RE: How to block kernel updates
> From: rwob...@hotmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: RE: How to block kernel updates > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:37:22 + > > >> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:27:37 + >> Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates >> From: rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> >> On 7 February 2014 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: >>> Hello, >>> >>> I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack >>> of space. >>> >>> How can I block them ? >>> >>> Roelof >>> >>> -- >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >>> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact >>> listmas...@lists.debian.org >>> Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w24cd4590c0bc6eeb1c3d4cae...@phx.gbl >>> >> >> You can pin or hold them depending on your package manager. I would >> update your current kernel when updates are available to get security >> fixes >> >> -- >> rob >> >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: >> http://lists.debian.org/caozwb-qfed7mgs5h_jy+u5sh97gnq_kmv-p0f2xbxql_c28...@mail.gmail.com >> > Oke, I will do a re-install of my 80G box. What will be a good partition scheme for normal desktop use? Roelof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w4224d8bd81903e11ed3abaae...@phx.gbl
Re: network setup for xen on a laptop
For laptops you need two networks. A nat network and a host only network. On Feb 7, 2014 5:51 AM, "Henning Follmann" wrote: > Hello, > I just setup a laptop for development. > I usually have multiple XEN instances for development purposes. My previous > setup was a desktop with e static ethernet setup. that was fairly easy. > I had one iface br0 instance in my /etc/network/interfaces > > With the laptop it is different. Most of the time I still use a ethernet > connection. Here I basically use the same setup. I have a br instance in my > interfaces. > I noticed however that the networkmanager (which I use for wifi) knocks > this out. After switching a wifi connection on and off again all the > settings the ethernet got through dhcp were overwritten. > > So know I wonder if there is a "right" way to manage bridge setups for xen. > Is it best to keep everything in /etc/network/interfaces? WIFI too? > How to I bridge the wifi too? > And how do I deal in this case with different wifi locations? > > I am open to any suggestions. > > TIA > Henning > > -- > Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/20140207135047.ga11...@newton.itcfollmann.com > >
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On 07/02/14 06:58 PM, Frank McCormick wrote: On 07/02/14 04:09 PM, Klaus wrote: On 07/02/14 21:01, Frank McCormick wrote: On 07/02/14 03:56 PM, Robin wrote: On 7 February 2014 20:42, Frank McCormick wrote: A moments inattention today and I lost my xorg in Debian Sid. The apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in this: Start-Date: 2014-02-07 14:31:32 Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade Install: libgcrypt20:i386 (1.6.1-1, automatic), libxcb-image0:i386 (0.3.9-1, automatic), libxcb-icccm4:i386 (0.3.9-2, automatic), libxshmfence1:i386 (1.1-2, automatic), libxcb-xf86dri0:i386 (1.10-2, automatic) //snip// As you can see it upgraded xorg...but pulled out all the video drivers! snapshot.debian.org :-) for instance: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/xorg-server/2%3A1.14.5-1/#xserver-xorg-core_2:3a:1.14.5-1 Found everything I needed to reinstall X and all is now well Thanks to everyone for the help. You bet I'll pay attention the next time I upgrade :) -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f59c1f.1090...@videotron.ca
Re: How to block kernel updates
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 09:19:59PM +, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > of space. I think that is the wrong solution. Personally, I'd do a reinstall in your position. I'd backup home AND any configuration files you have changed. Then I'd do a reinstall and ensure that *THIS* time the / directory has a few G. I "personally" just use the whole disk most of the time: root@tal:~# df -h Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/sda536G 34G 182M 100% / udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev tmpfs50M 332K 50M 1% /run tmpfs 5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock tmpfs 293M 0 293M 0% /run/shm As you can see I have a bit of juggling to do now and then anyway, but this is just my laptop. I reckon I'd have more problems if I'd set up a partioning scheme. Of course, your usage and requirements may be different. If it is just a basic home desktop, I wouldn't worry. But blocking kernel updates is the wrong way to go, IMNSHO. > How can I block them ? There are ways, but why compromise on security? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140208022907.GE31249@tal
Re: How to block kernel updates
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:07:34PM +, Joe wrote: > You can also remove any kernel metapackage e.g. linux-image-amd64. Apt > will not normally attempt to replace whatever kernel you have > installed, as it is a bit risky, and as you say, needs quite a chunk How is it risky? Anyway, you're forgetting about security updates. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140208021009.GD31249@tal
Re: How to block kernel updates
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 11:26:37PM +0200, Georgi Naplatanov wrote: > On 02/07/2014 11:19 PM, Roelof Wobben wrote: > > Hello, > > > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > > of space. > > > > How can I block them ? > > if the problem is disk space why your primary concern is kernel updates, > what will happen with other updates if they require additional space ? https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/msg00269.html -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140208020455.GC31249@tal
Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 09:50:21PM +1100, Scott Ferguson wrote: > On 06/02/14 21:32, berenger.mo...@neutralite.org wrote: > > I meant an example of stuff which should be in / but are in fact in /usr. > > Sorry. I'm curious about that too. http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=%2Fusr+site%3Alists.debian.org%2Fdebian-devel For a start: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2011/10/threads.html#00157 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140208015743.GB31249@tal
Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 12:27:55AM +, Klaus wrote: > > On 07/02/14 23:42, Chris Bannister wrote: > >On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:38:36AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > >>I face a question now: > >>1) Should I take time to learn a new twm, or should I install both twm and > >>xfce. > >apt-cache show twm, there is only one! :) > > > > Ah, Friday night We're way ahead of you guys! :) > apt-cache search twm ! Eeee-Arrrgg! What happened to "Tom's Window Manager"? http://www.americantrails.org/resources/ManageMaintain/rulesrec.html (sorry about the oxymoron, it was the first reference I found.) e.g. http://whatculture.com/tv/tv-debate-the-british-series-vs-the-american-season.php -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140208014129.GA31249@tal
Re: trouble installing on old laptop
