[OT?] Free Software petition on WhiteHouse.gov

2012-12-24 Thread Max Hyre
   Dear Debianists:

   The U.S. president's website has a petition to support the use of
Free Software in schools.  It might be a good idea for us USAians to
sign it:

http://wh.gov/Rz6C

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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Mark Allums wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

Claudius, unfortunately it did not:


Has he actually run 


#dpkg --add-architecture i386
#apt-get update

?

He can also add/edit /etc/apt/sources.list to contain the line:

deb [arch=amd64, i386] http://ftp.somemirror.debian.org wheezy main contrib




Done that:

root@SDB03:/etc/apt# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64
root@SDB03:/etc/apt# dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386
root@SDB03:/etc/apt# apt-get update
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates InRelease
Ign http://dl.google.com stable InRelease
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy InRelease
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release.gpg
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main Sources/DiffIndex
Hit http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release
Hit http://dl.google.com stable Release 

Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main amd64 Packages/DiffIndex 


Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main i386 Packages/DiffIndex
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages
Hit http://ftp.de.debian.org wheezy/main Translation-en/DiffIndex
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main amd64 Packages
Hit http://dl.google.com stable/main i386 Packages
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Translation-en
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en_US
Ign http://dl.google.com stable/main Translation-en
Reading package lists... Done

Hugo


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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
John Hasler wrote:
> Lisi Reisz wrote:
> > The OP is trying to lock a large batch of students (I think 3 or 4
> > figures) out for the duration of the vacation.  Two students have to
> > be left with access.  But to lock each of the others out individually
> > would be a big deal, and the OP is looking for a method that would
> > enable him to lock them out as a bunch.  They all belong to the same
> > group, including the two who still have to have access.
> 
> Write a trivial script to use chsh to change every group member's shell
> to nologin and then change the two special ones back by hand or provide
> a skip file.

For example:

  for account in $(cat accounts.list); do
chsh -s /usr/sbin/nologin $account
  done

> A clever script would save each user's current shell to a file so that
> another similar script (or the same script called with different
> options) could read from the file and change it back.

For example:

  for account in $(cat accounts.list); do
getent passwd rwp | awk -F: '{print$1,$NF}'
  done > accounts.shells.list

Then later:

  while read account shell; do
echo chsh -s $shell $account
  done < accounts.shells.list

> You may also want to log out all of the to-be-locked-out users and kill
> all their processes.  "man pkill", "apt-cache show slay".

If you worry about that then you probably want to worry about turning
off any user local crontabs that they might have too.  I would just
save them off from /var/spool/cron/crontabs and restore them later.
Or since they are students the policy might be no persistent crontabs
and simply to remove them.

> A single fairly simple script can do all of this.  It's the sort of
> thing that Unix admins were expected to know how to write.

Yes.  But I tend to do these things on the command line since they are
simply "one-liners".

Bob


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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread John Hasler
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> The OP is trying to lock a large batch of students (I think 3 or 4
> figures) out for the duration of the vacation.  Two students have to
> be left with access.  But to lock each of the others out individually
> would be a big deal, and the OP is looking for a method that would
> enable him to lock them out as a bunch.  They all belong to the same
> group, including the two who still have to have access.

Write a trivial script to use chsh to change every group member's shell
to nologin and then change the two special ones back by hand or provide
a skip file.

A clever script would save each user's current shell to a file so that
another similar script (or the same script called with different
options) could read from the file and change it back.

You may also want to log out all of the to-be-locked-out users and kill
all their processes.  "man pkill", "apt-cache show slay".

A single fairly simple script can do all of this.  It's the sort of
thing that Unix admins were expected to know how to write.
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RE: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Mark Allums
> > Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> > > Claudius, unfortunately it did not:
> 
> Has he actually run
> 
> #dpkg --add-architecture i386
> #apt-get update
> 
> ?
> 
> He can also add/edit /etc/apt/sources.list to contain the line:
> 
> deb [arch=amd64, i386] http://ftp.somemirror.debian.org wheezy main
contrib

Of course replace the mirror example I gave with the exact mirror repository
he needs to use.   But the point is the [arch=,] bit.





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RE: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Mark Allums
> Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> > Claudius, unfortunately it did not:

Has he actually run 

#dpkg --add-architecture i386
#apt-get update

?

He can also add/edit /etc/apt/sources.list to contain the line:

deb [arch=amd64, i386] http://ftp.somemirror.debian.org wheezy main contrib



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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Claudius Hubig wrote:

Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

Claudius, unfortunately it did not:


Hm, no idea what is broken then. For the record, I have these i386
packages installed as direct dependencies of libgtk2.0-0 (plus two
architecture:all packages that definitely shouldn't be the problem
either):

libatk1.0-0:i386 2.4.0-2  
libc6:i386   2.13-37

libcairo2:i386   1.12.2-2
libcomerr2:i386  1.42.5-1
libcups2:i3861.5.3-2.4
libfontconfig1:i386  2.9.0-7.1
libfreetype6:i3862.4.9-1
libgcrypt11:i386 1.5.0-3
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386  2.26.1-1
libglib2.0-0:i3862.33.12+really2.32.4-3
libgnutls26:i386 2.12.20-2
libgssapi-krb5-2:i3861.10.1+dfsg-3
libk5crypto3:i3861.10.1+dfsg-3
libkrb5-3:i386   1.10.1+dfsg-3
libpango1.0-0:i386   1.30.0-1
libx11-6:i3862:1.5.0-1
libxcomposite1:i386  1:0.4.3-2
libxcursor1:i386 1:1.1.13-1
libxdamage1:i386 1:1.1.3-2
libxext6:i3862:1.3.1-2
libxfixes3:i386  1:5.0-4
libxi6:i386  2:1.6.1-1
libxinerama1:i3862:1.1.2-1
libxrandr2:i386  2:1.3.2-2
libxrender1:i386 1:0.9.7-1
zlib1g:i386  1:1.2.7.dfsg-13

But all of these are definitely available in Wheezy, at least
according to rmadison. Do you have any third-party packages installed
which might mess things up?



