Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 22:55 +0100, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> On 18/11/2011 22:22, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 16:57 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> >> Hello List:
> >>
> >> is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?
> >>
> >> Thanks in advance,
> >> Jerome
> >
> > Good point!
> >
> > Applications>  Settings>  Settings Manager>  Keyboard>  Application
> > Shortcuts says that Ctrl + Alt + Delete should do the job, but it
> > doesn't. The "Action Buttons" plugin information includes "lock", but
> > the plugin doesn't add a lock option.
> 
> Are you sure you checked out the Properties for the plugin? There's a 
> dropdown list for what the button actually does including Lock.

Sorry, I've forgotten that there is the option for a second button. I
disabled it, since the icons would become to small.

> > Btw. for my Debian I'm missing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, nothing happens
> > if I push the shortcut, neither for GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, nor for Xfce.
> 
> That's an X related issue/feature, X disabled ctrl+alt+backspace in fact 
> that doesn't lock the screen it restarts X (just google it)

I know and usually this do work for Linux distros OOTB, but for Debian
it's not the default setting.

> 
> Lorenzo
> >
> > I pushed Alt + F2 and then run xflock4, then the screen gets locked, but
> > it won't get black.
> >
> > Hth,
> >
> > Ralf
> >
> >
> 
> 



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Re: Why does this preseed for gitolite fail?

[Bob Proulx]

Brian Troutwine wrote:
> Why? The pre-seed was extracted from a manually configured
> installation, per
> [here](http://serverfault.com/questions/330456/how-do-i-provide-dpkg-configuration-parameters-to-aptitude-or-apt-get/330467#330467)
> and exists without issue on another machine.

It looks like a bug to me.  It would be reasonable to file a bug in
the bts about it.

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Re: xfce weather plugin broken?

[John Jason Jordan]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 18:59:59 -0500
Pete Orrall  dijo:

>> > Apparently this affects more than just Xfce users

>> The Gnome weather applet still works, wonder why the XFce plugin
>> doesn't use the same service?
>
>From what I've read, the xfce weather plugin only uses the one service,
>The Weather Channel (TWC), to provide data.  The Gnome applet uses
>multiple sources.  Basically what's happened is the free (as in beer)
>data feed TWC has provided all these years has been shut offline in
>favor of a non-free version.  Just lovely.

I assume Gnome is using at least one free service. That is, the Gnome
weather applet has no ads and I've never been billed for the years I
have used it. 

I assume the developers of the Xfce weather applet are aware of which
services the Gnome weather applet uses. If so, then it must involve a
lot of complex coding to make the Xfce weather applet use the same
service(s). Otherwise it would be fixed.


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Re: problems of ppid.

[Bob Proulx]

Camaleón wrote:
> shiyao ma wrote:
> > Supposing I launched pidgin under xfce4 with keyboard shortcuts, I found
> > that pidgin's ppid is 1.
> > I knew that if I start a program in a console and e.g: wireshark& if I
> > close the console, the program will be still running, and it's pid will
> > be 1.

The traditional way to create a well behaved unix daemon leaves the
parent process id 1.  That is normal for well behaved daemons.

If the parent of a process exits then the init process, process id 1,
will inherit the child.  The parent process then will become 1.  It
starts off as a different ppid but then is converted to pid 1 when the
init process 1 inherits it.  This is usually forced for daemons.

> > Furthermore, if i start the wireshark under GUI, where does it read the
> > locale of my system?
> 
> It should use the default environment locale ("locale" command will 
> tell).

Daemons such as xdm, gdm, kdm, lightdm are launched from /etc/init.d
and those scripts read /etc/default/locale to set the LANG variable.
Having been set for their environment the value is inherited by the
child processes and it is then set in the desktop manager
environment.  When you start a menu selection it inherits the desktop
manager environment which is derived from the xdm environment.

In particular /etc/profile is not used in the execution path of
applications launched from the desktop menu.  Nor from the command
line.  At least not by default.  Nowhere in that path is a login
shell.  (I think that is a mistake.)

> This can be modified for some programs "on the fly", by setting 
> the variable "LANG" before launching the application. 
> ...
> And I want to run an application (and see the GUI) in English, I can:
> LANG=POSIX; gedit

If you only want it to be temporary then it is better to remove the
semicolon.  The presence of that ';' versus the absence of it is
important.

Set it permanently for this shell.  (Until the shell exits.)

  $ LANG=POSIX; gedit

Same as:

  $ LANG=POSIX
  $ gedit

Set it temporarily for just that one command.

  $ LANG=POSIX gedit

In this last case it is only set for the gedit command and not for any
other following command.  It is only temporary.

Bob


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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[Bob Proulx]

shiyao ma wrote:
> Once again, I added export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 in my .zshrc
> However, I do not think it will affect the locale of my GUI software...

Is it an acceptable solution to set LANG=zh_CN.UTF-8 only?
If not then I will suggest a more complicated but robust solution.

It appears that setting LANG works but setting LC_CTYPE does not.  I
just tried the experiment.  I ran 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' and make
zh_CN.UTF-8 available.  Then I tried having only LC_CTYPE set and
having only LANG set in /etc/default/locale.  Having LANG set
propagated the value successfully.  Having only LC_CTYPE set did not.

Having /etc/default/locale set LANG enables /etc/init.d/lightdm to
load the file.  Then children of lightdm inherit the variable.

Tom H wrote:
> With bash, you'd edit "/etc/profile" or "~/.profile"; with zsh, no idea.

That won't work for logins from an xdm such as gdm, kdm or lightdm.
Those are not in the execution path.  Shells launched are not login
shells and nowhere in the path (by default) are any shells a login
shell and therefore no sourcing of any profile will ever happen.

There are customizations that can be done to make shells login shells
or to have the entire xsession run from a login shell.  (I think
making .xsession run as a login shell is the best solution.  I have
posted about it several times before.)  But by default adding
variables to /etc/profile won't in your shell environment.  And
neither will it show up for any applications launched from the desktop
menu.

Bob


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Re: Ubuntuone Package

[Stephen Allen]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 02:54:18PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:33:33 -0500, Stephen Allen wrote:
> 
> > I had found an e-mail from one of the Ubuntu packagers from some time
> > back indicating that he was going to try to get this included in Debian,
> > due to the problems of installing the Ubuntu package on a Debian
> > installation.
> > 
> > Comments?
> 
> If you're hurry and cannot wait for the package to be available in Debian 
> here there are some links that can help you to deal with the Ubuntu's 
> package installation:

I am. ;)
 
> Is running Ubuntu One on Debian 'possible'?
> http://askubuntu.com/questions/10271/is-running-ubuntu-one-on-debian-possible
> 
> Howto: Ubuntu One in Debian Wheezy
> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=63310

Thanks, the 1st I had read prior but the second one looks golden and hadn't 
found it with
my Google foo.

> Greetings,

Cheers,
Stephen


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Re: Is for this community XFCE the most common DE to replace GNOME 3?

