Re: Debian et SSD

2011-09-04 Thread Erwan David
On 04/09/11 00:58, Gaëtan PERRIER wrote:
 Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:51:35 +0200
 Jean-Yves F. Barbier 12u...@gmail.com a écrit:
 

 On Sun, 4 Sep 2011 00:43:23 +0200, Gaëtan PERRIER gaetan.perr...@neuf.fr
 wrote:

 J'ai installé le paquet uswsusp de sid pour avoir la commande swap-offset
 et elle me donne bien l'offset que j'ai utilisé.


 Ah ben tient du coup l'hibernation fonctionne !
 Bizarre car ce paquet n'est plus dans testing depuis 2009, il n'est donc
 pas dans squeeze. Est-ce qu'il n'y a pas d'hibernation dans squeeze ?

 Ben si: j'ai installé le portable en question il y a 3 semaines et en
 squeeze. Par contre il a réapparu dans sid.

 
 J'y comprends rien. Sais-tu qu'est-ce qui gère l'hibernation en squeeze ?
 Ou alors c'est depuis que Gnome 3 est en partie dans testing que l'on aurait
 perdu l'hibernation ?
 
 Gaëtan
 

Personnellement j'ai de l'hibernation en squeeze. Mais avec KDE, je
n'utilise pas gnome.

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Re: lire cd audio ou dvd via nbd

2011-09-04 Thread Frederic LAPERRIERE

Le 29/08/2011 14:00, Jérôme a écrit :

Le dimanche 28 août 2011 à 15:25 +0200, Frederic LAPERRIERE a écrit :

j'ai vu qu'un
périphérique de type bloc (tel un lecteur cd/dvd...) pouvait être
exploité en réseau via nbd.


Euh... sans m'être jamais penché sur le sujet, un cd/dvd audio-video
est-il vraiment un périphérique de type bloc ? C'est un format spécial,
j'ai un doute sérieux. D'ailleurs pour y accéder de manière
standard (fichiers) il y a des outils intermédiaires dans gnome ou
ailleurs.



Bonjour Jerome et merci pour votre aide (et désolé pour la lenteur de ma 
réponse...)


 un cd/dvd audio-video est-il vraiment un périphérique de type bloc ? 

bonne question, mais pour l'avoir essayé , le fait de le traiter comme 
un système de fichiers ( et donc de passer par nfs et non plus nbd ) ne 
donne pas le résultat escompté, mais effectivement, votre point de vue 
est intéressant donc à creuser


bien cordialement

Frederic

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Re: lire cd audio ou dvd via nbd

2011-09-04 Thread Frederic LAPERRIERE

Le 30/08/2011 13:40, Frédéric Boiteux a écrit :

Le Sun, 28 Aug 2011 15:25:54 +0200,
Frederic LAPERRIEREflaperri...@free.fr  a écrit :


Bonjour à tous,

Voici mon problème :

En usage courant , je me sers d'un notebook (eeepc) [ gui : icewm ]
donc non pourvu d'un lecteur de cd/dvd. Il est connecté via un câble
réseau à une tour (pc_a) [ aucune gui, administré via ssh depuis le
notebook ], qui est elle équipée d'un lecteur. les deux tournent sous
lenny.
…


Bonjour,

   Pour voir un DVD déporté, tu pourrais sans doute utiliser VLC dans sa
capacité à transporter de la vidéo sur un réseau local (je crois que
c'était fait spécialement pour cela au départ).

 Fred.


Bonjour Homonyme :::)))

Merci pour votre aide ( et désolé pour la lenteur de ma réponse...)

J'avais omis de le préciser dans mon post initial, mais l'essai sous vlc 
me domande aussi de pointer sur une cible qui est dixit le message 
d'erreure, unable to read.


bien cordialement

Homonyme :::)))

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Re: Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement?

2011-09-04 Thread Frederic LAPERRIERE

Le 02/09/2011 15:50, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit :

Bonjour.

Tout est dans le titre.
Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement?
Je suis obligé de faire un ifup eth0
Mon /etc/network/interfaces ressemble à ça, pourtant eth0 n'est pas
monté automatiquement.

# The loopback network interface
auto lo eth0
iface lo inet loopback

iface eth0 inet static
allow-hotplug eth0
address 192.168.99.40
network 192.168.99.0
broadcast 192.168.99.255
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.99.250
dns-nameservers 192.168.99.36 192.168.99.37
dns-search oX-..fr




Bonjour Olivier,

Question bête : peut on avoir dans la meme configuration les paramètres 
auto ethX et allow-hotplug ethX ?? De même, que se passe t'il si tu 
transformes auto lo eth0 par auto lo puis ton allow-hotplug eth0 
par auto eth0 ?


bien cordialement

Frederic

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Re: Kernel failure

2011-09-04 Thread Frederic LAPERRIERE

Le 02/09/2011 15:40, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit :

Bonjour

Sur un serveur, j'ai un message récurrent de kernel failure.
Est ce que quelqu'un aurait une idée?

Ca donne ça :

Kernel failure message 1:
[ cut here ]
kernel BUG at
/build/buildd-linux-2.6_2.6.32-30-amd64-d4MbNM/linux-2.6-2.6.32/debian/build/source_amd64_none/mm/slub.c:2969!
invalid opcode:  [#1] SMP
last sysfs file: /sys/devices/platform/i5k_amb.0/temp4_input
CPU 0
Modules linked in: cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_userspace cpufreq_stats
cpufreq_conservative parport_pc ppdev lp parport sco bridge stp bnep
rfcomm l2cap bluetooth rfkill binfmt_misc fuse nfsd exportfs nfs lockd
fscache nfs_acl auth_rpcgss sunrpc ext3 jbd loop radeon ttm
drm_kms_helper drm i2c_algo_bit i5000_edac i2c_core edac_core rng_core
i5k_amb shpchp pci_hotplug joydev dcdbas psmouse evdev pcspkr serio_raw
button processor ext4 mbcache jbd2 crc16 usbhid hid sg sd_mod crc_t10dif
sr_mod ses enclosure cdrom ata_generic ata_piix uhci_hcd libata ehci_hcd
megaraid_sas bnx2 thermal thermal_sys scsi_mod usbcore nls_base [last
unloaded: scsi_wait_scan]
Pid: 2395, comm: update-notifier Not tainted 2.6.32-5-amd64 #1 PowerEdge
2950
RIP: 0010:[810e6fcf]  [810e6fcf] kfree+0x55/0xcb
RSP: 0018:88011d7d9e28  EFLAGS: 00010246
RAX: 0208 RBX: 88012c508af8 RCX: 88012c508b10
RDX: 8800fd00 RSI: 0004 RDI: ea000380
RBP: 8801 R08: 88012d167810 R09: 81453f10
R10: 0020 R11: 81152c79 R12: 8111616b
R13: 0171e420 R14: 0004 R15: 880120e8ef00
FS:  7f1cc7df47a0() GS:88000540() knlGS:
CS:  0010 DS:  ES:  CR0: 80050033
CR2: 01759000 CR3: 00011d7d6000 CR4: 06f0
DR0:  DR1:  DR2: 
DR3:  DR6: 0ff0 DR7: 0400
Process update-notifier (pid: 2395, threadinfo 88011d7d8000, task
88012d167810)
Stack:
  88012c508af8 88012c508af8 0010 8111616b
0  0020 81118346 88011d7a1b80 88012d167810
0  03e0 0171e400 88012d7b8cc0 880120e8ef58
Call Trace:
  [8111616b] ? fsnotify_put_event+0x3d/0x4f
  [81118346] ? inotify_read+0x1e2/0x26a
  [81064d2a] ? autoremove_wake_function+0x0/0x2e
  [810ef252] ? vfs_read+0xa6/0xff
  [810ef367] ? sys_read+0x45/0x6e
  [81010b42] ? system_call_fastpath+0x16/0x1b
Code: 83 c3 08 48 83 3b 00 eb ec 48 83 fd 10 0f 86 89 00 00 00 48 89 ef
e8 b9 e8 ff ff 48 89 c7 48 8b 00 84 c0 78 13 66 a9 00 c0 75 040f  0b
eb fe 5b 5d 41 5c e9 d8 56 fd ff 48 8b 4c 24 18 4c 8b 4f
RIP  [810e6fcf] kfree+0x55/0xcb
  RSP88011d7d9e28
---[ end trace be6aeadf806469ff ]---



Bonjour Olivier,

euhton problème est venu comme ça, ou suite à une mise à jour , 
installation d'un nouveau paquet etc? Je n'y connais rien dès 
qu'on rentre dans les entrailles du kernel mais pour essayer de 
retrouver ton serveur en prod assez rapidement, tu as un moyen un peu 
long et fastidieux mais souvent efficace, d'abord récupérer les sources 
( tu dois avoir un deb-src... dans /etc/apt/sources.list ) 
décompresser le fichier xxx.dsc obtenu (dpkg-source -x xxx.dsc) dans un 
repertoire prevu à cet effet, un make menuconfig des familles, 
recompiler (dpkg-buildpackage) puis installer le nouveau kernel ( dpkg 
-I... ).
En esperant que compiler un nouveau kernel depuis les sources puisse 
être un solution (il y en a surement plein d'autres) à ton problème, bon 
courage


bien cordialement

Frederic

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firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Bonjour,
J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer.
L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers 
elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK.
Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu.
Si je le lance à la main lpinfo  j'ai un retour direct sans message.
Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb.
Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant.
Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation.
A l'avance merci pour votre aide.
Philippe

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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread Bernard Schoenacker
Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200,
MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de
 configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait
 http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test
 impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo
 inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo  j'ai un retour direct sans
 message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb.
 Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est
 embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation.
 A l'avance merci pour votre aide.
 Philippe
 
bonjour,

serait il possible de trouver un équivalent à xpp ou de 
l'installer ...

xpp - X Printing Panel

que donne : dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}' |grep cups 

remarque : 

kde possède un panneau de configuration de son environnement et
il se nomme : kdeprint 

slt
bernard

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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread Papinux
Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :

 Bonjour,
 J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer.
 L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait http://localhost:631/printers 
 elle existe bien, je lance bien le test impression et c'est OK.
 Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu.
 Si je le lance à la main lpinfo  j'ai un retour direct sans message.
 Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb.
 Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant.
 Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation.
 A l'avance merci pour votre aide.
 Philippe

Bonjour,

Qu'est-ce que tu entends par  Firefox ne reconnait pas cette
imprimante ?

Les seules fois où Firefox ne m'indiquait pas d'imprimantes, c'est
lorsque j'utilisais une version 32bits sur une architecture 64bits.

A+

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Re: Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement?

2011-09-04 Thread Philippe

  
  
Le 04/09/2011 14:29, Frederic LAPERRIERE a écrit :
Le 02/09/2011 15:50, Olivier PAVILLA a écrit :
  
  Bonjour.


Tout est dans le titre.

Comment faire pour monter etho automatiquement?

Je suis obligé de faire un ifup eth0

Mon /etc/network/interfaces ressemble à ça, pourtant eth0 n'est
pas

monté automatiquement.


