Inability to launch Cinnamon

[Sharon Kimble]

I've just installed cinnamon to try it out again on a new monitor. but
when i try to access it i don't get any desktop just the gdm3 greeter
background. i suspect i have corrupt desktop for it from my last
attempt at using it, so I've deleted all items saying cinnamon i can
find in .local. and .share i think it was, I've done an apt-get
autoremove/purge/clean, and then reinstalled but I get no further when
i try to launch it than logging onto it from the gdm3 greeter, and
then the debian swirly background. I've checked with 'updatedb' and
then 'locate cinnamon', and removed all references that i can find,
but am still not able to log onto cinnamon. Where am I going wrong
please?

Thanks
Sharon.
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Bluetooth stop working after update

[Gean Ceretta]

Hello friends, I have an Sony Vaio VPCEG-15FB with Debian Wheezy, my bluetooth 
was working well until the last week updates, when a message in the boot says 
something like 'error on load bluetooth firmware'. One of the things I have 
done that maybe start this problem was an instalation of powertop and some 
energy save 'tunnables' in the respective tab of powertop, but I tried modify 
this options and don't succeed to have my bluetooth back

My bluetooth started to work about a month ago, after an update too, but in the 
past, the error message of load firmware does not appear.

Anyone can help me to solve this problem or give-me tips about it?

Thanks!

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Re: I saem to have lost maildrop's xfilter command

[Alois Mahdal]

Hi,

On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 15:59:36 -0400
"Eric d'Halibut"  wrote:

> Sorry I don't have much more hard data, but my maildrop
> scripts, after years of good service, seem all of a sudden
> broken. I have no xfilter command, which is required by my
> scripts.

I don't know maildrop, so this may not be relevant, but last
time I've seen commands "magically disappearing" was when I
forgot to add proper *shebang* (#!/usr/...) line. .-)

(Took *some* time to realize...)

aL.
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Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] Re: use a 3TB WD Mybook on old etch system kernel 2.6.18-6-486. parted 1.7.1 has bugs. can I use modern parted on other system and move over drive

[Mitchell Laks]

> ok so I will try it tomorrow. 
> Thank you very much
> I will report back
> 
> Mitchell

And the answer is:

The drive was not recognized as partitioned  and formated as two ext3 
partitions of size 1.5T.
even after I partitioned it on a modern sid system. 
The old debian kernel 2.6-18-2 recognized the gpt identity, but would not mount 
the drive.

Oh well, I will have to take the machine down and update before backup.

Thanks


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Re: Aptitude access again.

[Weaver]

On Fri, March 22, 2013 3:30 am, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 01:52:50AM -0700, Weaver wrote:
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> Anybody know what application this has?
>> ~~~
>> root@Telaman:/home/weaver# aptitude update
>> Get: 1 http://ftp.au.debian.org unstable Release.gpg [836 B]
>> Hit http://ftp.au.debian.org unstable Release
>> Fetched 836 B in 0s (4,067 B/s)
>> E: Release file for
>> http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release
>> is expired (invalid since 28min 17s). Updates for this repository will
>> not
>> be applied.
>
> http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2544/how-to-work-around-apts-release-file-expired-problem-on-a-local-mirror
> points to a "Valid-Until:" header in the release file. I would suggest
> trying a different mirror (or perhaps raising the issue with that
> mirror's maintainer).
>
>
It was amended within an hour, so sorry about the noise.
Kind regards,

Weaver

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Re: vlans

[Sven Hartge]

Bonno Bloksma  wrote:
> Hi Sven,

>>> What I do NOT want is to have names like eth0.60 for vlan.60
>>> incoming on interface eth0. Because if I decide it would be better
>>> to have vlan60 come in on eth1 I would have to rename all (firewall,
>>> etc.) scripts that refer to that name.

>>> What I would like to have is names like eth0, eth1, eth2,
>>> vlan-staff, vlan-internet, etc.

>> All answers you seek are provided in vlan-interfaces(5). Example:
>> 
>> iface vlan60 inet static
>>   vlan-raw-device eth0
>>   address 192.168.1.1
>>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>>

> According to the wiki page http://wiki.defcon.no/guides/debian/vlan
> the vlan-raw-device stanza will be gone in Wheezy. That means the
> setup as you showed, and that I intended to use, is not possible.

