Re: fastest linux distro
On Fri, 1/24/14, Chris Bannister wrote: Subject: Re: fastest linux distro To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:34 PM On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 09:30:55PM -0800, Go Linux wrote: > > On Fri, 1/24/14, Chris > Bannister wrote: > > Subject: Re: fastest linux distro To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:21 PM > > > I wouldn't be so quick to recommend the deb-multimedia third party > repository considering the problems it can cause to your system. > > -- > > Indeed! dmo broke my wheezy install. Had to nuke everything in dmo > but the key and start over using other options (except for one package > not available elsewhere). That wouldn't be libdvdcss2, by any chance, would it? :) -- Nope. It was avidemux that I needed from dmo. At some point I might need libdvdcss2 but right now my media work-flow is working without it. It took over a year to get the same setup that worked perfectly on squeeze up and running on wheezy. But let's not get too OT. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1390631170.41725.yahoomailba...@web163403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: Viber on Debian
On 1/25/14, Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Has anyone successfully installed Viber opn Debian? What's viber? Is it libre? Or is it proprietary? -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSk53KyLZkg-=yrmfrkjzz7npdsqnxaouwwu1e98eo...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fastest linux distro
On 1/25/14, tom arnall wrote: > i'm running icewm btw. i can't imagine using ubuntu's bloatware > manager, I'm a bit of a command line junkie actually ... I have alii (aliases?) for aks = apt-cache search and akw = apt-cache show, since I use them so often, and agi for apt-get install. There was a while some years back, that I just ran plain X, with a single xterm, and can't remember which window manager, but that was it - the X gray hatchet background, a terminal and a window manager. >From there ... the possibilities :) Of course I still run most of my apps from the command line, even gui apps. It's just quicker for most things. There are only a few file management type tasks and some graphics development and audio stuff, where it's either more efficient for my limited use patterns, or not possible that I'm aware from the command line. I also like a graphical web browser. > altho' i do use gnome-terminal, initially (10 years ago) Heathen!!! 16 lashes and a hessian bed for a week! > because i didn't know any better, You ignorant SOD! > now because i don't have the time to relearn with xterm. I used gnome-terminal in the Ubuntu 8.04 days (perhaps the best/most compatible version of Ubuntu ever), and eventually found a performance limitation which effected me significantly, and xterm did not have the problem (or perhaps, had already solved that problem), so I went back to xterm, and have never looked back. Now I use the uxterm wrapper but it's still just plain ol xterm. > how does icewm compare to xfce and lxde? Dunno, never used it, but if you are running just the minimum apps you want - perhaps a task bar app, and a browser or whatever, then that is going to be less resources that running all the XFCE4 or LXDE "desktop environment" daemons (which, by the way, are still a much lighter weight than GNOME or KDE). I hear rumours that with a modern PeeCee with fast graphics card, running a compositing "3D" window manager can be higher performance than our old window managers, since the compositing and window moving etc all occurs on the card, not through the CPU - so that could actually be a "lighter weight" option for a modern pc... If you actually wanted to transition to xterm, and listed a clear and concise set of problems you experience trying to use it, I and others would be happy. Sorry, I mean, happy to provide solutions :) Good luck, Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnss5hzd647evg_mosc-jt40sqnmgelzx+nootvrhph5...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fastest linux distro
On 1/25/14, Chris Bannister wrote: > to my ISP being regarded as legit. :(> Oh wow! You have your own ISP ... no wonder you are so knowledgeable :) > On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 03:17:29PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> Oh, and add the Debian multimedia repository to your package sources >> (gives you MMX instructions and other goodies and plugins all compiled >> into nice Debian packages for you)! > > I wouldn't be so quick to recommend the deb-multimedia third party > repository considering the problems it can cause to your system. Thanks, good to know. I was actually unaware of the breakage possibilities there... -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSSPbgp5dA1Kbon+s=4Odo4KiVjKRi_VA6gU40=4osp...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fastest linux distro
On Fri, Jan 24, 2014 at 09:30:55PM -0800, Go Linux wrote: > > On Fri, 1/24/14, Chris > Bannister wrote: > > Subject: Re: fastest linux distro To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:21 PM > > > I wouldn't be so quick to recommend the deb-multimedia third party > repository considering the problems it can cause to your system. > > -- > > Indeed! dmo broke my wheezy install. Had to nuke everything in dmo > but the key and start over using other options (except for one package > not available elsewhere). That wouldn't be libdvdcss2, by any chance, would it? :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140125053447.GA22263@tal
Re: fastest linux distro
On Fri, 1/24/14, Chris Bannister wrote: Subject: Re: fastest linux distro To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, January 24, 2014, 11:21 PM I wouldn't be so quick to recommend the deb-multimedia third party repository considering the problems it can cause to your system. -- Indeed! dmo broke my wheezy install. Had to nuke everything in dmo but the key and start over using other options (except for one package not available elsewhere). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1390627855.47669.yahoomailba...@web163403.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: fastest linux distro
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 03:17:29PM +1100, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > Oh, and add the Debian multimedia repository to your package sources > (gives you MMX instructions and other goodies and plugins all compiled > into nice Debian packages for you)! I wouldn't be so quick to recommend the deb-multimedia third party repository considering the problems it can cause to your system. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140125052128.GA22030@tal
fastest linux distro
