Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?
On Tuesday 19 August 2014 07:17:25 Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote:
> > On 19/08/2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> >> op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef:
> >>> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new
> >>> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes
> >>> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe
> >>> even more robust bits of sid. (For brevity, I'll refer to that
> >>> collectively as "D7++".) Particularly I'm interested in the following
> >>> usecase: someone receives request from OP to do an interview by
> >>> Skype, the service with which the OP is most familiar. Are there,
> >>> e.g.,
> >>>
> >>> 1. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect
> >>> directly to an OP running Skype?
> >>
> >> There are no Skype compatible clients.
> >>
> >>> 2. Alternate services (e.g., Google Hangout) with ease-of-use
> >>> sufficiently approximate to Skype that the D7++ user could reasonably
> >>> propose to an OP of {usual, not very strong} IT-literacy?
> >>
> >> For about a month I've tested an online service called Bistri:
> >> https://bistri.com/
> >> It worked fine with Chromium, but not with Iceweasel then (maybe it
> >> works now with a newer version).
> >
> > That web site is all https, even for looking for information about the
> > application, and, the home page itself.
> >
> > I have just done a system update (Debian 6 LTS), which included a
> > number of libraries, including SSL libraries (I mention this here,
> > because I do not know whether that is the cause of the problem).
> >
> > When I went to look at that web site, I repeatedly got "The
> > certificate at (, even though I
> > was trying to get to only the home page of the web site, in the first
> > instance - I could not even get to the home page) has expired - do you
> > want to ignore this error", I clicked on the "Yes" option. I did that
> > about ten or twenty times, and then my web browser crashed.
[snip]
> SSL Errors:
>
> for: https://bistri.com/
> The certificate has expired
> Do you want to ignore these errors?
I just clicked on your own hyperlink above and got straight through. I
usually get warnings of expired certificates.
Whatever your problem is, it appears not to be with the site.
Lisi
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Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?
On 19/08/2014, Bret Busby wrote:
> On 19/08/2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
>> op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef:
>>>
>>> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new
>>> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes
>>> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe
>>> even more robust bits of sid. (For brevity, I'll refer to that
>>> collectively as "D7++".) Particularly I'm interested in the following
>>> usecase: someone receives request from OP to do an interview by
>>> Skype, the service with which the OP is most familiar. Are there,
>>> e.g.,
>>>
>>> 1. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect
>>> directly to an OP running Skype?
>>
>> There are no Skype compatible clients.
>>
>>> 2. Alternate services (e.g., Google Hangout) with ease-of-use
>>> sufficiently approximate to Skype that the D7++ user could reasonably
>>> propose to an OP of {usual, not very strong} IT-literacy?
>>
>> For about a month I've tested an online service called Bistri:
>> https://bistri.com/
>> It worked fine with Chromium, but not with Iceweasel then (maybe it
>> works now with a newer version).
>>
>
> That web site is all https, even for looking for information about the
> application, and, the home page itself.
>
> I have just done a system update (Debian 6 LTS), which included a
> number of libraries, including SSL libraries (I mention this here,
> because I do not know whether that is the cause of the problem).
>
> When I went to look at that web site, I repeatedly got "The
> certificate at (, even though I
> was trying to get to only the home page of the web site, in the first
> instance - I could not even get to the home page) has expired - do you
> want to ignore this error", I clicked on the "Yes" option. I did that
> about ten or twenty times, and then my web browser crashed.
>
> So, they can put that web site, where it hurts.
>
> When web sites make even their home pages, malware, they have no place
> in the World Wide Web.
>
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> West Australia
> ..
>
> "So once you do know what the question actually is,
> you'll know what the answer means."
> - Deep Thought,
> Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
> "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
> A Trilogy In Four Parts",
> written by Douglas Adams,
> published by Pan Books, 1992
>
>
>
"
SSL Errors:
for: https://bistri.com/
The certificate has expired
Do you want to ignore these errors?
"
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you'll know what the answer means."
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Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
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A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
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Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?
On 19/08/2014, Paul van der Vlis wrote:
> op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef:
>>
>> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new
>> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes
>> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe
>> even more robust bits of sid. (For brevity, I'll refer to that
>> collectively as "D7++".) Particularly I'm interested in the following
>> usecase: someone receives request from OP to do an interview by
>> Skype, the service with which the OP is most familiar. Are there,
>> e.g.,
>>
>> 1. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect
>> directly to an OP running Skype?
>
> There are no Skype compatible clients.
>
>> 2. Alternate services (e.g., Google Hangout) with ease-of-use
>> sufficiently approximate to Skype that the D7++ user could reasonably
>> propose to an OP of {usual, not very strong} IT-literacy?
>
> For about a month I've tested an online service called Bistri:
> https://bistri.com/
> It worked fine with Chromium, but not with Iceweasel then (maybe it
> works now with a newer version).
>
That web site is all https, even for looking for information about the
application, and, the home page itself.
I have just done a system update (Debian 6 LTS), which included a
number of libraries, including SSL libraries (I mention this here,
because I do not know whether that is the cause of the problem).
When I went to look at that web site, I repeatedly got "The
certificate at (, even though I
was trying to get to only the home page of the web site, in the first
instance - I could not even get to the home page) has expired - do you
want to ignore this error", I clicked on the "Yes" option. I did that
about ten or twenty times, and then my web browser crashed.
So, they can put that web site, where it hurts.
When web sites make even their home pages, malware, they have no place
in the World Wide Web.
--
Bret Busby
Armadale
West Australia
..
"So once you do know what the question actually is,
you'll know what the answer means."