These are the i386 libs/apps that I have installed. I have been running 
the apps for ages although this is the first time in multiarch mode.


ii  bc1.06.95-2 

ii  flagship  4.48-7453 

ii  gcc-4.7-base:i386 4.7.2-4 

ii  google-earth-stable   7.0.2.8415-r0 

ii  libasound2:i386   1.0.25-4 

ii  libaudio2:i3861.9.3-5 

ii  libc6:i3862.13-37 

ii  libc6-dev:i3862.13-37 

ii  libc6-i3862.13-37 

ii  libc6-i686:i386   2.13-37 

ii  libdatrie1:i386   0.2.5-3 

ii  libdbus-1-3:i386  1.6.8-1 

ii  libexpat1:i3862.1.0-1 

ii  libffi5:i386  3.0.10-3 

ii  libfontconfig1:i386   2.9.0-7 

ii  libfreetype6:i386 2.4.9-1 

ii  libgcc1:i386  1:4.7.2-4 

ii  libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386   2.26.1-1 

ii  libglib2.0-0:i386 2.33.12+really2.32.4-3 

ii  libgpm2:i386  1.20.4-6 

ii  libgstreamer-plugins-base0.10-0:i386  0.10.36-1 

ii  libgstreamer0.10-0:i386   0.10.36-1 

ii  libice6:i386  2:1.0.8-2 

ii  libjasper1:i386   1.900.1-13 

ii  libjbig0:i386 2.0-2 

ii  libjpeg8:i386 8d-1 

ii  liblcms1:i386 1.19.dfsg-1.2 

ii  liblzma5:i386 5.1.1alpha+20120614-2 

ii  libmng1:i386  1.0.10-3 

ii  libncurses5:i386  5.9-10 

ii  liborc-0.4-0:i386 1:0.4.16-2 

ii  libpam0g:i386 1.1.3-7.1 

ii  libpcre3:i386 1:8.30-5 

ii  libpng12-0:i386   1.2.49-1 

ii  libqt4-dbus:i386  4:4.8.2+dfsg-2 

ii  libqt4-network:i386   4:4.8.2+dfsg-2 

ii  libqt4-xml:i386   4:4.8.2+dfsg-2 

ii  libqtcore4:i386   4:4.8.2+dfsg-2 

ii  libqtgui4:i3864:4.8.2+dfsg-2 

ii  libqtwebkit4:i386 2.2.1-5 

ii  libreadline6:i386 6.2-8 

ii  libselinux1:i386  2.1.9-5 

ii  libsm6:i386   2:1.2.1-2 

ii  libsqlite3-0:i386 3.7.13-1 

ii  libssl1.0.0:i386  1.0.1c-4 

ii  libstdc++6:i386   4.7.2-4 

ii  libthai0:i386 0.1.18-2 

ii  libtiff4:i386 3.9.6-10 

ii  libtinfo5:i3865.9-10 

ii  libuuid1:i386 2.20.1-5.2 

ii  libx11-6:i386 2:1.5.0-1 

ii  libxau6:i386  1:1.0.7-1 

ii  libxcb1:i386  1.8.1-2 

ii  libxdmcp6:i3861:1.1.1-1 

ii  libxext6:i386 2:1.3.1-2 

ii  libxml2:i386  2.8.0+dfsg1-7 

ii  libxrender1:i386  1:0.9.7-1 

ii  libxss1:i386  1:1.2.2-1 

ii  libxt6:i386   1:1.1.3-1 

ii  libxv1:i386   2:1.0.7-1 

ii  linux-libc-dev:i386   3.2.32-1 

ii  lsb-core  4.1+Debian8 

ii  skype 4.1.0.20-1 

ii  zlib1g:i386 

Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> Claudius, unfortunately it did not:

Hm, no idea what is broken then. For the record, I have these i386
packages installed as direct dependencies of libgtk2.0-0 (plus two
architecture:all packages that definitely shouldn't be the problem
either):

libatk1.0-0:i386 2.4.0-2  
libc6:i386   2.13-37
libcairo2:i386   1.12.2-2
libcomerr2:i386  1.42.5-1
libcups2:i3861.5.3-2.4
libfontconfig1:i386  2.9.0-7.1
libfreetype6:i3862.4.9-1
libgcrypt11:i386 1.5.0-3
libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386  2.26.1-1
libglib2.0-0:i3862.33.12+really2.32.4-3
libgnutls26:i386 2.12.20-2
libgssapi-krb5-2:i3861.10.1+dfsg-3
libk5crypto3:i3861.10.1+dfsg-3
libkrb5-3:i386   1.10.1+dfsg-3
libpango1.0-0:i386   1.30.0-1
libx11-6:i3862:1.5.0-1
libxcomposite1:i386  1:0.4.3-2
libxcursor1:i386 1:1.1.13-1
libxdamage1:i386 1:1.1.3-2
libxext6:i3862:1.3.1-2
libxfixes3:i386  1:5.0-4
libxi6:i386  2:1.6.1-1
libxinerama1:i3862:1.1.2-1
libxrandr2:i386  2:1.3.2-2
libxrender1:i386 1:0.9.7-1
zlib1g:i386  1:1.2.7.dfsg-13

But all of these are definitely available in Wheezy, at least
according to rmadison. Do you have any third-party packages installed
which might mess things up?

Best,

Claudius


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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread Rob Owens
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:23:09PM +, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 24 December 2012 20:46:31 David Guntner wrote:
> > I think I missed part of this thread  Look at what one by one?
> 
> The OP is trying to lock a large batch of students (I think 3 or 4 figures) 
> out for the duration of the vacation.  Two students have to be left with 
> access.  But to lock each of the others out individually would be a big deal, 
> and the OP is looking for a method that would enable him to lock them out as 
> a bunch.  They all belong to the same group, including the two who still have 
> to have access.
> 
This is probably a bad idea for a variety of reasons, but I'll mention
it as food for thought.  Assuming all users use /bin/bash as their
shell:

cp /bin/bash /bin/bash.real
mv /bin/bash /bin/bash.bak

Then change the shell for the handful of valid users to /bin/bash.real

My immediate concern would be that scripts and cronjobs might not run
properly with no /bin/bash available.

-Rob


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ocfs2+drbd two-primary

2012-12-24 Thread Atıf CEYLAN
Hi all,
I have Apache and Postfix+Dovecot are running on two debian servers. I
want to use drbd+ocfs2 (or redhat gfs). 
I tried some configurations and fault scenarios on VM  but I have data
loss. Would you like suggest me best practice about drbd+cluster
filesystem with two-primary mode?  

regards,
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Xen with routing an bridging

2012-12-24 Thread Thore

Hello, merry christmas at all,
after setting aup my laptop on wheezy now I got back to the 
konfiguration of my server.