Zenaan, thanks for the rundown. very helpful. i'm running icewm btw. i can't imagine using ubuntu's bloatware manager, altho' i do use gnome-terminal, initially (10 years ago) because i didn't know any better, now because i don't have the time to relearn with xterm. how does icewm compare to xfce and lxde? Tom -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cafkyrxoyotujzx-jkp1brdokmnno9dfsojsxxzxbreu88h_...@mail.gmail.com
Re: fastest linux distro
On 01/24/2014 09:17 PM, tom arnall wrote: I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes. System: Dell latitude D630 dual core 2g memory most used applications: icewm gnome-terminal vim perl chrome browser transmission Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it. Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Altho I am not familiar with the Dell D630, I have a Dell laptop, probably 7 or so years old, in which Dell swears you can only have 2GB ram. I discovered you can physically put 4GB in it, and I did so. This model can only access a little over 3GB, but I can tell you that it made a very noticeable difference in the performance of Windows 7 Pro. I didn't notice any difference in my Linux performance, but it never seemed slow in the first place. Running PCLinuxOs-KDE-32-bit. If you're lucky, your machine may have the capability of running a PAE kernel, and then you could access a full 4GB. Do a little homework on the model--outside of Dell--and I bet you'll find you can put more memory in it. --doug -- Blessed are the peacemakers...for they shall be shot at from both sides. --A. M. Greeley -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e33da8.60...@optonline.net
Re: fastest linux distro
On 1/25/14, tom arnall wrote: > I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes. > > System: > Dell latitude D630 > dual core > 2g memory > > most used applications: > icewm > gnome-terminal > vim > perl > chrome browser > transmission > > Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it. > Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. You probably won't get any reponses, so I'll put in at least one, as I recommend as follows: For convenience (package/application installation), choose Debian - largest selection of software "should you ever need something". For stable (sort of but not really like Ubuntu), go with Debian Wheezy (also called Debian stable). For more cutting edge (sort of but not really like Fedora), go with Debian Sid (also called Debian unstable, but it's pretty stable by most standards, all things considered, so an excellent choice). Run the latest -rt linux kernel (from Debian), for sort of low latency - the timer tick is 4 ms, should be 1ms for best pro audio, so if you want the latest cutting edge: download and build your own custom Linux kernel. (Then you're in Gentoo land sort of but not really). Oh, and add the Debian multimedia repository to your package sources (gives you MMX instructions and other goodies and plugins all compiled into nice Debian packages for you)! Finally, choose a lightweight desktop, such as XFCE (quite popular around here), or LXDE (still a good light weight choice, but I believe they're moving to QT, so there might not be a lot of advancement for the next year). Welcome to Debian if you choose Debian (good choice since you're coming from Ubuntu). Good luck, Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSQ-5GDZCq1tMmSLbPOqwksumk=f_ylfqnuv-vroyhe...@mail.gmail.com
Is your osspd working?
Hi, Any of you are still using /dev/dsp as I do? Is your /dev/dsp (osspd) still working? OSS Proxy Daemon is a Linux userland OSS sound device (/dev/[a]dsp and /dev/mixer) implementation using CUSE. Currently it supports forwarding OSS sound streams to PulseAudio and ALSA. I'm using Ubuntu 13.10, and I know you will say it's a Ubuntu problem, and I agree (because I also have Ubuntu 13.04 on this very same machine and it works fine). Just want to know if your osspd is still working fine. Here is how I tested: $ echo 0z0z > /dev/dsp bash: /dev/dsp: Input/output error Restarting osspd won't work: $ sudo service osspd restart * Restarting OSS Proxy Daemon osspd [ OK ] Rebooting my machine won't work either. My *PaulsAudio works fine*. Thanks -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/lbvd7d$nk6$1...@ger.gmane.org
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
On 1/25/14, David wrote: > Sorry for replying to myself again with further thoughts ... So you should be! My god! Another Debian user trying to be helpful ... what has the world come to!! Next we'll be offering further assistance to those who get stuck... > Another option to consider is to partition your hard drive and copy > all the DVD/iso contents there, and then tell the installer to read > the files from there while it is installing to a different partition > on the same hard drive. I agree that's a better option to the USB stick, if the OP is only working on one computer, especially for an older PC. If he wants his offline/local package pool accessible to more than one PC, then some sort of external USB type option, or a network option, would work. Which reminds me: Richard, if you have a 'primary' PC which is your workstation, with 2G or ram or more, you might consider running virtualbox for your test installs, and that way you can run multiple virtualbox instances and have fun learning about different networking technologies too (without extra boxen of course) - eg dhcpd, httpd, etc. > Why am I offering these suggestions? Because from my own experience > doing the same thing, anything you can do to avoid using dvd media or > flash drives during the actual install is going to be a huge bonus for > you, because installing off slow media is *very* slow comparing to > installing of fast local media such as another partition on your hard > drive or on another local machine. > It can can reduce install time from many hours to minutes. Once you > have done an install off fast media, you will see! True. Another reason that I suggested that Richard just do "minimal" install, and reboot and use his local package repo - putting that repo on a partition on the test PC HDD is definitely a faster and more pleasant experience to a USB repo. But USB is _much_ better than optical media. > This applies especially if your install process has interactive > questions or prompts, because you don't have to spend very long > periods of time wondering when they are going to appear. That becomes > very tedious if you have to repeat the exercise more than once. > > The more times you are intending to run a trial install (and it's my > impression that is your intention), the more this advice is relevant! True. Ideally for Richard I think would be a fast workstation with virtualbox, a minimal install CD ISO image attached to the virtualbox, and a local httpd server serving up a local debian package repo to the test VMs. That's what I would do, and others here too I'm sure. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsq1bx_eeblzg-gdqgfkz1ou+f2hutaycov-b1vtnae...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
