wine-utils progress to find .

2012-06-03 Thread Sthu Deus
Good time of the day.


I have such a case w/ *wine* upgrade - and it is for about a week that
the packages are held back:

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libwine-bin{a} [1.2.3-0.3]  libwine-gecko-unstable{a} [1.0.0+dfsg-1.1]
The following packages will be upgraded:
  libwine [1.0.1-3.1 -> 1.2.3-0.3]  libwine-alsa [1.0.1-3.1 ->
1.2.3-0.3]  libwine-gl [1.0.1-3.1 -> 1.2.3-0.3]  wine-bin [1.0.1-3.1 ->
1.2.3-0.3] 4 packages upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0
not upgraded. Need to get 26.9 MB of archives. After unpacking 62.9 MB
will be used. The following packages have unmet dependencies:
wine-utils : Depends: libwine (= 1.0.1-3.1) but 1.2.3-0.3 is to be
installed. Depends: wine-bin (= 1.0.1-3.1) but 1.2.3-0.3 is to be
installed. The following actions will resolve these dependencies:

 Remove the following packages:
1) wine-utils

So I went to

http://packages.qa.debian.org

to check whither the

wine-utils

package come soon out or not to wheezy. But on search for the package
I've got progress info. on wine source package instead of this
particular package.

So, how I can find out the progress on wine-utils package?


Thanks for Your time.


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what did hwinfo do to my machine?

2012-06-03 Thread Dan B.

After I ran hwinfo (to detect a modem), my machine runs very slowly at
the beginning of booting.

(GRUB takes about 8 seconds between displaying the the "Welcome to GRUB!"
text and the "error: fd0 read error." text, and another 25 seconds for
the screen to go blank on the way to displaying the menu.

Kernel booting might be slow for the first dozen or so messages; after
that, everything seems to be fine.)

What the heck did hwinfo do to my machine?


I thought hwinfo's probing changed some BIOS setting that maybe slowed
down the CPU, but I reset the BIOS to default and re-set what I had
set before, but that didn't seem to make any difference.

Now I wonder if hwinfo changed some persistent setting in my disks.

What tools are there to look at any settings of SATA disks?

(This is all in Squeeze.)


Thanks,
Daniel



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Free Speech, Privacy and Technology Article Follow-Up

2012-06-03 Thread Fiona Causer

Hi There,

I wanted to follow up with you about an email I sent a couple weeks ago asking 
if you wanted to read an article I recently wrote for an educational project of 
mine. The article discusses the amazingly complex and highly interesting 
relationship between technological advancement and law. In particular, the 
article covers issues related to personal privacy and free speech.

I had contacted you initially because I thought you might be interested in 
reading it. Please let me know if you would like to take a look at it and I 
will send it to you for your perusal.

I look forward to hearing from you soon,

Fiona Causer


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wpa_supplicant.wlan1.pid

2012-06-03 Thread ariestao


I get this message:

Sometimes the connection fails and sometimes it continues on as here:

bound to xxx.xxx.x.xxx -- renewal in 34212 seconds.
cat: /var/run/wpa_supplicant.wlan1.pid: No such file or directory
Internet Systems Consortium DHCP Client 4.2.2
Copyright 2004-2011 Internet Systems Consortium.
All rights reserved.
For info, please visit https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/

Then it goes through the whole thing again and ends with:

RTNETLINK answers: File exists
bound to xxx.xxx.x.xxx -- renewal in 42135 seconds.

I've tried to find the answer at https://www.isc.org/software/dhcp/ but 
there's no joy there.


Possibly I'm not using the search engine there correctly?

What is misconfigured?

TIA
Charlie


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Re: Troubleshooting Debian

2012-06-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/3/2012 7:07 PM, DragonDon wrote:
> Greetings all!
> 
> I know this will be a rather difficult thing to answer I think, but
> are there any generic steps listed somewhere on how to troublehshoot a
> problem on a Debian/Linux system?  I understand that each problem can
> be rather unique on how you approach it but I have yet to see a kind
> of flow-chart or at least some guidelines (did a quick search of the
> Debian FAQ and the LDP) and nothing was immediately obvious.  I was
> kinda looking for a:

This should be perfect for you:

http://www.dummies.com/store/product/Linux-For-Dummies-9th-Edition.productCd-0470467010.html

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Re: Realtek RTL8188CE Wireless Card

2012-06-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/3/2012 5:46 PM, Andrew Bryant wrote:
> I recently bought a System76 Pangolin laptop. It had Ubuntu preinstalled on
> it but I decided that I wanted the stability of Debian Squeeze. I quickly
> realized that Squeeze doesn't support the wireless card that the laptop
> has, which is a Realtek RTL8188CE card. I have searched google for a
> solution to no avail. Here is what I have tried so far...
> 
>- Installed the current Linux kernel backport
>- Installed the firmware-realtek package
>- Download and install the driver from Realtek's website
> 
> After downloading and installing the backport kernel and firmware-realtek
> packages, I restarted the laptop to find the wireless still did not work. I
> looked at the output from dmesg and found and error message complaining
> that it could not find the firmware. I then tried Realtek's website to find
> errors when trying to compile the kernel modules. I hope someone can assist
> me with this problem.

How did you "install" firmware-realtek?  Did it include any steps
similar to those described here?

"FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL
Include in-kernel firmware blobs in kernel binary

The kernel source tree includes a number of firmware 'blobs'
which are used by various drivers. The recommended way to
use these is to run "make firmware_install" and to copy the
resulting binary files created in usr/lib/firmware directory
of the kernel tree to the /lib/firmware on your system so
that they can be loaded by userspace helpers on request.

Enabling this option will build each required firmware blob
into the kernel directly, where request_firmware() will find
them without having to call out to userspace. This may be
useful if your root file system requires a device which uses
such firmware, and do not wish to use an initrd.

This single option controls the inclusion of firmware for
every driver which uses request_firmware() and ships its
firmware in the kernel source tree, to avoid a proliferation
of 'Include firmware for xxx device' options."

If the realtek firmware is being loaded you'll see an entry stating so
in dmesg.  Post any/all lines of your dmesg output containing Realtek.

My guess is there are manual steps involved here and that you didn't
read all the necessary documentation to accomplish what you're
attempting, and that the firmware isn't actually being loaded as a result.

Problems such as this are one of the many reasons I build my own kernels
from vanilla source.  I select FIRMWARE_IN_KERNEL in my .config.  In
addition to the benefits described above, it completely eliminates the
issue you're having, as all the Realtek firmware are included in the
latest kernel sources, and get built into the kernel itself.  The amount
of bytes this consumes in the kernel is tiny.

Note there is no valid technical reason why Debian doesn't include
any/all firmware blobs in its kernels.  If they did you wouldn't be
monkeying with this.  They are not included due to GPL political
reasons.  For some reason Realtek does not have a consistent policy WRT
releasing their firmware under the GPL and/or in a timely manner.  Thus
some/many of their devices end up without support in Debian.

Some commercial Linux distros include all firmware specifically so their
users don't have to jump through these hoops to get a NIC working.  Even
with these warts I still prefer Debian.  I just do quite a bit of
customization to get what I want/need out of it.

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Troubleshooting Debian

2012-06-03 Thread DragonDon
Greetings all!

