date:20120608

El Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:22:35 -0300, JAP escribió:

 El jue, 07-06-2012 a las 13:19 +, Camaleón escribió:
 El Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:21:11 -0300, JAP escribió:

  Soy uno de los culpables, gracias a Evolution(1), que no permite
  configurar las cuentas en forma independiente de las que son para la
  red interna, donde sí me interesa la lectura de mensajes, y las
  externas, como ésta.
 
 Es una mala excusa.
 
 A ver, quien necesite atender ese tipo de confirmaciones (algo que me
 parecen del todo inútiles porque dependes del receptor y de su
 configuración del cliente de correo, pero bueno...) pues lo pueden
 configurar para que se avise al usuario antes de mandar el mensajito de
 turno. Si ves que se va para la dirección de la lista, le dices que no
 lo quieres enviar y ya está.
 
 Dime dónde configuro eso.
 Porque por lo que he trasteado el programa, o pide confirmación siempre,
 o no la pide nunca.
 En Evolution, Editar, Preferencias, Preferencias del Editor, lo único
 que hay es un Siempre solicitar confirmación de lectura. Si lo
 activas, es para todas las cuentas, si lo desactivar, no pide
 confirmación nunca.

Pero yo no me refiero a eso sino a la respuesta. 

A ver, tú puedes solicitar confirmación de lectura siempre que quieras, 
el problema está en que los acuses de recibo no se deben enviar más que a 
los destinatarios que lo soliciten y sean legítimos (p. ej., si tú 
solicitas un acuse de recibo a los usuarios de esta lista y los 
receptores -nosotros- tenemos debidamente configurados nuestros clientes 
de correo pues la sangre no llega al río, vamos, que no pasa nada, te 
ignoramos y punto :-)

En Evolution 3.2.2 (el que lleva wheezy) esto se puede configurar por 
cada cuenta de manera independiente. Puedes decirle que mande siempre, 
que no mande nunca o que pregunte.

 Y yo suelo escribir una media de 10 mensajes diarios dentro de la
 corporación de los cuales necesito me confirmen la lectura, unos 4 o 5
 hacia internet, donde los receptores no son esta lista, y con suerte,
 uno o dos por semana a la lista.

 Muy distinto funciona IceDove, donde uno tiene un control absoluto e
 independiente cuenta por cuenta.

Eso ya es cosa tuya y cómo quieras configurarlo pero el problema no está 
tanto en solicitar el acuse de recibo sino en cómo se gestionan por parte 
de los receptores.

 Le echaré un vistazo a http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

Ya contarás si te sirve de algo.

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Re: Clientes de correo para listas (era: [OT] Re: No leído: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3)

El Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:13:14 -0300, Emiliano M. Rudenick escribió:

 El Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:23:06 + (UTC) Camaleón noela...@gmail.com
 escribió:

(...)

  Disculpen la molestia pero cual recomiendan para alguien como yo que
  es novato?
 
 Si no quieres complicarte mucho la vida, empieza con Evolution que ya
 lo debes de tener instalado en tu equipo.
 
 Saludos,
 
 
 Y claws-mail =? es el que uso yo, se instala en menos de lo que canta un
 gallo y es un excelente cliente de correo, muy flexible, liviano,
 configurable y extensible a través de plugins. Mucho más rápido que
 Evolution y diría que hasta más simple de usar y poderoso.

El único problema que le veo es que no tiene soporte completo para html 
(si no recuerdo mal, permite visualizar correos en html pero no 
reenviarlos o responderlos manteniendo el formato).

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Re: [OT] Re: No leído: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3

El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 08:42:30 -0300, Debian GMail escribió:

 El 07/06/12 10:19, Camaleón escribió:

(...)

 Pues no sé cómo andará en Thunderbird en este tema (digo, con la
 integración en Exchange) pero si mal no recuerdo nuestro primo (Ubuntu)
 lo ha elegido como cliente predeterminado en las nuevas versiones por
 lo que lo habrán debido de tener en cuenta.

 Echa un vistazo a este proyecto:

 http://davmail.sourceforge.net/


 Una vez más, GRACIAS.
 Poder usar IceDove en lugar de Evolution, es lo mejor que HOY me pudo
 pasar. Gracias a DavMail, que no lo conocía, tengo TODAS mis cuentas de
 correo en un solo cliente, y puedo configurar cada cosa en forma
 independiente. Me llevó un par de horas lograr poder conectarme al
 MS-Exchange 2003 que oficia de servidor, y funciona perfectamente. Si
 alguna vez ando por la península, te invito algunas cubatas como dicen
 por ahí.
 Y si vienes por estos lares del sur, no dudes en avisar. Prometo que en
 algún momento libre haré un enlace a esto para incluirlo
 http://wiki.debian.org/Exchange_GAL_desde_Evolution
 
 Y gracias a la lista que me llenó el buzón de respuestas.

Oye, pues qué bueno :-)

Me lo apunto por si alguien pregunta cómo integrar Thunderbird con 
Exchange, que estas cosas nunca son muy conocidas y si funciona, pues 
perfecto.

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No puedo acceder a un sitio


hola a todos tengo problemas  al acceder a este sitio


ERROR
El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir

Se encontró el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la dirección URL: 
http://foro.jovenclub.cu/


Incapaz de determinar la dirección IP a partir del nombre de la 
máquina foro.jovenclub.cu


El servidor DNS devolvió:

Name Error: The domain name does not exist.

Esto significa que el caché no ha sido capaz de resolver el nombre de 
máquina presente en la URL. Compruebe que la dirección sea correcta.


Su administrador del caché es ad...@ida.cu.


Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para 
todos


A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer


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Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

2012-06-08 Thread Gonzalo Rivero

El vie, 08-06-2012 a las 11:02 -0400, l...@ida.cu escribió: 
 hola a todos tengo problemas  al acceder a este sitio
 
 
 ERROR
 El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir
 
 Se encontró el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la dirección URL: 
 http://foro.jovenclub.cu/
 
  Incapaz de determinar la dirección IP a partir del nombre de la 
 máquina foro.jovenclub.cu
 
 El servidor DNS devolvió:
 
  Name Error: The domain name does not exist.
 
 Esto significa que el caché no ha sido capaz de resolver el nombre de 
 máquina presente en la URL. Compruebe que la dirección sea correcta.
 
 Su administrador del caché es ad...@ida.cu.
 
 
 Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para 
 todos
 
pues... que ese subdominio no existe. ¿está bien el dns de jovenclub.cu?
Al menos desde fuera, veo jovenclub.cu (200.55.154.1) pero no
foro.jovenclub.cu


 A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer
 
 


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Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

2012-06-08 Thread Roberto Quiñones

El día 8 de junio de 2012 11:02, l...@ida.cu escribió:
hola a todos tengo problemas al acceder a este sitio

ERROR
El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir

Se encontró el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la dirección URL:
http://foro.jovenclub.cu/

Incapaz de determinar la dirección IP a partir del nombre de la máquina
foro.jovenclub.cu

El servidor DNS devolvió:

Name Error: The domain name does not exist.

Esto significa que el caché no ha sido capaz de resolver el nombre de
máquina presente en la URL. Compruebe que la dirección sea correcta.

Su administrador del caché es ad...@ida.cu.

Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para
todos

A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer

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El dominio jovenclub.cu esta funcionando, el problema es del
subodminio foro.jovenclub.cu el cual no esta apuntando a ningún lado.

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Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

 hola a todos tengo problemas  al acceder a este sitio


 ERROR
 El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir

 Se encontrÃ³ el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la direcciÃ³n URL:
 http://foro.jovenclub.cu/

  Incapaz de determinar la direcciÃ³n IP a partir del nombre de la
 mÃ¡quina foro.jovenclub.cu

 El servidor DNS devolviÃ³:

  Name Error: The domain name does not exist.

 Esto significa que el cachÃ© no ha sido capaz de resolver el nombre de
 mÃ¡quina presente en la URL. Compruebe que la direcciÃ³n sea correcta.

 Su administrador del cachÃ© es ad...@ida.cu.


 Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para
 todos

 A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer


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apretastes socio ..eso le esta saliendo a todo el mundo en CUBA ..desde
INFOMED tambien da lo mismo.. quisas pusieron el foro solo para la red de
los Joven clubs para la otra pon OT delante del tema ...


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[OT] Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:02:42 -0400, luis escribió:

 hola a todos tengo problemas  al acceder a este sitio
 
 
 ERROR
 El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir
 
 Se encontró el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la dirección URL:
 http://foro.jovenclub.cu/
 
  Incapaz de determinar la dirección IP a partir del nombre de la
 máquina foro.jovenclub.cu
 
 El servidor DNS devolvió:
 
  Name Error: The domain name does not exist.

(...)

 Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para
 todos
 
 A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer

Estando donde estás no debería extrañarte :-)

Veamos:

sm01@stt008:~$ host foro.jovenclub.cu
Host foro.jovenclub.cu not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

No existe... contacta con el administrador de ese dominio, deben de tener 
un problema de configuración.

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Debian 6 desinstalar Exim4


Buenos dias a todos

Que comando puedo usar en la consola para desinstalar todo el exim4 de 
Debian 6 pues no lo necesito para usar en maquinas clientes


Agradezco a todos la ayuda


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Re: Debian 6 desinstalar Exim4

2012-06-08 Thread Roberto Quiñones

apt-get –purge remove exim4-.\*

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Re: Debian 6 desinstalar Exim4

El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:41:54 -0400, luis escribió:

 Que comando puedo usar en la consola para desinstalar todo el exim4 de
 Debian 6 pues no lo necesito para usar en maquinas clientes

Necesitarás tener algún enrutador de correo, aunque sea el exim ligero 
(exim4-daemon-light) o algún otro de similares características.

