date:20130314

On 03/14/2013 07:16 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 06:45 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 06:32 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 06:18 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Ethan

Rosenberg, PhD
Pres/CEO
Hygeia Biomedical Research, Inc
2 Cameo Ridge Road
Monsey, NY 10952
T: 845 352-3908
F: 845 352-7566
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com

On 03/14/2013 05:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 04:44 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com
wrote:

Dear list -

When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
How do I fix it?

Thanks.

Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe MD5SUM or other test?

===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had
Windows XP loaded when received, and displayed the same
problem.. I installed the Debian from official disks.

Ethan

I'm confused by it complaining about SQL Server Data
Tools. :)

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when
received, and displayed the same problem"? Were you able
to boot into XP originally? Can you boot into Debian?

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be
cured by going into the BIOS and resetting everything to
the defaults. You can also try running memtest86 to verify
that your RAM is good.

Mark -

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received,
and displayed the same problem"? When I purchased the
computer, Windows XP was loaded on it. It booted perfectly,
but displayed the same error message. I thought that the
error was a function of XP, so I did nothing at that point.

Were you able to boot into XP originally? See above.

Can you boot into Debian? Yes.

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be
cured by going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the
defaults. Did it, no luck.

You can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM
is good. I think that is a Windows function. No response
from Debian.

SSDT -

From Wikepedia - Secondary

System Description Table, an ACPI table.

Ethan

No. Memtest86 is a bootable program that you can start from a
USB stick or most Debian installations. It should be on the
grub menu when you boot.

Mark -

Thanks.

Neither Memtest86 or memtest86 work but...

I do not get any memory errors when I boot.

I think, in my ignorance, that is some software for power
management. My apologies, but the total error message as I
remember, is:
"SSDT not found. No support for power management for dual core processors".

Ethan

memtest86 is not a command that you type. It is on the grub menu
when you boot.

=
Mark -

Thanks.

No errors found.

Ethan

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Re: loading truecrypt from the command line

2013-03-14 Thread Zenaan Harkness

On 3/15/13, Sharon Kimble  wrote:
> i am loading truecrypt from the command line with an alias of "tc" ..
> alias tc='/home/boztu/truecrypt --fs-options=users,uid=$(id
> -u),gid=$(id -g),fmask=0113,dmask=0002 --mount
> /home/boztu/Documents/basket' and it comes back with 'mount: wrong fs
> type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/truecrypt1,  missing
> codepage or helper program, or other error  In some cases useful info
> is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so'
>
> How do I get round this please so that I can load it from the command line?

I haven't done that for a long time. Looks like it could be just an
"underlying" mount-lib problem.

Can you mount using the gui?

Are you able to test in some other way?

Zenaan


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ffmpeg/avconv doesn't recognize -strict experimental

2013-03-14 Thread Joel Roth

Dear List,

ffmpeg/avconv aborts even with -strict experimental when input 
file audio is encoded with AAC. Does the audio
*have* to be decoded? I was thinking there might
be some kind of pass-through option.

The behavior of ffmpeg and avconv appears to be
identical.

$ avconv -acodec aac -strict experimental -i "S3 D5 Irene.mov" -b 500k "S3 D5 
Irene.m4v"
avconv version 0.8.5-6:0.8.5-1, Copyright (c) 2000-2012 the
Libav developers
  built on Jan 13 2013 12:05:48 with gcc 4.7.2
Input #0, mov,mp4,m4a,3gp,3g2,mj2, from 'S3 D5 Irene.mov':
  Metadata:
major_brand : qt
minor_version   : 537199360
compatible_brands: qt
creation_time   : 2012-06-22 13:23:05
  Duration: 00:23:33.81, start: 0.00, bitrate: 614 kb/s
Stream #0.0(eng): Video: h264 (Main), yuv420p, 640x480,
478 kb/s, 29.97 fps, 29.97 tbr, 2997 tbn, 5994 tbc
Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-06-22 13:23:05
Stream #0.1(eng): Audio: aac, 48000 Hz, stereo, s16, 130
kb/s
Metadata:
  creation_time   : 2012-06-22 13:23:06
File 'S3 D5 Irene.m4v' already exists. Overwrite ? [y/N] y
[buffer @ 0x147c540] w:640 h:480 pixfmt:yuv420p
[libx264 @ 0x147ccc0] using cpu capabilities: MMX2 SSE2Fast
SSSE3 FastShuffle SSE4.2
[libx264 @ 0x147ccc0] profile Main, level 3.0
[libx264 @ 0x147ccc0] 264 - core 123 r2189 35cf912 -
H.264/MPEG-4 AVC codec - Copyleft 2003-2012 -
http://www.videolan.org/x264.html - options: cabac=1 ref=3
deblock=1:0:0 analyse=0x1:0x111 me=hex subme=7 psy=1
psy_rd=1.00:0.00 mixed_ref=0 me_range=16 chroma_me=1
trellis=1 8x8dct=0 cqm=0 deadzone=21,11 fast_pskip=1
chroma_qp_offset=-2 threads=6 sliced_threads=0 nr=0
decimate=1 interlaced=0 bluray_compat=0 constrained_intra=0
bframes=3 b_pyramid=0 b_adapt=1 b_bias=0 direct=1 weightb=0
open_gop=1 weightp=2 keyint=250 keyint_min=25 scenecut=40
intra_refresh=0 rc_lookahead=40 rc=abr mbtree=1 bitrate=500
ratetol=1.0 qcomp=0.60 qpmin=0 qpmax=69 qpstep=4
ip_ratio=1.25 aq=1:1.00
encoder 'aac' is experimental and might produce bad results.
Add '-strict experimental' if you want to use it.