# The loopback network interface

auto lo eth0

iface lo inet loopback


iface eth0 inet static

allow-hotplug eth0

address 192.168.99.40

network    192.168.99.0

broadcast 192.168.99.255

netmask 255.255.255.0

gateway 192.168.99.250

dns-nameservers 192.168.99.36 192.168.99.37

dns-search oX-..fr




  
  Bonjour Olivier,
  
  
  Question bête : peut on avoir dans la meme configuration les
  paramètres "auto ethX" et "allow-hotplug ethX" ?? De même, que se
  passe t'il si tu transformes "auto lo eth0" par "auto lo" puis ton
  "allow-hotplug eth0" par "auto eth0" ?
  

j'ai que auto ethx pas de allow-hotplug ethx , et j ai auto lo 

ce qui donne :
 # The loopback network interface
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
    address .
philippe


  
  bien cordialement
  
  
  Frederic
  
  



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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le dimanche 4 septembre 2011 17:22:15, Bernard Schoenacker a écrit :
 Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200,
 
 MERLIN Philippe phil-deb1.mer...@laposte.net a écrit :
  Bonjour,
  J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de
  configurer. L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait
  http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test
  impression et c'est OK. Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo
  inconnu. Si je le lance à la main lpinfo  j'ai un retour direct sans
  message. Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb.
  Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est
  embètant. Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation.
  A l'avance merci pour votre aide.
  Philippe
 
 bonjour,
 
   serait il possible de trouver un équivalent à xpp ou de
   l'installer ...
 
   xpp - X Printing Panel
qu'apporte xpp ?
 
   que donne : dpkg -l |awk '{print $2}' |grep cups
Tous les paquets de Cups sont installés:
dpkg -l|grep cups   
   
ii  bluez-cups4.96-1
Bluetooth printer driver for CUPS   
  
ii  cups  1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - server
  
ii  cups-bsd  1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - BSD commands  
  
ii  cups-client   1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - client programs (SysV)
  
ii  cups-common   1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - common files  
  
ii  cups-driver-gutenprint5.2.7-2   
printer drivers for CUPS
  
ii  cups-pdf  2.5.1-4   
PDF printer for CUPS   
ii  cups-ppdc 1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipulation utilities
  
ii  ghostscript-cups  9.02~dfsg-3   
interpreter for the PostScript language and for PDF - CUPS filters
ii  hal-cups-utils0.6.16-3  
Utilities to detect and configure printers automatically
ii  hplip-cups3.11.7-1  HP 
Linux Printing and Imaging - CUPS Raster driver (hpcups)
rc  ia32-libcups2 1.3.11-1~22   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - libs
ii  libcups2  1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Core library
ii  libcupscgi1   1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - CGI library
ii  libcupsdriver11.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Driver library
ii  libcupsimage2 1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - Raster image library
ii  libcupsmime1  1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - MIME library
ii  libcupsppdc1  1.5.0-5   
Common UNIX Printing System(tm) - PPD manipulation library
rc  libgnomecups1.0-1 0.2.3-3+b1
GNOME library for CUPS interaction
ii  python-cups   1.9.48-1+b1   
Python bindings for CUPS
ii  python-cupshelpers1.2.3-3   
Python utility modules around the CUPS printing system
ii  python-cupsutils  1.0.0-6   
Python utility modules around the CUPS printing system


 
   remarque :
 
   kde possède un panneau de configuration de son environnement et
   il se nomme : kdeprint
Je suis en SID AMD64 kde 4.6  et kdeprint n'existe plus, par contre au niveau 
de la configuration du système Kde /configuration de l'imprimante, l'imprimante 
est bien reconnue et le test est concluant et tous les logiciels: Kate,Libre 
Office reconnaissent et impriment sur l'imprimante
 
   slt
   bernard
Merci pour ta réponse.
Philippe

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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le dimanche 4 septembre 2011 17:23:20, Papinux a écrit :
 Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 16:45:43 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :
  Bonjour,
  J'ai un problème avec une imprimante locale que je viens de configurer.
  L'imprimante est reconnue de cups si je fait
  http://localhost:631/printers elle existe bien, je lance bien le test
  impression et c'est OK.
  Par contre au lancement de Cups j'ai lpinfo inconnu.
  Si je le lance à la main lpinfo  j'ai un retour direct sans message.
  Je peux imprimer par lp ou par Okular sans pb.
  Par contre Firefox ne reconnait pas cette imprimante ce qui est embètant.
  Je ne sais pas ou chercher l'erreur d'installation.
  A l'avance merci pour votre aide.
  Philippe
 
 Bonjour,
 
 Qu'est-ce que tu entends par  Firefox ne reconnait pas cette
 imprimante ?
 
 Les seules fois où Firefox ne m'indiquait pas d'imprimantes, c'est
 lorsque j'utilisais une version 32bits sur une architecture 64bits.
 
 A+
Si tu veux la liste des imprimantes disponibles est vide.
Je suis en sid AMD64 et firefox 6 (Standard).
Merci.
Philippe

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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread Papinux
Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:13:37 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :

[...]
 Si tu veux la liste des imprimantes disponibles est vide.
 Je suis en sid AMD64 et firefox 6 (Standard).
 Merci.
 Philippe

firefox 6.0 32 bits? donc c'est normal que tu n'ai pas les
imprimantes.

La version 64bits de firefox est là:
http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/6.0/linux-x86_64/fr/

A+

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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread MERLIN Philippe
Le dimanche 4 septembre 2011 20:46:49, Papinux a écrit :
 Le Sun, 4 Sep 2011 19:13:37 +0200, MERLIN Philippe a écrit :
 
 [...]
 
  Si tu veux la liste des imprimantes disponibles est vide.
  Je suis en sid AMD64 et firefox 6 (Standard).
  Merci.
  Philippe
 
 firefox 6.0 32 bits? donc c'est normal que tu n'ai pas les
 imprimantes.
 
 La version 64bits de firefox est là:
 http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/6.0/linux-x86_
 64/fr/
 
 A+
Merci pour l'info, mais j'avais cru lire que le site mozilla reconnaissait un 
linux 32 bit ou 64 bits et alors téléchargeait le bon Firefox ?
Me suis je trompé ?
A+
Philippe

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Re: firefox cups lpinfo

2011-09-04 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2011-09-04 21:50:34 +0200, MERLIN Philippe wrote:
 Merci pour l'info, mais j'avais cru lire que le site mozilla reconnaissait un 
 linux 32 bit ou 64 bits et alors téléchargeait le bon Firefox ?
 Me suis je trompé ?

Oui: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=527907

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Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió:

 Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas
 carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda es
 pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea, es que
 no logro sacar de evolution la libreta  tal y como dicen en un manual
 que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un amigo me
 lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde evolution
 la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de antemano.

Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal fin.

man evolution-addressbook-export

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Re: Algo terrible que me paso...

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:44:17 -0430, Javier E. Navarro Salazar escribió:

 Este es mi primer mensaje en la lista, y es para contarle sobre algo
 terrible que me ocurrió.
 Iba a clonar un disco de instalación de Debian en una memoria USB con el
 comando dd, pero cometí un error, el comando fue: $ dd if=debian-iso
 of=/dev/sda
 Coloque sda por error, y yo juro que lo hice como usuario normal, pero
 convertí mi disco duro en un disco de instalación de Debian.
 
 ¿Alguien podría hablarme sobre el comando dd? 

¿Qué quieres saber? man dd

 ¿y por qué eso pudo pasar?

¿Porque pusiste mal el destino?

 ¿Creen que pueda haber un bug? Uso Debian Wheezy/Sid para AMD64, lo
 intente de nuevo, pero me devuelve ... permiso denegado.

Estarías como root o usaste sudo :-?

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Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió:

 El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 cheperobert :  en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre esta
 contestando... sera la misma? :)
 
 Exacto es la misma.

¿Un cruce de listas? :-)

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Re: Mensaje de error RT2500pci

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:41:03 -0500, garrent escribió:

(lamento el formato pero me es imposible mantener el original, no sabía 
que había clientes de correos tan tan remalotes...)

 ¿Cliente de correo? No uso. 

Sí, sí usas. En este caso es un webmail y no sé qué hacer pero:

1/ Deshila los mensajes
2/ Envía en formato html
3/ Hace top-posting

Vamos, una joyita.

Mira a ver si puedes resolver algunos de esos puntos.

 No he podido hechar a andar Evolution. 

En otro hilo nos lo cuentas, mejor.

 Ya preguntare sobre ello si no lo resuelvo  
 Contesto desde el portal de mi cuenta de correo. ¿Destrozar el hilo y
 el mensaje?  ¿Como debo contestar?Si pudieras explicarme por favor. 
 Es la primera vez que uso una lista de correos.¿O es otro hilo?Gracias

Comienza usando un cliente de correo que respeta el estándar porque el 
tuyo elimina datos importantes de la cabecera de los correos, 
concretamente el campo References: o In-Reply-To: con lo cual los 
mensajes no se mantienen en el mismo hilo o al menos yo lo veo 
completamente roto.

Sobre esto no puedes hacer nada salvo ponerlo en conocimiento de tu 
proveedor o cambiar de cliente de correo.

Lo que sí podrás cambiar será el envío en formato html, cambia eso y 
envía en formato texto porque tus correos se leen fatal en clientes que 
no usan html.

Después, cuando responsas escribe debajo del texto al que respondes, no 
encima.

Todas estas cosas las tienes descritas en las normas de la lista:

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

 La tarjeta  LinksysWirless PC  Adapter usa el chipset RT2500  
(disculpen la ignorancia)
 Como dije, con esa tarjeta es con la que me conecto al modem para salir 
 a internet. Y aparentemente no me da problemas mas que el mensaje de
 error

¿No da problemas, es decir, puedes navegar y configurarla correctamente? 
Entonces será un error del driver que es muy verboso y registra datos que 
no debe. Puedes informar de ese fallo para ver si lo solucionan.

 03:06.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2500 802.11g [1814:0201] 
(rev 01)

Esa es. 

Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios.

http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500#Drivers

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Re: Motherboard m810LN - sis630_smbus conflict, ac97 codec read TIMEOUT

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El 2011-09-03 a las 23:32 -0300, mordoc zero escribió:

(reenvío a la lista)

 Gracias por tus consejos, te comento que solo tengo 1 problema y es que no
 me funciona la aceleracion de video. 

Ah, eso es muy importante, ahora ya sabemos que ese bus es de la 
gráfica y que el problema no es tan grave :-)

 Todos los componentes fueron detectados. Al a bios la modifique y la 
 probe con todas las combinaciones posibles. Los sistemas operativos 
 arrancan, tengo arranque dual de Windows y Debian squeeze i386, ambos 
 funcionan, pero se traba mucho el entorno de video. El glxgears me da:
 
 glxgears
 376 frames in 5.0 seconds = 75.147 FPS

Entonces empieza por decirnos qué tarjeta gráfica monta tu equipo, qué 
driver estás usando y qué te dice el registro de xorg 
(/var/log/Xorg.0.log).

 En cuanto a los mensajes de error que publique, quisiera saber si alguien me
 puede ayudar a detectar a que se deben dichos mensajes y si estan
 relacionados con el desempeño de la maquina.

No creo que tengan relación. Si no tienes aceleración 3D lo notarás al 
ejecutar juegos o si usas efectos en el escritoro pero poco más, 
vamos, que los mensajes que ves relacionados con los recursos y el ACPI 
son harto normales en equipos antiguos y no tienen por qué indicar un 
problema por sí mismos.

Ten en cuenta que si el equipo tiene años y dispone de pocos recursos lo 
notarás lento casi seguro a no ser que instales algún DE ligero.

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Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?

2011-09-04 Thread cheperobert
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 03:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió:

 El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 cheperobert :  en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre esta
 contestando... sera la misma? :)

 Exacto es la misma.

 ¿Un cruce de listas? :-)
Si un miembro de la lista opensuse ha enviado un mensaje de  un hilo a
esta lista y sin percatarme le he contestado.

Disculpas por las molestias.

Saludos Camaleon


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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:44:11 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió:

(...)

 La forma de colaborar es eligiendo un mes que aún no cuente con cinco
 revisiones en el wiki, revisar el asunto de los mensajes dando clic en
 los que parezcan sospechosos, y reportar los mensajes de correo no
 deseado utilizando el botón de la parte superior derecha, por último hay
 que actualizar el wiki cambiando una estrella apagada por una iluminada
 e incluyendo su {nombre|iniciales|nick} en la revisión.

Fernando, gracias por estar pendiente de estas cosas :-)

Voy a poner un ejemplo práctico para ver si lo he entendido bien:

Supongamos que quiero limpiar los archivos de esta lista (debian-user-
spanish) de este año, 2011. Voy a esta página:

http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/SpanishSpamClean#A2011

Veo que enero sólo tiene una estrellita (1 revisión) así que lo elijo 
para depurar. Accedo al archivo de este mes:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/

Y busco mensajes que entiendo que son spam, como por ejemplo, este:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/msg00058.html

Y pulso en el botón de arriba que dice report as spam

(pulsado)

Sigo buscando mensajes de spam en ese mes y voy pulsando en cada botón 
correspondiente.

(terminado)

Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a 
este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de 
añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para poder 
editar la wiki?

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Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:15:35 -0600, cheperobert escribió:

 El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 03:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió:

 El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 cheperobert :  en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre
 esta contestando... sera la misma? :)

 Exacto es la misma.

 ¿Un cruce de listas? :-)
 Si un miembro de la lista opensuse ha enviado un mensaje de  un hilo a
 esta lista y sin percatarme le he contestado.
 
 Disculpas por las molestias.

No pasa nada hombre X-)

 Saludos Camaleon

Igualmente, y saluda a los listeros de openSUSE de mi parte :-)

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Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird

2011-09-04 Thread J.Alejandro Martinez Linares



El 04/09/11 11:04, Camaleón escribió:

El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió:

   

Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas
carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda es
pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea, es que
no logro sacar de evolution la libreta  tal y como dicen en un manual
que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un amigo me
lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde evolution
la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de antemano.
 

Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal fin.

man evolution-addressbook-export
   
Camaleon pero eso no esta en los repos , o por lo menos yo no lo tengo 
en mis repos pudieras enviarme el pakete, gracias de antemano



Saludos,

   


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Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:32:15 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió:

 El 04/09/11 11:04, Camaleón escribió:
 El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares
 escribió:


 Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas
 carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda
 es pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea,
 es que no logro sacar de evolution la libreta  tal y como dicen en un
 manual que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un
 amigo me lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde
 evolution la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de
 antemano.
  
 Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal
 fin.

 man evolution-addressbook-export

 Camaleon pero eso no esta en los repos , o por lo menos yo no lo tengo
 en mis repos pudieras enviarme el pakete, gracias de antemano

Debes tenerlo instalado, forma parte del paquete Evolution:

sm01@stt008:~$ locate evolution-addressbook-export
/usr/bin/evolution-addressbook-export
/usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-addressbook-export
/usr/share/man/man1/evolution-addressbook-export.1.gz

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Re: Algo terrible que me paso...

2011-09-04 Thread AngelD

Sat, 3 Sep 2011, Javier E. Navarro Salazar:


Saludos

Este es mi primer mensaje en la lista, y es para contarle sobre algo terrible 
que me ocurrió.
Iba a clonar un disco de instalación de Debian en una memoria USB con el 
comando dd, pero cometí un error, el comando fue:

$ dd if=debian-iso of=/dev/sda
Coloque sda por error, y yo juro que lo hice como usuario normal, pero 
convertí mi disco duro en un disco de instalación de Debian.


¿Alguien podría hablarme sobre el comando dd? ¿y por qué eso pudo pasar? 
¿Creen que pueda haber un bug? Uso Debian Wheezy/Sid para AMD64, lo intente 
de nuevo, pero me devuelve ... permiso denegado.


O tu usuario estaba en el grupo disk:

 brw-rw 1 root disk 8, 0 sep  3 14:58 /dev/sda

	o utilizaste permisos de root para la acción, por lo que no 
debieras jurar en vano. Los [1]bugs no obran milagros, y como 'dd' no 
tiene los bits SUID o SGID activados:


 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 53240 abr 28  2010 /bin/dd

	lo hiciste como root, o, repito, tu usuario 
pertenecía al grupo disk.


	El comando 'dd' (¿Disk Dump?), realiza copias bit a bit entre 
dispositivos, por lo que te has cargado la tabla de partición y un montón 
de datos al principio del disco. Espero que tengas copias de seguridad, 
porque la recuperación de datos en el disco que has machacado nunca va a 
ser completa.


Suerte.

 [1]http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?package=coreutils
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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Fernando C. Estrada
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 02:24:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 18:44:11 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió:
 
 (...)
 
  La forma de colaborar es eligiendo un mes que aún no cuente con cinco
  revisiones en el wiki, revisar el asunto de los mensajes dando clic en
  los que parezcan sospechosos, y reportar los mensajes de correo no
  deseado utilizando el botón de la parte superior derecha, por último hay
  que actualizar el wiki cambiando una estrella apagada por una iluminada
  e incluyendo su {nombre|iniciales|nick} en la revisión.
 
 Fernando, gracias por estar pendiente de estas cosas :-)
 
 Voy a poner un ejemplo práctico para ver si lo he entendido bien:
 
 Supongamos que quiero limpiar los archivos de esta lista (debian-user-
 spanish) de este año, 2011. Voy a esta página:
 
 http://wiki.debian.org/I18n/SpanishSpamClean#A2011
 
 Veo que enero sólo tiene una estrellita (1 revisión) así que lo elijo 
 para depurar. Accedo al archivo de este mes:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/
 
 Y busco mensajes que entiendo que son spam, como por ejemplo, este:
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2011/01/msg00058.html
 
 Y pulso en el botón de arriba que dice report as spam
 
 (pulsado)
 
 Sigo buscando mensajes de spam en ese mes y voy pulsando en cada botón 
 correspondiente.
 
 (terminado)
 
 Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a 
 este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de 
 añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para poder 
 editar la wiki?

Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-)

Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y
así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu
cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1].

Saludos y buen día,

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount
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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:38:42 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió:

 On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 02:24:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a
 este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de
 añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para
 poder editar la wiki?
 
 Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-)
 
 Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y
 así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu
 cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1].
 
 Saludos y buen día,
 
 [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount

¡Hecho!

Mira a ver que no haya roto nada, el sistema de wiki que conocía era el 
de openSUSE y este así de primeras me ha parecido similar pero nunca se 
sabe...

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Re: Mensaje de error RT2500pci

2011-09-04 Thread BasaBuru
On Domingo, 4 de Septiembre de 2011 11:43:58 Camaleón escribió:

Aupa

 Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios.

Si esta usando un kernel genérico están todos activados así que le cargara el 
que le corresponda.

Yo uso el rt61pci pero están los demás también activados

Lo que tiene que mirar es si tiene o no tiene instalado el paquete con la 
firmware ralink

dpkg -l | grep ralink

ii  firmware-ralink  0.33  
Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards

Si no esta, instalarlo, si esta empezamos a mirar otras cosas.

Un saludo

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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Hernan Javier Lopez
 Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-)

 Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y
 así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu
 cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1].

 Saludos y buen día,

 [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount
 --
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Muy buena idea. Lo estuve mirando y revisando para ver el sistema en
el año 1997 (herver) Pero algo faltaria para mi. Hay 5 estrellas, que
hacen que se asegure de 5 verificaciones al mes correspondientes.
¿Pero que pasa con esta situación?
5 personas lo revisan y marcan que lo revisaron, pero un mensaje de
Spam, solo lo ven 4, con lo cual, por un error, no se hace la denuncia
de uno. Pero como fue revisado ya 5 veces nadie mas lo revisa y
entonces no se termina el proceso.
Tal vez se podría hacer que si alguien revisa e informa de algún
mensaje en ese mes, que ponga luego de su nombre, entre paréntesis la
cantidad de mensajes que detecto. De esa manera, el resto esta atento
a la cantidad que hallaron los otros revisores y nos aseguramos que
todos los mensajes tengan las 5 notificaciones necesarias.
Saludos
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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Fernando C. Estrada
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 05:14:53PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:38:42 -0500, Fernando C. Estrada escribió:
 
  On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 02:24:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 (...)
 
  Se supone que ahora tengo que editar la wiki para añadir una estrella a
  este mes pero no tengo cuenta en la wiki ¿alguien se puede encargar de
  añadir la estrella o hay que abrir una cuenta obligatoriamente para
  poder editar la wiki?
  
  Mejor explicado imposible, ¡muchas gracias! :-)
  
  Efectivamente tendrías que abrir una cuenta en el wiki para editarlo y
  así indicar que has hecho una revisión, sin embargo puedes crear tu
  cuenta de forma muy sencilla aquí [1].
  
  Saludos y buen día,
  
  [1] http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage?action=newaccount
 
 ¡Hecho!
 
 Mira a ver que no haya roto nada, el sistema de wiki que conocía era el 
 de openSUSE y este así de primeras me ha parecido similar pero nunca se 
 sabe...

Todo perfecto, ¡muchas gracias!, únicamente quité el enlace de tu nick y
de herver ya que la página en el wiki a la que apuntaban no existía ;-)

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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Fernando C. Estrada
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:27:21PM -0300, Hernan Javier Lopez wrote:
 Muy buena idea. Lo estuve mirando y revisando para ver el sistema en
 el año 1997 (herver) Pero algo faltaria para mi. Hay 5 estrellas, que
 hacen que se asegure de 5 verificaciones al mes correspondientes.
 ¿Pero que pasa con esta situación?
 5 personas lo revisan y marcan que lo revisaron, pero un mensaje de
 Spam, solo lo ven 4, con lo cual, por un error, no se hace la denuncia
 de uno. Pero como fue revisado ya 5 veces nadie mas lo revisa y
 entonces no se termina el proceso.
 Tal vez se podría hacer que si alguien revisa e informa de algún
 mensaje en ese mes, que ponga luego de su nombre, entre paréntesis la
 cantidad de mensajes que detecto. De esa manera, el resto esta atento
 a la cantidad que hallaron los otros revisores y nos aseguramos que
 todos los mensajes tengan las 5 notificaciones necesarias.

Tienes toda la razón, sin embargo posiblemente ese mensaje que solo tuvo
cuatro revisiones según el wiki también fué reportado sin incluir la
revisión en el wiki como lo hacen ya varias personas.

En mi caso por ejemplo cada que llega un correo no deseado a una lista
que sigo lo reporto inmediatamente con mi cliente de correo [1] (de
forma tan sencilla en mutt [2] como pulsar una 'S' y confirmar), por lo
que utilizando el proceso descrito en el wiki generaría 2 reportes ;-)

De cualquier forma veamos como funciona y en su caso agregamos 2
reportes (estrellas) para evitar que se nos escapen, ¿te parece bien?

Saludos y buen día,

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[2]
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Re: Reporte de «spam» para las listas de Debian en español

2011-09-04 Thread Hernan Javier Lopez

 De cualquier forma veamos como funciona y en su caso agregamos 2
 reportes (estrellas) para evitar que se nos escapen, ¿te parece bien?

 Perfecto por mi... :)


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Re: [opensuse-es] como instalo programa REMMINA si no esta en el dvd oficial?

2011-09-04 Thread Flako
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 11:29, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 08:15:35 -0600, cheperobert escribió:

 El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 03:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:35:34 -0600, cheperobert escribió:

 El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 17:37, Flako subfo...@gmail.com
 escribió:
 cheperobert :  en debian-user-spanish hay una Camaleón que siempre
 esta contestando... sera la misma? :)

 Exacto es la misma.

 ¿Un cruce de listas? :-)
 Si un miembro de la lista opensuse ha enviado un mensaje de  un hilo a
 esta lista y sin percatarme le he contestado.

 Disculpas por las molestias.

 No pasa nada hombre X-)

 Saludos Camaleon

 Igualmente, y saluda a los listeros de openSUSE de mi parte :-)

 Saludos,

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Flelix si, claramente la lista de debian-user-spanish, no es lo que
hera antes.. ahora dejan entrar a cualquiera...
Perdon...se me paso.


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Re: Algo terrible que me paso...

2011-09-04 Thread Flako
El día 3 de septiembre de 2011 16:14, Javier E. Navarro Salazar
jav...@noclouds.org escribió:
 ¿y por qué eso pudo pasar?
 ¿Creen que pueda haber un bug? Uso Debian Wheezy/Sid para AMD64, lo intente

El único bug es ta mente humana, simplemente lo rompiste.. , mas de
uno nos ha pasado cosas similares... (mas de las que voy a admitir)
Si luego quieres recuperar datos, lo único que te queda usar es
testdisk, Foremost y PhotoRec

Suerte


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Particion windows-Debian

2011-09-04 Thread waldo li
espero puedan aconcejarme en esta duda que tengo,he buscado informacion y no
he conseguido nada esclarecedor:

tengo instalado windows y debian en un disco duro de 40 GB,la particion de
debian ya se me esta haciendo pequeña y me queda poco espacio(mi /home esta
hay tambien,tengo debian completo en esa particion).lo que yo quisiera es
quitar definitivamente windows y aprovechar ese espacio para debian. ?que
deberia hecer?.

he leido que no habria problema si elimino desde bebian la particion de
windows y le doy formato ext3 para luego unirla a la particion donde esta
debian. ?no tendria problema al arrancar?

tambien habia pensado en instalar desde cero debian en la particion donde
esta windows,pero se me hace algo tedioso ya que solo puedo hacerlo por usb
con una imagen netinstal.(no dispongo de quemador de cd :( )

 puedo borrar y formatear esa particion de windows sin problema?


hay les dejo (archivo adjunto:pantallazo.png) una imagen de mis
particiones,de antemano muchas gracias por la yuda que puedan darme
attachment: Pantallazo.png

Re: Particion windows-Debian

2011-09-04 Thread Flako
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 21:08, waldo li waleme...@gmail.com escribió:
 espero puedan aconcejarme en esta duda que tengo,he buscado informacion y no
 he conseguido nada esclarecedor:

 tengo instalado windows y debian en un disco duro de 40 GB,la particion de
 debian ya se me esta haciendo pequeña y me queda poco espacio(mi /home esta
 hay tambien,tengo debian completo en esa particion).lo que yo quisiera es
 quitar definitivamente windows y aprovechar ese espacio para debian. ?que
 deberia hecer?.

 he leido que no habria problema si elimino desde bebian la particion de
 windows y le doy formato ext3 para luego unirla a la particion donde esta
 debian. ?no tendria problema al arrancar?

 tambien habia pensado en instalar desde cero debian en la particion donde
 esta windows,pero se me hace algo tedioso ya que solo puedo hacerlo por usb
 con una imagen netinstal.(no dispongo de quemador de cd :( )

  puedo borrar y formatear esa particion de windows sin problema?


 hay les dejo (archivo adjunto:pantallazo.png) una imagen de mis
 particiones,de antemano muchas gracias por la yuda que puedan darme


La verdad, unirlas no vas a poder hacerlo sin un cdlive, puede usar
gparted (tiene un usblive) )por que estas en la misma
Igual cuando las unas, tenes que modicar el grub y el fstab

Lo que puede hacer sin grandes cambios es formatear la partición NTFS
7.4G y montar el /home y copiar todos tus archivos del home..  eso lo
podes hacer sin reiniciar y sin cdlive., pero igual te vas a quedar
corto..es poco 6,8GB para un / (raiz) de desktop.