Si no sabes los comandos exactos para ejecutar las tareas relacionadas 
con el mantenimiento de los paquetes puedes usar aptitude.

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Servidor de Correo con GNU/Linux (Debian Squeeze)]

2012-06-08 Thread Osvaldo Benítez Aliaga

Saludos colegas: Tengo montado un MDaemon y quiero montar mi servidor de
correo con GNU/Linux específicamente trabajo con Debian Squeeze. Por
favor alguien que me pueda ayudar con esto. Saludos 


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Re: Servidor de Correo con GNU/Linux (Debian Squeeze)]

El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:36:00 -0400, Osvaldo Benítez Aliaga escribió:

(evita el formato html, gracias)

 Saludos colegas: Tengo montado un MDaemon y quiero montar mi servidor de
 correo con GNU/Linux específicamente trabajo con Debian Squeeze. Por
 favor alguien que me pueda ayudar con esto. Saludos

Tienes varias cosas que resolver porque MDaemon engloba varios servicios 
en un sólo programa.

Servidor smtp: Postfix, Exim4, Qmail, Sendmail...
Servidor pop3/imap: Cyrus, Dovecot, Courier...
Webmail: Roundcube, SquirrelMail, Horde...
Multi-POP: Fetchmail, getmail...
Antivirus: ClamAV...
Antispam: SpamAssassin, dspam, spambayes, assp...
Pegamentos para unir lo anterior: Amavisd-New...

También tienes soluciones más completas (de tipo groupware) como 
Citadel o Zimbra, por ejemplo.

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Debian 6 y NTFS no puedo


Hola a todos

Caso nuevo para mi como lo soy en linux pero sigo avanzando y agradezco 
toda la ayuda cuando la he necesitado pero cietamente hay que estudiar 
pregunto a la lista cuando no me queda mas remedio


Bien al grano, el problema es que monte maquina cliente y deje una 
particion ntfs pero cuando intento copiar o borrarle algo no puedo, y es 
importante porque cuando creo al usuario que trabajara en su sesion 
tampoco puede ni yo como root


como puedo dar permisos a los usuarios de escritorios para que tengan 
acceso a sus carpetas de la particion NTFS y no pierdan su infomacion 
???


Agradezo a todos la ayuda y el tiempo


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Re: Debian 6 y NTFS no puedo

2012-06-08 Thread Santiago López Denazis

El 08/06/12 13:17, l...@ida.cu escribió:
 Hola a todos
 
 Caso nuevo para mi como lo soy en linux pero sigo avanzando y agradezco
 toda la ayuda cuando la he necesitado pero cietamente hay que estudiar
 pregunto a la lista cuando no me queda mas remedio
 
 Bien al grano, el problema es que monte maquina cliente y deje una
 particion ntfs pero cuando intento copiar o borrarle algo no puedo, y es
 importante porque cuando creo al usuario que trabajara en su sesion
 tampoco puede ni yo como root
 
 como puedo dar permisos a los usuarios de escritorios para que tengan
 acceso a sus carpetas de la particion NTFS y no pierdan su infomacion ???

  Seguramente no tengas soporte para escribir en NTFS. Es probable que
necesites instalar ntfs-3g. Te mando al privado la página de la wiki de
Debian si no tienes acceso, avisa.

 Agradezo a todos la ayuda y el tiempo

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Re: Manual git-contro de versiones

2012-06-08 Thread Juan Lavieri


El 08/06/12 07:43, Fernando C. Estrada escribió:

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 02:01:41PM +0200, Marioca wrote:

Buenas Lista; estoy buscando un manual en español del software para
control de versiones git si alguien tiene experiencias con el mismo y
de donde podría descargarme.-

No esta completa la traducción y desconozco la calidad de la misma, sin
embargo este libro [0] me resultó muy útil a mi y por ello me inclino a
recomendarlo (acá [1] la liga en español)).

Saludos,

[0] http://www.git-scm.com/book/
[1] http://www.git-scm.com/book/es/

La traducción es excelente y está completo.

Saludos.


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Re: Debian 6 y NTFS no puedo

El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:17:23 -0400, luis escribió:

 Bien al grano, el problema es que monte maquina cliente y deje una
 particion ntfs pero cuando intento copiar o borrarle algo no puedo, 

¿Qué error te aparece? Los mensajes de error son muy importantes.

 y es importante porque cuando creo al usuario que trabajara en su sesion
 tampoco puede ni yo como root
 
 como puedo dar permisos a los usuarios de escritorios para que tengan
 acceso a sus carpetas de la particion NTFS y no pierdan su infomacion
 ???

Ejecuta mount y pon la salida, seguramente se deba a un problema de 
permisos.

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Re: [OT] Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

 El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:02:42 -0400, luis escribiÃ³:

 hola a todos tengo problemas  al acceder a este sitio


 ERROR
 El URL solicitado no se ha podido conseguir

 Se encontrÃ³ el siguiente error al intentar recuperar la direcciÃ³n URL:
 http://foro.jovenclub.cu/

  Incapaz de determinar la direcciÃ³n IP a partir del nombre de la
 mÃ¡quina foro.jovenclub.cu

 El servidor DNS devolviÃ³:

  Name Error: The domain name does not exist.

 (...)

 Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para
 todos

 A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer

 Estando donde estÃ¡s no deberÃa extraÃ±arte :-)

 Veamos:

 sm01@stt008:~$ host foro.jovenclub.cu
 Host foro.jovenclub.cu not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)

 No existe... contacta con el administrador de ese dominio, deben de tener
 un problema de configuraciÃ³n.

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Camaleon compadre no aprietes con mi tierra patria ..mira que te tengo
mucho aprecio...cualquiera tiene problemas..jejejeje
un abrazo


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Re: Debian 6 y NTFS no puedo

 El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:17:23 -0400, luis escribiÃ³:

 Bien al grano, el problema es que monte maquina cliente y deje una
 particion ntfs pero cuando intento copiar o borrarle algo no puedo,

 Â¿QuÃ© error te aparece? Los mensajes de error son muy importantes.

 y es importante porque cuando creo al usuario que trabajara en su sesion
 tampoco puede ni yo como root

 como puedo dar permisos a los usuarios de escritorios para que tengan
 acceso a sus carpetas de la particion NTFS y no pierdan su infomacion
 ???

 Ejecuta mount y pon la salida, seguramente se deba a un problema de
 permisos.

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pero esa particion ntfs para que es? tienes doble buteo en la pc? o algo
por el estilo ? porque sino no veo sentido ese ntfs...


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Re: [OT] Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:37:47 -0400, Ing Osniel Fariñas Sánchez escribió:

 El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:02:42 -0400, luis escribiÃ³:

 Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para
 todos

 A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer

 Estando donde estÃ¡s no deberÃa extraÃ±arte :-)

(...)

 Camaleon compadre no aprietes con mi tierra patria ..mira que te tengo
 mucho aprecio...cualquiera tiene problemas..jejejeje un abrazo

No aprieto... sólo soy realista }:-)

Y no, cualquiera no tenemos los problemas que tenéis allá, eso te lo 
aseguro; sois una especie de rara avis en lo que concierne a Internet.

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Re: Debian 6 y NTFS no puedo

2012-06-08 Thread Debian GMail


El 08/06/12 13:17, l...@ida.cu escribió:

Hola a todos

Caso nuevo para mi como lo soy en linux pero sigo avanzando y agradezco
toda la ayuda cuando la he necesitado pero cietamente hay que estudiar
pregunto a la lista cuando no me queda mas remedio

Bien al grano, el problema es que monte maquina cliente y deje una
particion ntfs pero cuando intento copiar o borrarle algo no puedo, y es
importante porque cuando creo al usuario que trabajara en su sesion
tampoco puede ni yo como root

como puedo dar permisos a los usuarios de escritorios para que tengan
acceso a sus carpetas de la particion NTFS y no pierdan su infomacion ???

Agradezo a todos la ayuda y el tiempo





¡¡¡Luis, hermano, tanto tiempo!!!
Vamos mejorando, pero seguís mandando los correos en HTML.

Acá vamos:
Instálate los controladores de discos New Technology File System
# apt-get install ntfs-3g

Luego, edita el archivo que controla el montaje de los sistemas de archivos
# nano /etc/fstab

Y en él, agrega una línea que diga, por ejemplo (es toda una línea, se 
corta por el correo, mantén las columnas ordenadas que es buena práctica)


UUID=44ECAA27ECAA136A /media/ntfs ntfs-3g 
force,rw,users,auto,utf8,umask=0 0 0


¿Qué es UUID? Es tu disco y partición lógica donde está la partición 
Windows-NT.

¿Cómo lo obtienes?
# blkid
...
/dev/sdb1: UUID=44ECAA27ECAA136A TYPE=ntfs
...

/media/ntfs es donde se montará el disco cada vez que arranque el 
sistema. Debes crear la carpeta, y le pones el nombre que te plazca.

# mkdir /media/ntfs

ntfs-3g es el controlador que te permite acceder a las particiones Win-NT.

force,rw,users,auto,utf8,umask=0 son los permisos para que se monte 
automáticamente y que cualquier usuario lo pueda usar, y además, indican 
la codificación de caracteres que dicho disco usa. Si no lo cargas, las 
eñes y los acentos te van a dar dolores de cabeza.


0 0 eso va a final, no te lo olvides.

Ante dudas,
$ man mount
$ man ntfs-3g
$ man fstab

JAP



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Debian 6 Delay Pool


Hola Listeros dudas con ancho de banda

A ver si me pueden aclarar

yo tengo un enlace a 128k y necesito que los usuarios administrativos 
naveguen a 16 kb/s y el otro grupo de usuarios lo hagan a 9 kb/s  la 
descarga de ficheros lo harian a 4 kb/s para no afectar la navegacion.


