Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
Bonjour, j'ai deux PC sous Debian Wheezy. j'utilise le même source.list. Mais, un pc Upgrade(PC1), l'autre non(PC2) Prenons l'exemple du paquet VLC. PC1 version installé: 1:2.0.6-dm01 PC2 version installé: 1:2.0.5-dm01 Bien sur aptitude safe-upgrade ou aptitude install vlc de fond rien. Surtout que aptitude m'indique que la dernière version de vlc est bien 1:2.0.5-dm01. d'autre part, la version i385 sur le pc2 indique bien 1:2.0.6-dm01 comme dernière version. Hors, je suis sous amd64. Voila, si vous aviez une petite idées une piste? Je dois en effet avouer complètement sécher sur ce coup la -- RÉVOLUTION ! M : Emmerdez les bourgeois ! Chiez dans les trous de golf ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aa34abfddc27f09d311373d87c05e9af.squirrel@bureau
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
Bonjour. Vérifiez les prioritées des paquets dans /etc/apt/preferences.d .Utilisez-vous dautre sources que ceux de wheezy dans votre source.list (sur les deux pc)? Le 21 avr. 2013 12:54, Nicolas Pechon zut...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, j'ai deux PC sous Debian Wheezy. j'utilise le même source.list. Mais, un pc Upgrade(PC1), l'autre non(PC2) Prenons l'exemple du paquet VLC. PC1 version installé: 1:2.0.6-dm01 PC2 version installé: 1:2.0.5-dm01 Bien sur aptitude safe-upgrade ou aptitude install vlc de fond rien. Surtout que aptitude m'indique que la dernière version de vlc est bien 1:2.0.5-dm01. d'autre part, la version i385 sur le pc2 indique bien 1:2.0.6-dm01 comme dernière version. Hors, je suis sous amd64. Voila, si vous aviez une petite idées une piste? Je dois en effet avouer complètement sécher sur ce coup la -- RÉVOLUTION ! M : Emmerdez les bourgeois ! Chiez dans les trous de golf ! -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/aa34abfddc27f09d311373d87c05e9af.squirrel@bureau
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:10:14 +0200 Belaïd MOUNSI oblivion.ik...@gmail.com wrote: Bonjour. Vérifiez les prioritées des paquets dans /etc/apt/preferences.d .Utilisez-vous dautre sources que ceux de wheezy dans votre source.list (sur les deux pc)? La commande suivante sert à déboguer des problèmes relatifs au fichier des préférences. Sans argument, la commande affiche la priorité de chaque source. Sinon, elle affiche des informations précises sur la priorité du paquet donné en argument : apt-cache policy [paquet] [paquet] [...] -- Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421142422.699895ca6e2b75d13a1bd...@6jf.be
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
Et donc votre commande donne quoi dans vos pc ? Le 21 avr. 2013 14:24, Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be a écrit : On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:10:14 +0200 Belaïd MOUNSI oblivion.ik...@gmail.com wrote: Bonjour. Vérifiez les prioritées des paquets dans /etc/apt/preferences.d .Utilisez-vous dautre sources que ceux de wheezy dans votre source.list (sur les deux pc)? La commande suivante sert à déboguer des problèmes relatifs au fichier des préférences. Sans argument, la commande affiche la priorité de chaque source. Sinon, elle affiche des informations précises sur la priorité du paquet donné en argument : apt-cache policy [paquet] [paquet] [...] -- Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421142422.699895ca6e2b75d13a1bd...@6jf.be
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieux
citation de=Belaïd MOUNSI Bonjour. Vérifiez les prioritées des paquets dans /etc/apt/preferences.d .Utilisez-vous dautre sources que ceux de wheezy dans votre source.list (sur les deux pc)? Effectivement, sur PC2 (celui qui ne upgrade plus), j'ai: Package: * Pin: release a=unstable Pin-Priority: 50 Package: * Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 80 Package: php-horde php-horde-* Pin: release a=testing Pin-Priority: 500 Le 21 avr. 2013 12:54, Nicolas Pechon zut...@laposte.net a écrit : Bonjour, j'ai deux PC sous Debian Wheezy. j'utilise le même source.list. Mais, un pc Upgrade(PC1), l'autre non(PC2) -- 18:11 faut faire kill -9 casimir pour tuer lilo enfants !!! -+- Inconnu -+- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/7ec7f08b0d7214bb82eea2b800f8b25b.squirrel@bureau
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
citation de=Jean-Marc On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:10:14 +0200 Belaïd MOUNSI oblivion.ik...@gmail.com wrote: Bonjour. Vérifiez les prioritées des paquets dans /etc/apt/preferences.d .Utilisez-vous dautre sources que ceux de wheezy dans votre source.list (sur les deux pc)? La commande suivante sert à déboguer des problèmes relatifs au fichier des préférences. Sans argument, la commande affiche la priorité de chaque source. Sinon, elle affiche des informations précises sur la priorité du paquet donné en argument : apt-cache policy [paquet] [paquet] [...] # apt-cache policy vlc vlc: Installé : 1:2.0.5-dmo1 Candidat : 1:2.0.5-dmo1 Table de version : 1:2.0.6-dmo1 0 80 http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages *** 1:2.0.5-dmo1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:2.0.1-0.6 0 80 http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/debian-multimedia/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 2.0.6-1 0 50 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages 2.0.3-5 0 80 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 80 http://ftp.u-picardie.fr/mirror/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages -- Linux a un noyau, Windows a des pépins... -+- Inconnu -+- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/0cc46b8a9fee4866e11121410cf85349.squirrel@bureau
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
Bonjour, Le 21/04/2013 13:00, Nicolas Pechon a écrit : Prenons l'exemple du paquet VLC. PC1 version installé: 1:2.0.6-dm01 PC2 version installé: 1:2.0.5-dm01 il semble que tu utilises le dépôt deb-multimedia.org pour obtenir VLC (d'où le -dmo1) Si tu n'en as pas un besoin précis, passer sur debian suffit. Sinon, le site mentionne VLC au même version que ce soit pour i386 ou amd64 http://deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/package/vlc http://deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/vlc Peut-être passes-tu par un miroir non à jour sur le PC2 ? -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173dadc.6050...@free.fr
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 14:36:35 +0200 Nicolas Pechon zut...@laposte.net wrote: Salut nicolas, # apt-cache policy vlc vlc: Installé : 1:2.0.5-dmo1 Candidat : 1:2.0.5-dmo1 Table de version : 1:2.0.6-dmo1 0 80 http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages *** 1:2.0.5-dmo1 0 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status 1:2.0.1-0.6 0 80 http://www.las.ic.unicamp.br/pub/debian-multimedia/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 2.0.6-1 0 50 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ unstable/main amd64 Packages 2.0.3-5 0 80 http://ftp.fr.debian.org/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages 80 http://ftp.u-picardie.fr/mirror/debian/ wheezy/main amd64 Packages Tu as donc la réponse à ta question. La version installée ayant la priorité la plus haut parmi toutes les versions disponibles, apt n'installera pas de ni nouvelles versions, ni de mises à jour. -- Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421152859.7da4f2e754881b78f3c93...@6jf.be
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
citation de=Jean-Christophe Saint-Marc Bonjour, Le 21/04/2013 13:00, Nicolas Pechon a écrit : Prenons l'exemple du paquet VLC. PC1 version installé: 1:2.0.6-dm01 PC2 version installé: 1:2.0.5-dm01 il semble que tu utilises le dépôt deb-multimedia.org pour obtenir VLC (d'où le -dmo1) Si tu n'en as pas un besoin précis, passer sur debian suffit. Sinon, le site mentionne VLC au même version que ce soit pour i386 ou amd64 http://deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-i386/package/vlc http://deb-multimedia.org/dists/testing/main/binary-amd64/package/vlc Peut-être passes-tu par un miroir non à jour sur le PC2 ? Oui, toutefois c'était un exemple. En fait, cela va faire un mois qu'il ne fait plus de mise à jour... -- S'il fallait tolérer aux autres tout ce qu'on se permet à soi-même, la vie ne serait plus tenable -+- Georges Courteline -+- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/99aa5593dafb07152f8c8b1e7040e865.squirrel@bureau
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
citation de=Jean-Marc Tu as donc la réponse à ta question. La version installée ayant la priorité la plus haut parmi toutes les versions disponibles, apt n'installera pas de ni nouvelles versions, ni de mises à jour. Quel triple buse... J'ai crus que la wheezy était passé en stable. J'avais donc changé mes priorité en conséquences. Forcément, ça a bloqué tous -- «La question n'est pas de savoir pourquoi il y a des gens qui jettent des pierres sur la police, mais de savoir pourquoi il y en a si peu» -+- W. Reich (1897-1957) -+- -- Lisez la FAQ de la liste avant de poser une question : http://wiki.debian.org/fr/FrenchLists Pour vous DESABONNER, envoyez un message avec comme objet unsubscribe vers debian-user-french-requ...@lists.debian.org En cas de soucis, contactez EN ANGLAIS listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/a4318ac5b62c4eea5f446d943f5c6ab2.squirrel@bureau
Re: Debian Wheezy upgrade curieu
On Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:02:03 +0200 Nicolas Pechon zut...@laposte.net wrote: Quel triple buse... J'ai crus que la wheezy était passé en stable. J'avais donc changé mes priorité en conséquences. Forcément, ça a bloqué tous Si cela fonctionne après avoir mis à jour tes préférences, n'oublie pas de marquer le fil de discussion comme étant résolu. -- Jean-Marc jean-m...@6jf.be pgpluA7pR8Xch.pgp Description: PGP signature
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Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:41:50 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: (arreglo las citas) (...) Tengo una duda: con un cd de instalación de debían en modo rescate ¿Se puede instalar tan solo el entorno gráfico sin que altere el resto de archivos? Con la opción de modo de rescate desde el CD de instalación podrás crear un entorno chrooteado e intentar instalar desde ahí lo que sea que quieres instalar (xserver-xorg), pero no soy muy amiga de ejecutar comandos al tuntún, prefiero saber qué es lo que pasa realmente, de qué se queja el sistema, para poder actuar en consecuencia. Esta fue la opción, en modo rescate, con la que pude solucionar el problema, instalando el mismo driver que tenía, no arrancaba con otra versión ni con el libre. Tuvo que ser el mismo. Curioso. Por lo demás fui incapaz de arrancar sin entorno gráfico. Me alegra que hayas resuelto pero ¿no te interesa saber *qué* y *por qué* pasó? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl08gn$r9u$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El día 21 de abril de 2013 10:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 20 Apr 2013 22:41:50 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: (arreglo las citas) (...) Tengo una duda: con un cd de instalación de debían en modo rescate ¿Se puede instalar tan solo el entorno gráfico sin que altere el resto de archivos? Con la opción de modo de rescate desde el CD de instalación podrás crear un entorno chrooteado e intentar instalar desde ahí lo que sea que quieres instalar (xserver-xorg), pero no soy muy amiga de ejecutar comandos al tuntún, prefiero saber qué es lo que pasa realmente, de qué se queja el sistema, para poder actuar en consecuencia. Esta fue la opción, en modo rescate, con la que pude solucionar el problema, instalando el mismo driver que tenía, no arrancaba con otra versión ni con el libre. Tuvo que ser el mismo. Curioso. Por lo demás fui incapaz de arrancar sin entorno gráfico. Me alegra que hayas resuelto pero ¿no te interesa saber *qué* y *por qué* pasó? Si claro y de hecho no paro de darle vueltas y no dejo de hacerme la pregunta de por qué la única forma de que arrancara el sistema fuese instalando el mismo driver que tenía y no le sirviese otro. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cac+uy7h2nnqdq+npnzetqsyn2gpxobtwtxh5hhkayukq6hp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El Sun, 21 Apr 2013 13:00:52 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: El día 21 de abril de 2013 10:37, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: (...) Esta fue la opción, en modo rescate, con la que pude solucionar el problema, instalando el mismo driver que tenía, no arrancaba con otra versión ni con el libre. Tuvo que ser el mismo. Curioso. Por lo demás fui incapaz de arrancar sin entorno gráfico. Me alegra que hayas resuelto pero ¿no te interesa saber *qué* y *por qué* pasó? Si claro y de hecho no paro de darle vueltas y no dejo de hacerme la pregunta de por qué la única forma de que arrancara el sistema fuese instalando el mismo driver que tenía y no le sirviese otro. ¿Y además de hacerte la pregunta y darle vueltas, has hecho algo que te ayude a despejar la incógnita? Lo digo porque aún no sabemos qué error te aparecía en la pantalla al intentar arrancar el sistema :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl0i02$r9u$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 13:00, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Debiste poner el error que te daba al arrancar sin ese controlador que tenías, por si algo no te cuadraba, ya que, se puede encontrar la solución rápidamente. No veo ningún motivo no darlo. Si lo hubieras hecho, enseguida te dábamos una solución rápida para eso y más. - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXPOEbuF9/q6J55WAQoUsg//WQArbg08d2pSd1fq6VqegfP4DRYc2ZTr 9Lv7t1B9ZatW7K18tQDfMovBKhhV1yw6cmQbiQ3dnJQFRjuSvieSaT0bIeAv4JWK ziGMKkJH+vhXA38FGmVdlm67veVSdAkWmZaTudsWrEPTspOYHlYbinPqlOsDMJlL 8hum0qgVljXFIRVlSkdCzihl9Erpfb7zhf4mOIbz4YxrjJZSIn76tD/y01kRhbDi PcrRqlJeyXW7a042E/2GLm9y0aCNTlMaVhiy+e9YKTT9Z20KlJ21avTcyGX925Zo 7zeWb8CPZAQk74wRHAOpxTBfX5+jS/tqCK3Qqfj3kZWMA6zX6+InN0DDicpZlSKv g+v+artx5wqExpNVdGHEodOiqGvVKWvfYsxFJUnFPjePetVJ4DtkaokF2SG9A6IJ 3ZBuNjtP4GouNQveZ2OdUvPhkBH50bbK1K7BzHhs+KQ6TTJ7Ar95FYm5hgsz1LBx MycselxSS8cTRD1nOvvIh+z8zKkTMxN9rA3O2iKMVUHyFRokVWcvp7PkGEpdvNDl 9JZheXPGJogK8rjokzpT6lIv5EOKTy3otJPYzCzIC8NL64v851A0FmUV2xqJrrhj omvkhkB6axj4h0ZCLzUva3AYbWxUP0+nMv13Ek65bZ3uCqmn13k5LNPeyZkrRp/m kxGv5Xz4ZIQ= =8hxa -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173ce12.4010...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: ¡Que llega Wheezy!
