Re: Preseeding questions - primarily configuration related

2012-12-30 Thread Bob Proulx
Richard Owlett wrote:
> Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> >>3. How  to configure individual programs? In particular:
> >> a. gedit - font size
> >> b. nautilus
> >> 1. Tree view in left panel
> >> 2. List view in main panel
> >
> >I don't think you can directly preseed something that isn't configured
> >via debconf.
> 
> That's fine.
> ...
> >unless you want to do all the configuration in a script called
> >from your preseed file.
> 
> No problem.

I suggest writing a script to be called during the late_command that
either does the configuration you want right then and there or plants
a second script to do the configuration after the initial system
reboot.

In order to write that script you will need to know what changes you
want to make to the system.  And then script those changes.  Preseed
that in as the late_command.

Bob


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Re: admin password?

2012-12-30 Thread Bob Proulx
> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
> my Admin password, what is the best way to stop using an Admin password?

Use the install disk to boot into "rescue" mode.  This will allow you
to become root on the image.  Then change the password as other have
suggested.

Bob


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2012-12-30 Thread Cesar
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Re: admin password?

2012-12-30 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi,

On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 06:50:20AM +0200, Dionyssis Goulimis wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
> my Admin password, what is the best way to recover it?

If you did not lock system with grub password, you can always login as
root without password.

Google with "grub init=/bin/bash mount" you get many howtos describing: 

Boot with 

 init=/bin/bash

or 

 init=/bin/sh 

for GRUB.  Then at root prompt

 mount -o remount,rw /

to reset with "passwd".

Cheers,

Osamu


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lightdm login screen minor issue

2012-12-30 Thread craig
Good evening,

I am trying to install a minimalist install with an XFCE desktop environment on
an old laptop. I did a clean install of wheezy, and deselected all tasks during
the install. I then booted and launched aptitude with the --without-recomends
option, and installed the task-xfce-desktop task. The resulting environment
was a bit less than I wanted, but I was able to get everything going, with
one minor exception.

At the login screen, there are two buttons in the top right-hand corner,
one for switching hi-contrast and large fonts on or off, and the other
for restarting or shutting the system down. That power "button" has no
functionality to it. When I click on it, a blank panel opens and there is
nothing to click on. I am at a loss trying to figure out what drives that
missing functionality. Can anyone give me a nudge in the right direction?

Thanks,
Craig


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Re: admin password?

2012-12-30 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:58 AM, Zenaan Harkness  wrote:
> On 12/30/12, Dionyssis Goulimis  wrote:
>> 2012/12/30, Dionyssis Goulimis :
>>>
>>> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
>>> my Admin password, what is the best way to recover it?
>>
>> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
>> my Admin password, what is the best way to stop using an Admin password?
>
> If your normal user is in /etc/sudoers, then run
> sudo su - root
> to become the root user. With sudo, you have to enter your normal
> password to use it.


Please don't top post.


No need to run "su" with "sudo".

"sudo -i" = "sudo su -"
"sudo -s" = "sudo su"


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Re: admin password?

2012-12-30 Thread Tom H
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 12:42 AM, Chris Bannister
 wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 06:51:38AM +0200, Dionyssis Goulimis wrote:
>>
>> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
>> my Admin password, what is the best way to stop using an Admin password?
>
> You mean the root password. It might be quicker to reinstall, and don't
> forget it this time! :)

You can use the grub command-line, the rescue feature of d-i, or a
live CD to reset a root password. No need to reinstall.


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Re: Top and bottom posting - again!! was: Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread David Guntner
Lisi Reisz grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On Sunday 30 December 2012 19:49:14 Dick Thomas wrote:
>> okay will bottom post, (like it matters)
> 
> Yes, it does.  Top posting makes the thread really difficult, if not 
> impossible, to follow.

Yup, that was the point I was trying to make.

>> when gmail mobile client hides the post making a bottom / threaded post
>> impossible
>> there is no need to be a* about it

For the record, I wasn't being one, I was trying to be informative.  I
don't know you, I don't know what your habits are.  There are LOTS of
people out there who don't know, or don't "think that it matters," or
*are* being "a*s" because they just don't care.  I was simply pointing
out why it does matter, hoping to be informative.

Trust me, if I ever *am* being an "a*", it will be brutally obvious (I'm
not that subtle ).

> It isn't just the mobile client on which gmail makes bottom posting and 
> correct threading well nigh impossible.  Gmail is a marvellous archive, but 
> an awful email client.
> 
> One way round this problem that some people use, is to apologise for top 
> posting, and lay the blame where it belongs, in this case on Gmail's 
> shoulders.

