Re: Installing Debian as VirtualBox guest - which videodriver to install?

[Csanyi Pal]

Hi Rui,

"Rui Miguel P. Bernardo"  writes:

> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Csanyi Pal  wrote:
>> I just installed on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid host on VirtualBox
>> the Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid as guset using the
>> http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/mini.iso
>>
>> so I get virtual consoles but not a desktop environment.
>>
>> I don't know whichvideodriver to install to get X Window on guest
>> system?
>>
>> On host system I have installed xserver-xorg-video-nvidia. Should I
>> install it on the guest system too?

> virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 will give you seamless screen display. I also
> recommend virtualbox-ose-guest-utils, virtualbox-ose-guest-source and
> virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms. These package names are for squeeze but
> work in wheezy/sid (transitional packages). The packages
> virtualbox-dkms may also be needed if not already installed, not sure.
> If the guest dkms module build fails, install it.
>
> To have all the video drivers installed install xserver-xorg and
> xserver-xorg-video-all. xserver-xorg-video-all will not install
> non-free drivers and will make sure you have vesa available.
> xserver-xorg-video-all is a package that can be safely removed later
> if you really want to remove some of the drivers installed.
>
> To install a desktop install the -session package of the preferred
> desktop (lxsession, xfce4-session, gnome-session, etc) and xinit to
> use startx. To use a desktop manager just install one (kdm, gdm3,
> lightdm, etc).
>
> You don't need nvidia drivers in the guest, you need the virtualbox
> drivers, even for 3d accel in guest.

OK

I have installed on guest system followings:
virtualbox-guest-x11
virtualbox-guest-dkms
virtualbox-guest-utils

It works, I have X Window system, I just use 'startx' to get it.
I have installed gpm for mouse support on textual console (not X)
When in textual mode (not X) in virtual terminal the gpm works but it is
buggy. The mouse pointer isn't in the proper position so one can't
always select (highlight) text in virtual terminal because just can't to
reach some rows in the terminal.

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How to monitor the internet bandwidth eater ?

[J. Bakshi]

Hello,

This is an office environment where client's PC are connected with a hub and 
that
hub is connected with the gateway debian box. How can I monitor the bandwidth at
the gateway server to check which sites are eating maximum bandwidth. I have 
used
iftop / ntop etc. but still unable to get the proper report i.e. when I 
visit
youtube or do a torrent download from my own client box; I can't see the 
presence
of those connection through iftop / ntop. Could anyone suggest a proper tool
for this ? Or am I missing the right technique needed for
iftop etc  ?

Thanks


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apt aptitude inconsistent search results (regex)

[Ano Nymous]

apt 0.8.16
aptitude 0.6.4

If I search for a package name (~n) then using '$' should prevent -dbg -doc
-multi.
So I would consider the following results wrong:
$ aptitude search "~ngstreamer(.+)-(ffmpeg|plugins-(ugly|bad))$"
i   gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg- FFmpeg plugin for
GStreamer
p   gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg-dbg- FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer (debug
symbols
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad   - GStreamer plugins from the "bad"
set
p   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-dbg   - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
(debu
p   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-doc   - GStreamer documentation for plugins
from t
p   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multi - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
(Mult
p   gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad-multi - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
(Mult
i   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly  - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly"
set
p   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-dbg  - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
(deb
p   gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly-doc  - GStreamer documentation for plugins
from t

However, using the same regex with apt-cache yields the correct result:
$ apt-cache search "^gstreamer(.+)-(ffmpeg|plugins-(ugly|bad|good))$"
gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg - FFmpeg plugin for GStreamer
gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad - GStreamer plugins from the "bad" set
gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly - GStreamer plugins from the "ugly" set
gstreamer0.10-plugins-good - GStreamer plugins from the "good" set

The only way I can get aptitude to perform properly is by using the
following regex:
$ aptitude search "~ngstreamer(.+)-(ffmpeg$|plugins-(ugly$|bad$|good$))"

Which I would consider as wrong.
Another example, where aptitude is right and apt-cache is wrong:
$  apt-cache search "^mp\w*r$"
mp3blaster - Full-screen console mp3 and Ogg Vorbis player
mp3roaster - A Perl hack for burning audio CDs out of MP3/OGG/FLAC/WAV files
mplayer2 - next generation movie player for Unix-like systems
mplayer - movie player for Unix-like systems

"mplayer2" should have been excluded.

$  aptitude search "~n^mp\w*r$"
p   mp3blaster  - Full-screen console mp3 and Ogg
Vorbis pla
p   mp3roaster  - A Perl hack for burning audio CDs out
of M
i   mplayer - movie player for Unix-like systems

For package names, ~n or ?name with aptitude is unnecessary, I used it in
the previous examples for clarification.
I've read man 7 regex and I'm fairly sure those regexes are fine but many
instances give wrong results.
An application that gives expected results is grep, in particular grep -E.
Is this a known issue, or where am I going wrong?

Re: Lilo not recognizing keyboard SOLVED)

[Marc Shapiro]

On 03/25/12 20:31, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I just migrated my / partition to a larger partition on a new disk. I
used find piped to cpio which took care of everything except
modifications to fstab and lilo.conf and then running lilo. I made those
changes, leaving tho old setup in lilo.conf as the default and the old
disk installed until I was sure that everything was booting OK. Then I
ran lilo and everything was as expected... until I rebooted.

The lilo screen came up, showing my new menu option and all of my
previous options. The problem is that I can not select anything, so it
eventually boots into the default option. I can not select the other
options, either with the arrow keys, or by typing in the desired option.
Anything that I do at the keyboard is simply ignored and the default
option boots. I recently installed a new keyboard and this one is a USB
keyboard, instead of my old PS2 keyboard. Could this have anything to do
with the problem. The keyboard works fine after linux is loaded.


I should have googled before posting.  Aparently lilo is not capable of 
recognizing USB keyboards, but the BIOS can.  All I needed to do was 
find the right BIOS option.  The only tricky part was that this option 
(in my BIOS) says nothing about keyboards.  The option was for allowing 
legacy USB support in DOS!  Who looks for that?!?  Once I found it, 
everything is working just fine.


Marc Shapiro


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Re: Best way to migrate disks (SOLVED)

[Marc Shapiro]

On 03/24/12 23:25, Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta wrote:

On 03/25/2012 01:16 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I have an old 40GB disk and a recently purchased 1TB disk. The new
disk has been partitioned into a 2GB swap partition, two 500MB
partitions that are currently empty and the remainder is an LVM2 PV
which I have added to my VG, so I now have plenty of space. So far, so
good.

My problem is that I am still booting off of the 40GB disk and my /
partition has pretty much run out of space (it is about 280MB). I want
to migrate everything from there into one of the 500MB partitions on
the new drive and boot from there. What is the best way to do this?
Any suggestions?

Marc




First, make a backup. Don't modify anything on the old disk, just in the
new one!!!


Thanks to everyone who replied.  I asked here first to find a 'Debian' 
answer, but I probably should have just Googled it.  I found several 
sites advocating piping the results of find to cpio and this worked 
perfectly.  All I had to do after that was to add a new stanza to 
lilo.conf and update fstab in the new partition, then run lilo.  Works 
like a charm.


