Re: when new versions will be available at wheezy ?

2013-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 08 ian 13, 17:20:37, J B wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Since long new packages are not coming in wheezy. As it is in frozen state.
> Does anyone has any idea when can we get new versions again ?

Probably never. Wheezy will only get security and major bug fixes until 
its end of life. If you need newer versions some package managers are 
uploading to experimental (in order not to disturb the release).

Hope this explains,
Andrei
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Re: How to make snd-aloop use index 0?

2013-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Ma, 08 ian 13, 10:35:53, Robert Latest wrote:
> Hello Andrej,
> 
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 10:05 PM, Andrei POPESCU
>  wrote:
> > Try removing all snd- modules and then manually inserting snd-aloop with
> > option index=0.
> 
> I tried that, and it works. So, technically, my problem is solved -
> but what I'm after is a solution that works automatically on each
> boot-up.

At least you know it's possible ;)

I'd try with 'option snd-hda-intel index=-1'

Kind regards,
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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages

2013-01-10 Thread Andrei POPESCU
On Jo, 10 ian 13, 15:11:44, Darac Marjal wrote:
> 
> I think I have found the solution to your problem. In the debian-goodies
> package there is a program called "debmany" that will show a man page
> from an installed or uninstalled package. It seems to rely on fetching
> the manpages from a repository, so you would need to make a local
> repository out of all those *.deb files, but that's a common enough
> task.
 
Bash's auto-complete found also debman. Both seem to be able to extract 
manpages from a given .deb as well.

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Re: Installing Debian on an SSD

2013-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Patrick Bartek wrote:
> > Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Earlier in this mailing list there has been much discussion about
> > partition alignments because people see what looks like wasted space
> > but is there specifically to work with the new advanced format
> > partitioning.  It will work fine.
> > [snip]
> 
> I'm the one who started the discussion.  Can you elaborate on the
> details of why the "gapping" is needed?  Or a reference link would
> be even better.

As far as I know all SSDs use the Advanced Format 4k sector size.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_format

And therefore need to be aligned properly to avoid wasted block
reads.  I don't have a list of known good references but searching
just now turned up these that seemed interesting and useful.  YMMV.  I
am sure I missed many other excellent references.

  http://blog.nuclex-games.com/2009/12/aligning-an-ssd-on-linux/

  
http://lifehacker.com/5837769/make-sure-your-partitions-are-correctly-aligned-for-optimal-solid-state-drive-performance

  http://tytso.livejournal.com/2009/02/20/

Bob


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Re: old ruby 1.9.1 problem - Solved

2013-01-10 Thread Paul Scott
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 07:54:54AM -0500, Lázaro wrote:
> Thread name: "Re: old ruby 1.9.1 problem" 
> Mail number: 3 
> Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 
> In reply to: Darac Marjal 
> >
> > On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:38:31AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> > > I have had the following problem for months but didn't want to break my 
> > > system:
> > > The answers I have found like install ruby1.9.1-dev give the same prpblem.
> > > 
> > > /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot 
> > > load such file -- 
> > 
> > I'm not an expert in ruby by a long shot, but "--" is used as a comment
> > marker in some languages. Have a look at the specified line in the
> > specified file (line 36 in /usr/lib/.../custom_require.rb) and see if
> > there's a line commented out. That line might be illegal in ruby.
> 
> just like bash, use # as comment, ruby is not so weird
> 
> > If
> > so, try removing the line and trying again.
> > 
> 
> I suggest purge the debian's ruby and compile your own. For dependency
> problems you can use "equivs" and simulate an installed ruby. If you 
> will work with gems, debian's version would crunch your head...

That inspired me to use dpkg to purge the file.  That allowed to continue 
updating.

Unfortunately I ended up with a broken system and reinstalled.

Thanks for everyone's help!!

Paul



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Re: Installing Debian on an SSD

2013-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Lisi Reisz wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > Grześ Andruszkiewicz wrote:
> > > Does the Debian installer work out of the box for SSDs?
> >
> > Wheezy 7.0, yes.  Squeeze 6.0, no.
> 
> Sorry, Bob, but I disagree.

I could be wrong.  :-)

The part in particular I am thinking of is the installer partitioning
the SSD disk.  I didn't think the Squeeze installer did 4k byte
alignment.  I thought it did only 512 byte alignment.  If the
partitions are not aligned then performance will suffer.  Since as far
as I know all SSD devices use 4k alignments.

> I installed Squeeze on an SSD both four months ago on my own new box
> and last weekend on my husband's, both times with no issues at all
> that were due to the SSD.