Exactly.  Knowing why something is/isn't being done goes a long way
towards being more understanding of it.

I use K-9 Mail on my Android phone because quite frankly, I find that as
a mail client to let me access and send from all my various accounts, it
just rocks.  Unfortunately, when it comes to making a reply, it *sucks*
rocks. :-)  It really doesn't make it easy for you to do the
quote-reply-quote-reply thing.  So I've got an automatic signature line
that it sends out, explaining that the message was sent from the phone
app and to please excuse the lack of usual quote-reply conventions.
That way, I don't get people lecturing *me* on the subject. 

So, Dick:  Sorry to hear about the sucky mobile mail client for GMail, I
feel for ya. :-)  And sorry if I offended; it was not my intent.

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Top and bottom posting - again!! was: Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Sunday 30 December 2012 19:49:14 Dick Thomas wrote:
> okay will bottom post, (like it matters)

Yes, it does.  Top posting makes the thread really difficult, if not 
impossible, to follow.

> when gmail mobile client hides the post making a bottom / threaded post
> impossible
> there is no need to be a* about it

It isn't just the mobile client on which gmail makes bottom posting and 
correct threading well nigh impossible.  Gmail is a marvellous archive, but 
an awful email client.

One way round this problem that some people use, is to apologise for top 
posting, and lay the blame where it belongs, in this case on Gmail's 
shoulders.

Lisi



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Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread Dick Thomas
On 30 December 2012 19:41, David Guntner  wrote:

> When people have been posting to a discussion thread using (literally)
> decades-old conventions for quote-and-reply, it really mucks up the read
> of that discussion when a message gets posted where the person replying
> decides to top-post his reply above all the others.  Just sayin'
>
> Dick Thomas grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > On 30 December 2012 18:26, David Guntner  wrote:
> >>
> >> Just as an asside, dropbox.com has a Debian .deb package that can be
> >> downloaded from it, as well as a Python script that can be used to
> >> control it from the shell.
> >>
> >> That might be worth looking into as well
> >
> [moved to where it should have been]
> > I've found the debian repo package doesn't work, it installs but when
> > run the daemon says it's install incorrectly and forwards me to the
> > dropbox website. this might of changed since I last tried but it
> > might be better to get it from their website
>
> Don't know about the Debian repo (the only one I could find was for
> nautilus-dropbox; and yes I know that you don't have to install Nautilus
> in order to use it :-) ).  Since I use Dropbox to sync files for my
> other computers, I decided to install it on my Debian squeeze box and
> see how things went.
>
> I downloaded the .deb package from dropbox.com and installed:
>
> > # dpkg -i dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb
> > Selecting previously deselected package dropbox.
> > (Reading database ... 213217 files and directories currently installed.)
> > Unpacking dropbox (from dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb) ...
> > Setting up dropbox (1.4.0) ...
> > Please restart all running instances of Nautilus, or you will experience
> problems. i.e. nautilus --quit
> > Dropbox installation successfully completed! You can start Dropbox from
> your applications menu.
> > Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
> > Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
> > Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
> > Processing triggers for man-db ...
>
> (Again, Nautilus is *not* needed in order to run Dropbox.  It's just
> warning you to exit and restart it if you're using it.)
> So far, so good.  Then I dropped back to my regular user account and
> started it up
>
> > $ dropbox start
> > Starting Dropbox...
> > The Dropbox daemon is not installed!
> > Run "dropbox start -i" to install the daemon
> > [davidg@janet Downloads]$ dropbox start -i
> > Starting Dropbox...
> > Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store your files online. Want to
> learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/
> >
> > In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon.
> > Note: python-gpgme is not installed, we will not be able to verify
> binary signatures. [y/n] ^C
>
> Ok, did a cntrl-C to get out and went back to root for a second to
> install the python-gpgme package, then restarted it again:
>
> > $ dropbox start -i
> > Starting Dropbox...
> > Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store your files online. Want to
> learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/
> >
> > In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon. [y/n]
> y
> > Downloading Dropbox... 100%
> > Unpacking Dropbox... 100%
> > Dropbox isn't running!
> > Done!
>
> At this point, I checked and found that in my home directory were two
> directories, .dropbox and .dropbox-dist - the later being where it
> installed the "proprietary daemon" and supporting libraries.  The
> .dropbox directory looks like it's got settings and a couple of named
> UNIX sockets.  Checking the .deb package that had been installed
> earlier, I found that /usr/bin/dropbox is a python script that handle
> manipulating (and downloading if needed) that binary.  Cool beans.  Ok,
> so *now* to start it up!
>
> > $ dropbox start -i
> > To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url:
> >
> https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=6ff61b77b102c00f0dc930b88fd37563
>
> Ok, not quite. :-)  I posted that URL into my web browser, which asked
> me to login with my regular username/password.  Once I had logged in, it
> asked me for my password one more time to link the computer to the
> account.  It said all was now well.  Tried to start it again
>
> > $ dropbox start -i
> > To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url:
> >
> https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=6ff61b77b102c00f0dc930b88fd37563
>
> Hmm, I thought that was odd, given that I had already done that.
> Decided to check on its status
>
> > $ ps -ef|egrep dropbox
> > davidg   27179 1  4 11:03 ?00:00:20
> /home/davidg/.dropbox-dist/dropbox
>
> Aha!  So it *is* running, despite the odd message.  Let's see if that's
> actually doing anything
>
> > $ dropbox status
> > Downloading 17 files (LAN) (1,498 kB/sec, 3 min left)
>
> So it *is* working!  Huzzah!  Checked, and sure enough, there's a
> Dropbox directory under my home directory
>
> > $ ls -la Dropbox
> > total 99396
> > drwx--  7 davi

Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread David Guntner
When people have been posting to a discussion thread using (literally)
decades-old conventions for quote-and-reply, it really mucks up the read
of that discussion when a message gets posted where the person replying
decides to top-post his reply above all the others.  Just sayin'

Dick Thomas grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> On 30 December 2012 18:26, David Guntner  wrote:
>>
>> Just as an asside, dropbox.com has a Debian .deb package that can be
>> downloaded from it, as well as a Python script that can be used to
>> control it from the shell.
>>
>> That might be worth looking into as well
>
[moved to where it should have been]
> I've found the debian repo package doesn't work, it installs but when
> run the daemon says it's install incorrectly and forwards me to the
> dropbox website. this might of changed since I last tried but it
> might be better to get it from their website

Don't know about the Debian repo (the only one I could find was for
nautilus-dropbox; and yes I know that you don't have to install Nautilus
in order to use it :-) ).  Since I use Dropbox to sync files for my
other computers, I decided to install it on my Debian squeeze box and
see how things went.

I downloaded the .deb package from dropbox.com and installed:

> # dpkg -i dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb
> Selecting previously deselected package dropbox.
> (Reading database ... 213217 files and directories currently installed.)
> Unpacking dropbox (from dropbox_1.4.0_amd64.deb) ...
> Setting up dropbox (1.4.0) ...
> Please restart all running instances of Nautilus, or you will experience 
> problems. i.e. nautilus --quit
> Dropbox installation successfully completed! You can start Dropbox from your 
> applications menu.
> Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils ...
> Processing triggers for gnome-menus ...
> Processing triggers for hicolor-icon-theme ...
> Processing triggers for man-db ...

(Again, Nautilus is *not* needed in order to run Dropbox.  It's just
warning you to exit and restart it if you're using it.)
So far, so good.  Then I dropped back to my regular user account and
started it up

> $ dropbox start
> Starting Dropbox...
> The Dropbox daemon is not installed!
> Run "dropbox start -i" to install the daemon
> [davidg@janet Downloads]$ dropbox start -i
> Starting Dropbox...
> Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store your files online. Want to 
> learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/
> 
> In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon.
> Note: python-gpgme is not installed, we will not be able to verify binary 
> signatures. [y/n] ^C

Ok, did a cntrl-C to get out and went back to root for a second to
install the python-gpgme package, then restarted it again:

> $ dropbox start -i
> Starting Dropbox...
> Dropbox is the easiest way to share and store your files online. Want to 
> learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/
> 
> In order to use Dropbox, you must download the proprietary daemon. [y/n] y
> Downloading Dropbox... 100%
> Unpacking Dropbox... 100%
> Dropbox isn't running!
> Done!

At this point, I checked and found that in my home directory were two
directories, .dropbox and .dropbox-dist - the later being where it
installed the "proprietary daemon" and supporting libraries.  The
.dropbox directory looks like it's got settings and a couple of named
UNIX sockets.  Checking the .deb package that had been installed
earlier, I found that /usr/bin/dropbox is a python script that handle
manipulating (and downloading if needed) that binary.  Cool beans.  Ok,
so *now* to start it up!

