Re: [Wheezy AMD64] skype sources.list

2012-04-27 Thread JB
Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 18:59 +0200, Guillaume Seren a écrit :
 On 26/04/2012 18:35, JB wrote:
  Le jeudi 26 avril 2012 à 17:59 +0200, Guillaume Seren a écrit :
  On 26/04/2012 17:41, JB wrote:
  Dans le menu d'option vidéos de skype,
  dans la liste sous 'Choisissez une webcam', as tu quelque chose ?
 
  oui avec /dev/video0 et le pétigré de la Labtec (code etc..)
  JB1
 Quel est le comportement lorsque tu lance le test vidéo ?
 
 
bonjour Guillaume  et les autres,
le test video de skype, enlève le mot test et la partie écran reste 
entièrement noir avec le menu de choix divers pour ce test
bonne journée
A+
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Sauvegarder tous ses menus

2012-04-27 Thread Nahliel Steinberg
Bonjour,

J'ai sur ma debian, un sous menu que j'ai crée sous le menu système.

Il contient lui même une palanquée de menus ou j'y ai mis des commandes 
spécifiques.

Comment puis-je faire pour sauvegarder ce menu pour l'intégrer à une autre 
machine debian, meme version ?
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Re: Probleme WI-FI sur un ACER Aspire 7250

2012-04-27 Thread deb-account

On 26/04/12 15:53, Rene Mages wrote:

Merci d'avoir aussi apporter de l'aide.
En réalité je regrette beaucoup d'avoir conseillé à un membre de mon
LUG ( Linux-Azur ) un tel Laptop ACER ( un modèle bas de gamme à 329
euros ) car il ~freeze~ souvent ( le problème est hélas classique
parait-il ).

   

Pas de chance :-(

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Re: Probleme WI-FI sur un ACER Aspire 7250

2012-04-27 Thread Bzzz
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:32:09 +0200
deb-account theedge...@free.fr wrote:

 
 Pas de chance :-(
 
Pas de chance c'est vite dit, acer a tjrs fait partie des marques
qui multiplient les nouveaux modèles avec le hard qui lui tombe sous
la main, sans compter que de la maintenance des anciens est quasiment
inexistante...
Enfin, ça prouve qu'ils ont un bon marketing.


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Gnome shell : bug de notify-send

2012-04-27 Thread Nicolas Roudninski
Bonjour,

Nouveau sous Gnome shell, j'ai un bug au nouveau de notify-send : des
notifications apparaissent très (trop) régulièrement (toutes les 2/3
minutes) sans s'effacer au sujet de Maximum Performance Mode. Au bout
d'un moment, toute la barre de notification (en bas) est remplie de ces
mêmes notifications. Je cherche désespéremment un moyen d'éviter ce truc
super ch...


Re: Gnome shell : bug de notify-send

2012-04-27 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage
Le vendredi 27 avril 2012 à 15:28:15, Nicolas Roudninski a écrit 
:
 Bonjour,

’jour,

 Nouveau sous Gnome shell, j'ai un bug au nouveau de
 notify-send : des notifications apparaissent très (trop)
 régulièrement (toutes les 2/3 minutes) sans s'effacer au
 sujet de Maximum Performance Mode. Au bout d'un moment,
 toute la barre de notification (en bas) est remplie de ces
 mêmes notifications. Je cherche désespéremment un moyen
 d'éviter ce truc super ch...

Virer Gnome ?

Eh, on est vendredi !

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[Un peu HS] Fonction de protection de blancs et d'autres caractères...

2012-04-27 Thread David BERCOT
Bonjour,

Dans un script, je travaille sur des fichiers qui ont, dans leurs noms
complets (répertoire + nom de fichier), des blancs et d'autres
caractères spéciaux. Ceci me pose bien évidemment des problèmes sur
certains traitements.

Je me demandais s'il existait une fonction de base qui permette de
transformer le nom initial en nom... utilisable. Par exemple,
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038 - Test
d'installation De/*.vmdk
serait transformé en
/vmfs/volumes/4f33a50e-0762c7f9-9763-001a6436484a/s47z038\ -\ Test\
d\'installation\ De/*.vmdk [oui, c'est de l'ESX ;-)]

Si vous avez une piste, je suis preneur (dans mon exemple, il y a à la
fois des blancs et une apostrophe, mais j'imagine qu'il existe d'autres
caractères bizarres).

Merci.

David.

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Re: [Matériel] Cherche modèle de carte SATA sans RAID

2012-04-27 Thread Tanguy Ortolo
Tanguy Ortolo, 2012-04-19 13:39+0200:
 Dans notre cas, il serait largement plus intéressant de disposer d'une
 carte contrôleur qui ne fasse qu'exposer les périphériques individuels,
 sans gestion RAID d'aucune sorte, d'où ma question : sauriez-vous s'il
 existe dans le commerce des modèles de carte SATA interne (8 × SATA sur
 2 ports mini-SAS) qui ne fasse *pas* RAID (et qui fonctionne nativement
 sous Debian Squeeze…) ?

Après quelques recherche, trouvé ! Les cartes LSI SAS 9211-8i sont de
« simples adaptateurs SAS/SATA », dont le pilote est intégré au noyau
Linux de Debian Squeeze.

En réalité, elles intègrent tout de même un firmware capable de faire,
dans sa version d'origine, du RAID.  Sans le configurer pour cela, il
expose les périphériques individuels, laisse passer le SMART et bloque
le TRIM.

Ce firmware « IR » (integrated RAID) peut être remplacé [1] par un
firmware [2] « IT » (initiator target) qui ne fait pas de RAID (et qui
fait de l'iSCSI, accessoirement). Ce firmware alternatif expose
directement les périphériques, laissant passer le SMART et le TRIM.

[1] http://kb.lsi.com/KnowledgebaseArticle16266.aspx
[2] 
http://www.lsi.com/products/storagecomponents/Pages/LSISAS9211-8i.aspx#four

Voilà, une carte SATA interne sans fioritures, c'est un peu compliqué
parce que ça nécessite un re-flashage, mais ça existe bel et bien !

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[Wheezy] Firestarter 1.0.3

2012-04-27 Thread JB
Bonsoir,
Firestarter 1.0.3,
pour cette version, le choix Connexions actives n'affichent plus les
valeurs
bonne soirée
A+
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pas de carte son détectée + pas de /proc/asound

2012-04-27 Thread andre_debian
Bonsoir,

Je tente d'installer cette carte son :

ATI HDMI Radéon HD 5700

(intégrée à la carte mère Asus, PCI)

Je n'ai pas de fichier /etc/proc/asound.
(comment le remettre ?)

Alsa est installé.

La carte son n'est pas du tout détectée.
(Elle fonctionne sous Windows seven)

Je suis sous Squeeze.

Grand merci d'une aide.

andré

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Re: pas de carte son détectée + pas de /proc/asound

2012-04-27 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Bonsoir,
Le 27/04/12, andre_deb...@numericable.frandre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
 Bonsoir,

 Je tente d'installer cette carte son :

 ATI HDMI Radéon HD 5700

J'ai entendu dire que souvent ce genre de composant était un peu problématique.

 (intégrée à la carte mère Asus, PCI)

 Je n'ai pas de fichier /etc/proc/asound.
 (comment le remettre ?)

tu es sûr ? Chez moi c'est /proc/asound/* et non /etc/proc/asound/*
Il devrait au moins y avoi run fichier cards et un fichier modules.

 Alsa est installé.

 La carte son n'est pas du tout détectée.

Peut-être qu'il faudrait patcher ou backporter le noyau.
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Re: pas de carte son détectée + pas de /proc/asound

2012-04-27 Thread andre_debian
On Friday 27 April 2012 19:38:00 Raphaël POITEVIN wrote:
 Le 27/04/12, andre_deb...@numericable.frandre_deb...@numericable.fr 
  Je tente d'installer cette carte son :
  ATI HDMI Radéon HD 5700
  (intégrée à la carte mère Asus, PCI)

 J'ai entendu dire que souvent ce genre de composant était un peu
 problématique.

  Je n'ai pas de fichier /etc/proc/asound.
  (comment le remettre ?)

 tu es sûr ? Chez moi c'est /proc/asound/* et non /etc/proc/asound/*
 Il devrait au moins y avoi run fichier cards et un fichier modules :

c'est /proc/asound/
Il est absent.

  Alsa est installé.
  La carte son n'est pas du tout détectée.

 Peut-être qu'il faudrait patcher ou backporter le noyau.
 Raphaël POITEVIN

Désolé, je ne sais pas comment  patcher ou backporter le noyau.

J'ai rajouté une carte vidéo SoundBalster (slot PCI).
Reboot mais toujours pareil.
Elle n'est pas détectée.

Merci.

andré

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Re: pas de carte son détectée + pas de /proc/asound

2012-04-27 Thread Raphaël POITEVIN
Le 27/04/12, andre_deb...@numericable.frandre_deb...@numericable.fr a écrit :
 c'est /proc/asound/
 Il est absent.

 Désolé, je ne sais pas comment  patcher ou backporter le noyau.

Avant de backporter, il faudrait éventuellement envoyer sur laliste la
sortie de :
lspci -vv | grep snd
Peut-être que d'autres sur la liste auront une idée si on peut éviter
le backport.

Sinon pour backporter, il faut ajouter les dépôts dans le fichier
/etc/apt/sources.list :
deb http://backports.debian.org/ debian-backports squeeze-backports
main contrib non-free
Puis faire un aptitude update
Ensuite, instaler le bon package linux-image en fonction de
l'architecture.
Par exemple :
aptitude install linux-image-3.2.0-0.bpo.2-686-pae
si c'est un 32 bits.
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60 AÑOS DE UNA REVISTA IMPROBABLE

2012-04-27 Thread El Ciervo



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las realizadas vía correo electrónico, que EL CIERVO, S.A.realice con fines 
promocionales o informativos de las actividades que organiza y/o apoya con 
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Hacer que OSCNG pueda alimentar a puppet

2012-04-27 Thread jmramirez (mas_ke_na)
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Buenas .

Tengo actualmente un helpdesk llamado glpi [1] el cual se alimenta
de los equipos inventariados con ocsng [2]. Estoy probando el software
para cmdb ( que trae helpdesk y otras funciones interesantes) llamado
itop [3]. Para que el ocsng pueda tener los datos, se instalo el
software cliente en las maquinas de la compañía.

He intentado alimentar la cmbd (itop) con los datos del ocs, pero
no he dado con el botón adecuado. Puedo exportar desde ocs en formato
csv e importarlo en itop. Pero me faltan campos y es algo que no seria
automagico. He visto que itop puede ser alimentado [4] por puppet [5].