The vlan package and its if-*.d-scripts are still in Wheezy and should
be operational, so vlan-raw-device should work as shown, _if_ you
install the package. It still ships vconfig and does not use the generic
"ip link" method, but should work nontheless.

Grüße,
Sven.

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RE: vlans

[Bonno Bloksma]

Hi Sven,

>> What I do NOT want is to have names like eth0.60 for vlan.60 incoming 
>> on interface eth0. Because if I decide it would be better to have 
>> vlan60 come in on eth1 I would have to rename all (firewall, etc.) 
>> scripts that refer to that name.

>> What I would like to have is names like eth0, eth1, eth2, vlan-staff, 
>> vlan-internet, etc.

> All answers you seek are provided in vlan-interfaces(5). Example:
> 
> iface vlan60 inet static
>   vlan-raw-device eth0
>   address 192.168.1.1
>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>

According to the wiki page http://wiki.defcon.no/guides/debian/vlan the 
vlan-raw-device stanza will be gone in Wheezy. That means the setup as you 
showed, and that I intended to use, is not possible.

Bonno Bloksma

RE: vlans

[Bonno Bloksma]

Hi Darac

>> What I do NOT want is to have names like eth0.60 for vlan.60 incoming on 
>> interface eth0.
>> Because if I decide it would be better to have vlan60 come in on eth1 I 
>> would have to rename all (firewall, etc.) scripts that refer to that name.
>> 
>> What I would like to have is names like eth0, eth1, eth2, vlan-staff, 
>> vlan-internet, etc.
>> 
>> Reading the wiki article it seems that configuring vlans is done after the 
>> startup sequence
>> is pretty much done and somewhere in rc.local as it seems I have to issue a 
>> modprobe 8021q first. Only then can I use 'ip link add ..' to add the vlan 
>> interfaces.
>> But... That is way too late in the startup as it means all kinds of services 
>> that need networking to work have to wait until rc.local is being processed.
>> 
>> I am looking for a way to do all this with maybe udev via 
>> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and the /etc/network/interfaces 
>> file
>> That way all will be running as soon as networking is up and anything after 
>> that can run too. I use those two now to make sure all is up-and-running in 
>> time for the rest to do their work.
>> 
>> Or is there a better way?
>
> OK. You're asking "How do I name my interface vlan60 rather than eth0.60"?

That is ONE part of my question.

> I see two ways: Use a bridge device and have br0.60 (that way the .60 
> packets/frames can come in on any physical interface) or see if ifrename will 
> do what you need.

But can I use that inside the /etc/network/interfaces file or before that?
My idea was to go from:

iface eth0 inet static
address 192.168.178.10
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.178.1
up ip addr add 172.16.17.1/24 dev eth0
down ip addr del 172.16.17.1/24 dev eth0
pre-up /usr/local/bin/firewall.sh

to:

auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
address 172.16.17.1
netmask 255.255.255.0

auto vlan 100
iface vlan100 inet static
vlan_raw_device eth0
address 192.168.178.10
netmask 255.255.255.0
gateway 192.168.178.1
pre-up /usr/local/bin/firewall.sh

and use eth0 and vlan100 in the firewall script. But even better would be if I 
could use something (udev?) to change it to eth-staff and vlan-internet
This is just an example / test environment for me at home. At work this gets 
more complicated with more interfaces and more vlans.

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Re: vlans

[Sven Hartge]

Bonno Bloksma  wrote:

> What I do NOT want is to have names like eth0.60 for vlan.60 incoming
> on interface eth0. Because if I decide it would be better to have
> vlan60 come in on eth1 I would have to rename all (firewall, etc.)
> scripts that refer to that name.

> What I would like to have is names like eth0, eth1, eth2, vlan-staff,
> vlan-internet, etc.

All answers you seek are provided in vlan-interfaces(5). Example:

iface vlan60 inet static
  vlan-raw-device eth0
  address 192.168.1.1
  netmask 255.255.255.0

Grüße,
Sven.

