Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 01:28:28, lina wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Chris Knadle
> wrote:
> > On Saturday, June 23, 2012 23:49:54, lina wrote:
> >> Kinda of funny,
> >>
> >> Dselect reported me that my /var has saturated. Indeed, 100%.
> >>
> >> My question is that how to set to let me know earlier when the var
> >> reached 98%. Kinda of dangerous huh?
> >
> > This is a common problem. If this is a box you're running KDE on I'd
> > suggest the freespacenotifier package. If this is a server (or doesn't
> > run KDE) then
>
> It runs with xfce4.
>
> > I'd suggest configuring the box such that you'll get email output from
> > cron, and then make a cronjob that outputs text only when the free space
> > left on filesystems reaches the desired "warning" threshold.
>
> I started to initiate a script,
>
> $ while [ df -h | grep "/dev/sda11 " | awk '{print $5}' > 90% ]; do
> sleep 1000 ; done mail l...@email.com
> bash: [: missing `]'
> bash: 90%: No such file or directory
>
> not work.
>
> Can someone recommend some build-in script which integrate the cron,
> so I can take it as template and learn from it. I don't know which one
> is the best fit, which also autorun everytime after reboot.
This evening I came up with the following quick script, "freespacewarn",
which I placed in my home directory under ~/bin :
#!/bin/bash
df -h | fgrep -v -e Filesystem | while read FS SIZE USED AVAIL PCNT_USE
MOUNTEDAT JUNK
do
export PCNT_USE
PCNT=$(echo $PCNT_USE | tr -d '%')
if [ $PCNT -gt 90 ]; then
echo "Warning: filesystem at $MOUNTEDAT nearly full."
echo " Filesystem $FS, Size $SIZE, $USED used, $AVAIL avail, $PCNT_USE
used, mounted at $MOUNTEDAT"
fi
done
Then I made a user crontab entry via 'crontab -e' to run this once a day
at 7am:
0 7 * * * /home/cknadle/bin/freespacewarn
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Re: OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 01:39:06, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Hi Chris, > > I usually have at least one Suse, one Debian, one Ubuntu and one Arch > installed, just to get one Linux, that fit to my most important needs. That sounds like it could occasionally be confusing... but also interesting. I've been meaning to try Arch, simply because it's one of the distros that I haven't yet tried. > Usually that are Debian or Ubuntu and not Suse or Arch. Perhaps I should > replace Suse with Fedora, anyway, it's hard to keep track with all > distros I'm using. Fedora is interesting in that they use SELinux by default, but I don't personally like their plans for mandating reboots for certain updates for Fedora 18. That's "too much like Windows" for my liking. I prefer Debian's restart of services after libc6 upgrades, without requiring a reboot. > AFAIK on Arch only systemd is important today, I didn't switch, OTOH I > often nag regarding to consolekit. Many distributions have switched to using systemd by default -- a few of the holdouts are Ubuntu (which uses upstart), Debian (still using sysv-rc init scripts, but now with dependency-based bootup), and Gentoo which is using OpenRC. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206240233.16529.chris.kna...@coredump.us
Re: accented characters in text console
On 2012-06-21, Chris Davies wrote: > XKBMODEL="pc105" > XKBLAYOUT="gb" > XKBVARIANT="" > XKBOPTIONS="compose:ralt,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" > > Notice that even though I chose the 105 key (Intl) keyboard, I do not > have an XKBVARIANT even though Compose is enabled and works. Mind you, > I've never really understood what the XKBVARIANT=intl is intended to > do for US and UK keyboards, as I use a Compose key to get my non-UK > characters. On a PC here Ctrl+. works as Compose with XKBMODEL="pc105" XKBLAYOUT="us" XKBVARIANT="" XKBOPTIONS="" I get "Dead" keys with XKBMODEL="pc105" XKBLAYOUT="us" XKBVARIANT="intl" XKBOPTIONS="" (I don't use this) My LANG=en_CA.UTF-8 Regards, Howard E. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a4not4f7q...@mid.individual.net
Re: OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 08:05 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > PS: > > The computer age is missing stuff like a "sacrificial anode". For > non-computer hardware there are several tricks to maintain it without > maintaining it, e.g. a "sacrificial anode". I wish there would be a > solution for computer hardware and software too. Don't mention backups! > FWIW, when I was young we used hemp to seal water pipe connections, to > climb a tree or monkey bars and still the whammy bar of my guitar might > be fixed with some pickings. Today everything is lost in non-reliable > plastic and computers even reach the quality of plastics. :( ^ don't :D -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340518015.2153.61.camel@precise
Re: OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
PS: The computer age is missing stuff like a "sacrificial anode". For non-computer hardware there are several tricks to maintain it without maintaining it, e.g. a "sacrificial anode". I wish there would be a solution for computer hardware and software too. Don't mention backups! FWIW, when I was young we used hemp to seal water pipe connections, to climb a tree or monkey bars and still the whammy bar of my guitar might be fixed with some pickings. Today everything is lost in non-reliable plastic and computers even reach the quality of plastics. :( -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340517915.2153.59.camel@precise
Re: E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
On 24/06/12 06:01, lina wrote: On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM, lina wrote: Hi, I don't know how to fix the following problem, It's fixed after changing the source.list to my former mirror. Thanks, Best regards, W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages: Hash Sum mismatch E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache Thanks ahead for the suggestions, I think that when your /var filled up, you were left with some partly downloaded files in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial and apt is trying to use those. I assume you've freed up a lot of space under /var now. Can you delete all the files uder that directory and try to update again? It is safe, as the files will be downloaded again. This leaves the question of why did /var fill up? Have you got a lot of old deb files under /var/cache/apt/archives? These can be safely got rid of with apt-get clean (unless you are keeping them for a reason). Also, apt-get autoclean will prevent them being left in there after an upgrade/install. -- Dom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe6ad7d.6030...@rpdom.net
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On 24/06/12 17:28, lina wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Chris Knadle
> wrote:
>> On Saturday, June 23, 2012 23:49:54, lina wrote:
>>> Kinda of funny,
>>>
>>> Dselect reported me that my /var has saturated. Indeed, 100%.
>>>
>>> My question is that how to set to let me know earlier when the var reached
>>> 98%. Kinda of dangerous huh?
>>
>> This is a common problem. If this is a box you're running KDE on I'd suggest
>> the freespacenotifier package. If this is a server (or doesn't run KDE) then
>
> It runs with xfce4.
>
>> I'd suggest configuring the box such that you'll get email output from cron,
>> and then make a cronjob that outputs text only when the free space left on
>> filesystems reaches the desired "warning" threshold.
>
> I started to initiate a script,
>
> $ while [ df -h | grep "/dev/sda11 " | awk '{print $5}' > 90% ]; do
> sleep 1000 ; done mail l...@email.com
> bash: [: missing `]'
> bash: 90%: No such file or directory
>
> not work.
Here's my quick attempt at a cronjob entry:
* * * * * df -P |grep [9].\%
That will report on _any_ filesystem over 90% - why restrict yourself to
only knowing about some of them?
Firstly, it runs every minute (5 stars), which was useful for testing,
but you probably don't want an email every minute until you fix it :-)
Daily may well be good enough; you could probably just put a file with
"df -P |grep [9].\%" in /etc/cron.daily.
The -P flag makes sure all the info is on one line, which it wouldn't be
on this machine, which has some long device (actually nfs share) names.
The search pattern will find any line with a 9 followed by any character
followed by a % symbol, so anything over 90%. The reason I put the 9 in
[] is to make it easier to add an 8, in case you want to know about
anything more than 80%: [89].\%
I didn't need to escape the % when I ran it from the commandline, but
did from cron. I haven't investigated why. Putting the search pattern in
quotes would probably work too.
It's a bit crude, but probably is good enough.
On the other hand, you could install a proper monitoring system such as
Nagios.
HTH :-)
Richard
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Re: OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
Hi Chris, I usually have at least one Suse, one Debian, one Ubuntu and one Arch installed, just to get one Linux, that fit to my most important needs. Usually that are Debian or Ubuntu and not Suse or Arch. Perhaps I should replace Suse with Fedora, anyway, it's hard to keep track with all distros I'm using. AFAIK on Arch only systemd is important today, I didn't switch, OTOH I often nag regarding to consolekit. http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/ConsoleKit (Tom H mentioned it on this list). Regrads, Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340516346.2153.49.camel@precise
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:49 PM, Chris Knadle wrote:
> On Saturday, June 23, 2012 23:49:54, lina wrote:
>> Kinda of funny,
>>
>> Dselect reported me that my /var has saturated. Indeed, 100%.
>>
>> My question is that how to set to let me know earlier when the var reached
>> 98%. Kinda of dangerous huh?
>
> This is a common problem. If this is a box you're running KDE on I'd suggest
> the freespacenotifier package. If this is a server (or doesn't run KDE) then
It runs with xfce4.
> I'd suggest configuring the box such that you'll get email output from cron,
> and then make a cronjob that outputs text only when the free space left on
> filesystems reaches the desired "warning" threshold.
I started to initiate a script,
$ while [ df -h | grep "/dev/sda11 " | awk '{print $5}' > 90% ]; do
sleep 1000 ; done mail l...@email.com
bash: [: missing `]'
bash: 90%: No such file or directory
not work.
Can someone recommend some build-in script which integrate the cron,
so I can take it as template and learn from it. I don't know which one
is the best fit, which also autorun everytime after reboot.
