rien. Sais-tu qu'est-ce qui gère l'hibernation en squeeze ? Ou alors c'est depuis que Gnome 3 est en partie dans testing que l'on aurait perdu l'hibernation ? Gaëtan Personnellement j'ai de l'hibernation en squeeze. Mais avec KDE, je n'utilise pas gnome. -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6329d9.7030...@rail.eu.org
Re: lire cd audio ou dvd via nbd
Le 29/08/2011 14:00, Jérôme a écrit : Le dimanche 28 août 2011 à 15:25 +0200, Frederic LAPERRIERE a écrit : j'ai vu qu'un périphérique de type bloc (tel un lecteur cd/dvd...) pouvait être exploité en réseau via nbd. Euh... sans m'être jamais penché sur le sujet, un cd/dvd audio-video est-il vraiment un périphérique de type bloc ? C'est un format spécial, j'ai un doute sérieux. D'ailleurs pour y accéder de manière standard (fichiers) il y a des outils intermédiaires dans gnome ou ailleurs. Bonjour Jerome et merci pour votre aide (et désolé pour la lenteur de ma réponse...) un cd/dvd audio-video est-il vraiment un périphérique de type bloc ? bonne question, mais pour l'avoir essayé , le fait de le traiter comme un système de fichiers ( et donc de passer par nfs et non plus nbd ) ne donne pas le résultat escompté, mais effectivement, votre point de vue est intéressant donc à creuser bien cordialement Frederic -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e636855$0$20185$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: lire cd audio ou dvd via nbd
Le 30/08/2011 13:40, Frédéric Boiteux a écrit : Le Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:25:54 +0200, Frederic LAPERRIEREflaperri...@free.fr a écrit : Bonjour à tous, Voici mon problème : En usage courant , je me sers d'un notebook (eeepc) [ gui : icewm ] donc non pourvu d'un lecteur de cd/dvd. Il est connecté via un câble réseau à une tour (pc_a) [ aucune gui, administré via ssh depuis le notebook ], qui est elle équipée d'un lecteur. les deux tournent sous lenny. … Bonjour, Pour voir un DVD déporté, tu pourrais sans doute utiliser VLC dans sa capacité à transporter de la vidéo sur un réseau local (je crois que c'était fait spécialement pour cela au départ). Fred. Bonjour Homonyme :::))) Merci pour votre aide ( et désolé pour la lenteur de ma réponse...) J'avais omis de le préciser dans mon post initial, mais l'essai sous vlc me domande aussi de pointer sur une cible qui est dixit le message d'erreure, unable to read. bien cordialement Homonyme :::))) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e63693d$0$12144$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement?
Le 02/09/2011 15:50, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit : Bonjour. Tout est dans le titre. Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement? Je suis obligé de faire un ifup eth0 Mon /etc/network/interfaces ressemble à ça, pourtant eth0 n'est pas monté automatiquement. # The loopback network interface auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static allow-hotplug eth0 address 192.168.99.40 network 192.168.99.0 broadcast 192.168.99.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.99.250 dns-nameservers 192.168.99.36 192.168.99.37 dns-search oX-..fr Bonjour Olivier, Question bête : peut on avoir dans la meme configuration les paramètres auto ethX et allow-hotplug ethX ?? De même, que se passe t'il si tu transformes auto lo eth0 par auto lo puis ton allow-hotplug eth0 par auto eth0 ? bien cordialement Frederic -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e636f32$0$1556$426a7...@news.free.fr
Re: Kernel failure
Le 02/09/2011 15:40, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit : Bonjour Sur un serveur, j'ai un message récurrent de kernel failure. Est ce que quelqu'un aurait une idée? Ca donne ça : Kernel failure message 1: [ cut here ] kernel BUG at /build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-30-amd64-d4MbNM/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_amd64_none/mm/slub.c:2969! invalid opcode: [#1] SMP last sysfs file: /sys/devices/platform/i5k_amb.0/temp4_input CPU 0 Modules linked in: cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats cpufreq_conservative parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge stp bnep rfcomm l2cap bluetooth rfkill binfmt_misc fuse nfsd exportfs nfs lockd fscache nfs_acl auth_rpcgss sunrpc ext3 jbd loop radeon ttm drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i5000_edac i2c_core edac_core rng_core i5k_amb shpchp pci_hotplug joydev dcdbas psmouse evdev pcspkr serio_raw button processor ext4 mbcache jbd2 crc16 usbhid hid sg sd_mod crc_t10dif sr_mod ses enclosure cdrom ata_generic ata_piix uhci_hcd libata ehci_hcd megaraid_sas bnx2 thermal thermal_sys scsi_mod usbcore nls_base [last unloaded: scsi_wait_scan] Pid: 2395, comm: update-notifier Not tainted 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 PowerEdge 2950 RIP: 0010:[810e6fcf] [810e6fcf] kfree+0x55/0xcb RSP: 0018:88011d7d9e28 EFLAGS: 00010246 RAX: 0208 RBX: 88012c508af8 RCX: 88012c508b10 RDX: 8800fd00 RSI: 0004 RDI: ea000380 RBP: 8801 R08: 88012d167810 R09: 81453f10 R10: 0020 R11: 81152c79 R12: 8111616b R13: 0171e420 R14: 0004 R15: 880120e8ef00 FS: 7f1cc7df47a0() GS:88000540() knlGS: CS: 0010 DS: ES: CR0: 80050033 CR2: 01759000 CR3: 00011d7d6000 CR4: 06f0 DR0: DR1: DR2: DR3: DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400 Process update-notifier (pid: 2395, threadinfo 88011d7d8000, task 88012d167810) Stack: 88012c508af8 88012c508af8 0010 8111616b 0 0020 81118346 88011d7a1b80 88012d167810 0 03e0 0171e400 88012d7b8cc0 880120e8ef58 Call Trace: [8111616b] ? fsnotify_put_event+0x3d/0x4f [81118346] ? inotify_read+0x1e2/0x26a [81064d2a] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x2e [810ef252] ? vfs_read+0xa6/0xff [810ef367] ? sys_read+0x45/0x6e [81010b42] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b Code: 83 c3 08 48 83 3b 00 eb ec 48 83 fd 10 0f 86 89 00 00 00 48 89 ef e8 b9 e8 ff ff 48 89 c7 48 8b 00 84 c0 78 13 66 a9 00 c0 75 040f 0b eb fe 5b 5d 41 5c e9 d8 56 fd ff 48 8b 4c 24 18 4c 8b 4f RIP [810e6fcf] kfree+0x55/0xcb RSP88011d7d9e28 ---[ end trace be6aeadf806469ff ]--- Bonjour Olivier, euhton problème est venu comme ça, ou suite à une mise à jour , installation d'un nouveau paquet etc? Je n'y connais rien dès qu'on rentre dans les entrailles du kernel mais pour essayer de retrouver ton serveur en prod assez rapidement, tu as un moyen un peu long et fastidieux mais souvent efficace, d'abord récupérer les sources ( tu dois avoir un deb-src... dans /etc/apt/sources.list ) décompresser le fichier xxx.dsc obtenu (dpkg-source -x xxx.dsc) dans un repertoire prevu à cet effet, un make menuconfig des familles, recompiler (dpkg-buildpackage) puis installer le nouveau kernel ( dpkg -I... ). En esperant que compiler un nouveau kernel depuis les sources puisse être un solution (il y en a surement plein d'autres) à ton problème, bon courage bien cordialement Frederic -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e637aa7$0$26721$426a7...@news.free.fr
firefox cups lpinfo
Bonjour, J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo j'ai un retour direct sans message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb. Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation. A l'avance merci pour votre aide. Philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041645.45001.phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200, MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo j'ai un retour direct sans message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb. Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation. A l'avance merci pour votre aide. Philippe bonjour, serait il possible de trouver un équivalent à xpp ou de l'installer ... xpp - X Printing Panel que donne : dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}' |grep cups remarque : kde possède un panneau de configuration de son environnement et il se nomme : kdeprint slt bernard -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904172215.1fcb353f.bernard.schoenac...@free.fr
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo j'ai un retour direct sans message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb. Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation. A l'avance merci pour votre aide. Philippe Bonjour, Qu'est-ce que tu entends par Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ? Les seules fois où Firefox ne m'indiquait pas d'imprimantes, c'est lorsque j'utilisais une version 32bits sur une architecture 64bits. A+ -- Laurent -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904172320.0d19a99e@lucifer
Re: Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement?
