Re: Dual monitor setup
> > Is Debian using nouveau, how to check what driver is being used? > > You can check /var/log/Xorg.0.log > > ok also I the issue resolved itself, I read on a forum thread that by turning off the power completely will reset the monitor. I think this issue was triggered by using the monitor on two different systems alternatively. I think one of the laptops had it running at 75Hz Any way I am glad that it's resolved. -- Kind regards, Yudi
Re: Broken packages............
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:01:00 -0500 "Wu-Kung Sun sunwuk...@gmail.com"
suggested this:
>On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:39 PM, Charlie
>wrote:
>>
>> Debian Testing - 3.0.0-1-686-pae
>>
>> When attempting to install xvidcap with aptitude
>>
>> Receive this error:
>>
>> The following NEW packages will be installed:
>> xvidcap{b}
>> 0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not
>> upgraded. Need to get 1,227 kB of archives. After unpacking 2,855 kB
>> will be used. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>> xvidcap: Depends: libavdevice52 (>= 5:0.6.1+svn20110308) but
>> 5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2 is installed. The following actions will
>> resolve these dependencies:
>>
>> Keep the following packages at their current version:
>> 1) xvidcap [Not Installed]
>>
>> Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
>>
>> So I attempt the install it through synaptic and get this:
>>
>> Could not apply changes!
>> Fix broken packages first.
>>
>> So try with synaptic to fix the broken packages and get this:
>>
>> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
>> caused by held packages.
>> E: Unable to correct dependencies
>> E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
>> caused by held packages.
>> E: Unable to correct dependencies
>>
>> Using debsums receive this:
>>
>> ~# debsums --changed
>> debsums: no md5sums for binutils
>> debsums: no md5sums for default-jre
>> debsums: no md5sums for gcj-4.6-jre
>> debsums: no md5sums for gcj-jre
>> debsums: no md5sums for gcj-jre-headless
>> debsums: no md5sums for libaudio2
>> debsums: no md5sums for mawk
>>
>> So just in case, successfully reinstall all these with aptitude.
>>
>> Nothing changes, still can't install xvidcap
>>
>> My question is: where would the system be holding packages - even
>> though I haven't held any ever that I know of? But maybe a system
>> application has held some and if so, where?
>>
>> Or doesd this just refer to the package version of libavdevice52
>> which is not installed?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>> Charlie
>You have libavdevice52 installed and held at version
>5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2 which is too old.
>See your held packages with "aptitude search ~ahold". Try removing
>your hold with "aptitude unhold libavdevice52" and then try
>reinstalling xvidcap.
>
>--
>swk
Thank you SWK.
Both those commands do nothing and purging libavdevice52 didn't give me
the version I need, and now I'm unable to install even it again? I get
this error message from synaptic:
libavcodec52:
Depends: libavutil50 (<4:0.6.2-99) but 5:0.7.1-0.1 is to be installed
or libavutil-extra-50 (<4:0.6.2-99) but it is not installable
This from aptitude:
~# aptitude install libavcodec52
The following NEW packages will be installed:
libavcodec52{b}
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 4,629 kB of archives. After unpacking 10.4 MB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
libavcodec52: Depends: libavutil50 (< 4:0.6.2-99) but 5:0.7.1-0.1 is
installed. or libavutil-extra-50 (< 4:0.6.2-99) which is a virtual
package. Depends: libx264-116 but it is not going to be installed.
The following actions will resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) libavcodec52 [Not Installed]
Then tried this:
~# aptitude install libavutil-extra-50
No candidate version found for libavutil-extra-50
No candidate version found for libavutil-extra-50
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
Then tried this:
~# aptitude install libavutil50
No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed.
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used.
No joy I'm afraid.
Charlie
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pgfortran help
Hello everyone, I'm currently in the middle of some cuda fortran coding and I really need a bit of help. First of all, a brief description: compiling cuda fortran code (usually *.cuf) requires the use of the proprietary compiler from the portland group (pgfortran). I've got access to such a compiler on a computer running ubuntu 10.04 and recently tried to install it with some success on Debian after some hacking. Specifically, I made a couple of symbolic links to help the gnu linker find crt1.o, crti.o and maybe one more crt*, as the location of said files wasn't properly set. (something to do with debian-specific gcc library file paths?) Now, when I try to compile code using pgfortran, the compiler fails as it requires "size_t" to be defined.. and I'm not really well versed on C or the location of it's libraries. Any ideas that could help? On a different note, I'd usually used the intel fortran compiler and I find it *much* faster for regular serial (non-cuda) code. Is it possible to link two object files produced by different compilers? Runtime could be much faster by cross-linking. In any case, I can ssh to work and run everything there ok. So, getting the compiler running on debian isn't my biggest wish. Many thanks. -- Daniel Jiménez -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cakuhbggm6gl0izfydirvgprdk6qbhqm0nxrmtyv+pmyxf+6...@mail.gmail.com
Broken packages............
Debian Testing - 3.0.0-1-686-pae
When attempting to install xvidcap with aptitude
Receive this error:
The following NEW packages will be installed:
xvidcap{b}
0 packages upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
Need to get 1,227 kB of archives. After unpacking 2,855 kB will be used.
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
xvidcap: Depends: libavdevice52 (>= 5:0.6.1+svn20110308) but
5:0.6.1+svn20101128-0.2 is installed. The following actions will
resolve these dependencies:
Keep the following packages at their current version:
1) xvidcap [Not Installed]
Accept this solution? [Y/n/q/?]
So I attempt the install it through synaptic and get this:
Could not apply changes!
Fix broken packages first.
So try with synaptic to fix the broken packages and get this:
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies
E: Error, pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be
caused by held packages.
E: Unable to correct dependencies
Using debsums receive this:
~# debsums --changed
debsums: no md5sums for binutils
debsums: no md5sums for default-jre
debsums: no md5sums for gcj-4.6-jre
debsums: no md5sums for gcj-jre
debsums: no md5sums for gcj-jre-headless
debsums: no md5sums for libaudio2
debsums: no md5sums for mawk
So just in case, successfully reinstall all these with aptitude.
Nothing changes, still can't install xvidcap
My question is: where would the system be holding packages - even
though I haven't held any ever that I know of? But maybe a system
application has held some and if so, where?
Or doesd this just refer to the package version of libavdevice52 which
is not installed?