- Deep Thought,
Chapter 28 of Book 1 of
"The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy:
A Trilogy In Four Parts",
written by Douglas Adams,
published by Pan Books, 1992
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Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 05:38:13AM -0700, Rusi Mody wrote: > More specifically my concerns are: > 1. Which apt package 'owns' which file? Use 'dpkg -S' e.g.: root@tal:~# dpkg -S /bin/systemd systemd: /bin/systemd root@tal:~# dpkg -S /lib/systemd/systemd systemd: /lib/systemd/systemd -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140819031813.GA28646@tal
Re: Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 02:03:17PM -0400, Ric Moore wrote: > I purged my system of Wine sometime back to lessen my tears. We REALLY need > a "Dragon Killer" app for Linux. Ric Check out: FreeSpeech, Julius, Palaver, Simon, and/or Speech-App -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140819032951.GB28646@tal
Re: Problem with Debian 6 LTS and vlc
On Thu, 14 Aug 2014, Bret Busby wrote:
Hello.
hi bret.
I am not sure whether support queries specific to Debian 6 LTS,
should be posted to this list,
i assume such queries are on-topic here.
or to the LTS list - on the web page at
https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Contact#debian-lts
is
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though i'm not subscribed to debian-lts, based on that description i
would expect your query regarding installing vlc to be on-topic there
as well.
which makes that list appear to me (along with the messages that I
have so far seen posted to it), to be for developers, rather than
for Debian 6 LTS users who are seeking support.
fwiw, that is not my interpretation.
I have just tried to install vlc on this laptop.
At first attempt, it kept prompting for the "disc number...", so I
checked the /etc/apt/sources.list file, and found that it was not set
up for LTS.
as you have probably discovered, if you have a working internet
connection and aren't in the mood to mess around with cds, then you
should comment out any lines beginning with 'deb cdrom:...' in
/etc/apt/sources.list .
So, I updated the /etc/apt/sources.list file, as (I believe) shown on
the relevant wiki web page, and ran apt-get update and then apt-get
upgrade, and that apparently included removal of about 3.6MB of
something (it did not say what would be removed).
the more details you supply, pertaining to your problem, the more
details you are likely to receive, pertaining to its solution. (i am
a little surprised you haven't received more responses to your query
yet, but maybe this principle explains why.)
regarding your sources.list, i wonder what is the output of
$ grep '^[^#]' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
But, now I can not install vlc.
i do not run squeeze any more, but i find that surprising. sounds
like a problem. i wonder what the problem is.
I get, in the error box (the error classification/description, can
not be copied and pasted),
"
vlc:
Depends: vlc-nox but it is not going to be installed
Depends: libfribidi0 (>=0.19.2) but it is not installable
Depends: libsdl-image1.2 (>=1.2.10) but it is not installable
Depends: libxcb-keysyms1 (>=0.3.6) but it is not installable
Recommends: vlc-plugin-notify but it is not going to be installed
Recommends: vlc-plugin-pulse but it is not going to be installed
"
Is vlc no longer installable, on Debian 6?
with the caveat that i don't currently run squeeze myself, it would
surprise me if vlc were not installable on squeeze, and (with due
respect to third-party repository enthusiasts) i doubt that third
party repositories are required to install it.
again, regarding your sources.list, i wonder what is the output of
$ grep '^[^#]' /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}
-wes
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Re: iso and disk space problem
On 08/18/2014 01:27 PM, Brian wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 10:50:48 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On 18/08/14 09:11 AM, Brian wrote: Which ISO are you using? ElementaryOS...seems like a Gnome-based distro from what I've been able to gather but it replaces a lot of Gnome stuff with its own applications written in Vala (sp). It does have a loopback.cfg, which is why grub can boot it from the grml-rescueboot devised menu entry. The live image is mastered to use Ubuntu's casper and the distribution itself is Ubuntu based. First impressions are that it looks smart. I boot from a USB stick, which doesn't give the fastest booting in the west. From a CD it might be noticeably slower. Once the OS is going I cannot say I'm disappointed with its snappiness. I'm inclined to think increasing size of an ISO is not possible. Having it access space outside the image is. Yes that's the conclusion I've reached but how to do it is the problem. For me this started as a way to try the distro without booting from a CD but now it has stoked my curiosity about ISOs in general. How about a 'df -h'? Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /cow 1006M 191M 816M 19% / udev996M 4.0K 996M 1% /dev tmpfs 403M 944K 402M 1% /run /dev/sdc18 662M 662M 0 100% /cdrom /dev/loop0 631M 631M 0 100% /rofs tmpfs 1006M 8.0K 1006M 1% /tmp none5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock none 1006M 76K 1006M 1% /run/shm /dev/sdc18 and /dev/loop0 are the ISO image. Note the 100%. /cow is a copy-on-write filesystem; it will be in memory. I've some progams open and did some downloading. Whatever happened to you would be a result of running out of room on /cow and not the fault of too small an ISO image. Take look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence and see what you think. A lot to chew on there...but it looks like it might help. Thanks -- 1984 was not meant as a blueprint for democratic governments. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f2766d.3050...@videotron.ca
Re: iso and disk space problem
