Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip

2013-10-03 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 11:12:35PM +0100, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Monday 23 September 2013 12:54:42 Chris Bannister wrote:
> > Here, some people (esp. the media) have this annoying habit of
> > saying "dub dub dub" instead of "WWW"
> 
> What about dubya dubya dubya?  I always hear that as Dubya (i.e. a 
> name!). ;-)

You mean like George Dubya Bush? :)

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Re: Arduino TRE

2013-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 10/3/2013 7:59 PM, Beco wrote:

On 3 October 2013 18:21, Stan Hoeppner  wrote:

[1] http://blog.arduino.cc/2013/10/03/a-sneak-preview-of-arduino-tre/


You need to ask on the Debian ARM mailing list, or search the archive.

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Thanks Stan! :)

I just did. I hope I can ask without subscribing and read from
archives, because it was more of a chat I would ask this list, than
subscribing to such specific mailing list as debian arm.

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You can read from the archives, but I highly recommend you just 
subscribe.  It isn't that heavily used, and isn't going to fill your 
mailbox.


Additionally, trying to reply from the archives will most probably break 
the thread.


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Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Ross Boylan wrote:
> Bob Proulx wrote:
> > I think that file must have been removed at some point.  I have
> > the qemu-kvm package (which owns that file) installed but do not have
> > that file on my system.  The qemu-kvm.postinst script in the current
> > package removes the conffile.  So just a note that the file doesn't
> > exist in recent versions.
>
> I just installed qemu-kvm (1.1.2) on a brand new wheezy system.  Are you
> saying wheezy doesn't have it, or that it was removed later?

Removed later.  I have qemu-kvm 1.6.0+dfsg-1 installed and it does am
rm_conffile on that file.

> After I get the networking fixed I will likely backport a more recent
> version, since I'm having other "issues" as well.

On Squeeze and Wheezy systems I don't have any significant problems
with any of my KVM VMs.  Networking and all of that works fine.

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Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-03 Thread Ross Boylan
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 5:14 PM, Bob Proulx  wrote:

> Greg has made some excellent explanation and answers.  I wanted to
> comment on a few other things.
>
> Ross Boylan wrote:
> 
> > Arun made a suggestion that
> > > Your 'physical' device eth0/eth2 or whatever needs to be added to the
> > bridge.
> > I believe that is done by the /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup script that is executed
> > when I launch the virtual machine.
>
> I think that file must have been removed at some point.  I have
> the qemu-kvm package (which owns that file) installed but do not have
> that file on my system.  The qemu-kvm.postinst script in the current
> package removes the conffile.  So just a note that the file doesn't
> exist in recent versions.
>
I just installed qemu-kvm (1.1.2) on a brand new wheezy system.  Are you
saying wheezy doesn't have it, or that it was removed later?

After I get the networking fixed I will likely backport a more recent
version, since I'm having other "issues" as well.

Ross

>
> > One thing I struggled with was that qemu-kvm, via the /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup
> > script I mentioned above, does some stuff automatically.  Help that is
> > written without that in mind tends to include instructions that either
> > duplicate or, perhaps, are at cross-purposes with it.
>
> And since that file was removed I assume it was problematic for others
> as well.
>
> Bob
>


Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Greg has made some excellent explanation and answers.  I wanted to
comment on a few other things.

Ross Boylan wrote:
> My wireless router is currently serving as a dhcp server; it has a reserved
> IP for the system under discussion.

Okay.  That will work.

I don't prefer it for a serious server configuration though.  Mostly
because it uses the new event driven route through the scripts and
some traditional server software (nis/yp for example) hasn't fully
caught up to this yet.  And because it means that two systems, the
dhcp server and the dhcp client, are now tangled together in order for
everything to be functioning correctly.  But in general it should work
okay.

> This is not the long-run plan.  The router keeps flaking out,
> perhaps in part because of some interaction with the bridging:

The router should not care that you are using a bridge on your client
or not.  Using a bridge on your system shoulid not cause your router
problems.

> I've had 2 or 3 problems since I started the bridging, and none
> since I took it down.  I solve them by power cycling the router; I
> haven't diagnosed them further.

Strange.  I think you router problems are either something unrelated
there or a misdiagnosis on your system.

> That configuration did not work after a system restart: no packets
> traveled to outside networks.

I can see that something was broken.  But that doesn't mean that
network bridges don't work.  Just that you haven't used a working
configuration yet.

> As to " why you tap as bridge port intend of eth2?" I don't understand the
> question, even reading "intend" as "instead".  But basically I was just
> copying a configuration and had no deep reason.

Sorry for the typo.  Yes you read it correctly.  I think Greg jumped
into that one with good explanation so I will leave it there.