I run Squeeze just fine on my SSD too.  But I recall that I needed to
force the alignment prior to installing.

Could you check your disk alignment?

  # sfdisk -d /dev/sda

Bad (for SSDs, okay for spinning disks):
  /dev/sda1 : start=   63, size=   995967, Id=83
Good:
  /dev/sda1 : start= 2048, size=   997376, Id=83

If it says 2048 and you didn't do anything to force it then I am wrong
and Squeeze supports it okay.  And thank you for correcting me.  :-)

I had remembered needing to force the alignment.  But maybe that was
in the previous release and I am simply confusing the two.  I am sure
that the Wheezy 7.0 installer sets up the alignment properly.

> The only "problem" was that I do net installs, and there was a
> driver issue with the ethernet card on the newer box.  But that is a
> motherboard problem, not an SSD one.
> 
> I did not install Gnome, which may, of course, be relevant.

I agree that neither of those is relevant.

Bob


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Re: Debian Wheezy is not booting after install

2013-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Steve Dierker wrote:
> I decided to check the SiliconImage SATA controller first, so I
> unplugged it from the mainboard including both hard drives connected
> to it.

Good.

> Then I booted the system and voilà GRUB was appearing normaly and I
> could but the system with some failures because two hard drives where
> missing.

Yay!

> Ok, so grub has a problem with the SiliconImage controller. But is
> there anyway to fix that?

I don't have good suggestions.  Sorry.  But I would plug the PCI card
in but without any drives in the SATA port.  Then boot.  This should
boot because without any drives it should scan past it and boot from
the main sata ports.  Assuming that works then you can get to the card
id information.

Record the lspci -v output for that card.  With that information it
should be possible to search the web for more information.  And also
post that information here and maybe there will be help here.

  $ lspci -v

But that will produce a lot of output and only the section about the
SiliconImage PCI card is desired.

Brainstorm ideas would be to install the latest experimental 3.7-trunk
kernel.

Bob


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Re: What happens when you upgrade a package with modified config files?

2013-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
David Guntner wrote:
> Dom grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > On 08/01/13 19:25, David Guntner wrote:
> >> If, as someone else replied, it at least leaves a copy of the new config
> >> file behind with a .new extension or whatever, then I guess I can at
> >> least go through the process manually.  What fun!
> > 
> > It does. If you choose to retain your customised file it will save the
> > new version with a ".dpkg-new" extension (iirc), and if you choose to
> > replace your config it'll save your version with ".dpkg-old" on the end.
> 
> Cool, that's good to know.  Thanks!
> 
> > (I think I got those the right way around)
> 
>  :-)

After upgrade you should look for all of the configuration files that
are different and deal with them as you desire.  I always remove or
move the extra ones out of the way so that I can look through the etc
directory easier in the future and not need to look at the same files
again and again.

After an upgrade look for files:

  find /etc -name '*.dpkg*' -print
  find /etc -name '*.ucf*' -print

The name will make it obvious where it is old or new.  foo.dpkg-new or
foo.dpkg-old or foo.dpkg-dist and so forth.  The "ucf" files are the
same thing but that use the ucf (Update Configuration File) program to
manage this instead of dpkg.

Bob


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Re: Solved! (Re: Now won't boot (was: Re: Squeeze assembles one RAID array, at boot but not the other

2013-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Hendrik Boom wrote:
> The first problem was that I hadn't fixed up mdadm.conf and hadn't 
> rebuilt initrd.
> That fixed, I could find the gpt partitions.

Yay!

> But reconfiguring the kernel package also had the effect of 
> overwriting my boot disk, and the version of the system I 
> was running happened not to have a proper lilo configuration,
> so I ended up with an unusable boot floppy.

I am sure that I don't understand your boot arrangement.  There is the
MBR and then "/boot" and then "/" in the boot sequence.  If you are
booting from floppies then your MBR is on the floppy.  It sounds like
your /boot is on the floppy too?

If I remember correctly, it has been a while since I used lilo, it is
required for lilo to update the MBR with the updated boot
information.  If you are using lilo then the lilo boot area must be
re-frozen with the new kernel boot information every time the kernel
is updated.

When using grub this is different.  Grub uses a multi-stage boot
loader.  The MBR portion doesn't change.  It reads the configuration
from the filesystem.  So with grub the MBR no no need for updates.

As I recall in the Lenny 5.0 release notes when using grub it was
recommended that the MBR should be updated with the latest bits since
it isn't otherwise updated and there had been changes in that release
cycle.