Como debo escribir esto???

Toda esta configuracion va al final de mi conf del squid?

delay_pools 2
delay_class 1 2
delay_parameters 1 -1/-1 -1/-1

acl red_local src 192.168.0.0/24
o servidores con su acl

delay_access 1 allow red_local
o servidores

delay_class 2 2
delay_parameters 2 duda/duda

Este parametro nose donde ubicarlo creo que va antes
delay_initial_bucket_level 75% pero no se si es mejor 90% aclarenme 
este tambien


Lamento algunas preguntas pero tengo dudas y quiero ahcer las cosas 
bien y que todos disfruten de la navegacion al menos con lo que tenemos, 
hay que ser justos.


Gracias  a todos por la ayuda


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Re: Manual git-contro de versiones

2012-06-08 Thread Pablo Jiménez

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 02:01:41PM +0200, Marioca wrote:
 Buenas Lista; estoy buscando un manual en español del software para
 control de versiones git si alguien tiene experiencias con el mismo y
 de donde podría descargarme.-
 
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 Per quanto riguarda
 Marioca

En Debian, hay un paquete para el Git Magic original en inglés:

http://www-cs-students.stanford.edu/~blynn/gitmagic/intl/es/

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Re: Debian 6 Delay Pool

2012-06-08 Thread Yoslan Raul


en delay_access 1

te falta poner deny all



El 6/8/2012 2:54 PM, l...@ida.cu escribió:

delay_access 1




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Re: [OT] Re: No puedo acceder a un sitio

 El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 13:37:47 -0400, Ing Osniel FariÃ±as SÃ¡nchez
 escribiÃ³:

 El Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:02:42 -0400, luis escribiÃÂ³:

 Que puede ser eso y claro que no esta denegado esta libre acceso para
 todos

 A ver si me pueden dar una ayuda con eso, no se que mas hacer

 Estando donde estÃÂ¡s no deberÃÂa extraÃÂ±arte :-)

 (...)

 Camaleon compadre no aprietes con mi tierra patria ..mira que te tengo
 mucho aprecio...cualquiera tiene problemas..jejejeje un abrazo

 No aprieto... sÃ³lo soy realista }:-)

 Y no, cualquiera no tenemos los problemas que tenÃ©is allÃ¡, eso te lo
 aseguro; sois una especie de rara avis en lo que concierne a Internet.

 Saludos,

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hay mas opción,solo tratamos que el mundo sea mejor con lo poco que
tenemos ..no tomes la misma posición de esdebian.org ...
se te estima por tu conocimiento ...llegate un dia por alla y te aseguro
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Re: [OT] Re: No leído: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3

2012-06-08 Thread Debian GMail


El 08/06/12 08:42, Debian GMail escribió:

El 07/06/12 10:19, Camaleón escribió:

El Wed, 06 Jun 2012 15:21:11 -0300, JAP escribió:


Echa un vistazo a este proyecto:

http://davmail.sourceforge.net/

Saludos,



Una vez más, GRACIAS.
Poder usar IceDove en lugar de Evolution, es lo mejor que HOY me pudo
pasar.
Gracias a DavMail, que no lo conocía, tengo TODAS mis cuentas de correo
en un solo cliente, y puedo configurar cada cosa en forma independiente.
Me llevó un par de horas lograr poder conectarme al MS-Exchange 2003 que
oficia de servidor, y funciona perfectamente.
Si alguna vez ando por la península, te invito algunas cubatas como
dicen por ahí.
Y si vienes por estos lares del sur, no dudes en avisar.
Prometo que en algún momento libre haré un enlace a esto para incluirlo
http://wiki.debian.org/Exchange_GAL_desde_Evolution

Y gracias a la lista que me llenó el buzón de respuestas.

JAP




Prometido es deuda:

http://wiki.debian.org/Exchange_GAL_desde_IceDove


JAP


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Re: Clientes de correo para listas (era: [OT] Re: No leído: Debian 6 para PC Pentium 3)

2012-06-08 Thread Emiliano M. Rudenick

El Fri, 8 Jun 2012 14:12:58 + (UTC)
Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 El Thu, 07 Jun 2012 20:13:14 -0300, Emiliano M. Rudenick escribió:
 
  El Thu, 7 Jun 2012 13:23:06 + (UTC) Camaleón
  noela...@gmail.com escribió:
 
 (...)
 
   Disculpen la molestia pero cual recomiendan para alguien como yo
   que es novato?
  
  Si no quieres complicarte mucho la vida, empieza con Evolution que
  ya lo debes de tener instalado en tu equipo.
  
  Saludos,
  
  
  Y claws-mail =? es el que uso yo, se instala en menos de lo que
  canta un gallo y es un excelente cliente de correo, muy flexible,
  liviano, configurable y extensible a través de plugins. Mucho más
  rápido que Evolution y diría que hasta más simple de usar y
  poderoso.
 
 El único problema que le veo es que no tiene soporte completo para
 html (si no recuerdo mal, permite visualizar correos en html pero no 
 reenviarlos o responderlos manteniendo el formato).
 
 Saludos,
 

Es verdad, solo adjuntarlos, por eso es especial para listas como dice
el asunto :)
Los de claws-mail consideran que el correo HTML es algo no deseado.
Por otra parte, la visualización de los mismos es muy buena con el
plugin que integra Webkit, claws-mail-fancy-plugin en Debian.

Saludos!


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Re: Servidor de Correo con GNU/Linux (Debian Squeeze)]

2012-06-08 Thread Fabián Bonetti

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 11:36:00 -0400
Osvaldo Benítez Aliaga fcfinf...@inder.cu wrote:

Primero mira si tu isp no te filtra los puertos necesarios que usa el servidor 
de correo.


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Re: Outras dúividas sobre iptables e roteamento

2012-06-08 Thread Moksha Tux

Ah! Sim, agora entendi. Que cabeçudo eu sou... Na segunda trago novidades a
todos vcs. Abraços,

Moksha

Em 7 de junho de 2012 22:29, Eden Caldas edencal...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Do jeito que você colocou seria se fosse feito direto na linha de comando.


 Em 7 de junho de 2012 21:51, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Do jeito que eu coloquei não funcionou mas na segunda irei testar da forma
 que o Paulo Ricardo aconselhou.

 Moksha

 Em 7 de junho de 2012 19:37, Eden Caldas edencal...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Moksha

 Quando eu li seu e-mail pensei exatamente o que Paulo Ricardo respondeu.

 Colocando da forma que você colocou no interfaces, está funcionando?

 Verifica com o comando route -n


 Em 7 de junho de 2012 12:47, Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com escreveu:

 Prezado Paulo Ricardo!

 Muito obrigado pela sua resposta, esse comando eu coloquei realmente
 abaixo da interface onde gostaria adicionar esta rota mas pelo que vi no
 seu e-mail o comando não era adequado, o estranho é que esse comando que
 usei *( route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 10.203.0.1 )* eu
 pesquisei na internet e dos diversos exemplos que olhei, este mesmo comando
 se encontrava no arquivo interfaces e abaixo da interface desejada. Mas de
 qualquer forma muito obrigado pela sua valorosa ajuda. Abraços,

 Moksha

 Em 7 de junho de 2012 10:54, Paulo Ricardo Bruck 
 paulo...@contatogs.com.br escreveu:

 Bom dia

 - Mensagem original -
  De: Moksha Tux gova...@gmail.com
  Para: Eden Caldas edencal...@gmail.com
  Cc: Forum Debian debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
  Enviadas: Quarta-feira, 6 de Junho de 2012 22:49:50
  Assunto: Re: Outras dúividas sobre iptables e roteamento
  Grande Eden!
 
  E mesmo se não tivesse, não precisaria do gateway padrão, apenas uma
  nova rota.
 
  Então a linha que adicionei no arquivo interfaces que aparece
 abaixo
  parece não estar adiantando e isso retirando o gateway da rede 10.203
  veja:
 
  route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 10.203.0.1 .

 ok eu não segui todo o histórico m as se vc quer adicionar rotas
 estaticas no arquivo /etc/network/interfaces ao menos saiba como fazer da
 forma correta...  man interfaces  na parte IFACE OPTIONS


 ok se vc não sabia ou não leu o man, a maneira correta é colocar
 debaixo da interface que vc deseja:

up route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw
 10.203.0.1 || true

  mas dê preferencia para o modelo de rotas do man iproute

 up iproute add 10.0.0.0/24 via 10.203.0.1 dev eth1 ||
 true

 ats





 
  Note que estou adicionando o acesso a toda rede 10 mas mesmo assim as
  outras VLANs não estão tendo acesso ao firewall mas somente a rede
  10.203. Será que eu devo incluir rota estática para cada vlan? A
 saber
  10.10, 10.100, 10.200, etc... ?
 
  Moksha
 
 
  Em 6 de junho de 2012 14:15, Eden Caldas  edencal...@gmail.com 
  escreveu:
 
 
 
  Mas se então se eu não puder declarar o gateway da rede 10.203 como
  esta interface se comunicará com as redes das VLANs? 
 
  Ele não precisa de gateway pois já está com IP configurado nessa
  própria rede e conectado diretamente nela.
 
  E mesmo se não tivesse, não precisaria do gateway padrão, apenas uma
  nova rota. O gateway padrão nada mais é do que uma rota que será
 usada
  quando nenhuma das outras rotas der jeito.
 