> Arun made a suggestion that
> > Your 'physical' device eth0/eth2 or whatever needs to be added to the
> bridge.
> I believe that is done by the /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup script that is executed
> when I launch the virtual machine.

I think that file must have been removed at some point.  I have
the qemu-kvm package (which owns that file) installed but do not have
that file on my system.  The qemu-kvm.postinst script in the current
package removes the conffile.  So just a note that the file doesn't
exist in recent versions.

> One thing I struggled with was that qemu-kvm, via the /etc/kvm/kvm-ifup
> script I mentioned above, does some stuff automatically.  Help that is
> written without that in mind tends to include instructions that either
> duplicate or, perhaps, are at cross-purposes with it.

And since that file was removed I assume it was problematic for others
as well.

Bob


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Re: Arduino TRE

2013-10-03 Thread Beco
On 3 October 2013 18:21, Stan Hoeppner  wrote:
>> [1] http://blog.arduino.cc/2013/10/03/a-sneak-preview-of-arduino-tre/
>
> You need to ask on the Debian ARM mailing list, or search the archive.
>
> --
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Thanks Stan! :)

I just did. I hope I can ask without subscribing and read from
archives, because it was more of a chat I would ask this list, than
subscribing to such specific mailing list as debian arm.

My best,
Beco



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Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Francesco Pietra wrote:
> Did you use a recent version of the installer? What I would like to know -
> before reinstalling everything on my servers - is whether the option to set
> grub on both disks of raid 0 has now been introduced.

I recall that it has been added with Wheezy.  But let me put forward
that it doesn't really matter.  If you have RAID then you know you
want grub on both disks.  After installing simply run the grub install
script against both disks manually and then you will be assured that
it has been installed on both disks.

I agree with the other responder.  It is unlikely IMNHO that you want
RAID0 (striping) for the system disk.  You most likely want RAID1
(mirroring) instead.  The answer above is the same regardless.  If you
are thinking striping for performance instead I recommend using an SSD
for the system disk.

Bob


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Re: Re: VLC freezes system

2013-10-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Anubhav wrote:
> But the freeze happens only when I use vlc, to be more specific it
> happens when I click on a video file, after watching two-three videos

If it only happens when you play video then look at your video driver
subsystem.

What video card and driver are you using?

Is this a Flash video?  If so what version of Flash are you using?
Have you updated Flash to the latest available version?

Bob


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Re: Re (3): autostarting a terminal.

2013-10-03 Thread Bob Proulx
peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
> Pontus Goffe wrote:
> > And what if the shellscript needs to be prefixed with sudo?

But sudo will want to ask you for your password.  If you are doing
that in a graphical context then you would use "gksudo" not "sudo".

> Certainly this desktop autostart technology has limitations.  I
> haven't found a way to execute a shell function in a terminal, aside
> from putting the function in a script.

Right.  A shell function is internal to the shell that loaded it.
Putting it in a shell script is the best way to do it.

> A specification for a ~/.config/autostart/*.desktop file is here.
> http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html

JFTR I think the ~/.config/autostart/*.desktop to autostart user
applications when there isn't otherwise any other startup file is a
fine way to do things.  It is portable across the current desktop
session manager environments (GNOME, KDE, LXDE, XFCE) that are popular
today.  Those (like me) that are not using those heavy desktops
already know what we need to do to start those up using our preferred
environments.  I am using them for other people when they want to
automatically start a web browser at graphical login time for example.

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Re: [OT]Re: any utility to change ip

2013-10-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Monday 23 September 2013 12:54:42 Chris Bannister wrote:
> Here, some people (esp. the media) have this annoying habit of
> saying "dub dub dub" instead of "WWW"

What about dubya dubya dubya?  I always hear that as Dubya (i.e. a 
name!). ;-)

Lisi


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Re: Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread Bob Proulx
Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> But people using the same userid/password on multiple sites is still
> a huge problem.  That's why hacking relatively innocuous sites to
> get userid/password lists is so big; they really don't care about
> breaking into that site (which typically isn't as secure as your
> bank, or good eCommerce sites, for instance).  What they want are
> the userids and passwords which are also used on more secure sites.
> That's why the recommendation to use different passwords (even if
> you use the same userid) on different sites.

Agreed.  This article states that the average web user has 25 accounts
but uses an average of 6.5 passwords across them.  I think that is a
low number of accounts for the average user these days.

If anyone is reusing account names and passwords hopefully this
article will scare them out of that bad practice.  (shudder)

  Why passwords have never been weaker—and crackers have never been stronger
  http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/08/passwords-under-assault/

And of course everything worth discussing has already been on XKCD.

