Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 07:37:20 +0100, Richard Hector wrote: Of course the ultimate craziness is "1.44Mb" (1440kiB) floppies Wow, I never noticed that, or I have forgotten hat I noticed it. In my defence, I used 3.5" discs quasi only for the Atari ST, so most of them are DD, but indeed, I've got some HD disks too. FWIW, no data loss even when used with drives for DD disks, at least last time when I tested some of the HDs they were much older than CDs that were already borked. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wsk6w7qkqhadp0@freebsd
Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On 16/02/13 17:45, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > Powers of 10 make completely no sense. Why not simply dropping the > powers of 10 and using the prefixes *B and *iB both for the powers of 2? Powers of 2 make sense when you're talking about RAM, where the modules have a certain number of binary address lines, so they naturally fall on those boundaries. For disks, there's no particular advantage, and manufacturers generally use proper prefixes. For network bandwidth, there's even less advantage, and 'binary' prefixes are hardly ever used. But when you're working out how long it will take to fill up your RAM buffer from disk or network, you'd better be aware of the differences between the units, and it only adds to the confusion if the same prefixes mean different things in different contexts. Of course the ultimate craziness is "1.44Mb" (1440kiB) floppies ... Richard -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/511f2920.3000...@walnut.gen.nz
Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:20:54 +0100, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And who declared these made-up prefixes "official"? Making up prefixes for something which has always been that way is confusing. It's simple. When dealing with computers, it's powers of 2. When dealing with distances, it's powers of 10. Not confusing at all. /snip/ Actually, when dealing with distances, it's not powers of 10, it factors of 12, (inches/foot) 3, (feet.yard) and 5280 (ft/mile). Leave us not get into furlongs, leave us not! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/511f276b.4020...@optonline.net
Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 04:20:54 +0100, Jerry Stuckle wrote: And who declared these made-up prefixes "official"? Making up prefixes for something which has always been that way is confusing. It's simple. When dealing with computers, it's powers of 2. When dealing with distances, it's powers of 10. Not confusing at all. I'm not a computer pioneer, but anyway a computer dino. When I started programming the prefix "*iB" wasn't introduced or perhaps it was introduced, but not used in Germany. The first Assembler editors were not similar to the compiling language editors, but comparable to hex editors. It wasn't needed to "compile" Assembler, but in return it was impossible to add a command between two commands, if the coder did not keep free space. So my generation is aware of the powers of 2 and powers of 10 were completely absurd. I don't know when I was confused for the first time, however, it's no issue for me to drop the prefix *B and to use the prefix *iB, but I can't stand that since around 10 years using Linux, it's still a chaos, an arbitrary usage of the prefixes. Powers of 10 make completely no sense. Why not simply dropping the powers of 10 and using the prefixes *B and *iB both for the powers of 2? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/op.wsk0t8gfqhadp0@freebsd
Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On 2/14/2013 4:52 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote: Ralf Mardorf a écrit : On Thu, 2013-02-14 at 09:50 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 13 feb 13, 14:08:15, Richard Hector wrote: Abusing the standard prefixes like that was always a horrible hack. +1 It's also a major source of confusion for many users. Agreed. And now there are "official" binary prefixes, so there is no excuse for not using them when powers of 2 are more convenient instead of abusing SI decimal prefixes. And who declared these made-up prefixes "official"? Making up prefixes for something which has always been that way is confusing. It's simple. When dealing with computers, it's powers of 2. When dealing with distances, it's powers of 10. Not confusing at all. $ hwinfo --memory Memory Size: 3 GB + 512 MB so it should be GiB, but they call it GB. Bad habits die hard. Many programs have been faulty, but more and more are getting fixed. Yep, and maybe sooner or later Debian will catch up. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/511efb16.7060...@attglobal.net
Re: audacious : mousewheel volume control
