Re: need how to for debian 6 with postfix

2012-11-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
this is ubuntu's official doc.
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PostfixDovecotSASL#Installation
i also followed this but no help at all. still i can send messages
with out authentication.


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Re: need how to for debian 6 with postfix

2012-11-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
sorry, i mistakenly send the last message to your personal account. so
i am sending it again to this list

[cut]
>>
>
> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot
> http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_sasl_enable


> smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
> broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
> smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes
>
> #only localhost can relay via us without authentication
> mynetworks = 127.0.0.1
>
> smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
> #allow relay for authenticated users:
> permit_sasl_authenticated
> #allow relay for IPs in mynetworks
> permit_mynetworks
> # deny relay otherwise
> reject_unauth_destination
> ...

i believe that i already followed what you have written above
but additionally  dovecot setting  mentioned below.

smtpd_sasl_type = dovecot
smtpd_sasl_path = private/auth

what type of packages do i want.

i could not find package postfix-tls

so what i installed is posfix and dovecot-imap
since i am using dovecot SASL i didnt install other packages except
the 2 above and postfix-tls did not found.

>
> then reload postfix and try
>
> telnet localhost 25
> EHLO testme
> QUIT
>
> after the EHLO command, you should see two lines tarting with 220-AUTH
>

yes i did that and my ehlo shows this

250-mailsrv.mydomain.com
250-PIPELINING
250-SIZE 1024
250-VRFY
250-ETRN
250-STARTTLS
250-AUTH PLAIN LOGIN
250-AUTH=PLAIN LOGIN
250-ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES
250-8BITMIME
250 DSN

>
> note 1: comment out the submission service in master.cf and configure
> your mail clients to use port 587 (the standard submission port). this
> way you separate "submitted" mail traffic from the rest.
>

what do you mean by submission would you please explain a bit. so help
me understand this.



>
> note 2: the next step for configure TLS and only allow authentication
> for TLS protected sessions:
> smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes

does it requires postfix-tls package as i saw in old howtos. i can not
find this package in debian 6. even i try to find debian repo. maybe i
am doing some mistake. would you guide me on this please.



>
> see
> http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html
>
>
>
>
> you can paste the output of
> postconf -n
> one pastebin or the like and send the URL. (note the '-n' in the
> command: this will show locally modified parameters only).

ok ill do that as soon as i get to office and configure this.

Thanks

>
>
>
>


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Re: IMAP4/POP3 server that supports mbox?

2012-11-17 Thread staticsafe
On 11/18/2012 0:07, David Guntner wrote:
> mouss grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>> Le 18/11/2012 03:54, David Guntner a écrit :
>>> Sven Hartge grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
 The answer is: Dovecot
 
 Documentation for version 1 included in Debian Squeeze is at
  http://wiki.dovecot.org/
>>> 
>>> Thanks!  Missed that one while I was doing aptitude searches.
>>> :-) From the description, it sounds like it does what I want,
>>> and I don't see it declaring a conflict with Postfix or
>>> Procmail, so I'll give that a shot.
>> 
>> it actually works well with postfix (dovecot provides a simple 
>> authentication solution for postfix).
> 
> What do you mean by that?

He means SASL auth. [1]

>> dovecot also has Sieve support. with that, you shouldn't need
>> procmail anymore...
> 
> Well, that might be the case, but I'm completely unfamiliar with
> Sieve, while I can practically write Procmail recipes in my sleep.
> :-)  So as long as it doesn't interfere with Procmail, it's cool.
> 

Of course, you can either set the mailbox_command (if you are the only
user)[2] or use a .forward file. Like so:

"|/usr/bin/procmail"

> Thanks!
> 
> --Dave
> 
> 
> 

[1] - http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot
[2] - http://www.postfix.org/postconf.5.html#mailbox_command
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Re: IMAP4/POP3 server that supports mbox?

2012-11-17 Thread David Guntner
mouss grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> Le 18/11/2012 03:54, David Guntner a écrit :
>> Sven Hartge grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>>>
>>> The answer is: Dovecot
>>>
>>> Documentation for version 1 included in Debian Squeeze is at 
>>> http://wiki.dovecot.org/
>>
>> Thanks!  Missed that one while I was doing aptitude searches. :-)
>> From the description, it sounds like it does what I want, and I
>> don't see it declaring a conflict with Postfix or Procmail, so I'll
>> give that a shot.
> 
> it actually works well with postfix (dovecot provides a simple
> authentication solution for postfix).

What do you mean by that?

> dovecot also has Sieve support. with that, you shouldn't need procmail
> anymore...

Well, that might be the case, but I'm completely unfamiliar with Sieve,
while I can practically write Procmail recipes in my sleep. :-)  So as
long as it doesn't interfere with Procmail, it's cool. 

Thanks!

 --Dave





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Re: IMAP4/POP3 server that supports mbox?