On Fri, 07 Feb 2014, Marcus wrote: > I'm trying to install Debian on an old laptop (Dell Lat 420) to do > some development work. I'm getting the message that I need the > non-free iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode file > > I've tried installing without thinking that I can apt-get firmware > after installing but base install fails because it “can't find a > kernel” ??? > > I've tried using several non-free net install iso's to no avail – any > suggestions?? Yes. Since you're doing a net CD install, and you need an Internet connection, have you tried wired ethernet instead of wireless? If you can, turn off the wireless transceiver before beginning the install. Or download the first CD of the Debian version you're trying to install, and do the install from it. It doesn't need an Internet connection, since all the files needed (mostly) from the Base Install to Desktop are on that first CD. B -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140207172030.36e3e...@debian7.boseck208.net
Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
On 07/02/14 23:42, Chris Bannister wrote: On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:38:36AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: I face a question now: 1) Should I take time to learn a new twm, or should I install both twm and xfce. apt-cache show twm, there is only one! :) Ah, Friday night apt-cache search twm ! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f57a0b.6050...@gmail.com
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On 07/02/14 04:09 PM, Klaus wrote: On 07/02/14 21:01, Frank McCormick wrote: On 07/02/14 03:56 PM, Robin wrote: On 7 February 2014 20:42, Frank McCormick wrote: A moments inattention today and I lost my xorg in Debian Sid. The apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in this: Start-Date: 2014-02-07 14:31:32 Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade Install: libgcrypt20:i386 (1.6.1-1, automatic), libxcb-image0:i386 (0.3.9-1, automatic), libxcb-icccm4:i386 (0.3.9-2, automatic), libxshmfence1:i386 (1.1-2, automatic), libxcb-xf86dri0:i386 (1.10-2, automatic) //snip// As you can see it upgraded xorg...but pulled out all the video drivers! I've tried to reinstall the various tasks but there is always something blocking it. I've also thought of just waiting days...weeks to see if the video drivers show up in Sid. If they do will they be reinstalled ? Been there. What I normally do is cd /var/cache/apt/archives then run dpkg -i to install previous version of all the xorg packages upgraded. Don't forget the xorg libs, e.g. libxcb-image0:i386. Then re-install the video drivers. That would be easy...IF I hadn't cleared out the archives BEFORE I noticed what my stupidity had done. Are the previous packages available anywhere ?? Thanks snapshot.debian.org :-) for instance: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/xorg-server/2%3A1.14.5-1/#xserver-xorg-core_2:3a:1.14.5-1 That's what I neednow to get all the packages. Thanks for the url. Now to reverse my stupid move :) -- Your mail is being read by tight-lipped NSA agents who fail to see the humor in Doctor Strangelove. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f5730d.1020...@videotron.ca
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On 07/02/14 04:52 PM, Go Linux wrote: On Fri, 2/7/14, Frank McCormick wrote: Subject: Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, February 7, 2014, 3:01 PM That would be easy...IF I hadn't cleared out the archives BEFORE I noticed what my stupidity had done. Are the previous packages available anywhere ?? Thanks Synaptic keeps a history of all downloaded packages. Look under File > History. I'm sure there's probably a way to get that information via cli also (but I don't know how). Yes it's there but I also have a history log in /var/log/apt . It'll be useful when I visit snapshot.debian.net :) Thanks -- Your mail is being read by tight-lipped NSA agents who fail to see the humor in Doctor Strangelove. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f572b4.1030...@videotron.ca
Re: How to block kernel updates
On Fri, 2014-02-07 at 22:07 +, Joe wrote: > wish me luck when I reboot... You don't need luck. JFTR, additional few bytes will be released after deleting modules in /lib/modules/ resp. after removing dkms entries for removed kernel versions. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1391817171.4466.2.camel@archlinux
Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 10:38:36AM +0530, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > I face a question now: > 1) Should I take time to learn a new twm, or should I install both twm and > xfce. apt-cache show twm, there is only one! :) -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140207234233.GA19911@tal
Re: How to block kernel updates
On Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:37:22 + Roelof Wobben wrote: > > > Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:27:37 + > > Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates > > From: rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com > > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > > > On 7 February 2014 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: > >> Hello, > >> > >> I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be > >> installed ny lack of space. > >> > >> How can I block them ? > >> > >> Roelof > >> > >> -- > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > >> listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: > >> http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w24cd4590c0bc6eeb1c3d4cae...@phx.gbl > >> > > > > You can pin or hold them depending on your package manager. I would > > update your current kernel when updates are available to get > > security fixes > > > > -- > > rob > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: > > http://lists.debian.org/caozwb-qfed7mgs5h_jy+u5sh97gnq_kmv-p0f2xbxql_c28...@mail.gmail.com > > > > Thanks, it worked. > I use the apt-mark way. > > Roelof > You can also remove any kernel metapackage e.g. linux-image-amd64. Apt will not normally attempt to replace whatever kernel you have installed, as it is a bit risky, and as you say, needs quite a chunk of additional space. The metapackage is used when you specifically want to stay upgraded to the latest of the appropriate type and are willing to fix the occasional problem. And I know it works because I've just remembered that I did exactly that some time ago, to block a particular upgrade I knew would cause trouble. Several kernels have passed by since then...wish me luck when I reboot... -- Joe -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140207220734.34792...@jretrading.com
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On Fri, 2/7/14, Frank McCormick wrote: Subject: Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade To: debian-user@lists.debian.org Date: Friday, February 7, 2014, 3:01 PM That would be easy...IF I hadn't cleared out the archives BEFORE I noticed what my stupidity had done. Are the previous packages available anywhere ?? Thanks Synaptic keeps a history of all downloaded packages. Look under File > History. I'm sure there's probably a way to get that information via cli also (but I don't know how). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/1391809946.70869.yahoomailba...@web163401.mail.gq1.yahoo.com
Re: harddrives with built-in NAND fkash