Sorry , Rob, I replied directly to you, so resend to this list. > In ~/.config/audacious/config, there is a parameter called > mouse_wheel_change. I expect that is what you're looking for. > > By the way, most software on Linux systems keep user settings in hidden > files in the user's home directory. Sometimes they're kept in the > ~/.config directory, but sometimes they're in a ~/.some_program/ > directory, and sometimes the file is saved directly in the home > directory as ~/.some_program Than you very much , Rob, but my config file did'nt have the parameter. So I added the parameter mouse_wheel_change=10 at various positions in the config file , but RESULT = NG. And more googling , i found the page http://linux.softpedia.com/get/Multimedia/Audio/Audacious-11801.shtml that says in the Bugfixes section (bottom of the page), "· Mouse wheel settings where removed (for now) from properties, because they didn't actually do anything." The page is on the audacious version 3.0.9, and the version of audacious of debian squeeze is 2.3. That means , even though I add the parameter anywhere in the config file, it's no use ? But , if your mouse wheel setting of audacious does work , pls let me know your contents of the config file and the version of audacious. Regards. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/311398.96182...@web100809.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp
Re: audacious : mousewheel volume control
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 09:16:42PM +0900, orang Aumori Jepun wrote: > Hi, all. > > I'm using Debian Squeeze. > While I'm using audacious music player, I can increase/decrease audio volume > by 5% with mouse wheel. > But , I want change the 5% to 1% or any value I want. > Anyone please tell me how to do . > Ubuntu hardy had a preference menu to change the value , but debian squeeze > does'nt. > > I downloaded the source of audacious-plugins , and I found in PO file , there > is a description "mouse wheel value ..", but I could not go further . > In ~/.config/audacious/config, there is a parameter called mouse_wheel_change. I expect that is what you're looking for. By the way, most software on Linux systems keep user settings in hidden files in the user's home directory. Sometimes they're kept in the ~/.config directory, but sometimes they're in a ~/.some_program/ directory, and sometimes the file is saved directly in the home directory as ~/.some_program Even Ubuntu's preference menu for audacious just makes changes to the config file based on your mouse clicks. -Rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130215132454.ga30...@aurora.owens.net
Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 15:58:16 +1300 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:41:47PM +1300, Richard Hector wrote: > > On 13/02/13 14:32, Jerry Stuckle wrote: > > > On 2/12/2013 4:43 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: > > > > >> Assumed you'll build a fence, 10m long and every 1m there should > > >> be 1 fence post, how many fence posts do you need? > > >> > > > > > > 11 :) > > > > Depends how you interpret the instructions. If it's "you can leave > > up to 1m hanging without a post", then you only need 9 :-) > > Don't you need a gate somewhere? > I got rid of Gates 12 years ago. And Windows. -- cmg -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130215080150.23cdedea.cgrigs...@att.net
audacious : mousewheel volume control
Hi, all. I'm using Debian Squeeze. While I'm using audacious music player, I can increase/decrease audio volume by 5% with mouse wheel. But , I want change the 5% to 1% or any value I want. Anyone please tell me how to do . Ubuntu hardy had a preference menu to change the value , but debian squeeze does'nt. I downloaded the source of audacious-plugins , and I found in PO file , there is a description "mouse wheel value ..", but I could not go further . TIA. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/280406.68723...@web100809.mail.kks.yahoo.co.jp
Re: OT: just falling back to fluxbox after Gnome3 mem-leak experince
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 12:09:16PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: > Indeed, but we're talking about 3GB of memory here, which seems hard to > justify for such an application. Sure, but my point was it's not a leak. Being memory inefficient is one thing. Leaking memory is where, over time, it takes more and more memory because it is not properly freeing up memory it has finished with. You need to sample the memory usage more than once to establish that some is being lost to leaks. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130215115750.GF19236@debian
Re: OT - Convert output of byte count to GB count?
On Fri, Feb 15, 2013 at 03:56:58PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 03:35:01PM +0100, Alois Mahdal wrote: > > > > (Finally, as we know, there's only 10 kinds of people...) > > Yeah, those that put people into categories and those that don't :) Then surely you're in the category of "people not otherwise categoried"? signature.asc Description: Digital signature
