Re: Shockwave Flash
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 01.08.2012 19:18, Luiz L. Marins wrote: > > **apt-get remove gnash* > > apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree > > * * > > > Em 01-08-2012 12:27, Gary Dale escreveu: >> On 01/08/12 10:11 AM, Kent West wrote: >>> If you haven't already tried it, >>> >>> aptitude install gnash >>> >> Do you have recent experience with gnash? The last time I tried >> it, it didn't work very well. I'd prefer to use it over >> proprietary software. I have same experience as you (Luiz) :(. PS. Please don't toppost nor send HTML. Those spaces under your message are from HTML and the email is harder to read when others are writing to bottom and you are writing to the top. - -- Mika Suomalainen -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Public key: http://mkaysi.github.com/PGP/key.txt Comment: gpg --keyserver pool.sks-keyservers.net --recv-keys 0x82A46728 Comment: Fingerprint = 24BC 1573 B8EE D666 D10A AA65 4DB5 3CFE 82A4 6728 Comment: Why do I (clear)sign emails? http://git.io/6FLzWg Comment: Please remove PGP lines in replies. http://git.io/nvHrDg Comment: Charset of this message should be UTF-8. Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJQGiSiAAoJEE21PP6CpGco3TUP/107j7OvUDpplT8aoGLYwjBz TErrz0wtY/s97240NqolPbDMzXujgAOgD0TH1grC1yUPPL9KVrjKMs23aSyG3fHU ErrDhhN6h11MXVm85A6Vg0CpjMY2PelzpG/jEFPV3IIXpBAuwuDkjcoTdLRI0eoI xtyKraLTcgSG9b3jCBOGs/0890K02ttS7bK48ahWJNkHK6d3bxqMpgcRUwTFGpMK zIj6u6Mm8o7f30sGh4i5EbWO4ily/SLgh8kBpZkWTQdtJKKEf8K/mEt0vA80qOVc RD42Rd3olt2OQ5IzWS+eYyT/LS6Y41qVegEjgQr4TsvYsA4YEEWNXqxUfLw87xbT PmxG/NANbyFYrSUs35qQpUgXbpDC7vG8dr/glahzypwHhU0OvGoQ+Zdh7J6nBXct EtsBdxEtenyKV7e3BXEacYx9wjbR0YcYTznAp5HLLFPfsJ3PDbjKHKPzgVCaKSVw MBUP/SrBl/Y8Ine3JmzwnJ/azadGdqqonlsEtnp7icEA46ajx6QKmg5GGsSAeMHk XTa2ZdWXARqOrQST+lsNduy+NCMeGSruaGeevU7qRanP2nmoItUMH27DcJW0j9Nv bQdUuuUEkQQBZg6tXvhHulB17/XWk8hgbUycNM8Mxo79vXG2HcxTGWg1DibPV3LQ t90VBk5BpOnx0EYeMPr4 =HAFv -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/501a24a7.50...@hotmail.com
Re: Debian multimedia repository
Yaro Kasear wrote: > Andrei POPESCU wrote: > >Teemu Likonen wrote: > > >Titanus Eramius wrote: > > > > My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian > > > > Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using > > > > Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. > > > > > > Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very > > > hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been > > > easy in Debian. > > > > The versioning scheme of Deb Multimedia packages is meant to take > > priority over the Debian proper packages, but this can create problems > > under certain circumstances. > > I haven't been using Debian as long as many on this list. Are > failures with Debian-Multimedia that overtly common or are they > rather circumstantial? Originally I don't think there were any problems at all. The maintainer Chris Marillat did excellent work adding in bits that did not meet the DFSG or otherwise could not be included in Debian. But that by itself created political friction because these were bits that could not be part of Debian. However many people used them regardless of their status. I think the quality was high. Then as time has passed there has developed a social and political friction between d-m.o and d.o. This is unfortunate but appears to have happened just the same. I wish it were otherwise due to the good work and benefit that Marillat and d-m.o has given to users over many years. All of this is then turned into problems by users who do not understand the relationship between d-m.o and d.o. Many users by some stretch of imagination think that d-m.o is an official part of Debian. Users who did this were the real problem. They would then report bugs to the Debian BTS. This annoys the Debian maintainers. The annoyance "prickles" everyone all around and with heightened tension people's tempers have flared. It is the Internet after all. It isn't the spirit of cooperation that holds it together but the flamewar. For a recent discussion that will chain through much: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-May/026678.html And usefully for versions of everything: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/pipermail/pkg-multimedia-maintainers/2012-March/025536.html As to why there are problems I will speculate. Debian has had much churn of its multimedia packages recently. This makes it a moving target for d-m.o to work with and among. I don't know but I will guess that either to try to stay ahead of d.o packages or possibly to correct internal problems several of d-m.o packages have increased the epoch in the version number. Or have added a dmo which also increases the version number over the Debian version similar to what backports does. I haven't personally had any problems with this but I will guess that is where one of the biggest issues have arisen. Because d-m.o and d.o are two separate repositories with different maintainers there will always be some level of disconnect between packages. Therefore the Debian guys always want their version number to be the most recent, and so does Marillat. I never have problems upgrading but I always purge anything not strictly debian.org before an upgrade. Then to add fuel to the fire there is the continuing saga of the feud between the ffmpeg folks and the libav folks. Anyone dealing with multimedia packaging will be right in the middle of that fire fight. This is yet another unfortunate situation which catches users in the middle between two camps. I am not sure how this affects d-m.o v. d.o but I have heard rumors that it is involved in the problem. http://blog.pkh.me/p/13-the-ffmpeg-libav-situation.html Please can't we all just get along? Ya, right. Everything will be all right in the end. If it's not all right, then it's not yet the end. --Unknown Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
epub or mobi
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Re: Autofs and NFS, user mapping
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:44:14 -0400, Tom H wrote: > 1) Does the mount work if you export with nfsv3 specified? Hmm... that might be the way. How can I do that? I remember that I have to specify nfsv3 on the client/nfsmount side to get the straight-mount work for my uid and gid. Thanks -- Tong (remove underscore(s) to reply) http://xpt.sourceforge.net/techdocs/ http://xpt.sourceforge.net/tools/ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvd08g$tdi$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Debian multimedia repository
On 08/01/2012 11:06 PM, Gary Dale wrote: On 01/08/12 11:52 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On 08/01/2012 02:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been easy in Debian. The versioning scheme of Deb Multimedia packages is meant to take priority over the Debian proper packages, but this can create problems under certain circumstances. Kind regards, Andrei I haven't been using Debian as long as many on this list. Are failures with Debian-Multimedia that overtly common or are they rather circumstantial? It's not failures so much as conflicts. Certain Debian packages will not upgrade because the requisite libraries have been replaced by Debian-multimedia ones. It's a shame because there are some very nice tools in Debian-multimedia that I'd love to be able to use but not at the expense of core Debian packages. And how promptly do the Debian-Multimedia developers resolve these conflicts? Is this a big issue or just an occasional minor hiccup? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/501a0137.3000...@marupa.net
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Re: Debian multimedia repository
On 01/08/12 11:52 PM, Yaro Kasear wrote: On 08/01/2012 02:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been easy in Debian. The versioning scheme of Deb Multimedia packages is meant to take priority over the Debian proper packages, but this can create problems under certain circumstances. Kind regards, Andrei I haven't been using Debian as long as many on this list. Are failures with Debian-Multimedia that overtly common or are they rather circumstantial? It's not failures so much as conflicts. Certain Debian packages will not upgrade because the requisite libraries have been replaced by Debian-multimedia ones. It's a shame because there are some very nice tools in Debian-multimedia that I'd love to be able to use but not at the expense of core Debian packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019fcaf.1060...@rogers.com
Re: GNU find: "print0" and "-type" arguments
Alex Robbins wrote: > I have a directory that looks like this: > . > ├── dir > └── file > "dir" is a directory and "file" is a regular file. I execute: > find -type d Here you are using the GNU find extension which allows the path to be omitted. In GNU find the path is optional. In the standard find the path must be specified. I always specify the path. It is portable. > and get the output: > . > ./dir Okay. > This is the expected output. However, when I execute: > find -print0 -type d It would be a lot cleaner to use -print for this example instead of -print0. I will use -print for illustrative purposes. But there isn't any difference between -print and -print0 for the issue you are talking about. > I see (on a terminal screen that does not display null characters): > ../dir./file You have the order of arguments backwards. You wanted to say this: find -type d -print That would do the right thing. Doing it the other way around doesn't make any sense. > The same goes for using "-type f". It appears as though find > ignores the -type argument when the -print0 option is passed. Isn't > this a bug? It is a bug in your usage. Arguments are evaluated from left to right across the command line. -print -- returns true, prints the full name -type X -- returns true if the type of file matches X So with this (bad) ordering: find . -print -type d # bad ordering You get this behavior: -print, prints the filename. All files are printed. -type d, returns true if the file is a directory. But nothing is after this on the command line so this value is a noop. That above bad ordering is exactly the same as: find . -print The other way around works as you intend it. find . -type d -print # good ordering -type d, returns true if the file is a directory. By returning true processing continues across the line. By returning false processing stops and the action skips to the next file. -print, prints the file name, returns true Does that help to make sense? Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Debian multimedia repository
