Re: Oops!

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:56:56PM -0700, Patrick Bartek wrote:



Could you please provide a meaningful subject relating to your post.

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Re: [Solved] Re: wheezy upgrade -> no sound

[Richard Hector]

On 09/08/13 22:53, msl09 wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Richard Hector  wrote:
>> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
>> Hash: SHA1
>>
>> On 07/08/13 21:22, Darac Marjal wrote:
>> Oh, and alsamixergui doesn't seem to offer a way to switch device,
>> except by commandline options ... so much for gui.
> 
> By switch do you mean mute unmute?

No, I mean choose which device to configure. Easy in alsamixer; not
possible as far as I can see in alsamixergui.

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Oops!

[Patrick Bartek]

Finally got around to installing Pulseaudio-Equalizer on my 64-bit
Wheezy, which by the way is NOT in the Wheezy repos or backports.
However, was able to find a tar.gz file of it from the developer's site,
IIRC. It's been months since I downloaded it.  I've been busy. ;-)

In any case, here's the "problem:"  the equalizer needs
multimedia-volume-control.svg.  A search turned up it was part of
the gnome-control-center-data package.  Not having Gnome on this
system, just a window manager--Openbox--installing the package would
have resulted in Gnome being install, too.  More or less.  So I just did
as root in /root a 'dpkg --download,' and then an '--unpack' thinking
that would uncompress the .deb file in /root from which I would get the
single svg file I needed, and then just delete everything else.  Simple.
Right?  Wrong. Now, I'm stuck with about 4.5 megs of Gnome data, icons,
and config files scattered all over the system that I want to get rid
of before they cause any problems, if any.

My plan is to copy the file I need to someplace safe, then 'dpkg
--purge' the original package to clean the system of it, and copy the
file back to where it needs to be.  Sound okay?  Any expected gotchas?
Any better alternatives?

Thanks.

B


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Backports (was Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy)

[David Guntner]

Martin Steigerwald grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 12:11:30 schrieb David Guntner:
>> In other words, backports packages are specifically compiled and
>> configured for the current stable release (in this case, Wheezy) from
>> the testing (in the case, Sid?) release package.
> 
> David, that doesn´t say anything about my claim.
> 
>> So I'm not sure where you got that idea from. :-)
> 
> AFAIR as I read several times on debian-backports mailinglist on why a 
> package 
> was not considered for backports, if a package from Sid installs into Stable 
> *without* pulling any additional dependencies from Sid, it is not considered 
> for backports.
> 
> I do not have any exact references right now, but that is what I remember.

Ok, I'll take your word for it. :-)

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Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 12:11:30 schrieb David Guntner:
> Martin Steigerwald grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> > Does it need to be in backports?
> 
> That's the preferred location, AFAIK.
> 
> > I think a co-worker has installed it from Sid. I think backports are
> > just created for packages that are not installable from Sid.
> 
> According to the Backports page at http://backports.debian.org/ -
> 
> > Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called
> > "testing"), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable.
> > Because the package is also present in the next Debian release, you
> > can easily upgrade your stable+backports system once the next Debian
> > release comes out.
> 
> In other words, backports packages are specifically compiled and
> configured for the current stable release (in this case, Wheezy) from
> the testing (in the case, Sid?) release package.

David, that doesn´t say anything about my claim.

> So I'm not sure where you got that idea from. :-)

AFAIR as I read several times on debian-backports mailinglist on why a package 
was not considered for backports, if a package from Sid installs into Stable 
*without* pulling any additional dependencies from Sid, it is not considered 
for backports.

I do not have any exact references right now, but that is what I remember.

Thanks,
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Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

[David Guntner]

Martin Steigerwald grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
> Does it need to be in backports?

That's the preferred location, AFAIK.

> I think a co-worker has installed it from Sid. I think backports are
> just created for packages that are not installable from Sid.

According to the Backports page at http://backports.debian.org/ -

> Backports are packages taken from the next Debian release (called
> "testing"), adjusted and recompiled for usage on Debian stable.
> Because the package is also present in the next Debian release, you
> can easily upgrade your stable+backports system once the next Debian
> release comes out.