I have used the same kind of drive as a main drive on my laptop. While I have no proof that the extra nand where used, I tend to think they were. There wasn't any extra drive showing in gparted or other tool. Plus those nand are used by the drive to store most used file and quicken the loading of them, so I don't think it's the OS job to deal with them. Fabrice On 02/07/2014 10:25 PM, Ric Moore wrote: Do they require any special formating or partitioning to take advantage of the 8 gigs of built-in "NAND flash"? I'm looking at a Seagate "Solid State Hybrid drive - ST2000DX001 Thanks for any info and/or suggestions. Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f55289.9020...@gmail.com
trouble installing on old laptop
I'm trying to install Debian on an old laptop (Dell Lat 420) to do some development work. I'm getting the message that I need the non-free iwlwifi-4965-2.ucode file I've tried installing without thinking that I can apt-get firmware after installing but base install fails because it “can't find a kernel” ??? I've tried using several non-free net install iso's to no avail – any suggestions?? marcus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f55139.3080...@kermitplace.us
RE: How to block kernel updates
> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 21:27:37 + > Subject: Re: How to block kernel updates > From: rc.rattusrat...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > > On 7 February 2014 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: >> Hello, >> >> I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack >> of space. >> >> How can I block them ? >> >> Roelof >> >> -- >> To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org >> with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org >> Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w24cd4590c0bc6eeb1c3d4cae...@phx.gbl >> > > You can pin or hold them depending on your package manager. I would > update your current kernel when updates are available to get security > fixes > > -- > rob > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: > http://lists.debian.org/caozwb-qfed7mgs5h_jy+u5sh97gnq_kmv-p0f2xbxql_c28...@mail.gmail.com > Thanks, it worked. I use the apt-mark way. Roelof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w31271159afccabb8d23925ae...@phx.gbl
Re: How to block kernel updates
On 02/07/2014 11:19 PM, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > of space. > > How can I block them ? > > Roelof Hi Roelof, if the problem is disk space why your primary concern is kernel updates, what will happen with other updates if they require additional space ? Best regards Georgi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f54f8d.2090...@oles.biz
Re: How to block kernel updates
On 7 February 2014 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Hello, > > I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack > of space. > > How can I block them ? > > Roelof > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w24cd4590c0bc6eeb1c3d4cae...@phx.gbl > You can pin or hold them depending on your package manager. I would update your current kernel when updates are available to get security fixes -- rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caozwb-qfed7mgs5h_jy+u5sh97gnq_kmv-p0f2xbxql_c28...@mail.gmail.com
harddrives with built-in NAND fkash
Do they require any special formating or partitioning to take advantage of the 8 gigs of built-in "NAND flash"? I'm looking at a Seagate "Solid State Hybrid drive - ST2000DX001 Thanks for any info and/or suggestions. Ric -- My father, Victor Moore (Vic) used to say: "There are two Great Sins in the world... ..the Sin of Ignorance, and the Sin of Stupidity. Only the former may be overcome." R.I.P. Dad. /https://linuxcounter.net/cert/44256.png / -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f54f5b.8060...@gmail.com
Re: How to block kernel updates
On 07/02/14 21:19, Roelof Wobben wrote: Hello, I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack of space. How can I block them ? Roelof One way is to put a particular package version on "hold". See for instance 'man aptitude': remove, purge, hold, unhold, keep, reinstall These commands are the same as “install”, but apply the named action to all packages given on the command line for which it is not overridden. The difference between hold and keep is that hold will cause a package to be ignored by future safe-upgrade or full-upgrade commands, while keep merely cancels any scheduled actions on the package. unhold will allow a package to be upgraded by future safe-upgrade or full-upgrade commands, without otherwise altering its state. -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f54f82.6090...@gmail.com
How to block kernel updates
Hello, I want to block the kernel updates because they cannot be installed ny lack of space. How can I block them ? Roelof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w24cd4590c0bc6eeb1c3d4cae...@phx.gbl
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On 7 February 2014 20:42, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > A moments inattention today and I lost my xorg in Debian Sid. > The apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in this: > > > Start-Date: 2014-02-07 14:31:32 > Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade > Install: libgcrypt20:i386 (1.6.1-1, automatic), libxcb-image0:i386 (0.3.9-1, > automatic), libxcb-icccm4:i386 (0.3.9-2, automatic), libxshmfence1:i386 > (1.1-2, automatic), libxcb-xf86dri0:i386 (1.10-2, automatic) > Upgrade: xserver-xorg-core:i386 (1.14.5-1, 1.15.0-2), xserver-common:i386 > (1.14.5-1, 1.15.0-2), xserver-xephyr:i386 (1.14.5-1, 1.15.0-2), > libio-socket-ssl-perl:i386 (1.966-1, 1.967-1) > Remove: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics:i386 (1.7.3-1), > xserver-xorg-video-tdfx:i386 (1.4.5-1), xserver-xorg-video-vmware:i386 > (13.0.1-3), task-desktop:i386 (3.20), xorg:i386 (7.7+5), > xserver-xorg-video-sisusb:i386 (0.9.6-2), xserver-xorg-video-savage:i386 > (2.3.7-2), xserver-xorg-video-mga:i386 (1.6.3-1), > xserver-xorg-video-r128:i386 (6.9.2-1), xserver-xorg-video-geode:i386 > (2.11.15-1), xserver-xorg-video-neomagic:i386 (1.2.8-1), > xserver-xorg-video-modesetting:i386 (0.8.1-1), > xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion:i386 (1.7.7-2), > xserver-xorg-video-cirrus:i386 (1.5.2-1+b1), xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:i386 > (1.0.10-1), xserver-xorg-video-openchrome:i386 (0.3.3-1), > xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 (2.21.15-2), xserver-xorg-video-mach64:i386 > (6.9.4-1+b1), xserver-xorg-input-all:i386 (7.7+5), > xserver-xorg-input-wacom:i386 (0.23.0+20131011-1), > xserver-xorg-video-fbdev:i386 (0.4.4-1), xserver-xorg-video-all:i386 > (7.7+5), xserver-xorg-video-radeon:i386 (7.3.0-1), > xserver-xorg-video-qxl:i386 (0.1.0-2.1), xserver-xorg-input-evdev:i386 > (2.8.2-1), xserver-xorg-video-vesa:i386 (2.3.3-1+b1), > xserver-xorg-video-trident:i386 (1.3.6-2), xserver-xorg:i386 (7.7+5), > xserver-xorg-input-mouse:i386 (1.9.0-1+b1), xserver-xorg-video-ati:i386 > (7.3.0-1), xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse:i386 (13.0.0-1+b1) > End-Date: 2014-02-07 14:32:13 > > > As you can see it upgraded xorg...but pulled out all the video drivers! > > I've tried to reinstall the various tasks but there is always something > blocking it. I've also thought of just waiting days...weeks to see if the > video drivers show up in Sid. If they do will they be reinstalled ? > > Any way to reverse this ? Anything I've tried has been a waste of time. > > > Thanks for any suggestions. > > Been there. What I normally do is cd /var/cache/apt/archives then run dpkg -i to install previous version of all the xorg packages upgraded. Don't forget the xorg libs, e.g. libxcb-image0:i386. Then re-install the video drivers. -- rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caozwb-q1gkkq5ojjqcdt2yaxe4djzgo4bzx1v2uj-cqvaa1...@mail.gmail.com