Ahora estaba pensando en que ocsng alimente a puppet y este alimente
a itop. Pero no estoy seguro de que se pueda hacer, veo poca información
sobre esto exactamente.

Quería saber si alguien de por aquí se ha visto en alguna situación
parecida y cual fue su solución. Necesitamos una cmdb que sea dinámica y
si fuera compatible con ocs ya seria perfecto. En glpi tiene un plugin
llamado appliances [6] pero no tiene los campos necesarios (contiene a,
hace uso de, de que depende X software, etc)

Sino, me temo que la única opción se desinstalar el ocs y poner el
cliente de puppet.

[1] http://glpi-project.org
[2] http://www.ocsinventory-ng.org/
[3] http://sourceforge.net/projects/itop/
[4] http://wiki.opencsi.com/public/bin/view/SOIF/Facts+to+iTop
[5] http://puppetlabs.com/community/overview/
[6] http://plugins.glpi-project.org/spip.php?article18

PD: He intentado ser claro y contar todo el problema, si os faltan
datos. solo pedirlos.

Un saludo y gracias por leerme

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Camisa de volantes preciosa/ Sandalia en plataforma de esparto y tacón alto

2012-04-27 Thread Canbecando.es
Camisa de volantes preciosa/ Sandalia en plataforma de esparto y tac�n alto

Re: Se busca partición Ext3

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:40:06 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:

 El día 26 de abril de 2012 07:27, julio jul...@escomposlinux.org
 escribió:
 El jue, 26-04-2012 a las 02:16 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:
 Ya está solucionado. Lo arreglé con testdisk ahí estaba la partición
 en Ext3. Me la recuperó íntegra sin ningún problema aparente.

 Todo lo que había subido, afortunadamente volvió a su sitio ;-)

Ya veo que al final has podido rescatar los datos, menos mal...

 Pues ahora viene la segunda parte... que es cuando te das cuenta de la
 importancia de tener backup de las cosas que importa conservar :)

 Es que este era el backup, estaba restaurando los datos. El principal lo
 tenía a reparar y me lo tienen que enviar para poder extraer el disco
 duro. Aún tengo un tercer disco con una copia integra de los datos, pero
 a fecha de noviembre 2011. Por eso decía que no me encontraba en la
 mejor situación binaria.

Buf, pues qué mala suerte, digo, que el disco con la copia falle :-(

 Me temo que perdió la partición por una subida de corriente, ya me cascó
 el ordenador y me vi obligado a comprar otro debido al coste de
 reparación-sustitución de como poco la pantalla. 

Es lo que tienen los iMac, su belleza termina cuando empiezan los 
problemas ;-P

Creo que ya lo comenté en alguna ocasión en otra lista... aunque lo ideal 
es tener un SAI, las fuentes de alimentación de los equipos deberían 
incorporar ya una mini-batería de serie para estar protegidas de picos y 
apagones, no sé, al menos 3 min., el tiempo justo para o bien apagar el 
ordenador correctamente o ponerlo a hibernar.

 Pero ya tengo encargado un SAI - Estabilizador de corriente.

En el caso de los discos externos es necesario un SAI, sip... y cuando no 
tienes una batería detrás es mejor mantenerlos apagados y encenderlos 
sólo el tiempo que dure el proceso de copia para minimizar los posibles 
daños al máximo.
 
 Un saludo y os reitero mi agradecimiento

:-)

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Re: Actualizar Octave en Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 25 Apr 2012 16:34:13 -0300, Darío escribió:

 Bueno ahora que llegué a mi facultad, están usando la versión 0.7.4,
 algo más adelantada de la que tengo instalada. 

¿Te refieres a Octave? ¿Cómo es eso posible?

La 3.6.1 es la última versión estable. Como no sea alguna versión en 
desarrollo... aún así, ese número 0.7.4 no me termina de encajar :-?

 Lástima que no pueda ver la versión que me indica con aptitude o apt
 porque hay que ser root.

Como te comenta Walter, no necesitas ser root para ver información sobre 
los paquetes que tienes instalados :-)

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Re: Instalación de Debían como servidor de Archivos y Servidor Proxy en un Servidor DELL PowerEdge 1600SC

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Wed, 25 Apr 2012 18:21:16 -0500, (_.¤´¯`· Gaßo ·´¯`¤._) escribió:

 Bueno este servidor ya viejito lo quiero utilizar para que sea un
 servidor de archivos y también un servidor proxy para aumentar la
 velocidad de la conexiona internet, la problemática radica que según lo
 que eh investigado algunos sitios hablan de que es compatible con Fedora
 pero mencionan que se les ah dificultado la instalación de este por el
 hecho de los discos SCSI.

Si trabaja con Fedora no veo por qué no ha de hacerlo en cualquier otra 
distribución de linux teniendo en cuenta que los discos SCSI se soportan 
en el kernel desde hace... la tira de años :-)

 Hasta el momento en ningún sitio veo que digan que han instalado Debian
 o que intentaron siquiera instalar Ubuntu, pero quisiera saber si
 alguien ah tenido una experiencia con este tipo de servidores y mucho
 mas con esta configuración, espero que puedan ayudarme y orientarme
 sobre el tema ya que es la primera vez que pongo linux en un servidor y
 mas aun en un entorno de trabajo activo.

Pues lo mejor que puedes hacer es descargar una versión LiveCD y 
ejecutarla para ver con qué problemas te encuentras.

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Re: Tutorial Postfix con usuarios virtuales

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:41:11 +0200, Gorka escribió:

 Creo que Christoph Haas ha dejado de mantener sus tutoriales por falta
 de tiempo. 

¿Te refieres a estos?

http://workaround.org/

 ¿Qué tutorial es el más empleado actualmente para postfix con usuarios
 virtuales en Debian?

Yo siempre uso los que proporciona Postfix que sirven para todas las 
distribuciones:

http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html

Y cuando me trabo en algún punto concreto de la configuración (que en mi 
caso no es de las más habituales porque tengo Postfix+Cyrus+sasldb+SA
+Amavisd-new+ClamAV), tiro de Google.

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Re: Algun programa para conectarme a vnc,ssh,etc

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:45:12 -0300, Marcos Russo escribió:

 Buenos dias, estoy buscando algun programa grafico que pueda poner
 varias ip con algun icono cada uno y que permita clickeando supongamos
 el boton derecho
 y que me pueda conectar por ssh, vnc, samba,etc.

¿Mande? :-?

No me queda claro lo que buscas (una conexión SSH no tiene nada que ver 
con acceder a recurso vía samba o a un equipo remoto a través de VNC...).

¿Podrías detallar qué es lo que necesitas?

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2012-04-27 Thread newsletter
Reflexolog�a podal Tailandesa,dale un gustazo a tus pies /Fin de semana 2 
personas + Excursi�n avistamiento de delfines

Re: Actualizar Octave en Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Darío
 La 3.6.1 es la última versión estable. Como no sea alguna versión en
 desarrollo... aún así, ese número 0.7.4 no me termina de encajar :-?

Sí es verdad a mí tampoco, pero ese número es el que aparece en el
menú Help - About

 Como te comenta Walter, no necesitas ser root para ver información sobre
 los paquetes que tienes instalados :-)

Sí hoy me fijo con ese comando.

 Saludos,

Saludos

Te pusiste al día con las respuestas a la lista :-)

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Re: Actualizar Octave en Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:00:23 -0300, Darío escribió:

 La 3.6.1 es la última versión estable. Como no sea alguna versión en
 desarrollo... aún así, ese número 0.7.4 no me termina de encajar :-?
 
 Sí es verdad a mí tampoco, pero ese número es el que aparece en el menú
 Help - About

Pero ¿de qué aplicación, exactamente? ¿No será qtoctave?

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Re: Actualizar Octave en Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Darío
 Pero ¿de qué aplicación, exactamente? ¿No será qtoctave?

Sí tenés razón, 0.7.4 es la versión de qtoctave, tendré que comprobar
la de octave

 Saludos,

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Re: Hacer que OSCNG pueda alimentar a puppet

2012-04-27 Thread jmramirez (mas_ke_na)
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Camaleón escribió:
 El Fri, 27 Apr 2012 10:58:41 +0200, jmramirez (mas_ke_na) escribió:
 
 (...)
 
 He intentado alimentar la cmbd (itop) con los datos del ocs, pero
 no he dado con el botón adecuado. Puedo exportar desde ocs en formato
 csv e importarlo en itop. Pero me faltan campos y es algo que no seria
 automagico. 
 
 (...)
 
 Ni idea... no sé si has visto que en la documentación de iTop hay un 
 apartado de ayuda¹ para la integración con distintas herramientas y una 
 de ellas es OCSInventory². No sé si te servirá o te dará alguna pista :-?
 
 ¹http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/itop/index.php?title=Main_Page#Integration_with_other_tools
 ²http://sourceforge.net/apps/mediawiki/itop/index.php?title=Integrating_iTop_with_OCSInventory

Buenas

Muchas gracias maja. Necesito unas vacaciones. Llevo 3 días mirando por
la web, incluida como no la de itop y no he encontrado nada sobre ocs.
Si vi la integración con terceros la cual no pude hacer funcionar.

 
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Re: Actualizar Octave en Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Apr 2012 11:43:12 -0300, Darío escribió:

 Pero ¿de qué aplicación, exactamente? ¿No será qtoctave?
 
 Sí tenés razón, 0.7.4 es la versión de qtoctave, tendré que comprobar la
 de octave

Entonces estás de suerte porque Squeeze lleva la 0.9.2 ;-P

Pero oye... ¿qué versión Ubuntu tenéis en la facultad? Porque el qtoctave 
0.7.4 es el que tiene el repo backports de Hardy Heron y aunque no estoy 
muy puesta con los nombres ubuntianos me suena a antigualla.

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[(OT] mail list

2012-04-27 Thread Francisco Antonio

Hola, Espero que estén bien todos,

Bueno hace unos minutos encontré una solución a un modulo de apache. 
(que mato mi servicio web) en esta lista

debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org
me gusto tanto que quise agregarme a su mail list pero no puedo 
hacerlo¡?.- solo pude a su RSS. b
se que es tonta la pregunta pero eh buscado y no la pillo. (ah no tengo 
google) solo (https://duckduckgo.com).

se agradece quien pueda ayudarme gracias.

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Re: [(OT] mail list

2012-04-27 Thread Fabián Bonetti
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:10:49 -0300
Francisco Antonio francisc@linuxmail.org wrote:

vas a esta url http://lists.debian.org/debian-bugs-dist/

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2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:10:49 -0300, Francisco Antonio escribió:

 Bueno hace unos minutos encontré una solución a un modulo de apache.
 (que mato mi servicio web) en esta lista
 debian-bugs-d...@lists.debian.org
 me gusto tanto que quise agregarme a su mail list pero no puedo
 hacerlo¡?