>
> I'm about to set up the same thing because there's a box I help administer
> that also regularly runs into this problem. :-/
>
>
> -- Chris
Thanks for all,
>
> --
> Chris Knadle
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>
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Re: E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 12:39:08 +0800 "lina lina.lastn...@gmail.com" suggested this: >W: Failed to fetch >gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages: >Hash Sum mismatch >E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old >ones used instead. >E: Couldn't rebuild package cache I looked for the solution to this myself some time ago, and found somewhere something about a bug and that and bzip2 had to be installed and then it worked without a hitch. Hope that helps you. Charlie -- ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** Registered Linux User:- 329524 *** Destiny is not a matter of chance, it is a matter of choice; it is not a thing to be waited for, it is a thing to be achieved... W J Bryan *** Debian GNU/Linux - just the best way to create magic ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120624150955.4f51f358@nomad
Re: OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sunday, June 24, 2012 00:39:45, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > OT for Lina's issue, but she mentioned /var. > > I wonder if for Debian there will be some wicked changes too, systemd > seems to be one common change for some distros, IIRC ( ;) ) for Debian > too. There weve several long threads about systemd on [debian-devel] in the past couple of months, and as far as I can tell the standard sysv-rc init scripts with dependency-based bootup is what will be used for the default Wheezy release. However systemd will be an option for those that want it. I've tested systemd -- for the most part it works, but it has some limitations. For one, the option to reboot the computer within KDE won't work with systemd -- when choosing the option it instead acts as if you've logged out, and you have to re-choose to reboot within the kdm login window. For another, the sysv-rc ANSI color script output is a bit prettier (IMHO) than booting up via systemd via command line options "quiet init=/bin/systemd systemd.sysv_console=true systemd.show_status=true". > Will /var soon or later be changed for most distros, inculding Debian? > > "As of filesystem-2012.6-2 the folders /var/run and /var/lock will be > replaced by symlinks to /run and /run/lock, respectively." - > http://www.archlinux.org/ Several distros seem to be experimenting with several FHS layout changes, such as merging /sbin and /usr/sbin, /bin and /usr/bin, etc. Things in /var occasionally get moved around also. For instance years ago mail used to occupy /var/spool/mail rather than today it resides in /var/mail -- and for compatability reasons there's a symlink from /var/spool/mail -> ../mail. The main issue most DDs have with several of the proposed changes I've heard about are if they lack adherence to the FHS, or if the moves somehow violate Debian Policy. -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206240107.41495.chris.kna...@coredump.us
Re: E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:39 PM, lina wrote: > Hi, > > I don't know how to fix the following problem, It's fixed after changing the source.list to my former mirror. Thanks, Best regards, > > W: Failed to fetch > gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages: > Hash Sum mismatch > E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old > ones used instead. > E: Couldn't rebuild package cache > > > Thanks ahead for the suggestions, > > Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJmmLYq8ByjACPN=J=0Hcx+SeGYROOCc3CiCRDXTP-=j...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Saturday, June 23, 2012 23:49:54, lina wrote: > Kinda of funny, > > Dselect reported me that my /var has saturated. Indeed, 100%. > > My question is that how to set to let me know earlier when the var reached > 98%. Kinda of dangerous huh? This is a common problem. If this is a box you're running KDE on I'd suggest the freespacenotifier package. If this is a server (or doesn't run KDE) then I'd suggest configuring the box such that you'll get email output from cron, and then make a cronjob that outputs text only when the free space left on filesystems reaches the desired "warning" threshold. I'm about to set up the same thing because there's a box I help administer that also regularly runs into this problem. :-/ -- Chris -- Chris Knadle chris.kna...@coredump.us -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206240049.36230.chris.kna...@coredump.us
OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
OT for Lina's issue, but she mentioned /var. I wonder if for Debian there will be some wicked changes too, systemd seems to be one common change for some distros, IIRC ( ;) ) for Debian too. Will /var soon or later be changed for most distros, inculding Debian? "As of filesystem-2012.6-2 the folders /var/run and /var/lock will be replaced by symlinks to /run and /run/lock, respectively." - http://www.archlinux.org/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340512785.2153.13.camel@precise
Re: OT: /var on another distro, was: Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 06:39 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > OT for Lina's issue, but she mentioned /var. > > I wonder if for Debian there will be some wicked changes too, systemd > seems to be one common change for some distros, IIRC ( ;) ) for Debian > too. > > Will /var soon or later be changed for most distros, inculding Debian? > > "As of filesystem-2012.6-2 the folders /var/run and /var/lock will be > replaced by symlinks to /run and /run/lock, respectively." - > http://www.archlinux.org/ PS: This wouldn't cause issues for non-RAID, non-separated-partition users, but IIRC RAID and/or users with a separated /var partition aren't that luck with Arch a the moment. I didn't check if there is a relationship to systemd. However, perhaps a package for Lina's Debian already changed something?! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340513072.2153.17.camel@precise
E: Couldn't rebuild package cache
Hi, I don't know how to fix the following problem, W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages: Hash Sum mismatch E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. E: Couldn't rebuild package cache Thanks ahead for the suggestions, Best regards, -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cag9cjmnrcpmz3jgbhen1ysnuu9n5avucp0dzkswrz2ytv7x...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 12:09 +0800, lina wrote: >> Before I thought it might the serever I used got wrong, so I changed >> my source list. > > I rebooted to Debian stable (AV Linux 5.0.3) and tested what happens > here, Western Germany around 06:17 o'clock. > > spinymouse@avlinux:~$ su > Password: > root@avlinux:/home/spinymouse# aptitude update > Get:1 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze Release.gpg [198 B] > Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze/main > Translation-en > Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze/main > Translation-en_US > Get:2 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports Release.gpg [836 > B] > Ign http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main > Translation-en > Ign http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main > Translation-en_US > Get:3 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze Release [23.8 > kB] > Get:4 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports Release [77.6 > kB] > Get:5 http://download.tuxfamily.org dev Release.gpg [198 > B] > Get:6 http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release.gpg [828 > B] > Ign http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release > Translation-en > Ign http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release > Translation-en_US > Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org/xcfaudio/xcfa/ dev/contrib > Translation-en > Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org/xcfaudio/xcfa/ dev/contrib > Translation-en_US > Get:7 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > Packages/DiffIndex [2,023 B] > Get:8 http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release [15.3 > kB] > Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze > Release.gpg > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib > Translation-en > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib > Translation-en_US > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main > Translation-en > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main > Translation-en_US > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free > Translation-en > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free > Translation-en_US > Get:9 http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze-proposed-updates Release.gpg [836 > B] > Get:10 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/contrib > Translation-en [364 B] > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/contrib > Translation-en_US > Get:11 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1124.08.pdiff [2,884 B] > Get:12 http://download.tuxfamily.org dev Release [2,425 > B] > Get:13 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1124.08.pdiff [2,884 B] > Get:14 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1124.08.pdiff [2,884 B] > Get:15 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1449.00.pdiff [31 B] > Get:16 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1449.00.pdiff [31 B] > Get:17 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1449.00.pdiff [31 B] > Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release i386 > Packages > Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org dev/contrib i386 > Packages > Get:18 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports/main i386 > Packages/DiffIndex [6,991 B] > Get:19 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/main > Translation-en [25.9 kB] > Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release i386 > Packages > Get:20 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1605.07.pdiff [2,439 B] > Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org dev/contrib i386 > Packages > Get:21 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1605.07.pdiff [2,439 B] > Get:22 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-13-1605.07.pdiff [2,439 B] > Get:23 http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release > i386 Packages [15.1 kB] > Get:24 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports/main i386 > 2012-06-15-0936.16.pdiff [1,202 B] > Get:25 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-20-1733.57.pdiff [297 B] > Hit http://www.bandshed.net squeeze > Release.gpg > Get:26 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports/main i386 > 2012-06-15-0936.16.pdiff [1,202 B] > Get:27 http://download.tuxfamily.org dev/contrib i386 Packages [1,001 > B] > Ign http://www.bandshed.net/kernels/apt/ squeeze/main > Translation-en > Ign http://www.bandshed.net/kernels/apt/ squeeze/main > Translation-en_US > Get:28 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports/main i386 > 2012-06-15-0936.16.pdiff [1,202 B] > Get:29 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 > 2012-06-20-1733.57.pdiff [297 B] > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/main > Translation-en_US > Get:30 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ > squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free Translation-en [14 B] > Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/non-free > Translation-en_US > Hit
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 12:09 +0800, lina wrote: > Before I thought it might the serever I used got wrong, so I changed > my source list. I rebooted to Debian stable (AV Linux 5.0.3) and tested what happens here, Western Germany around 06:17 o'clock. spinymouse@avlinux:~$ su Password: root@avlinux:/home/spinymouse# aptitude update Get:1 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze Release.gpg [198 B] Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze/main Translation-en Ign http://www.debian-multimedia.org/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US Get:2 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports Release.gpg [836 B] Ign http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main Translation-en Ign http://backports.debian.org/debian-backports/ squeeze-backports/main Translation-en_US Get:3 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze Release [23.8 kB] Get:4 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports Release [77.6 kB] Get:5 http://download.tuxfamily.org dev Release.gpg [198 B] Get:6 http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release.gpg [828 B] Ign http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release Translation-en Ign http://mozilla.debian.net/ squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release Translation-en_US Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org/xcfaudio/xcfa/ dev/contrib Translation-en Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org/xcfaudio/xcfa/ dev/contrib Translation-en_US Get:7 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex [2,023 B] Get:8 http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports Release [15.3 kB] Hit http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze Release.gpg Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/contrib Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/main Translation-en_US Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free Translation-en Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze/non-free Translation-en_US Get:9 http://ftp.us.debian.org squeeze-proposed-updates Release.gpg [836 B] Get:10 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/contrib Translation-en [364 B] Ign http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/contrib Translation-en_US Get:11 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 2012-06-13-1124.08.pdiff [2,884 B] Get:12 http://download.tuxfamily.org dev Release [2,425 B] Get:13 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 2012-06-13-1124.08.pdiff [2,884 B] Get:14 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 2012-06-13-1124.08.pdiff [2,884 B] Get:15 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 2012-06-13-1449.00.pdiff [31 B] Get:16 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 2012-06-13-1449.00.pdiff [31 B] Get:17 http://www.debian-multimedia.org squeeze/main i386 2012-06-13-1449.00.pdiff [31 B] Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/iceweasel-release i386 Packages Ign http://download.tuxfamily.org dev/contrib i386 Packages Get:18 http://backports.debian.org squeeze-backports/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex [6,991 B] Get:19 http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ squeeze-proposed-updates/main Translation-en [25.9 kB] Ign http://mozilla.debian.net squeeze-backports/ice
