Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

[Chris Bannister]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 01:29:04AM -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> Brian  writes:
> 
> > On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
> >
> >> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
> >> now.
> >
> > It should be after what follows::)
> >
> > In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a
> > crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost.
> 
> >mail.messagingengine.com::587
> >
> 
> There is no mention of satellite or internet in the file you cited
> above. Perhaps you mean exim4.conf.template?


Maybe that should be when you do:
# dpkg-reconfigure update-exim4.conf.conf


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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 09:59:40PM -0500, John Hasler wrote:
> Joel Rees writes:
> > The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside...
> 
> Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
> trackers blocked.

It's probably easier to use https://startpage.com/ :-)

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Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

[Harry Putnam]

Brian  writes:

> On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:
>
>> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
>> now.
>
> It should be after what follows::)
>
> In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a
> crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost.

>mail.messagingengine.com::587
>

There is no mention of satellite or internet in the file you cited
above. Perhaps you mean exim4.conf.template?




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Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

[Harry Putnam]

Brian  writes:

Darac Marjal wrote:
>> For exim,
>> http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/
>> suggests to set the smarthost to "mail.messagingengine.com::587" (when
>> using debconf) and to add a new routing driver. Probably easiest to just
>> read that page for the information you require, replacing smtp.gmail.com
>> with mail.messagingengine.com as appropriate.

> No new routing driver requires adding with either gmail or fastmail.
> gmail also accepts authenticated mail on port 25 whereas fastmail
> refuses connections on that port.

Sorry Brian, but even with really good hints I've managed to be
confused about something here.  Are you saying above that none of the
editing recommended in above cited URL:
http://www.manu-j.com/blog/wordpress-exim4-ubuntu-gmail-smtp/75/

is really needed?  Just follow the edits you mention?




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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Richard Hector]

On 24/05/14 12:27, Jerry Stuckle wrote:
> So, where is it storing files now?  Just because they aren't in /tmp
> doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes.

Except that if they're in the 'normal' place (/var/lib/php5), there's
probably a cronjob (/etc/cron.d/php5) to clean up the stale ones.

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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[John Hasler]

Joel Rees writes:
> The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside...

Google search works just fine with all ads, cookies, scripts, and
trackers blocked.
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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Joel Rees]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 10:31 AM, Tony Baldwin  wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:54:37AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
>> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Tony Baldwin  wrote:
>> > Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office.
>> > I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not 
>> > write to disk).
>> > df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of 
>> > inodes.
>> > I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like
>> > sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3
>> > in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute.
>> > [...]
>>
>> Does searching the web for "sess files" produce any meaningful results?
>>
>> https://www.google.com/search?q=sess+files
>
> You must have meant
> https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sess+files

Let's see what the ducking guys give me.

Hmm. Looks a bit different.

> And, nope, nothing useful.

I must say, unless the region the searches are being performed from
have specific significant effects, you didn't find anything I would
expect to be useful with your search.

The question of how evil google is/was/is becoming aside, the only
search site I find myself avoiding is bing. But I even go there
sometimes.

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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Tony Baldwin]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 09:54:37AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Tony Baldwin  wrote:
> > Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office.
> > I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not 
> > write to disk).
> > df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of 
> > inodes.
> > I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like
> > sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3
> > in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute.
> > [...]
> 
> Does searching the web for "sess files" produce any meaningful results?
> 
> https://www.google.com/search?q=sess+files

You must have meant 
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=sess+files

And, nope, nothing useful.

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Re: friends laptop, no mic found

[Chris Bannister]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 06:13:17AM -0400, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> 
> I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know

... that it depends on their size?

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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Joel Rees]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 8:29 AM, Tony Baldwin  wrote:
> Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office.
> I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not write 
> to disk).
> df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of 
> inodes.
> I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like
> sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3
> in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute.
> [...]

Does searching the web for "sess files" produce any meaningful results?

https://www.google.com/search?q=sess+files

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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 5/23/2014 8:05 PM, Tony Baldwin wrote:

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 07:29:37PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:

Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office.
I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not write to 
disk).
df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of 
inodes.
I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like
sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3
in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute.
They can't be session files for users on my sites on the box, as there is only 
1 user, me
(I have one redmatrix hub, one dokuwiki, one scuttle, one piwigo, and mail with 
postfix/dovecot running on the box,
I am the only user on the wiki, redmatrix, piwigo, and scuttle installations, 
this is basically all for personal use).
Most of these sess files are empty files (thus, occupying inodes without occupying 
"physical" disk space).
The few (maybe 5%) that are not empty appear to have something to do with a 
dokuwiki on the server
(the content mentions file paths to dokuwiki pages, like this:
DW68700bfd16c2027de7de74a5a8202a6f|a:1:{s:2:"bc";a:2:{s:5:"start";s:5:"start";s:9:"hax:tdict";s:5:"tdict";}}
 ).
Now this little "server" (formerly a desktop) has been running in this office 
with a dokuwiki on it for 4 years,
(running squeeze, initially, then lenny, and now wheezy) and I never had this 
problem until yesterday.

I have not updated the dokuwiki in months, but I've run regular aptitude 
updates, in fact,
I believe I did so within 48 hours prior to this becoming an issue.
I installed the dokuwiki with Andreas' install script, not from the debian pkg.
Scuttle was installed from the debian pkg.
Piwigo was installed from upstream sources.
Redmatrix was installed from the upstream sources (github, I don't think it's 
even in Debian, yet, but should be).

How do I figure what is causing apache to write these files, why, and how to 
knock it off?



I found that /etc/apache2/php5.ini had session.save_path set to "/tmp".
I rent a server from contabo, where this line is commented out, so I
commented it out here on the little home server.
No more sess files are being written to /tmp.
I'm trying to figure out why this variable was different on the two
servers, and why I would ever have changed it on either one (I do not
recall doing so).
I can't help but wonder if a recent update in something...but updates
shouldn't edit my config files without asking me about that first,
right?
The whole root and cause of this is still a mystery to me, but, at the
moment, at least I see no more superfluous files being written to the
/tmp directory and occupying inodes.
Everything still seems to be functioning normally on the sites and mail.
Seemingly, the problem is resolved. I suppose if not, something will
become apparent soon enough to indicate as much.


Thanks,
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So, where is it storing files now?  Just because they aren't in /tmp 
doesn't mean they don't exist - and won't eventually use up your inodes.


I can't see how changing the directory would cause a change in when/how 
the files are created - and occupying inodes.


I suspect you have a problem somewhere else, and by changing the 
directory all you're doing is hiding it.


Jerry


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Re: rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Tony Baldwin]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 07:29:37PM -0400, Tony Baldwin wrote:
> Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office.
> I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not write 
> to disk).
> df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of 
> inodes.
> I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like
> sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3
> in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute.
> They can't be session files for users on my sites on the box, as there is 
> only 1 user, me
> (I have one redmatrix hub, one dokuwiki, one scuttle, one piwigo, and mail 
> with postfix/dovecot running on the box,
> I am the only user on the wiki, redmatrix, piwigo, and scuttle installations, 
> this is basically all for personal use).
> Most of these sess files are empty files (thus, occupying inodes without 
> occupying "physical" disk space).
> The few (maybe 5%) that are not empty appear to have something to do with a 
> dokuwiki on the server
> (the content mentions file paths to dokuwiki pages, like this:
> DW68700bfd16c2027de7de74a5a8202a6f|a:1:{s:2:"bc";a:2:{s:5:"start";s:5:"start";s:9:"hax:tdict";s:5:"tdict";}}
>  ).
> Now this little "server" (formerly a desktop) has been running in this office 
> with a dokuwiki on it for 4 years,
> (running squeeze, initially, then lenny, and now wheezy) and I never had this 
> problem until yesterday.
> 
> I have not updated the dokuwiki in months, but I've run regular aptitude 
> updates, in fact,
> I believe I did so within 48 hours prior to this becoming an issue.
> I installed the dokuwiki with Andreas' install script, not from the debian 
> pkg.
> Scuttle was installed from the debian pkg.
> Piwigo was installed from upstream sources.
> Redmatrix was installed from the upstream sources (github, I don't think it's 
> even in Debian, yet, but should be).
> 
> How do I figure what is causing apache to write these files, why, and how to 
> knock it off?
> 

I found that /etc/apache2/php5.ini had session.save_path set to "/tmp".
I rent a server from contabo, where this line is commented out, so I
commented it out here on the little home server.
No more sess files are being written to /tmp.
I'm trying to figure out why this variable was different on the two
servers, and why I would ever have changed it on either one (I do not
recall doing so).
I can't help but wonder if a recent update in something...but updates
shouldn't edit my config files without asking me about that first,
right?
The whole root and cause of this is still a mystery to me, but, at the
moment, at least I see no more superfluous files being written to the
/tmp directory and occupying inodes.
Everything still seems to be functioning normally on the sites and mail.
Seemingly, the problem is resolved. I suppose if not, something will
become apparent soon enough to indicate as much.