In other words, backports packages are specifically compiled and
configured for the current stable release (in this case, Wheezy) from
the testing (in the case, Sid?) release package.

So I'm not sure where you got that idea from. :-)

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Re: certificates error with FF23

[Vincenzo Ampolo]

Thank you David.

I'll try to do the same.




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Re: Installing mysqldump

[Bob Proulx]

Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:
> I am trying to install  mysqldump.

Please install "mysql-server".  That will install mysqldump.  Since
you don't have mysqldump I can only assume that you were never able to
install the mysql server.

  apt-get update
  apt-get install mysql-server mysql-client

But that probably won't work until you fix your sources.list problem.

> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  mate-screensaver : Depends: mate-screensaver-common (= 1.6.0-1) but
> it is not going to be installed
>  mysql-client-5.5 : Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not going to be
> installed
> Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl (>= 1.2202) but it is not 
> going to be installed
> You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
>  mate-screensaver : Depends: mate-screensaver-common (= 1.6.0-1) but
> it is not going to be installed
>  mysql-server-core-5.5 : Depends: libaio1 (>= 0.3.93) but it is not going to 
> be installed

Something is broken in your sources.list file.  Fix it first.  Then
run 'apt-get update'.  Then 'apt-get install -f' as suggested above.
Then install mysql-server.  Then you should be working.  This applies
to both your old Squeeze 6 as well as the current Wheezy 7.

I see by your many messages that you have had much trouble in this
area.  I think you have a system that is partially this and partially
that and partially something else.  So I don't really know where to
begin.  Start by posting your current sources.list file.  You need to
fix it first.

Are you trying to be Squeeze 6 with GNOME 2?  Are you trying to be
with Wheezy 7 with Mate?  What is your target goal?  If you don't know
where you are going then you might be late getting there.

Bob


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Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

[Martin Steigerwald]

Am Freitag, 9. August 2013, 13:09:14 schrieb Jochen Spieker:
> Joel Rees:
> > On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sean Alexandre  wrote:
> >> (I had installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want
> >> to install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.)
> > 
> > According to the thread, if things went well, it should be in backports.
> > (I
> > haven't checked.)
> 
> It isn't. But there's this:
> 
> $ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/owncloud.list
> deb
> http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:ownCloud:community/Debian_6.0
> / /

Does it need to be in backports?

I think a co-worker has installed it from Sid. I think backports are just 
created for packages that are not installable from Sid.

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Re: failure to configure and compile a source code.

[Bob Proulx]

atar wrote:
> I've downloaded from bluez.org the source of the 5.7 package but

Any reason not to use the Debian packaged version already in Debian?

> when I ran ./configure on it, it emitted an error message at the
> bottom of all the messages saying:
> 
> "checking for GLIB... no
> configure: error: GLib >= 2.28 is required"
> 
> This, although I've the glib libraries installed.

Please verify that you have the libglib2.0-dev package installed.  It
contains the development libraries.

  dpkg -l libglib2.0-dev

> How can this problem be solved?

The glib development library is probably only the first missing
dependency that you hit.  I am sure there will be a long list of
others that will also need to be installed.

Try installing all of the build dependencies for the building the
Debian package.  This will probably be all that you need.

  apt-get build-dep bluez

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Re: Best practice vsftpd writable root inside chroot()

[Bob Proulx]

Maik Stubbe wrote:
> I need full access from all clients to their home directory
> including uploads. I'm aware of the security risks using ftp. But
> there isn't another option like sftp. ~60 clients with a minimum of
> knowledge of security risks and technical understanding. It will be
> a hard and non-profitable way to switch over to sftp or even http.

To be completely blunt with that constraint I don't know why you worry
about proactive security.  It is impossible.  Sorry.

Instead I would set up intrusion monitoring and try to be reactive.
Hopefully you will be such a small fish that no one will poke at you
and you won't have any problems.  But if you do then you can notice
with the intrusion detection and react quickly afterward.  That might
be enough for you.