On 01/08/12 03:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been easy in Debian. The versioning scheme of Deb Multimedia packages is meant to take priority over the Debian proper packages, but this can create problems under certain circumstances. Kind regards, Andrei What I've found works best is to remove the conflicting packages then install the Debian ones. You'll see the ones when you try to upgrade certain normal Debian programs and they won't install because of the Debian-multimedia libraries. Aptitude works better than apt-get for this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019f9a8@rogers.com
Re: Debian multimedia repository
On 08/01/2012 02:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been easy in Debian. The versioning scheme of Deb Multimedia packages is meant to take priority over the Debian proper packages, but this can create problems under certain circumstances. Kind regards, Andrei I haven't been using Debian as long as many on this list. Are failures with Debian-Multimedia that overtly common or are they rather circumstantial? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019f994.7000...@marupa.net
Re: Debian multimedia repository
On 08/01/2012 02:18 PM, Titanus Eramius wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:20:59 +0300 Teemu Likonen wrote: Gary Dale [2012-08-01 13:55:09 -0400] wrote: Agreed. I would also advise people to stay away from debian-multimedia. It's packages are incompatible with standard Debian packages in many cases. [...] debian-multimedia can be too much of a headache. It has worked fine the seven or eight years I've been using it. So, it depends. Different Debian releases and different packages vary so much that I think we can't say that Debian multimedia is good or bad as a whole. Instead we could warn users that occasionally there are incompatible packages. My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Cheers Most desktop end-users may find it more worthwhile to use Debian-Multimedia for multimedia due to a couple factors, anyway. In my case, I'd prefer using Debian-Multimedia anyway for my music/videos/what have you. Debian doesn't even give me libdvdcss because of "questionable" legal status. Since almost all DVD movies on the market since the dawn of time are content scrambled, this is a case of Debian-Multimedia > Debian for media enthusiasts. Sorry if that seems rather negative to Debian. I'm not the "obsessed with free-as-in-freedom" type. I use what works, and I don't lose sleep over libraries like libdvdcss or the w64codecs. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to flame or diss Debian. But objectively there are definite downsides to an "all-free" lifestyle, and end users on OSen like Windows and OS X look at Debian and wonder why we would choose NOT to have DVD support (Remember, from their point of view, it's a bit of an all or nothing perspective. libdvdread and libdvdmenu are safe even by Debian standards, without CSS it's still "no DVD support."). It's important to a lot of people, but it is often the attempts to make open source moral/ethical issues that scares a lot of would-be adopters of Linux away. Just... food for thought. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019f86f.7050...@marupa.net
Re: GNU find: "print0" and "-type" arguments
Alex Robbins wrote: >I have a directory that looks like this: >. >├── dir >└── file >"dir" is a directory and "file" is a regular file. I execute: >find -type d >and get the output: >. >./dir >This is the expected output. However, when I execute: >find -print0 -type d >I see (on a terminal screen that does not display null characters): >../dir./file > >The same goes for using "-type f". It appears as though find ignores >the -type argument when the -print0 option is passed. Isn't this a >bug? > The -print or -print0 option needs to follow the selection criteria, such as -type. I'm pretty sure this is documented somewhere in the findutils manual. -- regards, kushal -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d416e2dc-c3f4-4361-a324-b5276366f...@email.android.com
Re: GNU find: "print0" and "-type" arguments
On 08/01/2012 08:41 PM, Kumar Appaiah wrote: On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 07:33:35PM -0500, Alex Robbins wrote: . ./dir This is the expected output. However, when I execute: find -print0 -type d I see (on a terminal screen that does not display null characters): ../dir./file The same goes for using "-type f". It appears as though find ignores the -type argument when the -print0 option is passed. Isn't this a bug? No. If you refer to the man page, it will reveal that -print0 actually outputs null characters instead of newlines. It is usually useful in conjunction with the -0 option for xargs to run commands on each file or directory found by find. Please read the man pages and they have nice examples at the bottom. Kumar Yes, I read the man page and I know what the -print0 option is supposed to do. Notice, however, that when I executed "find -print0 -type d" the output (which, we both understand, is delimited by null characters) includes the regular file, even though I specified "-type d". -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019e221.80...@gmail.com
Re: GNU find: "print0" and "-type" arguments
On Wed, Aug 01, 2012 at 07:33:35PM -0500, Alex Robbins wrote: > . > ./dir > This is the expected output. However, when I execute: > find -print0 -type d > I see (on a terminal screen that does not display null characters): > ../dir./file > > The same goes for using "-type f". It appears as though find > ignores the -type argument when the -print0 option is passed. Isn't > this a bug? No. If you refer to the man page, it will reveal that -print0 actually outputs null characters instead of newlines. It is usually useful in conjunction with the -0 option for xargs to run commands on each file or directory found by find. Please read the man pages and they have nice examples at the bottom. Kumar -- Absolutely nothing should be concluded from these figures except that no conclusion can be drawn from them. -- Joseph L. Brothers, Linux/PowerPC Project) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120802014159.gb12...@bluemoon.alumni.iitm.ac.in
Re: Squeeze 6.0.6
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 01 aug 12, 02:22:40, Mark Panen wrote: > > Google is not my friend today. > > > > Does anyone know more or less when Squeeze 6.0.6 will be released? > > Probably when there are enough (security) updates to warrant a new point > release. But why do you ask? Indeed. It is not like the stable point release dates matter much: if you have security + stable-proposed-updates + stable-updates enabled in apt, you basically ARE running the current snapshot of what will become the next stable point release. /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ stable/updates main contrib non-free deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ stable main contrib non-free deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ stable-updates main contrib non-free deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ stable-proposed-updates main contrib non-free Remove the contrib and non-free sections if you don't want/like/need them. Replace cdn.debian.net with the Debian mirror of your choice. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120802015825.gb27...@khazad-dum.debian.net
Re: [OT] Intellectual Property Law
doug writes: > Not only does copyright not die, as long as Disney is in business, > copyrights will extend to eternity! The laws may persist long after effective enforcement ceases, but cease it will. Eventually. In a few hundred years copyright will be seen as a bizarre and incomprehensible medieval practice. Only specialized historians and economists will really understand why it existed. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87boiu9j26.fsf...@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law
On 08/01/2012 08:50 PM, John Hasler wrote: Celejar writes: ...so just because the marginal cost of duplication is zero, why is is unreasonable for it to charge per copy? It is entirely reasonable for them to charge whatever they see fit for copies they make, but why should your "producers" be able to charge for copies other people make from copies those people own when the producers incur no costs and none of their property is involved? If the producers don't want me to make copies of the copies they sell me they can refrain from selling to me or condition the sale on contractual terms that limit what copying I can do. Why should I be forbidden by statute to create copies of objects that I own? Doesn't really matter in the long run, though. Now that the marginal cost of copying is zero copyright is going to die. It was only really practical when large-scale copying was an industrial enterprise such that enforcement was feasible. Not only does copyright not die, as long as Disney is in business, copyrights will extend to eternity! --doug -- Blessed are the peacekeepers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019d4b7.5040...@optonline.net
GNU find: "print0" and "-type" arguments
I have a directory that looks like this: . ├── dir └── file "dir" is a directory and "file" is a regular file. I execute: find -type d and get the output: . ./dir This is the expected output. However, when I execute: find -print0 -type d I see (on a terminal screen that does not display null characters): ../dir./file The same goes for using "-type f". It appears as though find ignores the -type argument when the -print0 option is passed. Isn't this a bug? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019cadf.8050...@gmail.com
Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law
Celejar writes: > ...so just because the marginal cost of duplication is zero, why is is > unreasonable for it to charge per copy? It is entirely reasonable for them to charge whatever they see fit for copies they make, but why should your "producers" be able to charge for copies other people make from copies those people own when the producers incur no costs and none of their property is involved? If the producers don't want me to make copies of the copies they sell me they can refrain from selling to me or condition the sale on contractual terms that limit what copying I can do. Why should I be forbidden by statute to create copies of objects that I own? Doesn't really matter in the long run, though. Now that the marginal cost of copying is zero copyright is going to die. It was only really practical when large-scale copying was an industrial enterprise such that enforcement was feasible. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87fw869kwy@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law [WAS: Re: what graphic card to buy?]