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
Hi, Before I thought it might the serever I used got wrong, so I changed my source list. but it has new problem as: W: Failed to fetch gzip:/var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ftp.us.debian.org_debian_dists_wheezy_main_binary-amd64_Packages Hash Sum mismatch E: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead. On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 11:49 AM, lina wrote: > Kinda of funny, > > Dselect reported me that my /var has saturated. Indeed, 100%. > > My question is that how to set to let me know earlier when the var reached > 98%. Kinda of dangerous huh? > > Thanks again, > > Lina > > On 24 Jun, 2012, at 11:43, lina wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> When I used aptitude update. >> >> The aptitude chocked there with >> 100% [Waiting for headers] >> And a blinking cursor at the end. >> >> I guess something wrong, I can't enter into the login interface with the >> driver intact in the last days. >> >> Thanks with best regards, >> >> Lina -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAG9cJm=JtkGgwA06vckQd4yea4bhkrmzMYC0wjf3zToc7=q...@mail.gmail.com
Re: 100% [Waiting for headers]
Kinda of funny, Dselect reported me that my /var has saturated. Indeed, 100%. My question is that how to set to let me know earlier when the var reached 98%. Kinda of dangerous huh? Thanks again, Lina On 24 Jun, 2012, at 11:43, lina wrote: > Hi, > > When I used aptitude update. > > The aptitude chocked there with > 100% [Waiting for headers] > And a blinking cursor at the end. > > I guess something wrong, I can't enter into the login interface with the > driver intact in the last days. > > Thanks with best regards, > > Lina -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/3a808264-0dc8-43fa-8efc-864774fb9...@gmail.com
100% [Waiting for headers]
Hi, When I used aptitude update. The aptitude chocked there with 100% [Waiting for headers] And a blinking cursor at the end. I guess something wrong, I can't enter into the login interface with the driver intact in the last days. Thanks with best regards, Lina -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/11392b74-ec77-414c-89de-abf5debaf...@gmail.com
Re: The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook within a deb
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 16:23 -0700, Regid Ichira wrote: > Many (most?) packages with extensive documentation offer a deb > so that the documentation will be available locally. > Am I right that there is no deb offering the Debian Linux Kernel > Handbook? Is it reasonable to file a wishlist bug for that matter? http://packages.debian.org/unstable/main/debian-kernel-handbook http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/debian-kernel-handbook At the moment I'm not booted to Debian, but the Ubuntu Precise repositories provide 1.0.12. However, at least Wheezy and Sid provide 1.0.13. AFAIK Wheezy will become stable soon. - Ralf -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340509154.2980.155.camel@precise
Re: wordpress, again [SOLVED]
WordPress was generating bad URL/pathnames sometimes... My .htaccess was all screwed up, which broke the Permalinks. Wordpress seems to be a very nicely done piece of software -- it already knew what was wrong, and when somebody over there told me where to look, there was the text, waiting to be pasted into my file. Finding documentation like I have for my Cisco router is still a significant problem, though -- I can't imagine how that guy knew what was wrong... I do wish they'd used C (or equivalent) to write it. Thanks for your suggestions. -- Glenn English hand-wrapped from my Apple Mail -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cddfd846-f94b-4d43-9acb-9d6558077...@slsware.com
Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
T Elcor wrote at 2012-06-23 18:09 -0600: > --- On Sat, 6/23/12, green wrote: > > virtualbox for a full GUI or kvm for full functionality > > via CLI > > I wonder if kvm will work without enabling virtualization option in the > BIOS. Guest OS performance isn't a priority for me (while host OS is), so I > don't care about hardware acceleration. kvm will work without virtualization, either automatically or using instead the qemu executable. If your hardware supports virtualization, I recommend enabling it: without it, kvm will use more CPU time, lower both host and guest performance (as I understand it). signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: A qualified "Yes" - was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
Richard Owlett wrote: Joe wrote: [snip] There are various references on the Net to 'Debian From Scratch' but they seem to refer to installing Debian using various methods rather than actually compiling it from source. I think (c)debootstrap has already been mentioned in this context. "debootstrap" had not been mentioned that I recall. It will save me from reinventing wheel. Unfortunately it won't. In my quick scan of the documentation I misread the first sentence of http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap . It states: "debootstrap is a tool which will install a Debian base system into a subdirectory of another, *_already installed system_* ." [EMPHASIS added] [snip] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe679ee.9000...@cloud85.net
Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
--- On Sat, 6/23/12, green wrote: > virtualbox for a full GUI or kvm for full functionality > via CLI I wonder if kvm will work without enabling virtualization option in the BIOS. Guest OS performance isn't a priority for me (while host OS is), so I don't care about hardware acceleration. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340496598.60889.yahoomailclas...@web121901.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
The Debian Linux Kernel Handbook within a deb
Many (most?) packages with extensive documentation offer a deb so that the documentation will be available locally. Am I right that there is no deb offering the Debian Linux Kernel Handbook? Is it reasonable to file a wishlist bug for that matter? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340493823.99562.yahoomailclas...@web120702.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: Was and is: Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 22:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Sorry, joe1assis...@gmail.com chimed in, I'm curious if editing the > > subject, will keep the spam away > > It does! No it doesn't :(, there just is a little bit more delay. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340482886.2980.138.camel@precise
Re: Was and is: Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
> Sorry, joe1assis...@gmail.com chimed in, I'm curious if editing the > subject, will keep the spam away It does! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340482746.2980.136.camel@precise
Was and is: Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 22:13 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 13:51 -0600, green wrote: > > T Elcor wrote at 2012-06-23 11:19 -0600: > > > I'm looking into running Windows XP as guest on a Debian Wheezy box. The > > > hardware is fairly recent (should support virtualization) and Windows XP > > > will be used only occasionally, not a production environment, so the goal > > > is to have an easy virtualization setup that minimally impacts the host > > > OS > > > (Debian). > > > > > > Any ideas? Thanks > > > > virtualbox for a full GUI or kvm for full functionality via CLI > > I'm running VBox on Arch with XP SP2 as guest, to be able to use iTunes > (more or less). VBox suffers from the fact, that USB is a very, very, > very, weak point. Sorry, joe1assis...@gmail.com chimed in, I'm curious if editing the subject, will keep the spam away. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340482651.2980.134.camel@precise
Re: A qualified "Yes" - was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
Joe wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:30:55 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
Richard Owlett wrote:
I did not use the term "alternate" as that already has a
specific meaning in this context.
I also used "contrarian" instead of "experimental" to
emphasize I'm looking for something aimed at a different
target audience.
My experiments have demonstrated that the Debian installer
team has producer a very robust product which meets the
needs/desires of a very large percentage of its intended
audience.
Having recently read the announcement of apt-offline version
1.2, I think something I'd like would be possible.
What I would like to have:
CLI, dial up on a full analog modem (USB connection), WiFi
connectivity, apt-offline.
Options I would likely download almost immediately:
X11, a very simple GUI (NOT a 'desktop _environment_),
Tcl/Tk& gnuplot (I've existing projects).
TIA
It appears that I can reach my goal using netinst.iso.
I doubt that few, if any, would recommend my goals or route.
From my reading, I suspect that I'm headed down a path
similar to an old/abandoned project for a highly
customizable small footprint Linux install. [Can't recall
the project's name.]
I any case I'll learn the guts of Linux. I'm retired so I've
time and no _outside_ constraints.
Thanks to all.
If you really do have plenty of time, you might want to look at Linux
From Scratch.
As you wrote I was telling Neal that was the project I was
trying to recall.
I built a couple of systems in its early days, before I
settled on Debian, mainly to try to get some understanding of what is
really necessary in a Linux system. It's all very well to say 'just
remove the packages you don't need' but which are they?
Even if you don't fancy the fairly tedious slog of actually compiling a
Linux system completely from source (and I gave up at the command
line, I didn't go on to add X), the documentation ('The Book') contains
information that might be of interest to you. The current one is:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/LFS-BOOK-7.1.pdf
There are various references on the Net to 'Debian From Scratch' but
they seem to refer to installing Debian using various methods rather
than actually compiling it from source. I think (c)debootstrap has
already been mentioned in this context.
"debootstrap" had not been mentioned that I recall.
It will save me from reinventing wheel.
Useful pages may include:
http://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap
http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/426
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/debootstrap
http://wiki.debian.org/EmDebian/CrossDebootstrap
http://www.digriz.org.uk/debian/debootstrap
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Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 13:51 -0600, green wrote: > T Elcor wrote at 2012-06-23 11:19 -0600: > > I'm looking into running Windows XP as guest on a Debian Wheezy box. The > > hardware is fairly recent (should support virtualization) and Windows XP > > will be used only occasionally, not a production environment, so the goal > > is to have an easy virtualization setup that minimally impacts the host OS > > (Debian). > > > > Any ideas? Thanks > > virtualbox for a full GUI or kvm for full functionality via CLI I'm running VBox on Arch with XP SP2 as guest, to be able to use iTunes (more or less). VBox suffers from the fact, that USB is a very, very, very, weak point. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340482385.2980.132.camel@precise
Hardware problems -- was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