Marc


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Lilo not recognizing keyboard

[Marc Shapiro]

I just migrated my / partition to a larger partition on a new disk.  I 
used find piped to cpio which took care of everything except 
modifications to fstab and lilo.conf and then running lilo.  I made 
those changes, leaving tho old setup in lilo.conf as the default and the 
old disk installed until I was sure that everything was booting OK. 
Then I ran lilo and everything was as expected... until I rebooted.


The lilo screen came up, showing my new menu option and all of my 
previous options.  The problem is that I can not select anything, so it 
eventually boots into the default option.  I can not select the other 
options, either with the arrow keys, or by typing in the desired option. 
 Anything that I do at the keyboard is simply ignored and the default 
option boots.  I recently installed a new keyboard and this one is a USB 
keyboard, instead of my old PS2 keyboard.  Could this have anything to 
do with the problem.  The keyboard works fine after linux is loaded.


My lilo.conf file contains:

**

boot=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD400EB-00CPF0_WD-WCAAT1261081
large-memory
compact
lba32
vga=normal
prompt
timeout=100
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
root="UUID=4127ac6d-f3b7-4785-b8a6-c40ad00f2fac"
initrd=/initrd.img
label=Linux_New
read-only

image=/vmlinuz
root="UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69"
initrd=/initrd.img
label=Linux
read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
root="UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69"
initrd=/initrd.img.old
label="Linux_Old"
read-only

image=/boot/memtest86+.bin
label = memtest86+


**

Any help is appreciated.

Marc Shapiro



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Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp ... OT question

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012, Paul E Condon wrote:
> > I'm sure some/many of you will gasp at that fact I still use EXT2.  If
> > it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.  The /boot and root filesystems are on
> > EXT2, with all data storage on XFS.  Never had problems with EXT2 in
> > this setup, so it lives on, for now.

You are, of course, aware of the term "bit rot"?

ext2 is mostly unused nowadays, and it gets little attention and testing.
It depends heavily on the VFS layer pagecache, and other areas of the kernel
to work well.  But THOSE areas are not staying put.  So, ext2 *will* bit
rot.

> I'm convinced by your argument, but I'm not ready to switch to XFS and
> ext2. My root partition is ext3 and contains plenty of space (~50GB)

I advise you to not switch anything to ext2.  XFS is fine, it is actively
developed, regression-tested, and heavily used everywhere.  ext2 is not
(anymore).

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Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp ... OT question

[Paul E Condon]

On 20120325_010923, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> On 3/24/2012 4:02 PM, Javier Vasquez wrote:
> > 2012/3/24 shirish शिरीष :
> 
> >> # TMPFS_SIZE: maximum size for all tmpfs filesystems if no specific
> >> # size is provided.  If no value is provided here, the kernel default
> >> # will be used.
> >> TMPFS_SIZE=20%
> > 
> > See, this is as you wish.  This particular setting is the maximum for
> > ALL of the tmpfs space.  Kind of the default if nothing else is
> > specified.  You might not touch this if you don't want.  So I would
> > not be afraid of using 100% of RAM here.
> 
> That's probably not a smart idea:
> 
> http://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt
> ...
> tmpfs has three mount options for sizing:
> 
> size:  The limit of allocated bytes for this tmpfs instance. The
>default is half of your physical RAM without swap. If you
>oversize your tmpfs instances the machine will deadlock
>since the OOM handler will not be able to free that memory.
> ...
> 
> The OP would likely be far better off simply mounting /tmp on his root
> filesystem as was always done in the past.  Application developers
> writing to /tmp aren't expecting memory speed transfers of such files
> because of the traditional placement of /tmp.  And he'll have more than
> enough space, many times his RAM quantity.
> 
> FWIW, my Squeeze servers are all upgrades going back to Sarge, IIRC.
> Here's my /tmp setup:
> 
> $ df /tmp
> FilesystemTypeSize  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
> /dev/sda2 ext2 33G  3.8G   28G  12% /
> 
> I'm sure some/many of you will gasp at that fact I still use EXT2.  If
> it ain't broke, don't "fix" it.  The /boot and root filesystems are on
> EXT2, with all data storage on XFS.  Never had problems with EXT2 in
> this setup, so it lives on, for now.
> 
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OK, Stan,

I'm convinced by your argument, but I'm not ready to switch to XFS and
ext2. My root partition is ext3 and contains plenty of space (~50GB)
for /tmp. Also, I have been being bothered by running out of space for
intermediate files during 'sort' of largish files. So, ... how do I
shut down tmpfs? On my plain vanilla wheezy tmpfs seems also to be
involved in something called rootfs which is in use. Do I have to
reboot to get rid of the tmpfs mount of /tmp?  On this machine, I have
a 60GB partition that I have been using with the -T option in sort to
make it work again, but I can't make that partition BE mounted as /tmp
until I have umount-ed the tmpfs mount at /tmp. At least that is what
I think my problem is.

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[Bernard]

Keith McKenzie wrote:




I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in
the columns, just before the red zones).



Not sure if you've tried these:-

Alsamixer has 'mic-boost', 'capture', 'capture1', & 'internal mic 
boost'. (Press F4)


Also F6 might give another soundcard.


I sort of tried these... What I mean is that I suppose not all sound 
cards support all these options. Mine does have 'Capture', 'Playback' 
and various SPDIF options, but no 'intertnal mic boost' or 'mic boost'. 
As for F6, it lists the two sound cards that are available in that 
system, that is :


HDA Intel G45 DEVCTG

and the webcam sound card, that states that it does not have any 
playback function. For more details, please see the screen shots that I 
have done with alsamixer :


http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer1.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/Alsamixer2.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer3.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer4.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer5.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer6.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer7.jpg

http://bdebreil.free.fr/alsamixer8.jpg


You will surely notice on these screen shots that most sound settings 
are so high that they are 'in the red'. Those settings were the only 
ones that allowed me to record a very weak and distorted - but still 
existing - sound in videos. Normal settings (green zones and green + 
white zones) gave no sound at all






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Re: Installing Debian as VirtualBox guest - which videodriver to install?

[Rui Miguel P. Bernardo]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 6:58 PM, Csanyi Pal  wrote:
> I just installed on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid host on VirtualBox
> the Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid as guset using the
> http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/mini.iso
>
> so I get virtual consoles but not a desktop environment.
>
> I don't know whichvideodriver to install to get X Window on guest
> system?
>
> On host system I have installed xserver-xorg-video-nvidia. Should I
> install it on the guest system too?

Hi,

virtualbox-ose-guest-x11 will give you seamless screen display. I also
recommend virtualbox-ose-guest-utils, virtualbox-ose-guest-source and
virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms. These package names are for squeeze but
work in wheezy/sid (transitional packages). The packages
virtualbox-dkms may also be needed if not already installed, not sure.
If the guest dkms module build fails, install it.

To have all the video drivers installed install xserver-xorg and
xserver-xorg-video-all. xserver-xorg-video-all will not install
non-free drivers and will make sure you have vesa available.
xserver-xorg-video-all is a package that can be safely removed later
if you really want to remove some of the drivers installed.