Le 04/09/2011 14:29, Frederic LAPERRIERE a écrit : Le 02/09/2011 15:50, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit : Bonjour. Tout est dans le titre. Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement? Je suis obligé de faire un ifup eth0 Mon /etc/network/interfaces ressemble à ça, pourtant eth0 n'est pas monté automatiquement. # The loopback network interface auto lo eth0 iface lo inet loopback iface eth0 inet static allow-hotplug eth0 address 192.168.99.40 network 192.168.99.0 broadcast 192.168.99.255 netmask 255.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.99.250 dns-nameservers 192.168.99.36 192.168.99.37 dns-search oX-..fr Bonjour Olivier, Question bête : peut on avoir dans la meme configuration les paramètres "auto ethX" et "allow-hotplug ethX" ?? De même, que se passe t'il si tu transformes "auto lo eth0" par "auto lo" puis ton "allow-hotplug eth0" par "auto eth0" ? j'ai que auto ethx pas de allow-hotplug ethx , et j ai auto lo ce qui donne : # The loopback network interface auto lo iface lo inet loopback # The primary network interface auto eth0 iface eth0 inet static address . philippe bien cordialement Frederic --
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
Le dimanche 4 septembre 2011 17:22:15, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit : Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200, MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo j'ai un retour direct sans message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb. Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation. A l'avance merci pour votre aide. Philippe bonjour, serait il possible de trouver un équivalent à xpp ou de l'installer ... xpp - X Printing Panel qu'apporte xpp ? que donne : dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}' |grep cups Tous les paquets de Cups sont installés: dpkg -l|grep cups ii bluez-cups4.96-1 Bluetooth printer driver for CUPS ii cups 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server ii cups-bsd 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands ii cups-client 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV) ii cups-common 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - common files ii cups-driver-gutenprint5.2.7-2 printer drivers for CUPS ii cups-pdf 2.5.1-4 PDF printer for CUPS ii cups-ppdc 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipulation utilities ii ghostscript-cups 9.02~dfsg-3 interpreter for the PostScript language and for PDF - CUPS filters ii hal-cups-utils0.6.16-3 Utilities to detect and configure printers automatically ii hplip-cups3.11.7-1 HP Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups) rc ia32-libcups2 1.3.11-1~22 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs ii libcups2 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Core library ii libcupscgi1 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - CGI library ii libcupsdriver11.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Driver library ii libcupsimage2 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Raster image library ii libcupsmime1 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - MIME library ii libcupsppdc1 1.5.0-5 Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipulation library rc libgnomecups1.0-1 0.2.3-3+b1 GNOME library for CUPS interaction ii python-cups 1.9.48-1+b1 Python bindings for CUPS ii python-cupshelpers1.2.3-3 Python utility modules around the CUPS printing system ii python-cupsutils 1.0.0-6 Python utility modules around the CUPS printing system remarque : kde possède un panneau de configuration de son environnement et il se nomme : kdeprint Je suis en SID AMD64 kde 4.6 et kdeprint n'existe plus, par contre au niveau de la configuration du système Kde /configuration de l'imprimante, l'imprimante est bien reconnue et le test est concluant et tous les logiciels: Kate,Libre Office reconnaissent et impriment sur l'imprimante slt bernard Merci pour ta réponse. Philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
Le dimanche 4 septembre 2011 17:23:20, Papinux a écrit : Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : Bonjour, J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo j'ai un retour direct sans message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb. Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation. A l'avance merci pour votre aide. Philippe Bonjour, Qu'est-ce que tu entends par Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ? Les seules fois où Firefox ne m'indiquait pas d'imprimantes, c'est lorsque j'utilisais une version 32bits sur une architecture 64bits. A+ Si tu veux la liste des imprimantes disponibles est vide. Je suis en sid AMD64 et firefox 6 (Standard). Merci. Philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041913.38150.phil.mer...@free.fr
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:13:37 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : [...] Si tu veux la liste des imprimantes disponibles est vide. Je suis en sid AMD64 et firefox 6 (Standard). Merci. Philippe firefox 6.0 32 bits? donc c'est normal que tu n'ai pas les imprimantes. La version 64bits de firefox est là: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/6.0/linux-x86_64/fr/ A+ -- Laurent -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904204649.332e60cc@lucifer
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
Le dimanche 4 septembre 2011 20:46:49, Papinux a écrit : Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:13:37 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit : [...] Si tu veux la liste des imprimantes disponibles est vide. Je suis en sid AMD64 et firefox 6 (Standard). Merci. Philippe firefox 6.0 32 bits? donc c'est normal que tu n'ai pas les imprimantes. La version 64bits de firefox est là: http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/6.0/linux-x86_ 64/fr/ A+ Merci pour l'info, mais j'avais cru lire que le site mozilla reconnaissait un linux 32 bit ou 64 bits et alors téléchargeait le bon Firefox ? Me suis je trompé ? A+ Philippe -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109042150.35050.phil.mer...@free.fr
Re: firefox cups lpinfo
On 2011-09-04 21:50:34 +0200, MERLIN Philippe wrote: Merci pour l'info, mais j'avais cru lire que le site mozilla reconnaissait un linux 32 bit ou 64 bits et alors téléchargeait le bon Firefox ? Me suis je trompé ? Oui: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527907 -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / Arénaire project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904231256.ga31...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió: Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda es pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea, es que no logro sacar de evolution la libreta tal y como dicen en un manual que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un amigo me lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde evolution la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de antemano. Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal fin. man evolution-addressbook-export Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.09.04...@gmail.com
Re: Algo terrible que me paso...
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:44:17 -0430, Javier E. Navarro Salazar escribió: Este es mi primer mensaje en la lista, y es para contarle sobre algo terrible que me ocurrió. Iba a clonar un disco de instalación de Debian en una memoria USB con el comando dd, pero cometí un error, el comando fue: $ dd if=debian-iso of=/dev/sda Coloque sda por error, y yo juro que lo hice como usuario normal, pero convertí mi disco duro en un disco de instalación de Debian. ¿Alguien podría hablarme sobre el comando dd? ¿Qué quieres saber? man dd ¿y por qué eso pudo pasar? ¿Porque pusiste mal el destino? ¿Creen que pueda haber un bug? Uso Debian Wheezy/Sid para AMD64, lo intente de nuevo, pero me devuelve ... permiso denegado. Estarías como root o usaste sudo :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.09.20...@gmail.com
Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió: El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió: cheperobert : en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre esta contestando... sera la misma? :) Exacto es la misma. ¿Un cruce de listas? :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.09.23...@gmail.com
Re: Mensaje de error RT2500pci
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:41:03 -0500, garrent escribió: (lamento el formato pero me es imposible mantener el original, no sabía que había clientes de correos tan tan remalotes...) ¿Cliente de correo? No uso. Sí, sí usas. En este caso es un webmail y no sé qué hacer pero: 1/ Deshila los mensajes 2/ Envía en formato html 3/ Hace top-posting Vamos, una joyita. Mira a ver si puedes resolver algunos de esos puntos. No he podido hechar a andar Evolution. En otro hilo nos lo cuentas, mejor. Ya preguntare sobre ello si no lo resuelvo Contesto desde el portal de mi cuenta de correo. ¿Destrozar el hilo y el mensaje? ¿Como debo contestar?Si pudieras explicarme por favor. Es la primera vez que uso una lista de correos.¿O es otro hilo?Gracias Comienza usando un cliente de correo que respeta el estándar porque el tuyo elimina datos importantes de la cabecera de los correos, concretamente el campo References: o In-Reply-To: con lo cual los mensajes no se mantienen en el mismo hilo o al menos yo lo veo completamente roto. Sobre esto no puedes hacer nada salvo ponerlo en conocimiento de tu proveedor o cambiar de cliente de correo. Lo que sí podrás cambiar será el envío en formato html, cambia eso y envía en formato texto porque tus correos se leen fatal en clientes que no usan html. Después, cuando responsas escribe debajo del texto al que respondes, no encima. Todas estas cosas las tienes descritas en las normas de la lista: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct La tarjeta LinksysWirless PC Adapter usa el chipset RT2500 (disculpen la ignorancia) Como dije, con esa tarjeta es con la que me conecto al modem para salir a internet. Y aparentemente no me da problemas mas que el mensaje de error ¿No da problemas, es decir, puedes navegar y configurarla correctamente? Entonces será un error del driver que es muy verboso y registra datos que no debe. Puedes informar de ese fallo para ver si lo solucionan. 03:06.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2500 802.11g [1814:0201] (rev 01) Esa es. Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500#Drivers Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.09.43...@gmail.com
Re: Motherboard m810LN - sis630_smbus conflict, ac97 codec read TIMEOUT
El 2011-09-03 a las 23:32 -0300, mordoc zero escribió: (reenvío a la lista) Gracias por tus consejos, te comento que solo tengo 1 problema y es que no me funciona la aceleracion de video. Ah, eso es muy importante, ahora ya sabemos que ese bus es de la gráfica y que el problema no es tan grave :-) Todos los componentes fueron detectados. Al a bios la modifique y la probe con todas las combinaciones posibles. Los sistemas operativos arrancan, tengo arranque dual de Windows y Debian squeeze i386, ambos funcionan, pero se traba mucho el entorno de video. El glxgears me da: glxgears 376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.147 FPS Entonces empieza por decirnos qué tarjeta gráfica monta tu equipo, qué driver estás usando y qué te dice el registro de xorg (/var/log/Xorg.0.log). En cuanto a los mensajes de error que publique, quisiera saber si alguien me puede ayudar a detectar a que se deben dichos mensajes y si estan relacionados con el desempeño de la maquina. No creo que tengan relación. Si no tienes aceleración 3D lo notarás al ejecutar juegos o si usas efectos en el escritoro pero poco más, vamos, que los mensajes que ves relacionados con los recursos y el ACPI son harto normales en equipos antiguos y no tienen por qué indicar un problema por sí mismos. Ten en cuenta que si el equipo tiene años y dispone de pocos recursos lo notarás lento casi seguro a no ser que instales algún DE ligero. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904101212.ga4...@stt008.linux.site
Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 03:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió: El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió: cheperobert : en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre esta contestando... sera la misma? :) Exacto es la misma. ¿Un cruce de listas? :-) Si un miembro de la lista opensuse ha enviado un mensaje de un hilo a esta lista y sin percatarme le he contestado. Disculpas por las molestias. Saludos Camaleon -- Saludos, cheperobert -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca++ksy2-wfojwtklqobjbrogcuzz_-dnrs37onje0kjho...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:44:11 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió: (...) La forma de colaborar es eligiendo un mes que aún no cuente con cinco revisiones en el wiki, revisar el asunto de los mensajes dando clic en los que parezcan sospechosos, y reportar los mensajes de correo no deseado utilizando el botón de la parte superior derecha, por último hay que actualizar el wiki cambiando una estrella apagada por una iluminada e incluyendo su {nombre|iniciales|nick} en la revisión. Fernando, gracias por estar pendiente de estas cosas :-) Voy a poner un ejemplo práctico para ver si lo he entendido bien: Supongamos que quiero limpiar los archivos de esta lista (debian-user- spanish) de este año, 2011. Voy a esta página: http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/SpanishSpamClean#A2011 Veo que enero sólo tiene una estrellita (1 revisión) así que lo elijo para depurar. Accedo al archivo de este mes: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/ Y busco mensajes que entiendo que son spam, como por ejemplo, este: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/msg00058.html Y pulso en el botón de arriba que dice report as spam (pulsado) Sigo buscando mensajes de spam en ese mes y voy pulsando en cada botón correspondiente. (terminado) Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para poder editar la wiki? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.14.24...@gmail.com
Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:15:35 -0600, cheperobert escribió: El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 03:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió: El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió: cheperobert : en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre esta contestando... sera la misma? :) Exacto es la misma. ¿Un cruce de listas? :-) Si un miembro de la lista opensuse ha enviado un mensaje de un hilo a esta lista y sin percatarme le he contestado. Disculpas por las molestias. No pasa nada hombre X-) Saludos Camaleon Igualmente, y saluda a los listeros de openSUSE de mi parte :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.14.29...@gmail.com
Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird
El 04/09/11 11:04, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió: Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda es pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea, es que no logro sacar de evolution la libreta tal y como dicen en un manual que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un amigo me lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde evolution la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de antemano. Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal fin. man evolution-addressbook-export Camaleon pero eso no esta en los repos , o por lo menos yo no lo tengo en mis repos pudieras enviarme el pakete, gracias de antemano Saludos, -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e63459f.2060...@infomed.sld.cu
Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:32:15 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió: El 04/09/11 11:04, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió: Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda es pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea, es que no logro sacar de evolution la libreta tal y como dicen en un manual que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un amigo me lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde evolution la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de antemano. Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal fin. man evolution-addressbook-export Camaleon pero eso no esta en los repos , o por lo menos yo no lo tengo en mis repos pudieras enviarme el pakete, gracias de antemano Debes tenerlo instalado, forma parte del paquete Evolution: sm01@stt008:~$ locate evolution-addressbook-export /usr/bin/evolution-addressbook-export /usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-addressbook-export /usr/share/man/man1/evolution-addressbook-export.1.gz Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.15.54...@gmail.com
Re: Algo terrible que me paso...
Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Javier E. Navarro Salazar: Saludos Este es mi primer mensaje en la lista, y es para contarle sobre algo terrible que me ocurrió. Iba a clonar un disco de instalación de Debian en una memoria USB con el comando dd, pero cometí un error, el comando fue: $ dd if=debian-iso of=/dev/sda Coloque sda por error, y yo juro que lo hice como usuario normal, pero convertí mi disco duro en un disco de instalación de Debian. ¿Alguien podría hablarme sobre el comando dd? ¿y por qué eso pudo pasar? ¿Creen que pueda haber un bug? Uso Debian Wheezy/Sid para AMD64, lo intente de nuevo, pero me devuelve ... permiso denegado. O tu usuario estaba en el grupo disk: brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 sep 3 14:58 /dev/sda o utilizaste permisos de root para la acción, por lo que no debieras jurar en vano. Los [1]bugs no obran milagros, y como 'dd' no tiene los bits SUID o SGID activados: -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 53240 abr 28 2010 /bin/dd lo hiciste como root, o, repito, tu usuario pertenecía al grupo disk. El comando 'dd' (¿Disk Dump?), realiza copias bit a bit entre dispositivos, por lo que te has cargado la tabla de partición y un montón de datos al principio del disco. Espero que tengas copias de seguridad, porque la recuperación de datos en el disco que has machacado nunca va a ser completa. Suerte. [1]http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=coreutils -- Saludos --- Angel
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 02:24:40PM +, Camaleón wrote: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:44:11 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió: (...) La forma de colaborar es eligiendo un mes que aún no cuente con cinco revisiones en el wiki, revisar el asunto de los mensajes dando clic en los que parezcan sospechosos, y reportar los mensajes de correo no deseado utilizando el botón de la parte superior derecha, por último hay que actualizar el wiki cambiando una estrella apagada por una iluminada e incluyendo su {nombre|iniciales|nick} en la revisión. Fernando, gracias por estar pendiente de estas cosas :-) Voy a poner un ejemplo práctico para ver si lo he entendido bien: Supongamos que quiero limpiar los archivos de esta lista (debian-user- spanish) de este año, 2011. Voy a esta página: http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/SpanishSpamClean#A2011 Veo que enero sólo tiene una estrellita (1 revisión) así que lo elijo para depurar. Accedo al archivo de este mes: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/ Y busco mensajes que entiendo que son spam, como por ejemplo, este: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/msg00058.html Y pulso en el botón de arriba que dice report as spam (pulsado) Sigo buscando mensajes de spam en ese mes y voy pulsando en cada botón correspondiente. (terminado) Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para poder editar la wiki? Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-) Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1]. Saludos y buen día, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount -- Fernando C. Estrada The only intuitive interface is the nipple. After that, it's all learned. (Bruce Ediger, bedi...@teal.csn.org, in comp.os.linux.misc, on X interfaces.) signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:38:42 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió: On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 02:24:40PM +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para poder editar la wiki? Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-) Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1]. Saludos y buen día, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount ¡Hecho! Mira a ver que no haya roto nada, el sistema de wiki que conocía era el de openSUSE y este así de primeras me ha parecido similar pero nunca se sabe... Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.17.14...@gmail.com
Re: Mensaje de error RT2500pci
On Domingo, 4 de Septiembre de 2011 11:43:58 Camaleón escribió: Aupa Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios. Si esta usando un kernel genérico están todos activados así que le cargara el que le corresponda. Yo uso el rt61pci pero están los demás también activados Lo que tiene que mirar es si tiene o no tiene instalado el paquete con la firmware ralink dpkg -l | grep ralink ii firmware-ralink 0.33 Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards Si no esta, instalarlo, si esta empezamos a mirar otras cosas. Un saludo BasaBuru signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-) Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1]. Saludos y buen día, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount -- Fernando C. Estrada Muy buena idea. Lo estuve mirando y revisando para ver el sistema en el año 1997 (herver) Pero algo faltaria para mi. Hay 5 estrellas, que hacen que se asegure de 5 verificaciones al mes correspondientes. ¿Pero que pasa con esta situación? 5 personas lo revisan y marcan que lo revisaron, pero un mensaje de Spam, solo lo ven 4, con lo cual, por un error, no se hace la denuncia de uno. Pero como fue revisado ya 5 veces nadie mas lo revisa y entonces no se termina el proceso. Tal vez se podría hacer que si alguien revisa e informa de algún mensaje en ese mes, que ponga luego de su nombre, entre paréntesis la cantidad de mensajes que detecto. De esa manera, el resto esta atento a la cantidad que hallaron los otros revisores y nos aseguramos que todos los mensajes tengan las 5 notificaciones necesarias. Saludos Hernan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHHYicTd+ap2BopWSuT=zue+qjsep_bzn_jd2twg+7qzm0u...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 05:14:53PM +, Camaleón wrote: El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:38:42 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió: On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 02:24:40PM +, Camaleón wrote: (...) Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para poder editar la wiki? Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-) Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1]. Saludos y buen día, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount ¡Hecho! Mira a ver que no haya roto nada, el sistema de wiki que conocía era el de openSUSE y este así de primeras me ha parecido similar pero nunca se sabe... Todo perfecto, ¡muchas gracias!, únicamente quité el enlace de tu nick y de herver ya que la página en el wiki a la que apuntaban no existía ;-) Saludos y buen día, -- Fernando C. Estrada james Are we going to make an emacs out of apt? APT - Debian in a program. It even does your laundry -- Seen on #Debian signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:27:21PM -0300, Hernan Javier Lopez wrote: Muy buena idea. Lo estuve mirando y revisando para ver el sistema en el año 1997 (herver) Pero algo faltaria para mi. Hay 5 estrellas, que hacen que se asegure de 5 verificaciones al mes correspondientes. ¿Pero que pasa con esta situación? 5 personas lo revisan y marcan que lo revisaron, pero un mensaje de Spam, solo lo ven 4, con lo cual, por un error, no se hace la denuncia de uno. Pero como fue revisado ya 5 veces nadie mas lo revisa y entonces no se termina el proceso. Tal vez se podría hacer que si alguien revisa e informa de algún mensaje en ese mes, que ponga luego de su nombre, entre paréntesis la cantidad de mensajes que detecto. De esa manera, el resto esta atento a la cantidad que hallaron los otros revisores y nos aseguramos que todos los mensajes tengan las 5 notificaciones necesarias. Tienes toda la razón, sin embargo posiblemente ese mensaje que solo tuvo cuatro revisiones según el wiki también fué reportado sin incluir la revisión en el wiki como lo hacen ya varias personas. En mi caso por ejemplo cada que llega un correo no deseado a una lista que sigo lo reporto inmediatamente con mi cliente de correo [1] (de forma tan sencilla en mutt [2] como pulsar una 'S' y confirmar), por lo que utilizando el proceso descrito en el wiki generaría 2 reportes ;-) De cualquier forma veamos como funciona y en su caso agregamos 2 reportes (estrellas) para evitar que se nos escapen, ¿te parece bien? Saludos y buen día, [1] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam/MUAPlugins [2] http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam/MUAPlugins/Mutt -- Fernando C. Estrada lilo I've always wanted to have a web site with a big picture of a carrot on it signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español
De cualquier forma veamos como funciona y en su caso agregamos 2 reportes (estrellas) para evitar que se nos escapen, ¿te parece bien? Perfecto por mi... :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHHYicSjFXX4jVPtcrrUPuxWZmk=ucsfi80pbog4vudqzqd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 11:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:15:35 -0600, cheperobert escribió: El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 03:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió: El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com escribió: cheperobert : en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre esta contestando... sera la misma? :) Exacto es la misma. ¿Un cruce de listas? :-) Si un miembro de la lista opensuse ha enviado un mensaje de un hilo a esta lista y sin percatarme le he contestado. Disculpas por las molestias. No pasa nada hombre X-) Saludos Camaleon Igualmente, y saluda a los listeros de openSUSE de mi parte :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón Heee.. si les digo que me hakearon la cuenta de gmail, me creen? :) Flelix si, claramente la lista de debian-user-spanish, no es lo que hera antes.. ahora dejan entrar a cualquiera... Perdon...se me paso. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cadqxbrrhw4kmcgyyoxd5we8b8jdpv61bo9viu-0_glzbh6+...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Algo terrible que me paso...
El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 16:14, Javier E. Navarro Salazar jav...@noclouds.org escribió: ¿y por qué eso pudo pasar? ¿Creen que pueda haber un bug? Uso Debian Wheezy/Sid para AMD64, lo intente El único bug es ta mente humana, simplemente lo rompiste.. , mas de uno nos ha pasado cosas similares... (mas de las que voy a admitir) Si luego quieres recuperar datos, lo único que te queda usar es testdisk, Foremost y PhotoRec Suerte -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADqxbRRL34xC_FKwY7CQ7sBLjn_fEe_=gbdpkexg-yrmeok...@mail.gmail.com
Particion windows-Debian
espero puedan aconcejarme en esta duda que tengo,he buscado informacion y no he conseguido nada esclarecedor: tengo instalado windows y debian en un disco duro de 40 GB,la particion de debian ya se me esta haciendo pequeña y me queda poco espacio(mi /home esta hay tambien,tengo debian completo en esa particion).lo que yo quisiera es quitar definitivamente windows y aprovechar ese espacio para debian. ?que deberia hecer?. he leido que no habria problema si elimino desde bebian la particion de windows y le doy formato ext3 para luego unirla a la particion donde esta debian. ?no tendria problema al arrancar? tambien habia pensado en instalar desde cero debian en la particion donde esta windows,pero se me hace algo tedioso ya que solo puedo hacerlo por usb con una imagen netinstal.(no dispongo de quemador de cd :( ) puedo borrar y formatear esa particion de windows sin problema? hay les dejo (archivo adjunto:pantallazo.png) una imagen de mis particiones,de antemano muchas gracias por la yuda que puedan darme attachment: Pantallazo.png
Re: Particion windows-Debian
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 21:08, waldo li waleme...@gmail.com escribió: espero puedan aconcejarme en esta duda que tengo,he buscado informacion y no he conseguido nada esclarecedor: tengo instalado windows y debian en un disco duro de 40 GB,la particion de debian ya se me esta haciendo pequeña y me queda poco espacio(mi /home esta hay tambien,tengo debian completo en esa particion).lo que yo quisiera es quitar definitivamente windows y aprovechar ese espacio para debian. ?que deberia hecer?. he leido que no habria problema si elimino desde bebian la particion de windows y le doy formato ext3 para luego unirla a la particion donde esta debian. ?no tendria problema al arrancar? tambien habia pensado en instalar desde cero debian en la particion donde esta windows,pero se me hace algo tedioso ya que solo puedo hacerlo por usb con una imagen netinstal.(no dispongo de quemador de cd :( ) puedo borrar y formatear esa particion de windows sin problema? hay les dejo (archivo adjunto:pantallazo.png) una imagen de mis particiones,de antemano muchas gracias por la yuda que puedan darme La verdad, unirlas no vas a poder hacerlo sin un cdlive, puede usar gparted (tiene un usblive) )por que estas en la misma Igual cuando las unas, tenes que modicar el grub y el fstab Lo que puede hacer sin grandes cambios es formatear la partición NTFS 7.4G y montar el /home y copiar todos tus archivos del home.. eso lo podes hacer sin reiniciar y sin cdlive., pero igual te vas a quedar corto..es poco 6,8GB para un / (raiz) de desktop. Si fuese mi notebook realizaría un backup y restructuraria todas las particiones, cuento libre te queda en la de 21GB? Si reestructuras hace un backup con FSArchiver,es lo mas flexible. Saludos. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CADqxbRSFfimHR94AFq+LJ-rv5OqEErNL=yXDrZtUk4p=5rg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird
El 04/09/11 17:54, Camaleón escribió: El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:32:15 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió: El 04/09/11 11:04, Camaleón escribió: El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió: Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda es pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea, es que no logro sacar de evolution la libreta tal y como dicen en un manual que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un amigo me lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde evolution la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de antemano. Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal fin. man evolution-addressbook-export Camaleon pero eso no esta en los repos , o por lo menos yo no lo tengo en mis repos pudieras enviarme el pakete, gracias de antemano Debes tenerlo instalado, forma parte del paquete Evolution: sm01@stt008:~$ locate evolution-addressbook-export /usr/bin/evolution-addressbook-export /usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-addressbook-export /usr/share/man/man1/evolution-addressbook-export.1.gz OK camaleón, y como es que puedo usar esto que encontre, anja me salio tal y como lo pasaste arriba, pero como puedo exportar ehh, gracias de antemano Saludos, -- Este mensaje le ha llegado mediante el servicio de correo electronico que ofrece Infomed para respaldar el cumplimiento de las misiones del Sistema Nacional de Salud. La persona que envia este correo asume el compromiso de usar el servicio a tales fines y cumplir con las regulaciones establecidas Infomed: http://www.sld.cu/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e63cce4.8050...@infomed.sld.cu
¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?