With both grub and lilo it will update the /boot/initrd.img-X.Y.Z-$ARCH
matching the currently running kernel.  But that is what we wanted.

> The lilo.conf was out of date, and referred to a nonexistent 
> root partitino.

Out of date because of the recent changes in disks?  That sounds like
the root of the problem.  Good that you were able to debug to that
point.

> Somehow, the boot process failed to notice this and instead
> of the kernel complaining about not having a root partition, 
> it complained about the absence of /sbin/init.

That does seem odd.

> Or maybe it found a stray partition and happened to mount it on
> /root, uselessly.  Hard to say.

I don't think it mounts "stray" partitions.

> When I use the mount command in the initramfs shell all it'll rell
> me is that /dev/root is mounted on /.  Not very informative.

Nope.

> But I managed to boot using an old lilo floppy left over from
> another Linux I had on the machine a while ago.
> It still had the ability to boot into squeeze but with an very 
> old kernel.  I immediately write-protected the floppy, just 
> in case.

Good idea!

> Using that, I could edit the lilo.conf file.  I inserted a variety
> of stanzas, requesting different kernels and specifying the (same)
> root partition in a variety of ways.

Yay!  System mostly rescued.

> root=/dev/mapper/VG1-squeezeroot worked.
> root=/dev/VG1/squeezeroot did not.
> Both the old and new kernels would boot and find the gpt partitiions,
> but only the  new kernel could access the ext4 file systems on
> them.

Ah, yes, because ext4 is newer than those kernels.  Makes sense.

> But what still doesn't work is booting with grub2.  I thing the BIOS
> is having a hard time figuring out which of my four hard drives to boot.
> I suppose it's time to look into the BIOS parameters and/or switch cables
> connecting the disks to the disk controller cards.

I have debugged one issue lately where the motherboard silkscreen
labels for the SATA ports were different from what the BIOS order
reported.  That is, SATA 0 mapped to BIOS 4, SATA 1 to BIOS 2, and so
forth in a strange order.  The motherboard labels were mismatched from
the BIOS order.  I had to determine the correct mapping so that I
could get my boot drive into the BIOS SATA 0 position.

The standard BIOS will try to boot from the lowest numbered SATA port.
For example if disks are in SATA 2 and SATA 3 then it will try to boot
from 2.  If in SATA 0 and SATA 1 then it will try to boot from SATA 0.
That lowest SATA port disk is the disk that should be your desired
boot disk with the MBR on it.  Any other disk order won't work.

This is sometimes confusing.  Adding new disks can cause the "first"
BIOS disk to change to a different disk.  For example if you had
previously had disks in 2 & 3 with the system booting fine from number
2 and then added new disks to 0 & 1.  It would then try to boot from 0
and unless an MBR had been installed there it will fail.  I always
order the cables so that the BIOS order meets my desire of which disk
I want to have as the boot disk.

After the kernel has booted almost all of the modern systems such as
mdadm, lvm, the fstab use filesystem UUIDs to identify the drives.  So
after the kernel has booted everything using UUIDs will be okay
regardless of the disk cable ordering.

Bob


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Re: Kwallet + Networkmanager

2013-01-10 Thread Michael Biebl
On 11.01.2013 04:40, Beco wrote:
> On 10 January 2013 12:12,   wrote:
>> Aptitude said me that networkmanager is a software which does not seem to
>> have a dedicated desktop environment (it's website is located at gnome.org,
>> but I did not see any gnome dependencies in it, simply some modules usable
>> but not mandatory for gnome). On the other hand, kwallet, seeing it name,
>> sounds like a KDE's softwares.
>>
>> I bet on compatibility problems.
>>
>> The solution is probably to use a KDE equivalent of networkmanager, but I
>> can not help you on a name: I do not use desktop environments :)
>>

> I'll try to find some "k" network manager as a possible solution, it
> sounds reasonable.


If you want desktop integration for KDE, use
"plasma-widget-networkmanagement"

network-manager is just the core daemon. GNOME shell uses and integrated
NM client, GNOME 2 and 3 classic use network-manager-gnome and KDE the
aforementioned plasma-widget-networkmanagement.
This ensures best possible desktop integration.

In case of KDE and pnm, that also means kwallet.