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On 07/02/14 21:01, Frank McCormick wrote: On 07/02/14 03:56 PM, Robin wrote: On 7 February 2014 20:42, Frank McCormick wrote: A moments inattention today and I lost my xorg in Debian Sid. The apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in this: Start-Date: 2014-02-07 14:31:32 Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade Install: libgcrypt20:i386 (1.6.1-1, automatic), libxcb-image0:i386 (0.3.9-1, automatic), libxcb-icccm4:i386 (0.3.9-2, automatic), libxshmfence1:i386 (1.1-2, automatic), libxcb-xf86dri0:i386 (1.10-2, automatic) //snip// As you can see it upgraded xorg...but pulled out all the video drivers! I've tried to reinstall the various tasks but there is always something blocking it. I've also thought of just waiting days...weeks to see if the video drivers show up in Sid. If they do will they be reinstalled ? Been there. What I normally do is cd /var/cache/apt/archives then run dpkg -i to install previous version of all the xorg packages upgraded. Don't forget the xorg libs, e.g. libxcb-image0:i386. Then re-install the video drivers. That would be easy...IF I hadn't cleared out the archives BEFORE I noticed what my stupidity had done. Are the previous packages available anywhere ?? Thanks snapshot.debian.org :-) for instance: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/xorg-server/2%3A1.14.5-1/#xserver-xorg-core_2:3a:1.14.5-1 -- Klaus -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f54b73.9040...@gmail.com
Re: need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
On 07/02/14 03:56 PM, Robin wrote: On 7 February 2014 20:42, Frank McCormick wrote: A moments inattention today and I lost my xorg in Debian Sid. The apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in this: Start-Date: 2014-02-07 14:31:32 Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade Install: libgcrypt20:i386 (1.6.1-1, automatic), libxcb-image0:i386 (0.3.9-1, automatic), libxcb-icccm4:i386 (0.3.9-2, automatic), libxshmfence1:i386 (1.1-2, automatic), libxcb-xf86dri0:i386 (1.10-2, automatic) //snip// As you can see it upgraded xorg...but pulled out all the video drivers! I've tried to reinstall the various tasks but there is always something blocking it. I've also thought of just waiting days...weeks to see if the video drivers show up in Sid. If they do will they be reinstalled ? Been there. What I normally do is cd /var/cache/apt/archives then run dpkg -i to install previous version of all the xorg packages upgraded. Don't forget the xorg libs, e.g. libxcb-image0:i386. Then re-install the video drivers. That would be easy...IF I hadn't cleared out the archives BEFORE I noticed what my stupidity had done. Are the previous packages available anywhere ?? Thanks -- Your mail is being read by tight-lipped NSA agents who fail to see the humor in Doctor Strangelove. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f549a5.6000...@videotron.ca
need to reverse an apt-get upgrade
A moments inattention today and I lost my xorg in Debian Sid. The apt-get dist-upgrade resulted in this: Start-Date: 2014-02-07 14:31:32 Commandline: apt-get dist-upgrade Install: libgcrypt20:i386 (1.6.1-1, automatic), libxcb-image0:i386 (0.3.9-1, automatic), libxcb-icccm4:i386 (0.3.9-2, automatic), libxshmfence1:i386 (1.1-2, automatic), libxcb-xf86dri0:i386 (1.10-2, automatic) Upgrade: xserver-xorg-core:i386 (1.14.5-1, 1.15.0-2), xserver-common:i386 (1.14.5-1, 1.15.0-2), xserver-xephyr:i386 (1.14.5-1, 1.15.0-2), libio-socket-ssl-perl:i386 (1.966-1, 1.967-1) Remove: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics:i386 (1.7.3-1), xserver-xorg-video-tdfx:i386 (1.4.5-1), xserver-xorg-video-vmware:i386 (13.0.1-3), task-desktop:i386 (3.20), xorg:i386 (7.7+5), xserver-xorg-video-sisusb:i386 (0.9.6-2), xserver-xorg-video-savage:i386 (2.3.7-2), xserver-xorg-video-mga:i386 (1.6.3-1), xserver-xorg-video-r128:i386 (6.9.2-1), xserver-xorg-video-geode:i386 (2.11.15-1), xserver-xorg-video-neomagic:i386 (1.2.8-1), xserver-xorg-video-modesetting:i386 (0.8.1-1), xserver-xorg-video-siliconmotion:i386 (1.7.7-2), xserver-xorg-video-cirrus:i386 (1.5.2-1+b1), xserver-xorg-video-nouveau:i386 (1.0.10-1), xserver-xorg-video-openchrome:i386 (0.3.3-1), xserver-xorg-video-intel:i386 (2.21.15-2), xserver-xorg-video-mach64:i386 (6.9.4-1+b1), xserver-xorg-input-all:i386 (7.7+5), xserver-xorg-input-wacom:i386 (0.23.0+20131011-1), xserver-xorg-video-fbdev:i386 (0.4.4-1), xserver-xorg-video-all:i386 (7.7+5), xserver-xorg-video-radeon:i386 (7.3.0-1), xserver-xorg-video-qxl:i386 (0.1.0-2.1), xserver-xorg-input-evdev:i386 (2.8.2-1), xserver-xorg-video-vesa:i386 (2.3.3-1+b1), xserver-xorg-video-trident:i386 (1.3.6-2), xserver-xorg:i386 (7.7+5), xserver-xorg-input-mouse:i386 (1.9.0-1+b1), xserver-xorg-video-ati:i386 (7.3.0-1), xserver-xorg-input-vmmouse:i386 (13.0.0-1+b1) End-Date: 2014-02-07 14:32:13 As you can see it upgraded xorg...but pulled out all the video drivers! I've tried to reinstall the various tasks but there is always something blocking it. I've also thought of just waiting days...weeks to see if the video drivers show up in Sid. If they do will they be reinstalled ? Any way to reverse this ? Anything I've tried has been a waste of time. Thanks for any suggestions. -- Your mail is being read by tight-lipped NSA agents who fail to see the humor in Doctor Strangelove. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f5452f.4080...@videotron.ca
Re: Difference between apt and apt-get
"Gian Uberto Lauri" writes: > berenger.mo...@neutralite.org writes: > > > > > > Le 06.02.2014 11:13, Lisi Reisz a écrit : > > > On Thursday 06 February 2014 05:43:45 Muntasim-Ul-Haque wrote: > > >> I want to know what is the basic difference between *apt*, as in > > >> /apt update/ and *apt-get*, as in /apt-get update/. > > > > > > Can one do ? I have never heard of it, which could > > > easily > > > be my ignorance, but Google can't find it either. If it exists, I > > > would be interested in what it is used for. > > > > > > Lisi > > > > Command-not-found also does not know about it, so my guess is that "apt > > update" just does not exists. I tend to trust command-not-found :) > > dpkg -L apt shows no evidence of an executable named apt. I feel he might have meant the differences between apt-get and _aptitude_, but got a little confused in the terminology. My two cent interpretation. Pete -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/87mwi2ogzy@enterprise.sectorq.net
Re: Configuring OpenLDAP to support dynamic list overlay in Wheezy
On 06/02/14 21:06, Alan Chandler wrote: I am stuggling to understand how to get the dynamic list overlay working using OpenLdap I think I found a good solution to this problem here http://koivunej.wordpress.com/2012/07/16/learning-openldap-2-4-cnconfig-usage/ I have a least got the olcOverlay element as a subsidiary of the database config. Combining that with Step 4 here http://www.whitemiceconsulting.com/2010/02/configuring-openldaps-dynlist-in.html gives me enough clues to finish In particular it uses olcDlAttrSet Attribute to define the equivalent of dynlist-attrset Not actually working yet, but now I need to construct the actual directory tree for the data. Alan Chandler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f53481.3060...@chandlerfamily.org.uk
Re: postfix: maildir-style delivery with external MDA?
