RE: microkernels (I'm not a huge fan of systemd)
Hi, >Steve Litt wrote at 2014-07-11 11:21 -0500: >> A bizarre thought just popped into my head, in the form of a little >> voice. The little voice told me that if they guys who controlled the >> decision to go to systemd had been the decision makers in 1990, Linux >> would have a microkernel today. > > Regarding history and microkernels, this document about the reliability > features of Minix is very interesting: > > http://www.minix3.org/docs/jorrit-herder/osr-jul06.pdf Hmm, very nice to read. It proves that an inherent stable OS using a microkernel design is possible. And they even build and tested it in the wild. Bonno Bloksma
Re: System Temperature sensing
On 07/14/2014 07:58 PM, B wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:15:27 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: lm-sensors sometimes needs tweaking (formulas to get the right temperature(s)). My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A0-DS3. Are you sure about that, searching: gigabyte 970A0-DS3 doesn't return results (look at the silkscreen printing on your board; also take care to get the revision number). Ooops! An extra zero slipped in. That should be: Gigabyte 970A-DS3 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c4bcbc.8080...@gmail.com
Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED
On Monday, 14 July, 2014 11:21 PM, Ralph Katz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2014 09:09 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote: Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everything works fine there). I was just trying to use skype (Now ver. 4.3) on debian once again but this time from my wife's debian user account. Surprisingly, microphone works just fine from her account i checked skype setting, pulse audio setting, looks everything is identical to my own account... I just don't have no clue whatsoever what is the cause of this problem... Any thoughts, anyone? https://wiki.debian.org/skype may help. Skype 4.2.0.13 works for me on 64 bit debian wheezy using alsa and libpulse as described in the wiki. Here's another clue - Please post your reply below quoted text (bottom post) on this list; it's easier for us to follow. Regards, Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTw+cvAAoJECe2FpioHXO6CNsH/2GwMPTuJJdXsA1G8TGM9Oeh 00ZDutkArufg9FEKrDUnDoPIquci34KNaaBKb44wURBuHYivvejyqLN+CIKSFs++ D2T2hgPbxRQe4uh7Ii07ajqPOeVa5fYE93wrfNiAlzxcJvFzNVDez2CDrhSRvVed kQqkoAZD9O1fPvBBw5mM6QqUrXTUDuasSilii9vFEAIUsYR1Y5prSwhHm+v7w/vU gVnQM0pFQVsMQBfTRkOYBgMDQrWD11JSwU1au4Vf3ydZFaSEkTk5ePqLJwTDaBja FKCrQFHiuyFyf8XLIfYfOAh+K7yHG00PPDzrX/t8KCfM0wuYdsV5CjcIoG1/btE= =vpPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- I now have Skype ver. 4.3 installed and the support for ALSA has been dropped. Anyway, funny thing is that skype works just fine with microphone if i use from my wife's debian user account. I believe audio settings and skype settings are identical though M.W.C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c49b36.2060...@gmail.com
Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED
On Monday, 14 July, 2014 07:04 PM, Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 14 July 2014 02:09:25 Man_Without_Clue wrote: Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everything works fine there). I was just trying to use skype (Now ver. 4.3) on debian once again but this time from my wife's debian user account. Surprisingly, microphone works just fine from her account i checked skype setting, pulse audio setting, looks everything is identical to my own account... I just don't have no clue whatsoever what is the cause of this problem... Any thoughts, anyone? Is there a driver needed for the microphone? Is said driver missing? Lisi No. Microphone is working just fine. Sound recorder works with this microphone and also on audio panel, I can confirm the microphone is working. AND! for some reason skype works perfectly on my wife's debian user account M.W.C. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c49a89.4040...@gmail.com
Re: System Temperature sensing
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014, Marc Shapiro wrote: > The output for: > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +9.4°C (high = +70.0°C) >(crit = +90.0°C, hyst = +87.0°C) > however, seems troubling. The house thermostat says 75F, which would be > approximately 23.9C. I don't think that it is cooler inside my running > computer than it is in the house surrounding it. Can this be ignored, or is > this indicating a malfunctioning sensor? If it is malfunctioning, can anyone > tell me what sensor it is, and on what board, so I know what to replace? This is on the CPU itself, and if the documentation in https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/hwmon/k10temp is to be believed, it's not actually a physical temperature. Everything else looked OK to me, but if the machine isn't actually under load, it's hard do say anything useful. -- Don Armstrong http://www.donarmstrong.com Let the victors, when they come, When the forts of folly fall Find thy body by the wall! -- Matthew Arnold -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140715030054.gi9...@teltox.donarmstrong.com
Re: System Temperature sensing
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 19:15:27 -0700 Marc Shapiro wrote: lm-sensors sometimes needs tweaking (formulas to get the right temperature(s)). > My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A0-DS3. Are you sure about that, searching: gigabyte 970A0-DS3 doesn't return results (look at the silkscreen printing on your board; also take care to get the revision number). Then search for: lm-sensors gigabyte rev=N.NN > Can anyone tell me what the various temperatures are? The three > temperatures listed under: > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1:+34.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) > sensor = thermistor > temp2:+38.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) > sensor = thermal diode > temp3:+21.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) > sensor = thermal diode usually, you have: the mobo temp, the cpu temp and/or the cores temp; sometimes a Nth temp isn't relevant at all (more on older mobos). > seem to be perfectly in range for a system recently turned on, but > I don't know what is what. > > The output for: > k10temp-pci-00c3 > Adapter: PCI adapter > temp1: +9.4°C (high = +70.0°C) > (crit = +90.0°C, hyst = +87.0°C) may be the graphic card (surely need some tweaking;). try to change the sensors type in /etc/sensors3.conf to see if it is relevant (also check with the BIOS embedded temps). -- Syned : My brother discovering college --> "OMFG it's full of women. My boobs radar is being DDoS". signature.asc Description: PGP signature
System Temperature sensing