I have running there 3 dom0 with bridged IPv4.
I have an subnet for IPv6 with a lot of adresses and i want to use them 
(my home system has tunneled IPv6)
An IPv4 subnet is too expensive at the hoster and IPv6 will be 
availiable for everyone soon.
So I want to set up two more systems with IPv6 and give every system an 
own IPv6 address.  (the domU hasn't konfigured it yet)

My question is, how can I set it up?
 Something like this (from hetzner)

# Loopback-Adapter
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback
#
# LAN-Schnittstelle
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
  # Haupt-IP-Adresse des Servers
  address 192.168.0.250
  # Netzmaske 255.255.255.255 (/32) unabhängig von der
  # realen Netzaufteilung (z.B. /27)
  netmask 255.255.255.255
  # Explizite Hostroute zum Gateway
  gateway 192.168.0.1
  pointopoint 192.168.0.1
#
iface eth0 inet6 static
  # Haupt-IPv6-Adresse des Servers
  address 2a01:4f8:61:20e1::2
  netmask 64
  gateway fe80::1

I have only an eth0 and a xenbr0

somehow I must add the /64 subnet and tell xend that I use routing too.
I don't know can I use the xenbr0 or have I to create a xenbr1 and configure an 
eth1 in the dom0s

And how can I than use systems only with IPv6.
I had to ask my questions earlyer, now I had forgotten a lot.
Hope you can understand and help me
Sorry for my english

Thore

P.S: The Adresses are all only examples from the hetzner wiki



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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Claudius Hubig wrote:

Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
  libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libatk1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.12.4) but it is not 
going to be installed

[...]

It is likely that some of these are only available in Sid and your
package manager doesn’t consider it at the moment (due to
APT::Default-Release or pinning), or it also doesn’t consider Wheezy
for some reason. Simply giving all the relevant names, i.e.

# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 libatk1.0-0:i386 ...

should solve that problem.



Claudius, unfortunately it did not:

Script started on Mon 24 Dec 2012 05:21:06 PM CST
root@SDB03:/# do_install
+ apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 libatk1.0-0:i386 libcairo2:i386 
libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libgcrypt11:i386 libgnutls26:i386 
libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libk5crypto3:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 
libpango1.0-0:i386 libxcomposite1:i386 libxcursor1:i386 libxdamage1:i386 
libxfixes3:i386 libxi6:i386 libxinerama1:i386 libxrandr2:i386
The following packages were automatically installed and are no longer 
required:
  bluez comerr-dev crda dnsmasq-base gir1.2-atk-1.0 gir1.2-freedesktop 
gir1.2-gdkpixbuf-2.0 gir1.2-pango-1.0
  gnome-accessibility-themes gnome-themes-standard-data iw 
krb5-multidev libaacplus2 libaudio-dev libavcodec54 libblas3gf
  libcompizconfig0 libelf1 libexpat1-dev libfaac0 libfontconfig1-dev 
libfreetype6-dev libgcrypt11-dev libgnutls-dev
  libgnutls-openssl27 libgnutlsxx27 libgpg-error-dev libgssrpc4 
libice-dev libjim0debian2 libjpeg8-dev libkadm5clnt-mit8
  libkadm5srv-mit8 libkdb5-6 libkrb5-dev liblapack3gf liblcms1-dev 
liblightdm-gobject-1-0 libmng-dev libnetfilter-conntrack3
  libnl-genl-3-200 libnm-glib-vpn1 libnm-glib4 libnm-gtk-common 
libnm-util2 libp11-kit-dev libpng12-dev libqt3-compat-headers
  libqt3-headers libqt3-mt librpm3 librpmbuild3 librpmio3 librpmsign1 
libsm-dev libtasn1-3-dev libx264-129 libxcursor-dev
  libxfixes-dev libxft-dev libxi-dev libxinerama-dev libxklavier16 
libxmmsclient-glib1 libxmmsclient6 libxmu-dev
  libxmu-headers libxrandr-dev libxrender-dev libxt-dev metacity-common 
mobile-broadband-provider-info modemmanager
  network-manager obexd-client p7zip-full pkg-config python-cairo 
python-compizconfig python-numpy python-support
  qt3-dev-tools rpm rpm-common rpm2cpio tex-gyre 
texlive-fonts-recommended-doc texlive-latex-base-doc
  texlive-latex-recommended-doc texlive-pstricks-doc ttf-marvosym 
usb-modeswitch usb-modeswitch-data wireless-regdb
  wpasupplicant x11proto-fixes-dev x11proto-randr-dev 
x11proto-render-dev x11proto-xinerama-dev xmms2-core xmms2-plugin-alsa

  xmms2-plugin-id3v2 xmms2-plugin-mad xmms2-plugin-vorbis zlib1g-dev
Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
The following extra packages will be installed:
  libaacplus2 libavahi-client3:i386 libavahi-common-data:i386 
libavahi-common3:i386 libavcodec54 libfaac0 libgpg-error0:i386
  libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5support0:i386 libmp3lame0 libp11-kit0:i386 
libpixman-1-0:i386 libtasn1-3:i386 libx264-129

  libxcb-render0:i386 libxcb-shm0:i386 libxft2:i386
Suggested packages:
  rng-tools:i386 krb5-doc:i386 krb5-user:i386 librsvg2-common:i386 
gvfs:i386 ttf-baekmuk:i386 ttf-arphic-gbsn00lp:i386
  ttf-arphic-bsmi00lp:i386 ttf-arphic-gkai00mp:i386 
ttf-arphic-bkai00mp:i386

Recommended packages:
  hicolor-icon-theme:i386
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  compiz compiz-gtk compizconfig-settings-manager galculator gcr 
ghostscript gir1.2-gnomebluetooth-1.0 gir1.2-gtk-3.0 gksu
  gnome-bluetooth gnome-icon-theme gnome-keyring gnome-themes-standard 
google-chrome-beta gpicview gtk2-engines hyperlatex
  latex-beamer latex-xcolor leafpad libcanberra-gtk-module 
libcanberra-gtk0 libcanberra-gtk3-0 libcanberra-gtk3-module
  libcups2 libcups2-dev libcupsimage2 libfm-gtk-bin libfm-gtk1 
libgail18 libgcr-3-1 libgksu2-0 libglade2-0
  libgnome-bluetooth10 libgs9 libgtk-3-0 libgtk-3-bin libgtk2.0-0 
libgtk2.0-bin libmetacity-private0a libnm-gtk0 libqt3-mt-dev
  libvte9 libwebkitgtk-1.0-0 libwnck22 lightdm lightdm-gtk-greeter 
lxappearance lxde lxde-common lxde-core lxinput lxlauncher
  lxmusic lxpanel lxpolkit lxrandr lxsession lxsession-edit lxshortcut 
lxtask lxterminal network-manager-gnome
  notification-daemon obconf pcmanfm pgf policykit-1-gnome prosper 
ps2eps python-gtk2 texlive texlive-base texlive-binaries
  texlive-extra-utils texlive-font-utils texlive-fonts-recommended 
texlive-generic-recommended texlive-latex-base
  texlive-latex-recommended texlive-luatex texlive-pstricks thunderbird 
tipa vlc-plugin-notify xarchiver xscreensaver

