date:20120601

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:08:32 +0200
Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr wrote:

 Les valeurs ne contiennent pas de virgule (pas de valeur du type
 123,45). Aucun champs ne comprend de guillemets ou équivalents.
 
 OpenOffice sait parfaitement lire ce type de fichiers, mais
 malheureusement, en sortie, OpenOffice entoure systématiquement les
 valeurs non entières de guillemets (je peux choisir le caractère
 entre 2 possibilités mais je ne peux pas ne pas avoir de
 guillemet).

Heu, là soit tu t'es trompé, soit tu t'es trompé:  dans le 1er§ tu
nous dis que les valeurs ne contiennent pas de virgules, et dans
le 2nd§ qu'OpenOffice entoure systématiquement les valeurs non 
entières de guillemets.

Donc soit tu veux dire autre chose que ce que tu as écris, soit tu
as des valeurs non-entières.

 Cette façon de procéder est semble-t-il la plus conforme aux normes
 qui décrivent le format CSV mais elle n'est pas la plus pratique
 pour moi.

Si tu expliquais ce que tu veux faire _exactement_, il serait bcp
plus facile d'avoir une vue d'ensemble et de répondre _précisément_

 Connaissez-vous un tableur ou équivalent (sous Squeeze) capable de
 lire et écrire facilement ce type de fichier ?

Tous sont plus ou moins capables d'importer/exporter du CSV, le PB
c'est que comme Dominique te l'as dit, les spécifications dudit CSV
sont très larges; et qu'effectivement le consensus actuel est
d'enclore le contenu des cellules entre double-guillemets avec un
séparateur de cellule: ;

Ca résulte d'une simple logique: si jamais tu n'utilises pas de
délimiteur de texte/valeur et que tu sépares avec: , le jour où une
virgule se glissera qq part, tout le château de carte s'écroule
(et comme , est le séparateur numérique pour certains pays dont
celui-ci).

Sinon, tous les tableurs correctement construits sont capables
d'éditer le filtre CSV d'import/export et donc permettent toutes les
fantaisies, reste à bien réfléchir en amont parce que Murphy est
toujours là et n'attend que la première occasion pour sévir...

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Re: Quel tableur pour écrire des fichiers CSV sans délimiteur de texte ?

2012-06-01 Thread Dominique Asselineau

Bzzz wrote on Fri, Jun 01, 2012 at 01:36:14PM +0200
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 11:08:32 +0200
 Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr wrote:
 
  Les valeurs ne contiennent pas de virgule (pas de valeur du type
  123,45). Aucun champs ne comprend de guillemets ou équivalents.
  
  OpenOffice sait parfaitement lire ce type de fichiers, mais
  malheureusement, en sortie, OpenOffice entoure systématiquement les
  valeurs non entières de guillemets (je peux choisir le caractère
  entre 2 possibilités mais je ne peux pas ne pas avoir de
  guillemet).
 
 Heu, là soit tu t'es trompé, soit tu t'es trompé:  dans le 1er§ tu
 nous dis que les valeurs ne contiennent pas de virgules, et dans
 le 2nd§ qu'OpenOffice entoure systématiquement les valeurs non 
 entières de guillemets.

Dans ce cas les virgules sont prises comme des caractères banalisés.
Du coup il se retrouve avec un enregistrement par ligne normalement
encadré par des guillemets.

 
 Donc soit tu veux dire autre chose que ce que tu as écris, soit tu
 as des valeurs non-entières.
 
  Cette façon de procéder est semble-t-il la plus conforme aux normes
  qui décrivent le format CSV mais elle n'est pas la plus pratique
  pour moi.
 
 Si tu expliquais ce que tu veux faire _exactement_, il serait bcp
 plus facile d'avoir une vue d'ensemble et de répondre _précisément_
 
  Connaissez-vous un tableur ou équivalent (sous Squeeze) capable de
  lire et écrire facilement ce type de fichier ?
 
 Tous sont plus ou moins capables d'importer/exporter du CSV, le PB
 c'est que comme Dominique te l'as dit, les spécifications dudit CSV
 sont très larges; et qu'effectivement le consensus actuel est
 d'enclore le contenu des cellules entre double-guillemets avec un
 séparateur de cellule: ;
 
 Ca résulte d'une simple logique: si jamais tu n'utilises pas de
 délimiteur de texte/valeur et que tu sépares avec: , le jour où une
 virgule se glissera qq part, tout le château de carte s'écroule
 (et comme , est le séparateur numérique pour certains pays dont
 celui-ci).

Quand la valeur est encadrée par des doubles quotes, virgule ou
point-virgule ne pose pas de problème.  L'autre logique est que CSV
veut dire Comma-separated values.  Et comma veut dire virgule.  Ça
déroute en effet.

Dominique

 
 Sinon, tous les tableurs correctement construits sont capables
 d'éditer le filtre CSV d'import/export et donc permettent toutes les
 fantaisies, reste à bien réfléchir en amont parce que Murphy est
 toujours là et n'attend que la première occasion pour sévir...
 
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Re: Quel tableur pour écrire des fichiers CSV sans délimiteur de texte ?

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 14:55:17 +0200
Dominique Asselineau assel...@telecom-paristech.fr wrote:

 point-virgule ne pose pas de problème.  L'autre logique est que CSV
 veut dire Comma-separated values.  Et comma veut dire virgule.  Ça
 déroute en effet.

Merci pour tes précisions.

Déjà, comme on a ni les tenants, ni les aboutissants, on ne peut que
supputer (mais de luxe!:) ce que l'OP veut faire.

Ensuite (mais ce qui suit n'engage que moi), il me semble que l'OP
veut faire l'économie (mal placée) d'un coup de sed ou plus
exactement d'une légère refonte du code, histoire de prendre le
standard (+;) en compte.

Je ne pense pas non-plus qu'il se soit posé la question du fondement
de ce choix qu'une majorité d'éditeurs plébiscite; c'est simple:
c'est avec cette combinaison que les risques de casse sont les moins
élevés.

Plier les standards à sa volonté pour ne pas revoir son code n'a
jamais constitué une solution viable IMHO, mais plutôt une cause
de multiple failures (passées?), présentes et à venir...

Ca me fait penser à la méthode m$: on dérive du std en espérant que
son hégémonie fera le reste, et donc on pète joyeusement toute la
chaîne de ceux qui les respectent qui va derrière (sans compter les
introductions de bugs et failles de sécurité, mais ceci est une autre
histoire).

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imprimer à distance

salut,


je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur une serveur web (B).

J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur l'imprimante locale
(en B donc). Comment faire ?

Merci.

s.

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Re: [testing] ne pas utiliser shotwell

2012-06-01 Thread Gaëtan PERRIER

Le Mon, 28 May 2012 00:34:45 +0200
Guillaume Caron guillaume.caron.h...@orange.fr a écrit:

 
 Bon, je pense avoir trouvé. Comme d'hab, il suffisait de lire la doc :-)
 En l'occurence, la configuration des types MIME sous GNOME :
 http://library.gnome.org/admin/system-admin-guide/stable/mimetypes-registering.html.en
  
 
 Après il fallait chercher à coup de grep dans /usr/share/applications le
 type MIME des appareils photos, qui est « x-content/image-dcf ».
 
 Donc, pour forcer Nautilus à les prendre en charge, la solution est de
 créer (ou modifier) le fichier ~/.local/share/application/defaults.list
 et d'y mettre ce contenu :
 [Default Applications]
 x-content/image-dcf=nautilus.desktop;
 ~/.local/share/application/defaults.list
 Avec ça, ça fonctionne chez moi.
 

Il y a sûrement un autre moyen car je viens d'essayer sur mon fixe qui n'a pas
ça dans ~/.local/share/application/defaults.list et il m'ouvre bien nautilus.
D'ailleurs il l'ouvre directement sans rien demander.

Gaëtan

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Re: imprimer à distance

2012-06-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage

Le vendredi 1 juin 2012 à 20:49:30, steve a écrit :
 salut,

’lut,

 je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur une serveur web
 (B).
 
 J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur
 l'imprimante locale (en B donc). Comment faire ?

  Reformulons : je suis chez moi et je me connecte sur le 
serveur web de la Poste. Commet faire pour imprimer sur 
l’imprimante du bureau de poste en bas de la rue ?

  Tu trouves tout seul la réponse ?

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Re: imprimer à distance

2012-06-01 Thread Ken-Patrick Lehrmann

Le 01/06/2012 20:49, steve a écrit :
 salut,

Salut,

 je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur une serveur web (B).

Ce n'est pas clair. Tu te connectes via une appli web ? via ssh ?
 
 J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur l'imprimante locale
 (en B donc). Comment faire ?

Si c'est via une appli web, euh, spa possib, sauf si c'est prévu dans
l'appli.
Si c'est via ssh : lp tapage.pdf

 
 Merci.
 
 s.
 

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Re: imprimer à distance

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:49:30 +0200
steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote:

 je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur UN serveur web (B).
 
 J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur l'imprimante
 locale (en B donc). Comment faire ?

À priori, il te faut un CUPS server sur B; après, soit tu encryptes
tout le traffic de CUPS et tu l'administres à distance (mais ça
oblige à avoir une adresse IP fixe à la maison, à moins qu'un dyndns
ne suffise - à voir) et il vaut mieux éviter de se tromper dans la
conf, soit tu mets tout le monde en OpenVPN.

Perso, j'établirais un OpenVPN entre les 2 machines pour 3 raisons:
* c'est plus rapide à faire (enfin pour moi qui n'ai pas tripoté de
  conf CUPS depuis longtemps),
* si OpenVPN est mal configuré, ça ne marche pas, et c'est tout,
* si tu te bananes dans la conf d'un CUPS en prise directe sur
  l'Internet, je ne donne pas cher de la viabilité de ton svr dans
  les 15 minutes qui suivent.
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Re: imprimer à distance

Le 01-06-2012, à 21:09:25 +0200, Ken-Patrick Lehrmann (kp.lehrm...@gmail.com) a 
écrit :

 Le 01/06/2012 20:49, steve a écrit :
  salut,
 
 Salut,
 
  je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur une serveur web (B).
 
 Ce n'est pas clair. Tu te connectes via une appli web ? via ssh ?

via un simple navigateur. Je suis chez moi ; je tape
http://mon_serveur_distant/mon_appli ; je bosse dessus, et je veux
imprimer sue l'imprimante de mon serveur distant, pour que mon employé
puisse prendre le document et aller bosser.

 
  J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur l'imprimante locale
  (en B donc). Comment faire ?
 
 Si c'est via une appli web, euh, spa possib, sauf si c'est prévu dans
 l'appli.

Ok. Comment on fait ?


 Si c'est via ssh : lp tapage.pdf

Non, ssh est trop compliqué en l'occurrence. Si c'était pour moi, je
ferai un ssh -X et le tour est joué (il me semble). Mais c'est pour un
utilisateur amoureux du Logiciel Libre mais qui n'a pas envie de trop de
prendre la tête...

Donc quelle solution ? :wq


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Re: imprimer à distance

Le 01-06-2012, à 21:13:49 +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage (sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr) 
a écrit :

 Le vendredi 1 juin 2012 à 20:49:30, steve a écrit :
  salut,
 
 ’lut,
 
  je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur une serveur web
  (B).
  
  J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur
  l'imprimante locale (en B donc). Comment faire ?
 
   Reformulons : je suis chez moi et je me connecte sur le 
 serveur web de la Poste. Commet faire pour imprimer sur 
 l’imprimante du bureau de poste en bas de la rue ?

C'est cela... :)

 
   Tu trouves tout seul la réponse ?


Non, sinon je n'aurai pas posé la question...

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Re: imprimer à distance

Le 01-06-2012, à 21:27:32 +0200, Bzzz (lazyvi...@gmx.com) a écrit :

 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 20:49:30 +0200
 steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote:
 
  je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur UN serveur web (B).
  
  J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur l'imprimante
  locale (en B donc). Comment faire ?
 
 À priori, il te faut un CUPS server sur B; après, soit tu encryptes
 tout le traffic de CUPS et tu l'administres à distance (mais ça
 oblige à avoir une adresse IP fixe à la maison, à moins qu'un dyndns
 ne suffise - à voir) et il vaut mieux éviter de se tromper dans la
 conf, soit tu mets tout le monde en OpenVPN.
 