  Password Reuse
  http://xkcd.com/792/

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Re: Arduino TRE

2013-10-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/3/2013 2:55 PM, Beco wrote:
> Hi guys,
> 
> Anyone have tested this Arduino TRE [1] with Debian?
> 
> I'm very happy such enterprises still believe in, and produce hardware
> to linux! :)
> 
> I bet this  1-GHz Sitara AM335x processor is very fast, suitable for
> most end-users to do basic stuff, like a small office or something.
> 
> Cheers,
> Beco.
> 
> [1] http://blog.arduino.cc/2013/10/03/a-sneak-preview-of-arduino-tre/

You need to ask on the Debian ARM mailing list, or search the archive.

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Re: Building computer

2013-10-03 Thread Stan Hoeppner
On 10/3/2013 7:49 AM, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Thursday 03 October 2013 05:52:06 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>>  In my early 40s
> 
> A mere strippling!  And there was I pegging you as a sage*. ;-)
> 
> Lisi
> 
> * a teacher venerable for years, and of sound judgment (Wiktionary)

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> P.S. Sorry Stan - I did not mean to send to you personally.  I am 
> trying to train myself not to click on reply for the list, but not 
> being very successful.  Old dogs and new tricks? ;-(

No apology necessary.  I'm on many open lists (LKML) where hitting
reply-to-list only goes to the sender.  So I've been guilty myself a few
times.

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Re: network/bridging problems

2013-10-03 Thread Gregory Nowak
On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 09:44:31AM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> Greg, thanks for explaining this.  I'm still puzzled about one point, below.
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:10 PM, Gregory Nowak  wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, Oct 02, 2013 at 12:40:26PM -0700, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > > Can anyone explain to me what difference between tap and the bridge is?
> > > They both seem to do the same thing*, but apparently tap needs to be
> > hooked
> > > in to a bridge.  And for some reason the qemu/kvm docs seems to recommend
> > > tap.
> >
> > Ok, let me try to explain. If I'm wrong here, then someone who knows
> > better please jump in and correct me. Let's use a physical analogy. A
> > tap device is a virtual network device VS. a physical eth device which
> > is a card/chip in your computer. They both pass ethernet traffic, but
> > ethx is physical, and tapx is virtual.
> >
> > Now, sticking to physical analogies, pretend you have standard
> > ethernet cables, and an ethernet switch. Your ethx, and tapx devices
> > are ethernet cables. Your brx device is the network switch. When you
> > bridge ethernet interfaces like eth0 and tap0 into a single bridge
> > device like br0, you're doing the equivalent of plugging your ethernet
> > cables into an ethernet switch. When you do that, your bridge becomes
> > a single network device. Traffic from any of the eth/tap interfaces
> > bridged together is seen by all other eth/tap interfaces on that
> > bridge. So, maybe I should have compared the bridge to a network hub,
> > instead of a switch.
> >
> > Ok, here's where my analogy breaks down. When you bridge an ethx
> > interface, you don't use that interface anymore. So, if you bridge
> > your eth0 interface into an br0 bridge a line like iface eth0 in your
> > /etc/network/interfaces line becomes iface br0 instead.
> >
> 
> I think this means eth2 will not have an IP address, but br0 will.

Correct.

> But how do packets reach the host machine?  By analogy with hub, packets
> enter and go to all machines, which pick out the IP address meant for
> them.  But if the IP address is that of the hub, how does the host machine
> know the packets are for it.
> 
> I guess this is why you say the analogy breaks down.  And I guess the
> bridge IP serves as the IP address of the host machine, whether it is being
> contacted by the guest or other physical machines on the network.
> 

Correct again.

> 
> > You have a line that says bridge_ports all tap0 in your interfaces
> > file, and that worries me. If I understand correctly, that line
> > combines all ethx interfaces on your system into a single bridge,
> >
> that's my understanding
> 
> > which likely isn't what you want. You also seem to have eth0 through
> > eth2 on your system.
> 
> At the moment there's only one cable going into the machine at eth2.  But
> that won't always be the case,
> so I think I should change it as you suggest.
> 

If you have only one of your ethx cards connected, then it won't
matter. You will probably want to change things though if you connect
cables to eth0/eth1.

> > Do you really want the virtual machine to be able
> > to communicate over all three interfaces?
> 
> I might want to attach to the LAN and WAN in the future; I guess I should
> create 2 bridges in that case.
> 

That's what I would do myself, since I want to keep my LAN and WAN
separated from each other.

