Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Dave Thayer
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:41:26AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> 
> I set the parameters for this list to text only.
> 
> When part of the email is HTML, Icedove defaults to HTML.
> 
> I now see my error...
> 
> I have to set the format to "preformat" and everything works.

You're almost there, your message is still coming across as html,
"preformat" simply makes html that looks like plaintext. This is
useful when you want to send program code in html, but it doesn't help
the plaintext issue.

Here's an article on how to setup plaintext with thunderbird, and
Icedove should be the same:


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Re: wheezy updates

2013-03-21 Thread Verde Denim
On 03/21/2013 04:39 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Verde Denim wrote:
>> Thanks, Bob. Oracle Java is currently installed in
>> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle (runtime).
>
> How did you install it? Was it installed as a 'deb' file? Or was it
> simply copied into place?
>
> The reason to know if it were installed as a 'deb' file or not is
> because the files are in /usr/lib/jvm which is owned by the system.
> If it is installed as a deb then the system will know this and the
> files handled properly.
>
> But if the files were copied into place outside of the package
> management system then it also won't know to preserve them them. If
> it does not know about them then it might overwrite one without
> knowing it. If it is installed as a deb then the package management
> system will prevent this.
>
> I must ask this question because whenever people appear asking about
> nonfree programs almost invariably it turns out that they simply
> copied the files into place. Why? Because they are nonfree. If it
> were free(dom) software then it is almost always available packaged
> for Debian and can simply be installed. But nonfree(dom) software
> can't be and therefore it is always the nonfree(dom) software that
> people take shortcuts with and get into problems. Sigh.
>
> I should have just asked. Why are you using Oracle Java? Wouldn't it
> be better to use OpenJDK? Then all of these problems disappear.
>
>> I'm actually looking for the jdk but don't see it, so perhaps this
>> isn't installed as of yet. I'm still setting up Eclipse and some
>> other development pieces, so I'll likely install the jdk at some
>> point in the next day or so. I'll keep the final install location
>> in mind.
>
> Okay.
>
>> Would these updates affect the runtime since they are installed in
>> /usr/lib? (In looking at /usr/bin/java, it is linked to
>> /etc/alternatives/java, which is linked to the oracle-7 directory
>> noted here).
>
> If the alternatives point to Oracle Java then I think it likely that
> it was packaged properly and installed that way. What does the
> alternatives say? Here is an example from my machine.
>
> $ update-alternatives --display java
> java - auto mode
> link currently points to
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java - priority 1051
> slave java.1.gz:
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz
> Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java'.
>
> Some time ago I posted this in a discussion about the Debian
> alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are
> used and configured. I think it is still relevant as a description of
> how the Debian alternatives work for you on a system.
>
> http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html
>
> Bob
Bob
Thanks for the reply. I'm looking through the post you linked here now...
Here is the output from update-alt -
$ update-alternatives --display java
java - auto mode
  link currently points to /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java
/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java - priority 1061
  slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-amd64/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java - priority 1064
  slave java.1.gz: /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/man/man1/java.1.gz
Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/bin/java'.

So it would appear that the jvm is set properly from a packaged install
of oracle java. I haven't done the jdk yet - I'll look to this probably
tonight or tomorrow. I'm taking my time setting this box up, since it's
the first debian box I've been working with (it started out as Squeeze
and I did a fresh re-build after I got the new ram and ssd).
(didn't know you could set an alternative to 'manual' and choose _which_
alternatives you wanted to use... very useful info to have!

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Re: Console showing control characters for input on console keyboard

2013-03-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Shane Johnson wrote:
> > I think we'll just have to live with a reset via reboot whenever the
> > > option becomes available, while not removing the PS/2 connections again.
>
> Would a PS2 to USB adapter get you through till reboot?

Uhm...  You misunderstand.  The problem trying to be solved is this one:

francis picabia wrote:
> After some random keys were hit on a KVM, the console
> is showing control characters as the input.
> ...
> It is showing ^R^O^O^T when 'root' is input (like a caps lock
> for control).

Bob


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Re: /var/mail permission change from squeeze to wheezy

2013-03-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Juha Heinanen wrote:
> i noticed that permissions of /var/mail dir have changed from squeeze to
> wheezy.

There has been no change there that I can see.

> in squeeze i have
> 
>  $ ls -lsa
> total 60
>  4 drwxrwsrwt  2 root mail  4096 Mar 21 09:00 .

That is not a stock Squeeze 6 installation.  Nor stock Lenny 5.  That
must have been a local change that you made.

> and in wheezy
> 
>  $ ls -lsa
> total 60
>  4 drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail  4096 Mar 21 09:00 .

That is normal for many versions of Debian.  Probably all of them but
I don't know how far back.  At least to Lenny.  I just looked at an
old Sarge 3.1 system (yes, still running) and the permissions were the
same there too.

I think the permissions on /var/mail are fine.

> the changes causes my emacs vm not being able to remove my emails from
> /var/mail when it has copied them to my local folder.

Ah...  "movemail"  You have modified your system at some time in the
past.  It has been a while since I have use movemail but as I recall
that program has two installation configuration setups.  One is to
make the progam set group id mail.  The other is to open up the mail
spool directory.  It appears you have opened up the mail spool
directory and are using a non-set-gid mail version of movemail.

But if you are using emacs vm then shouldn't you be using the emacs
version of movemail which is set-group-id mail?  I think that is the
root of your problem.

On my system:

  $ ls -l /usr/lib/emacs/*/*/movemail
  -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mail 27152 Sep  8  2012 
/usr/lib/emacs/23.4/x86_64-linux-gnu/movemail
  -rwxr-sr-x 1 root mail 31240 Jan 20 16:07 
/usr/lib/emacs/24.2/x86_64-linux-gnu/movemail

Looks okay to me.  Works for me.

> i don't know if this is a bug or feature and if bug, which package i
> should file a bug report against.

I would file the bug with you that your emacs configuration in your
$HOME/.emacs is incorrectly using the wrong version of movemail. :-)

Try it with 'emacs -q' and see if it works from a stock configuration
without your local modifications.  If so then you know it the problem
is in your .emacs file.

Look in your .emacs for a configuration that is telling it to use the
mailutils version of movemail and not the emacs one.  This might be as
simple as removing the mailutils package.

