Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[Anthony Campbell]

On 04 Jun 2013, John Hasler wrote:
> Anthony Campbell writes:
> > If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
> > were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
> > includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.
> 
> > Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these...
> 
> So don't.  It's merely informing you that those packages were
> automatically installed as dependencies and that no packages depending
> on them remain.  If you don't want to see the message mark the packages
> as manually-installed.
> 
> Because any developer can upload anything to Sid at any time without
> regard to dependencies it is not unusual to get funny-looking results
> when trying to install from it.  If you want to run Sid you need to
> understand a bit about the package-management system.  Read the man
> pages for apt, dpkg, & friends.  You also sometimes need to wait a bit
> before installing a new package.
> -- 
> John Hasler
> 

I do understand this. I've been using Sid for years (literally). But
although it's quite common to see a lot of necessary packages scheduled
for removal if you do dist-upgrade, I don't remember seeing it when
trying to install a new package.


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Re: Alsa sound errors

[Thierry Chatelet]

The Wednesday 05 June 2013 07:50:35, Marc Shapiro wrote :
> 
> So I swiched over to my wife's login and did the same thing:
> 
>   play /home/marc/public_html/footpain/media/montoya.wav
   
> 
> 
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Marc

Hi
Is your wife's name marc?
Thierry


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Re: Alsa sound errors

[Raffaele Morelli]

2013/6/5 Marc Shapiro 

> There are three people with logins to my desktop box -- myself, my wife
> and my daughter.  My daughter plays Flash games with sound all the time and
> has no problems.  I run YouTube videos and otherwise use sound with no
> problems.  My wife gets no sound whatsoever.  We used to have a problem
> with the sound being grabbed by something and then I would need to kill
> things manually, but I eliminated all KDE apps and that problem went away.
>  I think that was back when I was still running Etch, anyway.  When I need
> to verify that sound is working and not locked up, I just use 'play' with a
> .wav file.  My wife was just playing a video and getting no sound, so,
> under my login I ran:
>
> play /home/marc/public_html/**footpain/media/montoya.wav
>
> /home/marc/public_html/**footpain/media/montoya.wav:
>
>  File Size: 14.8k Bit Rate: 13.1k
>   Encoding: GSM
>   Channels: 1 @ 16-bit
> Samplerate: 8000Hz
> Replaygain: off
>   Duration: 00:00:09.04
>
> In:100%  00:00:09.04 [00:00:00.00] Out:434k  [  |  ] Clip:0
> Done.
>
> and, as you can see, it worked just fine.
>
> So I swiched over to my wife's login and did the same thing:
>
>  play /home/marc/public_html/**footpain/media/montoya.wav
> ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:985:(snd_pcm_dmix_**open) unable to create IPC
> semaphore
> play FAIL formats: can't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error:
> Permission denied
>
> As you can see, it failed.  Can anyone tell me just what is failing and
> how to correct it.  My first thought was that it was a permissions problem
> and perhaps she needed to be added to the 'audio' group, or some such, as
> she is only in her own group.  But then I checked my daughter's account.
>  She is also only in her own group; not in 'audio' or anything else.  So
> that ruled out that solution.  The error says 'Permission denied" however,
> so it is some kind of permissions problem, I just don't know what.
>
> Any help will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Marc


You should use
 ipc_key_add_uid TRUE

in your .asoundrc when defining dmix.

Details are in
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/alsa-lib/pcm_plugins.html

Regards
/r

Alsa sound errors

[Marc Shapiro]

There are three people with logins to my desktop box -- myself, my wife 
and my daughter.  My daughter plays Flash games with sound all the time 
and has no problems.  I run YouTube videos and otherwise use sound with 
no problems.  My wife gets no sound whatsoever.  We used to have a 
problem with the sound being grabbed by something and then I would need 
to kill things manually, but I eliminated all KDE apps and that problem 
went away.  I think that was back when I was still running Etch, 
anyway.  When I need to verify that sound is working and not locked up, 
I just use 'play' with a .wav file.  My wife was just playing a video 
and getting no sound, so, under my login I ran:


play /home/marc/public_html/footpain/media/montoya.wav

/home/marc/public_html/footpain/media/montoya.wav:

 File Size: 14.8k Bit Rate: 13.1k
  Encoding: GSM
  Channels: 1 @ 16-bit
Samplerate: 8000Hz
Replaygain: off
  Duration: 00:00:09.04

In:100%  00:00:09.04 [00:00:00.00] Out:434k  [  |  ] Clip:0
Done.

and, as you can see, it worked just fine.

So I swiched over to my wife's login and did the same thing:

 play /home/marc/public_html/footpain/media/montoya.wav
ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:985:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to create IPC semaphore
play FAIL formats: can't open output file `default': snd_pcm_open error: 
Permission denied


As you can see, it failed.  Can anyone tell me just what is failing and 
how to correct it.  My first thought was that it was a permissions 
problem and perhaps she needed to be added to the 'audio' group, or some 
such, as she is only in her own group.  But then I checked my daughter's 
account.  She is also only in her own group; not in 'audio' or anything 
else.  So that ruled out that solution.  The error says 'Permission 
denied" however, so it is some kind of permissions problem, I just don't 
know what.


Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Marc


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Trouble reinstalling everything.

[John Tate]

I am having trouble reinstalling everything I can't see anything wrong with
my sources list. I've noticed iceweasel has been held back for a while, is
there a problem with the repositories at present? If there isn't, how can I
solve this?

root@fekete:~# dpkg -l  | awk '/^i/ {print $2}' |xargs apt-get --reinstall
install
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Reinstallation of skype:i386 is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of linux-headers-3.2.39-amd64kintaro is not possible, it
cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of webmin is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of linux-image-3.2.39kintaro is not possible, it cannot be
downloaded.
Reinstallation of teamviewer is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of linux-headers-3.2.39kintaro is not possible, it cannot be
downloaded.
Reinstallation of ia32-crossover is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
Reinstallation of linux-image-3.2.39-amd64kintaro is not possible, it
cannot be downloaded.
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 iceweasel : Depends: libpango-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not installable
 Depends: libpangocairo-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not
installable
 Depends: libpangoft2-1.0-0 (>= 1.14.0) but it is not
installable
 Depends: xulrunner-22.0 (>= 22.0~b3-1) but it is not going to
be installed
E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.

root@fekete:~# cat /etc/apt/sources.list
deb http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib
deb-src http://ftp.au.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib

deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib
deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main non-free contrib

deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ experimental iceweasel-beta

deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free


I mostly want to reinstall everything to replace all the rc scripts used to
lower the likelihood of any rootkits being installed, along with anything
that has been messed with.

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Re (2): mkdosfs -C ...

[peasthope]

Since the original trial, the system was upgraded from 
Squeeze to Wheezy.  

From:   Klaus 
Date:   Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:54:46 +0100
> Increase block count a little, and hey presto:
> $ sudo mkdosfs -v -C FatFile2 1024
> mkdosfs 3.0.16 (01 Mar 2013)
> FatFile2 has 64 heads and 32 sectors per track,
> logical sector size is 512, ...

In Wheezy I fare no better than in Squeeze.
root@dalton:~# mount | grep sdb
/dev/sdb1 on /media/usb0 type vfat (rw,nodev,noexec,noatime,nodiratime,sync,fmas
k=0022,dmask=0022,codepage=cp437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,errors=remount-r
o)
root@dalton:~# ls -ld /media/usb0
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 16384 Jun  4 18:12 /media/usb0
root@dalton:~# mkdosfs -v -C /media/usb0/FatFile 1024
mkdosfs 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012)
mkdosfs: unable to create /media/usb0/FatFile

From:   Klaus 
Date:   Tue, 04 Jun 2013 08:48:22 +0100
> ... didn't understand why you used the -"C" option in this case 
> instead of just giving the device name ?

