Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012, Paul E Condon wrote: Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and is, for its robustness, the preferred program for package management from console to perform system installation and major system upgrades to releases posterior to Lenny. ^ The better English word to use here is 'prior', which means earlier in time rather than the backside of, As far as I know, Squeeze is posterior to Lenny, and the recommended tool to upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze is apt-get -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1204020832530.30...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: OT:change of mail provider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 23:48, richard wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:11:21 -0700 Paul Johnson > wrote: > >> On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:30 AM, richard >> wrote: >> >>> Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, >>> please explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able >>> to see my first posting without send a post ? >> >> Post a relevant reply to an existing thread. Test messages are >> banned on the Debian lists, see >> http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct >> >> > > Try reading previous replies, replying to a existing thread would > not work, the test was justified. I think that people usually read their emails in time order, so it's possible that some replies are left unseen until emails before it are read and replied. > I also said PLEASE IGNORE. THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH > POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED PREMADONNAS THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF > CRITICISM. If you look on thread history, there are only about 20 > that regularly offer help and advice. There are many more that will > jump on any excuse to demonstrate their egotistical self > importance, did I mean to put an "r" in that. Or are they just > control freaks ? > > - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeT3GAAoJEE21PP6CpGco5l4P/i3+hP6sFPuHsS3sTofXbDeS tcCBnFcq4XmmrvkFPvyzJMgCpsBNbTcfyE5NKLeT9e6eNJ7UCBtcflE5pZH26Zgb gkjdSLtN+hU6eTHkao60hkLx6yGb1WD0eJPMq6oW7gWM/xvbBN6qt2My33854WhC 0PtLCPvlIc/1031OZbBDuo7ebD1FQNg4NW1XNYtATcdhVyfaRsddNqaf3i/aFGO+ 8Ty+tcms8FQKTOV2GWNjXjdfMAPDEEoj4qhJt2ekXF3z1Y5vJVxfN4L2NN7l7LwW X63bpFoWmDr588LoNxjZd6Mylr7KdV4uAHT4D7cgWW6qWK28QvlCZJ9ORGK93O+Y zSvYYa4nYajRNSQxqL6ucuQBOzsw1OwloegjjtqCpyCHdauyP9Fa43LFo4+o9TYh CkGMyuL6ikl2kiXL1yeQwLu3b2OAI8LTaMBac/aZCLXtSWRdgD7A/oB8ExDyAusw jpoeWGx2bb+z5920/ctuIfDMH3vFprrkr5iM+uedeF6jHxNd3gFeNcej1l9snk5x vv5EZbTkCwdQbZxW40/0XHNllxD2l217Y3xJlij/zp649LWBGz70za9RNLtqDYDt 2OXndYukiUM6OEqgSr4ylCbYgsmh6/6n75NMKFqnrcwjeQQCb7Sbozg0KyliAdBt 3s46dkSAcWfiTG9Z6duI =huzt -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f793dcb.2060...@hotmail.com
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On 02/04/12 02:24, Camaleón wrote: > What I want to avoid is Google getting too deep into my life. Agreed. The most significant step for me (for getting off my ISP address; I've never used gmail) was getting my own domain. And I currently lease a VM to run my MTA (postfix/dovecot) - shared with a friend to reduce cost. Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f791eb8.1080...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:18:23 +, I wrote: >> I'm running testing (Wheezy). A couple of weeks ago a problem >> started with printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP). On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 23:01:22 +0100, Brian replied: > Read the bugs for cups-filters and decide whether installing the version > in unstable is worth installing. The bugs do look similar, but I'm having trouble installing the packages from unstable. I always thought the way to go was (e.g.) apt-get -t unstable install cups-filters but this gives E: The value 'unstable' is invalid for APT::Default-Release as such a \ release is not available in the sources "Sid" instead of "unstable" also fails. I tried downloading the packages manually and using "dpkg -i", but the chain of dependencies was getting too scary. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20120402t034156-...@post.gmane.org
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On 02/04/12 07:12, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, richard wrote: > >> THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED PREMADONNAS >> THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF CRITICISM. > > Can we get this guy tossed out the door? Talk about a negative nancy. > > All caps? Obvious trolling? Dozens of stupid questions, arguments and inane comments? Just add his posts to the Big Brown filter for the round filing bin. Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78f840.3070...@gmail.com
Re: Icedove and Enigmail
On 02/04/12 03:15, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 01.04.2012 19:30, Sian Mountbatten wrote: >> On 01/04/12 15:00, Camaleón wrote: >>> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:07:48 +0300, Matthias Andersson wrote: >>> The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove 3.1.16. Is there a version that will work or another extension that will perform the same task (gpg encryption)? The question has been *answered*, with a link to the appropriate version of Enigmail needed. > > I am using Icedove 10.0.3-3 and Enigmail 2:1.4-1 too. > > % lsb_release -a > No LSB modules are available. > Distributor ID: Debian > Description:Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) > Release:unstable > Codename: sid > > I think that it's safe to upgrade those two packages from Sid (but I > am not fully sure and do it with your own responsibility...). > http://packages.debian.org/sid/icedove > http://packages.debian.org/sid/enigmail If you are running stable it's best *not* to pull packages from Sid. Instead use squeeze or experimental backports:- /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla-icedove-esr.list=== # wget -O- -q http://mozilla.debian.net/archive.asc | gpg --import # currently version 10.0.3 deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports icedove-esr === OR ===/etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozilla-icedove-release.list # wget -O- -q http://mozilla.debian.net/archive.asc | gpg --import # currently version 5.0.1 deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports icedove-release === Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78f4df.9030...@gmail.com
Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude
On 20120401_204502, Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Lisi wrote: > > >Tenses are often very difficult for non-native speakers of English to > >understand. > > It's funny. Do you really think that the the meaning of the past > tense is different in other languages!? > IMO, your interpretation of the past tense is wrong: The fact that a > statement was written in the past never implied, in any language, > that > it is no more valid. Example: > > "Pasteur recommended to wash hands frequently" > > If the old statement is no more valid, that needs to be specified > explicitly, preferably in the same sentence or the next one, > as in the following (half-imaginary) example: > > : "Pasteur recommended to boil water before drinking it, but this is no more > needed in most modern countries" > > So, to come back to Debian upgrade, in the following sentence > > The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of aptitude > for the upgrade. > > the past tense is obviously used because this recommendation was > written in the past, but it is nowhere writen that it is no more > valid, except for > upgrades from Debian 5.0 to Debian 6.0. For example, reading that, > I would still use aptitude to upgrade from Debian 4.0 to Debian 5.0 > If you want an other proof that I am right, look at section 4.2 > >Please follow the instructions in the Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux >5.0 to upgrade to 5.0 first. > > Please note that "follow" is not at the past tense! > > On the contrary, reading: > >apt-get is the preferred program for package management from >console to perform system installation and major system upgrades > > I would use apt-get to upgrade to 5.0 Please note the plural, and > that there is not a single restriction > for the concerned realeases > > So, I persist to say that the 2 sentences are contradictory. I'll > propose a slight modification to remove this contradiction: > > 1/ in 4.4.6, replace > > The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of > aptitude for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades > from lenny to squeeze. > > by > > The recommended tool for system upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze > is apt-get. For upgrades to previous releases, it is aptitude > > 2/ in the Debian faq, replace > > Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and is > the preferred program for package management from console to perform > system installation and major system upgrades for its robustness. > > by > > Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and is, > for its robustness, the preferred program for package management from > console to perform system installation and major system upgrades to > releases posterior to Lenny. ^ The better English word to use here is 'prior', which means earlier in time rather than the backside of, I think. American English is my first language and the only natural language in which I have any facility, but Debian is international with much of the documentation available only in English. That documentation should be understandable to persons who only understand English with the continual help of an English to language X dictionary or with the help of a friend who speaks English but has no understanding of computers. Please do sweat the details of wording. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401234947.gk3...@big.lan.gnu
Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang
On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:18:23 +, Steve Kleene wrote: > If I cancel the print job, the job is deleted from the list, but the printer > Status is still "Processing" and process 8190 hangs around. The calling > process (8014) is /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > > Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks. Read the bugs for cups-filters and decide whether installing the version in unstable is worth installing. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401220122.GV16316@desktop
Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude
