Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

[keith]

On Mon, 30 Apr 2012 02:47:11 +0100
Sharon Kimble  wrote:

> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
> 
> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
> ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
> Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
> 

Try it with:-

genisoimage -o irishceltic.iso -R -J -l -v -V "Irish Celtic" -hide-rr-moved .


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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

[Kushal Kumaran]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 7:17 AM, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.
>
> The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
> ~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
> Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .
>
> I cant see anything in man genisoimage or its help file of any use for
> this problem, and would welcome any help that people can give.
>

Does enabling Rock Ridge extensions help?  Use the -r or -R option to
genisoimage.

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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

[Han Soo Chang]

Thanks for your help.

> If you run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" again, does it work now?
>

It gives me the same error.

> Otherwise:
>
> If you paste the URL:
> 
>
> into a web-browser, do you see the (rahter short) file [0] containing a
> hash-key?

Yes, I can see the page on my browser.

>
> If you try fetching it with wget:
> "wget
> http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc";
> does it produce an error message?

This is the message I get.
I am inside a corporate LAN with a proxy server whose address is ns14:8080.

$ LANG="en_US.utf8" wget -v
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
--2012-04-30 14:42:43--
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
Resolving ns14... 10.1.1.12
Connecting to ns14|10.1.1.12|:8080... connected.
Proxy request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
Length: 1273 (1.2K) [text/plain]
fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc: Permission denied

Cannot write to `fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc' (Permission denied).

Is this a problem related to my proxy server?

Greetings,
Han Soo


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Re: genisoimage and truncating of file names

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:47:11AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
> for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
> disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
> its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
> obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.

It probably doesn't like spaces in filenames.
I'd convert all the files to names without spaces. 
I'd also remove any single or double quotes in them.

I, myself, would be interested in a better way of doing this.

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Re: SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

[Chris Bannister]

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 02:17:28AM +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
> Split was indeed the answer, using it as ... split -b 4000m
> /home/boztu/irishceltic.iso .. and it splits the 18.9 gb file into
> 3.9 gb files which just need to be renamed as xaa.iso, or
> xab.iso/xac.iso, and then the  image is burnt using k3b.

Won't there be a problem with songs being split in the middle?

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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 08:27:03PM +0200, Martin Steigerwald wrote:
> Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the OS they 
> have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should work. But with 
> 512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you use MBR partitioning.
> 
> 3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software 
> (logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.
> 
> On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).

Sorry for jumping in here, but I can't figure out (from your post) which
command requires the additional options: -cu. Which manpage?

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Re: Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

[Johan Grönqvist]

2012-04-30 06:58, Han Soo Chang skrev:


$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

ERROR: wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
More information might be available at:
   http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer



Works for me.

If you run "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" again, does it work now?

Otherwise:

If you paste the URL: 
 
into a web-browser, do you see the (rahter short) file [0] containing a 
hash-key?


If that worked:

If you try fetching it with wget:
"wget 
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc";

does it produce an error message?

You can add -v to the command lines for both undate-flasplugin-nofree 
and wget to get verbose output that you can paste here, if you want to.


Regards

Johan


[0] the file is a text file, some 20 lines long, starting with 
"-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-" and ends with "-BEGIN PGP 
SIGNED MESSAGE-"



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Re: eglibc fails to build from source

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-04-30 04:01 +0200, bibop554 - wrote:

> I try to build eglibc from source but it fails. I'm on Debian squeeze 6.0.3
> I downloaded [eglibc_2.11.3.orig.tar.gz] and [eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff.gz] from
> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libc6
> Then:
> gzip -d eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff.gz
> tar xf eglibc_2.11.3.orig.tar.gz
> cd eglibc-2.11.3/
> patch < ../eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff  <- no errors

A simpler and less error-prone way to unpack the source would be to use
"dpkg-source -x eglibc_2.11.3-2.dsc".

> cd ../build/ <- build/ is
> an empty directory
> ../eglibc-2.11.3/configure --prefix=$(pwd)  <- no fatal error
> make -j 10
>
> The compilation fails with the following error:
> make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../manual/errno.texi', needed by
> `../sysdeps/gnu/errlist.c'.  Stop.
> make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
> make[2]: Leaving directory
> `/home/bibop554/compile_libc/eglibc-2.11.3/stdio-common'
> make[1]: *** [stdio-common/subdir_lib] Error 2
> make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bibop554/compile_libc/eglibc-2.11.3'
> make: *** [all] Error 2
>
> Not sure if i made an error somewhere or if it is a bug.

The Debian diff does not patch the source directly, but uses a patch
system named quilt.  You need to install the quilt package and then run
"make -f debian/rules patch".

The unpatched source does not build because Debian had to remove the
documentation, and the upstream build system is not prepared for that.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

[Johan Grönqvist]

2012-04-30 05:36, Dan Hitt skrev:

This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window
managers.
So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself,
so that it does not come from the packaging system.

What is the standard best way of setting this new window manager as yours?

It certainly won't exist in any of the lists on the login page, since
debian could not know about it.

So, i googled around, and there's this page
 http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/doc/debian/ch-X.html
which recommends just making an executable file
 /home/USER/.xsession
and putting in a sequence of commands there---which
could just be the path to your window manager.

I tried this, and . . . . it works.

But i feel a little uneasy about this, like this is not a best practice,
or some newer release of debian may break it.



My internet suggests to look in the /usr/share/xsessions folder, and 
create a new file there. The files there appear to be .desktop files, 
whose format should be defined be the internet somewhere (a 
freedesktop.org-related format, I believe).


I have not tested this.

Regards

Johan


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Can't install flashplugin.nonfree. ERROR: wget failed to download

[Han Soo Chang]

Hi,

I recently installed debian squeeze, but I can't see youtube videos on
iceweasel.

$ sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree

Above command ends with a following error message. (My sources.list has non-free
included)

ERROR: wget failed to download
http://people.debian.org/~bartm/flashplugin-nonfree/fp10.sha512.amd64.pgp.asc
More information might be available at:
  http://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer

I consulted the webpage, and googled, but could not get useful information.

I appreciate any help.

Thanks,
Han Soo


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 04:27:08PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> FWIW
> Not working: Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2 Compatible

What testing have you done?
i.e. Does it work in another computer? Does another type of PS/2 mouse
work in the "problem" computer?

Does gpm work in console mode:
a) With problem mouse?
b) With good mouse?

Once you have some idea where the problem is, then you can start fine
tuning your fault finding.

By using techniques like those, more often than not, you can solve the
problem yourself. 

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 07:07:30PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> So please help the OP to get it working. It's working for some of you,
> so if it isn't working for others, they spread FUD?

It is, when you say debian have dropped support for PS/2 keyboards and
mice.

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Re: eglibc fails to build from source

[Christofer C. Bell]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 9:01 PM, bibop554 -  wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I try to build eglibc from source but it fails. I'm on Debian squeeze 6.0.3
> I downloaded [eglibc_2.11.3.orig.tar.gz] and [eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff.gz]
> from http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libc6

Did you install the build dependencies?

$ apt-get build-dep eglibc

> Not sure if i made an error somewhere or if it is a bug.
> Any help would be appreciated. Feel free to ask more information

>From the apt-get man page:

build-dep causes apt-get to install/remove packages in an attempt to
satisfy the build dependencies for a source package.

Try again after doing that and see what happens.

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Re: changing window managers in debian 6.0.4

[Dan Hitt]

This is a sort of subquery to the question of how to change window
managers.  (And thanks again Johan, Camaleón, and Indulekha for your
earlier help.)

So the question is: supposing you compile a window manager yourself,
so that it does not come from the packaging system.

What is the standard best way of setting this new window manager as yours?

It certainly won't exist in any of the lists on the login page, since
debian could not know about it.

So, i googled around, and there's this page
http://www-rohan.sdsu.edu/doc/debian/ch-X.html
which recommends just making an executable file
/home/USER/.xsession
and putting in a sequence of commands there---which
could just be the path to your window manager.

I tried this, and . . . . it works.

But i feel a little uneasy about this, like this is not a best practice,
or some newer release of debian may break it.

(Note that the window manager i built is WindowMaker 0.95.2 which
is a few revisions ahead of the squeeze version.  And although it
certainly works, and i can launch applications, it doesn't look at all
like the squeeze version.  For example, it has a solid light purple
background, instead of the debian swirls.)

Thanks in advance for any info.

dan


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[Solved] Re: Problem with resolution on Radeon HD 7450 card (Squeeze)

[Han Soo Chang]

Thank you guys!

It seems that the problem is now solved.

I purged my dkms package, and re-installed dkms from squeeze backports
I purged fglrx-driver, fglrx-control packages, and re-installed them
from squeeze-backports.
Then, the fglrx.ko was successfully generated.
I rebooted the system, and the window is working fine.
Maybe I messed up the installation procedure somehow.
I probably needed to install dkms from the squeeze-backports before installing
fglrx-driver.