The following NEW packages will be installed:
  libaacplus2 libatk1.0-0:i386 libavahi-client3:i386 
libavahi-common-data:i386 libavahi-common3:i386 libavcodec54
  libcairo2:i386 libcomerr2:i386 libcups2:i386 libfaac0 
libgcrypt11:i386 libgnutls26:i386 libgpg-error0:i386
  libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 libgtk2.0-0:i386 libk5crypto3:i386 
libkeyutils1:i386 libkrb5-3:i386 libkrb5support0:i386
  libp11-kit0:i386 libpango1.0-0:i386 libpixman-1-0:i386 
libtasn1-3:i386 libx264-1

Re: Idle TCP connections freeze

2012-12-24 Thread Nikolaus Rath
Bob Proulx  writes:
> Nikolaus Rath wrote:
>> Pascal Hambourg writes:
>> > Nikolaus Rath a écrit :
>> > It appears that the client has a private addresse and the server has a
>> > public address. So I guess that there is a NAT device between them, and
>> > its stateful NAT engine may be the cause of the problem, by deleting
>> > connections from its translation table after a delay of inactivity.
>
> I have seen (and discarded) cheap consumer router boxes that had just
> that problem.  
>
>> Yes, just tried it. The server does not receive anything at all when the
>> client starts retransmitting. I guess that is consistent with the NAT
>> explanation?
>
> I think it is very plausible.


And right you were. Replacing the Cisco DPC3825 with a NetGear CMD31T +
WGR614v9 solved the problem.


Thanks!

   -Nikolaus

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Re: Laptop left in unusable state

2012-12-24 Thread Doug

On 12/24/2012 09:04 AM, Agbefia wrote:


To whom it may concern:
I have a Dell laptop Studio that runs on Win7 operating system.i tried 
to install Debian but something went wrong and my laptop cannot boot 
and it seems all my data on the hard drive were erased and I cannot 
access the laptop.Is there anyway I can reload any operating system on 
the laptop to make it useful again?

Thank you for your help
Sincerely

Komla


  “The work goes on, the cause endures, the hope still lives, and the
  dream shall never die.”
  
Ted
  Kennedy


I would do a couple of things.  I'd load live disk GParted, just to find 
out what the partition scheme is, but DO NOT CHANGE IT!
The GParted disk might have fsck on it, and if so, I'd run fsck on each 
partition (/dev/sda, /dev/sdb, etc.)  If GParted disk doesn't

have it, load almost any live Linux disk and run it from there.

Then I'd try and boot the laptop and see what happens.

It that doesn't work, there is some kind of recovery setup on the 
Windows7 install disk.  You'll have to get instructions somewhere

as to how to use it--Google's your friend.

What you're likely to find out along the way is that the hard drive on 
the laptop has 4 primary partitions, all taken up by Windows.
When you get Windows working again, compact them down to no more than 3 
and make an extended partition.  In this
extended partition, you will make logical partitions for your Linux 
system.  Probably three: /, /home/ and swap. The Linux install

routine will set up those logical partitions.

Good luck.

--doug


Re: unexpected script output

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> Bob Proulx a écrit:
> >berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > > The immediate problem to change the symlink to bash instead of dash
> > > is that it will slow down his system boot sequence, ...
> >
> > I sometimes hear this but I disagree that boot speed causes this to
> > be an immediate problem.  Even on laptops the system is very
> > stable.  How often do people reboot?  I do so only very seldom.
> > Definitely for kernel security upgrades and so do reboot a handful
> > of times a year.  My view is, "So it might take another few seconds
> > ever other month."
> 
> That's your use.
> My uses are plenty of shutdown. For my eeepc, it is possible that I
> shut it down from 1 to 4 times per day, and for my desktop, it
> entirely depends on what I am doing.

Wow.  1-4 times a day?  This really surprises me.  Especially for an
EEE PC netbook.  Those generally suspend to ram and resume from ram
very fast.  And they live suspended for days and days.  Even a
hibernate to disk and resume from disk is quite fast.

Why is it necessary to reboot?  I would like to understand this use
case better.

> And that is because they are not old computers. I have a dinosaur
> which takes ages, hibernate or not, and seeing how the hardware is
> old, I prefer the regular checks made on disk by boot process.
> I do not need computer as fast as light, but I'm pleased hen things
> does not takes ages while keeping some security checks.

I am still using a Pentium 133MHz machine with 112M ram and a 1G hard
drive.  It has the best power envelope for the task it is doing.  I
reboot it every time a new linux kernel security upgrade is installed.
It is a pretty slow machine and takes a minute or two to reboot.  I
feel the reboot speed every time I reboot it.  But that only happens
every other month or so when Linux upgrades are released.

> That's because I kept the use of shutdown instead of hibernate,
> except if I have something I want to keep alive from a session to
> another.
> But, of course, if boot speed is not an issue for you, you are free
> to make it slower :)

I will say that turnabout this-for-that applies here.  :-) It is your
choice to shutdown your eee pc completely.  Instead you could suspend
it and have fast resume performance.  It is your choice to use a full
shutdown and have slow performance. :-)

> Every user have his own requirement for a computer, especially for
> people using a linux distribution I think.

I definitely believe that there is never one size fits all.  I try to
support people doing a variety of things that I would never personally
do.  But that does not mean that simply because someone can do
something that it is a good thing to do it.

But let's not get too from from the topic point under discussion.  The
point I was refuting was this one:

> > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote:
> > > The immediate problem to change the symlink to bash instead of dash
> > > is that it will slow down his system boot sequence, ...

I strongly believe that it is not an "immediate problem".  Classifying
it as a problem is much too strong.  That is where I objected.  Yes
there is a measurable difference in boot speed.  But it isn't more
than a few seconds.  (I would love it if someone would remind us of
the boot timings with a reference to benchmark data.)

But I disagree that changing a symlink from dash to bash causes an
"immediate problem".  Nor even a minor problem.  It is the way Debian
systems were released and shipped for years and years.  The change is
an improvement.  But the reversion of that change is not a bug.

The biggest improvement in my mind is not even the performance
difference.  It is the portability gained.  By writing scripts
suitable for POSIX /bin/sh those scripts are much more likely to run
unchanged on every system and not just the one it is written on.
Having worked on many systems over many years I value clean
portability more than performance.

Bob


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Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote:
> It seems to have been lost in the shuffle, but do NOT have internet
> NOR high speed internet connectivity at home so all of my test
> installs are being done with a purchased set of Debian 6.0.5 DVDs
> with preseed.cfg on a USB stick.

