Re: go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread Javier Barroso
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 6:06 AM, lina  wrote:
> On Tuesday 25,October,2011 11:53 PM, Raf Czlonka wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:50:53PM BST, Raf Czlonka wrote:
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:23:51PM BST, lina wrote:

 a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,

 such as cd Atheone/
>>>
>>> As long as "theone" is a unique name and you're using zsh:
>>>
>>> % cd **/*/theone
>>>
>>> will work.
>
> $ cd **/*/500ns
> bash: cd: **/*/500ns: No such file or directory
You need to use zsh (different shell from bash)

>
>> Besides "pushd", "popd" of course.
>
> Do I need install some package? I checked the debian package, seems no one
> has the name pushd and popd.
They are built-in commands in bash, you don't need any package more
than bash (or maybe other shell)

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Re: Dual monitor setup

2011-10-25 Thread Johann Spies
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 04:24:47AM +0200, yudi v wrote:
> Installed Squeeze on my laptop and hooked up an external monitor, worked fine
> for few days and after a reboot yesterday, there is not output to the external
> monitor.

I use gnome-display-properties for this or otherwise the following script using 
xrandr
to activate the use of two screens :

#!/bin/sh

sudo xrandr --output eDP1 --auto --output VGA1 --auto --same-as eDP1
sudo xrandr  --output VGA1 --off 
sudo xrandr --output VGA1 --auto --above eDP1

or 

#!/bin/sh

sudo xrandr --output eDP1 --auto
sudo xrandr --output VGA1 --off

to switch back to just the default one.

Your options may differ.  See the xrandr documention.

> I tried to check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
> But it's not there.
> 
> Why is there no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then what configuration file is the X
> using?

I dont't know and would also like to know.

> Is Debian using nouveau, how to check what driver is being used?

You can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log

> 
>   •  Xorg -configure

It should not be necessary.

Regards
Johann
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Re: icedove filiter folder

2011-10-25 Thread lina

On Wednesday 26,October,2011 12:45 AM, lina wrote:



The problem is that:

1] The folder in server failed to synchronize to the icedove local one.

So there are only Inbox, Drafts and Trash in icedove.

On the server (namely through webpage), I once created such as debian 
folder to filter those emails from debian-list. Linux-kernel folder to 
filter emails from Linux-kernel.


2] I attempt to create new folder and re-build the filter on icedove.
so when I click the right button and choose "New Folder"

If the new folder name is the same as the one in server, it showed me:
The current operation on "debian" did not succeed. The server for the 
account lina@myemailaddress respond: Target folder already exist.


I had no problem created a folder such as TEST (so long as the name is 
not the same as the one on the server), but during rename, it would me 
respond: Target folder already exist.


3] The folder in server which contains other emails failed to show in 
the icedove. (some emails last 2 years).


4] I don't know what to do, even I tried to remove the account and 
re-add the account again.


Thanks!





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Re: go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread lina

On Tuesday 25,October,2011 11:53 PM, Raf Czlonka wrote:

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:50:53PM BST, Raf Czlonka wrote:

On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:23:51PM BST, lina wrote:

a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,

such as cd Atheone/

As long as "theone" is a unique name and you're using zsh:

% cd **/*/theone

will work.

$ cd **/*/500ns
bash: cd: **/*/500ns: No such file or directory


Besides "pushd", "popd" of course.
Do I need install some package? I checked the debian package, seems no 
one has the name pushd and popd.


Thanks,



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Re: new to pacemaker and heartbeat on debian...getting error..

2011-10-25 Thread Joey L
Hey Gilles - I got it to somewhat work 
I tried it with heartbeat under debian and I actually got to see the
machines online and talking to each other!!!
What a struggle - but do see the beauty of mc --- but i got it to work
with heartbeat and not pacemaker/corosync.
Is there a down side to this ?
i was looking to failover services such as dns,ip,apache,mysql,asterisk,nfs ??
i have been googling some sites to find out more about the
configuration and how to make it work for me.
anything you can point me to would be helpful.
i will go back over your mails in the morning - it is midnight..and
just exhausted.
thanks for your help.



On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:52 PM, Gilles Mocellin
 wrote:
> Le Tuesday 25 October 2011 23:20:34 Joey L, vous avez écrit :
> [...]
>
> Hi !
>
>> and my config is this :
>> root@debby1:~# cat /etc/corosync/corosync.conf
>> ## generated by drbd-gui 0.9.9
>>
>> aisexec {
>>       user: root
>>       group: root
>> }
>>
>> corosync {
>>       user: root
>>       group: root
>> }
>>
>> amf {
>>       mode: disabled
>> }
>>
>> logging {
>>       to_stderr: yes
>>       debug: off
>>       timestamp: on
>>       to_file: no
>>       to_syslog: yes
>>       syslog_facility: daemon
>> }
>>
>> totem {
>>       version: 2
>>       token: 3000
>>       token_retransmits_before_loss_const: 10
>>       join: 60
>>       consensus: 4000
>>       vsftype: none
>>       max_messages: 20
>>       clear_node_high_bit: yes
>>       secauth: on
>>       threads: 0
>>       # nodeid: 1234
>>       rrp_mode: active
>>
>>       interface {
>>               ringnumber: 0
>>               bindnetaddr: 192.168.2.0
>>               mcastaddr: 226.94.1.1
>>               mcastport: 5405
>>       }
>>
>>       interface {
>>               ringnumber: 1
>>               bindnetaddr: 192.168.2.0
>>               mcastaddr: 226.94.1.2
>>               mcastport: 5405
>>       }
>> }
>>
>> service {
>>       ver: 0
>>       name: pacemaker
>>       use_mgmtd: no
>> }
>
> Here is mine :
>
> aisexec {
>        user: root
>        group: root
> }
>
> corosync {
>        user: root
>        group: root
> }
>
> amf {
>        mode: disabled
> }
>
> logging {
>        to_stderr: yes
>        debug: off
>        timestamp: on
>        to_logfile: no
>        to_syslog: yes
>        syslog_facility: daemon
> }
>
> totem {
>        version: 2
>        token: 3000
>        token_retransmits_before_loss_const: 10
>        join: 60
>        consensus: 4000
>        vsftype: none
>        max_messages: 20
>        clear_node_high_bit: yes
>        secauth: on
>        threads: 0
>        # nodeid: 1234
>        rrp_mode: active
>
>        interface {
>                ringnumber: 0
>                bindnetaddr: 10.100.0.0
>                mcastaddr: 225.0.0.4
>                mcastport: 5405
>        }
> }
>
> service {
>        ver: 0
>        name: pacemaker
>        use_mgmtd: no
> }
>
> I've just created one interface.
> I think two rings is usefull when you have multiple networks interfaces
> (public/private...)
>
> [...]
>>
>> root@debby1:~#
>>
>>
>> 3. both nodes are in a wait... status.
>> I get this error when i log at the log of my node:
>>
>> Oct 25 13:58:27 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (init.c, 76, OpenHPI is not
>> configured.  See openhpi.conf file.)
>> Oct 25 13:58:27 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (openhpid.cpp, 270, There was
>> an error initializing OpenHPI)
>
> This is not about the cluster.
>
>> Oct 25 14:15:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Election Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!
>> Oct 25 14:18:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
>> Oct 25 14:21:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
>> Oct 25 14:24:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
>> Oct 25 14:27:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
>> Oct 25 14:30:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
>> Oct 25 14:33:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
>> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
> [...]
>> Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!
>
> This is not good...
> It seems that your nodes don't see each over, via the multicast canal.
> [...]
>
>> 4. i can not get the nodes out of "wait.." status and in the folder
>> options - the service folder - i can not create a service or group.
>>
>> I am so close  - but yet so far - I rebuilt new boxes and configured
>> different ip address.
>> debby1 - 192.168.2.121 and debby2 - 192.168.2.122
>>
>> thanks
>> mjh
>
> You're near, be persistant !
>