The intention is to make an empty file occupying the whole 
partition.  Then another filesystem can be mounted on that 
empty file; or "another filesystem can occupy that file" might 
be better terminology.  The -C option is explained briefly 
by man mkdosfs.  Loop device is explained in Wikipedia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device

Regards,   ... Peter E.

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Re: Dangerously high Load_Cycle_Count on my Thinkpad T61 Hitachi drive

[Celejar]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 22:20:20 -0300
Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:

> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013, Celejar wrote:
> > On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 21:54:09 -0300
> > Henrique de Moraes Holschuh  wrote:
> > > http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Problem_with_hard_drive_clicking
> > > 
> > > > 2) What should I do to attempt to preserve whatever life it has left?
> > > > hdparm -B 254/255? Anything else?
> > > 
> > > You need to issue that hdparm every time the box had any reason to change
> > > power policy to be sure it stuck.  So make sure to reissue it when waking
> > > up, and when AC power is connected/disconnected.
> > 
> > Thanks. Any ideas about why the load cycle count is so high and
> > increases so fast? I thought even -B 128 is a pretty standard value.
> > And would you recommend 254 or 255?
> 
> It will unload the heads when left idle for a few seconds, presumably so as
> to power off the head actuator.  Also, the HDD is much less prone to damage
> due to shock when the heads are unloaded...

Yes, I can understand why it would do that; I just thought that it
sounded rather aggressive, and I became chagrined about what that
portended for my HDD's life expectancy.

> > As to where to put the hdparm invocations, I suppose that writing an
> > "OnResume nn hdparm ..." directive in hibernate.conf will take care of
> > issuing it on wakeup, and setting all *_HD_POWERMGMT=254 in
> > laptop-mode.conf will take care of the AC power connect / disconnect
> > cases?
> 
> Laptop mode was enough to deal with it on my T43, yes.  Note that I
> configured it manually.
> 
> As for the 600k head unload limit on the Hitachi 7K60 and 7K100 HDDs, that
> value comes directly from the data sheet.

Thanks.

Celejar


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Re(2): Basic USB Automounter?

[peasthope]

From: Clive Standbridge 
Date: Thu, 17 Jan 2013 08:28:35 +
> usbmount does that job (although I haven't used it on a wheezy systemyet). 
> A small amount of configuration is needed - see the comments in 
> /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf 

I had the impression that responsibility for mounting was or is 
being shifted to udev.  Where is usbmount in the picture?

In Squeeze, a USB stick and a Sony Mylo both automounted with no  
adjustment to stock /etc/usbmount/usbmount.conf, if it even existed 
in the system.  During installation of Wheezy there was no mention 
of a change to usbmount.conf and I have no recollection of ever 
touching it.  

> MOUNTPOINTS="/media/usb0 ... 

In Squeeze, the USB stick automounted at /media/9D7C-BB83 
isn't consistent with usbmount.conf MOUNTPOINTS.  Still appears 
that something else is involved.

What in the squeeze _> wheezy upgrade has broken automounting?  
Has something changed in udev?  Other ideas?

Regards,   ... Peter E.



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Re: RAID1 all bootable

[Bob Proulx]

Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
> > > Did I miss something during the debian installation? Why wasn't grub
> > > automatically installed on both disks?
> >
> > Seems like it should have been.  I would file a bug against the
> > debian-installer or installation-reports.
>
> I started this thread not because grub on both disks should be by default
> but because I found difficulties in recovering. If I performed badly, and
> there is no problem in installing grub on the working disk, then I see no
> problem. There are many raids, not limited to raid1. Perhaps it is because
> of this that there is no default for raid1.

Hi Francesco.  For you I think the best suggestion was to use the
debian installer in rescue mode.  That is what I would have done.
That is one of the tasks it is there for.  Better to have things
working correctly on both disks.  But if that fails then using rescue
mode will allow an easy recovery too.

But if Alexandru is also seeing this and the bootloader isn't being
installed upon both disks when raid is configured by the installer
then I think that would still be a bug in the installer.

But I know I have seen the installer screen ask for the list of disks
to install the bootloader.  It has been a while and I don't recall
where exactly.  It might have only been in expert mode.  In any case
it seems like it should do this correctly when it is configuring
raid.  If someone had the time to investigate with a test installation
and then either filing a bug or an information update.  I lack the
resources at this moment however.

Bob


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Re: Debian 7 USB Drive Won't Work

[Brian]

On Tue 04 Jun 2013 at 15:01:08 -0300, André Nunes Batista wrote:

> +1 to unetbootin!

I'm sure this is a fine piece of software. But this is 2013 and we are
talking about installing Debian. The recommended, up-to-date and
trouble-free way of getting an ISO on a USB stick is with dd, cat or cp.
Use the isohybrid, Luke.

Nothing else is required. It works, and works well. One simple command
on a Linux machine. Couldn't be easier. There is absolutely no need for
external programs; especially ones which chew up, rearrange and spit out
something which distorts the original Debian product. 'It boots into
d-i' is about the best you can say of it.

So, on Linux, what does UNetbootin have to offer which would compel a
user to use it in preference to Debian's present advice? As far as I can
see there is nothing compelling or of any significance.

Last time I tested UNetbootin it did not even present a Debian splash
screen and not all its menu items worked. Perhaps this has changed but,
unless I have to, I cannot be bothered to look at at how it behaves on
unstable.

> I've been using it for long years with different flash drives, machines
> (not many processor architectures though) and distributions and it never
> even gave an error message. Configuration couldn't be easier on gnu
> newbie.

Ok. Isohybrids don't integrate with all architectures but many
distribututions do use them for i386 and amd64. Even if they do not,
does it matter? We are only concerned with Debian here.

Windows and Mac? Yes, they too can write an isohybrid to a USB device
with the same outcome as dd, cat and cp.

Well, what is it about UNetbootin which makes it so desirable for
putting a Debian ISO on a USB device?

> Unless you want to get a better comprehension on the subject. Then I
> would recommend debugging what you did. What did you do?

He has been asked that already. I wouldn't hold my breath waiting for a
response. What we know is 'I have made a bootable USB stick . . ' That's
it.


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Re: Sound But No CD Sound

[Alan Ianson]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:15:35 -0400
"Thomas H. George"  wrote:

> My system is Wheezy.
> ogg123 plays ogg files perfectly with sound.
> workbone plays the cd but there is no sound.
> cdir lists the tracks on the cd.

I'm not familiar with workbone but try loading snd_pcm_oss and
snd_mixer_oss with modprobe as root (or use sudo).

Eg. "modprobe snd_pcm_oss snd_mixer_oss"

I use these modules for mp3blaster.


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Need help with netinst of wheezy on pentium 4 machine

[paul e condon]

I purchased some time ago a refurb Dell GX620. I have received 
conflicting advice on this list about whether I should use amd64 or i386 
CDs to install Wheezy, but amd64 CDs seem to get further into the 
install so what I want help with now is all about amd64 type CDs.


I set out to install using LVM and selected a single large logical 
partition. The disk has a capacity of 160GB. The install failed because, 
the error message said the requested architecture was not available on 
the mirror that I had chosen. But it did not say what architecture it 
thought I had chosen. And the 'mirror' that I was invoking is my local 
installation of approx on a wheezy on a different local computer. I look 
into /var/cache on that computer and both amd64 and i386 are present in 
the approx cache. This morning I resume work and the first thing I want 
to do is try again, because I do make mistakes. But this morning I 
cannot repartition the disk using the partitioning system on the CD that 
was burnt from a jigdo iso image on May 31. It would not 
delete/remove/whatever the LVM and would not recognize it as a usable 
/root. So, I plugged in a external USB hard drive and tried to install 
on it. It refused to write on either drive until I did something with 
the left over logical volume, mentioning it by name. As I write this 
email I am doing a partition erase on the logical volume. I tried 
selecting 'do not use this device' , which to me should have been 
sufficient, but it wasn't. Erase is going slowly. At the rate the 
patience bar is growing, it should be finished in another 12 hrs or so.