Sorry.  In order to be able to help you with suggestions we needed to
learn more about the process ourselves.  Only by understanding it
further could we then make a reasonable suggestion to you.  And that
learning caused a lot of discussion in this thread that as far as you
were concerned wasn't directly appropriate to you.  It was but only as
a way to build a foundation for help you.  And because we also have an
itch to scratch it helps us too.

I suggest one of two different options.

Option 1. Copy the contents of your booting DVD to a USB stick.  If
your BIOS will boot from usb then this provides a convenient way to
customize it.  After copying the DVD to the usb stick then copy in the
preseed.cfg file.  At that point it will boot from the usb stick and
automatically locate the preseed.cfg file.

  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en#usb-copy-isohybrid

  Debian CD and DVD images can now be written directly a USB stick,
  which is a very easy way to make a bootable USB stick.  Simply
  choose a CD or DVD image that will fit on your USB stick.

  The CD or DVD image you choose should be written directly to the USB
  stick, overwriting its current contents.  For example, when using an
  existing GNU/Linux system, the CD or DVD image file can be written to
  a USB stick as follows:

  # cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX
  # sync

I haven't worked through this above myself so there is almost
certainly something I haven't written down about it that you will need
to know.  But that is one option.

Option 2. Do you have a second machine in your house?  An old laptop?
And old system?  Even a non-debian system?  I would host a web server
on that other system.  Then with it on a local network (not the
Internet but a local private network) then you could use a url path to
it for the preseed file.  The preseed file is tiny.  The other machine
could be anything and it would be sufficient to host the small file.

> I use the "Automated install" option under "Advanced options" of the
> installer. Pressing  shows "auto=true" and "priority=critical"
> in the command line. I then append "file=/mnt/preseed.cfg". Of
> course it comes to a crashing halt saying the configuration file
> could not be found. Switching screens with ALT-F2 allows mounting
> the USB stick.  I think there should be a "better way". But I was
> told on this forum "that's how it's done".

It does seem like there should be a better way to do this completely
standalone.  Such as having the installer offer to mount the device
first before using it.  Or something.  I need to try the exact method
you are using so that I can become familiar with it.  It does seem
like there is room for improvement.

Bob


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Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote:
>auto url=file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg
> loaded by expanding file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg.
>auto=true url=file://mnt/,/preseed.cfg

I think there is a typo in the above.  To perhaps save some grief for
someone reading the archives later I believe all of the above "/,/"
uses should have said "/./".  That comma slipped in where it should be
a dot.  And so readers don't need to search for it:

  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs02.html.en

  The /./ bit is used to indicate a root, relative to which subsequent
  paths can be anchored (for use in preseed/include and
  preseed/run).  This allows files to be specified either as full URLs,
  paths starting with / that are thus anchored, or even paths relative
  to the location where the last preseed file was found.  This can be
  used to construct more portable scripts where an entire hierarchy of
  scripts can be moved to a new location without breaking it, for
  example copying the files onto a USB stick when they started out on
  a web server.

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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 24 December 2012 20:46:31 David Guntner wrote:
> I think I missed part of this thread  Look at what one by one?

The OP is trying to lock a large batch of students (I think 3 or 4 figures) 
out for the duration of the vacation.  Two students have to be left with 
access.  But to lock each of the others out individually would be a big deal, 
and the OP is looking for a method that would enable him to lock them out as 
a bunch.  They all belong to the same group, including the two who still have 
to have access.

HTH
Lisi


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Re: Preseeding - keyboard-configuration issue

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Brian wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Press Down-Arrow to "Help".  Observe the help message, "Display help
> > screens; type 'menu' at the boot prompt to return to this menu."
> > Press ENTER to select it.  Press F3 to select "Boot methods for
> > special ways of using this netboot image".  Observe that at the bottom
> > of the screen is "Press F2 through F10 for details, or ENTER to boot:
> > _" and it is sitting at a command line.  You can type in a full
> > command line manually.  The help hint says that two
> > boot methods are available:
> > 
> >   install
> > Start the installation -- this is the default netboot image install.
> >   expert
> > Start the installation in expert mode, for maximum control.
> > 
> > So ENTER will default to "install".  Typing in "expert" will default
> > to the expert install.  Probably set up as an alias expansion
> > internally.
> 
> You were very, very close to a solution when you wrote this. "auto" is a
> boot method like "install" and "expert". All three are labels in the
> syslinux configuration of Squeeze and Wheezy for booting a kernel and
> appending parameters.

Aha!  That explains that very nicely!  All of the pieces fall into place.

> install, expert and auto need to be given at a *boot prompt*. On
> Squeeze and Wheezy pressing TAB gives the kernel command line, not a
> boot prompt. Entering the Help menu does get you a boot prompt.

Yes!  That makes perfect sense now.  And given how much we have dug
through the manual I really sympathize with people less familiar with
it and trying to make sense of it.

> The auto mode documentation goes back to the time of Etch. The splash
> screen at the time displayed only a boot prompt.

I am very often reminded that knowing the history of things arrived
and evolved to the present condition makes understanding it a lot
easier.  Thank you very much for throwing in this very last tidbit.

Bob


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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Claudius Hubig wrote:

Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

Claudius Hubig wrote:

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386

  ^i386
# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386

I did that and I got:


No you did not. You wrote ":386" rather than ":i386", as pointed out
above.



RIGHT! But how does one get the libraries installed? Now I got:

==
Script started on Mon 24 Dec 2012 04:10:41 PM CST
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb
Selecting previously unselected package adobereader-enu.
(Reading database ... 90%
(Reading database ... 125887 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking adobereader-enu (from AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of adobereader-enu:
 adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4).

dpkg: error processing adobereader-enu (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 adobereader-enu
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 libgtk2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libatk1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.12.4) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: libcairo2:i386 (>= 1.6.4-6.1) but it is 
not going to be installed
Depends: libcomerr2:i386 (>= 1.01) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: libcups2:i386 (>= 1.4.0) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: libgcrypt11:i386 (>= 1.4.5) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: libgnutls26:i386 (>= 2.12.17-0) but it is 
not going to be installed
Depends: libgssapi-krb5-2:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but 
it is not going to be installed
Depends: libk5crypto3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it 
is not going to be installed
Depends: libkrb5-3:i386 (>= 1.6.dfsg.2) but it is 
not going to be installed
Depends: libpango1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.28.3) but it is 
not going to be installed
Depends: libxcomposite1:i386 (>= 1:0.3-1) but it is 
not going to be installed
Depends: libxcursor1:i386 (> 1.1.2) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: libxdamage1:i386 (>= 1:1.1) but it is not 
going to be installed
Depends: libxfixes3:i386 but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: libxi6:i386 but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: libxinerama1:i386 but it is not going to 
be installed
Depends: libxrandr2:i386 (>= 2:1.2.99.3) but it is 
not going to be installed
Recommends: hicolor-icon-theme:i386 but it is not 
installable
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or 
specify a solution).

root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get -f install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following packages will be REMOVED:
  adobereader-enu:i386
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 57 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
After this operation, 185 MB disk space will be freed.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? n
Abort.
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# exit


Hugo


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Re: ssh fails - SOLVED (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> If anyone have suggestion to improve debian-reference to prevent
> people to take such strategy, let me know.  Also, concrete case
> example of why such method is less safer than 'apt-get upgrade' or
> 'aptitude safe-upgrade', let us know.

