date:20141205


On 12/05/2014 05:06 PM, Renaud (Ron) OLGIATI wrote:

On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 +
Brian  wrote:


But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can
choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip".


What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at an inconvenient 
moment ?


What is wrong with an fsck?? You've never had an fsck happen without 
your permission before at boot time?? Isn't it a good thing to have 
happen once in a blue moon?? Jimminy Crickets, be glad you aren't 
defragging like Win users have had to put up with for eons. Just think 
of it as a "prophylactic measure" and play safe. Be glad, instead, that 
someone is looking out for you. :) Ric



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Re: Epson XP-820 Small-in-one

2014-12-05 Thread Joseph Loo


On 12/05/2014 08:43 PM, Gary Dale wrote:

I bought the XP-820 because it was on sale and could print to CD/DVD - a
feature that I liked about my earlier Espon R-320 printer. Unfortunately
the XP-820 needs the Epson escpr driver while the R-320 used the
Cups-Gutenprint driver. The former doesn't seem to include the
print-to-CD/DVD feature that the latter has.

There is a work-around, of writing to an SDHC card then inserting the
card into a lot in the printer and using the printer's control panel to
print a design to CD/DVD. This is quite cumbersome so I'm hoping someone
has a method of getting the XP-820 to print to CD/DVD from Linux.


I used Turboprint from turboprint.info. It is a paid program and it 
allows me to print to CD/DVD. Unfortunately they have not come out a 
driver for the epson xp820. I have a Epson XP810


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Epson XP-820 Small-in-one

I bought the XP-820 because it was on sale and could print to CD/DVD - a 
feature that I liked about my earlier Espon R-320 printer. Unfortunately 
the XP-820 needs the Epson escpr driver while the R-320 used the  
Cups-Gutenprint driver. The former doesn't seem to include the 
print-to-CD/DVD feature that the latter has.


There is a work-around, of writing to an SDHC card then inserting the 
card into a lot in the printer and using the printer's control panel to 
print a design to CD/DVD. This is quite cumbersome so I'm hoping someone 
has a method of getting the XP-820 to print to CD/DVD from Linux.



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Re: no microphone in skype


On 05/12/14 11:13 PM, kamaraju kusumanchi wrote:

Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?

When I do
Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call

I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.

In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono

When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.

I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
right)

In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?

rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
ii  pulseaudio 5.0-13   amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-module-x11  5.0-13   amd64X11 module
for PulseAudio sound server
ii  pulseaudio-utils   5.0-13   amd64Command line
tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii  skype  4.3.0.37-1   i386 Wherever you
are, wherever they are

If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration details?

thanks
raju
This is a never-ending problem with Skype. The best way is to have at 
least two microphones (one using a microphone-in port and one using 
usb). One or both of them may work at any given time. Also, try all the 
different sound inputs that Skype shows. One or another may or may not 
work. Don't expect any consistency.


The problem is that Skype uses proprietary codecs and closed-source 
code. They're simply not very good at keeping it working with Linux.



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Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?


On 05/12/14 03:35 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:

Hello,

Some mistakes in what you wrote.

Gary Dale a écrit :

RAID 1 and RAID 5 are both immune to single disk
failures in their most common configurations (1 or more data disks with
1 parity disk). RAID 10 is also immune to single disk failure but uses
half the disks for parity.

RAID 1 and 10 are just mirrors, they have no parity. I guess you mean
"redundancy".
RAID 5 does not use data disks and parity disks. Data and parity are
distributed among all disks in the array.
RAID 1 with N disks can survive N-1 disk failures.
You can think of the RAID algorithms as parity checks. A mirror is even 
parity. While the disks are not physically assigned to be data or 
parity, you can recreate a failed RAID 5 disk by recalculating the 
parity based on the surviving disks.





If you are concerned about availability, with 4 disks (the simplest RAID
10 configuration)

Linux can use a special RAID 10 mode (mirror+stripe) with two or three
disks.
If you have different sized disks, yes. The more usual case is to use 
similar disks. If one disk is not striped, you lose some of the 
performance improvement. RAID 10 with two disks makes little sense.





with 6 disks, RAID 6 will give you double the capacity of 4 disks
or get you immunity to 3 disks failing.

RAID 6 can survive 2 disk failures regarless of the number of disks in
the array.

You misread the sentence. You can run RAID with any number of parity 
disks by tweaking the algorithms. Most people don't bother using more 
than 2 parity disks but there is no theoretical reason why you couldn't, 
to get as much safety as desired. Prior to being able to boot to an 
mdadm RAID 5 array, I regularly had 3 to 5 disk RAID 1 /boot partitions 
- why not use the disks since they are already there and it keeps the 
partitioning the same across the drives.