Bob


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Re: Console showing control characters for input on console keyboard

2013-03-21 Thread Shane Johnson


> I think we'll just have to live with a reset via reboot whenever the
> > option becomes available, while not removing the PS/2 connections again.
>


Would a PS2 to USB adapter get you through till reboot?


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Re: Console showing control characters for input on console keyboard

2013-03-21 Thread Bob Proulx
francis picabia wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> >   reset >/dev/console
> >
> > Although I can't remember if tset or reset operate on stdin like stty
> > does.  You might need to redirect stdin instead.
> >
> >   reset >/dev/console &1 | od -tx1 -c
  000  72  65  73  65  74  3a  20  73  74  61  6e  64  61  72  64
  20
r   e   s   e   t   :   s   t   a   n   d   a   r   d
  020  65  72  72  6f  72  3a  20  49  6e  76  61  6c  69  64  20
  61
e   r   r   o   r   :   I   n   v   a   l   I   d   a
  040  72  67  75  6d  65  6e  74  0a  0a
r   g   u   m   e   n   t  \n  \n

  $ reset 2>&1 | cat
  reset: standard error: Invalid argument

So it only operates if fd 2 stderr is a tty device and not a pipe.  It
must be calling ioctl(2) calls upon fd 2.

> Thanks for the ideas.  I've tried both, with /dev/tty1 and /dev/console
> but it didn't change anything.  reset seemed to affect the ssh session,
> not the tty so it seems the I/O redirection doesn't do anything there.

I didn't suggest agressive enough redirection because I wasn't
thinking about stderr.  Try one more experiment redirecting stderr
too.  (But if your inittab experiment didn't work then this probably
won't either.)

  reset >/dev/console 2>&1  Another idea I tried was to insert the reset and stty sane
> commands into the inittab:
> 
> 6:23:respawn:/bin/stty sane;/usr/bin/reset;/sbin/getty 38400 tty6
> 
> and kill the getty running on tty6.  It made no difference when
> testing on VT6 after this.

Clever!

> I think we'll just have to live with a reset via reboot whenever the
> option becomes available, while not removing the PS/2 connections again.

Or perhaps turn on the serial port and use it for a serial console. :-)
Of course that will need a reboot as well in order to tell the kernel
about the different console device.  (console=ttyS0,9600n8)

Good luck!

Bob


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Re: First bugg with Debian

2013-03-21 Thread Alex Padoly
Hi,

You are understand!
Thanks!

2013/3/21 Darac Marjal 

> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 07:15:49AM +0100, Alex Padoly wrote:
> >Hello,
> >
> >I always use DEBIAN GNU LINUX and I have never had a kernel panic.
> >With Wheezy on FUJITSU-SIEMENS SCENIC E300, several times, the system
> is
> >frozen, I must turn off my computer.
> >Now, I don't turn on my computer because at the begining of boot I
> read
> >''Kernel panic''.
> >I used this Wheezy on server rack Intel, no problem, no buggs!
> >
> >Does it exist a bugg with the FUJITSU-SIEMENS SCENIC E300 computer.
> >I can't install xubuntu on this computer because there was a ''kernel
> >panic'' at the begining of the boot!
>
> This sounds like a hardware problem to me.
>
> If I understand you correctly:
>  * Your computer has frozen several times
>  * After one of these freezes, both the installed Debian Wheezy AND a
>Xubuntu installer stop with "kernel panic".
>
> I would suggest trying to run some diagnostics on your computer. Perhaps
> you have bad RAM (try Memtest86) or a bad power supply.
>
> >
> >Thanks for your help.
> >Alex PADOLY
>


Re: wheezy updates

2013-03-21 Thread Bob Proulx
Verde Denim wrote:
> Thanks, Bob. Oracle Java is currently installed in
> /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle (runtime).

How did you install it?  Was it installed as a 'deb' file?  Or was it
simply copied into place?

The reason to know if it were installed as a 'deb' file or not is
because the files are in /usr/lib/jvm which is owned by the system.
If it is installed as a deb then the system will know this and the
files handled properly.

But if the files were copied into place outside of the package
management system then it also won't know to preserve them them.  If
it does not know about them then it might overwrite one without
knowing it.  If it is installed as a deb then the package management
system will prevent this.

I must ask this question because whenever people appear asking about
nonfree programs almost invariably it turns out that they simply
copied the files into place.  Why?  Because they are nonfree.  If it
were free(dom) software then it is almost always available packaged
for Debian and can simply be installed.  But nonfree(dom) software
can't be and therefore it is always the nonfree(dom) software that
people take shortcuts with and get into problems.  Sigh.

I should have just asked.  Why are you using Oracle Java?  Wouldn't it
be better to use OpenJDK?  Then all of these problems disappear.

> I'm actually looking for the jdk but don't see it, so perhaps this
> isn't installed as of yet. I'm still setting up Eclipse and some
> other development pieces, so I'll likely install the jdk at some
> point in the next day or so.  I'll keep the final install location
> in mind.

Okay.

> Would these updates affect the runtime since they are installed in
> /usr/lib? (In looking at /usr/bin/java, it is linked to
> /etc/alternatives/java, which is linked to the oracle-7 directory
> noted here).

If the alternatives point to Oracle Java then I think it likely that
it was packaged properly and installed that way.  What does the
alternatives say?  Here is an example from my machine.

  $ update-alternatives --display java
  java - auto mode
link currently points to
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java
  /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java - priority 1051
slave java.1.gz:
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/man/man1/java.1.gz
  Current 'best' version is '/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-openjdk-amd64/jre/bin/java'.

Some time ago I posted this in a discussion about the Debian
alternatives and it includes a walkthrough of how alternatives are
used and configured.  I think it is still relevant as a description of
how the Debian alternatives work for you on a system.

  http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2002/08/msg02808.html

Bob


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pkg-config not returning correct version number - help please

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Fisichella
Hi,

I did something to cause pkg-config to not return the correct version number. I 
issue:

$ pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig >= 2.10.91'
Requested 'fontconfig >= 2.10.91' but version of Fontconfig is 2.10.2

This is after I (believe I) successfully installed from sources  
fontconfig-2.10.91 .