To install a desktop install the -session package of the preferred
desktop (lxsession, xfce4-session, gnome-session, etc) and xinit to
use startx. To use a desktop manager just install one (kdm, gdm3,
lightdm, etc).

You don't need nvidia drivers in the guest, you need the virtualbox
drivers, even for 3d accel in guest.

Hope it helps.


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shrink ext3 filesystem using e2fsprogs and fdisk

[Martin T]

I have a 500GB((131072000*4096)/1024^3) ext3 filesystem:

root@debian:~#dumpe2fs /dev/sda9 | egrep "Block count|Block size"
dumpe2fs 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
Block count:  131072000
Block size:   4096
root@debian:~#

..on a 904GB((1953523711-56924160)*512)/(1024^3) partition(sda9):

root@debian:~#fdisk -cul /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00062a0f

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *2048  684031  340992   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  686078  1953523711   9764188175  Extended
/dev/sda5  68608018262015 8787968   83  Linux
/dev/sda61826406424121343 2928640   83  Linux
/dev/sda7241233925614182316009216   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda85614387256922111  389120   83  Linux
/dev/sda956924160  1953523711   948299776   83  Linux
root@debian:~#


At the moment everything works, but if I shrink the size of the
/dev/sda9 partition from the beginning of the partition like this(sda9
is now 693GB which is more than enough to hold the 500GB file system):

root@debian:~#fdisk -cul /dev/sda

Disk /dev/sda: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 121601 cylinders, total 1953525168 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00062a0f

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *2048  684031  340992   83  Linux
/dev/sda2  686078  1953523711   9764188175  Extended
/dev/sda5  68608018262015 8787968   83  Linux
/dev/sda61826406424121343 2928640   83  Linux
/dev/sda7241233925614182316009216   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sda85614387256922111  389120   83  Linux
/dev/sda9   5  1953523711   726761856   83  Linux
root@debian:~#

..then file system is broken:

root@debian:~#dumpe2fs /dev/sda9
dumpe2fs 1.41.12 (17-May-2010)
dumpe2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sda9
Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock.
root@debian:~#

Is it possible to make partition smaller starting from the beginning?
If yes, do I need to somehow start file system from the end of the
partition?


regards,
martin


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Re: Installing Debian as VirtualBox guest - which videodriver to install?

[Scott Ferguson]

On 26/03/12 04:58, Csanyi Pal wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I just installed on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid host on VirtualBox
> the Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid as guset using the
> http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/mini.iso 
> 
> so I get virtual consoles but not a desktop environment.
> 
> I don't know whichvideodriver to install to get X Window on guest
> system? 
> 
> On host system I have installed xserver-xorg-video-nvidia. Should I
> install it on the guest system too?
> 
No. See the answers from Greg and Christofer and note that there are two
different virtualbox releases.

Greg is describing the procedure for virtualbox-ose and Christofer is
correct for virtualbox-4.1 (Oracle VM VirtualBox).

Aside from license, the difference is basically USB support.



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Re: Installing Debian as VirtualBox guest - which videodriver to install?

[Greg Madden]

On Sunday 25 March 2012 12:34:15 pm Christofer C. Bell wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Csanyi Pal  wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just installed on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid host on VirtualBox
> > the Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid as guset using the
> > http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/mini.iso
> >
> > so I get virtual consoles but not a desktop environment.
> >
> > I don't know whichvideodriver to install to get X Window on guest
> > system?
>
> You don't need to install one at all.  Install the packages
> build-essential and the appropriate linux-headers package for your
> system.  Then select "Install Guest Additions" from the VirtualBox
> "Devices" menu.  Run the "VBoxLinuxAdditions.run" script from the
> virtual CD that mounts.  Then reboot.
>
> That should be all there is to it.
>
> Note that you will need to rebuilt the Guest Additions every time the
> kernel is upgraded so you may prefer copying the
> VBoxLinuxAdditions.run file to somewhere in your guest's filesystem.
> I just put it in /root myself.
>
> --
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'virtualbox-ose-guest-dkms'

This package rebuilds the modules on any kernel update.
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Re: Installing Debian as VirtualBox guest - which videodriver to install?

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 12:58 PM, Csanyi Pal  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I just installed on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid host on VirtualBox
> the Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid as guset using the
> http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/mini.iso
>
> so I get virtual consoles but not a desktop environment.
>
> I don't know whichvideodriver to install to get X Window on guest
> system?

You don't need to install one at all.  Install the packages
build-essential and the appropriate linux-headers package for your
system.  Then select "Install Guest Additions" from the VirtualBox
"Devices" menu.  Run the "VBoxLinuxAdditions.run" script from the
virtual CD that mounts.  Then reboot.

That should be all there is to it.

Note that you will need to rebuilt the Guest Additions every time the
kernel is upgraded so you may prefer copying the
VBoxLinuxAdditions.run file to somewhere in your guest's filesystem.
I just put it in /root myself.

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Re: Best way to migrate disks

[Marc Auslander]

You are probably asking a more subtle question that I'm going to
answer but ...

As far as the root partition itself, just make a new file system in
the partition you want to be the new boot and use tar to copy the old
root over.  Make sure you don't copy anything mounted on root - just
root itself.

Then edit fstab in the obvious way to account for the new UUID of the
new root.

Assumine LILO can boot from the partition on the larger disk, fix
lilo.conf in the obvious way, run lilo, and remember to make the new
root partion bootable.


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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[Keith McKenzie]

I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in
the columns, just before the red zones).



Not sure if you've tried these:-

Alsamixer has 'mic-boost', 'capture', 'capture1', & 'internal mic 
boost'. (Press F4)


Also F6 might give another soundcard.


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Re: Best way to migrate disks

[Olaf Reitmaier Veracierta]

On 03/25/2012 12:44 PM, Marc Shapiro wrote:
Sorry, I just realized this morning that I had not mentioned that I am 
using lilo, not GRUB. 
Well, with dd is almost the same, just copy the first sector as I've 
shown it to you:


dd if=/dev/sda of=/dev/sdb bs=512 count=1

More info:

http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/olddoc/html/user_21-5.html

(NOTE: All three lvm partitions are in a single volume group, so that 
is all taken care of). 

You still can use dd to copy partitions between disks.

If the old partition you want to copy is on LVM you don't need to stop 
all services just make a snapshot volume then use dd.


  I may move the swap on the new drive into the lvm.  No reason not to 
really, is there? 
The only valid reason is an affirmative answer to: Are you going to 
resize your swap space in the future?


If I do that, however, it can wait until after I am able to boot from 
the new disk.

Yes, it can wait and you can be disable it if you want.

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[Bernard]

Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:37:12 +0200, Bernard wrote:

  

Camaleón wrote:



  

main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed



   ^^

Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than
sound :-?


  

It may be the case, since the image is not good either. It appears the
same as I could see it while recording, that is, in chunks... I mean, as
if the camera had been working on and off



Mmm, maybe is that Cheese is not well suited to get the best of HD cams, 
I mean, you may need more control over the video settings.


  

Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another
application (arecord)? How about running "alsamixer" (or your DE sound
applet) to be sure the "capture/input/mic" source control is at a high
level and not muted/lowered?
  