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Re: Default directory to put ".mo" file (language)

2013-10-03 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/03/2013 09:14 PM, Linux-Fan wrote:
> Debian Packages install their files directly below /usr, that is
> /usr/share/local in your case, game binary at /usr/bin, game data at

I missed an 'e': it should be /usr/share/locale (and not
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Arduino TRE

2013-10-03 Thread Beco
Hi guys,

Anyone have tested this Arduino TRE [1] with Debian?

I'm very happy such enterprises still believe in, and produce hardware
to linux! :)

I bet this  1-GHz Sitara AM335x processor is very fast, suitable for
most end-users to do basic stuff, like a small office or something.

Cheers,
Beco.

[1] http://blog.arduino.cc/2013/10/03/a-sneak-preview-of-arduino-tre/




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Re: Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 10/3/2013 3:20 PM, John Hasler wrote:

Jerry Stuckle writes:

Plus, this being a Debian list, there are few Linux virii and trojans
out there.


Can you name any?



Not off hand, but then that doesn't mean there aren't any.

Jerry


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Re: Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread John Hasler
Jerry Stuckle writes:
> Plus, this being a Debian list, there are few Linux virii and trojans
> out there.

Can you name any?
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Re: Default directory to put ".mo" file (language)

2013-10-03 Thread Linux-Fan
On 10/03/2013 07:49 AM, Beco wrote:
> Hi mentors,
> 
> Please,
> 
> Would I better use
> 
> /usr/share/locale
> 
> or
> 
> /usr/local/share/locale

Debian Packages install their files directly below /usr, that is
/usr/share/local in your case, game binary at /usr/bin, game data at
/usr/share/packagename. Installing a program from its makefile (via make
install) usually installs the application below /usr/local.

For further information consult the Filesystem Hierarchy Standard:
$ man hier

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Re: bind9

2013-10-03 Thread Karl E. Jorgensen
Hi

On Thu, Oct 03, 2013 at 07:28:46PM +0200, Pawe?? Ch. wrote:
> Hi list
> 
> I install bind9 server on debian (https://wiki.debian.org/Bind9). When I add
> named.conf.log entries bind9 can't start. Before adding log entries bind work
> correctly.

Without more information, diagnostics is guesswork at best

What error message do you get in /var/log/daemon.log?

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Re: Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 10/3/2013 11:47 AM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:

From:   Jerry Stuckle 
Date:   Thu, 03 Oct 2013 09:27:28 -0400

... [local user compromise(?) is] not where the leaks occur.


If someone can review the greatest hazards or give a link to
a document, that would help many of us.


[Managing userids and passwords] not all that hard if you come up with a system.


Clever idea.  My system wasn't so simple and effective.

Thanks,   ... Peter E.




I don't know of a single place where that information is available.

I've learned it from years (around 18) of programming on the internet, 
lots of newsletters and understanding how reported incidents occurred.


It used to be the biggest threat was things like key loggers being 
installed on users' computers by trojans, capturing passwords and 
sending them over the internet.  But most people (at least the smart 
ones) are now running some type of anti-virus software which catches 
that entry.  It is still a problem, but not as much as other ways. 
Plus, this being a Debian list, there are few Linux virii and trojans 
out there.  Plus, running as a non-root user limits what a trojan can do.


But people using the same userid/password on multiple sites is still a 
huge problem.  That's why hacking relatively innocuous sites to get 
userid/password lists is so big; they really don't care about breaking 
into that site (which typically isn't as secure as your bank, or good 
eCommerce sites, for instance).  What they want are the userids and 
passwords which are also used on more secure sites.  That's why the 
recommendation to use different passwords (even if you use the same 
userid) on different sites.


There are other ways also, but we're really getting off topic for this list.

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Re: texlive: eurosans.sty missing

2013-10-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Curt wrote:


A non-exhaustive google search seems to indicate the file has
indeed disappeared from Wheezy.


  You are luckier (or more clever) than me: a google search only gives me
  my own posts!


I can't find it here :
http://packages.debian.org/stable/texlive


  this gives, for texlive-latex-recommended, exactly the same  list I've
  put in my previous post


When and why it vanished, I don't know.  Maybe it's some sort of
licensing issue.


  It's difficult to understand: eurosans disappeared on my 2
  computers (laptop and desktop) and there was no package upgrade for
  texlive-latex-recommended
  I would like to know if this happened to other Wheezy users

  Anyway, thank you for your replies.

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bind9

2013-10-03 Thread Paweł Ch .
Hi list

I install bind9 server on debian (https://wiki.debian.org/Bind9). When I
add named.conf.log entries bind9 can't start. Before adding log entries
bind work correctly.