My system has been shutting itself down recently. Today it did so while my wife was using the computer and she reports that the box was "quite warm" above the power supply. She left the system powered down so I could check things out myself. When I got home I cleared a small amount of dust from one of the vents (side). The other vent (rear) was completely clear. When I powered up I verified that the power supply fan and the heatsink fan were both running. I ran sensors and got the following results: $:/home/marc# sensors fam15h_power-pci-00c4 Adapter: PCI adapter power1: 32.62 W (crit = 95.04 W) k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +9.4°C (high = +70.0°C) (crit = +90.0°C, hyst = +87.0°C) it8728-isa-0228 Adapter: ISA adapter in0: +0.96 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.06 V) in1: +1.49 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.06 V) in2: +1.99 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.06 V) +3.3V:+3.34 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.12 V) in4: +2.02 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.06 V) in5: +1.26 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.06 V) in6: +2.23 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +3.06 V) 3VSB: +3.41 V (min = +0.00 V, max = +6.12 V) Vbat: +3.36 V fan1:1454 RPM (min =0 RPM) fan2: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) fan3: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) fan5: 0 RPM (min =0 RPM) temp1:+34.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermistor temp2:+38.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermal diode temp3:+21.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermal diode intrusion0: OK My motherboard is a Gigabyte 970A0-DS3. Can anyone tell me what the various temperatures are? The three temperatures listed under: k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1:+34.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermistor temp2:+38.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermal diode temp3:+21.0°C (low = +127.0°C, high = +127.0°C) sensor = thermal diode seem to be perfectly in range for a system recently turned on, but I don't know what is what. The output for: k10temp-pci-00c3 Adapter: PCI adapter temp1: +9.4°C (high = +70.0°C) (crit = +90.0°C, hyst = +87.0°C) however, seems troubling. The house thermostat says 75F, which would be approximately 23.9C. I don't think that it is cooler inside my running computer than it is in the house surrounding it. Can this be ignored, or is this indicating a malfunctioning sensor? If it is malfunctioning, can anyone tell me what sensor it is, and on what board, so I know what to replace? Any help appreciated. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c48ebf.9010...@gmail.com
Re: ip address on dhcp client
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 22:33:11 +0530 rajiv chavan wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:53:06 +0530 > - Hide quoted text - > rajiv chavan wrote: > > > Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:26:20 +0530 > > > > Thank you Mett. > > Traceroute packets from another host dropped by ISP netwoek at > > 218.248.0.0 > > > > >netstat -rn > > > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window > > irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U > > 0 0 0 ppp0 117.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 > > U 0 0 0 eth0 117.222.8.1 0.0.0.0 > > 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 127.0.0.0 > > 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo > > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 > > 0 0 eth0 224.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 > > U 0 0 0 eth0 > > > > ifconfig eth0:0 yields: > > >ip a > > > > 2: eth0: > > link/ether > > inet 192.168.1.2/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 > > inet 117.222.15.189/8 brd 117.255.255.255 scope global eth0:0 > > 3: ppp0: > > link/ppp > > inet 117.222.15.189 peer 117.222.8.1/32 scope global ppp0 > > > > This is a lone host - no network. > > Address 117.222.15.189 does not map to modem-router. Nmap on modem > > returns ports 23,80,5431 open. All ports on 117.222.15.189 filtered. > > The state may not be reproducible. Oftentiimes eth0 gets only > > 192.168.1.2 address (which can be pinged ),and ppp0 does not exist. > > > > > > On 7/14/14, mett wrote: > > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:31:43 +0530 > > > rajiv chavan wrote: > > > > > >> Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:34:41 +0530 > > >> > > >> ip a output on an adsl+ (pppoe) client: > > >> =snip= > > >> 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc > > >> pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 > > >> inet 192.168.1.2/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 > > >> 3: ppp0: mtu 1460 qdisc > > >> pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 3 > > >> link/ppp > > >> inet 117.222.15.189 peer 117.222.8.1/32 scope global ppp0 > > >> =snip= > > >> Can ping 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.1 but not 117.222.15.189 nor > > >> 192.168.1.2 tcpdump on eth0 detcts pppoe packets from > > >> 117.222.15.189 to hosts except 192.168.1.1-2 > > >> nmap reports 117.222.15.189 ip but all posrt 1-1000 filtered. > > >> > > >> > > > > > > Hi, > > > > > > Everything is on the same interface? > > > I don't think Eth0 can be routing for your local network and at > > > the same time become ppp0 and route for a global network. > > > I think you'll need some kind of subinterfaces if you want to use > > > only one physical interface for your local network and the outside > > > one. > > > > > > Maybe try a traceroute and you'll see where the packets are going. > > > Also, check the routes(netstat -nr or route -ne). > > > > > > You might give a try one by one to see at what point it stops > > > working: -try only the local network first and once it's working > > > try to set up your pppoe link. > > > > > > hth > > > > > > > > > -- > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > > Archive: > > > https://lists.debian.org/20140714091211.3c1fd4cd@asus.tamerr > > > > > > > > No prob, > by the way, better to answer to the list than PM to my address, > as sby who might have same problem can see this thread and benefit of > the info as well. > > Also, on this mailing list, generally you post down the thread, > like this other persons reading the thread can get an idea of the > whole thing, easily by scrolling down. > > Regarding the issue, if this is a lone host and you are not NATing, > one easy way of trblshooting would be : > -no manual ip address at all on eth0 > -no manual routes as well, > -then run pppoeconf, it's quite straight forward and tells you if it > finds an aggregator on your ISP side. > > With the following top. > > PCmodem-Internet > > > Did you try to set up route manually, as I can see many routes under > netstat -nr ? > > By the way, I never tried with subinterfaces on same phy for outside > and inside, but I don't understand why you have a route for > multicast(224 smtg) and also a route for the 117.0.0.0 network and > at the same time one for 192.168, all that on eth0. > Even if eth0 is showing eth0:0, I don't think you need a route for > 117.0.0.0., neither one for multicast(224). > > Try to remove them and see what happened but would be better, faster > and easier to just run pppoeconf with an eth0 interface without any IP > address. > > Also, I was talking about traceroute from your host to outside. > If it doesn't go anywhere, you will be sure the problem is on your > side. > > Also, you said your host is alone, no network but eth0 on 192.168.1.2 > can be pinged. I don't understand how that is possible. > > > As a ref, I paste mine down here > # netstat -nr > Kernel IP routing table > Destination Gateway G
Backing up to encrypted Blu-rays
Hi all, I just wrote the following documentation on backing up to encrypted Blu-rays: http://troubleshooters.com/lpm/201408/201408.htm When your backup discs are encrypted, offsite backups are much safer. Everything in the documentation applies equally to dvd backups. Hope you enjoy it. Thanks, SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714212018.4a6c0...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Debian on Intel NUC?