Thanks in advance,
Charlie
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Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 4:58 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:59:38 -0400, Burhan Hanoglu wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: >>> I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me regarding the following: "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" >>> >>> Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here >>> will blindly point you to Debian ;-P >> >> Not really; > > "Not really" what? "Blindly"? There was an emoticon placed there, dude :-) Okay okay, I missed that, fine...:( > >> Debian is (at least) one of the best GNU/Linux distributions to use if >> you want to experience the excitement of discovering the real Linux >> /Unix stuff behind the GUI. Otherwise; Debian again is one of the best >> distros considering stability and freedom. > > I'm not sure that "stability" and "freedom" were inside the "novice" part I'm not sure what you mean here... > but anyway, openSUSE is also stable (rock solid) and cares about your > freedom ;-) I have no objection to any other distribution in this matter; that's why I said "...(at least) one of the best GNU/Linux distributions...". But don't forget that OpenSuse is a testing environment for SLES, same way Fedora is for RHEL. Well; this doesn't mean they are bad distros, but a fact is still a fact:) Sincerely, Burhan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabser8wo9ror2duw2rb0a42z9kwmvmq-_a0u-z7vsqwbzsy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player
Harry Putnam wrote: > Recommendation for National Public Radio player > ... > I wanted to make sure any suggestions where software that can actually > be made to connect to NPR. The web page? Or something specifically different from their web page? > I don't necessarily mean something in debian repos. Just what ever > your own experience can vouch for as a player capable of gettting > internet NPR. I will start off by listing what does NOT work with it. It is all about the Flash content. I am using Iceweasel (Firefox) 7.0 in Sid with the gnash (GNU flash) plugin on a 64-bit amd64 desktop. None of the Flash content will play using the latest gnash. This includes the online streaming audio feed and all of their Listen links which all use the flash player plugin. Their audio is available for download as mp3 format and that plays fine. Using Stable Squeeze with Iceweasel (Firefox) 7.0 packaged for Debian from http://mozilla.debian.net/ and the 32-bit nonfree Adobe Flash plugin works fine and plays the audio and videos without problem. Everything appears perfectly and I have no problems of any kind. I mostly listen to NPR by computer not from the www.npr.org site but by streaming from one of a couple of local radio stations using mplayer. I do this because when I am not at the computer I can hear those stations directly by broadcast radio. In any case they make the content available more easily than the upstream site. You might investigate your local public radio stations and see if you can access their site for streaming more easily too. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player
Walter Hurry writes: > National? What nation? Don't bother to answer; I can guess, since you > did not mention one. How many nations have an institution named National Public Radio? (note the caps: it's a name, not a description.) -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/871utz5ore@thumper.dhh.gt.org
[HS] Re: new to pacemaker and heartbeat on debian...getting error..
Le Wednesday 26 October 2011 23:17:09 Joey L, vous avez écrit : > Hi -- new updates and questions :) Hi ! This is not really a Debian discussion anymore. I'm not suscribed to a linux-ha/pacemaker mailing list, so we can continue here, but I flag it [HS] :-) > 1. got corosync to work - do not know how - uninstalled heartbeat and > installed corosync. !!! > 2. I created ip_addres2 resource -- looks good i can migrate it easily > - but the issue is when the other node gets unplugged - it does not > migrate or move to the node that is up by itself - i played with the > settings and googled the hell out of it - no luck ? what is the magic > setting ? Perhaps you have configured an INFINITY location constraint to one node ? > 3. i run the mc on the other node as well - but it looks like it > creates another cluster ?? is there a trick to running it on another > node ? When you run the MC against the first node, you create a cluster (it's just a client side notion), then you add the nodes. The console connects then to both nodes via ssh. You don't need to run it again against the other node... > 4. i am trying to create mysql and apache in a group and making it > dependent on the ipaddress2 resource, is that the way to go ? or > create seperate resources dependent on ip_address2 ?? If you want to be able to run MySQL and apache on different nodes, you should not group them. I'd better do : - an apache group containing : - an IP address resource - an apache resource - a MySQL group containing : - an IP address resource - either a filesystem resource on DRBD or a Mysql resource in master/slave mode (cannot be in group) - a mysql resource (if not in master/slave mode) ... After that, you can apply some location constraints to groups to balance the load accross the nodes. > 5. I turned off STONITH - because i do not have any devices that > support it - do i have to turn off fencing options as well? Yes fencing without a stonith device is not really possible. Perhaps it is the cause of your IP resource not migrating. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:47:33 -0500 Harry Putnam wrote: > Sorry to ask the question in such an off the wall manner. > > Recommendation for National Public Radio player > > But in briefly googling for this topic I started to see that not all > players can get all streams. > > I wanted to make sure any suggestions where software that can actually > be made to connect to NPR. > > I don't necessarily mean something in debian repos. Just what ever > your own experience can vouch for as a player capable of gettting > internet NPR. Iceweasel with Adobe Flash plugin works fine here. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026191823.4adf17a02b02bad2bd624...@gmail.com
Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player
On Wednesday 26 October 2011 13:47:33 Harry Putnam wrote: > Sorry to ask the question in such an off the wall manner. > > Recommendation for National Public Radio player > > But in briefly googling for this topic I started to see that not all > players can get all streams. > > I wanted to make sure any suggestions where software that can actually > be made to connect to NPR. > > I don't necessarily mean something in debian repos. Just what ever > your own experience can vouch for as a player capable of gettting > internet NPR. Looks like there are three streaming options from NPR, 1. NPR media player , needs flash, use a browser 2. MP3 stream, lots of player apps there. 3. Windows Media Player ? I listen to NPR using Iceweasel & flash in stable. -- Peace, Greg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110261414.23857.gomadtr...@gci.net
problem mounting usb thumb drive
I have a fresh install of xfce on wheezy. The machine is an eracks desktop with an amd phenom II cpu, 8 Gb ram. I have previously run roughly the same configuration of xfce before, but there were large element of gnome also on the machine. Being of feeble mind and forgetting all the other times I had disturbed sleeping dogs, I did the fresh install thing. Everything is fine, I noticed that gdm had been replaced by xdm. My problem: usb thumb drive does not mount automatically. I can su and mount it from the command line. I checked and I am a member of the plugdev group. The last line of mtab reads: /dev/sdb1 /media/usb0 vfat rw,noexec,nodev,sync,noatime,nodiratime 0 0 After mounting the drive by hand, I noticed that the /media directory has had usb0 usb1 etc. added to it and it is possible to mount the drive with a mouse, but as a user it is read only (not what mtab says?) Before I go off rooting about as root and causing untold damage, I'm asking for some help. (I did send in an installation report with the installation logs, etc. - perhaps I will get some help there.) John. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026185036.43e29...@erica.song
Re: Just a simple query
On Wednesday 26 October 2011 18:25:40 Linux Tyro wrote: > Please suggest me regarding > the following: > > "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" Personally, I would say Debian every time, but it is horses for courses. I started on SuSE. I stuck it for a while, and then could take it no longer. I actually loathed YaST (the package manager). I then, more recently, used it for my granddaughter's laptop. I still dislike it. I moved on to Libranet, a super distro, based on Debian. It actually used Debian Sarge repositories (software "warehouses".) So I simply went on using it until Sarge became obsolete. The I moved onto Debian proper. That was some years ago. I still love it and find it simple to run - until I try to do something obscure. ;-) Contrary to what you will hear, Debian is now very simple to install, if oyu just want to plug and play. you can use the defaults all teh way to a functioning distro. You then have the choice of stopping tehre, or moving on. Debian will be great for either. I am on the Debian list because I use - and love - Debian, not on Debian because I use the list. You would get different answers on the SuSE list. As I said, it is horses for courses. We are all different and we like different things! HTH Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110262345.17583.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Recommendation for National Public Radio player
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:47:33 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote: > Recommendation for National Public Radio player National? What nation? Don't bother to answer; I can guess, since you did not mention one. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j8a26f$asr$1...@dough.gmane.org
Network Manager in Debian and modem with non-standard init strings