Camaleón wrote: On Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:13:31 -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: (...) As I write I was doing another test install. It appeared to proceed normally up until I was instructed to remove the CD. Seems to have crashed with a bunch of error message. Error messages are very important :-) You can take a snapshot with a standard DSC camera or using cell phone's one and upload the image somewhere (www.picpaste.com) so we can check for that logs. From the form of the messages I suspect bad memory. I'll have to retry and pay closer attention to the screen. Now just where did I put memtest ;< According to the FAQ: http://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/index.en.html The netinst ISO contains the required packages to get the system running, so back to your first question: yes, it is possible to install a bare system with this image and no Internet connection. The installed system won't be suitable for text based servers nor even small appliances, you'll need to get more packages once the installer finishes, you first login and setup the system basics (source repositories, network connections...). Test procedure notes 1. Delete all existing partitions - used GParted CD as I had been examining things with it 2. Will not use internet at all but will take advantage that there are wifi servers nearby for which I lack passwords. Installer will attempt to connect, it will fail and I will use the option to configure at another time in order to skip internet for rest of install. 3. Do reasonably standard install of from 6.0.3 Gnome Live CD - exceptions noted a. Chose "Text Install" from LiveCD menu b. when DHCP network configuration failed as expected chose not to configure network c. chose manual partitioning : 10GB Primary Partition, Ext3, mount as / 4GB swap 4. A _appeared_ to go 'normal'. Instructed to remove CD so system could reboot. Hung with a long list of what were apparently error messages 5. not touching anything on the disk attempt a Ubuntu 10.10 install 6. Chose "Install Ubuntu" from Welcome screen do not chose "download updates while installing" nor "third party software" manual partitioning - 10 GB ext3 as / 7. The Ubuntu install had also installed memtest86 v4.x Running 6 repetitions showed NO errors. Implies the problem(s) I observed @ #4 above were probably not memory failures. 8. Found a copy of a Segate Disk Test - Ran all tests - all pass 9. Debian LXDE install - chose text install- lots of defaults until DHCP failed as expected 10 do not configure network at this time :/ 11 chose manual partition - 10GB ext3 as / -- not sure if existing swap will be recognized - really need real time video :< LOL - seems to work ;/ next day ;) 12. Attempted to boot the LXDE just installed in "rescue" mode - it hung apparently waiting for the built in touch pad. Powered off 13. Attempted boot same LXDE but in "normal" mode. It hung. But 3 lines up I noticed instruction to hit Cntl-D to proceed. I did. It did ;] 14. Repeated Step 3. This time it failed at the same point but without displaying any messages. 15. Powered off and rebooted. Appeared normal accepting user password. However it rejected root's password when attempting to access "Root Terminal" under "Accessories" sub-menu. Other installs seem to act normally. I've seen root's password being rejected before. It was what prompted me to remove Windows Vista Home edition and follow the steps just listed. CONCLUSION: I've some flaky hardware. After warranty period, used computers are definitely "caveat emptor". With 4 Linuxes now installed, I still have only one SWAP partition - proves at least one problem was "operator error" ;! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe62105.4050...@cloud85.net
Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 21:35 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 14:14 +, Camaleón wrote: > > Anyway, after reading this post I feel as if I were living in the > > dinosaurce era > > Take a look at Brad's record collection. If you have any of his records, > than you are a dino. I don't have the same records, but my are from the > same ages. Or if you should have one of this hairstyles http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZbjseBPjhw&feature=related , than you're lost. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XhQRFO4M7A&feature=related The music sometimes is a little bit to white for my taste, I prefer Jimi. MC5 could you please stop playing pentatonic scales up and down, today we don't play such solos anymore, for good reasons. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340481749.2980.128.camel@precise
Re: Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
T Elcor wrote at 2012-06-23 11:19 -0600: > I'm looking into running Windows XP as guest on a Debian Wheezy box. The > hardware is fairly recent (should support virtualization) and Windows XP > will be used only occasionally, not a production environment, so the goal > is to have an easy virtualization setup that minimally impacts the host OS > (Debian). > > Any ideas? Thanks virtualbox for a full GUI or kvm for full functionality via CLI signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sun, 2012-06-24 at 03:05 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:45:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote: > > > [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip] > > > P.S. I can't CC, sorry! > > > > So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). However, I send carbon > > +1 > > "Does a falling tree make a sound when there is no one around to hear > it." > Now I know what that saying/proverb means. Philosophy for beginners, so we can continue with the Plato's allegory of the cave :D. At the end we all will become educated, just because we're subscribed to Debian user list :). An unwanted side effect. There wasn't a warning! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340480332.2980.121.camel@precise
Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 14:14 +, Camaleón wrote: > Anyway, after reading this post I feel as if I were living in the > dinosaurce era Take a look at Brad's record collection. If you have any of his records, than you are a dino. I don't have the same records, but my are from the same ages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340480149.2980.117.camel@precise
Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
OT for the OT: Brad's record collection. I'm getting old :D. From "Wire" YouTube linked to "Butthole Surfers". However I asked Google to give me some Hüska Dü instead :p. I at least should get "Zen Arcade" on vinyl, still on my list to buy before that are the MC5's "Babes in Arms" and everything from Radio Birdman. Man, I hope your records are on vinyl and not on CD. Hard Rock unplugged :) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jzu49liJ93U -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340479870.2980.115.camel@precise
Re: A qualified "Yes" - was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
Neal Murphy wrote: On Saturday 23 June 2012 13:30:55 Richard Owlett wrote: It appears that I can reach my goal using netinst.iso. I doubt that few, if any, would recommend my goals or route. I'd certainly recommend your approach over building your own distro! Although I might give Linux From Scratch a plug. If learning's your goal andit isn't too low-level for you, you'll learn a lot about how GNU/Linux is built from source packages. *BINGO* - see below ;/ From my reading, I suspect that I'm headed down a path similar to an old/abandoned project for a highly customizable small footprint Linux install. [Can't recall the project's name.] Puppy Linux? Damn Small Linux? Puppies, DSL, Tiny Core etc. was where I started after deciding Ubuntu Wasn't for me. Although I considered Puppies overweight with missing required features and it was unclear if DSL could access a suitable code library, they demonstrated that one could do a lot in far less than 1 *FULL* CD. "Linux From Scratch" is the project I was thinking of. I discounted it at the time as I last did compile-link-load ~30 years ago. No thanks. There is probably much there that will help me define my project goals. You just saved me a lot of searching. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe60bff.1060...@cloud85.net
Re: A qualified "Yes" - was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:30:55 -0500
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Richard Owlett wrote:
> > I did not use the term "alternate" as that already has a
> > specific meaning in this context.
> > I also used "contrarian" instead of "experimental" to
> > emphasize I'm looking for something aimed at a different
> > target audience.
> >
> > My experiments have demonstrated that the Debian installer
> > team has producer a very robust product which meets the
> > needs/desires of a very large percentage of its intended
> > audience.
> >
> > Having recently read the announcement of apt-offline version
> > 1.2, I think something I'd like would be possible.
> >
> > What I would like to have:
> > CLI, dial up on a full analog modem (USB connection), WiFi
> > connectivity, apt-offline.
> >
> > Options I would likely download almost immediately:
> > X11, a very simple GUI (NOT a 'desktop _environment_),
> > Tcl/Tk & gnuplot (I've existing projects).
> >
> > TIA
> >
>
> It appears that I can reach my goal using netinst.iso.
> I doubt that few, if any, would recommend my goals or route.
>
> From my reading, I suspect that I'm headed down a path
> similar to an old/abandoned project for a highly
> customizable small footprint Linux install. [Can't recall
> the project's name.]
>
> I any case I'll learn the guts of Linux. I'm retired so I've
> time and no _outside_ constraints.
>
> Thanks to all.
>
If you really do have plenty of time, you might want to look at Linux
From Scratch. I built a couple of systems in its early days, before I
settled on Debian, mainly to try to get some understanding of what is
really necessary in a Linux system. It's all very well to say 'just
remove the packages you don't need' but which are they?
Even if you don't fancy the fairly tedious slog of actually compiling a
Linux system completely from source (and I gave up at the command
line, I didn't go on to add X), the documentation ('The Book') contains
information that might be of interest to you. The current one is:
http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/downloads/stable/LFS-BOOK-7.1.pdf
There are various references on the Net to 'Debian From Scratch' but
they seem to refer to installing Debian using various methods rather
than actually compiling it from source. I think (c)debootstrap has
already been mentioned in this context.
--
Joe
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Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Saturday 23 June 2012 11:02:27 Harshad Joshi wrote: > Hello to admins and mailing list managers... > > I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the > list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is > preventing mails from getting in? #help Harshad, This is the first email I have received from you. Perhaps the lack of response is due to your emails not getting through. Have you checked? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206231856.49438.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: A qualified "Yes" - was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
On Saturday 23 June 2012 13:30:55 Richard Owlett wrote: > It appears that I can reach my goal using netinst.iso. > I doubt that few, if any, would recommend my goals or route. I'd certainly recommend your approach over building your own distro! Although I might give Linux From Scratch a plug. If learning's your goal andit isn't too low-level for you, you'll learn a lot about how GNU/Linux is built from source packages. > > From my reading, I suspect that I'm headed down a path > similar to an old/abandoned project for a highly > customizable small footprint Linux install. [Can't recall > the project's name.] Puppy Linux? Damn Small Linux? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206231345.49916.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
FW: Bits from the Release Team: Final countdown!
- Forwarded message from Neil McGovern - Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:16:07 +0100 From: Neil McGovern To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org Subject: Bits from the Release Team: Final countdown! Reply-To: debian-rele...@lists.debian.org Mail-Followup-To: debian-devel-annou...@lists.debian.org User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) Hi, We know no-one likes reading long mails on d-d-a, so we'll keep this short: we'll be stopping automatic migrations of packages from unstable to testing - aka freezing - on June 30th. Any packages in unstable before the 19:52 dinstall begins on that day will be given automatic freeze exceptions (for the specific version in unstable). As with the Squeeze freeze the process will be gradual, with a more liberal acceptance policy in the earlier stages. Precise details as to what that means will be available soon. Regards, Neil McGovern for the ☃-ing Release Team - End forwarded message - signature.asc Description: Digital signature
A qualified "Yes" - was [Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?]
Richard Owlett wrote: I did not use the term "alternate" as that already has a specific meaning in this context. I also used "contrarian" instead of "experimental" to emphasize I'm looking for something aimed at a different target audience. My experiments have demonstrated that the Debian installer team has producer a very robust product which meets the needs/desires of a very large percentage of its intended audience. Having recently read the announcement of apt-offline version 1.2, I think something I'd like would be possible. What I would like to have: CLI, dial up on a full analog modem (USB connection), WiFi connectivity, apt-offline. Options I would likely download almost immediately: X11, a very simple GUI (NOT a 'desktop _environment_), Tcl/Tk & gnuplot (I've existing projects). TIA It appears that I can reach my goal using netinst.iso. I doubt that few, if any, would recommend my goals or route. From my reading, I suspect that I'm headed down a path similar to an old/abandoned project for a highly customizable small footprint Linux install. [Can't recall the project's name.] I any case I'll learn the guts of Linux. I'm retired so I've time and no _outside_ constraints. Thanks to all. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe5fd4f.5030...@cloud85.net
Wheezy: Virtualization package recommendations
Hi, I'm looking into running Windows XP as guest on a Debian Wheezy box. The hardware is fairly recent (should support virtualization) and Windows XP will be used only occasionally, not a production environment, so the goal is to have an easy virtualization setup that minimally impacts the host OS (Debian). Any ideas? Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340471951.6841.yahoomailclas...@web121905.mail.ne1.yahoo.com
Re: /etc/bash.bashrc instead ~/.bashrc
Hello José, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > I don't remember to write or generate "by hand" this ~/.profile. Is it > created automatically? It should be created automatically from the files in /etc/skel/ if you are using useradd or adduser (the former with the --create-home option). Best regards, Claudius -- Monday is an awful way to spend one seventh of your life. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?