Regards,

Joel


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Re: SSDT


On 14/03/13 06:45 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 06:32 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 06:18 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
/Pres/CEO/
*Hygeia Biomedical Research, Inc*
2 Cameo Ridge Road
Monsey, NY 10952
T: 845 352-3908
F: 845 352-7566
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com

On 03/14/2013 05:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 04:44 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com wrote:

 Dear list -

  When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
   How do I fix it?

  Thanks.

  Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe 
MD5SUM or other test?

===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP 
loaded when received, and displayed the same problem..  I 
installed the Debian from official disks.


Ethan



I'm confused by it complaining about SQL Server Data Tools.  :)

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and 
displayed the same problem"? Were you able to boot into XP 
originally? Can you boot into Debian?


This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by 
going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. You 
can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good.



Mark -

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and 
displayed the same problem"?   When I purchased the computer, 
Windows XP was loaded on it.  It booted perfectly, but displayed the 
same error message.  I thought that the error was a function of XP, 
so I did nothing at that point.


Were you able to boot into XP originally?  See above.

Can you boot into Debian?  Yes.

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by 
going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. Did 
it, no luck.


You can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. 
I think that is a Windows function.  No response from Debian.


SSDT -

From Wikepedia - Secondary System Description Table 
, 
an ACPI table.


Ethan


No. Memtest86 is a bootable program that you can start from a USB 
stick or most Debian installations. It should be on the grub menu 
when you boot.


Mark -

Thanks.

Neither Memtest86 or memtest86 work but...

I do not get any memory errors when I boot.

I think, in my ignorance, that is some software for power management.  
My apologies, but the total error message as I remember, is:

"SSDT not found. No support for power management for dual core processors".

Ethan


memtest86 is not a command that you type.  It is on the grub menu when 
you boot.

Re: SSDT

On 03/14/2013 06:32 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 06:18 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Ethan
Rosenberg, PhD
Pres/CEO
Hygeia Biomedical Research, Inc
2 Cameo Ridge Road
Monsey, NY 10952
T: 845 352-3908
F: 845 352-7566
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com

On 03/14/2013 05:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 04:44 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com
wrote:

Dear list -

When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
How do I fix it?

Thanks.

Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe MD5SUM or other test?

===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had
Windows XP loaded when received, and displayed the same
problem.. I installed the Debian from official disks.

Ethan

I'm confused by it complaining about SQL Server Data Tools.
:)

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received,
and displayed the same problem"? Were you able to boot into XP
originally? Can you boot into Debian?

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured
by going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the
defaults. You can also try running memtest86 to verify that
your RAM is good.

Mark -

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and
displayed the same problem"? When I purchased the computer,
Windows XP was loaded on it. It booted perfectly, but displayed
the same error message. I thought that the error was a function
of XP, so I did nothing at that point.

Were you able to boot into XP originally? See above.

Can you boot into Debian? Yes.

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by
going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults.
Did it, no luck.

You can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is
good. I think that is a Windows function. No response from
Debian.

SSDT -

From Wikepedia - Secondary
System Description Table, an ACPI table.

Ethan

No. Memtest86 is a bootable program that you can start from a USB
stick or most Debian installations. It should be on the grub menu
when you boot.

Mark -

Thanks.

Neither Memtest86 or memtest86 work but...

I do not get any memory errors when I boot.

Ethan

Re: SSDT


On 14/03/13 06:18 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


Ethan Rosenberg, PhD
/Pres/CEO/
*Hygeia Biomedical Research, Inc*
2 Cameo Ridge Road
Monsey, NY 10952
T: 845 352-3908
F: 845 352-7566
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com

On 03/14/2013 05:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 04:44 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com wrote:

 Dear list -

  When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
   How do I fix it?

  Thanks.

  Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe 
MD5SUM or other test?

===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP 
loaded when received, and displayed the same problem..  I installed 
the Debian from official disks.


Ethan



I'm confused by it complaining about SQL Server Data Tools.  :)

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and 
displayed the same problem"? Were you able to boot into XP 
originally? Can you boot into Debian?


This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by 
going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. You can 
also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good.



Mark -

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and 
displayed the same problem"?   When I purchased the computer, Windows 
XP was loaded on it.  It booted perfectly, but displayed the same 
error message.  I thought that the error was a function of XP, so I 
did nothing at that point.


Were you able to boot into XP originally?  See above.

Can you boot into Debian?  Yes.

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by going 
into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. Did it, no luck.


You can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good. I 
think that is a Windows function.  No response from Debian.


SSDT -

From Wikepedia - Secondary System Description Table 
, 
an ACPI table.


Ethan


No. Memtest86 is a bootable program that you can start from a USB stick 
or most Debian installations. It should be on the grub menu when you boot.

Re: SSDT

Ethan
Rosenberg, PhD
Pres/CEO
Hygeia Biomedical Research, Inc

2 Cameo Ridge Road
Monsey, NY 10952
T: 845 352-3908
F: 845 352-7566
erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com

On 03/14/2013 05:01 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

On 14/03/13 04:44 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com wrote:

Dear list -

When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
How do I fix it?

Thanks.

Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe MD5SUM or other test?

===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP
loaded when received, and displayed the same problem.. I
installed the Debian from official disks.

