Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Andreas Weber
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?

No, it's not. Only if you always work on your own hardware. But as soon
as you have to touch different machines ... QWERT is everywhere (like vi
on *nix machines).

Learn to type properly and use a Natural 4000 M$ Keyboard is my
suggestion. And don't overtrain in the beginning, learn to type as if
you would learn to run a marathon. It'll take some time, your body has
to adapt first.

Just my 2c.


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gnome 3 not loading

2012-01-10 Thread mond
Hi Debian Community,

Since the update of gnome3, I can only log in (from gdm3) gnome
classic which is essentially just gnome2. I can run gnome-shell (with
replace option) in gnome classic. If I choose to log in gnome3, the
system freeze at showing the wall paper, no panels, no alt+F1, the cpu
or memory usage remains normal though.

Is there any log files I can check in order to locate the problem?

Thanks & Regards,

Mond


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Re: Which development and image libraries needed to build emacs-24

2012-01-10 Thread Harry Putnam
Michael Heerdegen  writes:

> Hello Harry,
>
> just for the case you didn't know this: there is also an emacs-snapshot
> package for Debian, here:
>
>   http://emacs.naquadah.org/

Thanks... good to know.


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Re: debian-boot and usb keyboards

2012-01-10 Thread hvw59601

Jude DaShiell wrote:
on both squeeze and wheezy I tried them on an amd computr that got its 
ps/2 port broken but still has usb ports available.  That does not work.  




Works here with Wheezy.

Hugo


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Re: Laptop fan doesn't stop

2012-01-10 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time, amt.

You wrote:
>Hello, running Debian Squeeze 6.0.3 amd64 on a DELL laptop and I have
>a problem with the fan. When it boots up, the fan is really silent but
>after a few of minutes it starts working and doesn't stop at all. I
>didn't had this problem when I was running a debian based distro.(it
>would start really slient, then work for a while, then go back silent
>and so on).
>
>
>Is there a fix to make my fan more responsive?

Yes. Look toward thiese utilities:

cpufrequtils
loadcpufreq
fancontrol

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debian-boot and usb keyboards

2012-01-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
on both squeeze and wheezy I tried them on an amd computr that got its 
ps/2 port broken but still has usb ports available.  That does not work.  
I also need speakup running for the install so ended up installing 
slackware 13.0 which strangely has no such problems just to get access to 
the internet and files archived on it or I'd be off for at least another 
month.


Jude 



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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 08:01:17PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:21:24PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:35:58PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:25 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > > >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:58:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > > 
> > > (...)
> > > 
> > > >> Okay, at this point, I am getting different errors. I think I resolved
> Crikey...
> 
> I uninstalled postfix, dovecot, reinstalled, and went through the whole 
> tutorial again.
> Now, I think the hostname issues are all resolved, but I still can't 
> send/receive mail.

Or not.

My certificate says it is from
vulcan.linode.com
I don't know where it is getting this.
I have my hostname set to 
vulcan
hostname -f gives
tonybaldwin.org

When I configured postfix, I gave it tonybaldwin.org
tonybaldwin.org is what shows in my main.cf
I do know understand why anything says vulcan.linode.com

> If I send mail from an external acct., I get no bounce or error or nothing,b
> but nothing shows up on my mail server.
> 
> If I try to send out, I just get 
> failed to connect to tonybaldwin.org, connection refused.
> 
> I notice that when I do 
> telnet localhost 25
> I get
> ehlo localhost
> 250-tonybaldwin.org Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet 
> you
> 250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
> 250-PIPELINING
> 250-EXPN
> 250-VERB
> 250-8BITMIME
> 250-SIZE
> 250-DSN
> 250-ETRN
> 250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
> 250-DELIVERBY
> 250 HELP
> 
> There is no 250-STARTTLS
> which I had the first time around (when sasl auth kept failing).
> 
> I'm totally at a loss and confused here.
> 
> in tail /var/log/mail.err I see
> Jan 10 19:36:27 vulcan sm-mta[11947]: q0B0aRM6011947: SYSERR(root): collect: 
> Cannot write ./dfq0B0aRM6011947 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=113): No such file or 
> directory
> Jan 10 19:40:37 vulcan postfix/master[12135]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: 
> Address already in use
> Jan 10 19:41:17 vulcan postfix/master[12307]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: 
> Address already in use
> Jan 10 19:49:49 vulcan sm-mta[12666]: q0B0nnkM012666: SYSERR(root): collect: 
> Cannot write ./dfq0B0nnkM012666 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=113): No such file or 
> directory
> Jan 10 19:54:56 vulcan postfix/master[12824]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: 
> Address already in use
> 
> I don't know what could be using port 25, 
> nor what this "Cannot write ./dfwhatever" is all about.
> 
> tail /var/log/mail.log shows
> Jan 10 19:55:01 vulcan dovecot: Dovecot v1.2.15 starting up (core dumps 
> disabled)
> Jan 10 19:55:01 vulcan dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to 
> 127.0.0.1 (mail)
> Jan 10 19:55:12 vulcan sm-mta[12855]: q0B0t5oM012855: localhost.localdomain 
> [127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA-v4
> Jan 10 19:55:45 vulcan dovecot: imap-login: Login: 
> user=, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, 
> secured
> Jan 10 19:55:45 vulcan dovecot: IMAP(t...@tonybaldwin.org): Disconnected: 
> Logged out bytes=85/681
> Jan 10 19:59:29 vulcan dovecot: imap-login: Login: 
> user=, method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, 
> secured
> Jan 10 19:59:29 vulcan dovecot: IMAP(t...@tonybaldwin.org): Disconnected: 
> Logged out bytes=85/681
> 
> I think that looks good, no?
> I can connect to imap.
> just not smtp?
> 
> ./tony
> 
> -- 
> http://www.tonybaldwin.me
> all tony, all the time
> 
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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:21:24PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:35:58PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:25 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > 
> > > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:58:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > 
> > (...)
> > 
> > >> Okay, at this point, I am getting different errors. I think I resolved
Crikey...

I uninstalled postfix, dovecot, reinstalled, and went through the whole 
tutorial again.
Now, I think the hostname issues are all resolved, but I still can't 
send/receive mail.
If I send mail from an external acct., I get no bounce or error or nothing,b
but nothing shows up on my mail server.

If I try to send out, I just get 
failed to connect to tonybaldwin.org, connection refused.

I notice that when I do 
telnet localhost 25
I get
ehlo localhost
250-tonybaldwin.org Hello localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1], pleased to meet you
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-PIPELINING
250-EXPN
250-VERB
250-8BITMIME
250-SIZE
250-DSN
250-ETRN
250-AUTH DIGEST-MD5 CRAM-MD5
250-DELIVERBY
250 HELP

There is no 250-STARTTLS
which I had the first time around (when sasl auth kept failing).

I'm totally at a loss and confused here.

in tail /var/log/mail.err I see
Jan 10 19:36:27 vulcan sm-mta[11947]: q0B0aRM6011947: SYSERR(root): collect: 
Cannot write ./dfq0B0aRM6011947 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=113): No such file or 
directory
Jan 10 19:40:37 vulcan postfix/master[12135]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: 
Address already in use
Jan 10 19:41:17 vulcan postfix/master[12307]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: 
Address already in use
Jan 10 19:49:49 vulcan sm-mta[12666]: q0B0nnkM012666: SYSERR(root): collect: 
Cannot write ./dfq0B0nnkM012666 (bfcommit, uid=0, gid=113): No such file or 
directory
Jan 10 19:54:56 vulcan postfix/master[12824]: fatal: bind 0.0.0.0 port 25: 
Address already in use

I don't know what could be using port 25, 
nor what this "Cannot write ./dfwhatever" is all about.

tail /var/log/mail.log shows
Jan 10 19:55:01 vulcan dovecot: Dovecot v1.2.15 starting up (core dumps 
disabled)
Jan 10 19:55:01 vulcan dovecot: auth-worker(default): mysql: Connected to 
127.0.0.1 (mail)
Jan 10 19:55:12 vulcan sm-mta[12855]: q0B0t5oM012855: localhost.localdomain 
[127.0.0.1] did not issue MAIL/EXPN/VRFY/ETRN during connection to MTA-v4
Jan 10 19:55:45 vulcan dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=, 
method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Jan 10 19:55:45 vulcan dovecot: IMAP(t...@tonybaldwin.org): Disconnected: 
Logged out bytes=85/681
Jan 10 19:59:29 vulcan dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=, 
method=PLAIN, rip=127.0.0.1, lip=127.0.0.1, secured
Jan 10 19:59:29 vulcan dovecot: IMAP(t...@tonybaldwin.org): Disconnected: 
Logged out bytes=85/681

I think that looks good, no?
I can connect to imap.
just not smtp?

./tony

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Weaver

> On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
> Dotan Cohen  wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi  wrote:
>> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
>> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing
>> keyboard

>From investigations so far.
Advice from Daskeyboards support:

"Thanks for your interest in Das Keyboard!

The physical key caps cannot be rearranged into the Dvorak layout because
each row has a different height and curvature, so keys on the QWERTY row
would not feel right when mixed with keys on the ASDF or ZXCV rows. The
keyboard can be used in Dvorak when you change the settings in your
computer, but the keys themselves can't be rearranged without it feeling
"wrong" to your fingers.

I hope this helps. Please let me know if you have any other questions".

Regards,

Weaver.
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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Sun, 8 Jan 2012 11:06:48 +0200
Dotan Cohen  wrote:

> On Fri, Jan 6, 2012 at 21:37, Lisi  wrote:
> > On Friday 06 January 2012 18:44:22 Raf Czlonka wrote:
> >> What's wrong with simply re-arrange the keys on your existing keyboard
> >
> > How do you do that?  I know that there used to be IBM keyboards on
> > which you could rearrange the keys, but I do not know of any modern
> > equivalent.
> >
> 
> The physical keys do not need to be changed, just the keycaps. Every
> consumer keyboard can have the keycaps removed and replaced. I am a
> keyboard affectionado, I am currently typing on a Cherry Brown
> keyboard that I personally rearranged the keycaps on from Qwerty to
> Colemak. Photos upon request.
> 
> If you need advice for removing and reinstalling the keycaps I can help.
> 
> 

Pics please.  How do you find the browns?  Using blues right now and I feel
that they're weak, not enough force to make them actuate.


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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Dan Serban
On Mon, 9 Jan 2012 17:35:52 +
Anthony Campbell  wrote:

> On 06 Jan 2012, Dan Serban wrote:
> > On Fri, 6 Jan 2012 09:39:03 -0800
> > "Weaver"  wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello all.
> > > I've been interested in this subject for some time, because of the
> > > greater typing speed potential and lowr incidence of RSI and have
> > > even delayed moving from two finger typing with an idea of
> > > implementing a Dvorak keyboard into the system.
> > 
> > While I don't want to start a flame war, I'd suggest having a look at
> > the colemak layout as well.  This has some advantages (I feel) over
> > Dvorak. Then again, it may all boil down to personal preference.
> > 
> > http://colemak.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> That site is down at present.
> 
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?
> 
> 

Well, I hope the site has become available to you again since the original
message.  There, you can see the layout that colemak provides, it's close
to Qwerty and provides some pros (maybe some cons) to the layout.  While I
do admit that it is quite aggravating to learn a new layout; IMHO it has
paid off for me. I've learned to effectively touch type, and I feel that
my comfort level is certainly higher. I've never been a speedy typer so I
cannot add that to the advantages. Though I do find that I make much fewer
mistakes and my fingers definitely do not travel as far as I felt that they
used to using Qwerty.