 
  Em 6 de junho de 2012 10:18, Moksha Tux  gova...@gmail.com 
  escreveu:
 
 
 
 
  Meu querido Eden!
 
  Quanto tempo... rsrsrs estou amadurecendo cada vez mais no conceito
 de
  iptables e chegou a hora de fazer o meu humilde script funcionar mas
  estou deparando com uma outra barreira... o roteamento dos pacotes
 das
  VLANs. eu possuo em minha rede um switch router com 13 VLANs
  leventadas neles e uma das VLANs é uma rede que tem somente uma
  interface do roteador plugada nela, a VLAN 10.203. Possuo alguns IPs
  válidos aqui para trabalhar com serviços da internet e tudo que estou
  fazendo aqui é baseado nas configurações dos antigos roteadores que
  estão em produção (PF com OpenBSD). Não estou sabendo como bolar as
  rotas das redes das VLANs para que saiam para a internet, abaixo
 segue
  meu arquivo interfaces do Debian onde configuro toda a rede.
 
 
  allow-hotplug eth0
  iface eth0 inet static
  address 200.20.116.50
  netmask 255.255.255.192
  network 200.20.116.0
  broadcast 200.20.116.63
  gateway 200.20.116.1
 
  iface eth0:0 inet static
  address 200.20.116.52
  netmask 255.255.255.192
 
  iface eth0:1 inet static
  address 200.20.116.53
  netmask 255.255.255.192
 
  iface eth0:2 inet static
  address 200.20.116.54
  netmask 255.255.255.192
 
 
  allow-hotplug eth1
  iface eth1 inet static
  address 10.203.0.2
  netmask 255.255.0.0
  network 10.203.0.0
  broadcast 10.203.255.255
  gateway 10.203.0.1
  route add -net 10.0.0.0 netmask 255.0.0.0 gw 10.203.0.1
 
  allow-hotplug eth2
  iface eth2 inet static
  address 172.16.0.1
  netmask 255.255.0.0
  network 172.16.0.0
  broadcast 172.16.255.255
 
  Devo dizer

Re: [OFF TOPIC] Configurar vários sites no Apache

2012-06-08 Thread Paulo Ricardo Bruck



- Mensagem original -
 De: Marcelo Luiz de Laia marcelol...@gmail.com
 Para: debian-user-portuguese debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
 Enviadas: Sexta-feira, 8 de Junho de 2012 17:17:06
 Assunto: [OFF TOPIC] Configurar vários sites no Apache
 Prezado,
 
 Vou configurar um servidor para servir dois sites. Li que a melhor
 maneira seria fazer por meio de Virtual Host. Até aqui, tudo
 tranquilo.
 
 Mas, em um dos dois domínio, eu preciso ter sitios pessoais. Por
 exemplo, no dominio virtual www.virtual1.org, eu desejo que se possa
 ter:
 
 www.virtual1.org/~joao
 www.virtual1.org/~maria
 www.virtual1.org/~jose
 
 O outro dominio, na mesma maquina e com o mesmo IP seria:
 
 www.virtual2.org/
 
 No Apache, os dois dominios seriam assim:
 
 NameVirtualHost *
 ServerName www.virtual1.org
 DocumentRoot /home/www/htdocs/virtual1.org
 ServerAdmin webmas...@virtual1.org
 ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/www.virtual1.org-error_log
 CustomLog /var/log/apache2/www.virtual1.org-access_log common
 
 ServerName www.virtual2.org
 DocumentRoot /home/www/htdocs/virtual2.org
 ServerAdmin webmas...@virtual2.org
 ErrorLog /var/log/apache2/www.virtual2.org-error_log
 CustomLog /var/log/apache2/www.virtual2.org-access_log common
 
 A dúvida é como faço para os sitios pessoais com ~(til)?

veja em 

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/mod/mod_userdir.html

ou procure por: userdir + apache


 
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OI está bloqueando o acesso ao sitio do Debian

Eu tenho velox e não estou conseguindo acessar o site do debian
www.debian.org

Alguem está passando por isso?

Eu so consigo acessar usando o Tor.

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Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso ao sitio do Debian

2012-06-08 Thread Dyego Cantu

Olá,

Verifica se você está usando proxy e desative se estiver.

Abs

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2012/6/8 Marcelo Luiz de Laia marcelol...@gmail.com

 Eu tenho velox e não estou conseguindo acessar o site do debian
 www.debian.org

 Alguem está passando por isso?

 Eu so consigo acessar usando o Tor.

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Re: Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso ao sitio do Debian

Não estou usando proxy.

Pelo contrário, eu so consigo acessar o sitio do debian se eu usar um
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Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

Outra coisa: seu trocar o DNS da OI pelo do google (8.8.8.8), eu também
consigo acessar.

Ou seja, a OI está blçoqueando sim o acesso.

Como posso fazer pra provar isso e como proceder para denunciar a OI por
essa prática? Tem jeito de fazer isso?

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Res: Re: OI est á bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

2012-06-08 Thread jmhenrique

Sem querer ser muito otimista e sem fazer pouco caso da sua revolta, parece ser 
*somente* o dns deles com problemas.  

Quando muito o link internacional deles  pode estar c/ problemas esotéricos de 
roteamento.  Se fosse um bloqueio mesmo, não iriam deixar usar um dns que não o 
deles, muito menos o tor, que alias funciona porque da uma volta imensa no 
globo.

E além do mais, seria mais fácil eles penalizarem os usuários  reduzindo 
propositalmente a velocidade a um determinado grupo de sites/protocolos/portas 
do que bloqueando na cara dura. 

Relaxe, use o do google, ou do opendns ou instale um bind na sua maquina. DNS 
nunca foi o forte das teles brazucas (pelo menos ate algum tempo atrás). 

Faz anos q não uso dns de operadora, e sou mto feliz =) 

[]'s
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Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 20:15:31 
To: debian-user-portuguese@lists.debian.org
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Subject:  Re: OI est á bloqueando o acesso
aositio do Debian

Outra coisa: seu trocar o DNS da OI pelo do google (8.8.8.8), eu também
consigo acessar.

Ou seja, a OI está blçoqueando sim o acesso.

Como posso fazer pra provar isso e como proceder para denunciar a OI por
essa prática? Tem jeito de fazer isso?

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Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

2012-06-08 Thread contato...@gmail.com

Bom...

Como você consegue acessar ao trocar o DNS ou quando utiliza um proxy,
pode ser apenas um problema de resolução de nomes.

Como falei anteriormente, estou no ASN da OI e consigo acessar
normalmente o debian.org.

Faça o seguinte, dê uma verificada na resolução do DNS... É
interessante você dar um flush no cache do DNS antes dos testes...

Veja minha rota de resolução de DNS para o Debian.org:

 dig +trace debian.org

;  DiG 9.7.3  +trace debian.org
;; global options: +cmd
.   43513   IN  NS  j.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  g.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  a.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  c.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  m.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  h.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  i.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  d.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  k.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  b.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  e.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  f.root-servers.net.
.   43513   IN  NS  l.root-servers.net.
;; Received 449 bytes from 10.61.178.150#53(10.61.178.150) in 3 ms

org.172800  IN  NS  a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.172800  IN  NS  a2.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.172800  IN  NS  b0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.172800  IN  NS  b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.172800  IN  NS  c0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.172800  IN  NS  d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
;; Received 433 bytes from 192.203.230.10#53(e.root-servers.net) in 498 ms

debian.org. 86400   IN  NS  ns4.debian.com.
debian.org. 86400   IN  NS  ns1.debian.org.
debian.org. 86400   IN  NS  ns3.debian.org.
debian.org. 86400   IN  NS  ns2.debian.org.
;; Received 214 bytes from 199.19.54.1#53(b0.org.afilias-nst.org) in 193 ms

debian.org. 3600IN  A   86.59.118.148
debian.org. 3600IN  A   128.31.0.51
debian.org. 3600IN  A   82.195.75.97
debian.org. 28800   IN  NS  ns3.debian.org.
debian.org. 28800   IN  NS  ns1.debian.org.
debian.org. 28800   IN  NS  ns2.debian.org.
debian.org. 28800   IN  NS  ns4.debian.com.
;; Received 306 bytes from 82.195.75.108#53(ns3.debian.org) in 258 ms




Em 8 de junho de 2012 20:15, Marcelo Luiz de Laia
marcelol...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Outra coisa: seu trocar o DNS da OI pelo do google (8.8.8.8), eu também
 consigo acessar.

 Ou seja, a OI está blçoqueando sim o acesso.

 Como posso fazer pra provar isso e como proceder para denunciar a OI por
 essa prática? Tem jeito de fazer isso?

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Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

2012-06-08 Thread Fabricio Cannini

Em 8 de junho de 2012 20:15, Marcelo Luiz de Laia
marcelol...@gmail.com escreveu:
 Outra coisa: seu trocar o DNS da OI pelo do google (8.8.8.8), eu também
 consigo acessar.

 Ou seja, a OI está blçoqueando sim o acesso.

 Como posso fazer pra provar isso e como proceder para denunciar a OI por
 essa prática? Tem jeito de fazer isso?

Não atribua à malícia o que pode ser explicado pela incompetência. ;)


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Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

Hummm! Acho que há algum problema entre meu roteador wireless e o modem!