RAID 6 can be considered a tweaked RAID 5 and RAID 5 can be considered a 
tweaked RAID 1.



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Re: Canon printers on wheezy (solved)

2014-12-05 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 2:47 PM, ken  wrote:
> Hey, Rob,
>
> I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to get a Canon PIXMA MX422 (same as the
> MX429 sold at Walmart) working.  It's a newer all-in-one printer.
>
> I downloaded both source code and rpm tarballs from Canon Singapore. The RPM
> wouldn't install because it needed libusb v.1.0.1 which is much higher than
> what I have.  Similar library dependencies prevented me from successfully
> compiling (autogen.sh & make) all of the source code files.
>
> So what was your secret?
>

This is exactly why I asked the OP to post his solution instead of
keeping it to himself.

Coming back to your question, Ken, I have a Canon Pixma MX870. I have
summarized the instructions to set this up at
http://malayamaarutham.blogspot.com/2014/06/setting-up-canon-pixma-mx870-printer-on.html

Since the models are very similar, it might work for your case.

raju

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no microphone in skype

2014-12-05 Thread kamaraju kusumanchi

Can someone please tell me how to get microphone working in Skype?

When I do
Skype -> Options -> Sound Devices -> Make a test call

I can't hear back my own voice. So the microphone is not working.

In "Open PulseAudio Volume Control" -> Input Devices , I see two sections
1. Built-in Audio Analog Stereo
2. QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono

When I make a sound, the blue bar in "QuickCam Pro 9000 Analog Mono"
section oscillates depending on the sound. But the blue bar in the
Built-in Audio section does not. This tells me that the microphone is
working but Skype is not able to use it somehow.

I tried clicking "Muto Audio" button in "Built-in Audio" section and
using the QuickCam Pro 900 as the fallback (green button at the top
right)

In the "Configuation" menu, I have set Built-in Audio profile to off,
QuickCam Pro 9000 Profile to "Analog Mono Input". What am I missing?

rajulocal@hogwarts:~$ dpkg -l skype \*pulseaudio\* | grep ^ii
ii pulseaudio 5.0-13 amd64PulseAudio sound server
ii pulseaudio-module-x11 5.0-13 amd64X11 module
for PulseAudio sound server
ii pulseaudio-utils 5.0-13 amd64Command line
tools for the PulseAudio sound server
ii skype 4.3.0.37-1 i386 Wherever you
are, wherever they are

If someone got Skype working can you please share your configuration details?

thanks
raju
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Re: No Flash-based audio in Google Chrome/Chromium with a USB Sound Card

2014-12-05 Thread Pete Orrall

>> Maybe your problem?  You might have to revert to a previous version
>> (which would involve a manual extraction from an older Chrome package).
>>
>
> Or maybe not because you're talking about audio only--sorry about that.

No worries, Curt.  It looks like I will be filing a bug report.
Thanks for reaching out anyway.

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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 19:06:50 -0300, Renaud OLGIATI wrote:

> On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 +
> Brian  wrote:
> 
> > But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can
> > choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip".
> 
> What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at an inconvenient 
> moment ?

Remedial action is not needed because the right choice was made from the
grub menu. If it wasn't, you get to live with the consequences and don't
do it again.


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Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-05 Thread Eduard Bloch

Hallo,
* Erwan David [Wed, Dec 03 2014, 04:13:14PM]:
> > As explained several times on this ML, depending against libsystemd0
> > package doesn't mean anything about requiring systemd to be used as
> > PID1 or not. Even Ian's GR was not taking the "I don't want any systemd
> > package on my machine" use case into account you know.
> 
> Why focus on PID1 ? As I said, systemd-resolved proved to be

Because that set of "systemd depending packages" is BS, most of the
ones listed there are only linked with libsystemd0 and might attempt to
send a dbus message here and there, which only has some effect if and
only if systemd is PID1.

Bitching about not used features is like demonizing libselinux1.

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Screen rotation question

2014-12-05 Thread Jacek Dudek

I'm trying to get screen rotation to work on my desktop computer.
Here's my system information. I don't have an auto-generated xorg.conf file.

uname -a
Linux jzd 3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.14.15-2~bpo70+1
(2014-08-21) i686 GNU/Linux

lspci
...
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Haswell
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06)
...

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor : 0
vendor_id : GenuineIntel
cpu family : 6
model : 60
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-4670 CPU @ 3.40GHz
...