On 08/18/2014 12:39 PM, Richard Owlett wrote: Frank McCormick wrote: On 18/08/14 09:11 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 01:01:17 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On 17/08/14 10:22 PM, sp113438 wrote: grml-rescue does not work on other ISO's, only on grml I thought. Please correct when I am wrong. Grml loads any iso placed in the /boot/grml directory. It modifies the grub2 menu, adding a listing for whatever iso you put in there and Grub2 will load it. grml-rescueboot will modify the grub menu with a listing for the ISO but will not boot it unless the image contains a loopback.cfg file in its /boot/grub. This rules out many (if not most) popular distributions. Which ISO are you using? ElementaryOS...seems like a Gnome-based distro from what I've been able to gather but it replaces a lot of Gnome stuff with its own applications written in Vala (sp). It's handy for that...but as I found out, unless there is a way to increase the file size of the iso, you can have problems :) I'm inclined to think increasing size of an ISO is not possible. Having it access space outside the image is. Yes that's the conclusion I've reached but how to do it is the problem. For me this started as a way to try the distro without booting from a CD but now it has stoked my curiosity about ISOs in general. I vaguely recall having seen what you asked for on a debian.org page dealing with creating custom cd's. I came up empty on a quick search just now. However when searching to see just what ElementaryOS is, I came across http://www.stugon.com/install-elementary-os-on-vmware-player/ HTH Well I wanted to try to avoid solutions like vmware or qmenu. I don't think it's worth going to all that trouble. -- 1984 was not meant as a blueprint for democratic governments. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f27633.6040...@videotron.ca
Re: Graphic-Card / Optimus_Prime
op 18-08-14 15:34, merkeda...@vmail.me schreef: > hi, > > > I am on dual-boot debian 7 & ubuntu 14 (updated) with two choices on my > laptop : > Nvidia or Intel. > Optimus technology manage it with the soft "prime" allowing switching > the graphic-card easily. > > On ubuntu, it is clear & neat ; i add nvidia settings - it chooses and > download the driver - and i add the others things ; then, i restart. > On Debian, it is not clear, not at all. For Debian there are non-free drivers for Nvidia too, in the non-free section: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=nvidia&searchon=names&suite=stable§ion=non-free But not sure they are new enough for your hardware. Sometimes it helps to use packages from backports: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ Realize that Debian is about open source software. > I wish obtain the same thing on my debian. > What must i do ? > Is someone know a how-to (recent please) ? https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/bumblebee https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers > Is someone working with optimus ? In my opinion it's too new, so I don't buy hardware with it. > Does Debian accept Optimus & Nvidia settings + Prime ? Look at the manuals, I don't know. > Very simple with ubuntu, even the french doc is easily readable : > http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/prime > > apt://nvidia-331 nvidia-prime mesa-utils. > or > sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime mesa-utils Debian is not the most user-friendly distro for newbie admins. > Nota Bene : it works only with proprietary driver Not sure. I think Bumblebee is open source. > That is one part of my problem. > > *** > > The second part occurs when i follow a debian tutorial : installing a > proprietary driver : it is not the same that ubuntu' choice !!! > driver 331 -Nvidia settings_ubuntu > driver 340 -Nvidia site_debian > > Like every user, we prefer let the assistant do the right choice. > If i choose another driver (maybe better) is there not a risk to crash > my system ? > With the Nvidia assistant, the better driver will be choose without any > risk. > > Why have i not on my software the prime soft & nvidia 331 (mesa-utils > is) included in the packages (Optimus on laptop is a modern function > well known) or at least a quick help/explanation ? No quick assistant or help. If you want something like that, maybe Ubuntu or Mint are better for you. > I looked for information on several sites but i did not find something > coherent or relevant. > OK, it is maybe not free, not tolerated but i need it : it saves the > life of my battery on debian and allows me playing on line on ubuntu. You always have choice: You could use another computer, what does not have this kind of video. It's possible to turn off the Nvidia part completely, then you don't have the battery problem. With regards, Paul van der Vlis. -- Paul van der Vlis Linux systeembeheer, Groningen http://www.vandervlis.nl -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f263f5.10...@vandervlis.nl
Re: Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?
On 08/18/2014 12:46 PM, Rusi Mody wrote: On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, brian wrote: Hi all, I posted this question to the XFCE users list a couple of days ago but no takers, so I'll try it here. I also got a timeout on the first attempt, so due apologies if this message is a duplicate. Has anyone out there managed to set up Dragon Naturally Speaking to run under WINE? I'm using Debian 7.6 multihome, with XFCE from the Wheezy repos, which means v4.8. My wife has developed a problem with her hands, and can't type more than a few sentences without severe pain. I've got Dragon (V10, which was supposed to be the most compatible) installed, but configuring it is a problem because you have to almost yell down the microphone to get the sound to register when training it. I can get it to work but my wife is (much!) quieter-spoken than I am, and it just will not work for her. I've checked the mixer settings, I have the microphone gain boosted to maximum. We're using a USB microphone, but I could go back to an old 4mil one connected into the sound jack if USB could be the problem. Her PC is a bog-standard eMachines/Wal-Mart job, so nothing fancy, sound is off the motherboard, no added cards. There should be enough CPU power there, though, 2.3 GHz dual core with 3GB of RAM. Any ideas very gratefully received, I just don't know what else to try. The software obviously works, but it just tells me that the volume is too low when Pat tries to train it. Not that this is answering your Dragon-related question. However it may be worth a look http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~arora/RSI.html While your wife is attempting to use Dragon, open pavucontrol and click on the input tab. (assuming you have already set up your audio system and wine correctly) and you should see the audio indicator flicker as she speaks. You can adjust the input volume there. If it's already set the highest, then try alsa mixer to see if the gain control is off and the volume level set to 90%. I purged my system of Wine sometime back to lessen my tears. We REALLY need a "Dragon Killer" app for Linux. Ric -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f23fe5.1020...@gmail.com
Re: Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?