Is there a better way? What should I try if it still claims my 
architecture is not available on my mirror? etc.

Ideas?

Paul


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Re: Old Debian menu

[André Nunes Batista]

Hi,

What do you mean by "old debian menu"? Debian's menu or gnome 2 menu?

As far as I can tell, debian menu is pretty much the same since etch. If
gnome 2 menu is what you strive for, mate or cinnamon would probably
give you less headache than using gnome 3 in classic mode.
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Sorry, I am using gnome-classic.


On Sun, Jun 2, 2013 at 4:42 AM, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

> On Du, 02 iun 13, 04:24:25, To Ro wrote:
> > is there any way of restoring old debian menu in wheezy? The new menu is
> > very deficient to say the least.
>
> You could at least mention the desktop environment you are using.
>
> Kind regards,
> Andrei
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Re: Debian 7 USB Drive Won't Work

[André Nunes Batista]

+1 to unetbootin!

I've been using it for long years with different flash drives, machines
(not many processor architectures though) and distributions and it never
even gave an error message. Configuration couldn't be easier on gnu
newbie.

Unless you want to get a better comprehension on the subject. Then I
would recommend debugging what you did. What did you do?
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On Sun, 02 Jun 2013, JC wrote:

> I am hesitant to post to this list because perusing some of the
> entries show that the answers are technical way over my head, but
> here we go.
> 
> I have made a bootable USB stick(32G) with Debian 7 i386 using my
> Ubuntu 10.04 system on my laptop which has an Intel chip.   It
> appeared to work OK.
> 
> However, when I try to boot from it, I get some errors.
> 
> First error is "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt".  That file is in the
> isolinux folder on the USB drive.
> 
> Then comes the copyright notice followed by the patent notice.
> 
> Next it discovers the ethernet controller.
>  After that it thinks for a while and says "no boot filename
> received" then
> 
> PXE-M0F: Exiting PXE ROM
> 
> And waits for me to CTRL-ALT-DEL.
> 
> I have created 6 different USB drives from 6 different versions of
> linux and this is the firsst one that didn't work.

I use the UNetbootin utility.  Runs on any host--Windows, OSX or
Linux--and creates a bootable USB stick of any Linux distro.  It has
NEVER failed me.  Plus, it doesn't format the USB stick.  It stays
FAT32.  So, if you want you can store other files on the unused space.
Pretty slick.

B


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Re: Packageinstallation isolation.

[green]

"M.Atıf CEYLAN" wrote at 2013-06-04 09:16 -0500:
> On 06/04/2013 05:12 PM, Sthu Deus wrote:
> >Is there a way/trick how i can install a 3rd party package in some kind
> >of isolation from whole system -- so that its binaries can not access
> >any files of whole OS -- being confined in usage only to one (list of)
> >user(s)?
>
> you need to the chroot.

And there are some packages for helping with creation/maintenance of a
chroot, eg. jailer and makejail.


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Re: a browser for debian that will play pandora.com?

[André Nunes Batista]

I was hoping to enjoy some new music when I read the first couple of
mails. However all I got from pandora was:

"Dear Sir Mister Most Important Person

U From Brazil? No-no!"
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Doug  writes:

> On 5/31/2013 7:40 PM, Carl Fink wrote:
> /snip/
>> Epiphany-browser works fine. 
> Have you ever listened to Pandora? The folks that run it don't seem to
> know anything about music genres.
> I did listen to it on the computer--I think it was from PCLOS, but not
> sure. Anyway, I wouldn't go out of my way
> to get Pandora. AAMOF, I considered buying a specific car, until I
> found out it had Pandora instead of Sirius/XM.
> Maybe you can get Sirius/XM--they seem to know what they're doing. (I
> listen to Sirius/XM in the car all the time.)
> I don't know if you can get it on the computer. but I'm sure you'd
> have to subscribe.

I don't put a lot of faith in genrres... Pandora is *really* good
at predicting songs I've never heard of from bands I've never heard of
based on other music I like.

I've currently got 16 different channels defined based on
relatively-similar songs and bands I like, which I've got on random
shuffle.

So I'll get some Grateful Dead, then some Bach, then some Dresden Dolls,
then something from a Broadway musical...  and all good.


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Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED - not completely!)

[Pierre Frenkiel]

hi Dan,
On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Dan Ritter wrote:

BIOS settings are all too often corrupted. I have two Intel
motherboards that need BIOS re-checked any time they have an
unexpected power outage.


  that can't be my case, as I have an UPS, and no power failure long
  enough to exhaust the UPS battery.(actually no power failure at all,
  up to now)


If you notice such a thing again, you may want to install the
bootloader on all plausible disks.


  interesting suggestion, but now that I know what to do, the fix is easy
  to do going into BIOS, and takes a few seconds...

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Re: Remplacement for zsafe on wheezy

[Slavko]

Dňa 04.06.2013 17:34 Kushal Kumaran  wrote / napísal(a):
> Try keepassx: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/keepassx
> 
I can recommend it too - there are compatible programs for use the same
database on the windows and android too - very useful! ;-)

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Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[Goh Lip]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 16:56:15 +0800, Anthony Campbell   
wrote:



If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.

Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; particulaly losing apt
would be a disaster. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

AC


 I think these are 'meta-packages' and can be safely removed.
http://wiki.debian.org/tasksel

"Note that in DebianWheezy and beyond tasksel provides and uses dummy  
packages (known as meta packages) to pull required dependencies."


but as there are 80 packages (seems heck a lot), be careful to verify  
first. So leave them alone till you're sure.


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Re: Remplacement for zsafe on wheezy

[Kushal Kumaran]

Mérof 42  writes:

> Hi all,
>
> I used zsafe for storing all my password since a lot of time, it is really
> useful for my usage.
> It is no present on wheezy, because it is not more maintened I think
> All my password are generated by pwgen and changed sometime, so I can't
> remember all
> Her is the package for squeeze :
> http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/zsafe
>
> I need to:
>
> Store different kind of login/password (imap, ssh, jabber, mysql,
> webservices, etc...)
> Store some field, for example with mysql, I need username, password,
> databasename, servername and a comment
> Store all these data on a safe place.
> If is possible, have different category (I dont need to show all my
> password if I need only a mysql for reinstalling a php script).
>
> zsafe do all of that, somebody know something who work like it?
>

Try keepassx: http://packages.debian.org/wheezy/keepassx

On that package page, there is also a list of "Similar packages".  You
might want to take a look through them as well.

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Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED - not completely!)

[Goh Lip]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 22:39:05 +0800, Pierre Frenkiel  
 wrote:



On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Goh Lip wrote:


Okay, understood what you mean.

Your bios did not detect both drives and the first drive it detected  
was put into the boot sequence.


   sorry, but I think that you didn't understand: my BIOS perfectly  
detects all

   existing drives,  as
   1/ they are all listed in the BIOS "general" and "hard disc" menus
   2/ I was able to put the good one in the boot sequence.
   3/ I imagine that if a disc is not detected by the BIOS, it's  
difficult

  to use it in the OS, after the boot.

You also said that the "disc numbering is not consistent with each  
reboot"
This is not true for internal discs.So, the use of UUID in fstab is  
mandatory for external drives, but not for internal.


best regards,


Just one reference...

https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UsingUUID

First paragraph reads..
" Linux now prefers to use UUID (Universally Unique Identifier), LABEL, or  
symlinks to identify media storage devices on a system. Directly using  
/dev/hd*# or /dev/sd*# is no longer preferred since these device  
assignments can change between system boots:"


I had experienced in the past my grub-legacy keeps pointing to the wrong  
drive. Found out it was the bios. So, in your case, what detects as sda  
would be first in the sequence. One more link to illustrate.

https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=89282

But glad to know your bios detects all drives. Your message just put one  
drive besides the rom. Phew. That would be really bad.