When I look in the directories where pkg-config is supposed to look, I find
/usr/lib/pkgconfig$ cat fontconfig.pc
prefix=/usr
exec_prefix=${prefix}
libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
includedir=${prefix}/include
sysconfdir=/etc
localstatedir=${prefix}/var
PACKAGE=fontconfig
confdir=${sysconfdir}/fonts
cachedir=${localstatedir}/cache/${PACKAGE}

Name: Fontconfig
Description: Font configuration and customization library
Version: 2.10.91
Libs: -L${libdir} -lfontconfig
Libs.private:  -lexpat -lfreetype   
Cflags: -I${includedir}

Version 2.10.2 is a tar ball I installed earlier. As it turns out, I need 
2.10.91, so I installed that tar ball.

If 2.10.91 is in this file, should pkg-config return that? Is there a way to 
get pkg-config in-sync with what is in the /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory? I 
tried rebooting, but that did not help.

Thanks,
Chris



Re: wheezy updates

2013-03-21 Thread Verde Denim
On 03/20/2013 06:22 PM, Bob Proulx wrote:
> Verde Denim wrote:
>> I have a long list of updates today for Wheezy. I was wondering - since
>> I am using Oracle Java on this particular machine, would it interfere
>> with this config to install the updates to OpenJDK and IcedTea? (I'm
>> wondering if the current config using Oracle Java would get
overwritten)...
>
> You are asking a question that probably only you know. It depends
> upon where you installed Oracle Java. For example, anything that you
> install in /usr/local is always yours and safe from any system
> upgrade. In my opinion I would never smash over system files with
> locally installed files because of just this reason. (But people do
> it all of the time anyway.)
>
> Where did you install your local installation of Oracle Java? Did you
> install it in /usr/local? Did you install it in /home? If so then
> you are safe. /usr/local is always safe.
>
> Bob
Thanks, Bob. Oracle Java is currently installed in
/usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle (runtime). I'm actually looking for the jdk
but don't see it, so perhaps this isn't installed as of yet. I'm still
setting up Eclipse and some other development pieces, so I'll likely
install the jdk at some point in the next day or so. I'll keep the final
install location in mind. Would these updates affect the runtime since
they are installed in /usr/lib? (In looking at /usr/bin/java, it is
linked to /etc/alternatives/java, which is linked to the oracle-7
directory noted here).

Thanks

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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Angelakis
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 05:15:10PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 18:10 +0200, Chris Angelakis wrote:
> > packagekit
> 
> There are several GUIs, at least in the past there were tons of GUIs,
> but AFAIK Synaptic is the best maintained GUI. On Debian/Debian like
> distros I'm using synaptic myself + for some tasks apt and dpkg. I avoid
> using aptitude and other GUIs than Synaptic.

I totally agree with you on that. Just had the impression that the OP 
tries to find an "add/remove applications" software through synaptic
and I think packagekit offers that kind of interface-language.


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Xorg lose mouse middle button emulation.

2013-03-21 Thread giorgio_mldeb
Hello,

Recently I installed debian testing (7.0 Wheezy) to substitute debian
6.0 (stable).

 With new installation, Xorg lose touchpad 3 button (central) emulation
(on MSI U100 touchpad sentelic). It happens everytime I suspend/resume
or if I switch to virtual terminal (Ctrl+alt+Fn) and return to Xorg
(Ctrl+alt+F7).

With debian 6.0 never happened.

I used gpointing-device-settings for setting emulation. For recovery
mouse setting in fast way I use:

 xinput set-prop "FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad" "Evdev Middle
Button Emulation" 1
xinput set-prop "FSPPS/2 Sentelic FingerSensingPad" "Evdev Middle Button
Timeout" 100

Note: Big problem of sentelic touchpad is the timeout for emulate
central button, default is too small and you can't press buttons at same
time in time (it is indispensable set timeout to >100).

Thank You.



Re: SSDT - Any More Ideas

2013-03-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Dear List -

I am going to be on vacation until 3 April.

We'll continue this thread then.

Ethan


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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 18:10 +0200, Chris Angelakis wrote:
> packagekit

There are several GUIs, at least in the past there were tons of GUIs,
but AFAIK Synaptic is the best maintained GUI. On Debian/Debian like
distros I'm using synaptic myself + for some tasks apt and dpkg. I avoid
using aptitude and other GUIs than Synaptic.



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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread Chris Angelakis
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 04:59:44PM +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:57 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:54 +0100, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
> > > su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic -> In Terminal
> > 
> > # su -
>   $ su -
> 
>   :D
> > # apt-get update
> > # apt-get install synaptic
> > # synaptic 

Maybe 'packagekit' is the software he's looking after.


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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:57 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:54 +0100, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
> > su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic -> In Terminal
> 
> # su -
  $ su -

  :D
> # apt-get update
> # apt-get install synaptic
> # synaptic
> 
> 
> 



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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 16:54 +0100, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote:
> su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic -> In Terminal

# su -
# apt-get update
# apt-get install synaptic
# synaptic



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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread Gábor Hársfalvi
su-to-root -X -c /usr/sbin/synaptic -> In Terminal

Good Luck


2013/3/21 lina 

> On Thursday 21,March,2013 10:54 PM, s...@mdselectronics.com wrote:
> > I have installed Debian on my computer, but there is no "add/remove
> > applications" like on a different computer with Debian on it that I have.
> > How do I install it? (I have tried synaptic and I can't find it)
> >
> >   Sam F.
> >
> >
>
> aptitude search packagename
>
> aptitude install packagename
>
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PPPoE Server Problem

2013-03-21 Thread Pietro Paolini

Hello all,

I really don't understand what is wrong in my PPP setup. These are my 
configuration file:


pppoe-server-config :

# PPP options for the PPPoE server
# LIC: GPL
require-pap
debug
logfile /var/log/pppoe-server.log
#auth
#require-chap
lcp-echo-interval 10
lcp-echo-failure 4
ms-dns 8.8.8.8
ms-dns 8.8.4.4
netmask 255.255.255.0
defaultroute
noipdefault
usepeerdns


 What is wrong is that the Session is estabilished  (PADS) and closed 
immediately (PADT), this is my log :


Mar 21 16:31:36 lab pppoe-server[6516]: Session 1 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.2) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:31:36 lab pppoe-server[6475]: Session 1 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.2) on eth0.20

Mar 21 16:31:36 lab pppoe-server[6475]: Sent PADT
Mar 21 16:31:40 lab pppoe-server[6475]: Terminating on signal 15 -- 
killing all PPPoE sessions
Mar 21 16:31:40 lab pppoe-server[6519]: Terminating on signal 15 -- 
killing all PPPoE sessions
Mar 21 16:32:36 lab pppoe-server[6527]: Session 1 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.2) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:32:36 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Session 1 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.2) on eth0.20