brian wrote: > My wife has developed a problem with her hands, and can't type more > than a few sentences without severe pain. Ouch. My wife has a similar problem. She's gotten better, but she still needs to use Dragon. > I've got Dragon (V10, which > was supposed to be the most compatible) installed, but configuring it > is a problem because you have to almost yell down the microphone to > get the sound to register when training it. I can get it to work but > my wife is (much!) quieter-spoken than I am, and it just will not work > for her. My wife had to try a couple different sound cards, as well as headsets, before she got something that worked. This was using Windows natively, not through WINE (first XP, then Windows 7). > Her PC is a bog-standard eMachines/Wal-Mart job, so nothing fancy, > sound is off the motherboard, no added cards. There should be enough > CPU power there, though, 2.3 GHz dual core with 3GB of RAM. My understanding is that Dragon is a memory hog, at least in older versions (my wife is not up to Dragon 10 yet). I think my wife's system has 8GB RAM. With 3GB, even if you fix the sound level problem, you might find Dragon making lots of recognition errors. regards and best wishes, mike -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/5025.1408384808@allegro.localdomain
Re: iso and disk space problem
On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 10:50:48 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 18/08/14 09:11 AM, Brian wrote: > > > >Which ISO are you using? > > ElementaryOS...seems like a Gnome-based distro from what I've been > able to gather but it replaces a lot of Gnome stuff with its own > applications written in Vala (sp). It does have a loopback.cfg, which is why grub can boot it from the grml-rescueboot devised menu entry. The live image is mastered to use Ubuntu's casper and the distribution itself is Ubuntu based. First impressions are that it looks smart. I boot from a USB stick, which doesn't give the fastest booting in the west. From a CD it might be noticeably slower. Once the OS is going I cannot say I'm disappointed with its snappiness. > >I'm inclined to think increasing size of an ISO is not possible. Having > >it access space outside the image is. > > >Yes that's the conclusion I've reached but how to do it is the > problem. For me this started as a way to try the distro without > booting from a CD but now it has stoked my curiosity about ISOs in > general. How about a 'df -h'? Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on /cow 1006M 191M 816M 19% / udev996M 4.0K 996M 1% /dev tmpfs 403M 944K 402M 1% /run /dev/sdc18 662M 662M 0 100% /cdrom /dev/loop0 631M 631M 0 100% /rofs tmpfs 1006M 8.0K 1006M 1% /tmp none5.0M 0 5.0M 0% /run/lock none 1006M 76K 1006M 1% /run/shm /dev/sdc18 and /dev/loop0 are the ISO image. Note the 100%. /cow is a copy-on-write filesystem; it will be in memory. I've some progams open and did some downloading. Whatever happened to you would be a result of running out of room on /cow and not the fault of too small an ISO image. Take look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence and see what you think. If you are think of trying other distribution's ISOs you are going to have to abandon grml-rescueboot and do it directly with your own grub entries. Its not too hard but every distribution is different. Actually, many ISOs are hybrid ones and dd to a USB stick is by far the easiest route. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140818172740.gg22...@copernicus.demon.co.uk
Re: Graphic-Card / Optimus_Prime
Lisi Reisz wrote: On Monday 18 August 2014 14:34:46 merkeda...@vmail.me wrote: Very simple with ubuntu, even the french doc is easily readable : No doubt it is very simple with Windows too. This is the Debian list. Why must we keep being told how simple Ubuntu is? Bully for Ubuntu. Lisi Recognize them for being the compliments that they are. When investigating *nix as alternative to Windows, I tried Ubuntu, Puppy, DamnSmallLinux, etc. They demonstrated that various features I wanted could be implemented. None offered an acceptable mixture. Debian can handle even my admittedly quirky requirements. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f23259.5050...@cloud85.net
Re: Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?
On Monday, August 18, 2014 10:00:02 PM UTC+5:30, brian wrote: > Hi all, > I posted this question to the XFCE users list a couple of days ago but > no takers, so I'll try it here. I also got a timeout on the first > attempt, so due apologies if this message is a duplicate. > Has anyone out there managed to set up Dragon Naturally Speaking to > run under WINE? I'm using Debian 7.6 multihome, with XFCE from the > Wheezy repos, which means v4.8. > My wife has developed a problem with her hands, and can't type more > than a few sentences without severe pain. I've got Dragon (V10, which > was supposed to be the most compatible) installed, but configuring it > is a problem because you have to almost yell down the microphone to > get the sound to register when training it. I can get it to work but > my wife is (much!) quieter-spoken than I am, and it just will not work > for her. > I've checked the mixer settings, I have the microphone gain boosted to > maximum. We're using a USB microphone, but I could go back to an old > 4mil one connected into the sound jack if USB could be the problem. > Her PC is a bog-standard eMachines/Wal-Mart job, so nothing fancy, > sound is off the motherboard, no added cards. There should be enough > CPU power there, though, 2.3 GHz dual core with 3GB of RAM. > Any ideas very gratefully received, I just don't know what else to > try. The software obviously works, but it just tells me that the > volume is too low when Pat tries to train it. Not that this is answering your Dragon-related question. However it may be worth a look http://www.cs.princeton.edu/~arora/RSI.html -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/ed545418-99e5-4538-9997-f045634de...@googlegroups.com
Re: iso and disk space problem
Frank McCormick wrote: On 18/08/14 09:11 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 01:01:17 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On 17/08/14 10:22 PM, sp113438 wrote: grml-rescue does not work on other ISO's, only on grml I thought. Please correct when I am wrong. Grml loads any iso placed in the /boot/grml directory. It modifies the grub2 menu, adding a listing for whatever iso you put in there and Grub2 will load it. grml-rescueboot will modify the grub menu with a listing for the ISO but will not boot it unless the image contains a loopback.cfg file in its /boot/grub. This rules out many (if not most) popular distributions. Which ISO are you using? ElementaryOS...seems like a Gnome-based distro from what I've been able to gather but it replaces a lot of Gnome stuff with its own applications written in Vala (sp). It's handy for that...but as I found out, unless there is a way to increase the file size of the iso, you can have problems :) I'm inclined to think increasing size of an ISO is not possible. Having it access space outside the image is. Yes that's the conclusion I've reached but how to do it is the problem. For me this started as a way to try the distro without booting from a CD but now it has stoked my curiosity about ISOs in general. I vaguely recall having seen what you asked for on a debian.org page dealing with creating custom cd's. I came up empty on a quick search just now. However when searching to see just what ElementaryOS is, I came across http://www.stugon.com/install-elementary-os-on-vmware-player/ HTH -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f22c5a.2060...@cloud85.net
Re: Skype substitutes for current Debian?