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Re: vlans

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 02:27:13PM +, Bonno Bloksma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I am going to implement vlans on my Linux router. Have been reading about 
> this about from when Squeeze was released and was ready to take the plunge 
> today when I read this: http://wiki.defcon.no/guides/debian/vlan
> Seems the documentation I had found so far is about to be outdated.
> 
> What I do NOT want is to have names like eth0.60 for vlan.60 incoming on 
> interface eth0. Because if I decide it would be better to have vlan60 come in 
> on eth1 I would have to rename all (firewall, etc.) scripts that refer to 
> that name.
> 
> What I would like to have is names like eth0, eth1, eth2, vlan-staff, 
> vlan-internet, etc.
> 
> Reading the wiki article it seems that configuring vlans is done after the 
> startup sequence is pretty much done and somewhere in rc.local as it seems I 
> have to issue a modprobe 8021q first. Only then can I use 'ip link add ..' to 
> add the vlan interfaces.
> But... That is way too late in the startup as it means all kinds of services 
> that need networking to work have to wait until rc.local is being processed.
> 
> I am looking for a way to do all this with maybe udev via 
> /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and the /etc/network/interfaces file
> That way all will be running as soon as networking is up and anything after 
> that can run too. I use those two now to make sure all is up-and-running in 
> time for the rest to do their work.
> 
> Or is there a better way?

OK. You're asking "How do I name my interface vlan60 rather than
eth0.60"? I see two ways: Use a bridge device and have br0.60 (that way
the .60 packets^Wframes can come in on any physical interface) or see if
ifrename will do waht you need.



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Re: Run script at boot time

[Rob Owens]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 10:50:15AM +, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
> > 
> 
> 
> Unfortunately, that solution didn't seem to work.
> 
> Indeed, in this instance, it doesn't matter when the script is run,
> except that the network must be running, so on the face of it, rc.local
> would fit the bill.
> 
> I placed the line /usr/sbin/ltsp_update_sshkeys in /etc/rc.local, but
> after I rebooted, I needed to run it manually to set the host keys. I
> don't know whether the utility didn't run, or didn't run at the right
> time, or failed.
> 
> Perhaps I should explain a bit about what I'm trying to achieve. LTSP is
> a thin-client server for Linux. After boot-up, the clients communicate
> over an ssh tunnel with the server, using a key-based authentication
> mechanism. After certain upgrades, it seems that these keys need
> resetting, for which LTSP provides the aforementioned utility.
> 
> I don't understand why I need to run it, as the server has a static ip
> address, but some kernel upgrades also affect it. After a reboot, the
> terminal users start moaning about not being able to log in, and I have
> to run (as root) the utility. This is not always convenient, resulting
> in some downtime.
> 
> My imagined solution was to run the utility after each boot-up, but as
> you see, no such luck. Ideally I'd prefer to fix the underlying need to
> update the host keys, but I've no idea where to start.
> 
I use LTSP and I haven't had to update the keys in years.  I vaguely
recall having to do it once, but I can't remember the reason.  I update
my Debian Stable LTSP server daily, and even upgraded from Lenny to
Squeeze, and didn't need to update the keys.

Maybe you could try asking on the ltsp-discuss list.

To get your command to run, maybe you could try adding 'sleep 30s &&' to the
front of it just in case the system needs that time to get the network
up.

-Rob


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vlans

[Bonno Bloksma]

Hi,

I am going to implement vlans on my Linux router. Have been reading about this 
about from when Squeeze was released and was ready to take the plunge today 
when I read this: http://wiki.defcon.no/guides/debian/vlan
Seems the documentation I had found so far is about to be outdated.

What I do NOT want is to have names like eth0.60 for vlan.60 incoming on 
interface eth0. Because if I decide it would be better to have vlan60 come in 
on eth1 I would have to rename all (firewall, etc.) scripts that refer to that 
name.

What I would like to have is names like eth0, eth1, eth2, vlan-staff, 
vlan-internet, etc.

Reading the wiki article it seems that configuring vlans is done after the 
startup sequence is pretty much done and somewhere in rc.local as it seems I 
have to issue a modprobe 8021q first. Only then can I use 'ip link add ..' to 
add the vlan interfaces.
But... That is way too late in the startup as it means all kinds of services 
that need networking to work have to wait until rc.local is being processed.