I suggest you print out whatever layout you ever decide to go
with, if you so decide.. then at least you will be able to enter your
passwords without too much frustration.

If you feel that you have reasons to switch I suggest you give it a shot,
otherwise, don't simply add a layer of frustration to your daily routine
until you are convinced this is the way to go.


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Re: Network not working on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-01-10 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Wed, 11 Jan 2012 00:01:16 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Ma, 10 ian 12, 16:22:10, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> 
>> You wrote in your first answer I should update to the newest kernel. At
>> the moment is 2.6.32-5-amd64 installed. How can I do that without a
>> network connection?
> 
> USB sticks can be very handy in such cases. It would also be useful if
> you could attach some bigger informations:
> 
> ifconfig -a
> dmesg

What kind of usb stick do you mean?
Can i copy the package to a stick?
Or do you mean an ethernet usb stick?

I addes the eth0 part to interfaces.
Before ifconfig only showed lo.

/etc/network/interfaces http://pastebin.com/k3TMRRcZ

ifconfig -a http://pastebin.com/Zc7dzzva

dmesg http://pastebin.com/sBtbX2T7


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: help with LUKS header backup

2012-01-10 Thread yudi v
>
> Yes, I am using this regularly. Backing up the headers to encrypted media
> (two preferably) is good practice, even if one can foresee a bit off a
> circle here ;-) . Header backups are easier to break than original LUKS
> container.
>
>

there is only one LUKS header on a disk, right?
I have LVM on top of LUKS. Therefore only one partition with is LUKS encrypted.
What happens when LUKS is on top of LVM. There will be several
partitions, will there also be several header files. One for each LUKS
partition or is it just one header for all LUKS partitions?


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Laptop fan doesn't stop

2012-01-10 Thread amt
Hello, running Debian Squeeze 6.0.3 amd64 on a DELL laptop and I have
a problem with the fan. When it boots up, the fan is really silent but
after a few of minutes it starts working and doesn't stop at all. I
didn't had this problem when I was running a debian based distro.(it
would start really slient, then work for a while, then go back silent
and so on).


Is there a fix to make my fan more responsive?




Thanks in advance!


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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread amt
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:26 PM, Balint Szigeti  wrote:
> On 10/01/2012 18:12, amt wrote:
>>
>> I did what you said in your reply and it works like a charm. Thank you
>> so very much!
>>
>>
> what  was the solution?

The solution was adding:
 deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free
 deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian squeeze main contrib non-free

to  /etc/apt/sources.list


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Re: No sound after purged some gnome packages

2012-01-10 Thread Arno Schuring
Csanyi Pal (csanyi...@gmail.com on 2012-01-10 18:05 +0100):
> Hi,
> 
> I have problem with sound. Can't hear anything except PC speaker's
> beep. This PC Speaker is in the PC Box and is small. :)
> 
[..]
> Aplay can't find any soundcard.
> aplay -l
> aplay: device_list:242: no soundcards found...
[..]
> What I did is that that I just purged almost all gnome packages from
> my Debian SID and maybe purged some essential packages for sound.
> 

Smart money's on a missing alsa-base package.

To be more thorough:

- Is alsa-base still installed?
- Are you still a member of the audio group?
- What are the permissions on /dev/dsp and /dev/mixer?

What is the output of:
$ lsmod | grep snd
$ cat /proc/asound/cards


Regards,
Arno


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Re: how to force dhcp server to update modified info at client side ?

2012-01-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 10/01/12 23:23, J. Bakshi wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have two different gateway. 

Where? On the same box as the dhcp server?
Please supply some basic information about your network - eg, routing,
servers, gateways, subnets, and the *reason*/mechanism that gateways
change, client OS and config.

>From the information supplied your network may consist of two boxes.

> One of the gateway has been defined at dhcpd3.conf file.
> Now if I change the gateway at dhcpd3.conf and restart the isc server; the 
> client still
> hold the old gateway. How can I force the isc server to immediately inform 
> the client
> about this change ?

Easy - but, um, not practical. You would need to make the "client" query
the server at ludicrous intervals by using 1 second leases. Your
proposed solution is based on the flawed premise that the "client" is
always listening for updates from the server.

> 
> Thanks
> 
> 

Would you settle for alternative ways to achieve the desired outcome?

If you can supply more information a suitable method can be proposed.


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Re: ext4 extends implementation question

2012-01-10 Thread Arno Schuring
afuentes (alberto.fuen...@qindel.com on 2012-01-10 10:33 +0100):
> What happens when you run out of space to allocate new extends in
> ext4? is not allowed to write anymore even tho there are tons of
> blocks available?

I'm unsure what you mean. Extents is only an optimization strategy for
allocating contiguous blocks. If there are no contiguous blocks, ext4
falls back to allocating singular blocks, but with normal usage
patterns you should never get "tons of blocks available" with none of
them contiguous.

At least, that's how I understand it. Are you getting allocation
failures with still plenty of space available?


Regards,
Arno


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Re: Ufter upgrade Debian SID something wrong with sound - PulseAudio

2012-01-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/01/12 02:21, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Scott Ferguson  writes:
> 
>> On 09/01/12 21:17, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>>> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>>>
 On 09/01/12 20:27, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>
>> On 09/01/12 02:34, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>>> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>>>
 On 08/01/12 22:27, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>
>> On 08/01/12 04:43, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>>> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>>>
 On 07/01/12 07:28, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> I suspect you need to find what is being called by the volume control 
>> keybinding. 
> 
> Sorry, I'm a fraid I can't understand this sentence abowe (sorry, my
> English is far from perfect. Can you explain what is 'volume control
> keybinding'? 
> 

Please correct me if I've misunderstood (I don't run Gnome or
WindowMaker) - it's my understanding that you control the sound volume
using dedicated keys on your keyboard *instead* of pavucontrol.

If that is the case - it seems that pulseaudio is *not* being being used
to change the volume.
As pulseaudio *does* control the volume of Skype it would mean that the
volume for some applications becomes louder - while Skype remain the
same volume. This would result in Skype being "relatively" quiet
compared to other sound applications.

How (what do you click, push, twist, or turn) usually change the volume?


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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 09:35:58PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:25 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> > On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> >> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:58:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> 
> (...)
> 
> >> Okay, at this point, I am getting different errors. I think I resolved
> >> the sasl issue by correcting an error I had made in /etc/pam.d/smtpd
> >> 
> >> But, now, if I telnet to localhost 25, either the connection drops
> >> immediately, or anything I try to do (like elho localhost) hangs for a
> >> long time, and then, again, just dumps the connection without result.
> >> 
> >> Oddly, before correcting the error in /etc/pam.d/smtpd I would get
> >> expected results with
> >> telnet localhost 25
> >> ehlo localhost
> >> 
> >> (such as indication
> >> 250 - STARTTLS
> >> etc.
> >> )
> >> 
> >> but now, no joy...weird.
> 
> >> correct (I've redone it about 20 times now, too). I've gone over this
> >> whole tutorial like 20 times now. 
> 
> "dpkg --reconfigure postfix" will use your current "hostname" as the 
> default "myhostname" paramenter. Run "postconf -d | grep myhostname" to 
> get the current value.
> 
I did this again (dpgk-reconfigure postfix, not dpkg --reconfigure),
this is from tail /var/log/mail.err

Jan 10 15:28:27 vulcan postfix/smtpd[7515]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 16:45:37 vulcan postfix/smtpd[7714]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 17:12:57 vulcan postfix/smtpd[8180]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #

It's the only message I'm getting now.
I don't know where the unexpectec command-line argument is.
There is no /etc/postfix/smtpd
but, rather postfix/sasl/smtpd
and I've checked that against the tutorial, and it looks correct.
Should there be such a file in /etc/postfix/smtpd
not just in /etc/postfix/sasl/smtpd
?

> ***
> (none) postfix/smtpd[22358]: fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": 
> specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, 
> reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit

I think that was from last night, when, for some reason, there was a stray 
space in there:
reject  _unauth_destination (should have been without that space).

> 
> Well, in my Postfix I have commented:
> 
> #myorigin = /etc/mailname

after dpkg-reconfigure mine is like this.

> 
> Because I prefer to use:
> 
> myhostname = server.example.com
> 
> To do not mix the linux system hostname with Postfix e-mail service.
> 
> But I'd say the hostname is at this point irrelevant, the big error is 
> that Postfix service is exiting because of the above warning.

the fatal unexpected command-line arg...but where is that?

also, tail /var/log/mail.info shows
Jan 10 17:12:57 vulcan postfix/smtpd[8180]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 17:12:58 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: warning: process 
/usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 8180 exit status 1
Jan 10 17:12:58 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: 
bad command startup -- throttling
Jan 10 17:13:03 vulcan dovecot: IMAP(t...@tonybaldwin.org): Disconnected: 
Logged out bytes=519/1868

tail /var/log/mail.log gives
Jan 10 16:45:37 vulcan postfix/smtpd[7714]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 16:45:38 vulcan postfix/master[7492]: warning: process 
/usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 7714 exit status 1
Jan 10 16:45:38 vulcan postfix/master[7492]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: 
bad command startup -- throttling
Jan 10 17:10:49 vulcan postfix/master[7492]: terminating on signal 15
Jan 10 17:11:20 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: daemon started -- version 2.7.1, 
configuration /etc/postfix
Jan 10 17:11:49 vulcan dovecot: imap-login: Login: user=, 
method=PLAIN, rip=66.228.33.98, lip=66.228.33.98, TLS
Jan 10 17:12:57 vulcan postfix/smtpd[8180]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 17:12:58 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: warning: process 
/usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 8180 exit status 1
Jan 10 17:12:58 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: 
bad command startup -- throttling
Jan 10 17:13:03 vulcan dovecot: IMAP(t...@tonybaldwin.org): Disconnected: 
Logged out bytes=519/1868

and /var/log/mail.warn shows

Jan 10 16:45:37 vulcan postfix/smtpd[7714]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 16:45:38 vulcan postfix/master[7492]: warning: process 
/usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 7714 exit status 1
Jan 10 16:45:38 vulcan postfix/master[7492]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: 
bad command startup -- throttling
Jan 10 17:12:57 vulcan postfix/smtpd[8180]: fatal: unexpected command-line 
argument: #
Jan 10 17:12:58 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: warning: process 
/usr/lib/postfix/smtpd pid 8180 exit status 1
Jan 10 17:12:58 vulcan postfix/master[8143]: warning: /usr/lib/postfix/smtpd: 
bad command startup -- throttling



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Re: webcamera not working

2012-01-10 Thread Scott Ferguson
On 11/01/12 03:33, Andreas Berglund wrote:
> On 2012-01-10 00:45, Scott Ferguson wrote:
>> On 10/01/12 04:22, Andreas Berglund wrote:
>> 


> 
> Is paste.debian.org the correct address? dns wouldn't resolv for me.