I have been asked if there are any issues running Debian Stable on one of the newer Intel NUC hardware. Something like this. Intel NUC i5 Intel HD Graphics 5000 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16856102054 I don't have any experience with this hardware yet. My search fu is failing me looking for postings to determine if this is a supported system or not. I decided I would ask here. In the end I will probably just need to get one and try it. Does anyone have something like this running Debian? Any problems? * Graphics? This has the Intel HD Graphics 5000. * UEFI? * USB 3.0 ports? As a side question does anyone know if it is possible to use both the display port and the hdmi for a dual monitor configuration? Or a monitor plus projector configuration? Thanks, Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On 14/07/14 03:04 PM, Richard Lyons wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 13:37:39 -0400, Doug wrote: On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which uses Ubuntu software. I am tempted by the Epson WorkForce range -- but past experience with ink-jet printers makes me suspicious. In periods of low use, don't the nozzles clog? They say the inks are water resistant, but dont sweaty or moist hands smudge the print? And most importantly, do the colours survive a few months pinned on the wall, or does daylight bleach them? If you have found they run under Mint, it is a good sign that they will work under Debian. richard I've used Epson Photo printers for a long time. I find the inks are good but they do run when wet. Casual handling is OK but don't leave them out in the rain (e.g. flyers posted on utility poles). If you want stability under wet conditions, you need a laser printer. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c46f38.1090...@torfree.net
Re: Time in Emacs status bar
Johann Spies wrote: > When emacs show the time in the status bar, the time zone is not correct. Is it correct when you ask for it directly? What is this output? $ date $ date -R Do you have TZ set? echo $TZ > I have tried to correct it by putting this in ~/.emacs: > > (set-time-zone-rule "GMT+2") > (setq display-time-day-and-date t > display-time-24hr-format t) > (display-time) I suggest fixing it at the system level not in each application. There are too many applications to play fixup with each one individually. (And I am also an emacs user.) > But for example the time now is 16:00 in our time zone but emacs shows > 12:00. > > How do I convince emacs to use the same time zone info as the system? If you have TZ set then I would unset it and fix the system. (The TZ variable is useful when sharing a remote system with multiple users in different timezones.) unset TZ To fix it reconfigure the tzdata package. Select your timezone. # dpkg-reconfigure tzdata Bob signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On 07/14/2014 03:04 PM, Richard Lyons wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 13:37:39 -0400, Doug wrote: On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which uses Ubuntu software. I am tempted by the Epson WorkForce range -- but past experience with ink-jet printers makes me suspicious. In periods of low use, don't the nozzles clog? They say the inks are water resistant, but dont sweaty or moist hands smudge the print? And most importantly, do the colours survive a few months pinned on the wall, or does daylight bleach them? If you have found they run under Mint, it is a good sign that they will work under Debian. richard I'm afraid I might have misled you. I DID need to install a printer driver from Epson, after which it prints everything, including the scanned image. It does not need a scanner driver--XSane is smart enough to take care of that. The Epson drivers are available in .deb and .rpm formats. When you go to Firefox, specify Epson Linux drivers, and go to Epson--the other listed source is way obsolete. I haven't put any of the prints up on the wall, but there is a photo that has been sitting out face up on a table in the room with my computers for at least 3 months, and I don't see any deterioration. Ordinary handling of printouts has not caused any smearing that I have noticed. I am very happy with the color, and there are a whole batch of adjustments available if you don't like how it looks, but I haven't touched any of them. I think I have heard of some archival quality inks, but I have never investigated that. I imagine the price is prohibitive. I use ONLY Epson inks. Some years ago I had to throw out an inkjet printer after I used some off-brand ink in it and it clogged up the jets and I couldn't get to them to clean them. (I also use only HP toner in my LaserJet for similar reasons.) I have copied color photos with the scanner and printer with excellent results. The printer is now available from Epson for $109, free shipping! (I just looked it up.) There must be a newer model coming out. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c46b95.4070...@optonline.net
Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/14/2014 01:36 PM, Bret Busby wrote: > On 14/07/2014, Ralph Katz wrote: >> https://wiki.debian.org/skype may help. Skype 4.2.0.13 works for me >> on 64 bit debian wheezy using alsa and libpulse as described in the wiki. >> > > Thank you for that URL. > > I was not previously aware of the web page existence. > > Neither was I aware of Debian packages being available for Skype, > after the ones for Skype v2.2 (Beta), which is what I have on Debian > 6. > > I have also Linphone and Ekiga installed on Debian 6, but Skype 2.2, > is the only videocalling software that I could get working. > > And, with my Skype 2.2, I, on my Debian 6 installation, have been able > to successfully communicate with other people running Skype on both MS > Windows and Linux. > Bret, just note that skype 4 won't work properly with pidgin-skype for IMs https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=681745 Glad it helped. Regards, Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTxEeXAAoJECe2FpioHXO6+FsH/2JW1VRpn63+Z8VntCMBqeWK FpImlhgHaqIYbGJsfYc/G7GVxNLPF94vC8WxCjpru9JZ2M9Ji2zwP1WMXNvOoy2y kiFKLwgFNMER4PItbhPB0fqDSGbpTheN7SsHgEkgt0uXFnr7t4nYb3A/kgVn9Sml 2DRgcsxDqs3yQy26piueS2SgcPAryeVFZhBuWGs+CWMgklIXoRxUn4J7SgX3km5a h1AIxtdekSE6lTVl/WYg6cMCKzjBzynvkbua0v+8SLRuTbnWo8xuf7squRaL/KYB hBNRFSauanCa0a1eiYRczJmy0gbnSC4SxiRfIFOnKPmyLSYEVnLcN/AUIc+bs4A= =vLfN -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c447a6.5020...@rcn.com
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 13:37:39 -0400, Doug wrote: > > On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: > I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 > multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in > PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which uses Ubuntu software. I am tempted by the Epson WorkForce range -- but past experience with ink-jet printers makes me suspicious. In periods of low use, don't the nozzles clog? They say the inks are water resistant, but dont sweaty or moist hands smudge the print? And most importantly, do the colours survive a few months pinned on the wall, or does daylight bleach them? If you have found they run under Mint, it is a good sign that they will work under Debian. richard -- Richard Lyons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714190418.gk17...@co-ho.net