  
  

I tried both, recording is not muted, and I can play wav files by

$ play myfile.wav



What's the output of "arecord -l"? I ask becasue it can be that you have 
now two microphones (one coming from the sound card and other from the 
webcam) and need to define what's the default or which to use.
  


arecord -l says:

List of Capture Hardware devices

Card0: Intel [HDA Intel] device 0:
   ALC662 rev1 Analog [ALC662 rev1 Analog]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevices #0: subdevice #0

Card1 : U0x46d:0x821 [USB Device 0x46d:0x821], device 0: USB
   audio [USB Audio]
   Subdevices: 1/1
   Subdevice #0: subdevice #0


I have tried to see with alsamixer if something looked weird: recording 
levels as well as play levels on both cards seem OK (Green + while in 
the columns, just before the red zones).


Now, what happens if I try just recording voice, with and without the 
webcam connected ?  In both cases, it records ... next to nothing, but 
not quite nothing though. I just type:


$ rec testfile.wav

and I speak a few words... then CTRL C to quit, and:

$ play testfile.wav

I can hear next to nothing... but if I boost alsamixer cursors to the 
maximum (either with alsamixer in an xterm or using the icons on the 
gnome desk), then if it really is on the maximum (cursor columns gone 
full into the red), then I can record and play a sound that I can hear ; 
it is weak but still I can easily reckognize my voice.  In the other hand,


$ play any_other_wavfile_recorded_somewhere_else.wav

I get normal level good sound with alsamixer set to normal values for play

I have just tested a bit more with alsamixer, this time using my webcam 
and GUVCwiewer. If I boost the alsamixer settings to maximum (red 
level), then I get SOME sound in my videos, which plays back using, not 
vlc, but 'Totem'... But then the played back sound si very week and even 
cracky (distorded with kinds of cracks)... and absolutely no sound at 
all if the alsamixer parameters are not to the maximum.


As for Cheese, I just tested something else as just mentioned. It is 
GUVCwiewer. It looks a lot better... but still no sound or very bad and 
weak one as stated above.



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Re: Apt-pinning confusion

[Ramon Hofer]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:07:41 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 13:14:47 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> 
>> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 18:55:13 +, Camaleón wrote:
>  
 What do you think it would be better to completely go with testing.
>>> 
>>> Testing is currently quite stable but there are significant
>>> differences between wheezy and squeeze, like the gnome environment.
>> 
>> I think this won't make any difference for me because I will only use
>> the base system with xorg and xbmc without any window manager.
> 
> Oh, that will make things easier (in the event you want to go with
> testing) :-)
> 
>>> I'm not going to make any comments about pinning because I've never
>>> used but just a question: have you considered in using pinning only
>>> for the packages you want to be kept for a specific flavour? That is,
>>> being more "selective" to avoid additional problems or messing up too
>>> many packages.
>> 
>> This sounds good.
>> I thought I can do that by installing via "apt-get -t wheezy
>> alsa-utils".
> 
> Yes, if you manually specify in that way it's even safer.
> 
> (...)
> 
>> Unfortunately I don't have synaptic. I only have the terminal since I
>> don't want to use any window manager for xbmc.
> 
> Aptitude can be a good "replacement" for Synaptic.
> 
>> I can't as well install build-essential. There are many dependencies
>> which usually are solved automatically. I think this is something that
>> shouldn't be. When I want to install build- essential it asks for
>> libc6-dev which depends on libc but a newer version is to be installed:
>> 
>> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FCBUeaVg
> 
> $ sudo apt-get -t squeeze-backports install build-essential
> 
>> It seems as if I made a mess because there already is a libc6 package
>> from testing installed.
> 
> Mmm, I can't see such that package available for the backports :-?
> 
>>> Your first plan seems good, it may just need to be polished a bit :-)
>> 
>> Ok, thanks.
>> I will try to again maybe with a clean install again. Like that the
>> mess with the package dependencies should be gone.
> 
> Wow... no need to re-install :-), just be sure about the steps you're
> doing. Whether in doubt, launch aptitude and try from there, it usually
> provides insightful information when having to deal with different/mixed
> sources.

Thanks again for your help, Camaleón!

I now was able to install the backports kernel, nvidia-glx and add wheezy 
alsa.
The packages which I need for building xbmc are most from squeeze, some 
from backports and some from wheezy.
I was just trying to install each package from squeeze. If it didn't work 
I went for backports but most of them can't be found there so I went for 
wheezy.

Btw what's the difference between linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-686-pae and 
linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae and why are both in the backports repos. 
I was looking at packages.debian.org but couldn't find any explenation. 
Is there a place where I could find more infos?


Best regards
Ramon


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Re: Apt-pinning confusion

[Ramon Hofer]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 10:10:08 -0400, Rob Owens wrote:

> On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:15:10PM +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
>> Hi all
>> 
>> I'm trying to put the MythTV PVR XBMC version on my Shuttle box. I need
>> a newer alsa version than the one from Squeeze because the stable
>> version doesn't see the soundcard. So I wanted to install alsa from
>> testing.
>> And because I use a SSD I thought it would be a good idea to use the
>> squeeze-backports kernel.
>> 
> It might make your life a little bit easier to forget about pinning and
> just put this in you /etc/apt/apt.conf file:
> 
> APT::Default-Release "stable";
> 
> That will prevent your system from upgrading to Wheezy on you, but it'll
> allow you to install files from wheezy (provided wheezy is in your
> sources.list).

This makes it much easier.
Thanks alot for the tipp :-)


Best regards
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Installing Debian as VirtualBox guest - which videodriver to install?

[Csanyi Pal]

Hi,

I just installed on my Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid host on VirtualBox
the Debian GNU/Linux wheezy/sid as guset using the
http://d-i.debian.org/daily-images/amd64/daily/netboot/mini.iso 

so I get virtual consoles but not a desktop environment.

I don't know whichvideodriver to install to get X Window on guest
system? 

On host system I have installed xserver-xorg-video-nvidia. Should I
install it on the guest system too?

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Re: Best way to migrate disks

[Marc Shapiro]

On 03/24/12 23:58, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

On 3/25/2012 12:46 AM, Marc Shapiro wrote:

I have an old 40GB disk and a recently purchased 1TB disk.  The new disk
has been partitioned into a 2GB swap partition, two 500MB partitions
that are currently empty and the remainder is an LVM2 PV which I have
added to my VG, so I now have plenty of space.  So far, so good.

My problem is that I am still booting off of the 40GB disk and my /
partition has pretty much run out of space (it is about 280MB).  I want
to migrate everything from there into one of the 500MB partitions on the
new drive and boot from there.  What is the best way to do this?  Any
suggestions?


Need more details.  Output of fdisk -l for both drives, lilo/grub conf
files, and /etc/fstab would be helpful, as well as the LVM config.

Sorry, I just realized this morning that I had not mentioned that I am 
using lilo, not GRUB.  (NOTE: All three lvm partitions are in a single 
volume group, so that is all taken care of.  All that I need to migrate 
is the / partition so that I can get some extra space for it.  I may 
move the swap on the new drive into the lvm.  No reason not to really, 
is there?  If I do that, however, it can wait until after I am able to 
boot from the new disk.