On Sunday 01 April 2012 19:45:02 Pierre Frenkiel wrote: > On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Lisi wrote: > > Tenses are often very difficult for non-native speakers of English to > > understand. > > It's funny. Do you really think that the the meaning of the past tense > is different in other languages!? Yes, particularly in French. The passé simple and the English preterite appear the same, but in fact are quite different. The passé composé appears the same as teh English perfect tense, but in fact is quite different.I could give you numerous other examples. > IMO, your interpretation of the past tense is wrong: The fact that > a statement was written in the past never implied, in any language, that > it is no more valid. Example: > > "Pasteur recommended to wash hands frequently" > I give you: "Pasteur used to recommend that people should wash their hands frequently" is a use of the past tense that clearly says that that statement is no longer true. In your words, it clearly implies that it is no longer valid. Etc. You are quite wrong in the case you are arguing. Your English is extremely good for a Frenchman, but one needs the rider. English tenses and French tenses differ both in usage and in meaning, and there are more of them in English. It is clear that you have not fully grasped the correct usage in English. > If the old statement is no more valid, that needs to be specified > explicitly, preferably in the same sentence or the next one, No, it doesn't. There is no point in carrying on with this. You would obviously be prepared to insist that the world is flat rather than admit that you might have made a mistake. Lisi > as in the following (half-imaginary) example: > : "Pasteur recommended to boil water before drinking it, but this is no > : more > >needed in most modern countries" > > So, to come back to Debian upgrade, in the following sentence > > The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of aptitude > for the upgrade. > > the past tense is obviously used because this recommendation was written > in the past, but it is nowhere writen that it is no more valid, except for > upgrades from Debian 5.0 to Debian 6.0. For example, reading that, > I would still use aptitude to upgrade from Debian 4.0 to Debian 5.0 > If you want an other proof that I am right, look at section 4.2 > > Please follow the instructions in the Release Notes for Debian > GNU/Linux 5.0 to upgrade to 5.0 first. > > Please note that "follow" is not at the past tense! > > On the contrary, reading: > > apt-get is the preferred program for package management from > console to perform system installation and major system upgrades > > I would use apt-get to upgrade to 5.0 > Please note the plural, and that there is not a single restriction > for the concerned realeases > > So, I persist to say that the 2 sentences are contradictory. I'll > propose a slight modification to remove this contradiction: > > 1/ in 4.4.6, replace > >The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of >aptitude for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades >from lenny to squeeze. > > by > >The recommended tool for system upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze >is apt-get. For upgrades to previous releases, it is aptitude > > 2/ in the Debian faq, replace > > Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and is > the preferred program for package management from console to perform > system installation and major system upgrades for its robustness. > > by > > Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and > is, for its robustness, the preferred program for package management from > console to perform system installation and major system upgrades to > releases posterior to Lenny. > > > -- > Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204012316.44915.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:12:15 -0700, Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, richard wrote: > >> THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED PREMADONNAS >> THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF CRITICISM. > > Can we get this guy tossed out the door? Talk about a negative nancy. Already killfiled here under his new name - rich...@g8jvm.com (and long ago killfiled under the old one - richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jlajt0$fh2$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: 2nd try: reboot hangs
Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:31:31 -0400, Miles wrote in message <4f75a7a3.4030...@meetinghouse.net>: - or something else? ..you've tried a kexec reboot? No... Looks like the Xen version of kexec doesn't support an amd64 kernel. Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78cddc.4060...@meetinghouse.net
Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:18:23 +, I wrote: >> I'm running testing (Wheezy). A couple of weeks ago a problem >> started with printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP). On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 21:51:44 +0100, richard replied: > there has been some problems with cups, which seems no to be cleared in the > last update from unstable ... quite possible the behaviour you are seeing > is related. > HTH That does help to know. I guess I'll wait a bit to see if it gets fixed. Otherwise I might need to undo recent cups-related upgrades, of which there have been about 12. For now at least I can send PostScript straight to /dev/lp0. Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20120401t231940-...@post.gmane.org
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:12:15 -0700 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, richard wrote: > > > THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED > > PREMADONNAS THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF CRITICISM. > > Can we get this guy tossed out the door? Talk about a negative nancy. > > Uhm if you want that, does that means you are a tosser? -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401221652.50739...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 1:48 PM, richard wrote: > THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED PREMADONNAS > THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF CRITICISM. Can we get this guy tossed out the door? Talk about a negative nancy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/campm96pvff5ugn39qnd4rbtwrtnaueem3jyjthhagwz9odm...@mail.gmail.com
octave versus scilab
hi, I want to choose between octave and scilab, somebody can give us an overview about advantages and disadvantages for each. Now I am using scilab 5.3 and I have a problem ( with graphic interface) because it uses java and opengl for the interface. the devloppers said that the pb will be fixed in next version??!!! I want to switch to octave, before i want to be sure that is the good decision!! thanks for help regards
Re: print jobs to parallel printer now hang
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 19:18:23 + Steve Kleene wrote: > I'm running testing (Wheezy). A couple of weeks ago a problem > started with printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP). > > This test with a PostScript file succeeds: > cat test.ps >/dev/lp0 > so the printer itself isn't busted. > > But this fails: > lpr -P HP_LaserJet_5MP -o InputSlot=BypassTray -o PageSize=Letter \ >-o Duplex=None test.ps > > where HP_LaserJet_5MP is the name CUPS has for the printer. I have > tried deleting and redefining (several ways) the printer at > localhost:631, and I have gone so far as to try this: > > apt-get purge cups cups-bsd > apt-get install cups cups-bsd > > and then define a printer. All of these have failed. > > Here are the symptoms of failure. The printer's lights show it is > receiving the job, but it doesn't print. At the CUPS interface, the > Job State says "processing since ...". The Printer Status is > "Processing". The process list shows a process that hangs (keeping > the fans working hard): > > F UID PID PPID PRI NIVSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TTYTIME > COMMAND 4 7 8190 8014 20 0 5916 1140 - > R? 0:58 \ parallel:/dev/lp0 2 steve test.ps 1 > Duplex=None finishings=3 \ InputSlot=BypassTray number-up=1 > PageSize=Letter \ > job-uuid=urn:uuid:0f0b7d42-d03a-3465-5812-fea113f649b4 \ > job-originating-host-name=localhost time-at-creation=106577 \ > time-at-processing=106577 > > If I cancel the print job, the job is deleted from the list, but the > printer Status is still "Processing" and process 8190 hangs around. > The calling process (8014) is /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. > > Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks. > > Hi there has been some problems with cups, which seems no to be cleared in the last update from unstable, silly things ling printing blank test pages, no accepting network printing, so quite possible the behaviour you are seeing is related. HTH -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401215144.54c73...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
Camaleón wrote: El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió: (sending back to the list) Camaleón wrote: Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who participate in the mailing lists. The question does raise two interesting points: - what IS the "official" process for setting rules (presumably, since the Debian project hosts these lists, and the servers they run on, somebody, through some process, has the authority to set rules for the lists, and post those rules to lists.debian.org) - but what are the details? anybody know? I don't know, but the way this workes in other projects I've participated these conventions are made and developed by their user members, which includes all of us. Right... but in this case, the Debian project is a pretty big one, with some formal governance, and the rules are written to govern a whole bunch of lists. So I kind of wonder if there's any formality somewhere along the chain, like there is with committing things to the Debian repos. Just sort of curious at this point. Cheers, Miles -- In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice. In practice, there is. Yogi Berra -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78bf5e.1070...@meetinghouse.net
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:11:21 -0700 Paul Johnson wrote: > On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:30 AM, richard wrote: > > > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please > > explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my > > first posting without send a post ? > > Post a relevant reply to an existing thread. Test messages are banned > on the Debian lists, see > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct > > Try reading previous replies, replying to a existing thread would not work, the test was justified. I also said PLEASE IGNORE. THIS LIST SEEMS TO HAVE A HIGH POPULATION OF SELF APPOINTED PREMADONNAS THAT ARE ONLY CAPABLE OF CRITICISM. If you look on thread history, there are only about 20 that regularly offer help and advice. There are many more that will jump on any excuse to demonstrate their egotistical self importance, did I mean to put an "r" in that. Or are they just control freaks ? -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401214805.66507...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: [dm-crypt] Help needed please with luks volume
On 04/01/2012 09:09 PM, Bhasker C V wrote: > Hi all > > Sorry for the cross-list posting; I think this will help. > > I have a luks formatted volume and on debian this volume just stopped > working after a dist-upgrade > The error reported is as below > > > $ sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc dsk > LUKS keyslot 6 is invalid. > LUKS keyslot 7 is invalid. > $ cryptsetup --version > cryptsetup 1.4.1 > $ uname -a > Linux bcv 3.2.9 #1 SMP Sat Mar 10 20:36:56 GMT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux > > Whereas when used in an older version (in my office) this disk works > perfectly fine and I am able to view data. Hi, see http://code.google.com/p/cryptsetup/wiki/FrequentlyAskedQuestions#4._Troubleshooting and http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=662768#10 I think it is exactly your problem, your LUKS header is corrupted by written partition table signature - but it can be fixed. If you want, send me (in private mail) the first 4k of your LUKS device (IOW the visible part, no keyslot data) and I can fix that. IOW output of "dd if=/dev/ of=bck.img bs=1k count=4 > Can someone help please ? Or is this a bug introduced in the newer > versions ? See my comment on the bug - it is additional safety check, using corrupted header can cause data corruption later. (If there are more cases, I'll enable repair code by default but it seems this problem is very rare. It is not bug in cryptsetup, just previous version ignored unsafe keyslot offsets.) Milan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78adbd.1060...@redhat.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 2:30 AM, richard wrote: > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please explain > how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first > posting without send a post ? Post a relevant reply to an existing thread. Test messages are banned on the Debian lists, see http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPM96rCs2vd99pi0WLYk7h7jOgZWJzc-o=lbhdxb_cd_mw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: OT: change of mail provider