2012-11-17 Thread mouss
Le 18/11/2012 03:54, David Guntner a écrit :
> Sven Hartge grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
>> David Guntner  wrote:
>> 
>>> Yes, I'm one of those fogies who still prefers the main mailbox
>>> for users to be in /var/spool/mail (which is apparently a link
>>> to /var/mail in Debian :-) ).
>> 
>>> I need an IMAP4/POP3 server which supports SSL, and while the
>>> IMAP server can access the userspace of the logged-in user to
>>> get to files in
>> 
>>> their home directories (such as $HOME/Mail for mail folder
>>> storage), I still use /var/spool/mail as the delivery point for
>>> the user's inbox.
>> 
>> The answer is: Dovecot
>> 
>> Documentation for version 1 included in Debian Squeeze is at 
>> http://wiki.dovecot.org/
> 
> Thanks!  Missed that one while I was doing aptitude searches. :-)
> From the description, it sounds like it does what I want, and I
> don't see it declaring a conflict with Postfix or Procmail, so I'll
> give that a shot.
> 

it actually works well with postfix (dovecot provides a simple
authentication solution for postfix).

dovecot also has Sieve support. with that, you shouldn't need procmail
anymore...


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Re: need how to for debian 6 with postfix

2012-11-17 Thread mouss
Le 17/11/2012 18:29, Muhammad Yousuf Khan a écrit :
> i am using  debian 6. i need a howto for debian 6 + dovecot +
> smtp-auth + maildir feature (never mind if dovecot SASL or traditional
> SAS)
> 
> actually when i try google with these words. i found lots and lots of
> material and even i tried so many howtos but  so far i can play all
> aroundr with relay, maildir every thing working great however one
> thing making  my life living hell and that is smtp-auth which doesnot
> work for me.
> 
> smtp-authenticaltion. what i want is instead of putting my network in
> "mynetwork" i want
> every users whether inside user or any one from outside can always
> send email but with password authentication. i dont wana restrict user
> by subnet or IP but via user authentication.
> 
> i have read ispmail but that howto is on mysql and i want maildir. so
> please help.
> 
> 
> i tried many configs but failed
> 
> no matter what i do my clients are not authenticating. they can relay
> anonymously.
> 

http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_dovecot
http://www.postfix.org/SASL_README.html#server_sasl_enable


smtpd_sasl_auth_enable = yes
broken_sasl_auth_clients = yes
smtpd_sasl_authenticated_header = yes

#only localhost can relay via us without authentication
mynetworks = 127.0.0.1

smtpd_recipient_restrictions =
#allow relay for authenticated users:
permit_sasl_authenticated
#allow relay for IPs in mynetworks
permit_mynetworks
# deny relay otherwise
reject_unauth_destination
...

then reload postfix and try

telnet localhost 25
EHLO testme
QUIT

after the EHLO command, you should see two lines tarting with 220-AUTH


note 1: comment out the submission service in master.cf and configure
your mail clients to use port 587 (the standard submission port). this
way you separate "submitted" mail traffic from the rest.


note 2: the next step for configure TLS and only allow authentication
for TLS protected sessions:
smtpd_tls_auth_only = yes

see
http://www.postfix.org/TLS_README.html



> so i dont wana paste my config but what wanna do is to reconfigure it
> one more time with the help of some experience people who can suggest
> me a working howto.
> 

you can paste the output of
postconf -n
one pastebin or the like and send the URL. (note the '-n' in the
command: this will show locally modified parameters only).




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Re: IMAP4/POP3 server that supports mbox?

2012-11-17 Thread David Guntner
Sven Hartge grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> David Guntner  wrote:
> 
>> Yes, I'm one of those fogies who still prefers the main mailbox for
>> users to be in /var/spool/mail (which is apparently a link to /var/mail
>> in Debian :-) ).
> 
>> I need an IMAP4/POP3 server which supports SSL, and while the IMAP
>> server can access the userspace of the logged-in user to get to files in
> 
>> their home directories (such as $HOME/Mail for mail folder storage), I
>> still use /var/spool/mail as the delivery point for the user's inbox.
> 
> The answer is: Dovecot
> 
> Documentation for version 1 included in Debian Squeeze is at
> http://wiki.dovecot.org/

Thanks!  Missed that one while I was doing aptitude searches. :-)  From
the description, it sounds like it does what I want, and I don't see it
declaring a conflict with Postfix or Procmail, so I'll give that a shot.

Thanks again!

   --Dave





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Re: wheezy amd64: google-earth black screen

2012-11-17 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Am Freitag, 16. November 2012 schrieb Hugo Vanwoerkom:

Hi,


I installed google-earth, but on starting it all I get is a black 
screen.

Googling this you get 100's of hits, referring to things that I have
installed.
Relevant to this I have installed:

nvidia-glx
nvidia-glx-ia32
libgl1-nvidia-glx
nvidia-kernel-3.2.0-4-amd64
nvidia-kernel-common

with all their dependencies. Yet something is obviously missing :-(
any hints as to what it might be?
Running wheezy amd64 and this seems to be X's only problem...

Hugo


You must install nvidia-glx from the i386-repöository. Look in the 
wiki or howtos at "multiarch". You have to set up a multiarch 
environment.


On the other hand you can do as I did (I am lazy). I removed all nvidia-
packages and installed the nvidia-drivers from the nvidia site.

Pay attention, to build the 32-bit part, too.



Hans, I saw your previous post where you say:

"For those with the same problem: My workaround for now is just to 
deinstall every nvidia package and use the installer from the nvidia 
site. This let me install 64-bit and 32-bit driver, and googleearth is 
happily running again."