/boot/lilo.conf:

boot=/dev/disk/by-id/ata-WDC_WD400EB-00CPF0_WD-WCAAT1261081
large-memory
compact
lba32
vga=normal
prompt
timeout=100
default=Linux

image=/vmlinuz
root="UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69"
initrd=/initrd.img
label=Linux
read-only

image=/vmlinuz.old
root="UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69"
initrd=/initrd.img.old
label="Linux_Old"
read-only

image=/boot/memtest86+.bin
label = memtest86+

#other=/dev/hdc1
#   label=Win98SE
#   map-drive=0x80
#   to=0x81
#   map-drive=0x81
#   to=0x80



As for the rest:
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
#   



UUID=5e0d4da4-aba3-4965-8fb4-788501b0fe69   /   ext3 
errors=remount-ro   0   1
UUID=babd50db-38b8-4b64-940a-6832af5bd0a9   noneswap 
sw 00
proc/proc   procdefaults 
0  0
none/proc/bus/usb   usbfs   defaults 
0  0
/dev/mapper/vg1-tmp /tmpext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-var2/varext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-usr /usrext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-photos  /usr/local/photos ext3  defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-home/home   ext3defaults 
0  2
/dev/mapper/vg1-vDisks  /home/testuser/VirtualBoxDisks  ext3 
defaults0   2


#
# Removeable Media
#

#/dev/lasonic   /media/mp3r vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
/dev/fd0/media/floppy   autouser,noauto 
0  0
/dev/cdrom5 /media/cdromiso9660 ro,user,noauto 
0  0
#/dev/sdb1  /media/pen  vfatuser,umask=,noauto 
0  0
#/dev/sdb1  /media/camera   vfatuser,umask=,noauto 
0  0
UUID=A8B0-984A  /media/mp3a vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
LABEL=PHILIPS   /media/mp3r vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=DA74-E37F  /media/sandisk  vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0   0
UUID=A8B0-984A  /media/eclipse  vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=261A-40DE  /media/kingston vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=0C50-B006  /media/mp3r2vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0  0
UUID=6A3D-C6A2  /media/pen/anna vfatdefaults,user,noauto 
0   0
obexfs#-b74:A7:22:01:5D:ED /media/phone fusedefaults,user,noauto 
0  0



Old drive:

Disk /dev/sda: 40.0 GB, 40020664320 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 4865 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0xa51aa51a

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sda1   *   1  36  289138+  83  Linux
/dev/sda2  37  72  289170   83  Linux
/dev/sda3  73232318081157+  8e  Linux LVM
/dev/sda42324486520418615   8e  Linux LVM


New Drive:

Disk /dev/sdc: 1000.2 GB, 1000204886016 bytes
222 heads, 30 sectors/track, 293322 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 6660 * 512 = 3409920 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x20677b30

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdc1   1 631 2101215   82  Linux swap / Solaris
/dev/sdc2 632 781  499500   83  Linux
/dev/sdc3 782 931  499500   83  Linux
/dev/sdc4 932  293322   973662030   8e  Linux LVM



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Re: Iceweasel privacy settings behave differently depending on user

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 21:49:09 +0700, Ken Heard wrote:

> My spouse and I are the only two users on our laptop, a Lenovo R61. The
> laptop OS is Lenny (still), and the version of Iceweasel is 3.6.26 from
> Lenny-backports.
> 
> In my spouse's privacy preference window "never remember history" is
> selected.  This preference is stable; it is never changed except by
> deliberate human action.
> 
> In my privacy preference window however, whenever I select "never
> remember history" and close that window, Iceweasel will never let me
> keep it.  

(...)

Something similar happened to me in Lenny when using Iceweasel (now still 
with Lenny but on Firefox 11), that some of the privacy settings did not 
stick despite I manually enabled the checkbox. As I finally removed the 
stock Iceweasel (3.0.x) I forgot about it.

What could you try to restore the functionality?

- Manually set the value from "about:config"
- Test with an empty profile

> Does anybody have an explanation for this behaviour?

Mmm... I'm not sure, but it could be due to a corrupted "*.sqlite" 
database file.

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Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude

[Osamu Aoki]

Hi,

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 11:01:38AM +0100, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:
> hi,
> I wanted to upgrade from Squeeze to Wheezy, and as I saw in several places
> that aptitude should be preferred to apt-get,  I first tried with it.
> I started with only 1 line in sources.list:
> deb http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free
> and tried several times  "aptitude safe-upgrade"
> Each time, aptitude stayed indefinitely on "resolving dependencies" and did
> nothing else.
> I then issued: "apt-get dist-upgrade", and all worked perfectly, in less
> than 30 minutes.

So your experience is that apt-get is better for such case :-)

The release note "4.4.6. Upgrading the system" has:
 
http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html#upgrading-full
 The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of aptitude
 for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades from lenny to
 squeeze.
 
> My question: is it better to also revert to apt-get for package management,
> or is the problem specific to the upgrade to a new release?
That was the consensus among DDs when releasing squeeze :-)

The rational for this is experience such as yours.

"Almost same" is not exactly "the same" between apt-get/aptitude.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal

Maybe, I should put more warning since aptitude dependency behaviour
seems to be changing a bitfor command line.

Osamu


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Iceweasel privacy settings behave differently depending on user

[Ken Heard]

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My spouse and I are the only two users on our laptop, a Lenovo R61. The
laptop OS is Lenny (still), and the version of Iceweasel is 3.6.26 from
Lenny-backports.

In my spouse's privacy preference window "never remember history" is
selected.  This preference is stable; it is never changed except by
deliberate human action.

In my privacy preference window however, whenever I select "never
remember history" and close that window, Iceweasel will never let me
keep it.  If I open that window immediately after I close it -- or
whenever I close Iceweasel and reopen it -- the selection will be
changed to "use custom settings for history", with the following boxes
checked:
"automatically start Aceweasel in a private browsing session"
"accept cookies from sites" and
"accept third party cookies"

As far as I can figure out the "never remember history" setting and the
"use custom settings for history" with those boxes checked have the same
effect.  I nevertheless find it strange that in the circumstances
described by spouse can use the "never remember history" setting;
whereas I cannot.

Does anybody have an explanation for this behaviour?

Regards, Ken Heard



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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 14:37:12 +0200, Bernard wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:

>>> main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed
>>> 
>>^^
>>
>> Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than
>> sound :-?
>>
>>
> It may be the case, since the image is not good either. It appears the
> same as I could see it while recording, that is, in chunks... I mean, as
> if the camera had been working on and off

Mmm, maybe is that Cheese is not well suited to get the best of HD cams, 
I mean, you may need more control over the video settings.

>> Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another
>> application (arecord)? How about running "alsamixer" (or your DE sound
>> applet) to be sure the "capture/input/mic" source control is at a high
>> level and not muted/lowered?
>>   
>>   
> I tried both, recording is not muted, and I can play wav files by
> 
> $ play myfile.wav

What's the output of "arecord -l"? I ask becasue it can be that you have 
now two microphones (one coming from the sound card and other from the 
webcam) and need to define what's the default or which to use.
 
> But, maybe "Cheese" is not a good choice for video recording with a
> webcam such as this ?  What else would you recommend ?  My purpose with
> this webcam is, for now, to use is as a video recorder, not for video
> chat as yet.