> Thanks,
> Tony
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rapidly proliferating sess files in /tmp, eating inodes

[Tony Baldwin]

Yesterday I could not log into a site on a little server here in my office.
I ssh-ed to the box, and found that the "disk is full" (thus could not write to 
disk).
df -h showed nothing of the sort, but df -i showed that / was 100% full of 
inodes.
I'v e since found that apache2 is writing files with names of a nature like
sess_908H908NF90821089HGARBleddygo0KH3r3
in /tmp at a rate of about 20 or 30 files/minute.
They can't be session files for users on my sites on the box, as there is only 
1 user, me
(I have one redmatrix hub, one dokuwiki, one scuttle, one piwigo, and mail with 
postfix/dovecot running on the box,
I am the only user on the wiki, redmatrix, piwigo, and scuttle installations, 
this is basically all for personal use).
Most of these sess files are empty files (thus, occupying inodes without 
occupying "physical" disk space).
The few (maybe 5%) that are not empty appear to have something to do with a 
dokuwiki on the server
(the content mentions file paths to dokuwiki pages, like this:
DW68700bfd16c2027de7de74a5a8202a6f|a:1:{s:2:"bc";a:2:{s:5:"start";s:5:"start";s:9:"hax:tdict";s:5:"tdict";}}
 ).
Now this little "server" (formerly a desktop) has been running in this office 
with a dokuwiki on it for 4 years,
(running squeeze, initially, then lenny, and now wheezy) and I never had this 
problem until yesterday.

I have not updated the dokuwiki in months, but I've run regular aptitude 
updates, in fact,
I believe I did so within 48 hours prior to this becoming an issue.
I installed the dokuwiki with Andreas' install script, not from the debian pkg.
Scuttle was installed from the debian pkg.
Piwigo was installed from upstream sources.
Redmatrix was installed from the upstream sources (github, I don't think it's 
even in Debian, yet, but should be).

How do I figure what is causing apache to write these files, why, and how to 
knock it off?

Thanks,
Tony
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Re: KDE locks up periodically

[Gary Dale]

On 23/05/14 11:50 AM, filip wrote:

On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:30:26 -0400
Gary Dale  wrote:


On 23/05/14 09:37 AM, Christopher Judd wrote:

On Thursday, May 22, 2014 05:45:26 PM Gary Dale wrote:


I'm running Debian/Jessie on an AMD64 system. The problem I'm
having is
that every several minutes or so, KDE lock ups.
It doesn't totally freeze but applications might get slow or even
stop
responding entirely for a minute or two. Dolphin is particularly
bad. It
seems to lock up the longest. However even a game like kreversi
doesn't
respond for a period. The mouse responds, as does keyboard input
in
konsole, but sometimes even Kicker (or whatever they're calling
the
launch bar these days) stops responding.
Iceweasel and Icedove also stop responding when the system all
but

locks.


I've checked Top and Iotop but nothing seems to be causing
excessive
disk or cpu activity. Even virtuoso, which has been implicated in
some
slowdowns, seems to be behaving itself. Killing it doesn't help.
I've been working in Gnome for the last half hour without
incident, so
It's probably not a hardware or network issue. However, I prefer
KDE and
would like to get back to it.
Any ideas?

I don't have any idea what is causing this, but I have KDE setup
with six virtual desktops. When an application freezes (Opera or
Dolphin, usually), switching desktops and returning generally fixes
it. It doesn't happen nearly as often as you describe, however,
maybe a few times a day.



Thanks Chris, but it's not the same problem. Switching virtual
desktops has no effect in my case. And the lockup appear to be
periodic - about every 10 - 15 minutes, lasting a minute or two.

There also appears to be continuous disk activity at the time, but
iotop doesn't show any particular application hogging the disk.
Interestingly, I can launch kreversi and it will often appear on the
desktop while this is happening, but I won't be able to make a move
in it until the lockup the finishes. However, top also doesn't show
any unusual cpu activity.

I had been suspecting a hardware or network issue (I had a similar
problem twice recently - once resolved by reducing my nfs share
connections and the other by replacing a network switch), but this
time switching to Gnome from KDE corrected the problem. Since I have
the same applications running (including dolphin and kontact) plus an
extra terminal (to launch konsole) over the same number of desktops,
this indicates that it is something in the kde desktop environment.



If you create a new user, and run everything with the defaults, do
you still have those lockups ?


No. Of course, Iceweasel has no tabs open and Icedove has no accounts to 
check. Kontact has no data, etc..


When I run the same applications under Gnome using my regular account 
things also work.


I'm also running setiathome through boinc in the background, but it 
appears to be behaving itself.


While potentially moving all my data and settings to new account (one at 
a time until something breaks) could either cure the problem or identify 
where it is, it's a lot of work and may not fix anything (in fact I'll 
probably break things just trying it).


I'm hoping someone can suggest a tool to identify whatever is acting up. 
As I said, top and iotop don't seem to show anything wrong.



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Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[Chris Angelico]

On Sat, May 24, 2014 at 6:42 AM, Joe Pfeiffer  wrote:
> Tom Roche  writes:
>
>> Lisi Reisz Fri, 23 May 2014 17:10:49 +0100
>>> "box" is a verb, so I found it confusing.
>>
>> You are indeed confused. As a native speaker of English, I can assure
>> you, 'box' is both noun and verb.
>> Also, having been "in computing" in the US for decades, I can assure
>> you, 'box' as a noun is widely used to refer to informatic devices
>> generically.
>
> While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box'
> as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun.  Speaking as another native
> speaker, it took me two passes to read what was intended there.

Tip for future writers: If it might be ambiguous, tag the noun with an
article. "The box ethernets..." is unambiguously noun-then-verb; "Box
the ethernets..." is unambiguously verb-then-noun.

But this is off topic and I'm probably about to get told off for posting.

ChrisA


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Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[Joe Pfeiffer]

Tom Roche  writes:

> Lisi Reisz Fri, 23 May 2014 17:10:49 +0100
>> "box" is a verb, so I found it confusing.
>
> You are indeed confused. As a native speaker of English, I can assure
> you, 'box' is both noun and verb.
> Also, having been "in computing" in the US for decades, I can assure
> you, 'box' as a noun is widely used to refer to informatic devices
> generically.

While you are correct, the sentence structure leads one to expect 'box'
as a verb and 'ethernets' as a noun.  Speaking as another native
speaker, it took me two passes to read what was intended there.


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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

[The Wanderer]

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On 05/23/2014 03:44 PM, Filip wrote:

> On Fri, 23 May 2014 18:37:35 +0200 Wim Bertels
>  wrote:
> 
>> Hallo,
>> 
>> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
>> presentation
>> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)
>> 
>> eg ideally as simple as:
>> $ programX -r media/
>> would show them in a random order
>> 
>> where /media
>> has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures
> 
> feh does it for images.
> 
> $ feh -r -z -D 10 Pictures/

So does qiv:

$ qiv -s -r -d 10 images/

But the question was about how to do this for a mixed slideshow of
images and videos, and these solutions aren't enough for that purpose.