El 20/04/13 17:48, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió: El 20/04/13 20:53, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: yo también me mantengo en testing... y empiezo a juntar adrenalina para la primera actualización después del nuevo stable cuando entre a testing todo lo que está esperando en sid :D Yo no sé vosotros...pero yo uso Unstable... Va bien hasta ahora. Wheezy lo tengo desde el año pasado. NO ha fallado, sino que he tenido que hacer un formateo (con copia de seguridad completa de todo lo que tengo), porque había pensado pasarme a amd64, pero me di la vuelta y volví a poner i386. Puedo hacer muchas cosas y mucho tema, pero no voy a arriesgarme a instalar paquetes amd64 ahora, que se puede para instalar todos los paquetes que afecten a la arquitectura. Muchos programas los tengo como i686, porque funcionan y bastante bien. - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. ¿Por qué i386 en lugar de amd64? Fijate esto http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2009/01/msg00614.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2008/10/msg01135.html La única contra que hoy tiene amd64, es wine, que no funciona. Pero hace rato que tengo una VBox con el innombrable XP para esas cosas. Espero que te sirva JAP -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173da6b.4080...@gmail.com
Re: ¡Que llega Wheezy!
El dom, 21-04-2013 a las 09:24 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: El 20/04/13 17:48, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió: El 20/04/13 20:53, Gonzalo Rivero escribió: yo también me mantengo en testing... y empiezo a juntar adrenalina para la primera actualización después del nuevo stable cuando entre a testing todo lo que está esperando en sid :D Yo no sé vosotros...pero yo uso Unstable... Va bien hasta ahora. Wheezy lo tengo desde el año pasado. NO ha fallado, sino que he tenido que hacer un formateo (con copia de seguridad completa de todo lo que tengo), porque había pensado pasarme a amd64, pero me di la vuelta y volví a poner i386. Puedo hacer muchas cosas y mucho tema, pero no voy a arriesgarme a instalar paquetes amd64 ahora, que se puede para instalar todos los paquetes que afecten a la arquitectura. Muchos programas los tengo como i686, porque funcionan y bastante bien. - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. ¿Por qué i386 en lugar de amd64? Fijate esto http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2009/01/msg00614.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2008/10/msg01135.html La única contra que hoy tiene amd64, es wine, que no funciona. Pero hace rato que tengo una VBox con el innombrable XP para esas cosas. wine si funciona. O al menos me funcionó el año pasado cuando lo compilé e instalé para jugar starcraft (y desde entonces no intenté usarlo de nuevo) -- (-.(-.(-.(-.(-.(-.-).-).-).-).-).-) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1366550220.2610.4.ca...@eeepc.ucasal.ar
Re: ¡Que llega Wheezy!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 14:24, Debian GMail escribió: ¿Por qué i386 en lugar de amd64? Fijate esto http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2009/01/msg00614.html http://lists.debian.org/debian-user-spanish/2008/10/msg01135.html Je...porque la compatibilidad se mide perfectamente por los programas que tengo hoy en día, que sino...¡y se puede poner a AMD64, si se quiere, como me das del 2º enlace! Aunque, tengo el /home separado... ;-) Y por cierto, se pueden instalar los paquetes amd64 bajo i386, pero de 'otra forma'. Eso sí, se ha de hacer con 'dpkg --add-architecture amd64', para luego hacer el cambio a través del fichero /etc/apt/sources.list. PERO antes de nada, se han de quitar los paquetes i386 por los nuevos, para tenerlos todo de copia de seguridad mucho antes de hacer nada y, eso sí, *sin hacer el purgue, que sino te cargas todo*. Es un poco lioso, pero valdría la pena si se trata de una instalación en limpio, que es mucho más seguro. La única contra que hoy tiene amd64, es wine, que no funciona. Pero hace rato que tengo una VBox con el innombrable XP para esas cosas. Funcionar, funciona. El caso, es tener bien los paquetes correctos. - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXPsAbuF9/q6J55WAQpM1Q/9GYLjjmYqUGBIKUUV6xN8rQPdgaias+2R eblgAc69nYcuxuMoQMpUHvnHv58Sxu/vErcbe1EDeM827QNf6CVru4dyG3BTm6qF WL/jSJ0Fof9N3THoPApEWq24UDuqh+PWbco7w0NNO1zrcAevYZlF2abEnx0ZQkec FIfDduRTiEp3GJrvxOeg5r0/QEHZ92QCNo6ra3ldJY/SGlVctctyTMUDw5hircZQ glvVYQj/cf/UwegstyQND11rhe4fltkCCNFAhhnIbcCVQj3SzZpiA6kt1SoogUwc uuHHBIL4IJZDjz4RCOjcrJbzHMeVUEA8GfLfD1LbhVxkIjeibjDrNlSGzWKCAD6h lfnaM4peEv2YG+rvyxh+++qXka01Mk0JJa/H1mA42OHIl/sYCpRwwAVJWJcmUIPC wR+h1RRXbg9HMfAZHIIua5KnssbCmPIy2W/PuJHxoijAE8Vir8rCF3mNy0ufemJ+ 6FBdspgGPh4xDh3CN9dxx3bXU3kYcO31RlfgD5OvXYQ+hpXq90YPvP76bXAecKST NPPM4uu28BwchFyvmWheqlT6h1ks7dY/2uhxBK1EB8t3w1IQG9neJizLj4ekkEkp OcSBtnJ6riCpHSvQM134/ovoJYLUbee4GwnlAl8Z9+TffpWN6ht/I4XURcBcVfm8 uzcqgaFVAs4= =+6cp -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173ec01.1070...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
64 bits (era: ¡Que llega Wheezy!)
El Sun, 21 Apr 2013 09:24:11 -0300, Debian GMail escribió: La única contra que hoy tiene amd64, es wine, que no funciona. Ese es precisamente uno de los mitos que Wine quiere desterrar: *** http://wiki.winehq.org/Debunking_Wine_Myths#head-5326e1c0fc958109b522c9ded18303d2b77fd604 The 32-bit version of Wine works on 64-bit systems. (See WineOn64bit for more information.) *** Cierto es que la mayoría de los programas que no disponen de compilación nativa para 64 bits son un dolor de muelas (parece que la gente se ha olvidado de los malabares que había que hacer para usar el navegador -p. ej., Firefox- con los plugins de 32 bits como flash o java...), así que tratándose de una aplicación como Wine me imagino que no debe ser nada agradable. La solución pasa por paquetes compilados nativamente para entornos de 64 bits, el resto no son más que parches mal puestos. Pero hace rato que tengo una VBox con el innombrable XP para esas cosas. Sinceramente, nunca me he llevado bien con wine, y personalmente lo encuentro muy limitado. No digo que no hagan un gran trabajo, pero los resultados obtenidos no son los que desearía/esperaría. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl0sog$j6$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
2013/4/21 Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 13:00, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Debiste poner el error que te daba al arrancar sin ese controlador que tenías, por si algo no te cuadraba, ya que, se puede encontrar la solución rápidamente. No veo ningún motivo no darlo. Si lo hubieras hecho, enseguida te dábamos una solución rápida para eso y más. - -- La cuestión es que no me salía ningún error. El caso es que no llegaba a cargar nada. En el menú de Grub2-EFI intentaba arrancar con la opción predeterminada pero ya se quedaba colgado ahí, es decir sin cargar nada. Por eso solo pude acceder a la consola con el CD de instalación en modo rescate. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAC+uy7i3kT7Q0NvzaotYZxpP16-6h7GN+i2Yg=glxxtwzuq...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El Sun, 21 Apr 2013 16:32:10 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: La cuestión es que no me salía ningún error. Pues eso también es importante porque es mucho más grave aún. El caso es que no llegaba a cargar nada. En el menú de Grub2-EFI intentaba arrancar con la opción predeterminada pero ya se quedaba colgado ahí, es decir sin cargar nada. ¿Dices que al pulsar las opciones del menú de GRUB2-EFI (normal y recuperación) se quedaban con la pantalla en negro y nada más? ¿Ni si quiera veías el cursor parpadeando, o algún mensaje? ¿N-a-d-a? Por eso solo pude acceder a la consola con el CD de instalación en modo rescate. Pues Octavio, informa de este fallo. Y yo que tú informaba de esto tanto en Debian como en AMD-ATI porque se trata de un problema -en mi opinión- muy grave. Ten en cuenta que no todo el mundo tiene un Mac para probar estas cosas por lo que cualquier ayuda que reciban los desarrolladores lo agradecerán. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl0uie$j6$2...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 16:32, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: La cuestión es que no me salía ningún error. El caso es que no llegaba a cargar nada. En el menú de Grub2-EFI intentaba arrancar con la opción predeterminada pero ya se quedaba colgado ahí, es decir sin cargar nada. Por eso solo pude acceder a la consola con el CD de instalación en modo rescate. ¿Y ni siquiera, te ha dado información en /var/log/dmesg? Porque ahí, te pueden dar muchas pistas a la hora de poder hacer el 'arreglo' y que, los desarrolladores del Grub-EFI (es el paquete grub-efi). O, incluso, aquí, te podríamos ayudar a 'arreglar' ese problema para que tú lo soluciones con los parámetros y comandos a implementar. Recuerda, grub-efi tiene para dos plataformas: ia32 y amd64. - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXQBSLuF9/q6J55WAQqpYg//YDBwTAoxlHSlfOdbah2ZEVf0xubx8Yeq gXmql6BX7b6hwn2vINNZLIlXxD7DJkwhRS349S+xscJlx01AwVk5T1PTAQjyaTF4 CWvwaNwmPjWPvYijyloICXLMNpeRYEBdSEhNGlHOTdf/1pvrsMBwdn6qpJ1NnKCj JsgYJjzjGtR5vuK6Wh8owSiwqewY6bRtnjlY4L6hYQCn8O9Dy26aO/wXyI5z0gIv ZbVuGLhJZbrKP2zZBVVO/LVbGbL42cDG2bnZTmmpAUns+3E+1TdYYWgL/LueTuxU kSvApBn7eRwIeZrfr1fe9HB4i/SgutBThshpHQBdkeiIeoZAUjkRiZnGR0BtcmFy mXYaUaUtsUyPGc8of/+VNKWRUf69tvpbBBl0SG+k0zhZ1Vn+h9lQ1h4pPT/PXXum qk+vbCUOvh4uryVkzWr+h/3jBcr+paRU6ng2f0aMHIi+E0sk+wFhmrwrf32Wn7wD nKlzZkYRBZJViDUM21/weu6AKW0TGyVcR/fiJxpmwuwX6czhbLF2bU38+HjQL9A1 ISoPWkzNuo9EINiUGQxSDHunqICUAHVZTo9MbJDqEKD+wTKGfhjyFiglfh4srI28 NMPe4GV09+/bdtRL2rdmoOEqshJuudwI0+LEHoI6I5JD94Q9aV00s6a8LbFA0MNR dT4yZs/D3OY= =nCY5 -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51740148.3040...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El día 21 de abril de 2013 17:10, Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 16:32, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: La cuestión es que no me salía ningún error. El caso es que no llegaba a cargar nada. En el menú de Grub2-EFI intentaba arrancar con la opción predeterminada pero ya se quedaba colgado ahí, es decir sin cargar nada. Por eso solo pude acceder a la consola con el CD de instalación en modo rescate. ¿Y ni siquiera, te ha dado información en /var/log/dmesg? Porque ahí, te pueden dar muchas pistas a la hora de poder hacer el 'arreglo' y que, los desarrolladores del Grub-EFI (es el paquete grub-efi). O, incluso, aquí, te podríamos ayudar a 'arreglar' ese problema para que tú lo soluciones con los parámetros y comandos a implementar. Recuerda, grub-efi tiene para dos plataformas: ia32 y amd64. - -- Pues no miré el log de dmesg, se me pasó, un fallo. En lo relativo al grub-efi, tengo cargado el amd64. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cac+uy7iy5oprrs4kqpxqkkstejo0pjzd2fvqel6405rlhvs...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 19:57, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Pues no miré el log de dmesg, se me pasó, un fallo. En lo relativo al grub-efi, tengo cargado el amd64. Me contestaste igual al privado...pero como lo tengo en las news (bendito news.gmane.org... ;-) ). Pues mira...es lo que se debe hacer antes de tomar el control, porque puede ser un kerneloops o cualquier otra cosa. En todo caso, si se trata de eso, se puede solucionar cambiando el código fuente del mismo, pero avisando a los desarrolladores de la aplicación, para que, en el futuro no existan estos fallos garrafales en sus desarrollos. ;-) - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXQo/buF9/q6J55WAQru1g/+PF3G0Cb9OFNLHlvHzrsJbGmmhNs69Ntp vzmC618QEBd0xNG5u3nnHRiebPo7gRTH7eQSc0SWOHUWMYpKjJP8Z0LT3BabGnfj OpS9fWRYHgPbCf03pOUrcPcHwghFhPeGqhXPCjKrjnVIuWwz7USctCb+MBH46wRU /+FGfvR/kFKJdB1ZegH/lbqyR+wNY1/6LBsCLsv4rsxr3xca7iMUVOeABUUX+VoL 0a/MVbwpnH6aabjNUk3/AQESBbUWpynwV5p/e89HpJWnjp91kFTwU02V1o1msrCo y72OS5IqT90DDVsg8tMlG+ifqHjZ4IZ/OfL4KYhVc3u7KtSEk/h562g1NMQF5H+F LGjCdqWMXSnMz2RHuqB2DX3UoFNmcSLfi1tlQzuYtTOzLK/gtqDVzGkvT6A2LfQu f89Pa/QSG7G7d2xT8VIvZ9K7UsQgBotJ7TFRit8FSQxg2YKzVNgOuVQDUC3OW7Dp vcVpDMRMfCTFA0TWyHiU6+pRVW2e46RC6uHDcrFMMnwMfBwbyr9htA45xq9ElGmS okzwrtOJOEMabS/OUT80u9HvFD2f2MDQ2vzfHiFPRnAZ3KumVl4J2uWi+jUW/ISe j6A1iM4B+jNtb1aL5x7yVrY52U7Br6mDD/ZArynlmkqNyzLNJtGpUlgXGUv4kn1/ 7qSI1/DV/qw= =dfBL -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517428fd.7020...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El día 21 de abril de 2013 19:59, Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com escribió: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 19:57, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Pues no miré el log de dmesg, se me pasó, un fallo. En lo relativo al grub-efi, tengo cargado el amd64. Me contestaste igual al privado...pero como lo tengo en las news (bendito news.gmane.org... ;-) ). Pues mira...es lo que se debe hacer antes de tomar el control, porque puede ser un kerneloops o cualquier otra cosa. En todo caso, si se trata de eso, se puede solucionar cambiando el código fuente del mismo, pero avisando a los desarrolladores de la aplicación, para que, en el futuro no existan estos fallos garrafales en sus desarrollos. ;-) - -- Vaya, disculpa. Las líneas que me aparecen en el grub-efi para el arranque normal son estas: setparams 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64' insmod gzio insmod part_gpt insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,gpt5)' search --no-floppy --fs-unid --set=root 3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595db45\b6d14 echo 'Loading Linux 3.2.0.-2amd64 ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2 root=UUUID=3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595\db45b6d14 ro quiet echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-amd64 Salvo error u omisión. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cac+uy7jryakfgzjob+ov4h77nrkot0yxnbwkd1vkeoscury...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 20:36, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Vaya, disculpa. ¡No pasa nada! Las líneas que me aparecen en el grub-efi para el arranque normal son estas: setparams 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64' insmod gzio insmod part_gpt insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,gpt5)' search --no-floppy --fs-unid --set=root 3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595db45\b6d14 echo 'Loading Linux 3.2.0.-2amd64 ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2 root=UUUID=3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595\db45b6d14 ro quiet echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-amd64 Salvo error u omisión. ¿Has mirado con el CD de instalación el fichero /var/log/dmesg del error que te ha dado al arrancar el sistema con esos parámetros del grub-efi? Debería darte más datos. - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIUAwUBUXQzmbuF9/q6J55WAQqDig/2IEjGZ8Vm22zY9nxH64oI+zmQM8wWW7bQ +R3nXMh2n8l5Au6H088mTc0LZo4cTifh0QdKdSwJIkPojf8EwVxj7E0bfDibz9Me dD0OS4sQUwVO7Taspvdsn5A9e57SCoQqV/zykbxPI8AD8DcFTuCIt0abkFvK1R7w 80rA9SE1Men/7OAVNGALMnLubTzh2HRXOIVYCIjJSsHGZUJtOAPUHBSNqmHmR/lC lBGMRy9c7fBS3P36z5S/BTAxjS+35flhZXdDJKjK69ZgpfaD2rBNEXlUnnd0JrZG OrZcTADKet2lT6/kFfKg0SiXjxMbOK+xFnKJifCu7DclTkUgkx45Wf5uzxrSiYF0 RhZifZVZf2+6E6hO24gQ7jKOI/pzWShNJly9I2egTgr3o8CVtN4iN3eW+TlJqFES bJNJMpeiE7uQQAZihPiAOy3BYdZ8oFWCgRUJOuxQkMC+My+v6cqFCNQKjBWj/C3I c2seomF0YTx2oyBtuiyTJUpHeKLUeUfAll2xnnbIIpfL7GCpsnplnmCpaMwl7gnl vGzk3S8Mx05ZV+i18r795Oyf9Pu6jReAK50EbF7+4YY/2MnLTslICWxOkQrp9Tkn v7ZBCJ1ouqte9eNmfZfBZ1roKZknMzrJWK6eZoocRMnBjJ4p1LU5m4CSO1AWQ2b4 w0sPREeXCw== =mcMK -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5174339a.7030...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
problemas con thunderbird
Hola gente! Quería preguntar si alguien a tenido problemas con thunderbird o firefox ya que cuando intento ejecutarlo me dice: Falló al ejecutar el proceso hijo «~/firefox/firefox» (No existe el fichero o el directorio). tengo Debian Wheezy amd64
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
2013/4/21 Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 20:36, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Vaya, disculpa. ¡No pasa nada! Las líneas que me aparecen en el grub-efi para el arranque normal son estas: setparams 'Debian GNU/Linux, with Linux 3.2.0-2-amd64' insmod gzio insmod part_gpt insmod ext2 set root='(hd0,gpt5)' search --no-floppy --fs-unid --set=root 3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595db45\b6d14 echo 'Loading Linux 3.2.0.-2amd64 ...' linux /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-2 root=UUUID=3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595\db45b6d14 ro quiet echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...' initrd /boot/initrd.img-3.2.0-2-amd64 Salvo error u omisión. ¿Has mirado con el CD de instalación el fichero /var/log/dmesg del error que te ha dado al arrancar el sistema con esos parámetros del grub-efi? Debería darte más datos. No, el último .log que tengo es del 15 de abril y en esa fecha ya me funcionaba. Las líneas que puse antes, son las del arranque, es decir las del grub. Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAC+uy7iTVcAAo8v5Hk57ZNLyX58kvOLr3z8t=sk7jzgckih...@mail.gmail.com
Re: problemas con thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 21:00, Gabriel Condori escribió: Quería preguntar si alguien a tenido problemas con thunderbird o firefox ya que cuando intento ejecutarlo me dice: Falló al ejecutar el proceso hijo «~/firefox/firefox» (No existe el fichero o el directorio). tengo Debian Wheezy amd64 ¿Has revisado si lo tienes ejecutando en 2º plano? Prueba mirando a ver: ps aux | grep firefox - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXQ8SLuF9/q6J55WAQrqJQ//a7uXr4JEmLnLk8e9Rxyz45xf8A+6R1cR Rvhv8t+1M96zCcN80LEzsoQ+8LVQ21Ir61LidhPnTLmgME16NkcSTDzUfyJI4t0r hz6DfUW6LQVQTfv2ac65WuamlCqKdLBCMNA4XoOMCnwsHbTSNsdTm4swKuwBue/h cyscr1+KjRROMFTGZyZG17yFH81hqR/OcQEgfu0XfmIsraoY2I/5LIT6JTg4WZ8M xMuDN6/FG2x5D41hQsf92mtrhqpqqyrRFhn56sowXCTmPi+5pRN5aeDK9T0jQHub 7OHEVaauLrnGDulIEAvjNWnGPMKMozSBzX3742w1bXKNDYIFDIIL50SK4zjwdX3W yFC+CqH5adicbkvysOoPZBlPzemLQYkVi0Bk7WusuyWOiV3IxWg+c0M7gwdVk9LE K2M0M4SqB3R1FMJrTyn2oYcAijrUm3c68tjgbB7SVL8q2aesM3KY+e5rmX8rjXQZ fXE7uNApxNRXeA8/rHChcMkRPrrNI/SjSidumqqp5MPWQx++d6apmEnr1XXO0UWF mfzHKfzL4Bv+Te1RcsVIb1BrGfcsoHcyBkn0cUrr2fW5X0rpEkcgGPJneSpiWA7X mGkhTCLnBV4qXESUekpILPopmxkjiUANK8DCSLZAJa2Nz9E2RsmgHm3dmdemQlOQ sCFbKx+n3Kg= =ypEu -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51743c49.6020...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: problemas con thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 21:21, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió: También indicarte, si el fichero ejecutable está como 755, es decir: chmod +x ~/firefox/firefox - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXQ8wLuF9/q6J55WAQqCog//e7fBFm6HI4TcRel4lDaE7LBZ5fBoK2W3 LHqSBOC3PuUT1nB3Gm1iwKcsnwSyqtaXQriLTDnIdNWRdXa1BLGNs0Is8ewNOXFr zcCNvR5/y2xcPfPgbu/JWatjftJm3UPzbI/ooHJsL+L+XZqJo6jHXECQBn2qxyPl 67ulvQgg7jzKp0PIEChnTlWpZYctySV27ikGXpOhdaW0i2v+TBGBvn4XQ1ejGvlu 8Qly0cAh9SzeJO3p53/VRhjf6esFJl8mJCpmOGxiYbATdQrPQrLDpRKYjOVojDDp wgiHT6V1jE3ZNbhGz0VHvWzF5jdP7Bd5LyoL3UsYGvdfUijVpS4MWhKy0AvplIJr wOiHklwhIFr0+Nsl4siO4ATXegINFJKov6inj/+SqupJqC0TGdgbhAvzJq9uEwSY V3Ma115z4QSyD1itjhqc7Sc/WMEXfSUfJ/ggtD0DLEAck3f14Fvnes6L3YEk5itQ zlr/enW+1z/pPPsG5+2GIHinxyXqV9hw/vGn+a2HzOYNM3KRPFdvIZDNSan5YNH+ wfgtRHAg7Xmwsa+o/3hGDBSZCEpGT0DP1UnpmoRGcGsGExKqYA+5X5qvio32uvub z0aWg9A7/KCdaqUVVa0RHoKsTSe9QBiz69hplHx4T7PNIcFLLjhdI1sKkAyUKL/G emLjZrxkCtY= =bo/i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51743cc1.3010...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:36:10 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Las líneas que me aparecen en el grub-efi para el arranque normal son estas: (...) root=UUUID=3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595\db45b6d14 ro quiet ^^^ Ahí es donde puedes poner init=/bin/bash. En el GRUB2 para BIOS, si te pones sobre la línea del menú y pulsas la tecla e te permite editar esa línea para añadir los parámetros que quieras en tiempo real. La otra opción sería editar manualmente ese archivo desde una LiveCD o un entorno chrooteado, claro. Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl1ggm$j6$3...@ger.gmane.org
Re: problemas con thunderbird
El Sun, 21 Apr 2013 15:00:04 -0400, Gabriel Condori escribió: Hola gente! Ese html... Quería preguntar si alguien a tenido problemas con thunderbird o firefox ya que cuando intento ejecutarlo me dice: Falló al ejecutar el proceso hijo «~/firefox/firefox» (No existe el fichero o el directorio). tengo Debian Wheezy amd64 Veamos: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=Fall%C3%B3+al+ejecutar+el+proceso+hijo+%2Ffirefox%2Ffirefox+(No+existe+el+fichero+o+el+directorio) :-) Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl1gm3$j6$4...@ger.gmane.org
Re: problemas con thunderbird