 Perso, j'établirais un OpenVPN entre les 2 machines pour 3 raisons:
 * c'est plus rapide à faire (enfin pour moi qui n'ai pas tripoté de
   conf CUPS depuis longtemps),
 * si OpenVPN est mal configuré, ça ne marche pas, et c'est tout,

Rien compris... :)


 * si tu te bananes dans la conf d'un CUPS en prise directe sur
   l'Internet, je ne donne pas cher de la viabilité de ton svr dans
   les 15 minutes qui suivent.

Je pige ça .. :)

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Re: imprimer à distance

2012-06-01 Thread David Pinson


Le 01/06/2012 21:56, steve a écrit :

Le 01-06-2012, à 21:13:49 +0200, Sylvain L. Sauvage (sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr) 
a écrit :


Le vendredi 1 juin 2012 à 20:49:30, steve a écrit :

salut,

’lut,


je suis à la maison et je me connecte sur une serveur web
(B).

J'aimerai imprimer une page de ce serveur web B sur
l'imprimante locale (en B donc). Comment faire ?

   Reformulons : je suis chez moi et je me connecte sur le
serveur web de la Poste. Commet faire pour imprimer sur
l’imprimante du bureau de poste en bas de la rue ?

C'est cela... :)



   Tu trouves tout seul la réponse ?


Non, sinon je n'aurai pas posé la question...


Ce n'est pas plus simple d'envoyer un pdf par fax ?  :-)
Ok! Je sors...
@+
David

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Re: imprimer à distance

Tu trouves tout seul la réponse ?
 
 Non, sinon je n'aurai pas posé la question...
 
 Ce n'est pas plus simple d'envoyer un pdf par fax ?  :-)
 Ok! Je sors...
 

On sort ensemble ?

nomé !

 :)


PS : c'est si compliqué comme problème ?

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Re: imprimer à distance

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:57:41 +0200
steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote:

Vu qu'on en sait un peu plus.. soit tu ajoutes la possibilité
d'imprimer dans ton appli, soit tu l'exploites à distance à travers
disons: ssh -X monbrowserkilèlocalsumonserveramoi, de façon à
disposer de l'impression locale dans le browser.

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Re: imprimer à distance

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 21:57:41 +0200
steve dl...@bluewin.ch wrote:

Whoops:
ssh -X monuser@monserver monbrowserkilèlocalsumonserveramoi

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Re: imprimer à distance

2012-06-01 Thread Sylvain L. Sauvage

Le vendredi 1 juin 2012 à 21:56:17, steve a écrit :
[…]
Reformulons : je suis chez moi et je me connecte sur le
  serveur web de la Poste. Commet faire pour imprimer sur
  l’imprimante du bureau de poste en bas de la rue ?
 
 C'est cela... :)
 
Tu trouves tout seul la réponse ?
 
 Non, sinon je n'aurai[s] pas posé la question...

  Hum, apprends ce mot nouveau : « sarcasme ».

  La question que ta as posée, avec le peu de paramètres que tu 
as donnés, est équivalente à ma reformulation. Si tu n’es pas la 
Poste (ce que tu n’as pas spécifié), tu ne peux évidemment rien 
faire. Si tu es toi-même la Poste (l’es-tu ?), tu as les 
solutions gentiment données par les autres (oui, ils sont 
gentils de répondre avec si peu d’éléments) :

— ssh, mais tu n’en veux pas (mais ça, on l’a su plus tard) ;
— vpn, mais tu n’en veux pas (mais ça, on l’a su plus tard) ;
— cups ouvert, mais personne n’en veut ;
— le « site web » le fait pour toi, mais il faut que tu le
  maîtrises et on ne connaît évidemment strictement rien de
  ce site web à part qu’il est « sur B ».

  Bon, avec l’hypothèse que tu ne sais pas comment fonctionne le 
web (vu la question, ce n’est pas si hypothétique…), j’allais te 
renvoyer sur Wikipedia ou autre mais c’est beaucoup de blabla 
pas très clair. Donc je m’y colle :

Version simple : un serveur web, c’est un programme qui envoie 
un fichier quand un client (navigateur) lui demande. C’est tout.

  Bon, ça se complique : certains fichiers sont dynamiques, 
c’est-à-dire créés à la volée par une autre application (ou un 
module intégré au serveur mais le fonctionnement est le même, 
c’est juste plus performant ou plus pratique).
  C’est l’application (p.ex. du code PHP) qui sait, *si elle a 
envie de le savoir*, qui est qui et qui a demandé quoi.

  Donc, la page web que tu regardes chez toi, et qui correspond 
en général à tout un tas de fichiers, donc de requêtes, 
combinés, si l’application (le « site web ») n’a pas prévu de la 
manipuler sur le serveur (p.ex., au hasard, pour l’envoyer à 
l’impression sur le dit serveur), il n’y a que ton navigateur 
qui la connaisse et qui puisse l’imprimer, donc *en local*, chez 
toi.

  D’où les deux types de solutions proposées :
1. récupérer le document local et l’envoyer à l’imprimante
  distante (ou au fax :o) ;
2. travailler à distance (et donc tout (imprimante, navigateur,
  serveur et document) est distant pour toi mais locaux entre
  eux).

  Donc si tu ne veux pas de ssh ou vpn, et si tu ne peux pas 
modifier cette application, ce « site web », pour lui ajouter 
une action « imprimer sur le serveur », ou, de façon biaisée, si 
tu ne peux pas récupérer sur le serveur le « document » que tu 
vois et voudrais imprimer, ben tu ne pourras pas imprimer le 
site de la NASA sur la Lune…

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Re: imprimer à distance

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 23:53:48 +0200
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C'est beau comme du Zola (mâtiné de Tolkien;)

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Re: imprimer à distance

2012-06-01 Thread JF Straeten

On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 12:09:58AM +0200, Bzzz wrote:
 On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 23:53:48 +0200
 Sylvain L. Sauvage sylvain.l.sauv...@free.fr wrote:
 
 C'est beau comme du Zola (mâtiné de Tolkien;)

Etu n zeste de Baxter pour NASA et lune :-)

Oups, on n'est déjà plus vendredi...

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Re: imprimer à distance

On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 00:15:26 +0200
JF Straeten jfstrae...@scarlet.be wrote:

Yeah, a small step for cups, a giant leap for siteweb kind ]:-)

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Re: OT-Alternativa mysql cluster

2012-06-01 Thread Marc Olive

Ya que me contestas en privado, yo también ;-)
Eso deberia ir haber ido a la lista, yo ya uso Postgres y no busco 
alternativas a Mysql cluster. 

Saludos,

On Thursday 31 May 2012 18:22:24 Sergio Villalba wrote:
 Sigue este hilo:
 
 http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-es-ayuda/2010-09/msg00209.php
 
 Un saludo y suerte.
 
 PD: Yo me decanto por PostgreSQL, si tienes leuros Oracle :) muy
 importante servidor, discos duros, sistema ficheros, etc...
 
 El día 31 de mayo de 2012 12:45, Marc Olive
 
 marc.ol...@blauadvisors.com escribió:
  On Thursday 31 May 2012 12:17:23 Maykel Franco wrote:
  Y una solucion de alta disponibilidad y replicación de datos?(quitando
  mysql cluster claro está...)
  
  Postgres con pgpool o sin:
  http://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Replication,_Clustering,_and_Connection_P
  ooling
  
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Re: Problemas con la carga de módulo de alsa

2012-06-01 Thread Ernest Sales

On dj, 2012-05-31 at 12:43 -0500, Carlos Jimenez wrote:
 Hola amigos de la lista, recurro a ustedes porque tengo un problema en
 mi pc que no he podido solucionar por mas que he googleado.
 
 Uso Debian Squeeze con arquitectura de 64 bits, tengo una tarjeta de
 sonido HDA VIA VT8237 que es cargada como módulo snd_hda_intel, ademas
 de esto cuento con una tarjeta de TV KWORLD Plus Tv Analog lite PCI
 (PVR-TV 7134) que se carga como saa7134_alsa.
 
 El problema radica en que al arranque del pc estas cargan
 aleatoriamente, y la idea es que cargue siempre de primero en módulo
 de la tarjeta de audio (snd_hda_intel), sin embargo cada que carga al
 contrario, el pc queda sin audio y toca reiniciarlo una o varias veces
 hasta que carga los módulos en el orden correcto.
 
 He intentado las siguientes soluciones:
 
 -Editar el archivo /etc/modules agregando la línea snd_hda_intel o
 snd-hda-intel, tambien he intentado agregando la línea saa7134_alsa o
 saa7134-alsa, como por ensayar, pero no hay resultado alguno.
 
 -Editar el archivo /etc/default/alsa modificando la línea
 force_unload_modules_before_suspend= por
 force_unload_modules_before_suspend=snd-hda-intel o por
 force_unload_modules_before_suspend=saa7134-alsa y con las mismas
 combinaciones de guiones altos y bajos.
 
 Por ser Squeeze no aplica usar el alsa-config.
 
 Tambien edité el archivo /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, reemplazando
 algunos -2 por ceros, uno a la vez. Sin resultados.

Pues ahí es donde debes solucionarlo. Tenía un enlace que lo explicaba:

http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards#Reordering_the_driver_for_a_particular_card

pero ahora mismo está muerto. Si no recuerdo mal, para tu caso sería
añadir esta línea:

options snd slots=snd-hda-intel,saa7134-alsa

(o tal vez con guiones bajos).

Salud y suerte.



 
 De nuevo muchas gracias por su amable asesoría.
 
 




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Re: Evitar descargas de imagenes en apache2 debian

El Thu, 31 May 2012 19:43:01 +0200, Maykel Franco Hernández escribió:

(ese html...)

 Hola muy buenas, necesito evitar que se descarguen las imágenes de una
 cierta carpeta. No me refiero a no listarlas con el Options -Indexes,
 sino que no se puedan descargar. Que el directorio se liste pero no se
 puedan descargar. Estoy buscando documentación pero sólo encuentro el
 Options -Indexes.

Puedes usar un redirect, aunque no impediría la descarga directa 
(conociendo la URI exacta) de la imagen.

También te podría servir un DirectoryMatch o FilesMatch y denegar el 
acceso (order deny,allow deny from all) a ese directorio/archivo(s).

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Re: Problemas con la carga de módulo de alsa

El Thu, 31 May 2012 12:43:27 -0500, Carlos Jimenez escribió:

Uso Debian Squeeze con arquitectura de 64 bits, tengo una tarjeta de
sonido HDA VIA VT8237 que es cargada como módulo snd_hda_intel, ademas
de esto cuento con una tarjeta de TV KWORLD Plus Tv Analog lite PCI
(PVR-TV 7134) que se carga como saa7134_alsa.

El problema radica en que al arranque del pc estas cargan
aleatoriamente, y la idea es que cargue siempre de primero en módulo de
la tarjeta de audio (snd_hda_intel), sin embargo cada que carga al
contrario, el pc queda sin audio y toca reiniciarlo una o varias veces
hasta que carga los módulos en el orden correcto.

El orden de carga de los módulos no debería repercutir en el
funcionamiento del sonido... si quieres que el sistema use una de las
tarjetas de sonido como la salida predeterminada puedes configurarlo:

http://wiki.debian.org/ALSA#Troubleshooting
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Linux_Sound_Architecture#Set_the_default_sound_card
http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Referenced_applications

Por otra parte, no hace falta que reinicies el equipo, sencillamente
descarga los módulos y vuelve a cargarlos en el orden correcto.

He intentado las siguientes soluciones:

-Editar el archivo /etc/modules agregando la línea snd_hda_intel o
snd-hda-intel, tambien he intentado agregando la línea saa7134_alsa o
saa7134-alsa, como por ensayar, pero no hay resultado alguno.

Hum... no creo que ese sea el lugar correcto para hacerlo.

-Editar el archivo /etc/default/alsa modificando la línea
force_unload_modules_before_suspend= por
force_unload_modules_before_suspend=snd-hda-intel o por
force_unload_modules_before_suspend=saa7134-alsa y con las mismas
combinaciones de guiones altos y bajos.

Esto otro sirve para controlar los módulos que quieres descargar antes de
suspender el equipo... tampoco sirve.

Por ser Squeeze no aplica usar el alsa-config.

Tambien edité el archivo /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf, reemplazando
algunos -2 por ceros, uno a la vez. Sin resultados.

Por aquí creo que vas bien :-)

Mira a ver si te valdría con esto, tal y como indican en la wiki de
Debian:

options snd_hda_intel index=0
options saa7134_alsa index=1

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Re: Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

El Thu, 31 May 2012 14:06:54 -0500, kazabe escribió:

 estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
 servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas.  Por ejemplo: enviar un
 correo a servi...@dominio.com con el asunto: REPORTARSE, y que el
 servidor envie a una cuenta indicada un reporte del estado de la
 maquina.