Oh, a link on ide and sata. Don't know if you have the mix.
http://www.mepis.org/docs/en/index.php?title=Grub_with_IDE_and_SATA_Drives

Cheers. Hope the above helps.


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Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[John Hasler]

Anthony Campbell writes:
> If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
> were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
> includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.

> Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these...

So don't.  It's merely informing you that those packages were
automatically installed as dependencies and that no packages depending
on them remain.  If you don't want to see the message mark the packages
as manually-installed.

Because any developer can upload anything to Sid at any time without
regard to dependencies it is not unusual to get funny-looking results
when trying to install from it.  If you want to run Sid you need to
understand a bit about the package-management system.  Read the man
pages for apt, dpkg, & friends.  You also sometimes need to wait a bit
before installing a new package.
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Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[Vincent Lefevre]

On 2013-06-04 09:56:15 +0100, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
  ^^^
> were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
> includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.

How? aptitude often wants to remove many packages (e.g. several
hundreds) when there is some broken dependency, while apt-get
has a better resolution system (e.g. only one obsolete package
removed).

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Re: Can't (re)install libapache2-mod-php5 on SID

[Csanyi Pal]

Joe  writes:

> On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 20:36:18 +0200
> Csanyi Pal  wrote:

>> on my Debian GNU/Linux unstable (sid) system I can't (re)install
>> libapache2-mod-php5 debian package. 
>> 
>> It remain half configured after an upgrade process.
>> 
>> In Aptitude interface when I try to reinstall it, I get error
>> message: E: Internal Error, No file name for
>> libapache2-mod-php5:amd64 
>> 
>> What can I do to solve this problem?

> Difficult to say. The current version is 5.5.0~rc2+dfsg-2 and my
> previous version upgraded today OK, also sid on amd64. There are new
> versions of both apache2 and php5.
>
> What you have sounds like a confused aptitude rather than an apache2
> issue. You might first try an update, then a reboot and update, and
> if this hasn't cleared the problem, try one of the other tools, either
> Synaptic or apt-get dist-upgrade. Synaptic does a dist-upgrade by
> default.

Well, I don't remember what I did, probably try in aptitude interface to
remove packages, and it's dependencies, but now I have only one package
that I can't remove: ldap-account-manager.

When I try to purge it in Synaptic, I get the following message:

E: ldap-account-manager: subprocess installed post-removal script
returned error exit status 1

Removing ldap-account-manager ...
[ ok ] Reloading web server: apache2.
invoke-rc.d: initscript apache2, action "reload" failed.
dpkg: error processing ldap-account-manager (--remove):
 subprocess installed post-removal script returned error exit status 1
Errors were encountered while processing:
 ldap-account-manager
W: Waited for dpkg --assert-multi-arch but it wasn't there - dpkgGo (10:
No child processes)
E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
A package failed to install.  Trying to recover:

So on my Desktop system, I can't run apache2, and can't remove
ldap-account-manager. 

What I want it the following: to get again a running apache2, php5, and
ldap-account-manager. 

The ldap-account-manager is now Half installed, and can't to do with it
anything.

Advices?

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Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED - not completely!)

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Goh Lip wrote:


Okay, understood what you mean.

Your bios did not detect both drives and the first drive it detected was put 
into the boot sequence.


  sorry, but I think that you didn't understand: my BIOS perfectly detects all
  existing drives,  as
  1/ they are all listed in the BIOS "general" and "hard disc" menus
  2/ I was able to put the good one in the boot sequence.
  3/ I imagine that if a disc is not detected by the BIOS, it's difficult
 to use it in the OS, after the boot.

You also said that the "disc numbering is not consistent with each reboot"
This is not true for internal discs.So, the use of UUID in fstab is mandatory 
for external drives, but not for internal.


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Packageinstallation isolation.

[Sthu Deus]

Good time of the day.


Is there a way/trick how i can install a 3rd party package in some kind
of isolation from whole system -- so that its binaries can not access
any files of whole OS -- being confined in usage only to one (list of)
user(s)?

Because there is plenty of software even packaged for Debian, but it
risky to use as is. On other hand compiling is not the easiest solution.

Thanks for your time.


Sthu.


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Re: Packageinstallation isolation.

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 05:12 PM, Sthu Deus wrote:

Good time of the day.


Is there a way/trick how i can install a 3rd party package in some kind
of isolation from whole system -- so that its binaries can not access
any files of whole OS -- being confined in usage only to one (list of)
user(s)?

Because there is plenty of software even packaged for Debian, but it
risky to use as is. On other hand compiling is not the easiest solution.

Thanks for your time.


Sthu.



you need to the chroot.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroot
http://wiki.debian.org/chroot

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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 18:06, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> I have changed the prefix param to "prefix = " and thunderbird showed
> the sub folders without indent. When I sent an email to itself
> couldn't see any message into the root folders. But sent emails shown
> into the child sub folders. I think the problem reason is email client.
So work all mail clients that I tried! With other servers work fine. I
checked a few other servers.
I think, this problem in namespaces.
You can try without thunderbird using telnet or openssl. My result:

04 LIST "" "*"
* LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX.Trash"

But must be:

04 LIST "" "*"

* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Trash"


The root folder INBOX - is result of having namespace 'INBOX' in dovecot
2 settings.




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[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 04:41 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
I plan to use e-mail client, not a web-interface. At the same local 
folder structure similar.

But:
. list "" "*"
* LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX"
. OK List completed.

No trash, no drafts, no other folder. All this folder included in 
INBOX 

Answer must be (for example):
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Drafts"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Trash"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Sent"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "spam"

Yes, I have tried these settings and roundcube including but here is a 
little different email clients.

Here is my problem
http://superuser.com/questions/496222/how-do-i-make-all-my-imap-folders-siblings-instead-of-children-of-inbox
But I want to solve it on a server
I have changed the prefix param to "prefix = " and thunderbird showed 
the sub folders without indent. When I sent an email to itself couldn't 
see any message into the root folders. But sent emails shown into the 
child sub folders. I think the problem reason is email client.

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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 17:37, Alex Dubinin пишет:
> 04.06.2013 17:31, Alex Dubinin пишет:
>> 04.06.2013 17:14, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>>> On 06/04/2013 03:42 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
 04.06.2013 16:38, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> 04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>>> On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
 04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> Log result:
>> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
>> Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes 
>> requires
>> prefix=. not to start with separator
>> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user 
>> settings.
>> Refer to server log for more information.
>>
> Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?
>
 Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
 'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.

>>> look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
>>> and "Namespace Settings" section
>>> it says :
>>>  
>>>
>>>   * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the
>>> NAMESPACE reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
>>>  *
>>>
>>> location: Mailbox location
>>> . The default is to
>>> use mail_location setting.
>>>
>>>   * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX.
>>> There is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have
>>> inbox=yes.
>>>   * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in
>>> NAMESPACE reply.
>>>
>>> .
>>> -- 
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>>> Yurdum Yazılım
>> Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not
>> got me no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
>> Have any ideas? 
> I didn't apply these parameters. I'll try each option on my test
> server for you and write you the correct solution/suggestion.
>
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> Yurdum Yazılım
 Thank you.
>>> Hi,
>>> I tried the options on my test server. My current conf. is below
>>>
>>> namespace {
>>>   inbox = yes
>>>   prefix = INBOX.
>>>   separator = .
>>>   subscriptions = yes
>>>   list = yes
>>>   type = private
>>> }
>>>
>>> plugin {
>>>   autocreate = INBOX.Sent
>>>   autocreate2 = INBOX.Drafts
>>>   autocreate3 = INBOX.Junk
>>>   autocreate4 = INBOX.Trash
>>>   autosubscribe = INBOX.Sent
>>>   autosubscribe2 = INBOX.Drafts
>>>   autosubscribe3 = INBOX.Junk
>>>   autosubscribe4 = INBOX.Trash
>>>   quota = dict:User quota::proxy::quota
>>> }
>>>
>>> and  my mail user's folder item list shown :
>>>
>>> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 cur
>>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail 17408 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot.index.cache
>>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail  1040 Jun  4 16:07 dovecot.index.log
>>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail96 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot.mailbox.log
>>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail   100 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidlist
>>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail 8 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot-uidvalidity
>>> -r--r--r-- 1 vmail vmail 0 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidvalidity.51ade651
>>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Drafts
>>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Junk
>>> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 new
>>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 .Sent
>>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail23 Jun  4 16:08 subscriptions
>>> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 tmp
>>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Trash
>>>
>>> I'm using roundcube webmail as mail client and I have tried on it.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> M.Atıf CEYLAN
>>> Yurdum Yazılım
>> Yes, I have tried these settings and roundcube including but here is
>> a little different email clients.
>> I plan to use e-mail client, not a web-interface. At the same local
>> folder structure similar.
>> But:
>> . list "" "*"
>> * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX"
>> . OK List completed.
>>
>> No trash, no drafts, no other folder. All this folder included in
>> INBOX 
> Answer must be (for example):
> * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Drafts"
> * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX"
> * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Trash"
> * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Sent"
> * LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "spam"
>
Here is my problem
http://superuser.com/questions/496222/how-do-i-make-all-my-imap-folders-siblings-instead-of-children-of-inbox
But I want to solve it on a server