I put below my current xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log for reference.
I am not sure if I needed the tweak on chipID on my xorg.conf.
I will experimet later.

Again, thank you very much folks!  I apprecieate your helps very much.

--/etc/X11/xorg.conf---
Section "Device"
 Identifier "ATI"
 Driver "fglrx"
 Option "ChipID" "1002:6779"
 Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
 Option "AccelDFS" "on"
 Option "EXAVSync" "yes"
 Option "RenderAccel" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 Identifier "Default Screen"
 DefaultDepth 24
EndSection


-/var/log/Xorg.0.log---
[12.345]
X.Org X Server 1.10.4
Release Date: 2011-08-19
[12.345] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0
[12.345] Build Operating System: Linux 3.0.0-1-amd64 x86_64 Debian
[12.345] Current Operating System: Linux gabriel
3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64 #1 SMP Sat Feb 11 08:41:32 UTC 2012 x86_64
[12.345] Kernel command line:
BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-0.bpo.1-amd64
root=UUID=74c7f0bb-0873-4009-9b91-9147782376ad ro quiet
[12.345] Build Date: 28 August 2011  09:39:43PM
[12.345] xorg-server 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+1 (Cyril Brulebois )
[12.345] Current version of pixman: 0.16.4
[12.345]Before reporting problems, check http://wiki.x.org
to make sure that you have the latest version.
[12.345] Markers: (--) probed, (**) from config file, (==) default setting,
(++) from command line, (!!) notice, (II) informational,
(WW) warning, (EE) error, (NI) not implemented, (??) unknown.
[12.345] (==) Log file: "/var/log/Xorg.0.log", Time: Mon Apr 30
11:44:54 2012
[12.400] (==) Using config file: "/etc/X11/xorg.conf"
[12.400] (==) Using system config directory "/usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d"
[12.483] (==) No Layout section.  Using the first Screen section.
[12.484] (**) |-->Screen "Default Screen" (0)
[12.484] (**) |   |-->Monitor ""
[12.484] (==) No device specified for screen "Default Screen".
Using the first device section listed.
[12.484] (**) |   |-->Device "ATI"
[12.484] (==) No monitor specified for screen "Default Screen".
Using a default monitor configuration.
[12.484] (==) Automatically adding devices
[12.484] (==) Automatically enabling devices
[12.517] (WW) The directory "/usr/share/fonts/X11/cyrillic" does not exist.
[12.517]Entry deleted from font path.
[12.550] (==) FontPath set to:
/usr/share/fonts/X11/misc,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi/:unscaled,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/Type1,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/100dpi,
/usr/share/fonts/X11/75dpi,
/var/lib/defoma/x-ttcidfont-conf.d/dirs/TrueType,
built-ins
[12.550] (==) ModulePath set to "/usr/lib/xorg/modules"
[12.550] (II) The server relies on udev to provide the list of
input devices.
If no devices become available, reconfigure udev or disable 
AutoAddDevices.
[12.550] (II) Loader magic: 0x7d3ae0
[12.550] (II) Module ABI versions:
[12.550]X.Org ANSI C Emulation: 0.4
[12.550]X.Org Video Driver: 10.0
[12.550]X.Org XInput driver : 12.2
[12.550]X.Org Server Extension : 5.0
[12.551] (--) PCI:*(0:1:0:0) 1002:677b:1462:2496 rev 0, Mem @
0xc000/268435456, 0xfe62/131072, I/O @ 0xe000/256, BIOS @
0x/131072
[12.551] (II) Open ACPI successful (/var/run/acpid.socket)
[12.551] (II) LoadModule: "extmod"
[12.566] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libextmod.so
[12.617] (II) Module extmod: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[12.617]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
[12.617]Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[12.617]ABI class: X.Org Server Extension, version 5.0
[12.617] (II) Loading extension SELinux
[12.617] (II) Loading extension MIT-SCREEN-SAVER
[12.617] (II) Loading extension XFree86-VidModeExtension
[12.617] (II) Loading extension XFree86-DGA
[12.617] (II) Loading extension DPMS
[12.617] (II) Loading extension XVideo
[12.617] (II) Loading extension XVideo-MotionCompensation
[12.617] (II) Loading extension X-Resource
[12.617] (II) LoadModule: "dbe"
[12.618] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libdbe.so
[12.636] (II) Module dbe: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[12.636]compiled for 1.10.4, module version = 1.0.0
[12.636]Module class: X.Org Server Extension
[ 

Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Miles Bader]

Sven Joachim  writes:
>> No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a
>> long time ago.
>
> Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse
> continue to work as they did in the past 14 years.

Hmm... at work I'm using the same PS/2 keyboard I've been using for
the past 14 years... with an up-to-date (sid) version of Debian.
Seems to work well.

-miles

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Re: Problem with resolution on Radeon HD 7459 card (Squeeze)

[Han Soo Chang]

Thanks for your advice.

2012/4/28, Camaleón :

> Let's don't make guesses ;-) better send/copy your current "/etc/X11/
> xorg.conf" file so we can see what you have added and how it looks like
> now.
>
Here is my /etc/X11/xorg.conf

Section "Device"
 Identifier "ATI"
 Driver "fglrx"
 Option "ChipID" "1002:6779"
 Option "MigrationHeuristic" "greedy"
 Option "AccelDFS" "on"
 Option "EXAVSync" "yes"
 Option "RenderAccel" "true"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
 Identifier "Default Screen"
 DefaultDepth 24
EndSection

> Just to discard something obvious, do a search for the module
> ("locate fglrx.ko") and check if it's indeed there, although I don't
> think that's the problem, as the module should have been compiled
> alongside with the rest of the files just fine. It can be also a bug
> in the driver, I've seen some reports by Googling around, for instance:
>
locate fglrx.ko returns nothing.  There does not seem to be fglrx.ko.
I am quite ignorant about how these kernel and kernel modules work.
Did I mess up something when I tried to install fglrx-driver from
squeeze backports?
I just did the following command
$ sudo apt-get -t squeeze-backports install fglrx-driver fglrx-control

Han Soo


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eglibc fails to build from source

[bibop554 -]

Hi all,

I try to build eglibc from source but it fails. I'm on Debian squeeze 6.0.3
I downloaded [eglibc_2.11.3.orig.tar.gz] and [eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff.gz] from
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/libc6
Then:
gzip -d eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff.gz
tar xf eglibc_2.11.3.orig.tar.gz
cd eglibc-2.11.3/
patch < ../eglibc_2.11.3-2.diff  <- no errors
cd ../build/ <- build/ is
an empty directory
../eglibc-2.11.3/configure --prefix=$(pwd)  <- no fatal error
make -j 10

The compilation fails with the following error:
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `../manual/errno.texi', needed by
`../sysdeps/gnu/errlist.c'.  Stop.
make[2]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[2]: Leaving directory
`/home/bibop554/compile_libc/eglibc-2.11.3/stdio-common'
make[1]: *** [stdio-common/subdir_lib] Error 2
make[1]: Leaving directory `/home/bibop554/compile_libc/eglibc-2.11.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

Not sure if i made an error somewhere or if it is a bug.
Any help would be appreciated. Feel free to ask more information

Thanks

genisoimage and truncating of file names

[Sharon Kimble]

I am creating an iso with genisoimage prepatory to burning it to dvd
for backing up of my music collection, and on checking the resulting
disc I'm finding that the mp3 name is truncated to the first word of
its title. I feel that this is happening with genisoimage and would
obvioulsy like to have the full mp3 title.

The command to genisoimage is . genisoimage -o
~/irishceltic.iso /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\
Version\ 2/ .. which creates the file irishceltic.iso .

I cant see anything in man genisoimage or its help file of any use for
this problem, and would welcome any help that people can give.

Thanks
Sharon.
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SOLVED Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

[Sharon Kimble]

On 29/04/2012, Camaleón  wrote:
> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:13:37 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:
>
>> i have just created an iso of some of my music collection so that i can
>> play them off the DVD, delete them off the hard drive and free up more
>> space for new music, that’s the plan anyhow.
>>
>> The command i used was . genisoimage -o ~/irishceltic.iso
>> /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\ Version\ 2/ 
>> and it created irishceltic.iso which is 18.4 gbs big.
>>
>> I now want to burn this to DVD's but brassero wont do multiple DVD from
>> one source, and so far, i havne't been able to do it from k3b.
>>
>> How do I do it in either brassero or k3b please? Or can it be done from
>> the command line please?
>
> I don't know about the burning program features but I bet you can use
> "split" command (to make chunks of data that fit in one DVD) and
> "cat" (if you want to restore the full image afterwards) for the task.
>
> Greeting
>
Split was indeed the answer, using it as ... split -b 4000m
/home/boztu/irishceltic.iso .. and it splits the 18.9 gb file into
3.9 gb files which just need to be renamed as xaa.iso, or
xab.iso/xac.iso, and then the  image is burnt using k3b.