But when I install NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-304.60.run and then 
NVIDIA-Linux-x86-310.19.run I get a message:


ERROR: this .run file is intended for the
Linux-x86 platform, but you appear to be
running on Linux-x86_64.  Aborting installation.

How did you install both drivers?



Sorry, my mistake: you simply say "yes" when the nvidia-installer asks 
whether to install the 32-bit openGl libs... :-(



Hugo


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Re: IMAP4/POP3 server that supports mbox?

2012-11-17 Thread Sven Hartge
David Guntner  wrote:

> Yes, I'm one of those fogies who still prefers the main mailbox for
> users to be in /var/spool/mail (which is apparently a link to /var/mail
> in Debian :-) ).

> I need an IMAP4/POP3 server which supports SSL, and while the IMAP
> server can access the userspace of the logged-in user to get to files in
> their home directories (such as $HOME/Mail for mail folder storage), I
> still use /var/spool/mail as the delivery point for the user's inbox.

The answer is: Dovecot

Documentation for version 1 included in Debian Squeeze is at
http://wiki.dovecot.org/

Grüße,
Sven.

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IMAP4/POP3 server that supports mbox?

2012-11-17 Thread David Guntner
Yes, I'm one of those fogies who still prefers the main mailbox for
users to be in /var/spool/mail (which is apparently a link to /var/mail
in Debian :-) ).

I need an IMAP4/POP3 server which supports SSL, and while the IMAP
server can access the userspace of the logged-in user to get to files in
their home directories (such as $HOME/Mail for mail folder storage), I
still use /var/spool/mail as the delivery point for the user's inbox.  I
have a small enough userbase for my system that I don't need to worry
about lag times while doing directory lookups in a single mail
directory. :-)

As previously mentioned, I'm a Mandriva refugee. :-)  I've currently got
Debian installed in a VM on my Windows box for testing and to figure out
all the kinks before I actually do the install on the Linux box and
replace the existing OS.  On the box that's going to take the system
when the time comes, all my mailboxes for myself and my users are still
in mbox format, with the main user inbox being in /var/spool/mail/{user}
and their/my own personal mail "folders" being in $HOME/Mail/ as
separate files there.  And as for myself, I've got a LOT of those
folders in that format.  I don't know Maildir format & don't know if
there's something that lets you convert existing mail from mbox to
Maildir.  I use Postfix with Procmail as the LDA, and that can be
configured to deliver to mbox format.  (At least, I was able to do that
when I set up the Mandriva system; I'm assuming that's still so with
Debian.  It installed Exim by default when I set it up and I haven't
swapped out yet, but *it* is delivering mbox format to /var/spool/mail
when cron sends me mail.)

I've been searching the repositories for IMAP servers, but it seems like
the two big ones (Courier & Cyrus) are both locked into a Maildir
format.  Is there an IMAP4/POP3 server package available that will
support SSL logins ('cause in this day and age, using unencrypted logins
is just paining a bullseye on your system for someone with a sniffer to
hack) and will access my mail system the way I want it to?  Is there a
way to configure Courier or Cyrus to use mbox and /var/spool/mail?  If
not, are any of the other packages I saw listed capable of doing what I
want to do?

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cp, but preserve the dest attribute

2012-11-17 Thread T o n g
Hi, 

cp -a, or rsync -a, or cpio normally preserve the source attribute and 
set the destination attribute accordingly. Now my question is, is there 
any way for me to preserve the destination attribute and disregard the 
source attribute. Any way to make it possible, cp/rsync/cpio or something 
else?

If the request seems odd to you, think of when you update your script 
from vbox share folder. 

Thanks


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Re: SD card formatting problem

2012-11-17 Thread Greg Madden
On Saturday 17 November 2012 10:36:07 you wrote:
> I have a 32GB sd card that I have been trying to use as a transfer
> disk for a 19GB file. Each time, the file copies (cp command) to 4GB
> and stops. I tried to reformat to vfat with the same results. The df
> command shows the card has 32GB. I thought that vfat was only good to
> 4 GB but the card came formatted to vfat. Any suggestions? Can the
> card be formatted to ext3? Would that help? Is the card the problem?
> I am using a SanDisk USB card reader, model SDDR-113 which is
> supposed to handle 32GB cards. Debian Squeeze and Wheezy systems gave
> same results.
>
> Gary R.


Limitations of vfat file system, also does not archive file attributes. 

afaik, you can format with any file system. If compatabiltiy between a 
Windows box is not the issue I would use anything else. I have used 
ext2 for this, no journal.

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Re: SD card formatting problem

2012-11-17 Thread Beco
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 4:36 PM, Gary Roach  wrote:
> I have a 32GB sd card that I have been trying to use as a transfer disk for
> a 19GB file. Each time, the file copies (cp command) to 4GB and stops. I
> tried to reformat to vfat with the same results. The df command shows the
> card has 32GB. I thought that vfat was only good to 4 GB but the card came
> formatted to vfat. Any suggestions? Can the card be formatted to ext3? Would
> that help? Is the card the problem? I am using a SanDisk USB card reader,
> model SDDR-113 which is supposed to handle 32GB cards. Debian Squeeze and
> Wheezy systems gave same results.
>
> Gary R.
>


Hi Gary,

fat limits you with 4GiB files. So, if you don't want to format, you
can use split to break the file. Something like:

$tar czpvf - /path/archive | split -d -b 4096M - myfile

The only problem is that you need to cat the files back to extract.