Best Regards


Re: texlive: eurosans.sty missing

2013-10-03 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-03, Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:
>
>   hi Curt,
>   what do  you mean by pertinent "info"?
>   Until July 17(which is the last time I ran latex), the file eurosans.sty
>   was present, and on September 30, it was missing.
>   Of course I tried to find it on my discs ("locate eurosans" being the
>   best tool for that) otherwise I wouldn't have to download it from CTAN.

Well, for instance, you're running wheezy would've been a start
pertinent-info wise.

I'm running squeeze.

A non-exhaustive google search seems to indicate the file has
indeed disappeared from Wheezy. I can't find it here :

http://packages.debian.org/stable/texlive

When and why it vanished, I don't know.  Maybe it's some sort of
licensing issue.

Sorry not to be helpful.


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Re: Creating various type of installer

2013-10-03 Thread Antispammbox-debian


Hi

I have installed Wheezy minimal without DE

and: apt-get build-dep debian-installer  fakeroot

try with:

fakeroot make build_netboot

But show an message: no rule for make, stop!

Thanks

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Re: How to install latest VLC 2.1.0 in debian

2013-10-03 Thread Antispammbox-debian


Hi

You cannot explain best?


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Re (3): autostarting a terminal.

2013-10-03 Thread peasthope
From:   Pontus Goffe 
Date:   Thu, 03 Oct 2013 07:17:18 +0200
> And what if the shellscript needs to be prefixed with sudo?

Certainly this desktop autostart technology has limitations.  I haven't found a 
way to execute a shell function in a terminal, aside from putting the function 
in a script.

A specification for a ~/.config/autostart/*.desktop file is here.
http://standards.freedesktop.org/desktop-entry-spec/desktop-entry-spec-latest.html

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Re (3): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread peasthope
From:   Jerry Stuckle 
Date:   Thu, 03 Oct 2013 09:27:28 -0400
> ... [local user compromise(?) is] not where the leaks occur.

If someone can review the greatest hazards or give a link to 
a document, that would help many of us.

> [Managing userids and passwords] not all that hard if you come up with a 
> system. 

Clever idea.  My system wasn't so simple and effective.

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Re: texlive: eurosans.sty missing

2013-10-03 Thread Pierre Frenkiel

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013, Curt wrote:


Nobody can know (at least I don't think so) how the file might have
"disappeared" (if indeed that is the case) as you give little pertinent
info.
Latex can't find it, but can you?


 hi Curt,
 what do  you mean by pertinent "info"?
 Until July 17(which is the last time I ran latex), the file eurosans.sty
 was present, and on September 30, it was missing.
 Of course I tried to find it on my discs ("locate eurosans" being the
 best tool for that) otherwise I wouldn't have to download it from CTAN.


curty@einstein:~$ locate eurosans >
 /usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/fonts/eurofont/README.eurosans.gz


  my tree for the texlive-fonts-recommended package  is slightly different:
 /usr/share/texlive/texmf-dist/tex/
 but it contains no eurosans directory.
  I am on Wheezy since more than 1 year, and the texlive-latex-recommended
  version is 2012.20120611-5

curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache search eurosans 
texlive-fonts-recommended - TeX Live: Recommended fonts


  it seems that you don't have the same version as me:
  are you on wheezy?

==> apt-cache show texlive-latex-recommended
 This package includes the following CTAN packages:
  anysize -- A simple package to set up document margins.
  booktabs -- Publication quality tables in LaTeX
  caption -- Customising captions in floating environments.
  cite -- Improved citation handling in LaTeX.
  cmap --
  crop -- Support for cropmarks.
  ctable -- Easily typeset centered tables.
  ec -- Computer modern fonts in T1 and TS1 encodings.
  eso-pic -- Add picture commands (or backgrounds) to every page.
  euler -- Use AMS Euler fonts for math.
  extsizes -- Extend the standard classes' size options.
  fancybox -- Variants of \fbox and other games with boxes.
  fancyref -- A LaTeX package for fancy cross-referencing.
  fancyvrb -- Sophisticated verbatim text.
  float -- Improved interface for floating objects.
  fontspec -- Advanced font selection in XeLaTeX and LuaLaTeX.
  fp -- Fixed point arithmetic.
  index -- Extended index for LaTeX including multiple indexes.
  jknapltx -- Miscellaneous packages by Joerg Knappen.
  koma-script -- A bundle of versatile classes and packages
  l3kernel -- LaTeX3 programming conventions.
  l3packages -- High-level LaTeX3 concepts.
  l3experimental -- Experimental LaTeX3 concepts.
  listings -- Typeset source code listings using LaTeX.
  mdwtools -- Miscellaneous tools by Mark Wooding.
  memoir -- Typeset fiction, non-fiction and mathematical books.
  metalogo -- Extended TeX logo macros.
  mh -- The MH bundle
  microtype -- An interface to the micro-typographic features of pdfTeX.
  ms -- Various LaTeX packages by Martin Schroder.
  ntgclass -- "European" versions of standard classes.
  parskip -- Layout with zero \parindent, non-zero \parskip.
  pdfpages -- Include PDF documents in LaTeX.
  powerdot -- A presentation class.
  psfrag -- Replace strings in encapsulated PostScript figures.
  rcs -- Use RCS (revision control system) tags in LaTeX documents.
  rotating -- Rotation tools, including rotated full-page floats.
  sansmath -- Maths in a sans font.
  section -- Modifying section commands in LaTeX.
  seminar -- Make overhead slides.
  sepnum -- Print numbers in a "friendly" format.
  setspace -- Set space between lines.
  subfig -- Figures broken into subfigures
  textcase -- Case conversion ignoring mathematics, etc.
  thumbpdf -- Thumbnails for pdfTeX and dvips/ps2pdf.
  typehtml -- Typeset HTML directly from LaTeX.
  underscore -- Control the behaviour of "_" in text.
  url -- Verbatim with URL-sensitive line breaks.
  xkeyval -- Extension of the keyval package.