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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

[Filip]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 18:37:35 +0200
Wim Bertels  wrote:

> Hallo,
> 
> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
> presentation
> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)
> 
> eg ideally as simple as:
> $ programX -r media/
> would show them in a random order
> 
> where /media
> has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures
> 
> mvg,
> Wim
> 
> 

feh does it for images.

$ feh -r -z -D 10 Pictures/



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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

[The Wanderer]

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On 05/23/2014 12:37 PM, Wim Bertels wrote:

> Hallo,
> 
> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a 
> presentation (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)
> 
> eg ideally as simple as:
> $ programX -r media/
> would show them in a random order
> 
> where /media has a tree subdir structure containing movies and
> pictures

The first thing I'd think of for trying to do something like this is moosic.

Despite its name, moosic isn't a music player; it's a
playlist-management program. You can configure it with any desired
"player" or "viewer" program for a given file extension, so you can get
it to e.g. invoke MPlayer for video files and qiv (or suchlike) for
image files.

If you also run it in loop mode, when it reaches the end of the
(potentially shuffled) playlist, it will go back to the beginning and
start over.

The two problems I haven't found solutions for yet are:

* Although moosic can shuffle the playlist into random order on demand,
it doesn't seem to contain an option to do so automatically, e.g. when
reaching the end of the playlist in loop mode. (However, since it's
written in Python and - from what I remember last time I looked at it,
which was years ago - seems to be relatively modular, it might not be
too hard to add such a behavior.)

* The way moosic detects when to move on and "play" a new item is by
watching when the program it invoked for playing the previous item
exits. With video and audio files this works fine, since they generally
have a fixed duration (default-loop formats like IT and XM aside) and
the players can be told to automatically exit when finished playing, but
image files don't. To make such a random slideshow progress
automatically using moosic, you would need an image viewer which can be
told to "display the image for X seconds, then exit". I don't know if
any such exist.

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Design Création

[thiboutpaul]

Merci de lire ce courriel au format HTML.

Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Filip]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 06:57:15 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I wish to set up my home headless power pc box as a gateway/router
> ( GW ). I can connect to it with SSH only.
> 
> Before, I set up this GW to get an IP address from my ISP with
> dhcp.client.
> 
> Now, I ask a static IP address for this GW and don't know how to setup
> eth0 interface so I can connect to Internet from this GW and to
> forward Internet connection to my LAN.
> 
> My ISP
>   |
>   --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
> |
> LAN
> 
> This is my home network that I want to set up.
> 
> The state of this setup so far is that that I can SSH into GW only,
> but can't reach the Internet, and from LAN I can't reach Internet too.
> 
> Can I get advices how to setup my home network?
> 
> --
> Regards, from Paul
> 
> 

Are the ip adresses on your LAN publicly routable ? 
Probably not ?

You will need to set up network address translation to masquerade all
your internal traffic as coming from the public ip address assigned by
your ISP. This requires some trickery with iptables. You will need a
firewall too, anyway.

The shorewall documentation gives some guidelines on how this can be
done, and shorewall is more managable than manipulating iptables
directly. http://www.shorewall.net


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Re: media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

[Ralph Katz]

On 05/23/2014 12:37 PM, Wim Bertels wrote:
> Hallo,
> 
> does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
> presentation
> (mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)
> 
> eg ideally as simple as:
> $ programX -r media/
> would show them in a random order
> 
> where /media
> has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures
> 

In fact mplayer plays a show of animated .gif images:

~$ mplayer *.gif

Then you may start with tools you have in debian to find more options:
~$ apt-cache search slideshow |wc -l
29

I notice that libreoffice (for powerpoint slides) and imagemagick are
not found with that search, but I use the latter for slideshows, for
example:

~$ display -delay 100 media/*.jpg

Certainly others will chime in with their favorites.  Have fun!

Ralph



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Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 23 May 2014 18:34:15 Tom Roche wrote:
> You are indeed confused. As a native speaker of English, I can assure you,
> 'box' is both noun and verb.

No, I am not confused.  I was trying not be verbose and overdid it.  Box IS a 
verb.  It is also a noun.  Ethernet uis a noun.  In English English it is not 
a verb.  If I am faced with two words, one of whixch at least has to be a 
verb, I initially automatically choose the one that is a verb.  In this case 
that did not make sense and I had to track back.

Lisi


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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[csanyipal]

Ron Leach  writes:

> On 23/05/2014 16:52, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
>> csanyi...@gmail.com writes:
>>
>>> So I tried with this setup:
>>> iface eth0 inet static
>>>   address 217.17.111.173
>>>   netmask 255.255.255.0
>>
>> but it doesn't work.
>>
>> Say, the output of the command 'ping gnu.org' is:
>> ping: unknown host gnu.org
>>
> My ISP
>|
>--- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
>  |
>  LAN
>
>>
>> The LAN part of my home network works, I have setup a DHCPD server for
>> eth1 interface. I can connect from LAN to my GW with SSH client.
>>
>
> That reply is reporting a DNS failure - its causes could be
> various. Is basic connectivity working, at all, beyond the GW?  Here's
> how to find out.
>
> I suggest, instead, that you try:
>
> ping 8.8.8.8
>
> which is Google's DNS service machine.
>
> Report back if you can ping.  Include reports back when trying from
> (a) the GW device, and
> (b) a LAN device

When ping 8.8.8.8 from:

a) GW device
connect: Network is unreachable

b) LAN device
ping -c 3 8.8.8.8
PING 8.8.8.8 (8.8.8.8) 56(84) bytes of data.
>From 192.168.10.1 icmp_seq=1 Destination Net Unreachable
>From 192.168.10.1 icmp_seq=2 Destination Net Unreachable
>From 192.168.10.1 icmp_seq=3 Destination Net Unreachable

--- 8.8.8.8 ping statistics ---
3 packets transmitted, 0 received, +3 errors, 100% packet loss, time 1998ms

less /etc/resolv.conf
nameserver 91.102.231.242
nameserver 91.102.231.241

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Re: 'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[John Hasler]

Tom Roche writes:
> As a native speaker of English, I can assure you, box is both noun
> and verb.

As a native speaker of English I can assure you that every noun can be
verbed and every verb can be nouned.
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'box' as noun, was: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[Tom Roche]

Lisi Reisz Fri, 23 May 2014 17:10:49 +0100
> "box" is a verb, so I found it confusing.

You are indeed confused. As a native speaker of English, I can assure you, 
'box' is both noun and verb. 
Also, having been "in computing" in the US for decades, I can assure you, 'box' 
as a noun is widely used to refer to informatic devices generically.

FWIW, Tom Roche 


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Re: Spamhaus Blacklist

[Joe]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 09:15:07 -0400
Jerry Stuckle  wrote:

> On 5/23/2014 3:02 AM, Joe wrote:
> > On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:38:37 -0500
> > John Hasler  wrote:
> >
> >> Joe writes:
> >>> But you normally only get one spam at a time from one ISP, which
> >>> suggests they do spot the problem themselves fairly quickly...
> >>
> >> It suggests that the spammers are quite sophisticated in their use
> >> of their bots.
> >
> > These are the ones that make it through, meaning among other things
> > they come from an address with a proper A-PTR record pair.
> >
> 
> This depends entirely on how your MTA is set up.  Not all MTAs do 
> reverse domain lookups (they are relatively long time consuming and
> can slow down mail processing, especially on a busy system).

I'm not an ISP, my record for rejections in one 24 hour period is just
over 12,000, which isn't a heavy load. These days I'm getting a couple
of hundred a day, plus about the same in legitimate email.

>  But
> even when they do, most systems nowadays have A-PTR records, even if
> they are in the form of "pool-1-1-168-192.example.com".