Si fuese mi notebook realizaría un backup y restructuraria todas las
particiones, cuento libre te queda en la de 21GB?

Si reestructuras  hace un backup con FSArchiver,es lo mas flexible.

Saludos.


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Re: migrar de Evolution a Thunderbird

2011-09-04 Thread J.Alejandro Martinez Linares


El 04/09/11 17:54, Camaleón escribió:

El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 11:32:15 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares escribió:

   

El 04/09/11 11:04, Camaleón escribió:
 

El Sat, 03 Sep 2011 14:15:35 +0200, J.Alejandro Martinez Linares
escribió:


   

Hola amigos ya logre pasar todos los correos con sus respectivas
carpetas a mi Thunderbird desde mi antiguo Evolution, lo que me queda
es pasar la libreta de direcciones alguien me puede dar alguna idea,
es que no logro sacar de evolution la libreta  tal y como dicen en un
manual que estaba siguiendo de alguein que lo posteo en internet y un
amigo me lo mando , pero esa parte de como sacan a .csv los mail desde
evolution la omiten y no encuentro eso por ninguna parte gracias de
antemano.

 

Parece que existe una herramienta integrada en Evo y dedicada a tal
fin.

man evolution-addressbook-export

   

Camaleon pero eso no esta en los repos , o por lo menos yo no lo tengo
en mis repos pudieras enviarme el pakete, gracias de antemano
 

Debes tenerlo instalado, forma parte del paquete Evolution:

sm01@stt008:~$ locate evolution-addressbook-export
/usr/bin/evolution-addressbook-export
/usr/lib/evolution/2.22/evolution-addressbook-export
/usr/share/man/man1/evolution-addressbook-export.1.gz
   
OK camaleón, y como es que puedo usar esto que encontre, anja me salio 
tal y como lo pasaste arriba, pero como puedo exportar ehh, gracias de 
antemano




Saludos,

   


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¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?

2011-09-04 Thread Mayeli Sanchez
Saludos lista, escribo para preguntar si alguien sabe si es posible instalar
assaultcuebe para una computadora con procesador amd64 y con Debian Squeeze.
Gracias


Re: ¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?

2011-09-04 Thread López Denazis Santiago
El día 4 de septiembre de 2011 23:55, Mayeli Sanchez
anam...@gmail.com escribió:
 Saludos lista, escribo para preguntar si alguien sabe si es posible instalar
 assaultcuebe para una computadora con procesador amd64 y con Debian Squeeze.
 Gracias



  
http://sourceforge.net/projects/actiongame/files/AssaultCube%20Version%201.1.0.4/
, lo descargas, descomprimes y ejecutas (si no recuerdo mal, tiene un
ejecutable para 64 bits). Si no funciona, pruebas descargando el .exe
y ejecutando con Wine. Saludos,


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Re: ¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?

2011-09-04 Thread Orlando Nuñez
El 4 de septiembre de 2011 22:55, Mayeli Sanchez anam...@gmail.comescribió:

 Saludos lista, escribo para preguntar si alguien sabe si es posible
 instalar assaultcuebe para una computadora con procesador amd64 y con Debian
 Squeeze.
 Gracias


Saludos.

Creo que ese juego esta en los repositorios
intenta con

apt-get install assaultcube


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Re: ¿Cómo instalar assaultcube?

2011-09-04 Thread López Denazis Santiago
2011/9/5 López Denazis Santiago vampireofsen...@gmail.com:

  http://sourceforge.net/projects/actiongame/files/AssaultCube%20Version%201.1.0.4/
 , lo descargas, descomprimes y ejecutas (si no recuerdo mal, tiene un
 ejecutable para 64 bits). Si no funciona, pruebas descargando el .exe
 y ejecutando con Wine. Saludos,


  Me corrijo: descomprimes y ejecutás el assaultcube.sh, anda
perfectamente en 64 bits (acabo de probarlo). Salud!

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Mensaje de error RT2500pci

2011-09-04 Thread garrent


El Sun, 04 Sep 2011 00:41:03 -0500, garrent escribió:

(lamento el formato pero me es imposible mantener el original, no sabía 
que había clientes de correos tan tan remalotes...)

 ¿Cliente de correo? No uso. 

Sí, sí usas. En este caso es un webmail y no sé qué hacer pero:

1/ Deshila los mensajes
2/ Envía en formato html
3/ Hace top-posting

Vamos, una joyita.

Mira a ver si puedes resolver algunos de esos puntos.

 No he podido hechar a andar Evolution. 

En otro hilo nos lo cuentas, mejor.

 Ya preguntare sobre ello si no lo resuelvo  
 Contesto desde el portal de mi cuenta de correo. ¿Destrozar el hilo y
 el mensaje?  ¿Como debo contestar?Si pudieras explicarme por favor. 
 Es la primera vez que uso una lista de correos.¿O es otro hilo?Gracias

Comienza usando un cliente de correo que respeta el estándar porque el 
tuyo elimina datos importantes de la cabecera de los correos, 
concretamente el campo References: o In-Reply-To: con lo cual los 
mensajes no se mantienen en el mismo hilo o al menos yo lo veo 
completamente roto.

Sobre esto no puedes hacer nada salvo ponerlo en conocimiento de tu 
proveedor o cambiar de cliente de correo.

Lo que sí podrás cambiar será el envío en formato html, cambia eso y 
envía en formato texto porque tus correos se leen fatal en clientes que 
no usan html.

Después, cuando responsas escribe debajo del texto al que respondes, no 
encima.

Bueno, tratere de corregirlo. Lo del formato en HTML fue error mio, perdon 

Todas estas cosas las tienes descritas en las normas de la lista:

http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct

 La tarjeta LinksysWirless PC Adapter usa el chipset RT2500 
(disculpen la ignorancia)
 Como dije, con esa tarjeta es con la que me conecto al modem para salir 
 a internet. Y aparentemente no me da problemas mas que el mensaje de
 error

¿No da problemas, es decir, puedes navegar y configurarla correctamente? 
Entonces será un error del driver que es muy verboso y registra datos que 
no debe. Puedes informar de ese fallo para ver si lo solucionan.

No me da problemas. Bueno una vez estaba navegando y de repente ya no repondio
el internet, despues de un rato volvio a responder, y hace un rato no me pude 
conectar. 
Inicie ms-windows y si navegaba.
Volvi a entrar a debian y ya se pudo.
No se a que se deba, ni si tiene relacion con el error mencionado en el hilo

 03:06.0 Network controller [0280]: RaLink RT2500 802.11g [1814:0201] 
(rev 01)

Esa es. 

Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios.

Aqui esta el resultado:

rt2500pci  129590 
rt2x00pci46051   rt2500pci
rt2x00lib218102  rt2500pci,rt2x00pci
led_class24331  rt2x00lib
mac80211   137356   2  rt2x00pci,rt2x00lib
cfg80211 101496   2  rt2x00lib,mac80211
eeprom_93cx6 1335  1  rt2500pci
parport_pc 18855   1 
parport27954  3  ppdev,lp,parport_pc

http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/rt2500#Drivers

Por lo que lei en la pagina, creo que tengo instalado el controlador de nueva 
generacion que mencionan ahi.
Pero en si ¿que linea indica cual es el controlador?

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Mensaje de error RT2500pci

2011-09-04 Thread garrent

On Domingo, 4 de Septiembre de 2011 11:43:58 Camaleón escribió:
 
Aupa
 
 Ejecuta lsmod|grep rt para ver el driver que usas porque hay varios.
 
Si esta usando un kernel genérico están todos activados así que le cargara el
que le corresponda.

 lsmod|grep rt 

Aqui esta el resultado:

rt2500pci 12959 0 
rt2x00pci 4605 1 rt2500pci
rt2x00lib 21810 2 rt2500pci,rt2x00pci
led_class 2433 1 rt2x00lib
mac80211 137356 2 rt2x00pci,rt2x00lib
cfg80211 101496 2 rt2x00lib,mac80211
eeprom_93cx6 1335 1 rt2500pci
parport_pc 18855 1 
parport 27954 3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc 
 
Yo uso el rt61pci pero están los demás también activados
 
Lo que tiene que mirar es si tiene o no tiene instalado el paquete con la
firmware ralink
 
dpkg -l | grep ralink
 
Pues no salio ningun resultado. Sale el promt
Me  imagino que en la linea de ordenes si el comando no encuentra informacion
es normal lo anterior. Tal vez suene tonto, pero soy un neofito en linux
 
 
ii firmware-ralink 0.33
Binary firmware for Ralink wireless cards
 
Si no esta, instalarlo, si esta empezamos a mirar otras cosas.
 
Un saludo
 
BasaBuru.

Bueno, lo  voy a buscar, e intententar instalarlo.
Igual un saludo



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Instalar Impresora HP

2011-09-04 Thread Alex Muñoz

saludos a todos.Soy nuevo usando debian y mi duda apunta a que quiero instalar 
mi impresora Hp Oficejet 4000 , al ver en la pag de Hp sale que si quiero 
instalarla en linux debo usar el hplip, accedo a el , entro a Download HPLIB. 
Selecciono Debian , 6.0 y mi impresora pero sale este mensaje Debian 6.0 
supplies HPLIP 2.8.6 and it does  not support your printer.Alguien me puede 
ayudar a instalarlaDesde ya muchas gracias A
  

Re: Nerladdare för tex svtplay?

2011-09-04 Thread Anders Lövgren
On Wednesday 31 August 2011 21:43:35 j...@lillahusetiskogen.se wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 20:46:42 +0200
 Verkar fungera utmärkt! Över 25% hemma.
 Men finns det någon lösning på (skärm + ljud) -- fil undrar jag.
 Om det finns kan man ladda ner allt, inte bara sånt man förstår.
 
 /Janne

Låter som recordmydesktop är ett program som skulle passa i så fall:
http://recordmydesktop.sourceforge.net/

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problemas com cups

2011-09-04 Thread Vitor Hugo

Alguém ai teve problemas com o cups? possuo 9 impressoras ligadas na rede e uma 
em cabo usb no cups o problema eh que a ligada a usb as vezes para do nada, a 
solução que encontrei foi resetar o servidor de 1 em 1 hora ou seja 12 resets 
por dia pra o cups funcionar redondo sem parar, as outras são ligadas por ip 
mas de vez em quando o cups para não sei pq talvez seja pq o volume de 
impressão seja grande, alguma ideia?  

Re: OFF-TOPIC (Ajuda com Eclipse)

2011-09-04 Thread Kleber Fortaleza
quando eu trabalhava com o c/c++ no eclipse, eu precisava compilar,
depois entrar nas propriedades do projeto e configurar qual era o
executável que o compilador gerava. depois disso, você já poderia
compilar e rodar o programa normalmente.

mas isso era no tempo do galileo, não sei como o indigo está se
comportando quanto a isso.


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Re: sources.list directory specification

2011-09-04 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 03 September 2011 10:35:53 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 On 03/09/11 08:27, Lisi wrote:

 So - you are just doing as I suggested. Being selective (except you were
 doing it long before I suggested it, and I was only echoing the
 documentation)

 Hidden in my original post was this:-

  Yes - though you might consider reading up on pinning.