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Re: Kwallet + Networkmanager

2013-01-10 Thread Beco
On 10 January 2013 12:12,   wrote:
> Aptitude said me that networkmanager is a software which does not seem to
> have a dedicated desktop environment (it's website is located at gnome.org,
> but I did not see any gnome dependencies in it, simply some modules usable
> but not mandatory for gnome). On the other hand, kwallet, seeing it name,
> sounds like a KDE's softwares.
>
> I bet on compatibility problems.
>
> The solution is probably to use a KDE equivalent of networkmanager, but I
> can not help you on a name: I do not use desktop environments :)
>

Hum... funny... Never tought of that (about desktop environments)

I'll try to find some "k" network manager as a possible solution, it
sounds reasonable.

Thx for now. I may report back.

Beco


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Re: Using wheezy or squeeze.

2013-01-10 Thread Steven Ayre
>
> If you're
> really paranoid, I suppose you have three servers: Live, Copy-of-Live
> and Development. :)


I wouldn't call that paranoid at all, I'd call that good practice...

Use 'stable' (Copy-of-Live) to check your application will run ok with the
packages/versions available on squeeze. Sometimes it'll mean falling back
to backports, creating your own backport, or adjusting your application.
I've found such problems on several occasions - developing on testing and
finding a dependency wasn't available in squeeze, was too old to support
feature X, or a library's API had changed.

Use 'testing' (Development) to check there're no surprises when testing
becomes the new stable.
One memorable one that came up in the lenny->squeeze transition was the
removal of the MySQL Cluster engine from MySQL Server between 5.0 and 5.1
(the projects forked).

-Steve




On 9 January 2013 13:48, Darac Marjal  wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:25:47AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
>> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:58:01AM +, Darac Marjal wrote:
>> > This is the whole point of the testing distribution, AFAIUI. You run
>> > 'stable' on your production server and 'testing' on your development
>> > server.
>>
>> Really?
>>
>> Wouldn't you want your development server/environment to be setup as
>> close as possible to your production server?
>
> For most of the lifespan, yes. But at some point you need to start
> looking at the new version of the OS and start working out how you're
> going to upgrade the production server with minimal fuss. If you're
> really paranoid, I suppose you have three servers: Live, Copy-of-Live
> and Development. :)
>
>>
>> BTW, I believe development, and upgrading from one stable distribution
>> to the next one as two different concepts.
>>
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Re: employee attendance system

2013-01-10 Thread Muhammad Yousuf Khan
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:19 PM, Gordon Haverland
 wrote:
> Are you familiar with FreeCode.com?  It used to be known as
> Freshmeat.net.  It is one place where FOSS gets advertised.  The
> following projects seem to be active, and solve your problems.  I
> have not used any of them.  The freecode pages have links to the
> software.
>
>
> TimeTrex - AGPL
> http://freecode.com/projects/timetrex
>
> OrangeHRM - GPL
> http://freecode.com/projects/orangehrm
>
> phpgw - GPL
> http://freecode.com/projects/phpgwtimetrack
>
> PHP Timeclock - GPL
> http://freecode.com/projects/timeclock
>
> SimpleHRM - AGPL
> http://freecode.com/projects/simplehrm
>
> Timeclock software - GPL
> http://freecode.com/projects/timeclock-software
>
> Gord

Thanks this seems quite interesting.
i think i need to try them

Thanks a lot,


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bnx2 netboot FW problem

2013-01-10 Thread Luis Vinay
Hi,

I'm trying to clone many servers at once using DRBL live + Clonezilla, I'm
using the las version of DRBL from the site and I came across with the
folowing problem:

I have HP DL385G7 servers, those comes with 4 Broadcom Netextreme II
interfaces with work fine on the DRBL live CD and some others I tested, the
BNX2 module loads fine and the firwmare is loaded whitout an issue too.
The problem arises when I set up the enviroment for the other servers boot
so I can clone them with clonezilla, the PXE stage works fine and both the
pxe kernel and initrd loads normally, but when the time comes for the
interfaces to get linked I get the following message:

bxn2: Can't load firmware file "bnx2/bnx-mips-09-6.2.1a.fw"

I assumed that the module cannot find the firmware, but I think that's not
the case because the files are in place in the initrd image
(/lib/firmare/bnx2).

Then I tryed getting both the module and the FW inside the kernel but I get
a similar error:

firmware: agent did not handle request for bnx2/bnx2-mips-09-6.2.1a.fw

I'm using the kernel that comes with DRBL which is 3.2.0-4-amd64.img and I
compliled 3.2.35 using debian packages.