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 17:31, Alex Dubinin пишет:
> 04.06.2013 17:14, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>> On 06/04/2013 03:42 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>>> 04.06.2013 16:38, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
 On 06/04/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
> 04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>> On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>>> 04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
 On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
> Log result:
> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
> Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes 
> requires
> prefix=. not to start with separator
> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
> Refer to server log for more information.
>
 Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?

>>> Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
>>> 'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.
>>>
>> look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
>> and "Namespace Settings" section
>> it says :
>>  
>>
>>   * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the
>> NAMESPACE reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
>>  *
>>
>> location: Mailbox location
>> . The default is to
>> use mail_location setting.
>>
>>   * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX.
>> There is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have
>> inbox=yes.
>>   * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in
>> NAMESPACE reply.
>>
>> .
>> -- 
>> M.Atıf CEYLAN
>> Yurdum Yazılım
> Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not
> got me no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
> Have any ideas? 
 I didn't apply these parameters. I'll try each option on my test
 server for you and write you the correct solution/suggestion.

 -- 
 M.Atıf CEYLAN
 Yurdum Yazılım
>>> Thank you.
>> Hi,
>> I tried the options on my test server. My current conf. is below
>>
>> namespace {
>>   inbox = yes
>>   prefix = INBOX.
>>   separator = .
>>   subscriptions = yes
>>   list = yes
>>   type = private
>> }
>>
>> plugin {
>>   autocreate = INBOX.Sent
>>   autocreate2 = INBOX.Drafts
>>   autocreate3 = INBOX.Junk
>>   autocreate4 = INBOX.Trash
>>   autosubscribe = INBOX.Sent
>>   autosubscribe2 = INBOX.Drafts
>>   autosubscribe3 = INBOX.Junk
>>   autosubscribe4 = INBOX.Trash
>>   quota = dict:User quota::proxy::quota
>> }
>>
>> and  my mail user's folder item list shown :
>>
>> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 cur
>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail 17408 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot.index.cache
>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail  1040 Jun  4 16:07 dovecot.index.log
>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail96 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot.mailbox.log
>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail   100 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidlist
>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail 8 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot-uidvalidity
>> -r--r--r-- 1 vmail vmail 0 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidvalidity.51ade651
>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Drafts
>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Junk
>> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 new
>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 .Sent
>> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail23 Jun  4 16:08 subscriptions
>> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 tmp
>> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Trash
>>
>> I'm using roundcube webmail as mail client and I have tried on it.
>>
>> -- 
>> M.Atıf CEYLAN
>> Yurdum Yazılım
> Yes, I have tried these settings and roundcube including but here is a
> little different email clients.
> I plan to use e-mail client, not a web-interface. At the same local
> folder structure similar.
> But:
> . list "" "*"
> * LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX"
> . OK List completed.
>
> No trash, no drafts, no other folder. All this folder included in
> INBOX 
Answer must be (for example):
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Drafts"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "INBOX"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Trash"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "Sent"
* LIST (\HasNoChildren) "." "spam"




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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 17:27, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> Perhaps you won't see correctly in already created user folder and you
> should new user create or remove all sub folders of your test user
> folder. 
Yes, before every test i remove all subfolders of my test user.



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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 17:14, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 03:42 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> 04.06.2013 16:38, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>>> On 06/04/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
 04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> 04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>>> On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
 Log result:
 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
 Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
 prefix=. not to start with separator
 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
 Refer to server log for more information.

>>> Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?
>>>
>> Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
>> 'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.
>>
> look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
> and "Namespace Settings" section
> it says :
>  
>
>   * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the NAMESPACE
> reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
>  *
>
> location: Mailbox location
> . The default is to
> use mail_location setting.
>
>   * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX.
> There is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have inbox=yes.
>   * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in
> NAMESPACE reply.
>
> .
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> Yurdum Yazılım
 Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not
 got me no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
 Have any ideas? 
>>> I didn't apply these parameters. I'll try each option on my test
>>> server for you and write you the correct solution/suggestion.
>>>
>>> -- 
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>>> Yurdum Yazılım
>> Thank you.
> Hi,
> I tried the options on my test server. My current conf. is below
>
> namespace {
>   inbox = yes
>   prefix = INBOX.
>   separator = .
>   subscriptions = yes
>   list = yes
>   type = private
> }
>
> plugin {
>   autocreate = INBOX.Sent
>   autocreate2 = INBOX.Drafts
>   autocreate3 = INBOX.Junk
>   autocreate4 = INBOX.Trash
>   autosubscribe = INBOX.Sent
>   autosubscribe2 = INBOX.Drafts
>   autosubscribe3 = INBOX.Junk
>   autosubscribe4 = INBOX.Trash
>   quota = dict:User quota::proxy::quota
> }
>
> and  my mail user's folder item list shown :
>
> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 cur
> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail 17408 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot.index.cache
> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail  1040 Jun  4 16:07 dovecot.index.log
> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail96 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot.mailbox.log
> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail   100 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidlist
> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail 8 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot-uidvalidity
> -r--r--r-- 1 vmail vmail 0 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidvalidity.51ade651
> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Drafts
> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Junk
> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 new
> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 .Sent
> -rw--- 1 vmail vmail23 Jun  4 16:08 subscriptions
> drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 tmp
> drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Trash
>
> I'm using roundcube webmail as mail client and I have tried on it.
>
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Yes, I have tried these settings and roundcube including but here is a
little different email clients.
I plan to use e-mail client, not a web-interface. At the same local
folder structure similar.
But:
. list "" "*"
* LIST (\HasChildren) "." "INBOX"
. OK List completed.

No trash, no drafts, no other folder. All this folder included in INBOX 


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 04:14 PM, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" wrote:

I'm using roundcube webmail as mail client and I have tried on it.
Perhaps you won't see correctly in already created user folder and you 
should new user create or remove all sub folders of your test user folder.


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 03:42 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

04.06.2013 16:38, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:

On 06/04/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:

On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:

On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

Log result:
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
prefix=. not to start with separator
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
Refer to server log for more information.


Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?


Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.


look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
and "Namespace Settings" section
it says :
 

  * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the NAMESPACE
reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
 *

location:Mailbox location
. The default is to
usemail_locationsetting.

  * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX.
There is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have inbox=yes.
  * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in
NAMESPACE reply.

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Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not got 
me no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
Have any ideas? 
I didn't apply these parameters. I'll try each option on my test 
server for you and write you the correct solution/suggestion.


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Thank you.