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:45:27 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Mi, 01 aug 12, 00:59:29, Yaro Kasear wrote: > > On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote: > > >On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300 > > >Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > > > >>On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote: > > >>>Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that > > >>>money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell > > >>>copies of one's software if it's freely copyable. The examples you give > > >>>are all of models other than the straightforward sale of licenses or > > >>>copies. > > >>IMO a business model that relies on the possibility to sell copies that > > >>basically cost nothing to produce is broken. > > >Is this a moral claim, a business one, a legal one, or just plain dogma? [The line to which you are responding is mine, not Yaro's.] > None of the above. I just think that such a business model will collapse > as soon as the consumers: > - realize the stupidity (they are starting to, probably that's why not You still have not given any reason for the alleged 'stupidity' - as I keep pointing out to you, the producers (may) have invested considerable resources to produce the original product, so just because the marginal cost of duplication is zero, why is is unreasonable for it to charge per copy? > many people care so much about illegal copies of music and movies > - have comparable alternatives Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120801202335.2bfb34a3.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Spam complaints
I hate spam. There is not absolute resolution to it. On Thu, May 17, 2012 at 4:51 AM, Clive Standbridge < list-u...@tgstandbridges.plus.com> wrote: > To anyone who is bothered by spam on the list and is unsure what to do, > please: > > DON'T reply to the spam. > > DON'T quote the spam. > > DO Read how to report the spam at > http://www.debian.org/MailingLists/#ads in particular, find the > offending message in the archive at > http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/recent and press the "Report as > spam" button. > > DO visit http://wiki.debian.org/Teams/ListMaster/ListArchiveSpam for > more information. > > > -- > Cheers, > Clive > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120517085144.GA1720@lister.localdomain > >
Re: Why compiling.
On Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:32:15 +0300 Andrei POPESCU wrote: > On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote: > > > > > > From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom > > > kernel. > > > > Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable > > modem) and grab an appropriate kernel. > > Devil's advocate mode: sorry, your ISP requires PPPoE, but you don't > have ppp and whatever else needed installed :p Fair enough ;) Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120801201140.6b6ac037.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Testing lightdm not remembering session
On 08/01/12 07:37, Camaleón wrote: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=648220 I'm seeing the same bug. Thanks! David -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019a54d.5060...@holgerdanske.com
Re: Shockwave Flash
That fixed it. I did apt-get purge flashplugin-nonfree then did aptitude install gnash. Whilst neither chromium or firefox say they have a flash plugin install it does work. Thanks for the comments. Most appreciated. Regards Fred > If you haven't already tried it, > >aptitude install gnash > > -- > Kent > > > On 7/31/12 7:12 PM, Fred Zinsli wrote: >> >> Hi Kent >> >> No, I can't see the site mentioned, I just get a black page (using >> firefox). >> >> Regards >> >> Fred >> >> > On 7/30/12 9:53 PM, Fred Zinsli wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi all >> >> >> >> Been playing with this for days, but just don't have a clue about >> what >> >> I'm supposed to be doing or looking for to help. >> >> >> >> Attempting to install shockwave flash so I can view swf files in a >> web >> >> browser. >> >> >> >> It isn't working for me, but what makes it worse is I can't seem to >> >> find any real information in any log files. So I am obviously looking >> >> in the wrong place or I haven't turned on logging for any browser. >> >> >> >> Browsers: Firefox, google-chrome, chromium, iceweasel >> >> >> >> Shockwave appears as a plugin in firefox but not in others. >> >> >> >> Any comments would be most helpful. >> >> >> > >> > Can you view a Shockwave site, such as www.homestarrunner.com? >> > >> > /Kent >> > >> > >> > -- >> > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> > listmas...@lists.debian.org >> > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50175ba1.80...@acu.edu >> > >> > >> > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/501938f8.1080...@acu.edu > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0e70570778fe6132ab92293e35e4fd5e.squir...@dtc.corpcomp.co.nz
Debian segítség / Debian support
Üdv! Van egy vmware virtuális gépen futtatott debianunk(debian 6).51 tárolófájlból 3 elveszett.Grubból látom a szükséges dolgokat amiket le kéne menteni.De grub-ból nem tudunk ugyebár másolni.Másik debian dist. live cd-jét is kipróbáltuk de nem működött csak grub -ig jutott el.A grubból is ls parancsal tudtuk megtekinteni a fájlrendszert , mivel live cd-ről , másik linuxról láttam a winchesztert , de nem tudtam mountolni.Szóval hogyan tudnánk másolni? Welcome! I have a vmware virtual computer , that run debian (debian 6).we have 51 virtual hard drive file , but we lost 3 file of this.I see that files from the exist hard drive that need to be backuped.But i see it from grub.In grug not be possibility to copy these files to somewhere to get them later.We try a other version of debian live cd edition , but as soon as the first debian this is only boot grub.From grub we can see these files and the file system only with ls command , we try other live cd , other linux and from these two is see winchester but i can't mount it.How we can copy these files? Sorry for my bad english but i'm hungarian -- Tuska Balázs, Orosháza
Re: Shockwave Flash
> > **apt-get remove gnash* Did that. Also removed flashplugin-nonfree as I had both installed. Removed symbolic links in /usr/lib/firefox/plugins. Checked both chromium and firefox to see if any flash plugin was installed, non was. > > apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree Did that after I removed everything else. Installed without error. Chromium and firefox state that the flashplugin-nonfree is installed, but I cannot view any flash sites at all. Both browsers report the following as installed plugins: Shockwave Flash 11.2 r202 Regards Fred > > * > * > > > Em 01-08-2012 12:27, Gary Dale escreveu: >> On 01/08/12 10:11 AM, Kent West wrote: >>> If you haven't already tried it, >>> >>> aptitude install gnash >>> >> Do you have recent experience with gnash? The last time I tried it, it >> didn't work very well. I'd prefer to use it over proprietary software. >> >> > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/86af5229b7888a8eec51f5fece195810.squir...@dtc.corpcomp.co.nz
Re: wheezy: Font rendering problems in GNOME 3.2.1?