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On 07/14/2014 10:45 AM, Steve Litt wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hi, Perhaps someone here has already solved this: I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. And this is s journey I have travelled before with a B+W Brother MFP which ran for a few years under various flavours of Debian with the help of endless playing with the drivers provided by Brother. Samsung also provide drivers, and I have had the machine operating under Arch and Debian Stable for some months. But I need to run sid to have later versions of other software, hence my current predicament. I need to replace the Samsung with something that really will run under sid. I am looking for a colour laser MFC (no need for fax). It must be networked (ethernet is fine, though wifi would be ok), and modestly priced -- small business model, say in the £200-400 range. I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying another expensive failure. TIA richard If I'm reading your post correctly, you have no problem printing to this printer, only scanning. Perhaps you can do what I did... My Brother MFC8810DW multifunction is Linux compatable, and I even got the thing to scan from my computer a couple times. But it was so darn difficult I gave up and simply scanned to a thumb drive plugged into the printer's USB, and then sneakernetted the thumb to my computer. Yeah, it's a 1976 solution, but I don't spend time getting sane to work, and for the amount I scan, it's not particularly a burden. If that works, maybe you can keep the printer you have now. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance I can't speak for Debian, but I am using an Epson WP-4530 multifunction. I have never had to load a driver for it in PCLinuxOS-KDE or in Mint KDE, which uses Ubuntu software. I think Ubuntu is fairly close to Debian in the way it handles software. I just run XSane and it copies. Epson has Linux drivers for just about all their products. This mfp has usb and Ethernet inputs. It does very nice color and is fast. I think it might also do WIFI, but I don't use that. It also does FAX, even tho you said you don't need it. I've used the FAX output only two or three times, but it's handy to have when you want to send something to a doctor or a lawyer--they don't seem to know about email! (I haven't run the FAX from the computer--I just print out a page and then FAX it by hand from the machine directly.) For what it's worth, it will also copy from Windows without installing a driver, but the Windows copy apps leave something to be desired, I've found. --doug -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c41563.60...@optonline.net
Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED
On 14/07/2014, Ralph Katz wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > > https://wiki.debian.org/skype may help. Skype 4.2.0.13 works for me > on 64 bit debian wheezy using alsa and libpulse as described in the wiki. > Thank you for that URL. I was not previously aware of the web page existence. Neither was I aware of Debian packages being available for Skype, after the ones for Skype v2.2 (Beta), which is what I have on Debian 6. I have also Linphone and Ekiga installed on Debian 6, but Skype 2.2, is the only videocalling software that I could get working. And, with my Skype 2.2, I, on my Debian 6 installation, have been able to successfully communicate with other people running Skype on both MS Windows and Linux. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CACX6j8NxrOMRt49NuQ9pd7aJAKo-7zfMk9yJ0xDHDjGSjKo=w...@mail.gmail.com
How does one request 3G modems to be added to those supported under 7.5.0
I am somewhat of a new user of Debian. I have 7.5.0 running using a ZTE 3772-Z USB modem and this worked by just turning broadband on and selecting the 3G provider. I also have two 3G modems that do not work (but work under fedora): T-mobile ZTE MF626 USB modem Orange Alcatel X220D USB modem What is the procedure for getting these added to the list of supported modems? Thanks, Perazim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714173239.horde.in9awpyro99txayn31ot...@correio.portugalmail.pt
ip address on dhcp client
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:53:06 +0530 - Hide quoted text - rajiv chavan wrote: > Mon, 14 Jul 2014 07:26:20 +0530 > > Thank you Mett. > Traceroute packets from another host dropped by ISP netwoek at > 218.248.0.0 > > >netstat -rn > > Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window > irtt Iface 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U > 0 0 0 ppp0 117.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 > U 0 0 0 eth0 117.222.8.1 0.0.0.0 > 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 127.0.0.0 > 0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 lo > 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 > 0 0 eth0 224.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 240.0.0.0 > U 0 0 0 eth0 > > ifconfig eth0:0 yields: > >ip a > > 2: eth0: > link/ether > inet 192.168.1.2/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 > inet 117.222.15.189/8 brd 117.255.255.255 scope global eth0:0 > 3: ppp0: > link/ppp > inet 117.222.15.189 peer 117.222.8.1/32 scope global ppp0 > > This is a lone host - no network. > Address 117.222.15.189 does not map to modem-router. Nmap on modem > returns ports 23,80,5431 open. All ports on 117.222.15.189 filtered. > The state may not be reproducible. Oftentiimes eth0 gets only > 192.168.1.2 address (which can be pinged ),and ppp0 does not exist. > > > On 7/14/14, mett wrote: > > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 00:31:43 +0530 > > rajiv chavan wrote: > > > >> Sun, 13 Jul 2014 23:34:41 +0530 > >> > >> ip a output on an adsl+ (pppoe) client: > >> =snip= > >> 2: eth0: mtu 1500 qdisc > >> pfifo_fast state UP group default qlen 1000 > >> inet 192.168.1.2/24 brd 192.168.1.255 scope global eth0 > >> 3: ppp0: mtu 1460 qdisc > >> pfifo_fast state UNKNOWN group default qlen 3 > >> link/ppp > >> inet 117.222.15.189 peer 117.222.8.1/32 scope global ppp0 > >> =snip= > >> Can ping 127.0.0.1 and 192.168.1.1 but not 117.222.15.189 nor > >> 192.168.1.2 tcpdump on eth0 detcts pppoe packets from > >> 117.222.15.189 to hosts except 192.168.1.1-2 > >> nmap reports 117.222.15.189 ip but all posrt 1-1000 filtered. > >> > >> > > > > Hi, > > > > Everything is on the same interface? > > I don't think Eth0 can be routing for your local network and at the > > same time become ppp0 and route for a global network. > > I think you'll need some kind of subinterfaces if you want to use > > only one physical interface for your local network and the outside > > one. > > > > Maybe try a traceroute and you'll see where the packets are going. > > Also, check the routes(netstat -nr or route -ne). > > > > You might give a try one by one to see at what point it stops > > working: -try only the local network first and once it's working > > try to set up your pppoe link. > > > > hth > > > > > > -- > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact > > listmas...