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Dual monitor setup

2011-10-25 Thread yudi v
Installed Squeeze on my laptop and hooked up an external monitor, worked
fine for few days and after a reboot yesterday, there is not output to the
external monitor.
it's got a message on the screen saying to use optimal resolution 1280 x
1024 60Hz.

laptop has an nvidia Gforce 7400 GPU


That's how it's setup. Never has this issue before. I am using the default
video driver installed by Debian. I think it's nouveau.
I tried to check the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file.
But it's not there.

Why is there no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file, then what configuration file is the
X using?

Is Debian using nouveau, how to check what driver is being used?

I tried to reconfigure X by following the instructions from
http://wiki.debian.org/Xorg?action=show&redirect=ConfigureX

steps:

   - Switch to a *console* as root (*not* a terminal emulator in X), then
   run:
   -

   /etc/init.d/gdm3 stop

   -

   cd /etc/X11/

   -

Xorg -configure


this process created a /root/xorg.conf file. is it supposed to be at that
location?

This did not resolve the issue.
Any suggestions?


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[OT] Amazon S3 vs Google storage

2011-10-25 Thread Dan
Hi,

Do you have any experience with Amazon S3 or Google Storage? Which one
would you prefer (for Europe)? I think both interact well with debian.
I found in debian stable the packages s3cmd and gsutil to interact
with the buckets. I would like to backup my data in the net.

Thanks,
Dan


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Re: "reloading" /etc/login.defs ENV_PATH without restarting

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
gautamc wrote:
> 1. I need a certain directory on my debian squeeze machine ( /var/lib/
> gems/1.8/bin/ ) to be in the PATH when i run a sudo command. Hence, I
> appended this dir to the ENV_PATH item in /etc/login.defs

Two comments:

First comment: If you need that for sudo then instead of changing
login.defs I think you should set the change in /etc/sudoers and add
that path to the secure_path variable.  Here is the default:

  Defaults 
secure_path="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin"

Add your path to that path and place it in the sudoers file and then
it will always be activated for each use of sudo.

Second comment: You might want to subscribe to debian-ruby and discuss
your ruby environment there.  It is really a tragedy that the upstream
Ruby community has taught everyone that you must use root to smash
installations over the top of systems.  It is a shame that Ruby
couldn't have learned from the trail blazed by Perl.  That is a very
long discussion however.

> 2. Is there is a way to get /etc/login.defs "re-evaluated" without
> rebooting.  I put an export PATH in ~/.profile and have the path set
> for the non-root user. However, a sudo command doesn't see the new dir
> in $PATH.

The /etc/login.defs and ~/.profile and /etc/profile all are sourced
when the user logs into the account.  Therefore in order to source
those again you either need to manually source the files (with "source
~/.profile or ". ~/.profile")), OR exec a new login shell on top of
the current shell (with "exec bash -l"), OR log out and log back in
again.  You do NOT need to reboot.

However none of those options are very appealing to me.  On a
Unix-like system such as Debian you should always be able to install
something and have it be immediately available.  It is a tragedy when
that paradigm is broken by misguided processes such as one my peeves
/etc/profile.d/ and others.  Setting up sudo's secure_path takes
immediate affect and does not require any manual sourcing or logging
out and back in.

Bob


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Re: new to pacemaker and heartbeat on debian...getting error..

2011-10-25 Thread Gilles Mocellin
Le Tuesday 25 October 2011 23:20:34 Joey L, vous avez écrit :
[...]

Hi !

> and my config is this :
> root@debby1:~# cat /etc/corosync/corosync.conf
> ## generated by drbd-gui 0.9.9
> 
> aisexec {
>   user: root
>   group: root
> }
> 
> corosync {
>   user: root
>   group: root
> }
> 
> amf {
>   mode: disabled
> }
> 
> logging {
>   to_stderr: yes
>   debug: off
>   timestamp: on
>   to_file: no
>   to_syslog: yes
>   syslog_facility: daemon
> }
> 
> totem {
>   version: 2
>   token: 3000
>   token_retransmits_before_loss_const: 10
>   join: 60
>   consensus: 4000
>   vsftype: none
>   max_messages: 20
>   clear_node_high_bit: yes
>   secauth: on
>   threads: 0
>   # nodeid: 1234
>   rrp_mode: active
> 
>   interface {
>   ringnumber: 0
>   bindnetaddr: 192.168.2.0
>   mcastaddr: 226.94.1.1
>   mcastport: 5405
>   }
> 
>   interface {
>   ringnumber: 1
>   bindnetaddr: 192.168.2.0
>   mcastaddr: 226.94.1.2
>   mcastport: 5405
>   }
> }
> 
> service {
>   ver: 0
>   name: pacemaker
>   use_mgmtd: no
> }

Here is mine :

aisexec {
user: root
group: root
}

corosync {
user: root
group: root
}

amf {
mode: disabled
}

logging {
to_stderr: yes
debug: off
timestamp: on
to_logfile: no
to_syslog: yes
syslog_facility: daemon
}

totem {
version: 2
token: 3000
token_retransmits_before_loss_const: 10
join: 60
consensus: 4000
vsftype: none
max_messages: 20
clear_node_high_bit: yes
secauth: on
threads: 0
# nodeid: 1234
rrp_mode: active

interface {
ringnumber: 0
bindnetaddr: 10.100.0.0
mcastaddr: 225.0.0.4
mcastport: 5405
}
}

service {
ver: 0
name: pacemaker
use_mgmtd: no
}

I've just created one interface.
I think two rings is usefull when you have multiple networks interfaces 
(public/private...)

[...]
> 
> root@debby1:~#
> 
> 
> 3. both nodes are in a wait... status.
> I get this error when i log at the log of my node:
> 
> Oct 25 13:58:27 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (init.c, 76, OpenHPI is not
> configured.  See openhpi.conf file.)
> Oct 25 13:58:27 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (openhpid.cpp, 270, There was
> an error initializing OpenHPI)

This is not about the cluster.

> Oct 25 14:15:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Election Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!
> Oct 25 14:18:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
> Oct 25 14:21:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
> Oct 25 14:24:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
> Oct 25 14:27:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
> Oct 25 14:30:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
> Oct 25 14:33:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
> Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
[...]
> Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!