Mar 21 16:32:36 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Sent PADT
Mar 21 16:33:37 lab pppoe-server[6528]: Session 2 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.3) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:33:37 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Session 2 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.3) on eth0.20

Mar 21 16:33:37 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Sent PADT
Mar 21 16:34:37 lab pppoe-server[6529]: Session 3 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.4) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:34:37 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Session 3 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.4) on eth0.20

Mar 21 16:34:37 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Sent PADT
Mar 21 16:35:37 lab pppoe-server[6532]: Session 4 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.5) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:35:37 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Session 4 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.5) on eth0.20

Mar 21 16:35:37 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Sent PADT
Mar 21 16:36:38 lab pppoe-server[6534]: Session 5 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.6) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:36:38 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Session 5 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.6) on eth0.20

Mar 21 16:36:38 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Sent PADT
Mar 21 16:37:10 lab pppoe-server[6523]: Terminating on signal 15 -- 
killing all PPPoE sessions
Mar 21 16:37:38 lab pppoe-server[6550]: Session 1 created for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.2) on eth0.20 using Service-Name 'qacafe'
Mar 21 16:37:38 lab pppoe-server[6549]: Session 1 closed for client 
00:0f:94:20:4a:c0 (10.0.0.2) on eth0.20



In this website I read that there is a bug in the pppd bug I ask for a 
confirm :


http://forums.fedoraforum.org/archive/index.php/t-104060.html

My Ubuntu system runs  a version of the ppp packet 2.4.5 but, again, I 
am not able to perform a downgrade because I can't see through 
apt-cache showpkg ppp

any older versions.

Any help will be really appreciated.

Pietro Paolini
pulsarpie...@aol.com


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xserver problem: what should populate /dev/dri ?

2013-03-21 Thread C G Montgomery
I recently upgraded a Debian box from oldstable (Lenny) to stable 
(squeeze) and then to testing (wheezy).  The various APT utilities are 
satisfied that dependencies are satisfied.  But the xserver got broken in 
the process -- not a big surprise.

When I ty running xinit (as root) with no xorg.conf file present in 
/etc/X11 the ending lines of the Xorg.0.log file are as follows:

[ 91799.286] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[ 91799.292] drmOpenByBusid: Searching for BusID pci::02:00.0
[ 91799.292] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[ 91799.296] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
[ 91799.296] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1
[ 91799.300] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
... same for card2 through card14 ...
[ 91799.350] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card15
[ 91799.354] drmOpenByBusid: drmOpenMinor returns -1
[ 91799.354] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[ 91799.359] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[ 91799.363] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card1
... same for card2 through card14 ...
[ 91799.417] drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card15
[ 91799.421] (EE) [drm] failed to open device
[ 91799.421] vesa: Ignoring device with a bound kernel driver
[ 91799.421] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for vesa
[ 91799.421] (II) Loading sub module "fbdevhw"
[ 91799.421] (II) LoadModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 91799.421] (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/libfbdevhw.so
[ 91799.421] (II) Module fbdevhw: vendor="X.Org Foundation"
[ 91799.421]compiled for 1.12.4, module version = 0.0.2
[ 91799.421]ABI class: X.Org Video Driver, version 12.1
[ 91799.421] (EE) open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory
[ 91799.421] (WW) Falling back to old probe method for fbdev
[ 91799.421] (II) UnloadModule: "vesa"
[ 91799.421] (II) UnloadModule: "fbdev"
[ 91799.421] (II) UnloadSubModule: "fbdevhw"
[ 91799.421] (EE) Screen(s) found, but none have a usable configuration.
[ 91799.421] 
Fatal server error:
[ 91799.421] no screens found
[ 91799.421] 
Please consult the The X.Org Foundation support 
 at http://wiki.x.org
 for help. 
[ 91799.421] Please also check the log file at "/var/log/Xorg.0.log" for 
additional information.
[ 91799.421] 
[ 91799.438] Server terminated with error (1). Closing log file.

There is no /dev/dri in /dev.  That seems to be at least a part of my 
problems.  On a different box running testing (with a different graphics 
card) there are files in /dev/dri.

Should I try reinstalling some package(s)?  Any other suggestions?
Please let me know if additional information would be useful.

TIA   cgm


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Re: problem

2013-03-21 Thread lina
On Thursday 21,March,2013 10:54 PM, s...@mdselectronics.com wrote:
> I have installed Debian on my computer, but there is no "add/remove
> applications" like on a different computer with Debian on it that I have.
> How do I install it? (I have tried synaptic and I can't find it)
> 
>   Sam F.
> 
> 

aptitude search packagename

aptitude install packagename


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problem

2013-03-21 Thread s...@mdselectronics.com
I have installed Debian on my computer, but there is no "add/remove 
applications" like on a different computer with Debian on it that I have.

How do I install it? (I have tried synaptic and I can't find it)

  Sam F.


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Re: SSDT - Any More Ideas

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 10:44 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> Dear List -
> 
> Copied the executable to the usb stick and can't find it -
> 
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# cp ../Downloads/D630_A18.exe /dev/sdf1
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf1
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf1
> brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 81 Mar 21 10:29 /dev/sdf1
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# fdisk -l  D630_A18.exe
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil#
> 
> Where is my mistake?

ls -lA /montpoint_of_the_stick

[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# ls /dev/sdc1
/dev/sdc1
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# ls /mnt
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# touch /mnt/test.txt
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# ls /dev/sdc1
/dev/sdc1
[root@archlinux rocketmouse]# ls /mnt
test.txt


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Re: SSDT - Any More Ideas

2013-03-21 Thread Gary Dale

On 21/03/13 10:44 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Dear List -

Copied the executable to the usb stick and can't find it -

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# cp ../Downloads/D630_A18.exe /dev/sdf1
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf1
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf1
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 81 Mar 21 10:29 /dev/sdf1
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# fdisk -l  D630_A18.exe
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil#

Where is my mistake?

Ethan

You have probably wiped out the boot programs on /dev/sdf1. Go back to 
the start and follow the advice I gave you on my previous e-mail re. 
mounting.