Here's the error message I get when I try to use randr:

xrandr -o right
X Error of failed request: BadMatch (invalid parameter attributes)
Major opcode of failed request: 149 (RANDR)
Minor opcode of failed request: 2 (RRSetScreenConfig)
Serial number of failed request: 14
Current serial number in output stream: 14

Anyone knows what this is telling me? Any suggestions?


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Re: anacron does not run cron.daily reliably

2014-12-05 Thread Sven Joachim

On 2014-12-05 23:24 +0100, Rainer Dorsch wrote:

> I have one machine here on which cron.daily is not run reliably with anacron. 
>
> I see in
>
> rd@blackbox:~/Managed/LinuxInst$ grep cron.daily /var/log/syslog
> Dec  1 22:55:11 blackbox anacron[14161]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (mailing 
> output)
> rd@blackbox:~/Managed/LinuxInst$ 
>
> i.e. it run last time 4 days ago.
>
> I got
>
> blackbox:~# systemctl status anacron.service
> ● anacron.service - Run anacron jobs
>Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/anacron.service; enabled)
>Active: inactive (dead) since Mo 2014-12-01 22:55:22 CET; 4 days ago
>  Main PID: 14161 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
> blackbox:~# 
>
> I have systems on which this setup seems to work nicely. Although the system 
> runs Debian for a long time and has seen a few Debian upgrades, I am not 
> aware 
> that I did anacron related changes on this system.

For anacron to be restarted on a daily basis you need to have cron
installed, but even this might not be sufficient if your system is in
suspended state at 7:30 AM.  See https://bugs.debian.org/744753.

Cheers,
   Sven


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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Ron

On Fri, 5 Dec 2014 20:59:25 +
Brian  wrote:

> But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can
> choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip".

What about the choice to stop fsck it if it has started at an inconvenient 
moment ?
 
Cheers,
 
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anacron does not run cron.daily reliably

2014-12-05 Thread Rainer Dorsch

Hello,

I have one machine here on which cron.daily is not run reliably with anacron. 

I see in

rd@blackbox:~/Managed/LinuxInst$ grep cron.daily /var/log/syslog
Dec  1 22:55:11 blackbox anacron[14161]: Job `cron.daily' terminated (mailing 
output)
rd@blackbox:~/Managed/LinuxInst$ 

i.e. it run last time 4 days ago.

I got

blackbox:~# systemctl status anacron.service
● anacron.service - Run anacron jobs
   Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/anacron.service; enabled)
   Active: inactive (dead) since Mo 2014-12-01 22:55:22 CET; 4 days ago
 Main PID: 14161 (code=exited, status=0/SUCCESS)
blackbox:~# 

I have systems on which this setup seems to work nicely. Although the system 
runs Debian for a long time and has seen a few Debian upgrades, I am not aware 
that I did anacron related changes on this system.

Here is anacrontab

blackbox:~# cat /etc/anacrontab 
# /etc/anacrontab: configuration file for anacron

# See anacron(8) and anacrontab(5) for details.

SHELL=/bin/sh
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin
HOME=/root
LOGNAME=root

# These replace cron's entries
1   5   cron.daily  run-parts --report /etc/cron.daily
7   10  cron.weekly run-parts --report /etc/cron.weekly
@monthly15  cron.monthlyrun-parts --report /etc/cron.monthly
blackbox:~# 


Any hint what could be different at this system is welcome.

Many thanks,
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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 13:43:32 -0500, The Wanderer wrote:

> On 12/05/2014 at 01:05 PM, Brian wrote:
> 
> > On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote:
> > 
> >> With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just
> >> pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online
> >> conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided
> >> it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it,
> >> right? Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC does not work, nothing seems
> >> to work. I Googled for an answer on my phone but nothing. So, is
> >> there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip an
> >> fsck or is it yet another flaw?
> > 
> > "fsck.mode=skip" on the kernel command line.
> 
> That lets you prevent systemd from running fsck in the first place.

True

> 
> Unless I'm greatly misunderstanding what I've read so far, it does not
> let you cancel a systemd-initiated boot-time fsck which is already in
> progress.

True

But remember our current slogan "Linux is all about choice". One can
choose to boot with or without "fsck.mode=skip".

One could even set up two GRUB entries for the choices. An extra
keystroke or two and one get exactly what one wants. Isn't choice and
control a wonderful thing?

The OP wants, of course, to have some rescue route from having made a
bad choice. I wish it had been available when I used fdisk on the
wrong disk some time ago.


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Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?


On 12/05/2014 03:35 PM, Pascal Hambourg wrote:


Linux can use a special RAID 10 mode (mirror+stripe) with two or three
disks.


with 6 disks, RAID 6 will give you double the capacity of 4 disks
or get you immunity to 3 disks failing.


RAID 6 can survive 2 disk failures regarless of the number of disks in
the array.