¿Y qué hiciste exactamente para darte de alta?

 .- solo pude a su RSS. b se que es tonta la pregunta pero
 eh buscado y no la pillo. (ah no tengo google) solo
 (https://duckduckgo.com). se agradece quien pueda ayudarme gracias.

Prueba desde aquí, pero esa lista no genera archivos y está moderada, no 
sé si permitirá suscripciones.

http://lists.debian.org/debian-bugs-dist/

Puedes seguirla/leerla a través de Gmane o Google Groups.

http://news.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.devel.bugs.general
http://groups.google.com/group/linux.debian.bugs.dist/topics?gvc=2

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RE: Tutorial Postfix con usuarios virtuales

2012-04-27 Thread Gorka


 -Mensaje original-
 De: Camaleón [mailto:noela...@gmail.com]
 Enviado el: viernes, 27 de abril de 2012 15:42
 Para: debian-user-spanish@lists.debian.org
 Asunto: Re: Tutorial Postfix con usuarios virtuales
 
 El Thu, 26 Apr 2012 12:41:11 +0200, Gorka escribió:
 
  Creo que Christoph Haas ha dejado de mantener sus tutoriales por falta
  de tiempo.
 
 ¿Te refieres a estos?
 
 http://workaround.org/
 
  ¿Qué tutorial es el más empleado actualmente para postfix con usuarios
  virtuales en Debian?
 
 Yo siempre uso los que proporciona Postfix que sirven para todas las
 distribuciones:
 
 http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
 
 Y cuando me trabo en algún punto concreto de la configuración (que en mi
 caso no es de las más habituales porque tengo Postfix+Cyrus+sasldb+SA
 +Amavisd-new+ClamAV), tiro de Google.
 
 Saludos,
 
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Sí, me refiero a http://workaround.org pero creo que estaban buscando a gente 
para continuar con su mantenimiento, que está parado.
Lo de http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html es un poco duro de pelar para 
los que no sabemos tanto. Preferiría utilizar las herramientas más comunes para 
tener más respaldo luego cuando esté en producción. Además ahora creo creo que 
la tendencia es utilizar Postfixadmin para hacer la instalación más fácil 
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Re: [(OT] mail list SOLUCIONADO

2012-04-27 Thread Francisco Antonio

El 27/04/12 12:51, Fabián Bonetti escribió:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:10:49 -0300
Francisco Antoniofrancisc@linuxmail.org  wrote:

vas a esta url http://lists.debian.org/debian-bugs-dist/

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Re: Tutorial Postfix con usuarios virtuales

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
El Fri, 27 Apr 2012 18:37:31 +0200, Gorka escribió:

  Creo que Christoph Haas ha dejado de mantener sus tutoriales por
  falta de tiempo.
 
 ¿Te refieres a estos?
 
 http://workaround.org/
 
  ¿Qué tutorial es el más empleado actualmente para postfix con
  usuarios virtuales en Debian?
 
 Yo siempre uso los que proporciona Postfix que sirven para todas las
 distribuciones:
 
 http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html
 
 Y cuando me trabo en algún punto concreto de la configuración (que en
 mi caso no es de las más habituales porque tengo
 Postfix+Cyrus+sasldb+SA +Amavisd-new+ClamAV), tiro de Google.
 
 
 Sí, me refiero a http://workaround.org pero creo que estaban buscando a
 gente para continuar con su mantenimiento, que está parado. 

Ah, pues eso si que ya no lo sé... las guías para la configuración de 
Postfix con ISP parecen actuales, vaya.

 Lo de http://www.postfix.org/VIRTUAL_README.html es un poco duro de
 pelar para los que no sabemos tanto. Preferiría utilizar las
 herramientas más comunes para tener más respaldo luego cuando esté en
 producción. Además ahora creo creo que la tendencia es utilizar
 Postfixadmin para hacer la instalación más fácil (igual me equivoco).

Sí, en eso llevas razón, los documentos de Postfix no son fáciles, pero 
siempre me han resultado ser los más fiables a la larga.

Otra opción podría ser tirar de webmin que supongo que tendrá algún 
módulo para Postfix y demás añadidos (SA, MySQL, ClamAV...) aunque los 
front-end no son de mi agrado, la verdad. Si funcionan bien, perfecto, 
pero como se dejen algún parámetro por aplicar o lo hagan mal (valores 
duplicados, por ejemplo) te puedes volver tarumba buscando el error :-)

Volviendo al tema, los manuales para configurar usuarios virtuales en el 
servidor de correo dependerán del tipo de configuración que tengas, no 
encontrarás un manual único (a lo Señor de los Anillos) para 
satisfacerlos a todos ;-), por lo que si nos dices qué tipo de solución 
tienes implementada (con qué otros programas baila tu Postfix) 
seguramente alguien te podrá indicar alguna guía actualizada.

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Re: [(OT] mail list

2012-04-27 Thread JulHer
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Hola,

Ojito con las firmas graciosillas (como la que trae el correo raíz de
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saber que hace y lo lanza en su sistema se va a encontrar con su /
borrado.

http://www.linuxerz.org/2012/02/comandos-peligrosos-linux/
http://www.taringa.net/posts/linux/1783930/7-comandos-mortales-en-Linux.html

Un saludo

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Re: Tutorial Postfix con usuarios virtuales

2012-04-27 Thread Eduardo R . Barrera Pérez
Tirale un vistazo a: http://www.pri.jovenclub.cu/descargas/Postfix+LDAP+GOSA.pdf


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Re: Tutorial Postfix con usuarios virtuales

2012-04-27 Thread Ricardo Adolfo Sánchez Arboleda
http://www.howtoforge.com/perfect-server-debian-squeeze-with-bind-and-courier-ispconfig-3


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Ayuda con Zentyal-Debian6

2012-04-27 Thread academia
Hola lista. Quisiera que alguien me ayude en este detalle.

Tengo un servidor Zentyal y las estaciones de trabajo están en Debian 6 y
algunas pocas en Windows (Todas Unidas al dominio).

Desde la Interfaz de mi Zentyal puedo visualizar muy fácil los datos de
mis estaciones de trabajo conectadas:

Ej.
.
Dirección IP   Dirección MAC   Nombre de máquina

192.168.1.xx   00:1b:fc:f2:0b:1e   Economia
192.168.1.xx   00:02:a5:cf:89:38   Secretaria
192.168.1.xx   70:71:bc:e8:a3:07
192.168.1.xx   20:71:cb:e8:3a:74
.

Lo que me sucede es que no me deja visualizar en el campo Nombre de la
máquina (Ver ejemplo anterior) las estaciones de trabajo que están en
Debian 6. Sin embargo, si las que están en Windows, además también con
otras distros como Mint y Nova funciona. Por lo que veo la cosa está en
Debian.

Pudieran sugerirme qué hacer.

De antemanos, Gracias.


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Re: Se busca partición Ext3

2012-04-27 Thread J. OCTAVIO Avalos
El día 27 de abril de 2012 15:23, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 26 Apr 2012 08:40:06 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:

 El día 26 de abril de 2012 07:27, julio jul...@escomposlinux.org
 escribió:
 El jue, 26-04-2012 a las 02:16 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió:
 Ya está solucionado. Lo arreglé con testdisk ahí estaba la partición
 en Ext3. Me la recuperó íntegra sin ningún problema aparente.

 Todo lo que había subido, afortunadamente volvió a su sitio ;-)

 Ya veo que al final has podido rescatar los datos, menos mal...

 Pues ahora viene la segunda parte... que es cuando te das cuenta de la
 importancia de tener backup de las cosas que importa conservar :)

 Es que este era el backup, estaba restaurando los datos. El principal lo
 tenía a reparar y me lo tienen que enviar para poder extraer el disco
 duro. Aún tengo un tercer disco con una copia integra de los datos, pero
 a fecha de noviembre 2011. Por eso decía que no me encontraba en la
 mejor situación binaria.

 Buf, pues qué mala suerte, digo, que el disco con la copia falle :-(

 Me temo que perdió la partición por una subida de corriente, ya me cascó
 el ordenador y me vi obligado a comprar otro debido al coste de
 reparación-sustitución de como poco la pantalla.

 Es lo que tienen los iMac, su belleza termina cuando empiezan los
 problemas ;-P

 Creo que ya lo comenté en alguna ocasión en otra lista... aunque lo ideal
 es tener un SAI, las fuentes de alimentación de los equipos deberían
 incorporar ya una mini-batería de serie para estar protegidas de picos y
 apagones, no sé, al menos 3 min., el tiempo justo para o bien apagar el
 ordenador correctamente o ponerlo a hibernar.

 Pero ya tengo encargado un SAI - Estabilizador de corriente.

 En el caso de los discos externos es necesario un SAI, sip... y cuando no
 tienes una batería detrás es mejor mantenerlos apagados y encenderlos
 sólo el tiempo que dure el proceso de copia para minimizar los posibles
 daños al máximo.

Estoy de acuerdo contigo, no se por qué los equipos no incorporan una
batería que mantenga la tensión estable. Bueno para ser exactos si lo
sé. Se pierde negocio. Lástima que mi hermano pequeño ya no esté
porque os aseguro que a estas alturas ya tendría inventado un
artilugio para estos casos.

El SAI que tengo encargado es como una regleta que estabiliza la
tensión y tiene una batería para 12 minutos. Lo suficiente para que te
de tiempo a apagar el equipo.

Un saludo

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Re: Ayuda con Zentyal-Debian6

2012-04-27 Thread JulHer
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El 27/04/12 14:44, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:
 Lo que me sucede es que no me deja visualizar en el campo Nombre de
 la máquina (Ver ejemplo anterior) las estaciones de trabajo que
 están en Debian 6. Sin embargo, si las que están en Windows, además
 también con otras distros como Mint y Nova funciona. Por lo que veo
 la cosa está en Debian.

En Debian no. En tal caso en la configuración de Samba en esas
máquinas. Lo suyo es comparar las configuraciones de las máquinas Mint
y Nova con las Debian.

En concreto mira que tienes en la configuración de samba en las variables

[global]

   ...

netbios name = XXX
workgroup = XXX


Un saludo


JulHer
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Emparejar dispositivos bluetooth

2012-04-27 Thread J. OCTAVIO Avalos
Hola de nuevo,
Como os comenté en el otro hilo, tuve que cambiar de equipo por
problemas con la tensión eléctrica. El nuevo trae todo inalámbrico y
está dispuesto de que tanto ratón como teclado comiencen a funcionar
con el arranque del sistema, incluso con la configuración
predeterminada funciona con el REFIT, menu de Mac donde se muestran
los distintos S.O. que hay instalados, así como con el GRUB en donde
puedo escoger la opción de arranque en linux. Pero al llegar a gdm
donde me identifico para entrar en debian, dejan de funcionar, y una
vez dentro del mismo, ya no hay manera de emparejar el bluetooth, los
reconoce de una manera intermitente hasta que se cansa y se acabó.

