Re: gpm dumping info to /var/log/messages
On Wednesday 08 January 2014 01:17 PM, Mike McClain wrote: Is there any way to stop gpm from dumping to /var/log/messages every time I copy/paste without stopping other deamons from writing info there too? I see no such provisions in the man pages. Thanks, Mike -- Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Hi Mike, You should look at the manpage and documentation of rsyslog.conf if you want to discard messages from gpm you could add a line in the RULES section which goes #this discards all messages from gpm gpm.* ~ HTH, Kailash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d397a5.5080...@gmail.com
Re: Daisy player applications that did not go out with the ark :-(
On Saturday 11 January 2014 11:58 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: I have two separate but related problems. 1. I can find no up to date daisy playing software that will run on Linux. Suggestions, please? Hi Lisi, I'm not clear on which use-cases you're looking at. Have you looked at the following? 1. Emerson Reader: http://code.google.com/p/emerson-reader/ 2. Daisy Book Reader: http://sourceforge.net/projects/dbr/ Sincerely, Kailash -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d38c09.8040...@gmail.com
Re: Question
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Jeff Bauer wrote: NEVER trust a post made by someone whose surname rhymes with "hemorrhoid." Strange you should mention that, since an alternate spelling of the name in question is "Murgatroid." Oh well. -- IMPORTANT: This email is intended for the use of the individual addressee(s) named above and may contain information that is confidential, privileged or unsuitable for overly sensitive persons with low self-esteem, no sense of humour or irrational metaphysical beliefs. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/Pine.LNX.4.64.1401121935180.6232@gebyyobl.ybpnyqbznva
Re: Question
On 01/12/2014 04:44 PM, Bob Bernstein wrote: On Sun, 12 Jan 2014, Cameron Murgatroyd wrote: Hi I've recently become a frequent user of debian and I have a question [...] I love the internet. Consider where this post took me: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murgatroyd Fabulous stuff. Simply fabulous. NEVER trust a post made by someone whose surname rhymes with "hemorrhoid." -- hangout: ##b0rked on irc.freenode.net diversion: http://alienjeff.net - visit The Fringe quote: "The foundation of authority is based upon the consent of the people." - Thomas Hooker -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d32eff.3050...@charter.net
Re: Install-time non-free issues
On 13/01/14 04:38, tty7 wrote: > Hello, I've attempted to install non-free firmware several times with > wheezy amd64. I've tried placing the *.deb* package Emphasis is mine. > on / and on /firmware/ of both an SD card and a USB stick. I've > extracted the files and placed the loose files it calls for by name > (rtl_nic/etc) in both / and /firmware on both the SD card and USB > stick. > > In short, I've followed with the documentation says to do, yet the > installer does not seem to "find" the files. Which documentation is that. > > I've switched to tty2 (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and activated it, and created > /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/usb and mounted both filesystems, and verified > that the firmware exists in both places on both devices. The > installer can't seem to "find" it even with them manually mounted. > > > Is there some other place the installer is looking? there appears to > be no way to specify a mountpoint or location to find these files. > > Anyone got a clue? I'm tapped out.. > > > Thanks! It reads like you are using not using the non-free-firmware version of the installer *and* you are trying to add the firmware-linux-free-*.deb to the installation process - if that's the case skip to the last two paragraphs. If you've already installed Debian *and* down-loaded the non-free firmware image but for some reason don't wish to use apt/aptitude:- # dpkg -i $pathTo\firmware-linux-free-*.deb (replace $pathTo with actual path to the package, you can leave the wildcard in the debian package name) If you've already installed Debian and you can use apt:- # apt-get install firmware-linux-free If you have *not* already installed Debian you need to use the files from either the *.tar.gz* or the *.zip* package. I'm not familiar with the process of trying to manually extract the drivers from the .deb package. Those packages are here:- http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ See 6.4.1. Preparing a medium:- https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/i386/ch06s04.html.en Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d3141e.7050...@gmail.com
Re: Question
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Re: Question
On 1/12/2014 1:25 PM, Cameron Murgatroyd wrote: > Hi I've recently become a frequent user of debian and I have a question if > I were to want to make a .deb package for a game hack and to do it I needed > to delete some files from the users file system before my files go in how > would I do it? The first thing you need to do is post exactly what you're trying to accomplish, in detail. Lots and lots of detail. -- Stan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d2fd05.6040...@hardwarefreak.com
Re: Question
On 01/12/2014 02:25 PM, Cameron Murgatroyd wrote: Hi I've recently become a frequent user of debian and I have a question if I were to want to make a .deb package for a game hack and to do it I needed to delete some files from the users file system before my files go in how would I do it? If I were looking at a program that required the removal of some files from my system, I would stop looking at that program! I'd bet that most other people would do likewise! --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d2f7b1.6060...@optonline.net
Re: Question
On Sun 12 Jan 2014 at 19:25:14 +, Cameron Murgatroyd wrote: > Hi I've recently become a frequent user of debian and I have a question if > I were to want to make a .deb package for a game hack and to do it I needed > to delete some files from the users file system before my files go in how > would I do it? I'm a little unsure what you mean by "the users file system". Do you mean the home directory? And what *exactly* is it you want to delete? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/12012014194530.9cd3faed4...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Question
Hi I've recently become a frequent user of debian and I have a question if I were to want to make a .deb package for a game hack and to do it I needed to delete some files from the users file system before my files go in how would I do it?