> $ dropbox start -i
> To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url:
> https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=6ff61b77b102c00f0dc930b88fd37563

Ok, not quite. :-)  I posted that URL into my web browser, which asked
me to login with my regular username/password.  Once I had logged in, it
asked me for my password one more time to link the computer to the
account.  It said all was now well.  Tried to start it again

> $ dropbox start -i
> To link this computer to a dropbox account, visit the following url:
> https://www.dropbox.com/cli_link?host_id=6ff61b77b102c00f0dc930b88fd37563

Hmm, I thought that was odd, given that I had already done that.
Decided to check on its status

> $ ps -ef|egrep dropbox
> davidg   27179 1  4 11:03 ?00:00:20 
> /home/davidg/.dropbox-dist/dropbox

Aha!  So it *is* running, despite the odd message.  Let's see if that's
actually doing anything

> $ dropbox status
> Downloading 17 files (LAN) (1,498 kB/sec, 3 min left)

So it *is* working!  Huzzah!  Checked, and sure enough, there's a
Dropbox directory under my home directory

> $ ls -la Dropbox
> total 99396
> drwx--  7 davidg users  4096 Dec 30 11:14 ./
> drwxr-xr-x 65 davidg users  4096 Dec 30 11:25 ../
> -rw-r--r--  1 davidg users151902 Nov  2 19:32 Battery_Meter_V2.1.gadget
> -rw-r--r--  1 davidg users162459 Dec 15 23:02 Drives_Meter_V4.1.gadget
> 

Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread Dick Thomas
I've found the debian repo package doesn't work, it installs but when run
the daemon says it's install incorrectly
and forwards me to the dropbox website. this might of changed since I last
tried
but it might be better to get it from their website

Dick Thomas

On 30 December 2012 18:26, David Guntner  wrote:

> Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > Στις 30/12/2012 03:56 μμ, ο/η lina έγραψε:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> I use xfce4, I wonder which is the best package to pick for dropbox,
> >>
> >> # apt-cache search dropbox
> > try this
> >
> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-install-dropbox-in-xubuntu-and.html..
> > It works perfectly for me
> >
> >> cairo-dock-dnd2share-plug-in - Cairo-dock - Dnd2share plug-in
> >> dvcs-autosync - Automatically synchronize distributed version control
> >> repositories
> >> libnet-dropbox-api-perl - Perl module providing a dropbox API interface
> >> python-django-social-auth - Django social authentication made simple
> >> sparkleshare - distributed collaboration and sharing tool
> >> nautilus-dropbox - Dropbox integration for Nautilus
>
> Just as an asside, dropbox.com has a Debian .deb package that can be
> downloaded from it, as well as a Python script that can be used to
> control it from the shell.
>
> That might be worth looking into as well
>
>   --Dave
>
>
>


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Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread David Guntner
Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> Στις 30/12/2012 03:56 μμ, ο/η lina έγραψε:
> 
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use xfce4, I wonder which is the best package to pick for dropbox,
>>
>> # apt-cache search dropbox
> try this
> http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-install-dropbox-in-xubuntu-and.html ..
> It works perfectly for me
> 
>> cairo-dock-dnd2share-plug-in - Cairo-dock - Dnd2share plug-in
>> dvcs-autosync - Automatically synchronize distributed version control
>> repositories
>> libnet-dropbox-api-perl - Perl module providing a dropbox API interface
>> python-django-social-auth - Django social authentication made simple
>> sparkleshare - distributed collaboration and sharing tool
>> nautilus-dropbox - Dropbox integration for Nautilus

Just as an asside, dropbox.com has a Debian .deb package that can be
downloaded from it, as well as a Python script that can be used to
control it from the shell.

That might be worth looking into as well

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Re: admin password?

2012-12-30 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
supposing that you are Greek , I send u a email in Greek how to do
chroot ... :) good luck

Στις 30/12/2012 07:21 μμ, ο/η Dionyssis Goulimis έγραψε:
> but how do you run sudo su - root? from Grub?
> 
> dionyssis
> 
> 2012/12/30, Zenaan Harkness :
>> If your normal user is in /etc/sudoers, then run
>> sudo su - root
>> to become the root user. With sudo, you have to enter your normal
>> password to use it.
>> good luck
>>
>> On 12/30/12, Dionyssis Goulimis  wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
>>> my Admin password, what is the best way to stop using an Admin password?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Dionyssis Goulimis
>>>
>>> 2012/12/30, Dionyssis Goulimis :
 Hi,

 I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
 my Admin password, what is the best way to recover it?