On Mi, 05 feb 14, 13:29:08, Markus Schönhaber wrote:
>
> What is a "notmuch"?
apt-cache show notmuch ;)
> Anyway: How does maildrop get mail from postfix - via pipe? If so,
> remove the F from the flags to the pipe call in master.cf
I'm was using the simplest method, which is via mailbox_command. In the
meantime I investigated this deeper and it seems that with this method
maildrop is receiving the e-mail via local(8), not pipe(8) and local
always prepends a From line when delivering to an external command.
I tried using pipe(8), by reusing the already existing definition in
master.cf
maildrop unix - n n - - pipe
flags=DRhu user=vmail argv=/usr/bin/maildrop -d ${recipient}
and setting
mailbox_transport = maildrop
maildrop_destination_recipient_limit = 1
but user 'vmail' does not exist (of course, I only have "normal" users) and if
I change
that to 'mail' I get:
Feb 7 20:34:54 sid postfix/master[2379]: daemon started -- version 2.10.2,
configuration /etc/postfix
Feb 7 20:35:27 sid postfix/pickup[2380]: 6F4C4C048F: uid=1077 from=
Feb 7 20:35:27 sid postfix/cleanup[2393]: 6F4C4C048F:
message-id=<20140207183527.GB2170@sid.nuvreauspam>
Feb 7 20:35:27 sid postfix/qmgr[2381]: 6F4C4C048F: from=,
size=596, nrcpt=1 (queue active)
Feb 7 20:35:27 sid postfix/pipe[2396]: 6F4C4C048F: to=,
relay=maildrop, delay=0.07, delays=0.04/0.01/0/0.02, dsn=5.1.1, status=bounced
(user unknown. Command output: ERR: authdaemon: s_connect() failed: No such
file or directory Invalid user specified. )
Feb 7 20:35:27 sid postfix/bounce[2398]: 6F4C4C048F: sender non-delivery
notification: 7DA61C0509
Feb 7 20:35:27 sid postfix/qmgr[2381]: 6F4C4C048F: removed
User 'mail' exists, of course, as per Debian standard and it seems
maildrop is installed by the Debian package as
$ ls -l /usr/bin/maildrop
-rwxr-sr-x 1 root mail 206940 feb 1 19:44 /usr/bin/maildrop
Any other suggestions?
Thanks,
Andrei
P.S. prepending of '>' to lines starting with 'From' was not done by
postfix and now that I'm thinking about it I've only seen it on external
mail.
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I'm running Debian Testing with the default desktop environment installed from tasksel, on an Intel i7 system (64-bit install) with an Nvidia GTX 760 GPU. (No closed drivers installed, just whatever comes with the system.) I'm having problems with tearing. When you drag windows around quickly, or play any video, severe vertical tearing is obvious. I Googled the problem and found many suggestions to put the following into /etc/environment: CLUTTER_PAINT=disable-clipped-redraws:disable-culling CLUTTER_VBLANK=True But this made no difference to me. (I Googled CLUTTER_VBLANK and found documentation suggesting it can only be set to dri or glx, but neither of those made any difference either.) Is there anything I can do to fix/enable vertical sync to stop the tearing, or is this a bug? Happy to provide more information if required. -- David Glover-Aoki http://david.gloveraoki.net/contact signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
butsu butsu butsu butsu ... On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Anubhav Yadav wrote: > Hello list, > > I have an Asus laptop, with 720 gigs hardisk and i5 processor. > Right now I have a dual boot of Windoze (only for playing fifa > and assassins creed) and debian wheezy 64 bit. Someone suggested VMs, and I'll second that suggestion, except reverse the idea about making MSWindows the primary domain. Don't mean offense to whoever posted that, but it does not make any sense to me. Use the system you have confidence in as your primary domain. You should not be using the primary domain on a day-to-day basis, BTW. Any way you look at it, if you're doing VMs, you want the system you work in to be a VM instance. makes things much easier to manage. But the advice below does not fully take that kind of thing into account. Do you have install media for your MSWindows? (The answer to that also changes some of the rest of the advice ever-so-slightly.) > Debian takes a lots of time for booting up and some folks on irc > said that I should be trying systemd. I did that but there was no > improvement. So some people also suggested that my partitions > are somehow not right. IRC can get good information and bad information. Same here, of course. 30 seconds after login with Gnome 3 is not that bad, especially with a 5400 RPM notebook-class HD. Someone asked how much RAM you have. How much? 1G is not enough with Gnome 3. More than 4G is more than is necessary under many "normal" loads, but if you don't have 4G, 4G is reasonable. If you can add memory or replace what you have and have the money to spare. The reason that "4G" of RAM is based on powers of two where "720G" of HD is based on powers of ten has to do with the way RAM is laid out in the semiconductor and the way tracks are laid out on disks, BTW. (Not that you seem to be worried about the distinction between GB and GiB in the modern parlance of marketing.) > So now since I am about to partition I would like to know what should > be the ideal partitioning scheme. > > Here is the screenshot of my current partitions. > http://i.imgur.com/YI4a1oU.png What are Neo and Workstation for? (May I ask?) Some of the numbers look like a bit of overkill in some respects, but they shouldn't really be causes of slow boots (in and of themselves). The sizes, mixed with other issues could, however, induce issues. > There was a tool which gave the read-write speeds of my hdd, > that was mentioned by the guys in irc, I cant remember now, and > the speeds were very low. Did that tool also have diagnostics? Was it the ASUS provided tool? Did you run some tool to check that your HD is not having smartdrive issues? (Ergo, not dying an untimely death.) > So these are the questions: > > 1) What partitioning scheme should I choose now, If I want to have > /home, /var, /usr, /tmp on different partitions and I just want a windoze > partition of 50-60 gb. Suggestions from me (and no reasons to trust me more than anyone else, perhaps): / (root partition) should be at least large enough to handle a /var gone out of control if /var doesn't mount, or if you don't have a separate /var. Minimum 4G (base ten or base two, either way). I'd go with 8G, since you're starting with a drive bigger than 120G. Larger if you do choose to combine /usr and /var, and so forth, with the root partition. /etc? I've seen recommendations to separate /etc as a partition. It's a bit of a trap for a home-use machine, don't do it this time around. Keep /etc with /. /bin? /sbin? /ilb? Keep these combined with / unless you like to confuse the kernel when it i trying to boot and can't find any of the standard tools or even some of the libraries