I think the problem is something missing in the initrd enviroment prevents
the firmware to be loaded, but I cannot pinpoint the problem, hope someone
can shed some light here

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Solved! (Re: Now won't boot (was: Re: Squeeze assembles one RAID array, at boot but not the other

2013-01-10 Thread Hendrik Boom
On Wed, 09 Jan 2013 17:45:10 -0500, Tom H wrote:

> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:31 PM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
>> On Tue, 08 Jan 2013 01:42:24 -0500, Tom H wrote:
>>> On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 1:44 PM, Hendrik Boom  wrote:
 On Mon, 07 Jan 2013 11:20:45 -0700, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Hendrik Boom wrote:
>>
>> Won't boot.  Gets stick at the initramfs prompt after complaining
>> that it can't run /sbin/init
>>
>> I look with ls, and discover that /sbin exists, bit is totally
>> empty.  that seems a good reason to be unable to run /sbin/init.
>
> Does seem to be a good reason.  I can't remember what is in the bin
> directories of an initrd bootstrapping image.  Pretty sure there is at
> least something in /sbin though.  And noting that for the most part I
> think you will be working out of a busybox shell which is used to
> reduce the amount of file system storage space needed in that early
> boot time environment.

 Would it really be complaining about missing /sbin/init on the initrd
 ramdisk, or about /sbin/init being missing on the real root partition,
 which could be caused by not having mounted it yet?
>>>
>>> There isn't a "/sbin/init" in the initramfs. There's "/init", a shell 
>>> script.
>>>
>>> You've reached the point where the initramfs expects the root fs to
>>> have been moved. It seems to have failed but I don't understand why
>>> there's an empty "/sbin" rather than no "/sbin".
>>
>> I've taken the initrds apart for the kernel that boots and the kernel
>> that doesn't boot.  They both seem to have everything they ought to and
>> not the empty directories I'm seeing.
>>
>> That isn't the problem.
> 
> Of course it isn't the problem but it's weird.
> 
> Have you tried to boot with "break=bottom" and assembling
> disks/partitions manually?

The first problem was that I hadn't fixed up mdadm.conf and hadn't 
rebuilt initrd.
That fixed, I could find the gpt partitions.

But reconfiguring the kernel package also had the effect of 
overwriting my boot disk, and the version of the system I 
was running happened not to have a proper lilo configuration,
so I ended up with an unusable boot floppy.
The lilo.conf was out of date, and referred to a nonexistent 
root partitino.

Somehow, the boot process failed to notice this and instead
of the kernel complaining about not having a root partition, 
it complained about the absence of /sbin/init.  Or maybe it 
found a stray partition and happened to mount it on /root,
uselessly.  Hard to say.  When I use the mount command in 
the initramfs shell all it'll rell me is that /dev/root is
mounted on /.  Not very informative.

But I managed to boot using an old lilo floppy left over from
another Linux I had on the machine a while ago.
It still had the ability to boot into squeeze but with an very 
old kernel.  I immediately write-protected the floppy, just 
in case.

Using that, I could edit the lilo.conf file.  I inserted a variety
of stanzas, requesting different kernels and specifying the (same)
root partition in a variety of ways.

root=/dev/mapper/VG1-squeezeroot worked.
root=/dev/VG1/squeezeroot did not.
Both the old and new kernels would boot and find the gpt partitiions,
but only the  new kernel could access the ext4 file systems on
them.

But what still doesn't work is booting with grub2.  I thing the BIOS
is having a hard time figuring out which of my four hard drives to boot.
I suppose it's time to look into the BIOS parameters and/or switch cables
connecting the disks to the disk controller cards.

-- hendrik


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Re: minidrive: Spinning up disk ... .not responding ...

2013-01-10 Thread Sposkpat Sposkpat
testdisk has photorec, might help.

--- On Thu, 1/10/13, Albretch Mueller  wrote:

> From: Albretch Mueller 
> Subject: minidrive: Spinning up disk ... .not responding ...
> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org
> Date: Thursday, January 10, 2013, 10:05 AM
>  I need to extract the data from a
> Western Digital (1 TB My Passport
> 0740) mini disk that started to fail
> ~
>  
> http://hsymbolicus.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/bus-powered-or-not-port-on-wd-1t-minidrive/
> ~
>  The disk does not even show when you run fdisk -l, so you
> can't even
> mount it to run smartctl on it
> ~
>  After opening it, I realized it had other types of
> connectors, but I
> can't identify what they are
> ~
>  Any hopes or tips to get the data?
> ~
>  thanks
>  lbrtchx
> 
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minidrive: Spinning up disk ... .not responding ...