In linux.debian.user, Camaleón wrote: > > I don't use Gmail's webmail but Mutt and Pan (newsreader). > Me too, except it's mutt and slrn. The mail for my domains is hosted by gmail for four years now, never had any trouble beyond an outage that lasted about four hours once. -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401192951.GA8673@radhesyama
Re: OT:change of mail provider
> > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please explain > how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first > posting without send a post ? > You could always say something trivial and harmless, without mentioning "test" (which makes some people freak out for some reason). In fact, I was looking for just such an opportunity myself when I encountered your message, so thanks! :D -- ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ ♫ ❤ Indulekha -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401191054.GA8331@radhesyama
print jobs to parallel printer now hang
I'm running testing (Wheezy). A couple of weeks ago a problem started with printing to my parallel printer (HP LaserJet 5MP). This test with a PostScript file succeeds: cat test.ps >/dev/lp0 so the printer itself isn't busted. But this fails: lpr -P HP_LaserJet_5MP -o InputSlot=BypassTray -o PageSize=Letter \ -o Duplex=None test.ps where HP_LaserJet_5MP is the name CUPS has for the printer. I have tried deleting and redefining (several ways) the printer at localhost:631, and I have gone so far as to try this: apt-get purge cups cups-bsd apt-get install cups cups-bsd and then define a printer. All of these have failed. Here are the symptoms of failure. The printer's lights show it is receiving the job, but it doesn't print. At the CUPS interface, the Job State says "processing since ...". The Printer Status is "Processing". The process list shows a process that hangs (keeping the fans working hard): F UID PID PPID PRI NIVSZ RSS WCHAN STAT TTYTIME COMMAND 4 7 8190 8014 20 0 5916 1140 - R? 0:58 \ parallel:/dev/lp0 2 steve test.ps 1 Duplex=None finishings=3 \ InputSlot=BypassTray number-up=1 PageSize=Letter \ job-uuid=urn:uuid:0f0b7d42-d03a-3465-5812-fea113f649b4 \ job-originating-host-name=localhost time-at-creation=106577 \ time-at-processing=106577 If I cancel the print job, the job is deleted from the list, but the printer Status is still "Processing" and process 8190 hangs around. The calling process (8014) is /usr/sbin/cupsd -C /etc/cups/cupsd.conf. Any ideas how to fix this? Thanks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/loom.20120401t211422-...@post.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On 04/01/2012 12:21 PM, Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: Nobody has been insulted :-? Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, so don't know whose it was. In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than reacting to an out of context quote. We have all, of course, done the latter. ;-) Lisi I thought this topic was thoroughly killed years ago. I am killing it herewith: I am filtering out all further mails of this nature. --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78a267.6070...@optonline.net
Help needed please with luks volume
Hi all Sorry for the cross-list posting; I think this will help. I have a luks formatted volume and on debian this volume just stopped working after a dist-upgrade The error reported is as below $ sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdc dsk LUKS keyslot 6 is invalid. LUKS keyslot 7 is invalid. $ cryptsetup --version cryptsetup 1.4.1 $ uname -a Linux bcv 3.2.9 #1 SMP Sat Mar 10 20:36:56 GMT 2012 x86_64 GNU/Linux Whereas when used in an older version (in my office) this disk works perfectly fine and I am able to view data. This home system of mine running debian with cryptsetup version as above has a problem and so I am not able to take the data out wheras cryptsetup version cryptsetup 1.0.6 (which runs kernel 2.6.39-rc6 ) works perfectly okay. I am stuck with not able to see my private data at home. Can someone help please ? Or is this a bug introduced in the newer versions ? thanks -- Bhasker C V -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78a7d6.2000...@unixindia.com
Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp
On 20120401_130449, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Sb, 31 mar 12, 11:08:39, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > > > Having a tmpfs filesystem for "/tmp" doesn't mean that a dedicated > > > partition is required for "/tmp". > > > > What you say doesn't work for me, but something else does. > > Show us (what doesn't work) :) My statement was made in response to a statement by another person whose name you have snipped out. It is just as well that you did this snipping, because, now I regret writing precisely that in response to that remark. What *does* work for me is a separate partition for /tmp, which is something that I never had to have before. Having to set up such as part of a dist-upgrade, or full-upgrade, or re-install breaks the 'it just works' paradigm. I think it was not really working in squeeze as well, but until quite recently, I was unaware of the meaning of some error messages and unable to design and execute diagnostic to tests, or to formulate questions that would evoke helpful explanations. (You do realize by now that I do have communication problems, I hope.) Peace. -- Paul E Condon pecon...@mesanetworks.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401185217.gi3...@big.lan.gnu
Re: upgrade to Wheezy fails with aptitude
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Lisi wrote: Tenses are often very difficult for non-native speakers of English to understand. It's funny. Do you really think that the the meaning of the past tense is different in other languages!? IMO, your interpretation of the past tense is wrong: The fact that a statement was written in the past never implied, in any language, that it is no more valid. Example: "Pasteur recommended to wash hands frequently" If the old statement is no more valid, that needs to be specified explicitly, preferably in the same sentence or the next one, as in the following (half-imaginary) example: : "Pasteur recommended to boil water before drinking it, but this is no more needed in most modern countries" So, to come back to Debian upgrade, in the following sentence The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of aptitude for the upgrade. the past tense is obviously used because this recommendation was written in the past, but it is nowhere writen that it is no more valid, except for upgrades from Debian 5.0 to Debian 6.0. For example, reading that, I would still use aptitude to upgrade from Debian 4.0 to Debian 5.0 If you want an other proof that I am right, look at section 4.2 Please follow the instructions in the Release Notes for Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 to upgrade to 5.0 first. Please note that "follow" is not at the past tense! On the contrary, reading: apt-get is the preferred program for package management from console to perform system installation and major system upgrades I would use apt-get to upgrade to 5.0 Please note the plural, and that there is not a single restriction for the concerned realeases So, I persist to say that the 2 sentences are contradictory. I'll propose a slight modification to remove this contradiction: 1/ in 4.4.6, replace The upgrade process for other releases recommended the use of aptitude for the upgrade. This tool is not recommended for upgrades from lenny to squeeze. by The recommended tool for system upgrade from Lenny to Squeeze is apt-get. For upgrades to previous releases, it is aptitude 2/ in the Debian faq, replace Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and is the preferred program for package management from console to perform system installation and major system upgrades for its robustness. by Note that apt-get now installs recommended packages as default and is, for its robustness, the preferred program for package management from console to perform system installation and major system upgrades to releases posterior to Lenny. -- Pierre Frenkiel -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/alpine.deb.2.00.1204011920140.20...@pfr2.frenkiel-hure.net
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 19:55, Brian wrote: > On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) >> top-posted? > > It has continued to its present length of nearly fifty posts after > you said: > >> Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" >> styles? Which is the most long thread on this list right now? :D > If Debian had an award for Most Inane Question of the Year yours > would most definitely be well in the running based on the Search > Engine Test. Applying a few of the other criteria the judges might > consider: > > Does it help the person who started the thread? I think that it did. > Does it add value to the topic in the subject header? I'm not sure, probably. > Does having it labelled [OT] make it more acceptable? I didn't label this. This was some other thread at first :). > Does the poster appear to be wearing a trolling costume? I don't think so. > you can anticipate being a winner. > > - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeI5PAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoDYsP/A9GQg3BCYpOajyOWoEKqOJV QZXHLUTmUYGmaTz2p63yBWU1oNV7uatkcKFVWzIdz9qkXizSyXNCDUANutlHJU3p pQd8xAkcP+BxuETSDLUBFFnZ5NfeeUPqG2ZJsB8ZDFSc1PPSdebTvg65m/3W8qs6 eKWMCOJVXPotnL9beKkOHcVfoTrxy0ztZrLkAEa4s3dYJfT4hYT66zarYHnahPWD FLt/wk6/wTDDKFz/eWICjRo5Dtm4xVEHXVsv1cg3uDuBw/XT0SxzUnj+b1jHWuAn SOpiA73oi7MlJKpiKF7THttyfs7gufF8ozz39/0OHAFPtqqHDIcdwEElktRGIwgl o1bQyngIVwaV9tWlzExvafTK0uf0j9RgM9u5v9l0jzPwhdlrB/P8UEtOrnywn/IG YY6q2pePYhEde/Whb9ohC4xL0Ec2qiyScCceveNicsZvWImiwTuejhF+duYh6i+4 aMmwoyhvUVEjCovAAeuw9GpFi0NM6Il5nqKPmcHZFJV12Ot9CMTAaHCCorxn1yW0 4Dun7QnxRnGhevLPsfRAncOAnWN2KXsQZJMsC/0lq2z6yx+VVj8WrXh6vZVAkaGo izpk1gL+WUQUwpXPmq410tA+3U/9qF2e23A0DOYEK1hm481Jf//m//vNdRIQZnYx BdY4+EWAyAfDpM5Pt/xk =59Q+ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f788e52.4070...@hotmail.com
Re: Icedove and Enigmail
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 19:30, Sian Mountbatten wrote: > On 01/04/12 15:00, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:07:48 +0300, Matthias Andersson wrote: >> >>> The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove >>> 3.1.16. Is there a version that will work or another extension >>> that will perform the same task (gpg encryption)? >> >> In what way "incompatible"? Are you getting an error? I would >> report it in Debian BTS. >> >> Mmmm, now I say... >> >> enigmail: Enigmime Service not available >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665712 >> >> enigmail: version 1.0.1-5 does not work with icedove 8.0 >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664427 > I am using Icedove 10.0.3 and enigmail 2:1.4-1. Maybe youse guys > should upgrade. -- Sian Mountbatten siduction user > > I am using Icedove 10.0.3-3 and Enigmail 2:1.4-1 too. % lsb_release -a No LSB modules are available. Distributor ID: Debian Description:Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) Release:unstable Codename: sid I think that it's safe to upgrade those two packages from Sid (but I am not fully sure and do it with your own responsibility...). http://packages.debian.org/sid/icedove http://packages.debian.org/sid/enigmail - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeI04AAoJEE21PP6CpGcoShQQAJI2CQ1KyydQY+gznZkqXJFe 5jdc7FG2ZRxy7nkhunUbLRetT9CaEC41aouHhYVSLiGXbeUSDvdciRYNxtm0iuR5 8uxiYIC//nDHttCvLTfBu6ySn6ZOnUGTkRqq8UGyF4aytj+mVLqdespT3DO+5sle jE3rBmtSUmcP0UpU8bdXlu34OU1XMzbd210MG5ujH8rDXETOm3wq517rQo1Kk8K7 6F5d3JFQo8J1pMF/9fP/qf/5JMbQfFm5T6hw5vTQg+TSUl05r+TyeflyqNbhdUhk BOwiyHGnUoM9o/qtyDB0w95yFjkYYGAXQhFBHrj2e37UR/B1BXQZhiU9JhNrmOtN Npv+xfQmzlBNCXWnIFBpJNu18oH4QDw8UoezDs39/YEwpQ/p8gKW7svefLeZ+XFQ Z52s1RtW/Nju3P3cdRQ9PcpzScdK7jmICgvQU5DyPBhio9hR8Zg4Rwtn+hKeNH00 T24L/U5YfDG2pAwtoTbU438pulg2sFDuiqBOK4cZ8zD3gA1f9aJdb1jfECMPaWTb 6fAX6bxhy+sDCxQXCOnVFmt0+CNuRptLU6Zc6G5R7Ih1Y8BSJKL3RhME9/JhpqFJ uxUDLSHqqcNMX1vqQYQDRuBbpUAhMzcL6X+3+ELz4K0Fd8Zs8bKVGP/kjBPHO/ma na4KD/P8IKmD52HVyuOe =Dnuu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f788d3e.1080...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? It has continued to its present length of nearly fifty posts after you said: > Could someone explain me, what are "top- and bottom posting" > styles? If Debian had an award for Most Inane Question of the Year yours would most definitely be well in the running based on the Search Engine Test. Applying a few of the other criteria the judges might consider: Does it help the person who started the thread? Does it add value to the topic in the subject header? Does having it labelled [OT] make it more acceptable? Does the poster appear to be wearing a trolling costume? you can anticipate being a winner. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401165522.GU16316@desktop