Hi, I'm using a modem, which after the connection is broken requires non-standard initialization. E.g. I should force deregistration and reregistration by sending AT+COPS=2 and AT+COPS=1 or if it doesn't help I have to reset it completely by sending: AT+FUNC=4 and AT+FUNC=1,1 The above works with standard pon/poff tools (with chatscripts) or with wvdial. However I'd like to integrate this modem with Network Manager environment. Unfortunately I can't find any config files in which I could define such init strings... Is it possible to customize NM to work with such a modem? -- TIA & Regards, Wojtek -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ea87f90.3040...@elektron.elka.pw.edu.pl
Recommendation for National Public Radio player
Sorry to ask the question in such an off the wall manner. Recommendation for National Public Radio player But in briefly googling for this topic I started to see that not all players can get all streams. I wanted to make sure any suggestions where software that can actually be made to connect to NPR. I don't necessarily mean something in debian repos. Just what ever your own experience can vouch for as a player capable of gettting internet NPR. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8739efjuh6@newsguy.com
(solved) Re: GRUB2 in edit mode
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 20:13:00 +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > Am Samstag, 22. Oktober 2011 schrieb Camaleón: >> I am trying to get a more paused bootup messages by appending >> "boot_delay=1000" to the kernel line in GRUB2 edit mode (I'm adding >> this at the "linux" line, after "ro quiet"), but when I press F10 to >> continue with the boot sequence it hangs at: > > Its one second per line if milliseconds are correct, but since you > looked it up, I bet it is. > > Then you have "quiet". Maybe it counts those quiet messages as well? > There might be many. It does not make sense that the kernel issues a > printk for these quiet message and then printk will use the delay for > these, but maybe thats the bug. > > What happens when you remove quiet and use boot_delay=1000? Maybe thats > worth a try. Very good tip, although I think "quiet" should not be interfering at all (it only makes the kernel logging be less verbose) this is worth for trying, of course, hold on... Okay, it seems hanging again with different text lines but booting is stopped: *** Booting a command list Loading Linux 3.0.0-1-686-pae ... Loading initial ramdisk ... Decompressing Linux... Parsing ELF... done. Booting the kernel. *** And here stays forever. (seven minutes later) Mmm, wait, wait... it is loading now, slowly -for the kernel messages part as it has to be- but it loads. Hey, thanks much! That could mean that the "quiet" part is just preventing me to see the kernel messages despite the system is indeed booting and it stays with the black screen until it finishes the kernel logging... let's try it now with "quiet boot_delay=1000": (boot started at 22:51) (22:57 → black screen) (23:03 → black screen) (23:11 → non-kernel messages start appearing) Mmm, perfect. So "quiet" and "boot_delay" cannot be (now, since always? :-?) put together as they seem to override each other somehow. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.21.29...@gmail.com
Re: new to pacemaker and heartbeat on debian...getting error..
Hi -- new updates and questions :) 1. got corosync to work - do not know how - uninstalled heartbeat and installed corosync. !!! 2. I created ip_addres2 resource -- looks good i can migrate it easily - but the issue is when the other node gets unplugged - it does not migrate or move to the node that is up by itself - i played with the settings and googled the hell out of it - no luck ? what is the magic setting ? 3. i run the mc on the other node as well - but it looks like it creates another cluster ?? is there a trick to running it on another node ? 4. i am trying to create mysql and apache in a group and making it dependent on the ipaddress2 resource, is that the way to go ? or create seperate resources dependent on ip_address2 ?? 5. I turned off STONITH - because i do not have any devices that support it - do i have to turn off fencing options as well? thanks -mjh On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 3:08 PM, Gilles Mocellin wrote: > Le Wednesday 26 October 2011 06:06:57 Joey L, vous avez écrit : >> Hey Gilles - I got it to somewhat work > > Yeah ! > >> I tried it with heartbeat under debian and I actually got to see the >> machines online and talking to each other!!! >> What a struggle - but do see the beauty of mc --- but i got it to work >> with heartbeat and not pacemaker/corosync. >> Is there a down side to this ? > > If it's working, it's good ! > heratbeat will be phased out in futur release in favor of corosync, but you > have some time. > >> i was looking to failover services such as dns,ip,apache,mysql,asterisk,nfs >> ?? i have been googling some sites to find out more about the >> configuration and how to make it work for me. >> anything you can point me to would be helpful. > > First, look at OCF resource already available here : > /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/ > You can browse resource agents in drbd-mc. > > I see apache, IPaddr(2), mysql, nfsserver. > For dns (bind ?) and asterisk, if their init script is LSB compliant (supports > start, stop and status), you can use them directly as a resource. > >> i will go back over your mails in the morning - it is midnight..and >> just exhausted. >> thanks for your help. > > No problem. > [...] > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cak3er7uhtv1fck74236i_y-gzemv9adbupfeg+ngej_bfqf...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:40:00 -0300, francis picabia wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: >> >>> I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very >>> less. Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me >>> regarding the following: >>> >>> "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" >> >> Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here >> will blindly point you to Debian ;-P > > Blindly or not blindly... He, I should have choosen another term :-) > The problem with most "reviews" is they base it on a fresh install and > Desktop set up. > > Living with a distro is often far different than a fresh install. (...) Sure, but when you are a beginner that sort of things are not the most important ones. You start thinking more deeply in what a distribution can provide once you have a little more background with linux, which can be one year or two later... Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.21.03...@gmail.com
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:59:38 -0400, Burhan Hanoglu wrote: > On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: >> >>> I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very >>> less. Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me >>> regarding the following: >>> >>> "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" >> >> Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here >> will blindly point you to Debian ;-P > > Not really; "Not really" what? "Blindly"? There was an emoticon placed there, dude :-) > Debian is (at least) one of the best GNU/Linux distributions to use if > you want to experience the excitement of discovering the real Linux > /Unix stuff behind the GUI. Otherwise; Debian again is one of the best > distros considering stability and freedom. I'm not sure that "stability" and "freedom" were inside the "novice" part but anyway, openSUSE is also stable (rock solid) and cares about your freedom ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.20.58...@gmail.com
Re: Debian dial in server -web access under squeeze
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 12:45:50PM -0700, Peter oliver wrote: > > trying to create a dial in box from modem to Ethernet (LAN DSL) > using IBM netvista P4 (2.26c 512mb) with external us robotics 56k modem on > com2 > System is using new Squeeze install (nuked the XP install on the system)- > command line no gui-- > need to connect a windows box using ppp to this server to use one of our > extra IP address assignments (ISP provider simplybits) > > Server box will access the net thru eth0 (apt-get update/install works fine) > > windows machine can call and log in, can ping local address on box and access > its Apache placeholder page > I do not appear to be getting routing, or DNS services - IE explorer times > out/ incorrect address, cannot ping external ip Sounds like you need to make sure that IP forwarding is enabled, and either do manual routes, or, more likely, masquerading. Those key words will get you what you want. -dsr- -- http://tao.merseine.nu/~dsr/eula.html is hereby incorporated by reference. You can't fight for freedom by taking away rights. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026195137.gw1...@tao.merseine.nu
Debian dial in server -web access under squeeze
trying to create a dial in box from modem to Ethernet (LAN DSL) using IBM netvista P4 (2.26c 512mb) with external us robotics 56k modem on com2 System is using new Squeeze install (nuked the XP install on the system)- command line no gui-- need to connect a windows box using ppp to this server to use one of our extra IP address assignments (ISP provider simplybits) Server box will access the net thru eth0 (apt-get update/install works fine) windows machine can call and log in, can ping local address on box and access its Apache placeholder page I do not appear to be getting routing, or DNS services - IE explorer times out/ incorrect address, cannot ping external ip Most of the documentation on this is outdated / and or depreciated on doing this. (the last time I tried this was in DOS 25 years ago). And was not my idea just someone too cheap to buy an ISP service with enough pull at work to wrangle me into it.. and have allready spent a couple of days fussing with it. also setting like the /etc/ppp/options file ie MS-DNS, thanks Peter
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed 26 Oct 2011 at 18:38:33 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Brian wrote: > > > > iw does not integrate with ifupdown yet. Please see the README.Debian > > for the iw package. > Its a shame that 3 years (its dates 30th Oct 2008) later nothing > has moved. I'd have a shot at using the pre-up/post-up options provided by ifupdown. Something like 'pre-up iw [options] command' could be fruitful. It would be interesting to know if it came to anything. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026191559.GB10133@desktop
Re: new to pacemaker and heartbeat on debian...getting error..