[Stephen Allen]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 08:39:06PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Hi :)
> 
> do most of you replace GNOME 3 by XFCE?
> 
> I'm undecided what to do, but I guess it would be wise to install
> parallel to GNOME 3 the most used alternative installed by users who are
> subscribed to this list.
> 
> Excepted of KDE users, XFCE seems to be the most used replacement for
> GNOME 3. Am I mistaken?
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Ralf
> 
---end quoted text---

You might try using Openbox. I run it without a desktop environment and it just
works. Even better without the overhead of LXDE.


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Re: xfce weather plugin broken?

[Pete Orrall]

 
> > Apparently this affects more than just Xfce users
> 
> The Gnome weather applet still works, wonder why the XFce plugin doesn't use 
> the 
> same service?

>From what I've read, the xfce weather plugin only uses the one service,
The Weather Channel (TWC), to provide data.  The Gnome applet uses
multiple sources.  Basically what's happened is the free (as in beer)
data feed TWC has provided all these years has been shut offline in
favor of a non-free version.  Just lovely.

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Re: gnome 3 refugee: obstructive panel in xfce

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 20:52 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I've fled from gnome 3 and am mostly happy with xfce.  But there's the 
> panel with six icons at the bottom of the screen that obscures the bottom 
> of a lot of windows.  How can I get rid  of it, or move it elsewhere?  Is 
> it possible to move it to be part of the strip at the top, for example?  
> In a pinch, I suppose I could get rid of it, because all those tools seem 
> to be available as part of the applications menu anyway. 
> 
> The screen savers are pretty, but would it be possible to have them just 
> go blank and save power when the laptop in not plugged in?
> 
> -- hendrik

Alt + F2 > xfce4-settings-manager > Panel > Choose Panel 2 > Edit it,
unlock and move it or "-" (delete) it

Hth,

Ralf



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Re: Wheezy with Xfce4 --- problems with 3.0.0-1-amd64 kernel

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 13:01 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> Thanks to all for help! Now, finally, I solved all my problems, except one:
> I still do not have wifi working, although, as far as I can see, I
> have all relevant packages installed. I use wicd (wicd-gtk) and do NOT
> have network-manager installed (I always earlier found wicd to
> function better)
> 
> Wheezy with Xfce4 is working well
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Kjetil

Other readers might be thankful, if you would post how you solved the
issue ;).

> 
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 08:36, Lorenzo Sutton  
> wrote:
> > On 17/11/11 15:31, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> >>
> >> Hola!
> >>
> >> I just got to reinstall debiann vause my harddisk fried. I wanted to
> >> use the opportunity to change from gnome
> >> to Xfce4. This worked well when I installed stable, but when upgrading
> >> to wheezy the problems arrived.
> >>
> >> First some output from lspci:
> >>
> >> VGA compatible controller : nVidia corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev
> >> a2)
> >
> > I have a different chipset (9200M GS), and...
> >
> >>
> >> So i tried to install the nVidia drivers, but that does mot seem to work 
> >> .>>
> >> When booting, tye kernel 3.0.0-1-amd64 boots, but the X window system
> >> (with GDM3) do not start.
> >
> > ...I'm using SLIM... but:
> >
> > Install worked for me following this simple procedure [1] (self-made memo)
> > while the one explained on the debian Wiki failed.
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> >
> > Good look,
> > Lorenzo.
> >
> > [1] http://pastie.org/2878413
> >>
> >> I can work with the 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel, though the Xfce desktop has
> >> some problems --- the panel line at foot of the monitor do not show,
> >> neither do the machine find the wireless network (I installed wicd).
> >>
> >> Any ideas?
> >>
> >> Kjetil Halvorsen
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 12:19 -0500, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jerome BENOIT  wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 18/11/11 17:00, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
> >>
> >> On 18/11/11 16:57, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hello List:
> >>>
> >>> is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome)
> >>> ?
> >>
> >> Yes. With the command xflock4 - part of the xfce4-utils which you probably
> >> already have installed.
> >
> > You are right.
> >
> >> It can also be bound to a keyboard shortcut.
> >>
> >
> > I would prefer a `button' near the `Log Out' one:
> > I guess it can be done ... how ?
> 
> It's an option in the "Action Buttons" that you can add to the panel.
> Right-click on the panel and choose "Add New Items...".
> 
> Patrick

No, for testing it's not included, just the info says that there should
be a lock option.



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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 17:34 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> I would prefer a `button' near the `Log Out' one:
> I guess it can be done ... how ?

Alt + F2 > xfce4-settings-manager > Panel > Items > + (Add new item to
this panel) > Add Launcher > Select the launcher > Push button to "Edit
the currently selected item" > In tab "General" push the button to "Add
a new empty item" > Command: xflock4, Icon: Action
Icons/xfce-system-lock > Name: Lock screen > Create > Close all unneeded
windows

Click to use it
Right-click to move it

Hth,

Ralf







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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 22:22 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 16:57 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> > Hello List:
> > 
> > is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?
> > 
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Jerome
> 
> Good point!
> 
> Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Application
> Shortcuts says that Ctrl + Alt + Delete should do the job, but it
> doesn't. The "Action Buttons" plugin information includes "lock", but
> the plugin doesn't add a lock option.
> 
> Btw. for my Debian I'm missing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, nothing happens
> if I push the shortcut, neither for GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, nor for Xfce.
> 
> I pushed Alt + F2 and then run xflock4, then the screen gets locked, but
> it won't get black.
> 
> Hth,
> 
> Ralf

PS: I guess I add a launcher for xflock4 and off topic, I'll also add
launchers to switch between CPU frequency scaling governors to the
panel.



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Re: Xfce: 2 + 1 questions

[Ralf Mardorf]

Thank you Lorenzo :)

> As far as I've read so far the only way would be to use the gnome 
> plugin... or you can of course go terminal e.g. with the cpufrequtils

The current Xfce plugin for using GNOME panel plugins doesn't work for
the current Xfce panel.

> > 2.
> >
> > For a panel and for 'Applications>  Office>  Evolution' it's launched by
> > evolution --force-online. The Xfce applications menu additionally
> > includes a launcher on top of the menu. Unfortunately this launcher will
> > start Evolution without --force-online, so there'll be no connection to
> > the network. This is caused by the upgrade from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3.
> > Where can I edit those additional entries?
> 
> Have a look at the Menu customising page on the XFCE wiki [1]

I already read it, but it seems to be that I need to edit some exo-open
thingy.

$ grep Exec /usr/share/applications/exo-mail-reader.desktop
Exec=exo-open --launch MailReader %u

Perhaps I should test if editing it to
Exec=exo-open --launch evolution --force-online
will do the job?!

> > 3.
> >
> > This issue isn't Xfce related, it's also an issue for GNOME 2 and GNOME
> > 3.
> > I'm using en for my system only, not my native language de, but I'm
> > using a de keyboard and I prefer local settings, such as C°, km, m.
> >
> > For Debian and Ubuntu the "," at the Num keyboard is a "," but it should
> > be "translated" to ".", for Suse this does work by default.
> > When using gcalctool it's needed that the "," for the Num keyboard only
> > is converted to a ".", for the Qwert... part of the keyboard the ","
> > should be a "," and the "." should be a ".".
> >
> > Where can I edit this setting?
> 
> Not sure.. Maybe xmodmap and similar?