Good to know, thanks! I'm starring this one! :) Ric



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Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?

2014-12-05 Thread Pascal Hambourg

Hello,

Some mistakes in what you wrote.

Gary Dale a écrit :
>
> RAID 1 and RAID 5 are both immune to single disk 
> failures in their most common configurations (1 or more data disks with 
> 1 parity disk). RAID 10 is also immune to single disk failure but uses 
> half the disks for parity.

RAID 1 and 10 are just mirrors, they have no parity. I guess you mean
"redundancy".
RAID 5 does not use data disks and parity disks. Data and parity are
distributed among all disks in the array.
RAID 1 with N disks can survive N-1 disk failures.

> If you are concerned about availability, with 4 disks (the simplest RAID 
> 10 configuration)

Linux can use a special RAID 10 mode (mirror+stripe) with two or three
disks.

> with 6 disks, RAID 6 will give you double the capacity of 4 disks 
> or get you immunity to 3 disks failing.

RAID 6 can survive 2 disk failures regarless of the number of disks in
the array.


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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 14:00:40 -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote:

> >> With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just
> >> pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online
> >> conference.  I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided
> >> it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive.  Ok, I just skip it,
> >> right?  Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC does not work, nothing seems
> >> to work.  I Googled for an answer on my phone but nothing.  So, is
> >> there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip an fsck
> >> or is it yet another flaw?
> > "fsck.mode=skip" on the kernel command line.
> 
> Pretty damn inconvenient and un-discoverable if you ask me.
> So I think this deserves a bug report.

Don't get carried away and start typing.

#758902


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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Alex Mestiashvili


On 12/05/2014 07:43 PM, The Wanderer wrote:

On 12/05/2014 at 01:05 PM, Brian wrote:


On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote:


With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just
pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online
conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided
it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it,
right? Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC does not work, nothing seems
to work. I Googled for an answer on my phone but nothing. So, is
there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip an
fsck or is it yet another flaw?

"fsck.mode=skip" on the kernel command line.

That lets you prevent systemd from running fsck in the first place.

Unless I'm greatly misunderstanding what I've read so far, it does not
let you cancel a systemd-initiated boot-time fsck which is already in
progress.

Discussion found via Google seems to indicate that even Ctrl-Alt-Delete
or the power button (short of the hard-power-off form, which can corrupt
the filesystem being checked) will be ignored by systemd while such a
fsck is in progress.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=719952 seems like it might
be related.



wow,  systemd even disables SysRq by default: #725422
Good to know. Luckily it was fixed in Debian.
But this is imho insane, why one would override such stuff??  I start to 
understand systemd haters :)



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Re: Canon printers on wheezy (solved)

2014-12-05 Thread ken


Hey, Rob,

I've been trying, unsuccessfully, to get a Canon PIXMA MX422 (same as 
the MX429 sold at Walmart) working.  It's a newer all-in-one printer.


I downloaded both source code and rpm tarballs from Canon Singapore. 
The RPM wouldn't install because it needed libusb v.1.0.1 which is much 
higher than what I have.  Similar library dependencies prevented me from 
successfully compiling (autogen.sh & make) all of the source code files.


So what was your secret?


On 10/09/2014 07:24 PM, Rob Hurle wrote:

I've just upgraded to wheezy and my Canon LBP 7200Cdn stopped working.
I used Radu Cotescu's script to try to reinstall it, but that failed and
messed up apt-get, as one of his debs tries to install an outdated
package.  I've cracked the problems and got my printer working again.
If anyone else is having similar troubles, you are welcome to get in
touch and I'll give you the details of what you need to do.

Cheers,

Rob Hurle

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Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

2014-12-05 Thread Andreas Weber

On 2014-12-05 19:18, Steve McIntyre wrote:
>>> To the best of my knowledge, the Mac Mini you've got *is* EFI
>>> capable, but doesn't work in quite the way we'd normally expect.

IIRC Apple's EFI is (was) not exactly what now is known as UEFI
"standard". None of my Mac Minis did work with the Debian installer out
of the box until now.

> In the meantime, I'd try some of the other options people have
> pointed you at maybe. Sorry I can't help you immediately. :-/
> 
>> I don't have any plans to run non-opensource software.

The best working setup so far for me was to

- keep OS X installed
- use rEFIt (now rEFInd)
- install Debian in addition

Why so? Firmware upgrades are only delivered via OS X Updates. It rarely
happens, but it does. So if you want them, keep the original OS installed.

BTW all of my Intel Minis support Yosemite withouth problems.