op 10-08-14 20:55, Tom Roche schreef:
>
> Having recently received the Skype email requiring reinstall with new
> version, I'd like to learn more about available, working substitutes
> for Skype for D7/wheezy, possibly current testing/jessie, and maybe
> even more robust bits of sid. (For brevity, I'll refer to that
> collectively as "D7++".) Particularly I'm interested in the following
> usecase: someone receives request from OP to do an interview by
> Skype, the service with which the OP is most familiar. Are there,
> e.g.,
>
> 1. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect
> directly to an OP running Skype?
There are no Skype compatible clients.
> 2. Alternate services (e.g., Google Hangout) with ease-of-use
> sufficiently approximate to Skype that the D7++ user could reasonably
> propose to an OP of {usual, not very strong} IT-literacy?
For about a month I've tested an online service called Bistri:
https://bistri.com/
It worked fine with Chromium, but not with Iceweasel then (maybe it
works now with a newer version).
The other side does not need to register with Bistri, Only clicking on a
link is enough to connect to you.
I think web-based is a good idea.
> 3. Skype-compatible clients for D7++ which could be used to connect
> directly to an OP running that alternate service?
>
> I'm especially interested in evaluations of
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/skype
>> free and open source alternative[s,] community-owned and supported
>> by Debian, such as the VoIP ekiga , linphone , or jitsi ?
I've tested Ekiga and Linphone. The problem of the SIP protocol is that
it does not work very well behind NAT. And most people are behind a NAT
router. I think XMPP is the better protocol, but using a VPN with SIP is
maybe a good alternative (more compatible).
A problem is that the other side needs to have something what's
compatible with you. It seems that Jitsi is a good client, but it's Java
and I am always a bit sceptical about Java.
But I think it's the best to look at online services.
Because it's more easy for the other side (no installation).
With regards,
Paul van der Vlis.
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Re: Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?
On 18/08/14 12:19 PM, brian wrote: Hi all, I posted this question to the XFCE users list a couple of days ago but no takers, so I'll try it here. I also got a timeout on the first attempt, so due apologies if this message is a duplicate. Has anyone out there managed to set up Dragon Naturally Speaking to run under WINE? I'm using Debian 7.6 multihome, with XFCE from the Wheezy repos, which means v4.8. My wife has developed a problem with her hands, and can't type more than a few sentences without severe pain. I've got Dragon (V10, which was supposed to be the most compatible) installed, but configuring it is a problem because you have to almost yell down the microphone to get the sound to register when training it. I can get it to work but my wife is (much!) quieter-spoken than I am, and it just will not work for her. I've checked the mixer settings, I have the microphone gain boosted to maximum. We're using a USB microphone, but I could go back to an old 4mil one connected into the sound jack if USB could be the problem. Her PC is a bog-standard eMachines/Wal-Mart job, so nothing fancy, sound is off the motherboard, no added cards. There should be enough CPU power there, though, 2.3 GHz dual core with 3GB of RAM. Any ideas very gratefully received, I just don't know what else to try. The software obviously works, but it just tells me that the volume is too low when Pat tries to train it. Thanks, Brian. Not using Dragon but the microphone problem could be a number of things. My USB microphone works well, as do the regular (audio-in) microphones I've tried. What happens when you talk into it using a Linux sound capture application? You might need to check the Windows mike volume as well as the Linux volume. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f2299e.3020...@torfree.net
Anyone got Dragon Naturally Speaking working under Debian Wheezy?