2013-01-10 Thread Albretch Mueller
 I need to extract the data from a Western Digital (1 TB My Passport
0740) mini disk that started to fail
~
 
http://hsymbolicus.wordpress.com/2013/01/10/bus-powered-or-not-port-on-wd-1t-minidrive/
~
 The disk does not even show when you run fdisk -l, so you can't even
mount it to run smartctl on it
~
 After opening it, I realized it had other types of connectors, but I
can't identify what they are
~
 Any hopes or tips to get the data?
~
 thanks
 lbrtchx


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Re: Problem to run debian testing on my desktop computer

2013-01-10 Thread Bob Proulx
Mathieu Stumpf wrote:
> Thank for your help Bob, I'll try that as soon as I can. I think I
> should be able to do that in command line without a screen.

It is too difficult to accomplish without a display and completely
typo free.  Instead boot the installer as a rescue media.

Since you have just installed Debian Testing it means that you have
the installation media still available.  Use it in "Rescue" mode to do
this.  It is much easier.  It is useful to know about.

Here is the official documentation for it:

  http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch08s07.html.en

But that is fairly terse.  Let me say that the rescue mode looks just
like the install mode initially.  It will ask you keyboard and locale
questions and you might wonder if you are rescuing or installing!  But
it will have "Rescue" in the upper left corner so that you can tell
that you are not in install mode and be assured.  Get the tool set up
with keyboard, locale, timezone, and similar and eventually it will
give you a menu with a list of actions.  Here is a quick run-through.

  Advanced options...
  Rescue mode
  keyboard dialog
  ...starts networking...
  hostname dialog
  domainname dialog
  ...apt update release files...
  ...loading additional components, Retrieving udebs...
  ...detecting disks...

Then eventually it will get to a menu "Enter rescue mode" that will
ask what device to use as a root file system.  It will list the
partitions that it has automatically detected.  If you have used a
RAID then one of the menu entry items near the bottom will be
"Assemble RAID array" and you should assemble the raid at that point.
That will bring up the next dialog menu asking for partitions to
assemble.  Select the appropriate for your system.  Then continue.

At that point it presents a menu "Execute a shell in /dev/...".  That
should get you a shell on your system with the root partition
mounted.  It is a /bin/sh shell.  I usually at that point start bash
so as to have bash command line recall and editing.  Then mount all of
the additional disks.

  # /bin/bash
  root@hostname:~# mount -a

At that point you have a root superuser shell on the system and can
make system changes.  After doing what needs doing you can reboot to
the system.  Remove the Debian install media and boot to the normal
system and see if the changes were able to fix the problem.

Bob



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Re (3): Percentage noted by network manager.

2013-01-10 Thread peasthope
Darac & others,

From:   Darac Marjal 
Date:   Thu, 10 Jan 2013 16:14:59 +
> I was rather meaning how much the signal is attenuated between the
> sender and receiver.

My hypothesis. ...
For the receiver to know the attenuation from the tranmitter, the 
header of each frame would have to contain a number representing the 
transmitted power.  Than assuming the receiver knows the received 
power, it can calculate power attenuation.  Of course, received power 
is not necessarily received information.  In 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethernet_frame there is no mention of 
transmitted power.  I suppose it might be hidden in a lower layer 
but probably this information and calculation just do not exist.

The header has a frame check sequence and retransmission of a corrupted 
frame can occur.  So the receiver can know how many bad copies 
arrived before a good copy.  That might be incorporated into the 
signal quality calculation.

> However, doing a quick bit of searching suggests that the whole "link
> quality as a percentage" thing is more like voodoo: ...

That was my suspicion.  Thanks for the references.

Regards, ... Peter E.



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Re: Re (2): Percentage noted by network manager.

2013-01-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 07:43:56AM -0800, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> From: Darac Marjal 
> Date: Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:07:38 +
> > This being a Wireless connection, it's more likely to be signal
> > strength.
> 
> My original thought also.
> 
> > ... no attenuation = 100% ...
> 
> I don't understand.  Any received signal which is too weak to 
> saturate the receiver should not need attenuation.  Every such 
> signal is marked as 100%?  Whereas any signal which saturates 
> the receiver will be attenuated.  Such signal is marked as less 
> than 100%?  Seems counter intuitive.

I was rather meaning how much the signal is attenuated between the
sender and receiver.

However, doing a quick bit of searching suggests that the whole "link
quality as a percentage" thing is more like voodoo:
http://en.usenet.digipedia.org/thread/18494/13225/
http://www.rigacci.org/wiki/doku.php/doc/appunti/linux/sa/wifi_signal_quality



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Re (2): Percentage noted by network manager.

2013-01-10 Thread peasthope
From:   Darac Marjal 
Date:   Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:07:38 +
> This being a Wireless connection, it's more likely to be signal
> strength.