HTH, ändu

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Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX


On 12/05/2014 10:55 AM, Brian Sammon wrote:

On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:51:11 +
Steve McIntyre  wrote:


Hi Brian,

You might be in luck - I'm looking into installer stuff right now and
I've literally just got an Intel Mac Mini like yours last night to
play with. To the best of my knowledge, the Mac Mini you've got *is*
EFI capable, but doesn't work in quite the way we'd normally expect.

To confirm that, could you try the wheezy installer CD again for me
please?


It hasn't come up yet in this thread, but I just noticed that the CD
I've been using is labeled (by me) "7.0.0 i386".  I should probably get
a more recent version.
A related question: i386 or amd64?  Do you have a
recommendation/preference?


If you have 4 gigs of ram or better then amd64 would be the best from my 
experience, depending on CPU. :) Ric



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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Stefan Monnier

>> With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just
>> pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online
>> conference.  I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided
>> it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive.  Ok, I just skip it,
>> right?  Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC does not work, nothing seems
>> to work.  I Googled for an answer on my phone but nothing.  So, is
>> there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip an fsck
>> or is it yet another flaw?
> "fsck.mode=skip" on the kernel command line.

Pretty damn inconvenient and un-discoverable if you ask me.
So I think this deserves a bug report.


Stefan


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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread The Wanderer

On 12/05/2014 at 01:05 PM, Brian wrote:

> On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote:
> 
>> With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just
>> pressed Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online
>> conference. I got home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided
>> it was time to run fsck on my 1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it,
>> right? Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC does not work, nothing seems
>> to work. I Googled for an answer on my phone but nothing. So, is
>> there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip an
>> fsck or is it yet another flaw?
> 
> "fsck.mode=skip" on the kernel command line.

That lets you prevent systemd from running fsck in the first place.

Unless I'm greatly misunderstanding what I've read so far, it does not
let you cancel a systemd-initiated boot-time fsck which is already in
progress.

Discussion found via Google seems to indicate that even Ctrl-Alt-Delete
or the power button (short of the hard-power-off form, which can corrupt
the filesystem being checked) will be ignored by systemd while such a
fsck is in progress.

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=719952 seems like it might
be related.

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Re: Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

On Fri 05 Dec 2014 at 09:04:14 -0800, Eduardo Nogueira wrote:

> With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed
> Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got
> home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided it was time to run fsck on my
> 1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it, right? Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC
> does not work, nothing seems to work. I Googled for an answer on my phone but
> nothing. So, is there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip 
> an
> fsck or is it yet another flaw?

"fsck.mode=skip" on the kernel command line.


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Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

2014-12-05 Thread Steve McIntyre

Brian wrote:
>On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:51:11 +
>Steve McIntyre  wrote:
>
>> Hi Brian,
>> 
>> You might be in luck - I'm looking into installer stuff right now and
>> I've literally just got an Intel Mac Mini like yours last night to
>> play with. To the best of my knowledge, the Mac Mini you've got *is*
>> EFI capable, but doesn't work in quite the way we'd normally expect.
>> 
>> To confirm that, could you try the wheezy installer CD again for me 
>> please?
>
>It hasn't come up yet in this thread, but I just noticed that the CD
>I've been using is labeled (by me) "7.0.0 i386".  I should probably get
>a more recent version.
>A related question: i386 or amd64?  Do you have a
>recommendation/preference?

Ah, that says it all, in fact - if you've been using an i386 CD then
you must have been using BIOS-mode stuff. There's no EFI support on
Debian's Wheezy i386 CDs.

I'm going to be making that work for Jessie Real Soon Now, with some
hacking planned for this weekend. In the meantime, I'd try some of the
other options people have pointed you at maybe. Sorry I can't help you
immediately. :-/

>I don't have any plans to run non-opensource software.

ACK.

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Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-05 Thread Tony van der Hoff

On 05/12/14 18:19, Lisi Reisz wrote:
> On Friday 05 December 2014 16:19:08 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
>> On 5 December 2014 at 11:45, Steve McIntyre  wrote:
>>> [ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this
>>>   go uncorrected... ]
>>
>> Me too...
>>
>>> Spout crap if you like (but please do it elsewhere), but don't put
>>> words into Joey's mouth. As he later clarified in
>>> http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/on_leaving/ :
>>>
>>>  "I left Debian. I don't really have a lot to say about why, but I do
>>>   want to clear one thing up right away. It's not about systemd."
>>
>> I'm not. I'm just trying to interpret what he said in the middle of
>> this context / mess.
> 
> I.e put words into his mouth and completely alter what he said.
> 
> If you are not happy with Debian, then please stop using it.  If you are 
> happy, use it.  Don't misquote "the great and the good" to pretend they 
> support you.