Thanks to all
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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[Charles Kroeger]

Brian pointed out:

> Incidentally, shorewall has had 'startup=0' since Lenny at least. You
> probably forgot that you must have altered the default sometime in the
> past and didn't think the README in /usr/share/doc worth a glance.
> Also, /etc/default/shorewall is a conffile so if indeed the upgrade
> replaced it you could be looking at a bug.

It might be a bug Brian, in /etc/shorewall.conf there is, at the top of this 
file an
option:

###
#
#  Shorewall Version 4 -- /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf
#
#  For information about the settings in this file, type "man shorewall.conf"
#
#  Manpage also online at http://www.shorewall.net/manpages/shorewall.conf.html
###
#  S T A R T U P   E N A B L E D
###

STARTUP_ENABLED=Yes

in this new version of the Documents I failed to read the part about the 
importance
of editing the /etc/default/shorewall file so I wrote the list for the answer, 
and
learned something new.

As far as the latest /doc/shorewall-doc/html say, there is nothing about making
sure the /etc/default/shorewall file is squared with
the /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf file that I saw.

In /doc/shorewall-core there's nothing about this
In /doc/shorewall-doc/ there are subfolders of HTML and HTML/images and
manpages in great abundance but no README.
In /usr/share/shorewall there are subfolders of Shorewall and config files but 
even
there alas no README or mention of the etc/default/shorewall file.
I might add that I also use shorewall-init and the /doc/shorewall-init of which
resides no mention of this necessary file, /etc/default/shorewall.

If you use shorewall Brian, do tell me where this information resides in the
new 4.5.2.2 version of the documentation.

If this file (/etc/default/shorewall) existed in the previous version it must 
have
been created without my knowing as I never saw it before.
  
As far as being 'rude' well I don't know. The message from hugo AKA hvw59601 
could
have gone either way, hugo didn't elaborate beyond his diplomatic statement 
that I
construed to be cryptic in nature suggesting a less than subtle slight and
considering the people who post to this list I took no chances but nonetheless
hoped for a further dialog, which I believe has not been forthcoming. (from 
hugo)

By correcting hugo's spelling I hoped to help that person improve their 
spelling.
Why do you think that was 'definitely rude"? Don't you like to be corrected when
you're wrong Brian?

Lastly, if I've completely misunderstood hugo's question as the bleeding obvious
and indeed was not intended as some cuteness by that person, I would just say 
YES,
hugo I do run shorewall, what's it to you pal?
 
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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[Brian]

On Sun 29 Apr 2012 at 15:30:28 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:20:02 +0200
> hvw59601  wrote:
> 
> > Camaleón wrote:
> > > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> > > 
> > >> After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
> > >> configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the command
> > >> line: e.g. #shorewall start.
> > >>
> > >> I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
> > >> etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf
> > >>
> > >> What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
> > >> itself during the boot-up?
> > > 
> > > Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the "startup" 
> > > variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.
> > > 
> > 
> > Impresive. Do you run shorewall?
> > 
> > Hugo
> > 
> > 
> 
> Yes I do..what's it to you . . . .

That comes over as rude. Perhaps you didn't mean to make it sound that
way and failed to realise the question was not really directed at you?


> . . . .(that's impressive by the way)

That's definitely rude. You are in the wrong place for spelling flames.

Incidentally, shorewall has had 'startup=0' since Lenny at least. You
probably forgot that you must have altered the default sometime in the
past and didn't think the README in /usr/share/doc worth a glance.
Also, /etc/default/shorewall is a conffile so if indeed the upgrade
replaced it you could be looking at a bug.


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Re: Bug in logwatch? (not all archives are checked and --logdir is partially ignored).

[Maarten Derickx]

2012/4/29 Maarten Derickx 

>
> A closer inspection of the logfiles I cared about revealed that there where 
> also related errors. I made a patch with all the changes and posted it at 
> http://pastebin.com/6vALKDYN . What is the procedure for getting these fixes 
> in debian?
>
>
> Thanks,
> Maarten
>
>
I filed the bugs and they have numbers: #670877 and #670880 respectively.

Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[Charles Kroeger]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 22:20:02 +0200
hvw59601  wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
> > On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> > 
> >> After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
> >> configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the command
> >> line: e.g. #shorewall start.
> >>
> >> I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
> >> etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf
> >>
> >> What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
> >> itself during the boot-up?
> > 
> > Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the "startup" 
> > variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.
> > 
> 
> Impresive. Do you run shorewall?
> 
> Hugo
> 
> 

Yes I do..what's it to you (that's impressive by the way)


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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[Charles Kroeger]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 19:30:02 +0200
Camaleón  wrote:

> On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:
> 
> > After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
> > configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the command
> > line: e.g. #shorewall start.
> > 
> > I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
> > etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf
> > 
> > What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
> > itself during the boot-up?
> 
> Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the "startup" 
> variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.
> 
> Greetings,
> 

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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[hvw59601]

Camaleón wrote:

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:


After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the command
line: e.g. #shorewall start.

I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf

What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
itself during the boot-up?


Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the "startup" 
variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.




Impresive. Do you run shorewall?

Hugo


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Re: Apache2 Not starting on reboot

[Bob Proulx]

John W. Foster wrote:
> My last upgrade of Debian stable on my production server produced an
> error that is causing issues. Apache2 is not automatically restarting as
> it should when the system is rebooted.

The other suggestions were good.  Additionally I would want to see if
there are errors from 'insserv' which creates the symlinks used for
the concurrent boot system.  And I would want to see what symlinks
exist before and after.

  $ find /etc/rc?.d -name '*apache2'
  /etc/rc0.d/K02apache2
  /etc/rc1.d/K02apache2
  /etc/rc2.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc3.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc4.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc5.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc6.d/K02apache2

You are probably missing one of the 'S*apache2 symlinks'.  The exact
number isn't important and will be different on different systems due
to 'insserv' creating them based upon the current system topography.

  # insserv -v
  insserv: creating .depend.boot
  insserv: creating .depend.start
  insserv: creating .depend.stop

That is from a fresh installation system.  You may have other output.
In particular if there are errors then you will see them there.  If
there is an error then you would want to know about it and repair it.

It could be that for some reason a symlink was removed from your
system.  If so then the tools will assume that you did it
intentionally and will preserve that change until you change it
again.  That isn't an error.  It would be an error to do otherwise.

> Webmin shows that the Apache server is setup to start on bootup.

If you are using webmin I know that it can make configuration changes.
It could be that a webmin command (perhaps by slip of the mouse) made
this as an intentional configuration change.  Intentional even if by
mouse slip and not by actual intent but the result would be same.

To reset everything to package defaults you can remove all of the
rc?.d symlinks and then install them again.

  $ find /etc/rc?.d -name '*apache2'
  /etc/rc0.d/K02apache2
  /etc/rc1.d/K02apache2
  /etc/rc2.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc3.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc4.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc5.d/S27apache2
  /etc/rc6.d/K02apache2

Then to remove them:

  # find /etc/rc?.d -name '*apache2' -delete

Then to install them again all three of these do the same thing but in
different ways.  Pick one of them.  Use whichever you feel most
comfortable with doing.

  1.
# update-rc.d apache2 defaults 91 09
update-rc.d: using dependency based boot sequencing

  2.
# dpkg-reconfigure apache2.2-common

  3.
# apt-get install --reinstall apache2.2-common

Then verify that the symlinks are on your system.

  $ find /etc/rc?.d -name '*apache2'

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Re: Bug in logwatch? (not all archives are checked and --logdir is partially ignored).

[Bob Proulx]

Maarten Derickx wrote:
> A closer inspection of the logfiles I cared about revealed that there
> where also related errors. I made a patch with all the changes and
> posted it at http://pastebin.com/6vALKDYN . What is the procedure for
> getting these fixes in debian?

Report it as a bug.  Using 'reportbug' is typical but it can also be
done by simple email.

Here is the documentation page for how to submit a bug to Debian:

  http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting

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Re: Bug in logwatch? (not all archives are checked and --logdir is partially ignored).

[Maarten Derickx]

> Look at one of the config files that manages sshd (secure.conf), I think
> there can be a rule pattern definition error there.
>
> Greetings,
>
> --
> Camaleón

Thanks. There where no config files in /etc/ (only a directory
structure). But indeed there was a mistake in the file in
/usr/share/logwatch/default.conf/logfiles/secure.conf

There was a rule wich said:

Archive = authlog.*

But this line should read:

Archive = auth.log.*

A closer inspection of the logfiles I cared about revealed that there
where also related errors. I made a patch with all the changes and
posted it at http://pastebin.com/6vALKDYN . What is the procedure for
getting these fixes in debian?