On 1/24/14, Richard Owlett wrote: > Having read http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loop_device, I suspect > using a loop device will alleviate some of my problems. Let's make sure we're not in XY problem territory. > I'm doing a series of installs to find an optimum configuration > for my personal needs. OK, this is important. Great goal by the way! :) > As I DO NOT have high speed internet available I have purchased a > set of Squeeze DVD's. Great. Wheezy might have been better, but squeeze may be better if your hardware is older; may be, may be not; the Linux kernel has pretty stellar backward compatibility, at least within a few generations. > My impression is that I should be able to copy the set of DVD's > to a flash drive and access as loop device to save physically > handling DVD's when using apt-get etc. Here's where the XY problem may be coming in. Yes you can create an image easily of a DVD or CD, with the following being just one of many ways to achieve that: sudo readom dev=/dev/scd0 f=my-image.iso BUT, if you want to experiement with different desktops, settings, kernels etc, in the Debian world, then here's what I suggest: First key point: I sent a few emails to your earlier threads, the primary one of interest is about how to create a local repository of Debian packages. Your USB stick might as well contain a local archive of the packages on your DVDs, no point going through the rigmarole of having to mount each ISO image each time you plug in the stick (although admittedly you _could_ script that to automate it). The second key point is that you will most likely _still use_ your first DVD, for installation purposes, even to do a minimal install; and a Minimal Install, using "Advanced" installation option from the DVD, is definitely what you want! :) because thereafter, you install just those packages you want to learn about. Et voi la! The magic of an awesome and essentially unlimited learning curve of inspiring free/libre software. Note: Your process is really quite similar to my own process many years ago. I did even learn (briefly) (at one point many years ago), how to get the grug (or perhaps lilo back then) to boot up a CD/DVD image sitting somewhere on the HDD. I never really used that though, except you could use it to install into a _secondary/learning_ partition, whilst still having a "current stable" partition, but since you have a dedicated PC for your journeys here, this is not necessary for you at all. Here is a link to my earlier email on this list. Again, I strongly suggest you create a local package pool (on your USB stick) using those instructions, and then add that (using a "deb file:///..." type line) in your /etc/apt/sources.list file, each time you do a new installation for some new tests: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2013/11/msg00374.html As you can see from that link, your follow up message showed that this procedure worked for you. Good luck, and report back if you get stuck, Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caosgnsszr_ewp4tgk-uwrwnn6jfkroaw-jnytkygr5moaej...@mail.gmail.com
fastest linux distro
I am looking for the fastest Linux distro for the following purposes. System: Dell latitude D630 dual core 2g memory most used applications: icewm gnome-terminal vim perl chrome browser transmission Currently I am running ubuntu 12.04. I am unhappy with the speed of it. Any info/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/cafkyrxreqf_puf46kx8mwnzpnucywszm2bzs5bn6aptp_os...@mail.gmail.com
Viber on Debian
Hi all, Has anyone successfully installed Viber opn Debian? Completely lost man -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e306d1.1010...@gmail.com
Re: gambas3 does not work in Sid
On Sat, Jan 25, 2014 at 8:15 AM, sp113438 wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:20:30 + > Brian wrote: > >> On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 20:58:40 +0100, sp113438 wrote: >> >> > I get this: >> > >> > $ gambas3 >> > >> > ** Oops! Internal error! ** >> > ** Cannot find interface of library 'gb.geom' >> > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.geom': cannot find component >> > ** Program aborting. Sorry! :-( >> > ** Please send a bug report at gam...@users.sourceforge.net >> > >> > I sent the bugreport and the answer was: >> >> There is no such answer in the Debian reord, If your question was sent >> somewhere else then you should really be dealing with them. >> >> > I sent the bugreport at gam...@users.sourceforge.net In other words, you sent the bugreport to the gambas development project hosted on sourceforge.net. They seem to think the problem is with the Debian repositories. (We would prefer to think in terms of something like out-of-date patches.) Ideally, the Debian package maintainer would be a member of their project, but that is apparently not the case. We might wish that the gambas project would directly contact the Debian package maintainer, but they seem to be busy. (The gambas project has always struck me as being a bit under-manned. If I didn't have too many projects of my own, it's one of the projects I'd be wanting to lend a hand to.) So, what you might want to do is send your bug report, or a link to it, to the Debian package maintainer, who you should be able to find by looking up the package. (A link to this thread in the mail archives might also be useful.) Debian packages are here: http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages But looking up "gambas debian package maintainer" on google also brought up a bit of the information you want. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ioumabrsnnxgfaniryhv42pgz4w4_uheukdxca5pge...@mail.gmail.com
Re: gambas3 does not work in Sid
On Sat 25 Jan 2014 at 00:15:48 +0100, sp113438 wrote: > On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:20:30 + > Brian wrote: > > > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 20:58:40 +0100, sp113438 wrote: > > > > > I get this: > > > > > > $ gambas3 > > > > > > ** Oops! Internal error! ** > > > ** Cannot find interface of library 'gb.geom' > > > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.geom': cannot find component > > > ** Program aborting. Sorry! :-( > > > ** Please send a bug report at gam...@users.sourceforge.net > > > > > > I sent the bugreport and the answer was: > > > > There is no such answer in the Debian reord, If your question was sent > > somewhere else then you should really be dealing with them. > > > > > I sent the bugreport at gam...@users.sourceforge.net My response was curt and out of line. I allowed it to be dictated by the lack of information in the original mail and did not offer any help. Apologies. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140124232832.gf3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: gambas3 does not work in Sid
On Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:20:30 + Brian wrote: > On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 20:58:40 +0100, sp113438 wrote: > > > I get this: > > > > $ gambas3 > > > > ** Oops! Internal error! ** > > ** Cannot find interface of library 'gb.geom' > > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.geom': cannot find component > > ** Program aborting. Sorry! :-( > > ** Please send a bug report at gam...@users.sourceforge.net > > > > I sent the bugreport and the answer was: > > There is no such answer in the Debian reord, If your question was sent > somewhere else then you should really be dealing with them. > > I sent the bugreport at gam...@users.sourceforge.net -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140125001548.5c3785ca@fx4100
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
Sorry for replying to myself again with further thoughts ... Another option to consider is to partition your hard drive and copy all the DVD/iso contents there, and then tell the installer to read the files from there while it is installing to a different partition on the same hard drive. Why am I offering these suggestions? Because from my own experience doing the same thing, anything you can do to avoid using dvd media or flash drives during the actual install is going to be a huge bonus for you, because installing off slow media is *very* slow comparing to installing of fast local media such as another partition on your hard drive or on another local machine. It can can reduce install time from many hours to minutes. Once you have done an install off fast media, you will see! This applies especially if your install process has interactive questions or prompts, because you don't have to spend very long periods of time wondering when they are going to appear. That becomes very tedious if you have to repeat the exercise more than once. The more times you are intending to run a trial install (and it's my impression that is your intention), the more this advice is relevant! Best of luck! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=o7FcHU0s3uoBjo5oEti=6wbHEX_AYo=fTkicfu5xw=v...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
On 25 January 2014 01:00, Richard Owlett wrote: > David wrote: >> >> I forgot to mention that an alternative approach could be to serve the >> dvd or mounted iso file contents from another machine on your LAN >> rather than from a flash drive. > > No LAN exists. Just in case I wasn't clear, "your LAN" can be as simple as one other computer (such as an old tired notebook bought secondhand) connected by one ethernet cable. This can be a very handy thing to have. Especially in your situation. Trust me I spent years with a crippled dialup connection (effectively offline and unable to download isos) fooling around with CDs like you are doing. You will find that installing a new machine is much easier if you have another play machine running already that you can serve files from, once you figure out how to do it. It is much faster and much more convenient that trying to do everything required for a custom install off one flash drive. Especially if you are repeating the same exercise many times with slight variations. It is handy for backups. It is also closer to what the professionals do, so any questions you have are far more likely to get answers from a larger pool of people rather than ex fringe dwellers like me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAMPXz=q5h01jwx8mzubrfpm9308hcmvs10efadw8hmfk3g9...@mail.gmail.com
Re: gambas3 does not work in Sid
On 2014-01-24, sp113438 wrote: > Hi, > > I get this: > > $ gambas3 > > ** Oops! Internal error! ** > ** Cannot find interface of library 'gb.geom' > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.geom': cannot find component > ** Program aborting. Sorry! :-( > ** Please send a bug report at gam...@users.sourceforge.net > > I sent the bugreport and the answer was: > > Debian sid packages are corrupted as far as I know (I'm not a Debian > user). Please ask on the mailing-list where you can find correct > packages. > > > Hope someone did find out. > > Thanks! > > Ran into this problem yesterday myself. I solved it by downloading the gambas3-runtime-3.5.2-1-.pkg.tar.xz file from: https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/i686/gambas3-runtime/ if architecture is i686, or https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/gambas3-runtime/ if architecture is x86_64. extracted the contents of the package and copied the below files located along path in extract directory location, /usr/lib/gambas3/gb.geom.la /usr/lib/gambas3/gb.geom.so.0.0.0 /usr/lib/gambas3/gb.geom.so.0 /usr/lib/gambas3/gb.geom.so to the /usr/lib/gambas3 sub-directory on my system and the problem was solved. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/bkg14hfa8h...@mid.individual.net
Re: gambas3 does not work in Sid
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 20:58:40 +0100, sp113438 wrote: > I get this: > > $ gambas3 > > ** Oops! Internal error! ** > ** Cannot find interface of library 'gb.geom' > ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.geom': cannot find component > ** Program aborting. Sorry! :-( > ** Please send a bug report at gam...@users.sourceforge.net > > I sent the bugreport and the answer was: There is no such answer in the Debian reord, If your question was sent somewhere else then you should really be dealing with them. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/24012014201412.790f404f4...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
gambas3 does not work in Sid
Hi, I get this: $ gambas3 ** Oops! Internal error! ** ** Cannot find interface of library 'gb.geom' ERROR: #27: Cannot load component 'gb.geom': cannot find component ** Program aborting. Sorry! :-( ** Please send a bug report at gam...@users.sourceforge.net I sent the bugreport and the answer was: Debian sid packages are corrupted as far as I know (I'm not a Debian user). Please ask on the mailing-list where you can find correct packages. Hope someone did find out. Thanks! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140124205840.7d16bdcc@fx4100
Problem with vmware-install.pl