I am looking for a way to do all this with maybe udev via 
/etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules and the /etc/network/interfaces file
That way all will be running as soon as networking is up and anything after 
that can run too. I use those two now to make sure all is up-and-running in 
time for the rest to do their work.

Or is there a better way?

Bonno Bloksma


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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

[Chris Bannister]

On Sat, Mar 23, 2013 at 01:53:11AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote:
> Don't be afraid to search google *BEFORE* posting your question, have a
> read of:
> 
> http://catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html

G! Sorry. That should be:

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

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Re: problem

[Rob Owens]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:54:48AM -0500, s...@mdselectronics.com wrote:
> I have installed Debian on my computer, but there is no "add/remove
> applications" like on a different computer with Debian on it that I
> have.
> How do I install it? (I have tried synaptic and I can't find it)
> 
I think that package is called software-center.

-Rob


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Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

[Chris Bannister]

On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:05:35AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> 1] What is a MUA?

You are using:
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:10.0.12) Gecko/20130116
Icedove/10.0.12

That is your Mail User Agent.
Icedove is just a repackaged thunderbird.

> 2] Other than the HTML, 
Use plain text instead:

http://kb.mozillazine.org/Plain_text_e-mail_(Thunderbird)
http://forum.notebookreview.com/linux-compatibility-software/251394-how-do-i-set-thunderbird-work-plain-text-default.html
http://askubuntu.com/questions/100797/how-do-i-configure-thunderbird-to-send-plain-text-emails-by-default
http://email.about.com/od/mozillatips/qt/et100403.htm

am I posting "good questions"?

Don't be afraid to search google *BEFORE* posting your question, have a
read of:

http://catb.org/jargon/html/T/top-post.html


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Re: pkg-config not returning correct version number - help please

[Chris Fisichella]

Alberto Luaces :

> Chris Fisichella writes:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I did something to cause pkg-config to not return the correct 
>> version number. I issue:
>>
>> $ pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig >= 2.10.91'
>> Requested 'fontconfig >= 2.10.91' but version of Fontconfig is 2.10.2
>>
>> This is after I (believe I) successfully installed from sources  
>> fontconfig-2.10.91 .
>>
>> When I look in the directories where pkg-config is supposed to look, I find
>> /usr/lib/pkgconfig$ cat fontconfig.pc
>> prefix=/usr
>> exec_prefix=${prefix}
>> libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
>> includedir=${prefix}/include
>> sysconfdir=/etc
>> localstatedir=${prefix}/var
>> PACKAGE=fontconfig
>> confdir=${sysconfdir}/fonts
>> cachedir=${localstatedir}/cache/${PACKAGE}
>>
>> Name: Fontconfig
>> Description: Font configuration and customization library
>> Version: 2.10.91
>> Libs: -L${libdir} -lfontconfig
>> Libs.private:  -lexpat -lfreetype
>> Cflags: -I${includedir}
>>
>> Version 2.10.2 is a tar ball I installed earlier. As it turns out, I 
>> need 2.10.91, so I installed that tar ball.
>>
>> If 2.10.91 is in this file, should pkg-config return that? Is there 
>> a way to get pkg-config in-sync with what is in the 
>> /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory? I tried rebooting, but that did not 
>> help.
>
> Searches are done at execution time, there is nothing to be
> synchronized.  You can track where pkg-config is looking for the .pc
> files by executing
>
> $ strace -e trace=open pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig 
> >= 2.10.91'
>
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Totally cool solution, Alberto. Thanks very much!

Re: Run script at boot time

[Tony van der Hoff]

On 20/03/13 19:24, Joe wrote:
> On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 14:53:09 +
> Tony van der Hoff  wrote:
> 
>> On 20/03/13 14:29, Adam Wolfe wrote:
>>> I'd go with /etc/rc.local
>>> That's what it is for.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 03/20/2013 10:23 AM, Tony van der Hoff wrote:
 Hi,

 Running Squeeze, I would like to run a script
 (ltsp-update-sshkeys) on each system boot.

 Where would I place a link to such a script; /etc/init.d hardly
 seems appropriate? I'm guessing it needs to be run after
 networking has been set up in order to correctly generate the ssh
 keys for the chroot.

 I don't really understand the boot sequence nowadays. Any advice
 appreciated.