> > > 4. Using packages from Jessie: My preffered choice. But how to
> > >control security updates?
> > 
> > Does the Jessie vsftpd allow writable chroots?  Sounds like a bug to
> > be filed to me.
> 
> It is a "problem" of vsftpd. They decided to disable ftp with
> writable $HOME if chroot is enabled [1], [2].
> [1]: https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/Changelog.txt (Version 2.3.5)
> [2]: https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/FAQ.txt (Q3)

Good plan!  :-)  It looks like they did that in 2.3.4.

  v2.3.4 - Add stronger checks for the configuration error of running
  with a writeable root directory inside a chroot(). This may bite
  people who carelessly turned on chroot_local_user but such is life.

Then gave some relief in 2.3.5.

  v2.3.5 - Add new config setting "allow_writeable_chroot" to help
  people in a bit of a spot with the v2.3.5 defensive change. Only
  applies to non-anonymous.

Version 2.3.5 is in Wheezy 7 Stable.  If you are running Stable then
you should already have that feature available to you.  Are you
running Oldstable Squeeze 6?  If so then an upgrade to Stable should
fix you right up.

> It's a matter of old versions in Debian. Jessie provides the newer
> version with the new config setting.

If it is a different feature then you could request a backport from
Testing to Stable.

  http://backports.debian.org/

Bob


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Re: certificates error with FF23

[Erwan David]

Le 09/08/2013 19:20, Vincenzo Ampolo a écrit :
> Erwan David  rail.eu.org> writes:
>
>> My apache server used to work. However, now that firefox 23 is out it
>> gets the error
>>
>> sec_error_inadequate_cert_type
>> certificate type not approuved for application.
> Same error here in both Ubuntu and Windows
>
>
>
That's my server which is on a jessie...

I ran https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest against my site, it found some
problems in the chain to CA.

So I corrected this, sinc I use my own CA, I also regenerated a new CA
and new server certs with longuer key length (2048 instead of 1024), to
be ready for the next browser SSL hardening, and it now works.


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Re: last, lastlog, and desktop sessions

[Bob Proulx]

Joel Rees wrote:
> Joel Rees wrote:
> > I've never been clear about the last command. My memory is that it
> > recorded logins to the desktop as well as to ttyn devices.

To be pedantic the "last" command isn't recording anything.  It is
only reporting what has already been recorded.

> > Today, I'm checking my logs, and I don't see any record of logins
> > to the desktop unless the user also started a shell in a virtual
> > terminal.

That would be due to your xdm, gdm, gdm3, lightdm, kdm or other
graphical login manager.  It is responsible for recording desktop
logins.  Some do.  Some do not.  If they don't then I think that is a
bug.  But people who know about last and logins are becoming fewer
every day and so this part of the system has atrophied.

> > Has this changed recently? I'm I imagining things? Is there some setting
> > that changes this, that might have changed when I upgraded from squeeze to
> > wheezy?

Try different graphical login managers and compare them.

> Okay, I finally decided to log out of my X11 session on my netbook (Fedora)
> and found that my memory was wrong.
>
> last does not report logins to X11 desktop sessions.

What graphical login manager are you using?  As I recall lightdm for
example does not record this information.  I am pretty sure I saw that
there was a bug report on it.  Ah...  Here it is:

  http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=648604

What terminal emulator are you using?  Xterm records this
information.  But I assume that like the desktop managers that some
terminal emulators have fallen out of recording it.  Plus many people
today log into a system and never start a terminal emulator, doing
everything they want to do through other graphical applications.  If a
user only starts a web browser, file manager, office applications,
then there won't be any terminal emulators started.

> Is there a command that does? I've been looking around the web, but so far
> google just tells me that X11 has an error log, which I know about.

What you are asking for is not possible.  If the login manager does
not record the information then that information is not recorded.

> auth.log has the information, but it's mixed with a bunch of other stuff.

Right.

> lightdm/lightdm.log seems to have the information, too, but the time shown
> looks to be time from boot. I could write a script to extract just the
> login lines from auth.log, but I want to think someone has already done it.
> I mean, sure, grep sort of does the job:

I assume you are running Stable?  If you want this functionality then
I suggest trying a different login manager until a fixed version of
lightdm appears.  I do like lightdm.  You could look to see if there
is a backport to Stable.