Es posible, de hecho hay scripts que lo hacen.

 tengo varios scripts con los que realizo esas tareas por ssh, de esta
 manera
 
 ssh usuario@servidor /opt/scripts/reportarse.sh
 
 Con eso el servidor me envia un resumen del estado del servidor, a una
 cuenta de correo que ya esta declarada dentro del script.   La idea es
 poder realizar lo mismo, pero por correo.

Hum... vale, pero tendrás que tener un script muy bien desarrollado :-)

 Toda la informacion que logro encontrar es referente a enviar correos
 desde la linea de comandos, pero lo que necesito es enviar un comando al
 servidor por correo.
 
 Alguno de ustedes ha tenido algun esquema similar?  Pueden facilitarme
 alguna idea para saber por donde enfoco mi investigacion?

Te comento lo que conozco. Actualmente, con hylafax (servidor de faxes) 
se incluye un script que permite el envío de faxes por correo electrónico 
(mail2fax) que se encarga de extraer los datos del correo electrónico 
(asunto, cuerpo del mensaje) y los envía al servidor de faxes.

Es decir, sí, es posible hacer lo que buscas, pero necesitas generar un 
script que se encargue de desmenuzar y extraer los datos contenidos en 
ese correo electrónico para que sean inteligibles y procesados por tu 
segundo script (reportarse.sh).

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GNOME en Wheezy (era: Wheezy congelada para mediados de junio)

El Thu, 31 May 2012 15:52:28 -0400, Ismael L. Donis Garcia escribió:

 Y ya está resuelto lo de las configuraciones de gnome3 también para ese
 entonces?, o mejor dicho de gnome-shell?

¿A qué problema de configuración te refieres? :-?

 Como quedará este sistema de escritorio en definitiva?

Pues wheezy llevará GNOME 3.4... creo.

 Realizo todas estas preguntas por los comentarios que han surgido con
 anterioridad en esta lista y como yo no tengo acceso a Internet y no
 tengo gnome3 todavía pues temo un poco que gnome3 quede un poco verde
 aun con el Wheezy.

Te puede gustar o no el nuevo paradigma de gnome-shell pero funciona 
bastante bien, la verdad, y lo más importante desde mi punto de vista, es 
que es aceptablemente estable. 

Por su parte, GNOME3 tiene aún cosas por mejorar (por ejemplo, la gestión 
de múltiples monitores no está nada pulida) y alguna cosilla más pero 
nada extremadamente grave o serio.

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Re: Es posible enviar comandos por smtp a servidores????????

2012-06-01 Thread Cayetano Lupenna [NR]

On 01/06/12 16:01, Camaleón wrote:

 El Thu, 31 May 2012 14:06:54 -0500, kazabe escribió:
 
 estoy buscando la forma de lograr enviar un comando por smtp a mis
 servidores para ejecutar tareas especificas. 

Mira la documentación de procmail. Quizá te sirva

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No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

2012-06-01 Thread academia


Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y carpetas
que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna forma lo puedo
hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo que quiero borrar
no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin embargo vuelvo al
escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el escritorio me da un mensaje
que dice:

No such file o directory

Alguna solución


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[OT-Ubuntu] Re: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

El Fri, 01 Jun 2012 11:19:07 -0400, academia escribió:

 Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y
 carpetas que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna
 forma lo puedo hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo
 que quiero borrar no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin
 embargo vuelvo al escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el
 escritorio me da un mensaje que dice:
 
 No such file o directory

Es posible que el sistema de archivos esté corrupto o tenga algún 
problema. Desde una LiveCD, pasa un fsck a la partición e intenta de 
nuevo.

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Re: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

2012-06-01 Thread Daniel Vidal de la Rubia

2012/6/1  acade...@pinarte.cult.cu:

 Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y carpetas
 que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna forma lo puedo
 hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo que quiero borrar
 no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin embargo vuelvo al
 escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el escritorio me da un mensaje
 que dice:

 No such file o directory

 Alguna solución


Buenas,

Cuidado que Ubuntu (no sé si también lo hace Debian, dado que no uso
GNU/Linux en el escritorio :P) traduce el nombre de los directorios
del home, por lo tanto el escritorio (y sus ficheros) se encuentra en
/home/usuario/Escritorio

En cuanto a que no puedas borrarlos mediante la GUI, es posible que te
los haya puesto ahí algún script ejecutado como otro usuario.

Saludos,

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Re: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

2012-06-01 Thread Alfonso Egea Callejas

El 01/06/12, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:

 Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y carpetas
 que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna forma lo puedo
 hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo que quiero borrar
 no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin embargo vuelvo al
 escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el escritorio me da un mensaje
 que dice:

 No such file o directory

Hola,

Estás segur@ de que estás en el directorio Escritorio (o Desktop) de
TU usuario (no el de root)?

Podrías hacer en un terminal:

$ cd; pwd; ls -la Desktop

y escribir aquí la salida. Lo que hace es ir a tu directorio personal
(por defecto /home/usuario), mostrar la ruta y listar el contenido
incluyendo ficheros ocultos y los propietarios y permisos de cada
fichero.

Saludos!

PD: otra cosa que se me ocurre es que el nombre de fichero contenga
algún carácter no permitido, a veces he tenido problemas con
ficheros que venían de Windows. En cualquier caso publica la salida de
lo que te comentaba para tener más detalles.

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Problemas con Adjuntos


Colegas:

Estoy presentando un problema con los adjuntos.

En mi  topologia tengo un servidor de correo en la LAN, y uno en una DMZ 
que hace la funcion de Relay, tanto para mi como para 15 subdominios que 
tengo, todos externos, o sea que fisicamente no estan en mi empresa.


Este relay es simplemente un postfix, sin filtro de contenidos, ni 
amavisd, ni spamassasing ni nada parecido, o sea, un simple smtp.


En el servidor de la LAN, tengo un postfix+dovecot+ldap y un Mailman 
para las listas.


Tengo listas que incluyen usuarios de mi dominio principal 
servi.cupet.cu, y usuarios de mis subdominios, ejemplo 
pri.servi.cupet.cu, o scu.servi.cupet.cu.


El problema consiste en que en ocasiones, los adjuntos no llegan a todos 
los usuarios.


OJO: Le llegan a todos los de mi dominio principal y a algunos de mis 
subdominios, no ha todos. El cuerpo del mensaje llega OK, pero se come 
el adjunto en algun lugar.


El servidor de la LAN, o sea el principal si tiene amavisd+spamassasing


Me ha pasado especificamente con .doc y .xls.


Ya he revisado los Logs de /var/mail.log, y mail.err.

No me queda que hacer y definitivamente esta creando malestar entre mis 
usuarios, incluido el Director General, jajajajaja



Salu2s


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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

Descarto el Mailman porque trate de envierme el adjunto de otro usuario 
a mi y dio el mismo problema.



Por si ayuda, lo que me vine como adjunto es un winmail.dat, voy a 
googlear mientras responden a ver si aparece algo sobre esta nueva pista.



On 01/06/12 12:32, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes wrote:

Colegas:

Estoy presentando un problema con los adjuntos.

En mi  topologia tengo un servidor de correo en la LAN, y uno en una 
DMZ que hace la funcion de Relay, tanto para mi como para 15 
subdominios que tengo, todos externos, o sea que fisicamente no estan 
en mi empresa.


Este relay es simplemente un postfix, sin filtro de contenidos, ni 
amavisd, ni spamassasing ni nada parecido, o sea, un simple smtp.


En el servidor de la LAN, tengo un postfix+dovecot+ldap y un Mailman 
para las listas.


Tengo listas que incluyen usuarios de mi dominio principal 
servi.cupet.cu, y usuarios de mis subdominios, ejemplo 
pri.servi.cupet.cu, o scu.servi.cupet.cu.


El problema consiste en que en ocasiones, los adjuntos no llegan a 
todos los usuarios.


OJO: Le llegan a todos los de mi dominio principal y a algunos de mis 
subdominios, no ha todos. El cuerpo del mensaje llega OK, pero se come 
el adjunto en algun lugar.


El servidor de la LAN, o sea el principal si tiene amavisd+spamassasing


Me ha pasado especificamente con .doc y .xls.


Ya he revisado los Logs de /var/mail.log, y mail.err.

No me queda que hacer y definitivamente esta creando malestar entre 
mis usuarios, incluido el Director General, jajajajaja



Salu2s


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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

El Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:46:09 -0400, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes escribió:

 On 01/06/12 12:32, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes wrote:
 Colegas:

 Estoy presentando un problema con los adjuntos.

(...)

 Descarto el Mailman porque trate de envierme el adjunto de otro usuario
 a mi y dio el mismo problema.

¿Dices que al enviar un mensaje con adjunto (.xls o .doc) directamente, 
de usuario a usuario, sin pasar por la lista de correo, falla de igual 
forma?

 Por si ayuda, lo que me vine como adjunto es un winmail.dat, voy a
 googlear mientras responden a ver si aparece algo sobre esta nueva
 pista.

Eso suena a problema con el cliente de correo (¿usáis Outlook, quizá?). 

Prueba a enviar los archivos adjuntos desde un cliente de correo normal 
y prueba a recibirlos desde otro cliente de correo normal (p. ej., 
Thunderbird o Evolution) a ver si sigues viendo winmail.dats por ahí...

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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

Mira, de más está decir que yo uso un cliente de correos normal, 
Thunderbird, si no estuviese preguntando en la lista de los windopatas, 
jajajajjaa.


Ok, era una broma no lo tomes a mal.

Si, yo uso thunder, pero el 95% de mis clientes usan Outlook, y los 
correos de los que hablo fueron originados desde outlook. No puedo 
cambiarle el ciente a mas de 300 usuarios. La soluciòn debe ser otra. No 
entiendo por que a unos les llega y a otros no.




On 01/06/12 12:55, Camaleón wrote:

El Fri, 01 Jun 2012 12:46:09 -0400, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes escribió:


On 01/06/12 12:32, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes wrote:

Colegas:

Estoy presentando un problema con los adjuntos.

(...)


Descarto el Mailman porque trate de envierme el adjunto de otro usuario
a mi y dio el mismo problema.

¿Dices que al enviar un mensaje con adjunto (.xls o .doc) directamente,
de usuario a usuario, sin pasar por la lista de correo, falla de igual
forma?


Por si ayuda, lo que me vine como adjunto es un winmail.dat, voy a
googlear mientras responden a ver si aparece algo sobre esta nueva
pista.

Eso suena a problema con el cliente de correo (¿usáis Outlook, quizá?).

Prueba a enviar los archivos adjuntos desde un cliente de correo normal
y prueba a recibirlos desde otro cliente de correo normal (p. ej.,
Thunderbird o Evolution) a ver si sigues viendo winmail.dats por ahí...

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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos



Prueba a enviar los archivos adjuntos desde un cliente de correo 
normal

y prueba a recibirlos desde otro cliente de correo normal (p. ej.,
Thunderbird o Evolution) a ver si sigues viendo winmail.dats por 
ahí...


Saludos,




Mira, tambien me he percatado que esto pasa con solo 2 o 3 remitentes, o 
sea que esta focalizado, probare unas soluciones en la pagina madre de 
los windopatas, que dice que eso pasa cuando escribes los correos en 
formato enrriquecido. No pasa con Solo texto o con Html, pero si con RTF 
que es para microsoft exchange, y si los clientes no lo soportan no lo leen.


Veamos a ver si es eso, pero no me dejen desamparado, sigan 
proponiendome soluciones.


Salu2s

Gilbe


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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

El Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:02:48 -0400, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes escribió:

(responde debajo...)

 On 01/06/12 12:55, Camaleón wrote:

 Prueba a enviar los archivos adjuntos desde un cliente de correo
 normal y prueba a recibirlos desde otro cliente de correo normal
 (p. ej., Thunderbird o Evolution) a ver si sigues viendo winmail.dats
 por ahí...

 Mira, de más está decir que yo uso un cliente de correos normal,
 Thunderbird, si no estuviese preguntando en la lista de los windopatas,
 jajajajjaa.
 
 Ok, era una broma no lo tomes a mal.
 
 Si, yo uso thunder, pero el 95% de mis clientes usan Outlook, y los
 correos de los que hablo fueron originados desde outlook. No puedo
 cambiarle el ciente a mas de 300 usuarios. La soluciòn debe ser otra. No
 entiendo por que a unos les llega y a otros no.