Saludos lista, escribo para preguntar si alguien sabe si es posible instalar assaultcuebe para una computadora con procesador amd64 y con Debian Squeeze. Gracias
Re: ¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 23:55, Mayeli Sanchez anam...@gmail.com escribió: Saludos lista, escribo para preguntar si alguien sabe si es posible instalar assaultcuebe para una computadora con procesador amd64 y con Debian Squeeze. Gracias http://sourceforge.net/projects/actiongame/files/AssaultCube%20Version%201.1.0.4/ , lo descargas, descomprimes y ejecutas (si no recuerdo mal, tiene un ejecutable para 64 bits). Si no funciona, pruebas descargando el .exe y ejecutando con Wine. Saludos, -- -- Santiago López Denazis -- Si hubiera dioses, ¿cómo soportaría yo no ser dios? -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOs5aCxqZqoGj3tpzmtr5x6j+AKLrjmpkbZp715oZ7+FCze=h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?
El 4 de septiembre de 2011 22:55, Mayeli Sanchez anam...@gmail.comescribió: Saludos lista, escribo para preguntar si alguien sabe si es posible instalar assaultcuebe para una computadora con procesador amd64 y con Debian Squeeze. Gracias Saludos. Creo que ese juego esta en los repositorios intenta con apt-get install assaultcube -- Orlando E. Nuñez A. Telefono: 04263609858
Re: ¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?
2011/9/5 López Denazis Santiago vampireofsen...@gmail.com: http://sourceforge.net/projects/actiongame/files/AssaultCube%20Version%201.1.0.4/ , lo descargas, descomprimes y ejecutas (si no recuerdo mal, tiene un ejecutable para 64 bits). Si no funciona, pruebas descargando el .exe y ejecutando con Wine. Saludos, Me corrijo: descomprimes y ejecutás el assaultcube.sh, anda perfectamente en 64 bits (acabo de probarlo). Salud! -- -- Santiago López Denazis -- Si hubiera dioses, ¿cómo soportaría yo no ser dios? -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOs5aCwmunGRv2nXmtSZzhagD88ZuDDBYWNtrBuv=tt7vx1...@mail.gmail.com
Mensaje de error RT2500pci
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:41:03 -0500, garrent escribió: (lamento el formato pero me es imposible mantener el original, no sabía que había clientes de correos tan tan remalotes...) ¿Cliente de correo? No uso. Sí, sí usas. En este caso es un webmail y no sé qué hacer pero: 1/ Deshila los mensajes 2/ Envía en formato html 3/ Hace top-posting Vamos, una joyita. Mira a ver si puedes resolver algunos de esos puntos. No he podido hechar a andar Evolution. En otro hilo nos lo cuentas, mejor. Ya preguntare sobre ello si no lo resuelvo Contesto desde el portal de mi cuenta de correo. ¿Destrozar el hilo y el mensaje? ¿Como debo contestar?Si pudieras explicarme por favor. Es la primera vez que uso una lista de correos.¿O es otro hilo?Gracias Comienza usando un cliente de correo que respeta el estándar porque el tuyo elimina datos importantes de la cabecera de los correos, concretamente el campo References: o In-Reply-To: con lo cual los mensajes no se mantienen en el mismo hilo o al menos yo lo veo completamente roto. Sobre esto no puedes hacer nada salvo ponerlo en conocimiento de tu proveedor o cambiar de cliente de correo. Lo que sí podrás cambiar será el envío en formato html, cambia eso y envía en formato texto porque tus correos se leen fatal en clientes que no usan html. Después, cuando responsas escribe debajo del texto al que respondes, no encima. Bueno, tratere de corregirlo. Lo del formato en HTML fue error mio, perdon Todas estas cosas las tienes descritas en las normas de la lista: http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct La tarjeta LinksysWirless PC Adapter usa el chipset RT2500 (disculpen la ignorancia) Como dije, con esa tarjeta es con la que me conecto al modem para salir a internet. Y aparentemente no me da problemas mas que el mensaje de error ¿No da problemas, es decir, puedes navegar y configurarla correctamente? Entonces será un error del driver que es muy verboso y registra datos que no debe. Puedes informar de ese fallo para ver si lo solucionan. No me da problemas. Bueno una vez estaba navegando y de repente ya no repondio el internet, despues de un rato volvio a responder, y hace un rato no me pude conectar. Inicie ms-windows y si navegaba. Volvi a entrar a debian y ya se pudo. No se a que se deba, ni si tiene relacion con el error mencionado en el hilo 03:06.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2500 802.11g [1814:0201] (rev 01) Esa es. Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios. Aqui esta el resultado: rt2500pci 129590 rt2x00pci46051 rt2500pci rt2x00lib218102 rt2500pci,rt2x00pci led_class24331 rt2x00lib mac80211 137356 2 rt2x00pci,rt2x00lib cfg80211 101496 2 rt2x00lib,mac80211 eeprom_93cx6 1335 1 rt2500pci parport_pc 18855 1 parport27954 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500#Drivers Por lo que lei en la pagina, creo que tengo instalado el controlador de nueva generacion que mencionan ahi. Pero en si ¿que linea indica cual es el controlador? Saludos, -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/LR16MX$3cd618563d115521bb9d2f2777b7a...@prodigy.net.mx
Mensaje de error RT2500pci
On Domingo, 4 de Septiembre de 2011 11:43:58 Camaleón escribió: Aupa Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios. Si esta usando un kernel genérico están todos activados así que le cargara el que le corresponda. lsmod|grep rt Aqui esta el resultado: rt2500pci 12959 0 rt2x00pci 4605 1 rt2500pci rt2x00lib 21810 2 rt2500pci,rt2x00pci led_class 2433 1 rt2x00lib mac80211 137356 2 rt2x00pci,rt2x00lib cfg80211 101496 2 rt2x00lib,mac80211 eeprom_93cx6 1335 1 rt2500pci parport_pc 18855 1 parport 27954 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc Yo uso el rt61pci pero están los demás también activados Lo que tiene que mirar es si tiene o no tiene instalado el paquete con la firmware ralink dpkg -l | grep ralink Pues no salio ningun resultado. Sale el promt Me imagino que en la linea de ordenes si el comando no encuentra informacion es normal lo anterior. Tal vez suene tonto, pero soy un neofito en linux ii firmware-ralink 0.33 Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards Si no esta, instalarlo, si esta empezamos a mirar otras cosas. Un saludo BasaBuru. Bueno, lo voy a buscar, e intententar instalarlo. Igual un saludo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/LR17J1$671e4c537f75177ddcb84a5580cfd...@prodigy.net.mx
Instalar Impresora HP
saludos a todos.Soy nuevo usando debian y mi duda apunta a que quiero instalar mi impresora Hp Oficejet 4000 , al ver en la pag de Hp sale que si quiero instalarla en linux debo usar el hplip, accedo a el , entro a Download HPLIB. Selecciono Debian , 6.0 y mi impresora pero sale este mensaje Debian 6.0 supplies HPLIP 2.8.6 and it does not support your printer.Alguien me puede ayudar a instalarlaDesde ya muchas gracias A
Re: Nerladdare för tex svtplay?
On Wednesday 31 August 2011 21:43:35 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:46:42 +0200 Verkar fungera utmärkt! Över 25% hemma. Men finns det någon lösning på (skärm + ljud) -- fil undrar jag. Om det finns kan man ladda ner allt, inte bara sånt man förstår. /Janne Låter som recordmydesktop är ett program som skulle passa i så fall: http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/ // Anders -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-swedish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041653.26815.lesp...@algonet.se
problemas com cups
Alguém ai teve problemas com o cups? possuo 9 impressoras ligadas na rede e uma em cabo usb no cups o problema eh que a ligada a usb as vezes para do nada, a solução que encontrei foi resetar o servidor de 1 em 1 hora ou seja 12 resets por dia pra o cups funcionar redondo sem parar, as outras são ligadas por ip mas de vez em quando o cups para não sei pq talvez seja pq o volume de impressão seja grande, alguma ideia?
Re: OFF-TOPIC (Ajuda com Eclipse)
quando eu trabalhava com o c/c++ no eclipse, eu precisava compilar, depois entrar nas propriedades do projeto e configurar qual era o executável que o compilador gerava. depois disso, você já poderia compilar e rodar o programa normalmente. mas isso era no tempo do galileo, não sei como o indigo está se comportando quanto a isso. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: sources.list directory specification
On Saturday 03 September 2011 10:35:53 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 03/09/11 08:27, Lisi wrote: So - you are just doing as I suggested. Being selective (except you were doing it long before I suggested it, and I was only echoing the documentation) Hidden in my original post was this:- Yes - though you might consider reading up on pinning. ;-p Yes, I saw that - but I in my turn was obviously not making myself clear. ;-) Hidden in my post was the point that I did nothing. Debian did it without my lifting a finger! (Stars and emphasis added now.) installed from there. The marvellous ***Debian sets the pinning appropriately __automatically__:*** /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 200 Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109040811.22330.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... -Miles -- Brain, n. An apparatus with which we think we think. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87obz0kbz9@catnip.gol.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably got his wish :)
Re: Is it possible to use broken display laptop for print server?