 ;-p

Yes, I saw that - but I in my turn was obviously not making myself clear. ;-)

Hidden in my post was the point that I did nothing.  Debian did it without 
my lifting a finger!  (Stars and emphasis added now.)

  installed from there.  The marvellous ***Debian sets the pinning
  appropriately __automatically__:***
 
  /etc/apt/preferences
 
  Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 200

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Miles Bader
lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
 just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
 so the stores only sold WD.

Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread shawn wilson
On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:

 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
  just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
  so the stores only sold WD.

 Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
 past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably  got his
wish :)


Re: Is it possible to use broken display laptop for print server?

2011-09-04 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 04/09/11 07:11, Brian wrote:

On Sat 03 Sep 2011 at 07:32:03 -0700, kei...@strucktower.com wrote:


Hmm. I'm thinking- would I first need to boot with an attached external
monitor to configure the Bios to use the external monitor? (chicken or
egg?)


To configure the bios you have to have a display on the external
monitor. If you have a display you should be able to see the Debian
installer come up.

More to the point: have you tried it?




I don't know how common the default setting is - but I had an old 
Gateway laptop with a dead screen that I used as a firewall. Similar 
situation - in order to enable an external monitor and booting from a 
non-hdd device I needed to access the BIOS. Dumping the CMOS enabled the 
external monitor so I could see the BIOS setting screens.


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Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps

2011-09-04 Thread Joe
On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:48:33 -0400
Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote:
  2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com:
 
   It contains just 2 fields;
  
          # User privilege specification
          root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
  
          # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
          %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
  
  
  /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access
  root level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like
  giving only limited privileges)
  
  at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line:
  username ALL=(ALL) ALL
  
  where username is the name of user that will have root level
  privileges, so in my case it is like this:
  darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL
  
  
  You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how
  it was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work
 ---end quoted text---
 
 Cool. Thanks for the help.
 
 Strange why that line isn't there aye?
 
 

Sudo in sid has just been updated to a version with a different
sudoers file format. Those who opted for a new configuration file got
the empty one quoted above, those who opted to keep theirs kept their
own additions to the old one. The latter also ended up with a sudo which
couldn't see sbin and the lower level sbins, which then stopped further
updates from working under sudo... possibly a changelog would have been
in order?

The clean new sudoers was also provided (as the .dpkg-dist file), so it
wasn't too hard to combine the two (clue: the Defaults secure_path
configuration is necessary to restore the path to include the sbins).

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Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps

2011-09-04 Thread darkestkhan
2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com:
 On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote:
 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com:

  It contains just 2 fields;
 
         # User privilege specification
         root    ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
 
         # Allow members of group sudo to execute any command
         %sudo   ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL
 

 /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root
 level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only
 limited privileges)

 at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line:
 username ALL=(ALL) ALL

 where username is the name of user that will have root level
 privileges, so in my case it is like this:
 darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL


 You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it
 was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work
 ---end quoted text---

 Cool. Thanks for the help.

 Strange why that line isn't there aye?


Well, probably because maintainers can't be sure about which user
should have root level privileges, so it has actualized file without
asking question whether it should do so (this one is because of
synaptic, can't blame it - most (nontechnical) users won't notice
those changes, and in most cases system doesn't brake). As I'm
updating from command line I got information about changes in
/etc/sudoers but I decided to handle this manually as tool for merging
changes in config files is not too helpful (but it could be, arch and
gentoo are doing much better in this aspect)

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Re: sources.list directory specification

2011-09-04 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 04/09/11 17:11, Lisi wrote:

On Saturday 03 September 2011 10:35:53 Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 03/09/11 08:27, Lisi wrote:



So - you are just doing as I suggested. Being selective (except you were
doing it long before I suggested it, and I was only echoing the
documentation)

Hidden in my original post was this:-


Yes - though you might consider reading up on pinning.


;-p


Yes, I saw that - but I in my turn was obviously not making myself clear. ;-)

Hidden in my post was the point that I did nothing.  Debian did it without
my lifting a finger!  (Stars and emphasis added now.)


installed from there.  The marvellous ***Debian sets the pinning
appropriately __automatically__:***

/etc/apt/preferences

Package: * Pin: release a=lenny-backports Pin-Priority: 200


Lisi




Worse - I *did* read it
It. Just. Did. Not. Sink. In.

Clearly you need longer nails and a bigger hammer to make the point sink 
in!  ;-p

(mea culpa)

Just checked, Squeeze doesn't seem to auto-pin

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Joe
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 16:23:06 +0900
Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:

 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
  just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
  so the stores only sold WD.
 
 Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
 past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...
 


Funny, isn't it? Of the dozen or so failed drives I've seen over a
long period (I'm not a full-time IT professional) only three have not
been WD (Seagate Barracuda, just over a year old, Maxtor about five
years old, Rodime 40MB about four years old).

The first I saw was a WD 30MB hardcard, which wouldn't start up.
Fortunately, it had an external (!) rotating part, and it was possible
to get a finger to it to kick-start it, after which the data could be
recovered.

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Re: Is it possible to use broken display laptop for print server?

2011-09-04 Thread Brian
On Sat 03 Sep 2011 at 17:50:28 -0700, kei...@strucktower.com wrote:

 shawn said:
 If you're looking for something to do, go for it. If you want a print
 server that just works, go on eBay and get an old jetdirect server (or go
 off brand - belkin comes to mind) for $20.

This is your low-energy, noiseless solution. It may also take less time
to set up and lead to less frustration than your laptop route.

 Any tips appreciated- how to configure it to automatically log in to the
 network, which software to use for print server and how to start it on
 bootup, how to create the cd, etc.

Download a netinst iso, burn to CD and boot from it. Insert a USB stick
and, after the base install stage and configuring the package manager,
put GRUB on the MBR of the stick.

Download the Plop Boot Manager zip file from www.plop.at. It contains an
iso file. Burn the iso to a CD. Boot from it and then from the USB
stick.  Install CUPS, Samba, a printer driver (www.openprinting.org) and
anything else you may need. Configure to your liking.


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fvwm problem

2011-09-04 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

One fvwm  feature doesn't work properly for me. I put a post in the
fvwm forum, but the only replies were from the program maintener, and it
works for him. I would like to know if it is the case for Debian fvwm users,
if any.
The problem is with the Style command: if I modify the config file,
and issue a fvwm Restart, the changes are applied immediately for the Title
flag, but not for the others.
For example, if I  have:
   Style xclock  NoTitle
   the sclock window has no title, and is not sticky
   if I replace this line by:
   Style xclock  Sticky
and do Restart, the xclock window gets immediatlely a title, but is still
not sticky. If I restart xclock, it is now sticky

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 17:48:33 -0700, Mike Castle wrote:

 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
 luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:
 just a word of warning: on absolutely no account, not for any reason,
 should you buy WD Green drives.

 i've just spent a hair-raising 6 weeks discovering that these drives,
 when pushed above a mere 40 Centigrade, become so unstable that they
 can actually become completely unresponsive, shut down, and leave the
 linux kernel in a completely unstable state, especially if they are
 part of a RAID1 mirror.
 
 For what it's worth, WD _does_ say not to use Green drives in RAID and
 such.
 
 http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1397

Good catch. 

But regardless WD statement, there is no compelling reason for a hard 
drive going down or start failing at 40℃, that's absurd.

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Re: Dig +bind9 debian squeeze

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 19:03:56 -0430, john vera wrote:

 F1 F1 F1 F1 F1: es simple, pero no puedo.

(...)

John, this is the English mailing list, should you want to ask something 
here it should be done in English :-)

There is also a Spanish mailing list you can try:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:

 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
  just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
  so the stores only sold WD.

 Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
 past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

 I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
 presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

 Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
 keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
 about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably  got his
 wish :)

what does OP mean?



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Re: Is it possible to use broken display laptop for print server?

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 07:32:03 -0700, keitho wrote:

(...)

 Hmm. Is it possible to boot a minimal Linux OS from a cdrom on this
 broken display Dell (with 256M ram) that would enable me to use it as a
 print server? I would use a wired Ethernet connection to the hub in the
 basement.

(...)

Yes, just attatch an external monitor to simplify the installation 
process and once done you can control your box via ssh.

Consider using a light DE/WM or none at all because 256 MiB of RAM is 
very low for big desktops like GNOME or KDE.

You can also use your laptop as a secondary backup server or for 
monitoring purposes.

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Mihira Fernando


On Sunday 04 September 2011 3:33:15 pm lina wrote:

 what does OP mean?

IF you meant the abbreviation, OP stands for Original Poster. The person who 
started the whole thread in question.


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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide?

(...)

Mmm, no replies yet...

Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a 
MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-)

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Scott Ferguson

On 04/09/11 20:03, lina wrote:

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM, shawn wilsonag4ve...@gmail.com  wrote:


On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Badermi...@gnu.org  wrote:


linalina.lastn...@gmail.com  writes:

just guess ... �might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
so the stores only sold WD.


Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...


I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably� got his
wish :)


what does OP mean?


Original Poster

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Scott Ferguson
prettyfly.producti...@gmail.com wrote:
 On 04/09/11 20:03, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 3:41 PM, shawn wilsonag4ve...@gmail.com  wrote:

 On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Badermi...@gnu.org  wrote:

 linalina.lastn...@gmail.com  writes:

 just guess ... �might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
 so the stores only sold WD.

 Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
 past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

 I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
 presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

 Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
 keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
 about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably� got
 his
 wish :)

 what does OP mean?

 Original Poster

Thanks.


 Cheers

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 last winter, one of the days I was here it was 3 below zero, no wind chill.
 A little nippy.
 It's kind of fun though in that weather, going outdoors and watching smokers
 pass out 'cause they don't know when they're done exhaling.
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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote:

 (...)

 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide?

 (...)

 Mmm, no replies yet...

Reply:

Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three times.
May I ask one thing here,
Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for
hotmail one.
Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and gmail?
Seems Postfix is heavy for me?

Thanks,

 Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a
 MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-)

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread D G Teed
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:
 
  lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
   just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
   so the stores only sold WD.
 
  Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
  past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

 I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
 presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

 Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
 keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
 about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably  got his
 wish :)

Well, actually, you have all helped that to happen by broadening the topic.
 It wasn't about a brand, but about
a brand and model type specifically.  This is about Green WD drives, not all
WD drives.

Before buying anything important to you, or something you don't want to buy
all over again
because you are careful with money, you should research the consumer
reaction or solicit opinions on it.

I researched the green drives from all makers and learned they are
engineered to do one thing well: save
power while in a desktop not in use.  They are not designed for servers, nor
even for intense computing
use like gaming or RAID.  I also noticed consumer backlash on all green
drives, and cheaper pricing on
green drives than any other kind (fire sale at some retailers).  So I did
not buy green drives.

I have used WD blue SATA 1TB drives in a couple of servers with RAID 1 and
there is no problem. The most intense server using them is running cyrus
mail,
and horde webmail, for about 3000 mailboxes and probably 500 users
visiting their mailboxes every day.  The horde webmail on there also serves
users of another cyrus system with 4000 more active mailboxes on it.
The system is backed up nightly with EMC networker, and runs
in a room with air conditioning.  Right now, early on a Sunday morning, the
load is
only .35 and the hard drive internal temperature from smartctl is 37 C.  I
imagine
it does go above 40 when loaded or under full backup duty.


Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Mihira Fernando
On Sunday 04 September 2011 5:03:41 pm lina wrote:
 Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three times.
 May I ask one thing here,
 Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for
 hotmail one.
 Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and
 gmail? Seems Postfix is heavy for me?

 Thanks,

Icedove works fine with Gmail.  From gmail settings, enable POP3 access and 
then in Icedove, set the setttings as given here : 
http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=86400


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Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:33:41 +0800, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote:

 (...)

 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU
 system-wide?

 (...)

 Mmm, no replies yet...
 
 Reply:
 
 Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three
 times. 

Ouch! The thread was just about MTU and I asked if it is fine to adjust 
that value with bonded NICs...

 May I ask one thing here,

Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking other's 
postings is not nice ;-)

(editing the subject...)

 Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for
 hotmail one.

http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm

 Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and
 gmail? 

Yes, why not? :-?

 Seems Postfix is heavy for me?

Postfix is an e-mail server (MTA) not an e-mail client (MUA) like 
Icedove. It's another kind of beast :-)

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Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 09:03:38AM +0100, Joe wrote:
 On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 19:48:33 -0400
 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com wrote:
  Cool. Thanks for the help.
  
  Strange why that line isn't there aye?
  
  
 
 Sudo in sid has just been updated to a version with a different
 sudoers file format. Those who opted for a new configuration file got
 the empty one quoted above, those who opted to keep theirs kept their
 own additions to the old one. The latter also ended up with a sudo which
 couldn't see sbin and the lower level sbins, which then stopped further
 updates from working under sudo... possibly a changelog would have been
 in order?
 