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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Gary Dale

On 21/03/13 10:00 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

On 03/21/2013 07:19 AM, Brian wrote:

I don't really know where you are coming from and what you want to
achieve because I tend to delete list mails in HTML only on sight.
Nothing personal, you understand - just pure laziness on my part :)

However, believe it or not, you are nearly there!

On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 00:20:39 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


 
 I'm doing something wrong and can’t figure it out.
 
 
 Downloaded and unzipped -
 rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -lh
 total 32M
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  31M Mar 21 00:02 FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
 -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115K Mar 21 00:02

Agreed.


 FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img.bz2
 
 Attempt dd -
 rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
 of=/media/usbstick/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

   ^^^
   ^
   ^
   This is your error. The image should be written to the device,
   which is /dev/sdf in your case.

 dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf

   Or

cat if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img>  /dev/sdf

I usually check the image is an isohybrid one which can be written to a
USB stick with dd or cat.

brian@desktop:~$ /sbin/fdisk -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

Disk FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img: 32 MB, 32505856 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 31 cylinders, total 63488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id   
System
FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 
FAT16 (LBA

That's ok. The image contains a filesystem.


Brian -

Thanks.

Here is what I tried.

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Mar 21 01:15 /dev/sdf
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd 
if=/home/ethan/DOSutil/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 10.2578 s, 3.2 MB/s

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls /dev/sdf
/dev/sdf

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Mar 21 01:16 /dev/sdf

I am still TOTALLY CONFUSED.

Ethan

PS Again, my apologies for the HTML posts. It was not intentional.
===

OK found the file.

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# fdisk -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

Disk FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img: 32 MB, 32505856 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 31 cylinders, total 63488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 
FAT16 (LBA)

I did not realize that fdisk -l  would find a file.

Now I copy the Bios executable to the usb stick and boot the laptop??

Ethan


You previous problem was that /dev/sdf is a file representing a device. 
You need to mount the device in order to see what files it contains. You 
also need to do this to copy the files to it.


try:
 mount -t vfat /dev/sdf1 /media/usbstick
 cp  /media/usbstick
 cp  /media/usbstick

Note that /media/usbstick needs to exist. Also you should be root to do 
this (try su or sudo bash).





Re: SSDT - Any More Ideas

2013-03-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

Dear List -

Copied the executable to the usb stick and can't find it -

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# cp ../Downloads/D630_A18.exe /dev/sdf1
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf1
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf1
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 81 Mar 21 10:29 /dev/sdf1
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# fdisk -l  D630_A18.exe
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil#

Where is my mistake?

Ethan


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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 10:05 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> 1] What is a MUA?
> 
> 2] Other than the HTML, am I posting "good questions"?
> 
> Ethan

Oops, I don't get duplicates, but the mails are sorted to a wrong folder
here. Please only reply to the list.

MUA is for Mail User Agent, in other words it's your mail client, aka
mailer.

lmgtfy.com/?q=wiki+mua

You're questions are ok, but stop replying in HTML and trim your posts.
If somebody needs to read the whole thread, there still is the mailing
list archive.



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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 15:15 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> lmgtfy.com/?q=wiki+mua

http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=wiki+mua



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pppoe-server

2013-03-21 Thread Pietro Paolini
Hello all,
I installed successfully the roar-penguin pppoe-server and I try to use it 
without success, what I don't understand
is that I put in my /etc/ppp/pppoe-server-options 
debug
logfile /var/log/pppoe-server-log

But that file is not created then I don't understand what happen and is really 
hard for me find a solution, do you know
how can I enable the debugging ???!!!

My problem is that I catch every time (Wireshark sniffing) the 

RP-PPPoE: Child pppd process terminated

In the PADT message, any help ?

Thanks in advance

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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 09:51 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> PS Again, my apologies for the HTML posts. It was not intentional.

But you still continue ;).

Unexperienced people are allowed to continue for a while and
intellectually disabled users should be allowed to do it always.

"PhD" IMO indicates that you are unexperienced, but able to learn. So
after a while there's no excuse to continue doing it.


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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

  
  
On 03/21/2013 09:54 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

  On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 08:34 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:

  
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:17:14 +0100
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:



  Others and I asked Ethan several times not to post HTML and send mails
to the list only.


Sending email after being requested not to is spamming.  Report it to
his ISP.

That /might/ work.

  
  No, I guess Ethan does it still "unknowingly" and I said, that he needs
not to care too much about it right now, so I share of the blame
regarding to the Cc'ing.

HTML is another issue, Ethan first didn't understand how to write plain
text, but until he was aware how to disable HTML, continuing should have
stopped, but even here I suspect a lack of knowledge. Perhaps Ethan
replied to HTML and then the MUA automatically switched from plain text
to HTML.

I _was_ pissed off, but calmed down. If Ethan writes around 10 mails in
HTML or by Cc'ing it's ok. If it should be more than 10 additional
mails, I'll filter mails from Ethan by my MUA.

Spamming is something different. Spamming is done with a bad intension,
Ethan seems to be unexperienced with computers or at least with MUAs.

So for me it's ok, no hard feelings. But I expect that Ethan and others
understand that I was a little bit annoyed.


Brian -

Thanks.

I understand that you were very angry.  It is understandable. No hard feelings at this end.

Two questions.

1] What is a MUA?

2] Other than the HTML, am I posting "good questions"?

Ethan

  



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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

  
  
On 03/21/2013 07:19 AM, Brian wrote:

  I don't really know where you are coming from and what you want to
achieve because I tend to delete list mails in HTML only on sight.
Nothing personal, you understand - just pure laziness on my part :)

However, believe it or not, you are nearly there!

On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 00:20:39 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


  

I'm doing something wrong and can’t figure it out.


Downloaded and unzipped -
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -lh
total 32M
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  31M Mar 21 00:02 FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115K Mar 21 00:02

  
  Agreed.


  
FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img.bz2

Attempt dd -
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
of=/media/usbstick/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

  
^^^
  ^
  ^
  This is your error. The image should be written to the device,
  which is /dev/sdf in your case.

dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf

  Or

	cat if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img > /dev/sdf

I usually check the image is an isohybrid one which can be written to a
USB stick with dd or cat.

   brian@desktop:~$ /sbin/fdisk -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

   Disk FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img: 32 MB, 32505856 bytes
   64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 31 cylinders, total 63488 sectors
   Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
   Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
   I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
   Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id   System
   FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 FAT16 (LBA

That's ok. The image contains a filesystem.