Tom H wrote: On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Paul Condon wrote: I think I have also read somewhere that netinst is a minimal system that is capable of hardly anything, except downloading and installing more packages from a mirror on the web. For this to be true in any meaningful sense, I had always assumed that it is capable of booting from hard disk. And Tom is finding that his install is not capable of doing that. The sequence of events for a netinst type install is that at some point *before* the CD is popped out, the grub boot program is written to the MBR space on the hard disk. Then after rebooting you are offered the tasksel dialog to specify what you want installed into the final system. OTOH, if you use businesscard, you do your tasksel before popping out the CD, because, I suppose, the businesscard install is not capable of booting from what it has written onto the HD, just as a 'live' disk does not automatically write itself onto the HD. But Tom never said anything about the properties of businesscard, or about using businesscard in his experiments. If I have recalled incorrectly, and the netinstall CD does ask for tasksel selection before popping out the CD, then there is very little observable difference between the two. (Also, not something that Tom expressed an interest in. ) And, perhaps both install systems that are incapable of booting from HD. That is very minimal, indeed. I'm not the one experimenting, it's the OP. Yes ;) Some of my questions MIGHT appear to make more sense if I were a modern Rip Van Winkle who went to sleep when Zilog introduced the high speed Z80A - for the younger set, a souped up 8080 operating at 2 MHz. Being in a Microsoft dominated work environment, I was a _user_ of various Windows flavors from 3.1 to XP. I've retired and am rejoining the real world and attempting to bring my competency up to what it was when I used CPM-80. You can install either a base system or base+standard system from a netinst.iso without an internet connection and they'll both boot up from the HD onto which you're installing. You do get the tasksel menu when you use netinst.iso at the same stage as with other installer sizes before grub's installed not after a reboot. If you have internet access, you have the same tasks available as other installer sizes. AFAIR this is all with the expert install; with the regular install, you have to have an internet connection (the last time that I tried this was when Squeeze was "testing", so I might be misremembering or that requirement might have been dropped). I brought up the businesscard.iso in an earlier email in another thread (AFAIR, with the same OP) to show the difference between it and the netinst.iso. Probably correct. Somebody did bring it up in one of the threads I started. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe5f735.6060...@cloud85.net
Re: /etc/bash.bashrc instead ~/.bashrc
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 05:24:59PM +0200, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > You are right: I have the ~/.profile file missing. I don't know how can > I miss this file, but it didn't exist at all. I copied this from another > computer and it works. tal% less .profile # ~/.profile: executed by the command interpreter for login shells. # This file is not read by bash(1), if ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bash_login # exists. # see /usr/share/doc/bash/examples/startup-files for examples. # the files are located in the bash-doc package. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623164932.GB14371@tal
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:20:46 +0900 Osamu Aoki wrote: Hello Osamu, >Then Gmail do not put looped mail into your inbox. AIUI, OP is bemoaning lack of _responses_ to queries, not the failure by gmail to return own messages. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Tell the dinosaurs they just won't survive The History Of The World (Part 1) - The Damned signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sun, 24 Jun 2012 00:20:46 +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote: > On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:32:27PM +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: >> Hello to admins and mailing list managers... >> >> I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the >> list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is >> preventing mails from getting in? #help > > This is a famous Gmail feature. (...) I think you mean this: *** Not receiving email from groups http://support.google.com/mail/bin/answer.py?hl=en&topic=1668979&hlrm=es&ctx=topic&answer=6588 *** What Gmail's webmail filters is _your own_ replies but not the other user replies to your posts; that would be too much insane... even for Google ;-P Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js4ona$io1$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
Hi, On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 03:32:27PM +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: > Hello to admins and mailing list managers... > > I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the > list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is > preventing mails from getting in? #help This is a famous Gmail feature. You are sending mail from Gmail (Web interface I suppose.) Then Gmail do not put looped mail into your inbox. There are some archive mail here explaining where on Google help page this is documented. Osamu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623152046.GA24894@goofy.localdomain
Re: fonts used by evince
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 08:54:47 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) >>> Well, as I already explained, the same TrueType font works well in >>> Wheezy so to my eyes is not the font that is a menace but a bug >>> located elsewhere in both Squeeze and Lenny :-) Mmm... after running more tests in Wheezy I realized that *any* of the symbol.ttf fonts I've tested (Paul's and mine) are failing to render the PDF. What happened is that I forgot to remove the "~/.fonts.conf" when I was doing the first tests and instead rendering Symbol it was being replaced with a different font, that's why I thought in Wheezy was working fine. After removing "~/.fonts.conf" and having the MS (or URW) symbol.ttf under "/usr/local/share/fonts" the sample PDF is still showing the wrong characters. >> Where can we download this file to test? > > I'm using the Symbol TrueType font that came by default along with > Windows XP¹, I can send you the file if you want to play with it. And here it comes another recent discovery I've made that points to a glyphs problem... if I open the sample PDF file (Fig5.pdf) with a text editor (mcedit Fig5.pdf), scroll down to line #134 and add the following (#135): #134 /BaseFont /Symbol #135 /Encoding /MacRomanEncoding << this line Save the document and open again with a PDF reader, et voilà, the characters are properly displayed. So what can be happening after all is that the "symbol.ttf" fonts we are using lack for the required glyphs to render a specific set of the encoded characters but not all. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js4o11$io1$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: /etc/bash.bashrc instead ~/.bashrc
Hello Claudius El 23/06/12 11:42, Claudius Hubig escribió: > > I guess that the SSH connect is a login shell, while the terminal is > not a login shell (especially if you run it manually). > > Hence, if you connect with SSH, Bash will run /etc/profile and > ~/.profile. My ~/.profile has a section like the following: > > # if running bash > if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then > # include .bashrc if it exists > if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then > . "$HOME/.bashrc" > fi > fi > > which is also in the .profile in /etc/skel/, I therefore assume that > this is currently shipped with Debian. > > I suggest you check whether these files (/etc/profile, ~/.profile, > ~/.bash_profile) exist and whether they load ~/.bashrc. > > Best regards, > > Claudius You are right: I have the ~/.profile file missing. I don't know how can I miss this file, but it didn't exist at all. I copied this from another computer and it works. I don't remember to write or generate "by hand" this ~/.profile. Is it created automatically? Thanks for your answer, it was driving me crazy :D Best regards signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 01:11:39PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:29 + (UTC) > Camaleón wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > > >There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to > > Isn't there? There used to be. Admittedly, it's only possible to > *either* follow up *or* reply, not both at the same time. So anything > akin to CC is out of the question. At least a reply would make more sense in this case. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623151317.GN12707@tal
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, Jun 23, 2012 at 12:45:19PM +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote: > > [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip] > > P.S. I can't CC, sorry! > > So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). However, I send carbon +1 "Does a falling tree make a sound when there is no one around to hear it." Now I know what that saying/proverb means. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623150557.GM12707@tal
Re: Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?
Paul Condon wrote: > If I have recalled incorrectly, and the netinstall CD does ask for > tasksel selection before popping out the CD, then there is very > little observable difference between the two. There is no difference between the two other than the amount of data they need to download from the network. Debian has *one* installer, not one per installation medium. > And, perhaps both install systems that are incapable of booting from HD. That would be a pretty absurd thing to install to a HD. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 10:48 PM, Paul Condon wrote: > > I think I have also read somewhere that netinst is a minimal system that is > capable of hardly anything, except downloading and installing more packages > from a mirror on the web. For this to > be true in any meaningful sense, I had always assumed that it is capable of > booting from hard disk. > And Tom is finding that his install is not capable of doing that. The > sequence of events for a netinst type install is that at some point *before* > the CD is popped out, the grub boot program is written to the MBR space on > the hard disk. Then after rebooting you are offered the tasksel dialog to > specify what you want installed into the final system. > > OTOH, if you use businesscard, you do your tasksel before popping out the > CD, because, I suppose, > the businesscard install is not capable of booting from what it has written > onto the HD, just as a 'live' disk does not automatically write itself onto > the HD. But Tom never said anything about the properties of businesscard, or > about using businesscard in his experiments. > > If I have recalled incorrectly, and the netinstall CD does ask for tasksel > selection before popping out the CD, then there is very little observable > difference between the two. (Also, not something > that Tom expressed an interest in. ) And, perhaps both install systems that > are incapable of booting from HD. That is very minimal, indeed. I'm not the one experimenting, it's the OP. You can install either a base system or base+standard system from a netinst.iso without an internet connection and they'll both boot up from the HD onto which you're installing. You do get the tasksel menu when you use netinst.iso at the same stage as with other installer sizes before grub's installed not after a reboot. If you have internet access, you have the same tasks available as other installer sizes. AFAIR this is all with the expert install; with the regular install, you have to have an internet connection (the last time that I tried this was when Squeeze was "testing", so I might be misremembering or that requirement might have been dropped). I brought up the businesscard.iso in an earlier email in another thread (AFAIR, with the same OP) to show the difference between it and the netinst.iso. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxqkz2uxex3ur7uzahznve8m2gmcm+nku8ekouoypv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: [OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 14:04:17 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:38:27 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > >>In Pan? You can: > > My memory is faulty; I was thinking of old Pan (which I still prefer). > New Pan does lots of things differently. I'm using Pan 0.132 (is what Lenny had). Anyway, after reading this post I feel as if I were living in the dinosaurce era and thus feeling like a diplodocus... http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/pan-devel/2007-08/msg5.html I wish Wheezy comes out tomorrow >;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js4ivo$io1$9...@dough.gmane.org
[OT] Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:38:27 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, >In Pan? You can: My memory is faulty; I was thinking of old Pan (which I still prefer). New Pan does lots of things differently. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" It's got nothing to do with the need to impress Titanic (My Over) Reaction - 999 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: accented characters in text console
Siard wrote: Chris Davies: Siard: hvw59601: I want to enter accented characters in a text console (not in X!) and everyone seems to have missed that. Nope. I have a working Compose key in a VT. See my other post in this thread. Yes, I have it working now. In Wheezy (i.e. not in Squeeze yet) the default keyboard layout as defined in /etc/default/keyboard is shared between the console and X. An option like "XKBOPTIONS=" in /etc/default/keyboard is nonetheless somewhat confusing then; the X in this name would usually indicate that it only applies to X. I found a new possible cause for OP's problem. S/he has en_US.ISO-8859-15 as the only locale. Now if I use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to set the locale to en_US.ISO-8859-15, then in /etc/default/locale the LANG option is commented out. /etc/default/locale: #LANG= With other locales, LANG is set to the preferred language, but en_US is apparently considered as a default here, without the need to specify it. But if I set LANG to the correct value, then _that_ makes it work. LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15 For example, in the console, Ctrl+Period then ' then e produces é. Nope. /etc/default/locale has LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15 and yet Ctrl+period and ' and e does not produce the right result. Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js4hqh$hlc$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: not autocompleting