This is not good...
It seems that your nodes don't see each over, via the multicast canal.
[...]

> 4. i can not get the nodes out of "wait.." status and in the folder
> options - the service folder - i can not create a service or group.
> 
> I am so close  - but yet so far - I rebuilt new boxes and configured
> different ip address.
> debby1 - 192.168.2.121 and debby2 - 192.168.2.122
> 
> thanks
> mjh

You're near, be persistant !


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Re: bizarre look of libreoffice under KDE/compiz

2011-10-25 Thread Pavlos Parissis
On 25 October 2011 17:19, Camaleón  wrote:
[...snip...]

>>> Let's recap...
>>>
>>> - KDE
>>> - Compiz
>>> - Cairo-dock
>>> - Discrete VGA card (Radeon HD 4290) + radeon driver
>>> - Backported kernel
>>>
>>> I think you are putting too much spicy on the soup :-)
>>
>> Is it really? I don't think I am asking too much. There are plenty of
>> users using all of these and I can't believe that on a modern hardware
>> is too much to have all of these.
>
On my initial mail I made a mistake saying that I was running compiz.
I am running compositing from KDE. Somehow I thought that I was
running Compiz because I enabled the desktop effects from the KDE
control settings. Don't ask me how I made that mistake:-)

> Modern hardware knows nothing about such software mixture.
>
> I mean, if we are referring to the hardware layer, your computer can be
> able to run all those applications just fine but speaking purely about
> software, I fear to run just _one_ of the said components so imagine
> running all of them at a time... it has to be a complete headache for
> your system (KDE environment is now managed by kwin -which provides
> compositing- and you are also running Compiz -which provides
> compositing-, then you have added Cairo-dock -to enhance the desktop look
> & feel- and all that is managed by a VGA card that is not very powerful -
> mid-range- with a backported kernel.
>
> I would considered myself lucky if my system can be started with all that.
>

Currently I run the same setup, KDE with compositing and cairo-dock
with opengl, but I have removed KDE integration of the libreoffice
(removed libreoffice-kde package). So far not problems.

>>> I would try to disable compiz and see what happens. It could be "cairo-
>>> dock" or "compiz" (or a mix of a lot of other things, the soup has many
>>> ingredients...) the ones making the screen goes corrupted. If disabling
>>> compiz fixes the problem (the same as happens with GNOME) I would
>>> contact compiz at their forums or mailing lists.

If I run compiz --replace I get a yellow screen and i have to reboot.
I also see sometimes that the rendering is not working well. For
instance when I issue alt-f1 to get the KDE menu the background of the
menu is not white but has parts of the desktop image. Some screen
corruptions is going and I believe is has to do with the driver.

>> I was about to do that, but I said I want to find the solution of the
>> problem rather to work around it.
>
> Disabling components will help you to find what is causing LO (it was
> just LO?) to render badly and you will be able to direct your report to
> the proper project/package to they can fix it or tell you what to "tweak"
> to make the error dissapear :-)

I will continue the experiments and most likely I will contact
kde+compiz teams. I also need to go through all the bug reports of the
relevant apps to see if it is something already reported.

thanks camaleon,
pavlos


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"reloading" /etc/login.defs ENV_PATH without restarting

2011-10-25 Thread gautamc
Hi,

1. I need a certain directory on my debian squeeze machine ( /var/lib/
gems/1.8/bin/ ) to be in the PATH when i run a sudo command. Hence, I
appended this dir to the ENV_PATH item in /etc/login.defs

2. Is there is a way to get /etc/login.defs "re-evaluated" without
rebooting.  I put an export PATH in ~/.profile and have the path set
for the non-root user. However, a sudo command doesn't see the new dir
in $PATH.

thnx - Gautam
( May the source stay with GNU)


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"reloading" /etc/login.defs ENV_PATH without restarting

2011-10-25 Thread gautam chekuri
Hi,

1. I need a certain directory on my debian squeeze machine ( /var/lib/
gems/1.8/bin/ ) to be in the PATH when i run a sudo command. Hence, I
appended this dir to the ENV_PATH item in /etc/login.defs

2. Is there is a way to get /etc/login.defs "re-evaluated" without
rebooting.  I put an export PATH in ~/.profile and have the path set
for the non-root user. However, a sudo command doesn't see the new dir
in $PATH.

thnx - Gautam
( May the source stay with GNU)


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Re: new to pacemaker and heartbeat on debian...getting error..

2011-10-25 Thread Joey L
>> > You really should use the DRBD Management Console, it will install what
>> > is needed, and you can choose corosync or heartbeat.
>>
>> i did a search for DRBD - that is out of my price range - looking for
>> free stuff or close to it if possible.
>> Is there another gui for someone who is running debian sarge version 6.0
>>  thanks
>> mjh
>
> Excuse-me, I was not clear, I talk about the Linbit cluster management console
> I already talked about, not DRBD.
> The console was initialy made to manage DRBD, but it evolved to a generic
> Pacemaker console.
>
> http://oss.linbit.com/drbd-mc/
>
> Yes, it's a Java app, but it's really a time saver sometimes.
>
>

Ok - thanks for the heads up once again!!!
I was able to find the drbd-mc java console and install the packages
via the console.
You are right - it is a lot easier that way !
I have installed Pacemaker/Coro - 1.0.9/1.2.1 and Drdb 8.3.7
My iissus are now:
1. pacemaker does not start -- that is what the console says.
2. when i installed on both nodes - it asked for me to add interfaces -
for mcastaddr: i created 2 -- mcastaddr: 226.94.1.1 and 
mcastaddr: 226.94.1.2

and my config is this :
root@debby1:~# cat /etc/corosync/corosync.conf
## generated by drbd-gui 0.9.9

aisexec {
user: root
group: root
}

corosync {
user: root
group: root
}

amf {
mode: disabled
}

logging {
to_stderr: yes
debug: off
timestamp: on
to_file: no
to_syslog: yes
syslog_facility: daemon
}

totem {
version: 2
token: 3000
token_retransmits_before_loss_const: 10
join: 60
consensus: 4000
vsftype: none
max_messages: 20
clear_node_high_bit: yes
secauth: on
threads: 0
# nodeid: 1234
rrp_mode: active

interface {
ringnumber: 0
bindnetaddr: 192.168.2.0
mcastaddr: 226.94.1.1
mcastport: 5405
}

interface {
ringnumber: 1
bindnetaddr: 192.168.2.0
mcastaddr: 226.94.1.2
mcastport: 5405
}
}

service {
ver: 0
name: pacemaker
use_mgmtd: no
}

root@debby1:~#


3. both nodes are in a wait... status.
I get this error when i log at the log of my node:

Oct 25 13:58:27 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (init.c, 76, OpenHPI is not
configured.  See openhpi.conf file.)
Oct 25 13:58:27 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (openhpid.cpp, 270, There was
an error initializing OpenHPI)
Oct 25 14:15:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Election Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!
Oct 25 14:18:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:21:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:24:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:27:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:30:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:33:38 debby1 crmd: [21949]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:37:18 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (init.c, 76, OpenHPI is not
configured.  See openhpi.conf file.)
Oct 25 14:37:18 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (openhpid.cpp, 270, There was
an error initializing OpenHPI)
Oct 25 14:40:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped: Election
Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!
Oct 25 14:43:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:46:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:49:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:52:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:55:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 14:58:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 15:01:40 debby1 crmd: [2852]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 15:04:36 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (init.c, 76, OpenHPI is not
configured.  See openhpi.conf file.)
Oct 25 15:04:36 debby1 openhpid: ERROR: (openhpid.cpp, 270, There was
an error initializing OpenHPI)
Oct 25 15:08:07 debby1 crmd: [2631]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped: Election
Timeout (I_ELECTION_DC) just popped!
Oct 25 15:11:07 debby1 crmd: [2631]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 15:14:07 debby1 crmd: [2631]: ERROR: crm_timer_popped:
Integration Timer (I_INTEGRATED) just popped!
Oct 25 15:17:07 debby1 crmd: [2631]: ERROR: crm_

Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig

2011-10-25 Thread David Goodenough
On Tuesday 25 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:30:53 +0100, David Goodenough wrote:
> > In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx commands
> > which get converted into iwconfig commands.  iwconfig is now deprecated
> > for many wireless cards, in favour of iw.
> > 
> > Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for iw?
> 
> Hmmm, I don't know if this will be of any help :-?
> 
> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw
> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw/replace-iwconfig
> 
> It basically documents the most common operations done from "iw".
> 
> Greetings,
Yes, I know I can do it manually, I was looking for the same kind
of alias that wireless-tools provided.

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Re: Kernel upgraded two or three times since install

2011-10-25 Thread Bob Proulx
Darac Marjal wrote:
> I'm not sure when the functionality was added (disclaimer: I run Sid,
> but have had this for quite a while now), but there is now a
> distribution-lead way of telling the user when a reboot is required.
> When a package such as linux-base is updated, the postinstall script
> touches /var/run/reboot-required and appends its name (i.e.
> 'linux-base') to /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs.

That functionality is in the update-notifier-common package, a
dependency of update-notifier and eventually a dependency of
update-manager-gnome and as such is normally installed with a GNOME
desktop installation to put an icon in the system tray.

Your suggestion is a good one but update-notifier-common isn't always
installed.  For example if you have a headless server then a full
desktop session manager isn't needed.  I hate to be a rainy day but
using the update-notifier isn't going to be as reliable as
crosschecking the running kernel with /proc/version.

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Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:30:53 +0100, David Goodenough wrote:

> In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx commands
> which get converted into iwconfig commands.  iwconfig is now deprecated
> for many wireless cards, in favour of iw.
> 
> Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for iw?

Hmmm, I don't know if this will be of any help :-?

http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw
http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw/replace-iwconfig

It basically documents the most common operations done from "iw".

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Re: which dir can be considered move to the external driver

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 01:01:57 +0800, lina wrote:

> On Wednesday 26,October,2011 12:55 AM, Camaleón wrote:
>> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:58:52 +0800, lina wrote:
>>
>>> I just wonder which dir (listed as below) can be considered to put in
>>> external driver (connected by USB 2.0/3.0).
>>>
>>> bin etc include lib sbin share src var
>>>
>>> src ? share?
>>>
>>> Just curious, (I wanna install some new packages in external driver. )
>> I'd say you can put whichever -or none- just take into account the
>> external hard disk can be slower than your internal hdd and will have
>> to be powered on and mounted (accesible) when you run the system.
>>
>> As a norm, I prefer to store plain data (no applications) on external
>> USB drives (if it has an external power supply, remember to be properly
>> protected for blackouts).

> Thanks, on a machine, I only left 145G for the system. 

Only??

My whole "/" is ~100 GiB of size and is almost empty :-)

> Just for perhaps-testing purpose.
> boot is not,
> var needs write frequently ? (not sure) so better not. 

"/var/log" is written constantly (logs are placed there).

> etc is small? so no need.
> 
> mainly about how to understand the bin, include, lib, sbin, share,
> 
> does those access often during normal use? still curious.

There is a brief and practical explanation about it at Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_Hierarchy_Standard#Directory_structure

Have you considered moving "/opt" and place the apps there? Unless they 
have any specific installation requirements, "/opt" could be a good place to 
have it separately.

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Re: icedove filiter folder

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 00:45:43 +0800, lina wrote:

> I used the filiter in web page,

"Filiter" or "filter"? :-?

> so there are different folder,
> 
> while on icedove,
> 
> do I need to re-set those filiter again, correct?

(...)

I'm sorry but I don't understand a word (I must be dense today), can you 
rephrase or expand the information a bit? :-)

I guess you are playing with filters in Gmail's webmail and also from 
Icedove but it is not clear what's your goal/problem.

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Re: which dir can be considered move to the external driver

2011-10-25 Thread lina

On Wednesday 26,October,2011 12:55 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:58:52 +0800, lina wrote:


I just wonder which dir (listed as below) can be considered to put in
external driver (connected by USB 2.0/3.0).

bin etc include lib sbin share src var

src ? share?

Just curious, (I wanna install some new packages in external driver. )

I'd say you can put whichever -or none- just take into account the
external hard disk can be slower than your internal hdd and will have to
be powered on and mounted (accesible) when you run the system.

As a norm, I prefer to store plain data (no applications) on external USB
drives (if it has an external power supply, remember to be properly
protected for blackouts).
Thanks, on a machine, I only left 145G for the system. Just for 
perhaps-testing purpose.

boot is not,
var needs write frequently ? (not sure) so better not.
etc is small? so no need.

mainly about how to understand the bin, include, lib, sbin, share,

does those access often during normal use? still curious.

Greetings,


Thanks,


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Re: which dir can be considered move to the external driver

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 22:58:52 +0800, lina wrote:

> I just wonder which dir (listed as below) can be considered to put in
> external driver (connected by USB 2.0/3.0).
> 
> bin etc include lib sbin share src var
> 
> src ? share?
> 
> Just curious, (I wanna install some new packages in external driver. )

I'd say you can put whichever -or none- just take into account the 
external hard disk can be slower than your internal hdd and will have to 
be powered on and mounted (accesible) when you run the system.

As a norm, I prefer to store plain data (no applications) on external USB 
drives (if it has an external power supply, remember to be properly 
protected for blackouts).

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icedove filiter folder

2011-10-25 Thread lina
Hi,

I used the filiter in web page,

so there are different folder,

while on icedove,

do I need to re-set those filiter again, correct?

took gmail one as example.

I have a folder called gmail which contains all coming emails.

while the other parallel folder, such as debian folder, which can also
fetch emails, so there is double.

I must do something wrong in configuration.

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Re: go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread green
lina wrote at 2011-10-25 10:23 -0500:
> a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,

Perhaps a bit different than you are thinking, but you could check the xd 
package.