On 2012-08-01 22:02 +0200, Felix Natter wrote: > for a few months now I have some artifacts that mysteriously appear and > disappear on my gnome desktop: See http://bugs.debian.org/666468 and its two dozen duplicates. > Maybe this is related: When I do a "apt-get upgrade", *many* packages > are held back: Try "apt-get dist-upgrade" instead. Cheers, Sven -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87sjc6s7b8@turtle.gmx.de
wheezy: Font rendering problems in GNOME 3.2.1?
hello, for a few months now I have some artifacts that mysteriously appear and disappear on my gnome desktop: http://www2.inf.fh-brs.de/~fnatte2s/font_rendering.png Maybe this is related: When I do a "apt-get upgrade", *many* packages are held back: The following packages have been kept back: alsa-utils apt apt-utils aptitude bluez brasero brasero-common bzr cheese-common colord cpp cpp-4.6 cups dbus debhelper dpkg-dev eclipse eclipse-jdt eclipse-pde eclipse-platform eclipse-platform-data eclipse-rcp evince evince-common evolution evolution-common evolution-data-server evolution-data-server-common evolution-plugins exiv2 ffmpeg fp-compiler fp-units-base fp-units-fcl fp-units-gtk2 fp-units-rtl fp-utils fpc fpc-source frei0r-plugins g++ g++-4.6 g++-4.6-multilib g++-multilib gcc gcc-4.6 gcc-4.6-base gcc-4.6-multilib gcc-multilib gcj-jre gcj-jre-headless gdm3 gettext gettext-base ghostscript gimp gimp-data gir1.2-clutter-1.0 gir1.2-cogl-1.0 gir1.2-coglpango-1.0 gir1.2-evince-3.0 gir1.2-gkbd-3.0 gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-mutter-3.0 gir1.2-totem-1.0 gnome-bluetooth gnome-contacts gnome-control-center gnome-control-center-data gnome-keyring gnome-panel gnome-panel-data gnome-settings-daemon gnome-shell gnome-shell-common gnome-sushi gnome-user-share gnuplot-nox gnuplot-x11 gstreamer0.10-plugins-bad gstreamer0.10-plugins-ugly gvfs gvfs-backends gvfs-bin gvfs-common gvfs-daemons gvfs-libs iceweasel iceweasel-l10n-de imagemagick inkscape k3b k3b-data kdebase-runtime kdelibs-bin kdelibs5-data kdelibs5-plugins kdoctools kig lazarus lib64gcc1 lib64gomp1 lib64quadmath0 lib64stdc++6 libavfilter2 libblas3gf libbrasero-media3-1 libclutter-1.0-0 libclutter-gst-1.0-0 libclutter-gtk-1.0-0 libclutter-imcontext-0.1-0 libcluttergesture-0.0.2-0 libcogl-pango0 libcommons-compress-java libdb5.1-java libdb5.1-java-gcj libdpkg-perl libedataserverui-3.0-1 libegl1-mesa libegl1-mesa-drivers libequinox-osgi-java libevolution libfolks-eds25 libgcc1 libgcj-bc libgck-1-0 libgcr-3-1 libgfortran3 libgimp2.0 libgl1-mesa-dev libgl1-mesa-glx libglapi-mesa libgomp1 libgphoto2-2 libgphoto2-2-dev libgraphicsmagick3 libgs9 libgs9-common libgtkhtml-4.0-0 libgtkhtml-4.0-common libgtkhtml-editor-4.0-0 libk3b6 libkatepartinterfaces4 libkcddb4 libkcmutils4 libkde3support4 libkdecore5 libkdesu5 libkdeui5 libkdewebkit5 libkdnssd4 libkemoticons4 libkfile4 libkhtml5 libkidletime4 libkio5 libkjsapi4 libkjsembed4 libkmediaplayer4 libknewstuff3-4 libknotifyconfig4 libkntlm4 libkonq-common libkparts4 libkprintutils4 libkpty4 libkrosscore4 libktexteditor4 libkutils4 liblapack3gf liblvm2app2.2 libmlt++3 libmutter0 libmx-1.0-2 libnepomuk4 libnepomukquery4a libnepomukutils4 libnspr4-0d libnss3-1d libnunit-cil-dev libpackagekit-glib2-14 libplasma3 libpstoedit0c2a libpulse-mainloop-glib0 libpulse0 libpurple0 libqt4-dbus libqt4-declarative libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-scripttools libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-xml libqt4-xmlpatterns libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libquadmath0 libsdl1.2-dev libsdl1.2debian libsocialweb-client2 libsocialweb0 libsolid4 libsox-fmt-alsa libsox-fmt-base libstdc++6 libstdc++6-4.6-dev libstreamanalyzer0 libstreams0 libswt-cairo-gtk-3-jni libswt-glx-gtk-3-jni libswt-gnome-gtk-3-jni libswt-gtk-3-java libswt-gtk-3-jni libswt-webkit-gtk-3-jni libthreadweaver4 libtiff4 libtiff4-dev libtiffxx0c2 libtotem-plparser17 libvcdinfo0 libvlc5 libwine libwine-alsa libwine-bin libwine-capi libwine-cms libwine-dbg libwine-dev libwine-gl libwine-gphoto2 libwine-ldap libwine-openal libwine-oss libwine-print libwine-sane libxerces2-java-gcj libxine1 libxine1-bin libxine1-misc-plugins linux-image-686-pae melt mesa-common-dev mesa-utils module-init-tools mplayer mutt mutter-common nautilus nautilus-data nautilus-sendto obex-data-server openshot oss-compat packagekit packagekit-backend-aptcc passwd perlmagick pidgin pidgin-data plasma-scriptengine-javascript poppler-data printer-driver-foo2zjs procps pulseaudio pulseaudio-esound-compat pulseaudio-module-x11 pulseaudio-utils python-apt python-bzrlib python-dbus qdbus ruby seahorse software-properties-gtk sox synaptic tomboy totem totem-common totem-mozilla totem-plugins transcode ttf-freefont ttf-lyx udisks ufraw-batch vcdimager virtualbox virtualbox-dbg virtualbox-guest-dkms virtualbox-guest-utils virtualbox-guest-x11 virtualbox-qt vlc vlc-data vlc-nox vlc-plugin-notify vlc-plugin-pulse wine wine-bin xfonts-mathml xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-input-evdev xserver-xorg-input-synaptics xserver-xorg-input-wacom xserver-xorg-video-apm xserver-xorg-video-ark xserver-xorg-video-ati xserver-xorg-video-chips xserver-xorg-video-cirrus xserver-xorg-video-fbdev xserver-xorg-video-geode xserver-xorg-video-i128 xserver-xorg-video-i740 xserver-xorg-video-intel xserver-xorg-video-mach64 xserver-xorg-video-mga xserver-xorg-video-neomag
Re: Debian multimedia repository
On Mi, 01 aug 12, 22:30:52, Teemu Likonen wrote: > Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: > > > My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian > > Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using > > Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. > > Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very > hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been > easy in Debian. The versioning scheme of Deb Multimedia packages is meant to take priority over the Debian proper packages, but this can create problems under certain circumstances. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Squeeze 6.0.6
On Mi, 01 aug 12, 02:22:40, Mark Panen wrote: > Hi, > > Google is not my friend today. > > Does anyone know more or less when Squeeze 6.0.6 will be released? Probably when there are enough (security) updates to warrant a new point release. But why do you ask? Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: PCIe debugging error messages - kern.log
I have checked to make sure Debug hasn't been redirected; I will ask the debian-kernel list and see if I can find anything there. Thanks for the help folks. --Andrew On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 12:51 PM, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012, Andrew Peng wrote: >> I've been working with the Intel E1000 development team in trying to >> find the cause of a hardware hang in my kern.log: >> >> Jul 24 02:49:45 gaia kernel: [806292.204500] e1000e :02:00.0: >> eth1: Detected Hardware Unit Hang: > > Meh, we've just seen those in one of our servers at work, for the first > time ever. > >> This will tell the driver to dump extended debugging (a PCIe Ring >> Dump) info to the kernel log with another error is detected. However, >> after enabling this extended logging, the next time an error occurs, I >> still don't get the debug dump in the kern.log. I get basically the >> same info as above. > > Check whether loglevel DEBUG is being redirected somewhere, in > /etc/rsyslog.conf or /etc/syslog.conf, etc. > > -- > "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring > them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond > where the shadows lie." -- The Silicon Valley Tarot > Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cabrz_k2p+zchf1ggeylejj4mr8415hlo2dn4pj6a45305v9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian multimedia repository
Titanus Eramius [2012-08-01 21:18:03 +0200] wrote: > My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian > Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using > Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Now I got curious because that sound so general. What makes it very hard? In my experience installing and removing packages has always been easy in Debian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/8762924dg3@mithlond.arda
Re: Debian multimedia repository (was: Shockwave Flash)
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 21:20:59 +0300 Teemu Likonen wrote: > Gary Dale [2012-08-01 13:55:09 -0400] wrote: > > > Agreed. I would also advise people to stay away from > > debian-multimedia. It's packages are incompatible with standard > > Debian packages in many cases. [...] debian-multimedia can be too > > much of a headache. > > It has worked fine the seven or eight years I've been using it. So, it > depends. Different Debian releases and different packages vary so much > that I think we can't say that Debian multimedia is good or bad as a > whole. Instead we could warn users that occasionally there are > incompatible packages. > > My 2 cents on this is, that once packages is installed from Debian Multimedia it's very hard to go back to stable. But if one keeps using Debian Multimedia there are rarely any problems. Cheers -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120801211803.0cae2...@asrock.local.aptget.dk
Re: CIFS and data integrity