Ethan

I'm confused by it complaining about SQL Server Data Tools. :)

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and
displayed the same problem"? Were you able to boot into XP
originally? Can you boot into Debian?

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by
going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. You
can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good.

Mark -

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and
displayed the same problem"? When I purchased the computer,
Windows XP was loaded on it. It booted perfectly, but displayed the
same error message. I thought that the error was a function of XP,
so I did nothing at that point.

Were you able to boot into XP originally? See above.

Can you boot into Debian? Yes.

This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by
going into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. Did
it, no luck.

You can also try running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good.
I think that is a Windows function. No response from Debian.

SSDT -

From Wikepedia - Secondary
System Description Table, an ACPI table.

Ethan

Re: KDE4 - wrong root password?

On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 21:57 +0100, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:
> Hi folks, 
> 
> since some time I discovered a strange behaviour. Whenever I want to kill a 
> process, or need root privileges (i.e. with kdesu) and I need to enter my 
> root 
> password, this is not accepted. 
> 
> But - when I use the password of the user I am working with in this cases, it 
> will work. This is very strange! The normal user can do things, that root 
> cannot do (only in KDE).
> 
> I admit, it might be a setting problem in KDE, but I cannot remember, to 
> configure or change anything related to this behavior.
> 
> Can someone give me a clue, what I can check, to get back to normal behavior?
> 
> This problem appears only on my amd64-machine, my other two machines are 
> working fine.

This behavior isn't limited to KDE or Debian. It started many years ago,
a long time before we got all that annoying crap. Perhaps you don't know
what I mean with "annoying crap", since Debian is not as up to date, as
many other distros are. Expect much more annoyance in the future. What
you describe here IMO is absolutely ok. Root still can kill processes,
if you open a terminal emulation. If you start a GUI to do it, then it's
ok, that you have to type the user password. Note that not every user
will get those privileges automatically.
It's a feature and I'm not ironic. It really isn't a bug and makes
sense.

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Re: KDE4 - wrong root password?


On 14/03/13 04:57 PM, Hans-J. Ullrich wrote:

Hi folks,

since some time I discovered a strange behaviour. Whenever I want to kill a
process, or need root privileges (i.e. with kdesu) and I need to enter my root
password, this is not accepted.

But - when I use the password of the user I am working with in this cases, it
will work. This is very strange! The normal user can do things, that root
cannot do (only in KDE).

I admit, it might be a setting problem in KDE, but I cannot remember, to
configure or change anything related to this behavior.

Can someone give me a clue, what I can check, to get back to normal behavior?

This problem appears only on my amd64-machine, my other two machines are
working fine.


Thank you very much.

Regards

Hans


Sounds like root may be disabled and you are using sudo to execute those 
commands. This is a normal method for running Linux these days. To 
re-enable root, open a terminal and try:


sudo bash(to get to a root prompt)
passwd root
exit

Then try to su into root.


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Re: SSDT


On 14/03/13 04:44 PM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com wrote:

 Dear list -

  When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
   How do I fix it?

  Thanks.

  Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe 
MD5SUM or other test?

===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP 
loaded when received, and displayed the same problem..  I installed 
the Debian from official disks.


Ethan
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I'm confused by it complaining about SQL Server Data Tools.  :)

What do you mean by "It had Windows XP loaded when received, and 
displayed the same problem"? Were you able to boot into XP originally? 
Can you boot into Debian?


This message seems to be related to the BIOS and may be cured by going 
into the BIOS and resetting everything to the defaults. You can also try 
running memtest86 to verify that your RAM is good.

KDE4 - wrong root password?

2013-03-14 Thread Hans-J. Ullrich

Hi folks, 

since some time I discovered a strange behaviour. Whenever I want to kill a 
process, or need root privileges (i.e. with kdesu) and I need to enter my root 
password, this is not accepted. 

But - when I use the password of the user I am working with in this cases, it 
will work. This is very strange! The normal user can do things, that root 
cannot do (only in KDE).

I admit, it might be a setting problem in KDE, but I cannot remember, to 
configure or change anything related to this behavior.

Can someone give me a clue, what I can check, to get back to normal behavior?

This problem appears only on my amd64-machine, my other two machines are 
working fine. 


Thank you very much.

Regards

Hans 


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Re: SSDT


  
  
On 03/14/2013 03:16 PM, m...@neidorff.com wrote:

  
Dear list -

 When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
  How do I fix it?

 Thanks.

 Ethan

  
  Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passedthe MD5SUM or other test?


===
Mark -

Thanks.

I bought this laptop from eBay as a used unit. It had Windows XP
loaded when received, and displayed the same problem..  I installed
the Debian from official disks.

Ethan
  



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Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 03:39:54 +0800

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Chromium on Sid Very Slow

2013-03-14 Thread David Baron

This is supposed to be the fastest browser but not right now.

Almost unusable. Rekonq and others do far better.

What gives?

Re: SSDT

2013-03-14 Thread mark

> Dear list -
>
>  When I boot my Debian [6.0.1] I receive a message "SSDT not found."
>   How do I fix it?
>
>  Thanks.
>
>  Ethan

Did you check the media that you booted from and make sure that it passed
the MD5SUM or other test?