++

What he said didn't require interpreting. Just take it at face value,
rather than build a conspiracy out of it. There is no mess.


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Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-05 Thread Lisi Reisz

On Friday 05 December 2014 16:19:08 Martinx - ジェームズ wrote:
> On 5 December 2014 at 11:45, Steve McIntyre  wrote:
> > [ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this
> >   go uncorrected... ]
>
> Me too...
>
> > Spout crap if you like (but please do it elsewhere), but don't put
> > words into Joey's mouth. As he later clarified in
> > http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/on_leaving/ :
> >
> >  "I left Debian. I don't really have a lot to say about why, but I do
> >   want to clear one thing up right away. It's not about systemd."
>
> I'm not. I'm just trying to interpret what he said in the middle of
> this context / mess.

I.e put words into his mouth and completely alter what he said.

If you are not happy with Debian, then please stop using it.  If you are 
happy, use it.  Don't misquote "the great and the good" to pretend they 
support you.

Lisi


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Skipping fsck during boot with systemd?

2014-12-05 Thread Eduardo Nogueira

With init, skipping a scheduled fsck during boot was easy, you just pressed
Ctrl+c, it was obvious! Today I was late for an online conference. I got
home, turned on my computer, and systemd decided it was time to run fsck on my
1TB hard drive. Ok, I just skip it, right? Well, Ctrl+c does not work, ESC
does not work, nothing seems to work. I Googled for an answer on my phone but
nothing. So, is there a mysterious set of commands they came up with to skip an
fsck or is it yet another flaw?


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Re: No Flash-based audio in Google Chrome/Chromium with a USB Sound Card

2014-12-05 Thread Curt

On 2014-12-05, Curt  wrote:
> On 2014-12-05, Pete Orrall  wrote:
>> Hi All,
>>
>> I am apologizing for the long post now.  I installed Wheezy a couple
>> weeks ago on my workstation and things are fantasticwith the
>> exception of a Flash-based audio problem: I don't have audio from any
>> Flash-based media (Youtube, Vimeo, or otherwise) in either Google
>> Chrome or Chromium.  I installed the pepperflashplugin-nonfree plugin
>> and have followed much of the documentation on the Debian Wiki
>
> I found this bug:
>
> https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761184
>
> https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/09/msg00046.html
>
> (links against GLIBC_2.14)
>
> Maybe your problem?  You might have to revert to a previous version
> (which would involve a manual extraction from an older Chrome package).
>

Or maybe not because you're talking about audio only--sorry about that.


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Re: No Flash-based audio in Google Chrome/Chromium with a USB Sound Card

2014-12-05 Thread Curt

On 2014-12-05, Pete Orrall  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am apologizing for the long post now.  I installed Wheezy a couple
> weeks ago on my workstation and things are fantasticwith the
> exception of a Flash-based audio problem: I don't have audio from any
> Flash-based media (Youtube, Vimeo, or otherwise) in either Google
> Chrome or Chromium.  I installed the pepperflashplugin-nonfree plugin
> and have followed much of the documentation on the Debian Wiki

I found this bug:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=761184

https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/09/msg00046.html

(links against GLIBC_2.14)

Maybe your problem?  You might have to revert to a previous version
(which would involve a manual extraction from an older Chrome package).


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Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-05 Thread Martinx - ジェームズ

On 5 December 2014 at 11:45, Steve McIntyre  wrote:
> [ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this
>   go uncorrected... ]

Me too...

> Spout crap if you like (but please do it elsewhere), but don't put
> words into Joey's mouth. As he later clarified in
> http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/on_leaving/ :
>
>  "I left Debian. I don't really have a lot to say about why, but I do
>   want to clear one thing up right away. It's not about systemd."

I'm not. I'm just trying to interpret what he said in the middle of
this context / mess.


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No Flash-based audio in Google Chrome/Chromium with a USB Sound Card

2014-12-05 Thread Pete Orrall

Hi All,

I am apologizing for the long post now. I installed Wheezy a couple
weeks ago on my workstation and things are fantasticwith the
exception of a Flash-based audio problem: I don't have audio from any
Flash-based media (Youtube, Vimeo, or otherwise) in either Google
Chrome or Chromium. I installed the pepperflashplugin-nonfree plugin
and have followed much of the documentation on the Debian Wiki
regarding this issue. Removing and reinstalling both Chrome and
Pepper Flash have not changed the situation. I have also spent
several hours Googling this problem without resolve. I don't have
this Flash-based audio problem with Iceweasel. Playing audio/video
from Audacious and VLC work fine.