While many ISPs provide PTR records of this type, not that many create
matching A records. I know that some do, as a few of the spams that
make it to my email client have these generic hostnames. Another common
SMTP server requirement is to require a HELO to be resolvable in public
DNS, this one catches quite a few. The spammers who send my IP address
as their HELO (oh, yes they do...) are pretty easy to spot.
> 
> > My rejectlog shows addresses trying several times an hour for days,
> > and these are mostly domestic users. Presumably most mail servers
> > reject these, and complaints aren't raised as quickly.
> >
> 
> That's just the sender's MTA retrying the request, and has nothing to
> do with the spammer.  The spammer probably only sent one message.
> Chances are the messages are rejected because they're already on
> someone's blacklist.  Eventually the originating MTA gives up.
> 
>
But the sender doesn't have an MTA, it is a malware SMTP engine. I
really doubt that any spammers are currently uploading a proper MTA to
hacked domestic computers, which is where pretty much all my
SMTP-rejected spam comes from.

If it was a proper MTA, it would never retry after a hard rejection at
the RCPT stage, it would pass back the error message to the sender.

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Re: Iceweasel and DRM

[Ric Moore]

On 05/23/2014 03:33 AM, Zenaan Harkness wrote:

Please continue on d-community-offtopic.

...and, it's more fun there. :) Ric


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media 'slideshow': movies + pictures

[Wim Bertels]

Hallo,

does anyone know a free program to display pictures and movies as a
presentation
(mplayer and vlc don't seem to do that)

eg ideally as simple as:
$ programX -r media/
would show them in a random order

where /media
has a tree subdir structure containing movies and pictures

mvg,
Wim


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Re: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[Lisi Reisz]

On Friday 23 May 2014 12:36:55 Brian wrote:
> > Tom Roche Thu, 22 May 2014 15:08:36 -0400
> >
> > >> summary: box ethernets via wire, but all wireless fails, including
> > >> known-good providers: `ifconfig -a` shows a wireless IP#, but
> > >> `nslookup` fails. How to fix or debug?
>
> I was thrown by the use of 'ethernet' as a verb

Yes - and "box" is a verb, so I found it confusing.

Lisi


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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Curt]

On 2014-05-23, csanyi...@gmail.com  wrote:
> csanyi...@gmail.com writes:
>
>> So I tried with this setup:
>> iface eth0 inet static
>>  address 217.17.111.173
>>  netmask 255.255.255.0
>
> but it doesn't work.

I don't know anything about it, but it seems something is missing here like

gateway?

dns servers (/etc/resolv.conf)?



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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Mike McGinn]

Comments below
On Friday, May 23, 2014 11:52:43 csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:
> csanyi...@gmail.com writes:
> > So I tried with this setup:
> > iface eth0 inet static
> > 
> >  address 217.17.111.173
> >  netmask 255.255.255.0
> 
> but it doesn't work.
I built a gateway / router / vpn / firewall at work using Debian Squeeze. The 
first thing I noticed is that you did not define a gateway for eth0. That 
could be your problem. This is normally defined for you by the dhcp server, so 
you would have not needed it before, but you probably need it now.

Mike

> 
> Say, the output of the command 'ping gnu.org' is:
> ping: unknown host gnu.org
> 
> >>> My ISP
> >>> 
> >>>   --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
> >>>   
> >>> LAN
> 
> The LAN part of my home network works, I have setup a DHCPD server for
> eth1 interface. I can connect from LAN to my GW with SSH client.
> 
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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Ron Leach]

On 23/05/2014 16:52, csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

csanyi...@gmail.com writes:


So I tried with this setup:
iface eth0 inet static
  address 217.17.111.173
  netmask 255.255.255.0


but it doesn't work.

Say, the output of the command 'ping gnu.org' is:
ping: unknown host gnu.org


My ISP
   |
   --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
 |
 LAN



The LAN part of my home network works, I have setup a DHCPD server for
eth1 interface. I can connect from LAN to my GW with SSH client.



That reply is reporting a DNS failure - its causes could be various. 
Is basic connectivity working, at all, beyond the GW?  Here's how to 
find out.


I suggest, instead, that you try:

ping 8.8.8.8

which is Google's DNS service machine.

Report back if you can ping.  Include reports back when trying from 
(a) the GW device, and

(b) a LAN device

regards, Ron


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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[csanyipal]

csanyi...@gmail.com writes:

> So I tried with this setup:
> iface eth0 inet static
>  address 217.17.111.173
>  netmask 255.255.255.0

but it doesn't work.

Say, the output of the command 'ping gnu.org' is:
ping: unknown host gnu.org

>>> My ISP
>>>   |
>>>   --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
>>> |
>>> LAN
>>>

The LAN part of my home network works, I have setup a DHCPD server for
eth1 interface. I can connect from LAN to my GW with SSH client.

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Re: KDE locks up periodically

[filip]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 11:30:26 -0400
Gary Dale  wrote:

> On 23/05/14 09:37 AM, Christopher Judd wrote:
> >
> > On Thursday, May 22, 2014 05:45:26 PM Gary Dale wrote:
> >
> > > I'm running Debian/Jessie on an AMD64 system. The problem I'm
> > > having is
> >
> > > that every several minutes or so, KDE lock ups.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > It doesn't totally freeze but applications might get slow or even
> > > stop
> >
> > > responding entirely for a minute or two. Dolphin is particularly
> > > bad. It
> >
> > > seems to lock up the longest. However even a game like kreversi
> > > doesn't
> >
> > > respond for a period. The mouse responds, as does keyboard input
> > > in
> >
> > > konsole, but sometimes even Kicker (or whatever they're calling
> > > the
> >
> > > launch bar these days) stops responding.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Iceweasel and Icedove also stop responding when the system all
> > > but 
> > locks.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I've checked Top and Iotop but nothing seems to be causing
> > > excessive
> >
> > > disk or cpu activity. Even virtuoso, which has been implicated in
> > > some
> >
> > > slowdowns, seems to be behaving itself. Killing it doesn't help.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > I've been working in Gnome for the last half hour without
> > > incident, so
> >
> > > It's probably not a hardware or network issue. However, I prefer
> > > KDE and
> >
> > > would like to get back to it.
> >
> > >
> >
> > > Any ideas?
> >
> > I don't have any idea what is causing this, but I have KDE setup
> > with six virtual desktops. When an application freezes (Opera or
> > Dolphin, usually), switching desktops and returning generally fixes
> > it. It doesn't happen nearly as often as you describe, however,
> > maybe a few times a day.
> >
> >
> Thanks Chris, but it's not the same problem. Switching virtual
> desktops has no effect in my case. And the lockup appear to be
> periodic - about every 10 - 15 minutes, lasting a minute or two.
> 
> There also appears to be continuous disk activity at the time, but
> iotop doesn't show any particular application hogging the disk.
> Interestingly, I can launch kreversi and it will often appear on the
> desktop while this is happening, but I won't be able to make a move
> in it until the lockup the finishes. However, top also doesn't show
> any unusual cpu activity.
> 
> I had been suspecting a hardware or network issue (I had a similar 
> problem twice recently - once resolved by reducing my nfs share 
> connections and the other by replacing a network switch), but this
> time switching to Gnome from KDE corrected the problem. Since I have
> the same applications running (including dolphin and kontact) plus an
> extra terminal (to launch konsole) over the same number of desktops,
> this indicates that it is something in the kde desktop environment.
> 
> 

If you create a new user, and run everything with the defaults, do
you still have those lockups ?


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Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

[filip]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 10:08:56 -0400
Steve Litt  wrote:

> On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> 
> > On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote:
> > > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. 
> > 
> > If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very
> > interested.
> > 
> > Kind regards,
> > Andrei
> 
> Well, I mean, if lightness is your sole priority, drop all the way
> back to fvwm2. It would probably run on a 16MB 286. I think you'd
> need to run X without a window manager to get lighter than fvwm2.
> 
> As far as practical interfaces for serious desktop work, I wonder if
> OpenBox is lighter weight than LXDE? If so, *highly* recommend
> OpenBox: It's wonderful. Here's some documentation I wrote about it:
> 
> http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/openbox/index.htm
> 
> SteveT
> 
> 

Openbox works very well. It's not a complete desktop environment of
course, just one component, so you will need to pick and choose the
applications to make it a workable environment. Which is actually a
good thing because the application that are part of a desktop
environment are usually somewhat poor.