Brian -

Thanks.

Here is what I tried.

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Mar 21 01:15 /dev/sdf
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd if=/home/ethan/DOSutil/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 10.2578 s, 3.2 MB/s

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls /dev/sdf
/dev/sdf

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Mar 21 01:16 /dev/sdf

I am still TOTALLY CONFUSED.

Ethan

PS Again, my apologies for the HTML posts. It was not intentional.
===

OK found the file.  

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# fdisk -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

Disk FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img: 32 MB, 32505856 bytes
64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 31 cylinders, total 63488 sectors
Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

   Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 FAT16 (LBA)

I did not realize that fdisk -l  would find a file.

Now I copy the Bios executable to the usb stick and boot the laptop??

Ethan



  



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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 08:34 -0500, Cybe R. Wizard wrote:
> On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:17:14 +0100
> Ralf Mardorf  wrote:
> 
> > Others and I asked Ethan several times not to post HTML and send mails
> > to the list only.
> 
> Sending email after being requested not to is spamming.  Report it to
> his ISP.
> 
> That /might/ work.

No, I guess Ethan does it still "unknowingly" and I said, that he needs
not to care too much about it right now, so I share of the blame
regarding to the Cc'ing.

HTML is another issue, Ethan first didn't understand how to write plain
text, but until he was aware how to disable HTML, continuing should have
stopped, but even here I suspect a lack of knowledge. Perhaps Ethan
replied to HTML and then the MUA automatically switched from plain text
to HTML.

I _was_ pissed off, but calmed down. If Ethan writes around 10 mails in
HTML or by Cc'ing it's ok. If it should be more than 10 additional
mails, I'll filter mails from Ethan by my MUA.

Spamming is something different. Spamming is done with a bad intension,
Ethan seems to be unexperienced with computers or at least with MUAs.

So for me it's ok, no hard feelings. But I expect that Ethan and others
understand that I was a little bit annoyed.


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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

  
  


Ethan
Rosenberg, PhD
Pres/CEO
Hygeia Biomedical Research, Inc

  2 Cameo Ridge Road
  Monsey, NY 10952
  T: 845 352-3908
  F: 845 352-7566
  erosenb...@hygeiabiomedical.com


On 03/21/2013 07:19 AM, Brian wrote:

  I don't really know where you are coming from and what you want to
achieve because I tend to delete list mails in HTML only on sight.
Nothing personal, you understand - just pure laziness on my part :)

However, believe it or not, you are nearly there!

On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 00:20:39 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:


  

I'm doing something wrong and can’t figure it out.


Downloaded and unzipped -
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -lh
total 32M
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  31M Mar 21 00:02 FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115K Mar 21 00:02

  
  Agreed.


  
FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img.bz2

Attempt dd -
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
of=/media/usbstick/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

  
^^^
  ^
  ^
  This is your error. The image should be written to the device,
  which is /dev/sdf in your case.

dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf

  Or

	cat if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img > /dev/sdf

I usually check the image is an isohybrid one which can be written to a
USB stick with dd or cat.

   brian@desktop:~$ /sbin/fdisk -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

   Disk FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img: 32 MB, 32505856 bytes
   64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 31 cylinders, total 63488 sectors
   Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
   Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
   I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
   Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id   System
   FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 FAT16 (LBA

That's ok. The image contains a filesystem.



Brian -

Thanks.

Here is what I tried.

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Mar 21 01:15 /dev/sdf
rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd if=/home/ethan/DOSutil/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf
63488+0 records in
63488+0 records out
32505856 bytes (33 MB) copied, 10.2578 s, 3.2 MB/s

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls /dev/sdf
/dev/sdf

rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -la /dev/sdf
brw-rw---T 1 root floppy 8, 80 Mar 21 01:16 /dev/sdf

I am still TOTALLY CONFUSED.

Ethan

PS Again, my apologies for the HTML posts. It was not intentional.

  



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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ethan Rosenberg, PhD

  
  
On 03/21/2013 08:17 AM, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

  On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 13:03 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

  
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 11:28 +, Brian wrote:


  You have the opportunity to learn how to from posts in this thread. :)


What's wrong with my posting style?

  
  PS:

On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 21:53 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

  
I can't help you with this, perhaps somebody else does know how to
continue


  
  Others and I asked Ethan several times not to post HTML and send mails
to the list only. When I received again duplicated mails in my private
mail and Debian list mail folders, formatted in HTML, after mentioning
that I can't help and I anyway try to help, by googling for Ethan, than
I don't understand what's bad with my mail.




My apologies.

I set the parameters for this list to text only.

When part of the email is HTML, Icedove defaults to HTML.

I now see my error...

I have to set the format to "preformat" and everything works.

Again, my apologies.

Ethan

  



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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Cybe R. Wizard
On Thu, 21 Mar 2013 13:17:14 +0100
Ralf Mardorf  wrote:

> Others and I asked Ethan several times not to post HTML and send mails
> to the list only.

Sending email after being requested not to is spamming.  Report it to
his ISP.

That /might/ work.

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Re: Console showing control characters for input on console keyboard

2013-03-21 Thread francis picabia
On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 7:30 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:
> francis picabia wrote:
>> reset won't work as I cannot login to the tty.
>>
>> If there is a way to direct the reset to another tty
>> or tset has a way to do that it could help because only
>> ssh logins are working.
>
> You said you can log in with ssh.  Log in with ssh and then redirect
> the output to the console as root.
>
>   reset >/dev/console
>
> Although I can't remember if tset or reset operate on stdin like stty
> does.  You might need to redirect stdin instead.
>
>   reset >/dev/console 
> Also there is stty.  I sometimes have used it to reset terminals.  Use
> the -g option to dump the full terminal settings in an encoded way and
> then load them back in to the terminal.  Note that stty uses stdin by
> default but can be specified explicitly with the -F option.
>
>   stty -F /dev/console $(stty -g)
>
> But perhaps more easily understood by walking through this sequence:
>   stty -g
>   stty -g > /tmp/stty-g.good.out
>   stty $(cat /tmp/stty-g.good.out) < /dev/console
>
> Bob

Thanks for the ideas.  I've tried both, with /dev/tty1 and /dev/console
but it didn't change anything.  reset seemed to affect the ssh session,
not the tty so it seems the I/O redirection doesn't do anything there.