Thanks,
Maarten

Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Dienstag, 24. April 2012 schrieb Ellwood Blues:
> 2012/4/21 Sian Mountbatten :
> > I am going to buy a big USB hard drive to backup films, music and
> > photos. In fact, I might backup the system (at least, the list of
> > packages installed).
> > 
> > Anybody out there tried a 2TB USB hard drive? What did you use as
> > filing system. I am intending to use ext4. Any comments?
>
> If you want to be happy and trouble-free, try to avoid «Advanced
> Format» disks. I have 2TB disks and 1.5TB too that work perfectly but
> I've made the mistake to buy a 3TB WD Caviar Green («Advanced Format»)
> which I can only use on Windows as a 3TB disk, Linux only detects
> about 780MB if I remember well. Try to not make the same mistake.

Hmmm, I´d avoid those with 4 KB hardware sectors that lie to the OS they 
have 512 byte sectors. Although I think even those should work. But with 
512 byte sectors you have a 2 TB limit when you use MBR partitioning.

3 TB disks with 4 KB sectors both hardware (physical) and software 
(logical) should just work, provided the Linux is new enough.

On Squeeze use -cu as additional options (see manpage).

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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Samstag, 21. April 2012 schrieb tv.deb...@googlemail.com:
> On 21/04/2012 18:36, Sian Mountbatten wrote:
> > I am going to buy a big USB hard drive to backup films, music and
> > photos. In fact, I might backup the system (at least, the list of
> > packages installed).
> > 
> > Anybody out there tried a 2TB USB hard drive? What did you use as
> > filing system. I am intending to use ext4. Any comments?
> 
> Hi, I use seagate's ST2000DL003-9VT1 (it's some kind of "eco" drive,
> but  still fast) for that purpose, in raid1. No complains. I have had
> disastrous experiences with WD 2TB drives (those "green" monstrosity).
> I use gpt partition table, with LUKS and RAID without trouble.

Two of them with 1,5 TB still running as RAID 1 on the workstation at 
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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Dienstag, 24. April 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
> > While I wait for the new 2 TB HDD, I am copying data across my home
> > LAN to my laptop which has a 120 GB HDD. I was using the WiFi
> > network provided by the computer consultants downstairs: it gave me
> > 1.2 MB/s transfer rate. When I succeeded in getting the Ethernet
> > working, I got 9 MB/s. I've now checked the ethernet NICs at both
> > ends and they are both Gigabit devices. So I've ordered a 5m Cat5e
> > ethernet cable from Amazon which should give me 120 MB/s transfer
> > rate. That would certainly make it convenient for security backups.
> 
> Yes, and that's why my primary backup is directly attached to one of
> the  SATA ports of the motherboard: speed between SATA buses is good
> enough when using a powerful system. The average size of my /home
> backup is now at ~10 GiB and I always do full (not incremental nor
> differential) backups becasue 10 GiB is still a manageable size
> (although for servers and workstations I do differential backups).

I use esata disks for my laptop backups. Together with 
Cardbus-/Expresscard esata controllers, even for the ThinkPad T520 cause 
its Intel only version didn´t sport an esata connector.

SATA flies. A bus where practically possible speeds come quite close to the 
theoretic maximum. Unlike USB 2 and currently it seems also USB 3.

Initial rsync based backup of 300 GB Intel SSD 320 to new 2 TB Hitachi 
harddisk has been 1 hour. For about 200 GiB of data, at least one million 
inodes, including a virtual server on the internet and the Debian on the 
USB-Stick in my ASUS WL-500g Premium DSL router.

Current times are usually less than 10 minutes for differential backups.

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Re: 2TB USB hard drive for backing up

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Dienstag, 24. April 2012 schrieb Camaleón:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2012 13:20:05 +0200, Alberto Fuentes wrote:
> > On 21/04/12 19:34, Camaleón wrote:
> >> I'm against big partitions (500 GiB is the limit I have auto-imposed
> >> to my systems) so I would make 4 slices and spread the data over
> >> them. Anyway, I don't think you are going to have any problem to
> >> manage a single partition of 2 TiB, even more if you plain to store
> >> plain data (not a bootable system) there.
> > 
> > I have ext4 in one partition of 1.8 Tb or so. It takes about 40 min
> > to chkfs... just something to bear in mind...
> 
> Good point :-)
> 
> As an aside note, I've been using ReiserFS in all of my linux boxes (in
> both, servers and workstations) for the "/" partition and I never had
> to face the long waits at booting till the fsck ends. I know that
> ReiserFS (v3) is not actively developed (just security patches) and
> performs better for small files but I'm considering in moving ext3 to
> XFS or another mature file system (JFS) because the annoying and
> absurdly long time fsck takes.

Reiserfs has some more drawbacks:

- long mount times on large volumes

- doesn´t distinguish between different filesystems on fsck like
  - loopback file with reiserfs on reiserfs
  - vm image file with reiserfs on reiserfs

Especially the latter is a no-go for me, cause an fsck would mix up the 
several reiserfs filesstems.

XFS might also have long file check times.

fsck times depend more on the number of inodes than on the size of the 
filesystem. They also depend on the version of the check tool.

XFS develovers tuned xfs_repair heavily regarding speed and memory usage. 
And I seem to recall some optimizations for Ext4 as well, like unitialized 
block groups (bguninit or something lile that in tunefs -l).

My Ext4 fsck times on large volumes are quite good. A few minutes usually. 
Even on the backup drive which holds at least 1 million inodes in one 
logical volume.

> > Its very convenient to have a large sack to toss the stuff, but it
> > has its own set of drawbacks :)
> 
> Yes, and I'm against partitioning too much but considering the big
> sizes of the actual hard disks it has become a must, also to minimize
> a filesystem corruption in a partition that can affect the whole data.

I use LVM quite a lot, but I am a bit annoyed by having to vgchange -ay 
after inserting and vgchange -an before removal. I like to see a removable 
flag for LVs that lessens the locking restrictions that are important in 
certain enterprise setups, so that I can have an LVM be scanned 
automatically and do not need to run vgchange.

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Re: Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:48:58 -0500, Charles Kroeger wrote:

> After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous
> configuration files, Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the command
> line: e.g. #shorewall start.
> 
> I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the
> etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf
> 
> What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting
> itself during the boot-up?

Mmm, this is done from "/etc/default/shorewall" by editing the "startup" 
variable, that you have to set to "1" as it says.

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 15:38 +0100, Lisi wrote:
> On Sunday 29 April 2012 15:08:18 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > PS: Instead of calling me a troll, simply help the OP you troll.
> 
> Where did Sven troll the OP?  Perhaps you could post a copy of the relevant 
> email, since I have received no trolling of anyone from Sven.
> 
> Lisi

He called me a troll ;). He didn't help the OP.


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Re: Wheezy xcp-xapi /usr/share/doc/xcp-xapi/README.Debian xe Error: Connection refused (calling connect )

[David Christensen]

On 04/29/2012 06:58 AM, Camaleón wrote:

Thanks for the reply.  :-)



Shouldn't that command be "xe -help" or "xe --help"? :-?


That's what I thought on the first try.  'man xe' indicates help is a 
command, not an option.




I've never used that package but I would ensure to carefully follow the
steps given at the file you mentioned (README:Debian), it seems to be
somehow complicated so maybe you just missed or overlooked something
(the above error message seems pointing to a problem coming from the
network interface settings).
As suggested by the other README file, you can try to reach the devels
at IRC in #xen-api channel.


Yes, this stuff is new/ tricky.  I've moved the thread to the Xen-API 
mailing list, and it looks like we're on the right track:


http://lists.xen.org/archives/html/xen-api/2012-04/msg00046.html


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Mon, 2012-04-30 at 02:08 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:59:38PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> > > Or is my MoBo giving up?
> 
> tl;dr
> 
> > No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
> > time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard
> > still does work.
> 
> Bollocks! My mouse and keyboard work fine.
> 
> Stop spreading FUD!
> 

So please help the OP to get it working. It's working for some of you,
so if it isn't working for others, they spread FUD?


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Shorewall 4.5.2.2 startup question

[Charles Kroeger]

After the recent Shorewall upgrade that replaced the previous configuration 
files,
Shorewall now only starts 'manually' at the command line: e.g. #shorewall start.

I can't find where this problem can be corrected in the 
etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf

What changed in the upgrade that now prevents Shorewall from starting itself 
during
the boot-up?

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Re: cd number

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:01:26 -0400
Daniel Sarrazin  wrote:

Hello Daniel,

> There is 52cd and I downloaded 4. Do I need to install all 52cd to
> have a secure distribution?

Depends what you mean by "secure".  If you don't wish to connect to the
internet to install packages, then you may need more disks than you
already have.  However, the further away from disk #1 you get, the less
popular are the packages on the disk.