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Re: VLC freezes system

2013-10-03 Thread Anubhav Yadav
On Thu, 2013-10-03 at 08:50 -0400, Gary Dale wrote:
> Memtest

I'll do the memory test and report, however I would like to mention that
I have 8 gigs of ram, and its a 65 bit laptop. Let me know if that
information is enough!
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Re: Building computer

2013-10-03 Thread Rhiamom

> On Oct 3, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Stan Hoeppner  wrote:
> 
> If your broadband router has QOS features, many newer models do, you
> should be able to program it to give priority to game traffic.  That
> would prevent the lag and stutter due to Skype or any other traffic.
> It's usually pretty easy to setup, if it supports it.  Shoot me the
> make/model# and I'll tell you if it does, and if so I'll point you to
> the instructions.

No, thank you. I am acting as if I have no clue about this at home. This 
is because that weekly piano lesson is more important than my silly game.
I would have to prioritize the Skype traffic. I don't usually raid that night, 
Monday, as the raids are full of the last chance of the week losers. It's not
a big issue. But I am no stranger to opening ports for bit torrent clients, and
 even WoW for those background downloads.

We have a "modem" so old it doesn't even have wireless capability, so we have 
our own wireless router.

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Re: VLC freezes system

2013-10-03 Thread Gary Dale

On 03/10/13 03:50 AM, Anubhav wrote:

But the freeze happens only when I use vlc, to be more specific it
happens when I click on a video file, after watching two-three videos




But have you tested your memory? Have you looked at the log files?

Note also that Memtest doesn't always show all problems. I've seen a 
couple of systems where combined disk and CPU activity also causes 
lockups due to the memory not being fast enough. Reducing the BIOS 
memory speed fixed it - even though memtest showed no errors at the full 
speed.



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Re: How to install latest VLC 2.1.0 in debian

2013-10-03 Thread Umarzuki Mochlis
2013/10/3 Anubhav Yadav :
> Changed the subject of the thread.  Maybe that will help to get rid of the
> freeze.
>
>
> Sent from Samsung Mobile
>
> Anubhav  wrote:

deb-multimedia repo

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How to install latest VLC 2.1.0 in debian

2013-10-03 Thread Anubhav Yadav
Changed the subject of the thread.  Maybe that will help to get rid of the 
freeze. 


Sent from Samsung MobileAnubhav  wrote:null

Re: Re (2): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread Jerry Stuckle

On 10/3/2013 8:45 AM, Joel Rees wrote:

On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Jerry Stuckle  wrote:

On 10/2/2013 12:24 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:


From:   Joel Rees 
Date:   Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:30:26 +0900


[...]



And accessing your bank logged in as the same user that you use to
surf random sites is one of the primary causes of leaked bank account
numbers and passwords.



The banking information is stored in a cookie.  Subsequently a site other
than the bank is allowed to read the cookie?  A failure of the browser.
Correct?  Prior to studying this thoroughly, I might stick to personal
banking.



Not if your browser is working properly.  Cookies can only be sent to the
domain which originated them (and, depending on the cookie options,
subdomains of the main domain).


subdomains.

And too many places, bank sites included, outsource parts of their
sites. Particularly ad-related stuff.



It doesn't matter if they outsource parts of their sites.  Those 
outsourced sites will have different domains, and the cookies cannot be 
sent to them.


And no bank would be stupid enough to create a subdomain and hand it 
over to some unknown entity.  They wouldn't be in business for long if 
they did.