 The clean new sudoers was also provided (as the .dpkg-dist file), so it
 wasn't too hard to combine the two (clue: the Defaults secure_path
 configuration is necessary to restore the path to include the sbins).
 
 -- 
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--end quoted text--

Thanks for the explanation.


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Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps

2011-09-04 Thread Stephen Allen
On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:04:20AM +, darkestkhan wrote:
 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com:
  On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote:

  /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root
  level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only
  limited privileges)
 
  at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line:
  username ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
  where username is the name of user that will have root level
  privileges, so in my case it is like this:
  darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
 
  You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it
  was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work
  ---end quoted text---
 
  Cool. Thanks for the help.
 
  Strange why that line isn't there aye?
 
 
 Well, probably because maintainers can't be sure about which user
 should have root level privileges, so it has actualized file without
 asking question whether it should do so (this one is because of
 synaptic, can't blame it - most (nontechnical) users won't notice
 those changes, and in most cases system doesn't brake). As I'm
 updating from command line I got information about changes in
 /etc/sudoers but I decided to handle this manually as tool for merging
 changes in config files is not too helpful (but it could be, arch and
 gentoo are doing much better in this aspect)
 
 darkestkhan
 --
 Feel free to CC me.
 jid: darkestk...@gmail.com
 May The Source be with You.
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Unfortuantely the suggested fix didn't work. Must have something to do with 
PAM? Doesn't
PAM interact with the Keychain and maybe SUDOERS to authorize a user wanting to 
run for
example, Synaptic?


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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Markus Schönhaber
04.09.2011 12:40, Camaleón:

 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide?
 
 (...)
 
 Mmm, no replies yet...
 
 Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a 
 MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-)

I don't see any gotchas besides the obvious one: the throughput is
decreased somewhat, since on average more packets are needed to transmit
the same amount of payload.

OTOH, in my experience, when you can work around transmission problems
by lowering the MTU, almost always someone has b0rked his packet filter
and throws away those ultra-evil ICMP packets like Fragmentation
Needed or Time Exceeded in Transit etc.
If you're sure you're not the one killing ICMP and the problems only
occur with specific sites, it might be helpful to have the
administrators of those sites check their firewall configuration.

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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread D G Teed
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hello,

 I've been busy on these days trying to solve a problem with Postfix that
 drove me nuts.

 Sporadically (let's say one in hundred e-mails) my Postfix had problems
 for delivering messages with ~3 MiB of attachment to some e-mail hosts.
 DSN service returned the final notice of delivery to the user and logs
 displayed an error like timed out while sending message body.

 These hosts were not of those difficult ones like Hotmail, Gmail,
 Yahoo! or the like that because to their high volume of traffic implement
 additional (and sometimes strambotic) measures to prevent spam and such
 anti-all systems that may require a different transport definiton in
 Postfix to get e-mails delivered.

 Moreover, these hosts were not e-mail servers that are behind Cisco PIX
 devices or using MS Exchange servers that are also well-known to be
 conflictive to dialogue with.

 Nope, I was having problems for delivering to common, small hosts of mid-
 size companies, one of the hosts running a Debian system, like mine. So I
 had to run some tests to find out what could be the problem here.

 I first tried to define a less conservative values (by increasing the
 time) for smtp_data_done_timeout, smtp_data_xfer_timeout and
 smtp_data_init_timeout but this had no effect at all and again, some e-
 mails were still undelivered.

 Googling around I found some posts and articles¹ pointing to the MTU
 value (my bonded interface was set by default to 1500) and as I had
 nothing to lose, I changed this and lowered to 1400.

 This turned out to work wonders and since then (that's more than a week
 ago) I still had no other DSN delivery errors. Besides, e-mails in
 deferred queue that could not be sent in that time, after lowering the
 MTU value were also delivered with no apparent problems.

 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide?

 The server has dual gigabit NIC which are bonded (in backup mode) and
 server itself is behind a FTTH gigabit router. The server also hosts a
 web server.

 Any comments or experiences on this are welcome :-)

 ¹http://www.hsc.fr/ressources/cours/postfix/doc/faq.html#timeouts


You might want to try the postfix mailing list and see if they have any
ideas.
Be prepared for cold, hard, terse answers.  They don't chat much - busy I
guess.

Was the previous MTU of 1500, a value you had set, or the default when
queried?

I'm wondering because of a recent experience I had tweaking MTU.  I wanted
to try jumbo frames
to improve samba throughput on large video files.  With MTU set to 9000 on
Linux and Windows,
throughput increased about 8 times.  But it caused problems with the web
service on Linux,
which was running a domain under dyndns.  I set the MTU on Linux back to
unspecified, but
left the jumbo frame active on Windows side.  The performance was still very
good in large
samba file transfers.  I might remember this wrong, but it seemed it was
worse performance
when Linux side specified 1500, so I left it as unspecified and it has
worked well.
I still get high transfer speeds in samba with unspecified MTU on Linux but
jumbo
of 9000 MTU on Windows side.

BTW, 1492 is a common MTU seen in FAQs.  You might get just as good with
that.


Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Osamu Aoki
HI,

On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:40:29AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 (...)
 
  I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
  errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU system-wide?
 
 (...)
 
 Mmm, no replies yet...
 
 Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a 
 MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-)
 
 Greetings,

Some router between you and outside have issue, I guess.

It is a bit complicated.  My best effort information is here:

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_finding_optimal_mtu

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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 19:33:41 +0800, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote:

 (...)

 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU
 system-wide?

 (...)

 Mmm, no replies yet...

 Reply:

 Sorry, I do not understand well most what you said even I read three
 times.

 Ouch! The thread was just about MTU and I asked if it is fine to adjust
 that value with bonded NICs...

 May I ask one thing here,

 Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking other's
 postings is not nice ;-)
Hijacking is a big word for me to afford, sorry to just take a lift there.

 (editing the subject...)

 Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for
 hotmail one.

 http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm

Thanks for the URL you provided, actually last time I met this webpage.

Mine windows live email address is a bit different, not ends up with
the traditional one like .hotmail or something like this. It's
associated with some other things.

I will check further and see (mostly the same as last time, not solved
and put aside).

the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured.

Thanks,

 Is the icedove a good choice (for me) to grab emails from hotmail and
 gmail?

 Yes, why not? :-?

 Seems Postfix is heavy for me?

 Postfix is an e-mail server (MTA) not an e-mail client (MUA) like
 Icedove. It's another kind of beast :-)

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Re: Holiday Project for my job

2011-09-04 Thread Rob Owens
On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 10:35:12AM -0500, ZephyrQ wrote:
 I am trying to set up several Linux desktops for a secure (locked)
 facility for troubled teenagers.  I brought one home to set up (so I can
 have unfettered internet access) but then I need to be able to 'clone'
 it to others without internet access (so package retrieval is impossible
 unless I bring home every single desktop; and we are talking about up to
 50).  So I need advice on the following:
 
 1.  Which distro to use?  I've used Mint before in a similar setting
 (and was pleased) but I'm now stuck with 6 year old Dells with almost no
 video acceleration and .5 G memory each.  I'm thinking XFCE with Mint or
 Xbuntu, but am open to others (even a stock debian install which I use
 on my home machine) but I will not be able to update unless I do so
 manually (which a CD or thumbdrive).
 
 2.  How do I 'clone' the machine to a CD or, preferably, a thumb drive
 so I can install the same configuration to all machines (limiting menu
 options, put in educational games, add openoffice or libreoffice, etc.)?
 
If the computers are networked (internet is not necessary), then you can
make a single image to serve all the computers using one of the
following methods.

1)  Debian Live netboot

2)  LTSP kiosk mode

Both of these will allow you to keep a pristine image that only you
update (and you only have to update it on a single machine).  When a
client boots, it gets its OS over the network.  It always gets a
pristine copy of the image on each boot.

Let me know if you need more details.

-Rob


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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011, Mike Castle wrote:
 On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 1:14 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
 luke.leigh...@gmail.com wrote:
  just a word of warning: on absolutely no account, not for any reason,
  should you buy WD Green drives.
 
  i've just spent a hair-raising 6 weeks discovering that these drives,
  when pushed above a mere 40 Centigrade, become so unstable that they
  can actually become completely unresponsive, shut down, and leave the
  linux kernel in a completely unstable state, especially if they are
  part of a RAID1 mirror.
 
 For what it's worth, WD _does_ say not to use Green drives in RAID and such.
 
 http://wdc.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/1397

They do so because the drive can take arbritarily long times to complete a
request when it faces any media issues or firmware snafu's, and most RAID
can't cope well with that (md can, but you *have* to set up the
per-backing-device timeouts properly).

If the drives are dying from overheat, that's something else entirely.

However, do NOT do anything as foolhardy as trusting the firmware on those
devices to actually be able to handle SMART attribute read requests properly
doing intensive IO (or the kernel, or the SATA HBA).  Stuff like running
hddtemp once a minute is a very bad idea.

-- 
  One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring
  them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond
  where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot
  Henrique Holschuh


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Re: more woes with my debian install: booting edition

2011-09-04 Thread Mark Neidorff
On Saturday 03 September 2011 4:53:02 pm jeremy jozwik wrote:
  1. Did you do a media check (sha1sum or whatever) on the install CD?
 
 nope. though during my troubleshooting of debian 6.0.2 i used my
 known to be working debian 5.0.2 install disk and received the same
 results. black screen after installer menu.
 

My current suspect list for your problems:
Bad CD
Incompatible version (64 bit) for your video card.
Bad CD drive.

OK.  here are suggestions  to eliminate 2 possible sources of problems?  
First, test the CD.
Second, can you get to the point where you choose the installation mode?  If 
so, can you select a non-graphical(text) mode install?  Does that work?  The 
fact that you can get the gpartd CD to boot is a good sign.
Thirdd, download and try a 32 bit CD.  I recall seeing some problems with some 
video cards and the 64 bit distro.  I looked up your card, it is 4 years old, 
and should be well supported, but you just don't know.

Another thought:
Do you have a different CD drive available?  Can you beg/borrow one to see if 
the drive is faulty?

  2. Can you please state what your PC specs are for CPU, RAM, video and
  interfaces?  (IDE, USB, etc)  Does the CD that you downloaded match your
  hardware specs?
 
 dual dual core amd opteron 2.6ghz 64 bit
 tyan s2915 main board
 12 gig ram
 nvidia quadro 5600 vid card
 3 sata drives, boot drive partitioned with half windows XP 64bit and
 half debian squeeze  --- operating system with errors.
 yes, i downloaded the amd64 arch.

Nice and high end.

Here, I run into my limit of being able to help you.  I have no experience 
with dual CPU installations.  It **shouldn't matter** (TM), but it is another 
variable to explore.

 
  3. What evidence do you have that the PC hardware is not at fault?
 
 windows runs 100% fine. gparted boots from live cd, in the process of
 testing a unbuntu usb live os.
 
  4. Have you tried a complete reinstall?
 
 no, install leads to hanging black screen infinity after install menu
 option is chosen.


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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:42:30 +0800, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)

 May I ask one thing here,

 Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking
 other's postings is not nice ;-)

 Hijacking is a big word for me to afford, sorry to just take a lift
 there.

Don't get it wrong :-)

The term hijacking when used for mailing list threads is a common slang 
to indicate that someone has replied to a post and changed the main topic:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thread%20hijacking

 Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for
 hotmail one.

 http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm
 
 Thanks for the URL you provided, actually last time I met this webpage.
 
 Mine windows live email address is a bit different, not ends up with the
 traditional one like .hotmail or something like this. It's associated
 with some other things.
 
 I will check further and see (mostly the same as last time, not solved
 and put aside).

Then you should read the FAQ of your former e-mail server provider for 
setting up smtp service :-?

 the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured.

Yep, but remember you can always use a manual setup to configure your 
accounts. 

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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:42:30 +0800, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:05 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 (...)

 May I ask one thing here,

 Well, not here, maybe in a new thread, don't you think? Hijacking
 other's postings is not nice ;-)

 Hijacking is a big word for me to afford, sorry to just take a lift
 there.

 Don't get it wrong :-)

 The term hijacking when used for mailing list threads is a common slang
 to indicate that someone has replied to a post and changed the main topic:

 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=thread%20hijacking

Thanks, I really know so little.