> 
> If you just need to run something at boot *after* particular things are
> done, and it doesn't matter what else has been done, this is the best
> way.
> 


Unfortunately, that solution didn't seem to work.

Indeed, in this instance, it doesn't matter when the script is run,
except that the network must be running, so on the face of it, rc.local
would fit the bill.

I placed the line /usr/sbin/ltsp_update_sshkeys in /etc/rc.local, but
after I rebooted, I needed to run it manually to set the host keys. I
don't know whether the utility didn't run, or didn't run at the right
time, or failed.

Perhaps I should explain a bit about what I'm trying to achieve. LTSP is
a thin-client server for Linux. After boot-up, the clients communicate
over an ssh tunnel with the server, using a key-based authentication
mechanism. After certain upgrades, it seems that these keys need
resetting, for which LTSP provides the aforementioned utility.

I don't understand why I need to run it, as the server has a static ip
address, but some kernel upgrades also affect it. After a reboot, the
terminal users start moaning about not being able to log in, and I have
to run (as root) the utility. This is not always convenient, resulting
in some downtime.

My imagined solution was to run the utility after each boot-up, but as
you see, no such luck. Ideally I'd prefer to fix the underlying need to
update the host keys, but I've no idea where to start.

Cheers,

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Re: Aptitude access again.

[Darac Marjal]

On Fri, Mar 22, 2013 at 01:52:50AM -0700, Weaver wrote:
> Greetings all,
> 
> Anybody know what application this has?
> ~~~
> root@Telaman:/home/weaver# aptitude update
> Get: 1 http://ftp.au.debian.org unstable Release.gpg [836 B]
> Hit http://ftp.au.debian.org unstable Release
> Fetched 836 B in 0s (4,067 B/s)
> E: Release file for http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release
> is expired (invalid since 28min 17s). Updates for this repository will not
> be applied.

http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/2544/how-to-work-around-apts-release-file-expired-problem-on-a-local-mirror
points to a "Valid-Until:" header in the release file. I would suggest
trying a different mirror (or perhaps raising the issue with that
mirror's maintainer).



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Re: Installer not reading preseed.cfg

[Tom H]

On Tue, Mar 19, 2013 at 5:43 PM, keshav prabhakar  wrote:
>>
>> I just remembered, I'm using a linux 5 template ('Guest OS: Debian
>> GNU/Linux 5 (64-bit)') to install Debian 6. not sure if that's causing the
>> issue, somehow. (I'm using ESXi 4.0 server, which is quite old and it
>> doesn't support 'Debian GNU/Linux 6' as one of the templates). Let me try
>> with a Debian 5 ISO and see if the installer can find the disk.
>
> I was in fact (unknowingly) using a Debian 5 ISO over a 'Debian GNU/Linux 5
> (64-bit)' template which was causing it not to get me into the shell on root
> partition file system. Now, with a debian-6.0.7-amd64-netinst.iso, I was
> able to get to shell on the root file system in rescue mode.
>
> Then I ran `update-initramfs -u -v` followed by `update-grub`. They both
> appear to run fine (without showing any errors) though I didn't understand
> much about why they needed to be run. Is there anything in the output that
> I should be looking for?
>
> I tried running the preseed file again after this but the installer stopped
> at the same place as before ("No root file system found").
>
> perhaps, I should try recreating a new initramfs? (`update-initramfs -d`
> followed by `update-initramfs -c`)?

I don't understand. Did you reboot into your install after rebuilding
the initramfs or did you re-install?

Did you get "No root file system found" after rebuilding the initramfs
or after the re-install?


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Aptitude access again.

[Weaver]