Well, yup, I'd say Cheese is not aimed for video recording but online 
chatting. You can try with video recording/capturing programs, for 
instance VLC, GUVCviewer, ffmpeg, mplayer or mencoder although there are 
more advanced/specialized tools for the matter but maybe they're too big 
for your purposes.

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Re: Apt-pinning confusion

[Rob Owens]

On Fri, Mar 23, 2012 at 12:15:10PM +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> Hi all
> 
> I'm trying to put the MythTV PVR XBMC version on my Shuttle box.
> I need a newer alsa version than the one from Squeeze because the stable 
> version doesn't see the soundcard. So I wanted to install alsa from 
> testing.
> And because I use a SSD I thought it would be a good idea to use the 
> squeeze-backports kernel.
> 
It might make your life a little bit easier to forget about pinning and
just put this in you /etc/apt/apt.conf file:

APT::Default-Release "stable";

That will prevent your system from upgrading to Wheezy on you, but it'll
allow you to install files from wheezy (provided wheezy is in your
sources.list).

-Rob


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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[Bernard]

Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:37:45 +0100, Bernard wrote:

  

I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video
using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record
using 'vlc'. I get this:

main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed


   ^^

Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than 
sound :-?


  
It may be the case, since the image is not good either. It appears the 
same as I could see it while recording, that is, in chunks... I mean, as 
if the camera had been working on and off

this line repeated a number of times.

The image is there though, but no sound



Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another 
application (arecord)? How about running "alsamixer" (or your DE sound 
applet) to be sure the "capture/input/mic" source control is at a high 
level and not muted/lowered?
  


I tried both, recording is not muted, and I can play wav files by

$ play myfile.wav

But, maybe "Cheese" is not a good choice for video recording with a 
webcam such as this ?  What else would you recommend ?  My purpose with 
this webcam is, for now, to use is as a video recorder, not for video 
chat as yet.



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Re: USB Drive

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 05:08:55 -0700, Charles Chambers wrote:

> I've just installed Debian 5.0 on an old computer, and I'm having
> problems getting a backup USB drive to automount.
> 
> I have a mount point set up at /media/usb, and I set it to be world
> readable (drwxrwxrwx).

It is better not using "/media" for static mount points. Anyway, if you 
have a DE that handles automount for you, it will automatically put the 
drive under "/media/label".
 
> I plug in the drive (it normalLy reads no prblem under Windows7), and I
> get an error message to the effect that a mount option is invalid.

Show us the "dmesg" output once you have attached the USB disk.
 
> I explicitly mount it ("mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb" in a root terminal),
> and the permissions promptly go to read only for root and nothing for
> anyone else (dr-x--) .  

(...)

Is the USB disk defined somewhere in /etc/fstab? 

If no, when you do a manual mount you also have to pass the permissions 
("mount /dev/sda1 /mnt -o uid=,gid,=..." whatever) for the partition to 
be mounted properly based on your own preferences which are dependant on 
the filesystm you're using on the unit (etx3/4 or ntfs/fat).

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[tv.deb...@googlemail.com]

On 24/03/2012 22:37, Bernard wrote:

Hi to Everyone !

I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video
using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record
using 'vlc'. I get this:

main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed

this line repeated a number of times.

The image is there though, but no sound

Thanks in advance for your input


P.S. : Debian Squeeze on that system.




This webcam (046d:0821) works in vlc in Wheezy/Sid, sound device is 
hw0,1 here but this might be different on your system. I use alsa+phonon 
(KDE), so pulse isn't getting in the way for me, maybe it is for you ?
Squeeze could be somehow too old for this camera (alsa's snd_usb_audio 
module), but I doubt it.



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Re: I accidentally installed lenny's linux-image/linux-header packages and I'm running Squeeze. What to do?

[Alex Hutton]

On 24 March 2012 04:25, Martin Steigerwald  wrote:
[…]
> I bet thats because the Squeeze kernel is still installed. Several kernels
> can be installed beside each other. But read on.
[…]
> These do not show the exact current state of the system. While dpkg.log
> shows what has been installed recently, it doesn´t tell at a short glance,
> whether the Squeeze kernel is still installed. And apitude search will
> also find packages which are not installed.
>
> apt-get or aptitude install linux-image-2.6.32-5-amd64 should give to the
> Squeeze kernel back in case it is removed.
>
> But please check first with
>
> dpkg -l | grep linux-image
>
> ls -l /boot
>
> whether the 2.6.32 kernel is still installed. I bet it is and then you do
> not have a problem at all. Having both a Lenny and a Squeeze kernel
> installed is the usual situation after an upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze.
>
> update-grub should be intelligent enough to put the most recent one on
> top. You can check this, by running it again or by viewing
> /boot/grub/grub.cfg oder menu.lst in case you still use GRUB 1.
>
[…]
>
> Ciao,
> --
> Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de
> GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA  B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7
>

Hi Martin,

That's brilliant. You were right. I had no problem at all. What made
me nervous was when I saw the grub configuration script being run by
aptitude, but you are right, it was smart that it left the existing
grub menu entries intact, and the most recent kernel is still at the
top of the menu.

So it would seem that it is safe to have Lenny repositories in the
sources.list below the Squeeze ones. I've commented them out anyway,
as I can't recall any specific packages that are from Lenny.

Cheers,
Alex


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USB Drive

[Charles Chambers]

I've just installed Debian 5.0 on an old computer, and I'm having
problems getting a backup USB drive to automount. 

I have a mount point set up at /media/usb, and I set it to be world
readable (drwxrwxrwx).

I plug in the drive (it normalLy reads no prblem under Windows7), and I
get an error message to the effect that a mount option is invalid.

I explicitly mount it ("mount /dev/sda1 /media/usb" in a root terminal),
and the permissions promptly go to read only for root and nothing for
anyone else (dr-x--) .  I ASLO get an error message that I do not
hvae the permissions to read the files on the drive at user level.

Can anyone suggest an  solution?




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Re: Apt-pinning confusion

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:46:27 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:

> On Fri, 23 Mar 2012 12:15:10 +, Ramon Hofer wrote:
> 
>> So I thought I'd go with Stable, the kernel from backports and alsa
>> from testing.
>> Unfortunately this doesn't work. I suppose my problem are wrong apt-
>> preferences numbers or something like this.
> 
> Could it be that it's not possible to have the squeeze-backports kernel,
> wheezy alsa-utils and any build-essential installed at the same time is
> not possible?

What makes you think that?

> Here's the output of apt-get install build-essential and apt-get -t
> wheezy install alsa-utils.
> 
> http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=njV7phnL

$ sudo apt-get install build-essential 

That went good.

sudo apt-get -t wheezy install alsa-utils

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libc6-dev : Breaks: gcc-4.4 (< 4.4.6-4) but 4.4.5-8 is to be installed
E: Broken packages

$ apt-cache policy gcc-4.4
gcc-4.4:
  Installed: 4.4.5-8
  Candidate: 4.4.5-8
  Version table:
 4.4.7-1 0
600 http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main i386 Packages
 *** 4.4.5-8 0
990 http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main i386 Packages
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Mmm, my guess (as I told you earlier in the first post) is that maybe you 
are being "too wide" with your pinning configuration and thus allowing 
other packages for being upgraded.