I know this will be a rather difficult thing to answer I think, but
are there any generic steps listed somewhere on how to troublehshoot a
problem on a Debian/Linux system?  I understand that each problem can
be rather unique on how you approach it but I have yet to see a kind
of flow-chart or at least some guidelines (did a quick search of the
Debian FAQ and the LDP) and nothing was immediately obvious.  I was
kinda looking for a:

1/ Check logs.  Insert ways to check various logs (both CLI and GUI)
2/ Type commands (for networks use command A, for video use command B, for)

Right now, and perhaps the only method, is to plunk in any error
message (when I know there are any) into Google and hopefully a
solution appears that works for Debian. Obviously a lot of Ubuntu
results show up but given my limited knowledge on the difference, I am
not yet qualified enough to know whether it will work without causing
more complications.

I am aware of the various channels of help (i.e. this list, IRC, the
base websites) but was hoping someone may have outlined more steps so
that I can learn as much as possible without having to wait for
someone to reply.

TIA!

DragonDon


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Realtek RTL8188CE Wireless Card

2012-06-03 Thread Andrew Bryant
I recently bought a System76 Pangolin laptop. It had Ubuntu preinstalled on
it but I decided that I wanted the stability of Debian Squeeze. I quickly
realized that Squeeze doesn't support the wireless card that the laptop
has, which is a Realtek RTL8188CE card. I have searched google for a
solution to no avail. Here is what I have tried so far...

   - Installed the current Linux kernel backport
   - Installed the firmware-realtek package
   - Download and install the driver from Realtek's website

After downloading and installing the backport kernel and firmware-realtek
packages, I restarted the laptop to find the wireless still did not work. I
looked at the output from dmesg and found and error message complaining
that it could not find the firmware. I then tried Realtek's website to find
errors when trying to compile the kernel modules. I hope someone can assist
me with this problem.

Thanks


Re: Screen unresponsive

2012-06-03 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Tue, 2012-03-13 at 17:04 +, Darac Marjal wrote: 

> On Mon, Mar 05, 2012 at 01:32:17AM -0500, KS wrote:
> > On Mon, Mar 5, 2012, at 12:51 AM, KS wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > The last few days I ahve noticed that when I return to my machine
> > > (always ON), the screen doesn't respond. Keyboard (caps lock, num lock)
> > > works. I can also ssh to the machine and have noticed that Xorg takes
> > > 100% CPU. I couldn't find anything in the Xorg log or syslog files.
> > > 
> > > Today however, the screen stopped responding after a beep while I was
> > > using the machine. Below is what I found on sys log:
> > > 
> > > Mar  5 00:32:28 gurh kernel: [17901.730462] NVRM: GPU at :01:00.0
> > > has fallen off the bus.
> 
> This doesn't sound particularly good. It would suggest to me that your
> graphics card (the GPU) is no longer attached to the PCI bus. Probably
> the best case scenario is that this is a physical problem: Open up your
> computer, pull out the card and push it back in, making sure it's fully
> seated.
> 
> If the problem persists, then it may be that the card is locking up
> completely such that the PCI bus THINKS you've pulled it out. You may
> find monitoring the output of "nvclock -T" useful.
> 
> > 
> > Syslog gave the warning again as above!
> > 
> > So it this just a kernel issue?
> > 
> > Thanks,
> > KS
> > 

Hi Darac,

I don't think this is related to HW issue, indeed, I'm experiencing this
since some time ago on two different machines. All I can have is the
following: 

root@laptop:~# head -20 /var/log/syslog
May 31 22:28:59 laptop syslog-ng[1860]: Configuration reload request received, 
reloading configuration;
May 31 22:28:59 laptop syslog-ng[1860]: EOF on control channel, closing 
connection;
May 31 22:29:00 laptop anacron[11394]: Job `cron.daily' terminated
May 31 22:29:00 laptop anacron[11394]: Normal exit (1 job run)
May 31 22:49:00 laptop -- MARK --
May 31 23:05:40 laptop kernel: [32915.745040] sdc: detected capacity change 
from 8019509248 to 0
May 31 23:05:52 laptop kernel: [32927.622139] usb 2-1: USB disconnect, device 
number 8
May 31 23:08:11 laptop kernel: [33066.384097] NVRM: GPU at :01:00.0 has 
fallen off the bus.
May 31 23:08:11 laptop kernel: [33066.384102] NVRM: GPU at :01:00.0 has 
fallen off the bus.
May 31 23:08:11 laptop kernel: [33066.384120] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle: invalid 
context!
May 31 23:08:11 laptop kernel: [33066.384124] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle: invalid 
context!
May 31 23:08:11 laptop kernel: [33066.384176] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle: invalid 
context!
May 31 23:08:11 laptop kernel: [33066.384179] NVRM: os_pci_init_handle: invalid 
context!
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpuset
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00] Initializing cgroup subsys cpu
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00] Linux version 3.2.0-2-686-pae 
(Debian 3.2.18-1) (debian-ker...@lists.debian.org) (gcc version 4.6.3 (Debian 
4.6.3-5) ) #1 SMP Mon May 21 18:24:12 UTC 2012
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00] BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00]  BIOS-e820:  - 
0009f000 (usable)
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0009f000 - 
000a (reserved)
May 31 23:13:06 laptop kernel: [0.00]  BIOS-e820: 0010 - 
bfe5a800 (usable)

then on Xorg side I have this 

[ 30399.257] (II) config/udev: Adding input device ELECOM ELECOM USB mouse with 
wheel  (/dev/input/mouse2)
[ 30399.257] (II) No input driver specified, ignoring this device.
[ 30399.257] (II) This device may have been added with another device file.
[ 33119.907] [mi] EQ overflowing.  Additional events will be discarded until 
existing events are processed.
[ 33119.907] 
[ 33119.907] Backtrace:
[ 33120.497] 0: /usr/bin/Xorg (xorg_backtrace+0x49) [0xb7778099]
[ 33120.497] 1: /usr/bin/Xorg (mieqEnqueue+0x22b) [0xb77569ab]
[ 33120.497] 2: /usr/bin/Xorg (0xb75fb000+0x51265) [0xb764c265]
[ 33120.497] 3: /usr/bin/Xorg (xf86PostMotionEventM+0xf9) [0xb7686119]
[ 33120.497] 4: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0xb4255000+0x35ad) 
[0xb42585ad]
[ 33120.497] 5: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/input/evdev_drv.so (0xb4255000+0x4a2c) 
[0xb4259a2c]
[ 33120.497] 6: /usr/bin/Xorg (0xb75fb000+0x7a8e1) [0xb76758e1]
[ 33120.497] 7: /usr/bin/Xorg (0xb75fb000+0xa050a) [0xb769b50a]
[ 33120.497] 8: (vdso) (__kernel_sigreturn+0x0) [0xb75dd400]
[ 33120.497] 9: (vdso) (__kernel_vsyscall+0x10) [0xb75dd424]
[ 33120.497] 10: /lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6 (__gettimeofday+0x16) 
[0xb7309916]
[ 33120.497] 11: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/nvidia_drv.so 
(0xb486f000+0x62e0d) [0xb48d1e0d]
[ 33120.497] 
[ 33120.497] [mi] These backtraces from mieqEnqueue may point to a culprit 
higher up the stack.
[ 33120.497] [mi] mieq is *NOT* the cause.  It is a victim.
[ 33120.983] (WW) NVIDIA(0): WAIT (0, 7, 0x8000, 0x9354, 0x9354)
[ 33120.983] [mi] Increas

Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Weaver

> On 02/06/12 11:33 PM, Jeremy Allard wrote:
>> Frank McCormick  writes:
>>
>>> I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
>>> configuration file.
>>> Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
>>> "best" GUI editor which handles XML ??
>>>
>
>> You should check out the xml-mode in emacs.
>>
>
>
>If I had emacs installed...I would do...but a 100 meg installation
> to use XML is a bit much :)
> Maybe one day.