sip ya revisé y nada 2013/4/21 Santiago José López Borrazás sjlop...@gmail.com -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 21:21, Santiago José López Borrazás escribió: También indicarte, si el fichero ejecutable está como 755, es decir: chmod +x ~/firefox/firefox - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXQ8wLuF9/q6J55WAQqCog//e7fBFm6HI4TcRel4lDaE7LBZ5fBoK2W3 LHqSBOC3PuUT1nB3Gm1iwKcsnwSyqtaXQriLTDnIdNWRdXa1BLGNs0Is8ewNOXFr zcCNvR5/y2xcPfPgbu/JWatjftJm3UPzbI/ooHJsL+L+XZqJo6jHXECQBn2qxyPl 67ulvQgg7jzKp0PIEChnTlWpZYctySV27ikGXpOhdaW0i2v+TBGBvn4XQ1ejGvlu 8Qly0cAh9SzeJO3p53/VRhjf6esFJl8mJCpmOGxiYbATdQrPQrLDpRKYjOVojDDp wgiHT6V1jE3ZNbhGz0VHvWzF5jdP7Bd5LyoL3UsYGvdfUijVpS4MWhKy0AvplIJr wOiHklwhIFr0+Nsl4siO4ATXegINFJKov6inj/+SqupJqC0TGdgbhAvzJq9uEwSY V3Ma115z4QSyD1itjhqc7Sc/WMEXfSUfJ/ggtD0DLEAck3f14Fvnes6L3YEk5itQ zlr/enW+1z/pPPsG5+2GIHinxyXqV9hw/vGn+a2HzOYNM3KRPFdvIZDNSan5YNH+ wfgtRHAg7Xmwsa+o/3hGDBSZCEpGT0DP1UnpmoRGcGsGExKqYA+5X5qvio32uvub z0aWg9A7/KCdaqUVVa0RHoKsTSe9QBiz69hplHx4T7PNIcFLLjhdI1sKkAyUKL/G emLjZrxkCtY= =bo/i -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51743cc1.3010...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: problemas con thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 22:07, Gabriel Condori escribió: sip ya revisé y nada _Creo_ que ya te han dado una parte de búsquedas... Yo tengo también Firefox y me funciona. ¿Será que el Firefox no es para 64 bits? - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXRIE7uF9/q6J55WAQqtUA/9EFdyyVL6Bh7xEQ/KgAAVqJf/ZtqOmmGr f7oNXAvkPiRpVCT648KS4PrF53bAf03Myyi6hsS+PCy1qhjffFkB0p4kbCFZ1wZg uMPZX/xHO81fGF3aPBkba134AFj6KXUuS2Hdbqt8g4yVVHBYyD5wQeeSzdqMu+Wu afDJve/VzH92nHL8KbCSAUKqK6D/TyKDS7cspvD4gcWPe8AkkSNskSiwolkwWfhU UoqPsRfTCArIJwCDdU+X879HXPovDF8mPly2D02MGzH0Cd0J5p98jS6y5wHxo+8r XkObfxn1vsWP2Ytmk9cGI4BMEsCRspIJRXGTygIRvsD20/uPkHo0GBTu35qgsPPD 7ustRyehGrbMvCPbugXvg9iT+i6SOLbwOCxNfYzgGgPjuCQ8XMugng0yEgnps5cE 3kM/RiQa0GAMABssZhtuKUr3cJ481veZadAl3GfFqUt3HAd1oGdjr1tPFA8jdz7/ YfuyIHgXpkDLV2/3AyMvM4JK6kmlisdZCNWhODwAgi4u9I5CNw/eV48V6cFYJtij msSc+GGsec8uTWTHU8ykMEYQebV30RkHcWZtZsq2gpYFtULvxQdeYf8YI+bFcp6g UP8X2htyBLoy5LH+DyhTVkjHcw4IgHwyJoM4p8uLaBO8IFwId3+gnBMaluh6MBA6 LS8lwLQWUj4= =Tbge -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51744814.8080...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: problemas con thunderbird
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 El 21/04/13 22:07, Gabriel Condori escribió: sip ya revisé y nada Además, de ver el mensaje, también lo recibo vía correo. Menos mal, que lo mando directamente a la lista/grupo. ;-) - -- Saludos de Santiago José López Borrazás. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- iQIVAwUBUXRLULuF9/q6J55WAQqMMw/8CeygVEjDvs4YyUzAZUBkELAGleyCoLA4 V6MT3rjknLkxCdWdt/Dx+pZ78RaPLdg5QOTLUefom/8zAGO4Bw4ciR80eXhhxOre +8ZF3L2fmBwZ69I56+Y7ND5tZx3Ve2+CUdww+SQHEQwnQeJ2dxK4ofKik4A/gG+G +xajYqlKBVcvtAjvKhV8DzTcKazcHAM2fXBSwFZ7l1IRft0al8kS9qoQQaoaqrhR HwVXRzFMQFNQfALqgoLo+EswFX8Sguhbzlu8KDPMW29S6N2UUxquaD5wIAD6e/P6 ZX87kydHYiXKdX+4bxsVxHg/sLx9QJ8JX2qEIiuesQg4yF0F350z09q3hYOjIKGA rDFq4vsX1UNrsQL/mA1CIABhpbDVwJ8MtdCjrMwalEXeAxiNpP/jVAuHYZj81KMJ 8zPotd/w92ovzHBNIaVKRYBAU7k4mJDTNSf/rxpvFr40BPDGc0xwVTDCFmToodHE hMjXYvHA10V+J/fY9o6bBOnCtFSWzuZ6+0RK7Gp0AVP2PzTXdwKWo0t91elqkadR tm4JwGnAQ/3mflHUX0b4nddUyltmnCghQVjF3yFr8SPmQFerRCB6FzfgqfFciP/2 uakXGkCYQOYLm7M1ARkRsypAUmUAb4B1TW5g9L2NAFpf3LOSPXCD9IsurhM/ttUe G4le5zggzlk= =jLMN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51744b50.9090...@sjlopezb.yahoo.es
Re: Restaurar respaldo de correos de Evolution
Hice una prueba con icedove, dentro el respaldo de evolution tengo dos directorios con correos, una llamada local y otro local_mbox. En este ultimo hay archivos que debian me indican que tienen formato de buzon de correo y algunos directorios.sbd. En el directorio llamado local tengo varios directorios que su nombre comienzan con .. y dentro de cada uno de ellos 3 directorios mas cur, new, y tmp. Entre esos dos directorios local y local_mbox, pude ver todos mi mails. Pero al copiarlos en a la estructura de directorios de icedove lo hice al .icedove/wp8xp4f7/default/Local Folders y .icedove/wp8xp4f7/default/smart mailboxes respectivamente. Cuando ejecuto icedove indexa los mails pero aun asi no me muestra todas las carpetas ni todos los mails que tenia en evolution. Este procedimiento lo encontre en parte de http://tranqui69.fluxers.com/?p=77 y el resto lo deduje. Puede ser que justamente por tener los mails en los dos formatos maildir y mbox simultaneamente en evolution haya creado el inconveniente de la restauracion del respaldo. Intentare pasar todo a un solo formato maildir o mbox segun sea conveniente o posible. Reviste muchisimos articulos en google sobre el tema casi todos optan por copiar manualmente los archivos y carpetas de un lugar al otro y listo. Bueno eso a mi no me funciono. Al final lo que hice fue Virtualizar un ubuntu y la opcion de restaurar respaldo funciona de maravillas. La diferencia esta en que debian squeeze tengo evolution 2.3 y Ubuntu 12.10 tenia evolution 3.20, por lo tanto el respaldo hecho es de una version posterior a la que tengo actualmente. La solucion creeria que es actualizar evolution a la 3.20 en debian, pero bueno. hasta el momento no encontre nada en google sobre ese tema, seguire buscando. El 20 de abril de 2013 10:56, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sat, 20 Apr 2013 09:51:36 +, Daniel Esteban Arias escribió: Camaleón noela...@gmail.com wrote: El Thu, 18 Apr 2013 19:48:47 -0300, darias escribió: Hola a todos, tengo problemas para restaurar una copia de seguridad de Evolution, lo hice desde un Ubuntu 12.10 a un Debian 6 Squeeze de la siguiente manera. (...) Bueno, así a bote pronto le veo dos alternativas: 1/ Descomprimir el tar.gz y copiar/pegar manualmente los correos en su ruta (no sé dónde almacena Evo los mensajes pero no debe ser complicado encontrarlo...). Ah, aquí está: https://help.gnome.org/users/evolution/stable/data-storage.html.es 2/ Si aún tienes acceso al Evo original, hacer el transpaso mediante una cuenta IMAP-puente, es más costoso pero te evitas incompatibilidades ya que es un sistema universal (funciona independientemente del cliente de correo, del formato de los mensajes o del servidor). (...) Aun no logro solucionar ¿Y qué es lo que has probado, exactamente? ya me lei la documentacion de evolution, pero no funciono lo que dice alli. ¿Y qué hiciste? Que no somos adivinos :-) Tambien utilice un script llamado mb2md para pasar todo a un solo formato maildir el resultado lo probe nuevamente en evolition y en icedove pero no tuve exito. Mala idea. Me parece que ni Evolution ni Icedove trabajan de manera nativa con maildir sino con mbox. No tengo acceso al evolution original. Pero podria virtualizar un ubuntu 12.10 y ver de restaurar alli el respaldo q tengo para hacer nuevamente un puente IMAP. Puedes virtualizar o puedes usar una LiveCD, sí. La idea es que cargues los datos correctamente y después vayas copiando los correos (copia, nunca muevas los correos para mantener siempre los datos originales disponibles) al equipo donde tienes Debian a través de una cuenta IMAP local para que el proceso sea más rápido. Los contactos, las tareas y el calendario podrás exportarlos/importarlos después. Alguna otra propuesta u opinion?. ¿Más? Jo, pues no sé, creo que te he dicho todas las opciones/ideas que se me ocurren :-? Saludos, -- Camaleón -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kku6r5$ti6$2...@ger.gmane.org -- i...@dariassoft.com.ar daniel_esteban_ar...@yahoo.com.ar 3875730128 - 3874256692 daniel_esteban_ar...@hotmail.com
Re: Fwd: Patinazo con la gráfica AMD
El día 21 de abril de 2013 22:00, Camaleón noela...@gmail.com escribió: El Sun, 21 Apr 2013 20:36:10 +0200, J. OCTAVIO Avalos escribió: Las líneas que me aparecen en el grub-efi para el arranque normal son estas: (...) root=UUUID=3784ba8a-a226-4e6d-a9c7-595\db45b6d14 ro quiet ^^^ Ahí es donde puedes poner init=/bin/bash. En el GRUB2 para BIOS, si te pones sobre la línea del menú y pulsas la tecla e te permite editar esa línea para añadir los parámetros que quieras en tiempo real. La otra opción sería editar manualmente ese archivo desde una LiveCD o un entorno chrooteado, claro. Si, con el GRUB-EFI también se puede editar de la misma forma. En esa línea ¿lo pondría en vez de ro quiet? Un saludo -- Octavio Ávalos -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-spanish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAC+uy7hj6KK7VTE8_KyxVNqa_kQ12c8fesVÊ4mt63hamc...@mail.gmail.com
Fwd: Re: Debian SID amd64 não reconhece mais que 3.2GB de RAM
-- Mensagem encaminhada -- De: li...@juniorpolegato.com.br Data: 21/04/2013 07:01 Assunto: Re: Debian SID amd64 não reconhece mais que 3.2GB de RAM Para: China china.lis...@gmail.com Cc: Olá! Sabendo agora o chipset, lhe confirmo, ele suporta 4GB de endereçamento e a bios reserva 725MB para o barramento PCI, isto é, se colocar uma placa de vídeo de 1GB ou mais, já vai dar mer#$. Usando PAE ou sistemas de 64 bits, pode-se configurar na bios para não reservar esse espaço. Procurando no Google por PW945GCX 4GB reconhece 3, vem muita informação, numa delas, na página de resultados vi Em 20/04/2013 11:35, China china.lis...@gmail.com escreveu: Vamos lá: Não tem PAE no Kernel: root@desktop:~# grep -i PAE /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 root@desktop:~# grep -i pae /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 root@desktop:~# grep -i Pae /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 root@desktop:~# grep -i PAe /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 root@desktop:~# grep -i pAe /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 root@desktop:~# grep -i pAE /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 root@desktop:~# grep -i paE /boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64 Minha placa mãe é essa aqui: root@desktop:~# dmidecode | more System Information Manufacturer: PCWARE Product Name: PW-945GCX Version: W/O version Serial Number: 1131 UUID: 00020003-0004-0005-0006-000700080009 Wake-up Type: Power Switch SKU Number: To Be Filled By O.E.M. Family: To Be Filled By O.E.M. http://www.pcwarebr.com.br/produtos_mb_pw945gcx.php Neste site http://www.tecnascimento.com/2012/06/como-resolver-problema-da-bios-da-placa-mae-pw-945gcx/ tem um tutorial de como atualizar a BIOS, mas não consegui fazer ainda porque não está funcionando o pendrive de boot que criei. Se essa atualização de BIOS resolver, beleza, se não deixo quieto... Hoje, com mais tempo, fucei todas as opções da BIOS e nenhuma funcionou para remapear a memória. Em 17 de abril de 2013 12:10, Linux - Junior Polegato li...@juniorpolegato.com.br escreveu: Em 16 de abril de 2013 21:44, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh h...@debian.org escreveu: Seu problema ou é o chipset, ou é o BIOS fazendo besteira. Não é PAE, e rodar em modo 32 bits, com ou sem PAE, não vai ajudar em nada. E o modo 64 bits é melhor, de qualquer forma. Talvez x32 fosse mais apropriado ainda com tão pouca RAM, mas Debian não suporta [ainda]. Olá! Realmente não sei dizer se o kernel AMD64 do Debian já vem com PAE habilitado, mas tenho certeza que com Windows isso ocorre, mesmo usando Win64, tem que habilitar PAE em algumas máquinas para reconhecer mais de 3GB de RAM. Quanto a tentar um kernel 32 bits com PAE habilitado, é só para tirar a dúvida mesmo... Cheguei a entrar no site da SpaceBR ( www.spacebr.com.br ) e tem os modelos da placas mãe que direciona para o site do fabricante, pelo que vi são ECS, PcWare e Megraware. Vamos esperar os testes... []'s Junior Polegato -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/516ebb77.2030...@juniorpolegato.com.br -- @chinabhz