$cat myfile* > onebigfile

or

$cat myfile* | tar xzpvf -

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Re: SD card formatting problem

2012-11-17 Thread Erwan David
On 17/11/12 20:36, Gary Roach wrote:
> I have a 32GB sd card that I have been trying to use as a transfer
> disk for a 19GB file. Each time, the file copies (cp command) to 4GB
> and stops. I tried to reformat to vfat with the same results. The df
> command shows the card has 32GB. I thought that vfat was only good to
> 4 GB but the card came formatted to vfat. Any suggestions? Can the
> card be formatted to ext3? Would that help? Is the card the problem? I
> am using a SanDisk USB card reader, model SDDR-113 which is supposed
> to handle 32GB cards. Debian Squeeze and Wheezy systems gave same
> results.
>
> Gary R.
>
>
fat-32 limits file size to 4GB, thus your limit. You may format it in
ext3 if your destination reads ext3.


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SD card formatting problem

2012-11-17 Thread Gary Roach
I have a 32GB sd card that I have been trying to use as a transfer disk 
for a 19GB file. Each time, the file copies (cp command) to 4GB and 
stops. I tried to reformat to vfat with the same results. The df command 
shows the card has 32GB. I thought that vfat was only good to 4 GB but 
the card came formatted to vfat. Any suggestions? Can the card be 
formatted to ext3? Would that help? Is the card the problem? I am using 
a SanDisk USB card reader, model SDDR-113 which is supposed to handle 
32GB cards. Debian Squeeze and Wheezy systems gave same results.


Gary R.


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need how to for debian 6 with postfix

2012-11-17 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
i am using  debian 6. i need a howto for debian 6 + dovecot +
smtp-auth + maildir feature (never mind if dovecot SASL or traditional
SAS)

actually when i try google with these words. i found lots and lots of
material and even i tried so many howtos but  so far i can play all
aroundr with relay, maildir every thing working great however one
thing making  my life living hell and that is smtp-auth which doesnot
work for me.

smtp-authenticaltion. what i want is instead of putting my network in
"mynetwork" i want
every users whether inside user or any one from outside can always
send email but with password authentication. i dont wana restrict user
by subnet or IP but via user authentication.

i have read ispmail but that howto is on mysql and i want maildir. so
please help.


i tried many configs but failed

no matter what i do my clients are not authenticating. they can relay
anonymously.

so i dont wana paste my config but what wanna do is to reconfigure it
one more time with the help of some experience people who can suggest
me a working howto.

Thanks.


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Re: http://wiki.debian.org/Self-Signed_Certificate ...

2012-11-17 Thread Tony Baldwin
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 07:55:53AM +0100, Cosme Domínguez Díaz wrote:
> /etc/apache2/ssl/localcerts/ is only an example directory where you
> can put apache.pem file.
> 
> What matters is that path of SSLCertificateFile should exist in the system.
> 
I would add:
And that apache be told where to find them.
On my main production server I have them in /etc/ssl/localcerts
I think /etc/ssl is a directory created by default on debian systems.
At least, I don't recall putting it there.
But, as indicated above, you can pretty well stick your certs anywhere
you like, so long as apache can access them and your apache configs
tell it where to find them.

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Re: debmirror failing to download sources (*.orig.*)

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 08:20:57PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> Gday, here's my debmirror cmd:
> 
> /usr/bin/debmirror --source --i18n --exclude='/Translation-.*\.bz2$'
> --include/Translation-(en).*\.bz2$' --exclude-deb-section=games
> --exclude-deb-section=debug --exclude-deb-section=news --verbose
> --progress --arch=amd64,i386
> --section=main,main/debian-installer,contrib,non-free
> --dist=wheezy,sid --host=ftp.iinet.net.au --method=ftp
> --root=debian/debian /public/debian/debian
> 
> (above should be a single line)
> 
> Here is the output (somewhat abbreviated since I deleted
> /public/debian/debian/.temp):
> Mirroring to /public/debian/debian from
> ftp://anonym...@ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/
> Arches: amd64,i386
> Dists: wheezy,sid
> Sections: main,main/debian-installer,contrib,non-free
> Including source.
> Pdiff mode: use
> Will clean up after mirroring.
> Attempting to get lock ...
> Updating remote trace files (using rsync) ...
> iiNet Rsync Server

I do not know why but you asked for ftp method but rsync is used.
 
> - Only have one rsync connection Per IP
> - No more then two rsync updates of a package per day
> 
> Excessive connections may result in your IP being firewalled for 24 hours.

They do not like using rsync this way.

Please check:
 /etc/debmirror.conf
 ~/.debmirror.conf


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Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,I thought about different approach ...

Since 

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 12:46:38AM +0900, Osamu Aoki wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> ...
> > I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I
> > just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working
> > for DEC I was much more into analog than digital.
> 
> I see.  I guess you were a VMS or some mainframe user...
> 
> As for apt-zip:
>  http://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-zip
>  http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt-zip.html
>  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=apt-zip
> 
> It seems somewhat stalled.  You may wish to takeover project to update
> it to be compatible with current apt repository.  The last update was
> 2008.