Emacs is a great operating system.
It just lacks a good editor.
Regards,

Weaver.
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by the wise as false,
and by the rulers as useful.

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sl-modem-daemon forces off-hook all the time

2012-06-03 Thread Paul Zimmerman
Well, as soon as I solve one problem another one pops up. 

Running Linux is like playing whack-a-mole. For some reason
the sl-modem-daemon on my system has started forcing the
phone line off-hook at all times. This means it will cause the 

phone line to shut down until you disconnect the phone wire 

to let the system reset. I don't recall changing anything about
the sl-modem-daemon, or even the sound system. So why 

would it start doing that? Time to go hunting through more
config files...


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Re: Subject: Re: dhclient does not recognize config file

2012-06-03 Thread Paul Zimmerman
Camaleón  wrote:
>Put the logs here or better yet, upload them to 
>www.pastebin.com (remember to hide/remove any 
>sensitive data contained at the logs). >Also, as you are using WICD, it could 
>be that 
>there is a configuration file that you to edit 
>for this purpose... how about the "/etc/wicd/
>dhclient.conf.template" file? What is that for? :-?

That tells wicd how to configure dhclient. :) 
Yes, I just found that myselfyesterday while 
researching about wicd. And when I put the same
line recommended for dhclient.conf into the wicd
template file at that location it works. Finally
I have all the pieces of DNS caching working in 
Linux!

Now if I can just figure out why the sl-modem-daemon
that was working perfectly has suddenly gone haywire...

:-/


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Problem with kernel patching

2012-06-03 Thread dobrima...@yahoo.pl
Hello, I have a problem with patching kernel 2.6-2.6.32.

I'm trying to add PVUSB [1] support in Xen. According to [1] I should add a 
patch [2] to kernel. I was trying to do it with steps described in [3]. 

I had to make some changes in the patch file because in the meantime some other 
changes appeared. After my changes the patch file looks like [4].

When I try to execute "make -f debian/rules source-all" it fails at applying my 
patch stage.
The errors appearing until I add "a/" i "b/" prefixes at lines 2, 3, 2045, 
2046, 2060, 2061,4390 and 4391. I'm not sure what is the purpose of using it 
there.

Now it goes without any errors, but the files which should be modified, remain 
intact, and that's my problem actually. I can't figure out why it happens.

I will be grateful for any help.


[1] http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_USB_Passthrough
[2] http://members.iinet.net.au/~nathanael/pvusb.diff
[3] http://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage
[4] http://wklej.org/id/759234/


Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 21:34:04 +0200, steef wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:19:11 +0200, steef wrote:
>>
> <..>>
>>> further: the udev structure in the mint os is quite different from the
>>> udev structure in squeeze.
>>
>> (...)
>>
>> But you don't have to follow the instructions "word by word" but
>> understanding what the problem can be and adapt the same idea to your
>> Squeeze system.
> 
> 
> ...of course. you are right. i did that but it did not yet work out
> well.

Nope, you didn't; because if so you had discovered the "scangearmp" 
utility earlier ;-P
 
>> Also, don't stick to xsane, use the Canon app and also try with Gimp.
> 
> this is a very good idea. after all those years with xsane i have
> developed a pavlov-reaction like  scan = xsane.
> i found /usr/bin/scangearmp and can start the scanner now as root. i
> will change the permissions later. 

No, no, no... I mean, don't do that manually, use "udev" rules as the 
forum post states, just don't read the instruction so literally, try to 
mimic what it says but making your own conclusions.

> in the meantime i can do "sudo chmod 666  youngest daughter who somehow was in a great hurry with a couple of
> university examens.

There has to be a file ("/lib/udev/rules.d/60-libsane.rules") in your 
system (this file in included within the package "libsane"), you only 
have to make the modifications in there as the post says. If you already 
did it so, please post here (or upload elsewhere) the full content of 
that file so we can check.

> i thank you very much for your patience with me

Well, patience has a price. I didn't mention but the Lord of the Nazgûl 
needs some fresh meat to feed its beast >>>:-)

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Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-03 Thread steef

Camaleón wrote:

On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:19:11 +0200, steef wrote:


<..>>

further: the udev structure in the mint os is quite different from the
udev structure in squeeze.


(...)

But you don't have to follow the instructions "word by word" but
understanding what the problem can be and adapt the same idea to your
Squeeze system.



...of course. you are right. i did that but it did not yet work out well.



Also, don't stick to xsane, use the Canon app and also try with Gimp.


this is a very good idea. after all those years with xsane i have developed a 
pavlov-reaction like  scan = xsane.
i found /usr/bin/scangearmp and can start the scanner now as root. i will 
change the permissions later. in the meantime i can do "sudo chmod 666 
with a couple of university examens.


i thank you very much for your patience with me

kind regards and greetings from

steef

groningen, the netherlands









Greetings,




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Re: Flashplayer problems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-03, Lisi  wrote:
>
> I already have.  I have removed - purged - all the packages to do with Gnash 
> or Falshplayer 7 that were ever installed.  Nothing is installed.  But there 
> are some residual files.  Removing them is something I can try.  What else 
> can I do?  There are no relevant packages on my machine.

So you purged all packages that have anything to do with flash but there
are residual files? What are they and where are they and why don't you
remove them if they truly exist?  Doesn't seem normal to me. Apparently,
Konqueror is lying to you.  I don't believe in mystery files.

;-)

Maybe I should.

>> If you have more than one flashplayer installed on your machine (gnash +
>> flashplugin-nonfree?) then you might have to play with
>
> I haven't.  We are obviously crossing wires badly that you have the 
> impression 
> that I have.

Yeah, forget it.  I read this from you :

 I am trying to find any remaining files in order to rm them, in the
 apparently vain hope that Flashplayer will actually play!!  And
 Konqueror says that the file is libklashpart.so, and that it plays
 Shockwave Flash 7. 

and thought that meant you wanted to play flash with a plugin other than
gnash, which for me could only mean the nonfree baby, but forget it
because I don't understand any of it and won't be doing so any time
soon.

Sorry for the noise.  I'm outta here.

>> "update-alternatives" in order for Konqueror to "choose" the latter

>> rather than the former.
>
> Lisi
>
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Re: Flashplayer problems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 June 2012 18:25:38 Curt wrote:
> That's not how we remove files that are installed by packages in these
> parts.  We remove (and purge, eventually) the incriminated package
> itself.

I already have.  I have removed - purged - all the packages to do with Gnash 
or Falshplayer 7 that were ever installed.  Nothing is installed.  But there 
are some residual files.  Removing them is something I can try.  What else 
can I do?  There are no relevant packages on my machine.