En un par de ocasiones pude emparejar el teclado pero me lo configuró
como uno numerico.

¿Se pueden emparejar los dispositivos bluetooth en los dos sitemas Mac
y debian a la vez, sin necesidad de borrarlos previamente? ¿De ser
así, habría que hacerlo con el pin de Mac para que funcione en el
arranque? o ... (Esta es para nota) ¿Se puede activar en debian el
bluetooth antes del GRUB? No me parece posible porque aún no cargó el
kernel por eso para que funcione con REFIT tiene que estar configurado
y emparejado con Mac.

Un saludo

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Lexmark x1185 con CUPS

2012-04-27 Thread Robert J. Briones C.
Estimados.

Alguien tiene algún manual de como instalar la lexmark X1185 en Cups,

he buscado información y no he ecnontrado nada,

leí por ahí que se instala con los driver de la z600 que los baje de
la página de lexmark, pero en realidad ese modelo no lo encuentro en
la página, y menos el soporte para linuix.


Tampoco he encontrado la x1185 o la z600 en la lista de impresora de
http://www.openprinting.org/printers

Si alguien tiene información de como poder instalarla (es para
compartirla en red), se lo agradecería.

saludos.


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Re: Dúvidas sobre Roteador com Iptables

2012-04-27 Thread Fábio Rabelo
Provavelmente sim ...

Mas o que são estas 4 placas de rede ?

Pela minha experiência profisional, boas placas de rede fazem uma diferença
brutal na performance de roteadores/gateways/proxys ...


Fábio Rabelo


Em 27 de abril de 2012 09:57, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 A princípio inciarei os testes em um quad core com 2 GB de RAM e depois
 esse firewall e roteador rodarão em um servidor HP com six core e 16 GB de
 RAM com 4 NICs. Acredito que essa configuração esteja sobrando não acha?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 22:46, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Se o Sr. tiver o hardware adequado, não vejo nenhum problema ...

 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 26 de abril de 2012 18:59, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Grande Fábio!

 Estou sériamente enclinado a usar esta solução mas preciso saber do
 senhor se este ambiente suporta um grande fluxo de dados pois a coisa no
 trabalho é punk pro o senhor ter uma idéia é uma unidade de uma grande
 universidade e o que eu estou pretendendo fazer sei que serei chamado de
 maluco pelo senhor e demais colegas de profissão mas é substituir o PF do
 Unix OpenBSD para o Iptables rodando em Debian por ordens do meu superior
 hierárquico devido a facilidade de administração. O que o senhor acha disto?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 13:30, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Isto mesmo ...

 Eu uso a mais de 10 anos, o desenvolvedor principal do shorewall é um
 profissional de segurança, ele precisava de uma ferramenta que lhe
 permitisse administrar uma grande quantidade de firewalls/gateways/proxys
 sem ser obrigado a perder horas depurando os scripts manuais, e que lhe
 permitisse realizar o trabalho remotamente .

 O Sr. administra servidores remotamente ? já ocorreu de se travar
 sem acesso a um servidor em que o Sr. estava fazendo alguma modificação ?

 Eu sim, e descobri o shorewall exatamente depois de uma situação destas
 ...


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 26 de abril de 2012 13:06, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Ah! Sim agora entendi, ele é um pacote cujo a finalidade é trabalhar
 entre o iptables e o admin como o senhor mesmo explicou e possui uma
 interface que torna tanto a dministração quanto a implementação do 
 firewall
 mais amigável. Não seria isso então?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 12:19, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

  Não, o Shorewall não é um apliance, é um front-end .

 Ele fica entre o iptables e o administrador da rede, facilita em
 muito a administração qdo existem muitas regras do iptables .

 Eu uso geralmente o webmin para gerenciar o shorewall .

 O Shorewall pode ser instalado em qualquer distribuição !


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 26 de abril de 2012 11:19, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Muito obrigado Fábio pela resposta!

 Eu já andei considerando sim alguns appliance como o próprio
 Untangle que já é Debian, o endian e o pfsense, mas tenho o desejo de
 dominar a administração e implementação de roteadores/firewalls em 
 iptables
 na mão mesmo mas confesso que essas soluções não estão descartadas. Será
 que para uma rede de aproximadamente 2500 usuários e mais de 3000 
 pontos de
 rede e com um link de internet de 1Gb o shorewall suportaria numa boa 
 sem
 pedir arrego? Claro, considerando que ele será instalado em um servidor
 robusto também. O shorewall é um appliance também? Baseado em que
 distribuição?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 10:40, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br escreveu:

 Bom dia ...

 Se o Sr. considera difícil o uso direto do iptables, o Sr. poderia
 considerar um front-end !
 Eu uso o shorewall :

 http://shorewall.net/

 http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/debian/

 um simples  apt-get install shorewall-perl  e já estará instalado
 .

 E para manter um número muito grande de regras, ele é uma
 verdadeira mão na massa !!!


 Fábio Rabelo




 Em 25 de abril de 2012 22:56, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Boa noite queridos amigos!

 Estou construindo um roteador com iptables para o trabalho mas
 antes estou colhendo bastante informações pois não considero esta
 ferramenta fácil mas já estou tendo algum exito a miha dúvida é a
 seguinte... por ser um roteador devo prestar atenção nas regras INPUT 
 que
 no caso seria relacionado ao próprio host (sistema) e FORWARD que 
 trataria
 dos pacotes vão atravessar este host, sendo assim, as regras de 
 proteção
 eu devo implementá-las tanto em INPUT quanto em FARWARD ex:

 *#==
 # REGRAS PARA PROTEÇÃO
 #==
 ## INPUT

 # CONTRA PING DA MORTE
 iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m limit
 --limit 1/s -j ACCEPT

 # ACEITANDO CONEXÕES
 iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT


 # CONTRA PORTCAN OCULTO
 iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,ACK,FIN,RST RST -m limit
 --limit 1/s -j ACCEPT
 iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN,ACK -j DROP

 # ACEITANDO CONEXÕES
 iptables -A INPUT -m state --state 

Re: Dúvidas sobre Roteador com Iptables

2012-04-27 Thread Moksha Tux
São 4 placas GB Ethernet da broadcom muito boas por sinal

Em 27 de abril de 2012 10:09, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Provavelmente sim ...

 Mas o que são estas 4 placas de rede ?

 Pela minha experiência profisional, boas placas de rede fazem uma
 diferença brutal na performance de roteadores/gateways/proxys ...


 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 27 de abril de 2012 09:57, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 A princípio inciarei os testes em um quad core com 2 GB de RAM e depois
 esse firewall e roteador rodarão em um servidor HP com six core e 16 GB de
 RAM com 4 NICs. Acredito que essa configuração esteja sobrando não acha?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 22:46, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Se o Sr. tiver o hardware adequado, não vejo nenhum problema ...

 Fábio Rabelo


 Em 26 de abril de 2012 18:59, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Grande Fábio!

 Estou sériamente enclinado a usar esta solução mas preciso saber do
 senhor se este ambiente suporta um grande fluxo de dados pois a coisa no
 trabalho é punk pro o senhor ter uma idéia é uma unidade de uma grande
 universidade e o que eu estou pretendendo fazer sei que serei chamado de
 maluco pelo senhor e demais colegas de profissão mas é substituir o PF do
 Unix OpenBSD para o Iptables rodando em Debian por ordens do meu superior
 hierárquico devido a facilidade de administração. O que o senhor acha 
 disto?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 13:30, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.brescreveu:

 Isto mesmo ...

 Eu uso a mais de 10 anos, o desenvolvedor principal do shorewall é um
 profissional de segurança, ele precisava de uma ferramenta que lhe
 permitisse administrar uma grande quantidade de firewalls/gateways/proxys
 sem ser obrigado a perder horas depurando os scripts manuais, e que lhe
 permitisse realizar o trabalho remotamente .

 O Sr. administra servidores remotamente ? já ocorreu de se travar
 sem acesso a um servidor em que o Sr. estava fazendo alguma modificação ?

 Eu sim, e descobri o shorewall exatamente depois de uma situação
 destas ...


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 26 de abril de 2012 13:06, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Ah! Sim agora entendi, ele é um pacote cujo a finalidade é trabalhar
 entre o iptables e o admin como o senhor mesmo explicou e possui uma
 interface que torna tanto a dministração quanto a implementação do 
 firewall
 mais amigável. Não seria isso então?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 12:19, Fábio Rabelo fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br
  escreveu:

  Não, o Shorewall não é um apliance, é um front-end .

 Ele fica entre o iptables e o administrador da rede, facilita em
 muito a administração qdo existem muitas regras do iptables .

 Eu uso geralmente o webmin para gerenciar o shorewall .

 O Shorewall pode ser instalado em qualquer distribuição !


 Fábio Rabelo



 Em 26 de abril de 2012 11:19, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Muito obrigado Fábio pela resposta!

 Eu já andei considerando sim alguns appliance como o próprio
 Untangle que já é Debian, o endian e o pfsense, mas tenho o desejo de
 dominar a administração e implementação de roteadores/firewalls em 
 iptables
 na mão mesmo mas confesso que essas soluções não estão descartadas. 
 Será
 que para uma rede de aproximadamente 2500 usuários e mais de 3000 
 pontos de
 rede e com um link de internet de 1Gb o shorewall suportaria numa boa 
 sem
 pedir arrego? Claro, considerando que ele será instalado em um servidor
 robusto também. O shorewall é um appliance também? Baseado em que
 distribuição?

 Moksha

 Em 26 de abril de 2012 10:40, Fábio Rabelo 
 fa...@fabiorabelo.wiki.br escreveu:

 Bom dia ...

 Se o Sr. considera difícil o uso direto do iptables, o Sr. poderia
 considerar um front-end !
 Eu uso o shorewall :

 http://shorewall.net/

 http://people.connexer.com/~roberto/debian/

 um simples  apt-get install shorewall-perl  e já estará
 instalado .

 E para manter um número muito grande de regras, ele é uma
 verdadeira mão na massa !!!


 Fábio Rabelo




 Em 25 de abril de 2012 22:56, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Boa noite queridos amigos!