Hi,
I tried the options on my test server. My current conf. is below

namespace {
  inbox = yes
  prefix = INBOX.
  separator = .
  subscriptions = yes
  list = yes
  type = private
}

plugin {
  autocreate = INBOX.Sent
  autocreate2 = INBOX.Drafts
  autocreate3 = INBOX.Junk
  autocreate4 = INBOX.Trash
  autosubscribe = INBOX.Sent
  autosubscribe2 = INBOX.Drafts
  autosubscribe3 = INBOX.Junk
  autosubscribe4 = INBOX.Trash
  quota = dict:User quota::proxy::quota
}

and  my mail user's folder item list shown :

drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 cur
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 17408 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot.index.cache
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail  1040 Jun  4 16:07 dovecot.index.log
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail96 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot.mailbox.log
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail   100 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidlist
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail 8 Jun  4 16:08 dovecot-uidvalidity
-r--r--r-- 1 vmail vmail 0 Jun  4 16:06 dovecot-uidvalidity.51ade651
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Drafts
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Junk
drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 new
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:07 .Sent
-rw--- 1 vmail vmail23 Jun  4 16:08 subscriptions
drwx-- 2 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:06 tmp
drwx-- 5 vmail vmail  4096 Jun  4 16:08 .Trash

I'm using roundcube webmail as mail client and I have tried on it.

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My system is Wheezy.
ogg123 plays ogg files perfectly with sound.
workbone plays the cd but there is no sound.
cdir lists the tracks on the cd.


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 16:38, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> 04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>>> On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
 04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> Log result:
>> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
>> Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
>> prefix=. not to start with separator
>> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
>> Refer to server log for more information.
>>
> Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?
>
 Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
 'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.

>>> look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
>>> and "Namespace Settings" section
>>> it says :
>>>  
>>>
>>>   * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the NAMESPACE
>>> reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
>>>  *
>>>
>>> location: Mailbox location
>>> . The default is to
>>> use mail_location setting.
>>>
>>>   * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX. There
>>> is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have inbox=yes.
>>>   * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in
>>> NAMESPACE reply.
>>>
>>> .
>>> -- 
>>> M.Atıf CEYLAN
>>> Yurdum Yazılım
>> Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not got
>> me no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
>> Have any ideas? 
> I didn't apply these parameters. I'll try each option on my test
> server for you and write you the correct solution/suggestion.
>
> -- 
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> Yurdum Yazılım
Thank you.


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 03:26 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:

On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:

On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

Log result:
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
prefix=. not to start with separator
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
Refer to server log for more information.


Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?


Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.


look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
and "Namespace Settings" section
it says :
 

  * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the NAMESPACE
reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
 *

location:Mailbox location
. The default is to
usemail_locationsetting.

  * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX. There
is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have inbox=yes.
  * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in NAMESPACE
reply.

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Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not got 
me no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
Have any ideas? 
I didn't apply these parameters. I'll try each option on my test server 
for you and write you the correct solution/suggestion.


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 16:15, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> 04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
>>> On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
 Log result:
 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
 Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
 prefix=. not to start with separator
 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
 Refer to server log for more information.

>>> Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?
>>>
>> Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
>> 'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.
>>
> look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
> and "Namespace Settings" section
> it says :
>  
>
>   * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the NAMESPACE
> reply (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
>  *
>
> location: Mailbox location
> . The default is to
> use mail_location setting.
>
>   * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX. There
> is only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have inbox=yes.
>   * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in NAMESPACE
> reply.
>
> .
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> Yurdum Yazılım
Thank you for your answer. I have read this guide, but it is not got me
no matter what ideas and ways of solving this problem.
Have any ideas?


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 03:11 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:

On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

Log result:
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
prefix=. not to start with separator
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
Refer to server log for more information.


Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?


Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.


look at this url http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Namespaces
and "Namespace Settings" section
it says :
 

 * prefix: The namespace prefix how it's visible in the NAMESPACE reply
   (if hidden=no) and mailbox list (if list=yes).
 *

   location:Mailbox location .
   The default is to usemail_locationsetting.

 * inbox: "yes", if this namespace contains the user's INBOX. There is
   only one INBOX, so only one namespace can have inbox=yes.
 * hidden: "yes", if this namespace shouldn't be listed in NAMESPACE reply.

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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 16:04, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> Log result:
>> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
>> Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
>> prefix=. not to start with separator
>> 2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
>> Refer to server log for more information.
>>
> Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?
>
Work.but again i have root folder 'inbox' and children folder: 'sent',
'drafts', 'queue', 'trash', not root folder without children.



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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 02:59 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

Log result:
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
prefix=. not to start with separator
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
Refer to server log for more information.


Can you try again as "prefix =  "  (empty)?

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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 15:51, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 02:46 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> prefix = INBOX.
> You should change this parameter to "prefix = ."
>
Log result:
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: user EMAIL_ADDRESS:
Initialization failed: namespace configuration error: list=yes requires
prefix=. not to start with separator
2013-06-04 15:57:35 imap(EMAIL_ADDRESS): Error: Invalid user settings.
Refer to server log for more information.




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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 12:13 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

This is my first experience of the mail server.
Set up a mail server from Postfix + Dovecot with the MySQL authorization.
When you create a new user dovecot makes strange folder structure: the
'inbox' contains 'juncus', 'tash', 'sent' etc.
ie 'sent' and other folders are subdir to the 'inbox'.
How to make the imap folders 'sent', 'trash' and others were not affiliated?

P.S. Sorry for my english.


Hi,
try below parameters in your dovecot conf file (if you use dovecot 2.x)

namespace {
  inbox = yes
  prefix = .
  separator = .
  subscriptions = yes
  list = yes
  type = private
}


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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[M.Atıf CEYLAN]

On 06/04/2013 02:46 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:

prefix = INBOX.

You should change this parameter to "prefix = ."

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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 15:33, Jochen Spieker пишет:
> Are you sure that Dovecot creates these folders? Many mail user agents
> do that automatically.
>
> (BTW: Using Tor to post through Gmail looks … weird.)
I tried using: claws-mail, thunderburd, evolution, the bat.

P.S. I'm using proxy for internet access.



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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

04.06.2013 15:28, "M.Atıf CEYLAN" пишет:
> On 06/04/2013 12:13 PM, Alex Dubinin wrote:
>> This is my first experience of the mail server.
>> Set up a mail server from Postfix + Dovecot with the MySQL
>> authorization.
>> When you create a new user dovecot makes strange folder structure: the
>> 'inbox' contains 'juncus', 'tash', 'sent' etc.
>> ie 'sent' and other folders are subdir to the 'inbox'.
>> How to make the imap folders 'sent', 'trash' and others were not
>> affiliated?
>>
>> P.S. Sorry for my english.
>>
> Hi,
> try below parameters in your dovecot conf file (if you use dovecot 2.x)
>
> namespace {
>   inbox = yes
>   prefix = .
>   separator = .
>   subscriptions = yes
>   list = yes
>   type = private
> }
Thank you for your answer. This is my config:
#  cat 10-mail.conf | sed -e "s/^\s*//g" | grep -v ^\# | grep -v ^$
mail_location = maildir:/var/vmail/%d/%n/Maildir
namespace inbox {
type = private
separator = .
prefix = INBOX.
location =
inbox = yes
hidden = no
list = yes
}
mail_plugins = $mail_plugins quota


# cat 15-mailboxes.conf | sed -e "s/^\s*//g" | grep -v ^\# | grep -v ^$
namespace inbox {
mailbox Drafts {
special_use = \Drafts
}
mailbox Junk {
special_use = \Junk
}
mailbox Trash {
special_use = \Trash
}
mailbox Sent {
special_use = \Sent
}
}

This is default config of dovecot 2.




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Re: Diagnosing kernel panic involving fglrx

[Ari Epstein]

One change I made shortly before the problems started that might be
relevant: I enabled i386 architecture support (it's amd64 laptop).