> If you have more than one flashplayer installed on your machine (gnash +
> flashplugin-nonfree?) then you might have to play with

I haven't.  We are obviously crossing wires badly that you have the impression 
that I have.
 
> "update-alternatives" in order for Konqueror to "choose" the latter
> rather than the former.

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Re: epson printer prints WHITE PAGE !!!

2012-06-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Jun 2012 at 23:03:13 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:

[Snipped: Description of a problem with CUPS and an epson C20SX parallel
printer.].

> Can you suggest any fix please ?

Not at the moment. But knowing the version of cups you are using would
be useful.


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Re: epson printer prints WHITE PAGE !!!

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 23:03:13 +0530, J. Bakshi wrote:

> I have a epson C20SX parallel printer. I have bought a parallel to usb
> cable so that I can use it with my laptop. After connecting the cable I
> have seen the new H/W has been detected.

(...)
 
> Now I have checked by both cups and system-config-printer; which
> detected an unknown printer. But not the printer model. Hence I have
> selected the printer model and from its database the driver i.e. "epson
> stylus C20Sx" . Unfortunately both the application prints blank test
> pages. Is there anyone having the same issue. Can you suggest any fix
> please ?

As the printer has been propelry detected and installed, and given that 
is supported by gutenprint... have you recently checked for the ink 
levels and/or head cleaning? :-P

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Brian
On Sun 03 Jun 2012 at 02:28:43 -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote:

> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400
> Miles Fidelman  wrote:
> 
> > here's another interesting one:
> > http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html
> > 
> >  From the description:
> > 
> > ---
> > Woof (Web Offer One File) tries a different approach. It assumes that 
> > everybody has a web-browser or a commandline web-client installed.
> > Woof is a small simple stupid webserver that can easily be invoked on
> > a single file. Your partner can access the file with tools he trusts
> > (e.g. wget). No need to enter passwords on keyboards where you don't
> > know about keyboard sniffers, no need to start a huge lot of

[Snipped: the remainder of the description of Woof.]
 
> Woof is excellent! Woof's also in the debian package repositories, as
> is fex (from your previous message). Thank you for finding these, try
> as I might I was unable to find any programs that do this from my own
> searches.

Woof doesn't appear to offer basic authentication so your files will be
up for grabs to anyone. This may be seen as less than ideal. Rather
ironic when you consider the advice given on not opening a machine to
the world and using ssh. Servefile is a very close cousin of Woof and
doesn't suffer from this alarming defect. You may want to evaluate it.


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epson printer prints WHITE PAGE !!!

2012-06-03 Thread J. Bakshi

Dear list,

I have a epson C20SX parallel printer. I have bought a parallel to usb cable so 
that
I can use it with my laptop. After connecting the cable I have seen the new H/W 
has been
detected.