:~$ dig +trace debian.org

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  +trace debian.org
;; global options: +cmd
.  516579   IN  NS  c.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS
;e.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS  g.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS
;h.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS  l.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS
;m.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS  f.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS
;k.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS  b.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS
;a.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS  i.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS
;d.root-servers.net.
.   516579  IN  NS  j.root-servers.net.
;; Received 464 bytes from 192.168.254.254#53(192.168.254.254) in 6719
;ms

org.172800  IN  NS  c0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.172800  IN  NS
b0.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.172800  IN  NS  a2.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.172800  IN  NS
a0.org.afilias-nst.info.
org.172800  IN  NS  b2.org.afilias-nst.org.
org.172800  IN  NS
d0.org.afilias-nst.org.
;; Received 430 bytes from 192.228.79.201#53(192.228.79.201) in 3475 ms

debian.org. 86400 IN   NS
ns1.debian.org.
debian.org. 86400   IN  NS  ns2.debian.org.
debian.org. 86400   IN  NS  ns3.debian.org.
debian.org. 86400   IN  NS
ns4.debian.com.
dig: couldn't get address for 'ns1.debian.org': not found


Seu eu tento para outro site, por exemplo o do Amazon, eis o resultado:

:~$ dig +trace amazon.com

;  DiG 9.8.1-P1  +trace amazon.com
;; global options: +cmd
.  516346   IN  NS  k.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS
;b.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS  a.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS
;i.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS  d.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS
;j.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS  c.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS
;e.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS  g.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS
;h.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS  l.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS
;m.root-servers.net.
.   516346  IN  NS  f.root-servers.net.
;; Received 512 bytes from 192.168.254.254#53(192.168.254.254) in 4343
;ms

com.172800  IN  NS  b.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS
c.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS  e.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS
f.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS  h.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS
a.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS  i.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS
d.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS  m.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS
g.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS  l.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS
k.gtld-servers.net.
com.172800  IN  NS  j.gtld-servers.net.
;; Received 500 bytes from 192.36.148.17#53(192.36.148.17) in 7354 ms

amazon.com. 172800 IN  NS
pdns3.ultradns.org.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS  pdns4.ultradns.org.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS
pdns1.ultradns.net.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS  pdns2.ultradns.net.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS
pdns5.ultradns.info.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS  pdns6.ultradns.co.uk.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS
ns1.p31.dynect.net.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns3.p31.dynect.net.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS
ns2.p31.dynect.net.
amazon.com. 172800  IN  NS  ns4.p31.dynect.net.
;; Received 434 bytes from

Re: Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

 Não atribua à malícia o que pode ser explicado pela incompetência.
 ;)

Fato! Inclusive, pode ser incompetência minha! 100% minha!

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Dica de tutorial de nslookup e DNS

2012-06-08 Thread Adonai Silveira Canez

Pessoal, eu escrevi um tutorial sobre a utilização do nslookup e algumas
dicas de funcionamento de DNS e SPF, espero que seja útil para alguém. Caso
alguem ache alguma informação errada no artigo por favor me avisar para que
eu possa arrumar.
Eu estou trabalhando num artigo sobre a configuração de servidores DNS
Master e Slave no Debian, quando conseguir terminar eu posto aqui acho que
vai ser bem util, pois todos os tutorias que abordavam o assunto em
portugues eram copias de um mesmo original e nenhum deles falava de
servidor slave.

http://www.adonai.eti.br/wordpress/2012/06/dicas-de-utilizacao-do-nslookup/

Adonai

Re: Re: OI está bloqueando o acesso aositio do Debian

2012-06-08 Thread Adonai Silveira Canez

Marcelo, o mais provável é que pode ter acontecido algum ataque no servidor
de DNS da OI que vocês está usando e ele fez muitas requisições para o
servidor de DNS do debian e por isso ele foi bloqueado por esse servidor,
isso costuma se resolver em algumas horas no máximo dias.Tenta daqui a
algumas horas e verifica se segue acontecendo.
Tambem pode acontecer de você reiniciar a tua conexão e na mudança de IP
você acaba trocando de DNS e isso já resolve, verifica se segue utilizando
o mesmo DNS quando reiniciar a sua conexão.

2012/6/8 Marcelo Luiz de Laia marcelol...@gmail.com

  Não atribua à malícia o que pode ser explicado pela incompetência.
  ;)

 Fato! Inclusive, pode ser incompetência minha! 100% minha!

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RE: System crashes for no apparent reason

2012-06-08 Thread Nathan D'elboux

But how would i start it without X?

It is very gui intensive --- by the time i get a chance to login, there's
already some kind of gui there.

You could try something like this to kill X from starting

mv S04xdm s04xdm (depending on whether you use gdm or xdm of course :)

then init wont boot the gui, I'm pretty sure that works anyway

Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:26:15 -0700
Subject: Re: System crashes for no apparent reason
From: dan.h...@gmail.com
To: karl.jorgen...@nice.com
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Karl E. Jorgensen
karl.jorgen...@nice.com wrote:

An experiment which may exclude the video drivers from the equation:
Try NOT starting X ? If it still crashes without X ever being
started, then it points towards the problem being elsewhere...

Hi Karl,

A real dumb question for you:

I also have a sort of crashey/freezey system (although presumably not
exactly the same as Marc's).

But how would i start it without X?

It is very gui intensive --- by the time i get a chance to login, there's
already some kind of gui there.

I don't suppose there's some kind of boot option i can set because
X runs on top of the kernel, but i suppose that somewhere, somehow
i can tell the system that the next time it comes up to not bring up X?

TIA for any info.

dan

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Re: System crashes for no apparent reason

2012-06-08 Thread Dan Hitt

Thanks Andre and Nathan,

In fact, Andre's suggestion of adding text to the boot options
just works (so i made another menu entry in my grub,
with just the word 'text' added to the options).

And . . . like magic . . . it comes up as text.

(So i didn't have to mess with anything in /etc/rc.d)

The only thing unsatisfactory is that my caps-lock is gone
(normally i like to map caps-lock to control, but it just doesn't
seem to function at all in this text mode). However, hopefully
if i can isolate my problem then i won't have to deal with
it too much.

Thanks again!!

dan

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 11:10 PM, Nathan D'elboux naf...@hotmail.com wrote:

But how would i start it without X?

It is very gui intensive --- by the time i get a chance to login, there's
already some kind of gui there.

You could try something like this to kill X from starting

mv S04xdm s04xdm (depending on whether you use gdm or xdm of course :)

then init wont boot the gui, I'm pretty sure that works anyway

Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 22:26:15 -0700
Subject: Re: System crashes for no apparent reason
From: dan.h...@gmail.com
To: karl.jorgen...@nice.com
CC: debian-user@lists.debian.org

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:32 AM, Karl E. Jorgensen
karl.jorgen...@nice.com wrote:

An experiment which may exclude the video drivers from the equation:
Try NOT starting X ? If it still crashes without X ever being
started, then it points towards the problem being elsewhere...

Hi Karl,

A real dumb question for you:

I also have a sort of crashey/freezey system (although presumably not
exactly the same as Marc's).

But how would i start it without X?

It is very gui intensive --- by the time i get a chance to login, there's
already some kind of gui there.

TIA for any info.

dan

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[OT] kernel debugging question

2012-06-08 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis

I was wondering, if anyone is into this kind of stuff: what kind of
kernel programming bug can completely bring down the kernel and system?
I am referring to a complete lockup: no screen output, no keyboard
response, even with serial keyboard, not even the keyboard LEDs respond,
no netconsole, no kernel panic, no crash dump, no messages in any log,
it can't even be detected by NMI watchdog, and it doesn't trigger KDB
(kernel debugger) if it is enabled. Just a freeze, that requires
hardware reset.

I would say it's a hardware fault, except it's shared by many people,
and the common denominator is the ath9k driver. A bug is reported [1]
but I'd like to help solve it.

Best regards, Panayiotis

[1] https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=42903


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Re: MySQL stored procedure slow with recent Wheezy upgrade

2012-06-08 Thread Chen Gang

Hi

I encounter exactly same problem, default configuration shipped by
package cannot resolve the problem.

Gang


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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Claudius Hubig

Hello Miles,

Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:
 Or is entering a new key a manual process (type in the 50 hex digit
 key)?

Something like that, yes. Either via an already-signed update at
runtime or manually at something like the current BIOS interfaces.

 Can there be multiple keys (I vaguely recall the article saying there
 could only be one key [at MS's insistence]...but not sure if I really
 understood what it was saying)?

At the moment, only one key can be used to _sign_ software/drivers.
There can be more than one key on your computer to verify these
signatures.

That is, a driver A can be only be signed by one entity (1) and
driver B can only be signed by 2, but if you have both the public
keys of 1 and 2 in your UEFI keystore, you can load driver A and
driver B. Of course, it is also possible to distribute variants A'
and A'' signed by 2 and 3.

Best regards,

Claudius
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Re: linux-vserver (or equvalent) in wheezy

2012-06-08 Thread Jon Dowland

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 12:58:16AM +0400, Darren Baginski wrote:
 Looks promising. Is there any infrastructure around yet?  I mean init scripts
 for auto start , /etc/ files like the same for linux-vserver ?

This was recently discussed on -devel, and several people commented that there
isn't yet good userland support for the LXC container mechanism.  At present,
there are no plans for vserver or openvz kernel packages in wheezy, so wheezy
is not going to have any well-supported container mechanism.

Many might feel that this is a problem.  I think that the kernel maintainers
may be short of time for supporting the other versions.

Personally, I'm moving all our (non-Debian) vservers to KVM virtual machines,
despite not being as lightweight, for two main reasons: one, the advantage of
having distinct kernels per instance; two, the weightiness is not a problem
on the newer hardware we have.


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Password salt

2012-06-08 Thread Lars Noodén

The hashed password + salt is stored in /etc/shadow.  Where is the
actual password salt for Debian stored?

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: Password salt

2012-06-08 Thread Alberto Fuentes


On 06/08/2012 10:57 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:

The hashed password + salt is stored in /etc/shadow.  Where is the
actual password salt for Debian stored?