Pues entonces ya sabes dónde está el problema ;-)

A ver, te digo un truquillo para los Outlooks (que yo también los he 
tenido que usar, de hecho quitando algunas cosillas me parece un cliente 
de correo muy potente y configurable...). Para evitar que mande los 
adjuntos como winmail.dat configura en todos los clientes (en dos 
primero para probar) estas dos opciones:

1/ Formato para el envío de correos como HTML (que no use el editor de 
Word) o texto.

2/ Codificar texto usando base64 para todos los correos.

Si aún así no te libras de los famosos winmail.dat aún me queda otro 
truco en la manga pero requiere edición del registro de windows y sólo es 
válido para versiones modernicas del Oulook (2003/2007/2010). Avisa.

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Re: OT: Configuración visual aplicaciones Gnome

2012-06-01 Thread JAP

El jue, 31-05-2012 a las 15:16 -0400, Felix Perez escribió:

 Hola Javier has logrado solucionar el problema?
 yo estoy en xcfe y testing , e intentado modificar lo que indican en
 este mismo post y nada.  Las últimas actualizaciones no aportan nada.
 
 Gracias y disculpa por el privado.
 
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Pero como ya dije, son los riesgos de usar testing, así que como decía
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Re: Evitar descargas de imagenes en apache2 debian

2012-06-01 Thread Marc Olive

On Thursday 31 May 2012 19:43:01 Maykel Franco Hernández wrote:
 Hola muy buenas, necesito evitar que se descarguen las imágenes de
 una cierta carpeta. No me refiero a no listarlas con el Options
 -Indexes, sino que no se puedan descargar. Que el directorio se liste
 pero no se puedan descargar. Estoy buscando documentación pero sólo
 encuentro el Options -Indexes.
 
 Saludos y gracias de antemano.

¿Por listar un directorio te refieres a mostrar el nombre de los archivos?
Si es así, impide el acceso al directorio y pon este script o similar en su 
lugar (por ejemplo):

?php

foreach( $file in scandir('directorio_a_leer') )
echo $file;

?

Si lo que quieres es permitir que vean las imagenes en el navegador pero que 
no puedan descargarlas, entonces es imposible (se puede capturar la pantalla).

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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

2012-06-01 Thread Ramses

Buenas,

El 01/06/2012, a las 19:13, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:

 El Fri, 01 Jun 2012 13:02:48 -0400, Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes escribió:
 
 (responde debajo...)
 
 On 01/06/12 12:55, Camaleón wrote:
 
 Prueba a enviar los archivos adjuntos desde un cliente de correo
 normal y prueba a recibirlos desde otro cliente de correo normal
 (p. ej., Thunderbird o Evolution) a ver si sigues viendo winmail.dats
 por ahí...
 
 Mira, de más está decir que yo uso un cliente de correos normal,
 Thunderbird, si no estuviese preguntando en la lista de los windopatas,
 jajajajjaa.
 
 Ok, era una broma no lo tomes a mal.
 
 Si, yo uso thunder, pero el 95% de mis clientes usan Outlook, y los
 correos de los que hablo fueron originados desde outlook. No puedo
 cambiarle el ciente a mas de 300 usuarios. La soluciòn debe ser otra. No
 entiendo por que a unos les llega y a otros no.
 
 Pues entonces ya sabes dónde está el problema ;-)
 
 A ver, te digo un truquillo para los Outlooks (que yo también los he 
 tenido que usar, de hecho quitando algunas cosillas me parece un cliente 
 de correo muy potente y configurable...). Para evitar que mande los 
 adjuntos como winmail.dat configura en todos los clientes (en dos 
 primero para probar) estas dos opciones:
 
 1/ Formato para el envío de correos como HTML (que no use el editor de 
 Word) o texto.
 
 2/ Codificar texto usando base64 para todos los correos.
 
 Si aún así no te libras de los famosos winmail.dat aún me queda otro 
 truco en la manga pero requiere edición del registro de windows y sólo es 
 válido para versiones modernicas del Oulook (2003/2007/2010). Avisa.

Yo, en el curro, por llevar la contraria, y probar otro cliente distinto a 
Outlook, uso Thunderbird, y, en ocasiones, cuando me mandan un correo con un 
adjunto, desde un Outlook, me pasa exactamente lo mismo...


Saludos,

Ramses

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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

2012-06-01 Thread Matías Bellone

2012/6/1 Gilberto Luis Diaz Valdes gi...@servi.cupet.cu:
 Descarto el Mailman porque trate de envierme el adjunto de otro usuario a mi
 y dio el mismo problema.


 Por si ayuda, lo que me vine como adjunto es un winmail.dat, voy a googlear
 mientras responden a ver si aparece algo sobre esta nueva pista.


El problema es la configuración del que envía el correo. Outlook lo
envía como Texto Enriquecido y eso hace que los adjuntos vayan en un
formato que sólo sabe leer Outlook nativamente.

Otros clientes lo ven como un adjunto que siempre se llama
winmail.dat. Y que puedes descargar y decodificar utilizando la
aplicación tnef en cualquier debian

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Re: Problemas con Adjuntos

El Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:20:52 +0200, Ramses escribió:

(...)
 
 Si aún así no te libras de los famosos winmail.dat aún me queda otro
 truco en la manga pero requiere edición del registro de windows y sólo
 es válido para versiones modernicas del Oulook (2003/2007/2010).
 Avisa.
 
 Yo, en el curro, por llevar la contraria, y probar otro cliente distinto
 a Outlook, uso Thunderbird, y, en ocasiones, cuando me mandan un correo
 con un adjunto, desde un Outlook, me pasa exactamente lo mismo...

Sí, es un problema harto conocido. Quienes usamos Outlook desde hace años 
y/o tenemos que dar soporte a este cliente de correo conocemos bien sus 
fechorías :-)

A mí me gusta, es uno de mis clientes de correo preferidos (cierto es que 
he sido más feliz con kmail 3.5 y ahora con Thunderbird) pero tiene 
fallos muy serios en su diseño base como por ejemplo, almacenar todo 
(mensajes, cuentas, contactos, calendario, notas, tareas...) en un 
archivo único PST. Es una locura, se corrompe con mucha facilidad y si 
almacenas muchos datos se vuelve inmanejable (y no les digas a los 
usuarios que archiven o compacten los correos porque no lo hacen).

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Re: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

2012-06-01 Thread Angel Claudio Alvarez

El vie, 01-06-2012 a las 11:19 -0400, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:
 Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y carpetas
 que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna forma lo puedo
 hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo que quiero borrar
 no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin embargo vuelvo al
 escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el escritorio me da un mensaje
 que dice:
 
 No such file o directory
 

Te equivocaste de lista
 Alguna solución

Preguntar en la lista correcta
 
 



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Re: Duda sobre montaje de usb en Wheezy

2012-06-01 Thread Santiago López Denazis

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El 01/06/12 23:45, Darío escribió:
 Hola lista, esoty con un problema al querer usar en un usb en mi
 nueva notebook, es una Asus X44H, a la misma le instalé Debian
 Wheezy con LXDE. El problema está al conectar el dispositivo que no
 lo detecta de forma automática como sí me ocurre en la PC con
 Debian Squeeze, incluso en el /etc/fstab de esta última no tengo
 ninguna línea referida al usb directamente lo monta como si nada
 en /media/etiqueta_del_usb/. (...) La verdad que no sé que puede
 ser, dudo que tenga que ver con fstab porque en Squeeze nni lo
 nombro.
 
 Saludos
 

  Revisa s te sirve este enlace [1].
  Saludos.

[1] http://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs

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Re: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

2012-06-01 Thread Felix Perez

El día 1 de junio de 2012 18:44, Angel Claudio Alvarez
an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:
 El vie, 01-06-2012 a las 11:19 -0400, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:
 Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y carpetas
 que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna forma lo puedo
 hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo que quiero borrar
 no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin embargo vuelvo al
 escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el escritorio me da un mensaje
 que dice:

 No such file o directory


 Te equivocaste de lista
 Alguna solución

 Preguntar en la lista correcta

Pero si esta en la lista correcta!

debian-user-spanish-pregunta-lo-que-...@lists.debian.org

Este último tiempo eso parece.


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RE: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos

2012-06-01 Thread enodisarpiz

 -Mensaje original-
 De: Felix Perez [mailto:felix.listadeb...@gmail.com]
 Enviado el: sábado, 02 de junio de 2012 01:19 a.m.
 Para: lista-debian
 Asunto: Re: No puedo borrar carpetas y archivos
 
 El día 1 de junio de 2012 18:44, Angel Claudio Alvarez
 an...@angel-alvarez.com.ar escribió:
  El vie, 01-06-2012 a las 11:19 -0400, acade...@pinarte.cult.cu escribió:
  Hola, quisiera que alguien me dijera cómo puedo borrar archivos y
carpetas
  que he puesto en mi escritorio de Ubuntu 10.04. De ninguna forma lo
puedo
  hacer, he entrado como root a /home/usuario/Desktop y lo que quiero
borrar
  no aparece, pongo ver archivos ocultos y nada. Sin embargo vuelvo al
  escritorio y están ahí. Al borrarlos desde el escritorio me da un
mensaje
  que dice:
 
  No such file o directory
 
 
  Te equivocaste de lista
  Alguna solución
 
  Preguntar en la lista correcta
 
 Pero si esta en la lista correcta!
 
 debian-user-spanish-pregunta-lo-que-...@lists.debian.org
 
 Este último tiempo eso parece.

+1

 
 
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Re: Duda sobre montaje de usb en Wheezy

2012-06-01 Thread Raúl Armenta

El 02/06/2012 05:31, Santiago López Denazis sldena...@gmail.com
escribió:

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 El 01/06/12 23:45, Darío escribió:
  Hola lista, esoty con un problema al querer usar en un usb en mi
  nueva notebook, es una Asus X44H, a la misma le instalé Debian
  Wheezy con LXDE. El problema está al conectar el dispositivo que no
  lo detecta de forma automática como sí me ocurre en la PC con
  Debian Squeeze, incluso en el /etc/fstab de esta última no tengo
  ninguna línea referida al usb directamente lo monta como si nada
  en /media/etiqueta_del_usb/. (...) La verdad que no sé que puede
  ser, dudo que tenga que ver con fstab porque en Squeeze nni lo
  nombro.
 
  Saludos
 

  Revisa s te sirve este enlace [1].
  Saludos.

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RE: Erro ao instalar smbclient

2012-06-01 Thread Darley Rovaris da Silva


Adicionei o repositório o resultado foi esse:
ldcser:/home/rovaris# apt-get updateIgn http://www.backports.org 
lenny-backports Release.gpgIgn http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main 
Translation-pt_BRIgn http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib 
Translation-pt_BRIgn http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free 
Translation-pt_BRIgn http://www.backports.org lenny-backports ReleaseIgn 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main PackagesIgn 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib PackagesIgn 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free PackagesIgn 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main PackagesIgn 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib PackagesIgn 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free PackagesErr 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages  301 Moved Permanently 
[IP: 206.12.19.9 80]Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib 
Packages  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]Err 
http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages  301 Moved 
Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]W: Falhou ao buscar 
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
W: Falhou ao buscar 
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
W: Falhou ao buscar 
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
E: Alguns arquivos de Ãndice falharam para baixar, eles foram ignorados ou os 
antigos foram usados no lugar.
Pelo que li, esse repositório funcionaria se eu estivesse usando uma versão 
estável do Debian e se eu não quisesse migrar para uma versão mais nova, de 
teste, por conta dos aplicativos mais atuais eu conseguiria instalar esse 
pacotes de aplicativos mais recentes nessa versão estável, mais antiga. Não 
seria isso?
O Debian Lenny que estou usando está descontinuado, não tem mais qualquer tipo 
de atualização, não seria por isso que o apt-get update falhou?

Darley Rovaris 
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From: profsilve...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:39:28 -0300
Subject: Re: Erro ao instalar smbclient
To: darle...@hotmail.com
CC: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org

Olá,
tive o mesmo problema a um tempo atrás, como faço um mapeamento dos problemas, 
resolvi com o link abaixo.

ativando lenny-backports


http://www.hardware.com.br/tutoriais/debian-desktop/pagina3.html



abraços..



Em 30 de maio de 2012 11:37, Darley Rovaris da Silva darle...@hotmail.com 
escreveu:


libwbclient0

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Re: Erro ao instalar smbclient

2012-06-01 Thread Dane


Bom dia Darkey.

O repositório do Lenny saiu de uso.