On 2012-06-16, mk bane wrote: > > A while ago I upgraded to Squeeze. > I've noticed filename completion does not appear to work for some commands, > such as oocalc. > Anybody point me the direction of a solution? > Thanks, Seems as though there's an old bug report concerning this here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=503691 Look at Drew Parson's post, for instance, where he refers to oocalc not prompting for autocompletion for files with certain suffixes. I personally verified his empirical data (-;)) by creating an empty directory on my machine and "touching" two files, 'datafile.dat' and 'datafile.txt". oocalc will not autocomplete for the former but will autocomplete for the latter. Is your problem related to file suffixes or to something else entirely? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/slrnjubhcq.24l.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:11:39 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:29 + (UTC) Camaleón > wrote: > > Hello Camaleón, > >>There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to > > Isn't there? Mmm... no. > There used to be. In Pan? You can: a/ Define the default app to handle e-mail, web browser and text editor. b/ Reply only to the user (hitting "r" in Pan's parlance) but the message goes nowhere because no smtp server is in place so it's a dead end. In fact, what that option does in opening a new mesage in Thunderbird (my system's default MUA) with only the "To" and "Subject" fields filled (i.e., empty body, no quoted text). Of course, I can manually create a new message from any of my MUAs but that's not going to happen because there is the archive ;-) > Admittedly, it's only possible to *either* follow up *or* reply, not > both at the same time. So anything akin to CC is out of the question. AFAICT, I only can post/follow-up normally to the mailing list. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js4dc3$io1$8...@dough.gmane.org
OT: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
I only add OT to the subject ;p, Brad, Camaleón and to myself ;). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340454599.2980.88.camel@precise
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 11:51:29 + (UTC) Camaleón wrote: Hello Camaleón, >There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to Isn't there? There used to be. Admittedly, it's only possible to *either* follow up *or* reply, not both at the same time. So anything akin to CC is out of the question. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" If you ain't sticking your knives in me, you will be eventually Monsoon - Robbie Williams signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:45:19 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote: >> [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip] P.S. I can't CC, sorry! > > So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). There's the mailing list archive. > However, I send carbon copies with all information that is needed, > excepted of instructing not to posting in HTML. So to the OP, if > possible, don't format your emails, but use plain text only. That will be good for the user but he should know about the existance of the archives which are a common feature for every mailing list -not just this one for Debian- so he can go there to view the posts if he is interested. > What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy? I'm not using a MUA but a newsreader. > "Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)" Really? Perhaps borked software, There is no option to setup a smtp server in Pan, I only can post to the news server, which by the way, is exactly what I want. > resp. every mail to the OP, without a carbon copy is spam to the list > only. (sigh) There's the mailing list archive. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js4ak1$io1$7...@dough.gmane.org
OT: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 12:20 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:45:19 +0200 > Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > Hello Ralf, > > >What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy? > >"Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)" Really? > > Pan is a newsreader, and doesn't do a lot of MUA stuff. > > I know; A newsreader isn't a mailer, but you get the idea. This ML is > available as a newsgroup, so Cam's use of Pan is no great surprise to me. > Apologize to "Cam" ;). I wilfully was a little bit rough. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340451793.2980.57.camel@precise
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:45:19 +0200 Ralf Mardorf wrote: Hello Ralf, >What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy? >"Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)" Really? Pan is a newsreader, and doesn't do a lot of MUA stuff. I know; A newsreader isn't a mailer, but you get the idea. This ML is available as a newsgroup, so Cam's use of Pan is no great surprise to me. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" The man in a tracksuit attacks me I Predict A Riot - Kaiser Chiefs signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: accented characters in text console
Chris Davies: > Siard: > > hvw59601: > > > I want to enter accented characters in a text console (not in X!) > > > > and everyone seems to have missed that. > > Nope. I have a working Compose key in a VT. See my other post in this > thread. Yes, I have it working now. In Wheezy (i.e. not in Squeeze yet) the default keyboard layout as defined in /etc/default/keyboard is shared between the console and X. An option like "XKBOPTIONS=" in /etc/default/keyboard is nonetheless somewhat confusing then; the X in this name would usually indicate that it only applies to X. I found a new possible cause for OP's problem. S/he has en_US.ISO-8859-15 as the only locale. Now if I use 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' to set the locale to en_US.ISO-8859-15, then in /etc/default/locale the LANG option is commented out. /etc/default/locale: #LANG= With other locales, LANG is set to the preferred language, but en_US is apparently considered as a default here, without the need to specify it. But if I set LANG to the correct value, then _that_ makes it work. LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-15 For example, in the console, Ctrl+Period then ' then e produces é. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623132009.870013c0.shiems...@kpnplanet.nl
Re: Update overwrote my settings
El 2012-06-23 a las 12:09 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich escribió: (resending to the list) > On 23.06.2012 11:41, Camaleón wrote: >> On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:05:09 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: >> Hi Camaleon, >>> Hi list, >>> >>> I am running debian testing, Sadly to tell, that my latest KDE update >>> did overwrite my personal setting in kde. This included the following >>> things: >> In addition to ask here, consider posting in debian-kde where Debian kde >> users land: >> >> http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/ > Good hint, thanks! The more KDE users can read from your comments the more chances for you to get useful feedback :-) >> I've seen these kind of things from time time also in GNOME when using >> testing. For instance, N-M loses the password for the AP and I have to >> retype it again or the desktop background that returns to the default >> while I have a solid color set... but I don't tend to report these >> things, they are annoying but nothing serious (like would be >> dissapearing e-mails or your own files, for instance). (...) Well, >> remember you're on "testing" :-P Greetings, > > Hmm, I am running debian now for many years, and it was the very first > time, I got this issue (except when major changes were done, like > changing fron kde2 to kde3 to kde4 for example). Maybe KDE is more stable than GNOME in this regard :-? > And of course, I realized it is testing! Especially as it IS testing, I > sent my mail: to notice and prevent this thing before it is getting > unnoticed into stable! :) And no one can bite you for that... > It will also be a little hint, to keep people alerted, before they > update (i.e. in environments, where many people are working like > enterprise environments or similar). ... but then it would be better that you list the updated packages so others can compare or choose whether if update them now or wait for a bit ;-) Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623103711.gb4...@stt008.linux.site
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 10:30 +, Camaleón wrote: > [snip] I already gave you some hints: [snip] > P.S. I can't CC, sorry! So (at least) this mail is quiet useless ;). However, I send carbon copies with all information that is needed, excepted of instructing not to posting in HTML. So to the OP, if possible, don't format your emails, but use plain text only. What kind of ridiculous mailer can't carbon copy? "Mailer: Pan/0.132 (Waxed in Black)" Really? Perhaps borked software, resp. every mail to the OP, without a carbon copy is spam to the list only. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340448319.2980.19.camel@precise
Re: not autocompleting
El 2012-06-22 a las 20:23 +0100, mk bane escribió: (resending to the list) > On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 8:20 PM, mk bane wrote: (...) > >> What's the output of "complete -p | grep oocalc"? I get: > >> > >> sm01@stt008:~/Desktop$ complete -p | grep oocalc > >> complete -o filenames -d -X '.[^./]*' -F _ooexp_ oocalc > >> > >> > >> > > Hi Camaleon > > > > Mine looks same? > > > > mkb@amd64:~$ complete -p |grep oocalc > > complete -o filenames -d -X '.[^./]*' -F _ooexp_ oocalc It looks okay. How about your alias? Do you have something fancy added that can be interferring with autocomplete? Are you experiencing the problem when you login with a different user? Does the same happen for all of the OOo applications (oowriter, oodraw, ooimpres...)? I'm going out of ideas :-/ > For ref, my full complete -p output is attached I leave the bunch of text "as is" so other can review. > complete -o filenames -d -X '.[^./]*' -F _ooexp_ oodraw > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec elinks > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec freeamp > complete -F _kill kill > complete -F _renice renice > complete -F _update_alternatives alternatives > complete -o filenames -F _reportbug reportbug > complete -F _pgrep pidof > complete -o filenames -d -X '.[^./]*' -F _ooexp_ ooweb > complete -o filenames -F _java java > complete -o filenames -F _stream stream > complete -o filenames -F _longopt split > complete -o filenames -F _longopt sed > complete -o filenames -F _longopt grep > complete -o filenames -F _longopt ld > complete -j -P '"%' -S '"' jobs > complete -d pushd > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec playmidi > complete -F _service service > complete -o filenames -F _querybts querybts > complete -F _killall killall > complete -o filenames -F _composite composite > complete -o filenames -F _gcc g77 > complete -o filenames -F _gcc g++ > complete -o filenames -F _longopt mv > complete -F _known_hosts rlogin > complete -b help > complete -A stopped -P '"%' -S '"' bg > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec cdiff > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec bibtex > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec rgview > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec realplay > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec xine > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec xpdf > complete -F _sysctl sysctl > complete -F _groupadd groupadd > complete -o filenames -F _newusers newusers > complete -F _useradd useradd > complete -o filenames -d -X '.[^./]*' -F _ooexp_ unopkg > complete -o default -o filenames -F _mutt mutt > complete -o filenames -F _insmod modprobe > complete -o filenames -F _make gnumake > complete -o default -o nospace -F _export export > complete -o filenames -F _longopt pr > complete -o filenames -F _longopt strip > complete -F _known_hosts ftp > complete -o filenames -d -X '.[^./]*' -F _ooexp_ oowriter > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec chromium-browser > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec gqmpeg > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec tex > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec lzegrep > complete -F _update_rc_d update-rc.d > complete -o bashdefault -F _perldoc perldoc > complete -o filenames -F _longopt m4 > complete -o filenames -F _command do > complete -o filenames -F _command time > complete -o filenames -F _command exec > complete -o nospace -F _user_at_host finger > complete -o nospace -F _user_at_host ytalk > complete -c which > complete -u slay > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec aviplay > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec latex > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec evince > complete -F _update_alternatives update-alternatives > complete -F _vipw vipw > complete -o nospace -F _alias alias > complete -o filenames -F _apt_cache apt-cache > complete -o default -F _longopt uname > complete -o filenames -F _longopt ldd > complete -o filenames -F _longopt tac > complete -F _known_hosts tracepath6 > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec netscape > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec acroread > complete -F _xrandr xrandr > complete -o filenames -F _longopt bc > complete -o filenames -F _root_command gksudo > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec rvim > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec makeinfo > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec bunzip2 > complete -F _ssh ssh > complete -F _lastlog lastlog > complete -F _pm_action pm-suspend > complete -F _desktop_file_validate desktop-file-validate > complete -o filenames -F _longopt tail > complete -o filenames -F _longopt nl > complete -F _known_hosts host > complete -F _known_hosts tracepath > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec ogg123 > complete -F _chpasswd chpasswd > complete -o filenames -F _chown chown > complete -o filenames -F _longopt awk > complete -o filenames -F _longopt nm > complete -o filenames -F _command xargs > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec kwrite > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec gview > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec ps2pdfwr > complete -o filenames -F _filedir_xspec qiv > complete -o
Re: fonts used by evince
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, > > Where can we download this file to test? > > my version can be obtained via svn: URL: https://root.cern.ch/svn/root/tags/v5-30-04/fonts Cheers, Paul -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJP5ZsoAAoJEPGrO6H3OXolCMcP/iQ4xqF1grXjQ0hGkjcq7K+z p95E8CBZjUYKUlS8zNlmDwhx3PGg6zD0Zbt3BWWtEiDSgTsuDguI7H0FC1Y8JxjK Iydl46hCv3l6n4+uL/aqSGhNMEo/cm9yyJt5stY5a7CtO/NP+tUWTjrRS/LFkofA m6xSk+nlVmsJ7l9BxPBvPXkRnzudRopu64A5Fg3ztr30Jp6o21zhomuZmiTZpcr9 2Le+CIrXKMTDifQzb8nqgjbb3HtXDEaQ/idlxT1ePGXR2f1CUJSThIn0bIuovyay O8G0RLJbINtAz+Y9ylEYqResapWYX1uBRI8N6REqs+sT64mHyoughonWv5xopt2B thEgYMOJNgTVi8rTynSNY9JyIx8k9RjVMFVln8aNALdQNxFb1atoVZkQpxKggH9f C1m+xTEOkdyLidMQVwIjjEyYGn17MaqDB1rCG4Pda8vH+5fLiC+TFSBjnLn+HK5l XMr3R8ziCAF50itjrZveBD6jDV73XBNQ42bDDBwVDDdEOBRHftO8tQ4rpjPoVnEA UIAcjNdcEAPUXBuMewmeHNJKMq7Zveu9RzUEslv6LWKu6B7c21/SNw4BS3GNVYpZ 0e2Cz74Jui8DdbU3v/c/yplyyK//UP6nNVUArgmGkkl+z4B3A8kGSL/gVO5E97t8 mj/QFK8UmAoQio/tDMRc =0tXA -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe59b28.6050...@mathphys.fsk.uni-heidelberg.de