@lists.debian.org > > Archive: > > https://lists.debian.org/20140714091211.3c1fd4cd@asus.tamerr > > > > No prob, by the way, better to answer to the list than PM to my address, as sby who might have same problem can see this thread and benefit of the info as well. Also, on this mailing list, generally you post down the thread, like this other persons reading the thread can get an idea of the whole thing, easily by scrolling down. Regarding the issue, if this is a lone host and you are not NATing, one easy way of trblshooting would be : -no manual ip address at all on eth0 -no manual routes as well, -then run pppoeconf, it's quite straight forward and tells you if it finds an aggregator on your ISP side. With the following top. PCmodem-Internet Did you try to set up route manually, as I can see many routes under netstat -nr ? By the way, I never tried with subinterfaces on same phy for outside and inside, but I don't understand why you have a route for multicast(224 smtg) and also a route for the 117.0.0.0 network and at the same time one for 192.168, all that on eth0. Even if eth0 is showing eth0:0, I don't think you need a route for 117.0.0.0., neither one for multicast(224). Try to remove them and see what happened but would be better, faster and easier to just run pppoeconf with an eth0 interface without any IP address. Also, I was talking about traceroute from your host to outside. If it doesn't go anywhere, you will be sure the problem is on your side. Also, you said your host is alone, no network but eth0 on 192.168.1.2 can be pinged. I don't understand how that is possible. As a ref, I paste mine down here # netstat -nr Kernel IP routing table Destination Gateway Genmask Flags MSS Window irtt Iface ISP.AGG.IP.ADD0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0 0 0 ppp0 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U 0 0 0 eth0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 0.0.0.0 U 0 0 0 ppp0 Thing is I have 2 phy interfaces, so ppp0 is not running on eth0 but eth1, tha
How does one request 3G modems to be added to those supported under 7.5.0
I am somewhat of a new user of Debian. I have 7.5.0 running using a ZTE 3772-Z USB modem and this worked by just turning broadband on and selecting the 3G provider. I also have two 3G modems that do not work (but work under fedora): T-mobile ZTE MF626 USB modem Orange Alcatel X220D USB modem What is the procedure for getting these added to the list of supported modems? Thanks, Perazim -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1405355934.53c4079e28...@mail.inbox.lt
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Monday 14 July 2014 14:13:22 Richard Lyons wrote: > I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that > scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. Have you spoken to the Samsung second line support Linux specialist(s)? Would you like name and email address (off-list)? The chap stayed with me until the one I was setting up was working. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407141733.28946.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:58:56 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: > Yes, but in fact the printing side is usually manageable -- the main > problem being that CUPS mysteriously finds more and more copies of the > network printer, and it is difficult to know which one to choose when > setting up a new printer. Go around to every printer, and make sure all the CUPS printers, at 127.0.0.1:631, are marked not shareable. I bet that makes the problem goes away. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714114329.4c5b4...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On 07/14/2014 10:58 AM, Richard Lyons wrote: On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 14:38:46 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hello Richard, I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. With HP, by and large, you don't need to install their own drivers. Here, I install hplip and drivers (from the repos). Yes, but in fact the printing side is usually manageable -- the main problem being that CUPS mysteriously finds more and more copies of the network printer, and it is difficult to know which one to choose when setting up a new printer. The difficulty comes in persuading SANE to even see the machine on the network. Samsung have an excellent universal installer -- but when it fails on some distros, you are borked. I used to use a Business Inkjet 1200 without problems, and currently use an Officejet 6700 multifunction device (print/scan/fax). Okay, so not a laser, but even so It is beginning to sound as though HP is the only safe way to go. If you do happen to find a current multi-function laser printer (colour or b&w) that works just with the drivers and installers available in the main repository, please let us know. I purchased an HP M127fn (b&w MFP) a couple of weeks ago thinking that this would be a safe bet -- just because it was an HP. But I got it home, checked the hardware compatibility lists, found absolutely nothing that even vaguely resembled the model number, and then chickened out and took it back to the store without opening it. I don't know for certain that it wouldn't have worked, but the HP Web site was kind of dodgy about providing specifics. I got the impression that I would have had to download software directly from them -- and that's in the best-case scenario. I didn't really need the thing (already had a working inkjet MFP) and just didn't want to go through the possible hassle of using anything outside of the repos. The HP MFPs I've used have been extremely easy to install and to get all functions working -- just by using the hp-setup utility. But they've all been older models. Good luck! Good luck. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c3f669.3040...@comcast.net
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:45:57 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > > If I'm reading your post correctly, you have no problem printing to > this printer, only scanning. Perhaps you can do what I did... > > My Brother MFC8810DW multifunction is Linux compatable, and I even got > the thing to scan from my computer a couple times. But it was so darn > difficult I gave up and simply scanned to a thumb drive plugged into > the printer's USB, and then sneakernetted the thumb to my computer. I like that. > Yeah, it's a 1976 solution, Not quite -- those 8" floppies didn't fit in your pocket on the way. This is advanced technology! Thanks Steve. -- Richard Lyons 07717 842296 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714152029.gh17...@co-ho.net