My apologies.
That should have been paste.debian.*net* not paste.debian.*org*.

> I put the output here instead http://pastebin.com/Yfs4zL5T

Thanks.
Everything there looks as it should be - for the camera.

You appear to have a broken BIOS (which *shouldn't* affect the camera).
"Not enabling x2apic, Intr-remapping init failed."
I haven't experienced this issue - but there's at least one patch out
addressing it. See:-
http://lkml.org/lkml/2011/12/10/94


> 
> The result of ls /dev/video* is /dev/video0
> 
Then device creation is fine, and accords with dmesg.


It appears as if there isn't enough USB bandwidth for your device - try
it in other USB ports. Use:-
$ dmesg | tail -20 | grep ioctl
to see when you've found a USB bus that's not overloaded.

Test with:-
$ vlc v4l2:///dev/video0
because vlc "just works", and if it doesn't, it'll usually provide
instructive output.

NOTE: the Debian VLC, *not* the multimedia-debian VLC.

If, after trying all your USB ports you are still unable to solve the
problem, please post the output from the following commands (all run as
user):-

$ uname -a
$ vlc v4l2:///dev/video0
$ df -h



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Re: Network not working on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-01-10 Thread Andrei Popescu
On Ma, 10 ian 12, 16:22:10, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> 
> You wrote in your first answer I should update to the newest kernel. At 
> the moment is 2.6.32-5-amd64 installed.
> How can I do that without a network connection?

USB sticks can be very handy in such cases. It would also be useful if 
you could attach some bigger informations:

ifconfig -a
dmesg

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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:12:25 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:

> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:58:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

>> > Mmmm, my guess is that your are having problems (or at least "one" of
>> > the problems, the other can be indeed with saslauth :-) ) with the
>> > SSL certificate you have generated, described in this step of your
>> > guide¹.
>> > 
>> > To verify this point, test if your smtp is working fine (port 25, no
>> > SSL) and post here the results.
>> 
>> Okay, at this point, I am getting different errors. I think I resolved
>> the sasl issue by correcting an error I had made in /etc/pam.d/smtpd
>> 
>> But, now, if I telnet to localhost 25, either the connection drops
>> immediately, or anything I try to do (like elho localhost) hangs for a
>> long time, and then, again, just dumps the connection without result.
>> 
>> Oddly, before correcting the error in /etc/pam.d/smtpd I would get
>> expected results with
>> telnet localhost 25
>> ehlo localhost
>> 
>> (such as indication
>> 250 - STARTTLS
>> etc.
>> )
>> 
>> but now, no joy...weird.

What kind of change/correction did you do at the "/etc/pam.d/smtpd" file?

>> > Also, review your Postfix logs (omit sensitive data if you post them
>> > here), they're usually the best source for solving problems :-)
>> > 
>> > ¹http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_create-an-ssl-certificate-for-postfix
>> 
>> I was using precisely these instructions, and believe my cert is
>> correct (I've redone it about 20 times now, too). I've gone over this
>> whole tutorial like 20 times now. 

When generating the SSL cert you only have to care about the domain name, 
it has to match your current Postfix domain name to avoid "mismatching" 
warnings on the client side.

As stated in the guide:

***
Be sure to enter the fully qualified domain name you used for the system 
mailname in place of "server.example.com".
***

>> One thing:
>> Initially my fqdn was set at server.linode.com, because I had somehow
>> set it before my domain was resolving, or whatever. but I've changed it
>> (echo server.tonybaldwin.org > /etc/hostname, hostname -F
>> /etc/hostname), but when I've done dpkg --reconfigure postfix, it still
>> wants to do server.linode.com
>> and I fix that by hand in main.cf, and anywhere else I find it then
>> restart postfix.
>> This is the only thing odd I can identify.

"dpkg --reconfigure postfix" will use your current "hostname" as the 
default "myhostname" paramenter. Run "postconf -d | grep myhostname" to 
get the current value.

>> I pasted some of the errors from /var/log/mail.* here
>> http://tonybaldwin.me/paste/index.php?6

Hey, you have to correct that, it's a fatal error (Postfix quits).

***
(none) postfix/smtpd[22358]: fatal: parameter "smtpd_recipient_restrictions": 
specify at least one working instance of: check_relay_domains, 
reject_unauth_destination, reject, defer or defer_if_permit
***

Edit your "smtpd_recipient_restrictions" accordingly. Let's see:

smtpd_recipient_restrictions = permit_mynetworks, permit_sasl_authenticated, 
reject_unauth_destination
 
It seems right... check for trailing whitespaces and also for any collision 
with "/etc/postfif/master.cf" (variables have to be defined only at one place).

>> I could paste any of the relevant other files (etc/postfix/main.cf or
>> whatever) if it would help.
> 
> I went ahead and pasted my main.cf
> http://tonybaldwin.me/paste/index.php?5

Well, in my Postfix I have commented:

#myorigin = /etc/mailname

Because I prefer to use:

myhostname = server.example.com

To do not mix the linux system hostname with Postfix e-mail service.

But I'd say the hostname is at this point irrelevant, the big error is 
that Postfix service is exiting because of the above warning.

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Re: webcamera not working

2012-01-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:33:30PM +0100, Andreas Berglund wrote:
> On 2012-01-10 00:45, Scott Ferguson wrote:
> >On 10/01/12 04:22, Andreas Berglund wrote:
> >>Hi!
> >>I have a logitech c910, kernel 3.0.11 and debian version 6.0.3. The
> >>camera doesn't seem to work with uvcvideo driver, I get "v4l2: ioctl
> >>streamon failed: No space left on device"  no matter what program I use.
> >>I've tried switching the camera to different usb ports to get around the
> >>usb bus bandwith problem, but to no avail. It works under windows so
> >>it's not a hardware problem and I've read that this camera is supposed
> >>to work with the uvcvideo driver. Anyone got any ideas?
> >>
> >>regards
> >>Andreas Berglund
> >>
> >>
> >$ vlc v4l2://`ls /dev/video*`
> >
> >*If* that fails, please post the output of the following commands to
> >paste.debian.org and put the url of the paste into your reply:-
> >$ dmesg | grep -i 'warn\|fail\|error\|usb\|video'
> >$ ls /dev/video*
> 
> Is paste.debian.org the correct address? dns wouldn't resolv for me.
> I put the output here instead http://pastebin.com/Yfs4zL5T

A quick websearch ("paste debian") suggests it should have been .net,
rather than .org.


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Re: start-stop-daemon: stop several processes

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:52:21 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

> hvw59601 wrote:
>> Camaleón wrote:
>>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:13 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:
>>>
 There are 2 systems behind a Thomson TG585V8 router connected to the
 internet.

 Currently about once every halfhour the 'internet' LED on the router
 goes out (no internet connection) then goes red (internet connection
 failed) and goes green again. Takes 3-5 mins.

 On my desktop this is noticed by ddclient which sees a change in the
 external IP and behaves accordingly.

 Because I am interested in recording these events, like this:
>>>
>>> (...)
>>>
>>> JFYI, that crappy-saga of Thomson routers have an internal log
>>> facility which records such information. By accessing the router via
>>> telnet you can see, send or flush the logs :-)
>>>
>>>
>> Saw that! Like this:
>> 
>> <132> Jan 10 11:28:02 PPP link down (Internet) [189.188.139.94]
>> 
>> Corresponds to ddclient's
>> 
>> Tue Jan 10 11:30:05 2012 189.188.159.103 (226)
>> 
>> So the link was down for 3 minutes.

The usual reasons for ADSL line going down are:

1/ Long distance to the phone central (for ADSL2+ that's >1000 meters)

2/ Bad cabling inside your home

3/ Intermittent/sporadic errors coming from the ISP (you can monitor 
whether the drops are happening every day, at the same time...)

4/ The router. Zyxel's ones tend to be more stable and less prone to 
dropping the line when they detect any incosistency (eg., bad values for 
SN ratio, line attenuation...). You can check your current values from 
the web interface.

> Graphic of the link down events:
> http://debian-oaxaca.blogspot.com/2012/01/blog-post_10.html

Mmm, that's 6 times in 4 hours? Contact your provider.

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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Weaver

> Hi Weaver,
>
> If you are curious about keyboard layouts then you might really enjoy
> Dvorak. I have used Dvorak for about 8 years. It takes a while to get
> rolling, but it has definitely been worth it. I feel like typing is a
> much smoother activity now, and touch typing is easier.
>
> When I started out, I took old keyboards, popped off the keys,
> rearranged them, and used a software layout on the computer. That
> worked fine for a long time, and there was no expensive investment.
> Note that not all keyboards can be rearranged this way.
>
> More recently I bough I new clicky keyboard (mechanical switches) from
> Unicomp. These are like old IBM keyboards that are still in production
> in Kentucky USA.
>
> http://pckeyboard.com/
>
> The "Ultra Classic" is a good one that has all the modern control keys.
> These keyboards have an "old school" feel that some will appreciate.
>
> It's not clear on the website, but at checkout time you can pick what
> layout you want. I picked Dvorak, and lo and behold I received in the
> mail a HARDWARE Dvorak keyboard. That means I just plug it in and it
> works, no configuration needed. That also means I don't have to worry
> about the layout being wrong at boot time or at a grub prompt. Nice!
>
> On my laptop it was not feasible to rearrange the keys. I much prefer
> to have the keys properly labeled, so I used keyboard labels and that
> has worked well so far.
>
> There are lots of different ways to do Dvorak. The hardest
> part is getting over the "hump" of the learning curve.
>
> Rickard

Great!
Thanks for that.

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Re: Re: CUPS-PDF

2012-01-10 Thread Martin, Larry D
Thank you!  I am trying to learn a little about Linux in my spare time.

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Re: start-stop-daemon: stop several processes

2012-01-10 Thread hvw59601

hvw59601 wrote:

Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:13 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


There are 2 systems behind a Thomson TG585V8 router connected to the
internet.

Currently about once every halfhour the 'internet' LED on the router
goes out (no internet connection) then goes red (internet connection
failed) and goes green again. Takes 3-5 mins.

On my desktop this is noticed by ddclient which sees a change in the
external IP and behaves accordingly.

Because I am interested in recording these events, like this:


(...)

JFYI, that crappy-saga of Thomson routers have an internal log 
facility which records such information. By accessing the router via 
telnet you can see, send or flush the logs :-)




Saw that! Like this:

<132> Jan 10 11:28:02 PPP link down (Internet) [189.188.139.94]

Corresponds to ddclient's

Tue Jan 10 11:30:05 2012 189.188.159.103 (226)

So the link was down for 3 minutes.