You can run tint2 to provide replace the taskbar/system tray/desktop
pager functionality.

feh to set the root window to a nice background image.

xfe is a fast and easy to use file manager (not based on Gtk or Qt, and
not even on Fltk but on the somewhat unknown Fox toolkit)

wmctrl is a very useful tool to use in rc.xml for fast fast switching
between applications:

For example: 

  
 wmctrl -x -a "emacs.Emacs"
  


Switches to the desktop where emacs is running, and focuses the window
in one keypress.


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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[csanyipal]

Curt  writes:

> On 2014-05-23, Pascal Hambourg  wrote:
>
>>> Do you mean that eth0 on GW has a static IP address?
>>
>> No, the OP wrote that internet-facing eth0 has a DHCP address from the ISP.
>
> I understood that *before* he had a DHCP address from his ISP, but *now*
> he has a static address (only mentioning what he had before to sow
> confusion in the ranks :-)).

Exactly.

> Or perhaps he had it working before, with the dynamic ip address, but not now,
> with the static one.

Exactly.


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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[csanyipal]

Hi Vincent,

"Vincent W. Chen"  writes:

> On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 9:57 PM,   wrote:
>> I wish to set up my home headless power pc box as a gateway/router ( GW ).
>> I can connect to it with SSH only.
>>
>> Before, I set up this GW to get an IP address from my ISP with
>> dhcp.client.

Before eth0 had dynamically assigned IP addresses that it get from my
ISP with dhcp3.client. Now I don't have dhcp3 client installed on GW. I
removed it.

>> Now, I ask a static IP address for this GW and don't know how to setup
>> eth0 interface so I can connect to Internet from this GW and to forward
>> Internet connection to my LAN.
>>
> Do you mean that eth0 on GW has a static IP address? If so, you
> probably have to modify /etc/network/interfaces for eth0, e.g.

Yes, I mean that now, eth0 has a static IP address, that is:
217.17.111.173 specifically assigned to MAC address of eth0 interface.
My ISP set this up on his side. At home, I have only a Cable modem. To
this Cable Modem is connected the GW ( my headless power pc box ) with
eth0 interface. I don't have ( I think ) IPv6.

So I tried with this setup:
iface eth0 inet static
 address 217.17.111.173
 netmask 255.255.255.0

> iface eth0 inet static
> address 192.168.0.1
> netmask 255.255.255.0
>
> # If you have IPv6
> iface eth0 inet6 static
> address ::1
> netmask 64
>
> Change the IP address / netmask to your own.
>
>> My ISP
>>   |
>>   --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
>> |
>> LAN
>>
>> This is my home network that I want to set up.
>>
>> The state of this setup so far is that that I can SSH into GW only, but
>> can't reach the Internet, and from LAN I can't reach Internet too.
>>
>> Can I get advices how to setup my home network?
>>
> You have to allow forwarding from your LAN to the outside internet. In
> /etc/sysctl.conf, enable
>
> net.ipv4.ip_forward=1

I have this already set.

> # If you have IPv6
> net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1
>
> There may be other options in /etc/sysctl.conf that you'd want to
> change. Read the associated comments and manpages.
>
> If you are setting up a gateway, you might want to look into the
> firewall iptables/ip6tables. The standard procedure is to drop all
> packets, allowing only specific ones to pass through.

I'm using Shorewall on my GW ( headless power pc ).

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Re: KDE locks up periodically

[Gary Dale]

On 23/05/14 09:37 AM, Christopher Judd wrote:


On Thursday, May 22, 2014 05:45:26 PM Gary Dale wrote:

> I'm running Debian/Jessie on an AMD64 system. The problem I'm having is

> that every several minutes or so, KDE lock ups.

>

> It doesn't totally freeze but applications might get slow or even stop

> responding entirely for a minute or two. Dolphin is particularly bad. It

> seems to lock up the longest. However even a game like kreversi doesn't

> respond for a period. The mouse responds, as does keyboard input in

> konsole, but sometimes even Kicker (or whatever they're calling the

> launch bar these days) stops responding.

>

> Iceweasel and Icedove also stop responding when the system all but 
locks.


>

> I've checked Top and Iotop but nothing seems to be causing excessive

> disk or cpu activity. Even virtuoso, which has been implicated in some

> slowdowns, seems to be behaving itself. Killing it doesn't help.

>

> I've been working in Gnome for the last half hour without incident, so

> It's probably not a hardware or network issue. However, I prefer KDE and

> would like to get back to it.

>

> Any ideas?

I don't have any idea what is causing this, but I have KDE setup with 
six virtual desktops. When an application freezes (Opera or Dolphin, 
usually), switching desktops and returning generally fixes it. It 
doesn't happen nearly as often as you describe, however, maybe a few 
times a day.



Thanks Chris, but it's not the same problem. Switching virtual desktops 
has no effect in my case. And the lockup appear to be periodic - about 
every 10 - 15 minutes, lasting a minute or two.


There also appears to be continuous disk activity at the time, but iotop 
doesn't show any particular application hogging the disk. Interestingly, 
I can launch kreversi and it will often appear on the desktop while this 
is happening, but I won't be able to make a move in it until the lockup 
the finishes. However, top also doesn't show any unusual cpu activity.


I had been suspecting a hardware or network issue (I had a similar 
problem twice recently - once resolved by reducing my nfs share 
connections and the other by replacing a network switch), but this time 
switching to Gnome from KDE corrected the problem. Since I have the same 
applications running (including dolphin and kontact) plus an extra 
terminal (to launch konsole) over the same number of desktops, this 
indicates that it is something in the kde desktop environment.



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Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 23 mai 14, 10:08:56, Steve Litt wrote:
> On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300
> Andrei POPESCU  wrote:
> 
> > On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote:
> > > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. 
> > 
> > If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very
> > interested.
> 
> Well, I mean, if lightness is your sole priority, drop all the way back
> to fvwm2. It would probably run on a 16MB 286. I think you'd need to run
> X without a window manager to get lighter than fvwm2.

I specifically wrote "DE".
 
> As far as practical interfaces for serious desktop work, I wonder if
> OpenBox is lighter weight than LXDE? If so, *highly* recommend OpenBox:

LXDE is a merely a collection of applications that can actually be used 
independently. Guess what WM it uses...

Kind regards,
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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Curt]

On 2014-05-23, Pascal Hambourg  wrote:

>> Do you mean that eth0 on GW has a static IP address?
>
> No, the OP wrote that internet-facing eth0 has a DHCP address from the ISP.

I understood that *before* he had a DHCP address from his ISP, but *now*
he has a static address (only mentioning what he had before to sow
confusion in the ranks :-)).

Or perhaps he had it working before, with the dynamic ip address, but not now,
with the static one.


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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Steve Litt]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 06:57:15 +0200
csanyi...@gmail.com wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I wish to set up my home headless power pc box as a gateway/router
> ( GW ). I can connect to it with SSH only.
> 
> Before, I set up this GW to get an IP address from my ISP with
> dhcp.client.
> 
> Now, I ask a static IP address for this GW and don't know how to setup
> eth0 interface so I can connect to Internet from this GW and to
> forward Internet connection to my LAN.
> 
> My ISP
>   |
>   --- eth0 ( GW ) --- eth1
> |
> LAN
> 
> This is my home network that I want to set up.
> 
> The state of this setup so far is that that I can SSH into GW only,
> but can't reach the Internet, and from LAN I can't reach Internet too.
> 
> Can I get advices how to setup my home network?

Here's how I did it:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/pf/index.htm

After Heartbleed, I temporarily switched to pfSense
(https://www.pfsense.org/), and that's also working very well. As a
matter of fact, right now I'm receiving this email, via ssh, through a
port-forward in that router/firewall.

I like Linux for a lot of things, but when it comes to firewalling,
I'll pick pf over iptables every time.

SteveT


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Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

[Steve Litt]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 12:46:14 +0300
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote:
> > The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. 
> 
> If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very
> interested.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

Well, I mean, if lightness is your sole priority, drop all the way back
to fvwm2. It would probably run on a 16MB 286. I think you'd need to run
X without a window manager to get lighter than fvwm2.