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Re: certificates error with FF23

[Vincenzo Ampolo]

Erwan David  rail.eu.org> writes:

> 
> My apache server used to work. However, now that firefox 23 is out it
> gets the error
> 
> sec_error_inadequate_cert_type
> certificate type not approuved for application.

Same error here in both Ubuntu and Windows



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Re: Installing mysqldump

[Gary Roach]

On 08/09/2013 08:05 AM, Ethan Rosenberg, PhD wrote:

Dear List -

I am trying to install  mysqldump.

Here is what I get -


apt-get install mysql-client-5.5
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mate-screensaver : Depends: mate-screensaver-common (= 1.6.0-1) but 
it is not going to be installed
 mysql-client-5.5 : Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl (>= 1.2202) but it is 
not going to be installed



apt-get install mysql-core-5.5
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mate-screensaver : Depends: mate-screensaver-common (= 1.6.0-1) but 
it is not going to be installed
 mysql-server-core-5.5 : Depends: libaio1 (>= 0.3.93) but it is not 
going to be installed

===

TIA
Ethan



Ethan;

I find no Debian listing for mysqldump but do find one for mydumper 
which, I think, is what you are really looking for. As for as the rest, 
try apt-get install mysql-client and/or mysql-server. These are wrappers 
that will install the latest versions. Check the Debian Packages page on 
their web site. I don't see mysql-core-5.5 listed.


Gary R.


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certificates error with FF23

[Erwan David]

My apache server used to work. However, now that firefox 23 is out it
gets the error

sec_error_inadequate_cert_type
certificate type not approuved for application.

But I do nit find what the criteria are and what I should do with my
certs for FF23 to work with my site.


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Re: Partitions

[Gary Dale]

On 09/08/13 09:58 AM, Klaus Jantzen wrote:

Hello,

by "some magic" the partitions on a HDD receive a block-id or UUID (for
fstab).

Does the ID of a partition change when the partition is moved or when a
new partition is created
in the unallocated space between two partitions?

Thanks for any info.


No. The UUID stays with the partition as long as it exists.


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Installing mysqldump

[Ethan Rosenberg, PhD]

Dear List -

I am trying to install  mysqldump.

Here is what I get -


apt-get install mysql-client-5.5
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mate-screensaver : Depends: mate-screensaver-common (= 1.6.0-1) but it 
is not going to be installed
 mysql-client-5.5 : Depends: libdbi-perl but it is not going to be 
installed
Depends: libdbd-mysql-perl (>= 1.2202) but it is 
not going to be installed



apt-get install mysql-core-5.5
Reading package lists...
Building dependency tree...
Reading state information...
You might want to run 'apt-get -f install' to correct these:
The following packages have unmet dependencies:
 mate-screensaver : Depends: mate-screensaver-common (= 1.6.0-1) but it 
is not going to be installed
 mysql-server-core-5.5 : Depends: libaio1 (>= 0.3.93) but it is not 
going to be installed

===

TIA
Ethan


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Partitions

[Klaus Jantzen]

Hello,

by "some magic" the partitions on a HDD receive a block-id or UUID (for 
fstab).


Does the ID of a partition change when the partition is moved or when a 
new partition is created

in the unallocated space between two partitions?

Thanks for any info.
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Re: last, lastlog, and desktop sessions

[Joel Rees]

Okay, I finally decided to log out of my X11 session on my netbook (Fedora)
and found that my memory was wrong.

last does not report logins to X11 desktop sessions.

Is there a command that does? I've been looking around the web, but so far
google just tells me that X11 has an error log, which I know about.

auth.log has the information, but it's mixed with a bunch of other stuff.

lightdm/lightdm.log seems to have the information, too, but the time shown
looks to be time from boot. I could write a script to extract just the
login lines from auth.log, but I want to think someone has already done it.
I mean, sure, grep sort of does the job:

sudo grep "lightdm: pam_unix(lightdm:session): session opened for user"
/var/log/auth.log

but I'm sure there's a more general solution.