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 15:58:56 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hello Richard, >Yes, but in fact the printing side is usually manageable -- the main >problem being that CUPS mysteriously finds more and more copies of the I've not experienced that here, but my experience may be uncommon, IDK. As you say though, it's usually other things that cause issues, not printing. >setting up a new printer. The difficulty comes in persuading SANE to >even see the machine on the network. Samsung have an excellent Just double checked, and XSANE finds the scanner part of my HP and can perform scanning control. It is a networked device, BTW. Connected via cable, but does have WiFi capability. >It is beginning to sound as though HP is the only safe way to go. Despite their problems (not everyone likes HP's business model), they do appear to be more open to Linux users and developers than some other companies. They even run an hplip forum for those needing support under Linux. IIRC, there's no telephone support for Linux users, that seems to be for Windows only. But it's better than nothing. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Your life is like a schedule, you run to meet the bills Life Kills - Human League signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: apparently, it needs a special discover program to be network discovered (read all, at least until P2): http://www.bchemnet.com/suldr/forum/index.php?PHPSESSID=059e8faf009f3df74e6e30d8aa4f2d6e&action=recent;start=0 also take a look at the root of this site. this seems to handle everything (?): http://drivers.softpedia.com/get/PRINTER/Samsung/Samsung-CLX-4195FN-SEE-MFP-Print-Scan-Driver-10006-for-Linux.shtml > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for > example. The sane-project.org website never has the current > models, however, so I would like to hear any positive experience > others have had before buying another expensive failure. Take a HP, even a 2nd-hand, as in almost all models the sensitive rig comes with the cartridge. -- I'm such a no-life that when I get out home, people think I'm a new neighbor --' signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Tue, 15 Jul 2014 01:18:43 +1200 Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for > > example. The sane-project.org website never has the current models, > > however, so I would like to hear any positive experience others > > have had before buying another expensive failure. > > Can't suggest any models, but make sure it works *before* you buy it! Easier said than done. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714104619.0891f...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: > Hi, > > Perhaps someone here has already solved this: > > I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that > scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. And this is s journey I > have travelled before with a B+W Brother MFP which ran for a few years > under various flavours of Debian with the help of endless playing with > the drivers provided by Brother. Samsung also provide drivers, and I > have had the machine operating under Arch and Debian Stable for some > months. But I need to run sid to have later versions of other > software, hence my current predicament. I need to replace the > Samsung with something that really will run under sid. I am looking > for a colour laser MFC (no need for fax). It must be networked > (ethernet is fine, though wifi would be ok), and modestly priced -- > small business model, say in the £200-400 range. > > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, > so I would like to hear any positive experience others have had > before buying another expensive failure. > > TIA > > richard If I'm reading your post correctly, you have no problem printing to this printer, only scanning. Perhaps you can do what I did... My Brother MFC8810DW multifunction is Linux compatable, and I even got the thing to scan from my computer a couple times. But it was so darn difficult I gave up and simply scanned to a thumb drive plugged into the printer's USB, and then sneakernetted the thumb to my computer. Yeah, it's a 1976 solution, but I don't spend time getting sane to work, and for the amount I scan, it's not particularly a burden. If that works, maybe you can keep the printer you have now. SteveT Steve Litt* http://www.troubleshooters.com/ Troubleshooting Training * Human Performance -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714104557.6706d...@mydesq2.domain.cxm
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 14:38:46 +0100, Brad Rogers wrote: > On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 > Richard Lyons wrote: > > Hello Richard, > > >I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > > With HP, by and large, you don't need to install their own drivers. > Here, I install hplip and drivers (from the repos). Yes, but in fact the printing side is usually manageable -- the main problem being that CUPS mysteriously finds more and more copies of the network printer, and it is difficult to know which one to choose when setting up a new printer. The difficulty comes in persuading SANE to even see the machine on the network. Samsung have an excellent universal installer -- but when it fails on some distros, you are borked. > > > I used to use a Business Inkjet 1200 without problems, and currently use > an Officejet 6700 multifunction device (print/scan/fax). Okay, so not a > laser, but even so It is beginning to sound as though HP is the only safe way to go. Thanks richard -- Richard Lyons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714145856.gg17...@co-ho.net
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for > example. The sane-project.org website never has the current > models, however, so I would like to hear any positive experience > others have had before buying another expensive failure. FYI, almost every combo is programmed to fail everything when something fail (eg: the lamp of the scanner's burned, the printer doesn't work anymore too; "thanks" to programmed obsolescence). As for the difference between MIDI & HIFI, prefer separated devices; you might pay more, but when something will fail you'll know why… -- DAR : formerly, I thought Die Hard was a german film signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Tue, Jul 15, 2014 at 01:18:43 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > > The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I > > would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying > > another expensive failure. > > Can't suggest any models, but make sure it works *before* you buy it! The problem is how to be sure. My experience shows things that seem to work may in fact be flaky -- working only in a particular arrangement and unable to be used if the OS is updated, or with drivers that are never updated like my Brother, for example. richard -- Richard Lyons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714143211.gf17...@co-ho.net
Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 07/13/2014 09:09 PM, Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. > > As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, > I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everything works fine > there). > > I was just trying to use skype (Now ver. 4.3) on debian once again but > this time from my wife's debian user account. > Surprisingly, microphone works just fine from her account > i checked skype setting, pulse audio setting, looks everything is > identical to my own account... > > I just don't have no clue whatsoever what is the cause of this problem... > > Any thoughts, anyone? https://wiki.debian.org/skype may help. Skype 4.2.0.13 works for me on 64 bit debian wheezy using alsa and libpulse as described in the wiki. Here's another clue - Please post your reply below quoted text (bottom post) on this list; it's easier for us to follow. Regards, Ralph -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Icedove - http://www.enigmail.net/ iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJTw+cvAAoJECe2FpioHXO6CNsH/2GwMPTuJJdXsA1G8TGM9Oeh 00ZDutkArufg9FEKrDUnDoPIquci34KNaaBKb44wURBuHYivvejyqLN+CIKSFs++ D2T2hgPbxRQe4uh7Ii07ajqPOeVa5fYE93wrfNiAlzxcJvFzNVDez2CDrhSRvVed kQqkoAZD9O1fPvBBw5mM6QqUrXTUDuasSilii9vFEAIUsYR1Y5prSwhHm+v7w/vU gVnQM0pFQVsMQBfTRkOYBgMDQrWD11JSwU1au4Vf3ydZFaSEkTk5ePqLJwTDaBja FKCrQFHiuyFyf8XLIfYfOAh+K7yHG00PPDzrX/t8KCfM0wuYdsV5CjcIoG1/btE= =vpPT -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53c3e74c.7080...@rcn.com
Time in Emacs status bar
When emacs show the time in the status bar, the time zone is not correct. I have tried to correct it by putting this in ~/.emacs: (set-time-zone-rule "GMT+2") (setq display-time-day-and-date t display-time-24hr-format t) (display-time) But for example the time now is 16:00 in our time zone but emacs shows 12:00. How do I convince emacs to use the same time zone info as the system? Regards Johann -- Because experiencing your loyal love is better than life itself, my lips will praise you. (Psalm 63:3)
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, 14 Jul 2014 14:13:22 +0100 Richard Lyons wrote: Hello Richard, >I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. With HP, by and large, you don't need to install their own drivers. Here, I install hplip and drivers (from the repos). >The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I >would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying >another expensive failure. I used to use a Business Inkjet 1200 without problems, and currently use an Officejet 6700 multifunction device (print/scan/fax). Okay, so not a laser, but even so So long as you don't buy the latest and greatest, drivers should be available. You can check hp-ppd in Sid at https://packages.debian.org to see what devices are supported. -- Regards _ / ) "The blindingly obvious is / _)radnever immediately apparent" Dream on white boy, dream on black girl Original Sin - INXS signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: networked multi-function colour laser printers
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 02:13:22PM +0100, Richard Lyons wrote: > I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. > The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I > would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying > another expensive failure. Can't suggest any models, but make sure it works *before* you buy it! -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714131843.GA23811@tal
networked multi-function colour laser printers
Hi, Perhaps someone here has already solved this: I have wasted another 20 hours trying to get sane (or anything that scans) to see a networked Samsung CLX-4195FN. And this is s journey I have travelled before with a B+W Brother MFP which ran for a few years under various flavours of Debian with the help of endless playing with the drivers provided by Brother. Samsung also provide drivers, and I have had the machine operating under Arch and Debian Stable for some months. But I need to run sid to have later versions of other software, hence my current predicament. I need to replace the Samsung with something that really will run under sid. I am looking for a colour laser MFC (no need for fax). It must be networked (ethernet is fine, though wifi would be ok), and modestly priced -- small business model, say in the £200-400 range. I see that HP and OKI both claim to offer Linux drivers, for example. The sane-project.org website never has the current models, however, so I would like to hear any positive experience others have had before buying another expensive failure. TIA richard -- Richard Lyons -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714131322.ge17...@co-ho.net
Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 10:42:59PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > > > On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by > > > insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file > > > shown. > > > > > > Current installation lack this and insert function is problematic at > > > best, > > > barely usable. Rc-files look the same. > > > > > > What am I missing? > > > > As far as I remember, the default vim is "vim-tiny" which lacks quite a > > few nice features. Try installing "vim" or "vim-nox" and see if that > > helps. > > Fairly sure that vim-tiny has those features. oops, just checked and doesn't show % or line number but does indicate whether in INSERT mode. -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714130959.GA23491@tal
Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd
On 2014-07-14, Chris Bannister wrote: > > http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Standard_Groups.html > > "This group has write access to all the raw disk devices (/dev/hd* and > /dev/sd*), so assigning users to group disk is both dangerous and a > security risk." I didn't suggest adding regular users to the disk group. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnls7hvf.2b0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd
On Mon 14 Jul 2014 at 22:29:33 +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: > On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 08:43:46AM +, Curt wrote: > > I've seen documentation suggesting you can create a bootable usb stick > > with a simple feline, but it appears this is now restricted > > permissions-wise in version systemd/204-10 to the root user (or a member > > of the disk group) > > http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Standard_Groups.html > > "This group has write access to all the raw disk devices (/dev/hd* and > /dev/sd*), so assigning users to group disk is both dangerous and a > security risk." On Wheezy udev placed removable devices in group 'floppy', which is one of the default group assignments created by d-i for the first user. On Jessie udev puts removable devices in group 'disk', As you imply, no user should ever a member of the 'disk' group. It should be noted the change is completely independent of which init system is used. (Which was the point of the tale against myself). -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/14072014120838.db3181f47...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 08:43:46AM +, Curt wrote: > I've seen documentation suggesting you can create a bootable usb stick > with a simple feline, but it appears this is now restricted > permissions-wise in version systemd/204-10 to the root user (or a member > of the disk group) http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/Standard_Groups.html "This group has write access to all the raw disk devices (/dev/hd* and /dev/sd*), so assigning users to group disk is both dangerous and a security risk." -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714102933.GA15400@tal
Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings
On Mon, Jul 14, 2014 at 09:51:50AM +0100, Darac Marjal wrote: > On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > > On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by > > insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file > > shown. > > > > Current installation lack this and insert function is problematic at best, > > barely usable. Rc-files look the same. > > > > What am I missing? > > As far as I remember, the default vim is "vim-tiny" which lacks quite a > few nice features. Try installing "vim" or "vim-nox" and see if that > helps. Fairly sure that vim-tiny has those features. I suggest the OP check the Rc-files again and compare a good rc-file with one from a "broken" system. A *quick* google finds this: Vim ignores statusline setting in vimrc [Solved] (Page 1) https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=142425 -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140714104259.GB15400@tal
Re: Skype - no microphone input sound...REVISITED
On Monday 14 July 2014 02:09:25 Man_Without_Clue wrote: > Ok, I had almost given up on this but now little update. > > As i could not make skype's microphone working on debian wheezy 64 bit, > I have been using linux mint 17 for skype (4.2, everything works fine > there). > > I was just trying to use skype (Now ver. 4.3) on debian once again but > this time from my wife's debian user account. > Surprisingly, microphone works just fine from her account > i checked skype setting, pulse audio setting, looks everything is > identical to my own account... > > I just don't have no clue whatsoever what is the cause of this problem... > > Any thoughts, anyone? Is there a driver needed for the microphone? Is said driver missing? Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201407141104.45675.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd
On 2014-07-13, The Wanderer wrote: > > On 07/13/2014 02:17 PM, Brian wrote: > >> However, Tom H is right. Blame systemd is the first port of call when >> something doesn't work as expected. I nearly did it myself a day or >> two ago. What do you expect 'cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX' *as a user* >> on Jessie to do when /dev/sdX is the device for a USB stick? > > Exactly the same thing it would do on wheezy, or before. (Whatever that > is; I can't say I've tried this, or read documentation advocating for or > against it.) I've seen documentation suggesting you can create a bootable usb stick with a simple feline, but it appears this is now restricted permissions-wise in version systemd/204-10 to the root user (or a member of the disk group); the unexpected being, I guess, in this case, one of those authoritative permission denied messages that strikes terror in the hearts us regular users. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnls7622.2b0.cu...@einstein.electron.org
Re: New 64bit Installation: Vim Keymappings
On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 10:33:03PM +0300, David Baron wrote: > On prior 32-bit installation, had insert/replace explicitly activated by > insert key and function shown at bottom. Also had line number, % of file > shown. > > Current installation lack this and insert function is problematic at best, > barely usable. Rc-files look the same. > > What am I missing? As far as I remember, the default vim is "vim-tiny" which lacks quite a few nice features. Try installing "vim" or "vim-nox" and see if that helps. > > > -- > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org > with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org > Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1889460.6R8RUeBsmK@dovidhalevi > signature.asc Description: Digital signature
Re: UEFI
Ahoj, Dňa Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:49:40 -0700 Noah Meyerhans napísal: > On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 11:23:11AM +0200, Slavko wrote: > > By this, i see, that the secure boot is good for corporate > > environment, don't affect average home users. For others there is > > more simple to disable it, than always sign any experiment ;) > > In practice, I'm sure most non-corporate users will disable it, yes. > It is simply more convenient to do so. However, there are benefits to > enabling it, even for home users. Malware that infects the earliest > phases of the boot process by modifiying boot blocks (grub's phase1, > etc), etc, exists and is very hard to detect. "Know what you're > booting" is basically the goal of UEFI secure boot, and all users can > benefit from that. From my point of view: Who will know what i am booting – i or signing company (in mean who is signing what)? Is there universal way to generate valid key by self on (e.g.) daily/weekly base? Who will prevent malvare producers to buy signing key and then boot their modifications? I see no security advantages, only companies advantages. In other words, rely on third party is as secure as your believe to it, but security is not a religion, there is not reason to believe to unknown third party groups, because next days can ends in that only NSA will know what i am booting. Yes, when i will sign my systems, then i will know what i am booting, but until this, disabling it provides the same security level as system signed by someone other. Or i am bad? -- Slavko http://slavino.sk signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: I'm not a huge fan of systemd
On Sun, 13 Jul 2014 09:44:20 -0400, Tom H wrote: > > "/etc/init.d/foobar start" has been deprecated since "service ..." was > introduced to Debian. As has been covered before here, using "service > ..." cleans up the environment in which the daemon's launched. You can > use "systemctl ..." with sysvinit scripts and systemd units but I > can't remember whether you can use "service ..." with systemd units. > AFAIR the plan's to have that working in jessie. > I'm actually using both service ... and /etc/init.d/... to restart service. Last one is good to use, if I cannot remember if it is graylist or graylistd or greylist or greylistd. So it there were some directory with scripts containing 'systemctl ... "$@"' for every daemon, then that would be great. -- Virgo Pärna virgo.pa...@mail.ee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnls6vv9.fs2.virgo.pa...@dragon.gaiasoft.ee
Re: PuTTY SSH client security
On Sat, 12 Jul 2014 12:13:10 -0400 (EDT), Stephen Powell wrote: > > I think you meant to say "susceptible", not "suspectible". > But otherwise, that's a good point. > Oops, sorry. -- Virgo Pärna virgo.pa...@mail.ee -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/slrnls7012.fs2.virgo.pa...@dragon.gaiasoft.ee