it needs to boot even to single-user mode these days. /usr? There are strange things that happen to Red Hat (Fedora, etc.) style machines during boot that indicate against /usr being separate. I've been bitten by them on Fedora, which is one of the reasons I am using Debian now. I keep /usr separate because it tends to change a lot when you install and remove packages. It's that simple. However, you don't need more than 32G for /usr unless you really go crazy installing (literally) every package available, and installing a lot of packages is one good way to slow your machine down on boot and login. (Of course, if you don't install lots of stuff, you never get to play with it and discover new tools. :-/) Well, be a bit careful what you install beyond what you know you need, but not too careful. Anyway, 32G for /usr should not be overkill, and won't be too time consuming when it has to be fsck-ed. fsck demonstrates one good reason to keep partitions small. Large partitions take longer on fsck and similar maintenance. And if you ever have to search for lost text files with testdisk or such, larger than 32G can be a real, serious show stopper. (I gave up when I lost two-days' work to a bad Makefile just two weeks back, because the files were text files and too small
network setup for xen on a laptop
Hello, I just setup a laptop for development. I usually have multiple XEN instances for development purposes. My previous setup was a desktop with e static ethernet setup. that was fairly easy. I had one iface br0 instance in my /etc/network/interfaces With the laptop it is different. Most of the time I still use a ethernet connection. Here I basically use the same setup. I have a br instance in my interfaces. I noticed however that the networkmanager (which I use for wifi) knocks this out. After switching a wifi connection on and off again all the settings the ethernet got through dhcp were overwritten. So know I wonder if there is a "right" way to manage bridge setups for xen. Is it best to keep everything in /etc/network/interfaces? WIFI too? How to I bridge the wifi too? And how do I deal in this case with different wifi locations? I am open to any suggestions. TIA Henning -- Henning Follmann | hfollm...@itcfollmann.com -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/20140207135047.ga11...@newton.itcfollmann.com
Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
Le 07.02.2014 06:08, Anubhav Yadav a écrit : Simply that, if you intend to take i3, you will have to learn to think differently. My opinion is that tiling wm are far more efficient than classic stacking window managers, but it indeed changed my habits. Since then, for example, I do not use any file explorer, they are slower than command line for most things. Of course, you still can use file explorers... So you use only command line for navigation files? Or do you use a command line file explorer? I tried mc. I did not liked it, so I only use bash. Now, i3 is the one I choose because it did not implied a lot of learning, it's configuration file is really clean: no need to learn any programming language there, but facts is that it lacks some features against more hard-core twm, for example some others have layouts: new windows does not just split current container, they are moved in a precise place of the screen. But anyway, here is a quote from i3-wm.org: "i3 is primarily targeted at advanced users and developers.". Gnome users might do not feel good there. It provide only a window manager, no menu, no desktop, etc. You will have to install those yourself. All I need is a good network manager. A good notifier so that I get notified of xchat mentions or usb plugged in notifications. Wicd works like a charm, but I only use it when I need to connect to non protected wifi network, because I do not know how to configure by hand those networks :) About notification notifier, i3 can notify you when a window ask attention, so no problem for xchat I guess. For usb notifications, I do not know, never really minded, I mount storage myself, and for other hardware, udev does what it have to do alone. Now I am also a programming student, so learning a good language for a twm shouldn't be an overkill. I face a question now: 1) Should I take time to learn a new twm, or should I install both twm and xfce. 2) i3 vs awesome! Just installed i3, lets see how it fares against awesome. -- Regards, Anubhav Yadav Imperial College of Engineering and Research, Pune. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/d44040061a3636119c5297f0eff0f...@neutralite.org
Re: creating virtual users
On Fri, Feb 7, 2014 at 3:54 AM, wrote: > The idea may seems, and probably is, quite strange. Not as strange as it used to seem, I think. More and more, you don't have to be extremely paranoid to see these kinds of things. > But I have seen for now 2 uses for it (there probably are more than those > ones). > _ Building a DE which would be a complete IDE, even for command line users > as me. This one is actually a really old one. I think every systems vendor has wanted to provide (ergo, control) their customers' entire application stack. > Those of you which have written more than 500 lines of code knows > that there exists tools which re-implement most of the system's features, to > provide to the user an unified environment dedicated to programming. As you notice below, even Unix was originally a unified environment. In theory. Anyway, the guys at Bell labs had a vision of a unified environment in which basically everything in the system existed within the file system, and in which all processes communicated by pipes. That vision is a large part of the reason OSses which inherit their structure from Unix are so stable. > Examples for a generic IDE[1]: text edition, I think you mean text editing? But, then, what is text, in the broadest sense? > file browsing, window > management, project management, and a lot of other tasks. Some could say > that even vim and emacs reimplements such things (does text editors needs to > implement window management? file locking? is not their task to simply write > text? The question you seem to be asking is where to cut the boundaries between application and system, is it not? > I could go deeper there, but my ideas are all except conventional so I > won't. Not as unconventional as you seem to think, if you can learn to ignore the mis-information rays emitted from Redmond. > Flame wars are useless when you can't prove that your ideas are > possible.). Oh, come on. Flame wars erupt precisely when people argue about things they don't understand. Well, at least, in my experience and according to the way I see things. ;-) > The problem being that, when a tool reimplement