 Last time I tried the icedove but don't know how to set the SMTP for
 hotmail one.

 http://email.about.com/od/accessinghotmail/f/Windows_Live_Hotmail_SMTP_Settings.htm

 Thanks for the URL you provided, actually last time I met this webpage.

 Mine windows live email address is a bit different, not ends up with the
 traditional one like .hotmail or something like this. It's associated
 with some other things.

 I will check further and see (mostly the same as last time, not solved
 and put aside).

 Then you should read the FAQ of your former e-mail server provider for
 setting up smtp service :-?
They only provided some typical one, last time I also adapt the
thunderbird one,
did not work.

 the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured.

A bit unexpected, by browser, my gmail for debian mailing list I only
kept recent 1610 emails (around).
but the icedove was busy downloading, reached 6 thousands and more.

Frankly speaking, I removed the icedove again.

and back to check emails on iceweasle.

It's a better choice for me I guess.

Thanks again,

 Yep, but remember you can always use a manual setup to configure your
 accounts.

 Greetings,

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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 20:56:51 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:

 HI,
 
 On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 10:40:29AM +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:09:23 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
 (...)
 
  I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
  errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU
  system-wide?
 
 (...)
 
 Mmm, no replies yet...
 
 Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a
 MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-)
 
 Some router between you and outside have issue, I guess.
 
 It is a bit complicated.  My best effort information is here:
 
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_finding_optimal_mtu

Thanks... I should have imagined there must be something about this in 
the manual :-)

I was indeed making that kind of tests to value what MTU size was the 
best for that specific case and tried first with 1492 but messages were 
still left in deferred queue. Once I changed to 1400 all of the 
pending postings could finally be delivered.

I have now setup the bonded interface to stick to this MTU (1400) as 
stated in section 5.8.2. Setting MTU.

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Re: [alsa-devel] No sound on Asus EeePC 1215b (hda-intel)

2011-09-04 Thread Touko Korpela
On Thu, Sep 01, 2011 at 11:18:39AM +0200, David Henningsson wrote:
 On 09/01/2011 12:08 AM, Touko Korpela wrote:
 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:42:02PM +0200, Clemens Ladisch wrote:
 Touko Korpela wrote:
 No sound is heard (but mixer is not muted).
 Shouldn't mixer have more channels to adjust?
 
 00:01.1 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc Device 1314
 00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA) (rev 
 40)
 
 Your default sound device is the device that happened to be detected
 first, which is your GPU's HDMI output.
 
 Tell whatever sound configuration tool is used in your distribution to
 use the other sound device.
 
 Shouldn't that be hidden when HDMI cable is not plugged (like now)?
 
 I'm working on hiding exactly that at the UI level (gnome/pulseaudio
 level rather than ALSA), but that is a long-term goal and not all
 pieces are into place yet.
 
 Does this kind of system work for someone?
 
 A very similar machine, Asus 1215P [1], was enabled by the team I'm
 involved with, so yes, it definitely works for someone, and it would
 surprise me if it does not work out of the box from an Ubuntu 11.10
 Beta Live-CD even though the link says pre-install only.
 
 You could try this terminal command:
 
 speaker-test -D plughw:SB -c 2 -t sine
 
 And see if that outputs sound (try both headphones and internal speakers).

I tested that command and it works. Now just have to figure out the right
way to select default sound output device (on Debian). Ideally it should
work automatically.


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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 14:06:02 +0200, Markus Schönhaber wrote:

 04.09.2011 12:40, Camaleón:
 
 I'm still monitoring this but if this is the cure to prevent such
 errors, are there any expected drawbacks for lowering MTU
 system-wide?
 
 (...)
 
 Mmm, no replies yet...
 
 Does it mean then that there are no gotchas to care about in setting a
 MTU value of 1400 for a bonded interface? :-)
 
 I don't see any gotchas besides the obvious one: the throughput is
 decreased somewhat, since on average more packets are needed to transmit
 the same amount of payload.
 
 OTOH, in my experience, when you can work around transmission problems
 by lowering the MTU, almost always someone has b0rked his packet filter
 and throws away those ultra-evil ICMP packets like Fragmentation
 Needed or Time Exceeded in Transit etc. If you're sure you're not the
 one killing ICMP and the problems only occur with specific sites, it
 might be helpful to have the administrators of those sites check their
 firewall configuration.

I agree. The best way to sort out these problems is by carrying out 
additional tests with the host we were experiencing problems but I've had 
not very good experiences when contacting Spanish admins, most of them 
just don't reply at all or are not interested in solving this 
problematic ;-(

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Re: MTU and Postfix

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 09:14:45 -0300, D G Teed wrote:

 On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I've been busy on these days trying to solve a problem with Postfix
 that drove me nuts.

 Sporadically (let's say one in hundred e-mails) my Postfix had problems
 for delivering messages with ~3 MiB of attachment to some e-mail hosts.
 DSN service returned the final notice of delivery to the user and logs
 displayed an error like timed out while sending message body.

(...)

 Googling around I found some posts and articles¹ pointing to the MTU
 value (my bonded interface was set by default to 1500) and as I had
 nothing to lose, I changed this and lowered to 1400.

(...)

 You might want to try the postfix mailing list and see if they have any
 ideas.
 Be prepared for cold, hard, terse answers.  They don't chat much - busy
 I guess.

:-)

Should I couldn't solve the problem, sure, I would had to post in there.

The fact is I like Postfix so much, I find it very flexible and easy to 
deal with but in specific case, I didn't think the app was the culprit 
but as Osamu has pointed out, a router or a filter (firewall) in between 
our hosts making noise.
 
 Was the previous MTU of 1500, a value you had set, or the default when
 queried?

1500 was the default MTU value for the bonded interfaces. I thinks is the 
system default for ethernet devices nowadays.
 
 I'm wondering because of a recent experience I had tweaking MTU.  I
 wanted to try jumbo frames to improve samba throughput on large video
 files.  With MTU set to 9000 on Linux and Windows, throughput increased
 about 8 times.  But it caused problems with the web service on Linux,
 which was running a domain under dyndns.  I set the MTU on Linux back to
 unspecified, but left the jumbo frame active on Windows side.  The
 performance was still very good in large samba file transfers.  I might
 remember this wrong, but it seemed it was worse performance when Linux
 side specified 1500, so I left it as unspecified and it has worked well.
 I still get high transfer speeds in samba with unspecified MTU on Linux
 but jumbo of 9000 MTU on Windows side.

That was exactly the kind of problems I would like to avoid :-) But as 
you said, lower values for MTU are not prone to errors or conflicts but 
higher ones (like jumbo frames). I hope performance is not badly 
penalized for having a low value, though...
 
 BTW, 1492 is a common MTU seen in FAQs.  You might get just as good with
 that.

MTU is now set at 1400. The host I was trying to contact seemed to be 
fine with that setting so I kept it so.

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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0800, lina wrote:

 the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured.
 
 A bit unexpected, by browser, my gmail for debian mailing list I only
 kept recent 1610 emails (around).
 but the icedove was busy downloading, reached 6 thousands and more.
 
 Frankly speaking, I removed the icedove again.
 
 and back to check emails on iceweasle.
 
 It's a better choice for me I guess.

Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client 
you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have 
stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download.

Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove?

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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:28:21 +0800, lina wrote:

 the icedove is smart, the gmail is autoconfigured.

 A bit unexpected, by browser, my gmail for debian mailing list I only
 kept recent 1610 emails (around).
 but the icedove was busy downloading, reached 6 thousands and more.

 Frankly speaking, I removed the icedove again.

 and back to check emails on iceweasle.

 It's a better choice for me I guess.

 Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client
 you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have

inbox/folders ?

I have inbox and different folders ( folders are not in the inbox directory).

clean up?

 stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download.

 Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove?

IMAP.

P.S  Before I tried the icedove,
mainly just wanna download thousands of emails from windows live
account to backup (It's kind of official email box I used for
years).
Right now I wonder I maybe do backup in different machine, such as use
outlook. will try another time.

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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:34:09 +0800, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client
 you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have
 
 inbox/folders ?

Yes. If you have all of your messages stored/archived in your inbox 
Icedove will suffer to download/get all that amount of data.

It's better to have sub-folders so you can classify your e-mails and put 
in there a small set of messages.

 I have inbox and different folders ( folders are not in the inbox
 directory).

Hum... are that Gmail default folders (sent/all/trash...) or have you 
manually created them?
 
 clean up?

Yep :-)

Gmail has the strange ability to fill up very quickly and we tend to 
forget to completely remove e-mails that we don't want anymore. It's the 
price we have to pay in this cloud-based world: we forget about basic 
maintenance and let the provider to do the dirty job.

 stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download.

 Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove?
 
 IMAP.

Then arrange your inbox and let Ivecove to gather the data. The first 
time will take some time but once it indexes and caches the folder it 
will be quicker.

 P.S  Before I tried the icedove,
 mainly just wanna download thousands of emails from windows live account
 to backup (It's kind of official email box I used for years).
 Right now I wonder I maybe do backup in different machine, such as use
 outlook. will try another time.

I guess Outlook will suffer for the same as Icedove (it will be slow).

But if you want to make a backup for a small set of messages, I think 
there are specialized tools to achieve that task (e.g., gmail backup).

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Re: more woes with my debian install: booting edition

2011-09-04 Thread Lisi
On Saturday 03 September 2011 04:01:56 jeremy jozwik wrote:
 todays issue is a flashing underscore after the grub bootloaded
 bootloads the debian image.

I wonder whether your image is for some reason misregistering on the monitor 
and moving too far to the left?  You *should* get a flashing underscore after 
booting into recovery mode, and it is the signal to enter your root password.  
Have you tried that?

If so, have you tried adjusting your monitor so that the image moves to the 
right?

Both of these would be worth trying, and reporting back on.

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Re: sources.list directory specification

2011-09-04 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 04 September 2011 09:06:39 Scott Ferguson wrote:
 Just checked, Squeeze doesn't seem to auto-pin

Interesting.  I must obviously ensure that I keep a copy of my Lenny 
preferences file!  I have not yet installed any backports on Squeeze.  I only 
install backports if and when I have a good reason for wanting them, and not 
willy nilly.

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Re: Setting up Icedove with mayor providers (was: MTU and Postfix)

2011-09-04 Thread lina
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 10:56 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 22:34:09 +0800, lina wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 Before setting up your Gmail account to use it with your e-mail client
 you should first clean up your inbox/folders because you can have

 inbox/folders ?

 Yes. If you have all of your messages stored/archived in your inbox
 Icedove will suffer to download/get all that amount of data.

 It's better to have sub-folders so you can classify your e-mails and put
 in there a small set of messages.

 I have inbox and different folders ( folders are not in the inbox
 directory).

 Hum... are that Gmail default folders (sent/all/trash...) or have you
 manually created them?

In Gamil interface ( on browser) it has filters function.
Actually even I only touch the debian less than two years, but last 15
years I spent long time with Windows.
Shame, I still know so little after so many years passed.

 clean up?

 Yep :-)

I cleaned nearly all.

 Gmail has the strange ability to fill up very quickly and we tend to
 forget to completely remove e-mails that we don't want anymore. It's the
 price we have to pay in this cloud-based world: we forget about basic
 maintenance and let the provider to do the dirty job.

 stored there thousand of messages that can take very long to download.

 Were you using POP3 or IMAP to get your Gmail's e-mails in Icedove?

 IMAP.

 Then arrange your inbox and let Ivecove to gather the data. The first
 time will take some time but once it indexes and caches the folder it
 will be quicker.

 P.S  Before I tried the icedove,
 mainly just wanna download thousands of emails from windows live account
 to backup (It's kind of official email box I used for years).
 Right now I wonder I maybe do backup in different machine, such as use
 outlook. will try another time.

 I guess Outlook will suffer for the same as Icedove (it will be slow).

 But if you want to make a backup for a small set of messages, I think
 there are specialized tools to achieve that task (e.g., gmail backup).

Thanks again,

 Greetings,

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Re: multitouch

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 03 Sep 2011 23:26:27 -0300, David Roguin wrote:

 I've succesfully installed Debian (wheezy) on a Macbook pro 8,1 and now
 the hard part is to make the hardware to work nicely ;) Currently, the
 touchpad works as a mouse with only one button and I'm trying to fix
 that following the wiki (http://wiki.debian.org/MacBookPro). I've
 installed mtrack (https://github.com/BlueDragonX/xf86-input-mtrack) as
 suggested, but It's not working properly, I'm not even sure if Xorg is
 loading the mtrack driver.

Did you also configure Xorg to use that driver?