Am Sonntag, 29. Juli 2012 schrieb Mark Fletcher: > Ahoy the list! Hi Mark, > I use a Buffalo 4TB NAS using RAID which I mount from my Debian Wheezy > AMD64 running on a self-built Intel Core i7 920-based machine. > > I want to be able to read and write the NAS from the Linux machine > with minimum fuss. I also run a virtual Win7 guest on my Linux host, > and want to be able to access the NAS from there also. I explicitly > mount the NAS from the Linux host when I want it, and just access it > from the Windows guest using Windows Explorer by referring to the NAS > by its network name. I wouldn't _object_ to being able to auto-mount > the NAS on boot of the host, as long as doing so doesn't cause untold > hassle if the NAS is not available. > > One purpose of having the NAS is a place to store backups as > protection against disk crashes on the Linux host, VM disasters, etc. > > Currently I mount the NAS on my Linux box using the following command > as root. I am wondering if there is something wrong with this command > as I will explain in a moment: > > mount -t cifs /share -o guest /mnt/nas > > After having done this, I can read data on the nas as any user by > referring to /mnt/nas. It seems that to write I have to be root, which > is inconvenient and something I'd rather avoid but not a disaster. It might be that the Samba server on the NAS – I bet Buffalo uses Samba here – might not return ownership information. In that case, you can make all files owned by a certain user with the uid/gid mount options. See manpage of mount.cifs. > The issue is this: It seems that data I write there after mounting is > not maintaining 100% fidelity. Here's an example: > > Dump a mysql database I have on my Linux host: > > mysqldump yahdahyahdahyahdah > /opt/recovery/mysql20120725.sql > > Then bzip2 the puppy: > > cd /opt/recovery > bzip2 mysql20120725.sql > > Test the correctness of the archive > bzip2 -t mysql20120725.sql.bz2 > > (One time I also extracted it all again to a different directory and > diffed with the original to make sure it was good and could be > extracted back to the original) > > This produces a demonstrably-correct compressed archive of my db > backup, about 150MB in size. > > Now copy that to the NAS: > > cp mysql20120725.sql.bz2 /mnt/nas/dbbackup > > (directory /dbbackup already existed on the NAS) > > That copy operation results in a file on the NAS that is identical in > size to the one I copied. > > cd /mnt/nas/dbbackup > > bzip2 -t mysql20120725.sql.bz2 > > ... results in a failed test saying the archive is corrupted. Fair > enough, I thought, perhaps bzip2 doesn't like operating over the > network. So I then copied the backup file back to a different location > on the host, bzip2 -t 'd it there, and got the same error. Could you please try it that way: dd if=/dev/zero of=lotsofszeros bs=1M count=10 sha1sum lotsofszeros cp lotsofzeros /mnt/nas/ sha1sum lotsofszeros With hd or xxd you could get a hexdump. If the issue does not trigger with zeros, then use sha1sum your database backup file and then copy it and sha1sum it again. Thats just to verify the whole thing a bit more. Just to make sure also copy the file locally and verify sha1sum. It might be an issue local to your client. > It looks like what got stored on the NAS is not exactly what was > originally on the host. This is a huge problem for me as it means I > can't rely on backups dumped on that device. Is there something wrong > with the way I am mounting the NAS that is leading to this? As you have Wheezy I assume you use kernel 3.2. As to what I have seen that is stable with CIFS, but I didn´t specifically test for data integrity either. But the Buffalo NAS might be using some real old stuff. I doubt they would sell something that doesn´t store data correctly. But it might be… I would check whether there is a firmware update. If that does not help I would check what the Buffalo NAS has to say about the RAID integrity and the harddisks. If thats okay, then you may consider putting a Debian onto the NAS. As to my knowledge this should be possible at least with certain models. But I am not sure whether only chroot or a complete replacement is possible. A complete replacement would be better in order to get a more recent kernel onto the box. (Now thats why I want something that I can install Debian too and do it all by myself.) Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208012104.09407.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Debian multimedia repository (was: Shockwave Flash)
Gary Dale [2012-08-01 13:55:09 -0400] wrote: > Agreed. I would also advise people to stay away from > debian-multimedia. It's packages are incompatible with standard Debian > packages in many cases. [...] debian-multimedia can be too much of a > headache. It has worked fine the seven or eight years I've been using it. So, it depends. Different Debian releases and different packages vary so much that I think we can't say that Debian multimedia is good or bad as a whole. Instead we could warn users that occasionally there are incompatible packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a9ye4gok.fsf...@mithlond.arda
Re: Shockwave Flash
On 01/08/12 01:12 PM, Slavko wrote: hi, Dňa Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:05:24 +0200 Thierry Chatelet napísal: On Wednesday 01 August 2012 18:18:07 Luiz L. Marins wrote: **apt-get remove gnash* apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree After you have put deb-multimedia repo in your sources.list You are not right, the flashplugin-nonfree is part of debian contrib: LANG=C aptpo flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-nonfree: Installed: 1:2.8.5 Candidate: 1:2.8.5 Version table: *** 1:2.8.5 0 500 http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/ testing/contrib amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Agreed. I would also advise people to stay away from debian-multimedia. It's packages are incompatible with standard Debian packages in many cases. While I respect what Christian Marillat is doing, unless he can work out the differences with the Debian packages (apparently not an easy thing to do), debian-multimedia can be too much of a headache. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50196d7d.9080...@rogers.com
Re: Shockwave Flash
hi, Dňa Wed, 1 Aug 2012 19:05:24 +0200 Thierry Chatelet napísal: > On Wednesday 01 August 2012 18:18:07 Luiz L. Marins wrote: > > **apt-get remove gnash* > > > > apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree > > After you have put deb-multimedia repo in your sources.list You are not right, the flashplugin-nonfree is part of debian contrib: LANG=C aptpo flashplugin-nonfree flashplugin-nonfree: Installed: 1:2.8.5 Candidate: 1:2.8.5 Version table: *** 1:2.8.5 0 500 http://ftp.cz.debian.org/debian/ testing/contrib amd64 Packages 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Shockwave Flash
Am Dienstag, 31. Juli 2012 schrieb Fred Zinsli: > Hi all Hi Fred, > Been playing with this for days, but just don't have a clue about what > I'm supposed to be doing or looking for to help. > > Attempting to install shockwave flash so I can view swf files in a web > browser. > > It isn't working for me, but what makes it worse is I can't seem to > find any real information in any log files. So I am obviously looking > in the wrong place or I haven't turned on logging for any browser. > > Browsers: Firefox, google-chrome, chromium, iceweasel > > Shockwave appears as a plugin in firefox but not in others. > > Any comments would be most helpful. I suggest using apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree in order to install the flash player. For Squeeze you might need a version from squeeze- backports. But in case you did use something else to install the flash player get rid of that first. For some stuff gnash or lightspark might be okay, last weeks I test again with them and too much stuff still was not working nicely. So take care that your flashplugin-nonfree is selected: merkaba:~> LANG=C update-alternatives --display flash-mozilla.so flash-mozilla.so - auto mode link currently points to /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so /usr/lib/flashplugin-nonfree/libflashplayer.so - priority 50 /usr/lib/gnash/libgnashplugin.so - priority 10 /usr/lib/lightspark/liblightsparkplugin.so - priority 0 Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/flashplugin- nonfree/libflashplayer.so'. flashplugin-nonfree is the Debian way to install Adobe Flash. Ciao, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208011908.40455.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: systemd
Am Mittwoch, 1. August 2012 schrieb Michael Biebl: > On 31.07.2012 21:05, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > technical arguments like its Linux only and I found some limitations > > myself like its init script compabitibility does not take care of > > further initscript arguments like for openvpn initscript to tell it > > which VPN to start due to not supporting something like this at its > > design level > > As Tollef told you in [1], systemd solves this kind of issue with > instanced services. This is not a "limitation" at its "design level", > it just means that sysvinit and systemd solve this particular problem > in a different way which can't be mapped via a compat layer. Use case is: /etc/init.d/openvpn start myvpn or some other vpn, as I wish. I understood Tollef´s comment as that I need several service files for several VPNs. In that understanding I saw a limitation at the design level. But I see now in „man systemd.service“ that it is possible to use environment variables in the ExecStart option, thus it should be possible to do something like this – I thought this would only be possible for variables systemd provides by itself: VPN=myvpn systemctl start openvpn.service which would be similar enough. > [1] http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=682615#10 Thanks, -- Martin 'Helios' Steigerwald - http://www.Lichtvoll.de GPG: 03B0 0D6C 0040 0710 4AFA B82F 991B EAAC A599 84C7 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208011907.51551.mar...@lichtvoll.de
Re: Shockwave Flash
On Wednesday 01 August 2012 18:18:07 Luiz L. Marins wrote: > **apt-get remove gnash* > > apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree > After you have put deb-multimedia repo in your sources.list -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201208011905.24514.tchate...@free.fr
Re: systemd
On Ma, 31 iul 12, 20:57:57, Martin Steigerwald wrote: > > Plus I think it makes sense to base a decision whether a software is > suitable for me or not on technical facts and my own preferences on how I > want the software to work for me. +1 > For me it is utterly, totally and absolutely irrelevant what Lennart or > any other developer does with his / her free time. +1 > And I agree that personal attacks do not belong here independently of the > visibility in public. +1 (and thanks for saving me the typing :p ) Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] secure passwords (was Re: is it rational to close the 139 port)
On Ma, 31 iul 12, 17:57:38, Bob Proulx wrote: > > The problem is how many of those can you keep straight in your head? > How many web sites and systems all need one of those unique passwords? > And you aren't reusing those passwords on multiple unrelated sites are > you? > > As with all things xkcd has already addressed this problem. > > http://xkcd.com/792/ Thanks! > Reusing passwords is a problem. Which means that trying to remember > the unique password for that site is going to be a burden. If you > have some scheme of encoding the site into the password using some > algorithm unique and secure to you then great. There is a password manager that does exactly this... (searching), well it's not exactly a manager... http://passwordmaker.org Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: [OT] Intelectual Property Law [WAS: Re: what graphic card to buy?]