Another idea I tried was to insert the reset and stty sane
commands into the inittab:

6:23:respawn:/bin/stty sane;/usr/bin/reset;/sbin/getty 38400 tty6

and kill the getty running on tty6.  It made no difference when
testing on VT6 after this.

I think we'll just have to live with a reset via reboot whenever the
option becomes available, while not removing the PS/2 connections again.


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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 12:28 +, Brian wrote:
> On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 13:03:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> 
> > On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 11:28 +, Brian wrote:
> > > You have the opportunity to learn how to from posts in this thread. :)
> > 
> > What's wrong with my posting style?
> 
> You are misunderstanding me. Style is not something I'm generally given
> to commenting on.
> 
> You said you didn't know how to make a bootable DOS stick. I was hinting
> that there are posts in this thread which would help you gain that
> expertise.

My apologies, I read "how to form posts" instead of "how to from posts".
Dyslexia and because I was still a little bit annoyed by Ethan's mails I
didn't read carefully enough.



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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 13:03:30 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 11:28 +, Brian wrote:
> > You have the opportunity to learn how to from posts in this thread. :)
> 
> What's wrong with my posting style?

You are misunderstanding me. Style is not something I'm generally given
to commenting on.

You said you didn't know how to make a bootable DOS stick. I was hinting
that there are posts in this thread which would help you gain that
expertise.


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Re: /var/mail permission change from squeeze to wheezy

2013-03-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 09:59:15 +0200, Juha Heinanen wrote:

> i noticed that permissions of /var/mail dir have changed from squeeze to
> wheezy.
> 
> in squeeze i have
> 
>  $ ls -lsa
> total 60
>  4 drwxrwsrwt  2 root mail  4096 Mar 21 09:00 .

On a new 6.0.7-i386 installation with only the base system and no other
packages the permissions are drwxrwsr-x. This fits what is said in
section 11.6 at

   http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-customized-programs.html


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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 13:03 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 11:28 +, Brian wrote:
> > You have the opportunity to learn how to from posts in this thread. :)
> 
> What's wrong with my posting style?

PS:

On Sun, 2013-03-17 at 21:53 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> I can't help you with this, perhaps somebody else does know how to
> continue
> 
Others and I asked Ethan several times not to post HTML and send mails
to the list only. When I received again duplicated mails in my private
mail and Debian list mail folders, formatted in HTML, after mentioning
that I can't help and I anyway try to help, by googling for Ethan, than
I don't understand what's bad with my mail.


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Re: EU Regulation and gvfs

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
Oops, I forgot the link to a German Linux forum:

https://bbs.archlinux.de/viewtopic.php?pid=301320#p301320


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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 11:28 +, Brian wrote:
> You have the opportunity to learn how to from posts in this thread. :)

What's wrong with my posting style?



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Re: EU Regulation and gvfs

2013-03-21 Thread Ralf Mardorf
On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 06:01 -0500, Selim T. Erdogan wrote:
> Another workaround, perhaps:  I remember noticing something for this on 
> the hdparm man page.  Checking again now, I see that the -J option is 
> for setting WD Green drives' "idle3" timeout value.  It mentions that 
> you can even disable it completely.  Maybe it'll work for your drive 
> too...

Thank you Selim :)

I already know it, since it's mentioned at

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Advanced_Format#Disable_via_hdparm

but when idle3ctl, also mentioned on this page, didn't work, I decided
to remove the gvfs crap. If GNOME and Xfce Thunar developers don't care
about EU regulations, then they are idiots. I don't agree myself with
all EU regulations, but if a drive spins down after 30 minutes, it's a
valide value. There's no need for gvfs to touch the drive.

However for some usage I prefer the drive never to spin down, so I will
test hdparm, when I need it. At the moment I run a script that touchs
the drives in intervals, to avoid a spin down, when I don't want it to
spin down, but most of the times I prefer the energy saving mode, that
works as wanted, if gvsf is removed.

http://mail.xfce.org/pipermail/thunar-dev/2013-March/004973.html

For those understanding German, even people who don't have this WD issue
don't like gvsf.

GNOME and if Xfce does follow GNOME simply is crap. I'm still using Xfce
and GNOME apps myself, but I'm pissed off and  stop reporting bugs,
neither to maintainers, nor to upstream, excepted of bugs for audio
production apps, since they do care about real live.

Regards,
Ralf


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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Brian
On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 07:36:09 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:

> - it might be that you have overwritten the MBR of your USB stick, if
>   so, the partition table now is destroyed and you first might need to
>   format it before you can continue ...

Overwriting the MBR is the whole point of getting a bootable USB device
when dd'ing or cat'ing an isohybrid to a USB stick. Any formatting which
is done beforehand will be completely undone by the writing process.

> ... I don't know, since I don't know how to make a bootable DOS stick

You have the opportunity to learn how to from posts in this thread. :)

> http://tuxtweaks.com/2009/09/create-a-bootable-freedos-usb-drive-on-linux-with-unetbootin/

UNetbootin might be a fine progam but using it to write an isohybrid to
a USB device is using yesterday's technology.


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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

2013-03-21 Thread Brian
I don't really know where you are coming from and what you want to
achieve because I tend to delete list mails in HTML only on sight.
Nothing personal, you understand - just pure laziness on my part :)

However, believe it or not, you are nearly there!

On Thu 21 Mar 2013 at 00:20:39 -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

> 
> I'm doing something wrong and can’t figure it out.
> 
> 
> Downloaded and unzipped -
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# ls -lh
> total 32M
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root  31M Mar 21 00:02 FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
> -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 115K Mar 21 00:02

Agreed.

> FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img.bz2
> 
> Attempt dd -
> rosenberg:/home/ethan/DOSutil# dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
> of=/media/usbstick/FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img
  ^^^
  ^
  ^
  This is your error. The image should be written to the device,
  which is /dev/sdf in your case.

dd if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img of=/dev/sdf

  Or

cat if=FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img > /dev/sdf

I usually check the image is an isohybrid one which can be written to a
USB stick with dd or cat.

   brian@desktop:~$ /sbin/fdisk -l FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img

   Disk FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img: 32 MB, 32505856 bytes
   64 heads, 32 sectors/track, 31 cylinders, total 63488 sectors
   Units = sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
   Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
   I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
   Disk identifier: 0x00077d8f

  Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id   
System
   FreeDOS-1.1-USB-Boot.img1   *  32   63487   31728e  W95 
FAT16 (LBA

That's ok. The image contains a filesystem.