I play it safe and limit logging in to my bank to a user that does
nothing but logging into that bank. Hey, it's my computer, I can add
users all I like.



Which doesn't make any difference because that's not where the leaks occur.


And I try to avoid logging in to the bank, but the bank sometimes
requires me to log in to do certain things, now.



I would hope they require logging in to do *anything* with your accounts.


But too many people use the same userid/password for multiple sites, and a
security problem on one site can expose those userids/passwords.  This makes
it easy for a hacker to access one's banking account.

I use online banking all the time.  But I have a unique userid/password
combination on each of my accounts.  These are long, non-obvious, known only
to me and not stored on any computer.


That's important, too. Which means that the problem here is getting
used to manage more than a few userids and passwords, and most people
are intimidated by what it takes to get that experience.



It's not all that hard if you come up with a system.  For instance, take 
a phrase you know very well, i.e "To be, or not to be: that is the 
question".  Take the first character of each word (numeric homonyms 
become numbers), to get 2bon2btitq.  If the first word starts with a-m, 
capitalize the odd-numbered letters; otherwise capitalize the even 
numbered letters.  So you get 2BoN2BtItQ.


(You might not want to use a phrase quite that well known, but it is 
only an example).


Different phrases for different sites.  Even of someone gets one 
password, they won't be able to guess passwords on other sites.



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Re: Building computer

2013-10-03 Thread Lisi Reisz
On Thursday 03 October 2013 05:52:06 Stan Hoeppner wrote:
>  In my early 40s

A mere strippling!  And there was I pegging you as a sage*. ;-)

Lisi

* a teacher venerable for years, and of sound judgment (Wiktionary)

P.S. Sorry Stan - I did not mean to send to you personally.  I am 
trying to train myself not to click on reply for the list, but not 
being very successful.  Old dogs and new tricks? ;-(


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Re: Re (2): Multiplicity of accounts.

2013-10-03 Thread Joel Rees
On Thu, Oct 3, 2013 at 1:53 AM, Jerry Stuckle  wrote:
> On 10/2/2013 12:24 PM, peasth...@shaw.ca wrote:
>>
>> From:   Joel Rees 
>> Date:   Wed, 2 Oct 2013 15:30:26 +0900
>>>
>>> [...]
>
>>> And accessing your bank logged in as the same user that you use to
>>> surf random sites is one of the primary causes of leaked bank account
>>> numbers and passwords.
>>
>>
>> The banking information is stored in a cookie.  Subsequently a site other
>> than the bank is allowed to read the cookie?  A failure of the browser.
>> Correct?  Prior to studying this thoroughly, I might stick to personal
>> banking.
>>
>
> Not if your browser is working properly.  Cookies can only be sent to the
> domain which originated them (and, depending on the cookie options,
> subdomains of the main domain).

subdomains.

And too many places, bank sites included, outsource parts of their
sites. Particularly ad-related stuff.

I play it safe and limit logging in to my bank to a user that does
nothing but logging into that bank. Hey, it's my computer, I can add
users all I like.

And I try to avoid logging in to the bank, but the bank sometimes
requires me to log in to do certain things, now.

> But too many people use the same userid/password for multiple sites, and a
> security problem on one site can expose those userids/passwords.  This makes
> it easy for a hacker to access one's banking account.
>
> I use online banking all the time.  But I have a unique userid/password
> combination on each of my accounts.  These are long, non-obvious, known only
> to me and not stored on any computer.

That's important, too. Which means that the problem here is getting
used to manage more than a few userids and passwords, and most people
are intimidated by what it takes to get that experience.

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Re: texlive: eurosans.sty missing

2013-10-03 Thread Curt
On 2013-10-02, Pierre Frenkiel  wrote:
> I used the eurosans latex package since more than 10 years, and it suddenly
> disappered. I now get:
> ! LaTeX Error: File `eurosans.sty' not found.
>
> Of course, I could get a fix by downloading the file from CTAN,
> I'm curious to know:
>
> 1/ how it could suddenly disappear.
> 2/ on what Debian package it was, or if it was created after the install of
> some texlive package..

Nobody can know (at least I don't think so) how the file might have
"disappeared" (if indeed that is the case) as you give little pertinent
info.