On Mi, 01 aug 12, 00:59:29, Yaro Kasear wrote: > On 07/31/2012 01:42 PM, Celejar wrote: > >On Fri, 20 Jul 2012 10:30:50 +0300 > >Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > >>On Jo, 19 iul 12, 22:50:25, Celejar wrote: > >>>Quite true - and completely irrelevant to my point. I don't deny that > >>>money can be made with FLOSS, just that it's pointless to try to sell > >>>copies of one's software if it's freely copyable. The examples you give > >>>are all of models other than the straightforward sale of licenses or > >>>copies. > >>IMO a business model that relies on the possibility to sell copies that > >>basically cost nothing to produce is broken. > >Is this a moral claim, a business one, a legal one, or just plain dogma? None of the above. I just think that such a business model will collapse as soon as the consumers: - realize the stupidity (they are starting to, probably that's why not many people care so much about illegal copies of music and movies - have comparable alternatives > Ironically, selling GPL software you had absolutely no hand in > developing or contributing to is an actual right the GPL guarantees. > This might not be the best example of how "advantageous" open source > can be. And probably not one of those cases in the GPL that > guarantees "morality" as the FSF might see it. > > Theoretically, I can buy a 500 stack of DVDs, burn Debian to all of > them, and sell them for $50 a pop because the GPL says I can. There > is a difference, though, between having the right to do so and > actually have even a small sampling of success. Worse, I come off as > a leech from the community, especially if I don't give a nickel of > that money back to the Debian project. > > I forget the point I'm making. Oh, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against the GPL allowing to sell software[1]. But the fact that you can't rely on any kind of exclusivity[2] businesses add value to their offering, like additional support, etc. [1] Technically you're not selling the software, but the media, but it doesn't matter for this discussion. [2] each one of your customers would be able to compete with you, since he is allowed to distribute the software as well. Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: links won't open using icedove/wheezy
On 07/31/2012 07:17 AM, chymian wrote:
> hi everybody,
>
>> Just checking to see if others are having the same problem.
> yes indeed.
> I had 2 mailthreats about this on the debian-user-german.
>
> 1. icedove does not open external links.
> it opened the browser, but did not handover the URL.
> I had to got to the KDE systemsettings and manually change the file
> association (program which is called) entry to
>
> iceweasel %u
> (or x-www-browser %u, setting up the system alternatives to iceweasel.)
>
> for all http/https.
>
> 2. I changed in the .icedove//prefs.js
>
> user_pref("network.protocol-handler.external.http", true);
>
> to true.
> while callening external links does work now, it had a major impact on
> beeing able to add new accounts to ID.
> while checking a new imap/smtp server, a link opened in iceweasel,
> trying to get info about the mail-server. in this case, I used
> self-signed certificates on my dovcot-server and STARTTLS.
>
> switching this value back to "false", I can add new mailservers, but not
> open external links.
>
> for the time being, I have to choose, which misbehaviour I can live with
> at the moment.
>
> my system:
> wheezy,amd64
> KDE 4.8.4
> iceweasel 10.0.6esr-1
> icedove 10.0.5-1
>
>
>
> günter
>
>
Gunter,
I've found most of what you mentioned and have made changes but I still
only get my home page in Iceweasel, not the link in the email I clik
on. Is that what you get? Can you get to Iceweasel but not to the
exact link?
Also, you mention in user_prefs, the line in pref.js
user_pref("network.protocol-handler.external.http", true);
Well, I don't have that specific line in my user_prefs. Did you add the
line or just change the false to true?
I'm at a loss. I've found some info in bugtracking but it's from 2007
and it's talking about not getting to iceweasel. Again, I can get to
Iceweasel but not the exact link.
TIA for your help.
Whit
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Re: Why compiling.
On Ma, 31 iul 12, 13:21:40, Celejar wrote: > > > > From where? Your network is down and your other machine runs on a custom > > kernel. > > Plug the regular machine straight into the internet connection (cable > modem) and grab an appropriate kernel. Devil's advocate mode: sorry, your ISP requires PPPoE, but you don't have ppp and whatever else needed installed :p Kind regards, Andrei -- Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Shockwave Flash
**apt-get remove gnash* apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree * * Em 01-08-2012 12:27, Gary Dale escreveu: On 01/08/12 10:11 AM, Kent West wrote: If you haven't already tried it, aptitude install gnash Do you have recent experience with gnash? The last time I tried it, it didn't work very well. I'd prefer to use it over proprietary software.
Re: Icedove opens Opera from Icedove e-mail links
On 01/08/2012 16:53, Camaleón wrote: On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:05:57 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: Using Squeeze amd64 6.0.5 Using Icedove 10.0.3 My preferences>Attachments is empty. Preferences>advanced>Config Editor does not help when I change the string to /usr/bin/iceweasel still opens the Icedove e-mail links in Opera. network.protocol-handler.app.http;/usr/bin/iceweasel Any help on this one please, i want to open my links in Iceweasel? Try with the suggested step listed here: Default for foreign programs (system-wide) http://wiki.debian.org/HOWTO/DefaultWebBrowser Greetings, cool thanks, it works 100's -- Cheers Mark -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50194ebc.2050...@gmail.com
Re: Shockwave Flash
On 01/08/12 10:11 AM, Kent West wrote: If you haven't already tried it, aptitude install gnash Do you have recent experience with gnash? The last time I tried it, it didn't work very well. I'd prefer to use it over proprietary software. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50194aec.1000...@rogers.com
Re: kmail in background?