On Sat, Aug 3, 2013 at 8:39 AM, Joel Rees  wrote:

> I've never been clear about the last command. My memory is that it
> recorded logins to the desktop as well as to ttyn devices. Today, I'm
> checking my logs, and I don't see any record of logins to the desktop
> unless the user also started a shell in a virtual terminal.
>
> Has this changed recently? I'm I imagining things? Is there some setting
> that changes this, that might have changed when I upgraded from squeeze to
> wheezy?
>
> --
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>



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Re: apache logging

[Jeff Bauer]

On 08/09/2013 06:45 AM, msl09 wrote:

I think the apache team would be better to ask this kind of question.
Maybe they have an irc channel.

Check #httpd on irc.freenode.net - 350+ logged in right now.

Regards,

Jeff

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Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

[Jochen Spieker]

Joel Rees:
> On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sean Alexandre  wrote:
> 
>> (I had installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want to
>> install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.)
> 
> According to the thread, if things went well, it should be in backports. (I
> haven't checked.)

It isn't. But there's this:

$ cat /etc/apt/sources.list.d/owncloud.list
deb 
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/isv:ownCloud:community/Debian_6.0/ /


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Re: [Solved] Re: wheezy upgrade -> no sound

[msl09]

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:27 PM, Richard Hector  wrote:
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> Hash: SHA1
>
> On 07/08/13 21:22, Darac Marjal wrote:
> Oh, and alsamixergui doesn't seem to offer a way to switch device,
> except by commandline options ... so much for gui.

By switch do you mean mute unmute?

That feature exists in alsamixer. The M key switches it. Dunno about
alsmixergui though.


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Re: apache logging

[msl09]

I think the apache team would be better to ask this kind of question.
Maybe they have an irc channel.

On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 1:33 PM, Pol Hallen  wrote:
> Hi all :-)
>
> I've several virtual host (for each I've the relative access.log e
> error.log)
>
> [...]
> ErrorLog /home/site1/logs/error.log
> CustomLog /home/site1/logs/access.log combined
> [...]
>
> I need have the merge of each log files of virtual host also to
> /var/log/apache.log (and error.log)
>
> Otherwise is (almost) impossible monitoring my webserver
>
> PS: I known that this procedure create a big impact to performance of
> server.
>
> Any idea?
>
> thanks!
>
> Pol
>
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Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

[Joel Rees]

On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 7:07 PM, Sean Alexandre  wrote:

> I see owncloud is no longer in wheezy, and I'm trying to understand why.
> Where
> can I find information on why a package was pulled from a release?
>
> I see this, but it only seems to say when it was pulled:
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/owncloud.html
>
> It was pulled from testing to unstable on 2013-05-14. I'd like to
> understand why,
> (and how this works in general.)
>
> Is there somewhere else I can check?
>

searched "owncloud debian package wheezy" on Google, got this:

http://debian.2.n7.nabble.com/Dropping-owncloud-from-Wheezy-td2881142.html

Nabble kindly puts the links to the debian archives in:

http://lists.debian.org/debian-release/2013/03/msg00042.html

In brief, the development on owncloud is really fast-paced at this point.
The owncloud developers were maintaining three versions in April and did
not have enough core developer manpower to even keep that up. So, it was
removed at their suggestion.

I'm trying to understand the Debian development process as much as anything.
>

If you can't keep enough developers on it to keep up with security patches,
you don't want it in the repositories.


> (I had installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want
> to
> install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.)
>

According to the thread, if things went well, it should be in backports. (I
haven't checked.)

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Re: owncloud no longer in wheezy

[Sean Alexandre]

On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 06:07:04AM -0400, Sean Alexandre wrote:
> I see owncloud is no longer in wheezy, and I'm trying to understand why. Where
> can I find information on why a package was pulled from a release?
> 
> I see this, but it only seems to say when it was pulled:
> http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/owncloud.html
> 
> It was pulled from testing to unstable on 2013-05-14. I'd like to understand 
> why, 
> (and how this works in general.)
> 
> Is there somewhere else I can check?
> 
> I'm trying to understand the Debian development process as much as anything.
> 
> (I had installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want to
> install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.)