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Re: Firefox is too eager

2013-03-14 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2013-03-14 19:43 +0100, Joel Roth wrote:

> There are some recent behaviors that I find invasive:
>
> When I open a link in a new tab, I often get a new
> window as well, frequently to the same site, that
> I have to close.
>
> Some are windows from news sites, asking me to subscribe.
>
> When I roll over a link, it often pops up a window,
> small or large, that I have to close.
>
> I feel I am not in control (sort a Windows/Mac thing
> where the behavior is what the developer wants to
> give me) not what I specifically ask for.
>
> What are my alternatives to get a more user-driven experience?
> Is this all coming from Javascript?

Quite possible, depending on the sites you visit.

> Is there a general way to solve 
> the issue, or do I need to research specific add-ons for
> popups, rollovers, etc., etc.

Turn off JavaScript.  If that is too invasive, install the Adblock Plus
and NoScript extensions.

Cheers,
   Sven


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loading truecrypt from the command line

2013-03-14 Thread Sharon Kimble

i am loading truecrypt from the command line with an alias of "tc" ..
alias tc='/home/boztu/truecrypt --fs-options=users,uid=$(id
-u),gid=$(id -g),fmask=0113,dmask=0002 --mount
/home/boztu/Documents/basket' and it comes back with 'mount: wrong fs
type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/mapper/truecrypt1,  missing
codepage or helper program, or other error  In some cases useful info
is found in syslog - try dmesg | tail  or so'

How do I get round this please so that I can load it from the command line?

Thanks
Sharon.
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Re: Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library

2013-03-14 Thread Giacomo Mulas


On Thu, 14 Mar 2013, Francesco Pietra wrote:


As to the problem of linking lapack, I wonder whether this is because
it deal of a C-language code, requiring a fine-tuned calling. Is any C
interface to lapack in Debian?


Ciao Francesco.
There are several implementation of lapack in debian. You should make sure
to link against its dependencies as well. On my wheezy computer, if I do
ls -l /usr/lib/liblapack.so I get
/usr/lib/liblapack.so -> /etc/alternatives/liblapack.so
and in turn /etc/alternatives/liblapack.so -> /usr/lib/lapack/liblapack.so
/usr/lib/lapack/liblapack.so belongs to liblapack-dev. So in my case
liblapack.so points to the alternative installed by the liblapack-dev
package (there is another alternative, for example, in
/usr/lib/atlas-base/atlas, installed by libatlas-base-dev). 
If I do ldd /usr/lib/liblapack.so, I get:

ldd /usr/lib/liblapack.so
linux-vdso.so.1 =>  (0x7fff153fe000)
libblas.so.3 => /usr/lib/libblas.so.3 (0x7ffe79e46000)
libgfortran.so.3 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgfortran.so.3
(0x7ffe79b2f000)
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 (0x7ffe798ad000)
libgcc_s.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1
(0x7ffe79697000)
libquadmath.so.0 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libquadmath.so.0
(0x7ffe79461000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x7ffe790d7000)
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
(0x7ffe78ebb000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x7ffe7c02a000)

So I know from the above that if I want to link a code with liblapack, I
also need to link against libblas, libpthread and libm at least. If the
compiler does not include them automatically (i.e. if I am not using
gfortran to compile) I also need to explicitly include libgfortran, and if I
am not using gcc compilers at all, I need to even add libgcc_s and
libquadmath (but using these libraries compiled with gnu compilers with
another compiler would be looking for trouble).

As to explicitely linking against libstdc++, here you may have another
problem: I don't have a libstdc++.so or a libstdc++.a in my library path, it
is in /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.x and is usually never explicitely
linked, it is always automatically included by the compiler. In any case you
will not find it in /usr/lib, nor in /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu (the default
directory for 64bit libs in a multiarch system, as debian is since wheezy).

So in my case I would need to do
LIBS="-llapack -lblas -lpthread -lm -L/usr/lib/gcc/x86_64-linux-gnu/4.7 \
-lstdc++"

As to headers, liblapack is fortran native, it can be called from C/C++ but
still it is a fortran library. If you want the native C/C++ library, you
should use liblapacke, which comes with the liblapacke and liblapacke-dev
packages in debian. But while I sometimes used it in my codes, I have yet to
see a released package using it. The liblapacke-dev package does include
header files.

Ciao
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Re: Firefox is too eager

2013-03-14 Thread agroconsultor0


On 03/14/2013 11:43 AM, Joel Roth wrote:

Hi list,

There are some recent behaviors that I find invasive:

When I open a link in a new tab, I often get a new
window as well, frequently to the same site, that
I have to close.

Some are windows from news sites, asking me to subscribe.

When I roll over a link, it often pops up a window,
small or large, that I have to close.

I feel I am not in control (sort a Windows/Mac thing
where the behavior is what the developer wants to
give me) not what I specifically ask for.

What are my alternatives to get a more user-driven experience?
Is this all coming from Javascript?  Is there a general way to solve
the issue, or do I need to research specific add-ons for
popups, rollovers, etc., etc.

I already use and like links2 for some purposes.

Thanks,

Joel

Hello

i am used to use Firefox in Slackware, and Iceweasel in Debian; the 
add-ons in Slackware are from Mozilla; but add-ons in Debian are from 
Debian. The difference is that add-ons coming from Debian are more 
trusted, in my point of view. In Slackware, it appears a tab from 
no-script with a script on it, and no-script is allowed by default. It 
does not happen with Debian.


Your browser seems, like if it has been compromised, please wait for a 
more technical response. I do not know how deep it could be.


bye.


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Firefox is too eager

2013-03-14 Thread Joel Roth

Hi list,

There are some recent behaviors that I find invasive:

When I open a link in a new tab, I often get a new
window as well, frequently to the same site, that
I have to close.