environment's > features, it does not integrate with the look and feel of the global > environment, in a portable manner (yes, this assertion includes windows. I > said: portable.). Unless the tool implementer has bought into the vendor's vision and paid to attend the vendor's summer camps and somehow still seen through the hype. If you know what I mean. > _ now, I am reading documentation about TOR and TAIL[2] and am thinking that > if it was possible to start programs with temporary virtual user or even > system, it may make things a lot more simple to do secured[3] tasks. Absolutely. That was supposed to be part of what sandboxes were all about, by the way, but they seem to have been sidetracked by the sales department and the accounting department. > For now, I only had my 1st idea in mind, which is not very very important, > but, my current readings ( about security and being anonymous when using a > hotel's wifi connection ) makes me think that this issue may finally be an > important one, Definitely. > which make me needing to learn the hows and whys ( other > things it made me think about: And Microsoft and the NSA think they need you to forget that need. And let their software handle it all for you. > my laptop computer is absolutely not secured, > and by not being hidden I avoid other people to be hidden, for example. And, > yes, I think that being able to hide himself is an ability to freedom, but > the problems freedom may imply are not worse than the ones that the lack of > freedom will prove. I am becoming more and more paranoid it seem ) Some people think freedom is about being freed of things that are hard to think about and hard to do. By which, I mean to say, the theoretical average customer is believed to not want to have to be bothered. That theoretical average customer is the sales department's best friend, according to the sales department. > So, do anyone knows if there exist a desktop-usable ( windows, mac OS, > linux, unix, and 'some'BSD are the only OSes that I've hear about which I > can think to be usable) OS which allows a user to create a user, and if yes, > which one and how? It's not impossible.with present systems, you just need a bit of glue, and some way to restrict how many and what kinds of user accounts ordinary users are allowed to make. Just think of user ids as one more kind of system resource. > For example, when we run linux, we have a root user which is the creator of > the system (uid=0 IIRC). He > effectively creates a bootable system, and is the only one to have rights to > create other users. > If he gave to some of those users the rights to create other users, he needs > to give them a total control on the system[4]. Well, you say you don't want to mess with sudo, and sudo could provide one way to do this. But you don't need
Fwd: Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice.
resent to list Original Message Subject: Re: About to format the whole laptop, need some partitioning advice. Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2014 22:25:18 +1100 From: Scott Ferguson To: Anubhav Yadav On 07/02/14 16:01, Anubhav Yadav wrote: >> Defining "desktop" is the tricky bit (to some it only means where the >> box sits). In this instance I've assumed the OP means office apps, bit >> of gaming, internet apps - so I'd go go for a two slice setup, with a >> separate / and /home, with and a swap file. For a similar "desktop" in a >> business environment it'd be SOE rules so I would use more partitions >> (backup and rollout planning would be a nightmare otherwise - not to >> mention support contract negotiation headaches). >> > > Hi, I would like to set up an environment for development and programming. > So I guess I will have to separate out the /usr and / part and keep > /home on a different > partition too. > Not mandatory, given the size of cheap external drives, but handy *if* you set the appropriate sizes (you may only know the right size from personal experience). I'd strongly recommend a separate /home. In general I use multiple slices, if only because it's easier to hunt a fish in ponds than in oceans (poor analogy for indexes). Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f4c648.70...@gmail.com
Re: d-i partion size defaults insufficient (was ... Re: upgrade problem)
On 07/02/14 19:17, Roelof Wobben wrote: > >> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:25:47 +1100 >> From: scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com >> To: debian-user@lists.debian.org >> Subject: Re: d-i partion size defaults insufficient (was ... Re: upgrade >> problem) >> >> On 07/02/14 14:07, Chris Bannister wrote: >>> CC'ing debian-boot >>> >>> Seems as though Roelof is now in space trouble. >>> He says he followed the d-i's suggestions >>> Thread starts here: >>> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/msg00269.html >>> >>> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 01:08:39PM +, Roelof Wobben wrote: > Was that the default partitioning layout suggested by the installer? Yes, it is. >>> >>> Not too good is it. Now look at the situation you are in. I think I've >>> been bitten by that in the past. >>> >>> It seems strange why more people aren't being affected by this, though. >>> > I notice that you only have 85M free under / which includes /lib. > e.g. > root@tal:~# du -h /lib/modules/ | tail -n 3 > 81M /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae/kernel > 84M /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae > 84M /lib/modules/ > > What does yours say? 127M /lib/modules/3.12-1-amd64/kernel 130M /lib/modules/3.12-1-amd64 130M /lib/modules/ >>> >>> Ouch! >>> > So that 85M you have free is the problem. > > Have you got any old kernels installed which you could purge? > > root@tal:~# ls -alh /lib/modules/ > total 20K > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Oct 4 16:22 . > drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 12K Dec 28 20:52 .. > drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jun 21 2013 3.2.0-4-686-pae Nope, unfortunately not. >>> >>> Have you tried Scott's suggestion of using deborphan (provides orphaner) >>> to see if you can free up some room? Although, I think you'll be lucky to >>> free up the required amount. >> >> Agreed. Though I'd try the following first just to check:- >> $ deborphan -sz > > Did not work. Still the same problem. deborphan found no orphans? If so:- # apt-get --purge remove `deborphan` That'll prevent upgrade from upgrading packages you don't use. > >> Another possibility is to re-mount (or bind) /lib somewhere with more space > > How can I do that ? >From "man mount" Since Linux 2.4.0 it is possible to remount part of the file hierarchy somewhere else. The call is mount --bind olddir newdir or shortoption mount -B olddir newdir or fstab entry is: /olddir /newdir none bind After this call the same contents is accessible in two places. One can also remount a single file (on a single file). It's also possible to use the bind mount to create a mountpoint from a regular directory, for example: mount --bind foo foo You might also want to consider my suggestion to move some of /lib (for the upgrade process only) to a slice with space, and symlink the moved directories back to /lib. Given your situation I'd strongly recommend downloading the upgrade packages *before* doing the actual upgrade. e.g.:- # apt-get -d dist-upgrade followed by:- # apt-get dist-upgrade Of course that advice may be too late > > Roelof > Kind regards -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/52f4c495.7020...@gmail.com