I think this case is one example.  By selectively upgrading only the
ssh program binary and not the dependent libraries the openssl libssl
library was allowed to become stale.  It was almost certainly behind
on security upgrades as I remember there have been DSAs filed against
it relatively recently.  It was almost certainly vulnerable to
DSA-2392-1, DSA-2454-2, or DSA-2475-1 for example.

Bob


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Re: ssh fails - SOLVED (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Joel Roth wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Joel Roth wrote:
> > > I'm just so used to the dependencies being taken
> > > care of by APT, that I was surprised to have to
> > > lift my little pinkie.
> > 
> > Uhm... An 'apt-get upgrade' should have offered those for upgrade.
> > They do for me.  They didn't for you?  Perhaps you have pinning or
> > other preventatives in place?  Please say more!
> 
> Ah, I didn't even think to try an apt-get upgrade. 

!!??  Shock!  Surprise!  It is the *first* thing I think of to try to
fix something.

> I usually just upgrade apps individually as I need to...

As in 'apt-get install openssh-client' ?  But that won't upgrade any
of the dependencies.

> an attitude based on (possibly) outdated fears of
> getting stuck in between upgrades of C libraries
> or other large-scale brokenness.

As others commented (but I wanted to directly address this) you
shouldn't have this worry like this.  And actually not getting
upgrades in a timely manor is a worse problem.

On Sid/Unstable I upgrade daily with:

  # apt-get update
  # apt-get upgrade
  # apt-get dist-upgrade

The first sync's the Packages files, the index of what is current.
Then the 'upgrade' is a very restricted upgrade that only upgrades
packages in place.  It cannot pull in any new packages such as when a
package is split or when a package gains new dependencies.  But most
important it cannot remove packages.

Then 'dist-upgrade' and I look at the screen for dist-upgrade very
carefully.  I cannot stress this enough.  Look at that very carefully.
Most important is to check to see if any packages are going to be
removed.  If a bind9 update wants to install new liblwres80 that is
okay.  But if a netcf upgrade wants to remove kvm (Bug#694362 for
example) then do not do it!

Examine the problem and apply "hold" to dpkg as needed to whatever
packages are appropriate 'apt-mark hold pkg' is a convenient frontend
to 'echo pkg hold | dpkg --set-selections'.  After holding try the
dist-upgrade again.  Repeat as needed until the result is
satisfactory.  If this is needed then file a bug report.

I do this every day.  Because the changes from one day to the next day
are small enough that I can work through them and recognize them as
they occur.  If I were to wait six months then the amount of thrash in
Sid/Unstable would make recognizing and reducing these problems much
more difficult.

Also a Sid/Unstable upgrade that was from a year ago to today may need
special handling that was already taken care of in other ways.  In a
day to day transition everything will be current and rolling.  But
after a long time people forget and the upgrade may be broken in ways
that don't matter to anyone else and therefore will never get fixed.
Remember that only major release points such as Squeeze and Wheezy are
extensively tested across long times and large changes.  Major
releases will work, within the documented procedures from the upgrade
notes.  But what amounts to a similar major upgrade between Sid-2011
and Sid-2012 won't be tested at all.  You are on your own.

> an attitude based on (possibly) outdated fears of
> getting stuck in between upgrades of C libraries
> or other large-scale brokenness.

In summary if running Sid/Unstable or Testing too then I think it is
best to keep current and not let the parts get too old and stale.  It
is just easier that way.  "In for a penny, in for a pound."

> Thanks for your comment. This list/community is a great support.

It seriously is one of the best things!

Bob


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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> Claudius Hubig wrote:
> > Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
> >> root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386
> >   ^i386
> > # apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386
> I did that and I got:

No you did not. You wrote ":386" rather than ":i386", as pointed out
above.

Best,

Claudius


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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Lars Noodén wrote:
> Eero Volotinen wrote:
> > Lars Noodén wrote:
> >> Another way would be to try 'passwd -l' to lock the accounts and then
> >> later use 'passwd -u' to unlock them.
> > 
> > Does it also work for ssh public keys also? I think recommended way is
> > to use chage: http://linux.die.net/man/1/chage
> 
> Good point.  'passwd -l' does not seem to work against keys it does work
> against regular log in.

Also use 'passwd -e' as in 'passwd -el someuser' that way it will be
both locked and expired and will block ssh.

  # passwd -el someuser

Example:

  $ ssh example id
  WARNING: Your password has expired.
  Password change required but no TTY available.

Of course trying to log in as the user interactively will trigger the
same password change as if it were only expired.

  $ ssh example
  WARNING: Your password has expired.
  You must change your password now and login again!
  Changing password for someuser.
  (current) UNIX password: ANY.PASS.WORD
  passwd: Authentication failure
  passwd: password unchanged
  Connection to example closed.

However because the password is also locked it is then impossible for
the user to match the previous password and they will not be able to
unlock it.

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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Jerome BENOIT wrote:

Hi,

have you tried the acroread debian ball at www.deb-multimedia.org ?



I just did. And I got:


Script started on Mon 24 Dec 2012 03:23:05 PM CST
root@SDB03:/# apt-get install acroread
Reading package lists... Done^M
Reading state information... Done^M
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 acroread:i386 : Depends: libatk1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.12.4) but it is not 
going to be installed
 Depends: libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 but it is not going to 
be installed or

  libgl1:i386
 Depends: libglu1-mesa:i386 but it is not going to be 
installed or

  libglu1:i386
 Depends: libgtk2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.24.0) but it is not 
going to be installed
 Depends: libidn11:i386 (>= 1.13) but it is not going 
to be installed
 Depends: libpango1.0-0:i386 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not 
going to be installed

 Depends: acroread-l10n-en:i386
 Depends: acroread-debian-files:i386 (>= 9.4.6) but it 
is not going to be installed

 Depends: acroread-data:i386 (= 9.5.1-dmo7)
 Recommends: cups-bsd:i386
 adobereader-enu:i386 : Depends: libgtk2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.4) but it is 
not going to be installed
 libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 : Depends: libjasper1:i386 but it is not going 
to be installed
E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or 
specify a solution).

root@SDB03:/# apt-get -f install
Building dependency tree   ^M
Correcting dependencies... Done
The following extra packages will be installed:Reading database ... 
126270 files and directories currently installed.)