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 15:32:27 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: > Hello to admins and mailing list managers... They don't use to be around here. http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/index.en.html#maintenance > I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the > list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is > preventing mails from getting in? #help I already gave you some hints: http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/msg01775.html You will have to go to the mailing list archives if you want to read what other users reply, at least until you solve the problem. P.S. I can't CC, sorry! Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js45sh$io1$6...@dough.gmane.org
Re: bash related question, adding variable into path
On Fri, Jun 22, 2012 at 05:34:40AM BST, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > below scripts stuck when i added id variable to a path. > > this script supposed to copy message files (from 18-22 june) from a > zimbra store/mailbox of a user and copied it into /tmp > > #!/bin/bash > echo "Username? then [ENTER]:" > read username > id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e 'use zimbra;select id,comment from > mailbox;' | grep $username | cut -f 1` > mkdir /tmp/$username 2>/dev/null > for i in `egrep '(1[8-9]|2[0-2]) Jun 2012' > /opt/zimbra/store/0/$id/msg/0/* | cut -d : -f 1 | uniq` > do > cp $i /tmp/$username > done > > there must be something that i had missed... 1. Hard to tell, as you simply pasted the script instead of attaching an actual fine - the line breaks are wrong I take it. Please simply attach one next time. 2. Your problem is a bash problem per se as there's nothing bash specific in your script, you might as well change the hashbang to #!/bin/sh - it'll save you some resources ;^) 3. Backticks '`' can be tricky to work with, try using $() instead - they nest better, are cleaner, more readable, and they're POSIX. 4. If you need literal results, quote the command substitution - "$id". 5. Last but not least - debug your script! Regards, -- rjc -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623102403.ga11...@linuxstuff.pl
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 12:06 +0200, I wrote: > Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbwzOdkhhfONhVXpTomjzbz73TkM6dOWC82zeHq=8zs...@mail.gmail.com Ignore the link to the archive, regarding to the topic ;), I just copied and pasted the list's signature from another email. Write to the listmaster and use the archive by date or thread. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340446356.2980.10.camel@precise
Re: Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 15:32 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: > Hello to admins and mailing list managers... > > I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the > list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is > preventing mails from getting in? #help Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbwzOdkhhfONhVXpTomjzbz73TkM6dOWC82zeHq=8zs...@mail.gmail.com How did you subscribe? - Ralf PS: There's already a thread about your issue: On Sat, 2012-06-23 at 11:50 +0200, Ralf Mardorf wrote: On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 15:33 +, Camaleón wrote: > > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: > > > > > For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in my > > > mailbox to my query posted on mailing list. > > > > (...) > > > > [snip] > > For the rest of the article I share most of your feelings but won't > > repeat because I alredy commented on this thread what are my thoughts on > > this. > > FWIW sometime ago I posted the links to the archive at LAU, the OP of > the UEFI thread might take a look there: > Forwarded Message > From: Ralf Mardorf > To: linux-audio-user > Subject: [LAU] OT: Wait, did [UEFI] just really happen? > Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:25:16 +0200 > > Take a look at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/threads.html#00267 > for the thread "the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft". > > I flagged the mail with the link to the article and will read it ASAP, > but I guess everything that could be written, already is written. > > Regards, > Ralf > > PS: Camaleón did the right thing when only replying to the list. > However, in this case a carbon copy might be wanted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340445979.2980.8.camel@precise
Re: bash related question, adding variable into path
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 12:14:39 +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > 2012/6/22 Camaleón : >> On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:34:40 +0800, Umarzuki Mochlis wrote: > >>> #!/bin/bash >>> echo "Username? then [ENTER]:" >>> read username >>> id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e 'use zimbra;select id,comment from mailbox;' | >>> grep $username | cut -f 1` >>> mkdir /tmp/$username 2>/dev/null Put an echo here. >>> for i in `egrep '(1[8-9]|2[0-2]) Jun 2012' >>> /opt/zimbra/store/0/$id/msg/0/* | cut -d : -f 1 | uniq` And another flag here. >>> do >>> cp $i /tmp/$username And just in case, also print the value of $username to track all the variables used in the script. >>> done >>> >>> there must be something that i had missed... >> >> Print/echo the $id variable to check for its current value as seen in >> runtime by your script :-? > > > i had checked with echo that $id indeed output a id and running Care to send the output of the script when you run it once you added the echo lines? :-) > if i put the id value exactly as output of "/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e > 'use zimbra;select id,comment from mailbox;' | grep $username | cut -f > 1", it worked So you mean the whole script works okay. > what else could should i look for? I don't know... need more data. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js44dm$io1$5...@dough.gmane.org
Not getting mailing list response in my inbox
Hello to admins and mailing list managers... I am not able to receive responses posted to my topics i mailed to the list..Can someone help to sort out this issue? Is it gmail that is preventing mails from getting in? #help -- Harshad Joshi
Re: Reading/posting to Debian mailing lists (was: Re: Fwd: the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft)
On Fri, 2012-06-22 at 15:33 +, Camaleón wrote: > On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 18:26:17 +0530, Harshad Joshi wrote: > > > For some reasons i am not able to get debian members response in my > > mailbox to my query posted on mailing list. > > (...) > > [snip] > For the rest of the article I share most of your feelings but won't > repeat because I alredy commented on this thread what are my thoughts on > this. FWIW sometime ago I posted the links to the archive at LAU, the OP of the UEFI thread might take a look there: Forwarded Message From: Ralf Mardorf To: linux-audio-user Subject: [LAU] OT: Wait, did [UEFI] just really happen? Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2012 12:25:16 +0200 Take a look at http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/06/threads.html#00267 for the thread "the ghost of UEFI and Micr0$0ft". I flagged the mail with the link to the article and will read it ASAP, but I guess everything that could be written, already is written. Regards, Ralf PS: Camaleón did the right thing when only replying to the list. However, in this case a carbon copy might be wanted. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1340445019.2980.6.camel@precise
Re: bash related question, adding variable into path
2012/6/23 Keith McKenzie : > I think maybe put ; after the first command before issuing the second > command mkdir > > id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e 'use zimbra;select id,comment from > mailbox;' | grep $username | cut -f 1` ; mkdir /tmp/$username > 2>/dev/null > > &/or, possibly you need to escape your statement > > id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e \'use zimbra;select id,comment from > mailbox;\' | grep $username | cut -f 1` ; mkdir /tmp/$username > 2>/dev/null thanks but on my code it is actually on a newline -- Regards, Umarzuki Mochlis http://debmal.my -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHW9mbwzOdkhhfONhVXpTomjzbz73TkM6dOWC82zeHq=8zs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: /etc/bash.bashrc instead ~/.bashrc
Hello José, José Luis Segura Lucas wrote: > In one (and only one) of then, when I open a terminal or connect by SSH, > my bash load the default system configuration from /etc/bash.bashrc, > instead of reading, as usual, ~/.bashrc. > > I can think that I don't really have a ~/.bashrc (or have a mispelling > on the file name), but if I run bash from the terminal, my configuration > file in ~/.bashrc is loaded. From man bash: When bash is invoked as an interactive login shell, or as a non-interactive shell with the --login option, it first reads and executes commands from the file /etc/profile, if that file exists. After reading that file, it looks for ~/.bash_profile, ~/.bash_login, and ~/.profile, in that order, and reads and executes commands from the first one that exists and is readable. The --noprofile option may be used when the shell is started to inhibit this behavior. When a login shell exits, bash reads and executes commands from the file ~/.bash_logout, if it exists. When an interactive shell that is not a login shell is started, bash reads and executes commands from /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc, if these files exist. This may be inhibited by using the --norc option. The --rcfile file option will force bash to read and execute commands from file instead of /etc/bash.bashrc and ~/.bashrc. I guess that the SSH connect is a login shell, while the terminal is not a login shell (especially if you run it manually). Hence, if you connect with SSH, Bash will run /etc/profile and ~/.profile. My ~/.profile has a section like the following: # if running bash if [ -n "$BASH_VERSION" ]; then # include .bashrc if it exists if [ -f "$HOME/.bashrc" ]; then . "$HOME/.bashrc" fi fi which is also in the .profile in /etc/skel/, I therefore assume that this is currently shipped with Debian. I suggest you check whether these files (/etc/profile, ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile) exist and whether they load ~/.bashrc. Best regards, Claudius -- Cat, n.: Lapwarmer with built-in buzzer. http://chubig.net telnet nightfall.org 4242 signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Update overwrote my settings
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 10:05:09 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > Hi list, > > I am running debian testing, Sadly to tell, that my latest KDE update > did overwrite my personal setting in kde. This included the following > things: In addition to ask here, consider posting in debian-kde where Debian kde users land: http://lists.debian.org/debian-kde/ > - wallpaper was set to standard > > - all widgets were gone and had to reactivate manually (although, they > were shown as installed) > > - icon size in taskbar is changed to big (48) and cannot decreased any > more > > - powerdevil: option profiles disappeared (I already sent a bugreport > for this) I've seen these kind of things from time time also in GNOME when using testing. For instance, N-M loses the password for the AP and I have to retype it again or the desktop background that returns to the default while I have a solid color set... but I don't tend to report these things, they are annoying but nothing serious (like would be dissapearing e-mails or your own files, for instance). > I suppose, this should not happen, as one of debians rules is, never to > change personal settings. I suppose, this is a bug! I would be happy to > file a bugreport, but I do not know, what is responsible for it. I > guess, it is the packagers team, but I cannot prove. (...) Well, remember you're on "testing" :-P Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js42vl$io1$4...@dough.gmane.org
Re: dependency tree on installed packages
On Mi, 20 iun 12, 20:55:09, Artifex Maximus wrote: > > I think the continuous upgrade process from the early stage of Wheezy > left some unneeded packages. This is normal as I started early just > want to clean out my system. Maybe I am wrong on base idea but would > like to check and look for some utility to make it easier. I there is > no such utility I will compare line-by-line as last resort. Not what your looking for, but my way of cleaning up is to use aptitude's interactive mode and mark all packages automatically installed. Then I press 'g' once (this is important), go through the list of packages to be removed and use '+' to mark them to be kept and manually installed. I'm doing at least two or three passes, first time marking just packages that are very important to me and then consecutive passes marking packages less important. It's easier if I just 'q' after each pass and press 'g' again, to get a shorter list. Package relations can be seen in aptitude with 'r' (reverse dependencies) and 'd' (dependencies). See also debtree. Hope this helps, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Marvell SATA/Raid problem
On Sat, 23 Jun 2012 03:04:16 -0400, Neal Murphy wrote: > Wheezy 64-bit. Marvell PCIE SATA/Raid card with one drive (in a CRU > DP10), non-RAID. Main board has two identical Hitachi 1TB drives on > on-board SATA ports used in md RAID. So you have a total of 3 hard disks, one connected to the PCI-e card and the other two attached to the stock mainboard sata ports, right? > Running Squeeze 32-bit, it was handling hot-plugged drives just fine. > Switched to Wheezy 64-bit and it no longer detects hot-plugged drives. > In fact, it won't boot with a drive connected to the Marvell card > (plugged into the DP10). The change of the architecture (32 → 64 bits) seems to indicate that you did a clean install, from scratch, right? Questions: - Did the installer even see any of the 3 drives? - Output of lspci (so we can see the Marvell chipsets involved) - Output of messages (when you cannot boot, kernel logs, dmesg...) - What's your hdd layout? Where is the system installed, what raid level are you using? I guess is a raid 1 but I prefer to ask. Give more details about your system, you provided sparse data and precision is a must for these kind of problems :-) > Are there any known problems with Marvell SATA and Wheezy 64-bit? (...) None that I'm aware of :-? Anyway, something that was working fine in Squeeze is expected to be working in upcoming kernel versions. Unless you missed something, consider in opening a bug report for a possible regression. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js427h$io1$3...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Re: Is the a 'contrarian' Debian install available?