Greetings all,

Anybody know what application this has?
~~~
root@Telaman:/home/weaver# aptitude update
Get: 1 http://ftp.au.debian.org unstable Release.gpg [836 B]
Hit http://ftp.au.debian.org unstable Release
Fetched 836 B in 0s (4,067 B/s)
E: Release file for http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/dists/unstable/Release
is expired (invalid since 28min 17s). Updates for this repository will not
be applied.

root@Telaman:/home/weaver#

Thanks for anything relevant.
Cheers!

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Re: pkg-config not returning correct version number - help please

[Alberto Luaces]

Chris Fisichella writes:

> Hi,
>
> I did something to cause pkg-config to not return the correct version number. 
> I issue:
>
> $ pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig >= 2.10.91'
> Requested 'fontconfig >= 2.10.91' but version of Fontconfig is 2.10.2
>
> This is after I (believe I) successfully installed from sources  
> fontconfig-2.10.91 .
>
> When I look in the directories where pkg-config is supposed to look, I find
> /usr/lib/pkgconfig$ cat fontconfig.pc
> prefix=/usr
> exec_prefix=${prefix}
> libdir=${exec_prefix}/lib
> includedir=${prefix}/include
> sysconfdir=/etc
> localstatedir=${prefix}/var
> PACKAGE=fontconfig
> confdir=${sysconfdir}/fonts
> cachedir=${localstatedir}/cache/${PACKAGE}
>
> Name: Fontconfig
> Description: Font configuration and customization library
> Version: 2.10.91
> Libs: -L${libdir} -lfontconfig
> Libs.private:  -lexpat -lfreetype  
> Cflags: -I${includedir}
>
> Version 2.10.2 is a tar ball I installed earlier. As it turns out, I need 
> 2.10.91, so I installed that tar ball.
>
> If 2.10.91 is in this file, should pkg-config return that? Is there a way to 
> get pkg-config in-sync with what is in the /usr/lib/pkgconfig directory? I 
> tried rebooting, but that did not help.

Searches are done at execution time, there is nothing to be
synchronized.  You can track where pkg-config is looking for the .pc
files by executing

$ strace -e trace=open pkg-config --exists --print-errors 'fontconfig >= 
2.10.91'

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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

[Ralf Mardorf]

PS, take a look at the source, after it's coming through the list, it's
plain text, not HTML:

[snip]
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
X-Mailer: Evolution 3.6.4 
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
[snip]

On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 22:15 -0600, Dave Thayer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:41:26AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> > 
> > I set the parameters for this list to text only.
> > 
> > When part of the email is HTML, Icedove defaults to HTML.
> > 
> > I now see my error...
> > 
> > I have to set the format to "preformat" and everything works.
> 
> You're almost there, your message is still coming across as html,
> "preformat" simply makes html that looks like plaintext. This is
> useful when you want to send program code in html, but it doesn't help
> the plaintext issue.
> 
> Here's an article on how to setup plaintext with thunderbird, and
> Icedove should be the same:
> 

While Evolution became a PITA, it does provide one useful feature.

I can format plain text as "normal" and as "preformatted"

Normal:
[rocketmouse@archlinux Desktop]$ rm 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\
123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789

Preformatted:
[rocketmouse@archlinux Desktop]$ rm 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\ 
123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789

At least Evolution doesn't wrap the preformatted line, but does wrap the
normal formatted line. Does it show up like that in your MUA too?


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Re: Fwd: Re: SSDT - Any more ideas??

[Ralf Mardorf]

On Thu, 2013-03-21 at 22:15 -0600, Dave Thayer wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 09:41:26AM -0400, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> > 
> > I set the parameters for this list to text only.
> > 
> > When part of the email is HTML, Icedove defaults to HTML.
> > 
> > I now see my error...
> > 
> > I have to set the format to "preformat" and everything works.
> 
> You're almost there, your message is still coming across as html,
> "preformat" simply makes html that looks like plaintext. This is
> useful when you want to send program code in html, but it doesn't help
> the plaintext issue.
> 
> Here's an article on how to setup plaintext with thunderbird, and
> Icedove should be the same:
> 

While Evolution became a PITA, it does provide one useful feature.

I can format plain text as "normal" and as "preformatted"

Normal:
[rocketmouse@archlinux Desktop]$ rm 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\
123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789

Preformatted:
[rocketmouse@archlinux Desktop]$ rm 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789\ 
123456789\ 123456789\ 123456789

At least Evolution doesn't wrap the preformatted line, but does wrap the
normal formatted line. Does it show up like that in your MUA too?


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Re: Run script at boot time

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 20 mar 13, 15:51:53, Ralf Mardorf wrote:
> If Debian still should use init, than /etc/rcS.d/, by lexical order. 

The order is generated automatically, based on dependency information in 
the headers. Joe explained it nicely.

Kind regards,
Andrei
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