On 04/09/11 07:11, Brian wrote: On Sat 03 Sep 2011 at 07:32:03 -0700, kei...@strucktower.com wrote: Hmm. I'm thinking- would I first need to boot with an attached external monitor to configure the Bios to use the external monitor? (chicken or egg?) To configure the bios you have to have a display on the external monitor. If you have a display you should be able to see the Debian installer come up. More to the point: have you tried it? I don't know how common the default setting is - but I had an old Gateway laptop with a dead screen that I used as a firewall. Similar situation - in order to enable an external monitor and booting from a non-hdd device I needed to access the BIOS. Dumping the CMOS enabled the external monitor so I could see the BIOS setting screens. Cheers -- I don't know how you deal with these winters - I don't get it. I was here last winter, one of the days I was here it was 3 below zero, no wind chill. A little nippy. It's kind of fun though in that weather, going outdoors and watching smokers pass out 'cause they don't know when they're done exhaling. — Bill Hicks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e632ee7.8080...@gmail.com
Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:48:33 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote: 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com: It contains just 2 fields; # User privilege specification root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only limited privileges) at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line: username ALL=(ALL) ALL where username is the name of user that will have root level privileges, so in my case it is like this: darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work ---end quoted text--- Cool. Thanks for the help. Strange why that line isn't there aye? Sudo in sid has just been updated to a version with a different sudoers file format. Those who opted for a new configuration file got the empty one quoted above, those who opted to keep theirs kept their own additions to the old one. The latter also ended up with a sudo which couldn't see sbin and the lower level sbins, which then stopped further updates from working under sudo... possibly a changelog would have been in order? The clean new sudoers was also provided (as the .dpkg-dist file), so it wasn't too hard to combine the two (clue: the Defaults secure_path configuration is necessary to restore the path to include the sbins). -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904090338.1c62b...@jretrading.com
Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps
2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com: On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote: 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com: It contains just 2 fields; # User privilege specification root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command %sudo ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only limited privileges) at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line: username ALL=(ALL) ALL where username is the name of user that will have root level privileges, so in my case it is like this: darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work ---end quoted text--- Cool. Thanks for the help. Strange why that line isn't there aye? Well, probably because maintainers can't be sure about which user should have root level privileges, so it has actualized file without asking question whether it should do so (this one is because of synaptic, can't blame it - most (nontechnical) users won't notice those changes, and in most cases system doesn't brake). As I'm updating from command line I got information about changes in /etc/sudoers but I decided to handle this manually as tool for merging changes in config files is not too helpful (but it could be, arch and gentoo are doing much better in this aspect) darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CACRpbMh+e6yxwab=BHNMLB2mUwQ9xTwn=wo_c+zcf7egowm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: sources.list directory specification
On 04/09/11 17:11, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 03 September 2011 10:35:53 Scott Ferguson wrote: On 03/09/11 08:27, Lisi wrote: So - you are just doing as I suggested. Being selective (except you were doing it long before I suggested it, and I was only echoing the documentation) Hidden in my original post was this:- Yes - though you might consider reading up on pinning. ;-p Yes, I saw that - but I in my turn was obviously not making myself clear. ;-) Hidden in my post was the point that I did nothing. Debian did it without my lifting a finger! (Stars and emphasis added now.) installed from there. The marvellous ***Debian sets the pinning appropriately __automatically__:*** /etc/apt/preferences Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 200 Lisi Worse - I *did* read it It. Just. Did. Not. Sink. In. Clearly you need longer nails and a bigger hammer to make the point sink in! ;-p (mea culpa) Just checked, Squeeze doesn't seem to auto-pin Cheers -- I don't know how you deal with these winters - I don't get it. I was here last winter, one of the days I was here it was 3 below zero, no wind chill. A little nippy. It's kind of fun though in that weather, going outdoors and watching smokers pass out 'cause they don't know when they're done exhaling. — Bill Hicks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e63318f.2090...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:23:06 +0900 Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... Funny, isn't it? Of the dozen or so failed drives I've seen over a long period (I'm not a full-time IT professional) only three have not been WD (Seagate Barracuda, just over a year old, Maxtor about five years old, Rodime 40MB about four years old). The first I saw was a WD 30MB hardcard, which wouldn't start up. Fortunately, it had an external (!) rotating part, and it was possible to get a finger to it to kick-start it, after which the data could be recovered. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904091345.75e72...@jretrading.com
Re: Is it possible to use broken display laptop for print server?
On Sat 03 Sep 2011 at 17:50:28 -0700, kei...@strucktower.com wrote: shawn said: If you're looking for something to do, go for it. If you want a print server that just works, go on eBay and get an old jetdirect server (or go off brand - belkin comes to mind) for $20. This is your low-energy, noiseless solution. It may also take less time to set up and lead to less frustration than your laptop route. Any tips appreciated- how to configure it to automatically log in to the network, which software to use for print server and how to start it on bootup, how to create the cd, etc. Download a netinst iso, burn to CD and boot from it. Insert a USB stick and, after the base install stage and configuring the package manager, put GRUB on the MBR of the stick. Download the Plop Boot Manager zip file from www.plop.at. It contains an iso file. Burn the iso to a CD. Boot from it and then from the USB stick. Install CUPS, Samba, a printer driver (www.openprinting.org) and anything else you may need. Configure to your liking. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904090850.GL28063@desktop
fvwm problem
One fvwm feature doesn't work properly for me. I put a post in the fvwm forum, but the only replies were from the program maintener, and it works for him. I would like to know if it is the case for Debian fvwm users, if any. The problem is with the Style command: if I modify the config file, and issue a fvwm Restart, the changes are applied immediately for the Title flag, but not for the others. For example, if I have: Style xclock NoTitle the sclock window has no title, and is not sticky if I replace this line by: Style xclock Sticky and do Restart, the xclock window gets immediatlely a title, but is still not sticky. If I restart xclock, it is now sticky -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1109041120560.8...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:48:33 -0700, Mike Castle wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote: just a word of warning: on absolutely no account, not for any reason, should you buy WD Green drives. i've just spent a hair-raising 6 weeks discovering that these drives, when pushed above a mere 40 Centigrade, become so unstable that they can actually become completely unresponsive, shut down, and leave the linux kernel in a completely unstable state, especially if they are part of a RAID1 mirror. For what it's worth, WD _does_ say not to use Green drives in RAID and such. http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1397 Good catch. But regardless WD statement, there is no compelling reason for a hard drive going down or start failing at 40℃, that's absurd. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.09.54...@gmail.com
Re: Dig +bind9 debian squeeze
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:03:56 -0430, john vera wrote: F1 F1 F1 F1 F1: es simple, pero no puedo. (...) John, this is the English mailing list, should you want to ask something here it should be done in English :-) There is also a Spanish mailing list you can try: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.09.57...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably got his wish :) what does OP mean? -- Best Regards, lina -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmma-augock7904xc9+at2snlsmy8vrkskwja-hnsdc...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Is it possible to use broken display laptop for print server?
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:32:03 -0700, keitho wrote: (...) Hmm. Is it possible to boot a minimal Linux OS from a cdrom on this broken display Dell (with 256M ram) that would enable me to use it as a print server? I would use a wired Ethernet connection to the hub in the basement. (...) Yes, just attatch an external monitor to simplify the installation process and once done you can control your box via ssh. Consider using a light DE/WM or none at all because 256 MiB of RAM is very low for big desktops like GNOME or KDE. You can also use your laptop as a secondary backup server or for monitoring purposes. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.10.03...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sunday 04 September 2011 3:33:15 pm lina wrote: what does OP mean? IF you meant the abbreviation, OP stands for Original Poster. The person who started the whole thread in question. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041608.31120.mihirathe...@gmail.com
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.10.40...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On 04/09/11 20:03, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM, shawn wilsonag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Badermi...@gnu.org wrote: linalina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... �might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably� got his wish :) what does OP mean? Original Poster Cheers -- I don't know how you deal with these winters - I don't get it. I was here last winter, one of the days I was here it was 3 below zero, no wind chill. A little nippy. It's kind of fun though in that weather, going outdoors and watching smokers pass out 'cause they don't know when they're done exhaling. — Bill Hicks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e635a18.8000...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Scott Ferguson prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote: On 04/09/11 20:03, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM, shawn wilsonag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Badermi...@gnu.org wrote: linalina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... �might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably� got his wish :) what does OP mean? Original Poster Thanks. Cheers -- I don't know how you deal with these winters - I don't get it. I was here last winter, one of the days I was here it was 3 below zero, no wind chill. A little nippy. It's kind of fun though in that weather, going outdoors and watching smokers pass out 'cause they don't know when they're done exhaling. — Bill Hicks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e635a18.8000...@gmail.com -- Best Regards, lina -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmky+std6x-q9-44jpnbfumv_ceoxhxaynpap9c-4j-...@mail.gmail.com
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Reply: Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three times. May I ask one thing here, Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for hotmail one. Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and gmail? Seems Postfix is heavy for me? Thanks, Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.10.40...@gmail.com -- Best Regards, lina -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJmmvf7CE0RxeYbkRpU4EjwUaGFr1marezPxY7BsBiN=d...@mail.gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably got his wish :) Well, actually, you have all helped that to happen by broadening the topic. It wasn't about a brand, but about a brand and model type specifically. This is about Green WD drives, not all WD drives. Before buying anything important to you, or something you don't want to buy all over again because you are careful with money, you should research the consumer reaction or solicit opinions on it. I researched the green drives from all makers and learned they are engineered to do one thing well: save power while in a desktop not in use. They are not designed for servers, nor even for intense computing use like gaming or RAID. I also noticed consumer backlash on all green drives, and cheaper pricing on green drives than any other kind (fire sale at some retailers). So I did not buy green drives. I have used WD blue SATA 1TB drives in a couple of servers with RAID 1 and there is no problem. The most intense server using them is running cyrus mail, and horde webmail, for about 3000 mailboxes and probably 500 users visiting their mailboxes every day. The horde webmail on there also serves users of another cyrus system with 4000 more active mailboxes on it. The system is backed up nightly with EMC networker, and runs in a room with air conditioning. Right now, early on a Sunday morning, the load is only .35 and the hard drive internal temperature from smartctl is 37 C. I imagine it does go above 40 when loaded or under full backup duty.