I'll reset dpkg-reconfigure locales to en only, restore ~/.profil and
test http://www.jwz.org/xkeycaps/ instead.

Regards,

Ralf


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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 18/11/2011 22:22, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 16:57 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?

Thanks in advance,
Jerome


Good point!

Applications>  Settings>  Settings Manager>  Keyboard>  Application
Shortcuts says that Ctrl + Alt + Delete should do the job, but it
doesn't. The "Action Buttons" plugin information includes "lock", but
the plugin doesn't add a lock option.


Are you sure you checked out the Properties for the plugin? There's a 
dropdown list for what the button actually does including Lock.




Btw. for my Debian I'm missing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, nothing happens
if I push the shortcut, neither for GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, nor for Xfce.


That's an X related issue/feature, X disabled ctrl+alt+backspace in fact 
that doesn't lock the screen it restarts X (just google it)


Lorenzo


I pushed Alt + F2 and then run xflock4, then the screen gets locked, but
it won't get black.

Hth,

Ralf





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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[Tom H]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:29 PM, shiyao ma  wrote:
>
> Once again, I added export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 in my .zshrc
> However, I do not think it will affect the locale of my GUI software...

With bash, you'd edit "/etc/profile" or "~/.profile"; with zsh, no idea.


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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 16:57 +0100, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
> Hello List:
> 
> is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?
> 
> Thanks in advance,
> Jerome

Good point!

Applications > Settings > Settings Manager > Keyboard > Application
Shortcuts says that Ctrl + Alt + Delete should do the job, but it
doesn't. The "Action Buttons" plugin information includes "lock", but
the plugin doesn't add a lock option.

Btw. for my Debian I'm missing Ctrl + Alt + Backspace, nothing happens
if I push the shortcut, neither for GNOME 2 and GNOME 3, nor for Xfce.

I pushed Alt + F2 and then run xflock4, then the screen gets locked, but
it won't get black.

Hth,

Ralf


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Re: Wheezy with Xfce4 --- path to kioskrc

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 15:38 +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > What's the regular full path for testing to the Xfce kioskrc?
> > 
> > ???/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc?
>   ^^^
>   etc
> 
> Greetings,

When I started the Xfce panel a message appeared and told me the panel
run in kiosk mode, so I searched the rc, to edit it and couldn't find
any, e.g. there's no in /etc/ Anyway, I tried to edit the panel and
it was possible to edit it, hence I guess the message was mistaken. The
panel doesn't run in kiosk mode. There simply seems to be no rc on my
system.

Thanks,

Ralf



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Re: problems of ppid.

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 19 Nov 2011 02:59:25 +0800, shiyao ma wrote:

> Supposing I launched pidgin under xfce4 with keyboard shortcuts, I found
> that pidgin's ppid is 1.
> I knew that if I start a program in a console and e.g: wireshark& if I
> close the console, the program will be still running, and it's pid will
> be 1.

You will have to append "&" to the process, but yes.

> Under GUI, how it works? The more detailed the better. 

What do you mean? It works the same :-?

When you launch wireshark from a desktop shortcut the application will 
get a PID ("ps aux|grep wireshark" will tell the process ID for this app) 
and will keep that way until you close it.

> Furthermore, if i start the wireshark under GUI, where does it read the
> locale of my system?

It should use the default environment locale ("locale" command will 
tell). This can be modified for some programs "on the fly", by setting 
the variable "LANG" before launching the application. 

For instance, if my locale is set to Spanish:

sm01@stt008:~$ locale|grep -i lang
LANG=es_ES.UTF-8

And I want to run an application (and see the GUI) in English, I can:

LANG=POSIX; gedit

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Re: gnome 3 refugee: obstructive panel in xfce

[Joao Ferreira Gmail]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 20:52 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:
> I've fled from gnome 3 and am mostly happy with xfce.  But there's the 
> panel with six icons at the bottom of the screen that obscures the bottom 
> of a lot of windows.  How can I get rid  of it, or move it elsewhere?  Is 
> it possible to move it to be part of the strip at the top, for example?  
> In a pinch, I suppose I could get rid of it, because all those tools seem 
> to be available as part of the applications menu anyway. 
> 

Go to "Applications Menu -> Settings -> Panel"

Select Panel 2 and press the '-' button at the top right corner.

I did not try it but it should work.

Joao

> The screen savers are pretty, but would it be possible to have them just 
> go blank and save power when the laptop in not plugged in?
> 
> -- hendrik
> 
> 



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Re: gnome 3 refugee: obstructive panel in xfce

[Walter Hurry]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 20:52:46 +, Hendrik Boom wrote:

> The screen savers are pretty, but would it be possible to have them just
> go blank and save power when the laptop in not plugged in?

You don't need any screensavers installed. man xset.



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Re: Xfce: File browser

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 08:06 -0600, Selim T. Erdogan wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf, 18.11.2011:
> > 
> > IMO it's hard enough that there isn't a confidential, comfortable shred
> > option even for the command line, at least the DE should delete (rm -r)
> > files and directories instead of moving them.
> > Or is there a shred option working for journaled FS and that perhaps
> > enables to delete directories directly too?
> 
> Have a look at the secure-delete package.  I've used srm in the past.
> 
> (BTW, it has options to tell it how many times to overwrite data.  If 
> you choose high values it'll take a REAALLY LOONG time.)

Thank you :)



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Re: Xfce: File browser

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 14:24 +0200, SM wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:22:22PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > When deleting files or directories with Thunar's right-click delete
> > option, those files will be moved to the wastebasket.
> 
> Lot of DE's understand pressing Shift-Delete after you've selected the
> files/folders as "delete permanently". At least GNOME does, so you
> could try that if it works.

$ cd Desktop
$ touch test

Thank you, shift + delete works, but it's not a comfortable workflow to
mark the file with the mouse cursor, then to push shift + delete and
after that to confirm with Enter or by a click.

Regards,

Ralf





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Re: Xfce: 2 + 1 questions

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi Andrei :)

On Fri, 2011-11-18 at 14:08 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:
> On Vi, 18 nov 11, 11:56:09, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > 1.
> > 
> > The cpufreq information plugin for the Xfce4 panel,
> > xfce4-cpufreq-plugin, doesn't enable to switch from ondemand to
> > performance.
> > How can I get this feature working?
> 
> Is this supported or you just want it?

It's supported by the plugin, but it doesn't work. If there should be
another plugin for the panel to switch the CPU frequency scaling I would
use this.
I usually only need to switch to performance when I run audio sessions,
to avoid issues with jackd.
The plugin for the gnome panel does the job, I need such an plugin for
Xfce too.
# cpufreq-selector -g performance &
also is ok. Btw. without the & the CLI hangs, I suspect & isn't the
correct command to handle this?!

> > 2.
> > 
> > For a panel and for 'Applications > Office > Evolution' it's
launched by
> > evolution --force-online. The Xfce applications menu additionally
> > includes a launcher on top of the menu. Unfortunately this launcher
will
> > start Evolution without --force-online, so there'll be no connection
to
> > the network. This is caused by the upgrade from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3.
> > 
> > Where can I edit those additional entries?
> 
> I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to edit the menu entry
or 
> some additional launcher you added somewhere?