 Best,

 Dionyssis Goulimis

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Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras
Στις 30/12/2012 03:56 μμ, ο/η lina έγραψε:

> Hi,
> 
> I use xfce4, I wonder which is the best package to pick for dropbox,
> 
> # apt-cache search dropbox
try this
http://www.webupd8.org/2012/08/how-to-install-dropbox-in-xubuntu-and.html ..
It works perfectly for me

> cairo-dock-dnd2share-plug-in - Cairo-dock - Dnd2share plug-in
> dvcs-autosync - Automatically synchronize distributed version control
> repositories
> libnet-dropbox-api-perl - Perl module providing a dropbox API interface
> python-django-social-auth - Django social authentication made simple
> sparkleshare - distributed collaboration and sharing tool
> nautilus-dropbox - Dropbox integration for Nautilus
> 
> 
> Thanks with best regards,
> 
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Re: admin password?

2012-12-30 Thread Dionyssis Goulimis
but how do you run sudo su - root? from Grub?

dionyssis

2012/12/30, Zenaan Harkness :
> If your normal user is in /etc/sudoers, then run
> sudo su - root
> to become the root user. With sudo, you have to enter your normal
> password to use it.
> good luck
>
> On 12/30/12, Dionyssis Goulimis  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
>> my Admin password, what is the best way to stop using an Admin password?
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Dionyssis Goulimis
>>
>> 2012/12/30, Dionyssis Goulimis :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I downloaded the last edition of Debian yesterday but I can't remember
>>> my Admin password, what is the best way to recover it?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Dionyssis Goulimis
>>>
>>
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Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread lina
On Sunday 30,December,2012 10:27 PM, Patrick Wiseman wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:56 AM, lina  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I use xfce4, I wonder which is the best package to pick for dropbox,
>>
> 
> 
> 
>> nautilus-dropbox - Dropbox integration for Nautilus
> 
> I use this with great success. It plugs right into xfce4 and doesn't
> have a bunch of dependencies. (It "suggests" but does not require
> nautilus.)

Thanks, I download it from its website. ^_^

> 
> Patrick
> 
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Re: package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread Patrick Wiseman
On Sun, Dec 30, 2012 at 8:56 AM, lina  wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I use xfce4, I wonder which is the best package to pick for dropbox,
>



> nautilus-dropbox - Dropbox integration for Nautilus

I use this with great success. It plugs right into xfce4 and doesn't
have a bunch of dependencies. (It "suggests" but does not require
nautilus.)

Patrick


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package for dropbox

2012-12-30 Thread lina
Hi,

I use xfce4, I wonder which is the best package to pick for dropbox,

# apt-cache search dropbox
cairo-dock-dnd2share-plug-in - Cairo-dock - Dnd2share plug-in
dvcs-autosync - Automatically synchronize distributed version control
repositories
libnet-dropbox-api-perl - Perl module providing a dropbox API interface
python-django-social-auth - Django social authentication made simple
sparkleshare - distributed collaboration and sharing tool
nautilus-dropbox - Dropbox integration for Nautilus


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Re: How do you read logs?

2012-12-30 Thread Bob Proulx
jug...@lavabit.com wrote:
> I've read several threads about Logwatch. Many people say it's very
> annoying. I think I'll stick with `by hand' approach.

Logwatch isn't a browser program.  It is a log scraper that every few
minutes processes the log files and emails "interesting" log files to
the admin.  Interesting is defined as any line that does not match one
of the list of regular expressions that are suppressed.

Logwatch is annoying out of the box but extremely useful if tuned.  It
is annoying because there are so many messages logged that will be
emailed to you.  The default packaged set of rules is not
comprehensive.  But there are a very large number of possible messages
logged and it would be too much to ask of it to suppress all of them
across many of the packages.  So out of the box it is very noisy.

But if you spend the time to augment the rules with additional rules
to suppress what is causing noise on your system then the result is
very much on target.  But this takes some effort.  For me the effort
is worth it.  But I add 320 additional supression rules to make it
usable to give you an idea of how much effort is needed.

> Anyway, it's not convenient to use `more'. I'd like to try `grep'
> instead, but I don't know the right words (like `Exim exploded' for
> `/var/log/mail.log' or `PWN3D' for `/var/log/auth.log'). Is there a
> list?

The syslog file format is three fields of date code followed by the
hostname.  This is followed by whatever is logged.  Usually that will
be the process name and process id number followed by whatever.

If you are only interested in exim logs then look in the mail.log file
for just exim logged messages.  I don't use exim, postfix is my
preference, but on systems with exim I think exim logs elsewhere too.

But normally grep'ing for the process name is enough to extract all
messages associated with that process.

If you are having problems with exim then you might consider asking it
here directly.  I can't help though since I don't run it and don't
know enough about it to answer questions about it.

Bob


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