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:45:52 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 01.04.2012 19:42, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: >> >>> On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote: Fair enough -- mea culpa. Lisi wrote: > On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: >>> <...> >>> >>> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? >> >> To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was >> that ;-) >> >> >> > And after that I was taught to bottom post and so on... That's what happens when someone opens Pandora's Box, you never know how we'll gonna end. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jla1m9$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Icedove and Enigmail
On 01/04/12 15:00, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:07:48 +0300, Matthias Andersson wrote: > >> The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove 3.1.16. Is >> there a version that will work or another extension that will perform >> the same task (gpg encryption)? > > In what way "incompatible"? Are you getting an error? I would report it > in Debian BTS. > > Mmmm, now I say... > > enigmail: Enigmime Service not available > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665712 > > enigmail: version 1.0.1-5 does not work with icedove 8.0 > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664427 I am using Icedove 10.0.3 and enigmail 2:1.4-1. Maybe youse guys should upgrade. -- Sian Mountbatten siduction user -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f788295.2000...@fastmail.co.uk
Re: Icedove and Enigmail
El 2012-04-01 a las 17:30 +0100, Sian Mountbatten escribió: (resending to the list) > On 01/04/12 15:00, Camaleón wrote: > > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:07:48 +0300, Matthias Andersson wrote: > > > >> The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove 3.1.16. Is > >> there a version that will work or another extension that will perform > >> the same task (gpg encryption)? > > > > In what way "incompatible"? Are you getting an error? I would report it > > in Debian BTS. > > > > Mmmm, now I say... > > > > enigmail: Enigmime Service not available > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665712 > > > > enigmail: version 1.0.1-5 does not work with icedove 8.0 > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664427 > I am using Icedove 10.0.3 and enigmail 2:1.4-1. Maybe youse guys should > upgrade. > -- > Sian Mountbatten > siduction user Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401163426.ga5...@stt008.linux.site
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 19:42, Camaleón wrote: > On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote: >>> Fair enough -- mea culpa. >>> >>> Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: >> <...> >> >> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) >> top-posted? > > To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was > that ;-) > > Greetings, > And after that I was taught to bottom post and so on... - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeIY9AAoJEE21PP6CpGconG0QALI6flVSb0bFFqcjD7FsYtVn 7MFfOsLhPc5iXwg4DyHNb2rhMsSjWodbYefqrJwGlTlgAdWQU6PdS6kgVfGa34rf k03W5nVk5wKmHrAi1Gj0IwO95fOLZzEz2HIbuEdxg96sWeyWnq/sApsG/bTgEOOZ DatgOuIKo1TyJjdU1kXLu+nR5wptfl371e1WsCDnuxmAlMzmRNmOs9xse892lEym bNSZC804NwiymWvBm8uVk9owL9MNnHELJplGwjXf4Y0taJ5fXU98ruFnxEa8GL1V QNuDwd+Z52sYZy6e84iH2o0mbJKZMnZTRK7QRepATtyHpSHDUegNGM1rVOJyhPkf a2bya5DW+1bbUuw2lAHRUSAfGQIwAEumkrP+AsGJ79SIajn/PWvqNqsuy/yMHc0i CGa6XzQUZmmrbajuc1SlBld9TeeTHcxsGYx614PNfC+ASMIvpqKMHtLZnYjzM6Ct qdM0AUcBYMn4BDbBj9hxC9gUBqxJMIq9jjeyXyyjuE4n5OYD/x0hoR9279cgchcC xUsVPOrycpVRTkB3YIxwSmoZY4NR1pMibeCcjuWVdm++cGzVZCRrN5G4znf9Wpgh qhXh7XaI9CD9+VF8Lr6fWK3gZT6jGE6ZlvR6vb74+esYjcRq4atNllDdhhNqisiQ OwvVZcCBMOyp8RVmZ5rQ =OpM7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f788640.3020...@hotmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 19:32:47 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote: >> Fair enough -- mea culpa. >> >> Lisi wrote: >>> On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: > <...> > > Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? To be more precise, it started because someone (you) asked what was that ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jla0gq$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN
On Sun 01 Apr 2012 at 14:04:05 +, Camaleón wrote: > *** > http://www.openprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.php?driver=pxlcolor&printer=Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer&show=1 > > *OpenUI *Duplex/Double-Sided Printing: PickOne > (...) > *** Without leaving the comfort of your fireside and with foomatic-db-engine installed: /usr/lib/cups/driver/foomatic --help /usr/lib/cups/driver/foomatic list | grep '6/PCL XL' /usr/lib/cups/driver/foomatic cat "foomatic:Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer-pxlcolor.ppd" | less -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401162050.GT16316@desktop
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 19:32, PMA wrote: > Fair enough -- mea culpa. > > Lisi wrote: >> On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: <...> Didn't this whole thread start, because some people (I) top-posted? - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeIMsAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoDJsP/3sUTmhuoHuzTRlx1USvGdUL 2OoAY0FBc7rlQ7CglowPq+rXmYVQJet5O3hMGJfvCbH88Sr8knS+wIwjJjTDC/so PoGSY8opcWr4Dn4uc9HNoOp8DEmPgx+kyXtPVvU6rrIPjjyYIbWo6vzzU4nVmRjf ni1xLdfUH++bKy6Ly0pxOI3USU1DvFXfulAJ+o/U0uppgXT16vnPB6em5CuBGrAH 7oV5szNKpp4NWOTgpVYxFqXaDFrtBQC3U8CJ/lxG1Ze+1CaLFPb+3Pc4X99wDfVJ o0eQ7ju+D6mmLkoAO1Y73ryl7FUL9wG5W34mTfAkC3d5mRBCJggCQk7+GyGTNnBN w0Ml2LgeqXK+iYJR3S5t/jClF2lNvh3t5UBgwQjMbqEvJVcAXX0CI1eLfw/9jQCN FERfflUI6J2avmIvCVcKTBcyW1j1lVLke5P/rcfiwP7gX/JGWwFowGwHVRwNJXUB GzD+HHXqtK1SJE2KMbDKtLxsmWIARPo0hTTa6JFdVbI62Gb1eZnVt3ZQlWykhN0q cRxRAWx1e3Ib/zz18003ULH7yuXNPTp7C3Ls2CWa87+74RGzo8VbFTuFLRPXusVe 5kiHU+jL+nXJlRtsfKqiQNOsaAQXAkkGDr/e7FObJPNynipgHgXxsBQvhLK1B7uS 7EZG2LpsEdkIZolcKslq =Z+F5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78832f.2070...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
Fair enough -- mea culpa. Lisi wrote: On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: Nobody has been insulted :-? Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, so don't know whose it was. In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than reacting to an out of context quote. We have all, of course, done the latter. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78830f.9090...@aya.yale.edu
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On Sunday 01 April 2012 16:41:50 PMA wrote: > > Nobody has been insulted :-? > > Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, > so don't know whose it was. In this case (as often!) you needed to have read the thread rather than reacting to an out of context quote. We have all, of course, done the latter. ;-) Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204011721.38427.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Make fully encrypted disk without LVM during install
If you only encrypt the disk, the default (at least on the squeeze netinstall disk) is to create a large ext3 partition. Then you don't have an lvm partition... --b On Sun, Apr 1, 2012 at 3:27 AM, J.A. de Vries wrote: > Hi all, > > I plan on installing testing on a brand new disk later this week. Last time I > did this I just followed the options the installer offered and ended up with a > perfectly fine system on a fully encrypted disk using LVM. > > This time I need my disk to be easily portable, so I prefer to have a fully > encrypted disk without LVM. Not that LVM is a problem in itself, but I could > do without the hassle it brings with it when you want to mount that disk on > another system where that system will not boot from it. I know it can be done > even with LVM, but in this case it is more of a bother than a help because I > am quite sure I won't need to resize the partitions. > > Is there some combination of options in the installer that supports this > choice? If there is I am propbably very dense today, because I can't seem to > find it. I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me some pointers in > the > right direction. > > Grx HdV > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204010927.12260.hdv.ja...@gmail.com > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAKmZw+aGB_pYriJEaapMdQpJ=y69J=s9zwnzmhp9b7ycg5h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
Camaleón wrote: On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:19:21 -0400, PMA wrote: Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: (...) I'm not sure who writes these rules, and what their exact authority is, but the page itself acknowledges that it does not constitute "official information", and as others have noted, the official code of conduct does not specify posting style. Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who participate in the mailing lists. Should someone wants (again) to open the debate about the proper way of posting in a mailing list, I'd suggest doing a poll to see what the majority of the participants have to say about the matter. I will be more than happy to stick to what the most of the people wants. Yes, and I'd suggest sending any future new subscriber a direct link to the rules/tips agreed to -- or even the actual document -- rather than insulting his intelligence later for not "finding for himself". Nobody has been insulted :-? Granted, no-one has screamed. I saw, BTW, only an unattributed quote, so don't know whose it was. I don't know what kind of information a user receives when is subscribed to the lists because I'm not "subscribed", I just follow them, read and post (this is an open list, no need for subscription). Anyway, it's normal for mailing list newcomers to be unaware of these conventions, that's why I usually "politely" note that html formatted messages need to be avoided and also top-posting when I see a bad formatted post. Worth to remember that common sense is the best of the rules. Greetings, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78773e.20...@aya.yale.edu
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