I know how to edit a launcher and I know how to edit a "regular" menu
entry. But on top of the Xfce's applications menu there are entries that
don't appear when I run alacarte or when I use the option to edit
entries by the applications menu's properties (seems to be alacarte
too).

> > 3.
> > 
> > This issue isn't Xfce related, it's also an issue for GNOME 2 and
GNOME
> > 3.
> > I'm using en for my system only, not my native language de, but I'm
> > using a de keyboard and I prefer local settings, such as C°, km, m.
> > 
> > For Debian and Ubuntu the "," at the Num keyboard is a "," but it
should
> > be "translated" to ".", for Suse this does work by default.
> > When using gcalctool it's needed that the "," for the Num keyboard
only
> > is converted to a ".", for the Qwert... part of the keyboard the ","
> > should be a "," and the "." should be a ".".
> > 
> > Where can I edit this setting?
> 
> For the keyboard:
> 
> dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration
> 
> and chose "de" as your layout.

No need to do this, it's already set to de.

> For the other settings I've had success in the past with setting the 
> correct locale (de_DE.UTF-8 in you case) and then exporting
> 
> LANGUAGE=english
> 
> for example in ~/.profile

Hm? This seems not to be the correct way to set

# dpkg-reconfigure locales

Locales to be generated:
[*] de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8
[*] en_GB.UTF-8 UTF-8

Default locale for the system environment:
de_DE.UTF-8

Generating locales (this might take a while)...
  de_DE.UTF-8... done
  en_GB.UTF-8... done
Generation complete.
*** update-locale: Warning: LANGUAGE ("en_GB:en") is not compatible with
LANG (de_DE.UTF-8). Disabling it.

$ gedit .profile
$ grep LANGUAGE .profile
LANGUAGE=english

Restart

The Login Manager (GDM) starts in German, but it should be English :(,
anyway I can stand this.

$ gcalctool
If I push the "," on the Num keyboard it's still not a "." for
gcalctool :(.

At least anything else still seems to be in English, as it should be,
OTOH excepted of the dictionary, I haven't installed any de language
packages.

Now even messages by the terminal are on German :(, this is absolutely
unwanted.

spinymouse@debian:~$ local -a
bash: local: can only be used in a function
spinymouse@debian:~$ su
Password: 
root@debian:/home/spinymouse# local -a
bash: local: kann nur innerhalb einer Funktion benutzt werden.

Okay, I guess editing /root/.profile would solve this issue.

How do I set up "the correct local"?

Didn't find it by Google.

Thanks,

Ralf


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gnome 3 refugee: obstructive panel in xfce

[Hendrik Boom]

I've fled from gnome 3 and am mostly happy with xfce.  But there's the 
panel with six icons at the bottom of the screen that obscures the bottom 
of a lot of windows.  How can I get rid  of it, or move it elsewhere?  Is 
it possible to move it to be part of the strip at the top, for example?  
In a pinch, I suppose I could get rid of it, because all those tools seem 
to be available as part of the applications menu anyway. 

The screen savers are pretty, but would it be possible to have them just 
go blank and save power when the laptop in not plugged in?

-- hendrik


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Re: Wheezy with Xfce4 --- problems with 3.0.0-1-amd64 kernel

[Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen]

Thanks to all for help! Now, finally, I solved all my problems, except one:
I still do not have wifi working, although, as far as I can see, I
have all relevant packages installed. I use wicd (wicd-gtk) and do NOT
have network-manager installed (I always earlier found wicd to
function better)

Wheezy with Xfce4 is working well

Any ideas?

Kjetil

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 08:36, Lorenzo Sutton  wrote:
> On 17/11/11 15:31, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
>>
>> Hola!
>>
>> I just got to reinstall debiann vause my harddisk fried. I wanted to
>> use the opportunity to change from gnome
>> to Xfce4. This worked well when I installed stable, but when upgrading
>> to wheezy the problems arrived.
>>
>> First some output from lspci:
>>
>> VGA compatible controller : nVidia corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev
>> a2)
>
> I have a different chipset (9200M GS), and...
>
>>
>> So i tried to install the nVidia drivers, but that does mot seem to work.
>>
>> When booting, tye kernel 3.0.0-1-amd64 boots, but the X window system
>> (with GDM3) do not start.
>
> ...I'm using SLIM... but:
>
> Install worked for me following this simple procedure [1] (self-made memo)
> while the one explained on the debian Wiki failed.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Good look,
> Lorenzo.
>
> [1] http://pastie.org/2878413
>>
>> I can work with the 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel, though the Xfce desktop has
>> some problems --- the panel line at foot of the monitor do not show,
>> neither do the machine find the wireless network (I installed wicd).
>>
>> Any ideas?
>>
>> Kjetil Halvorsen
>>
>
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problems of ppid.

[shiyao ma]

Hi,all
Supposing I launched pidgin under xfce4 with keyboard shortcuts, I found
that pidgin's ppid is 1.
I knew that if I start a program in a console and e.g: wireshark& if I
close the console, the program will be still running, and it's pid will be
1.
Under GUI, how it works? The more detailed the better.
Furthermore, if i start the wireshark under GUI, where does it read the
locale of my system?

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Re: xfce weather plugin broken?

[Stephen Allen]

On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 06:06:55PM -0500, Pete Orrall wrote:
> On Sun, 2011-11-13 at 16:31 +, Brian wrote:
> > On Sun 13 Nov 2011 at 10:18:52 -0500, Pete Orrall wrote:
> > 
> > > What's going on and how do I fix this?
> > 
> > https://mail.xfce.org/mailman/listinfo/xfce
> > 
> > November 2011.
> 
> Thanks Brian and Joey for the help.  I dug a little deeper with the
> links provided and found this:
> 
> http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/goodies-dev/2011-October/003139.html
> 
> Apparently this affects more than just Xfce users

The Gnome weather applet still works, wonder why the XFce plugin doesn't use 
the 
same service?


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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[shiyao ma]

Once again, I added export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8 in my .zshrc
However, I do not think it will affect the locale of my GUI software...
So guys, what's your solution?

On Sat, Nov 19, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Curt  wrote:

> On 2011-11-18, Marlon Nunes  wrote:
> > do a: dpkg-reconfigure locales
> > choose your default locale and that's it.
> > reboot.
>
> Why reboot?
>
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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Patrick Wiseman]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, Jerome BENOIT  wrote:
>
>
> On 18/11/11 17:00, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:
>>
>> On 18/11/11 16:57, Jerome BENOIT wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello List:
>>>
>>> is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome)
>>> ?
>>
>> Yes. With the command xflock4 - part of the xfce4-utils which you probably
>> already have installed.
>
> You are right.
>
>> It can also be bound to a keyboard shortcut.
>>
>
> I would prefer a `button' near the `Log Out' one:
> I guess it can be done ... how ?

It's an option in the "Action Buttons" that you can add to the panel.
Right-click on the panel and choose "Add New Items...".