Re: Install-time non-free issues
On Sun 12 Jan 2014 at 12:38:21 -0500, tty7 wrote: > Anyone got a clue? I'm tapped out.. You appear to have done everything correctly but my brain is not in gear yet :) so, avoiding any debugging process, try this to get you going: After installing the base system switch to tty2 and mkdir /lib/firmware Then mount the device which holds the firmware files (the files themselves, not a .deb) and transfer them to /lib/firmware. Proceed with the installation. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140112184401.ga3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Install-time non-free issues
On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:38:21 -0500 tty7 wrote: Hello tty7, >Anyone got a clue? I'm tapped out.. You shouldn't need to d/l and unpack a .deb locally. Add non-free to the reos in your sources.list file, update the repo databases, and then search for, and install, the package(s) you require. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Where the grass is green and the girls are pretty Paradise City - Guns 'N' Roses signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Install-time non-free issues
Hello, I've attempted to install non-free firmware several times with wheezy amd64. I've tried placing the .deb package on / and on /firmware/ of both an SD card and a USB stick. I've extracted the files and placed the loose files it calls for by name (rtl_nic/etc) in both / and /firmware on both the SD card and USB stick. In short, I've followed with the documentation says to do, yet the installer does not seem to "find" the files. I've switched to tty2 (Ctrl-Alt-F2) and activated it, and created /mnt/sdcard and /mnt/usb and mounted both filesystems, and verified that the firmware exists in both places on both devices. The installer can't seem to "find" it even with them manually mounted. Is there some other place the installer is looking? there appears to be no way to specify a mountpoint or location to find these files. Anyone got a clue? I'm tapped out.. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/ecc021dc-2d78-47f0-992f-83170798a...@tty7.org
Re: PXE install, without internet?
> I suspect apt-cacher-ng is the best long-term solution for the OP or I'd > have suggested just adding the entire DVD repo. to the TFTP directory > used by PXE. Still I'll be trying both! Never bad to learn anything new! Thanks again! :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CA+Jf9AHwD=ar+vw5unqxv429+yctma8xkmxlbtwazmxb5xi...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Re: PXE install, without internet?
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Re: Intel soundcard does not work
Origineel bericht Hello, I have new computer but soundcard does not work with Debian/Squeeze. Maybe I need to tweak some configuration files or I need new driver? It is integrated on motherboard Intel soundcard. Can anybody give me an advice? Bellow are output from some command that I tought would be needed. BTW soudcard works under Windows. If anybody is wondering why I use Squeeze instead of something more recent it is because I do have complete set of DVD for Squeeze but do not have internet connection capable for online installation of OS or even easy acces to set of DVD for newer system. boza@spongia:~/tmp$ lspci -n 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:1c20 (rev 05) boza@spongia:~/tmp$ lspci -v 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 Memory at f7d0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel ] boza@spongia:~/tmp$ groups boza cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth scanner boza@spongia:~/tmp$ lsmod Module Size Used by parport_pc 18855 0 ppdev 5030 0 lp 7462 0 parport27682 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp binfmt_misc 6399 1 kvm_intel 38146 0 kvm 213960 1 kvm_intel fuse 50417 1 nls_utf81208 3 nls_cp437 5817 3 vfat7836 3 fat39990 1 vfat loop 11623 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek 235122 1 snd_hda_intel 20019 1 snd_hda_codec 53892 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 5220 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm_oss32415 0 snd_mixer_oss 12478 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm60151 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_midi4256 0 snd_rawmidi15323 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 4628 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq41281 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event button 4650 0 i2c_i8017750 0 i2c_core 15328 1 i2c_i801 snd_timer 15486 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 4493 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd45918 11 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 4566 2 snd snd_page_alloc 6217 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm processor 29871 2 video 17349 0 output 1692 1 video pcspkr 1699 0 evdev 7352 8 psmouse49777 0 serio_raw 3752 0 ext3 106326 3 jbd36861 1 ext3 mbcache 5050 1 ext3 sg 18632 0 usb_storage39513 1 sd_mod 29649 9 crc_t10dif 1276 1 sd_mod sr_mod 12250 0 cdrom 28631 1 sr_mod ata_generic 3047 0 fan 3346 0 ehci_hcd 31135 0 ata_piix 21124 6 r8169 29213 0 thermal11610 0 mii 3210 1 r8169 thermal_sys11942 4 processor,video,fan,thermal libata133120 2 ata_generic,ata_piix scsi_mod 121765 5 sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,sr_mod,libata usbcore 121762 3 usb_storage,ehci_hcd nls_base6377 5 nls_utf8,nls_cp437,vfat,fat,usbcore hi, the alsa kernel module hda-intel is loaded. did your machine/pr. load alsa-utils? if yes: try the konsole-command alsamixer and look if the output is muted. if so: put it on: put it on. \ reg., steef -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d29016.2030...@home.nl