Re: I can not install Debian because UEFI 32-bit
On 7 February 2014 02:23, Renaud15000 . wrote: > Hello, I am contacting you because I am confronted with the impossibility to > install Linux on my computer because it has a 32-bit UEFI (without Legacy > BIOS mode, although the processor is an x64) and all distributions Linux > compatible EFI is 64-bit. My computer is a netbook Packard Bell easynote > ME69BMP. I saw on the internet that other computers now are emerging (such > as the HP Envy X2) with the same problem. > > That is why I ask you, as a user of Linux, develop a version of Debian > UEFI-compatible 32-bit. In the hope of one day being able to install Linux > on my netbook. > > Thank you. It seems that, correct me if I'm wrong, that Intel are not providing linux support on certain cpus. Maybe check Intel website or email them to confirm one way or the other. -- rob -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/caozwb-pzw8qgx2mpd2anaa4rqv77vbez1fwp64xjkjyxtqb...@mail.gmail.com
Re: grub efi does not find windows
On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 5:55 PM, wrote: > Le 06.02.2014 22:09, Tom H a écrit : >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 8:56 AM, wrote: >>> Le 05.02.2014 13:53, Tom H a écrit : # gdisk /dev/sda ... Command (? for help): i Partition number (1-2): 1 Partition GUID code: C12A7328-F81F-11D2-BA4B-00A0C93EC93B (EFI System) ... "C12A7328-..." is a unique UID that corresponds to the ESP; and, AIUI, is the way that the firmware identifies the ESP. >>> >>> >>> Here it is, but as you said, things seems to no longer be here: >>> >>> Command (? for help): i >>> Partition number (1-11): 1 >>> Partition GUID code: EBD0A0A2-B9E5-4433-87C0-68B6B72699C7 (Microsoft >>> basic >>> data) >>> ... >>> >>> Things are more or less the same for all partitions, except that some >>> partitions are "linux swap" or "linux filesystem". >>> >>> And I can see no "(EFI System)" anywhere. >> >> I don't understand where your original ESP was but we'll never know... > > Since you ( or someone else, I'm not sure) said that it can only be on > FAT32, then it must have been on the FAT partition dedicated to HP tools. I > was really surprised when I have seen a FAT partition, to be honest, but I > only thought that it may be for people which does not use windows... Yes I > know, it's stupid... maybe it was there, but in that case, what the hell is > the interest of a 1GB NTFS partition? I'll know this when I'll have another > HP computer with a working windows to tinker with, I guess. Since then, I'll > have to learn how to integrate a pure Debian system into a pure MS network. > I guess it's not that bad, at least I'll learn new stuff about my favorite > system, and new things about system administration. I prefer to drink into a > glass which is half full than half empty ;) I'd mentioned that AFAIK the ESP had to have a fat filesystem (although Apple's hacked EFI to accept an hfsplus filesystem!). You're probably right about the original ESP, although the "HP_TOOLS" label is less than obvious. If you haven't wiped sda1 and sda2, you might still be able to boot into Windows; copy a colleague's or friend's "\EFI\Microsoft\Boot\bootmgfw.efi" to your computer to "/boot/efi/EFI/Microsoft/Boot/bootmgfw.efi" then either use efibootmgr to create a firmware entry for it or boot to your firmware and load it from there. The Windows equivalent of grub.cfg is on sda1 and it _should_ be found and loaded by bootmgfw.efi. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/CAOdo=szp8xh_xpyduumep4upwrydosvew+-o6xm6twejwsz...@mail.gmail.com
RE: d-i partion size defaults insufficient (was ... Re: upgrade problem)
> Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2014 14:25:47 +1100 > From: scott.ferguson.debian.u...@gmail.com > To: debian-user@lists.debian.org > Subject: Re: d-i partion size defaults insufficient (was ... Re: upgrade > problem) > > On 07/02/14 14:07, Chris Bannister wrote: >> CC'ing debian-boot >> >> Seems as though Roelof is now in space trouble. >> He says he followed the d-i's suggestions >> Thread starts here: >> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2014/02/msg00269.html >> >> On Thu, Feb 06, 2014 at 01:08:39PM +, Roelof Wobben wrote: Was that the default partitioning layout suggested by the installer? >>> >>> Yes, it is. >> >> Not too good is it. Now look at the situation you are in. I think I've >> been bitten by that in the past. >> >> It seems strange why more people aren't being affected by this, though. >> I notice that you only have 85M free under / which includes /lib. e.g. root@tal:~# du -h /lib/modules/ | tail -n 3 81M /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae/kernel 84M /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-686-pae 84M /lib/modules/ What does yours say? >>> >>> 127M /lib/modules/3.12-1-amd64/kernel >>> 130M /lib/modules/3.12-1-amd64 >>> 130M /lib/modules/ >> >> Ouch! >> So that 85M you have free is the problem. Have you got any old kernels installed which you could purge? root@tal:~# ls -alh /lib/modules/ total 20K drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Oct 4 16:22 . drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 12K Dec 28 20:52 .. drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4.0K Jun 21 2013 3.2.0-4-686-pae >>> >>> Nope, unfortunately not. >> >> Have you tried Scott's suggestion of using deborphan (provides orphaner) >> to see if you can free up some room? Although, I think you'll be lucky to >> free up the required amount. > > Agreed. Though I'd try the following first just to check:- > $ deborphan -sz Did not work. Still the same problem. > Another possibility is to re-mount (or bind) /lib somewhere with more space How can I do that ? Roelof -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: http://lists.debian.org/dub121-w433a9d04b24b4cc5527289ae...@phx.gbl