Patrick


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Difficulty with bonded ethernet devices after upgrade to squeeze

[Patrick Zaloum]

Hello
I have been dealing with a problem for quite a while now since upgrading my
lenny servers that use bonding to squeeze.
It is a bit difficult to explain so I will do my best

Let me start by giving my bond config:

iface bond0 inet static
address x.x.x.x
netmask 255.255.255.0
network x.x.x.0
broadcast x.x.x.255
gateway x,x,x.1
bond-slaves eth0 eth1
bond-mode balance-alb
bond-miimon 100
bond-downdelay 200
bond-updelay 200

Ethernet Channel Bonding Driver: v3.5.0 (November 4, 2008)

Bonding Mode: adaptive load balancing
Primary Slave: None
Currently Active Slave: eth0
MII Status: up
MII Polling Interval (ms): 100
Up Delay (ms): 200
Down Delay (ms): 200

Slave Interface: eth0
MII Status: up
Link Failure Count: 0
Permanent HW addr: 00:XX:XX:66:98:34

Slave Interface: eth1
MII Status: up
Link Failure Count: 0
Permanent HW addr: 00:XX:XX:66:98:36

bond0 Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:XX:XX:66:98:34
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING MASTER MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
eth0  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:XX:XX:66:98:34
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1
eth1  Link encap:Ethernet  HWaddr 00:XX:XX:66:98:36
  UP BROADCAST RUNNING SLAVE MULTICAST  MTU:1500  Metric:1



The problem started immediately after rebooting from the upgrade (however
in my troubleshooting I have been able to reproduce the problem with a
fresh install of Squeeze): I was unable to reach my network.
Testing with pings demonstrated that I was achieving about 40-50%
throughput and the rest were lost packets.
This was true for routed traffic and broadcast domain traffic.
In troubleshooting I concluded that the issue could be MAC related. I
started watching tcpdump logs of ARP traffic to and from my server.
Started testing with a server in the same subnet.
When pings succeed the ARP cache of the remote server shows the MAC for
eth0 (which is also the MAC owned by the bond0 device)
When pings fail the ARP cache shows the MAC for eth1 (not the MAC owned by
the bond device)
I don't see the changing MAC as a problem since I am using balance-alb, i
figure my server's MAC will be flapping between one slave and the other.
But why are the pings failing?
I do notice that eth1 seems to ARP reply much more often than eth0 (almost
exclusively)
I start tcpdumping the ICMP traffic on both ends. Packets coming to the
bonded server leave the remote host with a valid MAC for eth1 in the
destination. (but fail)
I notice that when I use tcpdump on eth1, the pings go through! As soon as
I stop they don't.
I run the tcpdump without putting eth1 into promiscuous mode and pings
continue to fail. If I enable promiscuous mode the pings go through!

So my current conclusion is that for some reason, despite eth1 being in an
alb config, it is dropping packets as though they were not destined for
that interface. However, it does send ARP replies with its MAC. Forcing the
interface to run in promiscuous mode with ifconfig seems to temporarily
resolve the issue. So does dismembering the bond device and reassembling
it. (ifdown and ifup) for each slave.

As soon as the server reboots, this starts over (unless I somewhere specify
eth1 to boot in promiscuous mode)

I hope this little narrative is enough for one of you to provide
assistance, if not please request any info you are missing.

Thanks in advance,
Pat

Re: GUI for mic testing ?

[Curt]

On 2011-11-16, J. Bakshi  wrote:
> Dear list,
>
> Any small GUI tool for mic testing ?
> Mine is Icewm with alsamixer gtk. But can't check the mic;
> no visual.

Test it for what?

Get a gmail account, log in, go to chat settings, and there's a meter.
Especially good if you're tight on space.


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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[Curt]

On 2011-11-18, Marlon Nunes  wrote:
> do a: dpkg-reconfigure locales
> choose your default locale and that's it.
> reboot.

Why reboot?


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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Jerome BENOIT]

On 18/11/11 17:00, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

On 18/11/11 16:57, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?


Yes. With the command xflock4 - part of the xfce4-utils which you probably 
already have installed.


You are right.


It can also be bound to a keyboard shortcut.



I would prefer a `button' near the `Log Out' one:
I guess it can be done ... how ?

Thanks again,
Jerome


Lorenzo.



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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Rares Aioanei]

On 11/18/2011 05:57 PM, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within 
Gnome) ?


Thanks in advance,
Jerome

xscreensaver-command -activate works on any WM/DE. Replace -activate 
with -lock if needed.



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Re: How to fix the ELF class issue

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:25:37 +0800, lina wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

>> I guess this happens when you run acrobat reader from command line,
>> right?
> 
> Yes. when I tried to print certain page into a new .ps file. (my pdfedit
> also not work)

(...)

- It happens with any PDF file you open or just with certain files?

- It happens when opening a PDF file or just when you want to run a 
specific funtion (such printing)?

- Does okular or another pdf viewer work?

>> The program is looking for a 32-bits library and found none. Maybe you
>> need the compat lib32- package... but first, where did you get the
> 
> compat? you mean compatible? sorry, I checked on debian package, so many
> with the compat keyword.

Yes, I meant "ia32-libs" but this package is only required for installing/
running 32-bits compiled applications inside a 64-bits system and given 
your comments below I'm not sure this is your case.

>> acrobat package, what version did you install (32/64-bits) and what's
> $ dpkg -s acroread
(...)
> Architecture: amd64
^
(...)

If it's a "pure" 64 bits package then I'm lost. Why would it require 32-
bits libraries? A bug... somewhere? :-?

>> your system running (32/64-bits flavour)?
> 
> $ uname -a
> Linux debian 3.0.0-mbp82-lina #1 SMP Tue Jul 26 21:52:57 SGT 2011 x86_64
> GNU/Linux

So what we have here is a 64-bits package and 64-bits system. It should 
be called the proper library with no complains at all so I'm not sure 
who's the culprit. We can blame:

1/ Acrobat for requesting the wrong libraries (32-bits?)
2/ The system package in charge of loading the proper libraries

:-)

I'm not sure what path to follow from here, how about asking at D-M 
mailing list to get further feedback?

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Re: Xfce: 2 + 1 questions

[Lorenzo Sutton]

Hi,

On 18/11/11 11:56, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Hi :)

now I prefer Xfce to GNOME 2 and GNOME 3. Excepted of some thingies I'm
missing for Xfce, it's easier and better to configure. 'Better' since it
has advantages for my workflow.


GNOME expat here as well...  :)


The cpufreq information plugin for the Xfce4 panel,
xfce4-cpufreq-plugin, doesn't enable to switch from ondemand to
performance.
How can I get this feature working?


As far as I've read so far the only way would be to use the gnome 
plugin... or you can of course go terminal e.g. with the cpufrequtils


2.

For a panel and for 'Applications>  Office>  Evolution' it's launched by
evolution --force-online. The Xfce applications menu additionally
includes a launcher on top of the menu. Unfortunately this launcher will
start Evolution without --force-online, so there'll be no connection to
the network. This is caused by the upgrade from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3.
Where can I edit those additional entries?