From lsusb

`
Bus 001 Device 069: ID 067b:2305 Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port

```

And the node has created as /dev/usb/lp1

crw-rw---T 1 root lp 180, 1 Jun  2 22:45 /dev/usb/lp1


Now I have checked by both cups and system-config-printer; which detected an
unknown printer. But not the printer model. Hence I have selected the printer 
model
and from its database the driver i.e. "epson stylus C20Sx" . Unfortunately
both the application prints blank test pages. Is there anyone having the same 
issue.
Can you suggest any fix please ?

Thanks


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Re: Flashplayer problems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-03, Lisi  wrote:
>>
>> I thought the question was what deb package brings in the file
>> 'libklashpart.so' so that you could "get rid of it," as per your
>> original article.
>
> I'm afraid that you have lost me.  I am trying to get rid of it, as you say,  
> (I have already purged it), not install it.

Well, that makes two of us who are lost then.  

> I am trying to find any remaining files in order to rm them, in the 
> apparently 
> vain hope that Flashplayer will actually play!!  And Konqueror says that the 
> file is libklashpart.so, and that it plays Shockwave Flash 7.

That's not how we remove files that are installed by packages in these
parts.  We remove (and purge, eventually) the incriminated package
itself.

If you have more than one flashplayer installed on your machine (gnash +
flashplugin-nonfree?) then you might have to play with
"update-alternatives" in order for Konqueror to "choose" the latter
rather than the former.

> I've suddenly clicked.  You are suggesting that I search for that package not 
> flashplugin.  And there are indeed quite a few files still on the HDD, though 
> the package itself is not there.
>

I'm saying that konqueror-plugin-gnash provides libklashpart.so.


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Re: can server directly access exported nfs dir ?

2012-06-03 Thread dave selby
Thanks for that, I appreciate it

Cheers

Dave

On 3 June 2012 18:07, rjc  wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 04:19:09PM BST, dave selby wrote:
>> I have a server that provides a nfs share to several computers on my
>> network, I also want to back up this nfs share.
>>
>> Do I need to mount this share on the server itself before I access it
>> for backup or is it OK to access it directly ?
>>
>> I am not sure how picks nfs is with respect to direct access of its
>> exported shares
>
> You can access the files directly from the server.
> Direct access is always referable over NFS or any other transport
> for that matter.
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Re: can server directly access exported nfs dir ?

2012-06-03 Thread rjc
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 04:19:09PM BST, dave selby wrote:
> I have a server that provides a nfs share to several computers on my
> network, I also want to back up this nfs share.
> 
> Do I need to mount this share on the server itself before I access it
> for backup or is it OK to access it directly ?
> 
> I am not sure how picks nfs is with respect to direct access of its
> exported shares

You can access the files directly from the server.
Direct access is always referable over NFS or any other transport
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Re: Flashplayer problems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 June 2012 16:55:32 Curt wrote:
> On 2012-06-03, Lisi  wrote:
> > On Sunday 03 June 2012 16:01:12 Curt wrote:
> >> On 2012-06-02, Lisi  wrote:
> >> >> locate libklashpart.so
> >>
> >> konqueror-plugin-gnash (brings that in)?
> >
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > Konqueror claims that it is Shockwave Flash 7.0.
>
> I thought the question was what deb package brings in the file
> 'libklashpart.so' so that you could "get rid of it," as per your
> original article.

I'm afraid that you have lost me.  I am trying to get rid of it, as you say,  
(I have already purged it), not install it.

I am trying to find any remaining files in order to rm them, in the apparently 
vain hope that Flashplayer will actually play!!  And Konqueror says that the 
file is libklashpart.so, and that it plays Shockwave Flash 7.

I've suddenly clicked.  You are suggesting that I search for that package not 
flashplugin.  And there are indeed quite a few files still on the HDD, though 
the package itself is not there.

Thanks, Curt.

I'm about to go away.  I'll get straight onto this when I get back.

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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Frank McCormick

On 03/06/12 12:24 PM, Frank McCormick wrote:

On 03/06/12 07:41 AM, Weaver wrote:



Frank McCormick writes:


I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
configuration file.
Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
"best" GUI editor which handles XML ??


How is Conglomerate looking these days?
Regards,

Weaver.



Good question - I'll investigate .
Thanks



  I did - conglomerate only supports  a few formatsand did not like
the way my .jwmrc is formatted. Actually it doesn't seem to be in any 
common XML format...as even xmlcopyeditor find problems with it.

I guess it'll be back to text for now...but it sure makes setting up
jwm  a tough job.



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Re: Subject: Re: dhclient does not recognize config file

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 14:29:29 -0700, Paul Zimmerman wrote:

> Tom H  writes:
>>For the record, this works for squeeze without NM or WICD - for me.
> 
>>Check how well or badly dhclient's behaving by changing "RUN=no" to
>>"RUN=yes" in "/etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d/debug", restarting your
>>network (in your case, I assume that "service wicd restart" will do it
>>but I've never used WICD), and checking
>>"/var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases" and /tmp/dhclient-script.debug".
> 
> OK, I tried activating the debug scripts. And I got some logs, but I
> don't see any mention of the prepend getting done. The leases file just
> gives details of the connections obtained. What should I be looking for?

Put the logs here or better yet, upload them to www.pastebin.com 
(remember to hide/remove any sensitive data contained at the logs).

Also, as you are using WICD, it could be that there is a configuration 
file that you to edit for this purpose... how about the "/etc/wicd/
dhclient.conf.template" file? What is that for? :-?

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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Frank McCormick

On 02/06/12 11:33 PM, Jeremy Allard wrote:

Frank McCormick  writes:


I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
configuration file.
Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
"best" GUI editor which handles XML ??




You should check out the xml-mode in emacs.




  If I had emacs installed...I would do...but a 100 meg installation
to use XML is a bit much :)
Maybe one day.


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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Frank McCormick

On 03/06/12 07:41 AM, Weaver wrote:



Frank McCormick  writes:


I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
configuration file.
Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
"best" GUI editor which handles XML ??


How is Conglomerate looking these days?
Regards,

Weaver.



  Good question - I'll investigate .
Thanks

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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Frank McCormick

On 03/06/12 11:08 AM, Camaleón wrote:

On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:52:17 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:


I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
configuration file.
Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
"best" GUI editor which handles XML ??


Here you have an extensive lits of specialized XML editors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_editors

But I can't comment on any, when I have to edit an XML file I simply open
Gedit or mcedit O:-)

Greetings,



  If I have to do any more XML editing that way...I'll be cross-eyed :)



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Re: [OT] Re: Computer case

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 08:45:01 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> Hi Camaleón,
> 
> the cases I own are around 14" high. I could place any case <= 26" high.
> I like the relatively unobtrusive design of CHIEFTEC, but I don't trust
> the sidewall catch.
> Since better cases seems to be expensive, I'm googleing for 19" wide
> cases at the moment. Most of my music gear is 19" too. I placed the gear
> on shelfs, but I tend to switch to a 19" cabinet, to get rid of the wide
> and lengthy shelfs. A tower could be > 26" high, if I would get rid of
> the shelfs.
> The only issue, a 19" or a new tower computer case + a 19" cabinet is
> above my financial scope.

So you look for a racked cabinet? 19" chasis are quite huge and lengthy 
but if have the required space, they're perfect when it comes to put your 
hands on them (adding cards, removing cables, changing the power supply 
is a child's play...) :-)

Also, remember that depending on the racked height (<=2U) you will have 
to search for low-profile/half-height PCI cards.

> If a huge case is nearly empty, doesn't it tend to be an acoustic
> resonator?

Mmmm... I can't tell (the rack room I manage is so noisy that I can 
barely hear anything but the noise coming from the dual power supplies :-
P) but there are kits in the market aimed to solve the unwanted sound 
which usually include foam pieces for the covers and silent-blocks to 
avoid vibrations coming for the moveable components (hard disks, fan 
screews, etc...).

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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-03, Lisi  wrote:
> On Sunday 03 June 2012 16:01:12 Curt wrote:
>> On 2012-06-02, Lisi  wrote:
>> >> locate libklashpart.so
>>
>> konqueror-plugin-gnash (brings that in)?
>
> Thanks for the reply.
>
> Konqueror claims that it is Shockwave Flash 7.0.
>

I thought the question was what deb package brings in the file
'libklashpart.so' so that you could "get rid of it," as per your
original article.




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Re: Web browser gets slow and blocks the system

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 10:58:27 -0700, Kelly Clowers wrote:

> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 1:17 PM, Camaleón  wrote:

(...)

>> Just for you to get the idea, in my system (64-bits with 8 GiB of RAM),
>> Firefox takes "99 MiB" of real memory (now 101 MiB)... go figure.
> 
> Wow, that isn't much! I have 8GB as well, my SeaMonkey is currently
> using over 1,700 MB (resident)... that is with about 95 tabs open
> (normal for me). When I had 4GB RAM, it would take a lot less than that
> for that many tabs, though (more like 1,200 MB, I believe).

Ah, I guess you never close your browser, right?

I do (I close the browser), I never have Firefox opened more than 1 
minute or so with a few tabs (no more than 10) and I have it configured 
to delete all the cache data every time it closes... still, 100 MiB of 
RAM is too much for me and the way I use the browser (I think windows 
does a better memory management in this regard).

> In any case, the point is all modern browsers want a lot of memory.

Yes. In addition, I also have noticed that 64 bits applications are 
noticeably more memory hungry than their counterparts in 32 bits which 
can be irrelevant when you have 8 GiB of RAM but it can make a difference 
when using 2/4 GiB instead...

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Re: Flashplayer problems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 June 2012 13:59:44 rjc wrote:
> If your locate database is up to date it means that the file is no
> longer there and your plugins registry simply doesn't reflect that.

Erm, yes.  But that still means that I can't play Flashplayer!!

As I mentioned earlier, I think that the time has come to concentrate on 
getting my main machine up and running with Squeeze.

But thank you for your help.

Lisi


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Re: The permissions of the apache2 log dir

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:17:35 +0200, Titanus Eramius wrote:

> Last week i ran into the very restrictive folder permissions of the
> apache2 log dir. They where "drwxr-x--- root adm" but I changed them to
> "rwxr-xr-x root adm" so a unprivileged user may opdate webalizer[1] at
> night.

Uff... don't do that.

It's recommended to run webalizer from a cron job (or manually, but it 
has to be root who runs the task) but changing the Apache log directory 
permissions can lead to a security problem :-/

> That got me thinking (which I generally don't like...), does anyone know
> why the permissions are so strict, and is there a risk in the change
> I've made beside that everybody now may read the logs?

They are strict because they have to be so. 

If you need an unpriviledged user to run webalizer to manually update the 
web stats you better find a differenet way for doing it, for instance, by 
adding a secondary directory where to send the user logs with relaxed 
permission (only available for that user and password protected) or using/
configuring sudo to allow that user to run the webalizer binary so he can 
execute the script without altering the directory perms.

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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Lisi
On Sunday 03 June 2012 16:01:12 Curt wrote:
> On 2012-06-02, Lisi  wrote:
> >> locate libklashpart.so
>
> konqueror-plugin-gnash (brings that in)?

Thanks for the reply.

Konqueror claims that it is Shockwave Flash 7.0.

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can server directly access exported nfs dir ?

2012-06-03 Thread dave selby
I have a server that provides a nfs share to several computers on my
network, I also want to back up this nfs share.

Do I need to mount this share on the server itself before I access it
for backup or is it OK to access it directly ?

I am not sure how picks nfs is with respect to direct access of its
exported shares

Cheers

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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 19:52:17 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote:

> I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
> configuration file.
> Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
> "best" GUI editor which handles XML ??

Here you have an extensive lits of specialized XML editors:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_XML_editors

But I can't comment on any, when I have to edit an XML file I simply open 
Gedit or mcedit O:-)

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Re: what happened to spam filters of this list

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:23:02 +0600, Aft nix wrote:

> So many spams are directed to this list. Any spam filter there?

Yes, there are.

And they can be fed-trained from your input :-)

http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster
 
> I've accidentally replied one of them, no 100's mails are flodding my
> mailbox.
> 
> I know its me who acted stupid, but still, a spam filter would have been
> nice.

There are spam filters in place but spammers are becoming more and more 
aggressive in these days. Heck, even my Gmail inbox is being flooded by 
all sort of spam messages while I barely had to deal with that a year 
ago...

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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread Curt
On 2012-06-02, Lisi  wrote:
>
>> locate libklashpart.so

konqueror-plugin-gnash (brings that in)?


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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 22:51:12 -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote:

> Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for email to
> a friend directly (such as recordings of music I am working on, or
> similar projects). I'm wondering if there is a program that I could use
> for direct transfer, hopefully with these qualifications:
> 
> 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp)
> 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync)
> 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC)
> 
> - From what I can find it seems like XMPP would probably be the best bet
> for this... is there no program you can run with something like a -
> --listen to listen for a connection on one end, and then run the program
> with the destination IP from the other? Something along those lines?
> 
> Any and all advice/recommendations are appreciated!

I don't get it.

Do you need a system for sending big files to a recipient or something 
else (such music streaming)?

For just sending larger files I would use an external public service 
(that you can mount by yor own means or one of those you can share with 
zillion users, e.g., Sendspace, Google Drive, Dropbox, etc...) but this 
seems to be confronting with your first point :-?

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Re: Setting up the scanner

2012-06-03 Thread Camaleón
On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 23:19:11 +0200, steef wrote:

> Camaleón wrote:
>> On Fri, 01 Jun 2012 18:28:21 +0200, steef wrote:
>>
>>> Camaleón wrote:
>>
>>> hi camaleon: one mote time! in udev i find:
>>>
>>> <.>
>>> quote
 #MP280 series
 SYSFS{idVendor}=="04a9", SYSFS{idProduct}=="1746", MODE="666"
>>
>> Mmmm... check if any of this helps:
>>
>> Canon scanner not detected MP280 (SOLVED)
>> http://forums.linuxmint.com/viewtopic.php?f=42&t=76930
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
> hi camaleon!
> 
> ... well: thank you for this link. there is however a difference. as
> superuser the linuxmintuser could get xsane to open the canon mp280
> scanner_device. i could and can not.

It's not "xsane" but the Canon scanning program ("scangearmp"), try with 
that.
 
> further: the udev structure in the mint os is quite different from the
> udev structure in squeeze.

(...)

But you don't have to follow the instructions "word by word" but 
understanding what the problem can be and adapt the same idea to your 
Squeeze system.

Also, don't stick to xsane, use the Canon app and also try with Gimp.

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 02:31:02AM -0700, Aubrey Raech wrote:
> On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:16:19 +0100
> Chris Davies  wrote:
> 
> > 7.  Use rsync (over ssh) or sftp to copy the files. Remember to tell
> > them to use port 10022 (or whatever you decided in #1) instead of the
> > default port 22.
> > 
> > Chris
> > 
> > 
> 
> In the event that the other person is capable of ssh/scp, I will
> probably configure a setup like this. Thank you for the how-to!! Very
> helpful. I don't mind ssh/scp, but most people I know don't know how
> to use that sort of thing at *all*.
> 
Aubrey,

If you do set up an ssh server, your remote users can use an SFTP client
to access it.  FileZilla or GFTP are two that come to mind.  That may be
easier for your users than command-line scp or rsync.

-Rob


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Re: Flashpalyer poroblems on Lenny.

2012-06-03 Thread rjc
On Sat, Jun 02, 2012 at 05:32:15PM BST, Lisi wrote:
> On Saturday 02 June 2012 07:59:40 rjc wrote:
> > locate libklashpart.so
>  Tried that :-(

If your locate database is up to date it means that the file is no
longer there and your plugins registry simply doesn't reflect that.

> > apt-file is useful tool to search for package names containing
> > specific string in full path, even when the package is not installed:
> >
> > apt-file search libklashpart.so
> 
> lisi@Junior:~$ aptitude search libklashpart.so