Graphic of the link down events:
http://debian-oaxaca.blogspot.com/2012/01/blog-post_10.html

Hugo


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Re: Automount

2012-01-10 Thread Christian Dysthe
On 01/10/12 at 01:46pm, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 07:34:28PM +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> > Christian Dysthe  writes:
> > 
> > > On 01/10/12 at 06:36pm, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> > >> Christian Dysthe  writes:
> > >> 
> > >> > I've been running a relatively minimal desktop for years (Pekwm/hint2).
> > >> > I haven't had many devices to connect to my computer so I have mounted
> > >> > as needed. Over the last couple of years I've gathered devices I like 
> > >> > to
> > >> > connect to my computer like cameras, phones and a USB drive so I 
> > >> > thought
> > >> > it might be time to look into getting automount working. What's the
> > >> > easiest way to do this without running Gnome (or KDE)?
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm running Sid 
> > >> 
> > >> I have installed usbmount that automatically mount and unmount USB mass
> > >> storage devices.
> > >
> > > Will USB mount work with a phone and MicroSD cards in the card reader on
> > > the laptop? I've tested in Gnome and both mounts there.
> > 
> > I don't have any of them so I don't know. However, you can try.
> 
> I believe either thunar or pcmanfm (graphical file managers) come with all 
> that automount stuff preconfigured.
> so you could just aptitude install pcmanfm, or something, if you want a 
> graphical file manager to handle that.
> I'm not sure what other graphical bloat they're likely to bring with them.
> Thunar, iirc, is part of the XFCE desktop, but I don't think you need to 
> install xfce to use it.
> To my knowledge, they both use gtk.

Thanks. I found that I can start Thunar as a daemon which gives me automount.
I'm using MC for file management, but I guess I could use Thunar since it'll
be running at all times anyway doing automount for me.
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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread Balint Szigeti

On 10/01/2012 18:12, amt wrote:

I did what you said in your reply and it works like a charm. Thank you
so very much!



what  was the solution?


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Re: start-stop-daemon: stop several processes

2012-01-10 Thread hvw59601

Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:13 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:


There are 2 systems behind a Thomson TG585V8 router connected to the
internet.

Currently about once every halfhour the 'internet' LED on the router
goes out (no internet connection) then goes red (internet connection
failed) and goes green again. Takes 3-5 mins.

On my desktop this is noticed by ddclient which sees a change in the
external IP and behaves accordingly.

Because I am interested in recording these events, like this:


(...)

JFYI, that crappy-saga of Thomson routers have an internal log facility 
which records such information. By accessing the router via telnet you 
can see, send or flush the logs :-)




Saw that! Like this:

<132> Jan 10 11:28:02 PPP link down (Internet) [189.188.139.94]

Corresponds to ddclient's

Tue Jan 10 11:30:05 2012 189.188.159.103 (226)

So the link was down for 3 minutes.

Wonder if Telmex can tell me why their ppp link goes down?

Hugo


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Re: CUPS-PDF

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 13:02:50 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote:

(please, turn-off html...)

> Camaleón
> 
> 
> Thanks.  I went to the http interface and saw that they showed as
> completed.  However, they went to /root/PDF.  Can I direct the output
> somewhere else?

Did you sent the job to be printed as root user? 

By default, the path for the stored PDF is the user's home but yes, this 
can be changed. Read "file:///usr/share/doc/cups-pdf/README.Debian".

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Re: Automount

2012-01-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 07:34:28PM +0100, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Christian Dysthe  writes:
> 
> > On 01/10/12 at 06:36pm, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> >> Christian Dysthe  writes:
> >> 
> >> > I've been running a relatively minimal desktop for years (Pekwm/hint2).
> >> > I haven't had many devices to connect to my computer so I have mounted
> >> > as needed. Over the last couple of years I've gathered devices I like to
> >> > connect to my computer like cameras, phones and a USB drive so I thought
> >> > it might be time to look into getting automount working. What's the
> >> > easiest way to do this without running Gnome (or KDE)?
> >> >
> >> > I'm running Sid 
> >> 
> >> I have installed usbmount that automatically mount and unmount USB mass
> >> storage devices.
> >
> > Will USB mount work with a phone and MicroSD cards in the card reader on
> > the laptop? I've tested in Gnome and both mounts there.
> 
> I don't have any of them so I don't know. However, you can try.

I believe either thunar or pcmanfm (graphical file managers) come with all that 
automount stuff preconfigured.
so you could just aptitude install pcmanfm, or something, if you want a 
graphical file manager to handle that.
I'm not sure what other graphical bloat they're likely to bring with them.
Thunar, iirc, is part of the XFCE desktop, but I don't think you need to 
install xfce to use it.
To my knowledge, they both use gtk.

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Re: Automount

2012-01-10 Thread Csanyi Pal
Christian Dysthe  writes:

> On 01/10/12 at 06:36pm, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Christian Dysthe  writes:
>> 
>> > I've been running a relatively minimal desktop for years (Pekwm/hint2).
>> > I haven't had many devices to connect to my computer so I have mounted
>> > as needed. Over the last couple of years I've gathered devices I like to
>> > connect to my computer like cameras, phones and a USB drive so I thought
>> > it might be time to look into getting automount working. What's the
>> > easiest way to do this without running Gnome (or KDE)?
>> >
>> > I'm running Sid 
>> 
>> I have installed usbmount that automatically mount and unmount USB mass
>> storage devices.
>
> Will USB mount work with a phone and MicroSD cards in the card reader on
> the laptop? I've tested in Gnome and both mounts there.

I don't have any of them so I don't know. However, you can try.

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Re: Re: CUPS-PDF

2012-01-10 Thread SM
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:02:50PM -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote:
> Thanks.  I went to the http interface and saw that they showed as
> completed.  However, they went to /root/PDF.  Can I direct the
> output somewhere else?

Not print as root user?

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Re: Re: CUPS-PDF

2012-01-10 Thread Martin, Larry D
Camale�n


Thanks.  I went to the http interface and saw that they showed as completed.  
However, they went to /root/PDF.  Can I direct the output somewhere else?

Thanks again,..Larry

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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread amt
I did what you said in your reply and it works like a charm. Thank you
so very much!


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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 01:05:16PM -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:58:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> > On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:51:13 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> > 
> > > I followed directions here:
> > > http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_configure-saslauthd-to-use-mysql
> > > to set up postfix/dovecot to mail from my linode running squeeze.
> > > 
clippage
> > > 
> > > Any assistance will be appreciated.
> > 
> > Mmmm, my guess is that your are having problems (or at least "one" of the 
> > problems, the other can be indeed with saslauth :-) ) with the SSL 
> > certificate you have generated, described in this step of your guide¹.
> > 
> > To verify this point, test if your smtp is working fine (port 25, no SSL) 
> > and post here the results.
> 
> Okay, at this point, I am getting different errors.
> I think I resolved the sasl issue by correcting an error I had made in 
> /etc/pam.d/smtpd
> 
> But, now, if I telnet to localhost 25, either the connection drops 
> immediately, or
> anything I try to do (like elho localhost) hangs for a long time, and then, 
> again,
> just dumps the connection without result.
> 
> Oddly, before correcting the error in /etc/pam.d/smtpd
> I would get expected results with
> telnet localhost 25
> ehlo localhost
> 
> (such as indication
> 250 - STARTTLS
> etc.
> )
> 
> but now, no joy...weird.
> 
> > Also, review your Postfix logs (omit sensitive data if you post them here), 
> > they're usually the best source for solving problems :-)
> > 
> > ¹http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_create-an-ssl-certificate-for-postfix
> 
> I was using precisely these instructions, and believe my cert is correct 
> (I've redone it about 20 times now, too).
> I've gone over this whole tutorial like 20 times now.
> One thing: 
> Initially my fqdn was set at server.linode.com, because I had somehow set it 
> before my domain was resolving, or whatever.
> but I've changed it (echo server.tonybaldwin.org > /etc/hostname, hostname -F 
> /etc/hostname),
> but when I've done dpkg --reconfigure postfix, it still wants to do
> server.linode.com
> and I fix that by hand in main.cf, and anywhere else I find it
> then restart postfix.
> This is the only thing odd I can identify.
> 
> I pasted some of the errors from /var/log/mail.* here
> http://tonybaldwin.me/paste/index.php?6
> 
> I could paste any of the relevant other files (etc/postfix/main.cf or 
> whatever) if it would help.

I went ahead and pasted my main.cf
http://tonybaldwin.me/paste/index.php?5


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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 04:58:06PM +, Camaleón wrote:
> On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:51:13 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> 
> > I followed directions here:
> > http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_configure-saslauthd-to-use-mysql
> > to set up postfix/dovecot to mail from my linode running squeeze.
> > 
> > I can now, either on that server or from home, collect mail from my
> > domain with mutt, but when I try to send mail, I get a warning that the
> > certificate hostname doesn't match the server, and, even when choosing
> > (o) accept once // no (a) accept all option here //
> > I get
> > Sasl authentication failed.
> > 
> > The one thing that I question is this: hostname on the server gives me
> > $hostnamethatIassigned
> > hostname -f on that server gives me
> > $hostnamethatIassigned.linode.com
> > so this is what I put for the FDQN, according to the tutorial. But I've
> > set up mail for the domain
> > mail.tonybaldwin.org
> > 
> > imap is working, smtp is not
> > But this is the first ever I have tried to set up a mail server, so I'm
> > at a loss.
> > Should I have entered my own domain for the fdqn? I didn't think so,
> > since I set my domain in the virtualhost for postfix. But the
> > certificate/hostname not matching makes me question this.
> > 
> > Any assistance will be appreciated.
> 
> Mmmm, my guess is that your are having problems (or at least "one" of the 
> problems, the other can be indeed with saslauth :-) ) with the SSL 
> certificate you have generated, described in this step of your guide¹.
> 
> To verify this point, test if your smtp is working fine (port 25, no SSL) 
> and post here the results.

Okay, at this point, I am getting different errors.
I think I resolved the sasl issue by correcting an error I had made in 
/etc/pam.d/smtpd

But, now, if I telnet to localhost 25, either the connection drops immediately, 
or
anything I try to do (like elho localhost) hangs for a long time, and then, 
again,
just dumps the connection without result.

Oddly, before correcting the error in /etc/pam.d/smtpd
I would get expected results with
telnet localhost 25
ehlo localhost

(such as indication
250 - STARTTLS
etc.
)

but now, no joy...weird.

> Also, review your Postfix logs (omit sensitive data if you post them here), 
> they're usually the best source for solving problems :-)
> 
> ¹http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_create-an-ssl-certificate-for-postfix

I was using precisely these instructions, and believe my cert is correct (I've 
redone it about 20 times now, too).
I've gone over this whole tutorial like 20 times now.
One thing: 
Initially my fqdn was set at server.linode.com, because I had somehow set it 
before my domain was resolving, or whatever.
but I've changed it (echo server.tonybaldwin.org > /etc/hostname, hostname -F 
/etc/hostname),
but when I've done dpkg --reconfigure postfix, it still wants to do
server.linode.com
and I fix that by hand in main.cf, and anywhere else I find it
then restart postfix.
This is the only thing odd I can identify.

I pasted some of the errors from /var/log/mail.* here
http://tonybaldwin.me/paste/index.php?6

I could paste any of the relevant other files (etc/postfix/main.cf or whatever) 
if it would help.
Dovecot seems to be fine, I believe, so at this point, I do believe it's just 
something in postfix
(postfix handles the smtp, yes?)
Because i can connect with imap, just can't send/receive over smtp.
I have made like 3 dummy accts, and they can mail each other on the server with 
mailx,
then read that in mutt or squirrelmail over imap, but none can send or receive 
to/from the exterior.