Have a look at the Menu customising page on the XFCE wiki [1]



3.

This issue isn't Xfce related, it's also an issue for GNOME 2 and GNOME
3.
I'm using en for my system only, not my native language de, but I'm
using a de keyboard and I prefer local settings, such as C°, km, m.

For Debian and Ubuntu the "," at the Num keyboard is a "," but it should
be "translated" to ".", for Suse this does work by default.
When using gcalctool it's needed that the "," for the Num keyboard only
is converted to a ".", for the Qwert... part of the keyboard the ","
should be a "," and the "." should be a ".".

Where can I edit this setting?


Not sure.. Maybe xmodmap and similar?

Lorenzo


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Why does this preseed for gitolite fail?

[Brian Troutwine]

I'm installing gitolite on a Debian Squeeze box with the following preseed:

gitolitegitolite/gituserstring  git
gitolitegitolite/adminkey   string  ssh-rsa B3ECT
gitolitegitolite/gitdir string  /var/lib/git

On installation:

# debconf-set-selections /var/cache/debconf/gitolite.preseed
# apt-get install gitolite
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Suggested packages:
  git-daemon-run gitweb
The following NEW packages will be installed:
  gitolite
0 upgraded, 1 newly installed, 0 to remove and 26 not upgraded.
Need to get 0 B/114 kB of archives.
After this operation, 348 kB of additional disk space will be used.
Preconfiguring packages ...
Selecting previously deselected package gitolite.
(Reading database ... 24715 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking gitolite (from .../gitolite_1.5.4-2+squeeze1_all.deb) ...
Setting up gitolite (1.5.4-2+squeeze1) ...
adduser: The home dir must be an absolute path.
dpkg: error processing gitolite (--configure):
 subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 1
configured to not write apport reports
  Errors were encountered
while processing:
 gitolite
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)

Why? The pre-seed was extracted from a manually configured
installation, per
[here](http://serverfault.com/questions/330456/how-do-i-provide-dpkg-configuration-parameters-to-aptitude-or-apt-get/330467#330467)
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Re: Xfce: manual lock screen

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 18/11/11 16:57, Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?


Yes. With the command xflock4 - part of the xfce4-utils which you 
probably already have installed.

It can also be bound to a keyboard shortcut.

Lorenzo.



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Xfce: manual lock screen

[Jerome BENOIT]

Hello List:

is there a way to lock the screen manually within Xfce (as within Gnome) ?

Thanks in advance,
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Re: Wheezy with Xfce4 --- path to kioskrc

[Camaleón]

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 20:20:27 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> What's the regular full path for testing to the Xfce kioskrc?
> 
> ???/xdg/xfce4/kiosk/kioskrc?
  ^^^
  etc

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Re: Adobe flash is dead

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 4:51 AM, Lisi Reisz  wrote:
>
> And it didn't for me when I installed Lenny.  I have just installed it
> manually.  I have not got task-desktop, so do not need its
> dependencies.
>
> lisi@Junior:~$ aptitude search task-desktop
> lisi@Junior:~$

Keep in mind that the desktop task isn't a package, it's a task (as in tasksel):

cbell@circe:~$ tasksel --list-tasks
i desktop   Graphical desktop environment
u web-serverWeb server
i print-server  Print server
u dns-serverDNS server
u file-server   File server
i mail-server   Mail server
u database-server   SQL database
i ssh-serverSSH server
i laptopLaptop
u manualmanual package selection
cbell@circe:~$

The "i" indicates it's installed.

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Re: How to fix the ELF class issue

[lina]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:53:46 +0800, lina wrote:
>
>> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
>> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class:
>> ELFCLASS64 Failed to load module:
>> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so
>>
>> (acroread-en:16443): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
>
> I guess this happens when you run acrobat reader from command line, right?

Yes. when I tried to print certain page into a new .ps file. (my
pdfedit also not work)

/usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
/usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so
/usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
/usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so

(acroread-en:): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead



>
>> $ readelf -h /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so ELF
>> Header:
>>   Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 02 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Class:
>>                        ELF64
>>
>> $ readelf -h /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so ELF
>> Header:
>>   Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 02 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Class:
>>                        ELF64
>
> The program is looking for a 32-bits library and found none. Maybe you
> need the compat lib32- package... but first, where did you get the

compat? you mean compatible? sorry, I checked on debian package, so
many with the compat keyword.

> acrobat package, what version did you install (32/64-bits) and what's
$ dpkg -s acroread
Package: acroread
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/text
Installed-Size: 82552
Maintainer: Christian Marillat 
Bugs: mailto:maril...@debian.org
Architecture: amd64
Source: adobereader-enu
Version: 9.4.2-0.0


> your system running (32/64-bits flavour)?

$ uname -a
Linux debian 3.0.0-mbp82-lina #1 SMP Tue Jul 26 21:52:57 SGT 2011
x86_64 GNU/Linux

>
> Greetings,

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Re: gnome-volume-manager gone?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 09:54:25 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:

> On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 02:31:45PM +, Camale?n wrote:
>> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:41:13 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
>> 
>> > Has anyone else experienced this? I updated my wheezy-running netbook
>> > today (over 200 packages),
>> 
>> Wow, that's too many packages, maybe because you did not run updates on
>> regular intervals :-?
> 
> I don't even power up the netbook every week. Or every month. I sure
> hope Debian doesn't require me to power up a device just to update it
> regularly.
> 
> I leave on a trip today, so I was getting everything prepped.

Don't get me wrong, that's okay, I see nothing bad in having hundreds of 
packages ready to be updated, it was just an aside note from my part :-)
  
>> It was removed... Maybe because the packages are depretacted in
>> GNOME3+gnome-shell.
>> 
>> > Odd. Also annoying.
>> 
>> You should still see the volume icon visible at the top bar.
> 
> Yes, but what about the actual functionality of gnome-volume-manager,
> like, oh, setting the volume of specific devices or seeing which device
> is linked to which program?

"pavucontrol", I guess.

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Re: Ubuntuone Package

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 07:33:33 -0500, Stephen Allen wrote:

> Any chance that this package will be included in the Debian archive?

There is an ITP (Intent To Package, IIRC) bug already opened:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=559752

> Tried to install it but ran into dependency hell and in the end realized
> that I wasn't going to be able to install it.
> 
> I had found an e-mail from one of the Ubuntu packagers from some time
> back indicating that he was going to try to get this included in Debian,
> due to the problems of installing the Ubuntu package on a Debian
> installation.
> 
> Comments?

If you're hurry and cannot wait for the package to be available in Debian 
here there are some links that can help you to deal with the Ubuntu's 
package installation:

Is running Ubuntu One on Debian 'possible'?
http://askubuntu.com/questions/10271/is-running-ubuntu-one-on-debian-possible

Howto: Ubuntu One in Debian Wheezy
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=63310

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Re: gnome-volume-manager gone?

[Carl Fink]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 02:31:45PM +, Camale?n wrote:
> On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:41:13 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:
> 
> > Has anyone else experienced this? I updated my wheezy-running netbook
> > today (over 200 packages), 
> 
> Wow, that's too many packages, maybe because you did not run updates on 
> regular intervals :-?