Some are windows from news sites, asking me to subscribe.

When I roll over a link, it often pops up a window,
small or large, that I have to close.

I feel I am not in control (sort a Windows/Mac thing
where the behavior is what the developer wants to
give me) not what I specifically ask for.

What are my alternatives to get a more user-driven experience?
Is this all coming from Javascript?  Is there a general way to solve 
the issue, or do I need to research specific add-ons for
popups, rollovers, etc., etc.

I already use and like links2 for some purposes.

Thanks,

Joel
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Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library

I just came across

liblapacke
liblapacke-dev

for amd64 wheezy. Are these packages what is needed to link lapack
header files and so files for a C-language program? If so, can these
packages be installed in addition to those already installed:

liblapack3gf
liblapack3gf-dev

thanks
francesco pietra

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:53 PM
Subject: Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library
To: amd64 Debian , debian-users

As to the problem of linking lapack, I wonder whether this is because
it deal of a C-language code, requiring a fine-tuned calling. Is any C
interface to lapack in Debian?

thanks
francesco

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Subject: Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library
To: amd64 Debian , debian-users

No, it is not correct. With the indicated links, patching reports all
correct Hunk(s), while a post script is incorrect. So that "make
depends" for the program+plugin does not correlate anything.

I tried the link to "-L/usr" with same error. It is not clear to me
whether it is a problem of path, or of lacking headers. While I see
the headers for stdc++ (commanding "locate ...", I don't see headers
for lapack (having installed liblapack3gf-dev). Perhaps some other
lapack package is required.

I tried to have a more verbose patching, as the error indicated both
on "patching" and on "make depends":

plugin.inc:39: *** missing separator. Stop
DONE!

 does not point to a remedy.

francesco

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Linking lapack and C standard library
To: João Luis Meloni Assirati , amd64
Debian , debian-users

Hello  João Luis:

Sorry for my lack of care in setting the addresses.

What I did was: install liblapack3gf-dev to complete the
installations, according to previous suggestions. Now, my guess for
the link is

LIBS="-L/usr/lib -llapack  -L/usr/lib  -lstdc++"

According to the README, a link to both lapack and lstc++ libraries is
needed. No  link to the C++ compiler, as the above link is for a
plugin for a program that is C++ compiled. Should those LIBS above not
be correctly linked, the program complises without the plugin.

I am going to try with the above link. If it works, I have to consider
whether faster libraries would speed up the plugin. I don't know how
heavy the mathematical computations are. I have the MKL libraries,
though as rpm package. And since a few years, alien alone is no more
capable of transforming that rpm to deb. Probably rpm would install
with Debian, though one never knows where the files are.

Thanks
francesco

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:19 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
 wrote:
> Em 14-03-2013 08:54, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>
>> Please  see my previous answer, and action.
>>
>> Directions how to compile that program tell that links to both lapack
>> and lstc++ libraries are required in LIBS=. No link to the C++
>> compiler is required.
>
>
> Francesco, please answer to the list. I could not see your previous answer
> nor action. I'm a subscriber of the debian-users list only.
>
> João Luis.
>
>
>>
>> francesco
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 14-03-2013 08:00, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>>>
 Hello
 May I ask how to correctly link lapack and C standard libraries with
 Debian amd64 wheezy?
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean how to compile a C program, linking both lapack and the standard
>>> C
>>> library to it? I suppose so in the following.
>>>
>>>
 Packages installed: liblapack3gf liblapack3 libblas3 libc6 libc6-dev
 **
>>>
>>>
>>> You probably need liblapack-dev also, which contains the header files
>>> needed
>>> to compile our program.
>>>
>>>
 The code to compile makes a generic example:

 LIBS="-llapack -lstdc++"
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's a C program, you don't need the C++ standard library. Suppose
>>> your
>>> program is a file program.c. Try
>>>
>>> gcc -llapack -lm -o program program.c
>>>
>>> Usually you don't have to explicitly link the standard C library (because
>>> it
>>> is standard), except the math portions of it (so use the -lm switch if
>>> you
>>> are using math functions from the standard lib).
>>>
>>>
 thanks

 francesco pietra

>>> João Luis.
>>>
>

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Feedback on software

2013-03-14 Thread benjamin kent


Hello everybody.

Lately I encountered trouble with a MP3 player using the FAT file-system.
As others had this problem, too , I wrote a little tool.

http://sourceforge.net/projects/plgen/?source=navbar

https://freecode.com/projects/plgen

Do you have any ideas on how to obtain more feedback on this program?
In addition, I somehow got a DEB that works. As this is my first DEB
experience, and honestly, I am not much of a "package-maker",
I would appreciate feedback on this, too.

Thankful and eager to collect your ideas,
Benjamin


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Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library

As to the problem of linking lapack, I wonder whether this is because
it deal of a C-language code, requiring a fine-tuned calling. Is any C
interface to lapack in Debian?

thanks
francesco

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 6:35 PM
Subject: Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library
To: amd64 Debian , debian-users

No, it is not correct. With the indicated links, patching reports all
correct Hunk(s), while a post script is incorrect. So that "make
depends" for the program+plugin does not correlate anything.

I tried the link to "-L/usr" with same error. It is not clear to me
whether it is a problem of path, or of lacking headers. While I see
the headers for stdc++ (commanding "locate ...", I don't see headers
for lapack (having installed liblapack3gf-dev). Perhaps some other
lapack package is required.