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Re: how to force dhcp server to update modified info at client side ?

2012-01-10 Thread Karl E. Jørgensen

Hi


On 10/01/12 12:23, J. Bakshi wrote:


Hello,

I have two different gateway. One of the gateway has been defined at 
dhcpd3.conf file.
Now if I change the gateway at dhcpd3.conf and restart the isc server; the 
client still
hold the old gateway. How can I force the isc server to immediately inform the 
client
about this change ?
   


In the DHCP protocol there is no facility for the server to "push" 
values to the clients: Clients will only get the changes next time they 
renew the lease, as this is the only time they talk to the server.  So 
this basically depends on your lease periods on the server...


Hope this helps


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Re: alltray + icedove/thunderbird not working

2012-01-10 Thread Victor Nitu
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>> On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:54:13 +, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

>>> Before looking into bugs I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing
>>> this and how to possibly debug. Google didn't turn up anything useful.

> 

I tried, but I cannot reproduce your problem.

I have:
alltray - Version: 0.71b-1
icedove  - Version: 3.1.16-1

You still haven't said anything about alltray's behavior against other
applications. Is this problem isolated to Icedove / Thunderbird?
Your add-ons for the mail client shall count for this issue, too. Be
sure they are worth mentioning in any report or bug hunt.


HTH,
Victor
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Re: no blueman interface at all!

2012-01-10 Thread Wayne Topa

On 01/10/2012 12:03 PM, afuentes wrote:

On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 11:36 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:

wtopa@dj:~$ bugs blueman


$ apt-file search -x \/bugs$

apcalc-common: /usr/share/calc/help/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/assign/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/choice/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/fasthelp/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/find/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/more/bugs
gnats: /usr/share/doc/gnats/examples/juniper-web-reports/bugs
grass: /usr/lib/grass64/etc/gem/skeleton/bugs

whats this sorcery... an alias?


Woops... Yes  I'm lazy

in .bashrc
alias bugs='apt-listbugs list $1 $2 $3'
alias srch="apt-cache search $1 $2 $3"
alias policy="apt-cache policy $1 $2 $3"

WT


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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread Balint Szigeti

On 10/01/2012 17:12, amt wrote:

Thanks Balint for the reply but I want to do it using apt-get from the terminal.



If it helps, I tried doing apt-get install vlc instead of xchat and it
returns me:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
  vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 1.1.3-1squeeze6) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.2) but it is not installable
Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1) but it is not installable
Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not installable
Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.10) but it is not installable
Depends: libtar but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (>= 0.3.6) but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-randr0 (>= 1.1) but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-shm0 but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-xv0 (>= 1.2) but it is not installable
Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify (= 1.1.3-1squeeze6) but it is not
going to be installed
Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse (= 1.1.3-1squeeze6) but it is not
going to be installed
E: Broken packages
It looks like broken packages (so you use a unstable Debian version or 
you did some hack that were not good).
_Sorry I can't help in these case_. When it happend to me I have to 
reinstall the system.


good advise in the future. Before you change anything your system you 
could run this: "dpkg --get-selections > ~/packages_list".

Then you'll know which packages are installed on your system.

Balint


Re: Automount

2012-01-10 Thread Christian Dysthe
On 01/10/12 at 06:36pm, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Christian Dysthe  writes:
> 
> > I've been running a relatively minimal desktop for years (Pekwm/hint2).
> > I haven't had many devices to connect to my computer so I have mounted
> > as needed. Over the last couple of years I've gathered devices I like to
> > connect to my computer like cameras, phones and a USB drive so I thought
> > it might be time to look into getting automount working. What's the
> > easiest way to do this without running Gnome (or KDE)?
> >
> > I'm running Sid 
> 
> I have installed usbmount that automatically mount and unmount USB mass
> storage devices.

Will USB mount work with a phone and MicroSD cards in the card reader on
the laptop? I've tested in Gnome and both mounts there.

> 
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> 
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Re: Automount

2012-01-10 Thread Csanyi Pal
Christian Dysthe  writes:

> I've been running a relatively minimal desktop for years (Pekwm/hint2).
> I haven't had many devices to connect to my computer so I have mounted
> as needed. Over the last couple of years I've gathered devices I like to
> connect to my computer like cameras, phones and a USB drive so I thought
> it might be time to look into getting automount working. What's the
> easiest way to do this without running Gnome (or KDE)?
>
> I'm running Sid 

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Automount

2012-01-10 Thread Christian Dysthe
Hi,

I've been running a relatively minimal desktop for years (Pekwm/hint2).
I haven't had many devices to connect to my computer so I have mounted
as needed. Over the last couple of years I've gathered devices I like to
connect to my computer like cameras, phones and a USB drive so I thought
it might be time to look into getting automount working. What's the
easiest way to do this without running Gnome (or KDE)?

I'm running Sid 

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Re: No sound after purged some gnome packages

2012-01-10 Thread Csanyi Pal
Csanyi Pal  writes:



> What I did is that that I just purged almost all gnome packages from my
> Debian SID and maybe purged some essential packages for sound.

And I'm using now the 'slim' display manager instead of 'gdm3'.

I find the solution:
sudo add username audio

All works well again.

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Re: no blueman interface at all!

2012-01-10 Thread afuentes
On Tue, 2012-01-10 at 11:36 -0500, Wayne Topa wrote:
> wtopa@dj:~$ bugs blueman

$ apt-file search -x \/bugs$

apcalc-common: /usr/share/calc/help/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/assign/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/choice/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/fasthelp/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/find/bugs
dosemu: /usr/share/doc/dosemu/freedos/more/bugs
gnats: /usr/share/doc/gnats/examples/juniper-web-reports/bugs
grass: /usr/lib/grass64/etc/gem/skeleton/bugs

whats this sorcery... an alias?

greets!
aL


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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread Andreas Rönnquist
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:25:40 -0500
amt <0101...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list:
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 20$
> 
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> Binary-1 2011$
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> 
> # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following
> entries # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as
> appropriate # for your mirror of choice.
> #
> # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> 
> 
> What do I need to add in order to install xchat?

To me it looks like you lack something like

deb ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main
deb-src ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze main

(with contrib and non-free added if you use such packages)
in addition to your lines containing squeeze-updates.

/Andreas


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Re: start-stop-daemon: stop several processes

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 11:02:13 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

> There are 2 systems behind a Thomson TG585V8 router connected to the
> internet.
> 
> Currently about once every halfhour the 'internet' LED on the router
> goes out (no internet connection) then goes red (internet connection
> failed) and goes green again. Takes 3-5 mins.
> 
> On my desktop this is noticed by ddclient which sees a change in the
> external IP and behaves accordingly.
> 
> Because I am interested in recording these events, like this:

(...)

JFYI, that crappy-saga of Thomson routers have an internal log facility 
which records such information. By accessing the router via telnet you 
can see, send or flush the logs :-)

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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread amt
Thanks Balint for the reply but I want to do it using apt-get from the terminal.



If it helps, I tried doing apt-get install vlc instead of xchat and it
returns me:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 vlc : Depends: vlc-nox (= 1.1.3-1squeeze6) but it is not going to be installed
   Depends: libfribidi0 (>= 0.19.2) but it is not installable
   Depends: libqtcore4 (>= 4:4.6.1) but it is not installable
   Depends: libqtgui4 (>= 4:4.5.3) but it is not installable
   Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>= 1.2.10) but it is not installable
   Depends: libtar but it is not installable
   Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (>= 0.3.6) but it is not installable
   Depends: libxcb-randr0 (>= 1.1) but it is not installable
   Depends: libxcb-shm0 but it is not installable
   Depends: libxcb-xv0 (>= 1.2) but it is not installable
   Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify (= 1.1.3-1squeeze6) but it is not
going to be installed
   Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse (= 1.1.3-1squeeze6) but it is not
going to be installed
E: Broken packages


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Re: alltray + icedove/thunderbird not working

2012-01-10 Thread Lorenzo Sutton

On 10/01/12 17:03, Camaleón wrote:

On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:54:13 +, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:


This is on debian wheezy with alltray v. 0.71b installed from
repositories. It doesn't seem to work as expected with neither Icedove
3.1.16 nor the latest Thunderbird 9.0.1 binary.

Wondering if use of XFCE4 is relevant

Before looking into bugs I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing
this and how to possibly debug. Google didn't turn up anything useful.

Looking won't hurt>:-)

I phrased wrongly I menat looking into reporting :)


Alltray doesn't work with iceweasel in testing
bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613218

My bet is that Icedove suffers for the same.

Cool indeed I should have searched for iceweasel as well.

Thanks,
Lorenzo.


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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread SM
On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 05:37:35PM +0100, Roel Wagenaar wrote:
> amt <0101...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Hello, I have just migrated from a debian based distro to Debian Squeeze
> > 6.0.3 amd64 lxde. I want to install xchat on my machine but when I
> > do:"apt-get install xchat" in the root terminal, it returns nothing.
> > 
> > Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list:
> > 
> > # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
> > Binary-1
> > 20$
> > 
> > deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD 
> > Binary-1
> > 2011$
> > 
> > deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> > deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> > 
> > # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> > # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following 
> > entries
> > # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
> > # for your mirror of choice.
> > #
> > # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> > # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> > 
> > 
> > What do I need to add in order to install xchat?
> 
> uncomment the last 2 lines, and please switch off the dreaded HTML.

Correct. Also, as the commented part suggests, you should use the
mirror closest to you. For example, if you live in Sweden, the
repository line to use would be

deb http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib

If in US:

deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib

And so on.

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No sound after purged some gnome packages

2012-01-10 Thread Csanyi Pal
Hi,

I have problem with sound. Can't hear anything except PC speaker's
beep. This PC Speaker is in the PC Box and is small. :)

On my Desktop Speakers I can't hear any sound.

The wmmixer application can't find /dev/mixer
wmmixer : Unable to open mixer device /dev/mixer'.

Aplay can't find any soundcard.
aplay -l
aplay: device_list:242: no soundcards found...

PulseAudio can't also find any soundcard.
pacmd
Welcome to PulseAudio! Use "help" for usage information.
>>> list-cards
0 card(s) available.

What I did is that that I just purged almost all gnome packages from my
Debian SID and maybe purged some essential packages for sound.

How can I solve this problem?

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Re: alltray + icedove/thunderbird not working

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:54:13 +, Lorenzo Sutton wrote:

> This is on debian wheezy with alltray v. 0.71b installed from
> repositories. It doesn't seem to work as expected with neither Icedove
> 3.1.16 nor the latest Thunderbird 9.0.1 binary.
> 
> Wondering if use of XFCE4 is relevant
> 
> Before looking into bugs I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing
> this and how to possibly debug. Google didn't turn up anything useful.

Looking won't hurt >:-)

Alltray doesn't work with iceweasel in testing
bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613218

My bet is that Icedove suffers for the same.