Bug [?] suspender disco
Oi Em configurações na parte de energia, quando seleciono para suspender/hiberna o disco, ao fechar a tampa as vezes não funciona. E quando volto (abro a tampa do note) para começar a usar novamente, ele fica suspendendo sem minha permissão, apenas avisa q a ela está sendo desliga, para solucionar tenho q desativa a opção... e fazer td novamente. KDE v. 4.8.4 Debian Unstable/Experimental ? Acredito q seja um bug do KDE ou no pacote compilado para o Debian, ou até o noteboook (improvável) ? Albino -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+hF7LYui3QRZ2H16mUJn2a=KN9MqecWtY=4mar7thym9pm...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Debian SID amd64 não reconhece mais que 3.2GB de RAM
On Wed, 17 Apr 2013, Linux - Junior Polegato wrote: Realmente não sei dizer se o kernel AMD64 do Debian já vem com PAE habilitado, mas tenho certeza que com Windows isso ocorre, PAE é parte integrante do x86-64. Não existe x86-64 sem PAE, o long mode (modo 64-bits normal do x86) nem sequer funciona sem PAE. Portanto, como AMD64 e X86-64 são a mesma coisa, todos os kernels 64-bit para X86 são PAE. O que pode fazer diferença é tentar as várias opções do kernel para tentar corrigir besteirada do BIOS no mapa de memória e programação das bridges PCI. -- One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the darkness grind them. In the Land of Redmond where the shadows lie. -- The Silicon Valley Tarot Henrique Holschuh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-portuguese-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421152645.ga16...@khazad-dum.debian.net
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kurulmuş çekirdek önyükleme
Selamlar, 2012 marttan beri Debian kullanıyorum.Synaptikten sisteme kurduğum hazır derlenmiş çekirdekler, grub ekranında çıkmadı. Ne yapmam gerekir? Teşekkürler. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-turkish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304211748.29559.biobaga...@gmail.com
Re: kurulmuş çekirdek önyükleme
Ahmet Bey, grub'ı güncellediniz mi? root olarak update-grub olması gerekli yanlış hatırlamıyorsam. 21 Nisan 2013 17:48 tarihinde AhMeT BaGaTIR biobaga...@gmail.com yazdı: Selamlar, 2012 marttan beri Debian kullanıyorum.Synaptikten sisteme kurduğum hazır derlenmiş çekirdekler, grub ekranında çıkmadı. Ne yapmam gerekir? Teşekkürler. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-turkish-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304211748.29559.biobaga...@gmail.com
Re: Suggestions for Debian
Nathan, welcome to Debian! :) On 4/21/13, Nathan Owens ndowen...@gmail.com wrote: Where should we give suggestions on ideas? I would like to proprose the idea of maybe Debian offering a community repo like Arch Linux's AUR or does anybody know of a site that allows people to upload deb files to be shared with others? Seek the almighty Google for alternative repos, and you will find :) Have you installed Debian yet? are you aware that there are around 40,000 packages for the main Debian repositories already? And that does not count alternative debian repositories (hint hint ... google search .. nudge nudge). Debian ain't called The Unversal Operating System for nothing! It's a dream, a goal, a principle. For many of us it's a reality and has been for years. It's awesome! Are you interested in packaging some software that's not in Debian yet? It would be a good experience for you I'm sure. Anyway, this is as good a place as any to make suggestions. It just may be advisable (you sound rather newbie like, at least in Debian world) to don your flame proof clothing when you do post - there's a good and general expectation of civility, but occasionally someone might respond a bit terse, so just smile and move right on :) Good luck Zenaan PS http://wiki.debian.org/UnofficialRepositories might be of interest to you - since it's in the forefront of my mind, I'll save you that google search. Oh generous me :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsqbk8w9hesyyrmwtydjb7+7y_d2qeb9s0cbjo6z0w8...@mail.gmail.com
Alsa sounds too low
Hi, I think when I maximize all sound levels in alsamixer I get more less volume than I need. For example I wish to see movies on Youtube and maximize volume there too the sounds of movie are too low for hearing. How to solve this?
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
Patrick Bartek: I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as recommended[1] having been using dist-upgrade for upgrading it. My sources-list[2] is set to Wheezy and not testing as per those same instructions. When Wheezy is promoted to Stable should I switch to apt-get upgrade instead? Or does it really matter all that much? The main difference to keep in mind is that apt-get's upgrade operation will never change the set of installed packages. Ever. It will only upgrade already installed packages. No removals, no new packages. As the stable distribution mainly receives security updates, performing an upgrade is enough most of the time. (Point releases might be different.) I am running sid and habitually only run 'apt-get upgrade' because it is a quite safe thing to do. You can find many threads on debian-user from people who involuntarily removed half of their Gnome desktop because they didn't look closely what their dist-upgrade was about to do. This cannot happen when you only use the upgrade method. To put it short: irrespective of Debian flavour, my advice is to habitually perform upgrades and only use dist-upgrade when you see it is actually necessary in order to upgrade certain packages. J. -- I have been manipulated and permanently distorted. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Issue with VirtualBox + netinst
Hello all, I'm seeing the following issue with netinst (both 6.0.7 and 7.0 RC1) and VirtualBox (4.1.18_Ubuntu r78361): - the installer detects/configures the network normally, however when it comes to mirror selection it reports that the release might not be supported by this mirror for every mirror - the solution which worked for me: change the adapter to PCnet-PCI II (from the default Intel 100/1000) AND change the networking from NAT to Bridged My question is: - is there a bug for this in the bugtracker? (I searched around a little bit, but couldn't find anythin) - should I file a bug for this? If so, for which package? Regards, Attila Balazs -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173b24d.2000...@yahoo.com
Re: netconsole over pppoe
Wait... ppp says Plugin rp-pppoe.so loaded. Connected to 00:90:1a:... via interface eth0 peer from calling number 00:90:1A:... authorized local IP address 36.234... remote IP address 168.95... OK maybe I have all the information I need... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421102903.ga19...@ps11007.dreamhostps.com
Re: rootfs
Hello Roger, Excerpt from Roger Leigh: -- snip -- I hope this makes clear why I currently hold the position that /usr (*as a separately mountable filesystem*) is not a useful feature. I long held the opposite opinion very strongly, until I spent a good bit of time really considering the validity of all the assumptions behind why we consider it useful, and came to the conclusion that it was, for the most part, not useful in the slightest on a modern package managed system. I can very well recall the heated debates on debian-devel several years ago about this topic. When you said in the previous mail that you are working on moving /usr to the rootfs i thought oh oh an other valueable feature goes down the drain. But your argumentation has actually convinced me. -- Regards, Thilo 4096R/0xC70B1A8F 721B 1BA0 095C 1ABA 3FC6 7C18 89A4 A2A0 C70B 1A8F -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/kl0hns$al2$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Issue with VirtualBox + netinst
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Attila-Mihaly Balazs x_at_y_o...@yahoo.com wrote: the installer detects/configures the network normally, however when it comes to mirror selection it reports that the release might not be supported by this mirror for every mirror the solution which worked for me: change the adapter to PCnet-PCI II (from the default Intel 100/1000) AND change the networking from NAT to Bridged I'm not sure, but initally it looks like to me that it is an issue of accessing outside debian repositories from virtual box i.e.connection to outside world (public mirrors) is not possible. --Jaikumar
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do the same thing. However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade for aptitude). As for staying with Wheezy, why? I normally wait 3 - 6 months then switch to the new testing. This gives the developers time to fix the teething problems with all the new stuff that was held from Wheezy while it was being stabilized. By the time Wheezy becomes stable, the rest of the Linux world has moved on. Testing is what would be released with most other Linux distros. Unless you need the rock-solid stability of stable, i'd recommend spending most of your time with testing. On 21/04/13 12:29 AM, Patrick Bartek wrote: I've been using Wheezy 64-bit for several months now, and as recommended[1] having been using dist-upgrade for upgrading it. My sources-list[2] is set to Wheezy and not testing as per those same instructions. When Wheezy is promoted to Stable should I switch to apt-get upgrade instead? Or does it really matter all that much? This is my personal system, a desktop, and not a server. I intend to stay with Wheezy on this machine for the next 3 to 5 years. B [1] http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting [2] deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian wheezy contrib -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173d588.7050...@rogers.com
Re: netconsole over pppoe
Hello, jida...@jidanni.org a écrit : however I am on PPPOE over ADSL so # netstat -rn #just says Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 168.95.98.254 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 192.168.44.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 From Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt in the kernel source tree : some fundamental limitations will remain: only IP networks, UDP packets and *ethernet devices* are supported. A PPP or PPPoE interface is not an ethernet device, so unless the documentation is outdated, you cannot use ppp0. If you setup netconsole to send packets through eth0 to the PPPoE access concentrator MAC address, it is very unlikely they they will reach the remote server. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173d8c5.3000...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: .wav to text?