Por isto mesmo que da este erro.



Em 01-06-2012 10:43, Darley Rovaris da Silva escreveu:

Adicionei o repositório o resultado foi esse:

ldcser:/home/rovaris# apt-get update
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release.gpg
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Translation-pt_BR
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Translation-pt_BR
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Translation-pt_BR
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
W: Falhou ao buscar 
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages 
 301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]


W: Falhou ao buscar 
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages 
 301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]


W: Falhou ao buscar 
http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages 
 301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]


E: Alguns arquivos de Ãndice falharam para baixar, eles foram 
ignorados ou os antigos foram usados no lugar.


Pelo que li, esse repositório funcionaria se eu estivesse usando uma 
versão estável do Debian e se eu não quisesse migrar para uma versão 
mais nova, de teste, por conta dos aplicativos mais atuais eu 
conseguiria instalar esse pacotes de aplicativos mais recentes nessa 
versão estável, mais antiga. Não seria isso?


O Debian Lenny que estou usando está descontinuado, não tem mais 
qualquer tipo de atualização, não seria por isso que o apt-get update 
falhou?



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From: profsilve...@gmail.com
Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:39:28 -0300
Subject: Re: Erro ao instalar smbclient
To: darle...@hotmail.com
CC: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org

Olá,
tive o mesmo problema a um tempo atrás, como faço um mapeamento dos 
problemas, resolvi com o link abaixo.


ativando lenny-backports


http://www.hardware.com.br/tutoriais/debian-desktop/pagina3.html

abraços..



Em 30 de maio de 2012 11:37, Darley Rovaris da Silva 
darle...@hotmail.com mailto:darle...@hotmail.com escreveu:


libwbclient0




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Re: Erro ao instalar smbclient

2012-06-01 Thread Leandro C. Marques

Bom dia Darley, como disse a amiga, o repositório do lenny saiu do ar, mas
ele foi arquivado assim como versões anteriores. Tenta usar este
repositório:
deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ lenny contrib main non-free

Em 1 de junho de 2012 10:54, Dane d...@atua.com.br escreveu:

  Bom dia Darkey.

 O repositório do Lenny saiu de uso.

 Por isto mesmo que da este erro.



 Em 01-06-2012 10:43, Darley Rovaris da Silva escreveu:

  Adicionei o repositório o resultado foi esse:

  ldcser:/home/rovaris# apt-get update
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release.gpg
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Translation-pt_BR
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Translation-pt_BR
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Translation-pt_BR
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports Release
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
 Ign http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
 Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/main Packages
   301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
 Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/contrib Packages
   301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
 Err http://www.backports.org lenny-backports/non-free Packages
   301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]
 W: Falhou ao buscar
 http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/main/binary-amd64/Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]

  W: Falhou ao buscar
 http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/contrib/binary-amd64/Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]

  W: Falhou ao buscar
 http://www.backports.org/debian/dists/lenny-backports/non-free/binary-amd64/Packages
  301 Moved Permanently [IP: 206.12.19.9 80]

  E: Alguns arquivos de Ãndice falharam para baixar, eles foram ignorados
 ou os antigos foram usados no lugar.

  Pelo que li, esse repositório funcionaria se eu estivesse usando uma
 versão estável do Debian e se eu não quisesse migrar para uma versão mais
 nova, de teste, por conta dos aplicativos mais atuais eu conseguiria
 instalar esse pacotes de aplicativos mais recentes nessa versão estável,
 mais antiga. Não seria isso?

  O Debian Lenny que estou usando está descontinuado, não tem mais
 qualquer tipo de atualização, não seria por isso que o apt-get update
 falhou?


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  From: profsilve...@gmail.com
 Date: Thu, 31 May 2012 23:39:28 -0300
 Subject: Re: Erro ao instalar smbclient
 To: darle...@hotmail.com
 CC: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org

 Olá,
 tive o mesmo problema a um tempo atrás, como faço um mapeamento dos
 problemas, resolvi com o link abaixo.

 ativando lenny-backports


 http://www.hardware.com.br/tutoriais/debian-desktop/pagina3.html

 abraços..



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  escreveu:

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Bonhour-avahi

2012-06-01 Thread Anderson Bertling

Boa tarde!

Estou tentando reconfigurar meu servidor de arquivos (samba) e meu servidor
cups para que os mac's acessem mais facilmente ao samba e ao cups, mas nao
estou achando uma documentação ou how to a esse respeito.
Minha duvida é como fica a configuração pois para que o usuarios em win ou
linux possa imprimir ele deve se logar com o usuário e senha do samba.

Alguem já fez essa configuração ?


Desde ja fico grato por qualquer ajuda




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Re: Bonhour-avahi

2012-06-01 Thread Fábio Rabelo

Boa tarde ...

Eu acho que o Sr. está indo na direção errada ...

Primeiro, que versão de MAC OS ?

E em segundo, pesquise sobre netatalk ..

E por último, as versões recentes do MAC OS ( Leopard em diante ) podem
enchergar o cups diretamente, sem a necessidade de nenhum outro serviço,
pesquise sobre isto tb ...

Depois retorne com perguntas mais específicas sobre qualquer problema
encontrado, caso rste algum ...


Fábio Rabelo



Em 1 de junho de 2012 13:48, Anderson Bertling
andersonbertl...@gmail.comescreveu:

 Boa tarde!

 Estou tentando reconfigurar meu servidor de arquivos (samba) e meu
 servidor cups para que os mac's acessem mais facilmente ao samba e ao cups,
 mas nao estou achando uma documentação ou how to a esse respeito.
 Minha duvida é como fica a configuração pois para que o usuarios em win ou
 linux possa imprimir ele deve se logar com o usuário e senha do samba.

 Alguem já fez essa configuração ?


 Desde ja fico grato por qualquer ajuda




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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-06-01 Thread Rodolfo

kk


Tem que testar =D, se eu tivesse o GIMP instalado até testaria para você,
vou ver o que faço com esses comandos ai, depois posto o resultado da merda
que eu fiz xD

Em 31 de maio de 2012 16:07, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Só uma dúvida a respeitdo disso
 Pra onde eu mando meu currículo se isso der errado no computador do
 chefe?? rsrsrsrs

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 *Cc:* debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 15:58

 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Tava procurando o manpages do DPKG aqui no trampo, aqui nao uso linux,
 achei um traduzido pra te ajudar, tem a opção --force-all : Liga (ou
 desliga) todas as opções de força.

 so tome cuidado, ja to com medo, hehehehe


 Segue o link pra te ajudar na remoção:

 http://man.cx/dpkg(8)/pt


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 14:53, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?


 Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:

 dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

   Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
 Olha o resultado:
 *dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
 gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
 dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
 problemas de dependência - não removendo
 Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
  gimp*

 Também não deu!!!

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 *Para:* Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
 *Cc:* debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

  Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o
 Gimp ?


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:

 gimp-data
 libbabl-0.0-0
 libgegl-0.0-0
 libgimp2.0
 libmng1
 libopenraw1

 A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento
 de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas dependências
 as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender de escolhas do
 mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.

 Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote evolution
 apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que pude compreender
 há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam bibliotecas do Evolution,
 por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O efeito colateral, é que apesar de
 não usar o Evolution, não posso removê-lo de meu sistema.

 Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

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Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

2012-06-01 Thread Rodolfo

Cleber, eu testei aqui no meu notebook.


apt-get remove totem e ele disse que iria remover o gnome-core e o totem.

Usei o comando dpkg --force-all -P totem, e ele só removeu o totem.

Tu tem que testar ai, acho que da certo, so que é melhor tu criar uma
imagem desse teu sistema, por em outro PC e testar.


Abraços.



Em 31 de maio de 2012 16:07, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

 Só uma dúvida a respeitdo disso
 Pra onde eu mando meu currículo se isso der errado no computador do
 chefe?? rsrsrsrs

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 *Para:* Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.br
 *Cc:* debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 15:58

 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

 Tava procurando o manpages do DPKG aqui no trampo, aqui nao uso linux,
 achei um traduzido pra te ajudar, tem a opção --force-all : Liga (ou
 desliga) todas as opções de força.

 so tome cuidado, ja to com medo, hehehehe


 Segue o link pra te ajudar na remoção:

 http://man.cx/dpkg(8)/pt


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 14:53, Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Não tem 1 parametro do dpkg que força a remoção ?


 Tenta assim e ve se ajuda:

 dpkg --force-depends -r PACOTE


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 12:13, Cleber Ianes cleberia...@yahoo.com.brescreveu:

   Bem pensado, rsrs, tentativa feita
 Olha o resultado:
 *dpkg: problemas de dependência impedem a remoção de gimp:
 gnome depende de gimp (= 2.6).
 dpkg: erro processando gimp (--remove):
 problemas de dependência - não removendo
 Erros foram encontrados durante o processamento de:
  gimp*

 Também não deu!!!

   --
 *De:* Rodolfo rof20...@gmail.com
 *Para:* Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br
 *Cc:* debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 *Enviadas:* Quinta-feira, 31 de Maio de 2012 11:21
 *Assunto:* Re: Remoção do gnome ao tentar remover um programa.

  Eu nunca fiz esse teste, mas será que com o dpkg ele não remove só o
 Gimp ?


 Abraços.

 Em 31 de maio de 2012 09:56, Ednardo Lobo edna...@lobo.eti.br escreveu:

 Em 31-05-2012 09:26, Cleber Ianes escreveu:

 aptitude remove gimp


 Qual Debian está usando?

 Uso aqui o 6.0.5 squeeze e se tento remover o pacote gimp, apenas os
 seguintes adicionais pacotes são removidos automaticamente:

 gimp-data
 libbabl-0.0-0
 libgegl-0.0-0
 libgimp2.0
 libmng1
 libopenraw1

 A experiência que tenho com o Debian tem me mostrado que o gerenciamento
 de dependências é muito inteligente e eficiente. Porém, certas dependências
 as vezes podem parecer insensatas, talvez por não depender de escolhas do
 mantenedor do pacote, mas do desenvolvedor do software.

 Por exemplo, em meu Debian, o pacote gnome depende do pacote evolution
 apesar do inverso parecer ser mais óbvio. Porém, pelo que pude compreender
 há algumas funcionalidades no gnome que utilizam bibliotecas do Evolution,
 por isto a necessidade desta amarração. O efeito colateral, é que apesar de
 não usar o Evolution, não posso removê-lo de meu sistema.

 Talvez em futuras versões isso seja aperfeiçoado.

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Scapa de factura la curent

2012-06-01 Thread articlesmarketing10

Vrei sa stii cum sa scapi de factura la curent? Eu stiu!

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Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system

2012-06-01 Thread Marc Shapiro


On 05/30/2012 01:17 PM, Camaleón wrote:

On Wed, 30 May 2012 18:58:23 +, Rodolfo Medina wrote:


Rodolfo Medinarodolfo.med...@gmail.com  writes:


Camaleónnoela...@gmail.com  writes:

(...)


But why didn't the problem occur before in the past?  It has become
heavy only recently, and the machine is always the same.

I can't tell but your system can't be happy with 216 MB of ram and
running applications such as Iceweasel. Sooner or later it has to
break.

Is it possible that ram has decreased?  Now I noticed that the problem
also occurs running `scanimage'.  I don't remember it ever occurred in
the past!

RAM is always a scarce resource but it cannot physically dissapear ;-)

Anyway, reconsider your current running desktop and aplications; with
less than 512 MB of RAM your system will suffer from constant hicups now
and then if you try to use GNOME or KDE and the so called big
browsers (Firefox/Opera/Chrome...).

Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM),
Firefox takes 99 MiB of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure.

My box was a low end bare bones system and came with only 256MB of RAM.  
That was quite a while ago.  As it got loaded up and programs (like 
browsers) got larger it got slower and slower.  It was amazing what 
adding a second stick with another 1GB did for system performance with 
no changes other than the addition of the RAM.  Since then I have 
replaced the original 256MB sticj with another 1 GB stick, bringing my 
total to 2GB (the max for my current MB).  This has made a world of 
difference!


Marc


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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf

On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 07:53 +0200, Mark Panen wrote:
 On 01/06/2012 07:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
  Hi :)
 
  any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
  stable ;)?
  Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
  cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
  interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
  stability).
 