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 08:10:56 +0200, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote: > does anybody know, why there is already an instance aka process running > of kmail in the background, when kde is fresh started? Nope, but being Kmail and Akonadi/Nepomuk/Strigi related stuff it can be a feature to enhance the user experience -to speed it up- so there isn't any noticeable delay. Just kidding :-P Now seriuosly, I wouldn' be surprised that is started on purpose. > 1. I am always starting kmail manually, but the process is already > runnning and mails are fetched in the background. > > 2. I saved the kde session, without any running kmail before logout, but > after a new start of kde, the process appears again. > > Maybe I missed something. > > Thanks for any hints. Do a quick test: create a user user, login with it and check if the KMail "phantom" instance is also running there. If the process is not there, search for any ".desktop" file placed in your usual's user ~/.kde4/ Autostart directory. If the process is also there, try to dissable akonadi/strigi/nepomuk and retry. Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvbgqa$t5n$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: SSL problem/help
01.08.2012 16:43, Benjamin Martin: > Do you think its worth sending an email (or posting) to OpenSSL to > inform them of the issue? (I guess it could be bug) Though I don't think that people will get hurt if you send a mail to the OpenSSL folks, I'm not sure if you tell them something new. There was a discussion on postfix-users recently because similar problems were observed (interestingly it was about postfix on Ubuntu Oneiric). So you're very likely not the first one who is affected by this problem. -- Regards mks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50194435.1000...@list-post.mks-mail.de
Re: Icedove opens Opera from Icedove e-mail links
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 03:05:57 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > Using Squeeze amd64 6.0.5 > > Using Icedove 10.0.3 > > My preferences>Attachments is empty. > > Preferences>advanced>Config Editor does not help when I change the > string to /usr/bin/iceweasel still opens the Icedove e-mail links in > Opera. > > network.protocol-handler.app.http;/usr/bin/iceweasel > > Any help on this one please, i want to open my links in Iceweasel? Try with the suggested step listed here: Default for foreign programs (system-wide) http://wiki.debian.org/HOWTO/DefaultWebBrowser Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvbftv$t5n$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Squeeze 6.0.6
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 02:22:40 +0200, Mark Panen wrote: > Google is not my friend today. Google is (still) not good for searching into the future :-P > Does anyone know more or less when Squeeze 6.0.6 will be released? Can't tell, but these notices are usually prepared and announced at debian-news or debian-project mailing list (for example¹), maybe you can consider subscribing or following those sources to be up-to-date. http://www.debian.org/News/2012/20120512 Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvbff3$t5n$1...@dough.gmane.org
Re: SSL problem/help
On 01/08/12 14:59, Markus Schönhaber wrote: The important difference between the two machines is probably the different versions of OpenSSL. Wheezy has OpenSSL 1.0.1 which introduces new TLS protocols (TLS v1.1, v1.2). The server seems to be unable to cope with those new protocols. Thanks for the help :) I tried things on a newer Ubuntu thinking that it will have a newer version of OpenSSL (which it does). Ubuntu 12.04 openssl version OpenSSL 1.0.1 14 Mar 2012 Debian "testing" openssl version OpenSSL 1.0.1c 10 May 2012 As you can see althou the versions are not exactly the same, the major version numbers are... so I would expect the Ubuntu version to fail in the same way the Debian one does ... supprisingly it does NOT (as in, the Ubuntu version works without a problem) Having a quick look at the OpenSSL change log (http://www.openssl.org/news/changelog.html) I can see the differences in the versions hint at TLS behaviour alterations ... so the problem is down to the version of OpenSSL (just as you said) Do you think its worth sending an email (or posting) to OpenSSL to inform them of the issue? (I guess it could be bug) Thanks again, -b -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50194078.9060...@venda.com
Centrino wireless: good results with kernel 3.4 from experimental repo
Concerning Debian Squeeze/Wheezy wireless: I have Dell Precision M4600 and have had a lot of trouble connecting to wireless networks. I was constantly failing to join networks, as described https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=676382 and on other bug trackers. Here's my blog about it http://pj.freefaculty.org/blog/?p=85. But it appears good now. Following instructions at http://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental, I got a working 3.4 linux-image. And the wireless performance driver is much better! I'm not able to confirm or deny claims that the speed of transmission is slower or faster than it ought to be with 3.4, but I can say honestly that the ability to associate with routers is much much better. The best part is that the install is easy, it does not require the changes to any other packages. The new kernel is a boot-time option (grub), and if you don't like it, you are not stuck with it. But I bet you will like it. It is this easy. Create this file. $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/experimental.list deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian experimental main Run $ sudo apt-get update >From there I only installed linux-image-3.4-trunk-amd64 3.4.4-1~experimental.1 Linux 3.4 for 64-bit PCs linux-headers-3.4-trunk-all-amd643.4.4-1~experimental.1 All header files for Linux 3.4 (meta-package) linux-kbuild-3.4 3.4-1~experimental.1 Kbuild infrastructure for Linux 3.4 My system has nvidia proprietary drivers and a few other components set up as kernel modules with dkms. All of those were updated automatically, everything "just worked". pj -- Paul E. Johnson Professor, Political ScienceAssoc. Director 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504 Center for Research Methods University of Kansas University of Kansas http://pj.freefaculty.orghttp://quant.ku.edu -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caerodj-73a9artltedfkbffb-3gxcdtwznqbb-2_1z-5af6...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Testing lightdm not remembering session
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 17:06:03 -0700, David Christensen wrote: > I installed Debian Testing amd64 with the Debian desktop environment. I > then installed task-xfce-desktop, including lightdm and setting lightdm > as the default desktop manager. (...) > When I log out, leaving the check box "Save session for future login" > checked", and then login again leaving the "Default Xsession" drop-down > alone, I am logged in to a Gnome desktop, in spite of the contents of > ~/.dmrc: > > 2012-07-31 17:04:01 dpchrist@i72600s ~ $ cat .dmrc > > [Desktop] > Session=xfce So in brief, the problem you experiment is that the selected session is not saved as the default from lightdm, correct? > Any suggestions? A couple of hints: 1/ Try with any of these options (classic method/new method): http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch07.en.html#_customizing_the_x_session_classic_method 2/ Read the comments and suggested steps listed here: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=648220 And you may also find useful these ones: http://askubuntu.com/questions/62833/how-do-i-change-the-default-session-for-when-using-auto-logins http://wiki.debian.org/LightDM Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvbevp$t5n$9...@dough.gmane.org
Re: is it rational to close the 139 port
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 10:08:28 + Bonno Bloksma wrote: > Hi, > > >> Gibberish implies one wouldn't be able to remember the > >> password/phrase. > > > Which is why, as Bruce Schneir recommends, you _write it down_. > > Which is what I do. Whenever I need a new password I open my editor, > close my eyes, randomly hit several keys on my keyboard and Bingo new > random password. I store it securely on my computer and that's it. > Oh, and to make sure it is indeed hard enough to guess. If I do not see > enough captitals, numbers en punctuations in there I will insert a few > extra. Just use something like pwgen or apg. > Bonno Bloksma Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120801102309.6d8f97fa.cele...@gmail.com
Re: is it rational to close the 139 port
On Tue, 31 Jul 2012 20:31:56 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 06:15:26PM +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > > On Mon, 30 Jul 2012 11:54:14 -0500 > > John Hasler wrote: > > > > Hello John, > > > > >Brad Rogers writes: > > >> Yeah, on a Post-It note. Stuck to the monitor. > > >That's what people do when you tell them not to write it down. _Tell_ > > >them to write it down and tell them _how_. > > > > As it happens, I agree with you; write 'em down, and keep 'em safe. > > Or just have one, but make it a good 'un, and never tell anyone. > > Reasons: 1) If someone can brute force guess it, you've got other >problems. i.e. -- you're targetted! > 2) Clothes, possessions, etc. can be searched. You may never > know until its too late! > 3) If someone wants it, at least you'll know about it¹ > > Well, actually 2 - one for really important stuff, other for unimportant > stuff; I can trust my bank to keep it safe, but local supermarket is > another story. There have been numerous well-publicized breaches at banks, major retailers, etc. (and doubtless even more unpublicized ones). If / when hackers get your credentials to one institution, do you really want them to have the keys to all your accounts? Celejar -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20120801102209.a50706cc.cele...@gmail.com
Re: Automatic debug packages for Wheezy?