As far as practical interfaces for serious desktop work, I wonder if
OpenBox is lighter weight than LXDE? If so, *highly* recommend OpenBox:
It's wonderful. Here's some documentation I wrote about it:

http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/openbox/index.htm

SteveT


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Re: Need advice about an error messange that worries me in Wheezy [solved]

[Paul E Condon]

On 20140523_0733+0200, Sven Joachim wrote:
> On 2014-05-23 00:41 +0200, Paul E Condon wrote:
> 
> > Under Wheezy, every time I print a document I get and error message which
> > reads verbatim:
> >
> > p11-kit: couldn't load module:
> > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so:
> > /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkcs11/gnome-keyring-pkcs11.so: cannot open
> > shared object file: No such file or directory
> 
> Bug #712306[1] suggests that this happens if you have uninstalled, but
> not purged, the gnome-keyring package.

Good suggestion. The problem is fixed. 

Thankyou.

> 
> Cheers,
>Sven
> 
> 
> 1. https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=712306
> 
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Re: KDE locks up periodically

[Christopher Judd]

On Thursday, May 22, 2014 05:45:26 PM Gary Dale wrote:
> I'm running Debian/Jessie on an AMD64 system. The problem I'm having is
> that every several minutes or so, KDE lock ups.
> 
> It doesn't totally freeze but applications might get slow or even stop
> responding entirely for a minute or two. Dolphin is particularly bad. It
> seems to lock up the longest. However even a game like kreversi doesn't
> respond for a period. The mouse responds, as does keyboard input in
> konsole, but sometimes even Kicker (or whatever they're calling the
> launch bar these days) stops responding.
> 
> Iceweasel and Icedove also stop responding when the system all but locks.
> 
> I've checked Top and Iotop but nothing seems to be causing excessive
> disk or cpu activity. Even virtuoso, which has been implicated in some
> slowdowns, seems to be behaving itself. Killing it doesn't help.
> 
> I've been working in Gnome for the last half hour without incident, so
> It's probably not a hardware or network issue. However, I prefer KDE and
> would like to get back to it.
> 
> Any ideas?

I don't have any idea what is causing this, but I have KDE setup with six 
virtual 
desktops.  When an application freezes (Opera or Dolphin, usually), switching 
desktops and returning generally fixes it.  It doesn't happen nearly as often 
as 
you describe, however, maybe a few times a day.

-Chris

Christopher Judd, Ph. D.
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Re: Spamhaus Blacklist

[Jerry Stuckle]

On 5/23/2014 3:02 AM, Joe wrote:

On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:38:37 -0500
John Hasler  wrote:


Joe writes:

But you normally only get one spam at a time from one ISP, which
suggests they do spot the problem themselves fairly quickly...


It suggests that the spammers are quite sophisticated in their use of
their bots.


These are the ones that make it through, meaning among other things
they come from an address with a proper A-PTR record pair.



This depends entirely on how your MTA is set up.  Not all MTAs do 
reverse domain lookups (they are relatively long time consuming and can 
slow down mail processing, especially on a busy system).  But even when 
they do, most systems nowadays have A-PTR records, even if they are in 
the form of "pool-1-1-168-192.example.com".



My rejectlog shows addresses trying several times an hour for days, and
these are mostly domestic users. Presumably most mail servers reject
these, and complaints aren't raised as quickly.



That's just the sender's MTA retrying the request, and has nothing to do 
with the spammer.  The spammer probably only sent one message.  Chances 
are the messages are rejected because they're already on someone's 
blacklist.  Eventually the originating MTA gives up.


Jerry


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Re: Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Chris Angelico]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:22 PM, Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda
 wrote:
> Chris Angelico wrote:
>> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan  
>> wrote:
>>> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
>>> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
>>> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good enough
>>> for me.
>>
>> Wheezy has an 'unrar' package in non-free. If you've added non-free to
>> your sources.list, you should be able to install it just fine.
>>
>> ChrisA
>
> That rar program is not free software. You will be better using UNAR
> instead to uncompressing .rar files, and compressing your files in
> better formats like TAR.GZ, BZ2, ZIP, 7ZIP.

I'm aware that rar/unrar aren't free, but wasn't aware of unar until
this thread.

I don't actually make rar files, though, only extract those made by
others. It's not the best format, but I've used all manner of
different unarchivers in the past (arj and arc come to mind!).

ChrisA


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Re: Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Hudson Flavio Meneses Lacerda]

Chris Angelico wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan  
> wrote:
>> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
>> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
>> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good enough
>> for me.
> 
> Wheezy has an 'unrar' package in non-free. If you've added non-free to
> your sources.list, you should be able to install it just fine.
> 
> ChrisA

That rar program is not free software. You will be better using UNAR
instead to uncompressing .rar files, and compressing your files in
better formats like TAR.GZ, BZ2, ZIP, 7ZIP.

Hudson


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Re: GPT and SSDs

[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh]

On Fri, 23 May 2014, Andrei POPESCU wrote:
> On Mi, 21 mai 14, 10:25:08, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> > While slightly wasteful, in practice you don't want to fill up an SSD
> > anyway, and as a group they work best with no more than 75% of the disk
> > filled with data.
> 
> Various materials I've been reading seem to suggest
> 
> s/filled with data/partitioned/

Any SSD worth the materials wasted in its build will be filesystem-agnostic
and allocate on write, so what it really needs for extra head-room is
sectors you don't write to.

It doesn't matter whether the no-write-zone comes from free space in a
filesystem that doesn't keep shuffling data around just for the heck of it,
or unpartitioned space.

And you only benefit from it on devices where the overprovisioning was not
adequate, or when you need it to last a lot longer than what it was
specified for (useful only for SLC and MLC-based devices.  If it is TLC, use
it and use it hard, because that crap doesn't last and it degrades even from
reading).

Note that this does not apply to USB flash sticks, and SD cards.  For those,
all bets are off, and the crapiest ones only do wear-leveling on a small
area of the drives so you shouldn't even repartition them, let alone change
the FAT32 filesystem layout (size/number of FAT tables, etc).  Exceptions
are the far more expensive SLC-based devices for long-term archival.

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Re: friends laptop, no mic found -[SOLVED]

[Rodney D. Myers]

under pavucontrol -> configuration

When selecting a device, I was not checking the correct one.

I compared my hp laptop with the friends, and I was never selecting the
"stereo duplex" option

Popped that into the laptop this AM, and suddenly everything work.

Thank you all

On Thu, 22 May 2014 10:47:25 -0400
"Rodney D. Myers"  wrote:

> A friend got fed up with windos, and I have Debian Testing on his
> laptop right now.  Everything, except noted below works great. The
> only problem I am running into is with Skype, and having it not find
> mic found. I'm told it worked under windos.
> 
> Below are the outputs of dmesg & lspci.
> 
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Re: no longer sound on amd64 sid systems

[Elimar Riesebieter]

* Paul  [2014-05-23 13:09 +0200]:

[...]
> /That just gets me
> root@debianHP:/usr/lib/pd-extended/extra# modprobe -v snd-hda-intel
> insmod /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/sound/pci/hda/snd-hda-codec.ko
> ERROR: could not insert 'snd_hda_intel': Invalid argument

please post the output of:

root@debianHP: find /lib/modules -name 'snd-hda*'

> /
> >>
[...]
> options snd_hda_intel model=laptop
> #options snd_hda_intel index=0 model=auto

Remove those entries.

> //I recently made that change to model=laptop on the advice of someone else
> on this forum AFAIR.
> 
> //
> /
> >
> >No, please do
> >
> ># echo "options snd-hda-intel model=dell" >> /etc/modprobe.d/local.conf
> /I don't want to put dell of course as this is and HP machine, what is the
> recognized identifier in this case?
> And why would it make any difference just now if that line is in some other
> .conf file?

Read this:
> >
> >as alsa-base.conf will be purged in Jessie. You can choose a filename
> >as you want but with the extension .conf.