I tried to have a more verbose patching, as the error indicated both
on "patching" and on "make depends":

plugin.inc:39: *** missing separator. Stop
DONE!

 does not point to a remedy.

francesco

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Linking lapack and C standard library
To: João Luis Meloni Assirati , amd64
Debian , debian-users

Hello  João Luis:

Sorry for my lack of care in setting the addresses.

What I did was: install liblapack3gf-dev to complete the
installations, according to previous suggestions. Now, my guess for
the link is

LIBS="-L/usr/lib -llapack  -L/usr/lib  -lstdc++"

According to the README, a link to both lapack and lstc++ libraries is
needed. No  link to the C++ compiler, as the above link is for a
plugin for a program that is C++ compiled. Should those LIBS above not
be correctly linked, the program complises without the plugin.

I am going to try with the above link. If it works, I have to consider
whether faster libraries would speed up the plugin. I don't know how
heavy the mathematical computations are. I have the MKL libraries,
though as rpm package. And since a few years, alien alone is no more
capable of transforming that rpm to deb. Probably rpm would install
with Debian, though one never knows where the files are.

Thanks
francesco

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:19 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
 wrote:
> Em 14-03-2013 08:54, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>
>> Please  see my previous answer, and action.
>>
>> Directions how to compile that program tell that links to both lapack
>> and lstc++ libraries are required in LIBS=. No link to the C++
>> compiler is required.
>
>
> Francesco, please answer to the list. I could not see your previous answer
> nor action. I'm a subscriber of the debian-users list only.
>
> João Luis.
>
>
>>
>> francesco
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 14-03-2013 08:00, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>>>
 Hello
 May I ask how to correctly link lapack and C standard libraries with
 Debian amd64 wheezy?
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean how to compile a C program, linking both lapack and the standard
>>> C
>>> library to it? I suppose so in the following.
>>>
>>>
 Packages installed: liblapack3gf liblapack3 libblas3 libc6 libc6-dev
 **
>>>
>>>
>>> You probably need liblapack-dev also, which contains the header files
>>> needed
>>> to compile our program.
>>>
>>>
 The code to compile makes a generic example:

 LIBS="-llapack -lstdc++"
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's a C program, you don't need the C++ standard library. Suppose
>>> your
>>> program is a file program.c. Try
>>>
>>> gcc -llapack -lm -o program program.c
>>>
>>> Usually you don't have to explicitly link the standard C library (because
>>> it
>>> is standard), except the math portions of it (so use the -lm switch if
>>> you
>>> are using math functions from the standard lib).
>>>
>>>
 thanks

 francesco pietra

>>> João Luis.
>>>
>

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Fwd: Linking lapack and C standard library

No, it is not correct. With the indicated links, patching reports all
correct Hunk(s), while a post script is incorrect. So that "make
depends" for the program+plugin does not correlate anything.

I tried the link to "-L/usr" with same error. It is not clear to me
whether it is a problem of path, or of lacking headers. While I see
the headers for stdc++ (commanding "locate ...", I don't see headers
for lapack (having installed liblapack3gf-dev). Perhaps some other
lapack package is required.

I tried to have a more verbose patching, as the error indicated both
on "patching" and on "make depends":

plugin.inc:39: *** missing separator. Stop
DONE!

 does not point to a remedy.

francesco

-- Forwarded message --
From: Francesco Pietra 
Date: Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 3:54 PM
Subject: Re: Linking lapack and C standard library
To: João Luis Meloni Assirati , amd64
Debian , debian-users

Hello  João Luis:

Sorry for my lack of care in setting the addresses.

What I did was: install liblapack3gf-dev to complete the
installations, according to previous suggestions. Now, my guess for
the link is

LIBS="-L/usr/lib -llapack  -L/usr/lib  -lstdc++"

According to the README, a link to both lapack and lstc++ libraries is
needed. No  link to the C++ compiler, as the above link is for a
plugin for a program that is C++ compiled. Should those LIBS above not
be correctly linked, the program complises without the plugin.

I am going to try with the above link. If it works, I have to consider
whether faster libraries would speed up the plugin. I don't know how
heavy the mathematical computations are. I have the MKL libraries,
though as rpm package. And since a few years, alien alone is no more
capable of transforming that rpm to deb. Probably rpm would install
with Debian, though one never knows where the files are.

Thanks
francesco

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:19 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
 wrote:
> Em 14-03-2013 08:54, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>
>> Please  see my previous answer, and action.
>>
>> Directions how to compile that program tell that links to both lapack
>> and lstc++ libraries are required in LIBS=. No link to the C++
>> compiler is required.
>
>
> Francesco, please answer to the list. I could not see your previous answer
> nor action. I'm a subscriber of the debian-users list only.
>
> João Luis.
>
>
>>
>> francesco
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 14-03-2013 08:00, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>>>
 Hello
 May I ask how to correctly link lapack and C standard libraries with
 Debian amd64 wheezy?
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean how to compile a C program, linking both lapack and the standard
>>> C
>>> library to it? I suppose so in the following.
>>>
>>>
 Packages installed: liblapack3gf liblapack3 libblas3 libc6 libc6-dev
 **
>>>
>>>
>>> You probably need liblapack-dev also, which contains the header files
>>> needed
>>> to compile our program.
>>>
>>>
 The code to compile makes a generic example:

 LIBS="-llapack -lstdc++"
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's a C program, you don't need the C++ standard library. Suppose
>>> your
>>> program is a file program.c. Try
>>>
>>> gcc -llapack -lm -o program program.c
>>>
>>> Usually you don't have to explicitly link the standard C library (because
>>> it
>>> is standard), except the math portions of it (so use the -lm switch if
>>> you
>>> are using math functions from the standard lib).
>>>
>>>
 thanks

 francesco pietra

>>> João Luis.
>>>
>

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Re: Linking lapack and C standard library

2013-03-14 Thread Jörg-Volker Peetz

Francesco Pietra wrote, on 03/14/13 15:54:
> Hello  João Luis:
> 
> Sorry for my lack of care in setting the addresses.
> 
> What I did was: install liblapack3gf-dev to complete the
> installations, according to previous suggestions. Now, my guess for
> the link is
> 
> LIBS="-L/usr/lib -llapack  -L/usr/lib  -lstdc++"

You probably have also to link with the blas library:

LIBS=" -lblas -llapack"

is all it takes, I think. The standard libraries are linked in automatically by
gcc or g++, resp.

> 
> According to the README, a link to both lapack and lstc++ libraries is
> needed. No  link to the C++ compiler, as the above link is for a
> plugin for a program that is C++ compiled. Should those LIBS above not
> be correctly linked, the program complises without the plugin.
> 
> I am going to try with the above link. If it works, I have to consider
> whether faster libraries would speed up the plugin. I don't know how
> heavy the mathematical computations are. I have the MKL libraries,
> though as rpm package. And since a few years, alien alone is no more
> capable of transforming that rpm to deb. Probably rpm would install
> with Debian, though one never knows where the files are.
> 
> Thanks
> francesco
> 

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Re: Linking lapack and C standard library

Hello  João Luis:

Sorry for my lack of care in setting the addresses.

What I did was: install liblapack3gf-dev to complete the
installations, according to previous suggestions. Now, my guess for
the link is

LIBS="-L/usr/lib -llapack  -L/usr/lib  -lstdc++"

According to the README, a link to both lapack and lstc++ libraries is
needed. No  link to the C++ compiler, as the above link is for a
plugin for a program that is C++ compiled. Should those LIBS above not
be correctly linked, the program complises without the plugin.

I am going to try with the above link. If it works, I have to consider
whether faster libraries would speed up the plugin. I don't know how
heavy the mathematical computations are. I have the MKL libraries,
though as rpm package. And since a few years, alien alone is no more
capable of transforming that rpm to deb. Probably rpm would install
with Debian, though one never knows where the files are.

Thanks
francesco

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 1:19 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
 wrote:
> Em 14-03-2013 08:54, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>
>> Please  see my previous answer, and action.
>>
>> Directions how to compile that program tell that links to both lapack
>> and lstc++ libraries are required in LIBS=. No link to the C++
>> compiler is required.
>
>
> Francesco, please answer to the list. I could not see your previous answer
> nor action. I'm a subscriber of the debian-users list only.
>
> João Luis.
>
>
>>
>> francesco
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:21 PM, João Luis Meloni Assirati
>>   wrote:
>>>
>>> Em 14-03-2013 08:00, Francesco Pietra escreveu:
>>>
 Hello
 May I ask how to correctly link lapack and C standard libraries with
 Debian amd64 wheezy?
>>>
>>>
>>> You mean how to compile a C program, linking both lapack and the standard
>>> C
>>> library to it? I suppose so in the following.
>>>
>>>
 Packages installed: liblapack3gf liblapack3 libblas3 libc6 libc6-dev
 **
>>>
>>>
>>> You probably need liblapack-dev also, which contains the header files
>>> needed
>>> to compile our program.
>>>
>>>
 The code to compile makes a generic example:

 LIBS="-llapack -lstdc++"
>>>
>>>
>>> If it's a C program, you don't need the C++ standard library. Suppose
>>> your
>>> program is a file program.c. Try
>>>
>>> gcc -llapack -lm -o program program.c
>>>
>>> Usually you don't have to explicitly link the standard C library (because
>>> it
>>> is standard), except the math portions of it (so use the -lm switch if
>>> you
>>> are using math functions from the standard lib).
>>>
>>>
 thanks

 francesco pietra

>>> João Luis.
>>>
>

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Re: Linking lapack and C standard library

2013-03-14 Thread João Luis Meloni Assirati


Em 14-03-2013 08:00, Francesco Pietra escreveu:

Hello
May I ask how to correctly link lapack and C standard libraries with
Debian amd64 wheezy?


You mean how to compile a C program, linking both lapack and the 
standard C library to it? I suppose so in the following.



Packages installed: liblapack3gf liblapack3 libblas3 libc6 libc6-dev
**


You probably need liblapack-dev also, which contains the header files 
needed to compile our program.



The code to compile makes a generic example:

LIBS="-llapack -lstdc++"


If it's a C program, you don't need the C++ standard library. Suppose 
your program is a file program.c. Try


gcc -llapack -lm -o program program.c

Usually you don't have to explicitly link the standard C library 
(because it is standard), except the math portions of it (so use the -lm 
switch if you are using math functions from the standard lib).




thanks

francesco pietra



João Luis.


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Linking lapack and C standard library

Hello
May I ask how to correctly link lapack and C standard libraries with
Debian amd64 wheezy?

Packages installed: liblapack3gf liblapack3 libblas3 libc6 libc6-dev
**

The code to compile makes a generic example:

LIBS="-llapack -lstdc++"

thanks

francesco pietra


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Re: newer kernels from experimental?