Le Wednesday 26 October 2011 06:06:57 Joey L, vous avez écrit : > Hey Gilles - I got it to somewhat work Yeah ! > I tried it with heartbeat under debian and I actually got to see the > machines online and talking to each other!!! > What a struggle - but do see the beauty of mc --- but i got it to work > with heartbeat and not pacemaker/corosync. > Is there a down side to this ? If it's working, it's good ! heratbeat will be phased out in futur release in favor of corosync, but you have some time. > i was looking to failover services such as dns,ip,apache,mysql,asterisk,nfs > ?? i have been googling some sites to find out more about the > configuration and how to make it work for me. > anything you can point me to would be helpful. First, look at OCF resource already available here : /usr/lib/ocf/resource.d/heartbeat/ You can browse resource agents in drbd-mc. I see apache, IPaddr(2), mysql, nfsserver. For dns (bind ?) and asterisk, if their init script is LSB compliant (supports start, stop and status), you can use them directly as a resource. > i will go back over your mails in the morning - it is midnight..and > just exhausted. > thanks for your help. No problem. [...] signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: > >> I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. >> Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me >> regarding the following: >> >> "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" > > Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here > will blindly point you to Debian ;-P Blindly or not blindly... The problem with most "reviews" is they base it on a fresh install and Desktop set up. Living with a distro is often far different than a fresh install. Ask yourself two big questions: 1. what are you going to do with this Linux OS - it is often more than running the OS itself, or else anything would do 2. how do you hope to maintain this Linux OS - will you buy a new system every time you need to do a major upgrade on the OS? If your answers point to things like running amavisd-new as part of an anti-spam solution, then you will want the breadth of packages found in Debian and not found in the likes of Redhat. If your answers point to the desire to install once and upgrade on top of that installation, then you will want the well tested capability of Debian to handle this process. If you don't plan to use it in any sort of production purpose (e.g. providing corporate web or email services), and you just want to tinker, then you should not decide on an OS, but just play with all of the mature Linux distribution releases. You'll find your own opinions and your Linux home that way. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ca+akb6eqaif2q0m7ajmdg_5rmjdrgp1sdx04ppbkwnfwmob...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian 4.0
On Wed, 2011-10-26 at 11:55 +0530, she...@rri.res.in wrote: > Hi, Hello, > > > This is Sheela.I want to install Debian 4.0 on i686 machine as this is > the only supported platform for installing driver for my pci board. >Is it available for downloading,if so please send me the link. > Yes, old images should still be available, see [1] for more information and a link as to where to get them. However I find it difficult to believe that a more recent release wouldn't work for you. What kind of pci board are you talking about? > [...] > > Kind regards, Steven [1] http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#old signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: GRUB2 in edit mode
Am Samstag, 22. Oktober 2011 schrieb Camaleón: > Hello, Hi Camaleón, > I am trying to get a more paused bootup messages by appending > "boot_delay=1000" to the kernel line in GRUB2 edit mode (I'm adding > this at the "linux" line, after "ro quiet"), but when I press F10 to > continue with the boot sequence it hangs at: Its one second per line if milliseconds are correct, but since you looked it up, I bet it is. Then you have "quiet". Maybe it counts those quiet messages as well? There might be many. It does not make sense that the kernel issues a printk for these quiet message and then printk will use the delay for these, but maybe thats the bug. What happens when you remove quiet and use boot_delay=1000? Maybe thats worth a try. Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110262013.00870.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: > >> I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. >> Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me >> regarding the following: >> >> "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" > > Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here > will blindly point you to Debian ;-P Not really; Debian is (at least) one of the best GNU/Linux distributions to use if you want to experience the excitement of discovering the real Linux/Unix stuff behind the GUI. Otherwise; Debian again is one of the best distros considering stability and freedom. Sincerely, Burhan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabser8xlkbhbwbwf1pogfnd9zhda5_ear-knfwvj3dhto95...@mail.gmail.com
Choosing a distribution (was: Just a simple query)
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: > I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. > Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me > regarding the following: > > "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" Well, being this a Debian mailing list, my bet is that most people here will blindly point you to Debian ;-P > I am very beginner, however, I do have used Linux (only installed and > net surfed in it) but never learned simply because I didn't get the > time. Please let me know regarding and once selected I would be with > that distro to learn that (no matter how much time I need). If you don't have any specific needing nor requirements, my advice is that you test both from their respective LiveCD versions and then decide with what to go. I'd say openSUSE has one of the best KDE implementations you will find nowadays but if you don't even know what KDE is then you can omit the last paragraph ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.17.43...@gmail.com
Re: Just a simple query
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 22:55:40 +0530, Linux Tyro wrote: > Hi, > > I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. > Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me > regarding the following: > > "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" > > I am very beginner, however, I do have used Linux (only installed and > net surfed in it) but never learned simply because I didn't get the > time. Please let me know regarding and once selected I would be with > that distro to learn that (no matter how much time I need). I may get flamed for this (we are on a Debian list after all), but both are IMHO quite straightforward and simple to use for virtually all mainstream tasks, provided one reads and follows the instructions on the side of the tin. Leaving aside technical considerations however, personally I would not consider SUSE because of the Novell (hence Micro$oft indirectly) connection. But that is just my preference. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/j89gjm$s2m$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Brian wrote: > On Tue 25 Oct 2011 at 17:30:53 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx > > commands which get converted into iwconfig commands. iwconfig > > is now deprecated for many wireless cards, in favour of iw. > > > > Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for > > iw? > > iw does not integrate with ifupdown yet. Please see the README.Debian > for the iw package. Its a shame that 3 years (its dates 30th Oct 2008) later nothing has moved. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110261838.34186.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Just a simple query
Hi, I am beginner in Linux and do another job. But I use computer very less. Just a simple doubts regarding the selection. Please suggest me regarding the following: "Debian vs openSUSE for a novice" I am very beginner, however, I do have used Linux (only installed and net surfed in it) but never learned simply because I didn't get the time. Please let me know regarding and once selected I would be with that distro to learn that (no matter how much time I need). Thx.