You can cherry pick the packages you want to get for wheezy (e.g., alsa-
utils) and keep the rest of the libraries stick to squeeze (gcc-4.4). 
There can be situations where this is not possible and you require to 
upgrade the libraries as well but better having a message warning, stop 
and decide what to do than worry.

> So I switched to the wheezy build essential. It deinstalled the 2.6
> headers.
> Then I was able to install alsa-utils from wheezy.
> 
> But when I want to install a dependency from xbmc "libcurl4-gnutls-dev"
> I have to install pkg-config which remove build-essential again.
> 
> Maybe it's easier for me to switch to Wheezy and install the libbost
> package from Squeeze.

I would consider installing wheezy, you will get less headches and most 
recent packages. You can do a parallel install (or use a VM) and see how 
it goes.

> Or am I missing something?

I don't know if this can be done with a fine-grained pinning 
configuration, let's see what others suggest.

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Re: can't get sound to work with webcam Logitech C910

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:37:45 +0100, Bernard wrote:

> I just bought the above mentioned web camera, and, if I record a video
> using Cheese, the sound is not there when I try displaying the record
> using 'vlc'. I get this:
> 
> main subpicture error : blending YUVA to I444 failed
   ^^

Mmm, the above error looks more close to be related with image than 
sound :-?

> this line repeated a number of times.
> 
> The image is there though, but no sound

Have you tried your microphone from Gnome sound recorder or another 
application (arecord)? How about running "alsamixer" (or your DE sound 
applet) to be sure the "capture/input/mic" source control is at a high 
level and not muted/lowered?

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Re: ethernet card problem

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:43:08 +1000, Alan Kerns wrote:

(no html, please)

> The other day I installed debian-6.0.4-i386 on my backup computer and it
> worked so well that I decided to install debian-6.0.4-amd64 on my main
> computer.
> The install begins smoothly but stops dead when looking for network
> hardware.
> The unseen hardware is Realtek RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit
> Ethernet Controller.
> The hardware which worked fine on my i386 machine is not Realtek but I
> think Silicon Integrated Systems.
> 
> tells me this Reatek hardware "works fine". 

Usually, most of the intel and realtek chipset based ethernet cards work 
out-of-the-box, with exceptions, of course.

> Like hell it does! Where can I find out what ethernet cards will really
> work fine with squeeze. 

What I do to test my hardware before installing is loading a LiveCD. This 
helps to find the most common troubles, that is, with the vga and network 
card.

> I'll go and buy one to save myself a lot of hassle and frustration. I
> have the latest realtek-firmware installed on my Linux Mint Debian
> Edition which I have been using for some months; but that's no help
> when installing squeeze from a CD-ROM on a different partition.

Your card may need a firmware file in order to work properly. You can 
install Debian from DVD and thus avoid using/configuring your network 
card and afterwards... your problems will continue :-P

The RTL8111/8168B NIC under Linux and the r8168 driver
http://superuser.com/questions/396071/the-rtl8111-8168b-nic-under-linux-and-the-r8168-driver.

It seems to be a problematic chipset.

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Re: Best way to migrate disks

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 22:46:21 -0700, Marc Shapiro wrote:

> I have an old 40GB disk and a recently purchased 1TB disk.  The new disk
> has been partitioned into a 2GB swap partition, two 500MB partitions
> that are currently empty and the remainder is an LVM2 PV which I have
> added to my VG, so I now have plenty of space.  So far, so good.
> 
> My problem is that I am still booting off of the 40GB disk and my /
> partition has pretty much run out of space (it is about 280MB).  I want
> to migrate everything from there into one of the 500MB partitions on the
> new drive and boot from there.  What is the best way to do this?  Any
> suggestions?

I would try with Clonezilla run from a LiveCD.

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Re: US Weather Bureau video displays have stopped working

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 21:55:53 -0400, Edward C. Jones wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
> 
> Ensure your browser is giving preference to the Flash Player plugin over
> Gnash.
> 
> I installed flashplugin-nonfree and the problem went away with no
> changes in IceWeasel's settings.  I suspect that the security update for
> gnash had something to do with the problem.

Yes, I discovered some time ago, that when it comes to Firefox plugins 
"times matter". That is, the most updated plugin file there exists takes 
preference over others so if your gnash plugin was updated recently, it 
will become the default for the browser.

I have solved this by "touching" the ".so" file and thus updating its 
"last modified" date:

touch .mozilla/firefox/*.default/plugins/libflashplayer.so

It's like magic. After that (and having restarted the browser), the flash 
player plugin reclaims its realm.

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Re: Logs normalization (was: Can no longer mount SDHC card)

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 14:54:35 -0400, Rick Thomas wrote:

> On Mar 24, 2012, at 12:58 PM, Camaleón wrote:
> 
>> Well, it's far more simpler than that: I was only "whining" for not
>> having the same log files, located in the same place and holding the
>> same
>> information between the different distributions :-)
> 
> Ahhh... The joy of Linux!  /-;

Ye-ah :-)
 
> Linux is all about "choices".

Yes, but good practices neither hurt.

> Sometimes we like that -- we call it "freedom". 

And we also say is "well-designed", "well-conducted".

> Sometimes we don't -- then we call it "chaos".

And there's also a weird joy in that chaos, we (linux users) must be a 
bit masochists :-P

> Enjoy!

Always!

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Re: is there anti censor software in Debian packages?

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 04:26:11 +0800, Long Wind wrote:

> it seems that I have to use freegate with XP

You mean native windows xp? It does not work from wine? :-?

> Thank Camaleón and Rob!

You're welcome.

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Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 24 Mar 2012 12:40:12 -0600, Javier Vasquez wrote:

> On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 11:10 AM, Camaleón  wrote:

 You may also consider filing a bug, since the more people report
 problems with Debian's new, absurdly small /tmp, the more likely it
 is to get fixed.
>>
>> +5
>>
>>> Why?
>>
>> Because the default is giving some headaches to the users?
>>
>>
> How many?  Or how many would you consider critical mass to make things
> change?

Many is many (enough to catch other user's attention) ;-)

There is a refrain we use in Spain that says: "Cuando el río suena, agua 
lleva" or in English "Where there's smoke, there's fire". A default 
setting should not make noise and when people starts complaining about it 
is not a good sign.

> To me it's just not possible to provide defaults satisfying all users.

Of course. 

But when something that was working stops doing it my auto-defense system 
sends me a warn (beep, beep!) and I have to find what have caused the 
problem. When a default setting is causing the problem then the default 
is not good for me. When other users complain for the same issue, then 
the default is neither good for they and it can be a signal for that 
default is reviewed and commented with other community of users to get 
more feedback.

> The important thing for the distro is to make sure to provide options so
> the user can tweak the system as he/she wants/needs.  Not that it will
> be perfect by default for his/her needs.  And this is already the case
> for this tmpfs thing.

(...)

Sure, but there's always room for improvement and this is how open 
communities work. Choosing a bad default setting can be seen as something 
annoying for power users who change it and end of the problem, but a 
newbie or newcomer can simply think: "heck, what a bad system is this 
linux thingy that gets out of memory for running a simple uncompressing 
task...".