Hi all, I posted this question to the XFCE users list a couple of days ago but no takers, so I'll try it here. I also got a timeout on the first attempt, so due apologies if this message is a duplicate. Has anyone out there managed to set up Dragon Naturally Speaking to run under WINE? I'm using Debian 7.6 multihome, with XFCE from the Wheezy repos, which means v4.8. My wife has developed a problem with her hands, and can't type more than a few sentences without severe pain. I've got Dragon (V10, which was supposed to be the most compatible) installed, but configuring it is a problem because you have to almost yell down the microphone to get the sound to register when training it. I can get it to work but my wife is (much!) quieter-spoken than I am, and it just will not work for her. I've checked the mixer settings, I have the microphone gain boosted to maximum. We're using a USB microphone, but I could go back to an old 4mil one connected into the sound jack if USB could be the problem. Her PC is a bog-standard eMachines/Wal-Mart job, so nothing fancy, sound is off the motherboard, no added cards. There should be enough CPU power there, though, 2.3 GHz dual core with 3GB of RAM. Any ideas very gratefully received, I just don't know what else to try. The software obviously works, but it just tells me that the volume is too low when Pat tries to train it. Thanks, Brian. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f2278f.6060...@meadows.pair.com
XML FOP
Hi, when generating a pdf-file from an xml-file with fop I get the warning [warning] /usr/bin/fop: Unable to locate servlet-api in /usr/share/java Even though the result seems to be OK, I still would like to know what the servlet is good for, whether I really need it, and where I would get it from. On one website it said one should install libservletxx.xx. I did that but that did not help. I am using Wheezy with the latest version of fop. Any help would be appreciated. -- K.D.J. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f22109.2060...@t-online.de
Re: iso and disk space problem
On 18/08/14 09:11 AM, Brian wrote: On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 01:01:17 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: On 17/08/14 10:22 PM, sp113438 wrote: grml-rescue does not work on other ISO's, only on grml I thought. Please correct when I am wrong. Grml loads any iso placed in the /boot/grml directory. It modifies the grub2 menu, adding a listing for whatever iso you put in there and Grub2 will load it. grml-rescueboot will modify the grub menu with a listing for the ISO but will not boot it unless the image contains a loopback.cfg file in its /boot/grub. This rules out many (if not most) popular distributions. Which ISO are you using? ElementaryOS...seems like a Gnome-based distro from what I've been able to gather but it replaces a lot of Gnome stuff with its own applications written in Vala (sp). It's handy for that...but as I found out, unless there is a way to increase the file size of the iso, you can have problems :) I'm inclined to think increasing size of an ISO is not possible. Having it access space outside the image is. Yes that's the conclusion I've reached but how to do it is the problem. For me this started as a way to try the distro without booting from a CD but now it has stoked my curiosity about ISOs in general. -- 1984 was not meant as a blueprint for democratic governments. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/53f212c8.3020...@videotron.ca
Re: Graphic-Card / Optimus_Prime
On Monday 18 August 2014 14:34:46 merkeda...@vmail.me wrote: > Very simple with ubuntu, even the french doc is easily readable : No doubt it is very simple with Windows too. This is the Debian list. Why must we keep being told how simple Ubuntu is? Bully for Ubuntu. Lisi -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/201408181549.46615.lisi.re...@gmail.com
Graphic-Card / Optimus_Prime
hi, I am on dual-boot debian 7 & ubuntu 14 (updated) with two choices on my laptop : Nvidia or Intel. Optimus technology manage it with the soft "prime" allowing switching the graphic-card easily. On ubuntu, it is clear & neat ; i add nvidia settings - it chooses and download the driver - and i add the others things ; then, i restart. On Debian, it is not clear, not at all. I wish obtain the same thing on my debian. What must i do ? Is someone know a how-to (recent please) ? Is someone working with optimus ? Does Debian accept Optimus & Nvidia settings + Prime ? Very simple with ubuntu, even the french doc is easily readable : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/prime apt://nvidia-331 nvidia-prime mesa-utils. or sudo apt-get install nvidia-331 nvidia-prime mesa-utils Nota Bene : it works only with proprietary driver That is one part of my problem. *** The second part occurs when i follow a debian tutorial : installing a proprietary driver : it is not the same that ubuntu' choice !!! driver 331 -Nvidia settings_ubuntu driver 340 -Nvidia site_debian Like every user, we prefer let the assistant do the right choice. If i choose another driver (maybe better) is there not a risk to crash my system ? With the Nvidia assistant, the better driver will be choose without any risk. Why have i not on my software the prime soft & nvidia 331 (mesa-utils is) included in the packages (Optimus on laptop is a modern function well known) or at least a quick help/explanation ? I looked for information on several sites but i did not find something coherent or relevant. OK, it is maybe not free, not tolerated but i need it : it saves the life of my battery on debian and allows me playing on line on ubuntu. Different tutorials are on the web but i do not know which one i must follow. I would like solve that on debian with the same manner/procedure that i did on ubuntu. *** How to install Optimus_Prime on Debian 7 ? Thank you by advances for your answers. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/fb1a390f68bb6be9a794fc0c0d859...@vmail.me
Re: iso and disk space problem
On Mon 18 Aug 2014 at 01:01:17 -0400, Frank McCormick wrote: > On 17/08/14 10:22 PM, sp113438 wrote: > > > >grml-rescue does not work on other ISO's, only on grml I thought. > > > >Please correct when I am wrong. > > Grml loads any iso placed in the /boot/grml directory. > > It modifies the grub2 menu, adding a listing for whatever iso > you put in there and Grub2 will load it. grml-rescueboot will modify the grub menu with a listing for the ISO but will not boot it unless the image contains a loopback.cfg file in its /boot/grub. This rules out many (if not most) popular distributions. Which ISO are you using? > It's handy for that...but as I found out, unless there is a way to > increase the file size of the iso, you can have problems :) I'm inclined to think increasing size of an ISO is not possible. Having it access space outside the image is. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/18082014140349.6181a3ef2...@desktop.copernicus.demon.co.uk