I don't even power up the netbook every week. Or every month. I sure hope
Debian doesn't require me to power up a device just to update it regularly.

I leave on a trip today, so I was getting everything prepped.
 
> It was removed... Maybe because the packages are depretacted in 
> GNOME3+gnome-shell.
> 
> > Odd. Also annoying.
> 
> You should still see the volume icon visible at the top bar.

Yes, but what about the actual functionality of gnome-volume-manager, like,
oh, setting the volume of specific devices or seeing which device is linked
to which program?
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Re: How to fix the ELF class issue

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 13:53:46 +0800, lina wrote:

> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class:
> ELFCLASS64 Failed to load module:
> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so
> 
> (acroread-en:16443): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead

I guess this happens when you run acrobat reader from command line, right?

> $ readelf -h /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so ELF
> Header:
>   Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 02 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Class:   
>ELF64
> 
> $ readelf -h /usr/lib64/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so ELF
> Header:
>   Magic:   7f 45 4c 46 02 01 01 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 Class:   
>ELF64

The program is looking for a 32-bits library and found none. Maybe you 
need the compat lib32- package... but first, where did you get the 
acrobat package, what version did you install (32/64-bits) and what's 
your system running (32/64-bits flavour)?

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Re: Wheezy with Xfce4 --- problems with 3.0.0-1-amd64 kernel

[Lorenzo Sutton]

On 17/11/11 15:31, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:

Hola!

I just got to reinstall debiann vause my harddisk fried. I wanted to
use the opportunity to change from gnome
to Xfce4. This worked well when I installed stable, but when upgrading
to wheezy the problems arrived.

First some output from lspci:

VGA compatible controller : nVidia corporation C51 [GeForce Go 6150] (rev a2)


I have a different chipset (9200M GS), and...



So i tried to install the nVidia drivers, but that does mot seem to work.

When booting, tye kernel 3.0.0-1-amd64 boots, but the X window system
(with GDM3) do not start.


...I'm using SLIM... but:

Install worked for me following this simple procedure [1] (self-made 
memo) while the one explained on the debian Wiki failed.


Hope this helps.

Good look,
Lorenzo.

[1] http://pastie.org/2878413


I can work with the 2.6.32-5-amd64 kernel, though the Xfce desktop has
some problems --- the panel line at foot of the monitor do not show,
neither do the machine find the wireless network (I installed wicd).

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Re: gnome-volume-manager gone?

[Camaleón]

On Fri, 18 Nov 2011 00:41:13 -0500, Carl Fink wrote:

> Has anyone else experienced this? I updated my wheezy-running netbook
> today (over 200 packages), 

Wow, that's too many packages, maybe because you did not run updates on 
regular intervals :-?

> and afterwards gnome-volume-manager and
> gnome-volume-manager-applet are nonexistent, even if I reinstall
> gnome-media.

http://packages.qa.debian.org/g/gnome-volume-manager/news/20110318T163916Z.html

It was removed... Maybe because the packages are depretacted in 
GNOME3+gnome-shell.

> Odd. Also annoying.

You should still see the volume icon visible at the top bar.

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Re: Xfce: File browser

[Selim T. Erdogan]

Ralf Mardorf, 18.11.2011:
> 
> IMO it's hard enough that there isn't a confidential, comfortable shred
> option even for the command line, at least the DE should delete (rm -r)
> files and directories instead of moving them.
> Or is there a shred option working for journaled FS and that perhaps
> enables to delete directories directly too?

Have a look at the secure-delete package.  I've used srm in the past.

(BTW, it has options to tell it how many times to overwrite data.  If 
you choose high values it'll take a REAALLY LOONG time.)


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Re: Xfce: File browser

[SM]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:22:22PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> When deleting files or directories with Thunar's right-click delete
> option, those files will be moved to the wastebasket.

Lot of DE's understand pressing Shift-Delete after you've selected the
files/folders as "delete permanently". At least GNOME does, so you
could try that if it works.

> I'm not a wastebasket user, I prefer that files are deleted, when I
> deleted them, since this is the reason to delete a file. It's annoying
> to 'file browse to the wastebasket' and to delete the contend of this
> 'folder'.

A PITA, yes.

> Or is there a shred option working for journaled FS and that perhaps
> enables to delete directories directly too?

Not that I know of.

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Ubuntuone Package

[Stephen Allen]

Good morning;

Any chance that this package will be included in the Debian archive?

Tried to install it but ran into dependency hell and in the end realized
that I wasn't going to be able to install it.

I had found an e-mail from one of the Ubuntu packagers from some time back
indicating that he was going to try to get this included in Debian, due to the
problems of installing the Ubuntu package on a Debian installation.

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Re: Xfce: File browser

[SM]

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 12:22:22PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> When deleting files or directories with Thunar's right-click delete
> option, those files will be moved to the wastebasket.

Lot of DE's understand pressing Shift-Delete after you've selected the
files/folders as "delete permanently". At least GNOME does, so you
could try that if it works.

> I'm not a wastebasket user, I prefer that files are deleted, when I
> deleted them, since this is the reason to delete a file. It's annoying
> to 'file browse to the wastebasket' and to delete the contend of this
> 'folder'.

A PITA, yes.

> Or is there a shred option working for journaled FS and that perhaps
> enables to delete directories directly too?

Not that I know of.

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Re: Xfce: 2 + 1 questions

[Andrei Popescu]

On Vi, 18 nov 11, 11:56:09, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 1.
> 
> The cpufreq information plugin for the Xfce4 panel,
> xfce4-cpufreq-plugin, doesn't enable to switch from ondemand to
> performance.
> How can I get this feature working?

Is this supported or you just want it?
 
> 2.
> 
> For a panel and for 'Applications > Office > Evolution' it's launched by
> evolution --force-online. The Xfce applications menu additionally
> includes a launcher on top of the menu. Unfortunately this launcher will
> start Evolution without --force-online, so there'll be no connection to
> the network. This is caused by the upgrade from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3.
> 
> Where can I edit those additional entries?

I don't understand what you mean. Do you want to edit the menu entry or 
some additional launcher you added somewhere?

> 3.
> 
> This issue isn't Xfce related, it's also an issue for GNOME 2 and GNOME
> 3.
> I'm using en for my system only, not my native language de, but I'm
> using a de keyboard and I prefer local settings, such as C°, km, m.
> 
> For Debian and Ubuntu the "," at the Num keyboard is a "," but it should
> be "translated" to ".", for Suse this does work by default.
> When using gcalctool it's needed that the "," for the Num keyboard only
> is converted to a ".", for the Qwert... part of the keyboard the ","
> should be a "," and the "." should be a ".".
> 
> Where can I edit this setting?

For the keyboard:

dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration

and chose "de" as your layout.

For the other settings I've had success in the past with setting the 
correct locale (de_DE.UTF-8 in you case) and then exporting

LANGUAGE=english

for example in ~/.profile

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Re: Wheezy with Xfce4 --- problems with 3.0.0-1-amd64 kernel

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2011-11-17 at 16:56 -0600, Kjetil brinchmann Halvorsen wrote:
> To repeat: My card is GeForce G0 6150, whgich is among the cards the
> novaou driver shold work for!