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Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig

2011-10-25 Thread David Goodenough
In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx 
commands which get converted into iwconfig commands.  iwconfig
is now deprecated for many wireless cards, in favour of iw.

Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for
iw?

David


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Re: go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread Javier Barroso
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 5:23 PM, lina  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,
>
> such as cd Atheone/
>
> Tab is good. Just curious
See autojump package in repo

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Re: go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:50:53PM BST, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:23:51PM BST, lina wrote:
> > a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,
> > 
> > such as cd Atheone/
> 
> As long as "theone" is a unique name and you're using zsh:
> 
> % cd **/*/theone
> 
> will work.

Besides "pushd", "popd" of course.

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Re: go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 04:23:51PM BST, lina wrote:
> a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,
> 
> such as cd Atheone/

As long as "theone" is a unique name and you're using zsh:

% cd **/*/theone

will work.

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Re: Weird DNS error?

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:54:08 -0400, Greg van Anders wrote:

(...)

> I can successfully host  192.168.1.254 to the above, as well as
> many others. Yet if I try to, for example, ssh to the same server I get
> "Name or service unknown". Adding -v, or -vv doesn't seem to tell me any
> more.
> 
> I find this a bit confusing.
> 
> Any other suggestions?

Yes (but maybe this has been already suggested...), try:

dig @8.8.8.8 yahoo.com

And put here the output.

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Re: grub wish

2011-10-25 Thread Richard
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 14:02:30 + (UTC)
Camaleón  wrote:

> On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:28:34 +0100, Richard wrote:
> 
> > is it possible on boot up to go to the login screen wait 10 seconds, and
> > the automatically login a selected account?
> 
> (...)
> 
> If you mean how to delay the login screen for 10 seconds and if no user 
> is logged in that time then proceed with auto-login using a preset/
> selected account... I don't know if it is possible.
> 
> Anyway, this has nothing to do with GRUB ;-)
> 
> Greetings,
> 

Thanks, GRUB has evolved so much it's not easy to know where it stops and the 
DM takes over.

No doubt I will be told ;)

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go deep directories

2011-10-25 Thread lina
Hi,

a quick question, are there some tricks to go deep directories quickly,

such as cd Atheone/

Tab is good. Just curious.

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Re: bizarre look of libreoffice under KDE/compiz

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 22:02:31 +0200, Pavlos Parissis wrote:

> On 23 October 2011 12:16, Camaleón  wrote:

>> Hi, please, avoid using html formatted messages, they render very badly
>> in some e-mail readers :-)

> Sorry I forgot to disable html on gmail.

This looks better, thanks.

(...)

>> Let's recap...
>>
>> - KDE
>> - Compiz
>> - Cairo-dock
>> - Discrete VGA card (Radeon HD 4290) + radeon driver 
>> - Backported kernel
>>
>> I think you are putting too much spicy on the soup :-)
> 
> Is it really? I don't think I am asking too much. There are plenty of
> users using all of these and I can't believe that on a modern hardware
> is too much to have all of these.

Modern hardware knows nothing about such software mixture. 

I mean, if we are referring to the hardware layer, your computer can be 
able to run all those applications just fine but speaking purely about 
software, I fear to run just _one_ of the said components so imagine 
running all of them at a time... it has to be a complete headache for 
your system (KDE environment is now managed by kwin -which provides 
compositing- and you are also running Compiz -which provides 
compositing-, then you have added Cairo-dock -to enhance the desktop look 
& feel- and all that is managed by a VGA card that is not very powerful -
mid-range- with a backported kernel.

I would considered myself lucky if my system can be started with all that.

>> I would try to disable compiz and see what happens. It could be "cairo-
>> dock" or "compiz" (or a mix of a lot of other things, the soup has many
>> ingredients...) the ones making the screen goes corrupted. If disabling
>> compiz fixes the problem (the same as happens with GNOME) I would
>> contact compiz at their forums or mailing lists.
> 
> I was about to do that, but I said I want to find the solution of the
> problem rather to work around it.

Disabling components will help you to find what is causing LO (it was 
just LO?) to render badly and you will be able to direct your report to 
the proper project/package to they can fix it or tell you what to "tweak" 
to make the error dissapear :-)

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Re: Gnome 3 crash with iceweasel and chromium

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 23 Oct 2011 18:32:25 +0100, José Silva wrote:

> On 23/10/11 15:04, Camaleón wrote:
> (...)
>>> (gnome-settings-daemon:7788): Gdk-WARNING **: gnome-settings-daemon:
>>> Fatal IO error 104 (Connection reset by peer) on X server :0.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Ah, then this time it seems is not just gnome-shell that crashes but
>> the whole X server...
>>
>> - What about the Xorg log file? Take a look into "/var/log/Xorg.0.log"
> 
> Just initialization. No trace of crashing log. Last line is:
> 
> [  2335.330] (II) intel(0): Modeline "1920x1080"x0.0  142.40  1920 2028
> 2076 2100  1080 1090 1100 1130 -hsync -vsync (67.8 kHz)

The last line is not useful in this case :-)

In addition to the full current X log, you can also look into the last 
ones ("/var/log/Xorg.0.log.old" or "/var/log/Xorg.1.log"...).

>> - What VGA driver are you using?
> 
> # lspci
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core
> Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09) 01:00.0 VGA
> compatible controller: nVidia Corporation Device 0df6 (rev ff)
> 
> It's an Intel Sandybridge integrated. It's actually a nvdia with optimus
> technology of which I'm only using the intel integrated and I'm shutting
> off power to the nvidia using acpi_call method.

Okay, the Intel driver should be well supported.

>> - Have you tried with a different and fresh-new user?
> 
> Not yet. I'm reluctant to play with that and loose control of my current
> setup. I'll do it if you think it's necessary.

What makes you think that creating a new user will make you to loose the 
control of your current setup? :-)

That will not happen (and if that happens it would be a very critical bug 
IMO), when you add a new user you keep the old one "as is" (intact) so 
there is nothing to worry. In fact, creating a new user is the best way 
to avoid mix up things and allows you to debug problems that can arise 
only with your current user's profile.

>> - Is the fallback mode also crashing?
> 
> I did several "logout/logon/start iceweasel" using fallback mode and it
> didn't happen. As soon as I started iceweasel on gnome-shell, it
> crashed. Apparently, this is triggered by something in one of the tabs
> currently loaded in my iceweasel session.

Then maybe is gnome-shell which makes X to crash :-?

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which dir can be considered move to the external driver

2011-10-25 Thread lina
Hi,

I just wonder which dir (listed as below) can be considered to put in
external driver (connected by USB 2.0/3.0).

bin etc include lib sbin share src var

src ? share?

Just curious, (I wanna install some new packages in external driver. )

Thanks,


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Re: gnome3 startup segfault

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 10:44:38 -0500, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> I would give it some time... gnome-shell just has landed in Sid a
>> couple of days ago. Anyway, I'd say is too early to get Compiz playing
>> fine within gnome-shell:
>> 
>> https://live.gnome.org/GNOME3Myths#I_can.27t_use_Compiz_with_GNOME_Shell.21

> I got the oops screen with user1 but not with user2, so it depends on
> your user settings, apparently...