printing
On Sun, 2014-08-17 at 09:54 -0400, Steve Litt wrote: > On Sun, 17 Aug 2014 15:26:46 +0200 > dick kampman wrote: > > > My old HP-LaserJet-6MP is printing apropriate under Ubuntu and Fedora. > > Under Debian, helas, I just get white pages. I tried to > > edit /etc/cups/ppd/HP-LaserJet-6MP but without result. > > > > What should I do? > > Make sure CUPS is installed, and with your browser go to > http://127.0.0.1:631, log in as root with your root password when > asked, and investigate what driver your printer is using and what > options that driver has set. Using http://127.0.0.1:631 I succeeded to install a valid printerdriver. Thanks for the advice. Dick Kampman -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/1408367432.1830.3.camel@localhost.localdomain
Re: networking fails with temporary systemd (was auto starting of ppp has stopped working)
On Thursday, August 14, 2014 10:10:02 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > Am 14.08.2014 16:02, schrieb Rusi Mody: > > On Thursday, August 14, 2014 3:40:03 PM UTC+5:30, Michael Biebl wrote: > >> Am 14.08.2014 um 05:32 schrieb Rusi Mody: > >>> Aug 14 08:13:15 debian64 pppd[594]: Couldn't open the /dev/ppp device: No > >>> such file or directory > >> Since you don't have the /dev/ppp device, I assume you are not using > >> udev 208-7? > >> Could you please post the version of udev (and systemd) you are using? > > Thanks Michael > > Just ran an aptitude update. > > After that: > > udev is at 208-6 which is the latest I see > If you are using sysvinit as PID 1, upgrade udev to 208-7 (currently > available from unstable) > > systemd is at 204-8 upgradable to 208-6 > If you are using systemd as PID 1, you should avoid mixing udev 208 with > systemd 204 and always upgrade both [1]. > I'd suggest you install systemd-sysv (which will uninstall > sysvinit-core) which will switch your default init to systemd. > You will still have a fallback /lib/sysvini/init as long as the sysvinit > package is installed and which you can use to boot the system in case > the boot fails with systemd. > [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=75#35 Just trying to complete this (both in deed and in understanding) And I find that /bin/systemd is a link to /lib/systemd/systemd. This removes some of my apprehensions. [I could have sworn that I saw a normal file of same size in both places and was confused. I guess I saw wrong.] And now (IIUC) replacing sysvinit-core by systemd-sysv will make systemd the default (right now Ive to explicitly give the init=/bin/systemd at grub). However both will continue to exist and in case of any issue it could be manually chosen. Is that right?? More specifically my concerns are: 1. Which apt package 'owns' which file? 2. Are any critical packages being obsoleted? I really wonder about the name 'sysvinit-core'... Hardly seems 'core' to me. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/6cc11efb-03b8-462d-b1f6-3bd7f1b57...@googlegroups.com
Re: custom kernel - disabling devices - broadcom qlogic NetXtremeII
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Re: custom kernel - disabling devices - broadcom qlogic NetXtremeII
On 8/18/14, Darac Marjal wrote:
> On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:48:50PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
>> I am using "make xconfig" (the kernel qt configurator).
>>
>> How is it that I cannot disable:
>> Network device support
>> -> Ethernet driver support
>> -> Broadcom devices
>> -> Broadcom QLogic NetXtremeII driver?
>>
>> I can only select it as a module, or permanently built into the kernel. It
>> says:
>> Selected by: CNIC [=m] && NETDEVICES [=y] && ETHERNET [=y] &&
>> NET_VENDOR_BROADCOM [=y] && PCI [=y]
>
> As I understand it, the module you want to disable is being selected
> (for build) because of the boolean logic shown here. If you have CNIC
> *and* NETDEVICES *and* ETHERNET *and* ... (and so on), then you must
> also have the Broadcom QLogic NetXtreme II driver.
>
> Now, a quick check on the first of those (I searched the internet for
> 'linux kernel CNIC', no quotes and took the first link) shows me [1]
> that the CNIC driver "supports offload features of Broadcom NetXtreme II
> gigabit Ethernet cards".
>
> So, at the moment, you're trying to build the offloading driver for that
> card as a module ("CNIC=m") but not the main driver for the card. I
> doubt that's going to work.
>
> I would suggest saying no to CNIC and you should then be able to disable
> the other driver.
>
> [1] http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/CNIC.html
Thank you.
"QLogic CNIC support" is the option immediately below that NetXtremeII
option, and it too can only be set to m or yes. It says:
SCSI_BNX2_ISCSI [=m] && SCSI_LOWLEVEL [=y] && SCSI [=m] && NET [=y] &&
PCI [=y] || SCSI_BNX2X_FCOE [=m] && SCSI_LOWLEVEL [=y] && SCSI [=m] &&
PCI [=y]
When I set it to module, NetXtremeII can be set to m; when I set it to
yes, NetXtremeII cannot be disabled. I would like both to be disabled
- I am able to disable the other "Broadcom devices" drivers, just not
these two.
And there is no general disable switch for "Broadcom devices" section
(at the moment at least), whereas, for example, there is for the
"Atheros devices" section.
I enabled menu Option -> Show Name, and went through all the items I
could find in:
Device drivers -> SCSI device support
and could not find SCSI_BNX2_ISCSI.
Finally I found the Edit -> Find menu, and these two devices options are under
SCSI device support -> SCSI low-level drivers
-> Qlogic...
where they can be disabled.
Could that be considered a bug of sorts? That seems rather awkward to
search around, to disable something you're looking at, to then have to
come back to where you were - surely it should just disable from where
I am in the first instance?
There seem to be at least a number of such instances around - the
kernel config tool is not intuitive, or doesn't seem to work very well
from this dum user's perspective. It's going to take a really long
time to disable things I don't need, at least with this user
interface.