El 2012-04-01 a las 09:44 -0400, Miles Fidelman escribió: (sending back to the list) > Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 >>> Tony van der Hoff wrote: >>> >>> ... >>> Before you started posting here, the polite thing to do would have been to read the list guidelines, and apply them. Seeing as you appear too intellectually challenged to find them for yourself, here is the link: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips Under the heading "Posting Rules, Guidelines, and Tips" you'll see the entry: "Respond in Interleaved style. Unnecessary quotes should be trimmed and a question should precede an answer." Isn't that adequately clear? It isn't a question of individual preferences, or your religious leanings, it's a list rule, to be obeyed by all correspondents, which exists for the elucication of all. To quote: "Why all these rules? Busy people spend valuable time monitoring lists and responding to questions. The recommended practices make these activities more efficient and pleasant." >>> I'm not sure who writes these rules, and what their exact authority is, >>> but the page itself acknowledges that it does not constitute "official >>> information", and as others have noted, the official code of conduct >>> does not specify posting style. >> Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are >> written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who >> participate in the mailing lists. > > The question does raise two interesting points: > > - what IS the "official" process for setting rules (presumably, since > the Debian project hosts these lists, and the servers they run on, > somebody, through some process, has the authority to set rules for the > lists, and post those rules to lists.debian.org) - but what are the > details? anybody know? I don't know, but the way this workes in other projects I've participated these conventions are made and developed by their user members, which includes all of us. > - it turns out that there are TWO places that list rules of conduct for > all Debian lists: > > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/ - which is silent on posting style > > http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists - which recommends interleaved > posting, > BUT points to the above as the "official rules of conduct" > > Somewhat confusing. > > Miles Fidelman IMO, they both complement each other. The only difference between "www.debian.org" and "wiki.debian.org" is that normal users can edit the latter but only users with commit rights can alter the former. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401151417.ga4...@stt008.linux.site
Re: group permissions (was chroot ssh and ftp)
> To: debian-user lists.debian.org
> Subject: Re: group permissions (was chroot ssh and ftp)
> From: Chris Davies
>
> Chris wrote:
> The problem with this is that you're making files executable. Personally
> I think you'd be better off just fixing just the professors' home
> directories.
Do you mean in the script (professor branch) something like:
chown $USU:professor $USU
chmod go= $USU
This way one professor cannot see each others dirs, but inside home a
file would be created (and stayed) like: rw-rw
Right? Don't need the -R.
> > chmod g+s sam simon sony
> Again, here you're making files executable, and you'd be better off just
> tweaking the group and other permissions:
> find sam simon sony -type d -exec chmod g=rwx,o= {} \;
> find sam simon sony ! -type d -exec chmod g=u,g+r,o= {} \;
Nice touch. I changed the script to:
if groups $USU | grep -q alumini; then
#echo Cleaning $USU, student.
chown -R $USU:student $USU
find $USU -type d -exec chmod u=rwx,g=rwx,o= {} \;
find $USU ! -type d -exec chmod u+r,g=u,g+w,o= {} \;
else
#echo Cleaning $USU, professor.
chown $USU:professor $USU ;#not recursive
chmod u=rwx,go= $USU ;#not recursive
> the student user may want to have removed write permission from their own
> access, so I would be inclined to honour that with something like this:
> chown -R g=u,g+rw,o=
Yes, thanks. I just add that students can wrongly do a u-r, so I added
a u+r. Will this sequence work?
u+r,g=u,g+w,o=
I thought to add r to users, then copy r and possible x to groups,
then add w to groups. I belive its ok, isn't it?
> As I've suggested earlier, you probably don't need to tweak any of
> the professors' files, but just enforce 0700 on each professor's home
> directory.
> Chris
Yep! Great.
Thanks,
Beco
--
Dr. Beco
A.I. research, Cognitive Scientist and Philosopher
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Re: OT: change of mail provider
On Sunday 01 April 2012 15:33:17 richard wrote: > but the copy sent back from the list is blocked That is a "feature"!! I dislike it, so I send through my ISP and use Gmail with POP3 for receiving my email. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204011620.20344.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:48:27 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:49 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> Show us, please. >> >> I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website >> for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something >> worth seeing :-) > > I HAVE shown you. Where exactly? I though your first post was about NTFS volume. > You HAVE seen it. You know more than me, then... > If you refuse to believe it, that's on you. I'm not a "believer", that's true, I rely on logs so I may have missed something, can you please point me to them? :-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9rk3$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 14:21:49 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > Show us, please. > > I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera > website for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be > something worth seeing :-) I HAVE shown you. You HAVE seen it. If you refuse to believe it, that's on you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401094827.3d96186d@sirius
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 10:19:21 -0400, PMA wrote: > Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: (...) >>> I'm not sure who writes these rules, and what their exact authority >>> is, but the page itself acknowledges that it does not constitute >>> "official information", and as others have noted, the official code of >>> conduct does not specify posting style. >> >> Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are >> written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who >> participate in the mailing lists. >> >> Should someone wants (again) to open the debate about the proper way of >> posting in a mailing list, I'd suggest doing a poll to see what the >> majority of the participants have to say about the matter. I will be >> more than happy to stick to what the most of the people wants. >> > > Yes, and I'd suggest sending any future new subscriber a direct link to > the rules/tips agreed to -- or even the actual document -- rather than > insulting his intelligence later for not "finding for himself". Nobody has been insulted :-? I don't know what kind of information a user receives when is subscribed to the lists because I'm not "subscribed", I just follow them, read and post (this is an open list, no need for subscription). Anyway, it's normal for mailing list newcomers to be unaware of these conventions, that's why I usually "politely" note that html formatted messages need to be avoided and also top-posting when I see a bad formatted post. Worth to remember that common sense is the best of the rules. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9phu$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 16:33:34 +0300 Rares Aioanei wrote: > On 04/01/2012 01:04 AM, richard wrote: > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:02:42 +0100 > > richard wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> now can I see my postings. > >> lease ignore > >> > > Most definitely YES, bye bye gmail for all my mailing lists :) > > > Richard, that is the third Debian mailing list you are posting test > messages. In the name of sanity, please stop. One test is too much > already. > No It s not, please list instances , time date and contents -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401153429.028a8...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 09:12:59 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> Bug? >> >> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504 > > Thank you for that pointer. Apparently this has been an issue for a > while, and for GNOME desktops as well (which indicates to me that the > problem is somewhere in the automount process -- I can mount these > devices from a root shell). Yes. > I looked through the debian-users archive and couldn't see anyone else > using KDE complaining, but I can hardly believe I'm the only one having > this problem. AFAIK, GNOME and KDE both use FUSE for mounting these kind of volumes so they must share the same problematic. A simple search in Google confirms that point: http://goo.gl/D5iEt Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9p0q$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:20:07 + Camaleón wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:04:44 +0100, richard wrote: > > > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:02:42 +0100 > > richard wrote: > > > >> Hi, > >> now can I see my postings. > >> lease ignore > >> > >> > > Most definitely YES, bye bye gmail for all my mailing lists :) > > May I ask about the reasons for ditching Gmail from your life? > > I'm more than tempted to do it so but I have still not found a good > replacement for my Gmail e-mail address. > > Greetings, > You most certainly can, :) I have had mail bouncing, and going missing. The initial posting to all of the mailing lists on Yahoo, and Debian arrives ,but the copy sent back from the list is blocked. Its slow here as well. The web interface is horrible. I did a good search and found SimplyMailSolutions and they can host your domain and/or change the MX record so mail gets routed through them. I had problems getting the delivery due to configuration problem with my domain host, and their support is very good, and its not a call centre in India, where you can't understand them, and their knowledge is only whats on the screen in front of them,( add that to the list of not using gmail ) Anyway, their support was great and got the config problem sorted, non of this , "sorry we dont support linux users" , gmail favourite get out. I've left the mail folders on gmail, but now upload to their imap server from simply mail solutions MS exchange server. Bypassing all their filtering. A case of what's worse, Google or MS I guess that will cause the list police to raise a few hundred complaints :) -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401153317.6ca26...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 08:17:52 -0500, ntrfug wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) > > Yes, it can. > > It is. > > Exactly the same. Show us, please. I really doubt you get a message pointing to NTFS-G3 or Tuxera website for a volume formatted with ext2 or reiserfs. That would be something worth seeing :-) > How do you "know" otherwise? I already said... "dmesg" will tell. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9o9t$r1h$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:35:49 +0100, Keith McKenzie wrote: > On 01/04/12 14:20, Camaleón wrote: >> May I ask about the reasons for ditching Gmail from your life? >> >> I'm more than tempted to do it so but I have still not found a good >> replacement for my Gmail e-mail address. > I use Hotmail (for receiving junk), Yahoo, & Gmail. I have Icedove fetch > my mail, & reply from it. If it is only the annoyance of the Gmail > interface you dislike, give Icedove a try. I don't use Gmail's webmail but Mutt and Pan (newsreader). What I want to avoid is Google getting too deep into my life. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9oeq$r1h$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: How to boot PC-BSD from Debian (was: Query about hard drive partitions maintenance)