Removing adobereader-enu ...
dpkg: warning: while removing adobereader-enu, directory 
'/opt/Adobe/Reader9/bin' not empty so not removed

Processing triggers for man-db ...
Selecting previously unselected package libjasper1:i386.
Reading database ... 125885 files and directories currently installed.)
Unpacking libjasper1:i386 (from .../libjasper1_1.900.1-13_i386.deb) ...
Setting up libjasper1:i386 (1.900.1-13) ...
Setting up libgdk-pixbuf2.0-0:i386 (2.26.1-1) ...
root@SDB03:/# apt-get install acroread
Reading package lists... Done^M
Building dependency tree   ^M
Reading state information... Done^M
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 acroread:i386 : Depends: libgtk2.0-0:i386 (>= 2.24.0) but it is not 
going to be installed

 Recommends: cups-bsd:i386
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
root@SDB03:/# exit
exit

Script done on Mon 24 Dec 2012 03:25:03 PM CST
===

Hugo


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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Claudius Hubig wrote:

Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:

  adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4).



root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386

   ^i386

You want either

# apt-get install -f

or

# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386



I did that and I got:

root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package libgtk2.0-0
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk2.0-0'

Hugo


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Re: ASUS F1A75-M LE Motherboard Radeon HD 9644 Graphics

2012-12-24 Thread Bob Proulx
Bob Proulx wrote:
> Apparently more non-free blobs were moved to the nonfree firmware
> bundle.  In Sid (will try it in Wheezy later) installing the
> firmware-linux-nonfree package resolved the problem.  The vt console
> is usable and the X display is usable.

I am going to reference the Debian wiki page so as to promote its page
rank in the search engines for this problem.  It would have saved me
some time in concluding on this problem.

  http://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo

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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Claudius Hubig
Hello Hugo,

Hugo Vanwoerkom  wrote:
>   adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4).

> root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386
   ^i386

You want either

# apt-get install -f

or

# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386

Best,

Claudius


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Re: adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Jerome BENOIT

Hi,

have you tried the acroread debian ball at www.deb-multimedia.org ?

hth,
Jerome

On 24/12/12 21:44, Hugo Vanwoerkom wrote:

Hi,

I am trying to install adobe reader with multiarch. Has anybody done that?
This is as far as I got:

===
Script started on Mon 24 Dec 2012 02:28:50 PM CST
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb
Preparing to replace adobereader-enu 9.5.1 (using 
AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement adobereader-enu ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of adobereader-enu:
adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4).

dpkg: error processing adobereader-enu (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
adobereader-enu
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
+++-==-==-==-=
ii libgtk2.0-0:amd64 2.24.10-2 amd64 GTK+ graphical user interface library
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package libgtk2.0-0
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk2.0-0'
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# exit
exit

Script done on Mon 24 Dec 2012 02:32:27 PM CST
===

Hugo





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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread David Guntner
Tom H grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Beco  wrote:
>> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Lars Noodén  wrote:
>>
>> I don't want to look one by one. There should be a way to process them in 
>> batch.

I think I missed part of this thread  Look at what one by one?

>> I find David's idea of editing passwd dangerous and annoying. It would
>> be ok to change a single user, but even then I would choose this way
>> with caution.

It's annoying when you have a user who did something that requires you
to lock them out of their account, I'll agree.  Beyond that, there's
nothing more dangerous with editing /etc/passwd than anything else you
do as root.  Exorcise care and there should be no problems.  (Again, it
seems clear to me now that I've missed something somewhere - what
exactly are you trying to do?  What's the criteria by which you want to
disable (but not delete) multiple accounts?)

Of course, I'm a LONG-time UNIX user/admin, and back in the day, setting
the login shell that way was pretty much the way to do it.  As someone
else here pointed out, doing a "passwd -l" doesn't actually *disable*
the account and allows someone who's using a key instead of a password
to get in.  Setting their login shell to /bin/false (and later, with the
addition of /usr/sbin/nologin on Linux system to give the user a message
before hanging up) does that nicely - they're not getting in with a key,
either.  I can't recall, however, if that would keep them from
connecting via (S)FTP (since there's no actual login shell being
invoked).  Probably need to test that

> You don't have to edit "/etc/passwd" to change shells to nologin. You
> can use "chsh" as long as nologin is a recognized shell.

Sure, that works, too - however, you'll have to edit /etc/shells to
include /bin/false and/or /usr/sbin/nologin, 'cause those aren't "valid"
login shells by default.

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adobe reader + multiarch

2012-12-24 Thread Hugo Vanwoerkom

Hi,

I am trying to install adobe reader with multiarch. Has anybody done that?
This is as far as I got:

===
Script started on Mon 24 Dec 2012 02:28:50 PM CST
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg --print-architecture
amd64
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg --print-foreign-architectures
i386
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -i AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb
Preparing to replace adobereader-enu 9.5.1 (using 
AdbeRdr9.5.1-1_i386linux_enu.deb) ...

Unpacking replacement adobereader-enu ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of adobereader-enu:
 adobereader-enu depends on libgtk2.0-0 (>= 2.4).

dpkg: error processing adobereader-enu (--install):
 dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Processing triggers for man-db ...
Errors were encountered while processing:
 adobereader-enu
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# dpkg -l libgtk2.0-0
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| 
Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend

|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name   VersionArchitecture 
Description

+++-==-==-==-=
ii  libgtk2.0-0:amd64  2.24.10-2  amd64 
GTK+ graphical user interface library

root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:386
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
E: Unable to locate package libgtk2.0-0
E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'libgtk2.0-0'
root@SDB03:/home/hugo/Downloads# exit
exit

Script done on Mon 24 Dec 2012 02:32:27 PM CST
===

Hugo


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Re: Freeze accounts

2012-12-24 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:01 AM, Beco  wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 11:29 AM, Lars Noodén  wrote:
>
> I don't want to look one by one. There should be a way to process them in 
> batch.
>
> I find David's idea of editing passwd dangerous and annoying. It would
> be ok to change a single user, but even then I would choose this way
> with caution.

You don't have to edit "/etc/passwd" to change shells to nologin. You
can use "chsh" as long as nologin is a recognized shell.


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Re: management tools?