Regards,
/Lars




From what i see, the password salt is different for each password... so 
i guess its different each time a password is generated. It makes sense 
since its saved along the password itself, so its more secure than 
having a single salt, at no extra cost


greets!
aL


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Re: Password salt

2012-06-08 Thread Lars Noodén

On 6/8/12 12:02 PM, Alberto Fuentes wrote:
 On 06/08/2012 10:57 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:
 The hashed password + salt is stored in /etc/shadow.  Where is the
 actual password salt for Debian stored?

 Regards,
 /Lars


 
 From what i see, the password salt is different for each password... so
 i guess its different each time a password is generated. It makes sense
 since its saved along the password itself, so its more secure than
 having a single salt, at no extra cost
 
 greets!
 aL
 
 

Yes, I understand that the salt is different and random for each
password, but how is it stored so that the hash can be used for
authentication?  Sorry for the dumb questions.

Regards,
/Lars


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Re: Password salt

2012-06-08 Thread Alberto Fuentes


On 06/08/2012 11:05 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:

On 6/8/12 12:02 PM, Alberto Fuentes wrote:

On 06/08/2012 10:57 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:

The hashed password + salt is stored in /etc/shadow.  Where is the
actual password salt for Debian stored?

Regards,
/Lars




 From what i see, the password salt is different for each password... so
i guess its different each time a password is generated. It makes sense
since its saved along the password itself, so its more secure than
having a single salt, at no extra cost

greets!
aL




Yes, I understand that the salt is different and random for each
password, but how is it stored so that the hash can be used for
authentication?  Sorry for the dumb questions.

Regards,
/Lars




Oh, i misunderstand your question.

Well, as i understand it it, the password has 3 parts, differenced with a $.
$ the kind of hash $ salt $ hash


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Re: Password salt

2012-06-08 Thread Rick Thomas




On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 12:05:56 +0300, Lars Noodén wrote:

On 6/8/12 12:02 PM, Alberto Fuentes wrote:

On 06/08/2012 10:57 AM, Lars Noodén wrote:

The hashed password + salt is stored in /etc/shadow.  Where is the
actual password salt for Debian stored?



Yes, I understand that the salt is different and random for each
password, but how is it stored so that the hash can be used for
authentication?  Sorry for the dumb questions.

Regards,
/Lars


The salt is stored in the password entry in the shadow file along with 
the result of hash(salt+actualTextPassword).


The fact that the salt is public (quotes because /etc/shadow is 
readable only by root in most systems) does not detract from its 
usefulness.  Its purpose is to multiply the necessary size of the 
reverse-look-up table needed in a time-vs-space tradeoff brute-force 
attack.


It's all explained in this wikipedia article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Salt_(cryptography)

Rick


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security update glibc message

2012-06-08 Thread Curt

31 updates today for me, running squeeze, the following message in my
xterm at installation end:

unopkg done.
*** glibc detected *** 
/usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/../ure-link/bin/uno.bin: 
double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x7fdf68000fb0 ***
=== Backtrace: =
/lib/libc.so.6(+0x71bd6)[0x7fdf77d94bd6]
/lib/libc.so.6(cfree+0x6c)[0x7fdf77d9994c]
/usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_cppu.so.3(+0x22f1e)[0x7fdf78afbf1e]
/usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_cppu.so.3(+0x21a1d)[0x7fdf78afaa1d]
/usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_cppu.so.3(+0x21c98)[0x7fdf78afac98]
/usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_cppu.so.3(uno_threadpool_destroy+0x19)[0x7fdf78afb8a2]
/usr/lib/ure/lib/liburp_uno.so(+0x5037)[0x7fdf740a5037]
/usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_cppu.so.3(+0x1ac54)[0x7fdf78af3c54]
/usr/lib/ure/lib/liburp_uno.so(+0x10a43)[0x7fdf740b0a43]
/usr/lib/ure/lib/liburp_uno.so(+0x10ac0)[0x7fdf740b0ac0]
/usr/lib/ure/lib/liburp_uno.so(+0x5fda)[0x7fdf740a5fda]
/usr/lib/ure/bin/../lib/libuno_sal.so.3(+0x2e7bc)[0x7fdf78d337bc]
/lib/libpthread.so.0(+0x68ca)[0x7fdf774c68ca]
/lib/libc.so.6(clone+0x6d)[0x7fdf77df292d]

=== Memory map: 
0040-00426000 r-xp  08:01 278005 
/usr/lib/ure/bin/uno.bin
00626000-00627000 rw-p 00026000 08:01 278005 
/usr/lib/ure/bin/uno.bin
00f13000-01261000 rw-p  00:00 0  [heap]
7fdf6800-7fdf68021000 rw-p  00:00 0 
7fdf68021000-7fdf6c00 ---p  00:00 0 
7fdf6f762000-7fdf6f763000 ---p  00:00 0 
7fdf6f763000-7fdf6ffa4000 rw-p  00:00 0 
7fdf6ffe5000-7fdf70026000 rw-p  00:00 0 
7fdf70026000-7fdf70027000 r-xp  08:01 278129 
/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/program/pyuno.so
7fdf70027000-7fdf70226000 ---p 1000 08:01 278129 
/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/program/pyuno.so
7fdf70226000-7fdf70227000 rw-p  08:01 278129 
/usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.2/program/pyuno.so
7fdf70227000-7fdf70233000 r-xp  08:01 278014 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/invocadapt.uno.so
7fdf70233000-7fdf70433000 ---p c000 08:01 278014 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/invocadapt.uno.so
7fdf70433000-7fdf70434000 rw-p c000 08:01 278014 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/invocadapt.uno.so
7fdf70434000-7fdf70455000 r-xp  08:01 278471 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/reflection.uno.so
7fdf70455000-7fdf70655000 ---p 00021000 08:01 278471 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/reflection.uno.so
7fdf70655000-7fdf70658000 rw-p 00021000 08:01 278471 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/reflection.uno.so
7fdf70658000-7fdf70679000 r-xp  08:01 278013 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/introspection.uno.so
7fdf70679000-7fdf70879000 ---p 00021000 08:01 278013 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/introspection.uno.so
7fdf70879000-7fdf7087b000 rw-p 00021000 08:01 278013 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/introspection.uno.so
7fdf7087b000-7fdf70898000 r-xp  08:01 278475 
/usr/lib/ure/lib/stocservices.uno.so
7fdf70898000-7fdf70a98000 ---p 0001d000 08:01 278475 
/usr/lProcessing triggers for menu ...

Don't know what it all means, but a brief google seems to indicate it's
them rather than me.





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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Carl Fink

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

 The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
 Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
 don't compile Windows kernels, but Linux end users do.

No we don't. That hasn't been generally true for years.

Yes, it is *possible* to do so, but it hasn't really been common for some
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asm/ioctls.h in kernel headers

2012-06-08 Thread Bijoy Lobo

Hello all,

I have a Makefile which calls asm/ioctls.h, although I am faced with this
error,

*/usr/include/bits/ioctls.h:24:24: error: asm/ioctls.h: No such file or
directory*

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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Roger Leigh

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 06:21:46AM -0400, Carl Fink wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
  The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
  Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
  don't compile Windows kernels, but Linux end users do.
 
 No we don't. That hasn't been generally true for years.
 
 Yes, it is *possible* to do so, but it hasn't really been common for some
 time.

This is true, but it's also true of most software outside the kernel
as well.  But that is not to say that losing the freedom to do so
is unimportant, it most certainly is.


Regards,
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Re: asm/ioctls.h in kernel headers

2012-06-08 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen

On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 11:24:08AM +0100, Bijoy Lobo wrote:
 Hello all,
 
 I have a Makefile which calls asm/ioctls.h, although I am faced with this
 error,
 
 /usr/include/bits/ioctls.h:24:24: error: asm/ioctls.h: No such file or
 directory

Do you have the linux-libc-dev package installed?  This package provides 
/usr/include/asm/ioctls.h ...

If you are looking for a file which should come from a debian package,
you can search for it in your already-installed packages - e.g.:

   dpkg --search /usr/include/asm/ioctls.h

for searching packages you do not (yet) have installed, try 
http://packages.debian.org under the heading Search the contents of packages 
- there are files of that name in several packages:


http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contentskeywords=ioctls.hmode=exactfilenamesuite=stablearch=any

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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Roger Leigh

On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 09:33:45PM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 1:46 AM, Miles Bader mi...@gnu.org wrote:
  Scott Ferguson scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com writes:
  You can't disable the code signing requirement on ARM.
 
  ... which is a great deal more worrying.
 
  Yes. And no.
  I'd hate to see a situation where it was impossible to buy an ARM (or
  other CPU based board) without UEFI that can be disabled - but I support
  devices that can be made to *only* run signed code *provided* MS is
  *not* the certificate agency.
 
  Would that mean anybody who wants to build their own kernel would need
  to buy a signing key?
 
 Not at all.  You can generate your own key and load it into your UEFI.

This is of course a major part of the problem.  There are no
guarantees that you will be able to install your own keys into
your device.  That's up to the UEFI implementor.

  It's no different a situation than using self-signed ssl certs
 without buying one from a certificate authority.  There's no need to
 pay any money to anyone to use the secure boot feature.  Is it a
 hassle?  Sure, but you're not beholden to any 3rd party regardless.

If you have the ability to install your public cert, then sure.
But how many implementors will choose to provide only Microsoft's
key, and provide no facility for changing it?  For ARM systems
running Windows 8, I suspect that will be most of them.