On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:36 AM, Ari Epstein  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Got a new laptop and installed wheezy a few weeks ago.  I noticed the HDMI
> audio was not working, and figured it was a limitation in the fglrx driver
> and it seemed otherwise to run well.  Starting yesterday, however, I have
> frequent but not consistent kernel panics during the boot process that seem
> to involve support for that feature.  Sometimes it boots without any audio
> (there is another integrated audio device), sometimes with, sometimes it
> does not boot at all. Never had to debug something like this before so some
> pointers about how to go about it are appreciated! dmesg logs attached for
> occassions that it booted with audio and without audio.
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Re: Dovecot IMAP

[Jochen Spieker]

Alex Dubinin:
> This is my first experience of the mail server.
> Set up a mail server from Postfix + Dovecot with the MySQL authorization.
> When you create a new user dovecot makes strange folder structure: the
> 'inbox' contains 'juncus', 'tash', 'sent' etc.
> ie 'sent' and other folders are subdir to the 'inbox'.

Are you sure that Dovecot creates these folders? Many mail user agents
do that automatically.

(BTW: Using Tor to post through Gmail looks … weird.)

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Re: RAID1 all bootable

[Francesco Pietra]

Hello:
I started this thread not because grub on both disks should be by default
but because I found difficulties in recovering. If I performed badly, and
there is no problem in installing grub on the working disk, then I see no
problem. There are many raids, not limited to raid1. Perhaps it is because
of this that there is no default for raid1.

fp

On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 5:16 AM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Alexandru Cardaniuc wrote:
> > I just did 2 reinstalls in the last two weeks (upgrade from sqeeze to
> > wheezy screwed up my grub config and then my 6 year old drives started
> > failing - so much fun :), but basically during both reinstalls and
> > creating MD devices with debian installer (md0/md1/md2) using two drives
> > sda/sdb, by default the installer just installed grub on MBR of the
> > first device sda. I didn't see an option to install it everywhere. So,
> > after reboot I did a manual
> > # grub-install /dev/sda
> > # grub-install /dev/sdb
> >
> > Now when I choose to boot from either first disk or second disk, it
> > works fine.
> >
> > Did I miss something during the debian installation? Why wasn't grub
> > automatically installed on both disks?
>
> Seems like it should have been.  I would file a bug against the
> debian-installer or installation-reports.
>
> Bob
>

Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED)

[Goh Lip]

On Tue, 04 Jun 2013 17:09:15 +0800, Pierre Frenkiel  
 wrote:



On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Goh Lip wrote:



The allocation of disk numbering (sda, sdb...or (hd0, hd1...) is done  
by bios and the OS will use whatever the bios determine.

Also this numbering is not consistent with each reboot.

We should always set "master" and "slave" for jumper wires or use  
correct primary or secondary cabling (but if you have 1 master and 2  
slaves, the slaves will continue to be changeable).


And...use grub2. Grub-legacy 'calls out' partition using (hdx,y) or  
sdxy whereas grub2 'searches' using UUID.


fstab had changed to UUID from sdxy years ago to overcome problems like  
this.


   hi Goh,
   I don't understand the relation between my question and your answer:
   the problem was with the BIOS boot sequence, and as far as I know,
   this is totally independant of any OS.
   the boot sequnce, which was since the installation, several years ago:

 1 dvd drive
 2 ST3250410AS

 and I found it has been replaced with:
 1 dvd drive
 2 ST3750640AS

  and the problem disappeared, without any change in grub,
  as soon as I reverted to the original BIOS  boot sequence

  So, my question is still: how can a boot sequence change, without  
entering

  into BIOS at boot.

best regards,


Okay, understood what you mean.

Your bios did not detect both drives and the first drive it detected was  
put into the boot sequence.
Still, if having both drives set as "master" may confuse the bios, so it  
is better to check if the drives are differentiated by "master" and  
"slave" through jumper wires (ide) or primary/secondary cabling (sata).  
Mixing ide and sata drives can also confuse the bios.


Also, it is always better that booting is determined by UUID rather than  
/dev/sdxy or (hdx,y). And grub2 in this respect is better than grub-legacy.


Hope this explains.
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Re: No udev event when i plug an HDMI cable

[David Goodenough]

On Tuesday 04 Jun 2013, Sylvain Archenault wrote:
> Anybody having the same issue?
> 
> On 05/18/2013 12:52 PM, Sylvain Archenault wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > When I plugged a HDMI cable in my laptop, the display used to
> > automatically detect my TV and expand to it.
> > 
> > It stopped working a few days ago, I'm not sure what package upgrade
> > triggered this.
> > 
> > When I run "udevadm monitor", there is no event generated. It used to
> > work. If I go in "Settings -> Monitor" the tv is detected.
> > 
> > I'm running Sid, which is up to date. I don't see any output in the log.
> > I'm not sure where to look at. I tried with this 2 kernels:
> > 
> > linux-image-3.6-trunk-amd64 - Linux 3.6 for 64-bit PCs
> > linux-image-3.8-1-amd64 - Linux 3.8 for 64-bit PCs
> > 
> > Let me know if you need more details.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Sylvain
I have no idea if it is related, but there are currently a lot of problems
with HDMI being found with the 3.8 kernel on the BeagleBone Black.  For some
reason users are having difficulty with the EDID processing.  Now you are
reporting that this happens with 3.6, so it may be different, but it might
be.

Part of the problem on the BeagleBone is related to the move to DTS (the
device tree support) which does not apply to amd64, but part of it is
related to a change that has happened at much the same time moving from 
the old FrameBuffer to the new kernel display framework - again I do not
know if this is relevant to you with your display card.  In short lots
changed between 3.2 and 3.8 which seems to be causing the BeagleBone
problems.

David


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Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Ma, 04 iun 13, 09:56:15, Anthony Campbell wrote:
> If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
> were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
> includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.
> 
> Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; particulaly losing apt
> would be a disaster. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

Not me. It might be that my mirror is just a bit behind or that it 
depends on the set of packages installed.

I don't want to be a smart-ass, but:

1. when using unstable this is not unusual and the solution is not 
always to not upgrade

2. if you want help with diagnosing please post the output of 

  


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Dovecot IMAP

[Alex Dubinin]

This is my first experience of the mail server.
Set up a mail server from Postfix + Dovecot with the MySQL authorization.
When you create a new user dovecot makes strange folder structure: the
'inbox' contains 'juncus', 'tash', 'sent' etc.
ie 'sent' and other folders are subdir to the 'inbox'.
How to make the imap folders 'sent', 'trash' and others were not affiliated?

P.S. Sorry for my english.



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Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED)

[Pierre Frenkiel]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013, Goh Lip wrote:



The allocation of disk numbering (sda, sdb...or (hd0, hd1...) is done by bios 
and the OS will use whatever the bios determine.

Also this numbering is not consistent with each reboot.

We should always set "master" and "slave" for jumper wires or use correct 
primary or secondary cabling (but if you have 1 master and 2 slaves, the 
slaves will continue to be changeable).


And...use grub2. Grub-legacy 'calls out' partition using (hdx,y) or sdxy 
whereas grub2 'searches' using UUID.


fstab had changed to UUID from sdxy years ago to overcome problems like this.


  hi Goh,
  I don't understand the relation between my question and your answer:
  the problem was with the BIOS boot sequence, and as far as I know,
  this is totally independant of any OS.
  the boot sequnce, which was since the installation, several years ago:

1 dvd drive
2 ST3250410AS

and I found it has been replaced with:
1 dvd drive
2 ST3750640AS

 and the problem disappeared, without any change in grub,
 as soon as I reverted to the original BIOS  boot sequence

 So, my question is still: how can a boot sequence change, without entering
 into BIOS at boot.

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Re: Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[Alan Ianson]

On Tue, 4 Jun 2013 09:56:15 +0100
Anthony Campbell  wrote:

> If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
> were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
> includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.
> 
> Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; particulaly losing apt
> would be a disaster. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

102 packages to be removed here.. I'll try again tomorrow.. :)


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Sid wants to remove lots of packages

[Anthony Campbell]

If I try to install any package I see a list of some 80 packages which
were automatically installed and are no longer required. The list
includes apt, grub-pc-bin, and grub2-common.