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Re: wireless can DHCP but not DNS?

[Brian]

On Thu 22 May 2014 at 20:03:13 -0400, Tom Roche wrote:

> Tom Roche Thu, 22 May 2014 15:08:36 -0400
> >> summary: box ethernets via wire, but all wireless fails, including
> >> known-good providers: `ifconfig -a` shows a wireless IP#, but
> >> `nslookup` fails. How to fix or debug?

I was thrown by the use of 'ethernet' as a verb and my scanning of the
very long lines (which I have wrapped) was a failure. :)
 
> And in fact the symlink I had made (more below) was gone:

You do not need to make the symlink - resolvconf does it for you when it
installs.

> And restoring the symlink restores my ability to DNS on other networks
> (other than wired to my own switch):

Confusing. I thought you were saying a wired connection works but
wireless doesn't.

> me@NewBox ~ $ date ; sudo ln -sf /etc/resolvconf/run/resolv.conf 
> /etc/resolv.conf

This is unnecessary. I think I would purge and reinstall resolvconf and
see whether it does make the link itself.


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Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Peter Teunissen]

On 23 mei 2014, at 12:39, Muhammad Yousuf Khan  wrote:

> 
> 
> 
> please tell me how can i install rar (only).
> 
> Thanks,
> 

It’s in the non-free repo: https://packages.debian.org/stable/utils/rar

Simply add non-free to your /etc/apt/source.list: 'deb 
http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy non-free’

… and install rar.

Done.

HTH


> 
> 
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico  wrote:
> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU
>  wrote:
> > On Vi, 23 mai 14, 13:10:36, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
> >> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
> >> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good
> >> enough for me.
> >
> > See if 'unar' (not a typo) helps.
> 
> Thanks for that tip, Andrei! I just installed and tested it. While
> unrar does work, I'm happier to use something from 'main' than from
> 'non-free' :)
> 
> ChrisA
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Re: FSF condemns partnership between Mozilla and Adobe to support Digital Restrictions Management

[Jeff Bauer]

On 05/22/2014 09:14 PM, Steve Litt wrote:

On Tue, 20 May 2014 00:17:06 +1200
Richard Hector  wrote:



And in the case where the copyright has elapsed? The main point,
rather than my additional comment?

Richard


Few of us will be alive when Jerry's works go out of copyright, given
that even if he died this very day, his copyrights would expire in 70
years. So why worry about that? A lot can happen between then and now.

If you don't like that ridiculous copyright period, blame the guys who
think they're perfectly in their rights to do unauthorized copying and
distribution. They make Disney and Bono look downright virtuous, and
dilute the credibility of those of us who want to change copyright
period (and maximum damages) to sane amounts (and time periods).

SteveT




Kinda/sorta related, but well worth the time to watch:

Patent Absurdity: how software patents broke the system 



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Re: Anyone using exim with fastmail.fm's smtp server as smart host?

[Brian]

On Thu 22 May 2014 at 22:43:37 -0400, Harry Putnam wrote:

> I'll be back at it in 2wks or so.. I suspect it will be pretty simple
> now.

It should be after what follows::)

In update-exim4.conf.conf change 'satellite' to 'internet'. There is a
crucial addition to make to dc_smarthost.

   mail.messagingengine.com::587

Edit /etc/exim4/password.client to have

   mail.messagingengine.com:user@domain:password

Only you know what user and domain you signed up to fastmail with.


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Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Muhammad Yousuf Khan]

ok guyz sharing you two outputs. unrar is failing and not extracting many
files out of one archive. however rar is doing the job for me. therefore
for future i only wanted to use rar non unrar. please see the behaviour of
both command with same archive.

/tmp# unrar -x CSR.rar

unrar 0.0.1  Copyright (C) 2004  Ben Asselstine, Jeroen Dekkers


Extracting from /tmp/CSR.rar

Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/a.gif Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/icon_star_3.gif Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/icon_thumbdown.gif OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/icon_thumbsup.gif OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/index.css Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/index.jpg Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/index.php Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/kayako-logo-blue.png OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/newsfeed.js Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS1.JPG Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS2.JPG Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS3.JPG Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS5.JPG Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS7x-4.png Failed
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software.htm Failed




/tmp# rar x CSR.rar

RAR 3.93   Copyright (c) 1993-2010 Alexander Roshal   15 Mar 2010
Shareware version Type RAR -? for help


Extracting from CSR.rar

CreatingCSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/a.gif  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/icon_star_3.gif  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/icon_thumbdown.gif  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/icon_thumbsup.gif  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/index.css  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/index.jpg  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/index.php  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/kayako-logo-blue.png  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/newsfeed.js  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS1.JPG  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS2.JPG  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS3.JPG  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS5.JPG  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software_files/ssl-IIS7x-4.png  OK
Extracting  CSR Generation  Microsoft IIS 7.x - Powered by Kayako Help Desk
Software.htm  OK
All OK


please tell me how can i install rar (only).

Thanks,



On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 1:59 PM, Chris Angelico  wrote:

> On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU
>  wrote:
> > On Vi, 23 mai 14, 13:10:36, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> >> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now
> i
> >> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my
> Debian
> >> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good
> >> enough for me.
> >
> > See if 'unar' (not a typo) helps.
>
> Thanks for that tip, Andrei! I just installed and tested it. While
> unrar does work, I'm happier to use something from 'main' than from
> 'non-free' :)
>
> ChrisA
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Re: friends laptop, no mic found

[Rodney D. Myers]

On Fri, 23 May 2014 13:00:35 +0300
Andrei POPESCU  wrote:

> On Jo, 22 mai 14, 10:47:25, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> > A friend got fed up with windos, and I have Debian Testing on his
> > laptop right now.  Everything, except noted below works great. The
> > only problem I am running into is with Skype, and having it not
> > find mic found. I'm told it worked under windos.  
>  
> Try playing with the controls in alsamixer, also the ones for
> "Capture" (press F4).

alsamixer, alsamuxergui, pavucontrol. they show no mic

> > Below are the outputs of dmesg & lspci.  
> 
> Please don't copy-paste them in the message but use something like
> 
> dmesg > dmesg.txt
> 
> and attach the dmesg.txt file. This will ensure line breaks are 
> preserved.
> 
> Kind regards,
> Andrei

I always thought this mail list stripped attachments. I now know

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Re: friends laptop, no mic found

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 22 mai 14, 10:47:25, Rodney D. Myers wrote:
> A friend got fed up with windos, and I have Debian Testing on his
> laptop right now.  Everything, except noted below works great. The only
> problem I am running into is with Skype, and having it not find mic
> found. I'm told it worked under windos.
 
Try playing with the controls in alsamixer, also the ones for "Capture" 
(press F4).

> Below are the outputs of dmesg & lspci.

Please don't copy-paste them in the message but use something like

dmesg > dmesg.txt

and attach the dmesg.txt file. This will ensure line breaks are 
preserved.

Kind regards,
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Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 21 mai 14, 18:10:30, Horatio Leragon wrote:
> 
> Does "fluxbox" come with regular security updates?

http://www.debian.org/security/faq

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Re: want to revert back to gnome classic mode.

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 21 mai 14, 08:58:00, Joe wrote:
> The other medium-weight DE is LXDE. 

If there is an even lighter weight DE than LXDE I'd be very interested.

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Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Chris Angelico]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, Andrei POPESCU
 wrote:
> On Vi, 23 mai 14, 13:10:36, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
>> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
>> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
>> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good
>> enough for me.
>
> See if 'unar' (not a typo) helps.

Thanks for that tip, Andrei! I just installed and tested it. While
unrar does work, I'm happier to use something from 'main' than from
'non-free' :)

ChrisA


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Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Vi, 23 mai 14, 13:10:36, Muhammad Yousuf Khan wrote:
> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good
> enough for me.

See if 'unar' (not a typo) helps.

Kind regards,
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Re: Setting up a home gateway/router

[Pascal Hambourg]

Vincent W. Chen a écrit :
> 
> Do you mean that eth0 on GW has a static IP address?