libpocketsphinx1 - Speech recognition tool - front-end library pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool pocketsphinx-hmm-en-hub4wsj - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-hmm-en-tidigits - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-hmm-zh-tdt - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-lm-en-hub4 - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-lm-zh-hans-gigatdt - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-lm-zh-hant-gigatdt - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files python-pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool - python bindings python-pocketsphinx-dbg - Speech recognition tool - python bindings libsphinxbase-dev - Speech recognition tool - development files libsphinxbase1 - Speech recognition tool - shared library python-sphinxbase - Speech recognition tool - python bindings python-sphinxbase-dbg - Speech recognition tool - python bindings (debug version) sphinxbase-utils - Speech recognition tool - development files python-sphinxcontrib.spelling - Sphinx spelling extension sphinxtrain - Speech recognition tool - training tool -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87ehe4uk8j@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: .wav to text?
On 4/21/13, John Hasler jhas...@newsguy.com wrote: libpocketsphinx1 - Speech recognition tool - front-end library pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool ... Which repo contains these packages? TIA Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsr5qyccdjj7zzcmzdydnlbfvwaaqznxb33z5szmdvw...@mail.gmail.com
Re: .wav to text?
Zenaan writes: Which repo contains these packages? I searched Unstable. I'm sure most or all are in Testing. I don't know which are in Stable. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87a9osuiwb@thumper.dhh.gt.org
Re: Alsa sounds too low
On 04/21/2013 03:57 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, I think when I maximize all sound levels in alsamixer I get more less volume than I need. For example I wish to see movies on Youtube and maximize volume there too the sounds of movie are too low for hearing. How to solve this? I solved that here by installing the volumeicon-alsa package. HTH -- Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173e63d.9060...@gmail.com
Partial resolution - was [Re: Three trials installing LILO - was [Re: Unexpected results attempting to install Squeeze(6.0.5) to USB flash drive]]
Richard Owlett wrote: I made three attempts to install using LILO as boot loader from most defaults to most customized: 1. install using all of the single install hard drive (using guided partitioning) 2. install to a logical partition after resizing partition created above 3. install to flash drive Installation choices common to all: install from DVD 1 of 8 of Debian 6.0.5 expert install generally accepting all defaults not installing any networking as none available select only standard utilities (i.e. chose neither Desktop nor Laptop) Install LILO to MBR of selected drive using large memory model Results: CASE 1 Installation ran to normal finish. On reboot I had a correct shell which accepted login. After executing su, I did apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted which ran to completion without error message(s) [warned that LBA32 addressing assumed] Installed system operated as expected. CASE 2 Installation ran to normal finish. On reboot I had a correct shell which accepted login. After executing su, I did apt-get install gnome-session gdm3 gedit gnome-terminal gparted which ran to completion without error message(s) [warned that LBA32 addressing assumed] Installed system operated as expected, *EXCEPT* no way to boot the first installation. CASE 3 booting from flash drive hung in ash shell with prompt (inittramfs) lilo.conf from flash drive [I've deleted most commented out lines and blank lines] # Automatically added by lilo postinst script large-memory # boot=/dev/sdb # Specifies the device that should be mounted as root. (`/') # root=/dev/sdb1 # Specifies the location of the map file # map=/boot/map # Specifies the number of deciseconds (0.1 seconds) LILO should # wait before booting the first image. # delay=20 # Boot up Linux by default. # default=Linux image=/vmlinuz label=Linux read-only #restricted #alias=1 initrd=/initrd.img image=/vmlinuz.old label=LinuxOLD read-only optional #restricted #alias=2 initrd=/initrd.img.old Two gotcha's found: delay=20 was too small, changed to delay=300 to give 30 seconds prompt was commented out, un-commenting allowed menu to display Problem with Case 3 is unresolved. I suspect that is related to installing a removable device. [although written to address a different problem http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2010/09/msg00248.html has started me thinking] -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173ec93.3090...@cloud85.net
Re: .wav to text?
On 04/21/2013 08:58 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: On 4/21/13, John Haslerjhas...@newsguy.com wrote: libpocketsphinx1 - Speech recognition tool - front-end library pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool ... Which repo contains these packages? TIA Zenaan They are in Wheezy. wtopa@dj:~$ apt-cache search Speech recognition tool w3-recs - Recommendations of the World Wide Web Consortium (W3C) gstreamer0.10-pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool - gstreamer plugin libpocketsphinx-dev - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files libpocketsphinx1 - Speech recognition tool - front-end library pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool pocketsphinx-hmm-en-hub4wsj - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-hmm-en-tidigits - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-hmm-zh-tdt - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-lm-en-hub4 - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-lm-zh-hans-gigatdt - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files pocketsphinx-lm-zh-hant-gigatdt - Speech recognition tool - front-end library development files python-pocketsphinx - Speech recognition tool - python bindings python-pocketsphinx-dbg - Speech recognition tool - python bindings libsphinxbase-dev - Speech recognition tool - development files libsphinxbase1 - Speech recognition tool - shared library python-sphinxbase - Speech recognition tool - python bindings python-sphinxbase-dbg - Speech recognition tool - python bindings (debug version) sphinxbase-utils - Speech recognition tool - development files sphinxtrain - Speech recognition tool - training tool -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5173eda9.2050...@gmail.com
Re: Alsa sounds too low
Wayne Topa 2013. április 21., vasárnap napon a következőt írta: On 04/21/2013 03:57 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, I think when I maximize all sound levels in alsamixer I get more less volume than I need. For example I wish to see movies on Youtube and maximize volume there too the sounds of movie are too low for hearing. How to solve this? I solved that here by installing the volumeicon-alsa package. HTH -- Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/**5173e63d.9060...@gmail.comhttp://lists.debian.org/5173e63d.9060...@gmail.com And what to do after installed this package?
Re: Alsa sounds too low
On 04/21/2013 03:57 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, I think when I maximize all sound levels in alsamixer I get more less volume than I need. For example I wish to see movies on Youtube and maximize volume there too the sounds of movie are too low for hearing. How to solve this? You probably need an audio reproduction system with more gain (external to the computer). I have one computer with a Logitech system, consisting of two small speakers and a subwoofer, which has its own amplifier and tone control Another computer I use is connected to a true hi-fi audio system, with a stereo amplifier and two large floor-standing speaker cabinets. This second one really sounds excellent, and the Logitech system sounds pretty good. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. A.M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5174085d.1070...@optonline.net
Re: Serveur with encrypted partition : 2 steps boot.
Le 20/04/2013 23:37, Erwan David a écrit :
I have problems withe the documentation of poilcy-rc.d, mainly te fact
it seems to be for the sole usage of package maintainers, not of
administrators of the machine, (see the fact taht alternatives MUST be
used), and that I do not understand at all what an out-of-runlevel
action is.
Ok, here is a policy-rc.d which does not work :
#!/bin/sh
# /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d [options] initscript ID actions [runlevel]
# /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d [options] --list initscript ID [runlevel ...]
# See /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.policy-rc.d for documentation.
# Live example scraped from ps:
# /bin/sh /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d x11-common stop unknown
###
if [ ! -r /etc/secure_services ]; then
# No secure service - Ok for everything
exit 0
fi
##
# Defines the secure mount point and the services which must be started
after
. /etc/secure_services
do_check(){
SERVICES=$SECURE_SERVICES
for test in $SECURE_SERVICES;do
if [ $1 = $test ];then
case $2 in
*start*)
if mountpoint -q $SECURE_MOUNTPOINT; then
exit 0
else
exit 101
fi;;
*)
exit 0
esac
fi
done
exit 0
}
if [ X$SECURE_MOUNTPOINT = X -o X$SECURE_SERVICES = X ];then
# no secure mount point or no secure service defined - Ok for
everything
exit 0
fi
while [ $# -gt 0 ]; do
case $1 in
--list) exit 101 ;;
--quiet) shift ;;
-*) shift ;;
*) service=$1
actions=$2
do_check $service $actions
esac
done
###
# default
exit 101
And my /etc/secure_services is
#
# Mount point of encrypted file system
SECURE_MOUNTPOINT=/secure
# Services which need the encrypted file system
# space separated, they will be started in the order of the variable
SECURE_SERVICES=postgresql dspam slapd dovecot postfix
But services in SECURE_SERVICES are started, so there is something I do
not understand in what the script should do.
I checked : if /secure is not mounted, /usr/sbin/policy-rc.d postgresql
start terminates on exit 101, which should prevent the start.
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Re: .wav to text?
I suppose, they are more in unstable. :) Hans -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304211754.45383.hans.ullr...@loop.de
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 08:03:20AM -0400, Gary Dale wrote: I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do the same thing. However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade for aptitude). The point is, you are *SAFER* using upgrade. Using dist-upgrade can remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG! I recommend that new users follow Jochen's advice. -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421160318.GB1290@tal
Re: Alsa sounds too low
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 04:26:01PM +0200, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: And what to do after installed this package? [volumeicon-alsa] Without installing it myself, (as I've never had any trouble with volume): If you install a package and once it is installed you have no idea what to do afterwards, I suggest: 1) dpkg -L volumeicon-alsa This will list the files of this package. There should be some files under /usr/share/doc/volumeicon-alsa/ which should help. The dpkg -L volumeicon-alsa command should also list any man pages. Sometimes there is a separate doc package. Sometimes you have to hunt out how to use the package from the Internet, I kid you not!! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421161501.GC1290@tal
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do the same thing. However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade for aptitude). The point is, you are *SAFER* using upgrade. Using dist-upgrade can remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG! I recommend that new users follow Jochen's advice. This might only apply to Ubuntu but I am sure I have had packages such as kernels with security related updates that needed dist-upgrade to install. So perhaps safer isn't quite the right word. I usually use dist-upgrade and I wonder if using upgrade will allow me to install updates without pulling in jockey and so polkit for steam-launcher. Of course it is no fix but will allow me to stay secure and ignore the problem for now until I do need a dist-upgrade or use equiv. -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421184143.3fe98...@kc-sys.chadwicks.me.uk
Re: Alsa sounds too low
On 04/21/2013 10:26 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Wayne Topa 2013. április 21., vasárnap napon a következőt írta: On 04/21/2013 03:57 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, I think when I maximize all sound levels in alsamixer I get more less volume than I need. For example I wish to see movies on Youtube and maximize volume there too the sounds of movie are too low for hearing. How to solve this? I solved that here by installing the volumeicon-alsa package. HTH -- Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/__5173e63d.9060...@gmail.com http://lists.debian.org/5173e63d.9060...@gmail.com And what to do after installed this package? In my case I put volumeicon in my .xinitrc and when I bring up X, using fluxbox as my WM, I look for the programs icon, a speaker, and adjust the volume to the level I desire. As you did not let the list know what WM or Version you are running. I gave you the bone and thought you might do some searching for how to use it with whatever WM 'you' are using. Smart questions get Smart (informed) answers and your question was not Smart because you assumed we know everything we need to know to help you. -- Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51741be0.7060...@gmail.com
Re: Alsa sounds too low
Wayne Topa 2013. április 21., vasárnap napon a következőt írta: On 04/21/2013 10:26 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Wayne Topa 2013. április 21., vasárnap napon a következőt írta: On 04/21/2013 03:57 AM, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: Hi, I think when I maximize all sound levels in alsamixer I get more less volume than I need. For example I wish to see movies on Youtube and maximize volume there too the sounds of movie are too low for hearing. How to solve this? I solved that here by installing the volumeicon-alsa package. HTH -- Wayne -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/__**5173e63d.9060...@gmail.comhttp://lists.debian.org/__5173e63d.9060...@gmail.com http://lists.debian.org/**5173e63d.9060...@gmail.comhttp://lists.debian.org/5173e63d.9060...@gmail.com And what to do after installed this package? In my case I put volumeicon in my .xinitrc and when I bring up X, using fluxbox as my WM, I look for the programs icon, a speaker, and adjust the volume to the level I desire. As you did not let the list know what WM or Version you are running. I gave you the bone and thought you might do some searching for how to use it with whatever WM 'you' are using. Smart questions get Smart (informed) answers and your question was not Smart because you assumed we know everything we need to know to help you. -- Wayne I use Gnome 2 WM and I get the volume adjust icon on my panel but - as I wrote before - its already in maximized volume but there is not enough always.
/dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Hi folks! I need create a block file, later use it like archive (with dm). What is better use? /dev/random or /dev/urandom? thanks! Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517421c9.1040...@fuckaround.org
Re: /dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Pol Hallen: Hi folks! I need create a block file, later use it like archive (with dm). What is better use? /dev/random or /dev/urandom? Define better. /dev/random is cryptographically more secure. /dev/random is faster. J. -- I lust after strangers but only date people from the office. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Debian + UEFI + Install w/ USB Key
Hi list, I'm building my new system and I'm wishing to install Debian on it. It's reasonably new and the motherboard has this UEFI thing that pisses lots of people around. I'm no exception. I tried to install Debian Wheezy with a USB key, using the 'dd' way but, even trying different versions of the installer, I always got a Insert boot media message when trying to boot from the USB with (at least in theory) Debian installer on it. I have a laptop with Ubuntu installed and could manage to make a USB startup disk with its own utility (in the same key as I tried to put Debian on) and it boots OK and even lets me install Ubuntu 12.10 with no problems and boots in just 15 seconds (it is installed on a SSD drive). I read about the new Debian 7 installer solving some issues with UEFI hardware, but I think the problem of not booting the installer relies on the 'dd way' of setting up the USB key, because Ubuntu's tool at the end installs a bootloader and a persistent partition if you wish. Anybody has any tip on how to correctly make a USB install working (booting, at least) on a UEFI motherboard*? Any issues with the current installer to take into account with UEFI, partition tables and so on? Many thanks in advance for your time! Kind regards, Fran * the motherboard itself is an Asrock Z77 Extreme4-M, with no possibility of getting a BIOS 'downgrade'.
Re: /dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Define better. better = secure (high level of security) :-) /dev/random is cryptographically more secure. do you mean /dev/urandom is [...]? /dev/random is faster. thanks! Pol -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51742a1f.3010...@fuckaround.org
Re: /dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Hello List, On 21/04/13 20:04, Pol Hallen wrote: Define better. better = secure (high level of security) :-) /dev/random is cryptographically more secure. do you mean /dev/urandom is [...]? /dev/random is faster. thanks! man 4 random Pol hth, Jerome -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51742e12.5030...@rezozer.net
Growing md0 by larger disk - which is best method.
I have a mdadm implemented raid5 with 3 disks (2x 3TiB and 1x 2TiB). Each disk has one partition only for the full size of that disk and the partitions are then combined in to md0. I like to swap out the 2TiB with a new 3TiB. While I do not expect issue with this, a lot of reading about unrecoverable errors spooked me a little on the rebuild/resync. Further, I think it is silly that we need to read all the disks in the original array as part of resync (in a fail+remove+add method of changing disks) Is there a way to avoid resync by doing a dd from 2TB on to the *new* 3TB and then reassembling the array? I mean this 1. shutdown 2. add 3tb to the PC 3. boot using rescue disk and do not assemble the md0. 4. Copy partition table from one of old 3TiB on to the *new* 3TiB 5. dd 2TiB-part1 to *new* 3TiB-part1 6. shutdown 7. disconnect 2TiB disk 8. restart to original OS on the disk to find the 3TiB as part of the reassemble 9. Grow the array to full size Since the above is not suggested anywhere I could find, I like to know what I am missing as this seems too easy to me. Ramesh -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51741da5.5010...@verizon.net
Re: /dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Pol Hallen a écrit : Define better. better = secure (high level of security) :-) /dev/random is cryptographically more secure. do you mean /dev/urandom is [...]? Not here. /dev/random is faster. But here. /dev/random is more random. /dev/urandom is faster. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/51742bdd.40...@plouf.fr.eu.org
Re: /dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Hi folks! I need create a block file, later use it like archive (with dm). What is better use? /dev/random or /dev/urandom? thanks! Pol You might want to install haveged. You can use that directly without affecting your system entropy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/517421c9.1040...@fuckaround.org -- ___ 'Write programs that do one thing and do it well. Write programs to work together. Write programs to handle text streams, because that is a universal interface' (Doug McIlroy) ___ -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421205142.41dfa...@kc-sys.chadwicks.me.uk
Re: /dev/random vs /dev/urandom
Pascal Hambourg: Pol Hallen a écrit : /dev/random is cryptographically more secure. do you mean /dev/urandom is [...]? Not here. /dev/random is faster. But here. /dev/random is more random. /dev/urandom is faster. Exactly, thanks. My 'u' key gets stck sometimes. :) J. -- I have never been happier than I am now; a fact which depresses me immensely. [Agree] [Disagree] http://www.slowlydownward.com/NODATA/data_enter2.html signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Serveur with encrypted partition : 2 steps boot.
Erwan David wrote: Bob Proulx a écrit : Erwan David wrote: update-rc.d dovecot disable 2 reboot, indeed dovecot is not started telinit 3 dovecot does not start (even if there is a Sxxdovecot in /etc/rc3.d) Hmm... It should start. I just tested this on a service locally and it starts for me. are you sure it isn't starting due to the presence of a new policy-rc.d script? :-) Coming back after some testing and interrupts... No, there is no policy-rc.d script, so it's not the reason. I use a wheezy, with sysv-init if it makes a difference All I can say is that when I change runlevels it works for me. The start scripts (/etc/rc3.d/S* for runlevel 3 example) all are invoked and daemons launched there are started. I tested this on a pristine installation. If it doesn't work for you then there is something about your system that is different from a pristine installation. Something local. You will need to debug it. Check /etc/inittab and verify that the runlevels are still defined there. In any case... I wanted to add an additional comment. I have been thinking of doing something like this myself. I haven't done it yet but if I were implementing this then I think I would have the server contact a central machine elsewhere on the network to get the keys to decrypt and mount the encrypted partitions. I am not sure what the best mechanics would be to implement it. But I think as soon as networking came online I would have the remote server with the encrypted disks contact a different server that I controlled. Have it pull the keys for the partition from there. Then automatically mount the partitions. Then have it continue the boot process normally and start the daemons normally. I have no central machine on the network. I want to encrypt because the machine is hosted, thus I do not physically control it. And that would leave some problem of booting the key_bearing machine. This is still some dreamy brainstorming... This would mean that you would need two machines and those should be at different geographical locations. The further apart the better. That way if thieves stole one machine they would not get both of them. Individually each would be useless. The only information on the key_bearing machine would be the keys. As such those would not need to be on an encrypted disk. I wouldn't have that one need to be encrypted. Although you could and also have a way to manually enter the keys so that you could manually bring them up. Then if either machine were stolen you would be able to change the keys on the other machine. They keys are for boot time and not runtime and so compromise of the keys would not compromise the runtime of the system. You would just need to change the keys before the machine booted next. Of course you would need two machines. But for some of us there is always a spare machine somewhere on the net that could be used for this task and so that isn't a hardship. :-) Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Serveur with encrypted partition : 2 steps boot.
Erwan David wrote: I have problems withe the documentation of poilcy-rc.d, mainly te fact it seems to be for the sole usage of package maintainers, not of administrators of the machine, (see the fact taht alternatives MUST be used), and that I do not understand at all what an out-of-runlevel action is. That is simply to provide arbitration direction immediately to any package that wishes to provide a policy-rc.d. Otherwise how would that work? $ apt-file search policy-rc.d | grep sbin/policy-rc.d fai-nfsroot: /usr/bin/policy-rc.d.fai policyrcd-script-zg2: /usr/sbin/zg-policy-rc.d I only see two packages that provide a policy-rc.d script. If you don't install them then you won't conflict with them. Your machine, your rules, and all of that. Or you could select one of the alternative methods. You are blazing a trail. There is no pre-compiled correct answer. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Kevin Chadwick wrote: I always use dist-upgrade but there's not a lot a choose. Upgrade upgrades installed packages while dist-upgrade can make more significant changes. Once Wheezy becomes stable the two should do the same thing. However, I prefer to stay in the habit of using dist-upgrade (or full-upgrade for aptitude). The point is, you are *SAFER* using upgrade. Using dist-upgrade can remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG! I recommend that new users follow Jochen's advice. This might only apply to Ubuntu but I am sure I have had packages such as kernels with security related updates that needed dist-upgrade to install. I don't use Ubuntu, so wouldn't know. This may happen, sure. In that case it is obvious. But I think you are missing the point as to why it is better to do an upgrade first *THEN IF NECESSARY* do dist-upgrade. So perhaps safer isn't quite the right word. No. safer is the right word! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421193030.GA5971@tal
Re: Alsa sounds too low
On Sun, Apr 21, 2013 at 07:14:59PM +0200, Gábor Hársfalvi wrote: I use Gnome 2 WM and I get the volume adjust icon on my panel but - as I wrote before - its already in maximized volume but there is not enough always. Have you tried running: # alsamixer as root, and checking the levels? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing. --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421193401.GB5971@tal
Re: Issue with VirtualBox + netinst
Attila-Mihaly Balazs wrote: I'm seeing the following issue with netinst (both 6.0.7 and 7.0 RC1) and VirtualBox (4.1.18_Ubuntu r78361): - the installer detects/configures the network normally, however when it comes to mirror selection it reports that the release might not be supported by this mirror for every mirror Sounds like a DNS or NAT failure. Or you might have a firewall that is blocking. You are using a mirror name such as ftp.us.debian.org? Check your /etc/resolv.conf file and verify that you can look up hostnames correctly. Verify that you can look up the mirror correctly. Then verify that you can see the files there correctly. I would use lynx for that but wget/curl works too. If you have a firewall blocking then of course it won't work. This following should return a README file. wget -O- http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/README If the NAT in your VirtualBox is the same subnet as the real subnet your host is connected to then of course NAT will fail terribly. It must be a unique subnet. - the solution which worked for me: change the adapter to PCnet-PCI II (from the default Intel 100/1000) AND change the networking from NAT to Bridged Yes. Because that removes both DNS and NAT from the configuration. With bridged networking the vm will be using on your subnet directly. But with NAT it will be one layer behind it. But when using bridged then the dhcp will be using your host subnet dhcp server instead. Typically when using NAT there will be dnsmasq-base installed and it will be setting up DHCP and DNS. But I find that dnsmasq-base doesn't set up a default domain name. That causes this to fail for me when trying to use my local mirror. To avoid this a simple solution is to configure a static IP address. That avoids the dnsmasq-base dhcp issues and you can configure your dns server manually. Verify that dnsmasq-base is even installed for you. Perhaps your configuration is expecting to use it and it isn't actually installed. In Debian it is only a Recommends: relationship and wouldn't get pulled in if you were avoiding recommends. My question is: - is there a bug for this in the bugtracker? (I searched around a little bit, but couldn't find anythin) - should I file a bug for this? If so, for which package? I use KVM all of the time and all I can say is that it works there. But dnsmasq-base doesn't set a default domain name. If you file a bug be sure to file it to the right tracker. Ubuntu for the Ubuntu portions. Or Debian for the Debian portions. I don't know if you are using it but the most likely candidate for a problem is dnsmaq-base. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
On Sunday 21 April 2013 17:03:18 Chris Bannister wrote: Using dist-upgrade can remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG! I use aptitude not apt-get, so cannot comment on apt-get, but the aptitude full-upgrade command does nothing without asking first, so there is no question of it removing half your system before you can say OMG. I therefore only use safe upgrade when I want to do at least a partial upgrade but do not want something specific removed which full-upgrade is threatening to remove. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/201304212252.39294.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: what's your Debian uptime?