Usually, I recommend not to try to make full archive copy to reduce our
server load.  But if you are careful, this may be a simpler solution
than fixing apt-zip.  You may also avoid some parts of archive.  These
debian package maybe useful to be as efficient as possible to make
partial mirror.

 debmirror  http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debmirror.html
   (This is made by debhelper developer and current)
 apt-mirror http://apt-mirror.sourceforge.net/
http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt-mirror.html
 apt-p2phttp://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/
http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt-mirror.html

Osamu



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Re: which module for NTFS?

2012-11-17 Thread Tom H
On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 11:11 AM, Oleg Sadov  wrote:
> 17/11/2012 в 15:56 +0200, Rudi Ahlers wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 3:36 PM, Andrew Z  wrote:
>>
>> root@master:[~]$ yum install ntfs-3g
>> Loaded plugins: security
>> Setting up Install Process
>> No package ntfs-3g available.
>> Error: Nothing to do
>>
>> root@master:[~]$ yum search ntfs3-g
>> Loaded plugins: security
>> Warning: No matches found for: ntfs3-g
>> No Matches found
>>
>> root@master:[~]$ yum provides ntfs-3g
>> Loaded plugins: security
>> Warning: 3.0.x versions of yum would erroneously match against filenames.
>>  You can use "*/ntfs-3g" and/or "*bin/ntfs-3g" to get that behaviour
>> No Matches found
>>
>> root@master:[~]$ yum provides  "*/ntfs-3g"
>> Loaded plugins: security
>> No Matches found
>>
>> How did you install ntfs-3g on Scientific Linux 6.3?
>
> You may try to use packages from Scientific Linux Cyrillic Edition
> repository:
>
> http://downloads.naulinux.ru/pub/SLCE/6.3/i386/CyrEd/RPMS/
> http://downloads.naulinux.ru/pub/SLCE/6.3/x86_64/CyrEd/RPMS/

Or use epel or repoforge/rpmforge.


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Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sat, Nov 17, 2012 at 06:31:50AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
...
> I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was born. I
> just never had reason to have contact with *nix. Even when working
> for DEC I was much more into analog than digital.

I see.  I guess you were a VMS or some mainframe user...

As for apt-zip:
 http://alioth.debian.org/projects/apt-zip
 http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/apt-zip.html
 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?src=apt-zip

It seems somewhat stalled.  You may wish to takeover project to update
it to be compatible with current apt repository.  The last update was
2008.

> >By the way, we have some basics for use as:
> >   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/
> 
> Thanks for reminding me. I haven't used it as, being on a dial-up
> connection, online manuals are inconvenient. Is it available as a
> PDF or as a single HTML file?

For installation, you should start with Install Manual:
  http://www.debian.org/releases/testing/installmanual
  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual
  PDFs are available. 
  If you use 64bit PC, you want amd64 version.
  It is good idea to read this if you really wish to tweak.

It is available as Debian Package.
  http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-reference.html
  apt-get install debian-reference-en
  This is more about Unix shell focused.
  Once you install it, you can see it via browser.

(I know I used to have PDF.  Building PDF for non-English via XML->XeTeX
is still not so easy.  That will be my next project.  Maybe I should
enable just for English and French first which I know is easy.)

Another good source is THE DEBIAN ADMINISTRATOR'S HANDBOOK
  http://packages.qa.debian.org/d/debian-handbook.html
  apt-get install debian-handbook
  General guide.

> Is there a similar volume of preseeding, especially for those of us
> who insist on installing without the availability of an internet
> connection.
> [I'm in rural SW MO on the end of a 56k dial-up connection ;]

I see.  You got no speed limit for automobile but speed limit for
Internet.  56k should be practically impossible for tracking 
testing without apt-zip.

If you have access to fast network somewhere, download DVD-1 at least.
That should give you decent system. (There are 2 more DVDs to be
complete.)
  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/
  http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/errata

All you need is few file images.  You do not need network to install DVD
or CD.  (I checked how big archive is, it seems DLBL image is only
one... so guess)

If you do not install large desktop application and keep it just with
consoles, tracking testing may be possible with direct 56k connection.

Regards,

Osamu


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Re: Squeeze on a EEE PC 901, trackpad problems

2012-11-17 Thread berenger . morel
You will need the xserver-xorg-input-synaptics package, so you can use 
synclient.


Just run $synclient will let it show you a list of parameters you can 
change, when you have found the parameter you want, you can adjust it, 
just read the man, it is small enough to be readable.
Of course, this will not be a definitive change, so you will have to 
write the line in a script which will be run at each XFCE startup. IIRC, 
there is a tool in xfce where you can add commands automatically ran at 
start-up.


I hope I gave you enough details

Le 17.11.2012 04:05, zxcvbob a écrit :

I just installed Debian with the Xfce desktop on a EEE PC model 901.
I've got things working pretty well, but I can't enable tap-to-click 
on
the trackpad.  I go to Settings->Mouse in the Xfce menu, and there is 
no
tab or checkbox for tapping.  I'm guessing I need to enable something 
in X?