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Re: asm/ioctls.h in kernel headers

2012-06-08 Thread Bijoy Lobo

Hi karl,

I already have the linux-libc-dev package installed. A find / -name
ioctls.h gives me this

*/usr/include/asm-generic/ioctls.h
/usr/include/bits/ioctls.h
/usr/include/asm/ioctls.h
/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/include/asm-generic/ioctls.h
/usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.32-5-common/arch/x86/include/asm/ioctls.h
*
On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Karl E. Jorgensen
karl.jorgen...@nice.comwrote:

 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 11:24:08AM +0100, Bijoy Lobo wrote:
  Hello all,
 
  I have a Makefile which calls asm/ioctls.h, although I am faced with this
  error,
 
  /usr/include/bits/ioctls.h:24:24: error: asm/ioctls.h: No such file or
  directory

 Do you have the linux-libc-dev package installed?  This package provides
 /usr/include/asm/ioctls.h ...

 If you are looking for a file which should come from a debian package,
 you can search for it in your already-installed packages - e.g.:

   dpkg --search /usr/include/asm/ioctls.h

 for searching packages you do not (yet) have installed, try
 http://packages.debian.org under the heading Search the contents of
 packages - there are files of that name in several packages:


 http://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contentskeywords=ioctls.hmode=exactfilenamesuite=stablearch=any

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what causes slogin -X to not generate a $DISPLAY variable on the server?

2012-06-08 Thread Rick Thomas



Recently, when I do slogin -X server (for one particular server, not 
all of them) the resulting session can't run any X11 utilities (e.g. 
xterm) because there is no DISPLAY variable in the environment.


It used to work.  I don't know what changed for sure.

Does anybody know what can cause this?

Thanks!

Rick


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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Slavko

Hi,

Dňa Fri, 8 Jun 2012 06:21:46 -0400 Carl Fink c...@finknetwork.com
napísal:

 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 05:26:30AM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
 
  The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
  Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
  don't compile Windows kernels, but Linux end users do.
 
 No we don't. That hasn't been generally true for years.
 
 Yes, it is *possible* to do so, but it hasn't really been common for some
 time.

Freedom is not about things, which we do often, but freedom is about
things which we can do when we want (or need).

Yes, you are right, i builded my last custom kernel cca 2 years ago. This
kernel is compiled with small size and memory requirements in mind. This
kernel (for my custom PXE backup tool) is still working for me. But when
there will be needing for new HW drivers, i will must to compile new one.

Some of my friends are often speaking about free (open) HW. I was joke
from them in past, but now i understand their ideas.

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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Rob Owens

On Thu, Jun 07, 2012 at 09:36:32PM -0500, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
 On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 5:34 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
 
  Let's be clear what this is.  I have to get *permission* from someone
  else, to run a program on my own computer.  To actually use my
  computer to do my stuff, I have to take extraordinary steps to get
  someone else to grant me access.  That's *fundamentally wrong*.
 
 No, we need to be clear that you do *not* have to get permission from
 someone else to run a program on your computer.  You can get

He needs permission from Verisign.  $99 plus whatever hoops they make
him jump through.

Imagine if you bought a new pair of pants but you couldn't wear them
until you paid Verisign.

-Rob


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postfix and hostname

2012-06-08 Thread Tony van der Hoff

Hi,

Running squeeze on my VPS, and using postfix/dovecot/cyrus as my MTA,
for a number of users, who pick up mail via IMAP (mostly Thunderbird).
Postfix is configured to accept mail for u...@vanderhoff.org, as well as
a few other domains.

The hostname for the server is set to vanderhoff.org.uk. This has been
running fine for a number of years, but I am rationalising my domains,
and want to change the hostname to vanderhoff.org. Nothing to do with
the MTA really, or so I thought.

I expected this to be as simple as editing /etc/hostname, and updating
the live hostname via the hostname command. I now have no mail coming
in. Changing the hostname back to the .uk version reverts operation to
normal.

So some misconfiguration somewhere, but I'm blowed if I can find it. Has
anyone any hints, please?

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Problem setting up a subdomain

2012-06-08 Thread Keir Snow

Hi All,

Relatively inexperienced at apache admin so please forgive any dumb
mistakes on my part!

Been trying to set up a subdomain of my site, so I've created a config
file in sites-available that looks like this:

VirtualHost *:80
ServerAdmin keir@localhost

DocumentRoot /var/www/groupblog

ServerName groupblog.mywebsite.org

Directory /
Options FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
/Directory
Directory /var/www/groupblog
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks MultiViews
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
allow from all
/Directory

ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /usr/lib/cgi-bin/
Directory /usr/lib/cgi-bin
AllowOverride None
Options +ExecCGI -MultiViews +SymLinksIfOwnerMatch
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

ErrorLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/error.log

# Possible values include: debug, info, notice, warn, error, crit,
# alert, emerg.
LogLevel warn

CustomLog ${APACHE_LOG_DIR}/access.log combined

Alias /doc/ /usr/share/doc/
Directory /usr/share/doc/
Options Indexes MultiViews FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride None
Order deny,allow
Deny from all
Allow from 127.0.0.0/255.0.0.0 ::1/128
/Directory

/VirtualHost


I've then enabled it using a2ensite however it seems to override my
default config file and serve the subdomain content when the main site
URL is used.

Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Thanks

Keir


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Re: linux-vserver (or equvalent) in wheezy

2012-06-08 Thread John A. Sullivan III

On Fri, 2012-06-08 at 09:40 +0100, Jon Dowland wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 08, 2012 at 12:58:16AM +0400, Darren Baginski wrote:
  Looks promising. Is there any infrastructure around yet?  I mean init 
  scripts
  for auto start , /etc/ files like the same for linux-vserver ?
 
 This was recently discussed on -devel, and several people commented that there
 isn't yet good userland support for the LXC container mechanism.  At present,
 there are no plans for vserver or openvz kernel packages in wheezy, so wheezy
 is not going to have any well-supported container mechanism.
 
 Many might feel that this is a problem.  I think that the kernel maintainers
 may be short of time for supporting the other versions.
 
 Personally, I'm moving all our (non-Debian) vservers to KVM virtual machines,
 despite not being as lightweight, for two main reasons: one, the advantage of
 having distinct kernels per instance; two, the weightiness is not a problem
 on the newer hardware we have.
 
 
I find there are other advantages to VServer.  We use both KVM and
VServer in our environment on hefty hardware.  Not only do the lower
requirements make a difference on highly virtualized systems (nothing
like seeing dozens of small servers running in 8MB of RAM) but there are
interesting advantages that can be gained from the shared file system
and the ability to remount portions of the host file system into the
guests.

So we certainly see the need for both.  The VServer team is incredibly
talented and helpful but also very small so we are keeping our eyes
closely on LXC.  I'm just a little concerned about the userland tools.
I had heard there was talk if util-vserver supporting LXC but I do not
know how far that integration has gotten - John


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Re: Problem setting up a subdomain

2012-06-08 Thread Jochen Spieker

Keir Snow:
 
 Been trying to set up a subdomain of my site, so I've created a config
 file in sites-available that looks like this:
-- snip
 I've then enabled it using a2ensite however it seems to override my
 default config file and serve the subdomain content when the main site
 URL is used.

The mechanics of virtual hosts vs. main server config are a little bit
weird:

http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/details.html

If I were you, I would just leave the main server config alone and
create a VirtualHost section for all domain names I want to use.

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Re: postfix and hostname

2012-06-08 Thread Benjamin Martin


On 08/06/12 13:52, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

Hi,

Running squeeze on my VPS, and using postfix/dovecot/cyrus as my MTA,
for a number of users, who pick up mail via IMAP (mostly Thunderbird).
Postfix is configured to accept mail for u...@vanderhoff.org, as well as
a few other domains.


I don't know dovecot or cyris, but I too run postfix on my VPS.


The hostname for the server is set to vanderhoff.org.uk. This has been
running fine for a number of years, but I am rationalising my domains,
and want to change the hostname to vanderhoff.org. Nothing to do with
the MTA really, or so I thought.
When you mention changing the domain but not changing any config, I 
would think looking into postfix config is a good place to start.




I expected this to be as simple as editing /etc/hostname, and updating
the live hostname via the hostname command. I now have no mail coming
in. Changing the hostname back to the .uk version reverts operation to
normal.

So some misconfiguration somewhere, but I'm blowed if I can find it. Has
anyone any hints, please?




Have a check in the logs and see if you can see mail coming in and 
getting rejected:

  tail -f /var/log/mail.*

The location of postfix config files is likely to be different from mine 
so check in your postfix config

  cat /etc/postfix/main.cf

Do you use virtual_domains?? .. if so, ensure the domain is in the 
virtual domain file:

  vi /usr/local/postfix/etc/virtual_domains

What about mappings? .. you might need to alter and regenerate the db:
vi /usr/local/postfix/etc/virtual_alias
postmap /usr/local/postfix/etc/virtual_mailbox

If you make and changes, ensure you reload postfix:
   postfix reload


Not sure if that helps at all, but thought I'd chip in my 2pence worth :)

good luck,



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Re: Problem setting up a subdomain

2012-06-08 Thread Keir Snow

Not sure I follow sorry, where would I create this section? I thought
by putting something in sites-available I was leaving the main config
alone?

Keir

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Jochen Spieker m...@well-adjusted.de wrote:
 Keir Snow:

 Been trying to set up a subdomain of my site, so I've created a config
 file in sites-available that looks like this:
 -- snip
 I've then enabled it using a2ensite however it seems to override my
 default config file and serve the subdomain content when the main site
 URL is used.

 The mechanics of virtual hosts vs. main server config are a little bit
 weird:

 http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/vhosts/details.html

 If I were you, I would just leave the main server config alone and
 create a VirtualHost section for all domain names I want to use.