I have installed Debiat Testing in VMware Player on 64 bit Win 7 Laptop. All went well until I ran vmware-install.pl. Unfortunately I got an error message during the execution of the installer: Using 2.6.x kernel build system. make: Entering directory `/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only' /usr/bin/make -C /lib/modules/3.12-1-amd64/build/include/.. SUBDIRS=$PWD SRCROOT=$PWD/. \ MODULEBUILDDIR= modules make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.12-1-amd64' CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/backdoor.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/backdoorGcc64.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/bdhandler.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/cpName.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLite.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/cpNameLinux.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/dentry.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/dir.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.o CC [M] /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c: In function ‘HgfsOpen’: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:659:27: error: incompatible type for argument 3 of ‘HgfsSetUidGid’ current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected ‘uid_t’ but argument is of type ‘kuid_t’ void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:659:27: error: incompatible type for argument 4 of ‘HgfsSetUidGid’ current_fsuid(), current_fsgid()); ^ In file included from /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.c:46:0: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/fsutil.h:92:6: note: expected ‘gid_t’ but argument is of type ‘kgid_t’ void HgfsSetUidGid(struct inode *parent, ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/file.o] Error 1 make[4]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c: In function ‘HgfsInitSuperInfo’: /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:234:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘uid_t’ from type ‘kuid_t’ si->uid = current_uid(); ^ /tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.c:240:15: error: incompatible types when assigning to type ‘gid_t’ from type ‘kgid_t’ si->gid = current_gid(); ^ make[4]: *** [/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only/filesystem.o] Error 1 make[3]: *** [_module_/tmp/modconfig-b2vEG8/vmhgfs-only] Error 2 make[2]: *** [sub-make] Error 2 make[1]: *** [all] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-headers-3.12-1-amd64' make: *** [vmhgfs.ko] Error 2 I installed v-7.3.0 on the same Laptop without encountering this error. Any help will be much appreciated. Thanks in advance. -- Stephen P. Molnar, Ph.D.Life is a fuzzy Set Foundation for ChemistryStochastic and multivariate www.FoundationForChemistry.com (613)312-7528(c) Skype: smolnar1 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e2b8c7.1070...@sbcglobal.net
Re: Confused about dist-upgrade
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Robin wrote: > Were those users using Debian stable? I use Sid so I usually > dist-upgrade as long it isn't going obviously affect my system, i.e > removing applications I want to keep. > My process on sid is apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade I then check dist-upgrade to make sure nothing critical is being uninstalled. If it is, I abandon that step. The reason I end up doing it this way is that a lot of things like the kernel only seem to be upgraded during the dist-upgrade. --b
Re: Confused about dist-upgrade
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 12:52:05 -0500, Tom H wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > >> > >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of > >> "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running > >> > >> # apt-get update > >> # apt-get dist-upgrade > >> > >> That as far as memory serves -- which is getting shakier and shakier > >> with the advance of years :-( -- is what has worked in the past. > > > > The recommended way is > > > >apt-get update > >upgrade kernel > >reboot > >upgrade packages associated with any critical services > >apt-get dist-upgrade > > >From memory, this isn't the recommended way for upgrades to Lenny, > Squeeze, or Wheezy. *I* wasn't working from memory when responding to "...to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach...". >From memory, an upgrade to Lenny involved having to ensure udev was upgraded first. Or maybe that was the upgrade to Etch. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140124180623.ge3...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Confused about dist-upgrade
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 6:47 PM, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: >> >> At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach >> would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of >> "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running >> >> # apt-get update >> # apt-get dist-upgrade >> >> That as far as memory serves -- which is getting shakier and shakier >> with the advance of years :-( -- is what has worked in the past. > > The recommended way is > >apt-get update >upgrade kernel >reboot >upgrade packages associated with any critical services >apt-get dist-upgrade >From memory, this isn't the recommended way for upgrades to Lenny, Squeeze, or Wheezy. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=syusdi9old9ur1nrt_am6kjeamu8udgl7y7gtsnf8h...@mail.gmail.com
Re: apt conf
On Wed, Jan 22, 2014 at 10:54 PM, james gray wrote: > > #apt.conf > > the quandary: How to express Intel 64 bit processor for the Architecture and > Architectures plural for the apt.conf file in Debian software speak. > > doing www-network search is just as dizzy. > > Architecture > > Architectures > > places i traveled to. > > /usr/share/doc/apt/examples/configure-index.gz > > A portion of the example from file string above > > > > the machine i am engaged with = Intel 64 bit. > > Ivy Bridge i3-3110M 2.4 GHz > > from z reason in berkeley. good machine. > > #dpkg --print architecture > amd64 > > #lscpu > x86_64 I don't really understand what you're trying to do. I assume that you'd like to set the default architecture for dpkg/apt. You can find out which architecture is the default one that's been set up and which additional architectures have been set up with with "dpkg --print-architecture" and "dpkg --print-foreign-architectures" (or "apt-config dump | grep Architecture"). You can remove i386 (for example) with "dpkg --remove-architecture i386". I've never done so, but you can also use "apt.conf" to set these architectures with 'APT::Architecture "amd64";' and 'APT::Architectures "";'. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=sxjseaxyhoqd54ocopcss6fi1ljv41p5r68xyoafyd...@mail.gmail.com
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade on shutdown ?