  Regards,
  Ralf
 
 
 
 Here are some cases which actually make Debian go faster especially the 
 high end ones :-)
 
 http://www.thermaltake.com/chassis.aspx

Thank you,

for my taste they've got a disgusting design.
Regarding to functionality IMO the less movable parts, the less could
vibrate and make noise and the less could get broken. To much angles and
gaps, perhaps this will break shielding. Unneeded folderol
(tautology ;). Due to esthetic I also don't like folderol for my
computer, that is used as a graphic production and audio production tool
http://www.google.de/search?q=Level+10+GTS+Snow
+Editionhl=deprmd=imvnstbm=ischtbo=usource=univsa=Xei=3lzIT4WlF43zsgbFytzsDgved=0CLMBELAEbiw=1152bih=699

IMO 100,-€ is too much for a case, OTOH, if I should find a good case, I
might spend that much money.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf

PS: http://www.thermaltake.com/products-model.aspx?id=C_1220
http://www.google.de/search?hl=deq=WingRS
+200bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbbiw=1152bih=662um=1ie=UTF-8tbm=ischsource=ogsa=Ntab=wiei=3WLIT92DNszSsgbT94TxDg

Those cases seems to be consumer, gamer cases similar to the elCheapo
one I already own. The above case has got a sidewall locking mechanism
as my case has got too. If the case starts to vibrate, caused by the
HDDs, the sidewalls will make noise, since they've got a bad clearance.

I don't need extra fans and I don't want an integrated PSU.
My hardware already is silent, just the case will cause noise and
additionally fixing the cards is a PITA.

Shielding for all modern computers seems to be an issue, not caused by
the cases (only).


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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Chris

The GT Battle edition in green has my vote !

Keep well,
Chris

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From: Mark Panen mark.pa...@gmail.com
Date: Fri, Jun 1, 2012 12:53 am
Subject: Computer case
To: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On 01/06/2012 07:03, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Hi :)

 any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
 stable ;)?
 Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
 cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
 interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
 stability).

 Regards,
 Ralf

Here are some cases which actually make Debian go faster especially the high 
end ones :-)

http://www.thermaltake.com/chassis.aspx

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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Weaver


 Hi :)

 any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
 stable ;)?
 Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
 cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
 interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
 stability).

This is going to be my next box, to be built in the near future:

http://www.techbuy.com.au/p/92735/CoolerMaster/RC-341-KKR4/details.asp

With this board which will carry 8Gb of DDR3, 1600MHz, but if you are
heavily into graphic work, you might need more than that.

Asus M5A78L-M LX PLUS 760G AM3+ 2xDDR3

Along with an AM3+, 3.6GHz CPU, which will be cheaper now AMD have put out
their new line.
I like small boxes as I have enough space on an old ProReliant, next door
in a bigger room, if I need storage. MATX is fine.
Regards,

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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 6/1/2012 12:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Hi :)
 
 any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
 stable ;)?
 Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
 cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
 interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
 stability).

The last workstation case I acquired was one of these:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144140

It's designed for portability (LAN parties), but I bought it because it
has fantastic front to back airflow, is dead silent, is not a mundane
minitower, and the mobo mounts horizontally, thus exp boards mount
vertically.  Thus no lateral gravity load causing bending of exp boards
or tugging on a big heat pipe radiator cooler as with a minitower.

I'm using mobo video but it will take a full length GPU board.  It'll
actually take 4 full length exp boards.

Overall QC isn't what one would expect for a case in this price range,
but I'm very pleased with mine.

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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Patrick Bartek

any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
stable ;)?
Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
stability).


Check Rosewill.  http://www.rosewill.com/

I build this system about 6 years ago and it's still VERY quiet.  120mm case 
and power supply fans. Plus, a large, variable speed CPU fan.  Fanless graphics 
card.  The case fan blows right on it, so there's no need for its own fan.  In 
fact, when I first powered up the system, it was so quiet I thought it wasn't 
running.  And I was sitting right next to it!

Unfortunately, the case has been discontinued, but I'm sure there are others 
that are similar. It's an ATX mid-tower. Plenty of room.

B


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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Ralf Mardorf

Hi all, hi Patrick,

On Fri, 2012-06-01 at 00:55 -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:
 Unfortunately, the case has been discontinued

When I visit people and note that they've got good cases, I usually
don't have the money to order a case. As soon as I've got the money, the
case I wish to order always has been discontinued :D.

Anyway, I appreciate recommendations, to see what cases are used by the
list members, perhaps I missed something I should take care about.

I'll take a look at all recommendations, even if the cases should ship
with something that IMO is folderol, since I might be mistaken with my
opinion.

Regards,
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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Mark Neidorff

On Friday 01 June 2012 1:03:15 am Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 Hi :)
 
 any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
 stable ;)?
 Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
 cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
 interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
 stability).
 
 Regards,
 Ralf

Hello,

Choosing a computer case is a design decision.  First, thing, choose what is 
most important for you.  Here are some suggestions (in no particular order):

Style of case
Air flow
noise
physical size of case
color
type of power supply accommodated
placement of switches
drive bays (number, type and placement)
size and type of motherboard/cpu/cooler accommodated
size and type of video and cooler (if needed) accommodated

The great case could be anything from an Altoids tin for a RaspberryPi (well, 
it won't quite work without some mods, but this is a theoretical discussion 
anyway) to some of the large cases mentioned in some of the responses.  They 
all will work with Debian.

Mark


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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Go Linux

--- On Fri, 6/1/12, Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:

 From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
 Subject: Computer case
 To: debian-user debian-user@lists.debian.org
 Date: Friday, June 1, 2012, 12:03 AM
 Hi :)

 any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with
 Debian
 stable ;)?
 Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However,
 experiences with
 cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for
 cards are
 interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and
 vertical
 stability).

I got an Antec NSK4480 Black ATX Mid Tower 4 years ago because it was quiet and 
sleek black. It has 4 drive bays which comes in very handy - I'm using three.  
Most likely discontinued now but you can check out their online store 
http://store.antec.com/Category/enclosure.aspx to see what's current. 

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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Christopher Judd

On Friday 01 June 2012 06:52:21 Mark Neidorff wrote:
 Hello,
 
 Choosing a computer case is a design decision.  First, thing, choose what
 is  most important for you.  Here are some suggestions (in no particular
 order):
 
 Style of case
 Air flow
 noise
 physical size of case
 color
 type of power supply accommodated
 placement of switches
 drive bays (number, type and placement)
 size and type of motherboard/cpu/cooler accommodated
 size and type of video and cooler (if needed) accommodated
 
 The great case could be anything from an Altoids tin for a RaspberryPi
 (well,  it won't quite work without some mods, but this is a theoretical
 discussion anyway) to some of the large cases mentioned in some of the
 responses.  They all will work with Debian.
 
 Mark

Or you could roll your own:

www.neatorama.com/case-mod

Seriously, one could probably design a case for minimal vibration and good 
airflow without all of the eye candy shown here.

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-06-01 Thread Matthias Guentert

Hello everybody

It happened again, and yes this time I was using nouveau.

# lshw -c video
  *-display
   description: VGA compatible controller
   product: G84 [Quadro FX 1700]
   vendor: nVidia Corporation
   physical id: 0
   bus info: pci@:01:00.0
   version: a1
   width: 64 bits
   clock: 33MHz
   capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
   configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
   resources: irq:16 memory:e200-e2ff
memory:c000-dfff(prefetchable) memory:e000-e1ff
ioport:2000(size=128)

That means I can exclude the video driver from the list of potential
culprits...

/var/log/messages:

Jun  1 14:09:23 celsius kernel: [  657.427962] CE: hpet increasing
min_delta_ns to 40226 nsec
Jun  1 14:38:55 celsius kernel: [ 2429.379636] nautilus: sending ioctl
2285 to a partition!

== reboot

Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: imklog 4.6.4, log source = /proc/kmsg started.
Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd
swVersion=4.6.4 x-pid=1317 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;]
(re)start
Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu

/var/log/debug:

Jun  1 16:41:16 celsius kernel: [ 9770.619675] wlan0: RX AssocResp
from 00:0b:6b:db:1f:f1 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1)
Jun  1 16:41:16 celsius kernel: [ 9770.619679] wlan0: associated

== reboot

Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] e820 update range:
 - 0001 (usable) == (reserved)
Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] MTRR default type: uncachable

Any ideas?


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Re: Virtual interfaces and IPv4/IPv6

On Thu, 31 May 2012 19:57:03 +0200, Stephan Seitz wrote:

 On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 05:27:40PM +, Camaleón wrote:
It seems to be documented in the man page:
http://manpages.debian.net/cgi-bin/man.cgi?query=bridge-utils-
interfacesapropos=0sektion=0manpath=Debian+testing+%28wheezy%
29format=htmllocale=en
 
 Ah, yes, I see it now. I looked in the section bugs/limitations. ;-) But
 the bug number is the same I quoted, and it is from 2005. That’s why I
 asked if there are any plans to fix it for Wheezy (best way in
 ifupdown), because today it may hit more people.

Yes, it's quite old but at least is documented and there's a 
workaround :-)

I would ask directly to the package maintainers for any news on this.

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Setting up the scanner (was: [OT] Re: mp280)

On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:09:19 +0200, steef wrote:

 hi camaleon and others of course,
 
 i installed printer-drivers for the pixma mp280 from a new zealand sit;
 and the scanner drivers too. the mp280_printer is now working well, 

Hey, good to know it worked.

 but squeeze cannot find
   the scanner drivers so xsane sys 'no', do it yourself' and is driving
   me insane.

(...)

Run xsane with root priviledges to discard a permission problem. If that 
works and root can find the scanner and use it, you will have to edit (or 
create if the file is not present) the udev rules to set the right 
permissions for your device.

In the meantime, you can also try to get an image from The GIMP or 
another application that allows capturing from this kind of hardware.
 
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[OT] Re: Computer case

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:03:15 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
 stable ;)?

AFAIK, computer cases are non-OS dependant :-)

 Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. 

No prob, already tagged as such.

 However, experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy
 of fit for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in
 space (and vertical stability).

Micro, mini, mid, full-tower size?

If space is not a concern, I like having plenty of room for adding extra 
devices in the future. Larger cases also allow better refrigeration for 
the components and you can add extra fans. For this kind of enclosures I 
like Chieftec, they make good cases (at the office we have the Bravo BX 
series for workstations, also with Chieftec silent power supplies).

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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 6/1/2012 9:02 AM, Christopher Judd wrote:

 Seriously, one could probably design a case for minimal vibration and good 
 airflow without all of the eye candy shown here.

Panel vibration induced by fans mounted to panels isn't the main noise
problem except in the very cheapest of cases.  It's high frequency
emission from CPU and case fans.  Adding acoustic damping foam to
interior panels will eliminate reflections by absorbing the high
frequencies.  Acoustic damping materials come in a variety of materials,
shapes, densities, and costs.  The most cost effective is the oldest,
egg crate open cell foam.  It's the best and cheapest performer in PC cases.

For example:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=260-516

Spray adhesive for installing the foam panels:
http://www.parts-express.com/pe/showdetl.cfm?Partnumber=340-096

You can easily cut the stuff to size with scissors or a box cutter.  It
crushes down to zero thickness, so you can stuff it in every crack/crevice.

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Re: Slow tape read-write after upgrade

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:48:55 +0400, Yury O. Tabolin wrote:

 On Thu, 31 May 2012 15:39:04 +, Camaleón wrote:
 
   st kernel module seems to be segfaulting. I would try to reproduce
   the error from a clean Squeeze installation to discard a problem
   coming from the upgrade and if it's still present, I'd report it in
   BTS.
 
 
 But not the module st segfaulting, and process scsi_id, that applies
 to the package udev. May be problem is in it? The module st runs
 after loading, but with reduced speed. 

AFAICT, is the st module the one in charge of managing scsi devices for 
tape drives, so scsi_id should just point to something specific I can't 
tell because I'm not a scsi kernel hacker but still seems to be closed 
related.

 Now I compile module st with debug option, here the debug log:

(...)

Good. You can add these log entries to the bug report you open ;-)

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Re: Random system freezes - need your input

2012-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen

On Fri, 1 Jun 2012 16:02:36 +0200, Matthias wrote in message 
cabo4i4zuz_0oeh6oeoz0reo3l2qt6wmwdwzlmdjuts24mjh...@mail.gmail.com:

 Hello everybody
 
 It happened again, and yes this time I was using nouveau.
 
 # lshw -c video
   *-display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: G84 [Quadro FX 1700]
vendor: nVidia Corporation
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@:01:00.0
version: a1
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master
 cap_list rom configuration: driver=nouveau latency=0
resources: irq:16 memory:e200-e2ff
 memory:c000-dfff(prefetchable) memory:e000-e1ff
 ioport:2000(size=128)
 
 That means I can exclude the video driver from the list of potential
 culprits...
 