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Sunday 04 September 2011 5:03:41 pm lina wrote: Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three times. May I ask one thing here, Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for hotmail one. Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and gmail? Seems Postfix is heavy for me? Thanks, Icedove works fine with Gmail. From gmail settings, enable POP3 access and then in Icedove, set the setttings as given here : http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86400 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041724.16757.mihirathe...@gmail.com
Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:33:41 +0800, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Reply: Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three times. Ouch! The thread was just about MTU and I asked if it is fine to adjust that value with bonded NICs... May I ask one thing here, Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking other's postings is not nice ;-) (editing the subject...) Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for hotmail one. http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and gmail? Yes, why not? :-? Seems Postfix is heavy for me? Postfix is an e-mail server (MTA) not an e-mail client (MUA) like Icedove. It's another kind of beast :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.12.05...@gmail.com
Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 09:03:38AM +0100, Joe wrote: On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:48:33 -0400 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. Thanks for the help. Strange why that line isn't there aye? Sudo in sid has just been updated to a version with a different sudoers file format. Those who opted for a new configuration file got the empty one quoted above, those who opted to keep theirs kept their own additions to the old one. The latter also ended up with a sudo which couldn't see sbin and the lower level sbins, which then stopped further updates from working under sudo... possibly a changelog would have been in order? The clean new sudoers was also provided (as the .dpkg-dist file), so it wasn't too hard to combine the two (clue: the Defaults secure_path configuration is necessary to restore the path to include the sbins). -- Joe --end quoted text-- Thanks for the explanation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904120624.ga1...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:04:20AM +, darkestkhan wrote: 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com: On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote: /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only limited privileges) at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line: username ALL=(ALL) ALL where username is the name of user that will have root level privileges, so in my case it is like this: darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work ---end quoted text--- Cool. Thanks for the help. Strange why that line isn't there aye? Well, probably because maintainers can't be sure about which user should have root level privileges, so it has actualized file without asking question whether it should do so (this one is because of synaptic, can't blame it - most (nontechnical) users won't notice those changes, and in most cases system doesn't brake). As I'm updating from command line I got information about changes in /etc/sudoers but I decided to handle this manually as tool for merging changes in config files is not too helpful (but it could be, arch and gentoo are doing much better in this aspect) darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. ---end quoted text--- Unfortuantely the suggested fix didn't work. Must have something to do with PAM? Doesn't PAM interact with the Keychain and maybe SUDOERS to authorize a user wanting to run for example, Synaptic? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904121033.gb1...@thinkpad.gateway.2wire.net
Re: MTU and Postfix
04.09.2011 12:40, Camaleón: I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-) I don't see any gotchas besides the obvious one: the throughput is decreased somewhat, since on average more packets are needed to transmit the same amount of payload. OTOH, in my experience, when you can work around transmission problems by lowering the MTU, almost always someone has b0rked his packet filter and throws away those ultra-evil ICMP packets like Fragmentation Needed or Time Exceeded in Transit etc. If you're sure you're not the one killing ICMP and the problems only occur with specific sites, it might be helpful to have the administrators of those sites check their firewall configuration. -- Regards mks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4e6369aa.6000...@list-post.mks-mail.de
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I've been busy on these days trying to solve a problem with Postfix that drove me nuts. Sporadically (let's say one in hundred e-mails) my Postfix had problems for delivering messages with ~3 MiB of attachment to some e-mail hosts. DSN service returned the final notice of delivery to the user and logs displayed an error like timed out while sending message body. These hosts were not of those difficult ones like Hotmail, Gmail, Yahoo! or the like that because to their high volume of traffic implement additional (and sometimes strambotic) measures to prevent spam and such anti-all systems that may require a different transport definiton in Postfix to get e-mails delivered. Moreover, these hosts were not e-mail servers that are behind Cisco PIX devices or using MS Exchange servers that are also well-known to be conflictive to dialogue with. Nope, I was having problems for delivering to common, small hosts of mid- size companies, one of the hosts running a Debian system, like mine. So I had to run some tests to find out what could be the problem here. I first tried to define a less conservative values (by increasing the time) for smtp_data_done_timeout, smtp_data_xfer_timeout and smtp_data_init_timeout but this had no effect at all and again, some e- mails were still undelivered. Googling around I found some posts and articles¹ pointing to the MTU value (my bonded interface was set by default to 1500) and as I had nothing to lose, I changed this and lowered to 1400. This turned out to work wonders and since then (that's more than a week ago) I still had no other DSN delivery errors. Besides, e-mails in deferred queue that could not be sent in that time, after lowering the MTU value were also delivered with no apparent problems. I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? The server has dual gigabit NIC which are bonded (in backup mode) and server itself is behind a FTTH gigabit router. The server also hosts a web server. Any comments or experiences on this are welcome :-) ¹http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/cours/postfix/doc/faq.html#timeouts You might want to try the postfix mailing list and see if they have any ideas. Be prepared for cold, hard, terse answers. They don't chat much - busy I guess. Was the previous MTU of 1500, a value you had set, or the default when queried? I'm wondering because of a recent experience I had tweaking MTU. I wanted to try jumbo frames to improve samba throughput on large video files. With MTU set to 9000 on Linux and Windows, throughput increased about 8 times. But it caused problems with the web service on Linux, which was running a domain under dyndns. I set the MTU on Linux back to unspecified, but left the jumbo frame active on Windows side. The performance was still very good in large samba file transfers. I might remember this wrong, but it seemed it was worse performance when Linux side specified 1500, so I left it as unspecified and it has worked well. I still get high transfer speeds in samba with unspecified MTU on Linux but jumbo of 9000 MTU on Windows side. BTW, 1492 is a common MTU seen in FAQs. You might get just as good with that.
Re: MTU and Postfix
HI, On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:40:29AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-) Greetings, Some router between you and outside have issue, I guess. It is a bit complicated. My best effort information is here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_finding_optimal_mtu Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904115651.ga8...@debian.org
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:33:41 +0800, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Reply: Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three times. Ouch! The thread was just about MTU and I asked if it is fine to adjust that value with bonded NICs... May I ask one thing here, Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking other's postings is not nice ;-) Hijacking is a big word for me to afford, sorry to just take a lift there. (editing the subject...) Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for hotmail one. http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm Thanks for the URL you provided, actually last time I met this webpage. Mine windows live email address is a bit different, not ends up with the traditional one like .hotmail or something like this. It's associated with some other things. I will check further and see (mostly the same as last time, not solved and put aside). the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured. Thanks, Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and gmail? Yes, why not? :-? Seems Postfix is heavy for me? Postfix is an e-mail server (MTA) not an e-mail client (MUA) like Icedove. It's another kind of beast :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.12.05...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmm6vhgzpfu4k9dyp8k5v5d77wjsjjhhty9qk9dy3r_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Holiday Project for my job
On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:35:12AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote: I am trying to set up several Linux desktops for a secure (locked) facility for troubled teenagers. I brought one home to set up (so I can have unfettered internet access) but then I need to be able to 'clone' it to others without internet access (so package retrieval is impossible unless I bring home every single desktop; and we are talking about up to 50). So I need advice on the following: 1. Which distro to use? I've used Mint before in a similar setting (and was pleased) but I'm now stuck with 6 year old Dells with almost no video acceleration and .5 G memory each. I'm thinking XFCE with Mint or Xbuntu, but am open to others (even a stock debian install which I use on my home machine) but I will not be able to update unless I do so manually (which a CD or thumbdrive). 2. How do I 'clone' the machine to a CD or, preferably, a thumb drive so I can install the same configuration to all machines (limiting menu options, put in educational games, add openoffice or libreoffice, etc.)? If the computers are networked (internet is not necessary), then you can make a single image to serve all the computers using one of the following methods. 1) Debian Live netboot 2) LTSP kiosk mode Both of these will allow you to keep a pristine image that only you update (and you only have to update it on a single machine). When a client boots, it gets its OS over the network. It always gets a pristine copy of the image on each boot. Let me know if you need more details. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904124807.ga12...@aurora.owens.net
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011, Mike Castle wrote: On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote: just a word of warning: on absolutely no account, not for any reason, should you buy WD Green drives. i've just spent a hair-raising 6 weeks discovering that these drives, when pushed above a mere 40 Centigrade, become so unstable that they can actually become completely unresponsive, shut down, and leave the linux kernel in a completely unstable state, especially if they are part of a RAID1 mirror. For what it's worth, WD _does_ say not to use Green drives in RAID and such. http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1397 They do so because the drive can take arbritarily long times to complete a request when it faces any media issues or firmware snafu's, and most RAID can't cope well with that (md can, but you *have* to set up the per-backing-device timeouts properly). If the drives are dying from overheat, that's something else entirely. However, do NOT do anything as foolhardy as trusting the firmware on those devices to actually be able to handle SMART attribute read requests properly doing intensive IO (or the kernel, or the SATA HBA). Stuff like running hddtemp once a minute is a very bad idea. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904125401.ga21...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: more woes with my debian install: booting edition
On Saturday 03 September 2011 4:53:02 pm jeremy jozwik wrote: 1. Did you do a media check (sha1sum or whatever) on the install CD? nope. though during my troubleshooting of debian 6.0.2 i used my known to be working debian 5.0.2 install disk and received the same results. black screen after installer menu. My current suspect list for your problems: Bad CD Incompatible version (64 bit) for your video card. Bad CD drive. OK. here are suggestions to eliminate 2 possible sources of problems? First, test the CD. Second, can you get to the point where you choose the installation mode? If so, can you select a non-graphical(text) mode install? Does that work? The fact that you can get the gpartd CD to boot is a good sign. Thirdd, download and try a 32 bit CD. I recall seeing some problems with some video cards and the 64 bit distro. I looked up your card, it is 4 years old, and should be well supported, but you just don't know. Another thought: Do you have a different CD drive available? Can you beg/borrow one to see if the drive is faulty? 2. Can you please state what your PC specs are for CPU, RAM, video and interfaces? (IDE, USB, etc) Does the CD that you downloaded match your hardware specs? dual dual core amd opteron 2.6ghz 64 bit tyan s2915 main board 12 gig ram nvidia quadro 5600 vid card 3 sata drives, boot drive partitioned with half windows XP 64bit and half debian squeeze --- operating system with errors. yes, i downloaded the amd64 arch. Nice and high end. Here, I run into my limit of being able to help you. I have no experience with dual CPU installations. It **shouldn't matter** (TM), but it is another variable to explore. 3. What evidence do you have that the PC hardware is not at fault? windows runs 100% fine. gparted boots from live cd, in the process of testing a unbuntu usb live os. 4. Have you tried a complete reinstall? no, install leads to hanging black screen infinity after install menu option is chosen. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109040908.51056.m...@neidorff.com