On 1/24/14, Joel Rees wrote: > On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: >> apt-get upgrade seems to have less "reboot requiring" updates. >> >> There ought be a way to schedule a dist-upgrade, to occur the next >> time I shutdown my computer - not on hibernate/suspend or even logout >> (I work on cmd line here and there). >> >> Doing a dist-upgrade right when I'm shutting the machine down, is >> usually the most convenient time for me (before bedtime or whatever), > A thought, to reduce the impact, I would tend to want to let it > download n the background if I were going to go with this. Then the Ubuntu had some GUI option thing to auto-download (and also to auto-install, which I never enabled) updates. > only thing that would be holding you up on shutdown would be the > install part. Definitely the way to go. > I think I'd also like it to query me before it started the install, so > I have a chance to hold the install off when I need to reboot it quick > or something. Totally agree. > Not telling you what to do with your computer, of course, just > thinking out loud. O. M. G. Yu tellin' me how to shut the fine PC down yo?!? Yeah ah got sumthin' ta say ... that one over there ... he tellin' me what to do yo! ok ok ... that's enough now ... OK, we'll be right back after this break. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSRp_5OkkhMX3vMJuaG5nbF1gbwy=px9wqf4xsopbsy...@mail.gmail.com
Re: ssh login problem from one particular client
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 09:20:09PM -0200, André Nunes Batista wrote: > On Thu, 2014-01-23 at 14:07 -0600, Craig L. wrote: > > > > When I tried to reconnect, it took almost 60 seconds for the password > > prompt to > > show up. Ever since then this problem occurs from my machine to either of > > the > > VMs. I can ssh into the host server and from there ssh into either VM, and > > I get > > a password prompt immediately. Today I fired up a VM on my local machine, > > created the tunnel through the server to one of the remote VMs, and tried to > > ssh in. The password prompt appeared immediately. > > > > In all cases, once I log in everything responds immediately as expected. It > > is > > just the login prompt that is a problem. The remote machines all have > > UseDNS = no set, and everything has worked fine for several months until > > this > > problem yesterday. > > > > nmap -sS -P0 -v --traceroute -sV -R -p$PORTNUM $server_ip > > is what I'd do first. Try this same command from a couple of different > networks and see if there is some kind of unusual machine in your way. > Maybe change the key + machine used in the reverse connection and test > to see if problem persists? Hi Andre, and thanks for the suggestion. As far as I can tell, there is nothing abnormal and this[1] shows a single device between me and the server, possibly the switch in the closet down the hall? I know there is a switch in the server room as well so there should be at least two devices showing up between here and there, unless one has been removed (highly unlikely). I can get that information if need be. I haven't engaged our network team since this is a particular problem involving a single protocol on a single box). I also wouldn't suspect something unusual in the network since the VM on my desktop has no problems, just the desktop itself. FWIW, the network traffic to and from my desktop has been dropping out like crazy today, but my local VM doesn't seem to be experiencing any issues. I am composing this on the remote VM through a connection from the local VM with no problems. This is really strange because any physical problems would obviously affect the local VM just as much as the machine it is running on. > > -- > André N. Batista > GNUPG/PGP KEY: 6722CF80 > [1] (names changed to protect privacy) sudo nmap -sS -P0 -v --traceroute -sV -R -p22 server.example.com Starting Nmap 6.00 ( http://nmap.org ) at 2014-01-24 07:55 CST NSE: Loaded 17 scripts for scanning. Initiating SYN Stealth Scan at 07:55 Scanning server.example.com (172.22.10.206) [1 port] Discovered open port 22/tcp on 172.22.10.206 Completed SYN Stealth Scan at 07:55, 0.10s elapsed (1 total ports) Initiating Service scan at 07:55 Scanning 1 service on server.example.com (172.22.10.206) Completed Service scan at 07:55, 0.01s elapsed (1 service on 1 host) Initiating Traceroute at 07:55 Completed Traceroute at 07:55, 0.02s elapsed Initiating Parallel DNS resolution of 2 hosts. at 07:55 Completed Parallel DNS resolution of 2 hosts. at 07:55, 0.00s elapsed NSE: Script scanning 172.22.10.206. Nmap scan report for server.example.com (172.22.10.206) Host is up (0.00045s latency). PORT STATE SERVICE VERSION 22/tcp open ssh OpenSSH 5.3 (protocol 2.0) TRACEROUTE (using port 22/tcp) HOP RTT ADDRESS 1 0.36 ms tez-r-gw.fw.example.com (10.2.16.1) 2 0.49 ms server.example.com (172.22.10.206) Read data files from: /usr/bin/../share/nmap Service detection performed. Please report any incorrect results at http://nmap.org/submit/ . Nmap done: 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.40 seconds Raw packets sent: 11 (484B) | Rcvd: 11 (496B) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140124143058.ga10...@prod1.getsouthern.com
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Vi, 24 ian 14, 11:50:25, David wrote: So where you have several dvd iso files, then ordinarily you would need several separate loop mounts. Unless you create a filesystem in one huge file, copy all the iso's into it, and then loop mount that huge file. That sounds like a very ugly idea to me, but I suppose it's possible if preseed requires it for some reason. It would be smarter to create one custom image file based on DVD #1 plus any extra you need and mount just that. Try it first with just an image of DVD#1 before anything more complex. There are also Blu-ray images. If my understanding is correct the OP already has the full DVD set so using jigdo to create the BD image using the DVDs should be simple and require only minimal network access. I do have the full set. But I don't understand what using jigdo would accomplish. Kind regards, Andrei -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e27357.2090...@cloud85.net
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
David wrote: I forgot to mention that an alternative approach could be to serve the dvd or mounted iso file contents from another machine on your LAN rather than from a flash drive. No LAN exists. In answer to related questions, others have unsuccessfully suggested virtual machines. Installers usually have some way to do this but I have forgotten the specifics (maybe I even did that on Fedora not Debian, I forget). You can research it. You might need a http server (like lighttpd) if that's the only protocol the installer understands, loop mount the iso file (faster than serving from the dvd) and serve it over http. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e271e7.6000...@cloud85.net