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 22:27:07 -0700, Weaver wrote: >> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 10:51:05 +0800, Bret Busby wrote: >> >>> On Wed, 28 Mar 2012, Camaleón wrote: >> >> (...) >> > so I believe that, in the circumstances, I have to abandon the > prospect of installing PC-BSD 9 on this computer. > > I had some trouble with this myself and tried all sorts of things. Grub2 > wouldn't find it. You may have missed something because GRUB2 is more than capable of booting it. > I tried GAG: > > http://gag.sourceforge.net/ > > ...which is very good and detects everything, but would only boot > PC-BSD. Maybe because some sort of incompatibility between GAG and GRUB2. > The only thing I haven't tried is something somebody suggested had > worked for them on another forum, and that was to downgrade to > Grub-Legacy. Apparently that works. > This I haven't tried, so I give no guarantee. Regards, That can be seen as a workaround but remember that GRUB Legacy is not being developed anymore. Using GRUB2 (or another supported bootloader) should be the way to go. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9o27$r1h$7...@dough.gmane.org
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
Camaleón wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 Tony van der Hoff wrote: ... Before you started posting here, the polite thing to do would have been to read the list guidelines, and apply them. Seeing as you appear too intellectually challenged to find them for yourself, here is the link: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips Under the heading "Posting Rules, Guidelines, and Tips" you'll see the entry: "Respond in Interleaved style. Unnecessary quotes should be trimmed and a question should precede an answer." Isn't that adequately clear? It isn't a question of individual preferences, or your religious leanings, it's a list rule, to be obeyed by all correspondents, which exists for the elucication of all. To quote: "Why all these rules? Busy people spend valuable time monitoring lists and responding to questions. The recommended practices make these activities more efficient and pleasant." I'm not sure who writes these rules, and what their exact authority is, but the page itself acknowledges that it does not constitute "official information", and as others have noted, the official code of conduct does not specify posting style. Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who participate in the mailing lists. Should someone wants (again) to open the debate about the proper way of posting in a mailing list, I'd suggest doing a poll to see what the majority of the participants have to say about the matter. I will be more than happy to stick to what the most of the people wants. Greetings, Yes, and I'd suggest sending any future new subscriber a direct link to the rules/tips agreed to -- or even the actual document -- rather than insulting his intelligence later for not "finding for himself". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f7863e9.6010...@aya.yale.edu
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > Bug? > > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=631504 Thank you for that pointer. Apparently this has been an issue for a while, and for GNOME desktops as well (which indicates to me that the problem is somewhere in the automount process -- I can mount these devices from a root shell). I looked through the debian-users archive and couldn't see anyone else using KDE complaining, but I can hardly believe I'm the only one having this problem. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401091259.2f24d9f2@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 14:31:02 +0100 Keith McKenzie wrote: > It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to > mount it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being > auto mounted, as that seems to be what you want. I already know I can mount it as root. I would like to be able to automatically mount external devices read/write as a normal user, as I have been able to do for years. There should be no need to rebuild Debian packages to do that. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401090450.13348da8@sirius
Re: printer Kyocera FSC-5100DN
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 20:28:09 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: > 2012/3/31 Camaleón : >> On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 20:00:23 +0200, Leonard Le-Rey wrote: >> >>> 2012/3/30 Brian : >> >> (...) >> The PDF file is unlikely to be the problem. >>> It is obviously not a driver problem, as the driver from Kyocera is >>> the most recent and works fine on other systems (such as Ubuntu >>> 11.10). >> >> (...) >> >> You can't know unless you try with a different driver (either generic >> PS or PCL6) ;-) >> >> You can also try to print a different PDF file with the usual PPD to >> discard a problem in the pdfLaTex generated file. With a bit of luck >> you'll be able to find a failure pattern. >> > Hey guys, thanks for your answers! > So the current state is the following: > > 1.) With the Generic-PCL-6-PCL-XL, everything works fine and the PDF is > printed without any problems. This is fine for me for the moment, of > course, duplex and some other options are not available. Hey, good :-) As Brian says, that PPD file should include duplex printing options, if we carefully look inside we can see the available options: *** http://www.openprinting.org/ppd-o-matic.php?driver=pxlcolor&printer=Generic-PCL_6_PCL_XL_Printer&show=1 *OpenUI *Duplex/Double-Sided Printing: PickOne (...) *** > 2.) With the PPD driver offered by Kyocera on their website or with the > driver offered by Debian/Testing, the printing of PDF documents might > fail (especially longer ones). On the other hand, it is no problem to > print a long Libre Office Writer document, with lots of pictures. When you encounter a problematic PDF file that rejects from printing, try to convert it into PS and print instead the postscript file (you can use GNOME or KDE embedded virtual printer to get a PS file or use "gs" to make the conversion). > So as you suggested, it is probably a cups problem. I have seen that > someone installed the cups of Ubuntu 11.10 for a similiar problem with > another printer...? I would avoid that path. Any problem with Cups package should be reported to Debian BTS so it can be corrected and all of Debian users benefit of it. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9n8l$r1h$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Icedove and Enigmail
On Sun, 01 Apr 2012 13:07:48 +0300, Matthias Andersson wrote: > The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove 3.1.16. Is > there a version that will work or another extension that will perform > the same task (gpg encryption)? In what way "incompatible"? Are you getting an error? I would report it in Debian BTS. Mmmm, now I say... enigmail: Enigmime Service not available http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=665712 enigmail: version 1.0.1-5 does not work with icedove 8.0 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=664427 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9mmp$r1h$5...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On 01/04/12 14:20, Camaleón wrote: May I ask about the reasons for ditching Gmail from your life? I'm more than tempted to do it so but I have still not found a good replacement for my Gmail e-mail address. I use Hotmail (for receiving junk), Yahoo, & Gmail. I have Icedove fetch my mail, & reply from it. If it is only the annoyance of the Gmail interface you dislike, give Icedove a try. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f7859b5.5020...@gmail.com
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On 04/01/2012 01:04 AM, richard wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:02:42 +0100 richard wrote: Hi, now can I see my postings. lease ignore Most definitely YES, bye bye gmail for all my mailing lists :) Richard, that is the third Debian mailing list you are posting test messages. In the name of sanity, please stop. One test is too much already. -- Rares Aioanei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78592e.7000...@gmail.com
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On 01/04/12 14:15, ntrfug wrote: Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk It's there. So if you use a root terminal, you should be able to mount it. After that, you will need to find out why it isn't being auto mounted, as that seems to be what you want. (If you have never mounted via root; mount -t ntfs /dev/sdb1 /mnt) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f785896.5020...@gmail.com
Re: How to boot PC-BSD from Debian
On 04/01/2012 08:27 AM, Weaver wrote: [snip] I had some trouble with this myself and tried all sorts of things. Grub2 wouldn't find it. I tried GAG: http://gag.sourceforge.net/ ...which is very good and detects everything, but would only boot PC-BSD. The only thing I haven't tried is something somebody suggested had worked for them on another forum, and that was to downgrade to Grub-Legacy. Apparently that works. This I haven't tried, so I give no guarantee. Regards, Weaver I booted FreeBSD from Debian's GRUB2 with no problem, also NetBSD. If you still need the link, let me know. -- Rares Aioanei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78587b.8070...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Posting styles -- Top vs Bottom
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 21:08:19 -0400, Celejar wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:55:31 +0200 > Tony van der Hoff wrote: > > ... > >> Before you started posting here, the polite thing to do would have been >> to read the list guidelines, and apply them. Seeing as you appear too >> intellectually challenged to find them for yourself, here is the link: >> >> http://wiki.debian.org/DebianMailingLists#Posting_Rules.2C_Guidelines.2C_and_Tips >> >> Under the heading "Posting Rules, Guidelines, and Tips" you'll see the >> entry: >> "Respond in Interleaved style. Unnecessary quotes should be trimmed and >> a question should precede an answer." >> >> Isn't that adequately clear? It isn't a question of individual >> preferences, or your religious leanings, it's a list rule, to be obeyed >> by all correspondents, which exists for the elucication of all. >> >> To quote: >> "Why all these rules? Busy people spend valuable time monitoring lists >> and responding to questions. The recommended practices make these >> activities more efficient and pleasant." > > I'm not sure who writes these rules, and what their exact authority is, > but the page itself acknowledges that it does not constitute "official > information", and as others have noted, the official code of conduct > does not specify posting style. Those "rules" (I prefer to see them as "tips for good guidance") are written by all of us, people like you or me, that is, people who participate in the mailing lists. Should someone wants (again) to open the debate about the proper way of posting in a mailing list, I'd suggest doing a poll to see what the majority of the participants have to say about the matter. I will be more than happy to stick to what the most of the people wants. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9l83$r1h$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: OT: change of mail provider
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:04:44 +0100, richard wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 23:02:42 +0100 > richard wrote: > >> Hi, >> now can I see my postings. >> lease ignore >> >> > Most definitely YES, bye bye gmail for all my mailing lists :) May I ask about the reasons for ditching Gmail from your life? I'm more than tempted to do it so but I have still not found a good replacement for my Gmail e-mail address. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9km7$r1h$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:10:48 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: > It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) Yes, it can. It is. Exactly the same. How do you "know" otherwise? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401081752.277d81dd@sirius
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:15:22 +0300
Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> Just for confirmation, you get a message telling you to rebuild
> ntfs-3g when the filesystem is ext2? Can you show us the relevant
> part of /var/log/syslog when you plug the thumb drive? ('tail -f'
> helps here).