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:42:30 +0800, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) May I ask one thing here, Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking other's postings is not nice ;-) Hijacking is a big word for me to afford, sorry to just take a lift there. Don't get it wrong :-) The term hijacking when used for mailing list threads is a common slang to indicate that someone has replied to a post and changed the main topic: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thread%20hijacking Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for hotmail one. http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm Thanks for the URL you provided, actually last time I met this webpage. Mine windows live email address is a bit different, not ends up with the traditional one like .hotmail or something like this. It's associated with some other things. I will check further and see (mostly the same as last time, not solved and put aside). Then you should read the FAQ of your former e-mail server provider for setting up smtp service :-? the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured. Yep, but remember you can always use a manual setup to configure your accounts. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.13.17...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:42:30 +0800, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: (...) May I ask one thing here, Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking other's postings is not nice ;-) Hijacking is a big word for me to afford, sorry to just take a lift there. Don't get it wrong :-) The term hijacking when used for mailing list threads is a common slang to indicate that someone has replied to a post and changed the main topic: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thread%20hijacking Thanks, I really know so little. Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for hotmail one. http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm Thanks for the URL you provided, actually last time I met this webpage. Mine windows live email address is a bit different, not ends up with the traditional one like .hotmail or something like this. It's associated with some other things. I will check further and see (mostly the same as last time, not solved and put aside). Then you should read the FAQ of your former e-mail server provider for setting up smtp service :-? They only provided some typical one, last time I also adapt the thunderbird one, did not work. the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured. A bit unexpected, by browser, my gmail for debian mailing list I only kept recent 1610 emails (around). but the icedove was busy downloading, reached 6 thousands and more. Frankly speaking, I removed the icedove again. and back to check emails on iceweasle. It's a better choice for me I guess. Thanks again, Yep, but remember you can always use a manual setup to configure your accounts. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJm=n3oaaw_sk0fwpflz_onodbhpaxhxqjsfppo-nnb6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:56:51 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: HI, On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:40:29AM +, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-) Some router between you and outside have issue, I guess. It is a bit complicated. My best effort information is here: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_finding_optimal_mtu Thanks... I should have imagined there must be something about this in the manual :-) I was indeed making that kind of tests to value what MTU size was the best for that specific case and tried first with 1492 but messages were still left in deferred queue. Once I changed to 1400 all of the pending postings could finally be delivered. I have now setup the bonded interface to stick to this MTU (1400) as stated in section 5.8.2. Setting MTU. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.13.30...@gmail.com
Re: [alsa-devel] No sound on Asus EeePC 1215b (hda-intel)
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 11:18:39AM +0200, David Henningsson wrote: On 09/01/2011 12:08 AM, Touko Korpela wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:42:02PM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote: Touko Korpela wrote: No sound is heard (but mixer is not muted). Shouldn't mixer have more channels to adjust? 00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 1314 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 40) Your default sound device is the device that happened to be detected first, which is your GPU's HDMI output. Tell whatever sound configuration tool is used in your distribution to use the other sound device. Shouldn't that be hidden when HDMI cable is not plugged (like now)? I'm working on hiding exactly that at the UI level (gnome/pulseaudio level rather than ALSA), but that is a long-term goal and not all pieces are into place yet. Does this kind of system work for someone? A very similar machine, Asus 1215P [1], was enabled by the team I'm involved with, so yes, it definitely works for someone, and it would surprise me if it does not work out of the box from an Ubuntu 11.10 Beta Live-CD even though the link says pre-install only. You could try this terminal command: speaker-test -D plughw:SB -c 2 -t sine And see if that outputs sound (try both headphones and internal speakers). I tested that command and it works. Now just have to figure out the right way to select default sound output device (on Debian). Ideally it should work automatically. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20110904131557.GA25946@tiikeri.vuoristo.local
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:06:02 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote: 04.09.2011 12:40, Camaleón: I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide? (...) Mmm, no replies yet... Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-) I don't see any gotchas besides the obvious one: the throughput is decreased somewhat, since on average more packets are needed to transmit the same amount of payload. OTOH, in my experience, when you can work around transmission problems by lowering the MTU, almost always someone has b0rked his packet filter and throws away those ultra-evil ICMP packets like Fragmentation Needed or Time Exceeded in Transit etc. If you're sure you're not the one killing ICMP and the problems only occur with specific sites, it might be helpful to have the administrators of those sites check their firewall configuration. I agree. The best way to sort out these problems is by carrying out additional tests with the host we were experiencing problems but I've had not very good experiences when contacting Spanish admins, most of them just don't reply at all or are not interested in solving this problematic ;-( Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.13.39...@gmail.com
Re: MTU and Postfix
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:14:45 -0300, D G Teed wrote: On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: I've been busy on these days trying to solve a problem with Postfix that drove me nuts. Sporadically (let's say one in hundred e-mails) my Postfix had problems for delivering messages with ~3 MiB of attachment to some e-mail hosts. DSN service returned the final notice of delivery to the user and logs displayed an error like timed out while sending message body. (...) Googling around I found some posts and articles¹ pointing to the MTU value (my bonded interface was set by default to 1500) and as I had nothing to lose, I changed this and lowered to 1400. (...) You might want to try the postfix mailing list and see if they have any ideas. Be prepared for cold, hard, terse answers. They don't chat much - busy I guess. :-) Should I couldn't solve the problem, sure, I would had to post in there. The fact is I like Postfix so much, I find it very flexible and easy to deal with but in specific case, I didn't think the app was the culprit but as Osamu has pointed out, a router or a filter (firewall) in between our hosts making noise. Was the previous MTU of 1500, a value you had set, or the default when queried? 1500 was the default MTU value for the bonded interfaces. I thinks is the system default for ethernet devices nowadays. I'm wondering because of a recent experience I had tweaking MTU. I wanted to try jumbo frames to improve samba throughput on large video files. With MTU set to 9000 on Linux and Windows, throughput increased about 8 times. But it caused problems with the web service on Linux, which was running a domain under dyndns. I set the MTU on Linux back to unspecified, but left the jumbo frame active on Windows side. The performance was still very good in large samba file transfers. I might remember this wrong, but it seemed it was worse performance when Linux side specified 1500, so I left it as unspecified and it has worked well. I still get high transfer speeds in samba with unspecified MTU on Linux but jumbo of 9000 MTU on Windows side. That was exactly the kind of problems I would like to avoid :-) But as you said, lower values for MTU are not prone to errors or conflicts but higher ones (like jumbo frames). I hope performance is not badly penalized for having a low value, though... BTW, 1492 is a common MTU seen in FAQs. You might get just as good with that. MTU is now set at 1400. The host I was trying to contact seemed to be fine with that setting so I kept it so. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.13.52...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0800, lina wrote: the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured. A bit unexpected, by browser, my gmail for debian mailing list I only kept recent 1610 emails (around). but the icedove was busy downloading, reached 6 thousands and more. Frankly speaking, I removed the icedove again. and back to check emails on iceweasle. It's a better choice for me I guess. Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download. Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.13.57...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0800, lina wrote: the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured. A bit unexpected, by browser, my gmail for debian mailing list I only kept recent 1610 emails (around). but the icedove was busy downloading, reached 6 thousands and more. Frankly speaking, I removed the icedove again. and back to check emails on iceweasle. It's a better choice for me I guess. Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have inbox/folders ? I have inbox and different folders ( folders are not in the inbox directory). clean up? stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download. Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove? IMAP. P.S Before I tried the icedove, mainly just wanna download thousands of emails from windows live account to backup (It's kind of official email box I used for years). Right now I wonder I maybe do backup in different machine, such as use outlook. will try another time. Thanks again, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmkj92mx6yj3zp4bcf3pjc-5pqjvd5ayurkbnyg9obw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:34:09 +0800, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have inbox/folders ? Yes. If you have all of your messages stored/archived in your inbox Icedove will suffer to download/get all that amount of data. It's better to have sub-folders so you can classify your e-mails and put in there a small set of messages. I have inbox and different folders ( folders are not in the inbox directory). Hum... are that Gmail default folders (sent/all/trash...) or have you manually created them? clean up? Yep :-) Gmail has the strange ability to fill up very quickly and we tend to forget to completely remove e-mails that we don't want anymore. It's the price we have to pay in this cloud-based world: we forget about basic maintenance and let the provider to do the dirty job. stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download. Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove? IMAP. Then arrange your inbox and let Ivecove to gather the data. The first time will take some time but once it indexes and caches the folder it will be quicker. P.S Before I tried the icedove, mainly just wanna download thousands of emails from windows live account to backup (It's kind of official email box I used for years). Right now I wonder I maybe do backup in different machine, such as use outlook. will try another time. I guess Outlook will suffer for the same as Icedove (it will be slow). But if you want to make a backup for a small set of messages, I think there are specialized tools to achieve that task (e.g., gmail backup). Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.14.56...@gmail.com
Re: more woes with my debian install: booting edition
On Saturday 03 September 2011 04:01:56 jeremy jozwik wrote: todays issue is a flashing underscore after the grub bootloaded bootloads the debian image. I wonder whether your image is for some reason misregistering on the monitor and moving too far to the left? You *should* get a flashing underscore after booting into recovery mode, and it is the signal to enter your root password. Have you tried that? If so, have you tried adjusting your monitor so that the image moves to the right? Both of these would be worth trying, and reporting back on. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041606.30786.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: sources.list directory specification
On Sunday 04 September 2011 09:06:39 Scott Ferguson wrote: Just checked, Squeeze doesn't seem to auto-pin Interesting. I must obviously ensure that I keep a copy of my Lenny preferences file! I have not yet installed any backports on Squeeze. I only install backports if and when I have a good reason for wanting them, and not willy nilly. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201109041611.31193.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:34:09 +0800, lina wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have inbox/folders ? Yes. If you have all of your messages stored/archived in your inbox Icedove will suffer to download/get all that amount of data. It's better to have sub-folders so you can classify your e-mails and put in there a small set of messages. I have inbox and different folders ( folders are not in the inbox directory). Hum... are that Gmail default folders (sent/all/trash...) or have you manually created them? In Gamil interface ( on browser) it has filters function. Actually even I only touch the debian less than two years, but last 15 years I spent long time with Windows. Shame, I still know so little after so many years passed. clean up? Yep :-) I cleaned nearly all. Gmail has the strange ability to fill up very quickly and we tend to forget to completely remove e-mails that we don't want anymore. It's the price we have to pay in this cloud-based world: we forget about basic maintenance and let the provider to do the dirty job. stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download. Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove? IMAP. Then arrange your inbox and let Ivecove to gather the data. The first time will take some time but once it indexes and caches the folder it will be quicker. P.S Before I tried the icedove, mainly just wanna download thousands of emails from windows live account to backup (It's kind of official email box I used for years). Right now I wonder I maybe do backup in different machine, such as use outlook. will try another time. I guess Outlook will suffer for the same as Icedove (it will be slow). But if you want to make a backup for a small set of messages, I think there are specialized tools to achieve that task (e.g., gmail backup). Thanks again, Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.14.56...@gmail.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmkn0shsoi_ay-wetbpz7jiy932nccy5vld+l0thkvu...@mail.gmail.com
Re: multitouch
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:26:27 -0300, David Roguin wrote: I've succesfully installed Debian (wheezy) on a Macbook pro 8,1 and now the hard part is to make the hardware to work nicely ;) Currently, the touchpad works as a mouse with only one button and I'm trying to fix that following the wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro). I've installed mtrack (https://github.com/BlueDragonX/xf86-input-mtrack) as suggested, but It's not working properly, I'm not even sure if Xorg is loading the mtrack driver. Did you also configure Xorg to use that driver? I was looking for any pointer to check if the module is being loaded or if any error is being thrown. I would check Xorg's log (grep -i mtrack /var/log/Xorg.0.log) because I guess that driver it should be part of the Xorg's stack and not loaded as standalone module. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.16.26...@gmail.com
Ugly appearence after upgrade
Hi all, after an aptitude dist-upgrade to testing (and to unstable too) some GTK2 applications look ugly, like GTK1 appplications. Gnome-terminal and Epiphany are two of them. I tried install testing and after a aptitude upgrade the problem returned. Does anyone know how to solve this? Thnaks.
Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps
2011/9/4 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com: On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:04:20AM +, darkestkhan wrote: 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com: On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote: /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only limited privileges) at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line: username ALL=(ALL) ALL where username is the name of user that will have root level privileges, so in my case it is like this: darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work ---end quoted text--- Cool. Thanks for the help. Strange why that line isn't there aye? Well, probably because maintainers can't be sure about which user should have root level privileges, so it has actualized file without asking question whether it should do so (this one is because of synaptic, can't blame it - most (nontechnical) users won't notice those changes, and in most cases system doesn't brake). As I'm updating from command line I got information about changes in /etc/sudoers but I decided to handle this manually as tool for merging changes in config files is not too helpful (but it could be, arch and gentoo are doing much better in this aspect) Unfortuantely the suggested fix didn't work. Must have something to do with PAM? Doesn't PAM interact with the Keychain and maybe SUDOERS to authorize a user wanting to run for example, Synaptic? It should work... (there is space after right parenthesis (and it may be that you it should be username ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL but if it still doesn't work then I can't be of much help - it works for me, though, admittedly I don't use PAM so it may be that it does work until I will have to use something with PAM (or other similar solution). PS: It has to be noted that things worked well without merging changes in /etc/sudoers as long as programs were run by me - if program run by me with root privileges was running different program then I got errors that it can't find things in /sbin (and thus I knew that I have to look at changes in /etc/sudoers) darkestkhan -- Feel free to CC me. jid: darkestk...@gmail.com May The Source be with You. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cacrpbmgh3makmv8kespgmf6tgapafux86lzmehn+wv6mwya...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Ugly appearence after upgrade
On 2011-09-04 18:32 +0200, Chir0n wrote: Hi all, after an aptitude dist-upgrade to testing (and to unstable too) some GTK2 applications look ugly, like GTK1 appplications. Gnome-terminal and Epiphany are two of them. They are not, because they are not GTK2 applications anymore. This may be related to your problem, although gnome-terminal does not look ugly here (I don't use Epiphany). Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87k49ofd7o@turtle.gmx.de
Re: more woes with my debian install: booting edition
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Mark Neidorff m...@neidorff.com wrote: My current suspect list for your problems: Bad CD Incompatible version (64 bit) for your video card. Bad CD drive. things get interesting now. while talking to a buddy about this issue he wanted me to humor him by trying a unbuntu install. first try i got the same black screen nothing happening deal that i get with debian. but! while searching around on how to fix things like that in unbuntu i discovered the F6 menu, install options. trial and error got me to find ACPI=OFF which got the install to actually show. so i went into my bios and disabled ACPI, debian actually gets into the install. not only that but its actually boots into debian! ... only just. the video display is stuck at something horrible like 800x### with no other options then 640x###. likewise debian cannot read my monitor or detect the secondary one. both of these were possible in the very first time debian installed. the time when i went so far as to install other programs. both my dell monitors showed and were able to display in there native 1024+ resolutions. once i turn ACPI back to on, nothing works again. OK. here are suggestions to eliminate 2 possible sources of problems? First, test the CD. i have a second cd rom... but its less reliable then the one installed to the machine! Second, can you get to the point where you choose the installation mode? If so, can you select a non-graphical(text) mode install? Does that work? The fact that you can get the gpartd CD to boot is a good sign. Thirdd, download and try a 32 bit CD. I recall seeing some problems with some video cards and the 64 bit distro. I looked up your card, it is 4 years old, and should be well supported, but you just don't know. Nice and high end. slow by CGI workstation standards... Here, I run into my limit of being able to help you. I have no experience with dual CPU installations. It **shouldn't matter** (TM), but it is another variable to explore. while mucking about on the internet i have come across this page[1]. and its important parts: Beware: Two Versions of Tyan n6650w (S2915 and S2915-E) The early release of the Tyan Thunder n6650W (called S2915) only supported the second generation dual-core 2200-series (or 8000-series) processors. There were numerous problems associated with the BIOS (ver. 1.00). Since then Tyan has fixed all known problems; and then, they released the new version (S2915-E). Without being aware of this, I previously obtained the S2915 (about a year ago) thinking that it supported quad-core processors. My mistake for not checking Tyan web site prior to purchasing it, but because I found it cheap on eBay, as in retrospect I was sure the previous owner tried to get rid of it. I encountered various problems from not being able to successfully boot into Linux to BIOS configuration issues that underrated the CPU performance. In fact, without knowing the support issue, I first tried to put two quad-core processors only to find out the system did not boot. Originally, I used two dual-core 2216 (2.6GHz) and found various strange inconsistent benchmark scores by SiSoft Sandra XII (2008). The CPU's Arithmetic and Multimedia scores were so low that I was forced to suspect they were due to software compatibility. Strangely enough, I played around with the BIOS, setting different multiprocessor specification, including ECC options, Hammer HT setting as well as OS installed preference. The benchmark scores yielded differently for each test. One instance, the score yielded On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote: I wonder whether your image is for some reason misregistering on the monitor and moving too far to the left? You *should* get a flashing underscore after booting into recovery mode, and it is the signal to enter your root password. Have you tried that? that is 100% my fail as a photographer. there is a flashing _ _ _ _ at the bottom left, but no keyboard inputs seem to make a bit of difference. If so, have you tried adjusting your monitor so that the image moves to the right? LCD = no adjustments. thanks a lot for help on this very annoying issue. i do appreciate it. [1]http://www.epinions.com/review/Tyan_Thunder_n6650W_S2915_E_Workstation_Board_nVIDIA_Socket_F_1207_1000MHz_HT_64GB_DDR_Motherboard/content_471274262148 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAN=ioV=ygr3jz15v00tjrrokcpqentj8i3m6pnpiussahkr...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Ugly appearence after upgrade
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:32:57 -0300, Chir0n wrote: after an aptitude dist-upgrade to testing (and to unstable too) some GTK2 applications look ugly, like GTK1 appplications. Yep, here also, at least in my VM that runs wheezy (scrolls and menus are like GTK1 old-style). Gnome-terminal and Epiphany are two of them. I tried install testing and after a aptitude upgrade the problem returned. Does anyone know how to solve this? I guess this is something related to the migration to GTK3 and GNOME3. I'd say we have to be patient. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.09.04.17.19...@gmail.com
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On 09/04/2011 03:41 AM, shawn wilson wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org mailto:mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com mailto:lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably got his wish :) It's been a few years since I retired, but I remember the IT guys replacing a _lot_ of Western Digital drives. I guess the company bought them because they were cheaper, but I don't think they saved any money. For my own use, I have been using Seagate and Hitachi, and have had no trouble in quite some time. Obviously, YMMV, but what I saw sould not encourage me to buy WD. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sep 4, 2011 7:53 AM, D G Teed donald.t...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably got his wish :) Well, actually, you have all helped that to happen by broadening the topic. It wasn't about a brand, but about a brand and model type specifically. This is about Green WD drives, not all WD drives. My original response was to critisize the OP for sending out such an inflammatory and probably incorrect message. To me, it wasn't about the manufacture or the brand (I'm pretty sure I've got Seagate discs) but about the flawed process that brought about his rant. Before buying anything important to you, or something you don't want to buy all over again because you are careful with money, you should research the consumer reaction or solicit opinions on it. This is also true. See, a few years ago linux didn't have drivers for everything and you had to research components or there was a 60% or more chance it won't work. Granted, there shouldn't have ever been any discs that wouldn't work in a system. However researching all other components got me in the mindset to always look before I buy. Actually, linux is probably the main reason I can't buy anything in a store (besides DVDs, clothes, and groceries and that's literally it) because there's no computer there for me to research what I'm buying and compare prices. Yes I have my phone if I'm in a store but I generally find I don't want to buy that product or at least there, so why bother. I researched the green drives from all makers and learned they are engineered to do one thing well: save power while in a desktop not in use. They are not designed for servers, nor even for intense computing use like gaming or RAID. I also noticed consumer backlash on all green drives, and cheaper pricing on green drives than any other kind (fire sale at some retailers). So I did not buy green drives. I have used WD blue SATA 1TB drives in a couple of servers with RAID 1 and there is no problem. The most intense server using them is running cyrus mail, and horde webmail, for about 3000 mailboxes and probably 500 users visiting their mailboxes every day. The horde webmail on there also serves users of another cyrus system with 4000 more active mailboxes on it. The system is backed up nightly with EMC networker, and runs in a room with air conditioning. Right now, early on a Sunday morning, the load is only .35 and the hard drive internal temperature from smartctl is 37 C. I imagine it does go above 40 when loaded or under full backup duty. :)
Re: sharing one r/w unix filesystem between different machines and users
Putting a directory like /tmp (with the same permissions on the USB drive) would allow any user to create files and directories there. If this user sets permissions for own files to allow others to read and write, any other user is able to overwrite the contents of this files. Any user can mount the drive with the pmount command. The ownership and permissions are stored in the filesystem on the USB drive. -- Best regards, Jörg-Volker. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j40dal$h04$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)
On Sep 4, 2011 1:28 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote: On 09/04/2011 03:41 AM, shawn wilson wrote: On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote: lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes: just guess ... might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD, so the stores only sold WD. Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one... I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up. Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably got his wish :) It's been a few years since I retired, but I remember the IT guys replacing a _lot_ of Western Digital drives. I guess the company bought them because they were cheaper, but I don't think they saved any money. For my own use, I have been using Seagate and Hitachi, and have had no trouble in quite some time. Obviously, YMMV, but what I saw sould not encourage me to buy WD. So, if I have 1000 computers with 1000 WD discs and nothing else in them, how many Seagate discs will fail? Discs do fail and I look forward to someone posting the fail rate of different manufacturer discs. However the above statement doesn't seem to be based on logic.