 I was looking for any pointer to check if the module is being loaded or
 if any error is being thrown.

I would check Xorg's log (grep -i mtrack /var/log/Xorg.0.log) because I 
guess that driver it should be part of the Xorg's stack and not loaded as 
standalone module.

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Ugly appearence after upgrade

2011-09-04 Thread Chir0n
Hi all,

after an aptitude dist-upgrade to testing (and to unstable too) some GTK2
applications look ugly, like GTK1 appplications.

Gnome-terminal and Epiphany are two of them.

I tried install testing and after a aptitude upgrade the problem returned.

Does anyone know how to solve this?

Thnaks.


Re: ReInstall of System borked Admin Pwd for Apps

2011-09-04 Thread darkestkhan
2011/9/4 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com:
 On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 08:04:20AM +, darkestkhan wrote:
 2011/9/3 Stephen Allen marathon.duran...@gmail.com:
  On Sat, Sep 03, 2011 at 11:32:00AM +, darkestkhan wrote:

  /etc/sudoers contains informations about who has rights to access root
  level privileges (though I know it can do much more, like giving only
  limited privileges)
 
  at the bottom of /etc/sudoers you should have this line:
  username ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
  where username is the name of user that will have root level
  privileges, so in my case it is like this:
  darkestkhan ALL=(ALL) ALL
 
 
  You will probably have to run in maintenance (or rescue, forgot how it
  was called) mode, after that (or reboot) everything should work
  ---end quoted text---
 
  Cool. Thanks for the help.
 
  Strange why that line isn't there aye?
 

 Well, probably because maintainers can't be sure about which user
 should have root level privileges, so it has actualized file without
 asking question whether it should do so (this one is because of
 synaptic, can't blame it - most (nontechnical) users won't notice
 those changes, and in most cases system doesn't brake). As I'm
 updating from command line I got information about changes in
 /etc/sudoers but I decided to handle this manually as tool for merging
 changes in config files is not too helpful (but it could be, arch and
 gentoo are doing much better in this aspect)


 Unfortuantely the suggested fix didn't work. Must have something to do with 
 PAM? Doesn't
 PAM interact with the Keychain and maybe SUDOERS to authorize a user wanting 
 to run for
 example, Synaptic?


It should work... (there is space after right parenthesis (and it may
be that you it should be
username ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL

but if it still doesn't work then I can't be of much help - it works
for me, though, admittedly I don't use PAM so it may be that it does
work until I will have to use something with PAM (or other similar
solution).

PS:
It has to be noted that things worked well without merging changes in
/etc/sudoers as long as programs were run by me - if program run by me
with root privileges was running different program then I got errors
that it can't find things in /sbin (and thus I knew that I have to
look at changes in /etc/sudoers)

darkestkhan
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Re: Ugly appearence after upgrade

2011-09-04 Thread Sven Joachim
On 2011-09-04 18:32 +0200, Chir0n wrote:

 Hi all,

 after an aptitude dist-upgrade to testing (and to unstable too) some GTK2
 applications look ugly, like GTK1 appplications.

 Gnome-terminal and Epiphany are two of them.

They are not, because they are not GTK2 applications anymore.  This may
be related to your problem, although gnome-terminal does not look ugly
here (I don't use Epiphany).

Sven


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Re: more woes with my debian install: booting edition

2011-09-04 Thread jeremy jozwik
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 6:08 AM, Mark Neidorff m...@neidorff.com wrote:
 My current suspect list for your problems:
 Bad CD
 Incompatible version (64 bit) for your video card.
 Bad CD drive.

things get interesting now. while talking to a buddy about this issue
he wanted me to humor him by trying a unbuntu install. first try i got
the same black screen nothing happening deal that i get with debian.
but! while searching around on how to fix things like that in unbuntu
i discovered the F6 menu, install options. trial and error got me to
find ACPI=OFF which got the install to actually show.

so i went into my bios and disabled ACPI, debian actually gets into
the install. not only that but its actually boots into debian!
... only just. the video display is stuck at something horrible like
800x### with no other options then 640x###. likewise debian cannot
read my monitor or detect the secondary one.

both of these were possible in the very first time debian installed.
the time when i went so far as to install other programs. both my dell
monitors showed and were able to display in there native 1024+
resolutions.

once i turn ACPI back to on, nothing works again.

 OK.  here are suggestions  to eliminate 2 possible sources of problems?
 First, test the CD.

i have a second cd rom...   but its less reliable then the one
installed to the machine!

 Second, can you get to the point where you choose the installation mode?  If
 so, can you select a non-graphical(text) mode install?  Does that work?  The
 fact that you can get the gpartd CD to boot is a good sign.
 Thirdd, download and try a 32 bit CD.  I recall seeing some problems with some
 video cards and the 64 bit distro.  I looked up your card, it is 4 years old,
 and should be well supported, but you just don't know.

 Nice and high end.

slow by CGI workstation standards...

 Here, I run into my limit of being able to help you.  I have no experience
 with dual CPU installations.  It **shouldn't matter** (TM), but it is another
 variable to explore.

while mucking about on the internet i have come across this page[1].
and its important parts:

Beware: Two Versions of Tyan n6650w (S2915 and S2915-E)

The early release of the Tyan Thunder n6650W (called S2915) only
supported the second generation dual-core 2200-series (or 8000-series)
processors. There were numerous problems associated with the BIOS
(ver. 1.00). Since then Tyan has fixed all known problems; and then,
they released the new version (S2915-E).

Without being aware of this, I previously obtained the S2915 (about a
year ago) thinking that it supported quad-core processors. My mistake
for not checking Tyan web site prior to purchasing it, but because I
found it cheap on eBay, as in retrospect I was sure the previous owner
tried to get rid of it. I encountered various problems from not being
able to successfully boot into Linux to BIOS configuration issues that
underrated the CPU performance. In fact, without knowing the support
issue, I first tried to put two quad-core processors only to find out
the system did not boot.

Originally, I used two dual-core 2216 (2.6GHz) and found various
strange inconsistent benchmark scores by SiSoft Sandra XII (2008). The
CPU's Arithmetic and Multimedia scores were so low that I was forced
to suspect they were due to software compatibility. Strangely enough,
I played around with the BIOS, setting different multiprocessor
specification, including ECC options, Hammer HT setting as well as OS
installed preference. The benchmark scores yielded differently for
each test. One instance, the score yielded 


On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 8:06 AM, Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 I wonder whether your image is for some reason misregistering on the monitor
 and moving too far to the left?  You *should* get a flashing underscore after
 booting into recovery mode, and it is the signal to enter your root password.
 Have you tried that?

that is 100% my fail as a photographer. there is a flashing _ _ _ _
at the bottom left, but no keyboard inputs seem to make a bit of
difference.

 If so, have you tried adjusting your monitor so that the image moves to the
 right?

LCD = no adjustments.

thanks a lot for help on this very annoying issue. i do appreciate it.

[1]http://www.epinions.com/review/Tyan_Thunder_n6650W_S2915_E_Workstation_Board_nVIDIA_Socket_F_1207_1000MHz_HT_64GB_DDR_Motherboard/content_471274262148


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Re: Ugly appearence after upgrade

2011-09-04 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 04 Sep 2011 13:32:57 -0300, Chir0n wrote:

 after an aptitude dist-upgrade to testing (and to unstable too) some
 GTK2 applications look ugly, like GTK1 appplications.

Yep, here also, at least in my VM that runs wheezy (scrolls and menus are 
like GTK1 old-style).

 Gnome-terminal and Epiphany are two of them.
 
 I tried install testing and after a aptitude upgrade the problem
 returned.
 
 Does anyone know how to solve this?

I guess this is something related to the migration to GTK3 and GNOME3. 
I'd say we have to be patient.

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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread Doug

On 09/04/2011 03:41 AM, shawn wilson wrote:



On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org 
mailto:mi...@gnu.org wrote:


 lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com mailto:lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
  just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
  so the stores only sold WD.

 Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
 past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP 
was presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.


Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread 
will keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember 
something bad about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP 
probably  got his wish :)




It's been a few years since I retired, but I remember the IT guys 
replacing a _lot_ of Western Digital drives.  I guess the
company bought them because they were cheaper, but I don't think they 
saved any money.  For my own use, I have been using Seagate and
Hitachi, and have had no trouble in quite some time.  Obviously, YMMV, 
but what I saw sould not encourage me to buy WD.


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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread shawn wilson
On Sep 4, 2011 7:53 AM, D G Teed donald.t...@gmail.com wrote:

 On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 4:41 AM, shawn wilson ag4ve...@gmail.com wrote:


 On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:
 
  lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
   just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
   so the stores only sold WD.
 
  Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
  past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

 I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

 Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably  got his
wish :)

 Well, actually, you have all helped that to happen by broadening the
topic.  It wasn't about a brand, but about
 a brand and model type specifically.  This is about Green WD drives, not
all WD drives.


My original response was to critisize the OP for sending out such an
inflammatory and probably incorrect message. To me, it wasn't about the
manufacture or the brand (I'm pretty sure I've got Seagate discs) but about
the flawed process that brought about his rant.

 Before buying anything important to you, or something you don't want to
buy all over again
 because you are careful with money, you should research the consumer
reaction or solicit opinions on it.


This is also true. See, a few years ago linux didn't have drivers for
everything and you had to research components or there was a 60% or more
chance it won't work. Granted, there shouldn't have ever been any discs that
wouldn't work in a system. However researching all other components got me
in the mindset to always look before I buy.

Actually, linux is probably the main reason I can't buy anything in a store
(besides DVDs, clothes, and groceries and that's literally it) because
there's no computer there for me to research what I'm buying and compare
prices. Yes I have my phone if I'm in a store but I generally find I don't
want to buy that product or at least there, so why bother.

 I researched the green drives from all makers and learned they are
engineered to do one thing well: save
 power while in a desktop not in use.  They are not designed for servers,
nor even for intense computing
 use like gaming or RAID.  I also noticed consumer backlash on all green
drives, and cheaper pricing on
 green drives than any other kind (fire sale at some retailers).  So I did
not buy green drives.

 I have used WD blue SATA 1TB drives in a couple of servers with RAID 1
and
 there is no problem. The most intense server using them is running cyrus
mail,
 and horde webmail, for about 3000 mailboxes and probably 500 users
 visiting their mailboxes every day.  The horde webmail on there also
serves
 users of another cyrus system with 4000 more active mailboxes on it.
 The system is backed up nightly with EMC networker, and runs
 in a room with air conditioning.  Right now, early on a Sunday morning,
the load is
 only .35 and the hard drive internal temperature from smartctl is 37 C.  I
imagine
 it does go above 40 when loaded or under full backup duty.


:)


Re: sharing one r/w unix filesystem between different machines and users

2011-09-04 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz
Putting a directory like /tmp (with the same permissions on the USB drive)
would allow any user to create files and directories there. If this user sets
permissions for own files to allow others to read and write, any other user is
able to overwrite the contents of this files.
Any user can mount the drive with the pmount command. The ownership and
permissions are stored in the filesystem on the USB drive.
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Re: DO NOT BUY Western Digital Green Drives (also present in WD Elements external USB cases)

2011-09-04 Thread shawn wilson
On Sep 4, 2011 1:28 PM, Doug dmcgarr...@optonline.net wrote:

 On 09/04/2011 03:41 AM, shawn wilson wrote:


 On Sep 4, 2011 3:23 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:
 
  lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com writes:
   just guess ...  might be wrong, might lots of people coming for WD,
   so the stores only sold WD.
 
  Dunno, but I've had extremely good experiences with WD drives in the
  past, so I'd definitely favor them when I buy a new one...

 I have absolutely no oppinion. I was merely pointing out that the OP was
presenting his oppinion as fact and I thought that pretty messed up.

 Grented, due to the inciteful the subject was, I'm sure this thread will
keep going for at least a week and most of us will remember something bad
about WD the next time we go buy a disc. Oh well. The OP probably  got his
wish :)


 It's been a few years since I retired, but I remember the IT guys
replacing a _lot_ of Western Digital drives.  I guess the
 company bought them because they were cheaper, but I don't think they
saved any money.  For my own use, I have been using Seagate and
 Hitachi, and have had no trouble in quite some time.  Obviously, YMMV, but
what I saw sould not encourage me to buy WD.

So, if I have 1000 computers with 1000 WD discs and nothing else in them,
how many Seagate discs will fail?

Discs do fail and I look forward to someone posting the fail rate of
different manufacturer discs. However the above statement doesn't seem to be
based on logic.


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