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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread Balint Szigeti

On 10/01/2012 16:58, amt wrote:

Here is how the /etc/apt/sources.list is looking now:


#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 201$

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 2011$

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib

# squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
  deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
  deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib

After saving the etc/apt/sources.list file I closed the root
terminal,reopened the root terminal, did  apt-get update, then apt-get
upgrade then I did apt-get install xchat and the terminal returned
this:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package xchat



Any suggestions?



see this :)

http://packages.debian.org/en/squeeze/amd64/xchat/download


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start-stop-daemon: stop several processes

2012-01-10 Thread hvw59601

Hi,

There are 2 systems behind a Thomson TG585V8 router connected to the 
internet.


Currently about once every halfhour the 'internet' LED on the router 
goes out (no internet connection) then goes red (internet connection 
failed) and goes green again. Takes 3-5 mins.


On my desktop this is noticed by ddclient which sees a change in the 
external IP and behaves accordingly.


Because I am interested in recording these events, like this:

Tue Jan 10 08:19:51 2012 189.188.155.144 (226)
Tue Jan 10 08:49:52 2012 189.188.157.21 (226)
Tue Jan 10 09:29:54 2012 187.132.137.81 (226)
Tue Jan 10 10:14:57 2012 187.136.116.91 (226)

I wrote a program 'do_chk_ip' which is piped the tail of syslog and 
looks for the appropriate ddclient message and then records the date and 
time to a database.


This process is started at boot by 'do_chk_ip' in /etc/init.d which has:

  stop)
start-stop-daemon --stop --verbose --exec $DAEMON
;;

where $DAEMON=/usr/bin/do_tail_chk which has:

tail -s 1 -n 60 -f /var/log/syslog | /usr/bin/do_chk_ip

but that starts 3 processes:

28739 tty5 00:00:00 do_tail_chk
28740 tty5 00:00:00 tail
28741 tty5 00:00:00 do_chk_ip

My stop) statement only kills 28739, how do I specify that also 28740 
and 28741 ought to be killed?


Hugo


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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread amt
Here is how the /etc/apt/sources.list is looking now:


#

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 201$

#deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 2011$

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib

# squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
 deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
 deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib

After saving the etc/apt/sources.list file I closed the root
terminal,reopened the root terminal, did  apt-get update, then apt-get
upgrade then I did apt-get install xchat and the terminal returned
this:

Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package xchat



Any suggestions?


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Re: sasl authentication failed

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:51:13 -0500, Tony Baldwin wrote:

> I followed directions here:
> http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_configure-saslauthd-to-use-mysql
> to set up postfix/dovecot to mail from my linode running squeeze.
> 
> I can now, either on that server or from home, collect mail from my
> domain with mutt, but when I try to send mail, I get a warning that the
> certificate hostname doesn't match the server, and, even when choosing
> (o) accept once // no (a) accept all option here //
> I get
> Sasl authentication failed.
> 
> The one thing that I question is this: hostname on the server gives me
> $hostnamethatIassigned
> hostname -f on that server gives me
> $hostnamethatIassigned.linode.com
> so this is what I put for the FDQN, according to the tutorial. But I've
> set up mail for the domain
> mail.tonybaldwin.org
> 
> imap is working, smtp is not
> But this is the first ever I have tried to set up a mail server, so I'm
> at a loss.
> Should I have entered my own domain for the fdqn? I didn't think so,
> since I set my domain in the virtualhost for postfix. But the
> certificate/hostname not matching makes me question this.
> 
> Any assistance will be appreciated.

Mmmm, my guess is that your are having problems (or at least "one" of the 
problems, the other can be indeed with saslauth :-) ) with the SSL 
certificate you have generated, described in this step of your guide¹.

To verify this point, test if your smtp is working fine (port 25, no SSL) 
and post here the results.

Also, review your Postfix logs (omit sensitive data if you post them here), 
they're usually the best source for solving problems :-)

¹http://library.linode.com/email/postfix/dovecot-mysql-debian-6-squeeze#sph_create-an-ssl-certificate-for-postfix

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alltray + icedove/thunderbird not working

2012-01-10 Thread Lorenzo Sutton
This is on debian wheezy with alltray v. 0.71b installed from 
repositories. It doesn't seem to work as expected with neither Icedove 
3.1.16 nor the latest Thunderbird 9.0.1 binary.


Wondering if use of XFCE4 is relevant

Before looking into bugs I'd like to know if anyone else is experiencing 
this and how to possibly debug. Google didn't turn up anything useful.


Thanks,
Lorenzo.



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Re: sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread Roel Wagenaar
amt <0101...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello, I have just migrated from a debian based distro to Debian Squeeze
> 6.0.3 amd64 lxde. I want to install xchat on my machine but when I
> do:"apt-get install xchat" in the root terminal, it returns nothing.
> 
> Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list:
> 
> # deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD
Binary-1
> 20$
> 
> deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
> 2011$
> 
> deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
> 
> # squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
> # A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
> # are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
> # for your mirror of choice.
> #
> # deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> # deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
> 
> 
> What do I need to add in order to install xchat?
> Thanks in advance,
> amt0101
> 
> 

uncomment the last 2 lines, and please switch off the dreaded HTML.

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Re: global keybindings

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 08 Jan 2012 15:28:57 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:

> On Sun, Jan 08, 2012 at 01:58:29PM +, Camale�n wrote:
>> On Sat, 07 Jan 2012 15:23:45 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:
>> 
>> > This is a modified repost of a previous problem.
>> > 
>> > Running Squeeze w/ Gnome and Metacity. Trying to change the key
>> > binding to run a terminal with no luck. System -> Preferences ->
>> > Keyboard Shortcuts Won't let me change the key. Keeps jumping to
>> > another action. Finaly was able to disable it. Applications -> System
>> > Tools -> Configuration Editor -> Apps -> Metacity ->
>> > global_keybindings -> run_command_terminal allows me to change the
>> > key and it seems to be persistent but has no effect, even after
>> > setting it as default. Even tried rebooting. Running a search turned
>> > up the above procedure and not much else.
>> > 
>> > Any pointers appreciated.
>> 
>> The above procedure works here (lenny).
>> 
>> If I set, for instance, "a" as keycombo for "/apps/metacity/
>> global_keybindings/run_command_terminal" it works right after I define
>> the value (no need to restart nor relogin).
>> 
>> Which makes me think that maybe you are using a keycombo that is
>> already being used by other action and it collides with this. Have you
>> tried with different combinations?
> 
> Tried several combinationsno joy. Have not as yet checked as to
> whether I'm duplicating something. I'll get to that early next week.
> 
> 
>> It can be also happening that the keyboard layout is making noise here
>> (swapped Alt or Ctrl keys?).
> 
> No swapping that I can tell.

I would also:

1/ Check if it works from another (new, freshly created) user.
2/ Check if custom keybinding works. For instance:

"/apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1" "a"
"/apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_1" "gnome-terminal"

Should launch gnome-terminal when you press "Ctrl+a"

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Re: no blueman interface at all!

2012-01-10 Thread Wayne Topa

On 01/10/2012 09:09 AM, Khosrow Hassani wrote:

Hi everyone,
I am using debian testing on my lenovo x60 laptop.
the blueman package is supposed to be a "graphical interface", but after 
installing I have no such interface at all! there are a bunch of blueman-manager etc 
commands which none of them work and give me errors about missing d-bus session bus 
daemon. how could this possibly happen? all required packages are installed automatically 
when I install blueman using the apt-get command!!
I am totally confused!

Khosrow


Maybe because of this:

wtopa@dj:~$ bugs blueman
Retrieving bug reports... Done
Parsing Found/Fixed information... Done
serious bugs of blueman (-> ) 
 #631838 - Missing icon/image renders software unusable
Summary:
 blueman(1 bug)

WT


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Re: webcamera not working

2012-01-10 Thread Andreas Berglund

On 2012-01-10 00:45, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 10/01/12 04:22, Andreas Berglund wrote:
   

Hi!
I have a logitech c910, kernel 3.0.11 and debian version 6.0.3. The
camera doesn't seem to work with uvcvideo driver, I get "v4l2: ioctl
streamon failed: No space left on device"  no matter what program I use.
I've tried switching the camera to different usb ports to get around the
usb bus bandwith problem, but to no avail. It works under windows so
it's not a hardware problem and I've read that this camera is supposed
to work with the uvcvideo driver. Anyone got any ideas?

regards
Andreas Berglund


 

$ vlc v4l2://`ls /dev/video*`

*If* that fails, please post the output of the following commands to
paste.debian.org and put the url of the paste into your reply:-
$ dmesg | grep -i 'warn\|fail\|error\|usb\|video'
$ ls /dev/video*
   


Is paste.debian.org the correct address? dns wouldn't resolv for me. I 
put the output here instead http://pastebin.com/Yfs4zL5T


The result of ls /dev/video* is /dev/video0



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Re: how to force dhcp server to update modified info at client side ?

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 17:53:16 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:

> I have two different gateway. One of the gateway has been defined at
> dhcpd3.conf file. Now if I change the gateway at dhcpd3.conf and restart
> the isc server; the client still hold the old gateway. How can I force
> the isc server to immediately inform the client about this change ?

I think the client will use the old lease until it is renewed or forces 
an update.

>From the server side I don't know of any way to enforce a lookup.

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sources.list configuration

2012-01-10 Thread amt
Hello, I have just migrated from a debian based distro to Debian Squeeze
6.0.3 amd64 lxde. I want to install xchat on my machine but when I
do:"apt-get install xchat" in the root terminal, it returns nothing.

Here is my /etc/apt/sources.list:

# deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
20$

deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 6.0.3 _Squeeze_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1
2011$

deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main contrib

# squeeze-updates, previously known as 'volatile'
# A network mirror was not selected during install.  The following entries
# are provided as examples, but you should amend them as appropriate
# for your mirror of choice.
#
# deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib
# deb-src http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-updates main contrib


What do I need to add in order to install xchat?
Thanks in advance,
amt0101


Re: Lenny (Debian 5.0) approaching end of life

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 14:47:03 -0400, francis picabia wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 7:20 AM, Camaleón  wrote:

(...)

>>> disturbances?
>>> Have you upgraded a Debian from old->new stable before?
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> Nope, never ever. In Spanish I would say "jamás de los jamases" :-)
>>
>> In do run in place upgrades on my testing computers that now runs on a
>> perpetual Debian "testing" but on production systems I would never do a
>> distribution upgrade and not because is not going to work (I know
>> Debian has one of the best in site upgrades available in linux with the
>> plus of release notes which help a lot to minimize the risks) but I'm a
>> very conservative sysadmin and one of my mottos is "always keep a
>> running system" so overwriting something that is working is something
>> that the mere thought gives me gooseflesh.
>>
>> Of course, I can do this way because I don't have thousand machines to
>> administer not have to remotely access to them, in such case I would
>> reconsider the in place upgrade path :-)
>>
>>
> We run about 5 servers with Debian which have been upgraded in place,
> from Lenny to Squeeze.  A couple started life as Debian 3.0 and have
> been upgraded a version a few times.  The services offered from these
> servers varies.  One is an INN news server. One is our DHCP/DNS server
> for a network with up to 5000 nodes on it.  Another 3 servers provide
> web sites and programming platforms.
> 
> We upgrade in place because it works, and because we can't afford to buy
> a new server for every OS life cycle.

(...)