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Tue 25 Oct 2011 at 17:30:53 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx > commands which get converted into iwconfig commands. iwconfig > is now deprecated for many wireless cards, in favour of iw. > > Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for > iw? iw does not integrate with ifupdown yet. Please see the README.Debian for the iw package. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026165041.GA10133@desktop
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:19:58 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:45:57 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: (...) >> > I think you may be confusing 'ifconfig / iwconfig' and ifupdown. The >> > former are *nix standard tools; the latter is a Debian-specific >> > package that contains the utilities ifup / ifdown, which work with >> > the file /etc/network/interfaces to manipulate network interfaces. >> > IIUC, this is a higher level interface which calls ifconfig / >> > iwconfig / wpa_supplicant / dhclient and other lower level utilities >> > to do the actual work. >> >> I have not mentioned "ifupdown" but "ifup" :-) > > Ifup is a command from the ifupdown package. Yes. And it's also the name of the way for setting up the network parameters in openSUSE. Sorry if that has confused you. >> And I've been calling "ifup" to the old method for setting up the >> networking interfaces that I have been using years ago. "Ifup" was the >> name I used in openSUSE for ifconfig tools (not just a binary file), so >> the naming confusion problem can come from here. > > I know nothing about openSUSE. This is a Debian list, and 'ifup' in this > context refers to a Debian specific script from the ifupdown package. It's okay, I thought "ifup" was a common way for designating the old method for configuring the networking stuff in contrast to the new Network Manager option. Maybe that was an openSUSE specific denomination, I beg your perdon for having an openSUSE past ;-) > And your comments are not coherent, anyway. You expressed an expectation > that the kernel people document using 'ifup' with 'iw'. But 'iw' itself > is documented quite nicely - and the only thing not documented is how to > use it with 'ifupdown', which, as I've explained, is not their > responsibility. No, that's not what I said. Please, re-read the whole thread and specially message ID "". >> >> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be >> >> docummented so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, >> >> don't you think? >> > >> > iw is documented quite nicely: >> > >> > http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw >> >> Yes, I know... I mentioned that page in the very first of my posts to >> this thread ;-) > > Okay - so what are you complaining is not documented? Me? No sir... you must have misread the thread. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.16.56...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 17:17:38 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> Let me ask you again... what specific setup configuration options are >> you missing from the current available tools to setting up your >> wireless adapters in Debian? > It is possible to hand code, using the explicit iw commands, all the > things I want to do, BUT it is long winded, difficult to read, and if > for instance I change an interface name (say wlan0 to wlan1) I have to > change all the references in the commands, and Sods Law says I will miss > one. AFAICT, there is the option for using static names to define the network interfaces, by means of udev rules, so you don't have to depend on the "wlan0" or "wlanx" naming. > The wireless_XXX aliases provide a shorthand and also hide things like > making sure the right interface is passed to the right command. I am > looking for an equivalient which allows me to use the new facilities in > the iw command (such as configuring mesh networks) which can not be > encoded using either iwconfig or wireless_XXX. I still don't get the point for your request :-) You want to use "wireless_XXX" and you can use them, so why are you worried about? I suppose at the time these tools are not available anymore there will be a convenient replacement. And now you say you are looking for an "equivalent" option for something that currently cannot be done with the wireless-tools utilities. Then you're not looking for an "equivalent" but for a way to do "something" with "iw" tools. It's okay but that's not what I understood for your first post... > Its not that it can not be done, it is that the "Debian Way(TM)" seems > to be to use these aliases (and the wireless_XXX one is not the only > one) and there is no alias (that I can find) that uses iw and therefore > enables the facilities that I am trying to define. Mmm, I don't want to be stubborn but a concrete example will help a lot to find a way to do what you want to get ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.16.36...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 15:45:57 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:16:00 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:46:17 + (UTC) Camaleón > > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote: > >> > >> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 + (UTC) Camaleón > >> > wrote: > >> > > >> >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: ... > >> >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" > >> >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using > >> >> "ifup" method ;-) > >> > > >> > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly > >> > responsible for documenting it. > >> > >> Are you sure? :-) > >> > >> I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces > >> (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) > >> and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, > >> I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance. > > > > I think you may be confusing 'ifconfig / iwconfig' and ifupdown. The > > former are *nix standard tools; the latter is a Debian-specific package > > that contains the utilities ifup / ifdown, which work with the file > > /etc/network/interfaces to manipulate network interfaces. IIUC, this is > > a higher level interface which calls ifconfig / iwconfig / > > wpa_supplicant / dhclient and other lower level utilities to do the > > actual work. > > I have not mentioned "ifupdown" but "ifup" :-) Ifup is a command from the ifupdown package. > And I've been calling "ifup" to the old method for setting up the > networking interfaces that I have been using years ago. "Ifup" was the > name I used in openSUSE for ifconfig tools (not just a binary file), so > the naming confusion problem can come from here. I know nothing about openSUSE. This is a Debian list, and 'ifup' in this context refers to a Debian specific script from the ifupdown package. And your comments are not coherent, anyway. You expressed an expectation that the kernel people document using 'ifup' with 'iw'. But 'iw' itself is documented quite nicely - and the only thing not documented is how to use it with 'ifupdown', which, as I've explained, is not their responsibility. > >> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented > >> so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you > >> think? > > > > iw is documented quite nicely: > > > > http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw > > Yes, I know... I mentioned that page in the very first of my posts to > this thread ;-) Okay - so what are you complaining is not documented? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026121958.b55a14b38ac2c42d74eb2...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:18:20 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > (...) > > >> > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly > >> > responsible for documenting it. > >> > >> Are you sure? :-) > >> > >> I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces > > > > I am talking about Wireless interfaces, NOT ethernet ones. > > Yes, but I was not replying to you ;-) > > >> (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) > >> and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, > >> I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance. > >> > >> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented > >> so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you > >> think? > > > > iw is very well documented, and it is available on Debian (has been for > > years). Its like the difference between ifconfig and ip, ifconfig is > > now deprecated (still exists but you should use the new one) and ip > > which gives all the new facilities. The same applies to iwconfig (the > > old one) and the newer iw. > > Let me ask you again... what specific setup configuration options are you > missing from the current available tools to setting up your wireless > adapters in Debian? It is possible to hand code, using the explicit iw commands, all the things I want to do, BUT it is long winded, difficult to read, and if for instance I change an interface name (say wlan0 to wlan1) I have to change all the references in the commands, and Sods Law says I will miss one. The wireless_XXX aliases provide a shorthand and also hide things like making sure the right interface is passed to the right command. I am looking for an equivalient which allows me to use the new facilities in the iw command (such as configuring mesh networks) which can not be encoded using either iwconfig or wireless_XXX. Its not that it can not be done, it is that the "Debian Way(TM)" seems to be to use these aliases (and the wireless_XXX one is not the only one) and there is no alias (that I can find) that uses iw and therefore enables the facilities that I am trying to define. David > > Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110261717.38949.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Which repository