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
David wrote: On 24 January 2014 01:04, Richard Owlett wrote: As I DO NOT have high speed internet available I have purchased a set of Squeeze DVD's. My impression is that I should be able to copy the set of DVD's to a flash drive and access as loop device to save physically handling DVD's when using apt-get etc. Could I mount it as a loop device and do installs from the flash drive. I've already have created several versions of preseed.cfg to address various issues. Disclaimers: I'm not sure exactly what you are asking. That makes two of us ;) That's why I ended my post asking for references "... so that I might ask good questions." I don't know anything about preseed. For the moment I'm comfortable with preseeding. I doubt I'm using it maximally, but that comes only with experience. Hopefully you find the below assorted tips useful anyway. Regarding iso files: --- Ordinarily, an iso file is used to prepare a filesystem image that is then burnt to a dvd. But you want to go in the opposite direction. Somehow you need to read the entire dvd image into an iso file. And this is not necessarily simple, see for example: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/coasterless.htm#_Accurately_Reading_a_CD Years ago I have done this successfully with CDs. I don't know if it applies to DVDs. From an initial reading, I don't see why it would not apply to a DVD. Careful reread and experimentation to follow. See also: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch10 Section 10.3 and especially 10.3.6 following "you can ... make the ISO9660 image directly from the CD-ROM device as follows" I've found other portions of that work valuable in the past. Thanks for reminding me of it. Chapters 9 and 10 should keep me occupied. "10.3.8. Mounting the ISO9660 image file" implies an answer to my question. Regarding loop mount of file versus device: -- wikipedia explains the basic point well thus: "if the file contains an entire file system, the file may then be mounted as if it were a disk device." Note the *file* may be loop-mounted. Not a device. While 'mount' is commonly used to mount devices, this is different. Loop devices are files pretending to be devices. Could I mount *it* as a loop device (my emphasis on your "it") You don't loop mount the flash *drive*, you loop mount a *file*. So where you have several dvd iso files, then ordinarily you would need several separate loop mounts. Unless you create a filesystem in one huge file, copy all the iso's into it, and then loop mount that huge file. That sounds like a very ugly idea to me, but I suppose it's possible if preseed requires it for some reason. It would be smarter to create one custom image file based on DVD #1 plus any extra you need and mount just that. Try it first with just an image of DVD#1 before anything more complex. I've been working on several quite unrelated personal projects. The only thing they have in common is _me_. In my physical environment It makes my life simpler if all of Debian is on a single physical device. Regarding loop filesystems: -- Loop filesystems are easy to experiment with. Create a file of zeros of the required size (dd), create a filesystem inside the file (mkfs), mount it (mount), copy files into it. # dd if=/dev/zero of=/tmp/my_file bs=1024 count=1024 # mke2fs /tmp/my_file # mkdir -p /tmp/my_mountpoint # mount -v -o loop -t ext2 /tmp/my_file /tmp/my_mountpoint # echo 'testing' > /tmp/my_mountpoint/testfile # cat /tmp/my_mountpoint/testfile # ls -l /tmp/my_mountpoint # umount -v /tmp/my_mountpoint That example skips over the utility named 'losetup' which creates the loop device, because mount calls it for you. For iso images you will need mount -t iso9660 or whatever 'file' reports for the image file. Finally, thanks for correctly calling it a "loop" device and not a "loopback" device (because loopback is a network interface), people are often careless about this. Thank you. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e270fb.7070...@cloud85.net
Re: apt conf
james gray, 22.01.2014: > > the machine i am engaged with = Intel 64 bit. > > Ivy Bridge i3-3110M 2.4 GHz > > from z reason in berkeley. good machine. > > #dpkg --print architecture > > amd64 I don't know if this confused you, but it's actually correct. Intel 64-bit processors use amd64. (The name is amd64 because AMD introduced this 64-bit architecture first but then Intel started to use it too.) So you don't need to worry about this. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140124121244.gb5...@cs.utexas.edu
Re: PXE install, without internet?
On 24 Jan 2014 16:02, "Klaus" wrote:
>
> On 24/01/14 08:44, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
>>
>> When I get on the network mirror page on the installation of client, I
>> try the following
>>
>> http://{PXE_IP_Address}:3142
>>
>> but it just won't work.
>
>
> Didn't we have a recent thread about this? I seem to remember that there
might be a bug in the current installer, and you have to escape the
installer process at that point. Then, enter a shell and edit the file
/etc/apt.conf.d/proxy (this is now on the to-be-installed machine) to point
to your apt-cacher. Exit shell, back to the installer, and live happily
ever after :-)
Just now left from my college. This is the first thing I'll do on Tuesday.
Just a question. Will this work now for both bootable USB and PXEA server
methods.
>
>
>> I have also been advised to use a proxy in the preseed.cfg.
>
>
> And? Wasn't that good advice? From <
http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/example-preseed.txt>
>
> d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian
> d-i mirror/http/proxy string
>
Dont know why, i am afraid of preeseeding as of now. I should gice that a
try.
Cheers
>
> --
> Klaus
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Re: PXE install, without internet?
On 24/01/14 08:44, Anubhav Yadav wrote:
When I get on the network mirror page on the installation of client, I
try the following
http://{PXE_IP_Address}:3142
but it just won't work.
Didn't we have a recent thread about this? I seem to remember that there
might be a bug in the current installer, and you have to escape the
installer process at that point. Then, enter a shell and edit the file
/etc/apt.conf.d/proxy (this is now on the to-be-installed machine) to
point to your apt-cacher. Exit shell, back to the installer, and live
happily ever after :-)
I have also been advised to use a proxy in the preseed.cfg.