TBH, just connecting to the 'net to install and or update software is a
lot less hassle as the software packages at the Debian repos are all
key-signed to reduce the likelihood of tampering.

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Re: cd number

[keith]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:01:26 -0400
Daniel Sarrazin  wrote:

> 
> There is 52cd and I downloaded 4. Do I need to install all 52cd to have a 
> secure distribution?
> 
> Daniel Sarrazin
> 
No, the first CD is all that is needed to install a normal system. Other CD's 
contain additional installable software, if you need it.
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Re: cd number

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 12:01:26 -0400, Daniel Sarrazin wrote:

(no html, please, thanks)

> There is 52cd and I downloaded 4. Do I need to install all 52cd to have
> a secure distribution?

Security is not determined by a number :-)

http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/index.en.html#which-cd

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Re: cd number

[Mika Suomalainen]

On 29.04.2012 19:01, Daniel Sarrazin wrote:
> There is 52cd and I downloaded 4. Do I need to install all 52cd to have
> a secure distribution?
> 
> Daniel Sarrazin

As the download page reads, you only need the CD 1 to install Debian.

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[Daniel Sarrazin]

There is 52cd and I downloaded 4. Do I need to install all 52cd to have a 
secure distribution?

Daniel Sarrazin
  

Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 11:12:20 +, Camaleón wrote:

> On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:47:25 +0100, Ellwood Blues wrote:
> 
>> So you will be loyal but Gnome won't?
> 
> No, I did not say -by no means- that. Maybe you missed the "until" and
> the rest of the argument.
> 
> When I feel that GNOME has completely lost the north and prevents me
> from having a deskotp like I want (which is still not the case, and MATE
  
(...)

That should be "Cinnamon". 

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Re: Bug in logwatch? (not all archives are checked and --logdir is partially ignored).

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:39:08 +0200, Maarten Derickx wrote:

(...)

→ About the problem of analyzing from the archive

> The strange thing is that when I do:
> 
> logwatch --service sshd --archives
> 
> I get only 3 logins 2 from "mderickx" and 1 from "sageslave". (see
> Output 1 below)

(...)

> The strange thing is that if I now do:
> 
> root@md:/var/log# gzip auth.log.1
> 
> and then
> 
> logwatch --service sshd --archives
> 
> then I do get the expected amount of 10 logins for the user mderickx in
> the logwatch output. So it seems that in contrast to the what the
> documentation suggests the uncompressed archive /var/log/auth.log.1 is
> not checked!

Look at one of the config files that manages sshd (secure.conf), I think 
there can be a rule pattern definition error there. 

Logwatch seems to be configured to read either from "/var/log/
auth.log" (as the actual file) or "/var/log/auth.log.*.gz" files (for the 
archives) but does not handle non "*.gz" files with a different 
filename :-?

→ About the problem of setting a different directory for the logs

(...)

I leave this for others to debug :-P

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 18:27 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> Ralf Mardorf  writes:

>  > If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
>  > more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer
>  > usage.
> >
>  > For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue.
> >
> 
> Having to use non-Linux OSes at office confirms my suspicion that
> GNU/Linux based distros are waay more user friendly. 

Agree! AFAIK there's no other OS capable of hard real-time for audio,
this btw. is also an issue for Linux but possible.

FWIW
Not working: Trekker Wheel Mouse 2.0A PS/2 Compatible
Working: Keyboard KWD-205


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-04-29 16:22 +0200, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:

> Thanks to guys who confirmed that support for PS/2 is not dropped. 
>
> So, my question - which package is likely to cause the problem? 

I don't really see anything suspicious in your list.  Can you please
send the output of "reportbug --template xserver-xorg" ?  Preferably
with the PS/2 keyboard and mouse attached.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Mythtv problem with versions

[Rob Owens]

On Tue, Apr 17, 2012 at 07:24:07PM +0100, Alan Chandler wrote:
> I have a server running Squeeze.  It has mythtv-backend to record
> all my TV programs.
> 
> On my desktop I run Sid.  After an update over the weekend, my
> Mythtv Frontend will no longer connect to my backend, complaining
> that
> 
> "This version of MythTV requires an updated database. (schema is 35
> versions behind)
> 
> Please run mythtv-setup or mythbackend to update your database".
> 
> I suspect that I need to somehow update the backend.  But with that
> being Squeeze, that could be rather difficult.
> 
> Anyone got any suggestions of how to deal wth this.
> 
> [Mythweb will stream the TV. and that almost works, but I do tend to
> want to save programs mid way through or want to rapidly skip
> forward and backward.  The media play that is launched by the
> browser doesn't seem to all any of this.]
> 
I confirmed with the debian-multimedia maintainer that the testing
version of MythTV would always be compatible with the stable version.  I
am running a stable backend, and a testing frontend.  

I don't think that the unstable version is necessarily compatible with 
the stable version.  In fact, I recall recently on the debian-multimedia
mailing list that there was a new version in unstable.  So I suspect
what happened is that your frontend got updated, and it refused to
communicate with your stable backend, because the databases have
different schemas.

-Rob


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Re: ethernet device assignments

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 29/04/12 15:18, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:

Tony van der Hoff  writes:

  >  In trying to track down some networking problems, I swapped the
  >  ethernet adapter in my server. Since re-booting, it has been assigned
  >  the moniker eth2 rather than eth1 (the motherbaord device is eth0).



  >  So, how do I reset the second adapter to become eth1 again?

Look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

Create a similar file, with the mac id of the card you want a specific
device id as ATTR(address ... etc and NAME="eth1"

Before you do that -- chances are you have already another device
configured to run as eth1, so look at the other files / other lines in
that file and see which device is configured to work as eth1.


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Andreas Rönnquist]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:59:38 +0200
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Or is my MoBo giving up?
> 
> No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a
> long time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the
> keyboard still does work.
> 
> I've got an outdated Suse, some outdated Ubuntu, AVLinux aka Debian
> stable, current Ubuntu and current Arch installed.
> 
> If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
> more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer
> usage.
> 
> For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 

I have no problems with my PS/2 keyboard on neither stable or testing -
and if there is, one can always get one of these to extend the life of
it:

http://www.clickykeyboards.com/index.cfm/fa/items.main/parentcat/11298/subcatid/0/id/124184

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Lisi]

On Sunday 29 April 2012 15:08:18 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> PS: Instead of calling me a troll, simply help the OP you troll.

Where did Sven troll the OP?  Perhaps you could post a copy of the relevant 
email, since I have received no trolling of anyone from Sven.

Lisi


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Lisi]

On Sunday 29 April 2012 15:08:18 Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> Some hardware still does work, as I said, my keyboard still is ok.

So your PS/2 mouse is dead.  Hardly unheard of.

Lisi


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 13:59:38 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Or is my MoBo giving up?
> 
> No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
> time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard
> still does work.

I must be doing some kind of mystic sorcery to make my PS/2 keyboard and 
my USB mouse (attached to an USB to PS/2 converter) working in my Lenny 
as well as Wheezy!
 
> If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
> more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer
> usage.

Then better search for an OS replacement. If you like Linux, there are 
some paid distributions that will be more than happy to have you as a 
client because bugs (filling and solving) are *a must* here (here → 
community driven projects).

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 14:50 +0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2012-04-29 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> >> Or is my MoBo giving up?
> >
> > No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
> > time ago.
> 
> Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse
> continue to work as they did in the past 14 years.

Some hardware still does work, as I said, my keyboard still is ok.

> > If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
> > more and more idiotic.
> 
> There are plenty other operating systems besides Linux.

No, there are not plenty OS that enable professional real-time usage for
audio.

> > Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage.
> 
> Surely that perception is the reason why you are trolling on this list
> rather than reporting a bug?

A lot of people report bugs, such as all the PA and nouveau issues, but
e.g. PA blames ALSA, downstream blames upstream etc. pp..

Regards,
Ralf

PS: Instead of calling me a troll, simply help the OP you troll.


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[paivakil]

Chris Bannister  writes:


 > Bollocks! My mouse and keyboard work fine.
>
 > Stop spreading FUD!


Thanks to guys who confirmed that support for PS/2 is not dropped. 

So, my question - which package is likely to cause the problem? 

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Re: ethernet device assignments

[paivakil]

Tony van der Hoff  writes:

 > In trying to track down some networking problems, I swapped the
 > ethernet adapter in my server. Since re-booting, it has been assigned
 > the moniker eth2 rather than eth1 (the motherbaord device is eth0).
>
 > So, how do I reset the second adapter to become eth1 again?

Look at /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules

Create a similar file, with the mac id of the card you want a specific
device id as ATTR(address ... etc and NAME="eth1"

Before you do that -- chances are you have already another device
configured to run as eth1, so look at the other files / other lines in
that file and see which device is configured to work as eth1.

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Chris Bannister]

On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 01:59:38PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Or is my MoBo giving up?

tl;dr

> No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
> time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard
> still does work.