2012-12-24 Thread Brad Alexander
Well, one thing I use is puppet to do configuration management. It's a
learning curve, but you can ensure essential packages are installed,
services are running and properly configured, and so forth.

Something I have been wanting to try, but haven't had time to mess
with is Foreman. That bridges the gap between bare metal/blank VM and
the point when you can hand the host off to puppet.

On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:17 AM, Miles Fidelman
 wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I'm getting ready to rebuild a small cluster (4 nodes, xen virtualization)
> that I'm using to support a combination of hosted services (mostly email
> lists, a few web sites) and some experimentation.
>
> To date, I've installed stuff manually, relied on a high-availability stack
> (drbd, crm) to provide failover when things go south, and some
> logwatch/alert scripts for monitoring everything.  This time around, I'm
> thinking about automating some of the install, configuration management, and
> monitoring work.
>
> Which leads me to wonder: Those of you who run server farms on Debian, what
> are you using for:
> - initial o/s install and configuration (e.g., FAI, other things?)
> - software install/update/configuration (chef, puppet, ?)
> - virtual machine management
> - user management (control panels, ...)
> - overall management (nagios, webmin, ...)
>
> I'm sort of trying to get sense of what people actually use, and in what
> combinations, rather than what's got the buzz this week.
>
> Thanks for anything you might share.
>
> Miles Fidelman
>
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Re: Laptop left in unusable state

2012-12-24 Thread Paul Johnson
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 8:04 AM, Agbefia  wrote:

>
> To whom it may concern:
> I have a Dell laptop Studio that runs on Win7 operating system.i tried to
> install Debian but something went wrong and my laptop cannot boot and it
> seems all my data on the hard drive were erased and I cannot access the
> laptop.Is there anyway I can reload any operating system on the laptop to
> make it useful again?
>

Before doing anything else, try to boot from a thumb
drive.
 Use F12 on the POST screen to load the BIOS boot menu.  Depending on how
recent the BIOS is, you may need to switch from UEFI booting to Legacy
booting in the BIOS, which can be accessed using the F2 key during the POST
screen.  You can rescue any files you might find on the hard drive before
attempting installation again.


Re: Installing Debian

2012-12-24 Thread piratenshuttle
in windows 7 its simply detected. so sad.

moving from citrix xen now to virtualbox on windows 7.

no raid not funny honey bunnies. (FUCK LSI! can someone please get the CEO
to answer?)


 
 



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Re: Installing Debian

2012-12-24 Thread piratenshuttle
Here is the LSI page. providing nothing for debian, only older redhat/suse.

http://www.lsi.com/products/storagecomponents/Pages/LSISAS1068E.aspx
  



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Re: Installing Debian

2012-12-24 Thread piratenshuttle
Same Problem here with debian 6.0.6 64amd.

LSI really must hate linux.

not really helpful.

some russian guys have made a deb but it has dissapeared from the server.
and no one seems to provide a backup. (licensing problems?)

http://nyalb.wordpress.com/2008/07/27/lsi-1608-in-debian-etch-megasrko-2/
  



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Laptop left in unusable state

2012-12-24 Thread Agbefia

To whom it may concern:
I have a Dell laptop Studio that runs on Win7 operating system.i tried to 
install Debian but something went wrong and my laptop cannot boot and it seems 
all my data on the hard drive were erased and I cannot access the laptop.Is 
there anyway I can reload any operating system on the laptop to make it useful 
again?
Thank you for your help
Sincerely

Komla
 
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never die.”Ted Kennedy



Re: ssh fails - SOLVED (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-24 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 10:48:00AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Du, 23 dec 12, 20:15:19, Joel Roth wrote:
> > 
> > Ah, I didn't even think to try an apt-get upgrade. 
> > I usually just upgrade apps individually as I need to...
> > an attitude based on (possibly) outdated fears of
> > getting stuck in between upgrades of C libraries
> > or other large-scale brokenness.
> 
> IMVHO your method is less safer than 'apt-get upgrade' or
> 'aptitude safe-upgrade'.

I can not agree with you more.  But there seem to exist some myth on
this feeling of safe upgrade using partial upgrade.

With symbols file in the package, we as Debian seem to care library
compatibility issues when transitioning package from unstable to
testing.  But this manual method does not check such thing.

If anyone have suggestion to improve debian-reference to prevent people
to take such strategy, let me know.  Also, concrete case example of why
such method is less safer than 'apt-get upgrade' or 'aptitude
safe-upgrade', let us know.

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management tools?

2012-12-24 Thread Miles Fidelman

Hi Folks,

I'm getting ready to rebuild a small cluster (4 nodes, xen 
virtualization) that I'm using to support a combination of hosted 
services (mostly email lists, a few web sites) and some experimentation.


To date, I've installed stuff manually, relied on a high-availability 
stack (drbd, crm) to provide failover when things go south, and some 
logwatch/alert scripts for monitoring everything.  This time around, I'm 
thinking about automating some of the install, configuration management, 
and monitoring work.


Which leads me to wonder: Those of you who run server farms on Debian, 
what are you using for:

- initial o/s install and configuration (e.g., FAI, other things?)
- software install/update/configuration (chef, puppet, ?)
- virtual machine management
- user management (control panels, ...)
- overall management (nagios, webmin, ...)

I'm sort of trying to get sense of what people actually use, and in what 
combinations, rather than what's got the buzz this week.


Thanks for anything you might share.

Miles Fidelman

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Re: iptables; some IPs are getting through netmasks

2012-12-24 Thread Richard Hector

On 24/12/12 05:41, Mark Ford wrote:



My iptables is correct? - if so, how come the email comes through?  I have the 
same problem with other /24 netmasks, for example when trying to block mail 
from Yell.


I can't see anything wrong either. I'd start debugging by adding 
otherwise identical '-j LOG --log-prefix "description "' messages ahead 
of each suspect drop rule to confirm they match what you think they should.


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Re: ssh fails - SOLVED (was: Re: git pull fails with OpenSSL version mismatch error)

2012-12-24 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Du, 23 dec 12, 20:15:19, Joel Roth wrote:
> 
> Ah, I didn't even think to try an apt-get upgrade. 
> I usually just upgrade apps individually as I need to...
> an attitude based on (possibly) outdated fears of
> getting stuck in between upgrades of C libraries
> or other large-scale brokenness.

IMVHO your method is less safer than 'apt-get upgrade' or
'aptitude safe-upgrade'.

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Re: A lot of problems with debian sid on a Notebook

2012-12-24 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 24 December 2012 01:27:57 Chris Bannister wrote:
> My understanding is that the OP has two kernels installed and wants to
> remove one of them.

+1

Lisi


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