My original thought also.

> ... no attenuation = 100% ...

I don't understand.  Any received signal which is too weak to 
saturate the receiver should not need attenuation.  Every such 
signal is marked as 100%?  Whereas any signal which saturates 
the receiver will be attenuated.  Such signal is marked as less 
than 100%?  Seems counter intuitive.

> Don't expect to see either [0% or 100%] value as a result.

The 100% annotation appears frequently.  Sometimes a smaller 
percentage can be raised by moving closer to the access point.  
I don't recall ever seeing a percentage less than about 35.

Appears this is another instance where the best documentation 
is the source code.  Thanks for the interest and discussion,

  ... Peter E.

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Re: employee attendance system

2013-01-10 Thread Gordon Haverland
Are you familiar with FreeCode.com?  It used to be known as 
Freshmeat.net.  It is one place where FOSS gets advertised.  The 
following projects seem to be active, and solve your problems.  I 
have not used any of them.  The freecode pages have links to the 
software.


TimeTrex - AGPL
http://freecode.com/projects/timetrex

OrangeHRM - GPL
http://freecode.com/projects/orangehrm

phpgw - GPL
http://freecode.com/projects/phpgwtimetrack

PHP Timeclock - GPL
http://freecode.com/projects/timeclock

SimpleHRM - AGPL
http://freecode.com/projects/simplehrm

Timeclock software - GPL
http://freecode.com/projects/timeclock-software

Gord


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Re: Kwallet + Networkmanager

2013-01-10 Thread berenger . morel

Le 10.01.2013 05:13, Beco a écrit :

What is the point of kwallet saving the wireless password from
networkmanager if
networkmanager copies the password to its own dialog box under 
"manage

connections/wireless/edit"?

Or am I missing something?

I tried to set networkmanager to "do not save/always prompt", but it
wont trigger kwallet this way.
(is that the way to go, and the behavior I see is just a bug?)

It seems to me this 2 programs do not like to talk to each other...

Thanks,
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Aptitude said me that networkmanager is a software which does not seem 
to have a dedicated desktop environment (it's website is located at 
gnome.org, but I did not see any gnome dependencies in it, simply some 
modules usable but not mandatory for gnome). On the other hand, kwallet, 
seeing it name, sounds like a KDE's softwares.


I bet on compatibility problems.

The solution is probably to use a KDE equivalent of networkmanager, but 
I can not help you on a name: I do not use desktop environments :)



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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages

2013-01-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 11:19:31AM -0600, Richard Owlett wrote:
> When I've wanted to look at a man page for an uninstalled package
> I've used http://manpages.debian.net .
> It would more convenient to have *ALL* pages available locally.
> 
> Are they available to download as a set somewhere on the web? [I use
> squeeze.]
> 
> I have copied all the .deb files from the 8 DVD install set to a USB
> drive.  How could I extract all the man pages?

I think I have found the solution to your problem. In the debian-goodies
package there is a program called "debmany" that will show a man page
from an installed or uninstalled package. It seems to rely on fetching
the manpages from a repository, so you would need to make a local
repository out of all those *.deb files, but that's a common enough
task.



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LINK

2013-01-10 Thread Janderson Jetto
Ta travadãop o link para download do Debian.. assim fica difícil 
estudar a dist. Download a 60kbps.. isso não existe... fedora baixo a 
1MB no mínimo.



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Re: old ruby 1.9.1 problem

2013-01-10 Thread Lázaro
Thread name: "Re: old ruby 1.9.1 problem" 
Mail number: 3 
Date: Thu, Jan 10, 2013 
In reply to: Darac Marjal 
>
> On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:38:31AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> > I have had the following problem for months but didn't want to break my 
> > system:
> > The answers I have found like install ruby1.9.1-dev give the same prpblem.
> > 
> > /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load 
> > such file -- 
> 
> I'm not an expert in ruby by a long shot, but "--" is used as a comment
> marker in some languages. Have a look at the specified line in the
> specified file (line 36 in /usr/lib/.../custom_require.rb) and see if
> there's a line commented out. That line might be illegal in ruby.

just like bash, use # as comment, ruby is not so weird

> If
> so, try removing the line and trying again.
> 

I suggest purge the debian's ruby and compile your own. For dependency
problems you can use "equivs" and simulate an installed ruby. If you 
will work with gems, debian's version would crunch your head...





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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Owlett

Chris Davies wrote:

Richard Owlett  wrote:

My specification explicitly says NO connection whatsoever to
the internet.