 /var/log/messages:
 
 Jun  1 14:09:23 celsius kernel: [  657.427962] CE: hpet increasing
 min_delta_ns to 40226 nsec
 Jun  1 14:38:55 celsius kernel: [ 2429.379636] nautilus: sending ioctl
 2285 to a partition!
 
 == reboot
 
 Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: imklog 4.6.4, log source = /proc/kmsg
 started. Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius rsyslogd: [origin software=rsyslogd
 swVersion=4.6.4 x-pid=1317 x-info=http://www.rsyslog.com;]
 (re)start
 Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup
 subsys cpuset Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00]
 Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
 
 /var/log/debug:
 
 Jun  1 16:41:16 celsius kernel: [ 9770.619675] wlan0: RX AssocResp
 from 00:0b:6b:db:1f:f1 (capab=0x431 status=0 aid=1)
 Jun  1 16:41:16 celsius kernel: [ 9770.619679] wlan0: associated
 
 == reboot
 
 Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] e820 update range:
  - 0001 (usable) == (reserved)
 Jun  1 17:48:36 celsius kernel: [0.00] MTRR default type:
 uncachable
 
 Any ideas?
 
 

..bootflags and latency?  We'll probably need more info on 
your current setup with nouveau.


..is this your post?
http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:6SYWe3USA_kJ:kb.datencamp.org/entry/86/+%22product:+G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22configuration:+driver%3Dnouveau%22+%22latency%3D0%22cd=2hl=noct=clnkgl=no

..more hits here:
http://www.google.no/search?ix=acbsourceid=chromeie=UTF-8q=%22product%3A+G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22configuration%3A+driver%3Dnouveau%22+%22latency%3D%22#hl=nosclient=psy-abq=%22G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22nouveau%22oq=%22G84+%5BQuadro+FX+1700%5D%22+%22nouveau%22aq=faqi=aql=gs_l=serp.3...5835.8481.4.9105.9.9.0.0.0.0.138.725.7j1.8.0...0.0.LhOvNp2ShFEpbx=1bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osbfp=2d65dd964f5bcc75ix=acbbiw=1170bih=715

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Re: Random display freezes [was: Less responsive input...blind-typing]

2012-06-01 Thread John Magolske

* John Magolske listm...@b79.net [120525 17:13]:
For a while now I've been experiencing a strange behavior where there
are frequent and regular freezes when typing or issuing commands
in the shell. All of a sudden I'll find myself blind-typing for 3
seconds or so before a backlog of characters burst onto the screen.

Ok, so I opened up htop to look up kill off non-essential daemons,
adjusted vm.dirty_ratio and vm.dirty_background_ratio [1], tried
changing and tuning the IO scheduler [2] (switched from cfq to
deadline) ... all to no avail, still these infernal 3-second freezes.

Although I mentioned in my last email this behavior showed up while
plugged into AC power, it turns out that was the one rare exception.
By and large, I only see these freezes while running on battery. And
it does seem to correlate with the hard disk spinning up. But why
should, for example, scrolling the selector bar up in Mutt require
the hard disk to spin up first? (eg, hold down up-arrow key, nothing
happens, hard disk spins up, THEN the selector bar jumps up 5 lines or
so after a 3-second pause).

I'm thinking this must have to do with the graphics somehow. I'm often
listening to music during all this and I *never* hear the audio skip.

As per `hwinfo --gfxcard` :

Model: Intel Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
Vendor: pci 0x8086 Intel Corporation
Device: pci 0x2a42 Mobile 4 Series Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller
Driver: i915
Driver Modules: drm
Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: i915 is active
Driver Activation Cmd: modprobe i915

Even in doing something as simple as moving the text cursor around
while holding down an arrow key, there'll be these periodic 3-4
second freezes, after which the cursor will jump ahead the distance
it would've traveled in that time. I'm beginning to wonder if this is
just normal behavior that everyone puts up with, but I find that hard
to believe.

I have laptop-mode enabled...maybe try messing around with the settings
in laptop-mode.conf next?

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

[1] An older message about an older kernel (I'm on 3.2.0-2-686-pae),
but the description sounds a lot like what I'm seeing:
http://forum.soft32.com/linux/multi-freezes-current-GIT-ftopict344063.html

tried looking at these too:
http://www.linuxinsight.com/proc_sys_vm_hierarchy.html
http://www.sysxperts.com/home/announce/vmdirtyratioandvmdirtybackgroundratio
http://rackerhacker.com/2008/08/07/reduce-disk-io-for-small-reads-using-memory/

[2] This is about dealing with the interactive performance when
booting from a flash drive (I'm running off a spinning disk),
but has some interesting discussion re tuning the scheduler:
http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=582327threshold=-1commentsort=0mode=nestedno_d2=1cid=23778109

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John

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Re: Disable touchpad with Fn key

On Wed, 30 May 2012 11:06:57 -0700, Riley Paxton wrote:

 Hello, I am trying to configure several of the not-yet configured Fn
 keys on my Netbook, and I need some help with one right now. I want to
 disable the touchpad (mouse) functionality, including buttons and all
 completely when I hit Fn+F3.
 
 I want to disable it in the kernel level (or userspace level) but not
 with Xorg only. For example, I also use gpm with my ttys, so I also want
 it disabled there.

Okay, some hints to disable the touchpad:

1/ Under X, it can be easily toggled off with synclient TouchpadOff=1

2/ With X loaded, I think you'll have to use gpm functionalities. There 
are some settings you can tweak listed at /usr/share/doc/gpm/
README.synaptics.gz.
 
 Well, finally I should mention that the Fn key should be a toggle
 button. So once I press Fn+F3 after it's disabled, I want it to toggle
 back to enabled.

Ufff, that's too much, I mean, making a toggleable button featuring 
multiple states :-P

 The Fn has no software keycode on it's own, it's hard-coded, so when I
 used showkey -s the output was only keycode 191. Any suggestions? What
 utils should I use?

To pair a function key with a preset action it could be useful the set of 
loadkeys/showkey/dumpkeys utilities (sorry that I can't be more precise, 
I never had to configure this).

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Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-01 Thread Lisi

I get the following* if I type about:plugins into my Konqueror location bar.  
I want to get rid of Shockwqave Flash 7, but I simply cannot find a 
file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it.

Has anyone any ideas?

Thanks,
Lisi

*
Plugin  Description  File  Types
  Java Plug-in  Java Plug-in KJAS for Konqueror  kjavaappletviewer.so
  application/x-java-applet - Java Applet (class)
application/x-java-bean - JavaBeans (jar)
  Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 7.0  libklashpart.so
  application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)
  Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102  libflashplayer.so
  application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)
  Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102  flash-mozilla.so
  application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)


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Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-01 Thread steef


Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:09:19 +0200, steef wrote:


hi camaleon and others of course,

i installed printer-drivers for the pixma mp280 from a new zealand sit;
and the scanner drivers too. the mp280_printer is now working well,


Hey, good to know it worked.


but squeeze cannot find
   the scanner drivers so xsane sys 'no', do it yourself' and is driving
   me insane.


(...)

Run xsane with root priviledges to discard a permission problem. If that
works and root can find the scanner and use it, you will have to edit (or
create if the file is not present) the udev rules to set the right
permissions for your device.

In the meantime, you can also try to get an image from The GIMP or
another application that allows capturing from this kind of hardware.

Greetings,


  yes i did that already: starting xsane under root: xsane under root 
did not find the mp280_scanner. so i am stuck i guess. before i conclude that 
definitely i will see into udev.
lsusb gives me -of course, because the machine is printing- the codes of the 
mp280. debian_squeeze sees the machine. it could be a software problem, 
allthough i can find the gimp-scanner plugin and the scanner in /usr/bin and 
/usr/share. i put these files (/usr/share  ) allready in /etc/ld.so.conf 
(sudo ldconfig) but that did not help. should i do something in 
/etc/sane.d/canon_pp.conf??  lsusb gives me:

Bus 001 Device 003: ID 04a9:1746 Canon, Inc.

thanks a lot so far,

steef





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Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-01 Thread steef


Camaleón wrote:

On Thu, 31 May 2012 23:09:19 +0200, steef wrote:
..





hi camaleon: one mote time! in udev i find:

.
quote

#MP280 series
SYSFS{idVendor}==04a9, SYSFS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=666


...

cheers,

steef


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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-01 Thread Claudius Hubig

Hello Lisi,

Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
 file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it.

Did you try something along the lines of

# find /usr -name libklashpart.so
# find /home -name libklashpart.so

(the latter mostly because some browsers keep plugins in the user’s
home directory).

Best regards,

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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-01 Thread Greg Madden



On Friday 01 June 2012 8:23:42 am Lisi wrote:
 I get the following* if I type about:plugins into my Konqueror location
 bar. I want to get rid of Shockwqave Flash 7, but I simply cannot find a
 file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it.

 Has anyone any ideas?

 Thanks,
 Lisi

 *
 Plugin  Description  File  Types
   Java Plug-in  Java Plug-in KJAS for Konqueror  kjavaappletviewer.so
   application/x-java-applet - Java Applet (class)
 application/x-java-bean - JavaBeans (jar)
   Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 7.0  libklashpart.so
   application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
 application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)
   Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102  libflashplayer.so
   application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
 application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)
   Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102  flash-mozilla.so
   application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
 application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)


Looks like multiple install/removes? of   flash. The 'update-lternatives' 
program 
may be confused. You can see what it thinks is going on 
with  'update-alternatives --get-selections'. 

Purging flash packages may fix files left behind.

You an use 'locate' to find the flash.xx.so plugin and delete it, this prevents 
Konqueror from using it, and failing on flash.

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Re: Setting up the scanner

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:28:21 +0200, steef wrote:

 Camaleón wrote:

 hi camaleon: one mote time! in udev i find:
 
 .
 quote
 #MP280 series
 SYSFS{idVendor}==04a9, SYSFS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=666

Mmmm... check if any of this helps:

Canon scanner not detected MP280 (SOLVED)
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42t=76930

Greetings,

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Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread peter

Hello Ralf,

*   From: Ralf Mardorf ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net
*   Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2012 07:03:15 +0200
 ... cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
 interesting for me, ...

For industrial grade equipment, look at Compact PCI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CompactPCI
http://www.compactpci.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PICMG

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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread shawn wilson

On Jun 1, 2012 10:02 AM, Christopher Judd j...@wadsworth.org wrote:


 Or you could roll your own:



 www.neatorama.com/case-mod


Now, that's pretty cool. However, when I buy a new computer, I always just
go with the cheapest case. I mean, I've got a thermaltake case here because
newegg or Amazon were selling them for ~$20 when I was building my machine.
I got some aopen pro line (or whatever they called them - big gray boxes)
but I just don't care to have 1/16 inch thick metal in a case anymore.

I also picked up a spare from the local hacker group a few months ago that
I might use for a new computer if I can't find something better for cheap
at the time. But my philosophy on desktop hardware has changed too - I
might just figure out how to get a board, proc, and ram for $100/ea and
machine something that would fit 10 or 20 of them in a nice (semi
accessible / swopable) container with fans. A home brew blade solution of
sorts.

Re: Computer case

 experiences with cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit
 for cards are interesting for me, others might be interested in space
 (and vertical stability)


Hi,

I found that Lian-Li's cases are carefully built, silent, with good airflow and 
beautiful design (it's brushed aluminium). They have many sizes and 
configurations available.
http://www.lian-li.com/v2/en/product/product.php

I bought three of them so far:

- one PC-A05N midi tower, with two silent 120mm fans. Squeeze :-) is running on
three drives (RAID1 for reliability)
- two PC-Q9 desktop cases for mini-ITX boards. Really nice, small and silent,
but not much space inside: just for a 2.5 drive HD and a slim optical drive. 
On one of these my Foxconn-Intel board didn't fit really smoothly, but it did 
(the space between screws didn't match exactly).

Apart from airflow-grids and -openings, they have no gaps.
Anti-vibration mounting kits for HDDs are included.
And they have plenty of other mounting and expansion kits (but didn't try them).

Hope this helps.

All the best,
Andrew


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Re: Computer case

2012-06-01 Thread Gary Dale


On 01/06/12 01:03 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

Hi :)

any recommendation for a computer case that can be used with Debian
stable ;)?
Ok, it's slightly OT, I'm sorry for that. However, experiences with
cases regarding to noise (and heat), accuracy of fit for cards are
interesting for me, others might be interested in space (and vertical
stability).