Thanks again,
Zenaan
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Re: iso and disk space problem
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 07:33:23AM -0400, Cindy-Sue Causey wrote: > On 8/17/14, Frank McCormick wrote: > > > > I downloaded an ISO of another Linux distro to check it out - burned is > > to a CD and booted from it. Runs fine, but a little slowly, > > so I thought about grml-rescue which allows grub to boot an ISO from the > > HD. Runs fine, but immediately ran into trouble updating the distro > > when it ran out of disk space. Seems the limit is the size of the > > original ISO. Is there any way of increasing this? It's about 700kb > > right now which doesn't allow much room for anything. > > > I've spent the last approximate 4 months (don't ask) deliberately > breaking and fixing several different Debian derivatives after they > initially did the same themselves. JUST YESTERDAY arrived at a point > where I downloaded the smallest true Debian .iso. MY FIRST. It works > and I am this very second setting up its GUI. The smallest I download was damn small! :-) *AND* it came with a GUI already setup! -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and loving the people who are doing the oppressing." --- Malcolm X -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/20140818122909.GA14677@tal
Re: custom kernel - disabling devices - broadcom qlogic NetXtremeII
On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 09:48:50PM +1000, Zenaan Harkness wrote:
> I am using "make xconfig" (the kernel qt configurator).
>
> How is it that I cannot disable:
> Network device support
> -> Ethernet driver support
> -> Broadcom devices
> -> Broadcom QLogic NetXtremeII driver?
>
> I can only select it as a module, or permanently built into the kernel. It
> says:
> Selected by: CNIC [=m] && NETDEVICES [=y] && ETHERNET [=y] &&
> NET_VENDOR_BROADCOM [=y] && PCI [=y]
As I understand it, the module you want to disable is being selected
(for build) because of the boolean logic shown here. If you have CNIC
*and* NETDEVICES *and* ETHERNET *and* ... (and so on), then you must
also have the Broadcom QLogic NetXtreme II driver.
Now, a quick check on the first of those (I searched the internet for
'linux kernel CNIC', no quotes and took the first link) shows me [1]
that the CNIC driver "supports offload features of Broadcom NetXtreme II
gigabit Ethernet cards".
So, at the moment, you're trying to build the offloading driver for that
card as a module ("CNIC=m") but not the main driver for the card. I
doubt that's going to work.
I would suggest saying no to CNIC and you should then be able to disable
the other driver.
[1] http://cateee.net/lkddb/web-lkddb/CNIC.html
>
> I would like to disable it.
>
> Seems strange.
>
> TIA,
> Zenaan
>
>
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I am using "make xconfig" (the kernel qt configurator). How is it that I cannot disable: Network device support -> Ethernet driver support -> Broadcom devices -> Broadcom QLogic NetXtremeII driver? I can only select it as a module, or permanently built into the kernel. It says: Selected by: CNIC [=m] && NETDEVICES [=y] && ETHERNET [=y] && NET_VENDOR_BROADCOM [=y] && PCI [=y] I would like to disable it. Seems strange. TIA, Zenaan -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/CAOsGNSRr2yWC4giPvUbukV9uCsgYT8-PsSMxw2A=zvs4etg...@mail.gmail.com
Re: iso and disk space problem
On 8/17/14, Frank McCormick wrote: > > I downloaded an ISO of another Linux distro to check it out - burned is > to a CD and booted from it. Runs fine, but a little slowly, > so I thought about grml-rescue which allows grub to boot an ISO from the > HD. Runs fine, but immediately ran into trouble updating the distro > when it ran out of disk space. Seems the limit is the size of the > original ISO. Is there any way of increasing this? It's about 700kb > right now which doesn't allow much room for anything. I've spent the last approximate 4 months (don't ask) deliberately breaking and fixing several different Debian derivatives after they initially did the same themselves. JUST YESTERDAY arrived at a point where I downloaded the smallest true Debian .iso. MY FIRST. It works and I am this very second setting up its GUI. IN THE PROCESS of getting to this point, I downloaded SEVERAL different variations from the small, dialup friendly cdrom and hd-media offerings. While attempting to (and miserably FAILING at) installing them, somewhere I read something about some image files ONLY giving you exactly what you're saying. They only give you on your hard drive what they are when you view them in an archive manager. They have to be tweaked somehow or they waste any additional space you offer them once fully extracted. Whoever said it knew what they were talking about. It happened to me couple days ago with boot.img.gz. It's very small compared to many, 35MB to download but claims to be 1000MB (1GB) when opened. Part of that seemingly amazing 1GB is the ram and THAT is the issue/culprit/reason for why this happens, *I THINK*. Wish now I'd printscreened. One of the few things I haven't documented recently. My brain what it is (and isn't), can't remember exactly why that happens but whoever had written that online did not fib. There's something you have to do so that the extraction will actually use the entire of wherever you extract it.. Apologies I can't remember the fix but writing anyway hoping this will give you or anyone else something to go on if that turns out to be your case.. Cindy :) -- Cindy-Sue Causey Talking Rock, Pickens County, Georgia, USA * runs with duct tape * -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-user-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...@lists.debian.org Archive: https://lists.debian.org/cao1p-kb3ui1c3qsbez0kpj3adxi__jpnpqypdlby3snwniv...@mail.gmail.com
Re: Busybox: compile statically?
On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 06:25:29PM +0200, antispammbox-debian wrote: > > Hi all > > How to compile busybox in static mode, adding some utility different from > the usual, -dd, cat, other,... -, example, partimage, with all the > dependencies, compress it, and install on a usb stick? From just a cursory glance at the busybox.net site, statically compiling busybox appears to be either the default, or selectable through the menu (you *did* read the INSTALL file in the source, didn't you)? As for adding items to Busybox, there's an FAQ about that: http://www.busybox.net/FAQ.html#adding signature.asc Description: Digital signature