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:49:18 -0400, Marc Auslander wrote: > I'm probably missing something obvious but ... Is there a way to find > out which repository an installed package came from? The various show > commands list the path inside the repository, but not the repository > itself. Does "dpkg -s " help? Or you mean the "URI" of the repository? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.16.14...@gmail.com
Re: Which repository
On Wed, Oct 26, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Marc Auslander wrote: > > I'm probably missing something obvious but ... Is there a way to find > out which repository an installed package came from? The various show > commands list the path inside the repository, but not the repository itself. apt-cache policy -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=SwF1kZb_MBNVuwksfgfibuwKQ44drb5EwjmBpJwARxª@mail.gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 16:18:20 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly >> > responsible for documenting it. >> >> Are you sure? :-) >> >> I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces > I am talking about Wireless interfaces, NOT ethernet ones. Yes, but I was not replying to you ;-) >> (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) >> and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, >> I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance. >> >> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented >> so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you >> think? > iw is very well documented, and it is available on Debian (has been for > years). Its like the difference between ifconfig and ip, ifconfig is > now deprecated (still exists but you should use the new one) and ip > which gives all the new facilities. The same applies to iwconfig (the > old one) and the newer iw. Let me ask you again... what specific setup configuration options are you missing from the current available tools to setting up your wireless adapters in Debian? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.15.49...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 11:16:00 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:46:17 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote: >> >> > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 + (UTC) Camaleón >> > wrote: >> > >> >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> > >> > ... >> > >> >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? >> >> >> "wireless-tools" package is still available in Debian and he >> >> >> upstream project is just on the way to replace it but they are >> >> >> still needed in some cases. >> >> >> >> > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing >> >> > list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not >> >> > provide all the function and at times give the wrong answers and >> >> > that iw should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. >> >> > They wrote it, so they should know. >> >> >> >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" >> >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using >> >> "ifup" method ;-) >> > >> > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly >> > responsible for documenting it. >> >> Are you sure? :-) >> >> I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces >> (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) >> and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, >> I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance. > > I think you may be confusing 'ifconfig / iwconfig' and ifupdown. The > former are *nix standard tools; the latter is a Debian-specific package > that contains the utilities ifup / ifdown, which work with the file > /etc/network/interfaces to manipulate network interfaces. IIUC, this is > a higher level interface which calls ifconfig / iwconfig / > wpa_supplicant / dhclient and other lower level utilities to do the > actual work. I have not mentioned "ifupdown" but "ifup" :-) And I've been calling "ifup" to the old method for setting up the networking interfaces that I have been using years ago. "Ifup" was the name I used in openSUSE for ifconfig tools (not just a binary file), so the naming confusion problem can come from here. >> Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented >> so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you >> think? > > iw is documented quite nicely: > > http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw Yes, I know... I mentioned that page in the very first of my posts to this thread ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.15.45...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 + (UTC) Camaleón > > > > wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > > ... > > > >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" > >> >> package is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just > >> >> on the way to replace it but they are still needed in some cases. > >> > > >> > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing > >> > list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not provide > >> > all the function and at times give the wrong answers and that iw > >> > should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. They wrote > >> > it, so they should know. > >> > >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" > >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using "ifup" > >> method ;-) > > > > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly > > responsible for documenting it. > > Are you sure? :-) > > I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces I am talking about Wireless interfaces, NOT ethernet ones. > (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) and > other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, I've also > used them in openSUSE, for instance. > > Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented so > users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you think? iw is very well documented, and it is available on Debian (has been for years). Its like the difference between ifconfig and ip, ifconfig is now deprecated (still exists but you should use the new one) and ip which gives all the new facilities. The same applies to iwconfig (the old one) and the newer iw. David > > Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110261618.20408.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:46:17 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote: > > > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 + (UTC) Camaleón > > wrote: > > > >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > >> > >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > > > > ... > > > >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" > >> >> package is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just > >> >> on the way to replace it but they are still needed in some cases. > >> > >> > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing > >> > list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not provide > >> > all the function and at times give the wrong answers and that iw > >> > should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. They wrote > >> > it, so they should know. > >> > >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" > >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using "ifup" > >> method ;-) > > > > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly > > responsible for documenting it. > > Are you sure? :-) > > I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces > (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) and > other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, I've also > used them in openSUSE, for instance. I think you may be confusing 'ifconfig / iwconfig' and ifupdown. The former are *nix standard tools; the latter is a Debian-specific package that contains the utilities ifup / ifdown, which work with the file /etc/network/interfaces to manipulate network interfaces. IIUC, this is a higher level interface which calls ifconfig / iwconfig / wpa_supplicant / dhclient and other lower level utilities to do the actual work. > Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented so > users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you think? iw is documented quite nicely: http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026111600.b89cfe21afd435ed78647...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 10:34:48 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: >> >> > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > > ... > >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" >> >> package is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just >> >> on the way to replace it but they are still needed in some cases. >> >> > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing >> > list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not provide >> > all the function and at times give the wrong answers and that iw >> > should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. They wrote >> > it, so they should know. >> >> Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" >> then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using "ifup" >> method ;-) > > AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly > responsible for documenting it. Are you sure? :-) I'm only aware of two ways for setting up ethernet network interfaces (today) in Linux systems: one if using the old method (ifup/ifconfig) and other is using networkmanager. And both are not Debian-centric, I've also used them in openSUSE, for instance. Anyway, whatever method is proposed by iw devels should be docummented so users and distributions can adapt it to their needs, don't you think? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.14.46...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:20:23 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: ... > >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" > >> package is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just on > >> the way to replace it but they are still needed in some cases. > > > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing list > > you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not provide all the > > function and at times give the wrong answers and that iw should be used > > on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. They wrote it, so they should > > know. > > Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" then > ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using "ifup" method ;-) AFAIK, ifupdown is a Debian specific package - kernel devs are hardly responsible for documenting it. Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026103448.0a6feaa5e5cec4fe0d407...@gmail.com