 Estou construindo um roteador com iptables para o trabalho mas
 antes estou colhendo bastante informações pois não considero esta
 ferramenta fácil mas já estou tendo algum exito a miha dúvida é a
 seguinte... por ser um roteador devo prestar atenção nas regras 
 INPUT que
 no caso seria relacionado ao próprio host (sistema) e FORWARD que 
 trataria
 dos pacotes vão atravessar este host, sendo assim, as regras de 
 proteção
 eu devo implementá-las tanto em INPUT quanto em FARWARD ex:

 *#==
 # REGRAS PARA PROTEÇÃO
 #==
 ## INPUT

 # CONTRA PING DA MORTE
 iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -m limit
 --limit 1/s -j ACCEPT

 # ACEITANDO CONEXÕES
 iptables -A INPUT -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT


 # CONTRA PORTCAN OCULTO
 iptables -A INPUT -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,ACK,FIN,RST RST -m 

Qual é a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo?

2012-04-27 Thread John DeRose
Olá,

Estive adicionando um usuário no grupo sudo através do gerenciador gráfico.
Após reiniciar a máquina conferi o arquivo /etc/sudoers e vi que não teve
alteração, porem o usuário agora tem acesso ao comando sudo.

Gostaria de saber qual o arquivo que define os usuários que podem
utilizar o sudo, e qual a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo para
algum usuário.

Alguem pode ajudar?

abraço.
John.


Re: Qual é a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo?

2012-04-27 Thread Gabriel Ricardo
É esse arquivo mesmo, só que o grupo deve estar liberado dessa maneira:

%sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL

quando é *% *sudo, quer dizer o grupo inteiro
para liberar só usuarios, adicione assim

gabriel ALL=(ALL) ALL



Atenciosamente,
*Gabriel Ricardo.*
www.tinotapa.com.br



Em 27 de abril de 2012 16:20, John DeRose hax0...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá,

 Estive adicionando um usuário no grupo sudo através do gerenciador gráfico.
 Após reiniciar a máquina conferi o arquivo /etc/sudoers e vi que não teve
 alteração, porem o usuário agora tem acesso ao comando sudo.

 Gostaria de saber qual o arquivo que define os usuários que podem
 utilizar o sudo, e qual a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo para
 algum usuário.

 Alguem pode ajudar?

 abraço.
 John.



Re: Qual é a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo?

2012-04-27 Thread John DeRose
Ah entendi :)

Como no arquivo está %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
então nada precisou ser alterado, já que eu adicionei o usuário ao grupo
sudo.

Obrigado!
abraço.

Em 27 de abril de 2012 16:41, Gabriel Ricardo gricard...@gmail.comescreveu:

 É esse arquivo mesmo, só que o grupo deve estar liberado dessa maneira:

 %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL

 quando é *% *sudo, quer dizer o grupo inteiro
 para liberar só usuarios, adicione assim

 gabriel ALL=(ALL) ALL



 Atenciosamente,
 *Gabriel Ricardo.*
 www.tinotapa.com.br



 Em 27 de abril de 2012 16:20, John DeRose hax0...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá,

 Estive adicionando um usuário no grupo sudo através do gerenciador
 gráfico.
 Após reiniciar a máquina conferi o arquivo /etc/sudoers e vi que não teve
 alteração, porem o usuário agora tem acesso ao comando sudo.

 Gostaria de saber qual o arquivo que define os usuários que podem
 utilizar o sudo, e qual a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo para
 algum usuário.

 Alguem pode ajudar?

 abraço.
 John.





Re: Qual é a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo?

2012-04-27 Thread Molinero
Eu trocaria o DEVE estar liberado por PODE estar liberado.


On 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, Gabriel Ricardo wrote:
 É esse arquivo mesmo, só que o grupo deve estar liberado dessa maneira:

 %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL

 quando é *_% _*sudo, quer dizer o grupo inteiro
 para liberar só usuarios, adicione assim

 gabrielALL=(ALL) ALL



 Atenciosamente,
 */Gabriel Ricardo./*
 www.tinotapa.com.br http://www.tinotapa.com.br



 Em 27 de abril de 2012 16:20, John DeRose hax0...@gmail.com
 mailto:hax0...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá,

 Estive adicionando um usuário no grupo sudo através do gerenciador
 gráfico.
 Após reiniciar a máquina conferi o arquivo /etc/sudoers e vi que
 não teve alteração, porem o usuário agora tem acesso ao comando sudo.

 Gostaria de saber qual o arquivo que define os usuários que podem
 utilizar o sudo, e qual a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo
 para algum usuário.

 Alguem pode ajudar?

 abraço.
 John.




Re: Qual é a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo?

2012-04-27 Thread John DeRose
Olá,

Aproveitando...
A diferença entre essas definições:

ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL
ALL=(ALL) ALL

Seria que a primeira permite sudo sem digitar a senha do usuário e a outra
requer a senha?

abraço

Em 27 de abril de 2012 17:56, Molinero cybercro...@gmail.com escreveu:

  Eu trocaria o DEVE estar liberado por PODE estar liberado.



 On 04/27/2012 04:41 PM, Gabriel Ricardo wrote:

 É esse arquivo mesmo, só que o grupo deve estar liberado dessa maneira:

  %sudo ALL=NOPASSWD: ALL

  quando é *% *sudo, quer dizer o grupo inteiro
 para liberar só usuarios, adicione assim

  gabriel ALL=(ALL) ALL



  Atenciosamente,
 *Gabriel Ricardo.*
 www.tinotapa.com.br



 Em 27 de abril de 2012 16:20, John DeRose hax0...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Olá,

 Estive adicionando um usuário no grupo sudo através do gerenciador
 gráfico.
 Após reiniciar a máquina conferi o arquivo /etc/sudoers e vi que não teve
 alteração, porem o usuário agora tem acesso ao comando sudo.

 Gostaria de saber qual o arquivo que define os usuários que podem
 utilizar o sudo, e qual a forma correta de permitir o uso de sudo para
 algum usuário.

 Alguem pode ajudar?

 abraço.
 John.





Outras Dúvidas sobre Roteador com Iptables

2012-04-27 Thread Moksha Tux
Queridos amigos!

escrevendo o meu script de firewall me deparei com uma inquietante
dúvida... Quando eu declaro uma regra de redirecionamento com DNAT e SNAT e
especificando as portas somente isso já seria o suficiente para eu
estabelecer a conexão ou eu sou obrigado a liberar esta conexão pelo filtro
também? Ex:

# Para liberar o WWW da DMZ para a WAN

iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i $wan -d 200.100.100.100 -m
multiport --dport 80,3306 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.100.100.100
iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -s 172.100.100.100 -d 0/0 -m
multiport --dport 80,3306 -o $dmz -j SNAT --to-source 200.100.100.100

Será que eu também teria que criar uma regra na chain FORWARD liberando
essa conexão? Abraços,

Moksha


Re: Outras Dúvidas sobre Roteador com Iptables

2012-04-27 Thread Eden Caldas
Se a política padrão no seu script for DROP para as regras de forward, ou
se tiver alguma regra bloqueando, sim, precisa liberar com uma regra de
filter.

Eden Caldas
Consultor de TI
e...@linuxfacil.srv.br
(81) 9747 
(81) 9653 7220
LINUX FÁCIL – Consultoria e Serviços em TI


Em 27 de abril de 2012 18:34, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Queridos amigos!

 escrevendo o meu script de firewall me deparei com uma inquietante
 dúvida... Quando eu declaro uma regra de redirecionamento com DNAT e SNAT e
 especificando as portas somente isso já seria o suficiente para eu
 estabelecer a conexão ou eu sou obrigado a liberar esta conexão pelo filtro
 também? Ex:

 # Para liberar o WWW da DMZ para a WAN

 iptables -t nat -A PREROUTING -p tcp -i $wan -d 200.100.100.100 -m
 multiport --dport 80,3306 -j DNAT --to-destination 172.100.100.100
 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -p tcp -s 172.100.100.100 -d 0/0 -m
 multiport --dport 80,3306 -o $dmz -j SNAT --to-source 200.100.100.100

 Será que eu também teria que criar uma regra na chain FORWARD liberando
 essa conexão? Abraços,

 Moksha




dwww can't read some files

2012-04-27 Thread prad
once in a while i get
dwww will not allow you to read the file

for instance, when i look for clusterdb by searching for postgresql and
choosing the clusterdb link the error message is

Access denied
dwww will not allow you to read the file
/usr/share/postgresql/8.4/man/man1/clusterdb.1.gz 

the permissions are rw-r-r

yet these items all show up on a straight man:
man clusterdb

and will work even with dwww if i go a circuitous route:
click Manual pages
click C
click clusterdb

so it seems that there are 2 sets of man pages because the latter reads
fine from:
http://localhost/cgi-bin/dwww/usr/share/man/man1/clusterdb.1.gz?type=man
which is a softlink to
/etc/alternatives/clusterdb.1.gz

is there a way i can get dwww to work from the postgresql directory?


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-27 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 2:38 AM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 14:13:28 +0500
 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:

 i run this command

 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -d 8.8.4.4 -j MASQUERADE

 my client computers able to ping 8.8.4.4

 but  when i iptables --flush -t nat  it clrear the table but my
 client can still ping the destination.
 i check iptables-save is shows that tables are empty.
  i thought that there could be some kind of service related to iptable
  in /etc/init.d  folder so that i can restart that but there are none.
 and i notices after 5 minutes or so my clients computer were not able
 to ping which means my commands affects after 5 minutes.

 but i want prompt effect of every iptable command. is there any thing
 that can be done in this regard ? pls help

 one more thing what could be done to retain all the iptable statements
 even after reboot. i think writing all the iptables command in
 rc.local
 is not a good idea. it is work around.

 can any one plz help in this regard also.


 Iptables commands do work instantly, but state table entries may not
 disappear until after their timeout. It has already been pointed out
 that the MASQUERADE target is not appropriate for access control, so
 you should not be too concerned if it does not work as you expect. If
 you were to delete a real iptables access rule, there would be no delay.

Thanks for the clearing my concept.
however i read some of the part via google that there is a file
/etc/network/iptables in Debian from where all the startup scripts run
for FW . may be i didnt got the correct idea out of it. as i am new
and still learning.
so i thought that rc.local is not an appropriate route to choose.


 I use iptables and its logging fairly regularly for troubleshooting,
 which involves altering and repositioning rules to see what's going on,
 and I know there is no delay after reloading the rules tables. If you
 type an extra rule at a command prompt, it will work the instant you hit
 return, assuming you have it right and it doesn't conflict with what
 is already there. It's easier to add it to the script in the right
 place, and reload the rules tables.

 The usual way to organise iptables rules is to have a script that runs
 as part of the boot sequence, usually also checking for the correct
 modules, starting IP forwarding, etc. It isn't a workaround to run it
 from an rc, how else do you think things are started on boot? If you
 want something that looks like a daemon, it's not too hard to make a
 start-stop script that will load and flush the iptables rules, check
 which ruleset if any is currently running and generally work as a
 pseudo-service. It's not something that Debian supplies, as a lot of
 people prefer to use firewall applications rather than deal with raw
 iptables rules.


since the inception of my career i have been using Microsoft at server end. but
since i have started learning Linux i dont know what is the attraction in it.
i started liking command line. rather GUI. so i am not interested in
Applications.