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Re: Nvidia drivers problem Geforce 570

2012-06-08 Thread jeremy jozwik

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 6:20 PM, jeremy jozwik jerjoz.for...@gmail.com wrote:
sorry for not being so clear. i dont have the machine in front of me
at the moment to type out the exact error but i installed the driver
ones. the install was building the man triggers and i tossed up an
error for the nvidia driver. since then EVERYTHING i install ones
complete APT tries to fix the nvidia install and that same error shows
up.

i have just been ignoring it. everything works fine so im not very concerned.

here you go, i just updated my system last night. after the openoffice
install process apt tried to fix the nvidia install again:

Setting up openoffice.org-emailmerge (1:3.2.1-11+squeeze6) ...
Copying: mailmerge.py
Enabling: mailmerge.py

unopkg done.
Processing triggers for libgl1-nvidia-alternatives ...
update-alternatives: error: alternative path
/usr/lib/nvidia/diversions/libGL.so.1 doesn't exist.

dpkg: error processing libgl1-nvidia-alternatives (--configure):
subprocess installed post-installation script returned error exit status 2
configured to not write apport reports
Processing triggers for menu ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
libgl1-nvidia-alternatives
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
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Re: Turn Off Screen Saver

2012-06-08 Thread Patrick Wiseman

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 12:16 AM, Paul Nulandorn
paul.nuland...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 18:21 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:
 On 06.06.2012 17:21, Paul Nulandorn wrote:
  On Wed, 2012-06-06 at 10:13 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
  On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:06 AM, Paul Nulandorn
  paul.nuland...@optusnet.com.au wrote:
 
  You don't tell us what display manager you're using, but there's
  probably a power management function which is turning the screen off
  after a period of idleness.
 
  I'm using gnome 2.30.2.
 
  I checked the power management settings and the screen saver is disabled
  there also.
 

 What about turn off screen after... minutes etc. ?


 OK to be precise:

 Put display to sleep when inactive for:

 is set to

 never.

Are you on an up-to-date testing system, by any chance? I ask because
I've noticed since yesterday that my screen is blanking after about 10
minutes of inactivity even though I have the appropriate settings in
the power manager, which, in my case is the Xfce Power Manager.
Something further under the hood must be broken.

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Re: Turn Off Screen Saver

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:16:49 +1000, Paul Nulandorn wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 18:21 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 What about turn off screen after... minutes etc. ?
 
 
 OK to be precise:
 
 Put display to sleep when inactive for:
 
 is set to
 
 never.

Okay, so what we have now is that you:

1/ Have turned off the screensaver *and*
2/ Display power saving options are disabled *and*
3/ Your screen is still going to sleep after 10 minutes...

Weird...

I suppose you are not hibernanting nor suspending your computer, right?

You can run a simple test: create a new user, login with it and check if 
the same happens there so we can discard/confirm a configuration problem 
coming for your current user profile.

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Re: Turn Off Screen Saver

2012-06-08 Thread Patrick Wiseman

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:16:49 +1000, Paul Nulandorn wrote:

 On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 18:21 +0300, Mika Suomalainen wrote:

 What about turn off screen after... minutes etc. ?


 OK to be precise:

 Put display to sleep when inactive for:

 is set to

 never.

 Okay, so what we have now is that you:

 1/ Have turned off the screensaver *and*
 2/ Display power saving options are disabled *and*
 3/ Your screen is still going to sleep after 10 minutes...

 Weird...

 I suppose you are not hibernanting nor suspending your computer, right?

 You can run a simple test: create a new user, login with it and check if
 the same happens there so we can discard/confirm a configuration problem
 coming for your current user profile.

As I just reported, I'm, as of yesterday (I think), seeing the same
behavior, and I'm using Xfce, not Gnome. So I'm thinking something way
under the hood is broken, but I have no clue how to figure out what.
For me, it's just an annoyance.

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Re: security update glibc message

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:00:00 +, Curt wrote:

 31 updates today for me, running squeeze, the following message in my
 xterm at installation end:
 
 unopkg done.
 *** glibc detected ***
 /usr/lib/openoffice/program/../basis-link/program/../ure-link/bin/uno.bin: 
 double free or corruption (fasttop): 0x7fdf68000fb0 *** 

(...)

 Don't know what it all means, but a brief google seems to indicate it's
 them rather than me.

I would report this in Debian BTS.

Mmmm, there was a similar report opened:

http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=593455

Despite the backtrace, are you facing any problem with the OOo programs?

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Re: postfix and hostname

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:52:06 +0200, Tony van der Hoff wrote:

 Running squeeze on my VPS, and using postfix/dovecot/cyrus as my MTA,
 for a number of users, who pick up mail via IMAP (mostly Thunderbird).
 Postfix is configured to accept mail for u...@vanderhoff.org, as well as
 a few other domains.

As both Cyrus and Dovecot provide the same core functionalities (IMAP and 
POP3), do you have them enabled at the same time for the same purpose? :-?
 
 The hostname for the server is set to vanderhoff.org.uk. This has been
 running fine for a number of years, but I am rationalising my domains,
 and want to change the hostname to vanderhoff.org. Nothing to do with
 the MTA really, or so I thought.

Mmm, that would depend on how did you setup the MTA.
 
 I expected this to be as simple as editing /etc/hostname, and updating
 the live hostname via the hostname command. I now have no mail coming
 in. Changing the hostname back to the .uk version reverts operation to
 normal.

Can you attach the Postfix error logs? It will be of much help :-)
(remember to remove sensitive info).

 So some misconfiguration somewhere, but I'm blowed if I can find it. Has
 anyone any hints, please?

In addition, append the postconf -n output (here you can also hide any 
sensitive information it could contain).

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Re: Problem setting up a subdomain

2012-06-08 Thread Chris Davies

Keir Snow snow.k...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've then enabled it using a2ensite however it seems to override my
 default config file and serve the subdomain content when the main site
 URL is used.

 Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

Misunderstanding vHosts :-)

The _default_ entry works fine until you start adding virtual hosts. At
that point you need to stop using the _default_ entry completely and
create a vHost definition for each of the sites you want to serve.

So if you had just www.mywebsite.org working within _default_,
but now have added groupsite.mywebsite.org, you now need three
definitions: _default_ (which doesn't really get used any more),
groupsite.mywebsite.org, and www.mywebsite.org.

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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Mika Suomalainen

On 07.06.2012 03:43, Christofer C. Bell wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Roger Leigh rle...@codelibre.net wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 01:07:23PM -0400, Tom H wrote:

 What's non-free about signing the boot-chain?

 Do I have the freedom to build and install and boot my own kernel?

 No?  Looks like I lost the freedom to have any semblance of control
 over my own hardware.
 
 You have the freedom to either:
 
 a.) Disable Secure Boot and run your own kernel
 
 or
 
 b.) Generate your own signing key, sign your own kernel, and load your
 own key into your system's UEFI.
 
 You have no lost any semblance of control over your own hardware.
 

If I have understood correctly A and B depend on does your hardware
manufactor allow it and allowing is optional to them.

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Re: Problem setting up a subdomain

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 14:18:51 +0100, Keir Snow wrote:

 Relatively inexperienced at apache admin so please forgive any dumb
 mistakes on my part!
 
 Been trying to set up a subdomain of my site, so I've created a config
 file in sites-available that looks like this:

(...)

 I've then enabled it using a2ensite however it seems to override my
 default config file and serve the subdomain content when the main site
 URL is used.

What are the Apache logs saying?

 Any ideas what I'm doing wrong?

I would check two things:

1/ DNS records are properly set for the alias (cname) and/or the /etc/
hosts file if you're using virtual hosts based on names.

2/ Ensure that you don't really need the ServerAlias directive for this.

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Re: Turn Off Screen Saver

On Fri, 08 Jun 2012 10:46:09 -0400, Patrick Wiseman wrote:

 On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 10:39 AM, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote:

(...)

 Weird...

 I suppose you are not hibernanting nor suspending your computer, right?

 You can run a simple test: create a new user, login with it and check
 if the same happens there so we can discard/confirm a configuration
 problem coming for your current user profile.
 
 As I just reported, I'm, as of yesterday (I think), seeing the same
 behavior, and I'm using Xfce, not Gnome. So I'm thinking something way
 under the hood is broken, but I have no clue how to figure out what. For
 me, it's just an annoyance.

The OP seems to be using the stable branch so unless a security update 
had broken something I can't imagine what could have caused it :-?

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Re: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft

2012-06-08 Thread Christofer C. Bell

On Thu, Jun 7, 2012 at 10:26 PM, Ralf Mardorf
ralf.mard...@alice-dsl.net wrote:
 On Thu, 2012-06-07 at 23:34 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
 Let's be clear what this is.  I have to get *permission* from someone
 else, to run a program on my own computer.  To actually use my
 computer to do my stuff, I have to take extraordinary steps to get
 someone else to grant me access.  That's *fundamentally wrong*.

 +1

 Moreover that someone is Microsoft, while Linux is a rival on the
 software market and Microsoft is known for unlawful acting to get rid of
 business competition. Without being paranoid, for me there's some
 negative connotation.

No, -1, since Roger's assumption isn't true.

 The handling for the end user is optimized to fit to the needs of
 Windows end users. Slavko already has written that Windows end users
 don't compile Windows kernels, but Linux end users do.

Microsoft takes care of the code signing for the kernel they build and
provide with their operating system.  Fedora is doing the same,
utilizing Microsoft's key.  Linux users who want to compile their own
kernel and become, in effect, a distributor of a custom Linux kernel
can do the same for themselves -- generate a signing key, and sign
their own kernel -- just as Microsoft signs theirs.

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