On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 04:40 -0500, Stan Hoeppner wrote:
> Or, there are a gazillion VM solutions available for precisely this
> purpose.

For testing a FS a virtual machine is fine, but often you need a "real"
install even for playing, that's why I've got a multi-boot with that
many Linux. I'm not maintaining all those installs.

Indeed, regarding to the kind of playing, a multi-boot could be risky,
but usually it isn't, simply keep a backup disconnected from the
computer, not only a copy from one HDD to the other inside your
computer. This should be save enough for home usage, where we usually
have the time to restore from a backup.

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Re: Wheezy amd64 XFCE how to burn Blu-Ray (BD-R )discs?

2013-03-14 Thread Thomas Schmitt

Hi,

being developer of libburn i would like to correct some technical
statements made here.

Gary Dale wrote:

> The difference between Blu-ray and DVD is that DVD is a super CD
> while Blu-ray is a super DVD-RAM.

BD-RE are like DVD-RAM, indeed.
But BD-R aren't. One can format them to a state called Pseudo
Overwrite (POW). But that is an escalation of Defect Management,
which does not work convincingly to my experience.

Writing by a specialized burn program to plain unformatted BD-R
still works best and fastest.

Not all DVD types resemble giant CD. DVD+R and DVD+RW are quite
different. Not to speak of hunchbacked DVD-RAM.

> Your file manager is all the GUI you need to "burn" a BD-R/RE.

This might be true for BD-RE, but not for BD-R.

Nevertheless the random-access performance of BD-RE is weak.
So i would not use them for a read-write filesystem.
ISO 9660 written as stream works fine with them.

My own experiences with writing to UDF on mounted optical
media are repelling: the poor drive makes awful noises and the
extreme expansion of i/o buffers nearly lets the desktop freeze.

So it is preferrable to fill all optical media by a sequential
stream of data rather than by random-access.
E.g. by creating an UDF image on hard disk, mounting it, filling
it with files, unmounting, and then burning it to BD by help of
a burn program.

I am normally using my own command line program xorriso for
burning to BD media (two BD-R and two BD-RE are in daily use).
libburn also serves underneath frontends like Brasero, xfburn,
FlBurn.

If those frontends are not aware of BD media, then their developers
are invited to ask me for advise how to make use of libburn's
capability to handle them.

But first one should give their newest versions a try.

> I can understand CD-R to distinguish it from CD-ROM, but that
> really should be CD-W because both CD-R and CD-ROM are readable.

CD-R means "Compact Disc Recordable".
CD-RW means "Compact Disc ReWritable".

I rather wonder why BD-R is not "BD+R" and BD-RE is not "BD-RAM".
Thechnically these would be the natural names derived from the DVD
nomenclature.

Well, its all about marketing and trademark licenses.

Have a nice day :)

Thomas

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Re: newer kernels from experimental?

2013-03-14 Thread Stan Hoeppner

On 3/13/2013 8:00 PM, Brad Alexander wrote:
...
> play with ...
> features ...like f2fs and btrfs.
...
> I was wondering if anyone is running any of them, and if they are stable
> enough for day-to-day use.

I see a major disconnect here.  Playing with something new is not
day-day use.  You can buy a used box for a couple hundred bucks, or far
less.  Do so, install what you like, and play with it.  It doesn't need
to be stable for day-day, and you can learn something about relatively
new software and its flakiness.

Or, there are a gazillion VM solutions available for precisely this
purpose.  Pick your poison.

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Re: newer kernels from experimental?

On Thu, 2013-03-14 at 03:02 -0500, Mark Allums wrote:
> Some of the 'buntus use 3.4, don't they?

Packages for Quantal are already > 3.4, but it's unstable. However, it
isn't unstable regarding to the kernel. I also build kernels myself for
Ubuntu, it still is buggy as hell. On Arch Linux everything is stable
with 3.7 and 3.6-rt.

In the past I sometimes, very seldom had bad kernels, but most of the
times kernels released by https://www.kernel.org/ were stable. I very
often had unstable versions of distributions installed, but not the
kernel was the reason for the instability. For good reasons I'm not
using Debian at the moment. It's not stable enough for my taste, on my
machine, for my usage and workflow. YMMV.

There always should be a base system, separated from the rest user
space. So if you have a minimal install of what distro ever, this always
should be stable and it usually is.

The short version: If https://www.kernel.org/ says a kernel is stable,
even rt patched kernels, than they most of the times are stable.
Sometimes a new stable rt patched kernel does perform less good, than an
older version, but that doesn't make them unstable.

The advantage of free as in speech *nix OS is, that kernels that are
released as stable usually are stable and that a basic system usually
also is stable.

You can't do anything against cosmic rays from the super nova next door
and you cant provide thousands of user space packages that by any
combination will keep the system stable.


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Re: newer kernels from experimental?

On Wed, 2013-03-13 at 21:00 -0400, Brad Alexander wrote:
> While it isn't quite getting long in the tooth, sid is still sporting
> the 3.2.x kernel. Now as I recall, Greg KH said that this would be the
> next long term support kernel, but I would like to play with some of
> the newer features from the later 3.x kernels from experimental, like
> f2fs and btrfs. I was wondering if anyone is running any of them, and
> if they are stable enough for day-to-day use.

At the moment I'm not using Debian, but I use 3.7 and 3.6-rt kernels.
They are stable.



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Re: newer kernels from experimental?