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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Miles Bader
James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com writes:
 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at
 all costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

Hmm, can't you just run it in compability mode or whatever it's
called...?  [if you want to avoid gnome-shell... I don't see much
obvious difference between gnome 2 and gnome 3 otherwise]

My impression was that you could somehow force that from the login
screen (but I've never tried so I dunno).

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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-27 Thread Joe
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:06:37 +0500
Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the clearing my concept.
 however i read some of the part via google that there is a file
 /etc/network/iptables in Debian from where all the startup scripts run
 for FW . may be i didnt got the correct idea out of it. as i am new
 and still learning.
 so i thought that rc.local is not an appropriate route to choose.
 

That's a recommended default location if you use just the iptables-save
and -restore commands, but it isn't created on installation. A
newly-installed Debian system has no iptables infrastructure.

But the save and restore commands only give you the iptables rules, and
you may want to do other network-related things when the 'service' is
started, such as loading conntrack modules for unusual protocols.

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Re: What kind of digital video camera

2012-04-27 Thread Augustin
Allan and Keith,

Thank you very much to both for your comments. (of course, I welcome 
complementary comments from others...) 
I will take what you write into consideration; I will research more some of the 
aspects you mention. And I'll come back here if I have more specific questions.


Thanks for your help,

Augustin.



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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Jon Dowland
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 04:56:16PM +0900, Miles Bader wrote:
 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com writes:
  I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at
  all costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?
 
 Hmm, can't you just run it in compability mode or whatever it's
 called...?  [if you want to avoid gnome-shell... I don't see much
 obvious difference between gnome 2 and gnome 3 otherwise]
 
 My impression was that you could somehow force that from the login
 screen (but I've never tried so I dunno).

The Debian GNOME team are offering the fallback mode as GNOME classic
from GDM - however, it is pretty different to GNOME2 IMHO, and upstream
have said that it's a stop-gap so will be unsupported at some time in
the future.  I'd be surprised if it was in wheezy+1.

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Ellwood Blues
2012/4/26 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com:
 Hello,
 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
 costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

 Thanks
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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-27 Thread Tom H
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 12:06:37 +0500
 Muhammad Yousuf Khan sir...@gmail.com wrote:

 Thanks for the clearing my concept.
 however i read some of the part via google that there is a file
 /etc/network/iptables in Debian from where all the startup scripts run
 for FW . may be i didnt got the correct idea out of it. as i am new
 and still learning.
 so i thought that rc.local is not an appropriate route to choose.

 That's a recommended default location if you use just the iptables-save
 and -restore commands, but it isn't created on installation. A
 newly-installed Debian system has no iptables infrastructure.

 But the save and restore commands only give you the iptables rules, and
 you may want to do other network-related things when the 'service' is
 started, such as loading conntrack modules for unusual protocols.

It's best to run an iptables script from /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/.


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Re: Prompting for settings on first boot of a pre-installed image.

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 03:05:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 It would be nice having such a tool (oem-config) here. If the OP is 
 interested maybe he can suggest it to be packaged (ITP):

That would be Request For Package (RFP)

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Re: gdm3 cancels/ignores Control/CapsLock swap

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 07:31:44PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 I remember I had to do something similar to what you are seeking for 
 enabling the touchpad tap action at GDM3 but IIRC (I'm not in front of 
 my netbook where I have Wheezy with GDM3 installed) I had to edit one of 
 the Xorg configuration files that I had to copy from /usr/share/X11... 
 to /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/synapctic.conf (or something like that) and 
 then add a line to enable tapping at the login screen (don't ask me for 
 the exact key, I don't remember...).

Adding/creating the following worked to enable tapping on the key pad.

tal% less /etc/modprobe.d/touchpad.conf
options psmouse proto=imps

I don't use Gnome or a login manager, although I suspect that doesn't
matter much.

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RESOLVED - was [Re: NEWBIE sanity check re gnome-ppp PLEASE]

2012-04-27 Thread Richard Owlett

Richard Owlett wrote:

[snip]
DEBIAN 6.0.3 with GNOME desktop
2. initial attempt to use gnome-ppp failed
[snip synopsis of original troubleshooting


It was a permissions issue.
I was not a member of 'dialout' group.



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Re: What kind of digital video camera

2012-04-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 02:44:19AM +0800, Augustin wrote:
 Hello,
  
  I am about to purchase my very first digital video camera. I have never 
 bought 
 this kind of hardware before, and as a KDE user, I'd like to enquire what the 
 linux community would recommend. I want a low-to-mid range camera (up to 
 $500, 
 more only if specific features are worth the price difference).
  
  What specs should I pay attention to?
  Storage?
  Generally speaking, how is the linux support for digital video camera?
  What about kdenlive support?
  
If you get one with an SD card or other removable media, then you don't
need to worry about whether the manufacturer plays stupid games with the
camera-to-computer interface.  Just pull the SD card and put it into a
$10 card reader.

Several years back I bought a low-end Sanyo Xacti for $150.  My dad
bought a higher-end one for around $600.  I am not really happy with the
low-light performance of mine, and the colors seem dull.  My dad's (with
a larger lens) seems ok.  

Those cameras produce mp4 files that ffmpeg tells me are h264 video and 
aac audio.  I can edit them with avidemux on Squeeze.  Kdenlive seemed
hit-or-miss.  If I remember correctly, it choked on the larger files but
did ok with the smaller ones.  I experimented with Cinelerra a bit, but
I think I needed to convert the files to mjpeg or something similar
(very large files).

I haven't had any need to do a large-scale video project.  I mainly am
concerned with creating small clips to share with friends/family.  I cut
out the junk, resize, and convert to a less resource-intensive format
such as xvid, theora, or mpeg2.  For these purposes, avidemux works
fine.

-Rob


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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.04.2012 10:56, Miles Bader wrote:
 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com writes:
 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at
 all costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?
 
 Hmm, can't you just run it in compability mode or whatever it's
 called...?  [if you want to avoid gnome-shell... I don't see much
 obvious difference between gnome 2 and gnome 3 otherwise]

It's called as fallback mode.

 My impression was that you could somehow force that from the login
 screen (but I've never tried so I dunno).

Yes you can. Change GNOME to Classical Gnome in desktop environment
menu.

 -miles
 


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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.04.2012 13:56, Ellwood Blues wrote:
 2012/4/26 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com:
 Hello,
 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
 costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

 Thanks
 James


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Is it packaged in Debian yet? I cannot seem to find it with aptitude
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Re: Iceweasel mess with this mailing list

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:40:32 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 On 25.04.2012 20:34, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:25:19 -0700, Gary Roach wrote:
 
 I'm not sure where the problem lies, but all of the mail I am
 receiving from this mailing list is coming in as attachments to
 attachments to a blank email. This mailing list is different than the
 others to which I subcribe in that after the index all of the messages
 are attachments. All my other lists are working fine but have the
 messages included in the body of the original email.

 Any ideas?
 
 You wanted to mean Icedove (the MUA), right?
 
 Have you susbscribed to get digest instead regular e-mails?
 
 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/
 
 
 
 According to dispmua (package: xul-ext-dispmua), 

I didn't know about such a package existed (he, he... I wonder what icon 
displays with my posts ;-P)

 Gary is using Icedove. I didn't even notice that the subject reads
 Iceweasel before I replied.

Yup, that was my first thought when I read his message. 

It also happened to me (in the earlier days after I moved to Debian) that 
I couldn' associate the names of the Mozilla applications as I did not 
remember those Ice-thingies what corresponded to what exactly, I was 
more accustomed to the upstream names, Firefox and Thunderbird :-)

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Re: evolution mail

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 12:40:25 -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 04:51:02PM +, Camale�n wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:04:28 +0100, John Gennard wrote:
 
  Is there a way to delete evolution without deleting gnome.
 
 I think the problem arises when someone installs a gnome metapackage,
 that can trigger lots of (and unforeseen) packages and (unwanted)
 dependencies (it  hapenned to me in wheezy not so long ago with
 tracker).
 
 I did remove the involved gnome metapackages (gnome and
 gnome-desktop- environment) and I can breathe free again. Not sure if
 that will work for Evo, though.
 
 So what does that leave on your desktop?

It remains the same.

It can sound a bit odd but metapackages do not remove the packages they 
trigger when they're installed, it's a one-way relation. The applications 
are now handled/updated independently.

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Re: Iceweasel mess with this mailing list

2012-04-27 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.04.2012 17:05, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 20:40:32 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 On 25.04.2012 20:34, Camaleón wrote:
 On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 09:25:19 -0700, Gary Roach wrote:

 I'm not sure where the problem lies, but all of the mail I am
 receiving from this mailing list is coming in as attachments to
 attachments to a blank email. This mailing list is different than the
 others to which I subcribe in that after the index all of the messages
 are attachments. All my other lists are working fine but have the
 messages included in the body of the original email.

 Any ideas?

 You wanted to mean Icedove (the MUA), right?

 Have you susbscribed to get digest instead regular e-mails?

 http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/



 According to dispmua (package: xul-ext-dispmua), 
 
 I didn't know about such a package existed (he, he... I wonder what icon 
 displays with my posts ;-P)

It looks like news paper, which is upside down and reads PAN
(screenshot). When pointed, the popup says Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black).

 Gary is using Icedove. I didn't even notice that the subject reads
 Iceweasel before I replied.
 
 Yup, that was my first thought when I read his message. 
 
 It also happened to me (in the earlier days after I moved to Debian) that 
 I couldn' associate the names of the Mozilla applications as I did not 
 remember those Ice-thingies what corresponded to what exactly, I was 
 more accustomed to the upstream names, Firefox and Thunderbird :-)
 
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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:15:58 +, James Allsopp wrote:

 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
 costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

At all costs? Whether such possibility exists, the price will be very 
high ;-)

I would suggest against going that way. I'd better (in order of 
preference):

1/ Give gnome-shell a chance, it deserves it.
2/ Use the fallback (now classical) desktop. With higher doses of 
patience it can be very configurable and enjoyable but remember it won't 
last forever.
3/ Keep Squeeze until it's unsupported.
4/ Choose another DE/WM.