Intel soundcard does not work
Hello, I have new computer but soundcard does not work with Debian/Squeeze. Maybe I need to tweak some configuration files or I need new driver? It is integrated on motherboard Intel soundcard. Can anybody give me an advice? Bellow are output from some command that I tought would be needed. BTW soudcard works under Windows. If anybody is wondering why I use Squeeze instead of something more recent it is because I do have complete set of DVD for Squeeze but do not have internet connection capable for online installation of OS or even easy acces to set of DVD for newer system. boza@spongia:~/tmp$ lspci -n 00:1b.0 0403: 8086:1c20 (rev 05) boza@spongia:~/tmp$ lspci -v 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation Cougar Point High Definition Audio Controller (rev 05) Subsystem: Giga-byte Technology Device a002 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 22 Memory at f7d0 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K] Capabilities: Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel ] boza@spongia:~/tmp$ groups boza cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev netdev bluetooth scanner boza@spongia:~/tmp$ lsmod Module Size Used by parport_pc 18855 0 ppdev 5030 0 lp 7462 0 parport27682 3 parport_pc,ppdev,lp binfmt_misc 6399 1 kvm_intel 38146 0 kvm 213960 1 kvm_intel fuse 50417 1 nls_utf81208 3 nls_cp437 5817 3 vfat7836 3 fat39990 1 vfat loop 11623 0 snd_hda_codec_realtek 235122 1 snd_hda_intel 20019 1 snd_hda_codec 53892 2 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel snd_hwdep 5220 1 snd_hda_codec snd_pcm_oss32415 0 snd_mixer_oss 12478 2 snd_pcm_oss snd_pcm60151 3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss snd_seq_midi4256 0 snd_rawmidi15323 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq_midi_event 4628 1 snd_seq_midi snd_seq41281 2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event button 4650 0 i2c_i8017750 0 i2c_core 15328 1 i2c_i801 snd_timer 15486 2 snd_pcm,snd_seq snd_seq_device 4493 3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq snd45918 11 snd_hda_codec_realtek,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device soundcore 4566 2 snd snd_page_alloc 6217 2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm processor 29871 2 video 17349 0 output 1692 1 video pcspkr 1699 0 evdev 7352 8 psmouse49777 0 serio_raw 3752 0 ext3 106326 3 jbd36861 1 ext3 mbcache 5050 1 ext3 sg 18632 0 usb_storage39513 1 sd_mod 29649 9 crc_t10dif 1276 1 sd_mod sr_mod 12250 0 cdrom 28631 1 sr_mod ata_generic 3047 0 fan 3346 0 ehci_hcd 31135 0 ata_piix 21124 6 r8169 29213 0 thermal11610 0 mii 3210 1 r8169 thermal_sys11942 4 processor,video,fan,thermal libata133120 2 ata_generic,ata_piix scsi_mod 121765 5 sg,usb_storage,sd_mod,sr_mod,libata usbcore 121762 3 usb_storage,ehci_hcd nls_base6377 5 nls_utf8,nls_cp437,vfat,fat,usbcore -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140112105431.GA2572@alfa
Re: PCI compliance
On 12/01/14 20:00, Veljko wrote: > On 2014-Jan-11 10:45, Scott Ferguson wrote: >> On 11/01/14 03:46, Veljko wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> Does anyone here operates servers that have to meet PCI standards? >> >> > >> I have little recent experience with CentOS/RedHat so I can't speculate >> on parallels. > > Well, it's the same, I guess. They too use old stable software patched to > answer to new vulnerabilities. I don't know the RedHat philosophy, but Debian will not hide vulnerabilities - even for a minute, they also tend to patch very fast. The main reasons Debian dominates the top end of the server usage (IMO). >> >> Start with client and company data, then the network and OS (plural), >> after that the firewall. You'll find that apache is the very last thing >> you need to worry about. > > I maintained for a while some website that accepted payments. There I had some > problems with older versions of Apache, PHP and openssl. Network scanning > company soon accepted my appeals but the fact that I had to track down all > those CVEs proves that there was something wrong with their process. But, to > be honest, I didn't filled SAQ, it was done before I took maintenance, so > that could be the source of the problem. Most likely even if the SAQ was properly done the system has changed. If there is no change control or it's not properly enforced (only change if the reason is compelling *and* it's been tested); or if security is something that relies upon people following rules rather than enforced by the system then you're probably dealing with a typical client. Not a position I'd envy being in. Sometimes the client needs to understand that the potential impact of a breach is of greater importance than the perceived risk. *cough*Kmart*cough* Take care -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52d263d9.6030...@gmail.com
Re: Installing Mahara from source on Debian SID.