Re: Which repository
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 09:49:18 -0400 Marc Auslander wrote: > I'm probably missing something obvious but ... Is there a way to find > out which repository an installed package came from? The various show > commands list the path inside the repository, but not the repository itself. Perhaps the 'origin' keyword (see man apt_preferences)? Celejar -- foffl.sourceforge.net - Feeds OFFLine, an offline RSS/Atom aggregator mailmin.sourceforge.net - remote access via secure (OpenPGP) email ssuds.sourceforge.net - A Simple Sudoku Solver and Generator -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026102306.fbf9732be005cb89dbae2...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 14:31:17 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > I want to be able to write the iw equivalient of:- >> > >> > iface wlan0 inet static >> > >> >wireless-essid Test >> >wireless-channel 7 >> > >> > Given that iwconfig is now deprecated >> >> Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" >> package is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just on >> the way to replace it but they are still needed in some cases. > If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing list > you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not provide all the > function and at times give the wrong answers and that iw should be used > on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. They wrote it, so they should > know. Then why not ask them for a recommended replacement? If that's "iw" then ask for the documents on how to properly setup when using "ifup" method ;-) AFAIK, in Debian package "wireless-tools" is still supported/available. >> > (at least for new wifi interfaces) at a minimum it would be a good >> > idea if wireless-XXX used iw. I will submit a bug to this effect. >> >> That's the recommended/docummented way to manually setup the wifi >> adapter in Debian: >> >> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basics_of_wireless_lan_interface > Unfortunately that does not cover configuring mesh networks, which is > one of the areas that can not be done with iwconfig and has to be done > using iw. Can you please put an "exact" example for such configuration? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.14.20...@gmail.com
Which repository
I'm probably missing something obvious but ... Is there a way to find out which repository an installed package came from? The various show commands list the path inside the repository, but not the repository itself. -- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/E1RJ3r4-0005Vq-0L@Aptiva
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:26:23 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > (...) > > >> >> It basically documents the most common operations done from "iw". > >> > > >> > Yes, I know I can do it manually, I was looking for the same kind of > >> > alias that wireless-tools provided. > >> > >> If they're not docummented and because this is an ongoing work, I'd say > >> there is none (or at least "none" that I am aware of) ;-(. Are you > >> missing a specific command? > >> > >> Anyway, it seems that the usual set of tools¹ (the ones you mention) > >> are still available. > >> > >> ¹http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Documentation/Wireless-Extension > >> s > > > > You are misunderstanding what I am asking for. > > Hum? I thought you were looking for iwconfig/iwlist/iw* commands > replacement. > > > I want to be able to write the iw equivalient of:- > > > > iface wlan0 inet static > > > > wireless-essid Test > > wireless-channel 7 > > > > Given that iwconfig is now deprecated > > Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" package > is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just on the way to > replace it but they are still needed in some cases. If you ask anything about iwconfig on the wireless kernel mailing list you will get told that iwconfig is deprecated, does not provide all the function and at times give the wrong answers and that iw should be used on all mac80211 based wireless drivers. They wrote it, so they should know. > > > (at least for new wifi interfaces) at a minimum it would be a good idea > > if wireless-XXX used iw. I will submit a bug to this effect. > > That's the recommended/docummented way to manually setup the wifi > adapter in Debian: > > http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basics > _of_wireless_lan_interface Unfortunately that does not cover configuring mesh networks, which is one of the areas that can not be done with iwconfig and has to be done using iw. David > > So, what's what are you exactly missing now? > > Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110261431.18058.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 13:26:23 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> >> It basically documents the most common operations done from "iw". >> > >> > Yes, I know I can do it manually, I was looking for the same kind of >> > alias that wireless-tools provided. >> >> If they're not docummented and because this is an ongoing work, I'd say >> there is none (or at least "none" that I am aware of) ;-(. Are you >> missing a specific command? >> >> Anyway, it seems that the usual set of tools¹ (the ones you mention) >> are still available. >> >> ¹http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Documentation/Wireless-Extensions >> > You are misunderstanding what I am asking for. Hum? I thought you were looking for iwconfig/iwlist/iw* commands replacement. > I want to be able to write the iw equivalient of:- > > iface wlan0 inet static > wireless-essid Test > wireless-channel 7 > > Given that iwconfig is now deprecated Okay, I will have to ask... who has told you that? "wireless-tools" package is still available in Debian and he upstream project is just on the way to replace it but they are still needed in some cases. > (at least for new wifi interfaces) at a minimum it would be a good idea > if wireless-XXX used iw. I will submit a bug to this effect. That's the recommended/docummented way to manually setup the wifi adapter in Debian: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_basics_of_wireless_lan_interface So, what's what are you exactly missing now? Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.13.04...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Wednesday 26 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:55:39 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > > On Tuesday 25 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: > >> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:30:53 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > >> > In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx > >> > commands which get converted into iwconfig commands. iwconfig is now > >> > deprecated for many wireless cards, in favour of iw. > >> > > >> > Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for iw? > >> > >> Hmmm, I don't know if this will be of any help :-? > >> > >> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw > >> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw/replace-iwconfig > >> > >> It basically documents the most common operations done from "iw". > > > > Yes, I know I can do it manually, I was looking for the same kind of > > alias that wireless-tools provided. > > If they're not docummented and because this is an ongoing work, I'd say > there is none (or at least "none" that I am aware of) ;-(. Are you > missing a specific command? > > Anyway, it seems that the usual set of tools¹ (the ones you mention) are > still available. > > ¹http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Documentation/Wireless-Extensions > > Greetings, You are misunderstanding what I am asking for. I want to be able to write the iw equivalient of:- iface wlan0 inet static wireless-essid Test wireless-channel 7 Given that iwconfig is now deprecated (at least for new wifi interfaces) at a minimum it would be a good idea if wireless-XXX used iw. I will submit a bug to this effect. David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201110261326.23650.david.goodeno...@btconnect.com
Re: Weird DNS error?