My motherboard is an ASRock 990FX Extreme9 with its own onboard NVidia
audio chip. I disabled this sound card a long time ago in the BIOS.
My audio interface is a USB Focusrite Scarlett 2i4 which ALSA
supports.

I installed Wheezy via the DVD using the Expert Installer and a
minimal install which included SSH and the base system.
Post-installation I installed xorg, openbox, and some other
desktop-related packages as well as multimedia stuff from the
deb-multimedia repo. Some other things worth noting:

1) I have Wheezy installed on my ThinkPad L530 with the same (or at
least darn-near identical) installation method and package selection
and uses the laptop's onboard audio. The laptop doesn't experience
this problem *at all* and instead works just fine.

2) This workstation is also dualbooted with Windows 7 Professional
where I also use Google Chrome and do not experience this audio
problem.

3) I have had other distributions (CentOS 6.5 and openSUSE 13.1,
respectively) installed on this machine with the SAME hardware
configuration and never experienced these Chrome/Chromium audio
problems.

Does anyone have any ideas? Is there some sound-related configuration
I'm missing or have I stumbled across a bug?

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Re: LVM RAID5 with missing disk?


On 05/12/14 05:01 AM, Mart van de Wege wrote:

Gary Dale  writes:


On 04/12/14 12:51 PM, Dan Ritter wrote:

On Thu, Dec 04, 2014 at 02:13:59PM +0100, mad wrote:

Hi!

I wanted to create a RAID5 with lvm. The basic setup is something like

lvcreate --type raid5 -i 2 -L 1G -n my_lv my_vg

which would mean 3 physical drives would be used in this RAID5. But can
I specify that one drive is missing as it is possible with mdadm?

I don't think so, no. You can create your RAID with mdadm and
put LVM on top of that.

In general I strongly recommend against using RAID5. RAID1, 10,
or 6 are all better options if your data's availability is
important to you.

-dsr-


Sorry, but there are good reasons to use RAID 5 and better reasons to
NOT use RAID 10. RAID 1 and RAID 5 are both immune to single disk
failures in their most common configurations (1 or more data disks
with 1 parity disk).

The problem is not that RAID5 does not provide resilience against a
single disk failure. The problem is that with modern disk capacities,
the chances of *another* disk failing while the array is rebuilding have
significantly risen.

Especially when all the disks came out of the the same batch, they tend
to fail at similar times. I know Best Practice is to mix disks in RAID
arrays, but who actually practices that, instead of just taking the risk
of failure and covering it with a higher RAID level, like RAID6 in this
case?

The chances of two disks failing within hours of one another is very 
small even for disks from the same batch. RAID 6 is preferable when you 
have large arrays as each additional disk raises the odds. It's also 
good when the location is remote so it may take a while to replace a 
failed disk. But for more typical arrays RAID 5 is good enough 
considering that RAID 6 uses more power, costs more and has reduced 
performance compared with RAID 5.


Again, this is talking about software RAID. With high-performance 
hardware RAID controllers, RAID 6 is often as fast as RAID 5.



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Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

2014-12-05 Thread Brian Sammon

On Fri, 05 Dec 2014 14:51:11 +
Steve McIntyre  wrote:

> Hi Brian,
> 
> You might be in luck - I'm looking into installer stuff right now and
> I've literally just got an Intel Mac Mini like yours last night to
> play with. To the best of my knowledge, the Mac Mini you've got *is*
> EFI capable, but doesn't work in quite the way we'd normally expect.
> 
> To confirm that, could you try the wheezy installer CD again for me 
> please?

It hasn't come up yet in this thread, but I just noticed that the CD
I've been using is labeled (by me) "7.0.0 i386".  I should probably get
a more recent version.
A related question: i386 or amd64?  Do you have a
recommendation/preference?

I don't have any plans to run non-opensource software.

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iregl_apl_loadDatabase] Error APL: apl initialize fail

2014-12-05 Thread Buntunub

Hello. This happens consistently in Wheezy (KDE) when I open a terminal which
always loads on the top left side of the screen by default, and then close
the terminal window using the x button. This causes my xserver to crash
every time. Can anyone help with this please?



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Re: Installing Linux on a Mac Mini without OSX

2014-12-05 Thread Steve McIntyre

Brian wrote:
>I was recently given a Mac Mini (Intel Mid 2007) that had been wiped.
>
>I tried to install Debian (Wheezy) on it, and the installer reported success, 
>but 
>when it came time to eject and reboot, Debian didn't boot from the hard drive.
>
>Googling finds me various pages about installing Linux where one of
>the steps is something like "Boot into OSX"
>
>Is there a way to install Debian/Linux on this machine that doesn't
>involve buying or borrowing (or "borrowing") a copy of OSX?  Is it
>easier to install linux on a USB disk and run it off of that?
>
>Two particular subtasks that I may need to do that seem to require OSX:
>1) "Blessing" a partition
>2) Checking what version of firmware it has (some versions have BIOS
>   compatibility)
>
>Any pointers/suggestions?