Hi Selim,
"Selim T. Erdogan" writes:
> Csanyi Pal, 11.01.2014:
>>
>> 6.
>> Mahara Configuration
>>
>> cd /usr/share/mahara/htdocs/
>> sudo cp config-dist.php config.php
>> sudo nano config.php
>>
>>
>> $cfg = new stdClass();
>
> Here you have "$cfg = new stdClass();"
>
>>
>> $cfg->dbtype = 'postgres';
>> $cfg->dbhost = 'localhost';
>> $cfg->dbport = null;
>> $cfg->dbname = 'mahara';
>> $cfg->dbuser = 'mahara';
>> $cfg->dbpass = 'SecretPassword';
>>
>> $cfg->dbprefix = '';
>>
>> $cfg = new stdClass();
>
> I don't know about any of this software you're trying to set up... but
> is this second copy of "$cfg = new stdClass();" supposed to be here?
No, indeed, and I removed this second copy from here.
Still get the error as before.
Maybe the PostgreSQL version 9.2, that I have installed is not
appropriate for mahara, because I read in the
/usr/share/mahara/htdocs/init.php
the following lines ( from 137 to 142 ):
// Now we have a connection, verify the server is a new enough
version
$dbversion = $db->ServerInfo();
if (is_postgres()) {
$okversion = '8.3';
$dbfriendlyname = 'PostgreSQL';
}
So, my version of the installed PostgreSQL is 9.2, but for the init.php
it should be version 8.3?
No, I think not, because when I change the line
$okversion = '8.3';
to
$okversion >= '8.3';
and try to refresh the localhost/mahara site, I get the same error.
--
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Re: PCI compliance
On 2014-Jan-11 10:45, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 11/01/14 03:46, Veljko wrote: > > Hello, > > > > Does anyone here operates servers that have to meet PCI standards? > > > Level 4s (isolated payment solutions) > > This is possibly not the best list to ask on > > > Do you have > > any problems with Debian? > > No. > > > I know that Moneris Solutions and Trustkeeper are > > scanning for version numbers so if you're running some old Apache version > > for > > example, you need to track down every vulnerability (CVE) and to prove that > > particular CentOS/RedHat version is patched. > > That's what the ASV is supposed to do, if you do the SAQ first (as > PCISSC requires) the scan shouldn't result in surprises. > > I have no experience with either of those companies. I don't run > out-of-date un-patched software.Either Debian stable or, mostly, > old-stable (Squeeze). I also don't run out-of-date software. I was just curious if you had problems because you run old, but patched version, not the latest one. That answered to my question. > I have little recent experience with CentOS/RedHat so I can't speculate > on parallels. Well, it's the same, I guess. They too use old stable software patched to answer to new vulnerabilities. > > What is your experience with this? > > > That's a *very* broad subject. > > Speak to the bank before choosing your ASV and payment solution. > > Start with client and company data, then the network and OS (plural), > after that the firewall. You'll find that apache is the very last thing > you need to worry about. I maintained for a while some website that accepted payments. There I had some problems with older versions of Apache, PHP and openssl. Network scanning company soon accepted my appeals but the fact that I had to track down all those CVEs proves that there was something wrong with their process. But, to be honest, I didn't filled SAQ, it was done before I took maintenance, so that could be the source of the problem. > Anything above a 4 and you should consider using specialists or > outsourcing components (firewall, backups, and *especially*, mail) - > look at Debian.org consultants list. Try CERT people if you can't find > an experienced debian consultant. Compliance can be costly and time > consuming so if you only want a Level 4 using a provider instead might > be worthwhile unless you control (or outsource) *every* part of the > chain *and* the client/business makes it profitable. > > Subscribe to the security-announce mailing list:- > http://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/ > > There's also a feed:- > http://www.debian.org/security/dsa > > (DSA==Debian Security Announcement, compatible with CVEs.) > > Product and advice liability insurance is a good idea if you're > supplying the service to a client. > > If you don't control the whole data chain and the client thinks a CRM is > the end-all-and-be-all run like hell. Assessment tends to rank > external access as the greatest risk, in reality it's generally internal. > > Kind regards and good luck Thanks very much for your thoughts and advices, much appreciated. Regards, Veljko -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140112090012.ga5...@angelina.example.com