I think I just found the answer to my question, here:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=owncloud#_4_2_5

owncloud 4.0 (the version that was in wheezy testing) had a serious bug. It's
been fixed, but in the next release: owncloud 5.0. But, wheezy had already been
frozen by that time and so owncloud got pulled.

So next time I'll check the "Bugs in source package" link to understand
why a package got pulled from a release:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?repeatmerged=no&src=owncloud


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owncloud no longer in wheezy

[Sean Alexandre]

I see owncloud is no longer in wheezy, and I'm trying to understand why. Where
can I find information on why a package was pulled from a release?

I see this, but it only seems to say when it was pulled:
http://packages.qa.debian.org/o/owncloud.html

It was pulled from testing to unstable on 2013-05-14. I'd like to understand 
why, 
(and how this works in general.)

Is there somewhere else I can check?

I'm trying to understand the Debian development process as much as anything.

(I had installed owncloud on a wheezy box when wheezy was testing. I want to
install it again, but this time on wheezy stable.)


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failure to configure and compile a source code.

[atar]

Hi there!!

My machine is running Debian Wheezy from the live-boot Debian project  
which is installed on my USB stick.


I've downloaded from bluez.org the source of the 5.7 package but when I  
ran ./configure on it, it emitted an error message at the bottom of all  
the messages saying:


"checking for GLIB... no
configure: error: GLib >= 2.28 is required"

This, although I've the glib libraries installed.

How can this problem be solved?

Thanks in advance!!

atar.


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Fwd: Re: an other question about installer

[François Patte]

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Sujet: Re: an other question about installer
Date : Fri, 09 Aug 2013 09:53:18 +0200
De : François Patte 
Organisation : Université Paris Descartes
Pour : g62993...@rezozer.net

Le 09/08/2013 07:14, Jerome BENOIT a écrit :
> Bonjour,
>
> On 08/08/13 23:34, François Patte wrote:
>> Bonsoir,
>>
>> I encounter a difficulty while partitionning.
>>
>> The situation:
>>
>> 4 disks:
>>
>> 2 "old" HDD with the previous install (fedora 10). These 2 disks
>> contain 2 raid(1) arrays, one with the / partition and one with the
>> system (/usr, /var, /tmp, /tmp, /home) using LVM.
>>
>> 2 SSD that I intend to configurate in the same way as the HDD: 2
>> raid(1) arrays (/boot and the rest (except /home, /var, /tmp),
>> including /), using LVM.
>>
>> The installer reads:
>>
>> device RAID1 n°0  ext3 (old HDDs, first array) device RAID1 n°1 lvm
>> (old HDDs, second array) device RAID1 n°2 ext4 (SSDs, first array)
>> device RAID1 n°3 lvm (SSDs, second array)
>>
>> SCSI1 (sda) with 2 raid devices (1st SSD) SCSI2 (sdb) with 2 raid
>> devices (2nd SSD) SCSI5 (sdc)  with 2 raid devices (1st HDD) SCSI6
>> (sdd)  with 2 raid devices (2nd HDD)
>>
>> I could configurate device RAID n°2 giving the mount point (/boot)
>> and ext4 formatting.
>>
>> When I want to configurate the lvm on device RAID n°3, the
>> installer returns:
>>
>> before the LVM could be configurated, the actual scheme of
>> partitionment must be set down. *These changes will be
>> irreversible*.
>>
>> <..>
>>
>> The following partition tables will be changed: RAID1 n°2: SCSI5
>> (0,0,0) (sdc) SCSI6 (0,0,0) (sdd)
>>
>> The following partitions will be formated: partition 1 on device
>> RAID1 n°2, type ext4
>>
>>
>> I am upset by this:
>>
>> 1- RAID device n°2 is supposed to be the first array on SSDs
>> corresponding to sda and sdb (and not sdc and sdd)
>>
>> 2- I don't want to change anything in RAID devices n°0 and n°1 (sdc
>> and sdd) because I want to keep the old system untill the new one
>> will be installed on the SSD (sda and sdb) *and* I want to use the
>> /home partition of these old disks as the /home of the new
>> installation
>>
>> (Everything is backed up but I prefer to understand what is
>> going on here!)
>>
>>
>> I hope to have been clear enough: I am not a computer scientist
>> and English language is not my mother tongue... So I could have
>> done some mistakes and did not use the right vocabulary.
>
> I am not a computer scientist either, but I am somehow familiar with
> computers in labs.
>
> Given the situation, to simplify your life: 1] make a backup of your
> /home on an external haddrive (an effective external hard drive, on
> an other computer, ...); 2] forget the Fedora stuff and install
> Debian from _scratch_ ; 3] after installation, backup back you /home
> folder (and check that the former privilege policy of your /home is
> compatible with the Debian policy).
>
> I can not help on what is really going on, but by experience, to put
> it simply, I know that Fedora is ``messy'' (compare to Debian): if
> you keep your Fedora material, you may encounter minor but annoying
> difference (as different version, different default options, ...)
> that may pollute you life not only during the installation but also
> afterwards.
>
> Installing from scratch may seem a waste of time, but it is not in
> fact because you de facto discard a long list of potential highly
> annoying and subtil issues. On the list, you will even find some
> people that encourage installation from scratch for Debian release
> upgrading. Anyway, the waste of time will be due mainly to backups:
> during backups, take a break, drink cups of tea, or read Debian
> manuals.