Using a clean profile to debug gnome-shell is a good start. 

The jump between gnome-shell and the usual gnome-panel is high and just 
started a few weeks ago, so I think this kind of errors that are produced by 
a mix of the old profile settings and the new ones form gnome-shell are also 
expected.

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Re: Sharing files on a local network

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 13:33:55 +1000, yudi v wrote:

> even for Linux-only systems, there really is no
> 
>> satisfactory answer to the OP's question besides Samba/CIFS.
>>
>>
> Samba looks like the best option as I will be adding windows clients and
> a solaris file server.

SSH is still the winner, IMO: Solaris and linux include ssh client 
facilities and windows has WinSCP or FileZilla that allow SFTP 
connections.

If you finally go for the samba alternative (which is a complete 
headache), just ensure to put a good (and monitored) firewall between the 
host -that runs samba- and the Internet...

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Re: Disconnecting from ssh session (connected to a windows pc) without stopping remote process

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 14:07:56 +0300, George wrote:

> I connect from a Debian machine to a windows computer using ssh (server
> is WinSSHd). Is it possible to disconnect from ssh without stopping the
> remote process?

Mmmm, run the process in a way it cannot be terminated when you close the 
terminal. 

In linux this can involve "nohup" and/or "&" but for windows I don't 
know, maybe using the "services" facility :-)

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Re: preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-25 Thread Thorsten Sperber
On 25.10.2011 15:38, Tom H wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Thorsten Sperber  wrote:

> 
> (You don't need the "\" within the recipes)

Thank you, I read about that and wasn't sure, because so many people's
examples contained them.

> 
> Can the installer's partitioning algorithm really do that?!

Hm, I have a pretty similiar recipe with raid and this works..raid &
lvm. I just tested it again to be really sure. There is no
exabyte-recipe result.

> 
>>From "partman-auto-recipe.txt":
> 
> 6. HOW THE ACTUAL PARTITION SIZES ARE COMPUTED
> --
> -snip- 
> 

Well, I have to admit that I didn't make this calculation by hand.

> 
> 7. APPENDIX
> ---
> 
> On May 25th 2004, it was noted that on i386 systems, the very minimum size of
> a Debian installation on a classical (/, /usr, /usr, /home) setup was:
> 48MB on / (6MB on /boot)
> 77MB on /usr
> 17MB on /var
> It is thus wise to use minimum values with this consideration in mind.
> 
> #261244: 70MB are required for /var
> #265290: 1.8GB are not enough for / with desktop
> 
> 

Sure. See my reply to Raf Czlonka with the "real" recipe. I thought that
100MB would tell me something about the error, something quicker/easier
than proving it with 9 partitions/elements for the formula. At this time
of the installation, no information about the wanted packages are
available and even if 100MB are not enough for a base system, it has
*nothing* to do with this calculation.

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Re: grub wish

2011-10-25 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 24 Oct 2011 16:28:34 +0100, Richard wrote:

> is it possible on boot up to go to the login screen wait 10 seconds, and
> the automatically login a selected account?

(...)

If you mean how to delay the login screen for 10 seconds and if no user 
is logged in that time then proceed with auto-login using a preset/
selected account... I don't know if it is possible.

Anyway, this has nothing to do with GRUB ;-)

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Re: preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-25 Thread Thorsten Sperber
On 25.10.2011 14:44, Raf Czlonka wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:49:52AM BST, Thorsten Sperber wrote:
>> 100 1000 100 ext3  \
>> $lvmok{ }   \
>> method{ format }\
>> format{ }   \
>> use-filesystem{ }   \
>> filesystem{ ext3 }  \
>> mountpoint{ / } \
> 
> You're using 100MB as both the minimum and the maximum size of the "/"
> (root) partition. It probably (I'm almost 100% sure) is not enough
> space even for a basic installation - read point 7 in the document you
> quoted.
> 

For the sole purpose of testing.

>> My desired recipe contains an explicitly declared PV, some more LV
>> with more defined stuff and follows all the rules I found in the
>> debian-installer:$doc/debian-installer/devel files (which could
>> really need some more examples and rules description),
> 
> In the same document read points 5-6.

I did, and again: the values are for testing. I am aware that 100MB
(fixed size, therefore both min and max) is far to small.

> 
>> The basic problem is the wrong calculation of the minimum size. I
>> already tried it with different priorities to see their effect on
>> the result, but no change.
> 
> I guess it's not the priority - it's the size.
> 
> Regards,

So, here is the complete thing:


d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
d-i partman-auto/method string lvm
d-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true
d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true
d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true

d-i partman-auto-lvm/new_vg_name string SBS_PV
# d-i partman-lvm/vgcreate string SBS_PV

d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string   \
boot-root:: \
100 500 200 ext3 \
$primary{ } \
$bootable{ }\
method{ format }\
format{ }   \
use_filesystem{ }   \
filesystem{ ext3 }  \
mountpoint{ /boot } \
.   \
\
#physical-volume::   \
#15000 1000 4 ext3\
#$defaultignore{ }   \
#$primary{ } \
#method{ lvm }   \
#vg_name{ SBS_PV }   \
#device{ /dev/sda }  \
#.   \
\
logical-volumes::   \
1000 1000 2000 ext4  \
$lvmok{ }   \
#in_vg{ SBS_PV } \
lv_name{ lvroot }   \
method{ format }\
format{ }   \
use-filesystem{ }   \
filesystem{ ext4 }  \
mountpoint{ / } \
.   \
\
3000 1000 4000 ext4 \
$lvmok{ }   \
#in_vg{ SBS_PV } \
lv_name{ lvusr }\
method{ format }\
format{ }   \
use-filesystem{ }   \
filesystem{ ext4 }  \
mountpoint{ /usr }  \
.   \
\
5000 1000 6000 ext4\
$lvmok{ }   \
#in_vg{ SBS_PV } \
lv_name{ lvvar }\
method{ format }\
format{ }   \
use-filesystem{ }   \
filesystem{ ext4 }  \
mountpoint{ /var }  \
.   \
\
1000 1000 2000 ext4  

Re: preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-25 Thread Tom H
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 6:49 AM, Thorsten Sperber  wrote:
>
> I have a problem regarding the partman-auto/expert-recipe. I have this
> minimal recipe (very minimal, not really useful at all except to prove this
> bug) and it calculates 220100 MB (and a lot more in my original recipe).
>
> : Oct 25 10:25:49 partman-auto: Available disk space (31457) too small for
> expert recipe (220100); skipping
>
> 31457 is the ~30GB sized virtual hard disk I use for testing.
>
> I hope this is fixable, since it is part of the stable installer.
>
> mini recipe here:
>
> 
> d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
> d-i partman-auto/method string lvm
> d-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true
> d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true
> d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true
> d-i partman-auto-lvm/new_vg_name string SBS_PV
> # d-i partman-lvm/vgcreate string SBS_PV
> d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string                   \
>        boot-root::                                     \
>                100 1000 100 ext3                 \
>                        $primary{ }                     \
>                        $bootable{ }                    \
>                        method{ format }                \
>                        format{ }               \
>                        use_filesystem{ }               \
>                        filesystem{ ext3 }              \
>                        mountpoint{ /boot }             \
>                .                                       \
>                                                        \
>                                                        \
>                100 1000 100 ext3                      \
>                        $lvmok{ }                       \
>                        method{ format }                \
>                        format{ }               \
>                        use-filesystem{ }               \
>                        filesystem{ ext3 }              \
>                        mountpoint{ / }                 \
>               .
> 
>
> My desired recipe contains an explicitly declared PV, some more LV with more
> defined stuff and follows all the rules I found in the
> debian-installer:$doc/debian-installer/devel files (which could really need
> some more examples and rules description),
>
> The basic problem is the wrong calculation of the minimum size. I already
> tried it with different priorities to see their effect on the result, but no
> change.