Kjetil test another driver, it's not unusual that nouveau fails.

YMMV.

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Xfce: 2 + 1 questions

[Ralf Mardorf]

Hi :)

now I prefer Xfce to GNOME 2 and GNOME 3. Excepted of some thingies I'm
missing for Xfce, it's easier and better to configure. 'Better' since it
has advantages for my workflow.

Anyway, here are 2 + 1 additional issues.

1.

The cpufreq information plugin for the Xfce4 panel,
xfce4-cpufreq-plugin, doesn't enable to switch from ondemand to
performance.
How can I get this feature working?

2.

For a panel and for 'Applications > Office > Evolution' it's launched by
evolution --force-online. The Xfce applications menu additionally
includes a launcher on top of the menu. Unfortunately this launcher will
start Evolution without --force-online, so there'll be no connection to
the network. This is caused by the upgrade from GNOME 2 to GNOME 3.

Where can I edit those additional entries?

3.

This issue isn't Xfce related, it's also an issue for GNOME 2 and GNOME
3.
I'm using en for my system only, not my native language de, but I'm
using a de keyboard and I prefer local settings, such as C°, km, m.

For Debian and Ubuntu the "," at the Num keyboard is a "," but it should
be "translated" to ".", for Suse this does work by default.
When using gcalctool it's needed that the "," for the Num keyboard only
is converted to a ".", for the Qwert... part of the keyboard the ","
should be a "," and the "." should be a ".".

Where can I edit this setting?

Any hints are welcome!

Ralf


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Xfce: File browser

[Ralf Mardorf]

When deleting files or directories with Thunar's right-click delete
option, those files will be moved to the wastebasket.

I'm not a wastebasket user, I prefer that files are deleted, when I
deleted them, since this is the reason to delete a file. It's annoying
to 'file browse to the wastebasket' and to delete the contend of this
'folder'.

OT:
IMO it's hard enough that there isn't a confidential, comfortable shred
option even for the command line, at least the DE should delete (rm -r)
files and directories instead of moving them.
Or is there a shred option working for journaled FS and that perhaps
enables to delete directories directly too?

- Ralf


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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[i]

According to my experience, editing /etc/default/locale should work.
I did restart my laptop and found that the line "export
LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8" didn't work.
However, when I switched to root, and run locale -a, the output became
normal. To confirm that, I run set | grep LC_CTYPE. It is true that
LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8.
My root account uses bash, and my account uses zsh as default sh. I guess
it's the problem of my zsh.
But I still don't know the solution.

On Fri, Nov 18, 2011 at 7:19 PM, i  wrote:

> dpkg-reconfigure locales is not meticulous enough. That's the reason why I
> want to set the default locale by myself.
>
>
>
>
> 2011/11/18 Marlon Nunes 
>
>> do a: dpkg-reconfigure locales
>> choose your default locale and that's it.
>> reboot.
>>
>> Em 18-11-2011 02:11, shiyao ma escreveu:
>>
>>> I am now using Debian/Sid with display manager lightdm and desktop
>>> manager xfce4.
>>> I used to edit /etc/environment and add export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8.
>>> Now It doesn't work.
>>> When I have logged into XFCE4, the output of locale -a is
>>> LC_CTYE=en_US.UTF-8
>>> Later, I edited /etc/default/locale, adding one line: export
>>> LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8. However, the locale is still LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8.
>>> I also did that in /etc/profile, and  failed either.
>>>
>>> I am now curious about the way the system source *.sh in the boot up
>>> session.
>>> My question is :What's the proper way of setting LC_CTYPE?
>>> (Plus, if I add export LC_ALL=zh_CN.UTF-8 in /etc/default/locale, it
>>> will work, but this is not what I want. Further more, I think the file
>>> /etc/default/locale shouldn't be edited, as it is generated by the
>>> software and maybe overwritten.)
>>>
>>> Thanks.
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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[i]

dpkg-reconfigure locales is not meticulous enough. That's the reason why I
want to set the default locale by myself.



2011/11/18 Marlon Nunes 

> do a: dpkg-reconfigure locales
> choose your default locale and that's it.
> reboot.
>
> Em 18-11-2011 02:11, shiyao ma escreveu:
>
>> I am now using Debian/Sid with display manager lightdm and desktop
>> manager xfce4.
>> I used to edit /etc/environment and add export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8.
>> Now It doesn't work.
>> When I have logged into XFCE4, the output of locale -a is
>> LC_CTYE=en_US.UTF-8
>> Later, I edited /etc/default/locale, adding one line: export
>> LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8. However, the locale is still LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8.
>> I also did that in /etc/profile, and  failed either.
>>
>> I am now curious about the way the system source *.sh in the boot up
>> session.
>> My question is :What's the proper way of setting LC_CTYPE?
>> (Plus, if I add export LC_ALL=zh_CN.UTF-8 in /etc/default/locale, it
>> will work, but this is not what I want. Further more, I think the file
>> /etc/default/locale shouldn't be edited, as it is generated by the
>> software and maybe overwritten.)
>>
>> Thanks.
>> --
>> My gpg pubring is available via: gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net
>>  --recv-keys 307CF736
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>> More on: http://about.me/introom
>>
>>
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Re: Hi, how to change the LC_CTYPE?

[Marlon Nunes]

do a: dpkg-reconfigure locales
choose your default locale and that's it.
reboot.

Em 18-11-2011 02:11, shiyao ma escreveu:

I am now using Debian/Sid with display manager lightdm and desktop
manager xfce4.
I used to edit /etc/environment and add export LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8.
Now It doesn't work.
When I have logged into XFCE4, the output of locale -a is
LC_CTYE=en_US.UTF-8
Later, I edited /etc/default/locale, adding one line: export
LC_CTYPE=zh_CN.UTF-8. However, the locale is still LC_CTYPE=en_US.UTF-8.
I also did that in /etc/profile, and  failed either.

I am now curious about the way the system source *.sh in the boot up
session.
My question is :What's the proper way of setting LC_CTYPE?
(Plus, if I add export LC_ALL=zh_CN.UTF-8 in /etc/default/locale, it
will work, but this is not what I want. Further more, I think the file
/etc/default/locale shouldn't be edited, as it is generated by the
software and maybe overwritten.)

Thanks.
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Re: debian 6.03 KDE desktop

[Johan Scheepers]

On 17/11/2011 16:27, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 17 Nov 2011 15:57:37 +0200, Johan Scheepers wrote:

   

Running Gnome desktop debian 6.03.

Kindly is there a command to add the KDE desktop to a Gnome system.

I remember that in Ubuntu there is such a command.

On boot up you have a choice to go either way.

I have googled but could not get a clear instruction.

Some pointers please.
 

There is a good FAQ here:

Install KDE 4 packages
http://pkg-kde.alioth.debian.org/kde4.html

Greetings,

   

Thanks Camaleon,

Will install on my test disc and see what happens.
Regards
Johan


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