Bollocks! My mouse and keyboard work fine.

Stop spreading FUD!

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Re: ethernet device assignments

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 14:36:03 +0100, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

> In trying to track down some networking problems, I swapped the ethernet
> adapter in my server. Since re-booting, it has been assigned the moniker
> eth2 rather than eth1 (the motherbaord device is eth0).
> 
> So, how do I reset the second adapter to become eth1 again?

You can edit "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" file and adjust 
it accordingly.

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Re: ethernet device assignments

[Hans-J. Ullrich]

Am Sonntag, 29. April 2012 schrieb Tony van der Hoff:
> In trying to track down some networking problems, I swapped the ethernet
> adapter in my server. Since re-booting, it has been assigned the moniker
> eth2 rather than eth1 (the motherbaord device is eth0).
> 
> So, how do I reset the second adapter to become eth1 again?
Hi Tony,

you can edit "/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules" to assign the device 
to your required needs.

At next reboot, the device eth0 or eth1 whatever will be connected to the 
according network card. 

Good luck!

Hans



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Re: ethernet device assignments

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 29/04/12 15:00, Jochen Spieker wrote:

Tony van der Hoff:


So, how do I reset the second adapter to become eth1 again?


Edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules or just remove it and
reboot.

J.


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Re: ethernet device assignments

[Jochen Spieker]

Tony van der Hoff:
> 
> So, how do I reset the second adapter to become eth1 again?

Edit /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules or just remove it and
reboot.

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Re: Wheezy xcp-xapi /usr/share/doc/xcp-xapi/README.Debian xe Error: Connection refused (calling connect )

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 16:19:30 -0700, David Christensen wrote:

> debian-user:
> 
> I'm attempting to follow along with the xcp-xapi README.Debian on
> Wheezy.  When I attempt to create a storage group, the "xe" command-line
> interface generates an error:
> 
>  # xe sr-create type=ext name-label=node0sr0 
> device-config:device=/dev/mapper/vg_xcp-lv_xcp
>  Error: Connection refused (calling connect )
> 
> 
> If I try to get help with "xe", I get the same error:
> 
>  # xe help
>  Error: Connection refused (calling connect )

Shouldn't that command be "xe -help" or "xe --help"? :-?

> Any suggestions?

I've never used that package but I would ensure to carefully follow the 
steps given at the file you mentioned (README:Debian), it seems to be 
somehow complicated so maybe you just missed or overlooked something 
(the above error message seems pointing to a problem coming from the 
network interface settings).

> p.s.  Is there a better mailing list to get support for xcp-xapi?

As suggested by the other README file, you can try to reach the devels 
at IRC in #xen-api channel.

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ethernet device assignments

[Tony van der Hoff]

In trying to track down some networking problems, I swapped the ethernet 
adapter in my server. Since re-booting, it has been assigned the moniker 
eth2 rather than eth1 (the motherbaord device is eth0).


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Re: Apache2 Not starting on reboot

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 07:11:12 -0500, John W. Foster wrote:

> My last upgrade of Debian stable on my production server produced an
> error that is causing issues. Apache2 is not automatically restarting as
> it should when the system is rebooted. 

It does not start just when system is rebooted or neither it does when 
booted from a cold start? Because the latter would be even more 
strange :-)

> This is a nightly occurrence and is required for hardware testing
> reasons. Anyone have any ideas as to what might be happening? I have
> checked the error log & see nothing that looks suspect. Webmin shows
> that the Apache server is setup to start on bootup. It seems to run
> fine after I manually restart the server after the reboot.

A success manual start up discards a syntax problem at the config 
files... Mmmm, this is a shoot in the dark but you can try to disable 
paralel booting and see how it goes (this can be done by setting 
"CONCURRENCY=none" into "/etc/default/rcS" file).

If that makes any difference, then you can start to think in how to 
restore the functionality without disturbing the Apache booting.

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Re: Apache2 Not starting on reboot

[paivakil]

"John W. Foster"  writes:

 > My last upgrade of Debian stable on my production server produced an
 > error that is causing issues. Apache2 is not automatically restarting as
 > it should when the system is rebooted. This is a nightly occurrence and
 > is required for hardware testing reasons. Anyone have any ideas as to
 > what might be happening? I have checked the error log & see nothing that
 > looks suspect. Webmin shows that the Apache server is setup to start on
 > bootup. It seems to run fine after I manually restart the server after
 > the reboot.

Is apache configured to start in the default runlevel?

(Rest is for completeness and newbies reading the list)

Check /etc/inittab for the line with "initdefault" in it to identify
your default runlevel - it is usually 2. 

Assuming your default runlevel is 2, there ought to be a symlink to
/etc/init.d/apache2 (or whatever) in /etc/rc2.d/ 

See the man page for update-rc.d on how to add apache to the default
runlevel. You  need to be  root to run update-rc.d

Sigh. I suddenly realise that for past several years, debian has  not
been giving me any reason to become root - except to update. 

HTH.

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Apache2 Not starting on reboot

[John W. Foster]

My last upgrade of Debian stable on my production server produced an
error that is causing issues. Apache2 is not automatically restarting as
it should when the system is rebooted. This is a nightly occurrence and
is required for hardware testing reasons. Anyone have any ideas as to
what might be happening? I have checked the error log & see nothing that
looks suspect. Webmin shows that the Apache server is setup to start on
bootup. It seems to run fine after I manually restart the server after
the reboot.
thanks!
frosty


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Re: iptables service with debian

[Pascal Hambourg]

Tom H a écrit :
> On Sat, Apr 28, 2012 at 4:30 AM, Pascal Hambourg  
> wrote:
>>
>> Iptables should be initialized from an initscript run before networking.
> 
> I agree but until someone else pointed out that there was
> iptables-persistent for that, there was no packaged way of doing so.

Actually, the iptables package itself used to contain such facility. But
it was removed in later versions.

> Until iptables-persistent was released in July 2009, there wasn't a
> packaged way of doing so and using "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/" was the
> recommended way, as documented in the Debian wiki.

I am not going to argue endlessly about this, but IMO being mentionned
in the Debian wiki does not make it "the recommended way".


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[paivakil]

Ralf Mardorf  writes:

 > On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Or is my MoBo giving up?
>
 > No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
 > time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard

That is a nasty thing to do. Here, the bloodsuckers hardware
vendors still palm off PS/2 input devices. PCs as recent as 1 year came
with PS/2 equipmen. 

Your reply has me so confused that I looked up wikipedia to ensure that
when I said "PS/2" I reall meant what I intended. Yes, I did say what I
had in mind.

So, the real bug is with the decision to drop support for PS/2, which,
IMHO, is required at least for another 3 to 4 years. 

What has me confused is, why is the PS/2 keyboard still working on the
console mode then? And which xorg component supports PS/2 input? I did
go back to the xserver-xorg-input-evdev, x-x-i-kbd and x-x-i-mouse
packages from stable, but things did not work. (with PS/2 on X, that
is).

This USB keyboard is right-royal PITA, dunno whether the issue is with
this specific brand or with the USB interface, but there is too much lag
between keystrokes and characters appearing on the screen. I type real
fast - 40+ wpm on qwerty layout. 

 > If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
 > more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer
 > usage.
>
 > For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue.
>

Having to use non-Linux OSes at office confirms my suspicion that
GNU/Linux based distros are waay more user friendly. 

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  LAWYER, n.  One skilled in circumvention of the law.


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Bug in logwatch? (not all archives are checked and --logdir is partially ignored).

[Maarten Derickx]

Dear All,

I'm using debian 6.0.4 and recently I ran into trouble using logwatch. I
have installed logwatch using apt-get and the only change I made to the
config related to logwatch is:

--- /dev/null
+++ b/logwatch/conf/logwatch.conf
@@ -0,0 +1 @@
+Range = since -7 days

and I setup a cronjob to get weekly mails. Now I noticed that not all my
login attemps using sshd where shown in these mails so I tried to start
debugging it.

The strange thing is that when I do:

logwatch --service sshd --archives

I get only 3 logins 2 from "mderickx" and 1 from "sageslave". (see Output 1
below)

While a simple grep to the log directory there are in the last week also
2+8=10 logins (see Output 2 below). The 8 aditional logins are in the
auth.log.1 file. According to the documentation of the --archives argument
the auth.log.1 file should also get checked. I quote the documentation:

--archives
Each log-file-group has basic logfiles (i.e. /var/log/messages) as well as
archives (i.e. /var/log/messages.? or /var/log/messages.?.gz).  When used
 with "--range all", this option will make Logwatch search through the
archives in addition to the regular logfiles.  For other values of --range,
Logwatch will search the appropriate archived logs.