(You don't need the "\" within the recipes)

Can the installer's partitioning algorithm really do that?!

>From "partman-auto-recipe.txt":

6. HOW THE ACTUAL PARTITION SIZES ARE COMPUTED
--

Suppose we have to create N partitions and min[i], max[i] and
priority[i] are the minimal size, the maximal size and the priority of
the partition #i as described in section 1.

Let free_space be the size of the free space to partition.

Then do the following:

for(i=1;i<=N;i++) {
   factor[i] = priority[i] - min[i];
}
ready = FALSE;
while (! ready) {
   minsum = min[1] + min[2] + ... + min[N];
   factsum = factor[1] + factor[2] + ... + factor[N];
   ready = TRUE;
   for(i=1;i<=N;i++) {
  x = min[i] + (free_space - minsum) * factor[i] / factsum;
  if (x > max[i])
 x = max[i];
  if (x != min[i]) {
 ready = FALSE;
 min[i] = x;
  }
   }
}

Then min[i] will be the size of partition #i.


7. APPENDIX
---

On May 25th 2004, it was noted that on i386 systems, the very minimum size of
a Debian installation on a classical (/, /usr, /usr, /home) setup was:
48MB on / (6MB on /boot)
77MB on /usr
17MB on /var
It is thus wise to use minimum values with this consideration in mind.

#261244: 70MB are required for /var
#265290: 1.8GB are not enough for / with desktop


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Re: preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-25 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:49:52AM BST, Thorsten Sperber wrote:
> 100 1000 100 ext3  \
> $lvmok{ }   \
> method{ format }\
> format{ }   \
> use-filesystem{ }   \
> filesystem{ ext3 }  \
> mountpoint{ / } \

You're using 100MB as both the minimum and the maximum size of the "/"
(root) partition. It probably (I'm almost 100% sure) is not enough
space even for a basic installation - read point 7 in the document you
quoted.

> My desired recipe contains an explicitly declared PV, some more LV
> with more defined stuff and follows all the rules I found in the
> debian-installer:$doc/debian-installer/devel files (which could
> really need some more examples and rules description),

In the same document read points 5-6.

> The basic problem is the wrong calculation of the minimum size. I
> already tried it with different priorities to see their effect on
> the result, but no change.

I guess it's not the priority - it's the size.

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Re: Does anyone know how to Compile Mythtv 0.23.1 on current testing with qt 4.7 - SOLVED

2011-10-25 Thread S Scharf
On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 8:50 AM, S Scharf  wrote:

> I recently upgraded my desktop hardware and installed the current testing
> distribution, but by
> myth backend server is still running old-stable. The last debian-multimedia
> release of myth for
> old-stable was 0.23.1 which is incompatible with running the available 0.24
> front end on testing.
>
> I have tried to compile the myth source of 0.23.1 on testing, but it fails
> due to changes in the
> QT library. (Problems with overloaded functions and templates). Does anyone
> know how to
> patch 0.23.1 so it will compile on the current testing (with the current qt
> 4.7 release)?
>
> Thanks
> Stuart
>
>
I finally found the needed changes by referring to the 0.24 build. ( the
main problem was figuring out
which files had the changes, I originally missed one file).

Stuart


Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Raf Czlonka
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:07:32AM BST, Darac Marjal wrote:
> Given the usual naming conventions, I would expect it to be either 
> debian-user-engl...@lists.debian.org or debian-engl...@lists.debian.org
> (I'm not sure why there is debian-user-$LANG and debian-$LANG, but it
> may just be that, for those languages where "user" translates to "user",
> there is debian-user-$LANG, otherwise it's debian-user-$LANG).

All other mailing lists are in English as well, e.g. debian-devel, etc.
Debian is an international project and lingua franca of IT (not only) is
English (US, for what is worth) - even C locale defaults to it.
It's just something you have to live with - if the project's
international and there's no explicit language declaration, chances are
the discussion, support, etc. will be in English.

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preseeding/partman-auto: LVM expert recipe problem

2011-10-25 Thread Thorsten Sperber

Hi,

I have a problem regarding the partman-auto/expert-recipe. I have this 
minimal recipe (very minimal, not really useful at all except to prove 
this bug) and it calculates 220100 MB (and a lot more in my original 
recipe).


: Oct 25 10:25:49 partman-auto: Available disk space (31457) too small 
for expert recipe (220100); skipping


31457 is the ~30GB sized virtual hard disk I use for testing.

I hope this is fixable, since it is part of the stable installer.

mini recipe here:


d-i partman-auto/disk string /dev/sda
d-i partman-auto/method string lvm
d-i partman-auto/purge_lvm_from_device boolean true
d-i partman-lvm/confirm boolean true
d-i partman-lvm/device_remove_lvm boolean true
d-i partman-auto-lvm/new_vg_name string SBS_PV
# d-i partman-lvm/vgcreate string SBS_PV
d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe string   \
boot-root:: \
100 1000 100 ext3 \
$primary{ } \
$bootable{ }\
method{ format }\
format{ }   \
use_filesystem{ }   \
filesystem{ ext3 }  \
mountpoint{ /boot } \
.   \
\
\
100 1000 100 ext3  \
$lvmok{ }   \
method{ format }\
format{ }   \
use-filesystem{ }   \
filesystem{ ext3 }  \
mountpoint{ / } \
   .


My desired recipe contains an explicitly declared PV, some more LV with 
more defined stuff and follows all the rules I found in the 
debian-installer:$doc/debian-installer/devel files (which could really 
need some more examples and rules description),


The basic problem is the wrong calculation of the minimum size. I 
already tried it with different priorities to see their effect on the 
result, but no change.


Thorsten


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RE: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Arno Schuring


> From: mailingl...@darac.org.uk
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> > On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
> > >2011/10/25 Mauro
> > >...
> > 
> > I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here
> > point me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list, please.
> 
> There being no language defined *in the address* of this list, I'd
> expect the occasional international discussion. (I'm aware that
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ says "Support for Debian users who
> speak English" but not everyone visits that page).