The one you posted at the beginning of this thread didn't say
that. However, I'm happy to think about other alternatives.

Chris



Apologies. It's one of those cases where I knew what I 
meant. Evidently others did not.




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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages

2013-01-10 Thread Richard Owlett

Sposkpat Sposkpat wrote:

Get the manpages from The Linux Documentation Project
http://www.tldp.org/manpages/man.html

http://www.kernel.org/pub/linux/docs/man-pages/man-pages-3.45.tar.gz



Thank you. I'm new to Linux and keep finding new places to look.



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Re: old ruby 1.9.1 problem

2013-01-10 Thread Darac Marjal
On Wed, Jan 09, 2013 at 10:38:31AM -0700, Paul Scott wrote:
> I have had the following problem for months but didn't want to break my 
> system:
> The answers I have found like install ruby1.9.1-dev give the same prpblem.
> 
> /usr/lib/ruby/1.9.1/rubygems/custom_require.rb:36:in `require': cannot load 
> such file -- 

I'm not an expert in ruby by a long shot, but "--" is used as a comment
marker in some languages. Have a look at the specified line in the
specified file (line 36 in /usr/lib/.../custom_require.rb) and see if
there's a line commented out. That line might be illegal in ruby. If
so, try removing the line and trying again.



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Re: [OT] font

2013-01-10 Thread Panayiotis Karabassis
Your mail reader. It's just a rule built into it. BTW, -delete- does not
show up specially in icedove.

HTML is another story, it has tags.

On 01/04/2013 11:56 AM, lina wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> What makes the *bold* bold? and -delete- delete.
> 
> I can't google it out about it? just curious, thanks.


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Re: Local copy of ALL man pages

2013-01-10 Thread Chris Davies
Richard Owlett  wrote:
> My specification explicitly says NO connection whatsoever to 
> the internet.

The one you posted at the beginning of this thread didn't say
that. However, I'm happy to think about other alternatives.

Chris


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Re: start-stop-daemon : questions about retry

2013-01-10 Thread - -
Hi Darac,

unfortunately that’s already the case. But today I have a different behaviour. 
Cherokee stops, but doesn't kill php-cgi. Very very wierd.

# ps aux
USER   PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
www-data  1294  0.1  0.7 193960 44688 ?    S    Jan09   1:07 php-cgi -b 
127.0.0.1:47990
root  1374  0.0  0.0  24712   764 ?    Ssl  Jan09   0:00 
/usr/local/sbin/cherokee -d
www-data  1376  0.0  0.1 794328 10528 ?    Sl   Jan09   0:01 
/usr/local/sbin/cherokee-worker
www-data  1378  0.0  0.0  76372  2156 ?    S    Jan09   0:00 
/usr/bin/rrdtool -
[…]

# cat /usr/local/var/run/cherokee.pid
1374

# start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --retry=TERM/30/KILL/5 --pidfile 
/usr/local/var/run/cherokee.pid --name cherokee

#ps aux
USER   PID %CPU %MEM    VSZ   RSS TTY  STAT START   TIME COMMAND
www-data  1294  0.1  0.7 193960 44688 ?    S    Jan09   1:08 php-cgi -b 
127.0.0.1:47990
[…]

Does this have something to do with the script, or with cherokee?

Cheers

Stadtpirat







Von: Darac Marjal 
An: debian-user@lists.debian.org 
Gesendet: 12:32 Montag, 7.Januar 2013
Betreff: Re: start-stop-daemon : questions about retry

On Sun, Jan 06, 2013 at 02:10:43AM -0800, - - wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I am trying to write an init script for cherokee webserver. Not, there is 
> already one, but I wanted to have one derived from skeleton.
> 
> 
> 
> In function "do_stop()" the script executes this line:
> "start-stop-daemon --stop --quiet --retry=TERM/30/KILL/5 --pidfile $PIDFILE 
> --name $NAME"

Right, I believe that this will find a process with the name $NAME and
the pid specified in $PIDFILE and then send SIGTERM to that process,
wait 30 seconds, then SIGKILL and wait 5 seconds (if the process stops
within that 35 seconds, that's good, otherwise s-s-d will return 2).

So, probably the first thing to check is that $PIDFILE and $NAME have
the values you want and that $PIDFILE exists and has a pid stored in it.

> 
> But nothing happens. I get exit code 1, which means that the daemon was 
> already stopped. But that is not true. The daemon was still running and not 
> cherokee, nor it's subprocesses were stopped.
> 
> Am I doing something wrong here?
> 
> THanks
> 
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