That is correct -- regardless of the filesystem -- NTFS, ext2, or
reiserfs -- I get the same message I originally posted. I was able to
use all these devices in Kubuntu 8.04 (Hardy Heron), which I used before
updating to Wheezy; I can still get to the NTFS thumb drive via my
Windows virtual machine.
From /var/log/syslog:
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.340138] usb 1-3: new high speed
USB device number 12 using ehci_hcd
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484520] usb 1-3: New USB device
found, idVendor=12f7, idProduct=1e23
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484529] usb 1-3: New USB device
strings: Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=3
Apr 1 07:48:31 mystem kernel: [281274.484536] usb 1-3: Product:
TRAVELDRIVE 005B
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484541] usb 1-3: Manufacturer:
Memorex
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.484546] usb 1-3: SerialNumber:
07840A3A0571
Apr 1 07:48:31 mysystem kernel: [281274.485332] scsi11 : usb-storage
1-3:1.0
Apr 1 07:48:32 mysystem mtp-probe: checking bus 1, device 12:
"/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.7/usb1/1-3"
Apr 1 07:48:32 mysystem mtp-probe: bus: 1, device: 12 was not an MTP
device
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.531867] scsi 11:0:0:0:
Direct-Access Memorex TRAVELDRIVE 005B PMAP PQ: 0 ANSI: 0 CCS
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815210] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
16117760 512-byte logical blocks: (8.25 GB/7.68 GiB)
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815798] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Write Protect is off
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.815806] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] Mode
Sense: 23 00 00 00
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.816308] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.816317] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.820328] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.820336] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.880139] sdb: sdb1
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882426] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb] No
Caching mode page present
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882435] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Assuming drive cache: write through
Apr 1 07:48:33 mysystem kernel: [281275.882442] sd 11:0:0:0: [sdb]
Attached SCSI removable disk
I've used Linux for 12 years now; I recently returned to the Debian
fold after seven years of using Kubuntu (the seven-year itch?).
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[OT] Re: I've changed mail host, delivery test
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 19:01:27 +0100, richard wrote: > sorry guys No regrets, just face your punishment as a man! (three virtual lashes for the offence ;-P) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9kb8$r1h$2...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 12:42:28 -0500, Kevin McKinley wrote: > On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > >> Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with ext2 >> or reiserfs format? > > The error message is the same when trying to mount a reiserfs device. My > recollection is that it's the same for ext2 as well, and I can confirm > that later today. It can't be the "same" message, that's for sure ;-) When you have the time, send the last lines of dmesg after attaching an external device formatted with etx2 or reiserfs. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jl9k4o$r1h$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: group permissions (was chroot ssh and ftp)
Dr Beco wrote:
> Now, for the permissions stated before, I got this until now:
> Professors belong to two groups, professors and students
> Students belong only to alumini
> Admins belong to all
> Then I run in professors /home/dirs the following command:
> chown -R :professors paul peter patrick
> chmod -R 700 paul peter patrick
The problem with this is that you're making files executable. Personally
I think you'd be better off just fixing just the professors' home
directories. Failing that, just tweak the group and other permissions:
chmod -R go= paul peter patrick
> To students /home/dirs I did:
> chown -R :students sam simon sony
> chmod -R 770 sam simon sony
> chmod g+s sam simon sony
Again, here you're making files executable, and you'd be better off just
tweaking the group and other permissions:
find sam simon sony -type d -exec chmod g=rwx,o= {} \;
find sam simon sony ! -type d -exec chmod g=u,g+r,o= {} \;
In your script:
>if groups $USU | grep -q alumini; then
>#echo Cleaning $USU, student.
>chown -R $USU:student $USU
>chmod -R u+rw,g+rw,o-rwx $USU
>#echo Cleaning $USU, professor.
>chown -R $USU:professor $USU
>chmod -R u+rw,g-rwx,o-rwx $USU
>chmod -R u+rw,g+rw,o-rwx $USU
the student user may want to have removed write permission from their own
access, so I would be inclined to honour that with something like this:
chown -R g=u,g+rw,o=
As I've suggested earlier, you probably don't need to tweak any of
the professors' files, but just enforce 0700 on each professor's home
directory.
Chris
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Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Du, 01 apr 12, 12:18:55, richard wrote: > > NO that will not work, it is only the first posting that gets blocked. Subscribe to http://lists.debian.org/whitelist Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: 2nd try: reboot hangs
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:31:31 -0400, Miles wrote in message <4f75a7a3.4030...@meetinghouse.net>: > - or something else? ..you've tried a kexec reboot? -- ..med vennlig hilsen = with Kind Regards from Arnt Karlsen ...with a number of polar bear hunters in his ancestry... Scenarios always come in sets of three: best case, worst case, and just in case. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120330234835.389c8...@nb6.lan
Re: OT:change of mail provider
richard wrote: > how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first > posting without send a post ? Post something of value, like the real question you want to ask. There are thousands of us out here and we all get to see your test posting. (I'll not respond on-list further.) Chris -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5epl49x0o5@news.roaima.co.uk
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 13:32:51 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Du, 01 apr 12, 12:46:09, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > > > > > > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please > > > explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my > > > first posting without send a post ? > > Easy, you look up a thread you can contribute and post to it :) > > > I don't know. You could ask return receipts, like I do. > > Hmm, we probably need a "return receipts" day, where everybody sends > return receipts to everybody who asks them :) > This way people might understand what a useless waste of time, > bandwidth and storage space they are. > > Just one example: Outlook has this dialog box where you have to click > "Ok" to send a read receipt, but even if you move it aside, you can't > scroll down to actually read the entire mail[1]. And if the mail > looks like you need to take the time to read it carefully there is no > way to postpone it, you have to click "No" to get rid of it and later > you will have to reply to it anyway > > IMNSHO, if the message is important enough that you want/need a > confirmation "on file" you should specifically ask for > acknowledgement, preferably at the end of the e-mail, otherwise you > have no way to tell they actually read to the bottom. > > [1] What most people do is just click it away (or even worse, check > the "Always send read receipts" box), which doesn't actually tell if > the receiver really took the time to read that e-mail beyond the > first few lines. > > Kind regards, > Andrei NO that will not work, it is only the first posting that gets blocked. -- -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401121855.319d3...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Du, 01 apr 12, 12:46:09, Mika Suomalainen wrote: > > > > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please > > explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my > > first posting without send a post ? Easy, you look up a thread you can contribute and post to it :) > I don't know. You could ask return receipts, like I do. Hmm, we probably need a "return receipts" day, where everybody sends return receipts to everybody who asks them :) This way people might understand what a useless waste of time, bandwidth and storage space they are. Just one example: Outlook has this dialog box where you have to click "Ok" to send a read receipt, but even if you move it aside, you can't scroll down to actually read the entire mail[1]. And if the mail looks like you need to take the time to read it carefully there is no way to postpone it, you have to click "No" to get rid of it and later you will have to reply to it anyway IMNSHO, if the message is important enough that you want/need a confirmation "on file" you should specifically ask for acknowledgement, preferably at the end of the e-mail, otherwise you have no way to tell they actually read to the bottom. [1] What most people do is just click it away (or even worse, check the "Always send read receipts" box), which doesn't actually tell if the receiver really took the time to read that e-mail beyond the first few lines. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Icedove and Enigmail
On 01/04/12 20:07, Matthias Andersson wrote: > Hi! > > The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove 3.1.16. Is > there a version that will work or another extension that will perform > the same task (gpg encryption)? > > //Matthias > > I don't know of another pgp drop-in for Icedove. 1. Download Enigmail-1.1.2 (1.4MB)[*1] wget -t https://static.addons.mozilla.net/_files/_attachments/71/enigmail-1.1.2-tb-linux.xpi 2. Open Icedove 3. Toolbar => Addons 4. From the Gear icon drop-down list, select "Install Add-on from file..." Install enigmail-1.1.2-tb-linux.xpi For future reference (quicker than posting to the list):- Icedove => Tools => Addons => Enigmail => More... => Homepage => Download [*1]:- http://enigmail.mozdev.org/download/index.php.html Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f782d57.8070...@gmail.com
Re: Installing genesys on Debian - SOLVED - Thank you!
On Sunday 01 April 2012 09:51:29 Dom wrote: > On 31/03/12 22:57, Lisi wrote: > > On Saturday 31 March 2012 18:34:23 Dom wrote: > >> On 31/03/12 17:36, ntrfug wrote: > >>> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:29:39 +0100 > >>> > >>> Lisi wrote: > I am trying to install genesys, first in my Lenny box and then in > Squeeze. The SANE website says that my scanner is fully supported. > >> > >> Running Wheezy here. The standard Debian sane packages seem to have > >> support for the Canon LiDE 110. > > > > **What are you referring to as "the standard Debian Sane packages"?** > > They might be in Squeeze backports. I'm due some luck! > > Specifically libsane and libsane-common. Wheezy is currently on version > 1.0.22-7 of these packages. From the changelog, I am certain that > support for the LiDE was added in one of the early 1.0.22 releases, and > a few fixes applied soon after that. Xsane now scans OK on the Squeeze box. Thank you again, Dom. This was the final brick I needed. As a result of the info given to me by this email, I have given up on the Lenny box, and accepted that I just have to do all my scanning on my husband's computer until I get time to rebuild my desktop (which is urgently needed!). I will then install Squeeze or Wheezy on it. Many thanks to the rest of you (and, of course, Gooogle) for all the other bricks I needed. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204011122.06462.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: Unable to mount external USB devices -- Wheezy KDE
On Sb, 31 mar 12, 12:47:07, Kevin McKinley wrote:
> On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 17:22:59 + (UTC)
> Camaleón wrote:
>
> > Can you post the error message you get when mounting a device with
> > ext2 or reiserfs format?