Nice to know the upgrade path (instead a full pararel install) does the 
work for you. I understand every sysadmin has developed his/her own 
maintenance techniques and sticks to those that have been working for his/
her setups over the years.

> The issues with services breaking can be mitigated by testing on a VM
> instance with your usual configuration in advance. For example, I tested
> our DHCP config and DNS config on a VM system with squeeze versions of
> bind and ISC DHCP.

I personally don't like using VM for this purpose because they don't 
provide reliable results (what usually fails when upgrading from a older 
version to another are hardware related problems more than problematic 
services). In the end, software issues are usually easier to solve than  
hardware compatibility problems (like buggy drivers).

> The other part we can take advantage of is to do the upgrade work
> between busy cycles, and for us that means when students are away. The
> downtime for my last upgrade, of the DNS/DHCP was about 30 minutes,
> mainly due to the requirement of fiddling around with kernel needs (the
> rootdelay=9 issue I mention in another thread).

I also try to reduce the downtime for the installation of a new release 
by performing the migration on holidays or over the weekends when users 
are not at the office.

> The other thing I try to do, keeping in mind Camaleón's mentioning of
> conservative practises, is to have a fall back plan for anything
> important.  Websites can be migrated to another system temporarily
> during an upgrade.  I can set up secondary DNS and have another system
> ready to start with a copy of our DHCP config.  In the case of a service
> like INN, no one would notice if it is down for awhile, and people can
> live without it for some time if needed.

That would be great but I don't have secondary machines for balancing all 
of the services (I wish I had!) so this is not always possible :-)

> I feel my practises are also conservative, but in the direction of
> keeping prepared for a zero day exploit.  I know Debian is quick to
> patch security problems, but I can't be ready to do so with an
> unsupported version of Debian.  Patching the problem may also be
> possible outside of the Debian packages, but if I need to act quickly on
> several systems and it is time consuming to determine what chain of
> dependencies may need updates, I'd prefer to avoid downtime caused by
> flawed emergency patching methods.

(...)

Yup, running an unsupported (unpattched) system is a high risk, even more 
if it is providing external services (web hosting, e-mail...) :-(

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Re: Network not working on Shuttle XS35GTV2

2012-01-10 Thread Ramon Hofer
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 00:34:29 +0200, Andrei Popescu wrote:

> On Lu, 09 ian 12, 16:07:38, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> 
>> I can skip the network setup of netinst. But I can't skip the part when
>> I have to choose a Debian mirror?
> 
> It should be possible. Worst case the "Back" button should get you to a
> menu where you can just choose the next step ;)

Aha. With the UNetbootin's Debian Stable_NetInstall_x64 option it's not 
possible to skip the network setup. But with this one it is:

http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/6.0.3/amd64/iso-cd/debian-6.0.3-amd64-
netinst.iso

I installed SSH server and Standard system utilities.

`dmesg | grep -i firmware` returns
"[   0.874429] pci :00:1f.0: [Firmware Bug]: TigerPoint LPC.BM_STS 
cleared"

`lspci | grep Ethernet` gives
"02:00.5 Ethernet controller: JMicron Technology Corp. JMC250 PCI Express 
Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 03)"

`ifconfig` lists only the loopback interface.

I can run `ifconfig eth0 up` and then eth0 is listed by `ifconfig`.
I added the following to "/etc/network/interfaces" without any difference:
"iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.1.201
netmask 255.255.255.0
network 192.168.1.0
broadcast 192.168.1.255
gateway 192.168.1.1"

You wrote in your first answer I should update to the newest kernel. At 
the moment is 2.6.32-5-amd64 installed.
How can I do that without a network connection?

What else can I do?


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: interfaces file failes to set gateway

2012-01-10 Thread David Liontooth
Thank you, Bob -- much appreciated, including the update on the 
conventions for the interfaces file!


Cheers,
Dave

On 01/10/2012 11:12 AM, Bob Proulx wrote:

David Liontooth wrote:

This is my /etc/network/interfaces:

# The primary network interface
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.26
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 network 192.168.0.0
 broadcast 192.168.0.255
 gateway 192.168.0.178

First, it would be good to remove the network and broadcast lines.
They are redundant information.  It used to be that the
debian-installer would create those as examples.  But those examples
have been removed and the d-i no longer creates those.  Recently there
has been a push to clean these up so that they are no longer
distributing such examples.  Here is a reference:

   http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=630551

Second, it would be good to update to the modern event driven style
replacing "auto eth0" with "allow-hotplug eth0" instead.  Or keep
"auto" and also add "allow-hotplug eth0" too.  That is supported.  The
presence of "auto" allows '/etc/init.d/networking restart' to work.
The presence of "allow-hotplug" allows it to be started and stopped
based upon it being detected by the kernel is an the modern code path
for all new systems.  These days it is probably the much better tested
of the two since the older way is deprecated.  I expect you are seeing
the deprecation warnings.

allow-hotplug eth0
iface eth0 inet static
 address 192.168.0.26
 netmask 255.255.255.0
 gateway 192.168.0.178

The format and contents of the file are documented here:

   
http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch05.en.html#_the_network_interface_with_the_static_ip

I don't think either of those two things will affect the problem you
are seeing.  But they would both be good changes to make to update to
the current standards before trying to debug further.


I cloned this entire operating system, which as you see is on a
private subnet, to another box that is on a public network, and got
exactly the same problem (with a different gateway). I have other
machines on the same networks with the same configuration that don't
have this problem. What could be preventing the default gateway from
being set on boot?

This information leads me to believe that it is probably not in the
interfaces file.  The file looks okay to me (other than my comments
above) and therefore the problem is probably elsewhere.  The most
likely suspects would be one of the files in the /etc/network/*.d/*
directory.

   ls /etc/network/*.d/

Look through those files and see if any of those might be causing this
problem.  They would have been cloned with the other machine and that
also leads me to think the problem might be there.

Have you looked at the /var/log/syslog file and/or dmesg output to see
if there are any messages related to network setup that might be
clues?

Good luck!
Bob



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Re: how to get the date of the last upgrade?

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 11:19:27 +0100, Meike Stone wrote:


>>> I tried this and it that seems that this file is not very reliable, or
>>> the  logrotate does delete all other. The system is from 2008 an the
>>> term.log shows me only two entires from 2011.
>>
>> Yup, that's for the "latest" update run.
>>
>> The remainder updates are archived under "/var/log/apt/term.log.*.gz".
>>
>>> On rpm systems, I can use rpm -qa --last. Is there any similar command
>>> on debian?
>>
>> Ah, that command reminds my days with openSUSE :-)
>>
>> In Debian there are also "/var/log/dpkg.log.*.gz" files which list the
>> installed packages sorted by time.
>>
>>
> 
> Problem with this files is the logrotate. Default it keep only 6/12
> versions ...
> But many Thanks!

You can setup logrotate to do not delete the files and stores at your 
wish (forever, 5 years, one year...) though I would not recommend it :-)

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Re: [SOLVED]dhclient renewal

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Mon, 09 Jan 2012 08:10:49 -0600, hvw59601 wrote:

> hvw59601 wrote:
>> hvw59601 wrote:
>>> hvw59601 wrote:
 Camaleón wrote:
>> 
>> 
>>>
>>> And there you see IMO where those renewals of 57 secs. come from:
>>> '[renewtime] = 60'
>>> Now I have to find a way to change that :-)
>>>
>>>
>> But whenever I try to change that value of '60', I get:
>> 
>> Error : Unable to configure LAN_private
>> 
>> Any hints?
>> 
>> 
> I found this:
> http://www.o2help.co.uk/router-change-dns/
> 
> and so:
> 
> {TELMEX}=>dhcp server config state=disabled 
> {TELMEX}=>dhcp server lease flush
> {TELMEX}=>dhcp server pool config name=LAN_private renewtime=86400
> {TELMEX}=>dhcp server config state=enabled {TELMEX}=>saveall
> {TELMEX}=>exit
> Connection closed by foreign host.
> 
> and in syslog:
> 
> Jan  9 07:41:55 HDBB dhclient: DHCPREQUEST on eth0 to 192.168.1.254 port 67 
> Jan  9 07:41:56 HDBB dhclient: DHCPACK from 192.168.1.254  
> Jan  9 07:41:56 HDBB dhclient: bound to 192.168.1.190 -- renewal in 56700 
> seconds.
> 
> Camaleón thanks a lot for all your help! Great job!

Wohooo!! Glad you could finally solve this. 

Congrats, you did it all by your own ;-)

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Re: CUPS-PDF

2012-01-10 Thread Camaleón
On Tue, 10 Jan 2012 10:24:45 -0500, Martin, Larry D wrote:

(please, disable html message formatting, it's barely unreadable and very 
annoying to remove)

> I have Cups  and Cups-pdf installed on an x86 Squeeze.  It was working
> and now all I get is a request id or job number.  How do I get this
> going again?

What's the CUPS log? Can you see any message or error from CUPS's web 
interface (http://localhost:631/printers)?

Output PDF files are stored under your user "~/PDF" folder.

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CUPS-PDF

2012-01-10 Thread Martin, Larry D
I have Cups  and Cups-pdf installed on an x86 Squeeze.  It was working and now 
all I get is a request id or job number.  How do I get this going again?

Thanks,   Larry

Larry D. Martin
Mainframe Systems Support
Office of Information Technology and Communications
301.883.7335



Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-10 Thread Justin Jereza
> With grub2, your /boot can be an LV on a RAID6 if you want it to be.
> The only thing that does not work is /boot on dmcrypt.

I forgot about grub2. It's only recently that I've built it and seen how
big of a monster it is. All the modules it comes with is quite useful
though.

> Having /boot on a separate RAID1, however, might be easier for
> recovery,

That's true.


Re: Ufter upgrade Debian SID something wrong with sound - PulseAudio

2012-01-10 Thread Csanyi Pal
Scott Ferguson  writes:

> On 09/01/12 21:17, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>> 
>>> On 09/01/12 20:27, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Scott Ferguson  writes:

> On 09/01/12 02:34, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>>
>>> On 08/01/12 22:27, Csanyi Pal wrote:
 Scott Ferguson  writes:

> On 08/01/12 04:43, Csanyi Pal wrote:
>> Scott Ferguson  writes:
>>
>>> On 07/01/12 07:28, Csanyi Pal wrote:



> I suspect you need to find what is being called by the volume control 
> keybinding. 

Sorry, I'm a fraid I can't understand this sentence abowe (sorry, my
English is far from perfect. Can you explain what is 'volume control
keybinding'? 

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Re: rootdelay=9 kernal option - why?

2012-01-10 Thread francis picabia
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Pascal Hambourg  wrote:
> francis picabia a écrit :
>> On Sat, Jan 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Pascal Hambourg  
>> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure I didn't learn of the solution initially through the debian
>> release notes.
>
> You wrote that you generally print out the release notes prior to
> upgrade. I supposed that you read them too.

No, I don't read every word.  I skim through the headings as
many sections of the upgrade notes do not apply to me.   The first time
the boot fail happened and I resolved it, it was about a year ago, so I don't
remember in detail what I found.  But I can say that the release
notes description does not describe the problem from
the end user's point of view with enough detail.