No, the OP wrote that internet-facing eth0 has a DHCP address from the ISP.

> # If you have IPv6
> iface eth0 inet6 static
> address ::1
> netmask 64

Nonsense. ::1 is for the loopback interface only.
If you have IPv6, use your own global prefix.

If you meant ::1 as an example, note that there is an IPv6 prefix
dedicated to examples and documentation : 2001:db8::/32.

> You have to allow forwarding from your LAN to the outside internet. In
> /etc/sysctl.conf, enable
> 
> net.ipv4.ip_forward=1
> # If you have IPv6
> net.ipv6.conf.all.forwarding=1

You'll probably need to do masquerading for IPv4 with iptables.

iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE.

You could also set up a DHCP and DNS server on the gateway to make
configuration easier on the LAN hosts. dnsmasq is reported to be easy.


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Re: GPT and SSDs

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Mi, 21 mai 14, 10:25:08, Efraim Flashner wrote:
> 
> While slightly wasteful, in practice you don't want to fill up an SSD
> anyway, and as a group they work best with no more than 75% of the disk
> filled with data.

Various materials I've been reading seem to suggest

s/filled with data/partitioned/
 
> What mount options do you have for your SSD mounted partitions? I
> vacilate on putting discard in mine, but currently I just have relatime

relatime is default since Linux 2.6.30

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Re: problems with ntp syncronization in wheezy

[Andrei POPESCU]

On Jo, 22 mai 14, 09:29:52, Leonardo Cuyar Morales wrote:
> I don't use ntp.conf, I set the ntp servers addresses in "NTPSERVERS" 
> option in /etc/default/ntpdate. I saw today that after a whole day my 
> host got synchronized, that's the reason I still like my old 
> ntpdate/cron scheme. Once I set it, I get synchronization right away. 
> I could do this by stopping ntpd or I could use ntpd and before 
> starting it do an old fashion "ntpdate $local_net_ntpserver" in 
> command line.

Recent ntpd (i.e. wheezy) synchronises just fine on start, you should 
give it a try.

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Re: Rar for debian wheezy

[Chris Angelico]

On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 6:10 PM, Muhammad Yousuf Khan  wrote:
> i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
> can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
> wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good enough
> for me.

Wheezy has an 'unrar' package in non-free. If you've added non-free to
your sources.list, you should be able to install it just fine.

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Rar for debian wheezy

[Muhammad Yousuf Khan]

i some how installed a rar binary which is working in my old system now i
can not back track how i installed it.i want that to install in my Debian
wheezy desktop as i am receving many rar files. and unrar is not good
enough for me.

by the way just sharing that old version having rar is Squeeze and i am
using new version on desktop which is debian 7.




~# dpkg -s rar
Package: rar
Status: install ok installed
Priority: optional
Section: non-free/utils
Installed-Size: 1156
Maintainer: Martin Meredith 
Architecture: amd64
Version: 2:3.9.3-1
Suggests: unrar
Conffiles:
 /etc/rarfiles.lst f7f45aed82c9b18337389cf453289c92
Description: Archiver for .rar files
 This is the RAR archiver from Eugene Roshal. It supports multiple volume
 archives and damage protection. It can also create SFX-archives. There are
 versions which run on DOS, Windows (3.1x,95,NT), FreeBSD, BSDI.

~# apt-cache policy rar
rar:
  Installed: 2:3.9.3-1
  Candidate: 2:3.9.3-1
  Version table:
 *** 2:3.9.3-1 0
100 /var/lib/dpkg/status

Re: Iceweasel and DRM

[Zenaan Harkness]

Please continue on d-community-offtopic.

Thanks
Zenaan


On 5/23/14, Steve Litt  wrote:
> On Sun, 18 May 2014 22:31:18 -0400
> Jerry Stuckle  wrote:
>
>
>> > ...
>>  Copyright violations are rampant on the web.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thank you for refraining from calling that piracy.
>> >>
>> >> OK, since you insist, I'll call it what it is - piracy.
>> >
>> > I didn't think you were _such_ a contrarian. Proved me wrong.
>> >
>>
>> I'm not.  What you describe is piracy.
>>
>> > You're also firmly aligned with copyright industry rhetoric. Oh
>> > well, I seriously thought you were above that...
>> >
>>
>> Unlike you, I am not above the law.  And I have created intellectual
>> property in the past which is copyrighted (unlike you, obviously).
>> And I protect my copyrights.
>
> Don't bother arguing with these idiots Jerry. I'll bet you dollars to
> donuts they never took the time to write, edit, format, produce, and
> market a 100K word book to help them feed their children. They probably
> have salary jobs, and if they get laid off, they get unemployment.
>
> Here's the thing Jerry: With all their yelling, I never once heard any
> of these 150 decibel anti-DRM clowns promise not to give or sell a copy
> of an author's work to someone else. I'm not talking about right of
> first sale, which I assume they know nothing about, I'm talking about
> buying (or grabbing from a torrent) a copy of somebody's work, keeping
> it, but making copies of it and giving the copies to others. After all,
> according to them, once they bought it, they can do anything they want
> with it, right?
>
> It's not their problem that Article 1, section 8, paragraph 8 of the
> US Constitution provides authors and inventors a limited time exclusive
> right to the author's or inventor's writings and discoveries. It's
> not their problem that copyright was a part of English law long before
> the US constitution was written. It's not their problem that copyright
> is part of the Berne convention, accepted and enforced by most modern
> nations.
>
> It's not these clowns' problem if someone spent between 3 and 18 months
> writing a book, in hope of feeding their children. It's not their
> problem if the author must compete with cheap or zero cost exact copies
> of the work he spent so long making, because the clowns are
> distributing copies like the autumn leaves. It's not their problem
> if the author's children don't eat. The clowns got theirs.
>
> It's kind of ironic, isn't it? If they don't like DRM (and who does?),
> they should blame those who unauthorizedly distribute (or possess
> unauthorized distributions). DRM was made to prevent these activities,
> due to high number of freeloaders wanting authors to write for free. If
> they don't like DMCA (and who does?), blame the unauthorized
> distributors. If they don't like the obscene life+70 copyright periods
> of many nations including the US, blame the unauthorized distributors,
> who ceded the moral high ground to Disney and Sonny Bono and that crowd
> by snatching money right out of authors' pocketbooks.
>
> Jerry, if the clowns who have been arguing with you had a single
> testicle between them, they'd do with Stallman does: Simply promise
> never to buy, procure, nor distribute, nonfree content. Stallman
> *never* makes unauthorized copies of nonfree content. But that's not
> their style: they whine about buying a book and then not being able to
> give copies to others: or at least they never forswore making copies and
> distributing to others.
>
> The sad thing is, Jerry, although I hate the fact that the US law
> provides for a judgment of $150K *per unauthorizedly obtained work*
> against those who unauthorizedly copy, or receive such copies, the
> arrogant disregard of stealing other peoples' opportunity to make money,
> and their pride in not knowing the law, make me hope it happens to them.
>
> They're clowns Jerry: ignore them.
>
> SteveT
> Steve Litt
> Author: Troubleshooting: Tools, Tips and Techniques
> Author: Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of the Successful Technologist
> Author: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
> Author: Quit Joblessness: Start Your Own Business
> Author: Rapid Learning For the 21st Century
> Author: Thriving in Tough Times
> Author: The Key to Everyday Excellence
> Author: Rules of the Happiness Highway
> All but the first two written and produced using Free Software
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Re: Spamhaus Blacklist

[Joe]

On Thu, 22 May 2014 18:38:37 -0500
John Hasler  wrote:

> Joe writes:
> > But you normally only get one spam at a time from one ISP, which
> > suggests they do spot the problem themselves fairly quickly...
> 
> It suggests that the spammers are quite sophisticated in their use of
> their bots.

These are the ones that make it through, meaning among other things
they come from an address with a proper A-PTR record pair.

My rejectlog shows addresses trying several times an hour for days, and
these are mostly domestic users. Presumably most mail servers reject
these, and complaints aren't raised as quickly.

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