> lisi@Junior:~$ apt-file search libklashpart.so
> bash: apt-file: command not found
> lisi@Junior:~$ su
> Password:
> Junior:/home/lisi# aptitude search libklashpart.so

This is not going to work - man aptitude.

> Junior:/home/lisi# apt-file search libklashpart.so
> bash: apt-file: command not found
> Junior:/home/lisi#

;^)

Well, you have to install it first and then update its database.

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Rob Owens
On Sun, Jun 03, 2012 at 08:41:40AM +0100, Chris Davies wrote:
> Rob Owens  wrote:
> > I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon login
> > like this:
> 
> I figured I'd frighten the OP if I added too much complexity.
> 
Fair enough!
> 
> > It's simpler to just AllowUsers user1 user2 user3
> 
> Fair point in the circumstances.
> 
> 
> >> 6.  Make sure that your password, and your friend's password on your
> >> machine, is sufficiently complex that others are unlikely to guess it.
> >> 
> > Always a good idea, but the risk is lessened by forcing sftp [...])
> 
> Not sure you lessen the risk if the password's weak.
> 
I only meant that if an attacker can guess a password, but is
constrained to SFTP, and there is nothing important on the SFTP server,
then not much harm is done.  Of course there's always the risk that a
vulnerability is discovered in the SFTP server...

> 
> > Instead of using rsync, use FileZilla or another FTP client [...]
> 
> I had assumed the OP was talking about a Linux environment. Otherwise
> why would they have been posting to this list?
> 
FileZilla is available in Debian (in case you didn't know).  I only
recommended it because it's a popular name.  And for beginners, I think
a GUI FTP application is easier than rsync.

-Rob


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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Miles Fidelman

Aubrey Raech wrote:


On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400
Miles Fidelman  wrote:


here's another interesting one:
http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html


Woof is excellent! Woof's also in the debian package repositories, as
is fex (from your previous message). Thank you for finding these, try
as I might I was unable to find any programs that do this from my own
searches.


Happy to help.


Someone in another area of the thread commented that I wanted to "send"
a file rather than make one available for download... I should have
known I'd have to be much more explicit and precise with this crowd. ;)


Actually, that was also me... quoting you:  "I have the need to send 
files that are too large" -

seemed pretty explicit and precise to me.  Perhaps too precise :-)

Cheers,

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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Weaver

> Frank McCormick  writes:
>
>> I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
>> configuration file.
>> Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the
>> "best" GUI editor which handles XML ??

How is Conglomerate looking these days?
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Re: libmx-1.0-2 : Depends: libmx-common (= 1.4.5-1) but 1.4.6-1 is installed

2012-06-03 Thread Hor Jiun Shyong




Temporarily I have removed libmx-common, libmx-1.0-2 and all 
dependencies.



Update:

Just did "apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade -V" . libmx-1.0-2, 
and libclutter-imcontext are installed successfully.



Setting up libclutter-imcontext-0.1-0 (0.1.4-2+b2) ...
Setting up libmx-1.0-2:amd64 (1.4.6-1) ...




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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 08:41:40 +0100
Chris Davies  wrote:

> Rob Owens  wrote:
> > I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon
> > login like this:
> 
> I figured I'd frighten the OP if I added too much complexity.

Yes. :-/

> 
> 
> > Instead of using rsync, use FileZilla or another FTP client [...]
> 
> I had assumed the OP was talking about a Linux environment. Otherwise
> why would they have been posting to this list?
> 
> Chris

I think what was meant was, FileZilla or another FTP client for the
non-Linux user? My computer runs Debian wheezy. Thank you for
contributing to this whole thread in general btw, lots of interesting
back-and-forth... but Miles summed it up pretty nicely with a link to
this xkcd:

http://xkcd.com/949/

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:24:22 -0500
"Christofer C. Bell"  wrote:

[snip]

> 
> That said, there have been a number of suggestions towards modifying
> the OP's requirements and I'm interested in seeing the reasoning
> behind the requirements themselves.  Aubrey hasn't replied yet and I
> think there's value in giving her an opportunity to respond, clarify
> and perhaps narrow her requirements, and allow us to provide better
> advice.  The fact is, with the requirements set as they are, there is
> no possible solution (see below) to her problem.

My reasoning may not be as well-thought-out as I first thought, as
pointed out directly and indirectly by many people in this thread. ;)

In the end I think I may be using Miles' suggestion of Woof;
it is essentially a one-off ad-hoc HTTP server implemented in python.

> (Yes, I did see someone suggest nc (possible alternative: socat).
> While that *does* meet the OP's initial set of requirements, that's
> not really much of a "solution"...) ;-)
> 

Surprisingly netcat might very well be a perfectly reasonable way to
go... I will look into socat while I'm at it, thank you.

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 15:16:19 +0100
Chris Davies  wrote:

> Aubrey Raech  wrote:
> > Sometimes I have the need to send files that are too large for
> > email to a friend directly [...]
> 
> > 1. Not a proper server (http, ftp)
> > 2. No usernames? (scp, rsync)
> > 3. Preferably does not require a chat protocol (XMPP, IRC's DCC)
> 
> > - From what I can find it seems like XMPP would probably be the
> > best bet for this...
> 
> But in #3 above you've just excluded XMPP. Do you want it or not?
> 
> > is there no program you can run with something like a - --listen to
> > listen for a connection on one end, and then run the program with
> > the destination IP from the other? Something along those lines?
> 
> Yes. A "proper" server (http, ftp, ssh) would satisfy this requirement
> but you've excluded those with #1, #2. If your PCs can have Internet
> facing ports configured, I'd go for ssh/rsync every time.
> 
> 1.  One (or both) of you configure your router/firewall to accept
> inbound TCP connections from (say) port 10022 and route them to your
> Linux-based PC on port 22. If you can't redirect port 10022 to
> port 22 then just forward port 10022 and create a firewall rule on
> your Linux-based PC to rewrite inbound requests on 10022 to local port
> 22. (Come back here if you need help with that.)
> 
> 2.  Consider the use of DDNS services such as those provided by
> dyndns.org to make your IP address available by name to your friend.
> 
> 3.  Install the openssh-server package
> 
> 4.  Configure /etc/ssh/sshd_config, adding an AllowGroups line such
> as this:
> 
> AllowGroups sshuser
> 
> 5.  Put your and your friend's user accounts into the sshuser group:
> 
> groupadd sshuser
> usermod -a -G sshuser YOURUSERNAME
> usermod -a -G sshuser YOURFRIENDSUSERNAME
> 
> 6.  Make sure that your password, and your friend's password on your
> machine, is sufficiently complex that others are unlikely to
> guess it.
> 
> 7.  Use rsync (over ssh) or sftp to copy the files. Remember to tell
> them to use port 10022 (or whatever you decided in #1) instead of the
> default port 22.
> 
> Chris
> 
> 

In the event that the other person is capable of ssh/scp, I will
probably configure a setup like this. Thank you for the how-to!! Very
helpful. I don't mind ssh/scp, but most people I know don't know how
to use that sort of thing at *all*.

Thank you!

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 18:10:53 +0300
Mika Suomalainen  wrote:

> On 02.06.2012 09:21, Aubrey Raech wrote:
> > On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 08:08:44 +0200
> > Tom Rausner  wrote:
> > 
> >> Dropbox ?
> > 
> > Ah, and avoiding third-party servers was also a hopeful :-/ I'd
> > prefer not to have my files "out there" on the web... more of a
> > direct person-to-person transfer.
> > 
> > I've also considered making a .torrent file for whatever it is I
> > want to transfer and using a public tracker for it, but that seems
> > far more roundabout than necessary. A torrent of one.
> > 
> > --Aubrey
> 
> GPG encrypted file(s) + torrent with public tracker?
> I have used that method sometimes.
> 

And although a great program has been recommended (Woof), I think I may
like this method better, at least when the files are large enough. Two
reasons:

1. My ISP can get mad if I send too much data up through my connection,
   complaining that I'm "running services". If I throttle the upload,
   it's not an issue.

2. If we lose connection for some reason, the download does not have to
   restart! At least with Woof, I believe that that would be necessary.

Plus GPG is awesome! I may use GPG with one of the other "make a file
available for download" methods in the event that the other person can
be expected to decrypt it! :)

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 20:28:22 +0100
Brian  wrote:

> On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 09:34:55 -0500, green wrote:
> 
> > Brian, you seem to be assuming that the router has a public IP (on
> > the WAN side), which is often not true.  Unfortunately, many ISPs
> > provide their customers with only private/local IPs behind NAT;
> > inbound connections are therefore not possible unless the ISP
> > agrees to forward a particular port or port range.

I am technically able to reach my local computer from outside the local
network by connecting to an IP address, assuming the proper port is
forwarded to the correct subnet address.