I didn't see anything there about my sitting at an initramfs
prompt, so I went to google.  I think there should be a section on
the boot failure in the section 4.5 "Possible issues during upgrade",
and call it specifically by what the end user sees.  We don't see
a boot timing issue with udev.  We see the initramfs prompt.

I'll make a bug report for upgrade-reports.

>> Older SCSI disks and controllers (2002 to 2006 vintage) running mirror boot
>> disks with mdadm seems to trigger the flaw often here.
>
> I suspect that SCSI enumeration may take quite a long time before the
> disks are available and the RAID arrays assembled, causing the problem.

Well, with all due respect, there was no problem like this in Lenny on
any of my systems, so it appears to me like a bug introduced with
the new kernel or some change related to the new kernel.

>>> This is not specific to Squeeze, the issue was already reported in Etch
>>> and Lenny release notes. And it is not a kernel issue but an initramfs
>>> issue.

I'll assume this is not a simple problem to automatically resolve
and resolve without options being passed along.  But I'll say
that if the problem has been introduced by attempts to speed up
the boot process, they should back off.   Especially for the
i686 kernel. There are many people without much money
using Debian (and other free distros), and it would be natural
to assume they might also be using hardware in its second life.

>> The solution is within kernel params.
>
> Actually, it is not really a kernel parameter here. Options passed to
> the kernel command line are not all directed to the kernel itself. It
> can be a convenient way to pass parameters to other pieced of software.
> I.e. the "break" option is used by the Debian initramfs to stop its
> execution at various stages ; rootdelay is used by both the kernel and
> the Debian initramfs.
>
> As a kernel parameter, rootdelay specifies the delay before mounting the
> root filesystem. But when an initramfs is used, the kernel itself does
> not mount the final root device, it mounts the initramfs instead. So
> there is no point in waiting for rootdelay. The initramfs enumerates the
> hardware, loads the needed modules to handle the disks and then mounts
> the actual root filesystem. But there can be some time between when a
> module is loaded and the hardware it handles becomes available.
>
> The Debian initramfs has been designed so that it uses the same
> rootdelay parameter (extracted from the kernel command line) before
> trying to mount the final root filesystem. But it could have been a
> different parameter name.

Thanks for the detailed description.


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Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-10 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Justin Jereza  [2012.01.10.1523 +0100]:
> Your /boot must be in a regular partition or in a raid1 volume. It may
> either have it's own filesystem (I typically use one that's 512mb in size)
> or in the root filesystem. If it's in the root filesystem, then that means
> that root should be in a regular partition or in a raid1 volume.

With grub2, your /boot can be an LV on a RAID6 if you want it to be.
The only thing that does not work is /boot on dmcrypt.

Having /boot on a separate RAID1, however, might be easier for
recovery, especially if you are not so familiar yet. Later, however,
it doesn't matter, i.e. Debian installer rescue mode or grml can
easily give you access to a system, and Super Grub Disk can boot
such a system too, should you ever need it.

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no blueman interface at all!

2012-01-10 Thread Khosrow Hassani
Hi everyone,
I am using debian testing on my lenovo x60 laptop.
the blueman package is supposed to be a "graphical interface", but after 
installing I have no such interface at all! there are a bunch of 
blueman-manager etc commands which none of them work and give me errors about 
missing d-bus session bus daemon. how could this possibly happen? all required 
packages are installed automatically when I install blueman using the apt-get 
command!!
I am totally confused!

Khosrow


Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-10 Thread Justin Jereza
> Some searchs talk about a separate /boot partition - I don't
> understand why that is needed or relevant.
>
> I'm assuming I'd make a mdadm v 1.2 raid 1 partition for root.

Your /boot must be in a regular partition or in a raid1 volume. It may
either have it's own filesystem (I typically use one that's 512mb in size)
or in the root filesystem. If it's in the root filesystem, then that means
that root should be in a regular partition or in a raid1 volume.

I typically put /boot in raid1 then create a raid5/6 volume, then I create
lvm volumes that use the raid5/6 volumes.


how to force dhcp server to update modified info at client side ?

2012-01-10 Thread J. Bakshi
Hello,

I have two different gateway. One of the gateway has been defined at 
dhcpd3.conf file.
Now if I change the gateway at dhcpd3.conf and restart the isc server; the 
client still
hold the old gateway. How can I force the isc server to immediately inform the 
client
about this change ?

Thanks


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Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-10 Thread HP
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On 10.01.2012 00:13, Marc Auslander wrote:
> Is it possible to boot a raid root file system.  I'm having trouble
> finding up to date documentation.
> 
> Some searchs talk about a separate /boot partition - I don't 
> understand why that is needed or relevant.
> 
> I'm assuming I'd make a mdadm v 1.2 raid 1 partition for root.
> 
> Can someone either tell me if this is workable, or point me at 
> documentation.  (the current grub-pc info is silent about mdadm).
> 
> google search lead to various bug reports.
Hi,

- From my experience it works with grub2 out of the box. Iirc, you do
not need to do anything special, just setup the raid in the installer,
install the system and let the installer setup grub2.

The stuff about /boot is for users with grub1 or other bootloaders not
capable to boot directly from mdadm-volumes (or lvm or whatever).
Another situation where you have to think about /boot is if your going
to encrypt your root using cryptsetup.
Afaik you even should even be able to use LVM on raid without much
trouble, but i never actually tried to do that.

Greetings
HP
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ext4 extends implementation question

2012-01-10 Thread afuentes
What happens when you run out of space to allocate new extends in ext4?
is not allowed to write anymore even tho there are tons of blocks
available?

greets!
aL


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Re: pure debian testing or a distro based on debian testing

2012-01-10 Thread Amrish Purohit
Hi Osamu,
Thanks for your reply. I will definitely try installing testing over
stable version. I make my system dual boot so I have a backup. Here is
the way I install the debian, please correct me if I am wrong.
I install the core system, then I install gdm3 and gnome-terminal to get
the GUI. After getting the GUI I install the packages as I need it. So I
plan to do the same with testing. First I will install core system +
gdm3 of stable debian, after getting the gui, I will change the
repositories in /etc/apt/sourcelist and make dist upgrade. I hope this
will work.
Please comment if any thing is wrong.

Thanks
Amrish

On Monday 09 January 2012 07:34 PM, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Mon, Jan 09, 2012 at 07:02:01PM +0530, Amrish Purohit wrote:
>   
>> Hi all,
>> I am using debian stable as my primary OS. I want to involve in
>> debian and as a first step I would like to install debian testing. I
>> have tried to install debian testing with various snapshot of weekly
>> build, but my system get stuck when gui come up ,keyboard and mouse
>> is not working.
>> 
> Sometime installer does not work well for testing/unstable.
>
>   
>> I think I should go with a distro based on debian testing.
>> (considering mint on debian testing). what should I do?
>> 
> Maybe ... if such thing exist.  But do you know most of us install
> stable system and upgrade it to testing/unstable.
>
>   
>> Should I go with pure debian testing or a distro on debian testing?
>> 
> I think you should at least try upgrading system after installing stable
> system on separate partition as dual boot.
>
> If you want to make you life easy, install non-desktop small system
> first.
>
> Then edit /etc/apt/souces.list to replace stable or squeeze with wheezy and 
> run
>  # apt-get update
>  # apt-get dist-upgrade
>
> Then run tasksel or with aptitude, install desktop task and you are
> done.
>
> You should at least read this section:
>
> http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_debian_package_management_prerequisites
>
> Osamu
>   


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Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-10 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

10/01/2012 00:13, Marc Auslander:

Is it possible to boot a raid root file system.  I'm having trouble
finding up to date documentation.

Some searchs talk about a separate /boot partition - I don't
understand why that is needed or relevant.

I'm assuming I'd make a mdadm v 1.2 raid 1 partition for root.


[snip]

I forgot that part, yes, 1.2, fill in mdadm.conf AND rebuild initrd 
afterward if your are setting up things manually (as opposed to a new 
install). No need to change file-system ID to "fd", that was for 0.90 
type metadata.



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Re: grub-pc mdadm root

2012-01-10 Thread tv.deb...@googlemail.com

10/01/2012 00:13, Marc Auslander wrote:

Is it possible to boot a raid root file system.  I'm having trouble
finding up to date documentation.

Some searchs talk about a separate /boot partition - I don't
understand why that is needed or relevant.

I'm assuming I'd make a mdadm v 1.2 raid 1 partition for root.

Can someone either tell me if this is workable, or point me at
documentation.  (the current grub-pc info is silent about mdadm).

google search lead to various bug reports.


Hi, I can't point to any documentation right now, but I can confirm it 
"just works" since I have machines running this kind of config. I only 
use a separate /boot for RAID + LUKS, but raid1 alone can work without it.
Having said that, I am not surprised about the bug reports, I have 
filled some myself. There was a problem when grub-pc 1.99 came out, but 
the "mduuid" patch solved that, it's now fixed thanks to:


"2011-04-17  Vladimir Serbinenko  

Identify RAID by its UUID rather than (guessed) name.

* grub-core/disk/raid.c (ascii2hex): New function.
(grub_raid_open): Accept mduuid/%s specification.
* grub-core/kern/emu/getroot.c (get_mdadm_name): Revamped into ...
(get_mdadm_uuid): ... this.
(grub_util_get_grub_dev): Use mduuid/%s if UUID is available."

Squeeze version (1.98) is OK, this problem only occurred in 
wheezy/testing and up.


If you find a specific bug report that worries you, maybe you can point 
to it ?


Anyway, it should work, have fun.


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Re: Dvorak Keyboards.

2012-01-10 Thread Dotan Cohen
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 19:35, Anthony Campbell  wrote:
> My question: is it really worth the trouble of learning a new way of
> typing, if you are already a moderately competent touch typist on the
> QWERTY keyboard?
>

Probably not. Some people cite speed, others comfort as a reason. I'll
tell you mine.

I type fast. Real fast. I haven't done a wpm test but let's just say
that I type faster than most. Often, this speed comes with increased
finger pressure on the keys (I bang them) and rapid wrist movement.
Both those factors cause me pain now. Switching to Colemak slowed me
down considerably, as such I could relearn how I press the keys and
avoid bottoming out (mechanical keyboards do not need to bottom out to
register a keypress). Furthermore, the reduced wrist movement (because
of the better layout) and the slower movement (due to my unfamiliarity
with the layout) have reduced my wrist pain. I am actually typing this
in qwerty now, and I see that my fingers are all over the keyboard. My
pinky hurts!

Note that I decided to do something different for Colemak. Instead of
putting my index fingers in the 'correct' position (F and J in Qwerty)
I put them further out (D and K in Qwerty). This gives me a bit more
room between them, for a more natural typing position, and it reduces
the load on the pinkies. The extra load is moved to the index fingers,
which are stronger and more agile.

I am trying to configure my own keyboard layout, but I am having
trouble remapping the modifier keys:
Noah Ergonomic Keyboard Layout
http://dotancohen.com/eng/noah_ergonomic_keyboard_layout.html

That layout moves the hands as far apart as possible and moves as much
load off the pinkies as possible. It is very comfortable, but I am
having trouble writing an xkb layout for it.

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