On Vi, 22 iun 12, 20:48:31, Paul Condon wrote: > I think I have also read somewhere that netinst is a minimal system > that is capable of hardly anything, except downloading and > installing more packages from a mirror on the web. For this to > be true in any meaningful sense, I had always assumed that it is > capable of booting from hard disk. > And Tom is finding that his install is not capable of doing that. > The sequence of events for a netinst type install is that at some > point *before* the CD is popped out, the grub boot program is > written to the MBR space on the hard disk. Then after rebooting you > are offered the tasksel dialog to specify what you want installed > into the final system. Maybe you are remembering sarge with its two step install? Haven't seen this since. > If I have recalled incorrectly, and the netinstall CD does ask for > tasksel selection before popping out the CD, then there is very > little observable difference between the two. (Also, not something > that Tom expressed an interest in. ) And, perhaps both install > systems that are incapable of booting from HD. That is very minimal, > indeed. The difference, as stated already, is that netinst contains some packages, AFAIK the packages that will get installed even if you don't select anything at the 'tasksel' step (not even Standard). Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: What to do when testing come to stable on a Debian wheezy/sid?
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 13:55:55 -0400 Gary Dale wrote: > You miss the point of sid. It's not a distribution the way Wheezy is. > It's a place to put packages for testing before they enter into the > general testing pool. Testing against sid is almost useless when you > really want to know if the package is ready for Wheezy. You may be thinking of Experimental. Both sid and testing are full usable distributions, testing being a rolling distribution some of the time, sid all of the time. Have a look at some random packages in the Debian list, and you will see that many are at the same version in both sid and testing. Packages that don't break badly in a mere ten days or so in sid are promoted to testing, if they are not new packages which arrived after the freeze. If sid and testing were significantly different, sid would be of no use for pre-testing the packages before moving them to the testing distribution. The overall environment must be pretty much the same. Once testing is frozen, they do diverge somewhat more, but sid still cannot be structurally altered in a way that would make it impossible to support testing. *That* happens immediately after release, when the new packages in sid held up by the testing freeze are moved quickly into testing, and sid is partly rebuilt toward the aims of the next release, while remaining a usable distribution at all times. Users of both distributions then live in interesting times for a month or so. > > If you run into a problem with a package from sid, you can say it > doesn't work with Wheezy. However, if your system is entirely sid, > all you can say it that it's not compatible with other sid packages. > Since those packages haven't been vetted for the next release, the > problem could be anywhere. > > Basic rule of problem resolution is change one thing at a time. When > you're running sid, everything changes all the time. > > No, not really. Updates are running about 100MB a day on my system, but that's still a small fraction of my installed packages. Even then, some software changes often, like LibreOffice, and most of the structure hardly changes at all. Debian isn't like Windows, it's not tightly 'integrated', as the MS marketing people like to say. Most individual packages can be upgraded in any order, and when a new version has a problem, it can be downgraded to the previous version. Where there are groups of packages which *are* integrated among themselves, then most of them cannot be upgraded until all are ready. But even here, choosing the upgrade order can allow some packages to be upgraded, and indeed there is sometimes a correct order to make the upgrade of the whole group. Where there is difficulty tracking down problems, it's something that will happen in every Linux distribution. Sound and vision are the prime examples, with both being dependent on many different packages, from hardware drivers down to udev. Looking only at the packages which have just been updated is not necessarily the answer, as a new version of one package may expose a hidden bug in another. Recently, I could no longer start Synaptic from its menu entry. This had been immediately caused by a new Synaptic version, but only because it now did something differently. The true cause is somewhere else entirely, possibly in GTK, or possibly GTK is giving me an error message because of a bug in something else entirely. -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120623101014.2c88b...@jretrading.com
Re: fonts used by evince
On Fri, 22 Jun 2012 19:58:04 +0100, Brian wrote: > On Fri 22 Jun 2012 at 17:42:26 +, Camaleón wrote: (...) >> > I wonder whether it is. His has "Copyright URW Software, Copyright >> > 1997 by URW" in the file. >> >> What file? You mean the .ttf font? :-? > > Of course. > >> When I open "symbol.ttf" from MC I see "The Monotype Corporation >> plc/Time Solutions Inc. 1990-1992. All Rights ReservedSymbolRegular... >> blah, blah" > > You have a different file from Paul then. Yes, that's what I said. We've got a problem with the same font (symbol.ttf) but the file comes from a different "manufacturer", so to speak. >> > This font is menace on a Debian system. As both of you have found out >> > it needs to be put somewhere where fontconfig does not look. >> > Examining it with fontforge reveals the unicode values for the glyphs >> > are incorrect. Not that the GPL version of the same font in wine has >> > anything to boast about - it too suffers from an identical defect. >> >> Well, as I already explained, the same TrueType font works well in >> Wheezy so to my eyes is not the font that is a menace but a bug located >> elsewhere in both Squeeze and Lenny :-) > > Where can we download this file to test? I'm using the Symbol TrueType font that came by default along with Windows XP¹, I can send you the file if you want to play with it. ¹http://www.microsoft.com/typography/fonts/winxp.htm Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/js408n$io1$2...@dough.gmane.org
Kdevelop-php and debugging
Anyone out there using kdevelop with php and xdebug. I have installed the debian kdevelop and kdevelop-php packages (from sid) , but the only documentation I can find about how to set up the debugger doesn't seem to match the version of kdevelop. Kdevelop seems to have something called launch configurations, but I don't really understand the dialog box and what to add for debugging with xdebug. The only place on the net I found that describes this must be for an earlier version of kdevelop, because it doesn't seem to match. http://nikosams.blogspot.co.uk/2010/02/kdevelop-xdebug-php-debugger.html Lots of other posts refer to this. But for a starters - its suggesting I need various kdevelop plugings, but the links he gives don't work, and if you try and look in the same place for later releases of kdevelop, the specific plugins are not there. -- Alan Chandler http://www.chandlerfamily.org.uk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/4fe5823e.8090...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: bash related question, adding variable into path
I think maybe put ; after the first command before issuing the second command mkdir id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e 'use zimbra;select id,comment from mailbox;' | grep $username | cut -f 1` ; mkdir /tmp/$username 2>/dev/null &/or, possibly you need to escape your statement id=`/opt/zimbra/bin/mysql -e \'use zimbra;select id,comment from mailbox;\' | grep $username | cut -f 1` ; mkdir /tmp/$username 2>/dev/null -- Sent from FOSS (Free Open Source Software) Debian GNU/Linux -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cal36vgn3jaw9cumndq0yycqwvbdvlkuzyk1e65z6ndaltev...@mail.gmail.com
Update overwrote my settings
Hi list, I am running debian testing, Sadly to tell, that my latest KDE update did overwrite my personal setting in kde. This included the following things: - wallpaper was set to standard - all widgets were gone and had to reactivate manually (although, they were shown as installed) - icon size in taskbar is changed to big (48) and cannot decreased any more - powerdevil: option profiles disappeared (I already sent a bugreport for this) I suppose, this should not happen, as one of debians rules is, never to change personal settings. I suppose, this is a bug! I would be happy to file a bugreport, but I do not know, what is responsible for it. I guess, it is the packagers team, but I cannot prove. Does someone know more? Besides, this happens on all of my machines (amd64 and i386). Thank you for reading this. Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206231005.10970.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Marvell SATA/Raid problem
Wheezy 64-bit. Marvell PCIE SATA/Raid card with one drive (in a CRU DP10), non-RAID. Main board has two identical Hitachi 1TB drives on on-board SATA ports used in md RAID. Running Squeeze 32-bit, it was handling hot-plugged drives just fine. Switched to Wheezy 64-bit and it no longer detects hot-plugged drives. In fact, it won't boot with a drive connected to the Marvell card (plugged into the DP10). Are there any known problems with Marvell SATA and Wheezy 64-bit? I have the system here; I'll re-try Wheezy 64-bit this weekend, and try Wheezy 32-bit and Squeeze. (If Squeeze 32-bit doesn't work, it'll be a good clue, since it worked before.) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201206230304.16148.neal.p.mur...@alum.wpi.edu