Hi Brian,

You might be in luck - I'm looking into installer stuff right now and
I've literally just got an Intel Mac Mini like yours last night to
play with. To the best of my knowledge, the Mac Mini you've got *is*
EFI capable, but doesn't work in quite the way we'd normally expect.

To confirm that, could you try the wheezy installer CD again for me please?

If it has booted in BIOS mode, it should look like

  http://www.einval.com/~steve/images/installer-bios.png

If it has booted in UEFI mode, it should look like

  http://www.einval.com/~steve/images/installer-efi.png

(note the different font, the word "UEFI" and the GRUB command line
mentioned at the bottom). 

Which of these does it look like, please?

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Re: Debian fork: 'Devuan', Debian without Systemd

2014-12-05 Thread Steve McIntyre

[ Apologies to others for maybe prolonging this, but I can't let this
  go uncorrected... ]

Thiago wrote:
>>> Jessie isn't Debian.
>>
>> So you say. Others have a different opinion.
>
>Absolutely, it is just an opinion, I know.
>
>Also, it seems to be Joey's opinion too: "It's become abundantly clear
>that this is no longer the project I
>originally joined in 1996."
>
>https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/11/msg00174.html
>
>And, Joey's opinion is very, very strong. He can talk about this, more
>than anyone.
>
>So, Jessie isn't Debian anymore... Soon or later, everybody will realize that.
>
>Right now, I'm very concerned about Debian's stability, I'm using it
>(since Potato) because it is _stable_, release after release, but,
>when with systemd, it will not be that stable anymore, it is
>impossible to be, mostly because systemd itself it too new and poorly
>designed, not ready for production. Maybe in ~2020, who knows...

Spout crap if you like (but please do it elsewhere), but don't put
words into Joey's mouth. As he later clarified in
http://joeyh.name/blog/entry/on_leaving/ :

 "I left Debian. I don't really have a lot to say about why, but I do
  want to clear one thing up right away. It's not about systemd."

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[Preseed] Partman expert recipe Error

2014-12-05 Thread claude juif

Hi,

I'm stuck with partman expert_recipe for 3 days now and it's driving me
crazy.

I've a 250GB hard drive and i try to use the following partition layout :

primary partition
512M /boot
4096M swap

LVM
10G /usr
20G /var
10G /
left free space to /home

so i use this recipe :


d-i   partman-auto/expert_recipe string boot-root ::
  512 513 512 ext3
  $primary{ }
  $bootable{ }
  method{ format }
  format{ }
  use_filesystem{ }
  filesystem{ ext4 }
  mountpoint{ '/boot' }
  .
  1024 1025 4096 linux-swap
  $primary{ }
  method{ swap }
  format{ }
  .
  1 10 -1 ext3
  $primary{ }
  method{ lvm }
  vg_name { debian }
  .
  10240 10241 10240 ext4
  $defaultignore{ }
  lv_name{ lv_usr }
  in_vg{ debian }
  method{ lvm }
  format{ }
  $lvmok{ }
  use_filesystem{ }
  filesystem{ ext4 }
  options/noatime{ noatime }
  mountpoint{ '/usr' }
  .
  20480 20481 20480 ext4
  $defaultignore{ }
  lv_name{ lv_var }
  in_vg{ debian }
  method{ lvm }
  format{ }
  $lvmok{ }
  use_filesystem{ }
  filesystem{ ext4 }
  options/noatime{ noatime }
  mountpoint{ '/var' }
  .
  10240 10241 10240 ext4
  $defaultignore{ }
  lv_name{ lv_root }
  in_vg{ debian }
  method{ lvm }
  format{ }
  $lvmok{ }
  use_filesystem{ }
  filesystem{ ext4 }
  options/noatime{ noatime }
  mountpoint{ '/' }
  .
  1 10 -1 ext4
  $defaultignore{ }
  lv_name{ lv_home }
  in_vg{ debian }
  method{ lvm }
  format{ }
  $lvmok{ }
  use_filesystem{ }
  filesystem{ ext4 }
  options/noatime{ noatime }
  mountpoint{ '/home' }


The only things i get is "Available disk space (250059) is too small for
expert recipe (154).

This number 154 is so huge. I think about a signed / unsigned error
in partman. I try to follow the size allocation formula to see if something
goes wrong but everything looks fine.

If someone can give me a hand on this, it would be greatly appreciated.

Regards,
  .

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