On 2013-04-20 19:24:00 -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: Vincent Lefevre wrote: That's theory. In practice, old machines get no longer supported... I submitted a bug report (and a patch), but AFAIK the bug has never been fixed. I upgraded everything except the kernel, without being sure I could boot it again (udev incompatibilities...). That's why the machine was no longer rebooted. And if you get into a situation where the machine reboots whether you desire it or not? Power, cosmic ray hit, dead cooling fan, other? It was a laptop, so that power wasn't a problem. A hardware failure wuld have meant that the machine would be probably dead anyway (after the last boot the laptop was already more than 8 year old). This is actually what happened a few months ago: strange noises from the disk and I/O errors... It happens. Even with UPS mains and redundant power supplies. Hardware doesn't last forever. Will it boot? If so then great. If not then you have a nasty problem to sort out and the machine is down until you do. I would rather know about it on my schedule rather than its schedule. Even if there were a software problem, I wouldn't have wasting my time to try to fix it for a machine that was almost no longer used (mainly just for portability testing), in particular if the machine couldn't boot. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421223223.gg9...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: Dist-upgrade or upgrade. Which?
On 2013-04-21 22:52:39 +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Sunday 21 April 2013 17:03:18 Chris Bannister wrote: Using dist-upgrade can remove half your sysytem before you can say OMG! I use aptitude not apt-get, so cannot comment on apt-get, but the aptitude full-upgrade command does nothing without asking first, so there is no question of it removing half your system before you can say OMG. Ditto with apt-get when packages need to be installed or removed in addition to those listed on the command line. -- Vincent Lefèvre vinc...@vinc17.net - Web: http://www.vinc17.net/ 100% accessible validated (X)HTML - Blog: http://www.vinc17.net/blog/ Work: CR INRIA - computer arithmetic / AriC project (LIP, ENS-Lyon) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130421223739.gh9...@xvii.vinc17.org
Re: .wav to text?
On 4/22/13, Hans-J. Ullrich hans.ullr...@loop.de wrote: I suppose, they are more in unstable. :) I got bitten by 3 things: a) I am running a local repo (slow rural link, so I update at a friends every few weeks or so to a usb drive); b) Pocketsphinx has only come into the main repo relatively recently; c) When I went to packages.debian.org, at the top was a search bar, so I naturally enough searched for pocketsphinx, and got no results. Thus, my question of where are these packages :) Thanks all, Zenaan PS the p.d.org site does have a packages search field, but it's further down the page, and that doesn't display without scrolling on a normal FHD monitor; the top search bar only searches the debian.org website it seems. Today, pocketsphinx website search _did_ come up with one result, pointing at the QA site. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSRycUuvo_3mtuAZYYDLWncH7h4SLEbpV-ftL7A62jfv=g...@mail.gmail.com
Re: netconsole over pppoe
On 4/21/13, Pascal Hambourg pas...@plouf.fr.eu.org wrote: jida...@jidanni.org a écrit : however I am on PPPOE over ADSL so # netstat -rn #just says Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 168.95.98.254 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 192.168.44.00.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 From Documentation/networking/netconsole.txt in the kernel source tree : some fundamental limitations will remain: only IP networks, UDP packets and *ethernet devices* are supported. A PPP or PPPoE interface is not an ethernet device, so unless the documentation is outdated, you cannot use ppp0. If you setup netconsole to send packets through eth0 to the PPPoE access concentrator MAC address, it is very unlikely they they will reach the remote server. So tun/tap? vtun (or openvpn if you want encryption, or just a modern ssh with local tun/tap support), or perhaps etherpuppet? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSrAC=ybZE+YJ7a7PQrsj=qac8qpkkrxzj1rw6hgif...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Serveur with encrypted partition : 2 steps boot.
Erwan David wrote: Ok, here is a policy-rc.d which does not work : Since I led you down this road I set up a test system. I have been using policy-rc.d in chroots seemlingly forever and they definitely work there. They definitely prevent package upgrades from starting daemons. invoke-rc.d: policy-rc.d denied execution of restart. But that is through dpkg and postinst scripts. When I set up a test VM system and booted it I was shocked to find that it didn't work. Just like you found the daemons were still started at boot time. Starting Postfix Mail Transport Agent: postfix. Am I completely misunderstanding the documentation on this? Maybe. If so then I am sorry for misleading you along with me. I am researching the problem. I think this is completely against the documented interface. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Unstable release is expired
root@mundo:/home/charles# apt-get update Get:1 http://debian.lcs.mit.edu testing Release.gpg [836 B] Get:2 http://mirror.anl.gov unstable Release.gpg [836B] Get:3 http://debian.lcs.mit.edu unstable Release.gpg [836B] Hit http://mirror.anl.gov unstable Release Get:4 http://debian.lcs.mit.edu experimental Release.gpg [836 B] E: Release file for http://mirror.anl.gov/debian/dists/unstable/Release is expired (invalid since 23h 14min 9s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. Is this only for the anl.gov/debian/dist/unstable/ or does it mean (all) /unstable/Release is expired. Anyone else running unstable get this kind of message? -- CK -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/atjj9efl6e...@mid.individual.net
Re: Debian + UEFI + Install w/ USB Key
On 21/04/13 01:50 PM, Fran R. Guerrero wrote: Hi list, I'm building my new system and I'm wishing to install Debian on it. It's reasonably new and the motherboard has this UEFI thing that pisses lots of people around. I'm no exception. I tried to install Debian Wheezy with a USB key, using the 'dd' way but, even trying different versions of the installer, I always got a Insert boot media message when trying to boot from the USB with (at least in theory) Debian installer on it. I have a laptop with Ubuntu installed and could manage to make a USB startup disk with its own utility (in the same key as I tried to put Debian on) and it boots OK and even lets me install Ubuntu 12.10 with no problems and boots in just 15 seconds (it is installed on a SSD drive). I read about the new Debian 7 installer solving some issues with UEFI hardware, but I think the problem of not booting the installer relies on the 'dd way' of setting up the USB key, because Ubuntu's tool at the end installs a bootloader and a persistent partition if you wish. Anybody has any tip on how to correctly make a USB install working (booting, at least) on a UEFI motherboard*? Any issues with the current installer to take into account with UEFI, partition tables and so on? Many thanks in advance for your time! Kind regards, Fran * the motherboard itself is an Asrock Z77 Extreme4-M, with no possibility of getting a BIOS 'downgrade'. I'm not sure if dd actually works to produce a bootable USB stick. I note for example that systemrescuecd doesn't do that. It uses syslinux to put Linux onto the stick and has another program called install-mbr to create an MBR. unetbootin also doesn't just dd something to the key. Have you tried using it to create a bootable USB stick with your favourite distro? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5174ab66.8040...@rogers.com
Re: Growing md0 by larger disk - which is best method.
On 21/04/13 01:11 PM, R. Ramesh wrote: I have a mdadm implemented raid5 with 3 disks (2x 3TiB and 1x 2TiB). Each disk has one partition only for the full size of that disk and the partitions are then combined in to md0. I like to swap out the 2TiB with a new 3TiB. While I do not expect issue with this, a lot of reading about unrecoverable errors spooked me a little on the rebuild/resync. Further, I think it is silly that we need to read all the disks in the original array as part of resync (in a fail+remove+add method of changing disks) Is there a way to avoid resync by doing a dd from 2TB on to the *new* 3TB and then reassembling the array? I mean this 1. shutdown 2. add 3tb to the PC 3. boot using rescue disk and do not assemble the md0. 4. Copy partition table from one of old 3TiB on to the *new* 3TiB 5. dd 2TiB-part1 to *new* 3TiB-part1 6. shutdown 7. disconnect 2TiB disk 8. restart to original OS on the disk to find the 3TiB as part of the reassemble 9. Grow the array to full size Since the above is not suggested anywhere I could find, I like to know what I am missing as this seems too easy to me. Ramesh The problem is the location of the superblocks. If you're prepared to have your system shut down for a while to copy the data, I suggest that you simply remove the 2T disk and add the 3T disk. You will still have your 2T disk so if something fails, you should be able to recover using it. This of course means that you cannot be using your system. The md array cannot be written to or the 2T drive will no longer be usable. So boot from a rescue disk and rebuild the array without mounting it or any partition on it until the rebuild has completed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/5174ad17.8050...@rogers.com
Re: netconsole over pppoe
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 09:14:02AM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote: So tun/tap? vtun (or openvpn if you want encryption, or just a modern ssh with local tun/tap support), or perhaps etherpuppet? I think I better wait for somebody to write the HOWTO for my usage case... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20130422033741.ga2...@ps11007.dreamhostps.com
Re: Unstable release is expired
Charles Kroeger wrote: E: Release file for http://mirror.anl.gov/debian/dists/unstable/Release is expired (invalid since 23h 14min 9s). Updates for this repository will not be applied. Is this only for the anl.gov/debian/dist/unstable/ or does it mean (all) /unstable/Release is expired. Means that mirror is stale. Use a different mirror. Try using ftp.us.debian.org for example. Anyone else running unstable get this kind of message? No. Not on an up to date mirror. Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Re: Growing md0 by larger disk - which is best method.
On 21/04/13 01:11 PM, R. Ramesh wrote: I have a mdadm implemented raid5 with 3 disks (2x 3TiB and 1x 2TiB). Each disk has one partition only for the full size of that disk and the partitions are then combined in to md0. I like to swap out the 2TiB with a new 3TiB. While I do not expect issue with this, a lot of reading about unrecoverable errors spooked me a little on the rebuild/resync. Further, I think it is silly that we need to read all the disks in the original array as part of resync (in a fail+remove+add method of changing disks) Is there a way to avoid resync by doing a dd from 2TB on to the *new* 3TB and then reassembling the array? I mean this 1. shutdown 2. add 3tb to the PC 3. boot using rescue disk and do not assemble the md0. 4. Copy partition table from one of old 3TiB on to the *new* 3TiB 5. dd 2TiB-part1 to *new* 3TiB-part1 6. shutdown 7. disconnect 2TiB disk 8. restart to original OS on the disk to find the 3TiB as part of the reassemble 9. Grow the array to full size Since the above is not suggested anywhere I could find, I like to know what I am missing as this seems too easy to me. Ramesh The problem is the location of the superblocks. If you're prepared to have your system shut down for a while to copy the data, I suggest that you simply remove the 2T disk and add the 3T disk. You will still have your 2T disk so if something fails, you should be able to recover using it. This of course means that you cannot be using your system. The md array cannot be written to or the 2T drive will no longer be usable. So boot from a rescue disk and rebuild the array without mounting it or any partition on it until the rebuild has completed. Thanks. I was thinking copy will be faster than rebuild. Further, it will avoid reading 4TB disk (of course, it will read 2TB when copying) I guess you are saying that the simple copying will not work. I was going to try experimenting with files and loop devices (I tried 2x 3G + 1x 2G files plus a new 3G file representing the new 3TB drive). However, after copying the files, loop thinks that the file representing new 3TB disk (or the new 3GB file) is really a 2TB disk. So, mdadm does not grow the array when using the new loop device. However, the file system was intact after copying and I could mount it etc. I just could not grow it to full 6TB. Ramesh