Latex can't find it, but can you?

curty@einstein:~$ locate eurosans
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/fonts/eurofont/README.eurosans.gz
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/latex/eurosans
/usr/share/doc/texlive-doc/latex/eurosans/README.eurosans.gz
/usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended-doc/fonts/eurofont/README.eurosans.gz
/usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended-doc/latex/eurosans
/usr/share/doc/texlive-fonts-recommended-doc/latex/eurosans/README.eurosans.gz
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/eurosans
/usr/share/texmf-texlive/tex/latex/eurosans/eurosans.sty

curty@einstein:~$ apt-cache search eurosans
texlive-fonts-recommended - TeX Live: Recommended fonts


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Re: Getting Postfix to sort spam into different folders

2013-10-03 Thread Robin Kipp
Hi Stan,
many thanks for your explanation!
This is pretty much exactly what I want so will check the docs for specifics on 
how to set it all up.
Robin
Am 03.10.2013 um 05:26 schrieb Stan Hoeppner :

> On 10/2/2013 10:17 AM, Robin Kipp wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I've been running my own mail server for a while (Postfix as the MTA and 
>> Dovecot for retrieving mail via IMAP).
>> Yesterday, I added amavis-new for content filtering, and so far have 
>> implemented spam checking using spamassassin and virus filtering using 
>> clamav.
>> All this appears to be working well - if anyone has some time to spare, feel 
>> free to check the header of this message - if there are any things that 
>> could be improved, I certainly would appreciate any feedback! :-)
>> So, now that spamassassin is flagging junk mail, I really would like a way 
>> of having said junk sorted into a different folder for each user. I'm aware 
>> this can also be done on the MUA side, but on some end-user devices (such as 
>> smartphones), junkmail filtering is often not supported very unfortunately.
>> So, I was just wondering… Is there any way I could do this on the server 
>> side?
>> My main problem really is that I'm not sure where I'd best set this up - but 
>> I'm guessing I'd have to do it in Postfix, as I use the 'virtual' local 
>> delivery agent to drop incoming mail into the appropriate directories. Also, 
>> the mailboxes are stored in maildir format if that makes any difference…
>> If anyone has anything like this working or could point me in the right 
>> direction I would greatly appreciate that!
>> Many thanks :-)
>> Robin
> 
> Dovecot includes the sieve language for sorting.  Per user, you'd have a
> .dovecot.sieve file in the home directory, containing something like:
> 
> /home/stan/.dovecot.sieve
> 
> require "fileinto";
> 
> if false {}
> 
> elsif header :contains "X-Spam-Flag" "YES" {
>fileinto "Spam";
>stop;
> }
> ...
> 
> This will move the flagged messages into the user's IMAP folder named
> "Spam".
> 
> You must use Dovecot LDA or LMTP for delivery if you want to use sieve.
> The advantage of using sieve vs procmail, maildrop, etc, is that
> Dovecot LDA/LMTP index the messages during the delivery phase.  If you
> use procmail/maildrop then Dovecot doesn't index messages until you open
> the mailbox, which is slower.
> 
> You can also use Managesieve which allows users to create their own
> filter rules.  It is also possible to have a global sieve file for all
> users, for thing such as spam sorting, and individual user defined sieve
> rules simultaneously.
> 
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Re: Re: VLC freezes system

2013-10-03 Thread Anubhav
But the freeze happens only when I use vlc, to be more specific it
happens when I click on a video file, after watching two-three videos


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Re: Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-03 Thread recoverym4n
 Hi.

On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 09:31:42 +0200
Francesco Pietra  wrote:

> Hello:
> Did you use a recent version of the installer? What I would like to know -
> before reinstalling everything on my servers - is whether the option to set
> grub on both disks of raid 0 has now been introduced.

 Installing any OS on a RAID 0 (striping) is very strange thing to do -
considering that disk failure in a RAID 0 = everything on this RAID0
is lost.

Maybe you've meant RAID1 (mirroring)?

Reco


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Screen resolution [was: Re: Building computer]

2013-10-03 Thread Anthony Campbell
On 02 Oct 2013, Stan Hoeppner wrote:

[snip] 
> > No apology needed. You did in fact peg my age correctly; I will be 61 next
> > month. And I too have known people who run less than the native resolution 
> > to make the fonts bigger. When I get to that point, though, I will simply 
> > increase 
> > the font size so I don't get jaggies and blurry letters. Right now my eyes 
> > need 
> > the sharpness of the image, not a size increase. 
> 
[snip] 

Increasing the size of the term font isn't a solution for the very tiny menu
fonts you get in some applications, e.g. imagemagick. For this reason,
at least on my desktop with a CRT monitor, I use 1280x1024 instead of
1600x1200. There is no obvious degradation of quality, at least to my
worsening eyes. On my laptop this doesn't work well because you get
distortion at any resolution other than the native.

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Debian installer and raid0

2013-10-03 Thread Francesco Pietra
Hello:
Did you use a recent version of the installer? What I would like to know -
before reinstalling everything on my servers - is whether the option to set
grub on both disks of raid 0 has now been introduced.
Thanks
francesco pietra