> Implicit in my reply was that assumption. It is what I am accustomed
> to, even though my own ISP offers the facility you describe. Thank
> you for pointing out how different ISPs allocate addresses. I will
> try to remember that a router may not have a routeable IP address.
> Given a choice of ISPs, I'd not choose one who imposes what you
> describe.
> 

But although I technically *can* do this, very effectively, my ISP gets
pissy if I do it very much at all. :( This whole thread is really
because I want to do one-off data transfers without running a web
server and without necessarily having to worry about persisting
availability of data that might be being downloaded. If that happens I
could be disconnected (though probably temporarily).

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 23:16:09 +0100
Brian  wrote:

> On Sat 02 Jun 2012 at 15:27:15 -0400, Miles Fidelman wrote:
> 
> > Brian wrote:
> >
> > I guess it depends on which packages you tell the installer to
> > load. One of the options is "web server," but I haven't set up a
> > desktop installation lately (all my Debian is server-side), so I'm
> > not really sure if a web server is part of the standard desktop
> > configuration, but it's certainly one of the options.
> 
> It isn't part of the standard desktop configuration.
> 
> > The original poster said the want to "send" a file to someone, as  
> > opposed to "make available for download."  Now if I'm sending a
> > file from one linux machine to another, scp is a pretty
> > straightforward way to do it from the command line, and scp runs
> > over ssh.
> 
> I don't think the OP really knows what he needs to do to achieve his
> ends. People are often lax in not distinguishing between making a file
> available and sending it.
> 

Yes, I'm sorry for not being clearer. The difference really *is*
important in cases like this. Making a file available would be
perfectly all right; this is probably what I *should* have meant by one
person "--listening" and the other connecting to the listening machine,
but have it be "--listening" as in waiting for a request for download.
Miles suggested Woof in another area of this thread

> > Not sure why you consider ssh to be "over the top" - anybody in
> > their right mind turns off telnet and ftp as the first step in
> > securing a new installation - in favor of ssh and sftp.
> 
> Telnetd and ftpd are not installed on a new installation, so how do
> you turn them off? telnet and ftp are installed but you do not have
> to use them. ssh is overkill for the OP if he only wants to make files
> available for download. If they contained state secrets I might go
> along with you and advise the more complicated and time-consuming
> procedure of setting up ssh on both machines is worth it.
> 

Most of the time I just want the data moved (whoops, *copied*) from
host to host, with little concern for encryption. If I did want
encryption it would probably be with GPG on the file itself. :)


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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Aubrey Raech
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On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 21:07:15 -0400
Miles Fidelman  wrote:

> here's another interesting one:
> http://www.home.unix-ag.org/simon/woof.html
> 
>  From the description:
> 
> ---
> Woof (Web Offer One File) tries a different approach. It assumes that 
> everybody has a web-browser or a commandline web-client installed.
> Woof is a small simple stupid webserver that can easily be invoked on
> a single file. Your partner can access the file with tools he trusts
> (e.g. wget). No need to enter passwords on keyboards where you don't
> know about keyboard sniffers, no need to start a huge lot of
> infrastructure, just do a
> 
>   $ woof filename
> 
> and tell the recipient the URL woof spits out. When he got that file, 
> woof will quit and everything is done.
> --
> 
> Requires Python to run, and obviously needs to run on a machine where 
> people can access the resulting URL (DNS listing, IP address
> accessible to the outside world, etc.).
> 

Woof is excellent! Woof's also in the debian package repositories, as
is fex (from your previous message). Thank you for finding these, try
as I might I was unable to find any programs that do this from my own
searches.

Someone in another area of the thread commented that I wanted to "send"
a file rather than make one available for download... I should have
known I'd have to be much more explicit and precise with this crowd. ;)
Yes, the XKCD you posted sums up what I've found kind of silly for
years. Thanks again!

My next step is taking my now-unused domain name and pointing it to my
IP! :)

- -- 
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"There are two types of people in the world: those who
  can extrapolate from incomplete data."
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Re: The permissions of the apache2 log dir

2012-06-03 Thread Nicky Thomassen
On Sat, 2 Jun 2012 18:10:51 -0500
"Christofer C. Bell"  wrote:

> On Sat, Jun 2, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Titanus Eramius 
> wrote:
> > Hi list
> >
> > Last week i ran into the very restrictive folder permissions of the
> > apache2 log dir. They where "drwxr-x--- root adm" but I changed them
> > to "rwxr-xr-x root adm" so a unprivileged user may opdate
> > webalizer[1] at night.
> >
> > That got me thinking (which I generally don't like...), does anyone
> > know why the permissions are so strict, and is there a risk in the
> > change I've made beside that everybody now may read the logs?
> >
> > The answer seems to elude me.
> 
> The answer eludes you because... that's it!  There's no other risk to
> what you've done.  That said, I went the other way and stuck my user
> account in the adm group so I could read logs.
> 

Well, for some reason I am kind of disappointed. Next time around I
guess I'll put the user in adm too, so thanks for the tip and thanks
for the answer. Tit


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Re: Re (2): Computer case

2012-06-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 6/2/2012 4:42 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Sat, 2012-06-02 at 04:04 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>> The mounting holes are the same dimensions.  But the server chassis must
>> be designed for dog ear mounting.  Many/most today are designed for
>> slide rail use, meaning the dog ears alone aren't strong enough to
>> support the chassis.  Most generic 4U and larger chassis can be dog ear
>> mounted just fine.  2U/3U units will tend to bend/sag where ears attach
>> to the chassis, and nobody should ever consider dog ear mounting a 1U
>> chassis.
> 
> Around 4U is the wide of a tower. 

Yes.  4U = 1.75" x 4 = 7 inches

> I guess the mobo and cards only fit to
> 4U high, even 3U might be to small.

4U chassis will accept full height cards, and those vid cards with big
heat pipe coolers.  4U chassis are the cheapest RM units by bar.  A 4U
would best fit your needs and cost target.  Here's a good one for the $$

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811219030
http://www.norcotek.com/RPC-450B.php

Note the cheapest RM cases, WITHOUT PSUs, are the same price as a
mid/high end mini towers w/PSU.

> Perhaps a 19" case idea isn't good due to the cooling 

That case above has excellent cooling.  However, if your audio rack has
a back panel you cannot use an RM case, as the hot exhaust air would get
trapped inside the cabinet and overheat the PC.

> OTOH just small
> sidewalls (equivalent to a tower's base and top) are surrounded by the
> cabinet/rack walls. Above and below the 19" computer case I could keep
> many units empty, which also might be needed regarding to shielding
> issues, when mounted to an audio cabinet/rack.

This will not work.  The audio rack must have an open front and open
back.  If it has a back panel, simply remove it.  If you'd rather not
remove it permanently, simply remove it, cut out a rectangle the size of
the RM chassis with a Rotozip, Fein multitool, jigsaw, etc, so the
exhaust air can escape.  If the panel is cheap Masonite (pressed board)
you can cut it with a utility knife.  If none of this is possible, don't
buy a rackmount case.

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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Chris Davies
Brian  wrote:
> ssh is a waste of time and effort in the circumstances as we know them.

I wasn't suggesting ssh as an application. I was recommending ssh as
a transport, on which one would layer an application such as WinSCP
or FileZilla.

But others are already making this point so I'll sit back and continue
to watch.

Chris


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Re: Programs for direct friend-to-friend file transfer?

2012-06-03 Thread Chris Davies
Rob Owens  wrote:
> I agree with using ssh, but I'd configure it to force sftp upon login
> like this:

I figured I'd frighten the OP if I added too much complexity.


> It's simpler to just AllowUsers user1 user2 user3

Fair point in the circumstances.


>> 6.  Make sure that your password, and your friend's password on your
>> machine, is sufficiently complex that others are unlikely to guess it.
>> 
> Always a good idea, but the risk is lessened by forcing sftp [...])

Not sure you lessen the risk if the password's weak.


> Instead of using rsync, use FileZilla or another FTP client [...]

I had assumed the OP was talking about a Linux environment. Otherwise
why would they have been posting to this list?

Chris


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Re: xml editor ?

2012-06-03 Thread Jeremy Allard
Frank McCormick  writes:

> I am trying out a window manager which uses XML (uugh!) for it's
> configuration file.
> Making changes with a text editor has almost blinded me...what is the 
> "best" GUI editor which handles XML ??
>
> Thanks
>
>
> -- 
> Cheers
> Frank
You should check out the xml-mode in emacs.


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