The strange thing is that if I now do:

root@md:/var/log# gzip auth.log.1

and then

logwatch --service sshd --archives

then I do get the expected amount of 10 logins for the user mderickx in the
logwatch output. So it seems that in contrast to the what the documentation
suggests the uncompressed archive /var/log/auth.log.1 is not checked!


While debugging the above (I rather don't mess with my logfiles when not
nessecary) I copied auth.log and auth.log.1 to /tmp and and modified the
files to see how logwatch would react. And the strange thing is that when I
did

logwatch --logdir /tmp

I also got a lot of logwatch output related to for example apache while
there are no apache logs in /tmp. It seems like it also goes to /var/log
for files it cannot find in /tmp wich again doesn't mach the
documentation.

--logdir directory
  Look in directory for log subdirectories or log files instead
of the default directory.

It clearly sais instead and not in adition to or something like "first look
in directory and if not is found look in the default directory".



I hope I didn't scare you by the long mail, but I think it will be more
usefull then a short cryptic question in which it is harder to see what the
exact problem is.

Thanks Maarten


Output 1:

root@md:/var/log# logwatch --service sshd --archives

 ### Logwatch 7.3.6 (05/19/07) 
Processing Initiated: Sun Apr 29 13:46:24 2012
Date Range Processed: since -7 days
  ( 2012-Apr-22 / 2012-Apr-29 )
  Period is day.
Detail Level of Output: 0
Type of Output/Format: stdout / text
Logfiles for Host: md
  ##

 - SSHD Begin 

 Users logging in through sshd:
mderickx:
   82.139.86.4 (ip82-139-86-4.lijbrandt.net): 2 times
sageslave:
   127.0.0.1 (localhost): 1 time

 -- SSHD End -


 ## Logwatch End #




Output 2


root@md:/var/log# grep -r sshd ./ | grep mderickx | grep Accepted
./auth.log.1:Apr 26 13:01:02 mdsage sshd[4001]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 38018 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 26 13:03:09 mdsage sshd[4074]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 45710 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 26 13:03:33 mdsage sshd[4089]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 33735 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 26 16:34:02 mdsage sshd[6821]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 41634 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 26 18:41:18 mdsage sshd[9467]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 35548 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 28 14:41:20 mdsage sshd[1414]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 33067 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 29 01:19:22 mdsage sshd[16827]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 45557 ssh2
./auth.log.1:Apr 29 01:37:01 mdsage sshd[17073]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 45161 ssh2
./auth.log:Apr 29 12:27:53 mdsage sshd[23051]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 43719 ssh2
./auth.log:Apr 29 12:54:08 mdsage sshd[26049]: Accepted publickey for
mderickx from 82.139.86.4 port 43200 ssh2

Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Sven Joachim]

On 2012-04-29 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
>> Or is my MoBo giving up?
>
> No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
> time ago.

Unfortunately I did not know this, and my PS/2 keyboard and mouse
continue to work as they did in the past 14 years.

> If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
> more and more idiotic.

There are plenty other operating systems besides Linux.

> Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer usage.

Surely that perception is the reason why you are trolling on this list
rather than reporting a bug?

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 13:59 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> > Or is my MoBo giving up?
> 
> No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
TYPO:   ^^ after stable
> time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard
> still does work.
> 
> I've got an outdated Suse, some outdated Ubuntu, AVLinux aka Debian
> stable, current Ubuntu and current Arch installed.
> 
> If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
> more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer
> usage.
> 
> For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf

PS: I had Debian after stable installed too.


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Re: genisoimage and burning the iso created.

[Camaleón]

On Sun, 29 Apr 2012 02:13:37 +0100, Sharon Kimble wrote:

> i have just created an iso of some of my music collection so that i can
> play them off the DVD, delete them off the hard drive and free up more
> space for new music, that’s the plan anyhow.
> 
> The command i used was . genisoimage -o ~/irishceltic.iso
> /home/boztu/Music/Irish\ Celtic\ Music\ Collection\ Version\ 2/ 
> and it created irishceltic.iso which is 18.4 gbs big.
> 
> I now want to burn this to DVD's but brassero wont do multiple DVD from
> one source, and so far, i havne't been able to do it from k3b.
> 
> How do I do it in either brassero or k3b please? Or can it be done from
> the command line please?

I don't know about the burning program features but I bet you can use 
"split" command (to make chunks of data that fit in one DVD) and 
"cat" (if you want to restore the full image afterwards) for the task.

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Re: PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Sun, 2012-04-29 at 16:53 +0530, paiva...@gmail.com wrote:
> Or is my MoBo giving up?

No, Debian dropped working PS/2 equipment for versions ex stable a long
time ago. In my case only the mouse doesn't work anymore, the keyboard
still does work.

I've got an outdated Suse, some outdated Ubuntu, AVLinux aka Debian
stable, current Ubuntu and current Arch installed.

If there would be another OS, I would drop Linux, since things become
more and more idiotic. Nobody cares about bugs, for serious computer
usage.

For the future expect much more serious issues, but that PS/2 issue.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: openntpd not in stable

[Thomas Hochstein]

Mario -- schrieb:

> Hi, I know openntpd is in backports, but I'm curious, why was it
> removed from stable?

AFAIS first because it segfaults on kfreebsd-i386 [1] and then because
it works in a slightly confusing way [2]. That seems to be fixed now.

AFAIS it is part of Wheezy again.

You can check that yourself from
, which contains a
removal message at 2010-08-18, linking to
,
which refers to jcristau's hint file at
, which refers to
#593429

Regards,
-thh

[1] 
[2] ,
referring to 
from 2005/2007.


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[OT] Mails coming from "joe1assis...@gmail.com" (was: Install a package from testing?)

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:19:58 -0500, Nick Meyers wrote:

> Good evening all,

Nick,

Can you check if this e-mail is coming from you? 

***
Re: Install a package from testing?

1QA4xxx2a | Apr 29, 2012 11:21AM UTC

Thank you for submitting your request. We have received your request and 
are working on responding to you as soon as possible. If you have any 
additional information to add to this case, please reply to this email.

Thanks in advance for your patience and support.

--
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This message was sent to mysqluser...@hotmail.com in reference to Case 
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This is the second time I get those replies from users on this list.

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Re: openntpd not in stable

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:06:02 -0400, Mario -- wrote:

> Hi, I know openntpd is in backports, but I'm curious, why was it removed
> from stable? Thanks, bye.

when you are curious about the status of a package, you go to:

http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/openntpd.html

In the news sections you'll find some "remove" items. 

My guess is that as Squeeze was relased in 2011/02/06 and that package 
was removed before (not present in testing after Squeeze release and thus 
not available at the "freezing" time) it was not possible to include it 
in Squeeze.

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PS/2 Keyboard and Mice not working (USB is) on X

[paivakil]

Hi.

The problem, in short - 

I run Experimental (sources.list has two blocks, one each for
debian-multimedia, and debian.org, with three lines each for
experimental, sid and testing).

After a upgrade last Sunday, my keyboard and mouse were not working on
X, but were working on console. I tried everything, including going back
(only X related stuff) to stable, but no avail.

Few minutes back, I gave up, and before starting on  a clean reinstall,
plugged in the spare USB mouse and USB keyboard, and things are working
back again. (in both X and console).

Nvidia chipset, GeForce 7025/nForce 630a graphics on board chipset,
MCP61 PCI chipset on Asus M2N68 AM plus Mobo. More hardware details at
bottom. 

The long story:-

These are the packages upgraded, whcih precipated the issue:-



Aptitude 0.6.6: log report
Sun, Apr 22 2012 14:01:22 +0530

IMPORTANT: this log only lists intended actions; actions which fail due to
dpkg problems may not be completed.