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grub2 loop back is not working

2012-04-27 Thread J. Bakshi

Dear list,

I have upgraded my grub installed in my pendrive from 1.95 to 1.99
And now the .iso images are not booting any more. oOne such configuration
is

`  `  `  `
 menuentry Ubuntu Live 11.10 64bit {

set root=(hd0,2)
loopback loop (hd0,2)/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso
linux (loop)/casper/vmlinuz boot=casper 
iso-scan/filename=/ubuntu-11.10-desktop-amd64.iso noeject noprompt --
initrd (loop)/casper/initrd.lz
}

` ` ` ` `

I have found only the entry having loop is causing the problem.
How can I use the configuration in grub2 then ?

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Re: debian 6.0.4 DVD #2

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 17:57:02 -0400, Joe Zien wrote:

 I installed debian 6.0.4 DVD #1 and it is working fine. Later I
 downloaded iso's #2 and 3.
 Tried to boot up #2 iso, won't boot up. How do I install 2 and 3?

Additional DVDs (or CD media) only add more packages that you can install 
when no Internet access is possible or your connection speed is very 
unrealiable/slow.

If that's your case, you will have to add the additional DVD as available 
source in you /etc/apt/sources.list file which is usually better to do 
it using a dedicated tool (apt-cdrom).

More information:

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.en.html

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Re: Problem with resolution on Radeon HD 7459 card (Squeeze)

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 10:07:40 +0900, Han Soo Chang wrote:

(...)

 Now, I get the desired resolution of 1920 x 1080.
 
 However, redrawing of windows is very slow, and I can't move a window
 smoothly, which is quite bothersome.

Mmm... as you are using gnome2 with metacity (i.e., a non-3D enabled 
desktop) I don't know what could you tweak to make it to run smoothly. 
Let's see what the X gurus have to say in this regard.

 gnome reports that my refresh rate is 60 Hz.

That's a normal value for TFT/LCD displays but very low for a CRT.

 I feel I am almost there, but I don't know if this problem is
 remediable. Perhaps, some additional lines in my xorg.conf file?

I bet yes, but I don't know ATI closed source driver enough to make any 
suggestion. By Googling around you can found some, though, but this is a 
trial/error try-out:

Under Modules section:

Load GLcore
Load glx
Load dri

Under Device section:

Option AccelMethod EXA
Option AccelDFS on
Option EXAVSync yes

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Dom

On 27/04/12 15:45, Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:15:58 +, James Allsopp wrote:


I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?


At all costs? Whether such possibility exists, the price will be very
high ;-)

I would suggest against going that way. I'd better (in order of
preference):

1/ Give gnome-shell a chance, it deserves it.


Doesn't work on my laptop.


2/ Use the fallback (now classical) desktop. With higher doses of
patience it can be very configurable and enjoyable but remember it won't
last forever.


Barely works on my laptop. Slow and some font corruption. Also other 
issues - something weird in Iceweasel last time I tried it.



3/ Keep Squeeze until it's unsupported.


Running Wheezy here.


4/ Choose another DE/WM.


This looks like my only chance, but I like Gnome2. Haven't found any 
other I really like *yet*.


I have pinned lots of packages to keep Gnome2 for now, but often clone 
my disk and allow everything to upgrade to see if Gnome3 is usuable yet. 
I don't hold out much hope for this as my video chipset is not well 
supported (Trident Microsystems CyberBlade XP4m32).


I'd just like to say that I'm not completely against gnome3, but it 
doesn't work for me (yet). I have to accept that with the hardware that 
I'm using I may have to move off to another desktop.


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Re: Iceweasel mess with this mailing list

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:39:07 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 On 27.04.2012 17:05, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 According to dispmua (package: xul-ext-dispmua),
 
 I didn't know about such a package existed (he, he... I wonder what
 icon displays with my posts ;-P)
 
 It looks like news paper, which is upside down and reads PAN
 (screenshot). When pointed, the popup says Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black).

Hey, thanks for the attachment. 

And it does it perfectly, that's Pan default icon :-)

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Re: Logging question

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 16:06:15 -0700, cletusjenkins wrote:

 I have a machine that is locking up every few days. It doesn't seem to
 be doing much when it happens, nor do I see anything in the syslog or
 messages files. Is there any way to enable extra logging to try to catch
 what is going wrong? Thanks.

The lock could come from different sources, either software based locks 
(X server, kernel soft/hard lock...) or hardware ones (a device failure, 
such as bad ram, micro over-heating, a problem with the power supply, a 
hard disk issue...).

I would start by discarding X first (of course, if you are not running an 
X server there's no need to try this ;-) ), so can you ssh to the 
machine when it gets freezed?

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread keith

Dom wrote:


I'd just like to say that I'm not completely against gnome3, but it 
doesn't work for me (yet). I have to accept that with the hardware 
that I'm using I may have to move off to another desktop.


Have a go with LXDE alongside your present setup,  see how you feel 
about it, no need to dump what you're used to yet.



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Re: dwww can't read some files

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 23:01:12 -0700, prad wrote:

 once in a while i get
 dwww will not allow you to read the file
 
 for instance, when i look for clusterdb by searching for postgresql and
 choosing the clusterdb link the error message is
 
 Access denied
 dwww will not allow you to read the file
 /usr/share/postgresql/8.4/man/man1/clusterdb.1.gz

(...)

Google returned this:

dwww: can't access postgresql-8.1 page for alter_table
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399366

Explanation on the why (although I'm not sure if that still remains true) 
at comment #10.

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:59:54 +0100, Dom wrote:

 On 27/04/12 15:45, Camaleón wrote:

(...)

 I would suggest against going that way. I'd better (in order of
 preference):

 1/ Give gnome-shell a chance, it deserves it.
 
 Doesn't work on my laptop.

Neither it does on my VM (I reported a bug at the VirtualBox site for 
this), such is life ;-(

 2/ Use the fallback (now classical) desktop. With higher doses of
 patience it can be very configurable and enjoyable but remember it
 won't last forever.
 
 Barely works on my laptop. Slow and some font corruption. Also other
 issues - something weird in Iceweasel last time I tried it.

You can report this, if you are interested enough to get it solved, of 
course.
 
 3/ Keep Squeeze until it's unsupported.
 
 Running Wheezy here.

I bet you're not the OP, right?

 4/ Choose another DE/WM.
 
 This looks like my only chance, but I like Gnome2. Haven't found any
 other I really like *yet*.

(...)

You keep searching, then.

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Ellwood Blues
012/4/27 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com:
 On 27.04.2012 13:56, Ellwood Blues wrote:
 2012/4/26 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com:
 Hello,
 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
 costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

 Thanks
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 Is it packaged in Debian yet? I cannot seem to find it with aptitude
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Nautilus-dropbox license (was: FYI: nautilus-dropbox works with Xfce's file manager, Thunar)

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Wed, 25 Apr 2012 13:21:01 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

 On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 1:15 PM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

 OTOH, do you know -by any chance- why is that package at the non-free
 section? I thought it was released under a GPL license :-?
 
 I guess because it downloads the Dropbox binary, which is not FOSS?

Mmm... let's dig a bit more into the current package status. I've found 
this:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=610300

But it's not clear whether the current client is freely distributable or 
not because it seems to be released using a GPL license :-?

Ah, okay, the real reason was commented here:

***
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=613788

* The package goes in non-free because the pictures are non-free (CC-SA-
ND) even if the code is GPL. Otherwise it could have gone into contrib 
since it needs the proprietary dropbox binary to work.
***

 (Sorry for sending private reply, that's Gmail's annoying default
 behavior.)

Don't worry, I didn't even notice because of a filter I've set that sends 
to the trash the duplicated posts :-P

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Re: Iceweasel mess with this mailing list

2012-04-27 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.04.2012 18:59, Camaleón wrote:
 On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 17:39:07 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 
 On 27.04.2012 17:05, Camaleón wrote:
 
 (...)
 
 According to dispmua (package: xul-ext-dispmua),

 I didn't know about such a package existed (he, he... I wonder what
 icon displays with my posts ;-P)

 It looks like news paper, which is upside down and reads PAN
 (screenshot). When pointed, the popup says Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black).
 
 Hey, thanks for the attachment. 
 
 And it does it perfectly, that's Pan default icon :-)
 
 Greetings,
 

You're welcome :)

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.04.2012 19:26, Ellwood Blues wrote:
 012/4/27 Mika Suomalainen mika.henrik.mai...@hotmail.com:
 On 27.04.2012 13:56, Ellwood Blues wrote:
 2012/4/26 James Allsopp jamesaalls...@googlemail.com:
 Hello,
 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
 costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

 Thanks
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Re: Prompting for settings on first boot of a pre-installed image.

2012-04-27 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 00:39:07 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:

 On Sun, Apr 22, 2012 at 03:05:41PM +, Camaleón wrote:
 It would be nice having such a tool (oem-config) here. If the OP is
 interested maybe he can suggest it to be packaged (ITP):
 
 That would be Request For Package (RFP)

Yes, that's correct:

ITP → a package you are interested in build yourself and maintain
RFP → a package you want someone to build and maintain

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Re: dwww can't read some files

2012-04-27 Thread prad
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 dwww: can't access postgresql-8.1 page for alter_table
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399366

 Explanation on the why (although I'm not sure if that still remains true) 
 at comment #10.

fantastic, camaleon! thanks very much!  it never occurred to me to think
this might be discussed as a bug (as robert suggests in the post), so i
never examined those referring to bugs.

i added:
DWWW_DOCPATH=/usr/share/postgresql/8.4/man/

and everything works beautifully!

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Debian Wheezy w/ Xen incorrect memory

2012-04-27 Thread Shane Johnson
Hello,
I just installed Wheezy on my laptop using debootstrap to test Xen
advancements from Squeeze.  Everything seems to be working great, except
the memory is reported incorrectly under the Xen enabled OS.  Normal boot
reports correct memory.  Included below are the details I think are
pertinent, if you need more information, please let me know.
Thanks for your help with this.

Shane


---
uname -a:
Linux sdj-lt 3.2.0-2-amd64 #1 SMP Sun Apr 15 16:47:38 UTC 2012 x86_64
GNU/Linux
---
free (Normal Debian boot):
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   5590240 1529525437288  0  10928  57548
-/+ buffers/cache:  844765505764
Swap:  4194300  04194300
---
free(Xen enabled):
 total   used   free sharedbuffers cached
Mem:   3788868 4372243351644  0  21760 258504
-/+ buffers/cache: 1569603631908
Swap:  4194300  04194300
---
/boot/grub/grub.cfg:(portions pertaining to Debian)
### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
submenu Xen 4.1-amd64 {
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64'
--class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os --class xen {
 insmod lvm
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
 set root='(vg-os)'
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 0601ad5f-3e78-4b6e-a06c-3f0af7519905
 echo 'Loading Xen 4.1-amd64 ...'
multiboot /boot/xen-4.1-amd64.gz placeholder
 echo 'Loading Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 ...'
module /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-amd64 placeholder root=/dev/mapper/vg-os ro
 quiet
 echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
module /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-amd64
}
menuentry 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Xen 4.1-amd64 and Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64
(recovery mode)' --class debian --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os
--class xen {
insmod lvm
 insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='(vg-os)'
 search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root
0601ad5f-3e78-4b6e-a06c-3f0af7519905
echo 'Loading Xen 4.1-amd64 ...'
 multiboot /boot/xen-4.1-amd64.gz placeholder
echo 'Loading Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64 ...'
 module /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2-amd64 placeholder root=/dev/mapper/vg-os ro
single
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
 module /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-amd64
}
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###
---


Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 17:26 +0100, Ellwood Blues wrote:
 http://mate-desktop.org/install/#debian

No experiences here, but I heard that it shouldn't be a good successor
of GNOME2.