There are defaults that make more sense than others and defaults should 
me IMO, as neutral as possible :-)

>> There was a recent discussion in this same list about that entitled
>> "[Feedback needed] Setting the right size for /tmp" (it was opened by
>> me), I would recommend reading people's comments to get a wider outlook
>> on this with their pros and cons.
> 
> With so much traffic, I usually miss some e-mails...  I'll have to look
> for that one you started...

Sorry for not having attached the link, I was a bit hurry. Here it is:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2011/11/msg02155.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/02/msg01614.html
http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/03/msg00277.html

(the thread was splitted bewteen different months)

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Re: ethernet card problem

[Scott Ferguson]

On 25/03/12 20:45, Alan Kerns wrote:
> Thanks Scott.
> This gets more fascinating and bizarre.
> Option (1) seems to require implementation from within a working system
> the same as the target system for the installer.

Yes. I don't know your situation Alan, so I quickly gave a list of
options to cover a variety of needs.

> So to Option (2). Accessing the website and each subdirectory was
> agonizingly slow. But we got there in the end. And
>  was downloaded, md5sum checked, and
> burnt to a CD.
> Thence to installation - and the same deadstop occurred when searching
> for network hardware.

Alt+F4 would probably give you some more insight into what the install
is doing at that point.

> When I got to ejecting the CD, I noticed the file manager named it
> .
> That is: it was actually the standard installer.

Were the md5 sums the same for both CDs? If they're *not* the same, then
neither are the CDs, regardless of the name.

> Flabergasted, I very carefully repeated the procedure with precisely the
> same outcome.

That is also strange

> Dear oh dear, what the hell is going on here? Are there saboteurs at
> work? Paranoid question - but it makes no sense: the live DVD boots OK,
> so must include the non-free firmware, but the installer launched from
> within the live DVD cannot access the firmware that is on the DVD.

It's a problem the Live CD conveniently sidesteps. ie. the driver won't
work until the system is installed, with a net install the system can't
be installed until the driver works

> The hours wasted, and the mounting frustration, lead me to ask again:
> what ethernet card(s) will definitely work with the standard installer?


AMD PC-Net 32
I've met very very few NICs that aren't supported.

Realtek have recently exhibited problems during the installation,
apparently it doesn't happen after the install so.

If it were me:-

install another NIC for the install if you've got one handy (disable the
other in the BIOS if it's built-in, remove it if it's not).

OR

partition and format the drives, populate /var/cache/apt/archives with
the needed packages prior to running the installer




> Cheers
> Alan Kerns


I appreciate that you find your experience frustrating - please consider:-
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Never send your messages in HTML; use plain text instead.

And that some of us find top posting so annoying we refuse to deal with it.

There are some tips on how not to annoy the list here:-
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>>
>>
>> Please don't post in HTML.
>>
>>


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Re: ethernet card problem

[Alan Kerns]

Thanks Scott.
This gets more fascinating and bizarre.
Option (1) seems to require implementation from within a working system 
the same as the target system for the installer.
So to Option (2). Accessing the website and each subdirectory was 
agonizingly slow. But we got there in the end. And 
 was downloaded, md5sum checked, and 
burnt to a CD.
Thence to installation - and the same deadstop occurred when searching 
for network hardware.
When I got to ejecting the CD, I noticed the file manager named it 
.

That is: it was actually the standard installer.
Flabergasted, I very carefully repeated the procedure with precisely the 
same outcome.
Dear oh dear, what the hell is going on here? Are there saboteurs at 
work? Paranoid question - but it makes no sense: the live DVD boots OK, 
so must include the non-free firmware, but the installer launched from 
within the live DVD cannot access the firmware that is on the DVD.
The hours wasted, and the mounting frustration, lead me to ask again: 
what ethernet card(s) will definitely work with the standard installer?

Cheers
Alan Kerns

On 03/25/2012 03:57 PM, Scott Ferguson wrote:

On 25/03/12 16:43, Alan Kerns wrote:

Realtek RTL8111/8168B

As you've noted - that card requires firmware, you can build an
installer that contains it[*1] or download one[*2].

If you have managed to install the base system you just need the
firmware-realtek package from non-free:-
http://debian.lcs.mit.edu/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

[*1]
http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware

[*2]
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/



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Kind regards

Re: aptitude failure to fetch

[Tony Baldwin]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 05:00:45AM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 04:44:16PM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> > Pada 25 Mac 2012 4:35 PTG, Tony Baldwin  menulis:
> > > Aptitude is not fetching updates.
> > > (neither is apt-get).
> > >
> > > I see
> > > W: Failed to fetch
> > > http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/Release  Unable to find
> > > expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file
> > > (malformed Release file?)
> > >
> > > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> > > ones used instead.
> > >
> > 
> > have you tried:
> > 
> > apt-get clean
> > apt-get autoremove
> > apt-get update
> 
> Yes, and I still get the same messages.

Okay, I found it was all "experimental" repos causing this.
Also, I had entries for both mozilla.debian.org iceweasel-release
and icweasel-5.0 (while I currently have iceweasel-11).
So, removing the extraneous iceweasel-5.0 (leaving iceweasel-release)
and removing "experimental" from all entries
seems to have resolved the matter.
I don't know why I had iceweasel-5.0.

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Re: aptitude failure to fetch

[Tony Baldwin]

On Sun, Mar 25, 2012 at 04:44:16PM +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote:
> Pada 25 Mac 2012 4:35 PTG, Tony Baldwin  menulis:
> > Aptitude is not fetching updates.
> > (neither is apt-get).
> >
> > I see
> > W: Failed to fetch
> > http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/Release  Unable to find
> > expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file
> > (malformed Release file?)
> >
> > E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> > ones used instead.
> >
> 
> have you tried:
> 
> apt-get clean
> apt-get autoremove
> apt-get update

Yes, and I still get the same messages.

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Re: aptitude failure to fetch

[Umarzuki Mochlis]

Pada 25 Mac 2012 4:35 PTG, Tony Baldwin  menulis:
> Aptitude is not fetching updates.
> (neither is apt-get).
>
> I see
> W: Failed to fetch
> http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/Release  Unable to find
> expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file
> (malformed Release file?)
>
> E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
> ones used instead.
>

have you tried:

apt-get clean
apt-get autoremove
apt-get update

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aptitude failure to fetch

[Tony Baldwin]

Aptitude is not fetching updates.
(neither is apt-get).

I see
W: Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/squeeze/updates/Release  Unable to find
expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file
(malformed Release file?)

W: Failed to fetch
http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze-proposed-updates/Release
Unable to find expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in
Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.debian.org/debian/dists/squeeze/Release
Unable to find expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in
Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

W: Failed to fetch
http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/dists/squeeze-backports/Release
Unable to find expected entry  experimental/binary-amd64/Packages in
Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)

W: Failed to fetch
http://mozilla.debian.net/dists/squeeze-backports/Release  Unable to
find expected entry  iceweasel-5.0/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index
file (malformed Release file?)

E: Some index files failed to download, they have been ignored, or old
ones used instead.


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