Will install 98 packages, and remove 2 packages.
4,227 kB of disk space will be freed
===
[REMOVE, NOT USED] defoma:amd64
[REMOVE, NOT USED] libfont-freetype-perl:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] libhsqldb-java:amd64
[HOLD, DEPENDENCIES] xserver-xorg-input-evdev:amd64
[HOLD] xserver-xorg-input-kbd:amd64
[UPGRADE] apt:amd64 0.9.0~exp1 -> 0.9.2
[UPGRADE] apt-utils:amd64 0.9.0~exp1 -> 0.9.2
[UPGRADE] console-setup:amd64 1.75 -> 1.76
[UPGRADE] console-setup-linux:amd64 1.75 -> 1.76
[UPGRADE] cpp-4.6:amd64 4.6.3-3 -> 4.6.3-4
[UPGRADE] cups-filters:amd64 1.0.16-1 -> 1.0.16-2+b1
[UPGRADE] debhelper:amd64 9.20120410 -> 9.20120419
[UPGRADE] fontconfig:amd64 2.8.0-3.1 -> 2.9.0-1
[UPGRADE] fontconfig-config:amd64 2.8.0-3.1 -> 2.9.0-1
[UPGRADE] g++-4.6:amd64 4.6.3-3 -> 4.6.3-4
[UPGRADE] gcc-4.6:amd64 4.6.3-3 -> 4.6.3-4
[UPGRADE] gcc-4.6-base:amd64 4.6.3-3 -> 4.6.3-4
[UPGRADE] gir1.2-glib-2.0:amd64 1.32.0-1 -> 1.32.1-1
[UPGRADE] gphoto2:amd64 2.4.11-2 -> 2.4.14-1
[UPGRADE] grep:amd64 2.11-2 -> 2.11-3
[UPGRADE] gsettings-desktop-schemas:amd64 3.4.1-1 -> 3.4.1-2
[UPGRADE] hyphen-en-us:amd64 2.8.3-1 -> 2.8.3-2
[UPGRADE] icedove:amd64 10.0.3-3 -> 11.0-1
[UPGRADE] ifupdown:amd64 0.7~beta2 -> 0.7~rc1+experimental
[UPGRADE] initramfs-tools:amd64 0.101 -> 0.102
[UPGRADE] initscripts:amd64 2.88dsf-22.1 -> 2.88dsf-23
[UPGRADE] keyboard-configuration:amd64 1.75 -> 1.76
[UPGRADE] lib32v4l-0:amd64 0.8.7-1 -> 0.8.8-1
[UPGRADE] libapt-inst1.5:amd64 0.9.0~exp1 -> 0.9.2
[UPGRADE] libapt-pkg4.12:amd64 0.9.0~exp1 -> 0.9.2
[UPGRADE] libaudio2:amd64 1.9.3-4 -> 1.9.3-5
[UPGRADE] libc-bin:amd64 2.13-27 -> 2.13-30
[UPGRADE] libc-dev-bin:amd64 2.13-27 -> 2.13-30
[UPGRADE] libc6:amd64 2.13-27 -> 2.13-30
[UPGRADE] libc6-dev:amd64 2.13-27 -> 2.13-30
[UPGRADE] libc6-i386:amd64 2.13-27 -> 2.13-30
[UPGRADE] libcupsfilters1:amd64 1.0.16-1 -> 1.0.16-2+b1
[UPGRADE] libcwidget3:amd64 0.5.16-3.1 -> 0.5.16-3.2
[UPGRADE] libept1.4.12:amd64 1.0.6~exp1 -> 1.0.6.1
[UPGRADE] libfontconfig1:amd64 2.8.0-3.1 -> 2.9.0-1
[UPGRADE] libfontconfig1-dev:amd64 2.8.0-3.1 -> 2.9.0-1
[UPGRADE] libgail-3-0:amd64 3.4.0-1 -> 3.4.1-2
[UPGRADE] libgirepository-1.0-1:amd64 1.32.0-1 -> 1.32.1-1
[UPGRADE] libgnome-keyring-common:amd64 3.4.0-1 -> 3.4.1-1
[UPGRADE] libgnome-keyring0:amd64 3.4.0-1 -> 3.4.1-1
[UPGRADE] libgphoto2-2:amd64 2.4.13-2 -> 2.4.14-1
[UPGRADE] libgphoto2-port0:amd64 2.4.13-2 -> 2.4.14-1
[UPGRADE] libgps20:amd64 3.5-3 -> 3.5-4
[UPGRADE] libgtk-3-0:amd64 3.4.0-1 -> 3.4.1-2
[UPGRADE] libgtk-3-bin:amd64 3.4.0-1 -> 3.4.1-2
[UPGRADE] libgtk-3-common:amd64 3.4.0-1 -> 3.4.1-2
[UPGRADE] libhyphen0:amd64 2.8.3-1 -> 2.8.3-2
[UPGRADE] libjack-jackd2-0:amd64 1.9.8~dfsg.2-1 -> 
1.9.8~dfsg.3+20120418gitf82ec715-1
[UPGRADE] liblcms1:amd64 1.19.dfsg-1+b1 -> 1.19.dfsg-1+b2
[UPGRADE] libmtp-common:amd64 1.1.3-1 -> 1.1.3-2
[UPGRADE] libmtp9:amd64 1.1.3-1 -> 1.1.3-2
[UPGRADE] libnautilus-extension1a:amd64 3.2.1-3 -> 3.4.1-1
[UPGRADE] libnetpbm10:amd64 2:10.0-15 -> 2:10.0-15+b1
[UPGRADE] libopenjpeg2:amd64 1.3+dfsg-4 -> 1.3+dfsg-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libp11-kit0:amd64 0.12-2 -> 0.12-3
[UPGRADE] libparted0debian1:amd64 2.3-9 -> 2.3-9.1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-base:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-base-core:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-calc:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-core:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-draw:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-impress:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-math:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-report-builder-bin:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] libreoffice-writer:amd64 1:3.5.2-4 -> 1:3.5.2-4+b1
[UPGRADE] librsvg2-2:amd64 2.36.0-5 -> 2.36.1-1
[UPGRADE] librsvg2-common:amd64 2.36.0-5 -> 2.36.1-1
[UPGRADE] libruby1.8:amd64 1.8.7.352-2 -> 1.8.7.358-1
[UPGRADE] libservlet2.5-java:amd64 6.0.35-2 -> 6.0.35-3
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Re: Install a package from testing?

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 17:19:58 -0500, Nick Meyers wrote:

> Good evening all,

Hi... please, turn off html when posting, thanks :-)
 
(...)

> How hard would it be to install just that package from the testing
> suite, and if it is not too much trouble, would someone be willing to
> direct me?

I can't tell how hard it can be but have you considered in getting the 
deb file from the upstream site¹? It says it's for "Ubuntu" but it may 
also also work for Debian :-?

¹http://www.mysql.com/downloads/workbench/#downloads

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Re: Anyway of keeping gnome2 while upgrading from Squeeze to Wheezy

[Camaleón]

On Sat, 28 Apr 2012 20:47:25 +0100, Ellwood Blues wrote:

>> So thanks but no, I will be be loyal to GNOME until they decide to take
>> a radical path I can't deal with (like it happened when I moved from
>> KDE 3 to GNOME 2 because of the poor state of KDE 4.0).
> 
> 
> So you will be loyal but Gnome won't?

No, I did not say -by no means- that. Maybe you missed the "until" and 
the rest of the argument. 

When I feel that GNOME has completely lost the north and prevents me from 
having a deskotp like I want (which is still not the case, and MATE is a 
perfect proof that demonstrates it) then -and only then- I will 
reconsider my desktop election (again).

In this life, when you choose something (it can be a linux distribution, 
a desktop environment or even a friendship...) you do it by evaluating 
the pros and cons and you have to find a "fine rate deal" between what 
the defaults provides and if that's enough for you. To my eyes, for a 
desktop environment that translates into "is GNOME still flexible so that 
I can configure it as I want it?". My response to that is "yes" (at least 
for now, because nobody can guarantee the same will remain in a future), 
the new gnome-shell paradigm is still flexible enough to let me customize 
things like I want. Period.

> I think that that mentality will kill linux.

"Loyalty" is a killer? I'd say in today's world is something sadly scarce 
but of a great value.
 
> As Jono Bacon said recently «Canonical used to be a project but now is a
> product.»

And I beg to differ. Canonical has been always a "company" (nor a project 
nor a product). Ubuntu, by the way, is a project.

> I am sorry but I prefer on linux the project mentality. Products are
> Windows and Apple and Android and Unity, etc.
> 
> Happy that Debian is still there.

I don't see any relation behind that reasoning. GNOME is GNOME (a FLOSS 
project) and Debian is Debian (a FLOSS project), they both can share 
things and they can concur in some aspects... or not. But redaless, the 
final decision on what to use and how to use it is always on the user's 
side.

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RE: iptables service with debian

[Bonno Bloksma]

Hi,

> It's best to run an iptables script from "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/".
 Only for the rules which are related to a specific interface. 
 Ruleset initialization should not be done from there.
>>>
>>> Why not?
>>
>> Because it makes no sense to re-initialize the ruleset every time an 
>> interface is activated.
>>
>>> Is this documented somewhere? If not, from where should iptables 
>>> rules be launched?
>>
>> Iptables should be initialized from an initscript run before networking.
>
> I agree but until someone else pointed out that there was iptables-persistent 
> for that, there was no packaged way of doing so.
>
> Until iptables-persistent was released in July 2009, there wasn't a packaged 
> way of doing so and using "/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/" was the recommended 
> way, as documented in the Debian wiki.

I have been running iptable scripts for years but never ran them from 
"/etc/network/if-pre-up.d/". In Debian I have always used the pre-up line in 
the interfaces file, in RedHat I used the rc.local file or created my own Sxx 
link in the rc.X drectories to get it started before the network came up.

The other way to save/load iptables rules has been to use iptables-save and 
iptables-restore (or something like it) which I have used in the old days when 
there was RedHat 4.x (before it came to be known as Fedora) and so on.

Bonno


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