El 2011-10-25 a las 14:25 -0400, Greg van Anders escribió: (sending back to the list and correcting the top-posting ;-) ) > On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Camaleón wrote: > > On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 00:54:08 -0400, Greg van Anders wrote: > > > > (...) > > > >> I can successfully host 192.168.1.254 to the above, as well as > >> many others. Yet if I try to, for example, ssh to the same server I get > >> "Name or service unknown". Adding -v, or -vv doesn't seem to tell me any > >> more. > >> > >> I find this a bit confusing. > >> > >> Any other suggestions? > > > > Yes (but maybe this has been already suggested...), try: > > > > dig @8.8.8.8 yahoo.com > > > > And put here the output. > Thanks Camaleon! > > Here are the results: > > $ dig @8.8.8.8 www.yahoo.com > > ; <<>> DiG 9.7.3 <<>> @8.8.8.8 www.yahoo.com > ; (1 server found) > ;; global options: +cmd > ;; Got answer: > ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 33036 > ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 > > ;; QUESTION SECTION: > ;www.yahoo.com. IN A > > ;; ANSWER SECTION: > www.yahoo.com.283 IN CNAME fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com. > fp3.wg1.b.yahoo.com. 44 IN CNAME any-fp3-lfb.wa1.b.yahoo.com. > any-fp3-lfb.wa1.b.yahoo.com. 284 IN CNAME any-fp3-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com. > any-fp3-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com. 44 IN A 209.191.122.70 > any-fp3-real.wa1.b.yahoo.com. 44 IN A 98.139.180.149 > > ;; Query time: 71 msec > ;; SERVER: 8.8.8.8#53(8.8.8.8) > ;; WHEN: Tue Oct 25 14:21:52 2011 > ;; MSG SIZE rcvd: 144 Perfect. > Does this help? > > Thanks again, > Greg Yes. Well, what the above is telling us is that: 1/ You can reach your DSL gateway 2/ You can resolve domain names usin Google's DNS servers, at least from command line tools Can you run the same query using your router's DNS facility and send the output? That is: dig@192.168.1.254 yahoo.com Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20111026120557.ga6...@stt008.linux.site
Re: icedove filiter folder
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:42:17 +0800, lina wrote: > The problem is that: > > 1] The folder in server failed to synchronize to the icedove local one. > > So there are only Inbox, Drafts and Trash in icedove. > > On the server (namely through webpage), I once created such as debian > folder to filter those emails from debian-list. Linux-kernel folder to > filter emails from Linux-kernel. Maybe is that the rest of the folders are hidden... Did you "subscribe" to them? > 2] I attempt to create new folder and re-build the filter on icedove. so > when I click the right button and choose "New Folder" > > If the new folder name is the same as the one in server, it showed me: > The current operation on "debian" did not succeed. The server for the > account lina@myemailaddress respond: Target folder already exist. > > I had no problem created a folder such as TEST (so long as the name is > not the same as the one on the server), but during rename, it would me > respond: Target folder already exist. Well, this looks quite normal because you cannot have two folders with the same name on an IMAP account (they collide), so nothing wrong here :-) > 3] The folder in server which contains other emails failed to show in > the icedove. (some emails last 2 years). > > 4] I don't know what to do, even I tried to remove the account and > re-add the account again. I think you have to read about the basics on how to configure Gmail IMAP accounts in Thunderbird: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Using_Gmail_with_Thunderbird_and_Mozilla_Suite There are some things you have to tweak to get them play nicely with each other. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.11.45...@gmail.com
Re: Is there an equivalent of wireless-xxxx using iw rather then iwconfig
On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 18:55:39 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: > On Tuesday 25 Oct 2011, Camaleón wrote: >> On Tue, 25 Oct 2011 17:30:53 +0100, David Goodenough wrote: >> > In wireless-tools there is support for embedding wireless-xxx >> > commands which get converted into iwconfig commands. iwconfig is now >> > deprecated for many wireless cards, in favour of iw. >> > >> > Is there a package that provides network/interfaces support for iw? >> >> Hmmm, I don't know if this will be of any help :-? >> >> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw >> http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Documentation/iw/replace-iwconfig >> >> It basically documents the most common operations done from "iw". >> > Yes, I know I can do it manually, I was looking for the same kind of > alias that wireless-tools provided. If they're not docummented and because this is an ongoing work, I'd say there is none (or at least "none" that I am aware of) ;-(. Are you missing a specific command? Anyway, it seems that the usual set of tools¹ (the ones you mention) are still available. ¹http://linuxwireless.org/en/developers/Documentation/Wireless-Extensions Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.11.29...@gmail.com
Re: Debian 4.0 on i686?
On Wed, 26 Oct 2011 12:35:51 +0530, sheela Chitawadagi wrote: > This is Sheela.I want to install Debian 4.0 on i686 machine as this > is > the only supported platform for installing driver for my pci board. If your PCI card is supported by the kernel and manufacturer provides open source drivers, there is a high chance that it also works in newer releases. >Is it available for downloading,if so please send me the link. Yes, it is under CD archive: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ But *think twice* before installing such an old operating system for daily work use. If you are connected to Internet you will be exposing your system (and your data) to many treats unless you manually patch your full system :-/ Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/pan.2011.10.26.11.19...@gmail.com
Problem with gdm3 and timedlogin
Hello debian-user! I have a squeeze machine running as XDMCP server, with 8 thin clients running as kiosk for public internet browsing. Every thin client must login with an associated user. Thin client 1 with user01, thin client 2 with user02 and so on. This is done with TimedLogin's gdm feature. I have set a delay of 1. This way the user has to click the "Accept" button to login. The sessions are killed 20 minutes after login. I found that gdm is a bit picky with the timedlogin script. I included two scripts (one working and one not working) as examples. With the Script1 always appears a windows that saying "Automated login" and two buttons, Accept and Cancel. OK. With the Script2, at boot, and every first time after logout, appears a windows that saying "Automated login", and two buttons, Accept and Cancel, but also a text box for user and then password. I have to press Cancel or make a failed login and then appears correct window, without the login text box. These are the scripts. Script1: works well ---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8 #!/bin/bash case "$DISPLAY" in 192.168.25.1:* ) echo user01 ;; 192.168.25.2:* ) echo user02 ;; ... 192.168.25.9:* ) echo usuario09 ;; esac ---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8 Script2: fails at boot and the first time after every logout ---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8 #!/bin/bash case "$DISPLAY" in 192.168.25.1:* ) sleep 1 echo user01 ;; 192.168.25.2:* ) sleep 1 echo user02 ;; ... 192.168.25.9:* ) sleep 1 echo usuario09 ;; esac ---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8---x8 Script2 are senseless, only a simple example, but... why doesnt work well? Any idea? Regards. -- Santiago Castillo Oliscasti...@aragon.es Técnico de sistemas 976 71 50 06 Biblioteca de Aragón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ea7daae.5070...@aragon.es
Automatikus:Végh István házon kívül van. (Visszaérkezés: 2011.10.27)
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Re: Firewall Setup
On Ma, 02 aug 11, 15:20:27, Paul Stuffins wrote: > > I have decided to go with Shorewall as it seems that it is fairly simple to > implement. > > While that may be the case, I just want to check my setup before I enable it > and lock myself out of the server. Just for the archives: the default shorewall.conf has ADMINISABSENTMINDED=Yes which means it won't cut any *existing* (ssh) connections, even if the new rule(s) would not allow them. This allows one to changes the firewall and still fix things from the existing session. It doesn't help much if you have flacky internet and/or power though. Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian 4.0 on i686?
Hello Sheela! It semms, that there is no Debian 4.0 available anymore. What is your pci-board? Couldn't you find an old kernel, that supports it? Hm usually the kernel doesn't loose many things over time. Kind regards Julien =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Such Is Life: Very Intensely Adorable; Free And Jubilating Amazement Revels, Dancing On - FLOWERS! == Find my music at == http://juliencoder.de/nama/music.html . "If you live to be 100, I hope I live to be 100 minus 1 day, so I never have to live without you." (Winnie the Pooh) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1110260940470.26...@britney.spears.net
Re: Debian 4.0 on i686?
On 10/26/2011 2:05 AM, sheela Chitawadagi wrote: > This is Sheela.I want to install Debian 4.0 on i686 machine as this is > the only supported platform for installing driver for my pci board. Which PCI board? Give full details. Hardware drivers are rarely removed from the kernel source tree unless there's a really good reason for doing so. Thus Debian 5 and 6 should still support your board. You may simply need to install a module that's not included in the version 5/6 Debian installer. Is this a disk controller, video card, or other? -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4ea7b972.7010...@hardwarefreak.com
Debian 4.0
Hi, This is Sheela.I want to install Debian 4.0 on i686 machine as this is the only supported platform for installing driver for my pci board. Is it available for downloading,if so please send me the link. Please do reply. Thank you Sheela -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/de4ffa182279481a2f87812b9faed7f9.squir...@mail.rri.local.net
Debian 4.0 on i686?
Hi, This is Sheela.I want to install Debian 4.0 on i686 machine as this is the only supported platform for installing driver for my pci board. Is it available for downloading,if so please send me the link. Please do reply. Thank you Sheela