Obviously I'm not goint to remove all these; particulaly losing apt
would be a disaster. Anyone else seeing this behaviour?

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Mount Erro

[hatem]

Hello Sir ,


i get this error every time i try to accesses my partitions , Media , 
CD room , mobile mound ,





"DBus error org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.NoReply: Message did not receive 
a reply (timeout by message bus)"


could u help me how to fix it ,
i am using kali 64 bit



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Re: boot fails on wheezy (SOLVED

[Goh Lip]

On 06/04/2013 02:29 PM, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:

On Mon, 4 Jun 2013, Pierre Frenkiel wrote:


After a problem with a ligthscribe dvd, I had to reboot my PC,
 . . .

  At last I found the explanation, which seems rather incredible:

  In my BIOS settings, the boot sequence has been modified,
  the 1st internal disc (ST3250410AS) being replaced by the
  2nd one  (ST3750640AS0  !!!

  That looks really incredible.
  Can anybody explain how can this happen ?

best regards,



The allocation of disk numbering (sda, sdb...or (hd0, hd1...) is done by 
bios and the OS will use whatever the bios determine.

Also this numbering is not consistent with each reboot.

We should always set "master" and "slave" for jumper wires or use 
correct primary or secondary cabling (but if you have 1 master and 2 
slaves, the slaves will continue to be changeable).


And...use grub2. Grub-legacy 'calls out' partition using (hdx,y) or sdxy 
whereas grub2 'searches' using UUID.


fstab had changed to UUID from sdxy years ago to overcome problems like 
this.


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Remplacement for zsafe on wheezy

[Mérof 42]

Hi all,

I used zsafe for storing all my password since a lot of time, it is really
useful for my usage.
It is no present on wheezy, because it is not more maintened I think
All my password are generated by pwgen and changed sometime, so I can't
remember all
Her is the package for squeeze :
http://packages.debian.org/squeeze/zsafe

I need to:

Store different kind of login/password (imap, ssh, jabber, mysql,
webservices, etc...)
Store some field, for example with mysql, I need username, password,
databasename, servername and a comment
Store all these data on a safe place.
If is possible, have different category (I dont need to show all my
password if I need only a mysql for reinstalling a php script).

zsafe do all of that, somebody know something who work like it?

Thanks you all :)

Re: Re (2): Email suggestions

[Klaus]

On 04/06/13 01:47, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

From: Bonno Bloksma 
Date: Mon, 3 Jun 2013 10:26:39 +


Using IMAP means that the mail WILL be left on the server
unless the user moves the mail from the inbox
... IMAP is really useful because they can (re)read mail online
which they already "downloaded" to their PC. Users with multiple
client devices will see the same mail on all devices, with the same (read, 
marked, etc.) status.
...
If you just want them to get their mail then stick with pop3.


There is a way to have the advantages of POP3 and IMAP without
the disadvantage of maintaining storage for users who neglect
the mailbox.  Offer POP3 and not IMAP and tell users to put
their POP3 mbox on a flash storage device which is kept with
the individual.  Plug in the flash device and all the mail is there.
Retrieve the mail to the flash device by POP3 whenever
convenient.  If the flash device is filled with old messages there
is no problem for the server.  When network access is not available,
the messages in the flash are still there.  It's the best of both worlds.

Regards,  ... Peter E.

Except if you are in a corporate environment, where data security is an 
issue.


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Re: mkdosfs -C ...

[Klaus]

On 04/06/13 07:15, Andrei POPESCU wrote:

On Lu, 03 iun 13, 15:06:05, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

Hi,

mkdosfs fails in this case.

=
root@dalton:/media/9D7C-BB83# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 257 MB, 257425408 bytes
6 heads, 26 sectors/track, 3222 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 156 * 512 = 79872 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x8878a0ad

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1  143223  2503686  FAT16
root@dalton:/media/9D7C-BB83# mount | grep sdb
/dev/sdb1 on /media/9D7C-BB83 type vfat 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush)
root@dalton:/media/9D7C-BB83# mkdosfs -v -C /media/9D7C-BB83/FatFile  25
mkdosfs 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010)
mkdosfs: unable to create /media/9D7C-BB83/FatFile


I get a different error with the version in unstable:

# mkdosfs -v -C FatFile 25
mkdosfs 3.0.16 (01 Mar 2013)
mkdosfs: Too few blocks for viable file system

Kind regards,
Andrei



Increase block count a little, and hey presto:

$ sudo mkdosfs -v -C FatFile2 1024
mkdosfs 3.0.16 (01 Mar 2013)
FatFile2 has 64 heads and 32 sectors per track,
logical sector size is 512,
using 0xf8 media descriptor, with 2048 sectors;
file system has 2 12-bit FATs and 4 sectors per cluster.
FAT size is 2 sectors, and provides 502 clusters.
There is 1 reserved sector.
Root directory contains 512 slots and uses 32 sectors.
Volume ID is fa11e184, no volume label.


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Re: mkdosfs -C ...

[Klaus]

On 03/06/13 23:06, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

Hi,

mkdosfs fails in this case.

=
root@dalton:/media/9D7C-BB83# fdisk -l /dev/sdb

Disk /dev/sdb: 257 MB, 257425408 bytes
6 heads, 26 sectors/track, 3222 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 156 * 512 = 79872 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disk identifier: 0x8878a0ad

Device Boot  Start End  Blocks   Id  System
/dev/sdb1  143223  2503686  FAT16
root@dalton:/media/9D7C-BB83# mount | grep sdb
/dev/sdb1 on /media/9D7C-BB83 type vfat 
(rw,nosuid,nodev,uhelper=udisks,uid=1000,gid=1000,shortname=mixed,dmask=0077,utf8=1,showexec,flush)
root@dalton:/media/9D7C-BB83# mkdosfs -v -C /media/9D7C-BB83/FatFile  25
mkdosfs 3.0.9 (31 Jan 2010)
mkdosfs: unable to create /media/9D7C-BB83/FatFile
=

In attempt understand the ouput from fdisk,
257425408/250368 = 1028 suggests that the block size is 1024 or 1028.
fdisk has no mention of such number but tells "Sector size ... 512 bytes".

What is the block size here?
Why did mkdosfs fail?

Thanks for any enlightenment or ideas,   ... Peter E.



Peter

Not sure about the main question of why mkdosfs failed, I tried to 
replicate the situation on a spare USB stick and it just works. That 
said, I didn't understand why you used the -"C" option in this case 
instead of just giving the device name ?


The units reported by fdisk keep confusing me too. I made myself a 
little spread sheet to aid my memory :^)


Each cylinder is nominally divided into tracks that are read by 1 head 
each. Each track is divided into sectors, and these sectors contain a 
number of bytes. Going upwards in size now: In your case the sector size 
is 512 bytes, you've got 26 sectors per head and 6 heads per cylinder. 
26*6=156 sectors per cylinder, 26*6*512=79872 bytes per cylinder.
Now, to make it even more confusing, cylinders sometimes seem to be 
counted from zero. In your case, the total 257425408 bytes divided by 
79872 bytes per cylinder yields 3223 cylinders per disk, not 3222 as 
fdisk -l displays.
Note that partition sdb1 doesn't start at the very beginning of the 
disk, and the 250368 blocks of 1024 bytes each make up only 256376832 
bytes.



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Re: Email suggestions

[Guy Marcenac]

Le 03/06/2013 23:21, Jerry Stuckle a écrit :

> sure they create archive mail folders AND move the mail to those
> folders once the mail is read you will end up with mail on the
> server.

Yes, and that's what concerns me.  I don't know exactly how my users 
manage their inboxes.  If they're as bad as I am, the required space 
can easily get out of hand :)


You could enforce a quota policy. Dovecot implements it, and it looks 
quite easy to setup:

http://wiki2.dovecot.org/Quota

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