And? Wasn't that good advice? From
d-i mirror/http/directory string /debian
d-i mirror/http/proxy string
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Re: Confused about dist-upgrade
On Fri 24 Jan 2014 at 11:54:12 +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly > documented in the Release Notes. Which is where I got what I wrote from: If the system being upgraded provides critical services for your users or the network[2], you can reduce the downtime if you do a minimal system upgrade, as described in Section 4.4.5, “Minimal system upgrade”, followed by a kernel upgrade and reboot, and then upgrade the packages associated with your critical services. Upgrade these packages prior to doing the full upgrade described in Section 4.4.6, “Upgrading the system”. This way you can ensure that these critical services are running and available through the full upgrade process, and their downtime is reduced. Alternatively: In some cases, doing the full upgrade (as described below) directly might remove large numbers of packages that you will want to keep. We therefore recommend a two-part upgrade process: first a minimal upgrade to overcome these conflicts, then a full upgrade as described in Section 4.4.6, “Upgrading the system” Sections 4.1.3. and 4.4.5. of http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-upgrading.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/24012014101334.9799707e5...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: apt-get dist-upgrade on shutdown ?
On Thu, Jan 23, 2014 at 10:40 PM, Zenaan Harkness wrote: > apt-get upgrade seems to have less "reboot requiring" updates. > > There ought be a way to schedule a dist-upgrade, to occur the next > time I shutdown my computer - not on hibernate/suspend or even logout > (I work on cmd line here and there). > > Doing a dist-upgrade right when I'm shutting the machine down, is > usually the most convenient time for me (before bedtime or whatever), > and so this ought be an easy thing to automate/achieve (as an option > at least). > > Another reason to do so, if one is normally in a gui, and running sid, > is that sometimes gui packages break with an upgrade and a logout at > least is required. Sometimes a reboot is required. Well, if you get it running, what I will want to know is whether you don't find it refusing to shut down just exactly when you need it to shut down in a hurry. That happens to me a lot when I'm shutting MSWindows down. A thought, to reduce the impact, I would tend to want to let it download n the background if I were going to go with this. Then the only thing that would be holding you up on shutdown would be the install part. I think I'd also like it to query me before it started the install, so I have a chance to hold the install off when I need to reboot it quick or something. Not telling you what to do with your computer, of course, just thinking out loud. -- Joel Rees Be careful where you see conspiracy. Look first in your own heart. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caar43ipmpyfkssn+1xkout7zbo-l_0j-qxmfrlzep3dy2qt...@mail.gmail.com
Re: apt.conf wheezy 7.1
On Jo, 23 ian 14, 17:45:57, james gray wrote: > I am trying to set up apt.conf. As I tried to explained to you after the private reply, in most cases you don't need to touch those options of apt.conf. Could you please explain what problem do you think you would be solving by adjusting apt.conf? Kind regards, Andrei P.S. please do not reply off-list, you will get faster answers on list (if you ask the right question) and others will benefit from the answer(s). -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Confused about dist-upgrade
On Jo, 23 ian 14, 23:47:11, Brian wrote: > On Thu 23 Jan 2014 at 17:52:00 -0500, Bob Bernstein wrote: > > > At any rate, to move from, say, squeeze, to wheezy, my approach > > would be to edit my sources.list, replacing all instances of > > "squeeze" with "wheezy", and then running > > > > # apt-get update > > # apt-get dist-upgrade > > > > That as far as memory serves -- which is getting shakier and shakier > > with the advance of years :-( -- is what has worked in the past. > > The recommended way is [snip] The recommended way is specific to each release and thoroughly documented in the Release Notes. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: Using loop devices in Debian
On Vi, 24 ian 14, 11:50:25, David wrote: > > So where you have several dvd iso files, then ordinarily you would > need several separate loop mounts. Unless you create a filesystem in > one huge file, copy all the iso's into it, and then loop mount that > huge file. That sounds like a very ugly idea to me, but I suppose it's > possible if preseed requires it for some reason. It would be smarter > to create one custom image file based on DVD #1 plus any extra you > need and mount just that. Try it first with just an image of DVD#1 > before anything more complex. There are also Blu-ray images. If my understanding is correct the OP already has the full DVD set so using jigdo to create the BD image using the DVDs should be simple and require only minimal network access. Kind regards, Andrei -- http://wiki.debian.org/FAQsFromDebianUser Offtopic discussions among Debian users and developers: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/d-community-offtopic http://nuvreauspam.ro/gpg-transition.txt signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: audio dropouts still
Just realised that yesterday's reply didn't go to the list. Sorry. On 23/01/14 22:15, Zenaan Harkness wrote: 'Tis. Which dist are you running, sid, jessie or wheezy? Minutes earlier, Klaus had scribbled this: JFTR: my X220 is a type 4290-FC1, cpu i5-2540, 8GB ram, up-to-date SID, 3.12-1-amd64 kernel, mostly standard install (Gnome3) -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52e230df.30...@gmail.com
Re: PXE install, without internet?
> set the proxy on the pxe server to localhost:3142 using
> /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90proxy or (/etc/apt/apt.conf)
>
I did the above and now on my PXE server I have 12 gb of packages cached.
What I want to do is when I boot the other computers via network, (ie
the boot from tftp on my PXE server) I want them to download all
packages from the apt-cacher-ng, instead of downloading from the
internet repositories.
When I get on the network mirror page on the installation of client, I
try the following
http://{PXE_IP_Address}:3142
but it just won't work.
I have also been advised to use a proxy in the preseed.cfg. However I
am not using any preseed file. My directory listing of tftp folder is
drwxrwxr-x 3 root root 4096 Dec 12 11:48 debian-installer
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 33 Dec 12 11:48 pxelinux.0 ->
debian-installer/amd64/pxelinux.0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 35 Dec 12 11:48 pxelinux.cfg ->
debian-installer/amd64/pxelinux.cfg
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 64 Dec 12 11:48 version.info
Please advice.
Thanks
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