(I just barely know what I'm talking about) I've run Ubuntu Linux
before, but that was preconfigured.  I have never tried to set
everything up myself.

Thanks, Bob



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Re: jigdo + approx + netinstall -- need for a coherent system

2012-11-17 Thread Russell L. Harris
* Osamu Aoki  [121117 11:09]:
... 
> If you are half-offline, think about apt-zip ... 


I thank you for your observations, Osamu.

I was not aware of apt-zip; I may have use for it.

RLH


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Re: Password problem confirmed as repeatable - was [Re: Newbie password problem(s)]

2012-11-17 Thread Richard Owlett

Osamu Aoki wrote:

Hi,

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 01:53:47PM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:

Terho Uotila wrote:

Unless you want to try very minimal system you probably want shadow
passwords.


I do not understand.
Going by text displayed during the installation  I had the
impression that shadow passwords were for those overly paranoid
about supposed incremental security advantages. My machines will
effectively be the ultimate in single user systems. I will be the
only one with physical access. They will have only occasional
restricted access to the internet over a dial up connection. It is
very unlikely that there will ever be a LAN among my machines. I do
not see that Debian even claims that shadow passwords *could* be of
any benefit to me ;/


1. Use of shadow is almost standard these days.

2. If your are attacked while you are using user account to access
internet, the use of shadow password gives you one thin but extra
layer of protection to protect your root account after your user
account is hacked.

3. Disabling shadow does not give you much speed or space.  Configuring
system to odd configuration is usually not good idea since it is
tested less.


Chuckle.
One does not usually associated the word 
normal/standard/typical with me.

My whole goal is to do an install that I know is on the fringe.
That is why I bought a used laptop which will _*NOT*_ be 
connected to the internet for by experiments.






On Thu, 15 Nov 2012 11:04:21 -0600
Richard Owlett wrote:


2. Did not enable shadow passwords
(...)
3. Attempted "su", neither root nor user password accepted


You may have hit a bug.


Obviously there is a "bug".
The question is it me or Debian?


In this context, more likely Debian or its upstream.


I noticed a problem with disabling shadow
passwords some time back and I don't know if anyone has fixed it, as
(ahem) I haven't gotten around to reporting it yet...


For you I have such a deal.
I've submitted a bug [693...@bugs.debian.org] on which you may
comment.
This will be especially useful if the problem has been observed in
something later than version 6.0.5.



I recall (maybe wrongly) figuring out that when shadow passwords were
not enabled, installer still saved root password into shadow before
disabling it, or something on those lines.


I don't know. Though ~"3 score and 10", this is my first foray into
*nix.


Welcome and if you are newbie, stay within safe area :-)


That's no fun.


Do not try to do something complicated before getting system understood.


I'm what once was referred to as a kinesthetic learner. I 
learn by doing.
I've been a "computer user" since before Mr. Torvalds was 
born. I just never had reason to have contact with *nix. 
Even when working for DEC I was much more into analog than 
digital.





I could fix my installation at the time by going into single user mode
and changing root password, after which it worked correctly.


I don't understand that.


I did not know this but passwd package ships command called
shadowconfig.  Use "shadowconfig on".

See "man shadowconfig" and  /usr/share/doc/passwd/README.Debian for more.
(If you installed from CD, you may alternatively reinstall system ...)

By the way, we have some basics for use as:
   http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/


Thanks for reminding me. I haven't used it as, being on a 
dial-up connection, online manuals are inconvenient. Is it 
available as a PDF or as a single HTML file?


Is there a similar volume of preseeding, especially for 
those of us who insist on installing without the 
availability of an internet connection.

[I'm in rural SW MO on the end of a 56k dial-up connection ;]



Good luck,

Osamu





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Re: jigdo + approx + netinstall -- need for a coherent system

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 03:38:04PM +, Russell L. Harris wrote:
> Have I missed something?

maybe ... many iso images are there for people without good network
access.

... first think about what you really wish to do.

Let me assume your objective is to install the current testing system to
several machines on your LAN and keep them updated with minimal network
load, ...

> (1) "jigdo-lite" provides a foolproof and relatively easy method for
> the individual to keep on hand locally an up-to-date copy of one or
> more Debian releases, in the form of ISO images for CD or DVD.  In
> particular, "jigdo-lite":
...

Unless you are testing all ISO images, you do not need to have them all.
All you need is just the 1st CD image (not nessasary the latest one.
netinst image is good enough.) if you have decent network access.

> (2) However, there is no simple and obvious approach to automation of
> a jigdo update of set of images such as the images of the weekly Debian
> "testing" ("Wheezy") update.
...

You do not need to update it unless your image is broken badly with some
bug.

> (3) The "netinst" technique provides a simple and nearly-universal
> method for the installation of Debian.
...
Yep.

> (4) "approx" provides a simple method for the individual to install
> Debian in one or more machines in the local LAN, while eliminating the
> need to burn a stack of CDs or DVDs and shuffle the stack of disks
> during each installation.
...
Alternatively, you can run any http proxy server.  I used to use squid.
By setting it properly, your bandwidth is minimized.

Your first attempt to access repository for your jigdo image should be
cased and should be used later for installation if it has not been
changed and required. (This happens, I think, if you download large
CD/DVD image and decide to install via network.)