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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:45 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:15:58 +, James Allsopp wrote:
 
  I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
  costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?

Yes, switch to Xfce4 or LXDE :p.

 At all costs? Whether such possibility exists, the price will be very 
 high ;-)

Agree!

 I would suggest against going that way. I'd better (in order of 
 preference):
 
 1/ Give gnome-shell a chance, it deserves it.

Disagree

 2/ Use the fallback (now classical) desktop. With higher doses of 
 patience it can be very configurable and enjoyable but remember it won't 
 last forever.

I experienced it as resource hungry.

Ralf

 3/ Keep Squeeze until it's unsupported.
 4/ Choose another DE/WM.
 
 Greetings,
 




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Re: dwww can't read some files

2012-04-27 Thread Indulekha
Prad wrote:
 Camaleón noela...@gmail.com writes:

 dwww: can't access postgresql-8.1 page for alter_table
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=399366

 Explanation on the why (although I'm not sure if that still remains true) 
 at comment #10.

 fantastic, camaleon! thanks very much!  it never occurred to me to think
 this might be discussed as a bug (as robert suggests in the post), so i
 never examined those referring to bugs.

 i added:
 DWWW_DOCPATH=/usr/share/postgresql/8.4/man/

 and everything works beautifully!


There's also /etc/manpath.config to consider...

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Mika Suomalainen
On 27.04.2012 21:05, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 On Fri, 2012-04-27 at 14:45 +, Camaleón wrote:
 On Thu, 26 Apr 2012 21:15:58 +, James Allsopp wrote:

 I want to update from Squeeze to Wheezy but want to avoid Gnome 3 at all
 costs, is there a way of doing this successfully?
 
 Yes, switch to Xfce4 or LXDE :p.
 
 At all costs? Whether such possibility exists, the price will be very 
 high ;-)
 
 Agree!
 
 I would suggest against going that way. I'd better (in order of 
 preference):

 1/ Give gnome-shell a chance, it deserves it.
 
 Disagree
 
 2/ Use the fallback (now classical) desktop. With higher doses of 
 patience it can be very configurable and enjoyable but remember it won't 
 last forever.
 
 I experienced it as resource hungry.
 
 Ralf
 
 3/ Keep Squeeze until it's unsupported.
 4/ Choose another DE/WM.

 Greetings,

 
 
 
 

I have now tried MATE and can confirm that it feels just like GNOME 2.
Screenshot:
http://marduk.touchlay.com/~mkaysi/screenshots/Workspace%202_013.jpeg
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direct IP,
http://85.114.128.135/~mkaysi/screenshots/Workspace%202_013.jpeg ).

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

2012-04-27 Thread Dom

On 27/04/12 17:20, Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 16:59:54 +0100, Dom wrote:


On 27/04/12 15:45, Camaleón wrote:


(...)


2/ Use the fallback (now classical) desktop. With higher doses of
patience it can be very configurable and enjoyable but remember it
won't last forever.


Barely works on my laptop. Slow and some font corruption. Also other
issues - something weird in Iceweasel last time I tried it.


You can report this, if you are interested enough to get it solved, of
course.


I'll do more investigations next time I clone my disk to try the latest 
Gnome 3 updates and report if I find anything specific.





3/ Keep Squeeze until it's unsupported.


Running Wheezy here.


I bet you're not the OP, right?


That's right.


4/ Choose another DE/WM.


This looks like my only chance, but I like Gnome2. Haven't found any
other I really like *yet*.


(...)

You keep searching, then.


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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-27 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Hello,

Muhammad Yousuf Khan a écrit :
 i run this command
 
 iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth1 -d 8.8.4.4 -j MASQUERADE
 
 my client computers able to ping 8.8.4.4
 
 but  when i iptables --flush -t nat  it clrear the table but my
 client can still ping the destination.

Do you mean that the client gets a reply ? Surprising.
As Joe wrote, the nat table uses connection tracking state that can be
viewed in /proc/net/nf_conntrack. But AFAIK and IME, a conntrack entry
created by a echo request is deleted after a corresponding echo reply is
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Re: iptables service with debian

2012-04-27 Thread Pascal Hambourg
Tom H a écrit :
 On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:05 AM, Joe j...@jretrading.com wrote:

 But the save and restore commands only give you the iptables rules, and
 you may want to do other network-related things when the 'service' is
 started, such as loading conntrack modules for unusual protocols.
 
 It's best to run an iptables script from /etc/network/if-pre-up.d/.

Only for the rules which are related to a specific interface. Ruleset
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Re: ..solved: two video cards on Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:25:28PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  Actually, I now need to figure out how to make the two screens act as
  one.  Currently, I can open applications on either screen but I can't,
  for instance, drag an application from one screen to the other.  I'm
  not sure if I can do that with separate video cards, though.
  
  -Rob
 
 ..well, play with the GUI menus, e.g. KDE's System Settings - 
 Display and Monitor - Multiple Monitors or Gnome's (AFAIR)
 System - Preferences - Display and Monitor etc as you 
 fool around with the plug-'n-play things 'n see what happens. ;o)
 
I've tried gnome-display-properties as well as lxrandr.  Both only
detect one monitor.  But it depends on which of my monitors I launch the
application from.  In other words, they only detect the monitor on which
the application is running.

So I guess I have something fundamentally wrong in my xorg.conf, or this
is just not possible with separate video cards.

Something even more interesting:  I set up fluxbox to show workspaces
1-4 on my primary monitor, and workspaces 5-6 on my secondary monitor.
Fluxbox lets me send a window to a different workspace, but I can't
send from workspace 1 to workspace 5 or 6.  I can only send to a
different workspace on the same monitor.

-Rob


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Re: ..solved: two video cards on Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Rob Owens
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 02:33:54PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote:
 Rob Owens wrote:
  Actually, I now need to figure out how to make the two screens act as
  one.  Currently, I can open applications on either screen but I can't,
  for instance, drag an application from one screen to the other.  I'm not
  sure if I can do that with separate video cards, though.
 
 In Squeeze the support for dual monitors changed.  It is no longer in
 the configuration file, although it can be optionally placed there.
 Now multiple monitor a userland operation using the xrandr interface.
 This is nice actually and allows useful scripted configurations.  Use
 the 'xrandr --query' to print attached device information and then use
 the device information to specify where the monitors are placed in the
 larger logical screen.
 
 I have the following in my init files.  I will avoid mentioning the
 file I am using because I doubt you are launching the same way and it
 would just cause confusion.  But this is how I turn on dual monitor
 support these days.
 
 if xrandr --query | grep -q HDMI2; then
   xrandr --auto --output HDMI2 --right-of HDMI1
 fi
 
Bob, have you tried this with two separate video cards?  I tried this
(with no xorg.conf) and it only sees my onboard video card when I run
xrandr --query.

If I create xorg.conf and get both monitors working, xrandr --query only
sees the monitor that I'm currently using (the monitor that the xterm is
displayed on, in which I'm running the xrandr command).

Thanks for the help so far.

-Rob


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Re: ..solved: two video cards on Squeeze

2012-04-27 Thread Arnt Karlsen
On Fri, 27 Apr 2012 21:01:44 -0400, Rob wrote in message 
20120428010144.ga4...@aurora.owens.net:

 On Wed, Apr 25, 2012 at 03:25:28PM +0200, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
   Actually, I now need to figure out how to make the two screens
   act as one.  Currently, I can open applications on either screen
   but I can't, for instance, drag an application from one screen to
   the other.  I'm not sure if I can do that with separate video
   cards, though.
   
   -Rob
  
  ..well, play with the GUI menus, e.g. KDE's System Settings - 
  Display and Monitor - Multiple Monitors or Gnome's (AFAIR)
  System - Preferences - Display and Monitor etc as you 
  fool around with the plug-'n-play things 'n see what happens. ;o)
  
 I've tried gnome-display-properties as well as lxrandr.  Both only
 detect one monitor.  But it depends on which of my monitors I launch
 the application from.  In other words, they only detect the monitor
 on which the application is running.
 
 So I guess I have something fundamentally wrong in my xorg.conf, or
 this is just not possible with separate video cards.

..ok, you have one screen on your mainboard display er, plug and
one in one of your 2 graphic card plugs.  Tried the other one of
the 2?
 
 Something even more interesting:  I set up fluxbox to show workspaces
 1-4 on my primary monitor, and workspaces 5-6 on my secondary monitor.
 Fluxbox lets me send a window to a different workspace, but I can't
 send from workspace 1 to workspace 5 or 6.  I can only send to a
 different workspace on the same monitor.

..ok, now, _that_ might warrant its own thread.

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Re: Backup backup backup -- sound problem SOLVED using a backup

2012-04-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:50:40AM +0100, Sian Mountbatten wrote:
 I then did the usual sid upgrade commands:
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
reboot
 After the reboot, I logged in and ran speaker-test:
speaker-test -tsine -c2
 Sound from both speakers!
played some music using Deadbeef (Audio player)
 
 So there you are: a backup saved my bacon.

It could easily have been the apt-get update followed by the apt-get
dist-upgrade which solved it?

Did you try speaker-test -tsine -c2 **BEFORE** upgrading but **AFTER**
restoring the backup?

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Re: Backup backup backup -- sound problem SOLVED using a backup

2012-04-27 Thread Sian Mountbatten

On 28/04/12 03:10, Chris Bannister wrote:

On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 10:50:40AM +0100, Sian Mountbatten wrote:

I then did the usual sid upgrade commands:
apt-get update
apt-get dist-upgrade
reboot
After the reboot, I logged in and ran speaker-test:
speaker-test -tsine -c2
Sound from both speakers!
played some music using Deadbeef (Audio player)

So there you are: a backup saved my bacon.


It could easily have been the apt-get update followed by the apt-get
dist-upgrade which solved it?

Did you try speaker-test -tsine -c2 **BEFORE** upgrading but **AFTER**
restoring the backup?


Yes.

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