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Re: EU Regulation and gvfs

2013-03-21 Thread Selim T. Erdogan
Ralf Mardorf, 19.03.2013:
> Hi,
> 
> there's an issue with gvfs.
> 
> Regarding to an EU Regulation external drives must spin down after a
> while, but gvfs make external drives spin up and down again and again so
> they don't stay asleep.
> 
> I own a new WD Elements and within one week it aged by years.
> 
> I marked a thread about this issue as solved, but it isn't, it's just a
> workaround. For some drives it's possible to disable it, but for drives
> where you can't open the case it can be impossible to do it.

Another workaround, perhaps:  I remember noticing something for this on 
the hdparm man page.  Checking again now, I see that the -J option is 
for setting WD Green drives' "idle3" timeout value.  It mentions that 
you can even disable it completely.  Maybe it'll work for your drive 
too...

Selim

> One way to safe lifetime then is to touch the drive in short intervals,
> to avoid a spin down and the other way is to remove gvfs and to mount
> block devices, not only USB devices, by a workaround.
> 
> Other USB gear, but block devices, don't need gvfs, such as WiFi
> adapters.
> 
> Since I'm short in time at the moment, I only tested Arch Linux and
> Ubuntu Linux intensively [1].
> 
> I'm cross-posting this information, hopefully you understand why I'm
> doing this.
> 
> Regards,
> Ralf
> 
> [1]
> From: Ralf Mardorf
> To: linux-audio-user
> Subject: [solved] External USB 2 HD for real-time recording
> Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 08:43:57 +0100
> 
> On Mon, 2013-03-18 at 18:12 +0100, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> > The issue that the drive will spin up and down again and again can be
> > avoided.
> > 
> > I removed
> > 
> > - thunar-volman
> > - tumbler
> > - gvfs
> > 
> > on Arch Linux. No packages depend on those packages for my Arch Linux.
> > The drive keeps asleep, even with still one partition mounted.
> > Later I'll add one package after the other, to find out what does cause
> > the access and I also will take a look at Ubuntu.
> 
> Arch Linux:
> 
> Only gvfs needs to be removed, no need to remove thunar-volman and
> tumbler. However, thunar-volman without gvfs seems to be useless.
> Tumbler doesn't cause issues, but I don't know what it's good for. To
> see thumbnails with Thunar it isn't needed.
> 
> I keep thunar-volman and tumbler on Arch and only removed gvfs. For my
> Arch nothing depends on gvfs, so it was the only package I had to remove.
> 
> 
> 
> Ubuntu Quantal:
> 
> root@q:~# apt-get purge gvfs
> The following packages will be REMOVED:
>   brasero* gvfs* gvfs-backends* gvfs-fuse* nautilus* nautilus-sendto*
> nautilus-share*
> 
> Who cares about the packages that depend on it? I anyway use Thunar
> instead of Nautilus and K3b instead of Brasero.
> 
> 
> 
> Résumé:
> 
> So who is to blame?
> 
> 
> By EU Regulation external drives must spin down.
> 
> I even didn't completely read the German blah blah blah,
> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Ab-2010-Maximal-2-Watt-im-Standby-Betrieb-von-Haushaltsgeraeten-PCs-und-Unterhaltungselektronik-Update-193947.html
> and I won't search for links in English.
> 
> Xfce doesn't depend on gvfs, neither the Arch, nor the Ubuntu packages.
> Until now it seems to be, that without gvfs, partitions can't be mounted
> with a file browser, they have to be mounted by CLI. It's not only an
> issue for the USB drive, but also for USB sticks.
> 
> It takes 30 minutes, then the WD Elements spins down and stays asleep.
> If you don't like this,than blame the EU.
> If you like it, then blame gvfs.
> 
> Does VirtualBox still see my iPad 2 connected by USB when gvfs is
> removed?
> 
> No problem, even an USB stick and even the
> external USB hard disk are available by VirtualBox.
> 
> 
> Is my KORG nanoKONTROL still accessible after removing gvfs?
> 
> It still does show up in QjackCtl's ALSA tab.
> 
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Re: First bugg with Debian

2013-03-21 Thread Darac Marjal
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 07:15:49AM +0100, Alex Padoly wrote:
>Hello,
> 
>I always use DEBIAN GNU LINUX and I have never had a kernel panic.
>With Wheezy on FUJITSU-SIEMENS SCENIC E300, several times, the system is
>frozen, I must turn off my computer.
>Now, I don't turn on my computer because at the begining of boot I read
>''Kernel panic''.
>I used this Wheezy on server rack Intel, no problem, no buggs!
> 
>Does it exist a bugg with the FUJITSU-SIEMENS SCENIC E300 computer.
>I can't install xubuntu on this computer because there was a ''kernel
>panic'' at the begining of the boot!

This sounds like a hardware problem to me.

If I understand you correctly:
 * Your computer has frozen several times
 * After one of these freezes, both the installed Debian Wheezy AND a
   Xubuntu installer stop with "kernel panic".

I would suggest trying to run some diagnostics on your computer. Perhaps
you have bad RAM (try Memtest86) or a bad power supply.

> 
>Thanks for your help.
>Alex PADOLY


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Re: elfsh for PPC

2013-03-21 Thread Aubrey Raech
On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:32:27 +0100
mk nithilan  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I would like to know if elfsh tool is available for ppc elf files, I
> am working on windows environment and I want to instrument powerpc
> elf files. Best Regards,
> Nithilan MK

From what I can find, the answer is no.

http://www.eresi-project.org/wiki/TheELFsh

It doesn't appear that PowerPC is an architecture supported by this
tool. You may want to ask on the debian-powerpc mailing list to see if
there are any other tools similar to this available.

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/var/mail permission change from squeeze to wheezy

2013-03-21 Thread Juha Heinanen
i noticed that permissions of /var/mail dir have changed from squeeze to
wheezy.

in squeeze i have

 $ ls -lsa
total 60
 4 drwxrwsrwt  2 root mail  4096 Mar 21 09:00 .

and in wheezy

 $ ls -lsa
total 60
 4 drwxrwsr-x  2 root mail  4096 Mar 21 09:00 .

the changes causes my emacs vm not being able to remove my emails from
/var/mail when it has copied them to my local folder.

i don't know if this is a bug or feature and if bug, which package i
should file a bug report against.

-- juha


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