> (5) Moreover, "approx" provides the potential of a near-zero-bandwidth
> installation:
...
Yep.

> (6) With the advent of inexpensive flash USB sticks and solid-state
> drives, both CD and DVD today are obsolescent; indeed, it is common to
> see laptops which have no provision for an internal optical drive.

Creating USB image from CD image is documented somewhere like:
  http://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb
  http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#write-usb

> (7) "approx-import" allows ".deb" package files to be added to
> the "approx" cache.

If you accessed repository via approx for whatever need, those should be
cached already.  You usually specify proxy server with environment
variable for this.  Read each manual how to do this for each
application.  The "$http_proxy" environment variable can be used to
override proxy server setting in the "/etc/apt/apt.conf" file for apt.

http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_proxy_server_for_apt

There is no need to manually add them after download.

> %%%
> 
> In view of the foregoing considerations, it would be nice to see
> development of a procedure whereby "jigdo-lite", "approx", and
> "netinst" are transformed into a compatible and coherent system in
> which the logistics are simplified.  
> 
> (1) Perhaps nothing more than a script or two would be necessary.

none
 
> (2) It should be possible with a single command to update the weekly
> "testing" set of ISO images.

yes but why do this.  

> (3) There perhaps should be four sets of ".jigdo" and ".template"
> files:
> 
> - a set for CD images 
> - a set for DVD images
> - a set for a single "netinst" image 
> - a set for a single "tutti" (that is, "all together") image

???  Why you need these all ???

> (4) The "tutti" image, loop-mounted, could be the source for
> all other images.

??? yes but why make it so complicated.  The debs are all available in apt
proxy.  

> (5) With the "tutti" approach, one could obtain the weekly update of
> Debian "testing" by jigdo download of only a single file.
> Moreover, download of the single "tutti" file could be
> accomplished automatically by a script invoked by cron.

???
 
> (6) It should be possible to import files directly into the "approx"
> cache, irrespective of source: 
???

If you are half-offline, think about apt-zip ... 

Osamu


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Re: debmirror failing to download sources (*.orig.*)

2012-11-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
PS, running wheezy.


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Re: New Dovecot and Kmail

2012-11-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Montag, 12. November 2012 schrieb Darac Marjal:
>   On Sun, Nov 11, 2012 at 10:24:47AM +0200, David Baron wrote:
> >Every version upgrade of Dovecot causes config problems (running Sid). I
> >hand edited the doveconf -n stuff in after choosing to keep my old .conf
> >and not being able to get the choice again. Got it working, finally.
> 
> If you're using dovecot in sid, you should have noticed that it's
> migrated to the conf.d/* style configuration. Put any modifications YOU
> make into a separate file (say, 99-local.conf) and revert the upstream
> files to as shipped. That way, when you upgrade, the conffiles will get
> upgraded cleanly and your configuration will override the debian
> defaults. The hazard of doing that, though, is that if a configuration
> variable is removed or your config becomes invalid, you won't be told.

Ah, finally.

I use a dir include command already cause I never understood why I should merge 
my changes into that gigantic main configuration file on every update.

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Re: extending LV with JFS online

2012-11-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Freitag, 9. November 2012 schrieb Tomáš Hulata:

> Hello, 

Hi Tomáš,

> I have question related to extending JFS size to new size
> of LV (using LVM), I found that I have to use  
> 
> mount -o remount,resize
> mountpoint 
> 
> and also that there were some problems related to older
> kernels and in these cases exact size should be used like 
> 
> MOUNT -O
> REMOUNT,RESIZE=1048576 MOUNTPOINT

Where did you found that?

The second case should be needed on shrinking a JFS filesystem, you shrink it, 
before you shrink the logical volume and thus it doesn´t know to what size to 
shrink.

But on enlarging it can determine the size of the lv cause you enlerge the lv 
before the fs.

Thats at least what I know and how it worked in my tests. As I do not use JFS 
regularily it was a long time since my last test for one of my Linux trainings, 
but that means that it worked this way quite a lot of kernels ago already.

So I think it should be safe, actually safer than manually giving - a possibly 
wrong size - to let JFS detect the new size of the volume on growing.

> So my question is, if there is some
> outage during this procedure, because this filesystem is exported with
> NFS
> and I need to do it online without any outage. 
> 
> Does anybody have
> some experiences with JFS resizing?

Two ideas:

1) Backup!

2) Try with a test filesystem.

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Re: partitions - primary vs logical and bootability