Regards,
Ralf



While any case can be used, there are some considerations:
- cooling
  - larger fans are generally quieter
  - do you want liquid cooling?
  - extra fans in front for RAID array?
- convenience
   - exposed 3.5 bays are handy for card readers, extra USB ports, etc.
   - exposed bays for hotswap drives
- layout
  - will the case wires reach the motherboard pinouts?
  - can it handle the video card(s) you want?
- design
  - flat to without fans to allow stacking things on top?
  - slim or fat?


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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-01 Thread Lisi

On Friday 01 June 2012 17:29:07 Claudius Hubig wrote:
 Hello Lisi,

 Lisi lisi.re...@gmail.com wrote:
  file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it.

 Did you try something along the lines of

 # find /usr -name libklashpart.so
 # find /home -name libklashpart.so

 (the latter mostly because some browsers keep plugins in the user’s
 home directory).

 Best regards,

 Claudius


Junior:/home/lisi# find /usr -name libklashpart.so
Junior:/home/lisi# find /home -name libklashpart.so

Junior:/home/lisi#
Junior:/home/lisi#

:-(

Thanks, Claudius.

Lisi


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ad-hoc wireless connection with Netgear N150 USB adapter


Hello,

I'm submitting a problem regarding a wireless connection (ad-hoc) 
between two computers using both a Netgear N150 WMA1000M USB adapter 
(rtl8192cu chipset). Setup seem to be correct (I can detect my 
neighbor's networks) but pinging and trying to ssh between my two 
machines gives no result, in neither direction. Each computer can ping 
to itself. I searched a lot on the Internet, I noticed that others have 
a quite similar problem but I couldn't find an answer, so I'm posting 
here :-)


More information on my setup:

- Debian Squeeze 6.0.5, kernel 3.2 (bpo)
   - machine#1: Pentium4 2.66GHz, kernel 686
   - machine#2: Celeron Core 2x2.4GHz, kernel amd64
- firmware-realtek 0.35 (bpo) installed
- wireless-tools installed
- firewalls are down, I also disabled all wired connections
- both modules rtl-8192cu and ath9k_htc seem to work
- no WPA enabled
- the machines are close to each other (just one brick wall in between)
- yes, I also tried with no brick walls in between, using a laptop with 
the same N150 adapter - and with the same result


I'm posting more details below.

Is it an incorrect setup on my part, or maybe a hardware issue?
Any suggestion will be really appreciated.

Thank you,
Andrew


P.S. Sorry for my non native english


-

# /etc/network/interfaces
-
[machine#1]
  auto wlan0
  iface wlan0 inet static
   address 192.168.15.2
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   wireless-mode ad-hoc
   wireless-channel 7
   wireless-essid wlnxnetwork
[machine#2]
  auto wlan0
  iface wlan0 inet static
   address 192.168.15.2
   netmask 255.255.255.0
   wireless-mode ad-hoc
   wireless-channel 7
   wireless-essid wlnxnetwork

~# hwinfo --usb
---
[snip]
10: USB 00.0:  Unclassified device
  [Created at usb.122]
  UDI: /org/freedesktop/Hal/devices/usb_device_846_9041_00e04c01_if0
  Unique ID: 6Vab.2GCN8NqTrPB
  Parent ID: PYMB.WvppkBPnhU7
  SysFS ID: /devices/pci:00/:00:1d.2/usb4/4-1/4-1.4/4-1.4:1.0
  SysFS BusID: 4-1.4:1.0
  Hardware Class: unknown
  Model: NetGear 802.11n WLAN Adapter
  Hotplug: USB
  Vendor: usb 0x0846 NetGear, Inc.
  Device: usb 0x9041 802.11n WLAN Adapter
  Revision: 2.00
  Serial ID: 00e04c01
  Driver: rtl8192cu
  Driver Modules: rtl8192cu
  Device File: wlan0
  Speed: 12 Mbps
  HW Address: 4c:60:de:5c:56:59
  Link detected: no
  Module Alias: usb:v0846p9041d0200dc00dsc00dp00icFFiscFFipFF
  Driver Info #0:
Driver Status: rtl8192cu is active
Driver Activation Cmd: modprobe rtl8192cu
  Config Status: cfg=new, avail=yes, need=no, active=unknown
[snip]

~# ifup wlan0
-
[/var/log/syslog]
[snip]
Jun  1 17:01:56 debmachine kernel: [ 4070.586552] rtl8192cu: MAC auto ON 
okay!
Jun  1 17:01:57 debmachine kernel: [ 4070.845527] rtl8192cu: Tx queue 
select: 0x05
Jun  1 17:01:57 debmachine kernel: [ 4070.849538] rtl8192c_common: 
Loading firmware file rtlwifi/rtl8192cufw.bin
Jun  1 17:01:57 debmachine avahi-daemon[1865]: Joining mDNS multicast 
group on interface wlan0.IPv4 with address 192.168.15.3.
Jun  1 17:01:57 debmachine avahi-daemon[1865]: New relevant interface 
wlan0.IPv4 for mDNS.
Jun  1 17:01:57 debmachine avahi-daemon[1865]: Registering new address 
record for 192.168.15.3 on wlan0.IPv4.
Jun  1 17:01:57 debmachine kernel: [ 4071.513687] wlan0: Trigger new 
scan to find an IBSS to join
Jun  1 17:01:58 debmachine avahi-daemon[1865]: Joining mDNS multicast 
group on interface wlan0.IPv6 with address fe80::4e60:deff:fe5c:5659.
Jun  1 17:01:58 debmachine avahi-daemon[1865]: New relevant interface 
wlan0.IPv6 for mDNS.
Jun  1 17:01:58 debmachine avahi-daemon[1865]: Registering new address 
record for fe80::4e60:deff:fe5c:5659 on wlan0.*.
Jun  1 17:02:00 debmachine kernel: [ 4073.663775] wlan0: Trigger new 
scan to find an IBSS to join
Jun  1 17:02:02 debmachine kernel: [ 4075.813877] wlan0: Trigger new 
scan to find an IBSS to join
Jun  1 17:02:04 debmachine kernel: [ 4078.168935] wlan0: Trigger new 
scan to find an IBSS to join
Jun  1 17:02:05 debmachine kernel: [ 4078.680978] wlan0: Creating new 
IBSS network, BSSID 46:68:c6:ee:2b:5b
Jun  1 17:02:07 debmachine kernel: [ 4081.568018] wlan0: no IPv6 routers 
present


~# iwconfig wlan0
-
wlan0 IEEE 802.11bgn  ESSID:wlnxnetwork
  Mode:Ad-Hoc  Frequency:2.442 GHz  Cell: 46:68:C6:EE:2B:5B
  Tx-Power=20 dBm
  Retry  long limit:7   RTS thr=2347 B   Fragment thr:off
  Encryption key:off
  Power Management:on

~# iwlist wlan0 scan

wlan0 Scan completed :
  Cell 01 - Address: 46:68:C6:EE:2B:5B
Channel:7
Frequency:2.442 GHz (Channel 7)
Quality=70/70  Signal level=0 dBm
Encryption key:off
ESSID:wlnxnetwork
Bit Rates:1 Mb/s; 2 Mb/s; 5.5 Mb/s; 11 Mb/s; 6 Mb/s
  9 Mb/s; 12 Mb/s; 18 Mb/s

Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-01 Thread Lisi

On Friday 01 June 2012 17:31:46 Greg Madden wrote:
 On Friday 01 June 2012 8:23:42 am Lisi wrote:
  I get the following* if I type about:plugins into my Konqueror location
  bar. I want to get rid of Shockwqave Flash 7, but I simply cannot find a
  file/folder/application libklashpart.so anywhere, so cannot delete it.
 
  Has anyone any ideas?
 
  Thanks,
  Lisi
 
  *
  Plugin  Description  File  Types
Java Plug-in  Java Plug-in KJAS for Konqueror  kjavaappletviewer.so
application/x-java-applet - Java Applet (class)
  application/x-java-bean - JavaBeans (jar)
Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 7.0  libklashpart.so
application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
  application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)
Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102  libflashplayer.so
application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
  application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)
Shockwave Flash  Shockwave Flash 11.1 r102  flash-mozilla.so
application/x-shockwave-flash - Shockwave Flash (swf)
  application/futuresplash - FutureSplash Player (spl)

 Looks like multiple install/removes? of   flash. The 'update-lternatives'
 program may be confused. You can see what it thinks is going on
 with  'update-alternatives --get-selections'.

Junior:/home/lisi# touch get-selections.txt
Junior:/home/lisi# update-alternatives --get-selections  get-selections.txt
update-alternatives: unknown option `--get-selections'

 Purging flash packages may fix files left behind.

 You an use 'locate' to find the flash.xx.so plugin and delete it, this
 prevents Konqueror from using it, and failing on flash.

Junior:/home/lisi# locate flash.7.0.so
Junior:/home/lisi# locate flash.70.so
Junior:/home/lisi# locate flash.7.so
Junior:/home/lisi#

I had already used every permutation I could think of with locate, find, 
whereis and which.  To no avail.

I have already removed some files that I found before.

:-(

Thanks for the try.

Lisi


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Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-01 Thread steef


Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:28:21 +0200, steef wrote:


Camaleón wrote:



hi camaleon: one mote time! in udev i find:

.
quote

#MP280 series
SYSFS{idVendor}==04a9, SYSFS{idProduct}==1746, MODE=666


Mmmm... check if any of this helps:

Canon scanner not detected MP280 (SOLVED)
http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42t=76930

Greetings,


hi camaleon!

... well: thank you for this link. there is however a difference. as 
superuser the linuxmintuser could get xsane to open the canon mp280 
scanner_device. i could and can not.


further: the udev structure in the mint os is quite different from the udev 
structure in squeeze.


so: this did not work out well. a pity, but i survive this (o irony). i looked 
further at de sane_backend in /usr/lib/sane, the files in /etc  but could 
not find a solution up till now.


however: i thank you sincerely for the time you took to bow with me over this 
problem. i do not dare to hope: but maybe you have still other ideas?? maybe i 
should go to saruman? where did he go?

many regards,

steef



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Subject: Re: dhclient does not recognize config file

2012-06-01 Thread Paul Zimmerman

Tom H tomh0...@gmail.com writes:
For the record, this works for squeeze without NM or WICD - for me.

Check how well or badly dhclient's behaving by changing RUN=no to
RUN=yes in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/debug, restarting 
your network (in your case, I assume that service wicd restart will 
do it but I've never used WICD), and checking
/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases and /tmp/dhclient-script.debug.

OK, I tried activating the debug scripts. And I got some logs, but I don't see 
any mention of the prepend getting done. The leases file just gives details of 
the connections obtained. What should I be looking for?


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Re: libmx-1.0-2 : Depends: libmx-common (= 1.4.5-1) but 1.4.6-1 is installed

2012-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 09:19:06 +0800, Hor wrote in message 
4fc8188a.4050...@gmail.com:

 On 05/30/2012 10:23 PM, Arnt Karlsen wrote:
  ..ok, since you're not pointing me back to your post, I assume
  you solved it, and since your solution may help somebody else
  here, you may want to post your solution with a nice tag like
  [Solved], was:$your-subject-on-your-original-post. ;o)
 
 
 
 The problem was not solved. There wasn't any feedback to my last post
 as below:

..ok, start a new thread on it, this thread is about libmx-1.0-2.

 
  Is this bug (Bug#665000: SUMO2: blank screen after load radeon 
  module) related to my issue? As I am using Sumo chip too AMD Llano 
  A6-3670 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics stepping 00
 
  root@szechuan:~#: dmesg | grep -i sumo
  [ 7.451590] [drm] initializing kernel modesetting (SUMO
  0x1002:0x964A 0x1043:0x84C8).
  [ 7.453403] [drm] Loading SUMO Microcode 
 
 
 


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Re: ad-hoc wireless connection with Netgear N150 USB adapter

2012-06-01 Thread Arnt Karlsen

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 21:12:49 +0200, ACro wrote in message 
4fc91431.60...@bluebottle.com:

 # /etc/network/interfaces
 -
 [machine#1]
auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet static
 address 192.168.15.2

 [machine#2]
auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet static
 address 192.168.15.2

..maybe 192.168.15.3 on #2? ;o)

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Re: ad-hoc wireless connection with Netgear N150 USB adapter


maybe 192.168.15.3 on #2? ;o)


:-s ... I'm sorry, this was a stupid copy  paste error: of course *they 
have not* the same address :-) Thanks!


Andrew


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[Corrected post] ad-hoc wireless connection with Netgear N150 USB adapter