On Wed, 01 Aug 2012 00:16:16 +0200, Sascha Silbe wrote: > The lack of a debug package for libglib Just to be sure, you don't mean "libglib2.0-0-dbg", right? > reminded me (yet again) of a release goal that was originally set [1] > for Squeeze: Automatic building of debug packages [2]. Does anyone know > what happened to that goal? I would ask for the current status of this at "debian-devel". Greetings, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvbdjf$t5n$8...@dough.gmane.org
Re: Shockwave Flash
If you haven't already tried it, aptitude install gnash -- Kent On 7/31/12 7:12 PM, Fred Zinsli wrote: Hi Kent No, I can't see the site mentioned, I just get a black page (using firefox). Regards Fred > On 7/30/12 9:53 PM, Fred Zinsli wrote: >> >> Hi all >> >> Been playing with this for days, but just don't have a clue about what >> I'm supposed to be doing or looking for to help. >> >> Attempting to install shockwave flash so I can view swf files in a web >> browser. >> >> It isn't working for me, but what makes it worse is I can't seem to >> find any real information in any log files. So I am obviously looking >> in the wrong place or I haven't turned on logging for any browser. >> >> Browsers: Firefox, google-chrome, chromium, iceweasel >> >> Shockwave appears as a plugin in firefox but not in others. >> >> Any comments would be most helpful. >> > > Can you view a Shockwave site, such as www.homestarrunner.com? > > /Kent > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/50175ba1.80...@acu.edu > > -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/501938f8.1080...@acu.edu
Re: SSL problem/help
01.08.2012 14:30, Benjamin Martin: > I am having trouble connecting to a https url from machine A but not > from machine B. > > Both machines are on the same network, but machine A is debian-testing > and machine B is ubuntu 10.04. (both 64bit) The important difference between the two machines is probably the different versions of OpenSSL. Wheezy has OpenSSL 1.0.1 which introduces new TLS protocols (TLS v1.1, v1.2). The server seems to be unable to cope with those new protocols. > It is a perl script that is doing the connecting (same script on both > machines), on machine A it was reporting: >"500 Can't connect to api.channeladvisor.com:443 " > ... but not failing at all on B > > After doing some investigating, it seems the error message is abit > misleading, as I CAN connect to the host on port 443 .. some more > investigation shows that when I run this: > >openssl s_client -host api.channeladvisor.com -port 443 > > .. on machine B, I see nothing worrying and I can "GET /" the html page. > (it's a forbidden page, but it returns none the less) > > .. but on machine A, I get the following error: > >write:errno=104 >--- >no peer certificate available > > After some more investigation I found that if I add "-cipher 3DES" to > the command so it becomes: > >openssl s_client -host api.channeladvisor.com -port 443 -cipher 3DES > > It works! :) As would adding -tls1 which sets the protocol to TLSv1 (which means v1.x is not offered). > So this leaves me with a few questions/concerns. > > Why do I have to add the "-cipher" switch to get this to work? > > I am guessing there is slight problem with the cert at > "api.channeladvisor.com" as not all https sites have this problem ... > with that in mind I guess "testing" has been updated with stricter SSL > processing or is this a bug? > > If this is a bug I would like to report it > .. or ... > Does anyone know how to the "loosen" the SSL processing rules so the > cert at api.channeladvisor.com is deemed valid? As said above, it's probably not a cert but a protocol issue. I don't know how to tell Perl to not use specific TLS versions, sorry. > I don't really know what I am doing but I can use google and the command > line.. so sorry if I missed any important detail or broke a list rule > somehow... i am just abit stuck :( You have obviously tried to understand the problem, you have even come up with a workaround, you have described pretty decently what exactly you did - I don't see what else could be expected from you. > PS. I have tried this on gentoo and centos and all seem to be ok .. just > "testing" seems to display this problem I'd bet the Gentoo and CentOS systems you tried that on, come with an OpenSSL version < 1.0.1. -- Regards mks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019365a.10...@list-post.mks-mail.de
Re: slow hibernate after upgrade
Vincent Lefevre wrote: On 2012-07-31 16:08:12 -0500, hvw59601 wrote: After wheezy dist-upgrade desktop hibernate is twice as slow as before. I've also found that putting the by Debian/unstable laptop into sleep with Fn+F1 takes much longer than before. But this is more several dozens of seconds vs a few seconds in the past. It now takes 40 secs. to hibernate about 400.000 pages, before it took about 15 secs. But wakeup is still fast: 12 secs. But why does this happen? And how to circumvent it? Hugo -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/jvba9e$svo$1...@dough.gmane.org
SSL problem/help
Hello All, I am having trouble connecting to a https url from machine A but not from machine B. Both machines are on the same network, but machine A is debian-testing and machine B is ubuntu 10.04. (both 64bit) It is a perl script that is doing the connecting (same script on both machines), on machine A it was reporting: "500 Can't connect to api.channeladvisor.com:443 " ... but not failing at all on B After doing some investigating, it seems the error message is abit misleading, as I CAN connect to the host on port 443 .. some more investigation shows that when I run this: openssl s_client -host api.channeladvisor.com -port 443 .. on machine B, I see nothing worrying and I can "GET /" the html page. (it's a forbidden page, but it returns none the less) .. but on machine A, I get the following error: write:errno=104 --- no peer certificate available After some more investigation I found that if I add "-cipher 3DES" to the command so it becomes: openssl s_client -host api.channeladvisor.com -port 443 -cipher 3DES It works! :) So this leaves me with a few questions/concerns. Why do I have to add the "-cipher" switch to get this to work? I am guessing there is slight problem with the cert at "api.channeladvisor.com" as not all https sites have this problem ... with that in mind I guess "testing" has been updated with stricter SSL processing or is this a bug? If this is a bug I would like to report it .. or ... Does anyone know how to the "loosen" the SSL processing rules so the cert at api.channeladvisor.com is deemed valid? I don't really know what I am doing but I can use google and the command line.. so sorry if I missed any important detail or broke a list rule somehow... i am just abit stuck :( cheers, -b PS. I have tried this on gentoo and centos and all seem to be ok .. just "testing" seems to display this problem -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5019217e.90...@venda.com
slow DVD reading
Hi there. Ever since I heard about the Raspberry Pi, I dreamt of putting my entire DVD collection on a usb disk and having a DVD juke box that would fit into a DVD case. While I'm waiting for my Pi to arrive, I started copying DVDs onto ISOs - what can I say, I love those DVD menus. Unfortunately they take ages to copy. I'm using Brasero on kde-trinity and it never works out the estimated drive speed, but from the progress indications (3206MiB of 5726MiB) it looks like it's managing 3-4MiB per second. It's a Samsung RF711-S07UK laptop with a blu-ray drive, so I was expecting it to be able to read a lot faster. What, if anything, can I do to make it read faster? Regards, Philip Ashmore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/501917c4.4070...@philipashmore.com
Re: Squeeze 6.0.6
Hi, Dňa Wed, 01 Aug 2012 02:22:40 +0200 Mark Panen napísal: > Does anyone know more or less when Squeeze 6.0.6 will be released? when they will be prepared? ;-) regards -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: Question on pam_access cron configuration
Well thank you for this delightful answer. Yes, one could configure something like + : nobody : crond But that is something I would like to avoid (which I stated in the first email) since that would imply having this config on 500+ machines (each has the same access.conf) I am looking for the pam way to achieve this. Thanks Dominik 2012/8/1 emmanuel segura : > man access.conf > > 2012/8/1 Dominik Klein >> >> Hi >> >> I included pam_access in common-account in order to manage access to >> my machines. >> >> Now, cronjobs running as www-data or nobody cannot run because there >> is no entry in the access.conf - and I really don't want an entry for >> each cronjob. >> >> My approach on fixing this was to exclude common-account from >> /etc/pam.d/cron, but I still get >> >> CRON[pid]: pam_access(cron:account) access diened for user "nobody" from >> "cron" >> >> What's the correct (debian) way to deal with this situation? >> >> Regards >> Dominik >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >> listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: >> http://lists.debian.org/CAHY3NAYAyKoW=ly_knnbke20q0athqosfqqj0ugd2pg_7g7...@mail.gmail.com >> > > > > -- > esta es mi vida e me la vivo hasta que dios quiera -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAHY3NAYxo0wK7qz=66lmoz3b2q0-c6wwnquj1aoq_ubnn3w...@mail.gmail.com