2012-11-17 Thread Martin Steigerwald
Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012 schrieb Joe:
> On Sat, 10 Nov 2012 16:09:36 -0600
> Charles Blair  wrote:
> 
> >I am trying to set up a dual-boot windows 7 / wheezy.
> > 
> >The installer shows me 3 primary ntfs partitions,
> > presumably for windows7.
> > 
> >I have been able to resize to create freespace.
> > As I understand it, / must be bootable, which seems
> > to mean it must be a primary partition.  However,
> > when I do that, the installer shows the remaining
> > free space as "unusable," and won't let me create
> > logical partitions for swap, /usr, etc.
> > 
> >I'm sure I'm overlooking something basic.  Thanks
> > for your patient help.
> > 
> > 
> 
> As others have said, up to four primary partitions, OR one extended
> partition and up to three primaries.
> 
> The difference between them is that only four slots are allocated for
> partitions in the table: IBM apparently thought that nobody would ever
> need more than four. The 'extended' partition is an entry in the four
> slot table pointing to another disc area where more partition table
> entries can be placed. There's little agreement on how many are
> 'enough' these days, and an OS will often permit more on a SCSI drive
> than an ATA. You can usually bet on at least ten 'logical' partitions
> being available.
> 
> There is no practical difference between primary and logical partition
> usage *except* that Windows (up to and including XP to my knowledge,
> probably later versions also) requires that the first primary partition
> it can recognise (i.e. the partition table says it's FAT or NTFS) must
> be marked with the 'bootable' flag, and must contain a few critical boot
> files. Apart from that, anything can be anywhere, including the Windows
> directory which contains the entire OS apart from the boot files.
> 
> Linux does not make use of the 'bootable' flag, though Linux
> partitioning utilities can set and display it. Linux does not need
> anything to be stored on a primary partition.

Yes. Thats what I thought to be the case as well. I was not completely sure so 
thanks for the confirmation.

So it should be possible to have the last primary partition as extended 
partition going up to the end of the drive, create logical partitions in there 
and have GRUB load Linux from a logical partition.

Personally I would go for:

1) Primary: Windows or recovery or windows data or whatnot
2) Primary: Windows or recovery or windows data or whatnot
3) Primary: Windows or recovery or windows data or whatnot
4) Extended
5) Logical: 200 MB /boot or so
6) Logical: LVM

> Note that the partition table is completely separate from the rest of
> the drive. The first thing you ever do when messing with partitions is
> to write all the numbers down or print it. Then, if you make a complete
> mess of the table, so long as you haven't mounted anything and written
> to it, you can often use a rescue disc to rewrite the partition table
> exactly as it was, and restore things. Just don't bet irreplaceable
> files on that principle, because the one day you are out of luck will
> be that day...

Yeah. Especially with logical partitions as they are more difficult to restore 
with gpart and testdisk.

I suggest using sfdisk to make a backup of the partition table.

I have:

# Partitionierung
echo "Sichere Partitionierung..."
sfdisk -d /dev/sda > /root/sfdisk.dump
parted -l > /root/parted-l.txt

# LVM-Metadaten
echo "Sichere LVM-Metadaten..."
vgcfgbackup

in my rsync based backup script. The files are then backed up via rsync 
afterwards.

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Re: Squeeze on a EEE PC 901, trackpad problems

2012-11-17 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Fri, Nov 16, 2012 at 09:05:04PM -0600, zxcvbob wrote:
> I just installed Debian with the Xfce desktop on a EEE PC model 901.
> I've got things working pretty well, but I can't enable tap-to-click on
> the trackpad.  I go to Settings->Mouse in the Xfce menu, and there is no
> tab or checkbox for tapping.  I'm guessing I need to enable something in X?

For these questions, use search engine with
   "eeepc site:wiki.debian.org" :-)

This leads you to:

 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC
 http://wiki.debian.org/DebianEeePC/TipsAndTricks

> (I just barely know what I'm talking about) I've run Ubuntu Linux
> before, but that was preconfigured.  I have never tried to set
> everything up myself.

For basic debian operations:
 http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/

Good luck.

Osamu


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debmirror failing to download sources (*.orig.*)

2012-11-17 Thread Zenaan Harkness
Gday, here's my debmirror cmd:

/usr/bin/debmirror --source --i18n --exclude='/Translation-.*\.bz2$'
--include/Translation-(en).*\.bz2$' --exclude-deb-section=games
--exclude-deb-section=debug --exclude-deb-section=news --verbose
--progress --arch=amd64,i386
--section=main,main/debian-installer,contrib,non-free
--dist=wheezy,sid --host=ftp.iinet.net.au --method=ftp
--root=debian/debian /public/debian/debian

(above should be a single line)

Here is the output (somewhat abbreviated since I deleted
/public/debian/debian/.temp):
Mirroring to /public/debian/debian from
ftp://anonym...@ftp.iinet.net.au/debian/debian/
Arches: amd64,i386
Dists: wheezy,sid
Sections: main,main/debian-installer,contrib,non-free
Including source.
Pdiff mode: use
Will clean up after mirroring.
Attempting to get lock ...
Updating remote trace files (using rsync) ...
iiNet Rsync Server

- Only have one rsync connection Per IP
- No more then two rsync updates of a package per day

Excessive connections may result in your IP being firewalled for 24 hours.


receiving file list ...
rsync: link_stat "/debian/." (in debian) failed: No such file or directory (2)
0 files to consider

sent 110 bytes  received 17 bytes  19.54 bytes/sec
total size is 0  speedup is 0.00
rsync error: some files/attrs were not transferred (see previous
errors) (code 23) at main.c(1536) [Receiver=3.0.9]
Warning: failed to use rsync to download extra files.
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gpgv: Signature made Sat 17 Nov 2012 07:18:14 EST using RSA key ID 473041FA
gpgv: Good signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key
(6.0/squeeze) "
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gpgv: Signature made Sat 17 Nov 2012 07:18:17 EST using RSA key ID 473041FA
gpgv: Good signature from "Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key
(6.0/squeeze) "
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