This is quite frustrating!

1- I want to keep my fedora system (which I can boot choosing the right
disk in the bios) untill the debian installation will be finished and
configurated.

2- I could unplug the fedora disks but, I want to install some
debian partitions on these disks (/var, /tmp and swap) to avoid too much
writing on the SSDs.

3- Note that the installer message seems faulty: RAID n°2 is concerned
by sda and sdb only.

4- The message says that "the following partition tables (sdc, sdd) will
be changed" not re-formated. What changes? I don't know! And, still,
these disks are not concerned by the LVM on the other disks (as far as I
know)


Or this message merely says that a new LVM will be running and something
has to be changed/added to take that new LVM into account. In that case
the message is inapropriate; how to be sure?

Thanks for the answer.

>
> Bon courage,

Merci. J'aimerais quand même ne pas avancer les yeux fermés!

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Re: Best practice vsftpd writable root inside chroot()

[Maik Stubbe]

> > 1. Using no ftp -> no chance
> 
> You didn't say but are you using ftp for upload access?  Since ftp
> sends passwords in the clear it is unsuitable in these days of a
> hostile Internet for any purpose other than anonymous downloading.
> 

I need full access from all clients to their home directory including uploads. 
I'm aware of the security risks using ftp. But there isn't another option like 
sftp. ~60 clients with a minimum of knowledge of security risks and technical 
understanding. It will be a hard and non-profitable way to switch over to sftp 
or even http.

> > 2. Avoid using chroot is in my opinion a bad idea on a public
> >accessable ftpd.
> 
> But you are already using ftp.  Talking about security at that point
> is like putting a heavy duty lock on a screen door.  No matter how
> good the lock it is still a screen door and won't stop anyone who
> wants to run through it.
> 
> > 3. Compiling vsftpd >3.0 from source and using
> >allow_writeable_chroot=YES: This would lead in using non Debian
> >packages and watching them seperatly.
> 
> Use a Debian watch file.  See the 'uscan' program for details.  But
> you can have it automatically notify you when new versions arrive.
> 

Sounds interessting. I will have a look...

> > 4. Using packages from Jessie: My preffered choice. But how to
> >control security updates?
> 
> Does the Jessie vsftpd allow writable chroots?  Sounds like a bug to
> be filed to me.
> 

It is a "problem" of vsftpd. They decided to disable ftp with writable $HOME if 
chroot is enabled [1], [2]. It's a matter of old versions in Debian. Jessie 
provides the newer version with the new config setting.


Regards



[1]: https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/Changelog.txt (Version 2.3.5)
[2]: https://security.appspot.com/vsftpd/FAQ.txt (Q3)



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