>
> My external hard drives are elsewhere, but one of my thumb drives is
> formatted ext2. I get the same message trying to mount it.
Just for confirmation, you get a message telling you to rebuild ntfs-3g
when the filesystem is ext2? Can you show us the relevant part of
/var/log/syslog when you plug the thumb drive? ('tail -f' helps here).
Kind regards,
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Hi! The latest version of enigmail isn't compatible with icedove 3.1.16. Is there a version that will work or another extension that will perform the same task (gpg encryption)? //Matthias -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f7828f4.6010...@pp1.inet.fi
Re: how to increase space for tmpfs /tmp
On Sb, 31 mar 12, 11:08:39, Paul E Condon wrote: > > > > Having a tmpfs filesystem for "/tmp" doesn't mean that a dedicated > > partition is required for "/tmp". > > What you say doesn't work for me, but something else does. Show us (what doesn't work) :) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: OT:change of mail provider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 12:30, richard wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:13:46 +0300 Mika Suomalainen > wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 >> >> On 01.04.2012 01:00, richard wrote: >>> Hi, Now can I see my postings ??? >>> >>> Please ignore >>> >> >> Yes we can. But I think that somewhere read that you shouldn't >> send testing of email addresses to this list. >> >> - -- Mika Suomalainen > > > Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please > explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my > first posting without send a post ? I don't know. You could ask return receipts, like I do. By the way, the somewhere which I said in previous email is at http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#codeofconduct . > If you check in the archives you will find I raised the problem a > while ago , wanting to know if it was the way debian lists are > managed , and from that found my ISP was using gmail and blocking > mail addressed back to the sender as a list posting does. Ok. > You have increased the bandwidth used with your huge sig block as > well as the answer for me. If I didn't sign emails which I send, there is no easy way to verify that I have sent them. Email spoofing can be done with some clicks. > OR WERE YOU JUST TROLLING ? I am sorry, if you think that I am trolling. I don't mean to troll anyone. - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeCPbAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoubUQAK3R9t+1fjGRk0fBBXpNg8En OgOKLIHuZJh7KmTNWp60ybTPVvul0ALw/tPmpoii62ouHZfvl8OAZItBgJfgXhbz lKD7/Q9tSumLihk3inEjkTQFP2DwEsTC4hBDO0+fMRx8t7abn585YY3qdmKpZc0E k2qPkfRUUmYNj06d1eV3KNYiu3MkVKUwhwrU9x8gQJEV7X1ghTQSlp2lvr3/DJJY /MYVXN6/1OfITnHvuwP/mYtoO6Kx8H9aIOkCivFyniba/bEH3CxlTJge6OCx9gTt EbpRe1t3tnz7tzR47ExNEGLLwO7n4UPF87kEcUeEbJrCURznW4JiQ4RqMQ31iMzt wEeCY49/9n+oadk8IZpqZvxdAuWXj9eayBuRFxhaErW7ML2LZKqBux9NhAnQTfTN jIazBkYIlyt/ondtFcqRYRjUNRqlEwFEtkmTlXjOrwRuUhKjt8daRw1WGtzag7n8 gq18eHliKZK5EF+4tlU90zWKBuHh3k2svHhK6EO7ZQ/6+nzOiyPy5Xo+Bk72BE7n l7QICQWSARi97Vfiv4hBNx3Qz0vKYFr5euBFSzMeo1es7YSxz9Sntsmsg0PfaM8q V795sB40ezglh7C0SMDZEoqO5sA7rnG9HWGl2WbmvUvaEIIhJ5BeVFpQ4hpG+FRR 5vqaNoCkfm85BZWD31p2 =HX2j -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f7823e1.9000...@hotmail.com
Re: Installing genesys on Debian - lateral thinking time?
On 31/03/12 23:19, Lisi wrote: The really sad thing about all this is that it works in Ubuntu 11.10 Unity on a live CD. The CD was sloow, but once it had loaded, I could scan with my LiDE 110. I think I would check out exactly what Ubuntu is using; after all it is based on Debian. Keith -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f7823c6.9020...@gmail.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On 01/04/12 19:30, richard wrote: > On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:13:46 +0300 > Mika Suomalainen wrote: > >> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Dear Richard, "Do not send "test" messages to determine whether your mail client is working" Kind regards -- Iceweasel/Firefox/Chrome/Chromium/Iceape/IE extensions for finding answers to Debian questions:- https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/collections/Scott_Ferguson/debian/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f7823ac.2080...@gmail.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
On Sun, 1 Apr 2012 10:13:46 +0300 Mika Suomalainen wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On 01.04.2012 01:00, richard wrote: > > Hi, Now can I see my postings ??? > > > > Please ignore > > > > Yes we can. But I think that somewhere read that you shouldn't send > testing of email addresses to this list. > > - -- > Mika Suomalainen Mika as you have appointed yourself as a list policeman, please explain how I am to test on whether or not I am now able to see my first posting without send a post ? If you check in the archives you will find I raised the problem a while ago , wanting to know if it was the way debian lists are managed , and from that found my ISP was using gmail and blocking mail addressed back to the sender as a list posting does. You have increased the bandwidth used with your huge sig block as well as the answer for me. OR WERE YOU JUST TROLLING ? -- Best wishes / 73 Richard Bown e-mail: rich...@g8jvm.com or richard.b...@blueyonder.co.uk nil carborundum a illegitemis ## Ham Call G8JVM . OS Fedora FC16 x86_64 on a Dell Insiron N5030 laptop Maidenhead QRA: IO82SP38, LAT. 52 39.720' N LONG. 2 28.171 W ( degs mins ) QRV HF + VHF Microwave 23 cms:140W,13 cms:100W,6 cms:10W & 3 cms:5W ## -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120401103044.7372c...@lap.g8jvm.com
Re: Installing genesys on Debian
On 31/03/12 22:57, Lisi wrote: On Saturday 31 March 2012 18:34:23 Dom wrote: On 31/03/12 17:36, ntrfug wrote: On Sat, 31 Mar 2012 11:29:39 +0100 Lisi wrote: I am trying to install genesys, first in my Lenny box and then in Squeeze. The SANE website says that my scanner is fully supported. Running Wheezy here. The standard Debian sane packages seem to have support for the Canon LiDE 110. **What are you referring to as "the standard Debian Sane packages"?** They might be in Squeeze backports. I'm due some luck! Specifically libsane and libsane-common. Wheezy is currently on version 1.0.22-7 of these packages. From the changelog, I am certain that support for the LiDE was added in one of the early 1.0.22 releases, and a few fixes applied soon after that. Thanks for your input. You're welcome :-) -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f781711.6090...@rpdom.net
Make fully encrypted disk without LVM during install
Hi all, I plan on installing testing on a brand new disk later this week. Last time I did this I just followed the options the installer offered and ended up with a perfectly fine system on a fully encrypted disk using LVM. This time I need my disk to be easily portable, so I prefer to have a fully encrypted disk without LVM. Not that LVM is a problem in itself, but I could do without the hassle it brings with it when you want to mount that disk on another system where that system will not boot from it. I know it can be done even with LVM, but in this case it is more of a bother than a help because I am quite sure I won't need to resize the partitions. Is there some combination of options in the installer that supports this choice? If there is I am propbably very dense today, because I can't seem to find it. I'd really appreciate it if someone could give me some pointers in the right direction. Grx HdV -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201204010927.12260.hdv.ja...@gmail.com
Re: OT:change of mail provider
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01.04.2012 01:00, richard wrote: > Hi, Now can I see my postings ??? > > Please ignore > Yes we can. But I think that somewhere read that you shouldn't send testing of email addresses to this list. - -- Mika Suomalainen > gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys > 4DB53CFE82A46728 Key fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 > 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 >> NOTE: The old key (62FE66853913CB03) expires on 03.04.2012! -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJPeAAoAAoJEE21PP6CpGcoHWcQALxYtwF9X48Cvfehcbh0K0d2 /K4H6k7xr0h/+acPcocK5CGrofdHeiZZ5zVcKauQJgHA9V9h+T4FX6Jp/IUeJIb+ 5OgTQBkYy0gp/LN1jN5J9f3JVk3EV3WgupyMcXBSB1Gx65Jiua8c6wN+D5Pk/NXK V5UvzqdBygNFtzO/UwvKukyMwmzmvu6DF+cMlsma0l1mlfqBaZ4ghvqpRayxrQp8 28utDBNftmZC7be2wSxgzbcmBg8VwnG30Hdw4nvNUT2RzJ5Phc4oaeEjBkKdbZ52 XxosrufVhsmxpTMbfTzrptW2dcCWBsAIo+01Ep8QgIbvsyfOYTB0EA6ousV2U2rf TbnJZM4VljzJV61+if6r+jM4USFZLDxj5xwfAFQwXSKtzn6OJSSyOfB7VF6z8+VA idG5JKFt5DzfymxKv6tMaDuuJjlXrfkHszifPYaIkjbVPgC92ipi+b8I2aB7YvZA DdeJNj9y5xSCBzG4CAJ1oNnpnNbw/oLYCHR658OzFNzBkQHmsZKe+F2X0lhvmgHt dUPQzHZ/XLT7EPAZbqMHy/+TppQ+WMJYesmkEqib75AssaHE0VVzxqdWsqOUK7f6 eLHMqlyhRdVaCVAIcvun2CV22LzxOG3PlMo2+X6oZn6GxO/AK9n+G6UwiQAJLcps qT3fDMQ5xCNqws/X2atN =zjxO -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4f78002a.1050...@hotmail.com