Of course, if you need to be pedantic about it, you should also point out that
this list is about written English, not spoken. And I'd hazard a guess that all
discussions on this list are already international.

However, since there is a http://lists.debian.org/debian-italian/ -- it should
be very clear to non-pedants what the intended language of this list is.

> 
> There's very little excuse, however, for discussing Ubuntu here.

lol


Arno

  

Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Luca Cappelletti
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

> On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
>
>> 2011/10/25 Mauro
>> ...
>>
>
> I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here point
> me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list, please.
>
>
Sorry!!!
My fault, really sorry...
I cannot believe!!!
I was aware of that I'm writing into Italian Debian list replying (too
quick!!!) to the first Italian post...
My apologies :(
next time I'll explicit check the reply destination address to avoid
mistakes..

have a nice day

Luca


Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:41:34AM +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:
> >2011/10/25 Mauro
> >...
> 
> I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here
> point me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list, please.

Given the usual naming conventions, I would expect it to be either 
debian-user-engl...@lists.debian.org or debian-engl...@lists.debian.org
(I'm not sure why there is debian-user-$LANG and debian-$LANG, but it
may just be that, for those languages where "user" translates to "user",
there is debian-user-$LANG, otherwise it's debian-user-$LANG).

There being no language defined *in the address* of this list, I'd
expect the occasional international discussion. (I'm aware that
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/ says "Support for Debian users who
speak English" but not everyone visits that page).

There's very little excuse, however, for discussing Ubuntu here.


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Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 25/10/11 11:23, Luca Cappelletti wrote:

2011/10/25 Mauro
...


I appear to have subscribed to the wrong mail list. Can anyone here 
point me at the ENGLISH DEBIAN list, please.



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Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Luca Cappelletti
2011/10/25 Mauro 
...

> A dire il vero ho sempre usato sid.
> Ricordo i primi tempi in cui alle volte dava veramente del filo da
> torcere per farla funzionare da qualche anno invece sid non e' piu'
> cosi' cattiva e non ho mai avuto un problema.
>
>
ah ma certo se già la usi e ne hai confidenza allora sosituisci la parola
wheezy con sid ;)
Per le mie esigenze wheezy è largamente sufficiente quindi rimango dentro
cosi da assicurarmi eventualmente di aprire bug reports in testing per
accellerare il landing a stable.
Comunque rimane che a questo punto puoi lasciar perdere Ubuntu, a mio avviso
ormai è solo un magnete comunitario che attira curiosi ed aiuta alla
diffusione di software libero...
La novità è terminata con la 8.04 da quel momento si poteva fare il merge
con Debian in termini culturali, comunitari e tecnici ed andare avanti
insieme...il resto è fuffaland..è assurod ma il vero valore aggiunto di
tutta questa macchina Ubuntu...sono solo le sue derivate che hanno permesso
di "promuovere" attivamente la presenza di tecnologie alternative desktop
(Xfce, Lxde, Kde, Gnome, e17, ...).
Gli si deve molto dal punto di vista della promozione di tecnologie Debian,
però è un pò troppo fork a mio avviso...non so...non mi convince.
L


Re: Kernel upgraded two or three times since install

2011-10-25 Thread Darac Marjal
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:46:13PM -0500, John Vestrum wrote:
> On 08/10/11 12:36, Mark Panen wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > I noticed my kernel has been upgraded two or three times but i am still
> > sitting on the original:
> > 
> > "uname -r
> > 2.6.32-5-amd64"
> > 
> 
> Sorry for the belated reply, but having recently switched from another distro 
> this bothered me as well. The typical advice to use dpkg/apt-query/aptitude 
> only tells half the story - those tools only know which kernel is installed, 
> not what is running. I finally found what I was looking for in /proc/version.
> 
> $ cat /proc/version
> Linux version 2.6.32-5-amd64 (Debian 2.6.32-38) (b...@decadent.org.uk) (gcc 
> version 4.3.5 (Debian 4.3.5-4) ) #1 SMP Mon Oct 3 03:59:20 UTC 2011
> 
> 
> Based on that I wrote a shell script to tell me if a machine needs a reboot, 
> the heart of which is:
> 
> RUNNINGKERNEL=`awk '{print $5}' /proc/version | tr -d ')'`
> INSTALLEDKERNEL=`dpkg-query --show --showformat='${Version}\n' linux-base`
> if [ "$INSTALLEDKERNEL" != "$RUNNINGKERNEL" ]; then
>   echo "Running kernel (version $RUNNINGKERNEL) not the same as latest 
> installed kernel (version $INSTALLEDKERNEL)."
> fi
> 
> At least this works on amd64 Squeeze.

I'm not sure when the functionality was added (disclaimer: I run Sid,
but have had this for quite a while now), but there is now a
distribution-lead way of telling the user when a reboot is required.
When a package such as linux-base is updated, the postinstall script
touches /var/run/reboot-required and appends its name (i.e.
'linux-base') to /var/run/reboot-required.pkgs.

So, if you have a package such as update-notifier (or even Byobu if you
work headless), these will watch for the presense of
/var/run/reboot-required and let you know that you should reboot soon.

You might want to see if /var/run/reboot-required exists on your system
as this should be a more robust measure of whether you need to reboot
than simply an out of date kernel (For example, I see that DBus also
wants me to reboot).


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Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Mauro
2011/10/25 Luca Cappelletti :
> 2011/10/25 Mauro 
>>
>> Qui lo usate in molti vero?
>> Mi hanno dato un nuovo portatile che usero' per sviluppo ecc. e non so
>> se metterci sid o ubuntu.
>> Che mi suggerite?
>>
>
> Installa tranquillamente Wheezy (assicurati nei repo che sia wheezy e non
> testing cosi atterri direttamente nella prossima stable senza rimanere nella
> rolling).
> Funziona a meraviglia e da grandi soddisfazioni.
> Ubuntu funziona...ma anche no, con wheezy sei aggiornato ed in una botte di
> ferro.
> Provare per credere :)

A dire il vero ho sempre usato sid.
Ricordo i primi tempi in cui alle volte dava veramente del filo da
torcere per farla funzionare da qualche anno invece sid non e' piu'
cosi' cattiva e non ho mai avuto un problema.

> L
>


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Re: ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Luca Cappelletti
2011/10/25 Mauro 

> Qui lo usate in molti vero?
> Mi hanno dato un nuovo portatile che usero' per sviluppo ecc. e non so
> se metterci sid o ubuntu.
> Che mi suggerite?
>
>
Installa tranquillamente Wheezy (assicurati nei repo che sia wheezy e non
testing cosi atterri direttamente nella prossima stable senza rimanere nella
rolling).
Funziona a meraviglia e da grandi soddisfazioni.
Ubuntu funziona...ma anche no, con wheezy sei aggiornato ed in una botte di
ferro.
Provare per credere :)
L


ubuntu.

2011-10-25 Thread Mauro
Qui lo usate in molti vero?
Mi hanno dato un nuovo portatile che usero' per sviluppo ecc. e non so
se metterci sid o ubuntu.
Che mi suggerite?


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